monster-discussion

[wide lintel]

Again with frog

[steep wind]

Kronxian Guard

Extra Turners get destroyed by Anticipation

[wide lintel]

Now it’s time for runes

[steep wind]

Mirak 3 Speed
Nisael 1 Speed 2 Team Speed
Kronxian Guard 2 Strength + 1 Speed or 3 Strength

[wide lintel]

BRUH I got a defeat without even fighting it says UNKNOWN ERROR and I “lost” a fight

[steep wind]

Wow

[wide lintel]

I call rigged

[steep wind]

SP really needs to fix their game

Well hopefully you get a flawless 6 Win after this

[wide lintel]

Here’s to hope

last opponent

I pray rn

YES

I did it!

@steep wind I thank you

[steep wind]

No problem

[wide lintel]

But Jesus Christ SP fix the grand duels

[steep wind]

After losing one battle to some error you deserve that 6 win

Which Souls did you go for?

[wide lintel]

Elite so can I get wyrmlad

[steep wind]

Cool

[wide lintel]

110 elite souls

[steep wind]

I'll be getting Wyrmlad when the time arrives

[wide lintel]

And nemesis souls dang I’m ready for both wyrmlad and Sammy

[steep wind]

Which Samael is the best one?

[wide lintel]

Plague

[steep wind]

Alright

[wide lintel]

But before Sammy I have a ruby coming...

[dawn spade]

Is the earth movie chest worth buying? I mean is there any good earth monster I can get?

[steep wind]

Yes

[dawn spade]

How many?

[steep wind]

The Warthaks, Hiroim, Moutuzema, Baba Yaga, (possibly) Zombic...
and that's about it

[edgy panther]

Is baba yaga good

[steep wind]

Sort of

[wide lintel]

Well if monster are considered in the grand duels and normal duels then yeah I guess so

[austere kestrel]

She's alright for lower levels.

[soft schooner]

Name a good Earth Attacker

[wide lintel]

Warthak mountain splitter

[soft schooner]

and non vip?

[wide lintel]

Earth + earth = weak
Warthak = dark attacks
Non vip - hmmmm, that’s a thought

Burotugor

Extra turns and buffs

[soft schooner]

with the

[spiral knoll]

ye

[wide lintel]

Every monster weakness is non other than

Our God Hayman

[austere kestrel]

Aren't you forgetting the best earth attacker and probably best attacker in the game?

Uuuugluuuuuk... Uuuuuuugluuuuuuuuuk...!

[wide lintel]

Ugluk nah he can die one shot by Hayman

[austere kestrel]

There's also Zombic.

[soft schooner]

hes elite and i'd rather get wyrmlad

[austere kestrel]

He's not... The best, but he's a decent attacker in today's meta.

[soft schooner]

ugluk imean

[wide lintel]

Nothing defeats Hayman

[spiral knoll]

ugluk kills tanks but a fast denier or dark attacker could destroy him

[austere kestrel]

He is still the best attacker in the game.

[outer pawn]

Whats about nisael?

[austere kestrel]

Nisael is good. Has Anticipation, NER and PER in a single move, HP percentage removal moves and resurrections.

I'd say he's better than Sammy, but people would kick me in the shin for saying that.

Although it's true Sammy wields other strengths

[wide lintel]

Yeah well they’re brothers not really that much to differentiate between them

[austere kestrel]

Sammy has a move that brings stat boosts and an extra turn to an ally.

I'd say that is the best trait he has over Nisael.

That and being easier to obtain and rank up.

cries in forsaken

[outer pawn]

So how can i get those Monsters? P2w? Special offers?

[austere kestrel]

Nisael, if you don't have it, you're basically done. I don't think I haven't seen an offer of him going around and you can't either craft him with elementium or elemental nor ask for their cells

Sammy can be gotten from Nemesis days.

You can buy some of their cells individually or get him out of a chest

[spiral knoll]

Here's my team. Tephra (level 55) The warrior (Level 50) and Ralbog (Level 55) Is it good I could also pop in himass in a couple days he would be level 50

[austere kestrel]

I'd say swap Himass with either Ralbog or Tephra.

[spiral knoll]

K

But I have to hatch and feed him first

[round burrow]

know what element will be the el colosal?

[little berry]

No news on that

[bitter wedge]

A lot want to believe its Earth

But it's still up in the air

Just wait

[little berry]

Even if it might be earth, i hope it is not

[bitter wedge]

Not like we can breed any of them to begin with kekw

[spiral knoll]

I hope its fire

[bitter wedge]

Highly unlikely they'll repeat previous elements

[little berry]

Yo

[dawn spade]

Which two of these should I use with timerion?
Time stop, Space time, Looped damage

[bitter wedge]

Why not all 3?

Since those are his main skills

Cooldowns Activate, Time Stop, Space Time, and Looped Damage

Equalizer isn't really that useful

And his AoE Daze isn't really good either

[austere kestrel]

Equalizer is useful only on adventure map

against the bosses

[bitter wedge]

Cooldowns Deactivate isn't a must have

[austere kestrel]

no use using it on anywhere else

[little berry]

@bitter wedge why didn't you apply for mentor bro

[bitter wedge]

My patience shortens fast with new players if they keep asking the same repetitive questions or just keeps being annoying

[little berry]

Oh i see! Me also have that not every time

[bitter wedge]

Yeah it's better I not carry that title, it gives me more freedom to be less restricted to approach their questions

[little berry]

Iam sure others will also help if you are overwhelmed so less burden.

Idk how many have applied but good choice bro

[spiral knoll]

I'll try I'm low level (33) but know some good beginning tips

[little berry]

The only thing i remeber as a beginner are my first legend and epic monster.

Memory issues lol

[bitter wedge]

Get more mons to produce gold, be sure that you can do the Gems, Runes, Elemental cells and Elementium Dungeons, save your gems for important events, always make sure that the mons you're going to spend on will help you in the long run

[little berry]

Hard dungeons especially for new players are very challenging

Get monsters that can carry in each book

As there is a restriction hindering the choice of monsters

[bitter wedge]

Not necessarily complete, just do

Like get far until you literally can't progress then move on to another Dungeon

[spiral knoll]

ye

[little berry]

They will progress untill they get all these resources and spend it wisely

From a selected list of monsters that are worth

Resources

[spiral knoll]

Save your gold upgrade farms for collecting food daily mission use lizard tail food

[austere kestrel]

upgrade your habitats

that's what I'd say is the best advise to gather gold when low level

[little berry]

Why are we saying this lol did anyone ask us?

