monster-discussion

[little berry]

Or it should be for the colossal water?

He might be in it as parent.

Ok

[hoary hornet]

Which Samuel is the best

[steep wind]

Plague Carrier

[waxen totem]

@little berry Sekiwake or megashira?

[little berry]

Sekiwake can come handy

Regen is always nice while the other gives immunity to torture

Pick what you want

[outer inlet]

I just got this

[steep wind]

Nice

Best pull

[outer inlet]

Thx

Does the nemesis glitch still work

[steep wind]

No

I tried with Xiron the Emerald

[outer inlet]

They fixed it

[steep wind]

Sadly yes

[outer inlet]

It was the best glitch

[little berry]

Is there a glitch for elite days?

[bitter wedge]

No

[outer inlet]

It think it only work on nemesis

[bitter wedge]

The skills glitch?

[outer inlet]

Ye

[bitter wedge]

That was patched as soon as it was discovered

Well not immediately but very quickly

[outer inlet]

Ok thx for telling me

[neon cypress]

What’s the best move set for frostwrath?

[little berry]

Cold fusion
Shivering bite
Icy bolt
Polar beam

[spiral walrus]

Rociuko or Devastress?

[nimble abyss]

Hi

[steep wind]

Rociuko is support and Devastress is an attacker

[spiral walrus]

I would like to choose one to level up until 130 with either light cells or magic cells

What do you think?

[steep wind]

Depends on what you need most

Although Rociuko gets a bunch of good traits as she ranks up

[spiral walrus]

Yeaah I see

My light lvl 130 is ingvar and 115 elvira.

But enough light cells to make my rociuko at least 120.

I havent played for 1 entire year and just got back last April.

[steep wind]

If you want to rank up Elvira further from the dungeon then I'd recommend Rociuko

[spiral walrus]

Yes I am saving all my heroic orbs

For elvira 130

Do you know what runes and skills for rociuko?

[steep wind]

2 TS and 1 Speed

[spiral walrus]

Ok cool

Thx

Just upgraded it to 110 with gems

[steep wind]

As for moves, use the moves that aren't the Weakness Applying moves or the basic skills

[spiral walrus]

Okay

Will do that

Thanks

Got evade skill, nanovirus skills, damage reduction skill and rociuko is here

[steep wind]

Looks good

[austere kestrel]

Looking cool

[spiral walrus]

Hahahaha

She is awesome lol

Pierced through evade from elvira bahaha

[steep wind]

Yes she is

[spiral walrus]

I can level her up to 120 with elementium but not sure if is worth it now or wait to get few more elementiuns

[steep wind]

If you want to go for it then do

[ornate oak]

I’d wait. Or go for something with Dodge Area. Due to all the new Mythics coming out.

[median valve]

Is warspellz a good monster?

[steep wind]

if you're low level then yes

[long moth]

How’s my team for Nemesis Dungeon? I also have Warthak, Hudratila, and R2 Lucifire Helltaser. And what runes?

[gusty cypress]

Guys is frostwrath and globrush good

[steep wind]

Your Nemesis team is good, I'd recommend making Warthak or Helltaser your main attacker and replace Hydralita if you can

[gusty cypress]

Guys is frostwrath and globrush good?

[steep wind]

For low level players yes

[thick silo]

How is zombic is he good ? And should I get him for R1 to get Pierce or get ugluk for R2 ?

[steep wind]

I'd say prioritise Ugluk over Zombic although Zombic is pretty good

[thick silo]

Ok thank u 👍

[long moth]

@steep wind you prefer Helltaser over Hopefreezer?

[steep wind]

Oh didn't realise the designs were different

Hopefreezer is better from what I've heard

[long moth]

@steep wind oh I don’t think you understood my post. Picture is also mine. I mentioned other Nemesis I have (not using).

[steep wind]

I understand that all those nemesis monsters are yours

[long moth]

@steep wind so what do you mean replace Hydratila?

[steep wind]

Yes

[long moth]

No, what do you mean? He’s not on my team.

My team is Lucifire, Samael, and Faraday.

[steep wind]

Well I mean don't use Hydralita

[long moth]

Yeah, wasn’t planning on it. Thanks.

[split ermine]

How do I obtain scolls for the new dungeon?

[austere kestrel]

the new dungeon or the quest dungeon?

for quest dungeon, you must get a breeding done, with the two monsters for the breeding event.
Succesful or not, you'll get Quest Scrolls for the Quest Dungeon (more if the end result is one of the correct ones).
If you talking about the monster's survival dungeon, you only need one key that you usually get from a correct breeding.

[spiral raptor]

Is this race monster good?

[pearl citrus]

Is like cyberiel

But better

[glossy gate]

Kawthors food good yeah

Cyberial isn’t bad.. and miserus is also not bad, but cyberials better. I think kawthor will be great

[primal saffron]

in my opinion miserus was too trash (but annoying) and kawthor is too op if you look at armour gamings monster review

[austere kestrel]

Kawthor is the first proper tank

[primal saffron]

ok?

[austere kestrel]

Erder was kinda getting there.

[primal saffron]

i mean ouros is a good tank too

and fulmen

[austere kestrel]

But he's not beating any records with Tayni around doing PER and Trait Disable

Kawthor I mean

also, those two are super outdated lol

[primal saffron]

lol

[austere kestrel]

Kathor's just weird. It seems to have the Armor Claw syndrome, but his skill actually catter him towards one side rather than the other.

He has no inherent taunt, so I'll see him dropping as a tank. And his attacking moves aren't that busted either.

He does have a 0CD 0S move, but that's about it for attacking

but he's nowhere near OP ranking lol

Also, like...

in my opinion miserus was too trash (but annoying)
How is Miserus trash? He has PER, heals and resurrections, along with double damage skills for allies.

He's pretty good to ensure attackers get the edge in battle.

[little berry]

Kawthor is definitely an attacker tho

[fiery tapir]

miserus has saved me so many times with his heals and resurrections

kawthor is a tanky attacker with his self heals

[austere kestrel]

is he? most of his skill apply heals and regenerations and taunt and skill mirror and such

[fiery tapir]

he can deal decent damage and then heal himself

[austere kestrel]

I mean, he has no inherited taunt unless you use a skill, but eh.

