Oh Hey Jak! I'm Julian the artist on the game.
Favourite feature hmmm I have a few main one would have to be giraffe abilities such as the giraffe copter. Also giving a bikini to a whale haha
#๐ฆใปthe-adventure-pals
rich reef
onyx knot
That actually sounds cool as heck
velvet garden
I like the boss fights and trying to find all the stickers!
onyx knot
Oh sweet, it's going to be interesting trying to find the stickers.
@velvet garden What's your favourite thing you've done with Never Give Up?
rich reef
Oh yeah stickers are actually really fun to get! ๐
onyx knot
Is there like some super secret thing for collecting all the secrets?
velvet garden
Never Give Up i really liked drawing all the little references to other games and movies. ๐
onyx knot
Nice, can't wait to see them.
onyx knot
Also I'm not sure about your time zone, but I'm gonna say good morning.
Hey Mongo.
How's it going?
onyx knot
I'm going good, currently watching House M.D.
devout nebula
neat
onyx knot
Ohhhh, I was looking at buying that. Is it as good as many people say?
onyx knot
does the denuvo still 'cause perfomance issues? and how often do you need the online check?
I believe the online check is constant.
The game does require internet connection at all times.
devout nebula
@onyx knot I heard about it, I didn't notice any issues though
onyx knot
Mhhm, it's amazing though. Denuvo did get cracked in about 8 days.
devout nebula
And I didn't try to play offline
onyx knot
afaik, the game was patched so that you don't need to be constantly online, but i think you need an online check every few days
devout nebula
That still sucks
onyx knot
Yeah, that actually still does suck.
devout nebula
I honestly think sega forced Denuvo on the game, not the dev team
onyx knot
@rich reef Will the PS4 version of TAP have any exclusive content that PC won't have, minor or major?
yh, definitely sega
It does make sense though, you wanna make profit right.
sort of
devout nebula
It's fishy buisness practices
onyx knot
but denuvo seems a waste on a 20$ game
they don't give it for free, + they probably hurt their sales a lot with it
If you enjoy the content, then yeah $20 is worth it.
Denuvo still make money anyways.
They got paid to put on there.
Doubt it bothers them.
yh, but sega probably paid denuvo a lot
Yeah for sure.
i think they would have made more money without denuvo
I mean they could of, it's really upto them now. If they want to remove it or keep it.
You can understand both sides.
when are the drc matchups coming out?
wrong server, sorry
People want to game wherever and without performance issues. However, the company doesn't want cracked versions of their game and for the game they worked on to be downloaded for free.
They're arguments on both sides.
devout nebula
Denuvo just caused sega unnecessary controversy around the game at launch
onyx knot
yh, but just by looking at the steam reviews on sonic mania, it makes me think they actually lost money with denuvo
Suppose so, I mean they could take this as a lesson.
Next time, they may not apply Denuvo.
It does make complete sense though, you've paid that much money to apply Denuvo to the product.
It would be a complete waste now to remove it.
Because that money was wasted.
Might aswell use it.
and it got cracked in like a week
Mhhm, that is true.
not sure if the crack is perfectly working, but still.......
devout nebula
I don't really understand how denuvo works, why did games like just cause 3 took months to crack, but this took a week
rich reef
Will be 100% the same haha
onyx knot
Oh sweet, thanks Julian ๐
@devout nebula I'm not actually sure? Maybe Denuvo has different levels of protection?
I couldn't provide a well answer.
@rich reef It's coming to Xbox One or you aren't sure?
rich reef
Yeah Xbox & PS4 we have announced for ๐
rich reef
Aw thanks !
onyx knot
Is the level editor going to be on console?
I'm not sure if it's coming to PC, I just remember seeing something about it.
rich reef
Ah we're sure on the level editor yet. If we release it it'd probably be a post release thing if the game is doing well ๐ฎ
As it's quite difficult at the moment to use haha
onyx knot
Yeah, that's fine. It would definitely be an interesting tool though.
Just really endless combinations.
so it might come out for pc too? or only xbox&ps4?
onyx knot
cool
Will the console have physical copies?
Or just be digital?
will online level sharing be available?
Might of overwhelmed Julian, sorry about that if it's too many questions.
rich reef
haha
console = digital
Physical copies for Desktop though for our KS backers
No online level sharing for initial launch ๐
onyx knot
Boom, thanks for answering the questions.
rich reef
No worries!
onyx knot
@rich reef I'm really sorry, but what do you prefer to play the game with: M+KB or Xbox360 Controller? In your opinion, which provides better gameplay?
rich reef
Controller is definitely better
onyx knot
But using M+KB is still a viable option?
rich reef
Sure is, we'll hopefully be integrated with razer chroma too if you've got a razer product
onyx knot
Oh dang.
That's crazy.
This probably is a long stretch, but any nintendo switch plans?
rich reef
Nothing to announce about Nintendo at the moment ๐
onyx knot
"At the moment"
Alrighty ๐
Will the game contain any microtransactions or DLCs?
