#Super Secret Invasion Wars
jovial raptor
jovial raptor
Everyone
jovial raptor
Based on the coded clips, I'm thinking ||Ross|| is
marble void
Is louis-dreyfus in this one
shut marsh
oh its this week
jovial raptor
I think the idea is that a faction of skrulls are tired of an apparent empty promise of a new place to live and are thus revolting behind the scenes
marble void
Oh okay so there are the skrulls from capt marvel but half of them are good and half of them are bad?
jovial raptor
Basically
marble void
Cool
shut marsh
they spilt into different groups
jovial raptor
I think Talos is on the good side but ||his daughter is on the other at least to start||
charred nexus
so do we think ||emilia clarke is talos' daughter?||
jovial raptor
I'm spoilering because I don't remember if what I'm thinking about is coming from spoilers I read or not.
jovial raptor
so do we think ||emilia clarke is talos' daughter?||
I think that's been confirmed
charred nexus
jude law was kree yes
marble void
And so was ronan?
charred nexus
yes
jovial raptor
Yes
tacit cypress
Oh I should prolly rewatch Capt Marvel this weekend to prep
jovial raptor
Should be
shut marsh
yes tonight
honest frigate
Yay, episodes finally
shut marsh
like peter’s grandpa is a skrull or his care taker? 
honest frigate
Only one I can think of possibly
marble void
Good one
kind grove
Ugh gdi
honest frigate
Oh now I see it 
marble void
All of the skrull promo has been like 2 dudes who are high as shit going “heyyy mann wouldn’t it be cool if we just had a skrull in the background of the gotg premiere”
“Oh hell yeah! What about if we do a fake ad where we have a skrull run in the background”
“Best idea ever”
charred nexus
I like how the whole point of the Skrulls and Secret Invasion in general is that they can hide as whoever
And all the marketing is “look green guy”
marble void
Im a fan
craggy condor
I can't wait for this super secret invasion
kind grove
It's up
charred nexus
54m runtime
Opening is the scene from the teaser game last week
Oh shit okay
So uh
||is there a real Ross or was he always that?||
Title sequence is neat
Okay ||Hill just said Agent Ross’ imposter so I guess he’s still around?||
errant ice
charred nexus
Hah okay I see where this is going ||the president is gonna be a skrull and cleared out during this setting the stage for Thunderbolt Ross (Harrison Ford) to be the president come Cap 4||
craggy condor
he just got kidnapped then lol
charred nexus
Aww
craggy condor
RIP
charred nexus
No credits scene
“Special guest star” means that’s real I guess
||honestly she’s not super relevant anymore so I’m not shocked||
kind grove
last reef
I’m surprised they took both Ross and Hill out so early. I was thinking they would be around as a skrull reveal later in the series.
charred nexus
copying my comment from the thread
Season-level predictions:
- Ross is still real and will show up in ep 3 or 4 probably
- Olivia Colman will be teased to be related to some other character that we either already know or are eagerly waiting for still
- Cobie Smulders will guest in one more episode in the form of BBEG skrull turning into her to torture Fury
- The President with Rhodey will be a Skrull and killed, paving the way for Harrison Ford's Thunderbolt Ross to be the President when Cap 4 happens
jovial raptor
During the title sequence I was like “is this ai? This looks like ai. I hope it’s not but it probably is.”
distant vortex
Marvel using an AI opening fucking sucks
Completely put me off marvel, gonna take down my mcu posters now
errant ice
https://tenor.com/view/clown-crying-sad-gif-17901663
I was half awake watching it and thought it was ai and I went “no one I’m sure someone was paid to animate it”
shut marsh
ya the art used looked like it was ai lol
winged briar
given disney's issues with VFX houses i'm not a huge fan of it's usage here. it's well done enough but its problematic
otherwise i liked what we've seen so far and am on board for it
jovial raptor
Outside the intro I enjoyed the episode but still, that intro left a lousy taste behind. This is literally a show about a secret invasion and they had AI create an intro instead of actual artists. Either they’re blind to the irony or it was intentional. Both look bad.
charred nexus
"we paid for emilia clarke not prosthetics and/or stunt actor, you're gonna get emilia clarke"
charred nexus
makes it personal for Fury
marble void
I really dont get the political subtext
its a comic book show
literally nobody in marvel is thinking about that I guarentee it
they dont have that kinda foresight
last reef
I think they will put some nuance to it later in this series to pit G'iah against Gravik.
marble void
yeah for sure
winged briar
I like how emilia clarke isnt skrull
well, they lampshade it by saying 'we stay in our human shells to make it harder to detect us among other skrulls and humans'
it also saves them a ton of makeup and CGI, it's not unreasonable
marble void
well, they lampshade it by saying 'we stay in our human shells to make it harder...
that line makes no sense though
surely its better to stay skrull form unless you are explicitly on a mission
to prevent spies from communicating your human form
marble void
which have been used before?
charred nexus
Referenced in Avengers, actually used heavily in AoS
jovial raptor
I think that’s reaching. There has been no indication of that being a possibility.
distant vortex
This opening is atrocious
winged briar
using LMDs feels like the laziest of writing and too much in nobody is ever really gone territory
distant vortex
Y’all I’m not gonna lie besides Ben Mendelssohn I remember 0 of the Skrulls. Soren? I don’t know her. I mean I can get the context but if you asked me to name Talos’ wife I’d be drawing blanks
Too long between this and captain marvel tbh
winged briar
but there's a plant that kinda glows! also yeah i barely remember those two other than the reveal scene in the car
distant vortex
Too long between this and also the end game stuff feels clunky
winged briar
and even that was seriously in the 'okay...cool?' territory
charred nexus
Y’all I’m not gonna lie besides Ben Mendelssohn I remember 0 of the Skrulls. Sor...
Soren = Ben Mendelsohn’s wife who was Skrull-ing as Hill during Spidey 2
I also didn’t remember a single Skrull name besides Talos though
distant vortex
Yeah it’s just like, the emotional impact isn’t there
Barely remember her so who cares she died
winged briar
'Soren is dead'
distant vortex
Kinda crazy that skrulls have super strength and shit but one little bullet takes them out
No hardened skin or anything ??
winged briar
until we get || super skrulls ||
distant vortex
The only thing this show has in common w/ winter soldier is Russian and grey tones
IDK I might be out on this. Really hard for me to get past the AI opening tbh, terrible precedent I don’t want to encourage. And it wasn’t too engaging tbh.
