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5 months till I can get r1 thalassa
No she rlly wonāt but k
greeat


P2w or F2p š¤
f2p
Cool
yay
@little berry big congrats 
@little berry whats the name
i just called her thalassa
im not that creative
Octopus waifu
Or tentecal sama
Name it one of those
ok
Which one did you pick
octopus waifu probably
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When i get rag his name is gonna be gag me daddy
@fickle bluff which team did you use in warmaster dungeon
@radiant hill whats wrong with the name
i would say more but itās frijajscking censored
Iām just gonna name my rag smart cyclops
Noice
Nice bros
@Grandmaster
Lol rainbow fros

Interesting.
What are the best warmasters?
@rain roost thalassa, rag, Sherezar
@rain roost depends on there rank
Best r0 wm -
1- Ragnarok
2- Sherezar
3- Remntar
@dusty nymph just check his SC and trait lol
SC skill mirror which is very good and the Special protection trait is very good especially when u have a mega taunt or taunt monster
Elvira is still the best at R0 though
A lot better than remntar or sherezar
For mainly offensive uses tho, in defense she isn't that great with all having per and fast deniers
Cuz tanks take all damage And having permanent protection from one element which is very common, this can help
even without taunt or mega taunt all your monsters are still immune?
so why is special protection better when it's with taunt
taunt or not you still cant get hit by special
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what are the ragnarock floor requirments for elements?
@verbal sky first floor Nature, second floor Earth r1 then Thunder r2 then fire r3 I guess
whats r4 and 5?
R4 is Metal and R5 is Magic
How many orbs for last floor? Floor 6. Tks
@granite tusk 6750
Gonna get rag next week : )
im stuck on this node
its skill mirror and the enemy team has ridiculous amounts of healing
nvm
this node was complete rng apprently lol
Oof
Is Thalassa trait disabled move not only remove trait but also remove status castle effect?
Abyss bottom? Then yes
So she can pierce all of Mega Taunt shield?
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And put speed runes on avaritia
@solar elk i thought ML cant be player at PC anymore.. also how you get 3 level X runes?? š
@queen escarp You can, just download it from microsoft store Windows 10. You might have to change your location
UwU ,how about runes? I need many X runes to strengthen my monsters lol
Well most of them I bought for 345gems
Gj man
How to get past this level? ROFL keeps using a 2 turn timestop on my Gorg
Uriaās Pet then one shots my Gorg
@ember dew use 1 speed on gorg and all ts on mudflow and use relics
I have a Cainās Sword on Gorg just not in the picture
Donāt have runes to swap in

Just keep replaying the battle you might get lucky and hr might do something else
Thats what i did when i got stuck on one of those nodes
2.300 orbs for Lv 100
Oh thanks
Yo
Yay
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When is the next nemesis days?
2 weeks
1 week*
omg i need to hurry
i dont have runes on talos
and i haven't prpared runes for samael
im definetly not going anywhere
Best warmasters?
top 3 currently are thalassa, rag and sherezar
4th one is Gortak
5 x 100 = 800
My man's said 800 when there's only 5 nodes left
I far as I can see youāll need 3784 more orbs to finish it
So they dont go up the more you finish each node?
nop
No
Necromancer, zahra, babari - which warmaster would you get at rank 4 and why?
Help me decide.
necro is the most useful wm out of the three you just mentioned
but it would be better to save orbs for other wms
babari, neo, faraday best thunder mons
I already have all the other good ones
ah, ok
These are the three I am stuck o
i would pick necro just because he's the most useful wm left
An babari our class faraday?
Eh not really outclasses him since they both do very different things
Because faraday is my go to in thunder wars
Iād say heās better but both big good
Faraday a lot better though :PepoToast:
Babari is OK as an offensive monster, not so good on def though
but voltaik > babari according to andrej
ı have a question guys . will sherezars group 4 skill opened at 105 lv can ı pick amy group 4 skill on him what ı want ?
nope
no
they happen in order
one skill per rank

Yes, volt is still a better offensive monster and both succ on def
Having the status of elite/WM/nemesis isn't enough for me, I completley disregard that
i just got warmaster gortak but im not sure wut runes i should use for him as an attacker and would also like some help, also need help with deciding runes for elvira R0
Any runes but it depends on your team
Does thalassa cast mega freeze at the start of battle ?
No