Jeez, I really need to calm down on the questions. I'll keep that one as the last.
rich reef
haha nothing planned like that on initial launch
onyx knot
Alrighty, really appreciate you answering the questions.
next mist
severe dove
onyx knot
@severe dove Welcome ๐
next mist
thanks @onyx knot
onyx knot
No problem, what'cha doing currently?
next mist
I'm working on my js13k game ๐
onyx knot
Oh dang, any previews?
next mist
Twitter
onyx knot
I'm a tad confused, what's the idea behind the game?
next mist
It looks pretty much the same as I've been focusing on getting the audio to work
cold gate
onyx knot
@cold gate Welcome buddy!
next mist
The idea is a different take on tower defense games
next mist
cool, cheers
current size is 8k - and that's after getting the audio working, so I should be alright size-wise
rich swift
:3
rich swift
okay im here again ๐ hi @onyx knot
velvet garden
Welcome!! โจ
next mist
well, think of it this way: this png is 13k on its own: https://upsilon.cc/~zack/teaching/1011/gla/carcassonne/tiles/tile-a.png
onyx knot
@rich swift What are you doing, currently?
I mean, that's crazy dude.
If your game is 8k.
Nice work.
next mist
๐ cheers
onyx knot
No problem ๐
rich swift
currently im want to play full adventure pals as soon as possible @onyx knot
onyx knot
Haha, I'm pretty sure majority of us want to ๐
velvet garden
We're working on it guys ๐
onyx knot
@velvet garden , is this the biggest project Massive Monster has worked on?
velvet garden
Yes, definitely ๐ Its turned into something much bigger than was initially planned. We're very happy with how its turning out though!
onyx knot
Great, I guess no pain no gain. Is there any plans for NGU to come to console? I apologize if that's already been announced.
velvet garden
No plans yet, we'd love to do console but we're gonna launch NGU on Steam first. So we will see ๐
onyx knot
Sounds good.
rich swift
hey guys you are have an any the adventure pals wallpaper. ฤฑm want to use different wallpaper. Im currently using this and this is started boring me :3 (but definitley this is so cute) 
onyx knot
You're asking if we have any other wallpapers right?
rich swift
yes im writing so fast sry
rich reef
Hm that's the only promo art we have at the moment ๐ฎ
Maybe I can do up a giraffe face or something some time ๐
rich swift
โMaybe I can do up a giraffe face or something some timeโ. if u do this will be amazing @rich reef 
rich swift
nice :3
rich reef
Still gotta make some more emojis ๐
rich reef
Gotta do the Pals!
onyx knot
Of course.
velvet garden
What emojis would you guys like to see? ๐
turbid badge
JRAF
onyx knot
Some NGU emojis could be cool.
stark arrow
stark arrow
Hi! Decided to join as I've known about this game for a while. Played a demo of it way back, and it's pretty fun!
onyx knot
Mhm, got any ideas for emojis?
rich swift
girrafe face
onyx knot
Giraffe seems to be a popular emoji request
rich swift
Welcome @stark arrow
stark arrow
Thanks! Also, I think a hotdog emoji could be kind of funny. And yeah, I agree on the girrafe face.
onyx knot
@velvet garden Does the main character in NGU have a name? Like have you given it name personally?
Hotdog emoji sounds cool.
rich swift
or maybe mr.stone
velvet garden
Main character in NGU is called Blue ๐
rich swift
lol what is this ๐
onyx knot
Twitter
Never Give Up is another game, the development team of The Adventure Pals is working on.
Keep it TAP themed aswell.
rich swift
Wow i forgot this game this looks like very cool :3
onyx knot
Mhhm, it looks cool but is gonna cause massive anger.
median fable
Giraffe emoji!!
rich swift
๐
velvet garden
I have actually already made some NGU emojis, I think we should maybe keep the emojis on this channel Adventure Pals themed though?
rich reef
Jeez jimp taking over the Adventure Pals discord ๐
onyx knot
True, will NGU have it's own discord then?
rich reef
haha nah please put them in
rich swift
I like it 
runic kindle
onyx knot
@runic kindle Welcome 
slim jacinth
runic kindle
onyx knot
@slim jacinth Welcome
slim jacinth
Yo why are you promoting your discord channel to late at night ๐ฎ
I'm here for dank memes and flying giraffes
rich reef
You've come to the right place
runic kindle
It's day in Europe ))
slim jacinth
Ya the world revolves are nz tbh
slim jacinth
Names mana, in the Asian dude who introduced you to Victoria (the badge girl)
Who made the bat badges
slim jacinth
Ya she's in Melbourne now
rich reef
Oh whoa, you coming across the pond for Melbourne International Games Week?
slim jacinth
Thinking about it. It costs about 1k to make the trip
I'm leaning towards yes though
rich reef
Oh whoa, that's rough. Well there'll be a beer waiting for you if you do!
onyx knot
Julian, is there any TAP merch for sale?
rich reef
I'm in Australia, the guys are in the UK but Jay is moving to Canada haha. So we're covering all grounds!
onyx knot
That's actually a tad crazy.
velvet garden
We're an international mega-corporation! (not really)
onyx knot
Ahh, the dots connect.
slim jacinth
It's really impressive that y'all are producing something so amazing across continents
onyx knot
Yeah, must be hard to communicate with the time zones.
rich reef
It works out okay actually, as Jay ( the programmer ) is a morning person, while I'm usually up pretty late.
craggy valve
onyx knot
@craggy valve Welcome ๐
craggy valve
Hello there o/
onyx knot
How are you?
craggy valve
Very good (:
onyx knot
Cool, what'cha doing atm?
rich reef
๐ฎ I love your picture
craggy valve
Not a lot, planning to start working on I game I have in my head, and school...
