monster-discussion

[humble knot]

I have Necro R2 yes he gets single ally 100% ress+ double damage+ extra turn

Yes R3

[warped cobalt]

Oh then I have a lot of work to do..

[little berry]

i'd just focus on getting him r0 for now and then focus on ranking after you get the warmasters you want cause a lot of them shine when ranked like Thalassa who becomes god-tier at r3+

[warped cobalt]

I'll show u the list of my all dark monsters ok?

[humble knot]

You can get him at R0 and use him for his trait he is still pretty good

[warped cobalt]

Ok

Just tell me which are best to use after I show u the list

[humble knot]

But believe me he is on a different league at R2

Do you have good Dark Epics

[warped cobalt]

Ok I'll try for that too after I get him first

I have enough heroic orbs for doing many rooms right now

I have Nebotus,Barbatos, Legion,Fenrir And Nishant's Per

[high abyss]

dont get nexro

[warped cobalt]

Pet

[high abyss]

its not worth it

[humble knot]

Tell me about your Dark monsters mostly your best ones

[high abyss]

as a first wm

get ragnarok

[warped cobalt]

It's my second actually

[humble knot]

No he was my first and I love him

[high abyss]

what nats do u have

natures

[warped cobalt]

Cyan nathura Talika Petro Loa

[little berry]

you should get another dark denier other than NP

since Necro shuts him down completely

with his area trait

[humble knot]

Get Nishant's BG

[high abyss]

you should be fine with that team with the right runes

[warped cobalt]

And Drekk

[high abyss]

what are ur available runes

[warped cobalt]

@humble knot nishant bodyguard?

[humble knot]

Yes

[warped cobalt]

Ok and then?

[honest abyss]

Just going to leave this here so you guys can suffer with me

[warped cobalt]

@high abyss I can make runes available by removing them

[humble knot]

Do you have a good dark attacker

[warped cobalt]

@honest abysswhy what happened

@humble knot I think Barbatos may be the attacker

[high abyss]

kevin some guy beat rag with this

[little berry]

Barbatos could be a decent dark attacker

[humble knot]

Good

[little berry]

the wm dungeons aren't that hard tbh.

[warped cobalt]

What the hell really?

They are epics man

[humble knot]

Say that to the 6th floor of Thalassa

[little berry]

okay i will

when i get there

mark my words

[humble knot]

I'm in there it's a bit hellish

[warped cobalt]

@humble knotand then?

[little berry]

floor 6 needs what ranked monsters? 5?

[high abyss]

yes kevin lol

it was difficult he said

[humble knot]

Try an epic as a team speed holder

[high abyss]

but he was able to do it

[humble knot]

Yes R5

[warped cobalt]

Any dark epic?

[little berry]

kk

[warped cobalt]

Oh then I have HERR KOMISSAR

Can he do it?

[humble knot]

I would say Ophiuchus may be good or bonnie bark

Herr will hurt you

[warped cobalt]

I have Bonnie bark too

[humble knot]

Good you're ready to go

Good luck

[warped cobalt]

Ok tell me the team then

Team speed on Bonnie bark

And rest 2?Which should they be?

[humble knot]

Nishant's BG full speed
Barbatos 2 Str, 1 ts
Bonnie 3 ts

[high abyss]

to anyone that has an r3-r4 thalassa what monsters did you use?

[little berry]

@high abyss i have seen someone use natulis-1, stake, and hook for floor 6

[high abyss]

man thats a beastly team

[little berry]

Sadly it will never happen for me

[high abyss]

i think ill be able to do it with gorg and nautilus

and try to trick the thalassa ai with epic and high hp

btw hows nem dungeon goin

[little berry]

i just spent 4700 orbs last week to get sherry r1 and im just trying to get orbs from nsd to finnish rag floor 1

[high abyss]

ah

did u start it yet

[humble knot]

I have a R3 Thalassa and I'm used a riduculous team

[high abyss]

what team

[humble knot]

Planning to get her at R4 using the same team

[little berry]

What team

[humble knot]

Blob with Lvl 6 runes R5
Nautilus R5 with lvl 5 ts
Nanukk R5 lvl 100 only with 2 lvl 5 ts

