monster-discussion

[hazy escarp]

Ursus has nothing that would make him used more than hook

Except one okay pierce move

[unkempt coral]

He literally said that’s why but k

[inland trail]

That's not the only reason though

[unkempt coral]

Whatever

I think he’s good either way

[hazy escarp]

Then why are you arguing with us?

[little berry]

What are y’all arguing about

He’s solid

But Hook way better overall and water in general is stacked

[inland trail]

As I said being good nowdays means you're trash

[little berry]

Lol no

[inland trail]

Anything which you regard as good doesn't work
Look at hydratila for example

[little berry]

But he’s not good

He is trash

[inland trail]

He's quite good
But won't work

[little berry]

Nop trash tho

[inland trail]

Which is why you'd think he's trash

[little berry]

I mean I never ever see him being used at all

[inland trail]

That doesn't make him bad

[drowsy stream]

Should I get R0 thalassa or rank Rag to R1?

[inland trail]

Thalassa

[little berry]

Maybe in winter

And ever time I fight him he just doesn’t do anything he’s trash

[inland trail]

Rag's R0 skill meh

[little berry]

Pierce would be solid since Wyrm/Eisul dominate there and it’s a weak book overall

[inland trail]

Every time I fight wyrm he doesn't do anything so he's trash

[drowsy stream]

I mean rank Rag to R1 or get Thalassa R0

[inland trail]

Thalassa

[little berry]

Ur funny when u try and defend trash monsters

[drowsy stream]

Ok but why did you say R0 rag skill meh when I said I'm ranking to R1 😕

[inland trail]

Typo

:wowie:

[drowsy stream]

Also R1 rag skill is good isn't it?

[little berry]

It’s good

[inland trail]

Not really since it's an ET and rag will always face other rags

[little berry]

Overrated tho

[crisp dove]

Thalassa good at all ranks

[frosty dove]

no

[little berry]

Lol no she’s not

[magic thicket]

Rag is good at all ranks

[hexed socket]

Thalassa only good ranked up. In L4 league people have unranked and they get destroyed by my clipeum wyrmlad

[frozen crane]

L4 doesnt mean anything

any monster can get into L4 just fine

[odd temple]

Treezard and hayman be like

[frozen zodiac]

But only like the same 15 monsters can get into L3

[frozen crane]

u can unironically get into L4 with hayman

also L3 is 7 monsters only

Pumpseed, Hornet, Thalassa, Eisul, Wyrm, Rag, Hook

[little berry]

Ugluk where

[frozen crane]

ugluk doesnt cut it for L3 defense

[little berry]

Oof

Sherezar?

[frozen crane]

sherry doesnt cut it now either

[little berry]

Oof x2

[limpid spear]

If you have highly ranked monsters then you can use other monsters as well, I saw bonesaw's video of him using monsters like devastress, gortak and zizania when he got legendary leader

[little berry]

Yeah Bonesaw can do whatever he wants because he has the runes and the ranks

Ziz :DrakeYea:

[unkempt holly]

Those other monsters can be used as your attacker team
Everyone in L3 has high ranked monsters
He just buys a lot of attacks, with that you can try any team you want

[verbal sky]

when nemesis days?

[little berry]

Probably Thursday I think I’m not to sure

[frank nacelle]

It's Thalassa month this month, was it always you need to buy the legend pass for orb discount or is this new?

oh nvm it'd been a thing since sherezar's month, oh well, sucks

[jagged lake]

I remember andrej saying hornet wack

Andrej how is rag r0 skills bad

[inland trail]

I already said that was a typo :wowie:

[unkempt coral]

Kek

[jagged lake]

Oh k

[unkempt folio]

I need some orbs for me warmaster

[unkempt folio]

I won anyway

[little berry]

Lol

[little berry]

I had just pulled three silver relics and one gold relic from a bronze chest.

Nice

[little berry]

I am hoping Hookuai returns to the shop one last time. I had just accumulated enough gems to purchase Hookuai.

[frosty dove]

I doubt it tbh

[little berry]

I do as well.

[desert dune]

I did not expect this to happen last night 🤣

[little berry]

wow u got extremely lucky

[magic thicket]

I see rank 1 hayman

[maiden moth]

i got singularis from the magic chest, kinda sucked for me

[wet wharf]

Xiron is the best you couldve gotten

The ruby

[fickle acorn]

Congrats.

Place those boosts

[unkempt coral]

Hatch that r1 hayman more importantly

[stoic merlin]

wowoow

[frozen zodiac]

After pass I will have 200 nemesis souls should I buy 2 chests or buy an individual monster

[hazy escarp]

Individual

[stoic path]

No nemesis dungeon this month?

[little berry]

It starts on Thursday

[meager gate]

i think they come with nemesis days

[little berry]

I’m pretty nemesis days starts on Thursday

[unkempt holly]

Likely end of next week I think

[unkempt folio]

@desert dune you are so lucky with your chest that is one of the best magic monsters out there

[frozen crane]

im prob gonna pass on ranking thalassa since i wont have enough orbs to get her to r3 even with the discount

i didnt expect her to come this early

ill prob just wait for rag's month and get him to r5 in one go

ill have more time to gather orbs since i highly doubt he's coming in january

[frosty dove]

How orbs are needed for a rank 4 Ragnarok if you're already in his final dungeon?

Mines already at rank 3*

[frozen crane]

2400

including discount it should be 2040

[frosty dove]

I have enough then

Thank you very much.

[little berry]

We are getting default danced on

[little berry]

argh

We are always getting default danced on

[haughty lance]

I have a r2 gorg and r2 kihaku, which one should I rank up to rank 3 to beat the thalassa dungeon. My current team is R3 ursus and R3 eisul

[little berry]

How do u have ursus rank 3 already

Because P2W

[rigid phoenix]

Kihaku

[frosty dove]

Gorg

Maybe

@wide python

[little berry]

Lol

Saved it before it gets deleted

[wide python]

@strange depot delete that meme or

you have 1 minute

[little berry]

O

[wide python]

minute is over

[little berry]

Das a rip

[barren arch]

I deleted it.