hey Julian! Thanks
onyx knot
Any hints at the game?
onyx knot
Alrighty.
craggy valve
onyx knot
That looks pretty great so far man.
rich reef
Oh man, your art is so good ๐
velvet garden
I just love it!
craggy valve
Thank you guys~ ๐ ๐
velvet garden
welcome @craggy valve ! I recognise your avatar from twitter ^_^
craggy valve
Heyyy, I'm getting recognized ๐ณ
craggy valve
Thank you, I really appreciate it
oh I backed on kickstart, does that mean I can be orange too ? ๐ฎ
craggy valve
๐๐
onyx knot
Woooo
wide seal
velvet garden
Yo @wide seal !!
velvet garden
๐ฑ
wide seal
I saw the recommendation for you guys in the Ooblets chat, but just got around to rummaging the old messages and clicking it.
onyx knot
Not sure if anyone is on, but it's currently morning in Australia. So good morning
wide seal
waves from magical 5pm yesterday.
wide seal
Being distracted by Discord mostly.
onyx knot
Hello cowminer
wide seal
Pretending to work is less useful when you're the one waiting for you to finish something.
onyx knot
That sounds like it could be made into a quote
"Pretending to work is less useful when you're the one waiting for you to finish something."
-Karl
wide seal
"I'm typing to look busy but I don't believe I'm really working. Who do I think I am?"
pliant bolt
onyx knot
@pliant bolt Welcome
pliant bolt
Thank you!
pliant bolt
Thanks man ๐ I'm starting my day and about to work on uni stuff
onyx knot
Sounds alright, good morning I suppose. Good luck with the university work
onyx knot
I'm currently getting prepared to go out for the movies.
pliant bolt
Also, how do you verify you're a backer?
onyx knot
Yeah, or even on here.
@velvet garden @rich reef @turbid badge @true temple
Those are the admins I believe.
pliant bolt
Cheers! I guess they'll see your tags anyway ๐
onyx knot
Mhm.
turbid badge
@pliant bolt I got you covered! On behalf of the devs, thanks for being a backer!!
pliant bolt
๐ thanks @turbid badge
turbid badge
๐
pliant bolt
Looks like an amazing game and I'm keen for it
full sail
wide seal
wonders.
full sail
@jak hello!
full sail
About to go pickup my car from a friends place
onyx knot
Awesome ๐
onyx knot
@true temple Good morning, and good morning & hello to everyone else
onyx knot
Thanks, how's it going currently?
true temple
Pretty good! Had a big week working on the game so had a breather yesterday, but back to work in an hour two today ๐
How about you - what you up to?
onyx knot
I'm currently developing my skills in web design, everyone deserves a break ๐
It's great though to see the devs are still so passionate about the game.
@true temple, I asked this question to other developers. I was wondering about your answer, what is your favourite feature or just thing in general about TAP?
true temple
Great question!
I think my favourite thing is the world that we've created. It's one where anything can happen - so we are allowed to be as weird as we want!
I also really love the new levelling up system, where every time you get a level up you get a new power or ability
which keeps things interesting and making you want to reach that next level
onyx knot
I didn't expect the world answer, that's actually a cool answer. Yeah I noticed the levelling system and thought woooooooaaaaaaaaah.
I was also wondering, in the future could there be a co-op storyline?
Another question could be, what's been the toughest thing about TAP, like what was the most difficult thing to do?
true temple
At the moment the story we are telling has been such a huge undertaking and taken so long to do that we don't have any plans to make additional stories or co-op only stories. It's been hard enough to make the thing we are making
But who knows - we might always think about additional stories after the game releases and there is enough demand 'yknow?
onyx knot
Yeah, I completely understand.
true temple
I think the toughest thing has been just how big an undertaking it has been. We used to make flash games which you could finish in 3 months, where as this has taken years to do!
๐
onyx knot
Yeah, I thought the original concept of number 2 was about 3 years ago.
true temple
Making sure all the different design elemnts come together and that people understand all the traps and enemies and the way things work has also been tricky
Haha yes, you are right!
We basically wanted to start making it as soon as we finish Super Adventure Pals (the flash game)
so its been even longer really!
onyx knot
That's actually crazy, it's gone under many different designs I assume.
true temple
Yeah it looked really different to what we have now
onyx knot
Like why the name change to TAP instead of just keeping the two?
true temple
Well, two fold really
Firstly, we didn't want to exclude people who didn't play the first game. As there isn't really anything you need to know in this game that you would've learned in the first game, which also makes it not really a true sequel necessarily
It's more like a spiderman reboot than a sequel movie
onyx knot
Ohhh I see, yeah it does make sense then for the rename.
true temple
Right ๐
onyx knot
How did you know the previous designs just weren't what you wanted?
Just felt like, you could do better?
true temple
Absolutely, just knew we had more in us than what we started with
We started making it as a flash game, and so for it to be a 'real' game for PC & console we needed to really raise our game and make something worth while
onyx knot
Did you find it difficult to transition to using a different engine?
pliant bolt
heh raise our "game"
true temple
hehe ๐ pun intended!
It definitely took a bit of time, but when you start being able to do more with a new engine you immediately see it was worth it
pliant bolt
Did you guys have publishers before this project?
true temple
Having more power to add more details made it worthwhile
onyx knot
Yeah, I guess now it allows the game to come to console.
onyx knot
Did you guys know you wanted to work with armor games on the second project?