It’s giving me falcon and winter soldier energy
jovial raptor
You should see the talk going on in the industry discord I’m in. No one is happy over that intro except maybe the executives who think they saved a buck
distant vortex
It’s also just not good
Like, it’s so ugly and boring. If they had someone actually animate it it could have been amazing. It feels so static for something that should be animated
And I just don’t trust marvel considering their track record with VFX
jovial raptor
Exactly
There is speculation that they basically had someone draw up the key frames and then used AI to give it some animation. Still, it could’ve looked super cool if done with actual artists in photoshop, Maya, and other industry software packages. Even Blender. I wouldn’t have really been mad if they just used AI as a planning step to figure out a direction for the actual artists to use but what they did is just fucked
grand lintel
kinda get the vibe tho that killing Hill in ep1 is like "look at us, pulling no punches" but then they do
distant vortex
Tbh I’ve never been a big Hill fan but I was enjoying her more seasoned self this episode so if they really did fridge one of the few women on the show, pretty shit
jovial raptor
I kind of wish Richard Dormer was in more than just the opener.
grand lintel
Tbh I’ve never been a big Hill fan but I was enjoying her more seasoned self thi...
same was kinda hoping to see her return to the MCU lol
marble void
Tbh I’ve never been a big Hill fan but I was enjoying her more seasoned self thi...
Unfortunately she’s also completely dispensable
grand lintel
the most depth of a bullet in her 
jovial raptor
Just what I was gonna say
marble void
I also find it funny how she gets shot in the stomach and dies immediately
Like cmon
honest frigate
I feel this plus loki are going to connect somehow besides the marvels movie
toxic ingot
Kind of feels like this starts in media res. Fury has a limp, Ross is there, Talos' wife is dead, etc etc.
I hope they have a good reason for why the Skulls weren't able to find a new planet in the thirty years since Captain Marvel.
As for the "refugees bad" angle, it makes a lot of sense to think that if you've already decided that the MCU is problematic centrist propaganda, but not really otherwise.
errant ice
errant ice
F
marble void
F for Maria
distant vortex
same, my favorite
charred nexus
Wait am I forgetting some part from a previous thing
Or is Rhodey just walking on his own again now
charred nexus
Heads up writers
“I’m Nick Fury, even when I’m out, I’m in” is not as good a line as you thought it was
distant vortex
Ok but he’s different now cuz he was in SPACE.
charred nexus
Okay yeah they’re definitely building ||super skrull||
||but out of other superpowers/aliens instead of F4||
No credits scene
charred nexus
thanks i hate it
holy shit the super skrull dna subject list is a fucking reference to the thor 2 post credits scene
it was Groot (stretchy like Reed), Cull Obsidian (Thing), Extremis (Johnny), and a Frost Beast (which i guess works since how do you do invisibility in a way that makes sense)
i don't think so
not invisibility
but it's an alien that was left on earth unaccounted for (in that credits scene that was wholly just a joke scene)
idk you'd have to watch thor 2 to answer that properly lmao
jovial raptor
Okay yeah they’re definitely building ||super skrull||
Yeah, there’s a trailer out there that kind of outs this. Saw it recently somewhere but there’s a shot with a Skrull ||shooting out his arm like vines||
distant vortex
it was Groot (stretchy like Reed), Cull Obsidian (Thing), Extremis (Johnny), and...
Lol what. I don’t even remember that post credits.
charred nexus
Lol what. I don’t even remember that post credits.
The craziest part is that it’s this scene too https://youtu.be/UorqgZCHLVY
Just the last 10 seconds of it
marble void
I just can’t get over that these super secret skrulls are meeting in their deep deep disguises when they can clearly change
charred nexus
Had Rhodey and Fury ever had a scene together, let alone direct conversation, before this ep?
shut marsh
I think it was to show the audience that these characters are skrull instead of them being random people
than surprise pika shock later in the series
marble void
Those guns don’t sound like that lol
marble void
I think it was to show the audience that these characters are skrull instead of ...
Yeah its strictly for our benefit which I think could be done better if they wanted us to have more knowledge than nick fury
Lol Nick fury had a walking hat and a driving hat
Dead by daylight hook lol
marble void
The craziest part is that it’s *this* scene too https://youtu.be/UorqgZCHLVY
Marvel writers:
“That one dude who remembers this scene is gonna love it”
charred nexus
Marvel writers:
“That one dude who remembers this scene is gonna love it”
Literally me
marble void
Not a fan of the super skrull
This gonna be cgi fun fest finale number 20
I hope they subvert that
shut marsh
the trailers already spoiled the super skrulls
jovial raptor
There’s literally a shot of the main guy with groot arms
distant vortex
samuel l jackson's nose is off in the deaging and it bugs me
something about that area anyway
No offense but this show is really bad
How has it been 30 years and Fury is only now asking how many skrulls are on earth?
Like serious question did they just not want to spend the money to make this a period piece. I feel like this would have been better if they had set all this in the past because with the exception of Rhodey there's like no avengers anyway.
marble void
Like serious question did they just not want to spend the money to make this a p...
Issue with it being a period piece is that it has no connection with current events
distant vortex
What connection does it have now?
marble void
Snap, nick fury old
distant vortex
Also, a period piece didn't stop Agent Carter from being one of the better marvel tv shows at this point.
The snap is hindrence to the writing more than anything.
marble void
Agent Carter came out in a different time
distant vortex
I don't see the relevancy.
marble void
I don’t disagree that it would’ve been a better show, the issue is that they can’t fix the plot of like the marvels
Weren’t there skrulls in wandavision
marble void
I don't see the relevancy.
The whole point of the mcu now is that everything is connected
I’m not saying that’s good, I’m saying that’s the reason for the decisions being made
distant vortex
I don't think that's the "whole point" of the MCU and also - so fucking what?
It isn't working.
marble void
Sure
distant vortex
No, I think the decisions are being made that they're greedy and lazy.
marble void
I think they just don’t have the right direction
They are pumping money into these shows
It’s a company wide problem
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think secret invasion is very good either, I just disagree that it’s because they are being cheap
grand lintel
The craziest part is that it’s *this* scene too https://youtu.be/UorqgZCHLVY
The frost beast also in Mission Breakout
void loom
Who is this show for? What a waste of resources.
distant vortex
Based Bagel 
grand lintel
Who is this show for? What a waste of resources.
Ticking a box, they introduce skrulls in Captain Marvel, they have to do secret invasion
rich prairie
idk I’ve enjoyed it
distant vortex
They’re like
“We heard you guys complain about not tying up loose ends”
“Remember that beast in Thor 2 no one fucking cares about??? We got it”
rich prairie
They absolutely could’ve gone the easy route of making it a big avengers movie. But I think it’s got a genuinely interesting narrative
distant vortex
It’s terrible writing and a stupid plot.
shut marsh
its just 
why they procrastinated on finding a planet. Why not just send skrulls on ships to help scout
void loom
Disney has unlimited money to give us something creative and fresh, but instead they’re hellbent on catering to a lazy audience that is going to point at a screen and whisper a character’s name to an uninterested friend, because they learned from Wikipedia who that character was after the show was announced and they wanted to seem like an expert
distant vortex
Exactly the whole premise is bunk if you think about it for more than two seconds
Thank you Neko
void loom
That to me is the MCU experience kind of even before Endgame. It’s just some weird platform to pretend you’ve read comics from 50-years ago and nothing else.
void loom
Ticking a box, they introduce skrulls in Captain Marvel, they have to do secret ...