I know it's stupid

[high abyss]

wait hol up

oh i can get my nanukk to r5

[little berry]

You won with that

[high abyss]

ill do that as a third

[humble knot]

Yes

[high abyss]

small little tip

when volray comes around in team shop

buy his cells

[humble knot]

That Nanukk was able to survive against a Thalassa with abyss bottom

[high abyss]

hes one of the best to use in thalassas dungeon

and hes easy to rank

[little berry]

Ye

i forgot volray existed

[humble knot]

Nahh I'm fine with this team

[little berry]

Is burtogor, baba yaga, slayentaur work for rag

[humble knot]

Blob is powerful enough to slay everyone

[high abyss]

i saw a guy beat floor 6 with nanukk volray and mudflow

[humble knot]

And Nautilus is there to finish the job

[high abyss]

if it wasnt for nautilus being an extra turner

he would be omega wack in the dungeon

prey becomes hunter plus the aoe metal damage is godly

[humble knot]

You won't believe but because of Nanukk's blind Thalassa missed abyss bottom in floor 5 man

But with ts he won't deal a lot of damage

[high abyss]

lol

imma rank mine to r5

luckily i kept buying his cells during cel week

[humble knot]

He is mostly a meat shield but I use him as a Stamina rege station if he survives

[high abyss]

cant u also trick thalassa

into attacking lower level monsters

[dusty nymph]

into monster with lower life

[high abyss]

@little berry u start nsd yet

[little berry]

I did

@high abyss

Good so far

[high abyss]

noice

[little berry]

@high abyss you think you could help me on last node of rag for floor 1

[high abyss]

yop

who u got

[little berry]

Silver leaf

Talika fighteer

[high abyss]

aight what u need help wit

[little berry]

Pretty much rag aleays gets skill mirror in beginning

And then i reckt

[high abyss]

main reason why hes annoying

keep trying lol

[little berry]

Can you do a play by play

I post a screenshot and you say what to do

[high abyss]

sure

[little berry]

Thanks

[high abyss]

sec

gotta chek silvers moves

aoe team skill mirror

[little berry]

Ok

He queens called fighteer

[high abyss]

aoe team shield

[little berry]

Ok

[high abyss]

body rag

[little berry]

Ok

I think aoe posession

[high abyss]

yes

[little berry]

Rag recharged

[high abyss]

stamina drain

[little berry]

Ok

Now

Talikas turn btw

[high abyss]

aoe stun

[little berry]

Ok

Stun missed rag

Now its fighteers turn

[high abyss]

is damage mirror gone?

[little berry]

Of rag yeah

[high abyss]

how bout the other 3

2*

how long left

[little berry]

Still on nature lady

For 1 turn

[high abyss]

attack rag

with whatever attack

[little berry]

Ok

[high abyss]

get rid of him first

if he has archangels blessing itll be annoying

[little berry]

I just played it

And won

Thanks

[high abyss]

lolol

[frosty remnant]

Decided to open a chest

Got a Faraday

Again

[little berry]

noice

[frosty remnant]

Seriously, what the hell is with my luck, I already got the discharged from last event, which I already owned :v

Eh, if it’s any compensation, this gives me the boost I need to unlock mud whip after applying Thunder elemental cells

Faraday is good R3, right?

[little berry]

yep

[frosty remnant]

That’s good, at least this isn’t the worst thing in the world

Just a bit peeved that I drew another Faraday after drawing one last event after already owning it :v

[dusty nymph]

compensation for what

you got a faraday

[high abyss]

consolation*

[winter river]

Faraday loves you

[mossy sorrel]

🤣

[pseudo jolt]

I have 1800 gems, should I buy one nemesis chest?