[little berry]

Durability is entirely different from tanking

[austere kestrel]

For dealing damage, he needs a bit of a boost I think

and not the self-one he applies by killing a teammate

[fiery tapir]

yeah possibly

[little berry]

As an attacker he’s a better cyberiel

[fiery tapir]

i dont think so

[little berry]

Not really an opinion tho

[fiery tapir]

its not a fact either tho

👉 👈 😳

[little berry]

Kinda is :tbhfam:

[fiery tapir]

no

cyberiel is a better attacker by far than kawthor

[little berry]

Lmao

[fiery tapir]

an extra turn skill and nanovirus aoe

kawthor is more tank than attacker

[austere kestrel]

Cyberiel is better, I gotta say.

[little berry]

Nah

[austere kestrel]

Slow attackers are not cutting it on mythics I think

[little berry]

Good luck using extra turns without trait disable

[austere kestrel]

at least, not without taunts

[fiery tapir]

u dont need trait disable tho

[little berry]

Wdym slow?

[austere kestrel]

compared to other mythics, I mean

[fiery tapir]

yeah

[little berry]

:Yoda:

[fiery tapir]

if u want u can just run kawthor with 2 strength and a speed if u say he is a better attacker than cyberiel

[little berry]

Well I won’t be running either of them since I’ve uninstalled

Doesn’t change that he’s better tho :KEKWGA:

[fiery tapir]

wow u dont even have the game

and ur spitting such lies

i spit at u

[little berry]

Lies how?

[fiery tapir]

SPIT

[little berry]

Compare the two

Kawthor’s strongest single target is 65 dmg, Cyberiel’s is 60, both have a 45 dmg AOE but Kawthor has the 45 single target 0 CD 0 stamina

Plus a higher power stat

[fiery tapir]

cyberiel has an extra turn skill nanovirus aoe which blocks positive effects is faster than kawthor and IS AN ATTACKER

[little berry]

“Extra turner”

[fiery tapir]

kawthor on the other hand is a tank with high damage skills than can heal him

[little berry]

Has one extra turn that’ll be rendered useless by anticipation or simply missing the Metal weakness on hardened, tough, etc

Kawthor is an attacker too

[fiery tapir]

i didnt say extra turner where are u pulling that out of?

any mythic can be run as an attacker

[little berry]

You telling me I’m gonna run him as a tank when all he has to protect his allies is a self taunt skill?

[fiery tapir]

why are people running erder as a tank when she has damage skills?

she is attacker by ur logic

[little berry]

Cause she has taunt trait

Automatic taunt plus harder to remove, far different from needing a turn first to protect your allies

[fiery tapir]

area dodge

he can live longer as well

[little berry]

And?

[fiery tapir]

plus ur most likely are gonna have a denier

[austere kestrel]

she has taunt and SC: Damage Protection.

[fiery tapir]

ik that

[austere kestrel]

And more tank skills than either of the taunt mythics so far.

[little berry]

Again durability doesn’t mean tank

[fiery tapir]

taunt = tank?

[little berry]

Yes

[austere kestrel]

have you seen a tank without taunt?

either in skills or in trait?

[fiery tapir]

so if a monster is classified as a tank its not a tank?

[little berry]

Classified by who?

[fiery tapir]

the game

devs

who

else?

[little berry]

SP doesn’t know their game lmao

[austere kestrel]

agreed

[mild heron]

guys i sold my rank 5 armor claw for rank 2 lostyghost. i think i made a very good decision because lostyghost looks so cool

[austere kestrel]

armor is classified as a tank and people use it as an attacker lol

he has only 2 skills that are fit for a tank

[fiery tapir]

3

[austere kestrel]

did I stutter?

[fiery tapir]

3

[mild heron]

2

[fiery tapir]

did i stutter

[mild heron]

guys i sold my rank 5 armor claw for rank 2 lostyghost. i think i made a very good decision because lostyghost looks so cool

[austere kestrel]

stop spamming that

[fiery tapir]

monster review pursue ur dreams and the other skill

3

[austere kestrel]

that nobody uses

[fiery tapir]

nobody uses skill mirror woah

i do woah

and most people ive seen who use armor claw do so too

[austere kestrel]

whoah, he has skill mirror

so op, man, he's clearly a tank

[fiery tapir]

skill mirror is good tho wdym

gaidigo is a tank :)

[fickle acorn]

What

[fiery tapir]

yes

[austere kestrel]

oh, you know

the CDA user

the clear denier

yup

[little berry]

Skill mirror is more a support effect than for tanks

[austere kestrel]

clearly a tank

[fiery tapir]

nope nope pure tank

[austere kestrel]

finally, smaug adressed the elephant in the room

[fickle acorn]

I could maybe see your argument for Armor being a Tank

[little berry]

Since it doesn’t actually do anything to protect your allies

[austere kestrel]

yep

[fickle acorn]

But you're just crazy if you say Gaidigo is one lol

[fiery tapir]

its sarcasm

😳

[austere kestrel]

sure

whatever floats your boat

[fiery tapir]

legit couldnt u see its sarcasm?

[austere kestrel]

anyways, if you want a tank, you use Erder.

[fiery tapir]

tayni is an attacker btw

[austere kestrel]

Armor does better as a tanky attacker, just like Kawthor

[fiery tapir]

unspeakable is a support

zorky is op attacker

[mild heron]

and tank

[fiery tapir]

yes

man this isnt sarcasm btw cause it floats my boat

👉 👈 😳

[mild heron]

yoroi is also op

[fiery tapir]

whatever floats your boat
@austere kestrel

[mild heron]

amazing attacker and tank he's better than zorky

quaxalacroc is also good

[fiery tapir]

as a support ofc

[mild heron]

yoroi is not a support lol

[fiery tapir]

runes on quaxalacroc

[mild heron]

ye

no

[fiery tapir]

yoroi is a denier

[mild heron]

one mutated strength rune for quaxalacros

[austere kestrel]

don't ping me

[fiery tapir]

tayni is an attacker

[mild heron]

for yoroi

tayni is a support

[austere kestrel]

team 👏 strenght 👏

[fiery tapir]

nope its an attacker

[mild heron]

how so ?

[fiery tapir]

^ for kawthor

very op

[mild heron]

are those gold runes?