This pains me because it’s spot on
marble void
Yeah I completely don’t understand what’s happening
They already basically control the earth but haven’t been able to make their people happy??
Where are the other skrulls that aren’t part of the invasion?
rich prairie
its just <:MickeyFacepalm:482361691456274432> why they procrastinated on finding...
Didn’t they address this in like the first episode
they went looking and didn’t find anything
marble void
There’s also clearly some different factions that seem to be represented by the different leaders
distant vortex
How is that possible when there’s 37 new planets a movie in gotg
rich prairie
Also fury was under the impression that there was like maybe a couple dozen skrulls on earth
marble void
But at least we got blood?
distant vortex
LITERALLY MOVE THEM TO THE QUANTUM REALM
distant vortex
Like the rationale is bunk
marble void
Im not too mad about incompetent fury
shut marsh
lol they gave up after looking a few systems
distant vortex
Honestly I think they wrote themselves into a corner with Fury
marble void
Damn this channel poppin
void loom
LITERALLY MOVE THEM TO THE QUANTUM REALM
Show them the movie Downsizing and then say “this could be you!”
distant vortex
And then they went to make this show and went “fuck”
marble void
I thought they were gonna impersonate people
distant vortex
Also how can earth have new Asgard
marble void
Not actually literally just be the head of nato
marble void
Also how can earth have new Asgard
That’s what I’m sayin
void loom
The plot is as thin as the bean Mickey slices in that really depressing opening to the beanstalk episode
shut marsh
they still haven’t addressed the dead celestial 
distant vortex
also the problem with them being skrulls is they didn’t make anyone important a skrull so there’s no TEETH to this
marble void
they still haven’t addressed the dead celestial <:kek:869269712482222110>
That’s true
rich prairie
Isn’t new Asgard like a tiny ass town tbh
marble void
also the problem with them being skrulls is they didn’t make anyone important a ...
Yeah
How many skrulls are there? I forget
distant vortex
Well evidently a million
shut marsh
at least
marble void
Someday we will get around to addressing the cataclysm that occurred
rich prairie
Talos was probably lying to fury
distant vortex
like if they actually made it so like, I dunno, black panther was a fucking skrull and then it was all twisty turny scary
rich prairie
considering how he reacted when he told him
marble void
How did nobody at shield notice a million people worth of space ships?
marble void
like if they actually made it so like, I dunno, black panther was a fucking skru...
Yeah something like that
Which they did with literally just Ross
distant vortex
Who the skrulls are have no stakes at this point because they are RED SHIRTS
jovial raptor
It seemed like he trusted talos enough to just delegate the Skrull when it didn’t pertain to them spying.
void loom
But fury didn’t ask that FOR THIRTY YEARS
Same stupid issue as Quantamania! She had forever to tell them about Kang and put an end to it but was like “no big deal .. oh wait!”
distant vortex
They should have made it a spooky spy period piece for fury and he had to deal with skrulls alienating the government
And then they could have shot it like mindhunter
distant vortex
Make it super atmospheric like fury is questioning his sanity, use it to flesh out the character and make you understand why he does some of the things he does in later movies
This version is a limp dick of a spy thriller
Makes me sick
marble void
This version is a limp dick of a spy thriller
Worse than wild horses?
marble void
Oh yeah that
distant vortex
slow horses is great
marble void
You need more assholes for slow horse style
Literally every spy is just a piece of shit human
distant vortex
Ya but like a key part of spy espionage is the tension IMO
“Who can you trust”
“Who is double crossing who”
You feel that in tinker tailor soldier spy
That’s what they’re attempting to riff on and failing
marble void
Yeah, I watched night agent this past week and although the acting is questionable the plot is good
distant vortex
Winter soldier has a better like “what is happening”
marble void
“Who is double crossing who”
There’s like a negative amount of double crossing happening
distant vortex
Do you remember the first time watching when they discover the secret base
And armin Zola in the computer
marble void
Yeah
distant vortex
Or the first time the winter soldier comes out of nowhere
Or EVEN
when taskmaster fuck up black widow
marble void
As far as I can tell, nobody has lied yet
marble void
Except like Ross in the first scene
What has she lied about?
Feel like she’s pretty straight up idk I wasn’t paying attention to most of the dialogue
distant vortex
She wasn’t forthright I guess
He set up the owl to spy on her presumably because she was withholding the truth
grand lintel
Watching ep2 now
I'm not a skip intro person but damn do I really want to for this
It sucks they used ai because ngl the music is pretty good
marble void
He set up the owl to spy on her presumably because she was withholding the truth
Yeah I guess, she’s by far the most interesting character
distant vortex
Well she’s probably the best actor on the show so that helps too
It’s a surprisingly stacked cast tho for how underwhelming the show is
marble void
Idk why all they have emilia Clarke doing is walking around with her hands in her pockets lol
I know she’s trying some sorta double cross but it’s just not it
distant vortex
Maybe casting is where all their money went
marble void
I’m assuming she’s the one who outed their safe house?
grand lintel
Train scene, Talos says Fury been on station for years but audio sounds cut like they removed how many years he was 
marble void
He’s been living a double life?! Recruiting for the avengers and living on the station
grand lintel
Wait I just realized secret group pretending to be American attacking Russia to start a war between them is the set up of Modern Warfare 2
distant vortex
Also I know they’re like “we don’t want to put people in make up” but it bothers me the skrulls don’t want to hang out in their normal skin when in private. Seems like it would be important.