[wide python]

but now i cant kick

[frosty dove]

[worldly wren]

anyone could recommend me a team for thalassa’ second floor ? I have max 105 lvl monsters, my actual team is : eisul, ursus and stake/amphidator but I have two attacker and traits are disabled so each times they get possessed then taunt.

and killed by the way except eisul who last longer but attack himself

[little berry]

What other water monsters do u have

[worldly wren]

blob,brynhilda and lord of atlantis... But I need to know which monster may be useful ? There is not a lot of them

ursus could freeze with full speed runes VIII but there is another one who taunt

[little berry]

Esiul,ursus,stake would probably be ur best bet

[worldly wren]

well, I will try to be lucky then

[silk swallow]

Try to get an attacker then

Zimnyaya would be best

[frozen zodiac]

Zim isn’t an attacker

[little berry]

What

[frosty dove]

zimnyaya

[desert dune]

@unkempt folio I know, so happy to get nemesis

[short canyon]

when does the nemesis days start?

[meager gate]

I think this Tuesday

[cerulean herald]

Thursday

Tuesday was yesterday

[little berry]

Friday

Because, Friday.

[frozen zodiac]

Man the legend pass won’t give me enough nemesis souls in time

[meager gate]

I think I don't know my day of the week anymore

[quick hill]

is rank 0 Thalassa worth it

[little berry]

No not really

[quick hill]

alright

[frozen zodiac]

Well she’s not horrible at rank 0

[little berry]

But she’s not worth it at rank 0

[unkempt folio]

Well it would if you got her cos then you could start ranking her up

[frozen zodiac]

Well she’s one of the best monsters in the game so it’s definitely worth it to get her but she won’t be useful till she’s ranked

[little berry]

One of :DrakeNo:

The best :DrakeYea:

[fickle acorn]

[thorn solar]

Is Nemesis enemies in Survival based on player level rank?

[little berry]

No

[thorn solar]

Everyone get the same for each node? Right?

[little berry]

Yop

[broken venture]

So If I do get Warthak, how far will I go in the dungeon with only him?

[little berry]

No far at all lol probably not even past the first node

[broken venture]

lmao ok

rip the dream

[limpid spear]

Warthak probably won't even beat 1st node by itself, however if you can get Sammy then those two can get quite far with right runes and relics

[torn arrow]

Where's the nemesis dungeon :/ ?

I don't see it

[hazy escarp]

It’s either in 1 hour or in 1 day

[torn arrow]

It usually starts with nemesis days which just started..

[dapper hinge]

Give it an hour or two

[sleek raft]

How far can I go in Nemesis Survival with Xiron (r3, 3 Speed), Llum (r1, 3 Team Speed), Hydratila (r0, 3 Team Speed)?

[opaque void]

What's the best r0 nemesis?

[limpid spear]

@sleek raft if you are lucky you can make it till the timerion node, just be careful on the thalassa node as it starts the game with control immunity so Ruby won't be able to aoe deny

[river glen]

What are all the ways to get nemesis souls I need the more to get 100

[high abyss]

first r5 legendary

😮

[frozen zodiac]

😲

[unkempt folio]

[little berry]

Oh dats nice

[thorn solar]

@limpid spear I reached Hydratila node. Maybe stamina remove maybe the relic I can equip before get a try.🤔

[wintry ingot]

I only have 22 souls

[onyx cobalt]

How do we get more nemesis souls? They removed live duel to get them

[little berry]

Buy the legends pass

[unkempt folio]

Hopefully when the next weekly challenges come out I can get the nemisis souls

[crystal kayak]

What's the best samael???

O have 50 souls for 1

[hazy escarp]

Plague carrier

[drowsy stream]

This dude any good

Got him in a box

[fickle acorn]

Yes very good.

[drowsy stream]

This is my only 2nd nemesis. So I'm getting happier

[fickle acorn]

[little berry]

Great

You got lucky

[drowsy stream]

Cool I'll take luck any day

[pseudo jolt]

@drowsy stream nice one of the best sammys

However pc is better in nsd

[high abyss]

got a fulmens shield

feels mega bad

[pseudo jolt]

[empty pebble]

Which nemesis chest should I open?

Please

I need help

[velvet spindle]

1st

[empty pebble]

Ok

I got this guy

Is he good?

[green citrus]

Decent

[empty pebble]

Ah

[green citrus]

Counters stamina drain monsters

Has AoE freeze

[empty pebble]

That’s kinda nice I guess

[drowsy stream]

Cool

[empty pebble]

Should I hatch it now or wait for the race is over?

[drowsy stream]

That’s wat I’m saying

[frosty dove]

it isn't decent

that's the crap version of that monster

[little berry]

That’s why chests wack

[quick hill]

is thalassa r0 any good? and how many orbs does it cost involving the season pass

[frosty dove]

It isn't good

[quick hill]

tough

[mossy portal]

Nemesis dungeon node where cda starts is?

[high abyss]

should i rank my zizania to r4

or should i save my metal cells

since there hasnt been one released in a sec

[hazy escarp]

Gortak node@mossy portal

It also stuns

Save metals

[little berry]

Ziz R4 :Beenut:

I think she might be worth getting to rank 4 I like her

[high abyss]

i mean mines already r3 and i dont have anyone else to use em on

and i dont plan on getting talos anytime soon

[little berry]

Well then I would say yes talos is not really good plus my talos all his ranked skills at 110 so need to rank him up either

[little berry]

Really no one else besides Ziz/Talos that are worth imo besides Mirak

But she doesn’t really benefit as much from ranking as those two

[drowsy stream]

I have 200 nemesis cells who I all thinks the better 1

U all

[little berry]

What

[drowsy stream]

Who should I get

[little berry]

depends on which element/book(s) you lack in

^

[unkempt folio]

There isn’t much point of asking if the war masters are good at rank 0 or rank 1 because your going to need them to rank them up

[drowsy stream]

True

[crisp dove]

are there events for warmasters or orbs

[misty elm]

Yes, Nemesis Survival Dungeon

[hallow viper]

Which do you think is best？ nemisis chest 1, 2, or 3?