I have no nemesis chest btw

[dry sierra]

Buy 1st

[little berry]

cool

[high abyss]

noice

[frosty dove]

Jokes on you

I got him two times in a row

[little berry]

I got Discharger then llum the iron leader

Then Sam PC

[native rapids]

Is he good? @frosty dove

[frosty remnant]

He ain’t as good as the fire form

But he still is good

For he has the stun at hand

And by stun I mean freeze

Because they both do the same thing tbh

[little berry]

@frosty remnant dosent freeze do like 1k damage and stun do no damage

[frosty remnant]

Does it really matter though 🤔

[little berry]

@frosty remnant one time i got neo to 700 hp and the freeze would have been helpful

Overall dosent really make difference

But can come in clutch imo

[frosty remnant]

Yeah fair enough

Possession on the other hand...

That’s just annoying

Though the AI recharges more than attacks now

[little berry]

Yeah

[frosty remnant]

(The AI is any monster under possession)

So it’s arguably worse

[little berry]

When i ever i get possessed wyrmlad revives the enemy

[frosty remnant]

But hey, you’re still stopping them, and they may unload their attacks on themselves

[little berry]

Ye

[frosty remnant]

Just recharging refilling the bars though

[little berry]

When mt monsters activate mt

When possessed

Its annoying

[frosty remnant]

What’s MT again 🤔

[little berry]

mega taunt

[frosty remnant]

O ok

Yeah that is the big stupid

[magic stone]

Guys need some tips on defeating elvira i feel like i got good chance of beatting her easily but i dont kno forsure untill ive face her

[little berry]

@magic stone wm dungeon or pvp

[little berry]

hey dudes, i know there are a lot of oppinions and different basic informations but is this --> https://monster-legends-competitive.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Nemesis <-- website for nemesis category still value?

[river jasper]

😭😭 feels bad man

[little berry]

i am sorry for you 😄

@river jasper at least its a SS category so a very stable one 😉

Actually since taking the basic information from the comp website i put on the rating for each Nemesis Chest... Chest Nr. 1 has the best rating, Chest Nr. 2 the worst and Chest Nr. 3 the stablest rating

[robust temple]

I was pretty lucky

[barren arch]

Congratulations I love Ruby.

[little berry]

i got her too

but she is value only at level 130 😦

there best skills come over 100

[inland trail]

@little berry never use the competitive wiki!
It's monster rankings are garbage in every way

[little berry]

then its hard to get in the game as a normal player and not having the knowledge all over the game

[mossy sorrel]

@little berry that's why we have Discord, FB & other community, so you can ask to us

[little berry]

ok so how would you rate my 3 nemesis monster i got from the chests... Xiron the ruby, warthak the mountsplitter and sunbringer @mossy sorrel 😃

[mossy sorrel]

All of them are very good imo

[magic stone]

@little berry duegeon

[little berry]

With wyrmlad its an easy win

[magic stone]

Ikr

@little berry im using him n demise n lighterium

[little berry]

Thats an easy win imo

[little berry]

Mountainsplitter best earth monster for wars imo

Sunbringer is really good too and Ruby is great

thanks @little berry

[inland trail]

Ruby is easily your best @little berry
Then the mountailsplitter and after him the sunbringer

[torn smelt]

I think this one the best talos. Hack a target. Finally got one

[little berry]

gz modesto

[little berry]

Nice

[slim mango]

i got ruby from first nemesis chest

which nemesis chest should i get now

[dry sierra]

2nd

[high abyss]

3 or 1 again

[frozen crane]

got sammy pc. if he doesnt have all 3 rune slots open, hes gonna stay at level one until r4

[winter river]

[frosty remnant]

He’s done cooking :)

[little berry]

nice

[frosty remnant]

Time to blow my dark stash, perhaps Samael with both Faraday variants can get me past node one of the dungeon

[high abyss]

nah u just need ruby

[winter river]

[little berry]

@misty elm nice

[broken knot]

Finally 🥰

[high abyss]

ew

[winter river]

Base fara 😫

[serene meteor]

still stronger than all my mons

[winter river]

Congrats 💙

[frosty remnant]

At least base fara can stall ITC mons :v

It may not be the best of the faras, but it ain’t no pushover, Blinding is no real scoff for an ability

Also, @high abyss I wish tbh Ruby would probably be the second monster I’d soul to, wish I got it from chest 1 but I keep pulling Faraday :v

[misty elm]

Base Faraday has 100% accurate aoe Blind

[winter river]

Hardeneds exists
And blin risky deny skill

[frosty remnant]

Still bypasses ITC though so it’s still useful

[misty elm]

I don't know, 100% accurate skills almost always land for me (except on maybe Bulwark)

And he still has some dots

[frosty remnant]

Personally, all Faradays are useful in their own right-

The electrolyzer bypasses Immunity to control with T-Blind

The obscure applies pestilence to take down E-Turners

And the Discharger kills them before they can lay eggs

[winter river]

And has stun

[limber notch]

Hmm

[broken stirrup]

Nice, nice.