😂

[spiral knoll]

lol

[bitter wedge]

Speaking of which, try to get at least 3 unique legends from each element, from each book

[spiral knoll]

ye

[austere kestrel]

upgrade your habitats, then try to do the temples so you can complete adventure maps and save up resources

[bitter wedge]

That's one of your priorities

More coverage = more opportunities to use your mons

[little berry]

When i started out i don't remember me running a panda farm

[bitter wedge]

I've had experience with Dragon City so I was quick to know how to get more gold

[little berry]

I did play dc at ine time before coming to ml

[bitter wedge]

I actually did a Pandaken Farm before I even knew it was called a Pandaken Farm

[little berry]

Dc sucks

[bitter wedge]

And from what I remember I tried to do a Dragonian Beast Farm back when his Hatch and Breed time was only a few minutes

[little berry]

I came around talika race i believe

At that time i didn't focus on mahority of commons and uc just trying to breed all epics and collecting them

Then started with legends

We also had a 24h challenge back then. That is where i got my first epic and legend

[short widget]

Anyone rate this

[little berry]

Nice

R3 is where she shines

[austere kestrel]

three rune slots, nice

[little berry]

She gets all her trauts

[short widget]

But is she good

[steep wind]

Yes

[short widget]

Pros and cons

Better than hornet?

[little berry]

She can not be PER ed by hornet

[bitter wedge]

Pros, basically Neobuki at R3
Cons, needs to be R3

[little berry]

Also her mega taunt skill with skill mirror big noice

R3

[bitter wedge]

She cleanses her Skill Mirror tho

[little berry]

And yoseu skill applies double healing and regen

With good dmg

[short widget]

Ahh ill leave her sat there

[short widget]

Cheers guys

[little berry]

Lol

[short widget]

54k health id wipe her in a move lol

[little berry]

With what

[short widget]

Oh gosh many monsters deal more than that

[little berry]

I'd like you to do it. Won't be that easy

[steep wind]

Gaidago with 2 Attack could actually destroy her

[little berry]

Elemental advantage

Besides I've taken a team with wendigo in it he didn't do too well

[steep wind]

But that's because you were fighting a bot

[little berry]

Nah i had a tank to shield of mythics

[short widget]

One v one cain all day

[little berry]

No way

With same runes

Cain won't survive 1 vs 1

[short widget]

But you dont have the same runes

Haha

[little berry]

Lol

How about you come 1vs1 faraday

I don't need a speed

Easy kill

[austere kestrel]

you should take that speed rune lol

[little berry]

Nope

[austere kestrel]

with either another strength or a stamina one

[little berry]

Faraday gets aturn anyway

[austere kestrel]

since he's an extra turner

[little berry]

Hus anti will kick in unless he doesn't run et skills

If you run et skill i don't need a speed

[short widget]

Hulksmuk add me up we will 1vs1

Kafto do you in lol

[bitter wedge]

A Stamina Rune on Cain...i mean he can't cycle his attacks like a proper Extra Turner would but ok

[little berry]

Stamina rune on Cain is a no

Yes definitely

He will be to slow if u put a stamina rune on Cain plus he can’t even cycle like a an actual extra turn attacker like Zyla or Rekka

[steep wind]

Zyla gets destroyed by Sting Westclaw and Rekka gets destroyed by Hookuai

[little berry]

If someone need to run stam i don't recommend use xirons essence lol

[bitter wedge]

Why Xiron's when Uriel's is better kekw

[little berry]

Nah someone said stamina is good on cain

[bitter wedge]

It's only good if you run all 3 of his Extra Turns and his AoE or Evasion

Even then, not really by much

[little berry]

Quick bite soul bite ancestral bite he can chain if he gets any turn

Shadow wanderer is good for evasion

Then he is a sitting duck waiting to be rekt by other monsters

[bitter wedge]

He can only chain for up to 4 turns, then he's completely useless for 1 turn

[little berry]

Sting west claw no one uses him

If you have someone to TD then you don't have to worry about anticipation

The extra turn monsters pair well with madam fusion

Tayni, madam, Wickah... etc

She is really good, but I wasn't lucky enough to have the combo or gems to get her

If there is a monster like eisul and dunn not that easy

For wickah it is alright she has pierce plus TD

[lethal gyro]

guys what support monster should i try and get? the only legendary monster i currently have is prince charmless and im fairly knew to the game (level 28) so just wondering who to work towards

[potent cairn]

Is hornet good?

[steep wind]

yes

[austere kestrel]

only ranked I'd say

unranked she's good, but anticipation and area dodge really puts her up on the ranks

[willow ingot]

😭😭😭

It’s my 3rd day playing

If I get 340 coins that still won’t be enough 😭

I’m thinking about buying some coins but idk if it’s worth it and I’m on day 3 of playing

[cobalt acorn]

Never waste maze coins on the rare monster

Save em for the discount one

[willow ingot]

Is it worth it to waste 6 dollars to get prince charmless and ima starter

[little berry]

He is good for starters and in lower league but idk if 6$ is worth it

[willow ingot]

I already got marquise and I’m 100% I can get vodyanoy but idk bout charmless

[little berry]

If you already got Marquis then I would say don't use money on charmless, but pass that's the best deal in my opinion

[willow ingot]

Oops

Eh idc

I couldn’t choose if I should but I did

[bronze kraken]

Is hookuai still good ? I mean i know he's good but is he a top tier monster?

[austere kestrel]

he still holds up because of no CD attacks and anticipation

oh, and the control inmunity too

it basically makes it a monster you must kill since you can't restrain it with normal methods

[bronze kraken]

Thats what i hoped

Also is hookuai thetys and frosilka good enough for floor 1 and 2 of the thalassa dungeon?

[graceful wave]

Hi i have a question :how breed worker hulk ?

[austere kestrel]

masterpex, check pinned messages in the breeding channel

and poltergeist, I think it should be alright for the first floor

second, I think it'd be more difficult

[bronze kraken]

K have you got any suggestions?