Okay haha
If she would had she wouldāve been op
she is op even without the sc
On the question I asked earlier - would gortak rank 4 be a better choice over babari, zahra and necromancer?
Yez @peak flower
Much better
Yes, but being fun and being good are different things
Thalassa isn't fun to use, but she's arguably the best in the game
I disagree, all fun things to use have some element of usefulness
Because winning is fun
So yes, Babari is both
Babari can remove positive and disable trait which is useful in current meta? Gortak is a hard hitter but canāt PER.
But he has a useful 0 stamina and cooldown negative effects removal. I donāt want to waste my orbs so want to get best bang for buck.
Depends of you're looking to build your roster for war or pvp
Well of course babari is good, but he's not impressive or anything
War wise gortak is easily better
Do you have Rag/Thalassa/Shezza/Remntar/Elvira @peak flower?
Because theyāre all better than Babari and Gortak
I have all those and Elvira at rank 5.
I'd get R4 thalassa/sherry/rag before working on other WMs
Thatās my line up - which is why I am looking for my next WM. Have orbs for a rank 4 atm.
Looking at your profile I'd probably rather get babari now since you have warthak and don't have faraday
But I do have faraday. @inland trail
Oh NVM
I'm rart
Then gortak
And rank the mountainsplitter with the earth cells, he's the best earth attacker and monster
Lol
Rank thalassa
Iām not sure I can get her to 115 tho
My only water monster thatās decent is Gorg
And heās 110 and I can prolly get to 115 but 120 would be a stretch
Then get rag and start ranking him
Thalassa still the best not having monsters for high floors is just a dumb excuse getting an R5 good L is easy
There is also epics
It was eisul vs the three of them hookuai and imigbo didnāt last at all and he single handily whooped them!
how many orbs is an r4 wm?
i know last floor is like 7k orbs but idk how its divided in the dungeon
2400 orbs
Wats the next Warmaster group?
Rag/Zehra/barbael
Does anyone know the speed of ragnarok on the last node of the second dungeon floor?
If you could just pick 3 nemesis which ones would it be?
Sammael PC, warthak MS, Xiron the ruby
^
So what is ragās speed?
Sammy, ruby, llum
Sammy , Faraday , warthak
Guys, is 3 monsters on lvl 110 enough to pass 2nd floor and get warmaster?
Or you need 3 monsters on 130?
Yes
@little berry its enough
But is it possible to get warmaster with 1 lvl 115 and 2 monsters lvl 100? @dry sierra
115 is mop
Babari?
Which one?
If monsters life is below 50% it will deal 3500 physical damage to all enemies at lvl 1
Its jaku sword
Wait, are you saying can you beat floor 3 of rag dungeon with 2 level 100s and a 115@little berry
I need 2 floors for warmaster babari @hazy escarp
Oh, ok
Is it possibke?
Ya
Thanks
A team mate of mine wants Necro because he can resurrect..
But his non-group 4 res skills both have your ally possessed right?!.. so r2 is needed for the propper res skill
@small stag it revives enemys with possession
Rank 2 is needed for the proper Resurrection skill
Any ideas how to rune ragnarok?

Ragnarok need life rune @dry sierra ?
What is fricc? Mine unranked rag.
fricc your rag-kill your rag
That's very helpful thank you
Can you craft onr WM multiple times?
Only once
:(
@fading shell well you can, but you wonāt be able to rank them up
I thought you canāt anymore?
you can't
Oh you canāt?
It was changed sometime ago
If you could people would be flexing their 7 necromancers
Flexing with necromancer 
Lol
i would 100% flex 7 necros
@eager adder i only use baba yaga R1, warrior R2 and koralle R2, no relic except koralle doubel heroim shield relics, low level rune, and win, and yes, that's very tough battle (sorry for my bad eng)
no worries
Got ragggg
nice grabbbb

Now rank get him to rank 1 to be "meta"
eh
Yes
yup
What does meta mean? I just got Rag and I donāt see being able to level him for awhile. Iām hoping to scare people away from attacking me.
@feral flint Meta means the monsters that are currently one of the best and used in PvP by some top players. Ragnarok is one of the best meta monsters. But heās not that scary at rank 0
@hollow adder well Iām still scared at rank 0. š Thank you
@feral flint Yee
I see the 2 top players use him as defense, not offense. Not what I was expecting. I am happy to see Wrymlad is used. Heās one of my new favorites.
Yeah they are probably the most used in top 500 next to Hookuai and a taunt monster
Most Effective Troop Available
That is the original acronym for meta, now it really mean most effective (fill in the blank) available
Team in the blank now