Samael’s the best I have. 😂

[high abyss]

hes the best nemesis lol

[winter river]

Not good unranked tho

[humble knot]

Samael is good unranked he has Pain scourge Death Moratorium and Necromtic Secrets so everything that a support needs in order to keep his teammates healthy and he also has Ergotoxicosis which deals a juicy 70 dmg and applies nightmares and bleeding

[frozen crane]

<o/

\o>

[humble knot]

Congrats

[frozen crane]

dabbing intensifies

feels so good to finally have a 3 open runeslot monster after so long of not having 3 open slots

[humble knot]

I hatched mine yesterday and he has 3 open slots I'm really happy

[solar elk]

Unfortunately I don't share the same luck

[high abyss]

me neither 😦

1 slot fever scatterer

[radiant hill]

sure

[little berry]

^^ My 2nd Faraday.

[winter river]

Congrats on rune slots

[serene meteor]

r0 mountainsplitter skills?

is this a good skillset

?

[high abyss]

id used single handed over halemba

[inland torrent]

^

[serene meteor]

I have nishant sword on him tho

[high abyss]

use dat den

[feral flint]

Open rune slots are random?

[tame beacon]

They are yes, randomly 1/2/3 open

[feral flint]

Aha, ty

[feral flint]

Are heroic dungeons the only way to get warmasters? I don’t have 3 monsters of each element and haven’t been able to participate. Also I only play adventure maps, do I need to get warmasters?

[fickle acorn]

Yes, only place to get Warmasters are in their heroic dungeons.

And if you only do adventure maps, you don't necessarily need them.

[feral flint]

Ty

[pseudo jolt]

Who the heck plays adventure map?

[feral flint]

Well I can’t win any more multiplayer. I’m in the lowest platinum league so now it’s only adventure map

[little berry]

why not play the adventure map? Free loot is always good. levels don't matter much anyways.

[feral flint]

Maybe it’s called legendary league, I’m not sure

[dusty nymph]

probably champion 3

[feral flint]

It’s legendary 4. I found the rankings

[crystal vigil]

Well adventure map is super easy so you'll be done with it pretty quickly

Don't forget about team wars though

[feral flint]

I’m not on a team. I just play adventure until I can get more monsters

[pseudo jolt]

Oof

[high abyss]

hehe

rip

[little berry]

OwO

same thing happened to me too

[winter river]

Cute design his adult form is ugly

[pseudo jolt]

Lol

Screw me

Now I have to waste 40 gems

[radiant hill]

nem or warmaster

[high abyss]

what exactly is your question

[pseudo jolt]

Probably is asking what’s better

@high abyss

Both are really good @radiant hill

[tame whale]

@radiant hill warmaster

[frosty remnant]

He be hatched :)

[fickle acorn]

[frosty remnant]

It’s my second new nemesis

And 5th overall

Since the other 4 were Faradays

Two from unlucky chest pulls

And two from the original offer

[fickle acorn]

When you have 4 and I have 0.

[frosty remnant]

Oof, keep working for it Alex

[pseudo jolt]

@frosty remnant

Good job on the Sammy

[frosty remnant]

Thank

[pseudo jolt]

And good job on the faradays

Is it the discharger or no?

[frosty remnant]

3 earth, 1 dark

From the og offer, I got both of the variants

In my attempts to get a new nemesis, I opened 2 of the chest 1 and they were both earth Faraday

[pseudo jolt]

Oof

Mine giving me one lol

Mind*

[frosty remnant]

It’s like Faraday has spiked odds

[frozen crane]

at least u didnt get hydratila

[frosty remnant]

What’s wrong with hydra 🤔

[high abyss]

nothing

i got 2 rubys

W

[little berry]

Nothing is wrong with the Hydra in chest 1, but the other nemesis' in that chest are far better than him.