Or did it just all happen?
true temple
Well it helps that Armor Games are totally awesome and rad ๐
We've been working with them for a long time and they are just relentlessly great to us
They believed in us when we were pitching the idea for the game when a lot of people didn't
onyx knot
Oh wow, yeah they do sound really supportive.
It worked out in the end, a succesful kickstarter.
true temple
Exactly ๐ We are making a game we can be really proud of and really hope you will love! ๐
onyx knot
Is there any combos or secrets if you play CO-OP?
pliant bolt
(also love the art @velvet garden )
true temple
At the moment there aren't really. It's more of a hop in, hop out, but there is a bit of work to be done on it over the next week or so
as its been hard to test co-op when you are fixing the bugs, or doing the art by yourself
we've talked about a few ideas, but I'm not sure how it will work out just yet
onyx knot
I'm assuming it's just local and not online?
true temple
Yeah just local
onyx knot
Which makes sense, TAP seems like a couch game.
true temple
maybe in a future game we can do online ๐
Absolutely! Couch game with your buddy / sibling / parent / partner, etc
onyx knot
Mhm, brother and I are keen for it.
true temple
Super glad to hear that!
onyx knot
Is it 4K? like for console?
true temple
Yikes... Im not sure I think it scales up but we've made it in 1920x1080p
It looks good on a 4k monitor tho ๐
onyx knot
Oh sweet.
true temple
haha... I'm a programmer, but I'm not the best at technical stuff!
onyx knot
Are console & PC going to have the same release or is console going to be delayed for awhile?
true temple
It's all going to need to come out at the same time
pliant bolt
what is your role?
true temple
I'm the programmer + designer ๐
onyx knot
What would be awesome though, is with the TAP characters a short animated series.
Would be pretty unique.
true temple
Haha oh man, that would be the best!
onyx knot
So is it just you and julian working on the game?
true temple
It started out just the two of us - and the flash game was just us two - but now we have a lot of people who have worked on it and helped us
onyx knot
Yeah, I was going to say. It would of been insane for just two people to do all that work 
true temple
I know right?
pliant bolt
Did you have a demo to pitch? I know you had previous works though
onyx knot
What was in the flash demo?
true temple
good question...
it looked a lot more like SAP (flash)
It had a tutorial level, it had Treevale and it had a couple level sets
I actually think we pretty much finished it - but it was so bad we had to rethink a lot of it
onyx knot
Gosh.
true temple
I think we should do some before and afters to compare
But hey! You gotta start somewhere
onyx knot
Yeah, could make a video with it side by side.
Is there any like major features, you guys left out but really wanted to do because of time constraints or just wasn't possible?
true temple
Im just trying to think...
pliant bolt
Was it scoped down quite a bit?
pliant bolt
Interested! I hear a lot of people come up with something too out of scope
true temple
Maybe we might have wanted say co-op only maps, but I dont think we'll have time for this and really, the maps work great as they are so its not necessary
pliant bolt
interesting*
true temple
I also wanted to have a lot more text in the conversations, but we found it was a bit boring, so we cut the text back alot
But thats just to make it more fun
onyx knot
I asked Julian about the level editor, is it going to happen or still really uncertain as of now?
true temple
We had blacksmiths who could mod your weapon for you, but that was boring as well, so we put the weapon mods free to find in ruby chests in the levels. So again. not scoped back as we already did the work, but streamlined the game to make it more fun
Well, the level editor is a real mess at the moment. Maybe in the future, possibly but I wouldn't want ot commit as honestly, there are 105 levels in the game so there are probably enough!
onyx knot
Yeaaaah, that sounds like plenty.
true temple
haha ๐
marble burrow
true temple
Welcome Efe!
onyx knot
Mhm @marble burrow Welcome, how's it going?
marble burrow
Omg! Hello
onyx knot
Also @velvet garden Good to see ya online
velvet garden
hey hey!
onyx knot
How's it going, Jimp?
velvet garden
Im good thanks! Eating STRAWBERRIES ๐
onyx knot
Sounds great ๐
marble burrow
Oh! Ferret is also here. What a nice server
onyx knot
Jimp, what's your plan for today?
velvet garden
I need to tidy my office, do some work on Never give Up, maybe do some sketching later too
onyx knot
Sounds productive.
velvet garden
Wanna finish the book im reading too ๐
true temple
What book?
pliant bolt
@velvet garden I'm curious.. do you work in photoshop or flash then move to spine?
velvet garden
The Bone Clocks by David Mitchell - enjoyed it!
Yeah usually Flash > spine
i use photoshop a bit too
pliant bolt
.< love the work
tough trail
velvet garden
Thanks!
onyx knot
@tough trail Welcome, how's it going?
tough trail
ok
onyx knot
Awesome, I suppose
tough trail
xD
onyx knot
@velvet garden How do you think of the level ideas for NGU?
Or is it just done on the spot?
velvet garden
Actually we havent done many of the level designs for NGU - Tasselfoot from Armor has been handling those ๐
onyx knot
Oh cool, I assume there is also a level editor for it like TAP?
tough trail
I sent a question via the kickstarter thing, can i paste it here too?
velvet garden
Yes there is! The level editor in NGU will be included with the game too, so you'll be able to make your own levels and share them, and play other peoples levels ๐
sure!
tough trail
ok 1 sec
onyx knot
NGU isn't planned for console is it?
velvet garden
Not currently no - we're gonna launch Steam first and see how it goes ๐
tough trail
here it is:
Hello! I loved Super adventure pals and revisit it to play through the whole game every year. as such, you can assume i'm really hyped for this new game. Because of this I would like to pledge some money however apparently i can't because the 'funding period' is over. This really annoys me especially since you haven't even reached your full budget. Is there some way I could still pledge?