Someone didn’t watch x-men first class or whatever
rich prairie
I guess it’s because they don’t want to risk any photos of them as a skrull leaking out
It’s definitely kinda a dumb plot contrivance but I get why they did it
The skrulls aren’t super recognizable from each other
distant vortex
No because half of them were in make up
In the background shots when they’re cheering
I mean the real answers are “we paid for these people faces” and “make up is a lot of work”
But plot wise imo I think prolly would have been more engaging if the rebel faction was like “we want to live in plain sight” or something in that vein
marble void
I guess it’s because they don’t want to risk any photos of them as a skrull leak...
how would there be photos of them as a skrull?
theres nothing to connect a skrull and whatever human form they take
distant vortex
Btw everyone saying skrull look too similar are being culturally insensitive to skrull ppl
grand lintel
Ok why does Nick Fury have a wife that lives in Britain?
marble void
do you think he knows shes a skrull
grand lintel
No
distant vortex
Maybe he knows she’s a skrull and that’s why he married her
grand lintel
I'm just really hung up on why in Britain
distant vortex
You don’t know what they get up to in the bedroom
marble void
Maybe he knows she’s a skrull and that’s why he married her
true but like why in the world does this matter
distant vortex
Obviously he has her hidden to protect her
marble void
I'm just really hung up on why in Britain
idk nice calm place
distant vortex
He can’t have a wife in America
Or maybe better yet, he got hoes in different area codes
distant vortex
How do you explain “I’ve been in a space station sorry babe” she didn’t seem like she hadn’t seen him in 5 years or whatever
She was fucking the skrull fury!!!!!
marble void
How do you explain “I’ve been in a space station sorry babe” she didn’t seem lik...
idk seems like they have a certain kinda relationship
grand lintel
Obviously he has her hidden to protect her
I mean I guess yeah if he wanted the fact that he had a wife a secret from literally everyone and SHIELD
marble void
LMAO
grand lintel
Unless they married after the fall of Shield when he's no longer top guy at a US intelligence agency
distant vortex
It just all sucks
marble void
this shit makes no sense
winged briar
I liked it, the convo between Rodney and Fury might have been the best written convo in MCU
grand lintel
Also either Rhodey is a skrull or the directing/writing for him is off
marble void
that would be interesting but i think hes bog standard Rhodey
not everyone can be a skrull
grand lintel
I liked it, the convo between Rodney and Fury might have been the best written c...
Yeah it was pretty good, but I feel Rhodey would've taken him more seriously
marble void
also what does skrull rhodey get for firing nick fury
winged briar
you gotta give the audience SOMETHING to trust tho. no everyone can be skrull or it's a "nobody is every really gone" situation
marble void
feel like skrull rhodey wouldve been just like "alright sit tight and wait, imma getcha something"
like ross was
grand lintel
Also i foresee weak villain syndrome
winged briar
talos surprise villain twist is the easy call right now
anything is better than the flag smashers
grand lintel
talos surprise villain twist is the easy call right now
Could work but I feel that would ruin Captain Marvel's twist on the Kree vs Skrull stuff by making the Skrulls refugees
marble void
talos surprise villain twist is the easy call right now
the good guys are losing hard, talos being a villain its over
galik is pretty good so far
gravik
whatever
winged briar
what's first worst in your..k yeah fair call
marble void
falcon is worse for me I think
distant vortex
I literally said that oats
marble void
zemo was good but the flagsmashers and capt america were just not it
marble void
I literally said that oats
im agreeing with you
grand lintel
zemo was good but the flagsmashers and capt america were just not it
Also half the title getting like no development
winged briar
flagsmashers we're garbage, also (I was wrong)
distant vortex
Zemo was good but not enough to carry the show
marble void
you mean the falcon trying to save his sisters house? wasnt compelling development
distant vortex
Also they ruined a character I didn’t even care about - Peggy carter
winged briar
honestly....small stories are good!
grand lintel
The Bucky stuff was really good but they're like nahhhh let's just cut this and add about 4 more threads of story
distant vortex
Like who knew!!!
grand lintel
Isaiah Bradley stuff was also good
marble void
i actually liked the power broker character lol
grand lintel
But overall there was just way to much going on
winged briar
the power broker was good but the action was..not. also the "no senator you are the terrorist" was terrible
flag smashers were terrorists and murders, Capt defending them made no sense
grand lintel
Fake Cap was also pretty interesting I like how his downfall is from the pressure of being cap and living up to that. But his quick redemption at the end was not it
toxic ingot
Oh good, it's turned into another one of those threads
Episode 2 is probably a new record, no?
toxic ingot
I like Fury and Talos' dynamic a lot.
You have to stretch your imagination pretty hard to figure out why Talos and Carol couldn't find a single planet for the Skrulls in 30 years of searching. The Guardians literally bought a small planetoid and they're idiots. But if you can look past that it's fun spy stuff.
jovial raptor
I think that falls squarely on Carol since Talos seems to have just stayed on earth.
honest frigate
I'm keeping a eye on the mcu outcomes from this besides tue insanity that has happened already
toxic ingot
Well so far the Skrulls control NATO and the UK at the highest level
A Skrull did Brexit.
I'll tell you, on this particular evening it's difficult to see a young person who wants to burn the world down because of an old man's broken promises as the bad guy, here.
rich prairie
I really don’t think you’re supposed to honestly
It seems like fury is unequivocally in the wrong
toxic ingot
He has killed more people than probably every other MCU villain combined, bar Thanos. But that's pretty much it.
I guess Ronan has probably killed more too.
rich prairie
he’s the antagonist to the story, but I don’t think his actual motivations are meant to be shown as completely awful
toxic ingot
Maybe they're trying to bury Captain Marvel for the chuds
"You can't actually be the face of the Avengers anymore because girls smell and also you couldn't find a planet in 30 years"
- Kevin Feige.
It sounds like that's true in-universe as well
"What if the Avengers return?"
Speaking of which...
Rhodey says he got read into the Skrulls 15 years earlier. We don't know exactly how long it's been since Endgame (Fury was gone for "years" after the blip) but even if we take it directly that they're still 5 years ahead of us, that means Rhodey has known about them since Iron Man 3
Possibly even earlier.
marble void
What exactly is graviks plan lol
distant vortex
Episode 2 is probably a new record, no?
Toxic
toxic ingot
What exactly is graviks plan lol
Fumigation. If Russia and the US go nuclear it rids the earth of humans, clearing it for the Skrulls.
marble void
Ah okay so he’s inciting a nuclear war
winged briar
being immune to radiation doesn't make you immune to ecological collapse and dying by the heat of nuclear bombs tho
dusk falcon
So this is bad, right? I don’t have to watch it?
Like I haven’t heard a thing about this show
errant ice
I’m enjoying it
If you haven’t seen it yet just wait another month and watch it like a movie though
dusk falcon
Is it in the top 3 Marvel shows
jovial raptor
Probably not in the top 3. Not bad but yeah, wait to binge
charred nexus
I feel stronger about this show at this point (2 episodes in) than I did about Falcon & Winter Solider at the same point
Not as good as Loki
marble void
I think the episodic nature of this show doesn’t really help it
We got the big boom in the first one but what’s next
winged briar
it's not bad, and some of the scenes are actually quite good with good performances, but it's not prestige TV either
charred nexus
43min runtime for ep3
errant ice
Aw shit guess I should watch it
errant ice
And tapped out when they sat down for a cup of tea
charred nexus
I’ll admit, I expected that ending but not so early in the series
Oh motherfucker
||Rhodey is the skrull||
rich prairie
||Rhodey is the skrull||
||I bet he was replaced during the blip||
charred nexus
||I bet he was replaced during the blip||
||imagine he was a skrull since iron man 2 and real Rhodey comes back as Terrance Howard ||
rich prairie
||imagine he was a skrull since iron man 2 and real Rhodey comes back as Terranc...