[fiery tapir]

no their life runes

[mild heron]

oh

i thought they were green

[austere kestrel]

xum, they're salty cuz they said something and nobody took them not seriously

[fiery tapir]

ofc not their red

[mild heron]

bruh stop trolling

tayni is clearly a support

[little berry]

Weird way to handle losing an argument

:KEKWGA:

[fiery tapir]

no im just NOT being sarcastic

[ebon merlin]

no kawthor :

[fiery tapir]

ur right

full stamina

[mild heron]

but listen fr tho i sold my rank 5 armor claw for 10k gold! at this rate imma be so rich 😋

[ebon merlin]

👍

[fiery tapir]

worth it ngl

[mild heron]

fr ik right

[fiery tapir]

even getting 2 gold is hard

[ebon merlin]

[mild heron]

kawthor

[fiery tapir]

and they make the free chest cost 500 gold!

[mild heron]

yes ik right i can buy so many with 10k !!!

[fiery tapir]

mhm

ur so rich

[ebon merlin]

kawthor :

[mild heron]

ik but i dont like to brag much

no kawthor is 2 strenght one speed

[fiery tapir]

hayman with op

[mild heron]

nah primigius is stronger in my opinion

[fiery tapir]

no no our god hayman is op

[ebon merlin]

hayman > hayman

[fiery tapir]

yes

like have u fought a hayman?

its just op

[mild heron]

primigius with

unbeatable

[ebon merlin]

i fought a hayman once

[mild heron]

aw shoot man and you're still alive??

i thought no one has ever lived to tell the tale

[ebon merlin]

i abandoned my mythics to escape

[fiery tapir]

i hope i get a hayman out of the monsterwood chest

i would be op

[ebon merlin]

[fiery tapir]

whats the strongest magic monster apart from genie

[mild heron]

not sure there are any is any

umm lemme think

[ebon merlin]

a hayman

[mild heron]

besides hayman

we already know he

hes unbeatable

[fiery tapir]

yeah

hayman is every element and rarity

[austere kestrel]

I think you should quit with the memeing already

or mods gonna bean ya

[mild heron]

yep. the one war master ragnarok couldn't get an attack from was hayman

[ebon merlin]

whats the strongest magic monster apart from genie

[fiery tapir]

weak

[mild heron]

ok but fr tho which team out these choices are the best as my main attack team. Armor claw, Tayni rank1, devastress, rociuko, sir automatronics rank 1, osteoclast

[ebon merlin]

armor, tayni and rociuko

[fiery tapir]

^

tayni with hurting hand new wave sweet juice and waspers way

swarm rush is bad

[mild heron]

no

swarm rush good

if you have good attackers

also other ppl are saying i should do devastress?

devastress has a buncha pierce moves. would be good against monsters that have sheild

[ebon merlin]

rociuko has pierce and tayni has per

[lunar badge]

Someone told me to come here to see the heroic dungean rotations

[scenic wyvern]

Is xiron the ruby good un ranked?

[austere kestrel]

she's better ranked

she's not bad unranked, but she's certainly better ranked.

[broken cove]

Every monster is better ranked

[little berry]

Behold a fully evolved Blob

Now I need a good skillset

[austere kestrel]

you won't get the full moveset till level 35 though lol

[mild heron]

lol

is blob good?

[austere kestrel]

he's OK if you're low-leveled and unable to get legendaries besides breedable ones.

[serene meteor]

[little berry]

What she can do

[dreamy sail]

she can do aoe controll

@little berry

[little berry]

Cool

[tardy rain]

Does anyone know when the elite chest will come back I’m close to getting it I need 3 more

[long rock]

Is frostwrath better than noctum?

[dreamy sail]

i think so

[steep wind]

yes

[bronze dune]

Should i buy the nemesis chest, or should i pay 80 for 50 cells?

[tardy rain]

Buy the nemesis chest

[dreamy sail]

if you want something specific then get cells, if you dont care then get the chest

[bronze dune]

Bad?

[bitter wedge]

He has his use

The weakest Sammy but a Sammy nonetheless

[dreamy sail]

sammy plauge carrier is better

[bitter wedge]

Yeah let me just bust out Plague Carrier out the chest, not like he isn't guaranteed to always be the one I get

[dreamy sail]

ik but just saying

[bronze dune]

I was hoping for xiron the ruby

[bitter wedge]

We can all hope for the best but there's only so much that can do

[wild galleon]

Hey does anyone know when the next monster wood cell giveaway is

[steep wind]

No

[crisp lantern]

When will the next 72hr challenge coming?

[gentle trellis]

when the currrent one ends

[idle nacelle]

It already ended

[pliant sonnet]

Which nemsis chest should I get? 1, 2, or 3?

[little berry]

1 imo

[dense lintel]

Imma go with kronx I think

[little berry]

Yes

[dawn spade]

what would be the recommended skillset for iMigbo?

[vernal sapphire]

Ive got a question

Will forsaken monsters ever come back?

[wide lintel]

No

[little berry]

Not much reason for them to anymore

[austere kestrel]

Nope.

At least, not until SP is desperate enough to grab players back

[thick silo]

Not soon

[wide lintel]

I finnaly got ragnarok!

But I have to wait for Sammy to finish crafting because I ain’t wasting 25 gems

[median valve]

Best movesets and runes for unspeakable?

[little berry]

10 million degrees, Unbreakable, Extreme quicksand challenge and Hide & Seek or Lucky chest opening

[harsh pebble]

Best moveset for any monsters is to be as flexible as possible. Having fixed/similar movesets makes your monster predictable and easy to counter

[wide lintel]

Flexible?

[harsh pebble]

Change moveset is free. Exp - grakon has few aoe stun according to different scenarioz u need to change according to war scenario

[wide lintel]

I don’t understand in the slightest but all I know is to listen to someone that has a different role then everyone

[harsh pebble]

Best is to test your monster in risk free dungeons. Understand their skills then will know which skills are useful

[wide lintel]

If you realised yet everyone usually uses the exact same moves because if you chose something else you don’t know if your on the receiving end

[harsh pebble]

Maybe will wyrmlad/ ragnarok as example. They have mutiple good skills. U may check the top teams. Not all users have same skill and it does not mean you will lose out on a weaker skill. Your sucess depends on how u pair the allies

[idle magnet]

Who got race monster

[white turret]

me

[raw escarp]

Is it worth it?