[frosty dove]

1st imo

[long barn]

What's best Rune setup for Faraday?

[meager gate]

imo

If r0 might be better

So he doesn't get otk

[candid oasis]

is game working fine cuz my is not loading?

[covert hill]

Why is SP sparringly offering 8,500 orbs for?

[meager gate]

Cause it's a huge value

[rugged warren]

I feel bad for u getting Hydratila

[meager gate]

Who got Hydratila?

[frosty dove]

Don't feel bad.

I got him two times in the same chest

[meager gate]

oof

[candid oasis]

how much orbs required to get r4 on last floor?

[meager gate]

only time I bought a nemesis chest i got ruby

@candid oasis look at pinned messages

[candid oasis]

it is not there.

[frosty dove]

2.4k @candid oasis

If you already have the warmaster at rank 3

[narrow ginkgo]

how much for floor 3 thalassa? with discount

[hazy escarp]

@narrow ginkgo

[narrow ginkgo]

tysm

[hazy escarp]

Np

[stark zealot]

How to beat last node of rag floor 1

?

[meager gate]

don't use charmless with extra turn skills

[unkempt folio]

Really, the one I didn’t want to get, a ruby would’ve been nice, the two I dont way was this one and the water one 😭

[meager gate]

it's still pretty good

[unkempt folio]

Is it?

[meager gate]

yeah

[lunar vessel]

Agreed. I have the 2 other Llum and really like them

[unkempt folio]

Why do they put on the bad skills in the nemisis try out thing

[meager gate]

idk

[little berry]

What nemesis chest should I do?

1st

[inland trail]

None

[hazy escarp]

^

[twilit mauve]

Does Uriel essence work in Nemesis dungeons?

[hazy escarp]

Yes

[twilit mauve]

Nice. Thank you.

[dense finch]

I have 130 nemesis cells RN, should i buy a chest or save

[pseudo jolt]

@dense finch depends

Do you want to gamble or wait

Wait*

[dense finch]

waiting seem the ideal choice since sam is the only viable nemesis

[little berry]

Save

[pseudo jolt]

I mean ruby is also

[little berry]

Nop true tho but sure

[dense finch]

true

[pseudo jolt]

They’re good, just not meta

[little berry]

Every nemesis besides Hydratila and Lucifire has at least one variant that’s top or top 3 in their element

Not sure how that’s not viable

tHeY'rE oLd

Ur funny

🙂

no u

[unkempt folio]

Ruby is good for getting sherry

[little berry]

I guess

[little berry]

lit

Mmmmmmmmmm

[frozen zodiac]

He’s not immune, he’s immune

Is that the doing of a hornet?

[flat jasper]

[cerulean marsh]

Omg great offer

[little berry]

Mmmmmmmmmm yes

[barren arch]

@cerulean marsh wrong channel. 🤔

No Warmaster or Nemesis there.

[cerulean marsh]

Sorry I thought I was on the general discussion @barren arch

[barren arch]

It’s
OK. 😃

[river glen]

After two months of grinding orbs I got em

[frosty dove]

oh

nice waste of orbs

[meager gate]

very nice waste

[unkempt folio]

Extremely nice waste of orbs

[meager gate]

incredible

[little berry]

Why did u waste orbs on that monster

[warped totem]

its not a waste

@river glen nice job

[little berry]

Explain how it’s not a waste he’s literally the worst warmaster

[warped totem]

rule #3

be nice

[little berry]

I wasn’t being rude I was just saying why waste orbs for the worst warmaster

[meager gate]

it's not being rude,but barbael is worst WM

[warped totem]

hes not

hes better then thallasa

he has aoe damage boost

idk if hes better then ragnorak

[little berry]

:Bruh:

[meager gate]

🤦‍♂️

[frosty dove]

lmao

[meager gate]

@wide python

[wide python]

@river glen you have 30 seconds to delete that or you get banned

im counting

[meager gate]

me too

[river glen]

How do I delete?

[meager gate]

idk,how do you?

[wide python]

you put it there you delete

[river glen]

Found out!

😁

[meager gate]

:facepalms:

[wide python]

you work good under pressure

[river glen]

No I don’t I just accidentally pressed on the post then seen the delete button

[warped totem]

what?

isnt he better then thal

[meager gate]

no lol

[river glen]

😂no

[meager gate]

barbael trash

[warped totem]

oh

[river glen]

I’m just happy I have him

[warped totem]

oh ok

[frozen zodiac]

Yea he was my first warmaster

[warped totem]

im doing rag dungeon rn

[frozen zodiac]

Heavily regret it

[meager gate]

yeah

[warped totem]

hopefully hes my first

im jk btw

[frozen zodiac]

He’s good for doing dungeons quickly making your attacker insta kill everything

[river glen]

I only have r1 fires that’s why I went for him

[warped totem]

ofc barebeal trash

i have r2 magics

u dont see me going for sherry

[frozen zodiac]

My sherry rank 3 in like 5 minutes

[warped totem]

only rag and elvira worth

at r0

[frozen zodiac]

And thal

Oop nvm

[river glen]

Ok let me rephrase that the only good r1s I have are fires

[warped totem]

for r4/5 rag and thal only

so save

@river glen

[frozen zodiac]

Well sherry has a nice rank 4 move

[warped totem]

orbs till u get monsters for thal and rag

[frozen zodiac]

And gortak is handsome

[river glen]

Um what...