Would go crazy
charred nexus
i think that name drop even belonged to fox previously
how good is skrull dna cloning
like ||would tony have discovered that after civil war in any way||
||if he'd been swapped already by then||
yeah
fury's line about a high ranking US govt official currently in london
charred nexus
yeah the scene of Gravik's extremis was brutal looking
jovial raptor
Wait, what thing was said?
charred nexus
i'm assuming bottle means namedropping super skrull
jovial raptor
Gotcha.
The show is getting better now that it’s picking up. I can definitely see her giving herself the powers and half expected her to sit up in that lingering shot. Also I think Nick Fury works a bit better as a secondary character instead of as a lead.
charred nexus
the shot of Sam Jackson doing the little spy twist thing on the stairs though, man acting like he's 60 years younger than he is
distant vortex
charred nexus
Maybe, maybe not
The biggest tell that she’s not making it through the whole show is that Emilia Clarke hasn’t been announced for any future MCU thing (yet)
She’s the kind of name that would be I think if there were further plans
winged briar
writing this episode was pretty weak
grand lintel
writing this episode was pretty weak
Really? I thought this episode was pretty good
Rhodey being Skrull was pretty obvious tho
winged briar
but as a reveal that was pretty....someone get don cheadle on the phone
fury's wife's phone call, emila clark being the worlds worst spy
grand lintel
I liked the moments of Talos with Fury and Gavik
toxic ingot
I hadn't considered that, but it would make a lot of sense. I even kind of thought Rhodey was acting weird last episode, but I couldn't tell if Dom Cheadle was just getting old.
toxic ingot
Is this the darkest IP they've ever had to promote at Disneyland?
I guess Alien was briefly there
grand lintel
Is this the darkest IP they've ever had to promote at Disneyland?
Indiana Jones?
toxic ingot
Nah. Indiana Jones is pretty whimsical, especially the ride, which doesn't have Nazis or problematic natives
grand lintel
the new one ||has innocents pretty much executed||
ik people say Temple is the dark one, but its kinda balanced out with how much more slapstick and campy it is
toxic ingot
My point though is they don't have Mads Mikkelson's Aryan Hit Squad in front of the Hyperion taking pictures as promo for Dial of Destiny
But they do have Skrulls out for (I assume) Secret Invasion
distant vortex
My point though is they don't have Mads Mikkelson's Aryan Hit Squad in front of ...
wow missed opportunity
I mean marvel shit is dumb as fuck politically
grand lintel
they had werewolf by night which was more violent
distant vortex
The politics of falcon and winter soldier are pretty messed up but it gets glossed over because MUH SUPERHEROS
you think MCU fans think???
grand lintel
you think MCU fans think???
sometimes
distant vortex
x for doubt
toxic ingot
Actually, did they have Walker out for pics on the Campus when that show was out?
distant vortex
Yes
toxic ingot
Okay never mind, that is darker
distant vortex
I mean they also had the dude who was responsible for the ATOMIC BOMB out
lolololol eternals
toxic ingot
There's plausible deniability that this Skrull isn't one of the ones that wants to genocide the human race.
grand lintel
Actually, did they have Walker out for pics on the Campus when that show was out...
wait they did?
toxic ingot
But Johnny Walker beat a dude to death with Captain America's shield
charred nexus
I mean they also had the dude who was responsible for the ATOMIC BOMB out
i had blocked that part of the movie out of memory
wow
can't wait for the Cillian Murphy lookalike at USH though
distant vortex
https://allears.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/2021-disney-california-adventure-eternals-phastos-4.jpg true monster of dl meet n greets
grand lintel
https://allears.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/2021-disney-california-adventure-...
so monstorous they only allowed him for 2 weeks
grand lintel
wait fr?
grand lintel
huh, somehow missed them
distant vortex
I saw them and I don't go very often
also my b i thought us agent was there but all the captain americas look the same
distant vortex
huh, somehow missed them
I don't think they were out for very long during the day
grand lintel
yeah i think i always missed them because i would start DL and leave early afternoon
errant ice
He was out for pride nite
distant vortex
I literally think the eternals are like their gap fillers lmao
errant ice
I got my picture with him
distant vortex
I think the guy who plays Phastos was playing M'Baku during BP2
errant ice
representation
toxic ingot
I'm glad you all remember more than one of the Eternals' names
distant vortex
Ikaris
errant ice
Gilgamesh
distant vortex
Ajak
toxic ingot
Kingo was the one I was thinking of, naturally
distant vortex
Druig
toxic ingot
Is Druig the Ezra looking one
distant vortex
yeah that's BARRY KEOGHAN
toxic ingot
Right, right
distant vortex
don't ever read the ireland subreddit if you're a fan of barry keoghan
irish ppl talk mad trash about what a dick he is
toxic ingot
But he looks like the character Ezra played in Fantastic Beasts with that bowl cut
distant vortex
kinda but ezra's hair is much darker and his eyes look dead inside
@toxic ingot actually kang might be the worst
since he's a literal conqueror
charred nexus
wait did they put kang in the park for quantumania lmfao
distant vortex
Yes
errant ice
Yeah
distant vortex
errant ice
For like two weeks
charred nexus
i guess i misssed that
distant vortex
also the guy who played phastos
errant ice
He was gone so fast
distant vortex
I did in fact go read this https://www.undercovertourist.com/blog/avengers-campus-characters/
charred nexus
was he gone before the Majors shit
i don't remember how soon after the movie that was
distant vortex
LOL i think so but idk
errant ice
Phastos with the purple Chanel boots
charred nexus
did they have a Cassie at that time
errant ice
Nope
charred nexus
that feels like an easy one to do
errant ice
Too much money
distant vortex
surprised they didn't have whoever played scarlet witch do cassie
errant ice
Which is funny cause they have Ant man and Wasp
distant vortex
uh they had the actual actress introduce avengers campus in a promo I think
errant ice
In masks so they could have just made a masked Cassie
distant vortex
charred nexus
i mean of all marvel things, ant-man feels like the one they should do the most for in AC
distant vortex
damn undercover tourist incomplete I'm gonna send them a letter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
errant ice
Wait
charred nexus
there's a whole fuckin restaurant for it
errant ice
I’m being gaslit
distant vortex
errant ice
HER HERO NAME IS SATURE
distant vortex
...... sature?
distant vortex
dude you know if she was wearing a mask in parks no one would know who tf she is
charred nexus
but yeah her hero name is Stature
errant ice
!leaving
sick mantleBOT
@errant ice has left the server 
Have a Disney Day! 
grand lintel
which i don't think was said in the movie at all
correct
distant vortex
LMAO i didn't even know that was her
toxic ingot
since he's a literal conqueror
By that token, Emperor Zurg and Darth Vader have been in the parks for a while. There's villains, and then there's villains, you know?
