#monster-discussion

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dry sierra
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If u plan to rank her up

unkempt coral
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5 months till I can get r1 thalassa

main current
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5 months?

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By then thalassa will be outclassed by something else.

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šŸ˜‚

unkempt coral
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No she rlly won’t but k

fickle bluff
tired ginkgo
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greeat GGP GGP

dry sierra
mossy sorrel
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P2w or F2p šŸ¤”

near cradle
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f2p

mossy sorrel
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Cool

little berry
tired ginkgo
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@little berry big congrats LaughP

little berry
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@little berry whats the name

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i just called her thalassa

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im not that creative

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Octopus waifu

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Or tentecal sama

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Name it one of those

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ok

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Which one did you pick

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octopus waifu probably

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šŸ‘

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When i get rag his name is gonna be gag me daddy

radiant hill
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bruh

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what the heck

livid glen
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@fickle bluff which team did you use in warmaster dungeon

little berry
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@radiant hill whats wrong with the name

radiant hill
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i would say more but it’s frijajscking censored

jagged lake
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I’m just gonna name my rag smart cyclops

covert dune
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Beat it with gorg only lmao

little berry
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Noice

little berry
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Nice bros

fickle bluff
mossy sorrel
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Lol rainbow fros

little berry
fickle acorn
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Interesting.

rain roost
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What are the best warmasters?

pseudo jolt
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@rain roost thalassa, rag, Sherezar

mossy sorrel
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@rain roost depends on there rank
Best r0 wm -
1- Ragnarok
2- Sherezar
3- Remntar

dusty nymph
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@mossy sorrel

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why is remntar good r0

little berry
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Best at R3 is Rag/Thalassa

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Or Sherry I guess would qualify too

mossy sorrel
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@dusty nymph just check his SC and trait lol

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SC skill mirror which is very good and the Special protection trait is very good especially when u have a mega taunt or taunt monster

inland trail
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Elvira is still the best at R0 though
A lot better than remntar or sherezar

mossy sorrel
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For mainly offensive uses tho, in defense she isn't that great with all having per and fast deniers

dusty nymph
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why is special protection good with taunt

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especially good*

mossy sorrel
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Cuz tanks take all damage And having permanent protection from one element which is very common, this can help

dusty nymph
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even without taunt or mega taunt all your monsters are still immune?

mossy sorrel
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Yes

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It gives trait to any monster he is paired with

dusty nymph
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so why is special protection better when it's with taunt

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taunt or not you still cant get hit by special

mossy sorrel
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šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø

verbal sky
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what are the ragnarock floor requirments for elements?

mossy sorrel
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@verbal sky first floor Nature, second floor Earth r1 then Thunder r2 then fire r3 I guess

verbal sky
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whats r4 and 5?

little berry
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R4 is Metal and R5 is Magic

granite tusk
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How many orbs for last floor? Floor 6. Tks

little berry
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@granite tusk 6750

hazy escarp
little berry
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noice

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i need 540 orbs till rg

hazy escarp
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Or I could rank Thalassa to R1

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But I need rag more

frozen crane
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its skill mirror and the enemy team has ridiculous amounts of healing

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nvm

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this node was complete rng apprently lol

devout ore
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Oof

thorn solar
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Is Thalassa trait disabled move not only remove trait but also remove status castle effect?

hazy escarp
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Abyss bottom? Then yes

thorn solar
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So she can pierce all of Mega Taunt shield?

solar elk
velvet spindle
little berry
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@solar elk give her some x gold runes

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or you bad

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kek

solar elk
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I have just a few more X's , I can't do that Marquis

little berry
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no

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gold runes or no

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runes

odd temple
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And put speed runes on avaritia

queen escarp
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@solar elk i thought ML cant be player at PC anymore.. also how you get 3 level X runes?? šŸ‘€

solar elk
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@queen escarp You can, just download it from microsoft store Windows 10. You might have to change your location

queen escarp
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UwU ,how about runes? I need many X runes to strengthen my monsters lol

solar elk
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Well most of them I bought for 345gems

little berry
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Or buy them for 50 usd

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And get 8 x runes

mossy sorrel
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Gj man

ember dew
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Uria’s Pet then one shots my Gorg

mossy sorrel
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@ember dew use 1 speed on gorg and all ts on mudflow and use relics

ember dew
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I have a Cain’s Sword on Gorg just not in the picture

velvet spindle
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@ember dew 3 speed gorg

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Run his three extra turn skills

ember dew
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Don’t have runes to swap in

velvet spindle
ember dew
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I already run his ET skills

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:((((

covert dune
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Just keep replaying the battle you might get lucky and hr might do something else

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Thats what i did when i got stuck on one of those nodes

high narwhal
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Hello anyone?

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How much coins required for warmaster

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šŸ¤”

solar elk
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2.300 orbs for Lv 100

high narwhal
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Oh thanks

little berry
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Yo

hazy escarp
solar elk
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šŸ‘Œ

little berry
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@ember dew put a speed on gorrg

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and 2 ts monsters

wooden prism
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When is the next nemesis days?

cedar bison
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2 weeks

high abyss
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1 week*

severe junco
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omg i need to hurry

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i dont have runes on talos

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and i haven't prpared runes for samael

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im definetly not going anywhere

high narwhal
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Best warmasters?

high abyss
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top 3 currently are thalassa, rag and sherezar

dry sierra
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4th one is Gortak

severe junco
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I need orbs

little berry
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im guessing 800 will do

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but im a nub

high abyss
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5 x 100 = 800

frosty dove
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My man's said 800 when there's only 5 nodes left

winter river
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I far as I can see you’ll need 3784 more orbs to finish it

high abyss
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what?