[frozen zodiac]

Actually nvm

[little berry]

Does he.

[meager gate]

Hi saph!

[inland trail]

Well barbael isn't the worst
His trait is guite good and his relic slots are amazing, he's way better than necro and is better than zahra and babari

[unkempt folio]

I’m stuck on a thallasa node

[high abyss]

which one

[little berry]

Better than Babari :DrakeNo:

[hazy escarp]

Better than zahra :nop:

[little berry]

He is not better then zahra and babari lol

[little berry]

I always forget necro is a warmaster

[high abyss]

necro and barb are the worst imo

[little berry]

Ur opinion is correct

[limber comet]

hopefully getting another X speed soon

how many orbs is need in total to complete the 3rd 4th and 5th floor

if someone has a sheet i’ll do the math myself

[little berry]

Like around 11k-13k

Maybe lower

[unkempt holly]

2400 floor 3, 3500 floor 4, 4800 floor 5

[mystic trench]

Is their some way with the avatars that lowers the requirements for the dungeons?or did someone lie to me

Because I got elvira with all non ranked monsters

[little berry]

U have to buy the legends pass in order to get the no rank requirements it’s only for that one warmaster so this month is for thalassa u can get with unranked monsters and at a discounted cost if u buy the legends pass

[mystic trench]

Ohhhh

[little berry]

guys, i dont have many legendary water, i have 4 water legendarys currently, and lately completed the first thalassa floor, the only problem is, how do i get rank 1 water monsters... i dont have any ranked

[frozen zodiac]

Use water cells or elementium

[little berry]

oaky

[vapid sleet]

How good is Lucifire the Hopefreezer

[little berry]

Not very good

She’s pretty good

Best offensive fire attacker :Beenut:

hopefreezer big yop

[frozen zodiac]

Good for wars where fire is a restriction, or dragon since a lot of dragons are fire

[hazy cedar]

Deberían mejorar los nemesis y warmasters se supone son los más fuertes del juego y los mounstros nuevos les ganan fáciles además de que los warmasters son muy difíciles de conseguir ya no sirven

[little berry]

@hazy cedar go to #español

[hazy cedar]

They should improve the nemesis and warmasters are supposed to be the strongest in the game and new monsters earn them easy in addition to the fact that warmasters are very difficult to get no longer serve

[little berry]

Why there’s no reason they had there time when they dominated the game the nemesis like over 2 years ago and some of the warmasters still dominate the game

There bound to get outclassed

[unique narwhal]

Here they come

[fiery skiff]

Whoever has r4 thalassa. What other monsters do u use with her?

[unkempt holly]

Any mega taunt and control immune attacker like hook or ugluk

Go great as a team

But r4 thal herself makes any team op

[hazy escarp]

I prefer hook as his anticipation ruins the ai for monsters like thalassa, madam, and pump

[fiery skiff]

Alright nice. Thank you. I use hook thalassa and eisul but I didn't know if ppl used anyone else

[hazy escarp]

That’s what I use

[fiery skiff]

Nice.

@hazy escarp worth? And than I think I can get enough to get r4 eisul

So r4 eisul r4 hook and r4 thalassa

[hazy escarp]

Yes

Prioritize R5 hook tho

Over R4 eisul

[fiery skiff]

Yeah? Alright. R5 hook will have more use

[hazy escarp]

Yes

More damage is better than slightly more speed for eisul

[little berry]

:Bigbrain:

[fiery skiff]

Alright nice. @hazy escarp thanks

[hazy escarp]

Np

[fiery skiff]

Thalassas ultimate is a lot more common than most monsters

[frosty dove]

que

[hazy escarp]

That

[frosty dove]

ah

[little berry]

Any ideas on how much will the nemesis path cost?

[little berry]

It’s probably gonna be impossible to get him f2p but u can get some cells same thing for Zyla most likely

[quick hill]

i already have zyla so i just need 60 cells

getting the egg would be nice too but its not priority

[drowsy stream]

These were Llum Costs
32 Cells: 1875
40 Cells: 2485
50 Cells: 3280
60 Cells: 4320
75 Cells: 4955
Scroll: 5680
100 Cells: 6505

Warthak MS is better than Llum base form so may be more expensive lol

[velvet frost]

Last time I got zyla egg and 60 cells.
But this time I'm want to get nemesis path it will possible or not 🤔

P2f

[little berry]

i spent money

to get zyla

and i got 103 cells of her

.-.

Why

[hoary dew]

Ngl its impossible f2p but you could probably get ~ 40 50 cells

[haughty lance]

Is there going to be another nemesis days this month

Or before the limited time book ends

[little berry]

Next month

[pseudo jolt]

@little berry why do you spend?

[upper cloak]

I got r1 imigbo ftp so I’m happy

Will help with Thalassa dungeon

[frigid smelt]

good job

[fiery skiff]

Finally

[broken venture]

noice

[fiery skiff]

(ˊᗜˋ)ᵗᑋᵃᐢᵏ ᵞᵒᵘ

[meager gate]

nice

[fierce stone]

Worth it for mountainspillter?

[meager gate]

YES

[barren arch]

Yes.

[frigid smelt]

hi helen

[cunning bough]

Idk if I should get him

Been here for a while

He’s a good earth monster, but idk if I should keep waiting for a better one the future

[meager gate]

If you can,use the cells for Ugluk rather than Warthak

[hot stirrup]

What’s the best skill set up for a r0 ruby?

[meager gate]

High Wave,Ruby Implosion,Total Exhaustion,Major Exhaustion

[hot stirrup]

What about runes? All ts?

