monster-discussion

[jagged lake]

I have enough orbs to get raggy and I have remntar who should I get next I was think Elvira since she’s gonna have a discount

[unkempt coral]

Thalassa r1

[hazy escarp]

Ragnarok @jagged lake

[unkempt coral]

She means after that @hazy escarp

[hazy escarp]

Oh

Then get R1 rag

If you can

@jagged lake

[jagged lake]

Damn that mess up I’m a man

Can get rag r1

[hazy escarp]

Do that

He gets his TT

[jagged lake]

Can’t

After rag who should o get

[unkempt coral]

Thalassa r1

[jagged lake]

So Elvira no good

[unkempt coral]

Meh

Too much per

[jagged lake]

K but I have neobuki

[unkempt coral]

So

[frozen crane]

well now that wm discounts r a thing its time for me to not care about the game until thalassa and rag month come up

[little berry]

Same

[little berry]

Will thalassa dungeon appear tomorrow?

[fiery skiff]

Yes

Maybe

[fading shell]

It's Elvira Remntar time, isn't it??

[little berry]

@fading shell nah

[verbal sky]

When do the dungeons start again ?

[little berry]

Today

[signal spruce]

Guys I have 2300 orbs rn and would like to have my first warmaster

Ragnarok or Elvira ?

[little berry]

Ragnarok

Elvira & Gortak dungeons start?

[ember plume]

elvira will be throughout the month

[serene goblet]

Does anyone knows when the next nemesis breeding event is

[hazy escarp]

No

[spice pine]

When did they Change it from needing a rank 2 monster for 3rd floor to letting it be unranked

[tame beacon]

within the last hour 😄

its part of elvira month

[spice pine]

So that will go away after this month

[tame beacon]

yes

Unless there's another spotlight next month or something

[spice pine]

Ok

Should I go for Elvira, or ragnarok

Or try to rank up thalassa to r1

[frozen crane]

are they doing spotlights every month

[elfin magnet]

I thinl this might be permanent

**think

[misty elm]

Would be great

[elfin magnet]

A 10% discount with the warmasters is really huge

[opaque wagon]

PogChamp

[little berry]

Can vodyanoy Gorg and mystery get me thalassa

[velvet spindle]

Yes

[misty elm]

Easily

[signal spruce]

Can a 110 lighterium and a 100 cloud get me Elvira ?

And a 90 daganth

Or should I get ragnarok

Hummm

[misty elm]

Maybe

If you want Elvira, now is the best time to get her

[signal spruce]

I have 1 month right ?

So can farm 276 gems and get lady solaris

But I really hesitate btwn ragnarok and Elvira

[tawny oxide]

what u hesitating for ?

ragnarok way better

[signal spruce]

Yeah but this is the best time I can get Elvira

[little berry]

First warmaster (:

Gratz

Thanks bro!

[sharp jewel]

First Warmaster!

[frosty dove]

nice nice

[little berry]

Good Job

[frozen crane]

next month hes gonna come back and show his first r5 warmaster

[hazy escarp]

Lol

[signal spruce]

Is ragnarok dungeon next week ?

[little berry]

Scroll a lil up to see the WM rotation calendar and you have your answer

@signal spruce

[signal spruce]

Ok ty

Who is best unranked ragnarok or Thalassa

[hazy escarp]

Ragnarok

[frozen crane]

accurate.png
credit to potwats

[signal spruce]

Hahaha si true

[coarse bear]

How much is the elvira dungeons floor with the sale ????

[frozen crane]

10% discount

if u want the warmaster at r0 thats 2070 orbs

[dry sierra]

The other floors have more discount i think

[frozen crane]

i thought it was 10 throughout

[coarse bear]

I want her r2 and I have her r0 already so how much will it cost ??

[frozen crane]

probably 5310?

not sure

5310 assuming u didnt start floor 3 yet

[coarse bear]

Hmm cool ok thanks

[sand coral]

Floors 1-3 are 10% off, floors 4 and 5 are 15% off, and floor 6 is 20% off for the Elvira dungeon

[frozen crane]

ah ok so its less than 5310

lets see. 2180 + 3500(.85) which is about 2180 + 2975

[hazy escarp]

@frozen crane didn’t credit me or pit?

Nice

[frozen crane]

oh

credit to potwat

not to u tho u nop deserve credit

[coarse bear]

Hmm so is it worth getting her r2 or just wait til the ragnarok sale time

[frozen crane]

rag is gonna be months later

prob towards the end

[hazy escarp]

I made the original image

[frozen crane]

so

[hazy escarp]

He made it better

[frozen crane]

i still nop giv u credit

[coarse bear]

Does rag goes from nature, earth, fire, metal, then dark ?

[hazy escarp]

No

[dry sierra]

Magic

Last

[hazy escarp]

It’s nature, earth, lightning, fire, metal, magic

[coarse bear]

Oh then great

[little berry]

@frozen crane there is orb discount ?

[fiery skiff]

I wish

[ancient spear]

WOW this took forever

[frosty dove]

Lmao

[little berry]

Nice

[mossy sorrel]

Is the new requirements in WM dungeons permanent?

[little berry]

At this point, it better be. The damage is already done anyways - Thalassa everywhere.

[mossy sorrel]

U right cuz I also want a r1 ragg

[fading shell]

Can somebody help me with this node? Floor 3, 2 before Thalassa

Please tag me

[high abyss]

how are you having trouble

lol

[tawny oxide]

it's really not easy

you get a skill mirror which lasts forever and can't be removed

[high abyss]

i beat that node by being slower than them

and made them attack the skill mirror first

[neon umbra]

^

ez

[high abyss]

one thing you dont want to do is go first

[magic thicket]

@little berry @mossy sorrel I think they are planning to make new exclusive monster category like vip nemesis and wm

Maybe wm pet

Which could completely outclassed these wms

BruH

[quick scaffold]

Pets can never outclass their master

Though if its some sort of beast..it could be

[mossy sorrel]

Uria's pet is a better attacker then his master General Uria tho so you can't say anything

[inland trail]

He's not necessarily a better monster though

[little berry]

bruh

Urias Pet > General Uria in every single way

[inland trail]

Uria has more life, which is the only stat that matters, and has better relic slots

[mossy sorrel]

More life is all that matters why lol is he a tank? Both are attackers and uria pet has better skills and without good skills depending on only good relic slot doesn't seem that good to me

[inland trail]

Relic slots are very significant, and so is life in this case
Uria's pet is just very fragile and easy to kill

[little berry]

hahaha. Uria might have a better life but the skills of UP are so far superior that it doesn't even matter. I might get myself a UP, maybe even rank him up and slap him on my defense as my attacker since it's pretty trash.