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he finished the floor already so he doesnt need any

little berry
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So they dont go up the more you finish each node?

tawny oxide
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nop

frosty dove
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No

peak flower
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Necromancer, zahra, babari - which warmaster would you get at rank 4 and why?
Help me decide.

little berry
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None

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@peak flower babari

ancient spear
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necro is the most useful wm out of the three you just mentioned

little berry
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nah

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babari is

ancient spear
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but it would be better to save orbs for other wms

little berry
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babari, neo, faraday best thunder mons

peak flower
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I already have all the other good ones

ancient spear
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ah, ok

peak flower
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These are the three I am stuck o

ancient spear
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i would pick necro just because he's the most useful wm left

little berry
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He isn’t tho

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Babari is a lot better if we’re talking R4

peak flower
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An babari our class faraday?

little berry
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Eh not really outclasses him since they both do very different things

peak flower
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Because faraday is my go to in thunder wars

little berry
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I’d say he’s better but both big good

inland trail
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Faraday a lot better though :PepoToast:
Babari is OK as an offensive monster, not so good on def though

high abyss
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but voltaik > babari according to andrej

mint moat
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ı have a question guys . will sherezars group 4 skill opened at 105 lv can ı pick amy group 4 skill on him what ı want ?

high abyss
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nope

tired ginkgo
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no

high abyss
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they happen in order

tired ginkgo
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one skill per rank

mint moat
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hmm

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ok tnx

tired ginkgo
inland trail
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Yes, volt is still a better offensive monster and both succ on def
Having the status of elite/WM/nemesis isn't enough for me, I completley disregard that

cold marlin
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i just got warmaster gortak but im not sure wut runes i should use for him as an attacker and would also like some help, also need help with deciding runes for elvira R0

pseudo jolt
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@cold marlin

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For gortak

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And for elvira

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Any team runes

frosty dove
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Any runes but it depends on your team

little berry
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Does thalassa cast mega freeze at the start of battle ?

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No

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Okay haha

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If she would had she would’ve been op

tawny oxide
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she is op even without the sc

peak flower
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On the question I asked earlier - would gortak rank 4 be a better choice over babari, zahra and necromancer?

dry sierra
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Yez @peak flower

inland trail
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Much better

kind crane
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Babari is fun to use when you have shezza amulet

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Zahra and necro suck

inland trail
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Yes, but being fun and being good are different things
Thalassa isn't fun to use, but she's arguably the best in the game

kind crane
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I disagree, all fun things to use have some element of usefulness

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Because winning is fun

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So yes, Babari is both

peak flower
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Babari can remove positive and disable trait which is useful in current meta? Gortak is a hard hitter but can’t PER.

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But he has a useful 0 stamina and cooldown negative effects removal. I don’t want to waste my orbs so want to get best bang for buck.

inland trail
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Depends of you're looking to build your roster for war or pvp

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Well of course babari is good, but he's not impressive or anything
War wise gortak is easily better

kind crane
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Do you have Rag/Thalassa/Shezza/Remntar/Elvira @peak flower?

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Because they’re all better than Babari and Gortak

peak flower
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I have all those and Elvira at rank 5.

inland trail
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I'd get R4 thalassa/sherry/rag before working on other WMs

peak flower
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That’s my line up - which is why I am looking for my next WM. Have orbs for a rank 4 atm.

inland trail
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Looking at your profile I'd probably rather get babari now since you have warthak and don't have faraday

peak flower
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But I do have faraday. @inland trail

inland trail
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Oh NVM
I'm rart

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Then gortak

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And rank the mountainsplitter with the earth cells, he's the best earth attacker and monster

fiery skiff
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Lol

fleet oriole
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Just got thalassa to R1 fyi

unkempt holly
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Ragnarok

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And then rank thal/shezza

fleet oriole
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Sherezar aeemed useless due to my ruby

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Always gonna be faster

winter river
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Rank thalassa

fleet oriole
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I’m not sure I can get her to 115 tho

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My only water monster that’s decent is Gorg

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And he’s 110 and I can prolly get to 115 but 120 would be a stretch

unkempt holly
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Then get rag and start ranking him

winter river
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Thalassa still the best not having monsters for high floors is just a dumb excuse getting an R5 good L is easy

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There is also epics

little berry
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It was eisul vs the three of them hookuai and imigbo didn’t last at all and he single handily whooped them!

high abyss
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how many orbs is an r4 wm?

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i know last floor is like 7k orbs but idk how its divided in the dungeon

limpid spear
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2400 orbs

hardy temple
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Wats the next Warmaster group?

winter river
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Rag/Zehra/barbael

hazy escarp
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Does anyone know the speed of ragnarok on the last node of the second dungeon floor?

lunar vessel
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If you could just pick 3 nemesis which ones would it be?

hazy escarp
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Sammael PC, warthak MS, Xiron the ruby

tired ginkgo
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^

hazy escarp
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So what is rag’s speed?

inland trail
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Sammy, ruby, llum

dry sierra
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Sammy , Faraday , warthak

little berry
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Guys, is 3 monsters on lvl 110 enough to pass 2nd floor and get warmaster?

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Or you need 3 monsters on 130?

hazy escarp
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Yes

dry sierra
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@little berry its enough

little berry
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But is it possible to get warmaster with 1 lvl 115 and 2 monsters lvl 100? @dry sierra

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115 is mop

dry sierra
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Babari?

little berry
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And other 2 is r.o.f.l and thorder

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Yes

dry sierra
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Yeah probably

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Just use VI runes or higher

little berry
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Oh

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I only have 1 lvl 6

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And I will put diamond relic on mop

dry sierra
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Which one?

little berry
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If monsters life is below 50% it will deal 3500 physical damage to all enemies at lvl 1

dry sierra
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Its jaku sword

hazy escarp
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Wait, are you saying can you beat floor 3 of rag dungeon with 2 level 100s and a 115@little berry

little berry
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I need 2 floors for warmaster babari @hazy escarp

hazy escarp
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Oh, ok

little berry
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Is it possibke?

dry sierra
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Ya

little berry
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Thanks

small stag
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A team mate of mine wants Necro because he can resurrect..
But his non-group 4 res skills both have your ally possessed right?!.. so r2 is needed for the propper res skill

little berry
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@small stag it revives enemys with possession

frosty dove
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Rank 2 is needed for the proper Resurrection skill

small stag
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Oh even enemy šŸ˜…

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Thanks, i'll let him know

fierce kayak
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Any ideas how to rune ragnarok?

dry sierra
celest light
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Ragnarok need life rune @dry sierra ?

tired ginkgo
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maybe if you really want to use one...

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mine has full ts

dry sierra
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Unranked yes

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U want people to fricc ur rag? Then dont use one

celest light
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What is fricc? Mine unranked rag.

tired ginkgo
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fricc your rag-kill your rag

eager adder
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how do you win the last node of the 2nd floor of Rag.