[meager gate]

Yeah

[little berry]

Hey guys, there's Warthak Mountainsplitter's Path, I wish I'll get a lot of cells

Good luck .

NO ANGRY,BUT ONLY EVIL SMILES 😂 !

[sharp jewel]

How do I beat this node.?

The only other nature monster I have is Osur

And I have 1 rune slot on Silverleaf

Nvm

I won

I got 2 ults in a row

Aight

What monsters should I rank up?

I want to rank up hyperia and warrior

But idk what else

[fiery skiff]

Bruh

silver osur gurlik / @sharp jewel

U can actually win quite easily

[sharp jewel]

I won lol

With the help of RNG

Thanks btw

[little berry]

@sharp jewel kill rag and zahra first

[sharp jewel]

That's what I did

[little berry]

Did u win

[sharp jewel]

Yup

[fiery skiff]

@sharp jewel good luck on 2nd floor

If u thought floor 1 last node was tough wait til floor 2 last node

[broken venture]

rag dungeon hardest??

i went through thalassa easily

[fiery skiff]

More than just 1 element so yeah

[sharp jewel]

Thanks Puppy

[fiery skiff]

👍

[chilly sigil]

Also the final battle does consist of 2 warmasters, which can be really annoying with there effects

[wet wharf]

More then one

Theres like 6

[dull bramble]

The packs for nemesis cells for individual nemesis do they cost 50 souls for 25 cells

[meager gate]

yee

[drowsy stream]

I finally have enough cells to pick my own nemesis monster . I couldn’t decide so gotta wait till next time. Any suggestions

I got him out of a box from monsterwood

[frigid smelt]

how

[drowsy stream]

After 20 days u get 20 video tokens just like it is now

Your everywhere kinda like Oreo

Orko

[frigid smelt]

oHH

[drowsy stream]

Haven’t used him yet don’t really no how to make him work

[quick hill]

wow

😐

imagine being that lucky

couldn't be me

[drowsy stream]

🙄

Whose the best nemesis u can get for cells

[frigid smelt]

pc

[hazy escarp]

Wait

How did you get him?

His element hasn’t come out in the video master chests

[frigid smelt]

hacCCS

[broken venture]

its called lies

[remote orchid]

nv

m

[velvet spindle]

[carmine mantle]

Can we use elementium after 80 cells on nemesis

[pseudo jolt]

@carmine mantle yes

[carmine mantle]

I got 60 and i have 50+ nemesis souls so i can craft him right??

[frigid smelt]

what nemesis

warthak?

[carmine mantle]

Yes

[frigid smelt]

yes u can craft him

[pseudo jolt]

Yep

[frigid smelt]

so congrats on ur mountainsplitter @carmine mantle

[carmine mantle]

Now i got 2 nemesis @frigid smelt thanks

[frigid smelt]

[carmine mantle]

NSD comes everymonth right?

[frigid smelt]

uhh idk actually

[pseudo jolt]

@carmine mantle

For nsd you need ruby or Sammy

Those are a must need

Plus r3+

And x runes

[carmine mantle]

I don't want to do nsd

But i need to cash in those souls

To complete ch5

[pseudo jolt]

Nemesis days is like next month

[carmine mantle]

🙁

[drowsy stream]

The book won't go till then tho so you'll get it

[high abyss]

will go*

[little berry]

Ok

[cerulean herald]

Guys. Should I save up my orbs for Elvira dungeon next month because I need to rank up my Wyrmlad to r3 or go for r1 thalassa and I also need to rank up my hook to r3?

[stark quartz]

What is the team you want each for?

[unkempt holly]

Getting wyrm to r3 is more important than hook, but is the wm dungeon the only way for you to get the cells? Breeding light epics might be better imo

[cerulean herald]

Yea but idk how long would it take. I need 220 more light cells

[cerulean herald]

Nvm. I wont be able to complete thalassa rank 1 unless i pull of a miracle with 3 attackers. R2 hook r3 ursus r3 lord

[little berry]

that should be enough to get you through to a r1 thal, the wm dungeons aren't that hard.

i got r1 thal with r4 cryotan and some rares

That’s hot

[magic thicket]

R4 cryotan

[little berry]

[pale salmon]

[vernal whale]

Is Llum the Iron Leader good?

[meager gate]

Yes

[frozen zodiac]

It’s not as good as magic Llum but better than light llum

[inland trail]

Best light attacker

[little berry]

Isn’t elvira the best light attacker when she’s ranked

[magic thicket]

Eww

Elvira too expensive

[little berry]

Ur to expensive

[inland trail]

Llum has an elemental advantage and does more damage

[little berry]

I guess

[hazy escarp]

Metal llum best light attacker

:goatbreh:

[magic thicket]

@little berry I still didn't get my first r4 wm

F2p...

[little berry]

Well because ur playing f2p

[inland trail]

I'm f2p and got two R4 WMs with a R2 and R0 :wowie:

[unkempt coral]

When @inland trail

[fickle acorn]

Cause your team carrying you.

[unkempt coral]

@fickle acorn

[fickle acorn]

[inland trail]

NSD Alex :wowie:

[meager gate]

:wowie2:

[fickle acorn]

[vernal cedar]

[small bison]

Anyone have the battle conditions of Ragnerok for each floor please?

[umbral ocean]

Is it possible for me to beat her

I need some help those are my best water monsters

[delicate jasper]

Ursur power @umbral ocean

[umbral ocean]

She gets denied and dies

Thalassa is too fast and keeps mega freezing

@cedar sable what runes do i put

[delicate jasper]

In mistery i think that this

In nauti this

[umbral ocean]

and ursus?

[delicate jasper]

And in ursur this or also this

[umbral ocean]

my runes are way too low

:v

how

how do i get level 7+ runes

1116?