Stop
What?
You're wasting this monsters decent strength by giving it all Ts
you cant do much damage if hes r0 or r1
Ye
Even at R5 he shouldn't have 
Base power hardly matters and his highest damage move is only 60
Rag would've been a good attacker in 2014-15, but now :PepoToast:
DD is cool
Strength is good against thalassa+Dunn combo
Rag r3 for resurrection move or start working on someone else? Pairing with Koralle and Wyrmlad currently until I get a mega taunt monster to swap in. Wyrmlad is r3 with resurrection already, is it worth having another res skill or should I use rag in more of a deny role?
Speaking strictly to PvP usage
Having more res is always good trust me
Res skills have a high cooldown..two res skills will end up in a long cycle of resurrection
In case the opponent fails to make the kill quickly
pairing res rag and wyrmlad res is a force to be reckoned with
extremely powerful combo
Thanks for the input, I'll give it a go!
Yes and wyrm with uriel essence..can basically resurrect a whole team again
I faced such few days ago
Killed rag and koralle
Wyrmlad was resurrected..by uriel essence.
Wyrmlad resurrected rag..
Rag had speed..so rag in turn resurrected koralle
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Why didnāt you cover warthakās ranked skills?
Wanted to show its good even unranked
Also want to do a best Warmaster list at Rank 0
@little berry you should continue with what youāre doing
This video I found it really useful
Thanks @pseudo jolt i dont want people to waste nemesis souls
Is nadielās NER worth running ranked?
The heal / NER? Its great.
I doubt people would waste theirs souls On luci or hydratila
Thanks @little berry Iām considering buying a nemesis and now I know which one to get if i do
Is talos still good?
I feel like the nature one is better than the magic one since he can corrupt
At R0 she sure is
Not really but ok.
Her best move is a team NER
Zahra is far more useful than barbael at r0.
Barbael can aoe trait disable and aoe total blind
Zahra can only apply a single botanophobic shield and aoe poison
Sheās solid in certain wars
With a DA infested meta i don't think his two AoE's aren't really that good. Not to mention he struggles with MT which is also infesting the meta. Sure, Zahra struggles with these as well, but she has better relic slots, a far better trait than him (the 50% Increased life is very helpful when paired with Tanks) The AoA NER can also come in handy, AoE Special Weakness can help set up for your attacker.
R4 only tho
Total Blind isn't even that spectacular. and his trait disable only lasts 1 turn until he gets ranked up.
Zahra is useful for nature wars
But at that point running her is pointless as nadiel does what she does but better
Counters Pyro, some decent moves ranked too
50% increased life is pointless?
since when?
Only Ingenica can TD in fire
Ingenica is far better than Barbael at doing it then.
At least Ingenica's TD comes with a PER
@little berry itās not pointless but not that useful compared to nadielās NER+30% heal
||Are you kwamp btw?||
Sure, it might not be that useful compared to Nadiel's skill, but both of them also play different roles, Zahra is far more supportive then Nadiel.
All im saying is, Zahra isn't trash
I find her more useful than Barbael at r0.
i have both
@pseudo jolt Probably but on this channel the views are not worth it.
Its just for fun
@hazy escarp yes. i am Kwamp.
i mean, your not wrong