P.s. FYI i was planning on getting 'game pack', and would very much like to still receive all the bonuses that come with that (I would pay more but i dont have the money, sorry!).
you keep saying ngu. what does it mean? i assume the adventure pals
onyx knot
Never Give Up is another game being made by Massive Monsters, developed by @velvet garden
tough trail
ok ty
onyx knot
All good, see you later.
velvet garden
@tough trail So glad youre looking forward to the game! Unfortunuately its just the way that kickstarter works, once the campaign ends we are unable to take further pledges. You can find some of the items in the link that @onyx knot kindly posted above though!
onyx knot
Oh dang, yeah apologies for that. I thought the link would be able to do pledges.
Jimp, is NGU having it's own kickstarter?
velvet garden
No plans for a NGU kickstarter!
onyx knot
Oh alright, cool.
true temple
You can still get some of the rewards through the backerkit link I think - but it won't be one of the pledge levels ๐
onyx knot
Is anybody able to confirm how comfortable the Giraffe Hat is?
velvet garden
Can confirm - its SUPER comfortable!
onyx knot
๐ฎ
velvet garden
warm ears ๐
onyx knot
"Each one individually created with love and care, making each unique in its own special way."
Wow, it makes me feel so special ๐
With the Giraffe T shirt, easily guaranteed the attraction of anyone ๐
velvet garden
WHOO did you pledge for the hat + shirt combo?
onyx knot
Nop ๐ข I really want the shirt though. I shall purchase the shirt!
velvet garden
have a cupcake!
onyx knot
Jimp, is NGU merch going to happen?
velvet garden
Im not totally sure... we did do some t shirts for when we went to PAX, but I think those were a limited time thing
onyx knot
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.............................................
That's fine, ya never know in the future.
true temple
Not many!
onyx knot
i'm going through stage 1 and 2 reset hell
damn, wrong server again
Do you guys wanna expand or you guys happy with how it is?
true temple
Haha
So for Massive Monster, it is me, Jimp and Julian but we collaborate with alot of people
So we have people who did the music, alot of animations, sound effects, level design
We kinda grow and shrink alot
onyx knot
Oh that's cool, well it must be cool to have a game development group with some of your best mates. ๐
velvet garden
yeah
true temple
'friend' is a strong word...
velvet garden
in an ideal world, these two games do really well and allow us to employ a few more people full time, so our next game can be bigger/better/faster ๐
true temple
Yeah, we definitely want to expand
velvet garden
yeah me and Jay 'tolerate' each other
onyx knot
Hahahaa, yeah it would be awesome to see the team expand.
Is there anything certain you look for in a team member?
Or if someone can code, then yup.
velvet garden
Well their name needs to begin with a 'J', thats the most important thing
so youre in!
onyx knot
If you guys actually managed to keep that pattern for the entire duration of the company.
I would honestly be impressed.
๐ฎ I'm in wooaaah.
pliant bolt
@true temple what's your twitter? (if you have one)
onyx knot
Jimp, I've got chu. What's your twitter?
velvet garden
mine is @artjimp
jays is @jaymaxarmstrong
๐
pliant bolt
I already follow @velvet garden ๐
velvet garden
๐
onyx knot
For the trailer, did someone in Massive Monster do the voice over. Or was someone hired?
velvet garden
the latest TAP trailer? we hired someone in for that ๐ they did a great job!
true temple
yeah sorry its @jaymaxarmstrong
onyx knot
Yeah, the latest trailer is great ๐
onyx knot
Is TAP going to have any voice acting in it?
pliant bolt
Did someone say Aussie? ๐
onyx knot
Yeaah, I can just imagine in my head. Sorta with bastion how they have the narrator talking over the player. Would be interesting to see in an alternate reality TAP with that.
velvet garden
its something we wanted to do, full voiceacting was one of the higher tiers on the kickstarter but unfortunately we didnt reach it. Getting all the conversations acted would have been a looot of work and cost a lot
true temple
We actually tried, but we suck at acting! We actually made it worse
onyx knot
Dang, didn't expect that. Feels bad.
true temple
@pliant bolt Julian is based in Sydney Australia
onyx knot
But I mean, hey! If the game goes succesfully. The third will be maybe be voice acted like a boss.
pliant bolt
I would say seeking people to voice act for free though, it could be better if it was paid work
onyx knot
Yeah, but to do voice acting free, never know when they're going to be available.
onyx knot
I do know though, the skyrim community has alot of voice actors that volunteer. Like recently a DLC sized mod came out for skyrim, it was all done by people volunteering from the community.
true temple
Oh really? That's interesting! Not sure how we are doing on time though, it would be a huge undertaking and we want to get the game out ๐
But yeah good to know
@pliant bolt Oh nice you are in Brisbane! That's awesome!