Huh

what do u mean im sorry i cant understand

Will it work tho?

what happens otherwise

[delicate jasper]

25% to do a lvl 6 and 75% of do a individual strengh

[umbral ocean]

huh

i think im getting a level 5 rune

4hrs

:I

[delicate jasper]

Is a 7 i think

Oh

[umbral ocean]

in in 4 chances

[delicate jasper]

I think that is before use a lvl 1 1 1 2

[umbral ocean]

?

[delicate jasper]

And after 1 1 1 6

[umbral ocean]

what does that

Do 1 1 1 2 before i do 1 1 1 6?

[delicate jasper]

I think that is mlre probability if the firts crafting was failed

[umbral ocean]

is ther another thalasa kill other than gorg

Oh ok

[delicate jasper]

😅

Im stupid

[umbral ocean]

isnt thee going to be a hookui event

[delicate jasper]

I think that houksi can do the Dungeon

[umbral ocean]

is there another water monster that can use shock

[delicate jasper]

Kozorg

[umbral ocean]

okok

is the war rune chests worth it

@cedar sable what happens if i do 3 3 3 6

o

oh

ok

[wary stump]

Anyone know when the nemesis chest comes out

[meager gate]

Probably next month

[high abyss]

why is rag all weird and long now

[inland trail]

Because he suddenly turrned into a gummy bear

[high abyss]

how is rag animated more like thalassa than thalassa is animated like thalassa

[little berry]

Cuz it’s not

[frank gorge]

When is next nemesis days

[little berry]

Like 2 weeks from now

[sharp jewel]

Can you use elemental/elementium on a nemesis after you get 80 of his cells?

[frosty dove]

Yeah

[sharp jewel]

Thanks

That means next nemesis days I'm getting wartak the mountainsplitter

[frosty dove]

That's nice.

[sharp jewel]

Could he and hyperia both R1 win the 2nd floor of rag?

And warthak with good strength runes?

[pseudo jolt]

Probably

[little berry]

Yes

[high abyss]

rags new skin looking mega cool

[coral shale]

Sadly his idle animation doesn't

[sleek geyser]

what are nemesis souls used for?

[little berry]

To get nemesis on nemesis days

[sleek geyser]

oh ok

[fickle acorn]

There's an event every two months called Nemesis Days and you can spend Nemesis Souls during the event.

To get Nemesis monsters

[sleek geyser]

so to buy nemesis monsters

[fickle acorn]

Yes

[little berry]

I’m pretty sure it’s every month not every 2 months

[sleek geyser]

ok

ive been playing for like a year now but i stopped playing for a few months and i come back and i get hit by all this new stuff XD

[little berry]

Ok

[sleek geyser]

does one soul equal one cell or is it like 5 souls per cell?

[little berry]

No those ones are for the elites and u get 25 cells per 40 souls I think

[sleek geyser]

ok

[pseudo jolt]

@sleek geyser it’s one nemesis soul equals to half a cell of a nemesis

Since it cost 50 souls for 25 cells

[sleek geyser]

so 2 souls one cell?

[pseudo jolt]

Yep

And so on

[sleek geyser]

but do u know the deals or do they change

like can i get one cell for 2 souls?

if i really wanted to?

[pseudo jolt]

Nop

[sleek geyser]

ok ty

[sharp jewel]

Anyone know when the next nemesis days are coming?

[meager gate]

Probably next month

Umm...Why does Ragnarok now look like an inflatable gummy bear?

[obtuse sequoia]

Is it 50 Nemesis souls for 25 cells or 50 Elite souls for 25 cells🤔

And nemesis is 50 souls = 15 cells

[little berry]

Elite and nemesis, same prices
50 souls for 25 cells for each group

[obtuse sequoia]

Thank you so much

[little berry]

Welcome
Another thing to note
During Warmaster months
When a certain month features a certain warmaster, during Nemesis days, the Nemesis of the corresponding element will have an offer:
50 cells for 80 souls
(so 100 cells for 160 souls)
While the other nemesis monsters are the normal (25 cells for 50 souls)
So 100 souls for 50 cells and 200 souls for a Nemesis (100 cells)

But since Ragnorak's month is next
I don't know if Nemesis days will have something different

[obtuse sequoia]

Thanks, another question when does nemesis days usually start?

[little berry]

I'm not exactly sure
Either the first or second week of the month

At least I think

[obtuse sequoia]

Thank you that helps alot im trying to complete the last page of the christrmas book and i have em all except for skull crusher(by i have em all i mean i am confident that ill get them on future events) so im worried i hope they dont start at january 18 or im doomed

[little berry]

You are welcome
I hope Nemesis days starts soon

Good luck

[little berry]

What

[stoic path]

Best rankable with elementium monsters to use with thalassa 5r and ragnarok 4r?

[unkempt holly]

Maybe a mega taunt like eisul

[umbral ocean]

I listen to your tips but still too slow what do i do to beat herr

[little berry]

do you have another monster ranked or better than mystery

?

[umbral ocean]

No but can u suggest one that gets the job done and easy to . get

;-; gotta save gems and remove those runes too AHHHH

[sleek raft]

I passed it with General Thetys, Kihaku and Cryotan.
Thalassa was focused on Cryotan (Because Freeze Immunity), if you have a chance to apply Olympus, Thetys will drain her stams then another attacker can kill her easily.
Kihaku was used for life/stamina regeneration, he could give Thallassa 2 possessed turns too.
Thetys must go first.

[umbral ocean]

So i need a tank

how do i get him

:v

i wasnt on when he came out

[sleek raft]

Or you can give possession to her.

[umbral ocean]

Speeds too slow

even with more runes than her

im going to try activate the rune temple

[sleek raft]

Give all speed runes to denier, all team speed to supporter. (Rank 8 on speed is recommended)

[umbral ocean]

easy to say

;-;

ill try get a cryotan

[sleek raft]

She is on level 110 (3 speed runes + 4 team speed runes).
Your denier must be ranked up to at least 110.