[austere kestrel]

nab a water control monster

or a water denier

Zimyaya, Eisul, Ihtiander, Blob or Brynhilda are some monster, both from top tier and not-so top tier status that can help you

replace Thetys with one of them and bam. You should be alright to clear the second floor too

but for the first one you should be alright with them

although make sure that Hookuai stays alive.

[little berry]

Zimnyaya and brynhilda are not good. Idk why you even recommended that,

[austere kestrel]

they're just decent to go through floor 1

Zymyaya can potentially be more useful in upper floors, because of megafreeze and stamina removal, but Ihtiander, Blob and Brynhilda should be looked as temporary for lower floors.

[bronze kraken]

Thanks kutami I've got uriels essence so hopefully hookuai can carry.

[austere kestrel]

best of luck

[bronze kraken]

Is frostbite good?

[austere kestrel]

he's decent

[bronze kraken]

Umm

[austere kestrel]

don't mind him

[little berry]

Don't mind that jerk

[bronze kraken]

I'll probably use blob then if that's the only one both of you agree on

[little berry]

Just don't use zimnyaya use thetys or ithiander they work

Blob also better

Secondary denier

[austere kestrel]

anyways, frostbite is decent with freezes and stamina drain
he also has a team double damage and a 50% stamina regain

[little berry]

Ts holder

[austere kestrel]

so definetely decent but not the best

[bronze kraken]

Thanks alot guys i hope i get thalassa!

[austere kestrel]

best of luck

[little berry]

Frostbite has good skills he lacks speed

You can fix it with any ts holders

[austere kestrel]

blob is not the best you can do, but he's breedable and can provide constant results

[little berry]

Definitely not zimmy

[bronze kraken]

I actually use frosilka with speed to either do control immunity or per

[little berry]

Fros works with ts as well she has dodge area

[bronze kraken]

K

[elder lotus]

Hey im lvl 40 and i need help deciding on who to use as denial thetys or psilotus
Damage is armor claw and 3rd is miserus

[austere kestrel]

we already answered in general discussion lol

use psilotus

[rugged warren]

Psilotus for sure

[quaint rover]

How can you breed Terracrank, i need it to breed Rockantium cuz i need a tank in my battle deck.

[rugged warren]

Any earth hybrid with any magic hybrid

[wanton orbit]

which team should i use

rank 2 wyrmlad, rank 1 armor claw, rank 0 ragnarok

rank 2 wyrmlad, rank 2 armor claw, rank 2 grakon

[quaint rover]

@rugged warren And how do you get that hybrid thingy?

@wanton orbit You have 2 armor claws?

[neat badger]

Lac Li, goto #breeding-events-and-permanent and look at pinned messages for breeding combos.

[azure verge]

What do you get when you breed that skeleton elephant and rabidex

[short viper]

Are these the best skills

[thorn breach]

Wow

[little berry]

Who’s better, Baba Yaga or Miserus? (Both level 60)

[willow ingot]

I got marquise, prince charmless, and so close to vodanoy in the maze on my 3rd day of playing

[fast knoll]

Is it better to get monster cells or to get the monster whole?

[bitter wedge]

Depends on the costs/event

[fast knoll]

Let's say Saulot

In the shop it's 276

[bitter wedge]

Oh right, Monster Week and cell lab event is up rn

Well in this case, it's much better to not go for either of them

[fast knoll]

Ah ok

I'll just save up then

[bitter wedge]

Yup

[fast knoll]

Rara avis looks cool but I won't use gems to try to get 100 of her cells

[supple veldt]

is there's any mons that has AoE Trait Disabled (not the special skill) ?

[fickle acorn]

Ingenica

Grakon with his r4 skill

[bitter wedge]

Wasper, Itzanami

[supple veldt]

alright got it.. thanks !

[little berry]

[little berry]

Korruptus and synap single trait disable, aknobuki too

[waxen blaze]

Is elite days coming anytime soon??

[austere kestrel]

next week

[visual sleet]

any recommendations for attack, def and runes?

[austere kestrel]

uuh, for which of the monsters?

[visual sleet]

those

wjicj ones should i use for my teams

[austere kestrel]

I dunno... Put Armor Claw on defense, along with Burotgor and Roci.
Then put Miserus, Deva and Saulot on attack.

Those are my personal reccomendations.

The problem in your monsters is that you have way too much attackers and not a lot of cursers.

[visual sleet]

ya ik

[waxen blaze]

Thanks kutami 🙂

[visual sleet]

any ones i should go for?

cursers i mean

[austere kestrel]

uh... no problem. although you weren't the one who asked for help sendoh.

you already have one.

[visual sleet]

oh ya thx man

[waxen blaze]

Rocuiko is good with tortures

[frosty dove]

woman

[visual sleet]

oh

oops

my bad

[austere kestrel]

you already have one there. Saulot is one of the best ones to spam tortures with

and also has mega possession and possession too.

[waxen blaze]

You can partner her with armorclaw and miserus

[visual sleet]

i like using saulot and cain

[waxen blaze]

Depends on the league tho. Most my enemies are immune to control

Saulot wont be good in my league

[visual sleet]

im in leg 4

[austere kestrel]

Using cain is asking for trouble. His extra turn moves will be killed with anticipation easily.

[visual sleet]

i have lik 5.53k

[waxen blaze]

You need a cleanser

[visual sleet]

tayni maybe?

[waxen blaze]

What monsters do you see mostly??

[little berry]

@visual sleet i gave you a team combo in #ml-general-discussion

[visual sleet]

rag thylassa alot of elviara many cyberials

oh sry im new here

[waxen blaze]

Then yeah you need 1 with PeR and NeR

[visual sleet]

not rlly familliar with the channel eticate

oh ok

ya

[waxen blaze]

I’d go with armorclaw to tank and give out dmg then rocuiko to clean and torture then miserus to heal and ressurect

But runes are important tho make sure you always go first

[visual sleet]

ya ik im stuck al lvl 5 runes for now cus im an f2p

[waxen blaze]

You’ll work your way up there:) just need patience 👍

[visual sleet]

maybe i go sualot to deny 1st turn then cain to do his major attacks and and then rokuiko for her aeo evasion

[waxen blaze]

Sure, but u said u have some elvira?