If we do a sequel, we'll put voice acting as a top priority!
onyx knot
Yeah, makes sense. Wth the KS demo. Text worked anyways, I didn't have any issues with it.
true temple
Good! I'm glad to hear that
onyx knot
If a sequel does occur, I must request some VA from the Massive Monster Team.
true temple
it's a deal!
onyx knot
Yeah, it was great to chat.
tough trail
<@&353180930439118860> I looked at the site jak sent me ( https://adventurepals.backerkit.com/ ) however i am dissapointed that there is no way i can get the credits in game or early beta access. is there any hope for me on that front?
onyx knot
I'm afraid not, jay discussed that earlier.
tough trail
๐ข
onyx knot
The kickstarter is over, not able to take anymore pledges.
Really sorry about that mate.
The game may go into "early access" on steam for beta. You never know.
tough trail
I've been a fan of the original since it first came out when i was really young so i apoligise if i cry a bit irl. but that's not your problem.
I'ts funny, i made a kickstarter account just for this game, and then couldn't use it..
onyx knot
I'm deeply sorry, maybe once @rich reef or @true temple return they come work something out. However, currently no more pledges can be made. You can pre-order the physical box and the character skins.
tough trail
Sorry! I'm prone to emotional overatachment
and yes i do plan to buy the skins and wallpaper
don't worry it's not your fault or the devs
onyx knot
Sounds great man.
tough trail
i'm sure there are plenty of other people who treat this game as if it were the original super mario bros.
onyx knot
I'm not too sure, with the credits though, maybe if you pre-order an item on backerkit it may allow your name in credits? I'm not entirely sure.
onyx knot
I'm not positive or saying it will happen, it's just a possibility. It would be the choice of @rich reef & @true temple & @velvet garden
tough trail
ok well i gtg again because i'm busy and i also need to take my mind of the game so i can stop feeling bad about myseld
*self
thanks for being supportive
onyx knot
I hope you cheer up man and get better, that's fine. Hope you complete whatever you need to with success ๐
tough trail
thanks..
tough trail
I'm no longer SUPER sad, however i am quite frustrated that i can't find the demo download on the gamejolt page.. any help? https://gamejolt.com/games/the-adventure-pals-demo/173637 @here
velvet garden
Hmmm.. I think we miiiight have taken the demo offline a while back
its really old now and not really representative of the quality of the final game
tough trail
ok, could i have one anyway???
true temple
Oh that is right, because the game has improved so much, the demo makes it look bad, so we took it down with the aim of replacing with an update version. Ill try and update it this week and then send you a link @tough trail
tough trail
@true temple Thanks! :)
versed steppe
yes
wide seal
Sounds like a lot more than just an "expansion", it's a total do-over.
tired sleet
alright
craggy valve
It's a new game
Btw Catt, why is your profile pic like that? It really bothers me for some reason ๐
or is it actually just a circle filled with the discord background color
craggy valve
Haha alright
wide seal
He's invisible!
tired sleet
Stealth
Watch this
spooky
wait
Someone say something to separate my message
Pls
tough trail
I would do a tts but u can't on mobile.
true temple
@tired sleet It's definitely not an expansion! ๐ Its a brand new huge game with 105 levels, 25 quests, 5 arenas, towns, new art entirely, new mechanics - its a brand new game that we've been working super hard on for years and years
tired sleet
Ok yay
Ballpark estimate how many hours of gameplay would you say
10, 50, 100
30
tough trail
I'm banking on 10-15
wide seal
47 minutes and 12 seconds.
tough trail
xD
true temple
We think somewhere between 10 and 15 hours
tough trail
Called it!
true temple
high five
tough trail
I just realised something. You guys need a catchphrase! (i.e. "it's adventure (pals) time!") xD
onyx knot
@velvet garden I've been wondering, is your name actually Jimp?
velvet garden
Its James ๐
onyx knot
Oh awesome, how did the nickname Jimp come around?
velvet garden
haha friends called it me since school... guess it kinda stuck!
right time for bed - take it easy guys!
onyx knot
Jimp is quite unique, what are you doing currently?
slim jacinth
Found this at the shop and thought of this game. I think I will forever associate giraffes with this game :/
onyx knot
@true temple & @velvet garden Good mornin, and @rich reef Good evening/night
rich reef
Evening!
Haha Mana I actually have a big giraffe that I take to expos ๐
onyx knot
That's quite cool Julian.
Julian, I gots to know how do you stay up so late.
Once it's 1am I die.
onyx knot
Yeah, but I'm thinking bout staying up late tonight.
I gotta know if there are any techniques.
onyx knot
Mhhm.
pliant bolt
black tea can be useful as well
onyx knot
Oh aight.
pliant bolt
Just me anything ๐
rich reef
Yeah 730 ๐ฎ
onyx knot
Julian, you got any techniques to staying awake all night?
rich reef
Necter of the gods
pliant bolt
try a one shot mocha if you don't like coffee
onyx knot
One shot mocha.
Sounds intense.
Necter of the gods, goddang Julian.
What coffee do you usually have?
rich reef
Large Flat White, Soy Milk, No Sugar haha
onyx knot
That is what the gods have?
rich reef
Yup & waking up late
onyx knot
What time do you wake up?
rich reef
at the moment about 10-11. But used to be around midday
onyx knot
Duude, if I wake up past 12 PM I feel like I've missed majority of my day.
rich reef
Just make up for it in the night
pliant bolt
Here here
pliant bolt
There's a sun?
onyx knot
Yeah, it's weird.
rich reef
haha what is it you study Pancake?
pliant bolt
Bachelor of Games and Interactive Environments
onyx knot
Nice, how are you finding it atm?
pliant bolt
Insanely time consuming, very interesting (a lot more to games then meets the eyes), though not difficult if you put the effort in
onyx knot
I was thinking about going to QUT, is it good or do you think there could be better?
narrow ether
onyx knot
@narrow ether Welcome ๐
pliant bolt
Oh you're in Brissy?!
pliant bolt
I personally love QUT ๐ Wouldn't go to any other uni
onyx knot
Oh sweet.