[little berry]

^

[winter river]

^

[hazy escarp]

Should i?

[little berry]

what warthak is it?

oh MS nvm

yeah i would tbh

[high abyss]

i wouldnt

perfect petroglyph isnt used often

if u plan on getting him to r3 yeah if not no

[little berry]

Isnt perfect r3

[high abyss]

perfect r2

[little berry]

^

[high abyss]

two handed r3

[little berry]

Oh

Im dumb

[high abyss]

i want a warthak

[little berry]

I want faraday

i want a Llum

and a Pyromancer probably

[high abyss]

i want pyro, IP and mountainsplitter

i have like 500 nature cells

but i dont wanna use them on flooder

[little berry]

O'riley?

[hazy escarp]

What?

[high abyss]

dont have him

[little berry]

Im so tried

2 hours sleep and a red bull

[hazy escarp]

Who should I go for next? An elite ( I only have wyrmlad) or another nemesis which I only own warthak?

[high abyss]

hard choice

id get sammy

[little berry]

Or ruby

For nsd

[high abyss]

u already have wyrmlad

[hazy escarp]

Don’t need ruby imo

Unless I want sherry

Which I don’t

[little berry]

Ruby and Sherry two best in magic

[hazy escarp]

I know, but I’m not really lacking in magic, I have dungeon master, lumoona, gonna get madam fusion, and a R1 eggeater

In particular

You know what, I might go for Cain or Sammy PC

[little berry]

I wouldn’t do Cain

[hazy escarp]

Are any of the elites worth it?

[solar elk]

Wyrmlad / Dunn Ra maybe gorg

[little berry]

Aside from Wyrm which you already have Dunn is really good

Gorg and Ziz are pretty good too

[hazy escarp]

I think Dunn ain’t so great with Eisul coming out but I might go for Gorg but probably just Sammy

[little berry]

Going for Sammy is fair

[hazy escarp]

It’s sad that most of the elites are attackers

[little berry]

Dunn is still great, think about wars when you cant use Eisul.

Dunn is still gonna be great tho since Eisul is in different element/books

O

[hazy escarp]

You’re right there, probably gonna stick to Sammy tho

[little berry]

fair enough

Do i need Llum Magical Matriarch if i already have a r1 Al canine and r1 Saika as my Light deniers?

@little berry nah

Hmm, i'll probably get Iron Leader then since my only viable Light attacker is r2 Lady solaris and she's situational.

@little berry what about wack the first

he's kinda poopie until i decide to either rank elvira and then him or kill his brothers and then rank him.

he gets good at r2 mines is only r1 :C

Kill wack 2
and 3

b...but they're a family :C

@little berry they wont be dead they will live on inside wack the first

you right

i must consult the council about this

The council if wacks

[pseudo jolt]

Which elite should I go for?

I have none

[little berry]

Wyrmlad is good if you can rank him.

Dunn is a good one aswell

[pseudo jolt]

Who’s the best elite?

[little berry]

what element are you lacking in?

[pseudo jolt]

None really

I just want to get an elite

[little berry]

Best elite imo would be wyrmlad. DA, Decent relic slots, great moves when ranked

[pseudo jolt]

I’ll have 20 more dollars to spare

Should I try to buy Xiron the ruby cells or another elite?

[little berry]

thats up to you really, if you need a magic denier then get ruby if you wanna get another element monster then get another elite

[deft nymph]

Every time I bought something I never got it

[little berry]

me personally would get Ruby purely cause my only magic deniers are 110 DM and 105 zeighar

and i already have a few elites

Ruby also needs to be ranked to be good, whereas someone like Dunn Ra is good unranked so keep that in mind.