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it's so tough ..

frosty dove
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Better monsters

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Better relics and runes

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That's how you "win"

eager adder
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That's very helpful thank you

frozen crane
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get r5 gortak and stomp him

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kappa

fading shell
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Can you craft onr WM multiple times?

severe junco
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Only once

fading shell
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:(

pseudo jolt
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@fading shell well you can, but you won’t be able to rank them up

little berry
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I thought you can’t anymore?

frosty dove
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you can't

pseudo jolt
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Oh you can’t?

frosty dove
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It was changed sometime ago

covert dune
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If you could people would be flexing their 7 necromancers

little berry
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Flexing with necromancer LaughP

inland trail
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Lol

high abyss
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i would 100% flex 7 necros

gilded palm
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@eager adder i only use baba yaga R1, warrior R2 and koralle R2, no relic except koralle doubel heroim shield relics, low level rune, and win, and yes, that's very tough battle (sorry for my bad eng)

frosty dove
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no worries

cosmic basalt
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Got ragggg

ember plume
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nice grabbbb

cosmic basalt
frosty dove
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Now rank get him to rank 1 to be "meta"

frozen crane
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unranked rag worked just fine before

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it prob still works fine now

frosty dove
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eh

jagged lake
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What is his rank 1 skill

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Is it no more failures

hazy escarp
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Yes

little berry
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yup

feral flint
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What does meta mean? I just got Rag and I don’t see being able to level him for awhile. I’m hoping to scare people away from attacking me.

hollow adder
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@feral flint Meta means the monsters that are currently one of the best and used in PvP by some top players. Ragnarok is one of the best meta monsters. But he’s not that scary at rank 0

feral flint
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@hollow adder well I’m still scared at rank 0. šŸ™‚ Thank you

hollow adder
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@feral flint Yee

feral flint
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I see the 2 top players use him as defense, not offense. Not what I was expecting. I am happy to see Wrymlad is used. He’s one of my new favorites.

hollow adder
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Yeah they are probably the most used in top 500 next to Hookuai and a taunt monster

hazy escarp
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And thalassa

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No, eisul

lunar vessel
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Most Effective Troop Available

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That is the original acronym for meta, now it really mean most effective (fill in the blank) available

inland trail
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Team in the blank now

quaint hollow
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What’s the best tunes to run Rag

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Runes*

tired ginkgo
opaque wagon
hazy escarp
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@quaint hollow

velvet spindle
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Stop

fiery skiff
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Jeez

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Lol

hazy escarp
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What?

frosty dove
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You're wasting this monsters decent strength by giving it all Ts

tired ginkgo
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you cant do much damage if hes r0 or r1

fickle acorn
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Ye

inland trail
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Even at R5 he shouldn't have strengthlevel10
Base power hardly matters and his highest damage move is only 60

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Rag would've been a good attacker in 2014-15, but now :PepoToast:

high abyss
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just run death door

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no need for str runes at all

frosty dove
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DD is cool

winter river
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Strength is good against thalassa+Dunn combo

astral vector
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Rag r3 for resurrection move or start working on someone else? Pairing with Koralle and Wyrmlad currently until I get a mega taunt monster to swap in. Wyrmlad is r3 with resurrection already, is it worth having another res skill or should I use rag in more of a deny role?

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Speaking strictly to PvP usage

quick scaffold
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Having more res is always good trust me

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Res skills have a high cooldown..two res skills will end up in a long cycle of resurrection

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In case the opponent fails to make the kill quickly

high abyss
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pairing res rag and wyrmlad res is a force to be reckoned with

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extremely powerful combo

astral vector
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Thanks for the input, I'll give it a go!

quick scaffold
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Yes and wyrm with uriel essence..can basically resurrect a whole team again

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I faced such few days ago

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Killed rag and koralle

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Wyrmlad was resurrected..by uriel essence.
Wyrmlad resurrected rag..
Rag had speed..so rag in turn resurrected koralle

hazy escarp
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Why didn’t you cover warthak’s ranked skills?

little berry
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Wanted to show its good even unranked

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Also want to do a best Warmaster list at Rank 0

hazy escarp
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I see

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Don’t you think barbael is worst R0?

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I think zahra is

little berry
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Zahra

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Barbael has trait diable which is meta

hazy escarp
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I guess I forgot who it was

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Who thought that

pseudo jolt
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@little berry you should continue with what you’re doing

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This video I found it really useful

little berry
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Thanks @pseudo jolt i dont want people to waste nemesis souls

hazy escarp
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Is nadiel’s NER worth running ranked?

little berry
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The heal / NER? Its great.

hazy escarp
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I doubt people would waste theirs souls On luci or hydratila

normal pilot
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Thanks @little berry I’m considering buying a nemesis and now I know which one to get if i do

hazy escarp
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Is talos still good?

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I feel like the nature one is better than the magic one since he can corrupt

little berry
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Zahra is not worst than barbael.

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Yeah but he needs fairly high mutants to do so

hazy escarp
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At R0 she sure is

little berry
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Not really but ok.

hazy escarp
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Her best move is a team NER

little berry
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Zahra is far more useful than barbael at r0.

hazy escarp
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Barbael can aoe trait disable and aoe total blind

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Zahra can only apply a single botanophobic shield and aoe poison

pseudo jolt
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Zahra trash anyways

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Nobody uses her in pvp

hazy escarp
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She’s solid in certain wars

little berry
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With a DA infested meta i don't think his two AoE's aren't really that good. Not to mention he struggles with MT which is also infesting the meta. Sure, Zahra struggles with these as well, but she has better relic slots, a far better trait than him (the 50% Increased life is very helpful when paired with Tanks) The AoA NER can also come in handy, AoE Special Weakness can help set up for your attacker.

hazy escarp
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R4 only tho

pseudo jolt
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@little berry

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You can monetize your videos?

little berry
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Total Blind isn't even that spectacular. and his trait disable only lasts 1 turn until he gets ranked up.

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Zahra is useful for nature wars

hazy escarp
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But at that point running her is pointless as nadiel does what she does but better

little berry
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Counters Pyro, some decent moves ranked too

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50% increased life is pointless?