Yeah, my mate is keen for me to move and stay with him. I'll be going down later next year.
rich reef
Oh awesome, where are you studying?
I'm completing my final semester at the moment doing a bachelor of design ( visual communication )
onyx knot
Pancake, you never know we might run into each other next year ๐ฎ
pliant bolt
Perhaps my final year next year ;0
@rich reef Queensland University of Technology, you?
onyx knot
How long is your course?
rich reef
Nice! At Western Sydney University ๐
pliant bolt
3 years, there's possiblity to study masters or PhD though
onyx knot
Oh nice.
I'm not too sure on doing game design just yet though.
Not many companies in Australia.
pliant bolt
I actually used to live in Sydney ๐
The Australian industry isn't great. Victoria has the best support in Australia so I hear
onyx knot
Oh alright, yeah. Australia Game Industry isn't too good. Didn't 2K Australia and THQ shut down?
@rich reef Make a Massive Monster headquarters in Australia โค
pliant bolt
@rich reef I think Wahroonga?
Part of the reason it sucks is the expense and lack of support. There isn't much funding.
onyx knot
Pancake, who you planning to work for after University?
pliant bolt
Honestly, I just want to create games that I love. I'd prefer a smaller company as opposed to say.. Blizzard
Perhaps as an indie? Who knows?!
onyx knot
Mhhm, I understand. It's nice to work with small companies.
rich reef
Ha I'd love too.
onyx knot
Julian, you going to move to the UK to join the rest of Massive Monster team?
rich reef
Well Jays off to Canada, so probs not haha
pliant bolt
Holy damn... Canada is a goal of mine if I ever had my own games studio
onyx knot
Why Canada?
pliant bolt
Probably the best for small games companies (large too i'd think), they subsidise games production and are acutally supportive
From what I understand at least
Also it's cold... So that's a plus
onyx knot
It's supportive.
wooah.
If there is one place I wanna visit though.
It's Kenney Land / pixeland
Sounds like an awesome idea.
pliant bolt
That looks cool!
onyx knot
Kenney is 100% a very talented dude.
pliant bolt
There a new open offices in Brisbane but they're quite expensive. And carrying a Wacom on public transport isn't fun
a few*
pliant bolt
I think Australia is in general
Haha couldn't live any closer to the equator... TOO HOT
pliant bolt
True true! Sadly I'm starting on a budget of free ๐ฆ
onyx knot
๐ข
It's okay, TAP just has to sell amazingly well and Julian opens Massive Monster in Australia.
Ezpz.
onyx knot
Is that the only massive surviving one atm?
pliant bolt
Probably not, first one that came to mind since it's in Brisbane
pliant bolt
of course!
onyx knot
They aren't Massive Monster though.
pliant bolt
ha ha they aren't ๐
chrome ether
onyx knot
@chrome ether Welcome ๐
candid scarab
onyx knot
@candid scarab Welcome ๐
true temple
Howdy!
balmy narwhal
onyx knot
@balmy narwhal Welcome ๐ฎ
balmy narwhal
Yo
onyx knot
No problem, what time is it where you are?
balmy narwhal
Reading about the holocaust.
onyx knot
I learnt about that in history this term ๐ฎ
rich reef
Hey Kupo! ๐
snow wind
onyx knot
@snow wind Welcome to the TAP server!
snow wind
Heya!
candid scarab
Nicely
craggy valve
Hey new peeps
true temple
Hey all! Welcome, welcome!
true temple
Hey Matt hows it going man? Thanks for signing up!
full sail
woooo! Matt!
true temple
Is that @full sail as in Daniel Sun Armed with wings?
rich reef
๐ฎ Welcome Daniel
true temple
@balmy narwhal @full sail
tired sleet
Jimp didn't you make sushi cat and elephant quest as well?
onyx knot
I can't remember who made it, but I remember playing a flash game about pirates.
I know it was a dev from Massive Monster.
It was quite fun at the time.
true temple
You should be able to give him a notification by including '@'
so you go @velvet garden and he should magically appear
tired sleet
Yeah, didn't know if that was allowed, some servers don't like people mentioning them
balmy narwhal
Yeah, like mine. ๐
tired sleet
Yep
velvet garden
Hey Matt! and D-sun! and Cryadis!
full sail
Hi @velvet garden!
full sail
๐ฎ
velvet garden
hey Chat! ๐
tough trail
:D
velvet garden
@tired sleet yes I did the art for sushi cat games and elephant quest ๐
pliant bolt
hi @pliant bolt
full sail
sushi cat is dope
tough trail
Omg I love e quest too!
full sail
elephant quest is legandary
onyx knot
Hi Pancake ๐
tough trail
Dream Devs xD
pliant bolt
hi jak XD
full sail
@velvet garden you did a GDC talk on flash?