hi I can use some advice about nemesis Dungeon, which nemesis ,? what rank?
@regal wraith Sammy and Faraday some of the best for nsd. Talos and most the others will work as well. You'll need to be ranked pretty high with high leveled runes.
Rank 3 and level 8-10 are fine
can anyone share their team that they beat nemises dungeon (or high nodes) with runes and relics please? ty
very @wooden prism
@fiery skiff thank you All of youš
@regal wraith best team imo is 2 Sammy ( fs and pc ) and ruby for nsd
Fs as attacker pc as supporter
ok then i'm working on getting ruby. those here are what i have now
I probably wouldn't use gems, I'm going for cells
But i have 10 Ruby cells,
So only need 25x3 .. but I'm not the right one to answer you window š
Yes
Only one
@regal wraith
That's my nemesis team
I did a task of 2.1k gems @haughty lance and used like 1k gems in duels bro
And I got 3 nemesis
Ruby pc fs
And 600 elementals
Grand duels are a great way to get Nemesis
F2p wayš
@haughty lance nemesis chests are totally gambling
I donāt have any nemesis and got a 100 souls
Which chest should I get?
Will do
Who are the top 3 nemesis monsters currently?
@little berry awsm
Great pull
She is great
Use 3 team speed on her
Great supporter
Yeah sheās good
U can use as attacker too @little berry
She has heavy aoe metal damage and is in light category
So elemental advantage
Great! Thanks guys
Don't forget to like and hit that subscribe button! If you missed it: Top 5 Nemesis monsters video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7I8vp5M9rs&t=12s Rank 1 ...
Nice job on getting hiroimās shield!
Thanks bro @little berry !!!!
Thanks for that one @Bonesaw š
My game keeps crashing against gorthak in the nemesis dungeon someone with the same problem?
No
Best nemesis to buy?
@dense finch samael the plague carrier
thank
@signal heath get a Faraday. Anticipation helps a ton.
Preferably Discharger.
Also wouldn't hurt to rank Samael up to r3 for his TT
Opened 3 chests. Mountainsplitter (yay!), Iron Leader (no clue?), and a dupe Discharger (cells for ranking?)
I really wanted a Sammy or a Xiron, but that's RNG, I guess
Support?
Nice pulls
Oh, yeah?
She could be a support, but I feel like she excels more at being an attacker
With the elemental advantage
Gotcha. Mountainsplitter got me real excited, too. Am I right to cannibalize the second Faraday for cells?
That's what I would do
yeet
That's kinda my thoughts. Didn't see any situation I'd want two
Ooh, nice. I have terrible luck with rune chests
my luck with rune chests is rlly good
i pulled an x ts
n this is like my 6th lvl 9 out of these
Gib me yer luck
@little berry killed faraday too. Not even 2 turns in. Only thing I can do is deny and damage a turn later with warthak. Canāt deny so they killed everyone one shot.
@signal heath if sammy was ranked up you could have won
@little berry explain
Either way the only monster I had faster was ruby. Sammy is slower. Sammy goes after teams still dead.
rip
Talos kills me
so is talos more of an issue than faraday
Thalassa isnāt the issue itās talos but I canāt do damage before he or thalassa
Iāll faraday never went
Idk
2 turns 2 teams dead
oh'
Second team didnāt do a thing so only 1 for the sake of saying
can i win with this for that node ?
anyone know if jazzy mask gets negated if the monster is total blinded
wondering before i enter the barb node
i know it works against evasion even though no damage dealt
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I used pain scouge with samael to ensure quartz land aoe control and trigger jazz mask
my predicament is my faraday with my ts needed to outspeed barb died because the game big dumb and lucifire didnt recharge twice
so i can either spend 70 gems to rune swap and have a better chance at winning
or i can risk being outsped
then otked by talos
@high abyss cann you help with rag ddungeon
yop
115 ruby 3 x speed, 115 sammy pc 2 x ts 1 8 ts, 100 sammy fs 2 x ts 1 8 ts
Does anyone know what team it is where the guy beats like thalassas dungeon with rares i think 1 is cristobal
What is the Best rune for rag?
@gilded palm r0-r2 3 ts/2ts 1 life
Lol
chest I
Yeah
@high abyss it activates after a monster is hit, not after damage is dealt
So since total blind means you miss, it won't activate
@magic thicket ya
Yay 2 left
any advice actually for buying one nemesis chest? or they the same like the last time or did something change in the order?
There the same,if u want a specific monster ur better buying cells not the chest
Now all you need are cells
Nice
talk to a dev. not much you can do about that
I just got him too Nex
How good would this be for getting necromancer? Iāll rank them all obviously
you dont need necro if u have those 3 xd
ikr
the devs not respoinding
how much orbs for rank 4 warmaster ?
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What does everyone think of Nadiel the flooder
Meh
he aight