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since when?

hazy escarp
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Only Ingenica can TD in fire

little berry
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Ingenica is far better than Barbael at doing it then.

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At least Ingenica's TD comes with a PER

hazy escarp
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@little berry it’s not pointless but not that useful compared to nadiel’s NER+30% heal

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||Are you kwamp btw?||

little berry
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Sure, it might not be that useful compared to Nadiel's skill, but both of them also play different roles, Zahra is far more supportive then Nadiel.

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All im saying is, Zahra isn't trash

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I find her more useful than Barbael at r0.

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i have both

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@pseudo jolt Probably but on this channel the views are not worth it.

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Its just for fun

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@hazy escarp yes. i am Kwamp.

hazy escarp
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Dam

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Ur not kwamp

little berry
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i mean, your not wrong

hazy escarp
regal wraith
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hi I can use some advice about nemesis Dungeon, which nemesis ,? what rank?

fiery skiff
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@regal wraith Sammy and Faraday some of the best for nsd. Talos and most the others will work as well. You'll need to be ranked pretty high with high leveled runes.

dry sierra
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Rank 3 and level 8-10 are fine

eager adder
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can anyone share their team that they beat nemises dungeon (or high nodes) with runes and relics please? ty

wooden prism
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How good is talos

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The island protecter

low patrol
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very @wooden prism

regal wraith
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@fiery skiff thank you All of youšŸ˜„

magic thicket
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@regal wraith best team imo is 2 Sammy ( fs and pc ) and ruby for nsd

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Fs as attacker pc as supporter

regal wraith
haughty lance
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Are the nemesis chests for 600 gems worth it

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I’ve got 750 gems saved up

regal wraith
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I probably wouldn't use gems, I'm going for cells

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But i have 10 Ruby cells,
So only need 25x3 .. but I'm not the right one to answer you window šŸ˜

wooden prism
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@haughty lance do grand duels, it's cheaper for nemesis

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Get nemesis souls

magic thicket
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@haughty lance yea do grand duels

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@haughty lance is that u sr17?

haughty lance
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Yes

magic thicket
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Woah

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U have 2 nemesis right? @haughty lance

haughty lance
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Only one

magic thicket
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That's my nemesis team

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I did a task of 2.1k gems @haughty lance and used like 1k gems in duels bro

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And I got 3 nemesis

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Ruby pc fs

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And 600 elementals

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Grand duels are a great way to get Nemesis

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F2p wayšŸ˜

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@haughty lance nemesis chests are totally gambling

little berry
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I don’t have any nemesis and got a 100 souls

Which chest should I get?

pseudo jolt
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@little berry the best is 1st chest

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If you buy it, send screenshot

little berry
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Will do

quartz burrow
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Who are the top 3 nemesis monsters currently?

little berry
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Is he any good?

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@pseudo jolt

magic thicket
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@little berry awsm

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Great pull

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She is great

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Use 3 team speed on her

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Great supporter

little berry
#

Nice

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I needed a supporter

magic thicket
#

Light supporter

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With heavy metal skills

pseudo jolt
#

Yeah she’s good

magic thicket
#

U can use as attacker too @little berry

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She has heavy aoe metal damage and is in light category

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So elemental advantage

little berry
#

Great! Thanks guys

little berry
hazy escarp
#

Nice job on getting hiroim’s shield!

magic thicket
#

Thanks bro @little berry !!!!

regal wraith
#

Thanks for that one @Bonesaw šŸ‘

drifting cedar
#

My game keeps crashing against gorthak in the nemesis dungeon someone with the same problem?

winter river
#

No

dense finch
#

Best nemesis to buy?

little berry
#

@dense finch samael the plague carrier

signal heath
#

Do I just need to rank them up or..... idk

dense finch
#

thank

little berry
#

@signal heath get a Faraday. Anticipation helps a ton.

#

Preferably Discharger.

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Also wouldn't hurt to rank Samael up to r3 for his TT

astral vector
#

Opened 3 chests. Mountainsplitter (yay!), Iron Leader (no clue?), and a dupe Discharger (cells for ranking?)

I really wanted a Sammy or a Xiron, but that's RNG, I guess

little berry
#

Iron Leader is nice

#

Great light attacker

astral vector
#

Support?

little berry
#

Nice pulls

astral vector
#

Oh, yeah?

little berry
#

She could be a support, but I feel like she excels more at being an attacker

#

With the elemental advantage

astral vector
#

Gotcha. Mountainsplitter got me real excited, too. Am I right to cannibalize the second Faraday for cells?

little berry
#

That's what I would do

neon umbra
little berry
#

No point in having 2 Faraday's LaughP

#

Nice

astral vector
#

That's kinda my thoughts. Didn't see any situation I'd want two

#

Ooh, nice. I have terrible luck with rune chests

neon umbra
#

my luck with rune chests is rlly good

#

i pulled an x ts

#

n this is like my 6th lvl 9 out of these

little berry
#

Gib me yer luck

signal heath
#

@little berry killed faraday too. Not even 2 turns in. Only thing I can do is deny and damage a turn later with warthak. Can’t deny so they killed everyone one shot.

little berry
#

@signal heath if sammy was ranked up you could have won

signal heath
#

@little berry explain

little berry
#

tt

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cda thal

signal heath
#

Either way the only monster I had faster was ruby. Sammy is slower. Sammy goes after teams still dead.

little berry
#

rip

signal heath
#

Talos kills me

little berry
#

so is talos more of an issue than faraday

signal heath
#

Thalassa isn’t the issue it’s talos but I can’t do damage before he or thalassa

#

I’ll faraday never went

#

Idk

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2 turns 2 teams dead

little berry
#

oh'

signal heath
#

Second team didn’t do a thing so only 1 for the sake of saying

little berry
velvet ingot
#

I beat thalassa, recommendations?

high abyss
#

anyone know if jazzy mask gets negated if the monster is total blinded

#

wondering before i enter the barb node

#

i know it works against evasion even though no damage dealt

winter river
#

🤷

#

I used pain scouge with samael to ensure quartz land aoe control and trigger jazz mask

high abyss
#

my predicament is my faraday with my ts needed to outspeed barb died because the game big dumb and lucifire didnt recharge twice

#

so i can either spend 70 gems to rune swap and have a better chance at winning

#

or i can risk being outsped

#

then otked by talos

little berry
#

@high abyss cann you help with rag ddungeon

high abyss
#

yop

frosty remnant
#

@velvet ingot impressive

#

Considering what your team is, then again, Ruby be Ruby

magic thicket
#

Yea

#

Without Sammy it's hard

#

I got ripped off

high abyss
#

i did it with that team lol

#

that exact team

magic thicket
#

@high abyss wait what?