[visual sleet]

ya ik i have a cleanse move but i usually try to ignore teams with monsters like elvira and grakon

those two monsters kinda destroy the blalance

[waxen blaze]

Good 🙂 as long as u stay in L4 I don’t think you have to worry about pvp that much:) focus on joining events and grinding everyday

[inner yarrow]

Hi

[visual sleet]

oh ok

thx aloit

alot

[inner yarrow]

Ghello?

[waxen blaze]

For sure 🙂 i was like that before stressed and stuff but just grind and you’ll be in the top soon ✌🏻🙏🏼

Yellowww

[inner yarrow]

I’m trash at ml 😃

[old swan]

[devout brook]

is tayni gud

[little berry]

Yes

He has NER,PER and TD which are all great

And he’s a mythic

So he can one shot legends :KEKWswirl:

Yep

[coral dirge]

How do I get pieces for tale challenge?

[little berry]

It was available in mw and dungeons. If you miss it spend 10 gems for chest which is unnecessary

Considering the event started yesterday

[rugged warren]

Don't bother for it anymore

I'd end up spending even more gems on a really costy event

[little berry]

Iam not doing progressive myself, untill better monster comes

Skipped both vandaken and bird lady. Although i still have that 50 cells of vandaken

[soft terrace]

Guys if I have 200 erder cells can I craft it twice

[rugged warren]

No

U can only have 1 Mythic

[soft terrace]

But for legendary monster we can craft them

Right

[rugged warren]

U can craft as many legendary monster copies as u want apart from Forsakens and Pumpseed

And Warmasters

[soft terrace]

Ok thanks for the info

[rugged warren]

Anytime

[soft terrace]

I have 97 gems and I am in 30 cells node can I get rara

Is it possible to get her by spending gems in three days

[rugged warren]

Yes but ur gonna need good collections

[soft terrace]

Ss I do it every 8 hours

Without fail

[rugged warren]

Yes

[little berry]

Sad I don’t even have a legendary

@little berry be active and try doing Maze and progressive events to get good legendaries

If you want I can explain how to do them properly

Really

Please I need tips

I did the maze thing and I used all my maze coins on this legendary but then it disappeared

The green frog guy

Did you get his egg?

Nope

It just disappeared

Also I suggest you get pupil role, ask for it in #role-request

How do I get it?

Post your profile there and ask for pupil role

Ok I’ll try

Like this

Come to #role-request and post a ss of your profile

O ok

Wait

Where do I see my profile

[gray oasis]

anyone got a good moveset for warmaster gortak?

[little berry]

There

Sorry I noobie

@little berry can I ask why you have so much panda

Pandas*

So much

@little berry it's call pandaken farming, it's one of the best ways to get gold

O really

I had more, removed some for more space

Sad I delete all my pandas

I thought they were bad

@little berry
Pandaken farming, basically what you need to do is make as many nature habitat as possible, breed pandaken and place them in there, set a max level to which you will feed all of them (i.e. level 10,15, etc.) Upgrade all nature habitat to min level 4 so you can get good amount (will take time, but you don't have to rush it) later on when you have good enough gold, place nature and fire boosts near your habitat to get more gold. This is pretty all and if you want you can give them team gold runes too.

You can still do it

Can I get more tips on getting a legendary I tried all the yet videos of breeding they don’t work

Yt

YouTube

I can help you, let's use DM because this channel is only for monster discussion

O ok

[bronze kraken]

Is kihaku available during cell weej?

Week*

[spiral knoll]

Should I get 50 reptie cells or save my war coins

[little berry]

Save wc

[spiral knoll]

k

I have 10 war medals sadness

[little berry]

Buy a diamond chest

[spiral knoll]

Can't team is bronze 1

[little berry]

Ooh

[spiral knoll]

And my team is nice plus one of the only good teams I could find but I don't mind waiting a while

to get a legendary

[little berry]

It'll take time even for us it took a while.

[spiral knoll]

yeah but I just have to fight wars and complete seasons

[little berry]

Season end rewards and stuff winning wars

[spiral knoll]

I'm excited I almost have Tayni

[little berry]

They stopped tbg were we get 500 war medals for 1st place

[spiral knoll]

oof

I can't wait to own a mythic

[little berry]

Tayni?

[spiral knoll]

yep

[little berry]

Noice

[spiral knoll]

thx

do you have a(or multiple) mythic(s)?

[little berry]

Yes

Only one i use is cyberiel

[spiral knoll]

cool

[little berry]

Yep

[spiral knoll]

Who was your first legendary mine was noctum

[little berry]

Enypiast

[spiral knoll]

Cool

[little berry]

From a 24h event

[spiral knoll]

I got noctum from 72h

along with tephra himass and ralbog

[little berry]

I think I haven't hatched a lot of old monsters

[spiral knoll]

and the warrior from a video master chest

I havn't hatched himass too busy with breeding for legend pass

[little berry]

Already we have limited space so better keep em in inventory

[spiral knoll]

yeah

I have like 50 eggs in my inventory and I only plan on hatching one

[little berry]

Only best ones

[spiral knoll]

Only legendaries or mythics

unless they trash

[little berry]

Iam thinking about hatching and selling them no use for me

[spiral knoll]

ha

[little berry]

If i did have a copy then would have considered for elemental cells exctraction

[bronze kraken]

Can you gey kihaku cells from cell week?

[spiral knoll]

I dunno

[dawn spade]

Is any of the breedable legendaries good enough to use in battles?

[steep wind]

If you have no other legendaries then yes

[neon nimbus]

It isnt giving me the gold pots and chicken legs

[spiral knoll]

ye

[little condor]

is rekka worth ranking up

[spiral knoll]

Probably

[austere kestrel]

he's the best extra turner on the block

he's fine, but not amazing

[spiral knoll]

yeah

[fringe dawn]

Baroness any good?

[steep wind]

Not really but she's decent if you don't have much else

[austere kestrel]

^

You can have worse than her.

[steep wind]

^

[short viper]

Hi

[toxic totem]

Morgezz good?

[tidal barn]

no

hes bad

Morgz is bad

[frosty dove]

Morgz is the second worse mythic monster.

[tidal barn]

^

[twilit tangle]

what does rank do? like monster rank?

[frosty dove]

it raises their stats and GPM

[fickle acorn]

More every monster, it raises the max Level you can feed it too, raises its stats much farther when going into the ranked levels, increases their GPM, and for some monsters, you can unlock certain skills and/or traits.