65 elementuim and 55 water cells

@little berry I don't know why I tagged you other then asking your opinion

[little berry]

Nope don't waste it on him

If i were you I'd save it for eisul or frazerot

[spiral raptor]

I'm new to grand duels and I just started one, i think that i should pick samael but since I'm new idk the meta in grand duels. Any opinions?

[mild heron]

which is the strongest sammy

[spiral raptor]

So i should get sammy?

[broken cove]

Roci

[little berry]

Who should i hatch

[fiery skiff]

None

[broken cove]

All of em

For gold slaves

[thick silo]

Hatch any dark monster

[broken cove]

For breeding

[thick silo]

For the breeding event

@soft schooner congratulations can you show us your team

[little berry]

Whats the event called

[soft schooner]

balor full speed, atum 2 life ts, burotgor 3 strength

needed to do the battle about 20 times 😦

[thick silo]

Oh

Good job

[little berry]

@thick silo what's the breeding event called

[soft schooner]

el colossal

[thick silo]

Yes that's it

[primal saffron]

@little berry in my opinion you should hatch frostwrath ⭐

[little berry]

Dark collosal is next so hatch all dark monsters rather than wasting gems trying to breed them.

[stoic island]

Which one ?

Ugluk?

[little berry]

Ugluk or maybe Devastress

[glossy gate]

Is imigbo attack or support?

[broken cove]

Both

[gusty cypress]

Guys should I go for son cookie or imigbo?????

[shadow anchor]

Migbo all the way @gusty cypress

[gusty cypress]

Ok 👍

[proper slate]

Was magicweek already?

[broken cove]

No

Coming up

[long rock]

is iMigbo good?

[broken cove]

Ye

[proven fossil]

is grakon worth it to rank him up?

[quaint egret]

If u want to

[proven fossil]

for warmaster zahra dungeon

[thick silo]

Garkon worth ranking

[broken cove]

Yes

[little berry]

Garkon

[raw escarp]

Who is better

[austere kestrel]

none

[raw escarp]

Gonna go for warmaster ragnorok

Which is better though

[austere kestrel]

i'd say plymouth for nature weakness and better offensive prowess overall.

Gullin does less in comparison, with only a team heal and mostly self-positive effects.

[inner meteor]

SP ever gonna let players obtain more Forsaken monster cells or it is completely gone

[austere kestrel]

keep wishing

mythics is their new money bag, so they're not bothering with anything else

[delicate hatch]

Cries in akeneobuki

[austere kestrel]

Akuno is an elite though.

[little berry]

What monster can deactivate cooldowns?

[primal vapor]

armour claw can do it on itself...

i forgot

lol

[little berry]

Is this a good move set?

[ornate quest]

I think so

The 50% damage one can do INSANE damage after fluid slam

And the 100% stamina drain one is basically required

[austere kestrel]

I would take out fluid slam since blob isn't an attacker. I would keep it to stamina removal and stamina leak/drain etc.

[ornate quest]

Blob is 100% an attacker

[austere kestrel]

He is not

[ornate quest]

Yes he is?

[austere kestrel]

he's a stamina remover, through and through

[ornate quest]

Inheritor has a bunch of possesion moves, does that make him a control monster?

[austere kestrel]

no, he's an attacker with tortures

[ornate quest]

Ixofex does too

So just because blob removes stamina, doesnt mean his only thing is control/denial

[austere kestrel]

you're trying very hard to twist my words.
Blob works better to remove stamina from the enemy team to enable other attackers. Hence, he doesn't work as an attacker.

I mean, you can, but why would you.

[ornate quest]

Because thats his use? He's an attacker that messes with stamina

[austere kestrel]

clank, as for the moveset, I'd reccomend:
Liquid Slaps
Liquid Shards
Wet Shards/Liquid Stroke
Fluid Smash.
That ought to be the best moveset for removing stamina

[ornate quest]

Yeah, but he can be a very good attcker too

[austere kestrel]

sissy boi, have you checked Blob's base stats? He's supossed to be a curser with stamina drain

he's super outclassed as an attacker

even among breedable monsters, you're fine looking elsewhere for an attacker

like, I dunno... Shallinar or Will Razor Face

Or Stinger S1 from the roulettes, which work wonders as the best f2p attacker

[ornate quest]

But his moves do a bunch of damage

[austere kestrel]

with "amazing damage" you most likely mean 55 damage tops

shallinar has fire weakness to rain pain, stinger has tortures and metal weakness and Will has tortures and life steal

there's no reason to use Blob as an attacker

[ornate quest]

Okay fine

[long rock]

Is he attacker?

[austere kestrel]

he's an attacker with tortures and a buffing move, yeah

he has terrible life, don't put life runes onnit lol

I reccomend either

or

[long rock]

thanks

[upper aurora]

@austere kestrel this is like the fifth time you've gotten in a fight with someone over blob's role

[austere kestrel]

first of, don't ping me

and no

this is the first time I had to debate someone that Blob is an attacker

last time it was someone who was advising someone not to get Blob despite them being low leveled players with no legends

[upper aurora]

5/6/2020: You fought with Akshay over blob's use. ClAnk already had blob. Akshay said that he was an attacker and you disagreed.

[austere kestrel]

No?

[upper aurora]

bro scroll up

it's so easy to prove

[austere kestrel]

also, why are you tailing me?

[ornate quest]

I was gonna ask something but i dont wanna intrude

[austere kestrel]

no, go ahead

what do you need?

[upper aurora]

also, why are you tailing me?
@austere kestrel don't flatter yourself. I'm just pointing out a pattern

[austere kestrel]

don't ping me

and leave me alone

I don't care about whatever you're claiming

[upper aurora]

it was literally a funny pattern

[austere kestrel]

you're blocking the chat for players wanting to ask questions over this

if you wanna keep bothering me, open my dms

[upper aurora]

it's only your fragile ego that's making it seem like you're being bothered

[austere kestrel]

pffffffffff

[fiery skiff]

@ornate quest go ahead and ask

[austere kestrel]

yeah, go ahead

[ornate quest]

If i were to buy something, should i get one of the cell packs for hookuai or try my chance at getting 100 gelotron cells? (I need a good attacker and this feels like the perfect time)

[fiery skiff]

Neither

Do maze and get mythics

And tale

But rip gems

[austere kestrel]

if you have the money, go ahead, but I'd advise you otherwise.