[low sandal]

Just got elvira

[little berry]

Gratz

[low sandal]

Thanks. I might and it was during the warmaster elvira's spotlight event two. Now should I wait for ragnarok or rank up my Thalassa to Rank 1

[little berry]

If you plan to rank up thalassa all the way to rank 4 at least in the near future then sure go ahead otherwise ragnarok is the better option

[frozen crane]

thalassas easier to get anyways

cuz now u can use thalassa

from floors 3-6

great design sp

[neon umbra]

o yop

[fiery skiff]

Bruh

Nice

[frozen crane]

what rank was ur thalassa 2 days ago

[dry sierra]

He still needed the orbs bruh

[frozen crane]

imagine thinking orbs is a problem when u can get 2k+ a month

[dry sierra]

The monsters werent such a problem , at least for me.

[frozen crane]

and thats without spending gems on orbs

[dry sierra]

2k a month is bad

[frozen crane]

on average it should be 3k a month

[dry sierra]

Especially if u plan ranking thal up

[neon umbra]

r2 basically

[dry sierra]

I get 600 from pvp , 1000 from nsd .

Idk where else

Im counting a month

[frozen crane]

300 tbg

[neon umbra]

i had 11.4k orbs saved

[frozen crane]

100 or so from random quests

[neon umbra]

but needed to rank my gorg

[dry sierra]

Not all do nsd

[frozen crane]

also nsd is 1.2k

[dry sierra]

I do it

I counted it as 1k i might not complete it all

[neon umbra]

i waste all my gems on orbs

lololo

[dry sierra]

U do tasks?

[neon umbra]

ios

lolz

[frozen crane]

then that should be another 700-800 orbs a month assuming he doesnt buy gems

[dry sierra]

Surveys?

kek

[neon umbra]

some ye renar

[dry sierra]

I will buy orbs

And get r3 thal next month

Hopefully

[frozen crane]

ill prob be able to rank up thalassa each month but id rather wait for her price to become discounted

[neon umbra]

try getting r4

[frozen crane]

im getting her and rag r5

[neon umbra]

rag r5 soon

im saving

[frozen crane]

my sherry was r5 before they nerfed dungeon requirements

[neon umbra]

its so easy now

[dry sierra]

U just need orbs

Can someone tell me whats orb / gem ratio

[neon umbra]

by twice on discount

110 orbs

[dry sierra]

110 orbs for 42 gems?

[neon umbra]

42 gems

yep

[jagged lake]

@frozen crane how can you get 2k a month

@dry sierra do@surveys even give you a lot of gems

[hazy escarp]

NSD + PvP rewards + daily goals

1200 + 600 + 150

Not 2000, but close enough

That’s not including buying orbs either

@jagged lake

[jagged lake]

Well o get 600 a moth from pvp I wnat to go to legendary 3 and I don’t have nemesis monsters

[dry sierra]

I have android

[jagged lake]

Hahaha nice I don’t

Curse you iOS

Will iOS ever be able to do take

Task

[hazy escarp]

I do monsterwood tasks irl and get tickets to obtain gems

:bigbrain:

[jagged lake]

What are you talking about

Do you mean buying iTunes card

[hazy escarp]

Yop

:wesmart:

[jagged lake]

:Wes think we smart but we dumb cause it’s not the same thing

[gentle moss]

Does all health runes good for elvira?

[hazy escarp]

Heck no

Is best

Even

Is good

But run first two

@gentle moss

[ionic vessel]

x2 team strength and x1 team speed

[frosty dove]

unranked is best

for TS

[hazy escarp]

I doubt he has her ranked

[gentle moss]

@hazy escarp thanks

[hazy escarp]

Np

[solemn brook]

I bet after all the Warmasters pass their months there will be no more Warmasters, just like the nemesis

[little berry]

Wot

[normal pilot]

There are still nemesis

They exist

[ornate oak]

And are still useable

[high abyss]

how much does floor 6 cost

or at least enough for an r4 wm

[round forum]

How many orbs are need to elvira r0 in elvira month?

[little berry]

@high abyss 2.4k orbs for a rank 4 only (from rank 3 > rank 4)

with the discount on it should cost less

[magic thicket]

Yea

[hazy escarp]

Idk why, but I feel like thalassa is next month

[magic thicket]

BruH

[strange mantle]

Is there a nemesis survival dungeon?

[tame beacon]

Its not this weekend

[strange mantle]

Ok thanks

[tawny oxide]

why are people opening the 3rd chest

[slim mango]

3 of them are bad

[short cliff]

Idk i open de 1st chest

[slim mango]

but if I get lucky I will get a good one

[slim mango]

I opend the first one last time

[tawny oxide]

first chest by far the best

[short cliff]

I want chiron but bad luck xd

[slim mango]

I have ruby

[tawny oxide]

same

chiron wat

[short cliff]

Chiron the Ruby

[tawny oxide]

xiron*

[short cliff]

Ok pro

[tawny oxide]

if you want ruby then why didn't you save up your souls ?