onyx knot
Achievement Unlocked ๐ฎ
tough trail
Every1 new hashtag #dreamdevs xD
velvet garden
Hmm no I never spoke at GDC
i did talk at Flash Gaming Summit one year
you might be thinking of jmtb02 ๐
full sail
ah i'm thinking of jmtb02 indeed - just looked it up
velvet garden
His GDC talk was great!
full sail
so good
velvet garden
I couldnt watch it in person as I only had a lowly Indie Summit Pass so wasnt allowed in ๐ฉ
tough trail
xD
true temple
Haha oh yeah we weren't even allowed the coffee
tough trail
lel
true temple
Oh no... that was a couple years back
full sail
I haven't even GDC'd D:
true temple
I went once, and it was a total blast, but it was still the flash hey day
I havent been since
onyx knot
Jay, what engine is TAP developed in?
balmy narwhal
I can't justify the expense. I'll go to smaller local events though.
tough trail
lel saw that sneaky edit xD
tough trail
Howlo
true temple
@onyx knot It's developed in a home-brewed 'engine' but made in HAXE using OpenFl library
full sail
that's fkn cazy
true temple
and then it is cross compiled into C# and exported using unity
haha yeah... it really is ๐
full sail
I'm still amazing by that fact.
onyx knot
Wooaaah, sounds like quite the work
true temple
Its part of why its taken so long, developing that system
velvet garden
@balmy narwhal yeah its definitely expensive... I would say its a crazy good experience though, you should definitely do it one day! UK indie road trip!!!
true temple
but without it we could never hit console
tough trail
No work is too much for MM!
onyx knot
Are you going to be using that engine for other games or is just built mainly for TAP?
balmy narwhal
But I haven't even been everywhere in the UK yet!
true temple
I think we will just use Unity next time and save us a lot of trouble! haha
tough trail
xD
pliant bolt
C# and Unity ftw
onyx knot
Yeah, might be a good choice.
true temple
I really think its not worth doing your own thing - just use Unity and make life easier!
tough trail
I'd call it "the tap" xD
true temple
Hahaa nice ๐
tough trail
Ty
true temple
No name... not really an engine so to speak... more like a few libraries? Im not sure, Im not sure the terms
tough trail
xD
onyx knot
Oh alrighty. It's allowed TAP to be produced. So eh, no complaints.
full sail
I'm probs gonna develop directly in unity moving forward
even though parts of it grose me out
true temple
What have you been using so far Daniel? AIR?
full sail
yup
true temple
Hahaha totally agree with you there!
full sail
It's be the best if it wasn't balls slow
balmy narwhal
I agree
pliant bolt
Good to know people use Unity. I've heard so much about Unreal when my uni is teaching me Unity
tough trail
xD
full sail
unity is pop
onyx knot
Unity UI is ehh.
pliant bolt
I tried Unreal... not my fav. I guess I'm just C# bias
full sail
UI is shite
tough trail
xD
onyx knot
Yeaahp, it has so much potential though ๐ข
pliant bolt
to be fair it's reminds me of Flash? Not the best user friendly-wise though does the job and can do it well when you know it
onyx knot
I mean, I do prefer the UI of Flash over Unity though.
pliant bolt
Yeah XD, While there wasn't much difference I like what it is now (Animate)
onyx knot
Animate is great, I really love the in-built camera.
full sail
can't have instanced nested prefabs. dumb dumb dumb.
full sail
peaace @tough trail
pliant bolt
cya @tough trail
tough trail
Baaaah!
burnt bane
velvet garden
Heyyyy, welcome @burnt bane !
meager quiver
midnight bridge
velvet garden
Hey new peeps!
smoky canopy
fleet grove
pliant bolt
party party yah
fleet grove
yeah!
pliant bolt
welcome btw!
fleet grove
thx
muted urchin
pliant bolt
Bonjour
fleet grove
hiyo
sacred remnant
I'm a Kickstarter backer too. Just saw the update.
pliant bolt
@true temple @rich reef @velvet garden ^
sacred remnant
Congrats on the Level Up award. ๐พ
velvet garden
Whoop! thanks for backing us mate!
sacred remnant
Thanks for making the game. ๐ Let me know if you need help with testing of the Linux version.
velvet garden
awesome, will do!
onyx knot
server is growing
velvet garden
Thats what we like to see! Tell all your friends to join us! ๐ณ
wild valley
tough trail
rick sanchez!?
im half rick sanchez
i gots a new nickname because ninety percent of what i say on this server is 'xD' xD
true temple
xD
scenic tiger
tiny agate
worldly tangle
coarse valve
cerulean light
turbid badge
whoa so many new folks!
true temple
We have so many new 'pals!
cerulean light
How's it going?
velvet garden
Welcome folks!
scenic tiger
ayyyyyyyyy
red urchin
aaaaayyyyyyy lol
stone plover
Hiya!
slim vortex
empty tusk
wide seal
Oh dear, it's too late now!
hollow eagle
wide seal
waves
velvet garden
@prisma acorn Not entirely sure what formats the soundtrack will be available in im afraid, can ask our musician though!
prisma acorn
@velvet garden Gotcha, sounds good! I loved the music in the first Adventure Pals and can't wait for this one!
stoic aurora
wide seal
gets his phone out to take pictures.
stoic aurora
waves
tired sleet
So many people are joining lol
I am very surprised to say I got here before Kupo and D-sun
wide seal
gets out a new roll of tin foil.
random gull
Hops in time machine
random gull
It's mine. ALL MINE!