[ornate quest]

I literally have 14 gems haha

Thanks!

[austere kestrel]

np

[fiery skiff]

U can still do maze

[ornate quest]

How would i get the main guy in the currsnt maze without spending money?

Just curious since its early in the maze

[austere kestrel]

save up maze coins and move only on discounts

do main path for more rewards. go up to where you get the key for getting the main event monster quicker.

[ornate quest]

Okie

[austere kestrel]

once you finish with the main monster, you can go and try to get more cells from the event monster or get the other monsters

[ornate quest]

Okie

I'd go for mountezuma on my main and koarim on my baby account

After going for the mythic on my main obv

[austere kestrel]

Mountezuma is good for an old legendary

has a few good things, but otherwise, outdated

even so, should be a nice grab after getting the mythic

if you're able to get him

[mild blaze]

What monster is a good third ally on a team with Armor Claw + Wyrmlad?

[austere kestrel]

another area dodger

[mild blaze]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking but my only other area dodger is Helgudin and I feel like she woulldn't be a good fit on that team

[austere kestrel]

she would, actually

[mild blaze]

Really?

[austere kestrel]

as long as you keep Armor Claw on defense, any combo of area dodgers is fine.

[mild blaze]

Cool

[austere kestrel]

would be better if you used others, but it should still work.

[mild blaze]

So it would be be Armor Claw as a tank, Helgudin as attacker, and Wyrmlad as Attacker + Support?

[austere kestrel]

with wyrmlad as an attack support healing both and armor tanking, helgudin should be pretty well positioned to attack with dark weakness and then sweep swiftly

yes

[mild blaze]

Okay, awesome

Thanks!

[austere kestrel]

np

[fresh garnet]

Alright, small question;
do i need a certain amount of cells for Grakon to use nature cells

or can i just rank him with entirely nature cells

[little berry]

Well in order to craft a monster ( More specifically any monster from Common to Legendary) Requires you to have 85 cells of that monster before you can fill the whole thing with other types of cells but when it comes to ranking you can use the other cells entirely

So yeah you can rank him with entirely Nature Cells

[fresh garnet]

Good.

so, that means clearing a large swath of the nature WM dungeon would be beneficial.

[little berry]

Well in order to craft a monster ( More specifically any monster from Common to Legendary) Requires you to have 85 cells of that monster before you can fill the whole thing with other types of cells but when it comes to ranking you can use the other cells entirely
Actually it's 80 cells of the monsters.

[quasi spear]

should i keep rociuko on my team or switch her for dr wattz once i get him?

[steep wind]

Swap your attacker for Dr Wattz

[little berry]

Hey Akshay, thanks for the correction but that wasn’t the thing that I was trying to point out

I see your point mate.

Is this a good move set for Tayni?

I don’t know how to use Swarm Rush effectively

You can swap skills if a specific set doesn't work.

[solar flame]

@little berry yes I use that moveset as well and it works well. If you need a bit of support run new wave, but imao you dont need swarm rush.

[rugged warren]

I forgot he had swarm rush

Bruh

[little berry]

How good is Lord Moltus?

[prime notch]

Not good

He is ok but not the best

He has very high cooldowns and his trait is Immune to burning and his speed and strength arent great nor is his life

[little berry]

Ah

No clue who this dude is

[rugged warren]

What lvl are u

Overall he ain't to bad

This skill made him real good back in the day

[nocturne nimbus]

that's pretty good

[nocturne nimbus]

seems like a decent monster

[rugged warren]

Yeh

[little berry]

I’m level 35 rn

[rugged warren]

Just cooldowns on a bit of a higher end but not to bad either

His underboss' skill is guaranteed haste btw

[little berry]

Nice

[rugged warren]

Could've been a lot worse tbh

He's not to bad

[nocturne nimbus]

imagine this were a mythic

[little berry]

Good thing I spent 20 days for a single chest

[toxic totem]

I got nebotus

💩

[little berry]

Oof

[nocturne nimbus]

rip

[toxic totem]

Jup

[ornate quest]

Which is better as offensive support, rociuko or tayni?

Or just support in general

[rugged warren]

Rociuko

Skillswise & Trait wise Roci

[quasi spear]

is it bad to use tayni offensesively?

[ornate quest]

Well, his moveset seems to revolve around being offensive by crippling the enemy team with positive effects blocked, poison and other stuff i dont know of yet because my team dies too fast

[stoic island]

Which one?

[quasi spear]

kronx is hella annoying to deal with so maybe that?

[stoic island]

niceu 👍

[ornate quest]

#live-duels

I think

Just for the future

[quasi spear]

i use tayni offensively and does much better than my armor claw somehow

[ornate quest]

Nice

Armor claw is more of a tank i believe

[quasi spear]

but isnt at the same time hes a pretty good attacker?

[ornate quest]

Probably

Tayni can be extremely strong, positive effects blocked can be disgustingly effective, especially against monsters that have a lot of positive effects like or taunt or regen

[quasi spear]

regen is hella annoying when it comes to tanks

[ornate quest]

Yeah, he also inflicts poison so he can be really good at fighting tanks

[quasi spear]

he also inflicts daze if im not wrong?

[ornate quest]

Probs

That can be good against attackers too

Defensive Support is completely walled by him too

[quasi spear]

oh

but in some ways, even if you use him differently hes still good?

[ornate quest]

Probs, he is a mythic

But his main role is offensive support

[quasi spear]

i see

well i learned some bit of stuff

thank you very much

[ornate quest]

Yw

[quasi spear]

oh cuck but im not sure if i should keep rociuko to my team or replace her with dr wattz once i get him

[ornate quest]

Rociuko is good too

She has pierce so she ignores things like megataunt and positive effects protected

[quasi spear]

so would my team still do good with either?

[ornate quest]

Yea

Also i found out tayni has an aoe accuracy boost

[quasi spear]

oh yeah that skill

[austere kestrel]

Rociuko's traits are what make her more worth it in comparison, since her pierce ignores megataunt and she can spam PER and curses/tortures on the enemy team.