[short cliff]

I have only 100 to get chiron i need 200 souls

And its very dificult to get 200 is a lot of gems

[tawny oxide]

very big mistake buying the chest

have fun with your trash nem

[short cliff]

Shut Up bot

Yo are trash men

[tawny oxide]

o nop

[short cliff]

I have 7000k gems

😂😂

[serene meteor]

sure you do

[tawny oxide]

kek

[short cliff]

But i go get thalassa or rangnarok with these gems 😂🤣

[tawny oxide]

ok have fun

kek

[short cliff]

Bot 😂

[dry sierra]

U can get r5 thal

With 7k gems

[tawny oxide]

boi who u calling bot

[short cliff]

Yeah but first i need 130 water Monsters

[serene meteor]

you have gems

get them

😂

[tawny oxide]

no u don't need them

115 is ok but hey am the bot

[short cliff]

I know bot please shut Up

Al bot d sab

😂😂

[serene meteor]

This guy makes me hard cringe

[tawny oxide]

same

kek go back to dc

[short cliff]

it seems to bother you that I have gems and you don't😂 😂

[serene meteor]

I could care less about your gems

[tawny oxide]

i have 3 gems

[short cliff]

I dont play DC is for bots like you men

[tawny oxide]

let's fight then

[short cliff]

Go fight tabon diemak😂😂😀

[serene meteor]

He's too scared

[tawny oxide]

tabon diemak ?

[short cliff]

But i have 7000k gems😂😂

[serene meteor]

Old pic

but forgot to post

[tawny oxide]

then getting chiron the ruby shouldn't be problem huh ?

[short cliff]

😂😂😂 go get the souls on grand duels noob @serene meteor

[serene meteor]

Nah

I got gems from tasks

And I'm not doing trashy duels

[short cliff]

Yeah becuase u are noob and loses all of them

[ember plume]

No because hes not an idiot

and knows the concept of rng

[serene meteor]

Yup

And no warm ups

[dry sierra]

Yo

Trashy kid

[fiery skiff]

Lol

[dry sierra]

Stop

[serene meteor]

He won't tho

[tawny oxide]

be aware

[fiery skiff]

Nah let him continue his little outburst

[tawny oxide]

he has 7000k gems

[fiery skiff]

It's funny

[serene meteor]

😂

[short cliff]

😂😂 all kids xd

[tawny oxide]

i know right ? 😂😂

[serene meteor]

Funny that you call us kids with your age not being over 12

[short cliff]

Hahaha im 19 kid

[serene meteor]

Yeah as if

[short cliff]

But continue doing ridiculus haha

[ember plume]

ridiculous*

[serene meteor]

If you were really 19 you would be showing signs of intelligence

[fiery skiff]

Like aliens?

[serene meteor]

Can you not

[short cliff]

I speak spanish kid

[serene meteor]

So?

I speak another language as my main one too

Doesn't make you special being spanish

[tawny oxide]

i speak 3 languages kid

[ember plume]

@short cliff #español old man

[short cliff]

And i see the english community is much toxis than spanish

[dry sierra]

I speak 4

But still makes u look dumb

[tawny oxide]

currently learning a 4th one

[short cliff]

But i dont asked you 😂😂

[dry sierra]

Oh k close this convo

[short cliff]

I dont wanna know your Life kid

[dry sierra]

I dont need ur permission to talk

[hazy escarp]

@short cliff fite

[short cliff]

Bb kids i dont wanna spend my time more with bots like you

😂😂😝

[tawny oxide]

ok byee

[serene meteor]

Bye

Go somewhere where someone actually asked for you

[serene meteor]

Lmao

Makes alot of sense

[fiery skiff]

Rip. He wasted 23 minutes blasting nonsense

[short cliff]

Go continue doing ridiculous more bots

[verbal sky]

no nemesis dungeon?

[inland trail]

It's next week

[hard wren]

Where can I find what floors require which element for WM rag?

[little berry]

To me, Nemesis days start at 12:00 while the dungeon starts at 15:00... Sooo in an hour.

[tawny oxide]

nop

[inland trail]

But it's not in the calendar

[tawny oxide]

nsd next week

[inland trail]

@hard wren

[little berry]

They never split them up.

The days and the dungeon I mean.

[hard wren]

Thank you a lot sir!

[tawny oxide]

@little berry nsd will be next week because the devs think it's too early

[little berry]

Also, it wasn't in the calendar last time either until a late fix. If they wanted to omit the dungeon, I think they wouldn't mention it in the news.

Meh. Whatever happens, happens. Little difference to me.

[inland trail]

The earlier the better in this case, so we can hope they forgot agian :OkayChamp:

[tame beacon]

The nemesis survival dungeon is not this week

[little berry]

@tame beacon Then why did they put up the nemesis days + why didn't they take it out of the announcement? It makes no sense.

[covert dune]

He good?

[little berry]

She is the best form of Lucifire.

[tame beacon]

Because nemesis days is the chests part

Nemesis survival dungeon happened to line up with that before, but not this time

[covert dune]

Oh thats good to hear

[little berry]

Well, they are still telling us to drop by the dungeon xD

[inland trail]

One of the best fires as well, and one of 2 with PER if you value that

[covert dune]

Ok thank you

[tame beacon]

That part is unfortunately an error 😅

[little berry]

A very unfortunate error.

[tame beacon]

NSD will still come in the future, don't worry 🙂

[dry sierra]

Andrej u forgot that Nitro exists?

[inland trail]

Nitro isn't one of the best fires so no, I didn't

[dry sierra]

Ur just a "nemesis fan boi" and cant accept that nitro is the best fire , besides that u say luci hf his , lol.

[inland trail]

Don't get that last part and the first part isn't true either

[little berry]

X

[dry sierra]

U said luci hf best fire monster but K.

[inland trail]

The era when nemeses dominated was the worst time I had in ML, why would I be their fanboy

[dry sierra]

Who is the best fire then? kek

[dry sierra]

Can u just answer my question?

[inland trail]

Sunblast in my opinion

[tawny oxide]

depends on rank tbh

[dry sierra]

😳 k , im outta here

[inland trail]

Good

[tawny oxide]

i'd say above r3 nitro is better, under r3 sun is best

[little berry]

Nitro maybe best in PvP

Not in wars tho when he has no TT to make up for his turn of setting up

Nop strong on defense in either tho

[tawny oxide]

r4 nitro good for wyrm rag bases

[inland trail]

All my opinions are strictly based on war BTW

[little berry]

:DrakeYea:

[dry sierra]

War wise if nitro has a TT like sammy / zahra / madam , it will work

If enemy has anticipation u need an tank

...