Gimme
noice
Does revival essence (Urielās Essence) work in Nemesis dungeon
@vital quiver yes
Thansk
I finally have enough souls to get the 25 cells with them. I have enough Xion or Samael cells to craft any of the 3 types. Which of the 2 is the best, and of that one which sub-type is the best?
Ok, I read up some, seems Xiron the Ruby is the best Xiron by far and Samael plague carrier or fever scatter. Guess Iāll get Ruby first.
Have 110 warthak and soon to be 115 Sammy. Should I go for Llum, faraday, or pyro?
pyro probs
faraday then
Is hook, gorg, & Ihtiander a good 3 to use to clear Thalassa floors or is there a better combination?
Thanks.
Hook + gorg, yes it is easy
Only gorg, should be near impossible
OK. Will focus on those 2 and plug in a third.
@frosty dove you can go solo with gorg, its how i got my thalassa
I have a thalassa r1 only with gorg and lord of Atlantis
Just make him go first and give gorg double damage
What is this game called
Monster Legends lmao
Hi guys so I have these monsters and a ranked up burotgor and will have a ranked up hyperia so what do you suggest for me to have like first warmaster (lvl 100)
Since you have a ranked buro and arr gonna get a ranked hyperia go for rag
All u need are some more nature monsters and youll be good
Hatching emerald atm. I have enough cells to either get it to r2 or to get quartz to r3. So I'm wondering r2 emerald or r3 quartz?
Yeah ik. I saw it. Not very good
@fiery skiff none lol
@pseudo joltā
@fiery skiff emerald. Quartz shoudnt even be legendary
Neither
Save your elementals
@fiery skiff if you had to pick one emerald. Pretty good compaired to some legends
Alright thanks
I didn't
@magic thicket hmmmmm I honestly can't remember when I got quartz. May have been from 50% chests. And then emerald same thing. I'm not sure. But I had 70 cells of emerald and decided to just go ahead and get it with the 25 cells
OoF
When is next elite day
End of the month
Which should be next week or the week after
Looks like they abandoned the random Nemesis idea very quickly š
i just got my Xiron the Ruby to r5 free to play
@pallid cairn nicwe
How?

i used Nemesis souls to buy the chest, got Xiron The Ruby, and used my elementium and magic elemental cells
shiba liba that luck you have
gimme some
Is wm Elvira good?
I want to get her 2hen I get a light support
When*
And how many orbs do you need to get in order to gat a r0 WM
I have 1.5k
She's good not as amazing cuz of all the per but I still see a good amount of ppl use her. Even in higher leagues @sharp jewel
Elvira is a good Light support. Will cost you 2300 orbs.
Gakora. General Ingvar is still useable, too.
Wrym really good
Cloud.
wyrm also the best light monster atm so thats a massive plus if u get him
Heās tough to get.

I mean I have 50 cloud cells but won't get him very soon cuz I'm out of light cells and elementium
And I'm lvl 69
Do you have Ultrabot and VoltaiK?
Yea but I'm not even close to getting her
I'm the closest to cloud
But can't rank him up
So I'm a long way off
Wait
Do you know if there is any breedable legendary light monster?
Yea youāre way off everyone. Just need to grind it seems.
@sharp jewel
I could get him and rank him up
Hasai is breeable
Buy wrym during the elite days
Donāt know the combination, tho.
Donāt think he understands that.
Lol, so heās going to keep saying the same thing.
No
So anyways, Hasai is breedable.
Heās decent for f2p
@pseudo jolt easier said then done lol
Yep lol
You can Google it my guy.
Iām sure somewhere in the realm of Discord the combinations await.
rootziel should be available in the dungeons
Guys I m 5600 trophies (best) and I would have my first warmaster what do you suggest (unranked) I hesitate btwn Elvira and ragnarok
Ragnarok then thalassa
Ok ty
Elvira>rag until 110 though
But positif effect can be easily removed
People seem to be forgetting that goes for both of them, not only elvira
Ragnarok 100 > elvira 100
Nop
Wouldn't it be nice if the WMs looked as nice as their dungeon art looks. I mean itd be wonders to elvira, necromancer and Zahra. Especially since elvira's animation seems like she's always 'licking' something š
2300
I'd do elvira over rag at 100, she's still the best beginner WM
You can even argue her skills are better than rag's at 100, SC if obviously better too
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Ragg's skills are better, but I get the point Elvira is a very good support and r0 ragg is also kind of a support, ragg have 2 support skills 1 per and heal like elvira and another regeneration and damage mirror which most ppl don't use in offense while elvira have 3 NER skills with healing, damage boost & precision respectively and she also have photophobic shield, she is pretty annoying when, removing all dots you throw at her again and again
Ragg is versatile while Elvira is better doing one job
She is soon going to be my 3rd wm āŗ
Dude she has 2 ners unranked
that is a lot to read
if u already own a good ner monster go for rag
if not go for elvira
u want a good sc that hides ur team on turn 1? go for dunn ra
@tired ginkgo yeah one is ner 50% heal , 1 is ner + dmg boost , and 1 is ner 35% heal dmg boost and prrcision
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Do you think remntar is possible with 105 mirak and 105 flamerion with a team speed holder
Yop
?
Yep
Should be able to beat the dungeon
Especially since mirak is a basically perfect counter to remntar
Warthak, Goran, and warrior. Can they beat rag floor 2?
Warthak might be R3 by next rotation
Easily
Yea my team worked just fine
Lol ppl who didn't know are telling me that I didn't think 𤣠𤣠š¤£
B4 saying something check if its correct or not lol, Renar and Tyrael
This big brain time
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these emotes kill me
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I often do when I run her as support kek
The buffs are also handy
is your elvira r0?
On Disp yes
On other accounts she's existn't :emoji_52:

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@tired ginkgo did I said you must run 3 NER skills, it was about how good supporters they are and if she have 3 ner then I will count it
I run two NER on my Elvira and the aoe 50% damage reduction with either the Block Light Damage skill or the massive Light attack (depends on the runes)
Any idea what WM revenge is
It may be a revenge on rag
Cause he stole the warmasters powers
Who shuld i go for rag that i already started or remtar or elvira?
Well if you already started him then finish him
After that elvira
I haven't used Elvira since I got my second warmaster
Actually Varenne has a 100 elvira, but also has 130 metal and light llum and a 120 magic llum so...
How do I rune remntar
Ok thanks
Warmasters Revenge next week. š¤
?
Maybe itās the warmasters getting revenge on ragnarok
Yh sorry rag
Would my team: lighterium R1 patrion R1 arch Knight r1
Win the second Elvira dungeon
Yes
Nice
Could it be another warmaster maybe?
Hopefully not
The name really doesnāt show it imo
Maybe itās like enhanced warmasters
@little berry
Like a stronger barbael with better armor, skill, moves
does abuse bottom activate sherry's amulet or no
ok so the best amulet for thalassa is supercharged. got it
energizer is a budget supercharged
also one activation of supercharged isnt enough for thalassa to cast abyss bottom
@frozen crane supercharged best amulet on thallasa
Letās see if WM revenge is going to save the game or kill it
It could be the pets for the warmasters
Or a new form of the same warmaster
Maybe they all changed their form to take revenge from someone
This seems to sound good
Maybe they trained hard and now back to fite
Yeahhhh
sounds evil š
It can be p2w so can't say something
Most of the games have characters change their forms for revenge
Yeahš
ew anime

AWAKENED THALASSA
Kek
oof
Yeah an extra way to spend orbs
extra way to rip the fun of the game
If that's about orbs I will be ok with it