[quasi spear]

i've seen her on pvp teams more recently

[ornate quest]

So they could work toghether, tayni boosts rociuko with his good speed, she applies 3 different torture efffects on the enemy team, and tayni can block positive effects on the whole team

[austere kestrel]

Tayni's main positive is Trait Disable and PER/NER, but in traits, he loses big time. He still has the bloated stats and the higher level cap, so there's that.

[ornate quest]

Yeah

Honestly its your choice

Also roci only has pierce at rank 0, which is where most people will have her at, no immunities or chances to dodge negitive status effects, so theres that

Tayni may not have pierce, but he has hardened, so he has a higher chance of dodging those effects

[austere kestrel]

Tbh, comparing both's traits is kinda unfair.

Cuz having Hardened doesn't mean that much tbh.

[ornate quest]

Yeah, but its something

A chance of immunity is better than zero immunity

[austere kestrel]

Tayni has Inmune to Freeze and Roci has Inmune to Control., which also blocks stuns and possessions.

[ornate quest]

Oh

[austere kestrel]

Like, it's not fair comparing their traits.

[ornate quest]

Im just talking rank0

[austere kestrel]

Oh, R0.

I was talking in general.

[ornate quest]

I didnt know she has immune to control

[austere kestrel]

Yeah, at R3.

She gains Anticipation at R1 and then Inmune to Control at R3.

[ornate quest]

So yeah, her traits are obv better than tayni's, but only when ranked up

[austere kestrel]

I mean, at base too.

[ornate quest]

Tayni has a fighting chance at rank0 in traits imo

[austere kestrel]

Besides what I said, what Tayni has over Roci is trait disable.

Which, honestly, is it's biggest sale point.

[ornate quest]

Yeah, and block positive effects on top of that

[austere kestrel]

Tayni is currently the most viable and fastest trait disable monster

Roci can also be used as a torturer, and since she has pierce, she can apply dots right below megataunters noses.

[ornate quest]

Nice

Honestly they could work toghether

With either a control monster or an attacker

They deal good damage with their torture effects so control might be better

[quasi spear]

would it be a bad idea to replace tayni with dr wattz or?

[ornate quest]

Only if you dont already have a good attacker on your team, or if roci is ranked up/better in your opinion

[quasi spear]

i see

ill just see how it goes with rociuko then

[valid jackal]

What does it mean when it says a monster is unknown in battle

[steep wind]

I assume you're talking about the Multiplayer battles

[valid jackal]

Ye

[steep wind]

If so then that's normal

[wide lintel]

Player targeting is why George

[valid jackal]

What does it mean tho sometimes they are random even though it’s like the 1st monster u get

Wdym player targeting

[wide lintel]

The names of the monsters and players would show making it easy for people to regonise the opponent and target them

[valid jackal]

Oh ok

Thx

[ornate quest]

Ohhhh

I thought that was just a glitch or that person hasnt been playing for a long time

[dawn spade]

Yay?

[drifting garnet]

Nice

[tardy rain]

Does anyone know when the elite chest will come out again?

[steep wind]

When the next Elite Days happen

[azure thunder]

Good?

[steep wind]

Let's just say... could've been Nebotus

[rugged warren]

He's not the worst

Has a bunch of aoe moves & self support with decent damage output

[misty quarry]

Which warmaster should I go for? Warmaster Barbael or the light warmaster?

[wide lintel]

Elvira

Barbael is useless compared to Elvira

[misty quarry]

Is it because of her trait?

[wide lintel]

Yep

[misty quarry]

Oh btw how many heroic orbs do you need to get 100 warmaster cells?

[wide lintel]

Something I don’t have the table sadly

[full pine]

2400

I got one literally today

I had like 2500 around there

Then had 100 left

[rugged warren]

Which warmaster should I go for? Warmaster Barbael or the light warmaster?
Can't u go for any other ones?

[thick silo]

If you can't go for Rag or thalassa definitely go for elvira

[little berry]

Is it possible to get one of those from the chest?

[steep wind]

Maybe, but it's probably super rare

[little berry]

Tayni or roci

[onyx leaf]

What is the name of this monster?

[little berry]

No clue

[little berry]

That monster will be available next maze probably, just like Erder and Unspeakable....

But it's not confirmed or anything, just assuming

[austere kestrel]

Probably.

He reminds me of a Digimon.

[viscid sonnet]

Anyone knows when the 30% discount is coming in maze😅😅

[bold parrot]

When this week are nemesis days are next week elite days?

[little berry]

Recommended moveset for rociuko, devastress, tayni and imigbo?

[drowsy stream]

A lego dude

[austere kestrel]

for iMigbo:
Poshos todos
Te saludo y te bendigo
AUREEEEELIO
A por ellos jopus!

The idea is to run it as an attacker with some speed to make use of his possession skill and AOE team NER, stamina regeneration precision and damage boost

[little berry]

So...who you're calling two hard enemies?

[long nimbus]

@little berrynot that hard, mytich monsters will destroy them

[little berry]

Kawthor maybe
Wait, is he an anti-thalassa?

[austere kestrel]

Who?

Kawthor?

[little berry]

Yes

[austere kestrel]

I mean, any mythic at R5 can beat legendaries, but if you mean like, on equal footing

I guess.

thalassa does get TD eventually, so it could just TD Kawthor and just freeze it.

counting on it not being as fast as her and both being the same level.

[little berry]

Ok

Cuz I tought that made a the good counter to her.

[austere kestrel]

Crabbydroid is the best literal counter to it, but, uh...

Y'know.

Gorg can also try and stop her from using her extra turn moves by shocking her. Anticipation also works well with her.

[little berry]

Yus

[drowsy stream]

Mythics might be beasts but wyrmlad can keep up with the best of em heck he alone can take a couple of em on by himself

[austere kestrel]

not true

[drowsy stream]

True

[austere kestrel]

though it's true that area dodgers are good to counter mythics

they have a hard time with them

it's the only reason Helgudin rose as an attacker rn

when she was much more lower

[drowsy stream]

They just battle 4ever

Idk how but bout 4th or 5th turn he creates a hit that kills

She

I love my mythics but she’s there backup

[broken cove]

Any Attacker Mythic can 1 or 2 shot wyrmlad

Executions for RAra since she’s extra turner

[warm copper]

[broken cove]

Exeptions

[little berry]

duh there legendary dark monster but getting is like 1 outta how many dark legendarys there are

[mint widget]

At what rank does rag unlock the res skill

[little berry]

Who should i pick for my attack team 🤔

[steep wind]

Roci, Devastress and Armor

[mint orbit]

I like how You can use kawthor's "friends are strength" against monsters that are immune to instant death so you can get the damage buff and keep your ally.