[inland trail]

All that is situational in wars

Also ruby and sherry are generally better and used more than madam, sammy can even make bad monsters look good and zahra is zahra

[little berry]

Everyone is good behind a Sammy and Dunn tho

[ember plume]

@little berry umm not good in wars?

[dry sierra]

The point was for TT

[ember plume]

He can be a denier with sherry amulet

deals a truck load of damage

and on top that can cda and ruin the enemy team

[inland trail]

He's also about extra turns and shares an element with a poor man's faraday

[ember plume]

He also is artifact

so practically immune to marquis' way of killing monsters

[inland trail]

He also has teammates who aren't artifacts

[ember plume]

Your team will be dead by then

[inland trail]

If you lose at least one coin it's a success for the defense

[ember plume]

well

If only marquis targeted the other monsters

and chose not to try to stun nitro

at the first turn

[quartz slate]

Which is the best Némésis chest ? The 1, 2, 3 ?

[little berry]

1

[quartz slate]

Is a good chest ?

[restive fog]

Opened two of these chests and got two hydratilas

And they’re my only nemesis

[little berry]

Oof

[restive fog]

Btw it’s the worst version of hydratila

As if it wasn’t bad enough

[hazy escarp]

No

Lightning is worse

Water is probably the best one in all honesty

[little berry]

@quartz slate Good indeed

[hazy escarp]

What happened to that guy with the diamond in his name?

I couldn’t read it all bc school

Dm me

[storm lion]

Aw yeah. Wyrmlad carried my entire team through floor 2 of the dungeon tbh

[severe spire]

Can I send a video or not ?

[verbal sky]

theres no dem dungeon?

[fiery skiff]

Not this weekend

But next

Supposedly

[quartz burrow]

What is the best faraday to get?

[ember plume]

obscure or discharger

I like obscure

[quartz burrow]

Thx

[inland wing]

Crafting thalassa

[jagged lake]

Nice

[drowsy stream]

[drowsy stream]

Congrats and Same Pinch

[drowsy stream]

Wow 3 slots 😍

[fiery skiff]

Hax

[velvet spindle]

[misty elm]

Baby Faraday is ugly 😄

[mossy sorrel]

Lol yea

Big head with too big eyes

[fiery skiff]

Eyes? I see it as a mask

But maybe eyes

[mossy sorrel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

U dont know? It's weird that Faraday doesn't know about its own baby form

[fiery skiff]

But I'm not Faraday

I'm Færædæy

[mossy sorrel]

Owo

[dapper hinge]

Finally!!!!!

[tawny oxide]

which one is it

[dapper hinge]

Metal Sammy

[little berry]

Gratzz

[fiery skiff]

The elementium tho

[magic thicket]

BruH

I have 880

[inland trail]

My 2nd has like 2274 or something

[high narwhal]

How much coins required for second floor thalasa

[hazy escarp]

1500

2400 floor after that

[small stag]

I have Remntar, Ragnarok, Elvira at the moment.
Sherry and Thalassa floor 1 done.
Have 3000 orbs so can rank 1 WM, or get another.

Which WM is good to get at R1? Or get both Sherry and Thalassa r0..

[hazy escarp]

Ragnarok

[little berry]

I’d rank Thalassa

Both her and Rag are fine options tho

[small stag]

Yes I have been doubting between them the most

For me I can easily see the use with Thalassa. Getting her mega freeze AoE at R1 is nice. (not Abyss I know).
I am not so good in picturing what Ragnarok r1 can do. Of course very strong but how.

TT is nice though.

[hazy escarp]

Ragnarok is op at R1, his TT above his other amazing moves can’t be scoffed at

[small stag]

Very true, and do use him as a support for you denier and attacker and even tank

[hazy escarp]

Yes

Run this

No more failures/death door/blacksmiths masterpiece OR grandmaster’s wisdom OR demon’s flames/archangel’s blessing

[small stag]

Yea, very hard to kill!

[little berry]

Archangels a must imo

NER smol heal, and self evasion big yop

[small stag]

No more failures / archangels blessing / death door / I like the skill mirror skill 🙂

Unfortunately the turn order often doesnt work with skill mirror.. have the same problem with Timmy

That the monster goes again before the opponents go, so skill mirror is gone xD

[tall fog]

Just got myself my third nemesis

[eternal marlin]

Almost beat Nemesis survival with 130 Xiron the Ruby, 115 Hydratila the icebringer, and 115 Nadial the Flooder

Killed Nadiel on last node, then Island Protector instantly killed my entire team with special.

[high abyss]

thats tough

my phone crashed and made me lose

[dry sierra]

@high abyss same lol

Im waiting for support

To give mons back

[ember plume]

@dry sierra sadly support is not there in weekends

Rip

[dry sierra]

@ember plume yeah i saw the automatic message lol , im screwed i hope they give something as compensation.

[ember plume]

40 gems

Oof

[dry sierra]

Only 40?

pepoderp

[fiery skiff]

I'd rather take 1200 orbs

[severe junco]

ok

[strange mantle]

What is rank 3 skill for sherezar? Cooldown activation or de-activation?

[little berry]

Rejuvenation - CD Deactivate

[strange mantle]

Ok thanks

[quartz burrow]

I took the below team into the survival dungeon and only made 20% progress. Can this team at current rank clear the dungeon with better gameplay, runes, & relics? If so what are the recommendations?

[unkempt coral]

Yes

[pseudo jolt]

@quartz burrow rank all to r3

[unkempt coral]

Better faraday strength

[pseudo jolt]

Get another vii for ruby

[unkempt coral]

Better ts

Ts on faraday instead of speed

[pseudo jolt]

And vii + runes for faraday

[unkempt coral]

Better speed on ruby

[quartz burrow]

OK can do the runes and will work on R3. Can I get away with R0 faraday. faraday doesn’t seem worth the investment outside of this from what I can tell.