[pseudo jolt]

Eh I’ll probs go for ruby

@little berry

[little berry]

nice choice 😄

[pseudo jolt]

Can I buy the $40 dollar pack twice

[little berry]

yeah i believe so

i brought the $10 pack twice so i don't see why the $40 pack would have a limit

@little berry i'll probably extract the two gold slave wyrmlads and rank Wack The First up, it'll be a sad day

A day of mourning

😭😭😭😭

[warped cobalt]

I am stuck!😢😢

In the floor 1 stage

After 50% completion of floor, the automatic status is evasion to all

And I can't deal with it

What should I do?

Please help

I start first and my evasion disappears and then they hit me with ease

Help me get through necromancer dungeon 😭

I am so close but stuck in this node

[high abyss]

dont start first

swap runes

[frosty dove]

I can see why

Wait what your runes

[glad saddle]

I'm stuck on last node of wm neccy floor 1 I got rank 2 dr mari mommy and general nish

[little berry]

@glad saddle post a ss

[jagged lake]

@warped cobalt only. Way your gonna beat it is by not going first or someone who can remove pe

[warped cobalt]

I managed to clear it somehow

First step to success

Now need to focus on ranking up those pretty monstees

Monstera

And I want to share my experience with u guys,though evasion was gone I was suffering from the life draining problem due to different status

And I want to share that instead of legendaries.,epics were the ones which were ranked,that led me to victory in the remaining nodes

I strongly suggest you guys to constantly work on your dark epics for necro's dungeon as well

Thay are extremely important and are gonna help you much in future

[humble knot]

Gj Kevin but the second floor won't be easier so if you come to lose a battle just redo it untill you get right those WM dungeons are sometimes luck dependent

[jagged lake]

Yh

[slim mango]

got my rank 1 necro

[little berry]

nice

[little berry]

Which are the best to the worst warmasters ?

well the best 3 are Thalassa, Sherezar and Ragnarok. idk about the rest tbh.

depends on the ranks aswell

[pseudo jolt]

I would say necro or zahra

[little berry]

i'd say Barbael is probably the worst tbh

No way.

And are you forgetting Barbael, yeah?

[pseudo jolt]

I considering in pvp utility

Im*

But yeah barbael

Is trash

[little berry]

Zahra is better than Barbael considering PvP utility honestly.

the 50% extra life is great when paired with tanks which are now common thanks to MT & Taunt traits

Zahra is better than Necro too

I heard necro is trash for a warmaster

Is that true ?

[winter river]

Yea trash

[little berry]

Thanks bro

I’ll get thalassa and rag

Necro is pretty bad, his A.I isn't helping him. Samael being the arguably better ress monster also isn't helping his case. His area trait also doesn't do him any favors since possession isn't used that commonly (i don't think).

Nah. Necro is great. His AI is trash tho.

[subtle crow]

What about Elvira?

[little berry]

She's a decent supporter.

could be an attacker when ranked

[subtle crow]

And you can take advantage with Burogtor with the immunity to blind

[covert dune]

If you're stuck in 2016 sure

[little berry]

is good for a r3 Llum Magical matriarch or should i run

also what runes should i run on Hydratila Boltcaster?

Hydratila is an attacker, so...

Which elements I need on the floors to get ragnarok to rank 5.?

[sleek coral]

Am so close to getting nercmoncer

Am so close to getting necromancer

[pseudo jolt]

Just need 420 more

Why didn’t you go for someone else?

[hazy escarp]

Why does Zahra feel so undertuned compared to the other warmasters?

[tame whale]

@little berry she has some support skills and doesn’t really have heavy dent skills so she’s a secondary denier/support

[inland trail]

About WMs, necro is easilty the worst
My top 10 is:
Thalassa
Ragnarok
Sherezar
Elvira
Gortak
Remntar
Barbael
Zahra
Babari
Necro

[short canyon]

i think ragnarok is the best one against bosses, and tanks

he has the attack when he removes 75% health from target

[inland trail]

This is in general though

[winter river]

Ramntar is better than Elvira

[echo dragon]

🤔

[little berry]

Babari in 9th big nop

[crystal vigil]

barbael is surprisingly high

[strong pine]

babari better than zhara

zhara big no no

[hazy escarp]

Babari is worse than Necro imo

[little berry]

Necro is way worse than Babari

[inland torrent]

^

[humble knot]

If you have another revivor with Necro they can keep bringing each other back

so he is not that bad Idon't know why people blast him so much these days

[hazy escarp]

At least Necro can turn transfer and has an amazing revival skill. What does babari have? @little berry

[humble knot]

THree extra turns and some shock skills

[inland torrent]

damage mirror

thats all lol

[humble knot]

If Necro has a SC I think people would like him more

[hazy escarp]

What would it be?