#

Ss your team pls

#

šŸ‘€

high abyss
#

115 ruby 3 x speed, 115 sammy pc 2 x ts 1 8 ts, 100 sammy fs 2 x ts 1 8 ts

magic thicket
#

I don't have X runes ooF

#

@high abyss did u complete whole nsd?

loud wraith
#

Does anyone know what team it is where the guy beats like thalassas dungeon with rares i think 1 is cristobal

gilded palm
loud wraith
#

Ur joking

ember plume
#

@gilded palm r0-r2 3 ts/2ts 1 life

fiery skiff
#

Lol

gilded palm
#

@loud wraith oooff

#

@ember plume thanks

fierce kayak
#

Anyone here

#

Which nemesis chest is more worth to buy?

tired ginkgo
#

chest I

fierce kayak
#

The worst

#

One of the group 4 skills is just an aoe guard down

fiery skiff
#

Yeah

inland trail
#

@high abyss it activates after a monster is hit, not after damage is dealt
So since total blind means you miss, it won't activate

high abyss
#

@magic thicket ya

little berry
#

any advice actually for buying one nemesis chest? or they the same like the last time or did something change in the order?

loud wraith
#

There the same,if u want a specific monster ur better buying cells not the chest

pseudo jolt
hazy escarp
#

Now all you need are cells

fiery skiff
#

Nice

hazy escarp
#

Gonna waste tomorrow getting Sammy

#

Have 25 cells + 35 souls and 730 gems

coral perch
#

my game crashes at the last node of nemesis

#

anyone have solution?

tame whale
#

talk to a dev. not much you can do about that

little berry
#

I just got him too Nex

#

How good would this be for getting necromancer? I’ll rank them all obviously

high abyss
#

you dont need necro if u have those 3 xd

cedar dock
#

ikr

coral perch
#

the devs not respoinding

sly oar
#

how much orbs for rank 4 warmaster ?

hazy escarp
#

Check pinned messages

errant parcel
#

What does everyone think of Nadiel the flooder

fiery skiff
#

Meh

high abyss
#

he aight

hazy escarp
tired ginkgo
fickle acorn
#

Gimme

little berry
#

noice

vital quiver
#

Does revival essence (Uriel’s Essence) work in Nemesis dungeon

little berry
#

@vital quiver yes

vital quiver
#

Thansk

steep adder
#

I finally have enough souls to get the 25 cells with them. I have enough Xion or Samael cells to craft any of the 3 types. Which of the 2 is the best, and of that one which sub-type is the best?

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Ok, I read up some, seems Xiron the Ruby is the best Xiron by far and Samael plague carrier or fever scatter. Guess I’ll get Ruby first.

little berry
#

@steep adder get sammy first

#

Has much more use in meta

#

And get plauge carrier

hazy escarp
#

Have 110 warthak and soon to be 115 Sammy. Should I go for Llum, faraday, or pyro?

high abyss
#

pyro probs

hazy escarp
#

I’m thinking so but I don’t have many good lightning mons

#

And no anticipators

high abyss
#

faraday then

quartz burrow
#

Is hook, gorg, & Ihtiander a good 3 to use to clear Thalassa floors or is there a better combination?

tawny oxide
#

you can solo it with gorg lmo

#

ye it good enough

quartz burrow
#

Thanks.

frosty dove
#

You can't solo it with gorg only

#

You'll die

unkempt holly
#

Hook + gorg, yes it is easy

Only gorg, should be near impossible

quartz burrow
#

OK. Will focus on those 2 and plug in a third.

hasty mortar
covert dune
#

@frosty dove you can go solo with gorg, its how i got my thalassa

restive fog
#

I have a thalassa r1 only with gorg and lord of Atlantis

#

Just make him go first and give gorg double damage

magic thicket
#

@unkempt holly @tawny oxide gorg eisul way better

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It should just RIP them

granite iron
#

What is this game called

normal pilot
#

Monster Legends lmao

signal spruce
#

Hi guys so I have these monsters and a ranked up burotgor and will have a ranked up hyperia so what do you suggest for me to have like first warmaster (lvl 100)

covert dune
#

Since you have a ranked buro and arr gonna get a ranked hyperia go for rag

#

All u need are some more nature monsters and youll be good

fiery skiff
#

Hatching emerald atm. I have enough cells to either get it to r2 or to get quartz to r3. So I'm wondering r2 emerald or r3 quartz?

fiery skiff
#

Yeah ik. I saw it. Not very good

pseudo jolt
#

@fiery skiff none lol

fiery skiff
#

@pseudo joltāŒ

little berry
#

@fiery skiff emerald. Quartz shoudnt even be legendary

#

Neither

#

Save your elementals

signal heath
#

@fiery skiff if you had to pick one emerald. Pretty good compaired to some legends

fiery skiff
#

Alright thanks

magic thicket
#

Oof no ruby? @fiery skiff

#

Did u buy chests?

fiery skiff
#

No

#

Too rng for me

#

Had enough of that in the 50% chests

magic thicket
#

Then how did u get those nemesis? @fiery skiff

#

šŸ‘€

fiery skiff
#

@magic thicket cells

#

Lol

magic thicket
#

Why did u get quartz and emerald then ? @fiery skiff

#

OoF

fiery skiff
#

I didn't

#

@magic thicket hmmmmm I honestly can't remember when I got quartz. May have been from 50% chests. And then emerald same thing. I'm not sure. But I had 70 cells of emerald and decided to just go ahead and get it with the 25 cells

magic thicket
#

OoF

oblique dawn
#

When is next elite day

hazy escarp
#

End of the month

low sandal
#

Which should be next week or the week after

misty elm
#

Looks like they abandoned the random Nemesis idea very quickly šŸ˜„

pallid cairn
#

i just got my Xiron the Ruby to r5 free to play

magic thicket
#

šŸ‘€

ember plume
#

@pallid cairn nicwe

grizzled mirage
#

How?

magic thicket
pallid cairn
#

i used Nemesis souls to buy the chest, got Xiron The Ruby, and used my elementium and magic elemental cells

tawny oxide
#

shiba liba that luck you have
gimme some

sharp jewel
#

Is wm Elvira good?