[jagged lake]

Better relics to

[quartz burrow]

Yeah I just crafted a diamond so was weak on relics. Was my first pass so didn’t have a baseline on difficulty.

Thanks @unkempt coral @pseudo jolt @jagged lake

[pseudo jolt]

@quartz burrow

See armor gaming

He made a tutorial on all of the nodes

[quartz burrow]

Oh sweet. Will check that out. Thanks @pseudo jolt

[pseudo jolt]

Yeah just copy his runes, etc

[quartz burrow]

👍🏻

[unkempt coral]

No don’t

But k

[warm robin]

Who is priority to rank? Rag, thally or sher?

[hazy escarp]

1. Thalassa

2. Ragnarok

3. Sherezar

[warm robin]

Ty. When does thalassa get strong?

[hazy escarp]

Honestly R1

She becomes OP though at R4

[frozen crane]

r3 cuz u get the trait disable move

r1 doesnt accomplish anything against most of the top water monsters like hookuai gorg eisul and even frosilka

cuz immunity to freeze is everywhere in the water category

[jagged lake]

What team to use for raggy second floor and third floor

[quartz slate]

When ragnarok dungeon is open ?

[jagged lake]

Tuesday or Monday

[hazy escarp]

Tuesday or Wednesday*

[fiery skiff]

Tuesday or Thursday**

@jagged lake Faraday neo and Francine for floor 3. Baba hyperia and ugluk for r2

*floor 2

[jagged lake]

@fiery skiff can’t you see my monsters

[severe junco]

@fiery skiff u got roastedd

[jagged lake]

Milk it wasn’t a roast I’m just telling him look at my monsters

[severe junco]

nope big nice roast

[fiery skiff]

@severe junco k

[fading shell]

@frozen crane might be late but there are 9 elements, leaving 8 elements open without freeze immunity, she's great at r1

[torn arrow]

Question about elvira month
If we go to the last floor with lvl 120s during this month but don't complete it.
Next time she comes around it will need 130s again? And thus we can't go back and complete it if we don't have 130s?

[granite tusk]

Good question not able to reply. Nobody anyway knows if downrank is just for this time or will last. Maybe wait for rag and u will discover

[frozen crane]

@fading shell i only compare water restriction

not other restrictions

thats like comparing thalassa to wyrmlad

it gets very complicated because u have to factor in teammates as well

[fiery skiff]

@torn arrow I think so lol. Basically u have this month to beat it. Otherwise. Wait. I don't think so. Because it's her month but the other wm restrictions are lowered as well. So they may be low again next month for next wm month

[jagged lake]

@inland trail need your help

[inland trail]

Yeah?

[jagged lake]

For raggy second dungeon who to use

I have hyperia crafting but not r1

[inland trail]

Hyperia all ts, mount denier and gregorgz attacker

[jagged lake]

K

You sure not burotgor

For gregorz

[unkempt coral]

Greg has more dots

[high abyss]

and he doesnt get anticipated

[dry sierra]

Has more DOTs?

Buro doesnr even have one

[unkempt coral]

Exactly

So he does have more

[dry sierra]

He doesnt have more

To have more , buro needs to at least 1

To say that

[unkempt coral]

No

He doesn’t

If I had 10 candies and you had 0

I’d have more

So just because buro doesn’t have dots doesn’t mean that Greg doesn’t have more

[dry sierra]

Ik gregorz has more

Quicksand + bleed

But still buro doesnt

[unkempt coral]

I know

[jagged lake]

K

I never know warmaster un floor 2 could have rank up skills

[dry sierra]

Lol

[signal spruce]

How much for a rank 1 warmaster ?

Orbs

[hazy escarp]

4700 orbs

[signal spruce]

Ty

[hazy escarp]

Np

[steady shuttle]

I need help on Elvira dungeon. On the second dungeon where the dnemuy has artifact and Pandalf us one of the enemies , how can I deal with it? It is not rempved by PER nor trait disable and I cannot kill them . I tried ever thing Wyrmlad, Demisd, Gakora, Al Canine, Draghar, Lighterium, Solaris,

[high abyss]

u have all of those and cant beat them?

it aint the dungeon

ur usin them wrong

get demise to go first

stack draghar with str

and strength from beyond the draghar

u have literally the best light monsters at ur disposal

[pseudo jolt]

^

@steady shuttle you probably have the incorrect runes

Etc

I beat elvira just by using al canine, saika, and gakora with no difficulty

[steady shuttle]

I do not have good runes and reliccs. Also only level 100.

I have speed on Al, strenght and Ts on solaris and Wym. Draghar is not much useful against artifact.

It is the artifact boost where I had problem. Finaly I got through thanjs to CDA.

[high abyss]

ahhh

well gj

gl on the next nodes

[pseudo jolt]

@steady shuttle what runes lol

[steady shuttle]

I have runes 5 or 6.

[hexed pilot]

Use wyrmlad

Ur light monsters are so good how come u cant beat

[severe spire]

Ragi or thalassa for a first warmaster

Need ur opinion guys

[restive bloom]

Rag

[hazy escarp]

Rag

[mossy sorrel]

Ragg

[candid oasis]

rag if r0 for thalasa you should rank her to 4

[mossy sorrel]

Well seeing the fact that wm are cheep going for thalassa is good option cuz u can get her ranked easily just need orbs

And I will say save orbs for now cuz it seems like there might be something new coming in heroic dungeons

[gilded palm]

5stars skill set on 1star thallasa?

[unkempt coral]

Abyss bottom is her r1 skill @gilded palm

[hazy escarp]

It’s her R4 skill

@unkempt coral

[frosty dove]

dummy

[unkempt coral]

Thanks

Just because I made a mistake you feel the need to insult me

I can see that your quite the fine gentleman

I’m sorry

You’re *

[little berry]

[unkempt coral]

Care to mock me on that regard as well?