[steep wind]

Only the categorised monsters get extra skills when ranked up though (Nemesis, Elite, Forsaken and Warmasters)

[twilit tangle]

oh k

[little berry]

What y’all think about him

I breed for him

[lethal gyro]

best breedable legendary to have with prince charmless?

[little berry]

Oh nice

I made the right choice

[steep wind]

How many gems did you use?

[hoary grove]

Not worth gemming charmless

[austere kestrel]

^

I really love how they introduced Charmless and Rekka in the same event

It's like introducing Timmy and Posi on the same event

[hoary grove]

or Clivia and Alpha Cliviast

I mean, they did have an event for all three shademoons a while ago..

[austere kestrel]

well, Clivia and Alpha Cliviast are kinda different

[short viper]

@steep wind like 300+ it was 16 attempts

I got the first one on my 3rd try

[hoary grove]

Not worth at all

[spiral knoll]

who's the worst mythic

[little berry]

Xavi

[austere kestrel]

Morgz is a close second though

[spiral knoll]

Where does tayni rank

[austere kestrel]

Probably higher than them

[bitter anvil]

Pretty good but not seen in meta yet since new

[spiral knoll]

good to know because last free pass mythic ended up being really good and I hoped the same for this one

[austere kestrel]

Last one was Armour, right?

[spiral knoll]

yes

[austere kestrel]

Well, Tayni holds the virtue of being the fastest user of TD, so I'm guessing he'll be ranking high for a while on that alone.

[spiral knoll]

niiiiice

[austere kestrel]

until a mythic meta is made and he gets knocked down a few pegs, I'm guessing

[spiral knoll]

yaeh

[little berry]

Tayni ranks among froma for now and is a unique support. Wait a few months before everything changes.

[spiral knoll]

ok

[little berry]

When you use an aoe attack on a team with skill mirror, which monster will reflect the attack?

[spiral knoll]

hmmmmmmm

[little berry]

Random i think

You're not sure though

Nope

@little berry have you tried using remntar with 3 monsters and test it out.

Mine has no runes fn

[mint widget]

The whole team has skill mirror?
The fastest one of them as i see

[spiral knoll]

Probably the fastest one

[mint widget]

I am 99% sure

[spiral knoll]

Me too

[little berry]

What about 1%,😂

[mint widget]

Bec in classic duels
When timmy applies skill mirror he is the one to reflect it (when he is the fastest)

[spiral knoll]

ye

[little berry]

I think it depends upon the caster and not on speed

[mint widget]

Maybe
I haven't tested

[little berry]

Probably the caster reflects skills

If you have silverleaf or remntar

I never pay attention when I'm using zilverleaf

[mint widget]

A question on the topic
If i used skill mirror then an ally healed by 30% or something
Will the monster get double healed

[spiral knoll]

no the monster will reflect the heal and they both will be healed

[little berry]

If an ally uses the skill on the middle one user and the middle monster gets buff

[spiral knoll]

Unless it heals itself then it would get double healed

[little berry]

Imagine if its aoe healing the animation shows it twice on all monsters

[spiral knoll]

It would

[little berry]

If you use Wrymlad's move called never liked you after giving him skill mirror it's a 100% aoe heal

[spiral knoll]

nice

[little berry]

Are you talking about master work armor plus his 50% heal

That would be cool if Wyrm ever got a turn in nowadays

Aoe

Yes

Also it isn't the fastest monster

[fast knoll]

How do I get breeding points?

[fiery skiff]

By breeding the elements necessary

Like nature and light breed light with nature

[fast knoll]

Thank you

[fiery skiff]

👍

[fast knoll]

It just worked Thank you so much

[edgy panther]

is general ingvar any good?

[austere kestrel]

Super Outclassed in today's meta.

[edgy panther]

so thetys and atum are better

[austere kestrel]

well he has light and special weakness

other teammates can get use of the special weakness, but it's mainly just a gimmick, since NER exists

same can be said about Atum's shields

Thetys is the only good general of the bunch

[edgy panther]

should i rank up shannaras bodyguard or get holters bodyguard

[austere kestrel]

Holter's

[edgy panther]

ok

[austere kestrel]

Holte's BG is the best team war monster you can get

period

[edgy panther]

ok

what does DoT mean

[frosty dove]

Damage over time

[storm halo]

Armor and Miserus have 1 slot only, so worth unlocking? With/without discount, they both lvl 110 btw

[austere kestrel]

that was some bad luck there

yeah, they're both worth unlocking rune slots for

would focus on Armor first, since he's the better of the two

[storm halo]

Awesome, thnx... do you know when is discount or shall I proceed?

[frosty dove]

we don't

[storm halo]

Cool.

[topaz onyx]

What is the Meta

[little berry]

Bruh

3 b2b wins

[random frigate]

Hey does anyone know what moves and runes should be put on Uria Bodyguard?

[steep wind]

[random frigate]

Thx

[young cypress]

What's best runes for Griffin?

[little berry]

[young cypress]

Thank you

[little berry]

Np

[vernal quarry]

This is something I've been considering for a long time and I wanted others' opinions on it. I've been playing the game for a few years and I'm in Legendary IV in PVP. I know that the meta is changing so until Mythics came along, monsters could be outclassed by others in a few months. So the question is, which monsters are worth spending resources, runes and relics on, and which are used to fight? I want to get better at the game and I want to climb trophies in PVP but at the same time I want to have fun by having a bit of variety and not always using the exact same things over and over again. Until now my general rule of thumb was that if a monster was ranked at least A- in the Monster Legends Legendary Viability Ranking (https://monster-legends-competitive.fandom.com/wiki/Legendary_Viability_Ranking) it was good or at least useable in battle. But things like Ralbog are ranked in A- and I can't imagine any competitive player saying Ralbog is good. So as a general rule what kind of monsters are worth using runes and relics on and are worth using in battle competitively?

Wow sorry for long message

[steep wind]

If you use the Competitive wiki then at least go for one of the top tier monsters and not some A- thing

[little berry]

Or don’t use it at all cause it’s trash :tbhfam:

[dawn spade]

I have never seen this monster before, is he good for anything?