#

I want to get her 2hen I get a light support

#

When*

#

And how many orbs do you need to get in order to gat a r0 WM

#

I have 1.5k

fiery skiff
#

She's good not as amazing cuz of all the per but I still see a good amount of ppl use her. Even in higher leagues @sharp jewel

sharp jewel
#

Thanks

#

And do you know a good light support?

#

And no I can't get clipeum

#

:(

ornate oak
#

Elvira is a good Light support. Will cost you 2300 orbs.

high abyss
#

wyrmlad

#

hes elite though

ornate oak
#

Gakora. General Ingvar is still useable, too.

pseudo jolt
#

Wrym really good

ornate oak
#

Cloud.

high abyss
#

wyrm also the best light monster atm so thats a massive plus if u get him

ornate oak
#

He’s tough to get.

pseudo jolt
#

Nah

#

Just buy him fur 35$

#

For

ornate oak
sharp jewel
#

I mean I have 50 cloud cells but won't get him very soon cuz I'm out of light cells and elementium

#

And I'm lvl 69

ornate oak
#

Do you have Ultrabot and VoltaiK?

sharp jewel
#

Nope :(

#

Not voltaik

#

And I'm saving gems for the jokers

ornate oak
#

Ah, okay. Well good luck. Lol

#

Demise is a good Light support.

sharp jewel
#

Yea but I'm not even close to getting her

#

I'm the closest to cloud

#

But can't rank him up

#

So I'm a long way off

#

Wait

#

Do you know if there is any breedable legendary light monster?

ornate oak
#

Yea you’re way off everyone. Just need to grind it seems.

pseudo jolt
#

@sharp jewel

sharp jewel
#

I could get him and rank him up

ornate oak
#

Hasai is breeable

pseudo jolt
#

Buy wrym during the elite days

ornate oak
#

Don’t know the combination, tho.

sharp jewel
#

@pseudo jolt lol

#

I'm f2p

#

So not happening

ornate oak
#

Don’t think he understands that.

#

Lol, so he’s going to keep saying the same thing.

pseudo jolt
#

Buy chest

#

And gamble

sharp jewel
#

No

ornate oak
#

So anyways, Hasai is breedable.

pseudo jolt
#

Or get 200 souls

#

And buy the cells

#

You can get him f2p

ornate oak
#

He’s decent for f2p

mossy sorrel
#

@pseudo jolt easier said then done lol

pseudo jolt
#

Yep lol

sharp jewel
#

Yep

#

I'll look on yt to see the combination for hasai

ornate oak
#

You can Google it my guy.

#

I’m sure somewhere in the realm of Discord the combinations await.

sharp jewel
#

I found it

#

It's goathel and rootziel

#

O have goathel

frozen crane
#

rootziel should be available in the dungeons

signal spruce
#

Guys I m 5600 trophies (best) and I would have my first warmaster what do you suggest (unranked) I hesitate btwn Elvira and ragnarok

jagged lake
#

Ragnarok then thalassa

signal spruce
#

Ok ty

inland trail
#

Elvira>rag until 110 though

signal spruce
#

But positif effect can be easily removed

inland trail
#

People seem to be forgetting that goes for both of them, not only elvira

dry sierra
#

Ragnarok 100 > elvira 100

inland trail
#

Nop

jagged lake
#

@signal spruce rag

#

@inland trail rag

#

Then elvira

unborn quest
#

Wouldn't it be nice if the WMs looked as nice as their dungeon art looks. I mean itd be wonders to elvira, necromancer and Zahra. Especially since elvira's animation seems like she's always 'licking' something šŸ‘€

little berry
#

How much does it cost to get one warmaster

#

Floor 1 and 2

dry sierra
#

2300

little berry
#

Ok

#

Thanks

inland trail
#

I'd do elvira over rag at 100, she's still the best beginner WM
You can even argue her skills are better than rag's at 100, SC if obviously better too

little berry
#

X

mossy sorrel
#

Ragg's skills are better, but I get the point Elvira is a very good support and r0 ragg is also kind of a support, ragg have 2 support skills 1 per and heal like elvira and another regeneration and damage mirror which most ppl don't use in offense while elvira have 3 NER skills with healing, damage boost & precision respectively and she also have photophobic shield, she is pretty annoying when, removing all dots you throw at her again and again

#

Ragg is versatile while Elvira is better doing one job

#

She is soon going to be my 3rd wm ☺

dry sierra
#

Dude she has 2 ners unranked

severe junco
#

that is a lot to read

frozen crane
#

if u already own a good ner monster go for rag

#

if not go for elvira

#

u want a good sc that hides ur team on turn 1? go for dunn ra

tired ginkgo
#

@dry sierra 3 ranked, but he doesnt think about it

dry sierra
#

@tired ginkgo yeah one is ner 50% heal , 1 is ner + dmg boost , and 1 is ner 35% heal dmg boost and prrcision

inland trail
#

@dry sierra she has NER+50% heal, NER+dmg boost and NER+precision at R0

#

So 3

little berry
#

O

#

Do you think remntar is possible with 105 mirak and 105 flamerion with a team speed holder

velvet spindle
#

Yop

little berry
#

?

pine mango
#

Yep

little berry
#

This is good?

inland trail
#

Should be able to beat the dungeon

#

Especially since mirak is a basically perfect counter to remntar

hazy escarp
#

Warthak, Goran, and warrior. Can they beat rag floor 2?