[high abyss]

hol up i thought they fixed that glitch

[inland trail]

A few cases like this were reported before too, but not sure on which server(s)

[quartz burrow]

I have ruby and dungeon master ready for rag dungeon. Who would be the best 3rd monster to pair with those 2 that isn’t WM/nemesis/elite?

[hazy escarp]

In all honesty you are probably good with that

[feral flint]

@quartz burrow what level are they? I’m looking for a combo to beat Sherezar floor 4. I can’t get past barb, mount and totem

[hazy escarp]

If you need a monster, pick up madam fusion

[quartz burrow]

Ruby is R3 and DM is currently R3, but all will need to be R3 for rag as magic is the final floor.

@hazy escarp I like that. Have wanted madam fusion and seems like a better monster than the magic attackers. Thanks!

[hazy escarp]

Np

[little berry]

Or Kronx

Have to wait to see how good he’s gonna be tho

[quartz burrow]

he is in time traveler maze. What type of event is that?

[hazy escarp]

Maze

[quartz burrow]

🤦🏻‍♂️. Right in the name.

[feral flint]

@quartz burrow 🖖

[tame beacon]

Orb costs factoring in the discounts of the floors. Credit to @timid hornet

[little berry]

Im so happy

Gratzz mate

[frosty dove]

now rank him up

[magic stone]

Sigh rag is too hard im only on the first part of rag thats too op 2 wm n a vip come on man thats tough need advice n tips to beat it

I gotten close but cant beat the last monster

[hazy escarp]

(:

[quartz slate]

With no more orbs 😕

[frosty dove]

coolio

[jagged lake]

@magic stone floor 1 or 2

[magic stone]

@jagged lake 2 now i beat floor 1 it was tough

[jagged lake]

What are your monsters

[magic stone]

@jagged lakenabaline ,brutalis n that hyena attacker forgot his name lol doing ok so far

[jagged lake]

Hmm

Narok

[magic stone]

Yee

[jagged lake]

What relics you got on them

What runes and relics

@magic stone do you have mountezuma

[magic stone]

Nahh

I have energizer staff n oblation trap n all lvl 6 runes

On nab

N all life 2 runes n ts on brutalis 105

For narok lvl 6 n lvl 5 n ts

Aslo baltsaur mask n jakugan sword

[jagged lake]

Not bad do you have jazzy mask

[magic stone]

No

[jagged lake]

Your prob gonna have some problems because before the last nodes the enemy Has immune to control

[magic stone]

Wow

[jagged lake]

Yah mountazuma was the mvp

[magic stone]

Right

[little berry]

should I get barbel

[magic stone]

If u want

[little berry]

how good is he

[jagged lake]

No no no

No

Get raggy

[magic stone]

I say go for thalssa or rag or remtar

[little berry]

is ragnarok good
What warmaster is good at rank 0

[magic stone]

Yess

Thats who im going for

[jagged lake]

Rag

[little berry]

and what warmaster is good at level 130

[jagged lake]

I regret getting remtar

[magic stone]

All of them

[jagged lake]

Thalassa

[magic stone]

@jagged lakewhy thats hes not so bad

[jagged lake]

😂😂😂😂 your funny

He’s not bad but better than him

[little berry]

why is remtar bad

I don't see people using him

[hazy escarp]

He’s okay

[magic stone]

If hes rank hes good

[jagged lake]

Is not that he’s bad to me is his skill set a r0 is boring and skill mirror can get remove unless you use neo

[magic stone]

Right

[little berry]

hmm

[magic stone]

Yeah thalssa rank is good

Id go for her if i had strong water monster

So go for rag my guy

[inland trail]

Remntar isn't bad but he's not really amazing either
Some better metals out there, one of which is a race monster

[little berry]

who is the best nemesis 1-5

[inland trail]

1. Samael
2. Xiron
3. Llum
4. Talos
5. Warthak/Faraday

[hazy escarp]

No

Llum is better than ruby

[magic stone]

No

[inland trail]

No she isn't

[hazy escarp]

Yes she is

1.sammy

2.llum

3.xiron

[inland trail]

Sammy and ruby really stand high above the rest
3-6 can be debated

[hazy escarp]

4.warthak/faraday

5.nadiel/talos

Ruby is debatable tho

[little berry]

how ruby can active CD so monster can't attack

[hazy escarp]

She isn’t a top denier anymore

[inland trail]

She is

[hazy escarp]

Sammy and llum are a top support

[inland trail]

Only denier with all forms of denying in her arsenal

[hazy escarp]

Alright, I should have said that better

Xiron is a top denier

But llum is a better support than ruby is as a denier

[little berry]

Sammy is good but I think ruby is better than llum

[hazy escarp]

Llum is better at supporting than xiron is at denying

[inland trail]

That doesn't necessarily make llum a better monster in a direct comparison

[little berry]

yea better support but wht are you going to do when he hits you with a CD

[hazy escarp]

if I ran taunt, I wouldn’t have to worry

Or had sherezar

Or outsped her

Or had ugluk

Or had hookuai

Or had cdda

[inland trail]

With sherezar you kinda have to worry since 0 CD skill+jazzy mask

[hazy escarp]

Which one?

Fragments?

[inland trail]

Yes

[little berry]

that's kinda true

wht about Qinin

[hazy escarp]

That still isn’t amazing as that’s assuming the opponent wouldn’t have stamina Regen relics

[little berry]

I miss spell a monster name

[hazy escarp]

And I don’t think many people would run that anyway on ruby

[inland trail]

Bigbrain people run it

[hazy escarp]

Smol*

[inland trail]

Ruby fragments is a great skill with jazzy mask kek

[little berry]

Qinling

[inland trail]

Qinling meh

[hazy escarp]

Not really

[inland trail]

Yes really

[hazy escarp]

It’s too gimmicky to run

[little berry]

he has a CD protection

[hazy escarp]

You’d be assuming your opponent doesn’t have DA, MT, or stam Regen relics

Which is very hard to avoid

[little berry]

Qinling can be very effective against CD monster

[hazy escarp]

Not really

He doesn’t have a team NER move

Which is awful for a support

[little berry]

so

[hazy escarp]

Why would I use him over say, positron?