The weakness point of Thallassa is stamina. The strongest point of her is speed.

[mortal sphinx]

Which Samael is the best ?

[velvet spindle]

Plague carrier

[delicate jasper]

Samael with iron attacks @mortal sphinx

Name Samael plague carrier how said Primarina

[mortal sphinx]

Oh awesome ! Thanks

[delicate jasper]

No problem!

[winged ingot]

Do you guys know what element will be the next month warmaster dungeon?

[little berry]

Ragnork

it's ragnarok

But the monster inside the legends pass is a nature elite

[winged ingot]

Ooh nice

Well since i need rock monsters i guess I'm saving keys for another month

[little berry]

U mean orbs

[winged ingot]

Nono, monsterwood keys

[little berry]

Oh

I have no clue what element there gonna do for ragnork months in the monster wood chest thing

it'll probably give a random legendary

[proven plaza]

worst warmaster?

[inland trail]

Necro

[frozen crane]

tfw nisael is just a better necro

actually now that i think about it

nisael's ai might suck

cuz he has a similar moveset to necro iirc

[little berry]

Better sammy instead of necro?

[bold sigil]

Guys how hard is thalassa dungeon? My team would be R1 ursus, R1 imigbo and R0 frosilka

It would be my first attempt to a dungeon

[inland trail]

He's not better than sammy though

[little berry]

I thought he was

[tacit pike]

sammy best reviver

ruby best nemesis in my opinion

[delicate jasper]

Yes

Wathak dangerous attacker

[tacit pike]

faraday used to be special with anticipation then came the

[little berry]

@bold sigil You'll be fine you got 3 good monsters so you'll definitely make it but you'll have to rank Frosilka if you don't do the dungeon during Thalassa's month because then the rank restrictions will be back, I used a rare, an epic and a legendary to do her dungeon and I made it.

[tacit pike]

[bold sigil]

Do I have to buy the pass to avoid the rank restrictions? @little berry

[little berry]

Yes @bold sigil

[bold sigil]

So, doing a dungeon during it's warmaster months gives advantages only if I have tha pass, right?

[little berry]

Yes

[delicate jasper]

If you buy the pass the dungeons have a restriction reduction

For example the node of R1 is also a R0

[bold sigil]

Ok nice. But I don't have the pass 😅

[delicate jasper]

x2

And next pass will be more expensive than this

[bold sigil]

Do you think that nautilus, ursus and imigbo all at R1 will be enough?

[delicate jasper]

Hmm yes

[fickle acorn]

The only benefit related to the Heroic Dungeons with the free pass is that the featured WM dungeon is open for the whole month.

[delicate jasper]

@fickle acorn and the Monster

👀

Of the pass

[fickle acorn]

That's not related to the dungeon.

[delicate jasper]

Oh

Its true

[silver tulip]

so what are the first two floor requirements for raggy?

also was it 2200 orbs for a r0 warmaster?

[little berry]

Nature and earth

[silver tulip]

is it nature, then earth?

[little berry]

yep

nature floor 1, earth floor 2

[silver tulip]

hmm

and 2200 orbs?

[little berry]

should be around there

2.2-2.4k-ish

might be 2.3k

i cant remember perfectly

[silver tulip]

that sounds about right

yikes, ive only got 850

grind time? maybe

how would petro loa, alpha cliviast, and primigenius do for floor 1?

[velvet spindle]

Try to one shot Ragnarok

Then it'll be easy

[silver tulip]

so everything but the last node should be fine?

[raven shell]

which element will be spotlighted during ranaroks month in jan?

[drowsy stream]

Maybe nature not sure but legends pass monster is nature @raven shell

[pseudo jolt]

Nature probs

[raven shell]

so nature will be featured twice?

[drowsy stream]

Most probably

[little berry]

Well if they do nature for ragnorks month then what are they gonna do for warmaster zahra to it just wouldn’t make sense to make nature the spotlighted element twice

[rare halo]

When is the next nemesis thing?

[thorn solar]

Ragnarok is only special elemental, so any monster of legendary class will be fine.
6 floors of his dungeon doesn't have dark elemental, so Dark will be landed on next month 🤔

[frozen zodiac]

When’s the next nemesis days?

[pseudo jolt]

Next month

[frozen zodiac]

Before the end of the book? @pseudo jolt

[little berry]

Probably unless they pull something stupid like not do the nemesis days so people can’t get warthak that easy so they can’t complete the book

[frosty remnant]

Warthak when Ugluk existing practically leaves no reason to run you over him

[little berry]

k

Ok

[little berry]

Purpose is to one shot Earth monsters still :Beenut:

[ember plume]

or nsd

[inland trail]

Also better in war :beenut:

[hazy escarp]

Imagine thinking that

When gortak is better to use in earth

Over both

And even not talking about gortak, I’d still rather use ugluk

[little berry]

Lol warthak is not better in war

[hazy escarp]

^

[drowsy stream]

Warthak MS is kinda better in earth Wars for dark attacks

[green citrus]

On Earth wars

Use Gortak

Earth Hater >>>

Better than the elemental advantage

200% > 50%

[little berry]

Setting up for Earth Hater :Goatbreh:

Gortak and ugluk are just simply better

[hazy escarp]

Most of the time I’d expect koralle/hyperia on defense so taunt hater > dark moves

And even then, ugluk is just a better attacker

And gortak is a better monster

[inland trail]

Hyperia :WeirdChamp:

But if the other team uses warthaks/gortaks/ugluks then they won't be as useful as warthak
That's what we did against GH and it gave us the win

[hazy escarp]

Wait

What just happened?