#

Warthak might be R3 by next rotation

misty elm
#

Easily

little berry
#

Yea my team worked just fine

mossy sorrel
#

Lol ppl who didn't know are telling me that I didn't think 🤣 🤣 🤣

#

B4 saying something check if its correct or not lol, Renar and Tyrael

ember plume
#

This big brain time

mossy sorrel
#

🤧

ember plume
#

these emotes kill me

mossy sorrel
#

😮

tired ginkgo
#

🤦

#

who uses 3 ner skills on unranked elvira anyway

inland trail
#

I often do when I run her as support kek
The buffs are also handy

tired ginkgo
#

is your elvira r0?

inland trail
#

On Disp yes
On other accounts she's existn't :emoji_52:

tired ginkgo
misty elm
#

🐷 šŸæ šŸ“ŗ

mossy sorrel
#

@tired ginkgo did I said you must run 3 NER skills, it was about how good supporters they are and if she have 3 ner then I will count it

ember plume
#

Congrats she has ner

#

3

#

I dont know how its si great but whatever floats your both

misty elm
#

I run two NER on my Elvira and the aoe 50% damage reduction with either the Block Light Damage skill or the massive Light attack (depends on the runes)

winter river
#

Any idea what WM revenge is

velvet tide
#

It may be a revenge on rag

#

Cause he stole the warmasters powers

#

Who shuld i go for rag that i already started or remtar or elvira?

inland trail
#

Well if you already started him then finish him
After that elvira

errant parcel
#

I haven't used Elvira since I got my second warmaster

inland trail
#

Actually Varenne has a 100 elvira, but also has 130 metal and light llum and a 120 magic llum so...

little berry
#

How do I rune remntar

hazy escarp
#

@little berry

little berry
#

Ok thanks

ornate oak
#

Warmasters Revenge next week. šŸ¤”

frozen crane
#

?

hazy escarp
#

Maybe it’s the warmasters getting revenge on ragnarok

jagged lake
#

Yh sorry rag

sharp jewel
#

Would my team: lighterium R1 patrion R1 arch Knight r1

#

Win the second Elvira dungeon

hazy escarp
#

Yes

ember plume
#

yes

#

light is good and so is patrion so yes

sharp jewel
#

Nice

little berry
#

Could it be another warmaster maybe?

fiery skiff
#

Maybe

#

Maybe not

little berry
#

Hopefully not

hazy escarp
#

The name really doesn’t show it imo

#

Maybe it’s like enhanced warmasters

#

@little berry

#

Like a stronger barbael with better armor, skill, moves

little berry
#

gulps

#

As if they havent added enough mons

hazy escarp
#

barbael with self pierce, aoe trait disable, and aoe total blind

#

Imagine that

normal pilot
#

Barbael would be OP

#

Wow

#

Never thought I’d say the words

hazy escarp
#

He deserves it honestly

#

How would you make some of the other warmasters op?

frozen crane
#

does abuse bottom activate sherry's amulet or no

hazy escarp
#

No

#

It doesn’t deal damage

frozen crane
#

ok so the best amulet for thalassa is supercharged. got it

hazy escarp
#

Yop

#

Alces also works

frozen crane
#

thalassa prefera stamina over more hp

#

and alces is better off on tanks

hazy escarp
#

Also energizer works well

#

But you’re better off with supercharged at that point

frozen crane
#

energizer is a budget supercharged

#

also one activation of supercharged isnt enough for thalassa to cast abyss bottom

ember plume
#

@frozen crane supercharged best amulet on thallasa

winter river
#

Let’s see if WM revenge is going to save the game or kill it

low sandal
#

It could be the pets for the warmasters

mossy sorrel
#

I want a pet wm

quick scaffold
#

Or a new form of the same warmaster

#

Maybe they all changed their form to take revenge from someone

mossy sorrel
#

Sounds cool

quick scaffold
#

This seems to sound good

mossy sorrel
#

Maybe they trained hard and now back to fite

quick scaffold
#

Yeahhhh

tired ginkgo
#

sounds evil 😈

quick scaffold
#

Exactly

#

I have taken this concept from other games

mossy sorrel
#

It can be p2w so can't say something

quick scaffold
#

Most of the games have characters change their forms for revenge

mossy sorrel
#

More like Anime

#

Characters

quick scaffold
#

YeahšŸ˜‚

tired ginkgo
#

ew anime

mossy sorrel
quick scaffold
#

AWAKENED THALASSA

mossy sorrel
#

Kek

quick scaffold
#

New warmaster type

#

šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚

tired ginkgo
#

oof

mossy sorrel
#

No it should be Extra Broken Thalassa

#

P2ws will go crazy

quick scaffold
#

Yeah an extra way to spend orbs

tired ginkgo
#

extra way to rip the fun of the game

mossy sorrel
#

If that's about orbs I will be ok with it

tired ginkgo
tame whale
#

anyone know what the wm revenge is about?

frozen crane
#

bad event thats what it is

tame beacon
#

No, no one does, even the one saying it’s a bad event šŸ˜‰

frozen crane
#

unless thalassa gets nerf its a bad event

#

kappa

winter river
#

What’s up with people wishing thalassa get nerfed she already is nerfed you’ll realize that when you have her at 120+

frozen crane
#

i want her nerfed for 2 reasons

  1. dominates water element entirely just because of abuse bottom
  2. so sherry can rise and become the best warmaster and get the justice he deserves
#

we dont need to talk about reason number 2

tawny oxide
#

no can do

dry sierra
#

Sherry still cant be even if thalassa doesnt exist

#

ragnarok intensifies

unkempt coral
#

Why would ya want sherry to be top

little berry
#

Why not

winter river
#

Thalassa doominate water wars while everyone forget about rag who doominate everything else sherry sucks even if thalassa didn’t exist

#

Madam fusion >>>>>>>> sherry unless dodge area didn’t exist no need to say anything

#

Since sp fixed missing rates I don’t see where sherry comes to any use cda sucks a random control sucks even more

unkempt coral
#

Agreed tbh

unkempt holly
#

He wants sherry to rise cuz he got ranked sherry, one of his only ranked warmasters and no r4 thal

little berry
#

He should’ve just got thalassa

#

That’s why I’m going for thalassa r3 and rag r3

#

Imagine a warmaster ā€œ killer ā€œ comes out lol , a villain taking his vengeance against each and every one of them

dry sierra
#

Madam way better meta wise then sherry ngl

unkempt holly
#

No need to overhype...madam is not comparable to sherry

dry sierra
#

Whats ur point? U think sherry better??