[steep wind]

As an epic he is decent

He has Burn, Ignite and Fire Weakness

[night trench]

What Runes should I put on a hornet, of I am running a 2 area dodge and a taunt monster team? (E.g. Erder, hornet, wyrmlad)

*if

[steep wind]

[night trench]

Thx

[bitter wedge]

Either or

I run mine all speed because I find it more useful

[willow ingot]

Anyone know who’s the best epic monster

[steep wind]

Bonnie Bark and Nautillus V2 are some contenders

[bitter wedge]

Ophiuchus

[final oxide]

@vernal quarry I'd generally say mostly only the mons in and around OP- and OP on that list are all that worth using anymore. Mythics have really been taking over in the higher areas, and they're kinda a necessity if you wanna push the leagues.

[bitter wedge]

Hippierion is also annoying

[willow ingot]

Are mythic too overpowered?

?

[final oxide]

All I ever tend to see anymore from Legends are the typical Wyrm, Rag, Grakon, Thalassa, and MT tanks. Been seeing tons more Mythics as I push.

[willow ingot]

HonesTly mythics is are dumb ideas

No need for another type of monster and legendarys were already good

[little berry]

Well yeah

But money > making a good game :tbhfam:

[little berry]

Wait for another rarity and all those who support mythics now will complain even more.

[fast knoll]

How long do I wait to get another breeding point?

[little berry]

I’d assume

[fast knoll]

8 hours like the coins and food?

[little berry]

Might take two new rarities to really drive the point home tho

[steep wind]

Is the level 13 La' Croc offer worth it?

[edgy panther]

Should i rank up shannaras bodyguard

[steep wind]

yes

[rugged warren]

Yes

[bronze kraken]

Is there an easy way to get kihaku cells?

[steep wind]

No

[bronze kraken]

K

Do u know a good denier for thalassa dungeon that is easy to get

Like someone in cell week?

[steep wind]

uh

[bitter wedge]

If you can manage to get Thetys go first, she's a decent pick for that Dungeon

[bronze kraken]

K iv got her so thanks

[bitter wedge]

But I wouldn't spend too much on her just for a Dungeon

[bronze kraken]

Ik she's already rank 1

And iv got loads of coins

[steep wind]

Caillech is a semi decent denier, although wouldn't really recommend

[bronze kraken]

Thnks

[steep wind]

If you're using freeze monsters then Thetys Bodyguard can also be good, and her Pet has a Stun Move

[bronze kraken]

K

[raw escarp]

Is he good

[steep wind]

No

[raw escarp]

Ok

Thanks

[regal steppe]

So whats the best support right now?

[steep wind]

Maybe Tayni for PER/NER and Miserus for Healing+Resurrection

[pallid coral]

Wyrm and nisael are also great support picks if you have them

[rugged warren]

Thetys' bodyguard isn't good

Not even any freeze skill

[steep wind]

She has Freeze Hater though

[bronze kraken]

Who is a better tank hyperia rank1 or koralle brutalis rank 1

[steep wind]

Hyperia

[bronze kraken]

K

Should i still request hyperia cells if i have 25 hyperia cells and 66 koralle cells?

[steep wind]

Can you even request Hyperia cells?

[bronze kraken]

Yh

[austere kestrel]

Isn't Hyperia like... A tank that can also attack and doesn't excede at both?

Or so I was told.

[little berry]

No

[bronze kraken]

You could say that but she has sc
:mega taunt

[little berry]

That’s what people acted like he is but they’re overthinking it

He’s just better off as a tank 90% of the time

[bronze kraken]

Especially with mythics

[raw escarp]

Hello

I have a question

[austere kestrel]

shoot

[raw escarp]

What are demises best attacks or skills

[steep wind]

Strength from Beyond
The Light Within
The AoE PER
The single target PER

[raw escarp]

@steep wind what's a AoE Per and a Per

[steep wind]

Area Of Effect (all enemies) Positive Effect Removal

[raw escarp]

Ok

And just do something for the other one

[steep wind]

Yeah

[weak wing]

Runes for rociuko

[mint widget]

3 ts

[steep wind]

[weak wing]

Thanks

Who is the best mythic

[golden bane]

Suggestions for a team? Currently use armor claw? Guidigo, and miserous

[steep wind]

Gaidago, Erder and Miserus

[little berry]

Tayni, gaidigo and eder

[raw escarp]

Best skills for beledig

Please😁

[little berry]

Spirit of the snake
Spirit of cheetah
Danger of wild
Mastery of surrounding s

[hoary grove]

Spirit of The Snake (3-turn Death Countdown + self Extra Turn, 30s, 3 CD)
Danger of The Wilds (45 Earth dmg + AoE Poison + self Extra Turn, 35s, 3 CD)
Spirit of the Cheetah (self Evasion + Extra Turn, 30s, 3 CD)
Mastery of Her Surroundings (AoE 40 Special dmg + Quicksand, 28s, 3 CD)

[raw escarp]

Ok

Thanks guys

[austere kestrel]

Yep, Nyo's right

use them in succession and you should do some nasty damage as long as anticipation isn't present

[hoary grove]

compe tetiv e wik i

[raw escarp]

Is devastrees worth 20 elimentium

@hoary grove

[austere kestrel]

She's kinda good. Magic attacker with pierce, so she ignores things like taunt and mega taunt when attacking as well as other things

[raw escarp]

Ok

I grinned and level up 5 times to level 73

[austere kestrel]

And I think she's still meta within the legendaries, so, if you want and don't have any other magic attacker, then yes.

[raw escarp]

Ah

[austere kestrel]

I would wait to see if the MW cell event doesn't change though

[raw escarp]

Ok

[austere kestrel]

to see if you get her for free instead of putting elementium in

[raw escarp]

Is yedra good

[austere kestrel]

eeeeeh... In my opinion, no

[raw escarp]

Rociuko

[austere kestrel]

yes

[raw escarp]

Ok I got her

Who is the other one

Rociuko, Yedra, Devastrees, and who else or is it just them for that event

[austere kestrel]

both are supporters, yedra has PER and healing and also some attacking skills that spread poison and something other, but Rociuko is better as a support

[raw escarp]

Ok

Thanks

[austere kestrel]

anticipation and control inmunity is very good to have

[raw escarp]

I'm trying to get timerion, tiaga , and the bat guy

[austere kestrel]

she has ner and can also work as a curser with her various weakness moves.