If we're just going by total body count Mulan beats several MCU characters
distant vortex
I mean Kang is pretty dark in both Quantumania and Loki
I don't think he's getting a redemption arc like Vader
Especially not now hehehe
charred nexus
I don't think he's getting a redemption arc like Vader
maybe not now considering they're probably (waiting for the strike to end to) frantically rewrite the next two avengers movies bc of majors but i wholly believe the original plan for Kang Dynasty would have had a Good Kang Variant™️ on the hero side
distant vortex
maybe not now considering they're probably (waiting for the strike to end to) fr...
ok maybe but they couldn't have done that right away cuz that would have been a weak ass villain imo
marvel literally suffers from a weak ass villain problem
toxic ingot
I mean Kang is pretty dark in both Quantumania and Loki
True. I suppose I'm looking at the optics of "the big bad emperor man from the colorful punch show" and "the guy who had to appear in front of a congressional hearing because his international incident went viral on social media," as far as theme parks go. (though Bottle says he wasn't a photo op)
distant vortex
I mean Scarlet Witch blew up all those people in civil war
And she also held an entire town captive
And the darkhold yadda yadda
She pretty bad and got a meet and greet
Right we're just talking on the scale of atrocities
REPAINT THE HULK COSTUME PURPLE FOR THANOS
god king thanos for the e-ticket quinjet
can't wait
DUDE!
Seeing how good the transformers are at USH
why the fuck is the hulk so bad
Actual no excuse for goofy ass hulk
distant vortex
yes i'm the #1 hulk meet and greet hater, i'll be the #1 thanos meet and greet hater too if it looks as fucking stupid
grand lintel
i dont even care if e ticket is shit at this point im just tired of nothing being there
distant vortex
Megatron actually made a child cry when I was watching him
toxic ingot
Everyone knows Kevin from Up is a puppet at the parks, I feel like two dudes on stilts dressed as the Hulk wouldn't even have to look that believable to work for people
distant vortex
I mean USH clearly has two people in the stegosaurus or whatever it is costume
toxic ingot
The compilations of Megatron roasting people at Universal are always fun
It's because Walt told them they couldn't show nip
grand lintel
ayo why he built like that 
toxic ingot
Walt knows what he said
distant vortex
The hulk costume the state of WDI
toxic ingot
It is actually crazy how the TFs move. It's more believable than the movies
jovial raptor
Hulk got those grabby hands.
toxic ingot
Speaking of which, why are his sleeves like that?
distant vortex
they literally have this dinosaur walk
at ush
meanwhile HULK can't move his arms
toxic ingot
Did all the Avengers' quantum suit sleeves end in fingerless gloves? Did Scott tailor every one?
toxic ingot
The fact that it's the quantum suit in the first place is extremely funny because Hulk wears that for like 12 frames of the movie.
distant vortex
they didn't wanna animate his face ok
it's too hard
He would have looked less stupid in the hulkbuster honestly
i like how hawkeye's hair is blonde in that
toxic ingot
And Tony and Rhodey are wearing suits sized for their armor.
I'm now thinking about Scott sitting in his bunk making these.
There's no unstable molecules in this world to explain where super suits come from
distant vortex
I thought tony made them
jovial raptor
I mean, they're all nanites so they go how they're programmed
distant vortex
And then Scott provided the pym particles
toxic ingot
Tony stopped being funny like 3 movies before this
distant vortex
they went fingerless so there's more green so you know it's hulk
toxic ingot
So Campus Hulk is specifically Endgame Concept Art Hulk
toxic ingot
The legs of it, yes
distant vortex
well he needs a back brace ok
grand lintel
wonder what they all looked like before the vfx, early suit design? black suit with dots? or their normal outfits
toxic ingot
They completely inverted the colors of Captain Marvel's costume in post.
And changed her hair too
This is Bigger Luke levels of headcanon
charred nexus
Megatron actually made a child cry when I was watching him
this is why Uni creative keeps winning
recycled pieces of a shrek costume scrapped together with a quantum suit
toxic ingot
well he needs a back brace ok
Not really related, but Tony has actually been called out in the comics once or twice for not updating War Machine's armor as often as his own. And the MCU kind of reflects that with Rhodey in the Big Chungus Mark IV armor while Tony is in the practically organic Mark 50 Iron Man suit.
distant vortex
Well that's beacuse Tony has a character arc and War Machine / Rhodey doesn't
Also he kinda basically stole Tony's suit
he's like the dude who you give your old iphone to
charred nexus
i mean, the original one literally stole
distant vortex
yeah
toxic ingot
I do think Rhodey liked the "walking tank" look though, because he got bigger and bigger every time
distant vortex
Yes, they have a line regarding that
distant vortex
But also Tony's journey in IM3 is him destroying all his suits so ofc he ain't got shit for Rhodey
toxic ingot
Rhodey does have a new suit in Age of Ultron though
charred nexus
and a new lower half of his body suit post-civil war
toxic ingot
When I was on the wiki looking for the number of his armor I discovered that Rhodey went through three costume changes in Endgame
grand lintel
Rhodeys civil war suit is pretty good compared to Tonys
AoU onwards sucks for Tony's suits imo
but i do like the IW suit
distant vortex
well once they become less physical they don't look/feel as cool on screen
grand lintel
yeah they become less bulky and "pannelled"
distant vortex
lol that armor gotta be fucked up tho
toxic ingot
I think the Iron Patriot was repaired and then repainted into the armor he uses in AoU
grand lintel
wtf is this from homecoming lmao
toxic ingot
It's the eyebrows. All of the suits between the VII and the L have those dumb eyebrows
charred nexus
they still did a mix of practical/cg suits but i think they end up fully replaced with cg in post
grand lintel
also civil wars bland ass color grading makes it look worse
charred nexus
also lmao this is secret invasion channel not generic marvel
distant vortex
imagine we could be talking about all this in the blessed #marvel-archive channel tho
sick mantleBOT
toxic ingot
Th Mark III is great. I really like all the Ultron skulls
distant vortex
wow see you there, ADMIN 
marble void
This became marvel chat 2
Talos and fury are the best character combo
I hate that we aren’t kept in suspense tbh
Like we know everything, it’s so boring
crisp dust
I ain’t reading stuff but finishing episode 1 and they did not just do Maria Hill dirty like that.
shut marsh
of course not lol
jovial raptor
Welp, I think Talos is though
errant ice
shut marsh
now ep4 was a good episode
toxic ingot
Aw, I liked Talos
They better get that guy a medal of honor or something. He died saving the president.
winged briar
No one's ever really gone strikes again. ugh
grand lintel
Good mix of practical and digital effects for the fight
torpid musk
Don Cheadle liking shade LMAO
rich prairie
based on some of his other likes I think he’s just not happy that they undermarketed it lol
marble void
Extremely expected fake death
marble void
And now the real one
toxic ingot
Rhodey 100% was not a Skrull in Endgame.
charred nexus
I think the idea is that he was in Falcon & Winter Solider
Watch his scene again, he’s talking about how unstable the world is and getting close to all out conflict again
jovial raptor
Yeah. He got swapped sometime between Endgame and F&WS
jovial raptor
Yeah. Would've been a nice addition to the confirmation this week but maybe they have a plan to reveal that when they actually out her/him
marble void
I mean there’s no other skrull swap that hasn’t been revealed that would be good no?