tawny oxide
#

trait disable way better

storm lion
#

Sherry is better IMO

inland trail
#

He is

#

Madam's AI is even worse than sherry's and he's still better offensively

little berry
#

Individually sherry is better but combined with other madam outclasses him

hazy escarp
#

Huh?

inland trail
#

:Thinkxel:

hazy escarp
#

Sherry is the best magic denier imo

#

But isn’t the best magic monster

#

Also gets hecced by DA

inland trail
#

Fusion definitely doesn't outclass him
She's a lot more restricted as to what you can safely attack with her than with sherry

frozen crane
#

now that they fixed the excessive missing, many say xiron the ruby is better than sherry

inland trail
#

Yeah, but this isn't about her

tame whale
#

if xiron was faster then that argument would actually be a bit more valid

inland trail
#

Although she's the only could defensive magic

frozen crane
#

thalassa is slower than sherry, yet shes better

inland trail
#

Imagine thinking base speed matters :emoji_52:

frozen crane
#

base speed doesnt mean everything

tame whale
#

xiron is significantly slower than sherry and she has no PER which is why sherry is better than her

inland trail
#

Not necessarily

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With sherry you're also using a turn to PER, meaning he can't deny
And she's not significantly slower

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You need someone in your team to have PER, but you don't need deniers with it

tame whale
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well yeah significantly was a reach

frozen crane
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xirons also able to deal with DA better

tame whale
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but xiron has no per that's what i'm saying

inland trail
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Also has more ways of denying

tame whale
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at least sherry has it

inland trail
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Better relic slots

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So overall PER is basically sherry's only advantage now

frozen crane
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xiron normally runs a few single target moves, while sherry's only good single move is a single cda

tame whale
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and speed

inland trail
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Speed doesn't matter

tame whale
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if she was faster than sherry then she'd be better imo

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yes it does

inland trail
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No it doesn't

tame whale
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how

inland trail
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Free rune swap/rune guardian/different rune levels

tame whale
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that doesn't prove that speed doesn't matter

frozen crane
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also sherry has worse stamina management than xiron

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due to relics and higher cost moves

inland trail
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Also AI :beeNut:

frozen crane
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AI bad for everyone tho

inland trail
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Ruby's AI is good, sammy's is decent, thalassa's is good now too

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So you have 3 monsters with relatively good AI

unkempt coral
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I’ve got to say I prefer Sherry a bit because CDA is really powerful and he can do that and block it with his status caster

inland trail
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CDA isn't nearly as powerful nowdays with all the good 0CD skills around

unkempt coral
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Yeah but deniers don’t tend to have 0cd deny skills and they’re one of the biggest threats

inland trail
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Depends

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Sometimes attackers are bigger threats
Like talos, warthak, gortak (if he's ran as an attacker), faraday, hook and more

unkempt coral
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Yeah

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But they are more manageable when they don’t have backup

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Like if I see a wyrmlad in pvp with a full team I would fight it

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Not in a million years

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Unless the team is terrible

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But if he’s by himself

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It’s easy as pie

inland trail
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That all depends on your roster though
But ruby can deal with wyrm and AD quite nicely, sherry can't, although it's not a very significant argument

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From a war perspective at least

unkempt coral
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Yeah

frozen crane
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unless u want to run sorcerer's negation, sherry literally deals no damage to dodge area monsters

unkempt coral
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Ok I’m going slep now

little berry
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@frozen crane Curse of Weakness also will hurt DA monsters if thats what you wanna do lol

tame whale
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you mean curse of decay?

frozen crane
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oh right he also has single curse

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most da monsters should be able to deal with curse easily tho

devout ore
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šŸ¤” šŸ™„

jagged lake
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Yah

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I thought Frosilika has sc dodge area

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Had

devout ore
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She has permanent dodge area

frozen crane
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ur thinking of kozorg that has sc dodge area

little berry
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@tame whale No. Curse of Weakness. Curse of Decay is a different skill.

fiery skiff
mossy sorrel
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Mineral blood @fiery skiff

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CDA is arguably the best Denie effect

fiery skiff
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@mossy sorrel I was thinking same. Thanks.

mossy sorrel
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Np LaughP

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Also CDA has very low chance to miss

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Like very low

pearl prism
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CDA is the best turn 1 denial, but after each monster has had a turn you start running risks as CDA doesn't stop specials

frozen crane
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cda also has more consistency, especially against monsters with certain control immunities

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like thalassa or gortak

inland trail
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CDA won't do you much good against gortak
Just saying

frozen crane
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it does something unlike random control move

inland trail
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Well of course since he's immune to control kek

winter river
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He has high dmg 0CD moves

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So rip anyway

little berry
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Can madam Shademoon and a ts epic take on sherazar floor 2

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Sure.

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Shademoon alone is a counter to Sherezar.

mossy sorrel
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@pearl prism mainly all aoe denie moves and good moves have high CD except some attackers, also other deniel moves are also 1/2 turn denie tho and that's fixed while CDA can be great and don't have limitations on its own just depends on the monster ( i.e., Neobuki she have at least 3 turn CD in her skills, Mirak have 3 on her main deniel skill and 2 turn on other ones)

pearl prism
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@mossy sorrel
While this is true, what i am saying is CDA doesn't prevent specials from occuring, relying on cda is not great because your plan is only fool proof for the first turn of each enemy. After that specials can occur and completely mess up your plan so hard denials are better.

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This is the biggest limitation of CDA and stamina drain. It is relying on rng to stop the enemy doing something.

high abyss
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exactly the reason why patient cyber fell off

little berry
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well patient cyber still has his uses with some of his other skills and with that speed thou this isn't the place to mention pateint cyber as an example

jagged lake
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Long time no see amstex

ornate oak
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Patient is still pretty good. Nanovirus is very troublesome at times.

errant parcel
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How long is break at the end of warmasters session.

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Season

hazy escarp
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About a day

high abyss
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3 days

fiery skiff
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1500 orbs for possible but not guaranteed r1 wyrm or $20 for r2 and some gems guaranteed

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Or neither?

velvet tide
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?

jagged lake
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Gurlik what are you talking bout

fiery skiff
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Do I use 1500 orbs for elvira dungeon for light cells for wyrmlad or just buy 200 light cells is what I was wondering

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But nvm

mossy sorrel
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Just buy light cells