Positron on top of having solid support moves and SC: CDA protection, can deny

[little berry]

in the grand duel if you have Qinling and 2 monster with immune to control

[hazy escarp]

Who cares about grand duels lol

Especially as a metric for a monster’s viability

[little berry]

ok

wait how good is volthar

[hazy escarp]

Good as a thunder denier

That’s it

[little berry]

I really wanna get hookuai

[hazy escarp]

Also, this is #monster-discussion

Let’s go to #monster-discussion

[little berry]

k

[astral vector]

Zeighar, Wasper, Malair, Flaky, and Pixelion. Any combination of those that could beat the final floor of Ragnarok dungeon with lv7-8 runes? Any setup recommendations, if so?

[hazy escarp]

Zeighar

Waper /

Flaky

Try to get a better magic support

[jagged lake]

Yep

[little berry]

Not putting pyro in top 5 nemesis

[round forum]

Which wm is better at r1 and r2?

[pseudo jolt]

@round forum probably rag

[mossy sorrel]

Thalassa and Ragg

[round forum]

Thanx man

[dry sierra]

Imagine saying ruby is better than faraday

Ruby completely sucks meta wise

[little berry]

Ruby good in wars

Wars only meta that matters change my mind

[mossy sorrel]

Pvp meta big succ

[frozen crane]

faraday isnt even good in pvp either

[dry sierra]

Better than ruby at least

And has anticipation

[inland trail]

Pvp as a metric and meta big wack

[frozen crane]

pvp has its own meta

its basically just hookuai eisul rag wyrmlad and thalassa

then everything else is garbage

[astral vector]

@hazy escarp just getting back to this, thank you! I do have Madam Fusion, but she's at r0 and Gretchen at r1. I'd imagine it would be best to focus on Fusion for the long term, anyway, but it'll be awhile before I can come up with enough cells to hit r3

[jagged lake]

Breed epics and extract

[astral vector]

Yeah, that's what I'm doing, but still a 50/50 and time consuming. Better than nothing, tho

[coral shale]

@dry sierra And why do you think Ruby sucks meta wise? Literally it has 2 Random Control effects in one skill. You really can't compare an attacker and a denier. Honestly do you even have Ruby?

[little berry]

Because it's un-versatile.

[stark quartz]

gelotron is good aswell as talos, timerion and all other artifacts

[little berry]

Control is all it can really do, and without any way of going through defenses, it's not that good. Also, kinda useless till lvl 115.

[stark quartz]

easily stopped

[little berry]

Every denier is easily stopped/counterable except Thalassa

[coral shale]

You said it yourself. Every Denier. So it's not just Ruby. So now you're saying that O'Reilly, Sherezar, Mirak, Silverleaf, etc can easily be stopped. And what's so special about Faraday? It has DoTs. Literally Marquis is like the same thing. Honestly Marquis is better than Faraday.

[little berry]

Faraday is better than marquis tho

At least Discharger is

[tawny oxide]

depends on faras rank tho

[coral shale]

Sapphire, that's the point. Ruby is a denier. Also multiple types of denial, Stamina Drain, CDA, and basically every denial except Total Blind. Tho Total Blind is very inconsistent, so it doesn't really matter. Ruby also has Ignite and Stamina Leak.

[little berry]

Double random control + jazzy mask big

[tawny oxide]

sHe dOeSn'T hAvE pEr ThO

[little berry]

[tawny oxide]

neither does fara.

[coral shale]

Discharger is worse, Marquis has better stats, Marquis has AoE Burn + Sunburn and AoE Poison. Discharger has a single Burn + Sunburn and AoE sunburn. So Marquis is better.

[little berry]

Discharger has elemental advantage

[inland trail]

Imagine thinking stats matter kek

[coral shale]

They do LOL

[inland trail]

X

[coral shale]

So what if Discharger has the elemental advantage? Are we making them fight? No. We're talking about the current meta. Marquis is more viable in the current meta than Fara.

[little berry]

Wot

What meta are you referring to?

[coral shale]

"Imagine saying ruby is better than faraday
Ruby completely sucks meta wise"

[inland trail]

Still don't get it

[coral shale]

PVP Meta

[little berry]

PvP meta is wack

[inland trail]

First off, no
Second off, pvp as a metric for anything big no no

[little berry]

And neither are really used there anyway from what I can tell

[coral shale]

First off, that's what Smaug said.
Second, wdym? Are you implying that people don't fight in PvP?

[inland trail]

Yes

[coral shale]

HAHA what a joke.

Then why does the 1st Place person has 8.1k Trophies

[inland trail]

Because money

[coral shale]

Money

[inland trail]

Speaking in general, people don't care about pvp

[coral shale]

Then what do they care about?

[inland trail]

War

[coral shale]

And how do you know that people don't care? You asked like 2 of your friends?

[inland trail]

That's what's keeping the game alive
Teams are the reason why players aren't quitting left and right and are going through all of SP's bad decisions

[coral shale]

Why, because they will just get kicked out if they quit?

[inland trail]

I mean if you look at it many players from my level (L2/3) are sitting in L4
It's mainly lower levels who care about pvp, a player like me can just camp in L4 with one attack in the whole season

[coral shale]

Lower Levels, and what's the majority of people? Low levels or high levels?

[inland trail]

Looking at how the majority of people doesn't have faraday, who this is about, you can't really look at it that way either

[coral shale]

Yeah, and that's because Smaug mentioned that Fara is better than Ruby?

[little berry]

Fake news

[coral shale]

Whoops, I meant Renar Birb Hater

Scroll up

[inland trail]

Don't pay so much attention to what Renar says
He's one of those who're quick to jump on the Ruby sucks bandwagon

[frosty dove]

You're not wrong lmao

[coral shale]

Well, someone's going to answer, and that just happens to be me

[inland trail]

I answered him and others many times too :PepeLaugh:

[coral shale]

You responded to me though lmao

[inland trail]

Because faraday is better than fire froggo

[coral shale]

Explanation?