Like every new(to the show) character we just think will be skrulls
Swapping talos would’ve been really good I just thought lol, then giah and fury have to rescue talos
toxic ingot
Watch his scene again, he’s talking about how unstable the world is and getting ...
This would be funny in the sense that I think there's now only been one real conversation between two black people across the entire MCU outside of Black Panther (between Sam and Isaiah).
Rhodey and Sam in FatWS: one was a Skrull. Fury and Rhodey in Secret Invasion? Same Skrull.
marble void
Sam talks to his sister a bunch
honest frigate
Caught up with the show and it's insane for mcu phase 5 or 4.
I am surprised about fury having a skrull for a wife
distant vortex
Having fury grab a shot gun for that scene was stupid
charred nexus
If anyone else is even watching this and has the same question I did: the pilot is the guy from Black Widow
But goddamn what a boring episode.
/r/marvelstudios didn’t even put up a discussion thread lmao
rich prairie
It’s just kinda dull I think
charred nexus
I’m all for slow burn shows but this ain’t even that
rich prairie
Like I feel like a quarter of the show is really well written and the rest just is not on the same level at all
Or just have good scripts before filming begins
iirc they did like 2 months of reshoots on this
charred nexus
what was the fourth power listed on the screen when we saw what samples he had
there was extremis, groot, cull obsidian, and ?
oh right
also like
is rhodey's entire security detail also skrulls
he was pretty open talking about gravik there
rich prairie
idk why
But the fact that one of the security dudes just has a broken arm is kinda funny to me
like could they not find another guy
jovial raptor
I also had trouble with the pilot. I was like “have we seen him before? Cause just that short bit, I kinda like him.” Then i realized he might be the guy from BW and confirmed online
winged briar
sad but true
distant vortex
can't wait to watch today's episode, so hyped
Even it's defenders are fading
There's pretty much 0 reason a show with this concept needs to be boring. If you can't make a story interesting then just don't make a story. see: boba fett.
winged briar
why fury lets Skrull Rhodey go i can't figure out...he's a clear and present threat to the president and fury is like 'imma head out'
in the hallway before, he didn't, broken arm guy hadn't even drawn his gun
also Rhodey just told him Gravik needs him alive
its just one of the many weirdly written scenes that make this show boring
jovial raptor
That’s the thing, we don’t know exactly who is and isn’t a Skrull outside a few people
distant vortex
I hope the end episode is that they're literally all skrulls
winged briar
it was never earth, it was the Skrull homeworld all along
distant vortex
lol but that was the twist
winged briar
so...can Gravik die, or is extremis always going to bring him back to life? is he wolverine now?
distant vortex
I don’t really think so. I think there are a lot of other decisions they could have made to make this interesting / make sense
I’m just saying like hydra in winter soldier is more “secret invasion” than this entire show
I think the twist is one of the only things in captain marvel that works
That’s fair but tbh I think the writing still would have been bad
Like if they’re all united to turn into super skrull idk, would have been just as boring
winged briar
yeah why haven't they made an army of super skrulls, outside of gravik just being really bad at leading
distant vortex
I mean why aren’t they all dying from extremis
I assume their boot leg extremis isn’t fixed Tony version
I hope the ending is gravik explodes from extremis
Lmaooooo
winged briar
i was expecting a maria hill reveal on the plane
instead we got the boston red sox pilot
i mean...who knows right? the audience literally has nothing they can trust except maybe that fury is probably not a skrull? what else do we have
also why didn't the skrulls just replace the president? they got everyone else replaced
charred nexus
Man twitter has me building too high expectations again
I’ve accepted that Daisy isn’t gonna show up but I’ve seen multiple people with the idea now that Fury called in “the Cavalry” which is very explicitly May
Extremely true
winged briar
"Why are we in Finland?"
"I left a vial of mixed DNA that's now worthless and some clothes here in 1998"
😐
its the DNA...of all the avengers....just mixed into a bottle of liquid?
thats all i'm saying it is
stupid as fuck, we're on the same page
but the clothes...why a several thousand dollar authentication system to hide a hat, eye patch, and a pistol
just silly
distant vortex
Why would ppl think daisy would show up
Like for real lol
MCU doesn’t acknowledge AOS / that era of marvel TV. And wouldn’t all the space station shit at the end basically violate fury’s space station shit
distant vortex
I liked AOS but it wasn’t exactly prestige and also would mess up a lot of the movie stuff that they may want to use lol
charred nexus
i think at this point what most people want from it isn't the exact 7 seasons of the show being canon, just some of the characters coming back
distant vortex
Gravik needs better kills than constantly grooting people
charred nexus
gravik's whole CG budget went to groot-ing
like when they put the bag on his head it jump cut to full skrull head, no transformation
winged briar
"Oh no, Gravik killed my friend Talos, let me shoot him once"
"Oh he's still alive, time to go"
woven forge
void loom
distant vortex
fuck that's good
void loom
My best work
toxic ingot
I think this show is a good example of why "Marvelized" versions of thrillers (Cap2, FatWS) are better for the MCU than actual thrillers
Ben Mendelssohn and Samuel L Jackson having Intense Actor Conversations would be really badass in any other show, but here it's Talos (but we wouldn't pay for his VFX) and Fury (but we saved his eyepatch for the last episode). So it's just two old guys yelling at each other
rich prairie
I feel like the old guy yelling parts are the best lol
charred nexus
This is beyond glup shitto
grand lintel
Glup Shitto is Star Wars, Blorko is Marvel 🤓☝️
grand lintel
Damn how many times they gonna show Hill dying
Cobie Smulders keeps getting that special guest star credit
Also I realize this show has like 0 mystery, not to say there isn't tension. But we kinda know everything going on for both parties
shut marsh
all the mystery was gone pretty quick
grand lintel
Yeah kind of screwed either way. Not enough surprise heroes but also it starts messing with their previous appearances if there was more
void loom
That tweet is this sketch, with Adam Sandler as the show and Chris Farley as Disney/Hulu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXyW5w5RRFY
Or maybe Sandler is Disney/Hulu and Chris is the show? Either way, this show ||stinks|| 😂
teal roost
Watching Ep 5 now. I guess burying the dead is something they did on Skrullos too? (with Giah saying she needs to bury her father)
marble void
Better episode
The actual scenes are shot well imo, from the initial Maria hill death and other scenes like the torture and the presidents attack
Same with giah and the wife fighting
The plot is just so bad though
shut marsh
the only slightly redeeming part is fury and his wife
teal roost
I was right, it is Shooter McGavin who's in Secret Invasion. 😛
(He's the news anchor guy)
grand lintel
the only slightly redeeming part is fury and his wife
I like the British woman, she's a more morally gray character, but she still feels a little underdeveloped
last reef
I feel like you could watch Episode 1 to get the general sense of plot and skip to watching the finale to get to the inevitable Marvels tie in and not be confused which is pretty bad for a “spy” thriller.