[little berry]

Warthak > ugluk all day everyday

[hazy escarp]

:smolbrain:

[little berry]

@little berry no

Yes

[glacial quiver]

ugluk is better

even gortak is

[pseudo jolt]

I find warthak better than gortak

[glacial quiver]

in some situations yes

overall gortak better

[pseudo jolt]

Plus it’s easier to have it ranked

[fading spire]

Your all wrong rockilla is the best he has attuned so when a earth monster attacks him in earth wars he gains stamina back

[hollow wind]

The best is Firesaur you mean ?

[fading spire]

We are talking earth

And the best out of all the monsters is vip treezard

[little berry]

:spongefunny:

[green citrus]

Lies

The best V.I.P. is Vapwhirl

[inland trail]

I don't think you get it
VIP treezard actually exists

[green citrus]

I do

Bulwark Treezard

[inland trail]

:AAUGH:

[green citrus]

[fiery skiff]

Energizer or supercharge amulet for thalassa?

[frigid smelt]

supercharged

[little berry]

Supercharged

[thorn flax]

a

[fiery skiff]

Thank you

[nova mason]

Serious question. Do you think warthak the mountain splitter will be offered before the end of the Christmas book Bc I have everything else

But not him yet

[unkempt coral]

There might be another nemesis days

[nova mason]

Before the Christmas book ends? You think?

[unkempt coral]

Possibly

[nova mason]

Bc rn there’s an Elite days

So I’m kinda worrying

[unkempt coral]

There might be one

Not for definite

[nova mason]

Spent money to get those monsters might end up being for nothing. Alright thanks

[drowsy stream]

@nova mason I'm pretty sure there's be. It's like once a month and if elite days happened in 26th December, last week of December, nemesis days is most probably in the second week if January and book lasts till the third one

[nova mason]

Thank you

@drowsy stream

Appreciated

[drowsy stream]

You're welcome

[fiery skiff]

This how close I am and how many orbs I have. Do I have enough for r5? Or should I just save for r2 rag? I kinda wanna get rag but if I can get r5 thalassa I should shouldn't I? Since it's her month

[tacit pike]

i would do as much thlassa as u could

then save orbs till u can get her R5

cuz R5 thlassa is amazing

Rag is great unranked

Thlassa needs ranking

[fiery skiff]

I have her r4 so she's ranked.

[tacit pike]

id still get her R5

cuz speed

[fiery skiff]

But is what I have enough?

Cuz if not imma just use for rag

[tacit pike]

i dont think its enough

but id still do it

cuz discount rn

[fiery skiff]

Decisions decisions

[unkempt holly]

Not enough

[unkempt holly]

But still get thal first

[frozen zodiac]

Last nemmie days was early this month so prob will be here before pass ends

[frozen zodiac]

@little berry this guy postin this in like a lot of channels

[frozen crane]

pass ends tomorrow

the discount probably ends with it

thalassa's dungeon stays but no more discount after today i think

[frigid smelt]

epic

[fiery skiff]

Sad

[tacit pike]

on the bright side

ragnarok yaaay

[odd temple]

epic

[pseudo jolt]

Nice r0 thalassa

[pale jay]

Is this a good setup for R0 Thalassa ? (Both runes & skillset)

& is this a good PvP team setup also?

[little berry]

Why have 2 deniers

[pale jay]

Because I don’t have any good support monsters (well, I don’t have any that can compete w current meta)

[frosty dove]

okay

[pale jay]

okay

[cerulean marsh]

@pale jay wyrmlad is support, just remove thalassa, she is absolute trash at rank 0, use an attacker instead

[still lion]

How do you get into the nem dungeon?

[little berry]

What mew dungeon ?

[still lion]

The war master nemesis dungeon

[frozen crane]

pogchamp the discount stays

[thorn solar]

@still lion Nemesis is required. That's all.

[balmy magnet]

How they going to change rag. Dungeon during legend pass when his skin show up

[little berry]

what will be next warmaster battle pass???

[neon pagoda]

@little berry Ragnarok

[little berry]

nice

[frozen crane]

they put all the good wms first

[drowsy stream]

So we won't get to collect orbs

[pseudo jolt]

Wow

[fickle acorn]

Woah

[frosty dove]

Nice

[wary stump]

😮

[frozen crane]

slightly worse than the free llum all of us have gotten a while ago but gz

[little berry]

[whole pumice]

how sway

ur unbelievable lucky

[little berry]

[high narwhal]

Nemesis

From xmas chest

[sage marlin]

[unkempt coral]

@frozen crane how is it

[little berry]

how much is each warmaster?

and the 2nd floor individualy?

[junior lynx]

It's 1.4k

[strong wagon]

e

[wide magnet]

e?

[fiery skiff]

e.

[strong wagon]

e?!

[frank gorge]

When is next nemesis days starting

[strong wagon]

you ruined the chain

shame

[frank gorge]

How

[strong wagon]

shame

[frank gorge]

🙄🙄🙄🙄

[strong wagon]

shame.....

[unkempt holly]

The nemesis days should be either the 1st or 2nd week of Jan @frank gorge

[frozen crane]

judging by the past few nem days, it should probably be the 1st week now

no

[wide magnet]

yes

[meager gate]

No chains

[west burrow]

o

[little berry]

@sharp jewel No chains.

[magic thicket]

@little berry hi

O it's #monster-discussion

[sleek estuary]

Can I beat floor 2 sherezar dungeon with gelotron,shademoon and son cookie?

[rose heart]

With the right runes, (probably strength for all of them) you could win

What month will Necromancer's month be?

[frozen crane]

u can beat sherry's floor 2 with anything

his dungeon is already stupidly easy

[native wasp]

Literally beat it with a rare, epic and shademoon

Its that easy

[winter dust]

I'm new-ish to the game (3 months). I cleared the first floor of the Warmaster Thalassa Dungeon. Next time it comes around (which is how long?) will I be able to clear it again and get 40 more cells, or will I start on the 2nd floor?