[hazy escarp]

Yop

[coral shale]

And which Fara

[hazy escarp]

I finally agree with andrej

Prolly discharger

But obscure is still solid

[coral shale]

Explain Please

[inland trail]

Dischauger
You could argue marquis is better than obscure

[coral shale]

I wanna know why you think so

[inland trail]

Better trait (tough vs hardened), better 0 CD skill and better skills in general

[coral shale]

I'd say Marquis has better skills though

[hazy escarp]

Eh

[inland trail]

Depends what you prefer
He has better DOTs but fara has more raw damage

[hazy escarp]

I mean, the single double stun is nice but faraday can stun (only once tho) but he can also drain stamina

And that isn’t even talking about his solid dot skills

[inland trail]

Fara's stun is also 70 dmg vs marquis' 60

[hazy escarp]

That too

And it quicksands

[coral shale]

I'd rather have more DoTs rather than raw damage

[hazy escarp]

Also, faraday has no real competition in his element

Marquis has to fight nitro in fire

And in books, faraday is a top choice in superheroes

[coral shale]

(Marquis) AoE 40 Special dmg + Poison, 27s, 2 CD vs. (Faraday) 55 Thunder dmg + Burn + Sunburn, 22s, 1 CD
(Marquis) AoE 30 Fire dmg + Sunburn + Burn, 25s, 2 CD vs. (Faraday) AoE 40 Thunder dmg + Sunburn, 24s, 3 CD

[hazy escarp]

What about gravel strap?

Think you forgot that

[coral shale]

Also, Marquis also has a 70 dmg skill

[inland trail]

Well in a direct comparison, faraday has less DOTs, but has a better 0 CD skill (which is important here since sunblast is a top choice in fire) and more raw damage (in this case I'd prefer that over DOTs)

[coral shale]

I'm comparing similar skills between the two

[inland trail]

Also faraday has stronger single skills

Well All for one is only a 30dmg aoe, and while it will deal 20% more with DOTs, gravel strap is a 45dmg aoe

Which skill does more in total would depend on the enemy's life, but I'd usually prefer gravel strap

[coral shale]

There are a lot of Tanks in the meta, which is why I perfer DoTs rather than raw damage

[hazy escarp]

And we’re not even considering the insane advantage faraday has against his element since he has earth attacks

[inland trail]

Only in pvp
We don't talk about that here

[coral shale]

Aren't there tanks in Wars as well?

[inland trail]

Eh

Koralle gets destroyed by warthak and now ugluk too, clip is extremely rare, dunn is hecced by sammy, eisul is oofed by thalassa

[coral shale]

The top 4 people against the team I'm facing all have Koralle lmao

And it depends on the Rules

[inland trail]

Going by base # big no no

Well you'll have warthak available with koralle almost every time

[coral shale]

Nope

Not this war lol

[hazy escarp]

Well I think the Dunn example isn’t perfect as although Sammy does indeed hecc Dunn, it’d be rare to run Sammy over Dunn in dark wars

That’s just my opinion tho

[inland trail]

Most of the time we run sammy over dunn TBH
Only situations where dunn is more useful are if we can't outspeed a faster denier (offense) or to create certain combos with RNG SC monsters like rag or elvira (defense)

[hazy escarp]

Oh

Okay

[coral shale]

Also you're only talking about the Element Earth

You're forgetting about the Books

Koralle has totally different books than Warthak

So it's only occasionally where Warthak and Koralle are together

[inland trail]

Koralle is in sea (thalassa), adventurers (charmless) and families (thalassa)
So when he's not paired with warthak 2/3 times he'll be in an even worse spot

Potentially 3/3 times if there's no anticipation to stop charmless

[coral shale]

Marquis?

Families and Adventurers

[inland trail]

Then you can't use koralle

[coral shale]

Unless there's also Sea/Families and Adventurers

19 books, 3 of them are unlikely to be used so that's still 1/8 chance where Koralle can be used

[inland trail]

Adventurers is also rarely a restriction

[coral shale]

Koralle is in Adventurers

but it can still be one

And wdym it's "rarely" one

I like see it every 3/4 Wars

[inland trail]

Yes but newer books (such as winter (only newer as a war restriction), adventurers and villains) seem to have a lower chance of being a restrictions

We got it now and don't remember the last time we had it

[coral shale]

20 of the Enemy team on my team's war is using Koralle

[little berry]

Sorry to you still need a r1 to get a warmaster r0

[elfin fossil]

I didn’t think i’d get 3 open..
If anyone has rune suggestions, feel free to ping me however you like.

[thorn forum]

gg

[mossy sorrel]

@elfin fossil /

[dapper hinge]

Anyone mind helping me out with the best moveset for metal Sammy? :D

[inland trail]

What rank @dapper hinge?

[dapper hinge]

120

@inland trail

[dry sierra]

Pesti , pain , unholy , death mora

TT is situational

[inland trail]

The usual support skillset I run is Pain Scourge, Pestilence, Unholy Resurrect and Death Moratorium
But Death Delay and SW can be useful at times as well

[dapper hinge]

Thanks 😁

[jagged lake]

What’s does death delay and sw do

[dry sierra]

Death delay aoe 25% heal 0 cd

Sammy warrior is a TT

[pseudo jolt]

Bets skill set for Sammy

Best*

[inland trail]

Death delay is also 0 stamina, and so is SW

[serene meteor]

🤔

[haughty lance]

Should I run demons flames or grandmasters wisdom on my r0 rag

[high abyss]

depends what u need lol

his entire skill set is maleable

even ranked up

just depends what u need at the time

[jagged lake]

One reason I hate rag to much good skills

[frozen crane]

rag's skills depends entirely on his team comp

[pseudo jolt]

Best runes for rag?

[high abyss]

yes.

[frosty dove]

me too

[frozen crane]

[hazy escarp]

Only at R4+

@pseudo jolt