[raw escarp]

Yeah

[austere kestrel]

again, do wait to see if you can get the three of them out of MW

so you don't use up resources

[raw escarp]

Ok

Thanks

[austere kestrel]

I wouldn't reccomend neither of the other three you mentioned though

[raw escarp]

What level are you

[austere kestrel]

Timerion is far off his prime (and positron is basically better than it) and the other two don't cut it

[raw escarp]

Ok

[austere kestrel]

I'm level 110

[raw escarp]

Dang

[austere kestrel]

if you want those three for collections go right ahead

[raw escarp]

Is the bones in this discord the real one

Bonesaw.

[austere kestrel]

Nishant's Pet can still be useful for team wars restrictions, if you don't have anything better, but it's better to shoot for thetys or Holter's BG

wdym?

[raw escarp]

I have holter bg

Bonesaw one of the best players

[austere kestrel]

I dunno

[little berry]

Positron isn’t really a better Timerion

Shannara bg is way better than thetys bg

[austere kestrel]

Smaug, it has CDA inmunity on later ranks

as an SC

[little berry]

You can argue he’s better

But the two don’t share many similarities besides design and role

[austere kestrel]

is a great support that holds up to today's meta with PER and NER with CDDA area dodge, CDP and much more

[little berry]

Eh

[austere kestrel]

it can also somewhat deny and can inflict some tortures like nanovirus, so it doesn't sit idle if all of his teammates die like with timmy

one is relevant in current meta, the other is not

[little berry]

He’s a legend that isn’t grakon, thal, santa, saying he holds up in the meta today is kinda so so :tbhfam:

[austere kestrel]

if you have any PER user or pierce user, timerion becomes a joke

it doesn't hold in today's meta

per and pierce totally kills him and the best supporters carry PER and NER

[little berry]

CDA :sosig:

Neither hold up in the current meta tho

[austere kestrel]

oh, you mean the ones Positron, who is still meta SC to all of his allies?

Positron can still hold his own in current meta

[little berry]

:Doubt:

[austere kestrel]

timerion is a joke now

[little berry]

So is positron

[austere kestrel]

no?

[little berry]

Before mythics you’d be right

[austere kestrel]

and with the current legendary meta, I'd be right too

[little berry]

But now neither are usable outside of early game and you could argue Timmy is better for combating early game

[austere kestrel]

again, PER and NER are everywhere and pierce exists

most meta monsters cast CDA protection too

Timerion has nothing to do with them

specially because if everyone dies, timerion is useless

[little berry]

Just don’t let them die then

[austere kestrel]

positron at least makes it hard for opponents to deny

[little berry]

How so?

[austere kestrel]

dude, by that arguement, every monster is meta if they don't die

I just told you

CDA protection as SC

[little berry]

But I thought PER is everywhere :sosig:

[austere kestrel]

has ner and per and also denying on his own with possession and some tortures with nanovirus

look, there's a reason why timerion is one of if not the lowest ranked monster in grand duels

and lookie lookie, Positron is there

along with others like kronx and mirak and roci and a bunch of other monsters who laugh in the face of his easily removable skills

[little berry]

Lowest ranked by who?

I’m not arguing Timmy isn’t terrible in meta gameplay

Simply that positron is too

[austere kestrel]

competitive wiki, but one look at the pool of monsters and you wouldn't choose timmy

[little berry]

Competitive wiki trash :tbhfam:

[austere kestrel]

again, look at the pool of monsters available

[little berry]

Sure

[austere kestrel]

oh, wangzhou, who can 100% remove stamina. not blocked by artifact

[little berry]

But I’m not gonna use their rankings

[austere kestrel]

draghar, who can trait disable

Hookuai, who has 0 CD moves

Nisael has PER and NER on one single move and can revive.

time stop you say? kronx is in there too

there are way too many monsters that just overwhelms Timmy

[little berry]

Again I agree he’s terrible against meta monsters

But positron is too

[austere kestrel]

Again, Positron can support his allies better than Timerion

[little berry]

Trash is still trash

[austere kestrel]

Posi is not trash omg

[little berry]

Whether or not one is slightly better than the other

[austere kestrel]

Slightly better?

Positron is more useful than timmy

[little berry]

Sure

[austere kestrel]

does timmy have a SC: CDA inmunity?

[little berry]

Still not useful enough to be good against meta monsters

[austere kestrel]

does he have PER and NER?

I'm not discussing whether he holds up against meta monsters

which he totally does

I'm discussing to you the fact that Positron is more useful than timmy

which he is

[little berry]

And I agree

But I’m still not touching either outside of early game

[austere kestrel]

well, your loss on a fantastic support monster

[regal steppe]

hey so is copperbeard still good nowadays?

[little berry]

For new players yes

[raw escarp]

What is the best attacks for dr Hazard

[wispy vale]

How do you boys feel about voltaik as a control monster

[raw escarp]

@austere kestrel what are the best attacks for dr Hazard

[wispy vale]

@raw escarp https://monster-legends-competitive.fandom.com/wiki/Dr._Hazard this might help, not sure how up to date it is but the wiki can give a good general idea of a monster

[fickle acorn]

VoltaiK is not a control monster

[wispy vale]

My b I meant yntec

[little berry]

:Yoda:

[willow ingot]

What timerion ruins?

Should I use

[bitter wedge]

or

I prefer all TS because he's way past his prime

But run him 3 Speed if you lack any denier

[onyx leaf]

Is she good?

[steep wind]

not really

[idle nexus]

She is good! for el collosal

Otherwise not good

[willow ingot]

Why don’t a lot people use their mythical monsters

[little berry]

:Yoda:

[rugged warren]

Because they suck most of the time

[obtuse helm]

Hey people, I have a question, if I send an invitation to play the game(here), will I get 30 gems? There is that quest where you gotta invite 5 people to get the gems, which I really need

[bitter wedge]

That only works on your FB friends that haven't played ML yet

[obtuse helm]

Oh

Welp

Getting those 30 gems will take more than expected 😅

[obtuse helm]

Do you guys think I can still get those 50 cells with this progress

[bitter wedge]

With perfect collections and additional gems from the gems Dungeon and tasks, probably not

[obtuse helm]

Oh ok

Rn from adventure weels I got 6 more gems lol

[little berry]

Question any info about the birthday monster

[steep wind]

No

[little berry]

thx

[glad dock]

Idk where else to ask this question. No one responds in general discussion.
Guardian of food is activated. When I collect my food it only shows the amount I grew and my food count only goes up that same amount. Why?