anyone know what the wm revenge is about?
No, no one does, even the one saying itās a bad event š
Whatās up with people wishing thalassa get nerfed she already is nerfed youāll realize that when you have her at 120+
i want her nerfed for 2 reasons
- dominates water element entirely just because of abuse bottom
- so sherry can rise and become the best warmaster and get the justice he deserves
we dont need to talk about reason number 2
no can do
Why would ya want sherry to be top
Why not
Thalassa doominate water wars while everyone forget about rag who doominate everything else sherry sucks even if thalassa didnāt exist
Madam fusion >>>>>>>> sherry unless dodge area didnāt exist no need to say anything
Since sp fixed missing rates I donāt see where sherry comes to any use cda sucks a random control sucks even more
Agreed tbh
He wants sherry to rise cuz he got ranked sherry, one of his only ranked warmasters and no r4 thal
He shouldāve just got thalassa
Thatās why Iām going for thalassa r3 and rag r3
Imagine a warmaster ā killer ā comes out lol , a villain taking his vengeance against each and every one of them
Madam way better meta wise then sherry ngl
No need to overhype...madam is not comparable to sherry
Whats ur point? U think sherry better??
trait disable way better
Sherry is better IMO
Individually sherry is better but combined with other madam outclasses him
Huh?
:Thinkxel:
Sherry is the best magic denier imo
But isnāt the best magic monster
Also gets hecced by DA
Fusion definitely doesn't outclass him
She's a lot more restricted as to what you can safely attack with her than with sherry
now that they fixed the excessive missing, many say xiron the ruby is better than sherry
Yeah, but this isn't about her
if xiron was faster then that argument would actually be a bit more valid
Although she's the only could defensive magic
thalassa is slower than sherry, yet shes better
Imagine thinking base speed matters :emoji_52:
base speed doesnt mean everything
xiron is significantly slower than sherry and she has no PER which is why sherry is better than her
Not necessarily
With sherry you're also using a turn to PER, meaning he can't deny
And she's not significantly slower
You need someone in your team to have PER, but you don't need deniers with it
well yeah significantly was a reach
xirons also able to deal with DA better
but xiron has no per that's what i'm saying
Also has more ways of denying
at least sherry has it
xiron normally runs a few single target moves, while sherry's only good single move is a single cda
and speed
Speed doesn't matter
No it doesn't
how
Free rune swap/rune guardian/different rune levels
that doesn't prove that speed doesn't matter
also sherry has worse stamina management than xiron
due to relics and higher cost moves
Also AI :beeNut:
Ruby's AI is good, sammy's is decent, thalassa's is good now too
So you have 3 monsters with relatively good AI
Iāve got to say I prefer Sherry a bit because CDA is really powerful and he can do that and block it with his status caster
CDA isn't nearly as powerful nowdays with all the good 0CD skills around
Yeah but deniers donāt tend to have 0cd deny skills and theyāre one of the biggest threats
Depends
Sometimes attackers are bigger threats
Like talos, warthak, gortak (if he's ran as an attacker), faraday, hook and more
Yeah
But they are more manageable when they donāt have backup
Like if I see a wyrmlad in pvp with a full team I would fight it
Not in a million years
Unless the team is terrible
But if heās by himself
Itās easy as pie
That all depends on your roster though
But ruby can deal with wyrm and AD quite nicely, sherry can't, although it's not a very significant argument
From a war perspective at least
Yeah
unless u want to run sorcerer's negation, sherry literally deals no damage to dodge area monsters
Ok Iām going slep now
@frozen crane Curse of Weakness also will hurt DA monsters if thats what you wanna do lol
you mean curse of decay?
oh right he also has single curse
most da monsters should be able to deal with curse easily tho
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She has permanent dodge area
ur thinking of kozorg that has sc dodge area
@tame whale No. Curse of Weakness. Curse of Decay is a different skill.
Mineral blood, high wage, or emerald implosion?
@mossy sorrel I was thinking same. Thanks.
CDA is the best turn 1 denial, but after each monster has had a turn you start running risks as CDA doesn't stop specials
cda also has more consistency, especially against monsters with certain control immunities
like thalassa or gortak
CDA won't do you much good against gortak
Just saying
it does something unlike random control move
Well of course since he's immune to control kek
Can madam Shademoon and a ts epic take on sherazar floor 2
Sure.
Shademoon alone is a counter to Sherezar.
@pearl prism mainly all aoe denie moves and good moves have high CD except some attackers, also other deniel moves are also 1/2 turn denie tho and that's fixed while CDA can be great and don't have limitations on its own just depends on the monster ( i.e., Neobuki she have at least 3 turn CD in her skills, Mirak have 3 on her main deniel skill and 2 turn on other ones)
@mossy sorrel
While this is true, what i am saying is CDA doesn't prevent specials from occuring, relying on cda is not great because your plan is only fool proof for the first turn of each enemy. After that specials can occur and completely mess up your plan so hard denials are better.
This is the biggest limitation of CDA and stamina drain. It is relying on rng to stop the enemy doing something.
exactly the reason why patient cyber fell off
well patient cyber still has his uses with some of his other skills and with that speed thou this isn't the place to mention pateint cyber as an example
Long time no see amstex
Patient is still pretty good. Nanovirus is very troublesome at times.
About a day
3 days
1500 orbs for possible but not guaranteed r1 wyrm or $20 for r2 and some gems guaranteed
Or neither?
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Gurlik what are you talking bout
Do I use 1500 orbs for elvira dungeon for light cells for wyrmlad or just buy 200 light cells is what I was wondering
But nvm
Just buy light cells