[rugged warren]

Evasion works too

I wonder if phobic shields work. Probably does

[mint orbit]

I don't think so

[rugged warren]

Phobic shields don't work lol

[molten perch]

So that means that skill will work good with new progressive island monster?

[mint orbit]

I ranked up my skeel for him

[rugged warren]

Why?

For legend ranking or something?

[rugged warren]

Aoe double stun
Single Mega stun
Aoe stamina removal
Free to choose

[rugged warren]

Anytime.

[little berry]

How many heroic orbs needed for rank 1?

[civic warren]

When does the limited pathway from quaxalcroc come out?

[quasi spear]

rociuko skills?

When does the limited pathway from quaxalcroc come out?
@civic warren its mostly when theres 4 days less, but im not too sure

[lyric owl]

In about 50 mins

[onyx leaf]

Ummm

[tall depot]

yeee

[green flame]

ONE MORE!!!!!!!??????!!!!!!!

God.....

[soft schooner]

why do you get him?

gold slave?

[green flame]

Idk

My two Legends so far are Tephra and frostwrath

Gtg

[tall depot]

this monster is FIRE

[steep wind]

Yes

[bitter wedge]

No, it's water

[tall depot]

10 more days of mythic amber and he will be r2

this is Hookuai of mythics

[bitter wedge]

K

[tall depot]

he has 0 stamina 0 cooldown skill

i love Kawthor

[steep wind]

He doesn't have the traits of Hookuai though

[tall depot]

well yes but he has some good traits

[bitter wedge]

You don't even have him runed right

[tall depot]

lol you can rune him multiple ways

he is a tank

so

[bitter wedge]

He's an attacker actually

[tall depot]

he is BOTH

[bitter wedge]

Having sustain does not equal tank

[steep wind]

Having Taunt also doesn't equal tank

[bitter wedge]

For a skill

[tall depot]

he has regen and skill mirror

thats a pure tank

[bitter wedge]

Does not equal tank

Wyrmlad has skill Mirror + Damage Reduction, you don't see him get called a tank now

[tall depot]

oooooooofffff

Kawthor is attacker and tank

[bitter wedge]

For the final time, he is not a tank

He is not part tank

He's an attacker

You can Rune him as a tank but that doesn't make him a tank

[steep wind]

Try using Kawthor as a tank, and he'll be rubbish at it

[tall depot]

i tried

and it works really well

i use him as both attacker and tank

[steep wind]

Clearly you haven't encountered PER

[bitter wedge]

Or faced actual threatening PvP teams

[tall depot]

bruh

[steep wind]

I'll assume you haven't then

[tall depot]

in Kawthor's description it says " tank and attacker with healling skills"

not gonna argue any more

[steep wind]

That's just his description though

He's a pure attacker and that's that

[austere kestrel]

ML doesn't know their own monsters.

Healing yourself and applying regeneration does not a tank make.

you need actual tank stuff, like, I dunno... Taunt or Megataunt.
Some kind of shield that nullifies any element except yours.
Some kind of torture or stamina removal related abilities...
Yunno, the kind of thing that just screams: "I will withstand hits for the sake of my team."

Kawthor has an ability to sacrifice an ally for triple damage.
That tells you how much of a tank he is.

[tall depot]

he has a lot of healing skills

most of the attackers doesnt have healing skills

[austere kestrel]

he is still very susceptible to deny though.

Or at least to CDA and Stun.

Lacks megataunt and NER ruins his regeneration.

Reverse healing also kinda kills him fast, but nobody uses it.

And to use it, you'd have to use Morgz as a niche monster to kill Kawthor teams

And that is just... That sounds wrong.

[ripe acorn]

R2 warthak ms moveset?

[proud tree]

Is worth 270 gems for positron?

[little berry]

No

[proud tree]

Ok thx

[tall depot]

Positron is a good legendary, but with 270 you can get Illion

[austere kestrel]

Never buy legendaries with gems.

But yeah, Positron is a very good monster. Just don't buy it.

[tall depot]

is this a level up offer or what

[vale pier]

will limited time path have any other dicount or maze coin dungeon?

[steep wind]

maybe another discount

[vale pier]

ok thx

[little berry]

Wow! This guy...

[steep wind]

Supposedly rules Hell, has many MANY monsters that are better than him

[little berry]

Yes, but he was very useful in the past.

Do you think I should add strength or only for gold production?

[steep wind]

Gold

[little berry]

OK thx.
Cool.

[tough ravine]

hey anybody here?

[steep wind]

yes

[tough ravine]

can you anwser my question is this the right channel to do it?

[mint widget]

Ask your question

[tough ravine]

Alright then so in short i need to know what attack team and defense team i can make from these monsters

[steep wind]

Hyperia, Nitroblaster and Silverleaf for one team

Your other 100's for the other

[mint widget]

I was gonna say the same

[steep wind]

or use a weak defence team

[tough ravine]

any of em?

ok

[fresh garnet]

Hey, is uh..
Is Quaxalcroc actually stronger then Armorclaw?

Like, just his raw attack strength?

[austere kestrel]

No

Armor has a better base attack and life stat than Croc.

Croc is faster and has the better traits to serve as an attacker

[fresh garnet]

how

[steep wind]

Croc can be Immune to Control

[fresh garnet]

So, would getting r3 Croc, loading him up with whatever runeset would be good on my attack

[little berry]

I like 🧀

[steep wind]

Yeah, but Rank 1 also works good

[fresh garnet]

my team is:
Kihaku
Miserus ( 7, 9, 7 )

what runes would go good on quaxalcroc with those team members

[steep wind]

[austere kestrel]

he already has Miserus on TS duty

I would put one more strength on him.

[fresh garnet]

So,

[austere kestrel]

[fresh garnet]

why that, though?

isn't his damage from status effects?