[sharp lance]

Doesn’t it only give speed boost

[steep wind]

No

It gives boost to food production

[night trench]

Is warmaster Gortak worth the orbs?

In other words isnhe good?

*is he

[rugged warren]

U should for others first

[willow ingot]

What ruins for marquise?

[steep wind]

[idle nexus]

[stone patio]

[little berry]

what do we do with cells

[rugged warren]

Get 100 and craft a monster

[little berry]

ok thx

[rugged warren]

U need 80 for legendaries

100 for Mythics

[twilit tangle]

Should I make this island for monsters habitat or farm?

Tryin to clean my island

[austere kestrel]

farm

[twilit tangle]

Ok

[drowsy stream]

Morgz a beast if ranked. Think it’s an overpowered peirceid

???

[frosty dove]

[serene meteor]

[drowsy stream]

😷

[rugged warren]

Morgz isn't op

At all

Pierceid's moves did cda and 3td

And she had an aoe Posession

And reverse healing skill

[little berry]

hey guys what's an easy way to get legendary or upgrade legendary?

if I have a general thetys, already and im trying to upgrade her to 105 or something, do I need to have 70 thetys cells before I can use things like elementium and water cells?

[edgy panther]

Is it possible to get two taynis one from the daily missions and one from the rewards

[gray oasis]

nope

you can only rank up

[edgy panther]

What if u craft it using the daily missions

And then collect the one from the rewards

[candid mantle]

How much gold do u get from a lvl 3 mythic habitat with 3 lvl 100 mythics?

[hoary grove]

if you click info on the habitat it shows the maximum gold capacity

[mint widget]

@edgy panther you can't craft it again

[edgy panther]

I know but from the rewards it goes straight to your hatchery

And if u craft it right before u collect it u would have two eggs wouldnt you

[civic topaz]

Are layth, Dr. Viktor, or Fampira any good?

[frosty dove]

nope

[fickle acorn]

For beginners, Dr. Viktor and Layth can be useful

[frosty dove]

Dr.Viktors AOE stun good

[fickle acorn]

Dr. Viktor helps in some books cause he can deny and Layth can be a good damage dealer

[frosty dove]

I think he has AOE stun if I recall

[fickle acorn]

Fampira has nothing that helpful tho

Yea it's AOE

[foggy plover]

Is this guy good?

[bitter wedge]

Ehh of you're low level, yes

He's decent

[crystal dust]

team speed holder i guess

maybe a strength

[bitter wedge]

He's an attacker

So

Saw a lot of use for him back in the day

[little berry]

@edgy panther yes

[willow ingot]

Prince charmless ruins?

[steep wind]

[little berry]

@willow ingot

Give him fury mask which works with him very well

[bitter wedge]

I prefer mine because Jazzy's Mask always me to do that

[soft terrace]

Guys I have 60 gems
And I am in third node with one collection remaining before the event ends
Now it takes 91 gems
After my last collection before the event
Can I get rara with my 60 gems
Is it possible

[little berry]

I think yes

[willow ingot]

Marquise?

What ruins

[little berry]

@willow ingot

Kekw

Lol

@soft terrace since you have one collection left, I think you will be able to get her

[soft terrace]

Ok I too hope so

One last collection before 4 minutes

For the event to end

[willow ingot]

When you hatch a monster you get a random number of slots available?

[bitter wedge]

Yes

Unless it's bought from the shop, it'll always have 3 Slots opened

[soft terrace]

@bitter wedgecan I get rara
Wat do u think

[bitter wedge]

Idk, just do your collections before the event ends and find out

[soft terrace]

Ok

[little berry]

whats the best runes for Rara avis?

ty

Np

[soft terrace]

@bitter wedgeibgot rara avis

[steep wind]

Cool

[soft terrace]

@steep winddid u got her

[steep wind]

Yes

Currently crafting her atm

[spiral knoll]

Yummy I like having four legendaries and soon a mythic I'm SO hyped

[little berry]

Nice

[raw escarp]

Best skills for tayni

[little berry]

Hurting hands, New waves, Wasper's way and Sweet juice/Swarm rush

[foggy plover]

Mop ruins?

[steep wind]

[little berry]

❌

[sage violet]

Should i rank up my grakon with 150 elementium

[hoary grove]

def

Grakon is one of the best deniers in the game rn

[sage violet]

Thanks

[bleak junco]

best runes for tayni?

if u say ples @ me imma go to slep

[rugged warren]

To lazy to ping

[bleak junco]

oh well im still up but k thanks

[covert comet]

Well. I got scammed. They sponsored lazerbeam and promised legendary. Only reason I came back to the gaim. Becusae they are a pain in the butt to get.

[steep wind]

You weren't scammed, just tricked into thinking that you'd get something you'd never actually get... you didn't technically lose anything valuable though so...

[little berry]

He lost time :KEKS:

[raw escarp]

Is Tayni good in pvp

[little berry]

Any mythic except Xavipt is good in pvp

But yes tayni is good

Xavipit big meme

I wish all mythics were like him

[tidal barn]

yes^

[pliant spade]

my general thetys is hatching is it worth to level her up to level 100 and add level 7 speed runes on her?

[sweet stirrup]

no

she is pretty out dated

[pliant spade]

ok it's just that I don't have anyone to AOE freeze or take out their stamina

[sweet stirrup]

ok

[pliant spade]

my current tead loadout is kassia with all speed armor gaming and erder

[sweet stirrup]

if you have a lot of runes sure, go for it but...

[pliant spade]

I don't have a lot of runes tbh

they are mostly level 5 runes

for team race

to craft level 6 runes

I have 2 lvl 7 str runes

and 3 lvl 7 runes

[sweet stirrup]

ok save them for a better control monster

[pliant spade]

all my other lvl 7s are quipped

ok

should I get rid of my level 8 health rune on erder and replace for speed?

[sweet stirrup]

depends on how you want to use her

[pliant spade]

he currently has 2 lvl 7s str and 1 lvl 8 health

she*

[sweet stirrup]

no keep her as a tank/attacker

[pliant spade]

ok

I also have rara

she's being crafted with cells atm