crisp dust
Might honestly be what I do, but probably not
errant ice
Finally watched episode 5 earlier today
distant vortex
And?
errant ice
I will die for Sonya
She is MY queen
Camp. Check.
Sassy. Check.
Brutal. Check.
Gorgeous. Check
Oh I should actually read what y’all wrote
distant vortex
Yeah we all love her
errant ice
Okay good
charred nexus
Well, let’s see what is presumably The Marvels setup
Shortest episode of the season lmao
errant ice
Do I watch it now and then again with my partner or just wait till Thursday 
charred nexus
I don’t know if I agree with the mechanics of what’s happening right now
kind grove
glossy oak
Bautistarm?
charred nexus
This show is not beating the AI allegations
This fight is literally ||chatgpt being trained on every hero in the MCU||
I don’t want to wait like 5 years for Olivia Colman to show up again
This episode feels like half of it was cut out in the edit
errant ice
rich prairie
First mcu project without a post credits scene
Did they just not give a fuck
Like at all lol
woven forge
shut marsh
charred nexus
Wow, no credits scene either
shut marsh
so it just sets up the marvels opening
charred nexus
First mcu project without a post credits scene
Endgame didn’t have one
woven forge
so much for 200 mil
charred nexus
Okay so how much you wanna bet The Marvels opens with this Kree peace summit and the new Accuser kills Vara
shut marsh
that was a one and done show lol
rich prairie
Im so confused at the ending lol
shut marsh
yeah thats where cpt marvel is probably at during the trailers
charred nexus
I wanna see the side by side comparison because I’m like 90% sure the part of him using ebony Maw powers was literally the same CG animations from infinity war
rich prairie
there’s terrorists killing people and fury just leaves
shut marsh
there’s terrorists killing people and fury just leaves
ya not his problem any more
charred nexus
I guess Ritson starting a civil war and loosing a bunch of terrorists is why Harrison Ford will end up president in the next movie
rich prairie
I think they should’ve just made the show better
charred nexus
not to mention that emilia clarke is just y'know, hanging around now
as like a fuckin Omega Skrull
shut marsh
another op character now
glossy oak
Marvel bad
jovial raptor
<:KekHands:798590085125242910>
That hand looks so bad.
This show was very misguided.
charred nexus
does bautista get his $0.01 royalities for the use of his arm
errant ice
https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-krusty-the-clown-wth-what-the-hell-was-that-confused-gif-4720874
jovial raptor
Well we don’t know when Rhodey was replaced but I’m guessing it was after Endgame
inland cipher
naw wearing hospital gown, couldn't walk, after civil war
errant ice
Okay but why was gravik full skrull mode but giah was human mode
Also lol at gravik screaming at fury and it wasn’t even him
inland cipher
Giah rejecting skrulls because what they did with her father? But more like budget cgi reasons
jovial raptor
In terms of how he was acting though, the way he was portrayed in this and FaWS is different than before. Much more loose and stuff which is why I think even with the hospital gown, it was after endgame
charred nexus
okay so
the whole thing about "any person of off-world origin is the enemy"
they are following the comic kind of
after secret invasion was Dark Reign
which led into Siege
Which was Norman Osborn (sub in Valentina for the MCU most likely) leading the Dark Avengers (sub Thunderbolts) against New Asgard
void loom
I wonder if they still have the receipt for this production and can get a refund
rich prairie
I wonder how bad echo is gonna be if that’s the one they decided to drop all at once
distant vortex
And that’s why she hulk slaps
glossy oak
And Secret Invasion sucks
winged briar
wow that was bad
the slight misdirect on fury at the reactor vs the hospital was fine, decent acting from gravik's actor in the reactor room. the coughing from 5 minutes of mild radiation exposure and 'if you stop taking iodine tablets continuously you die' is middle school level understanding at best. the fight was basically an anime whatif of skrull fights, the rules about extremis are completely made up (half a head blown away? no problem, stomach? death)
distant vortex
I watched. It’s terrible
I think that fight might be the worst fight in MCU history
All I have to say is I told y’all the plot the was dumb from episode 1 and it was
Also unless any of these ppl are in the marvels you’re never seeing them again lol
shut marsh
still invested in the mcu to see how it setups the next show/movie
void loom
All I have to say is I told y’all the plot the was dumb from episode 1 and it wa...
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I wonder how twitter is defending this at the moment
distant vortex
Also got a serious question if a skrull takes Rhodey’s appearance would they also not be paralyzed?
Since skrull is supposed to be down to the DNA
the real answer for Rhodey is that they didn’t think it through when he got captured. Because even if he’s not paralyzed now - Tony would have known it wasn’t real Rhodey when he fixed him. And the leg contraption he’s seen wearing in one of the movies would not be able to be hidden under a suit.
Literal slim fit suits
Lol does a skrull take someone’s high blood pressure lolololololol
winged briar
yeah we were talking and theres zero good answer about his magically healed spine
void loom
Maybe I'm missing something, but this also has some quantamania "but why" questions, such as: "why would you not tell anyone about this for 30-years"
Seems like a thing you'd want to fill in a few avengers on
winged briar
no, fury has all the secrets
distant vortex
I mean don’t even get me started on that
winged briar
even though carol knows
distant vortex
I said the 30 years was stupid AF back in episode 1
winged briar
oh and the guardians (probably)
distant vortex
It literally doesn’t make sense
It should have been a period piece if they were really going to do this
void loom
Carol is the worst character in the MCU because she can solve pretty much every problem in a matter of minutes but Earth means nothing to her
winged briar
also, rodney never gets injured revealing his skrull behavior in anything since he was turned, which means it HAS to happen after endgame
distant vortex
means nothing lolololololol
winged briar
listen, its a big galaxy, and her family and friends dying is something she's willing to accept