[steep wind]

Shouldn't be his primary source of damage

[fresh garnet]

Okay.

so, same as armorclaw

but, i have a concern.

lets test the speed difference of with armor's ts

and without, to see if he should have a ts or not

[little berry]

[fresh garnet]

i don't have super mutant runes.

[steep wind]

No

[little berry]

[steep wind]

Ignore the Super Mutant Rune suggestions

[fresh garnet]

i have to

i literally don't have a single super rune

[old swan]

Yay

[steep wind]

He's good, even at Rank 0

[snow finch]

gorg or wyrmlad?

[steep wind]

Wyrmlad

[lofty pebble]

Looking to beat Ragnarok dungeon floor 2 (earth r1). For tank, should I use koralle brutalis or hyperia?

[steep wind]

Hyperia

[mellow skiff]

Grakon or Ugluk? (I know one is denier and one is attacker.) Ugluk i need for Ragnork’s dungeon and Grakon for one of my future deniers

[little berry]

Ugluk, because he kills taunt users and he has a 0 CD and stamina skill, so he's okay versus controllers.

[mellow skiff]

Thats what i was thinking but many players also say grakon since he can do a lot of dots... :/

Thanks for that, but i actaully might go with grakon now that i think about it more and how grakon can counter others

[little berry]

Welp, Grakon is better Only if you've them ranked.

[mellow skiff]

I’m able to get him to rank 1 at least

[little berry]

cool, but Ugluk still good.

Grakon has only that TD+Stun skill to get them

[austere kestrel]

if we're talking in same grounds (R5) Grakon ALL THE WAY

Ugluk is cool and all, but in this mythic era he has lost most relevance to Mythic attackers.

I guess Ugluk can still be used to counter the area dodge teams that are still plaguing PVP, but Grakon's trait and skills are much better rn.

[little berry]

Oh yup, I forgot that Grakon has dodge area lol.

[shadow anchor]

The thing that keeps ugluk relevant is that he’s a tank killer

Taunt hater and percentage attacks are pretty nasty when used correctly

[manic pier]

Tayni is handy vs the Dodge area + taunt combo

[glossy gate]

When I had just started the game I remember treasure caves but I can’t remember what they did.. anyone remember? I’m very curious what I’m missing out on now😂

[mint widget]

I remember them
They were removed

[ornate oak]

Treasure Caves simply put were daily prizes. You flipped 1 out of 4 possible doors to get a prize hoping to not hit the trap. You hit the trap, you loss all the rewards up to that point. You had the option to continue by paying a lump-sum of gems. The end reward was like a maxed out Nemesis or Legendary.

[little berry]

can someone help me with somethinfg

[steep wind]

Maybe

[little berry]

okay

os

so

you know the deals in the monster lab

like 85 gems for 25 cells

does the gem price go up?

[ornate oak]

It goes down.

[little berry]

but i though it stays the same?

[ornate oak]

Those deals go down. I wouldn’t go for it, unless you absolutely need the monsters or it’ll only cost a few gems to craft or rank it.

It will cost you a bunch of gems, still.

[little berry]

is makugan for 340 gems worth it?

[ornate oak]

Just to craft? No.

[little berry]

is anyone actually worth it?, or should i save up for somthing else

[steep wind]

Save up

[ornate oak]

I’d personally save.

[little berry]

k

thanks

[ornate oak]

👍

[stark ingot]

Are these worth ranking up?

[bitter wedge]

You already are so

That kinda defeats the purpose of asking

[steep wind]

That's a LOT of gems wasted on ranking up some legendaries...

[stark ingot]

Costed me 50 or so gems

[slow gull]

@stark ingot. How did u get that many cells of piercied?

[little berry]

That's a LOT of gems wasted on ranking up some legendaries...
It could be race prep

[steep wind]

Very in advance for later laps race prep then

[little berry]

It doesn't matter when he does it because the first slot is free

[stark ingot]

@slow gull i extract dark epics for dark cells and voila

[hybrid dirge]

Sorry to disturb I did a task in the happy hour and it's been 2 days and a few hours and I still haven't got my gems what would I do about this

[slow gull]

Okay!

Pierceid is pretty awesome

I’ll do the same when I get him.

[ornate oak]

@hybrid dirge You have to go in game back to the Monsterwood, back to the offers and report the issue. Follow all the steps needed. That’s really the only way.

[spring ravine]

150 gorg cells worth 649 gems?

[pseudo cradle]

Speed or TS on Rocioku

[wide lintel]

Depends on its allies

[pseudo cradle]

Helgudin and Armor Claw

[wide lintel]

@spring ravine no save the gems your better off with elite days

[glossy blade]

What skills should I put on iMigbo

[placid elbow]

I did a thing

[crimson marsh]

Move/rune set Samuel the plague?

[bitter wedge]

Pain Scourge
Samael Warrior
Unholy Resurrection
Pestilence / Death Moratorium
or

TS is more standard

Full speed if you want him to act as a Turn Transfer mon

[crimson marsh]

Thnx 🙏🏻

Lol I don’t have those attacks tho

I have him R0

[glossy gate]

Who is the best samael? The fever scatterer, plague carrier, or the other one I can’t remember

[gentle socket]

plague carrier

[glossy gate]

Ok.. he’s probably the best from the dark video master chest then

Is he nemesis?

[gentle socket]

probably

[solar flame]

should I go for helgudin or dragvar in the magic stones chest?

[signal ocean]

Which is good general uria or vanoss?

[solar flame]

uria

but dont waste coins on him

[signal ocean]

Why?

I have vanoss and uria

And the tomato lol

[solar flame]

oh ok

I thought you were gonna buy him lol

[signal ocean]

Lol

I just crafted him with cells

Still hatching tho

Idk

[lyric owl]

Yorio Adventure Chest worth the 350 gems?

[steep wind]

no

[sharp meadow]

omg

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[rugged warren]

Bloody consumption
Indigestion
Eye for an eye
Careless Laceration

[teal birch]

Hi Friends ı have 2 queation...1-when will next elite days start? 2-ı have Wyrmlad and 200 elite tokens, should ı buy which elite monster's cells?

[rugged warren]

Do u have Grakon?

[steep wind]

Elie days should start in 2 weeks, or therabouts

[woven kiln]

rate my monster name

[steep wind]

0/10, absolute garbage