[humble knot]

I don't know tbh but anything would have worked

[little berry]

Damage mirror so Volt and Zyla can’t do much, Faraday is gonna be a draw at best, team torture immunity, trait disable + extra turn, PER and blind + extra turn, good relics

[humble knot]

A staff is not good in your opinion ?

or an amulet

[little berry]

Barai (fully ranked) is the best Thunder monster, Necro isn’t even top three in dark

I didn’t say Necro’s relics were bad tho

[high abyss]

babari has torture immunity lol

[humble knot]

I 'm pretty sure that you used to like him

[high abyss]

extremely powerful in this meta

[little berry]

I like him, but he’s not very good comparatively

Problem with Necro is his Ai is garbage so he’s pretty irrelevant on defense, and revive while you can pull off some great combos with occasionally shouldn’t be your main gimmick

[humble knot]

When he came out Necro officially killed all possession monsters after his release

[high abyss]

babari has water hater too right

[little berry]

Yop

[inland torrent]

ye

[high abyss]

70 damage + water hater before damage

[inland torrent]

yep

[fickle acorn]

Thunder advantage + Water Hater.

More damage.

[high abyss]

😮

[humble knot]

With my trophies I lose at least 1 monster at the start of the battle so his reviving move comes in handy

i bet that 70 percent of people who blast necro don't even have him

[high abyss]

why use necro

if u have sammy

thats the main argument against necro

sammy is just better

[little berry]

Or even Dunn

[humble knot]

5T CD rezz move seriously ?

I have all of them

[little berry]

Necro can revive but Dunn is gonna keep anyone from dying in the first place

[high abyss]

he can keep his team alive

you dont need a res

if u have death moratorium

[little berry]

Sammy’s rez skill is a fallback, his skill set isn’t based around it like Necro

[humble knot]

Not with a crazy attacker with 15000 power and a wrecking 45-50 aoe

[little berry]

At that point Necro is gonna die too tho

[high abyss]

if necro gets cda

hes useless

[humble knot]

Not with Wyrmlad on the field

[high abyss]

especially if you are facing a rag

that 0 turn extra turn will bite you in the butt

[humble knot]

My necro also have 80K life so he won't die easily

[high abyss]

if u need to res ur teammates

what if both ur teammates die

and its just necro

against an anticipator

[humble knot]

I rez wyrmlad and he rezz Raggy

or if necro dies after he revived Wyrmlad I can bring him back

[high abyss]

and if he gets cda

necro

[candid oasis]

just ressurect not kill enemy

[high abyss]

you are arguing against sammys 5 turn cd

when necro also has 3-4 cd

not to mention the biggest flaw in necro

[humble knot]

That doesn't happen a lot usually the enemies go for Wyrmlad for single targeting CDA

[high abyss]

you need to rank him up for him to be useful

and im not wasting orbs on necro

when u can rank sammy with cells

[humble knot]

Have him at R2

[high abyss]

thats what

2400+3500 orbs?

yeah no

could be put to use elsewhere

[humble knot]

Already spent orbs on Necro I have a Raggy and gonna have a R4 Thalassa soon so I'm not yet regretting my decisions

[inland torrent]

4700 orbs up to floor 3

[humble knot]

I knew that you don't have him you didn't test him to see his potential

[high abyss]

thats because frankly

the other warmasters are more worthwhile

[little berry]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[humble knot]

Zahra ? Barbael?

[high abyss]

zahra is good

yall trippin if u say shes bad

imo barbaels trait alone makes him better than necro

[humble knot]

I know but ot better then Necro I love her 50% life increaseand gonna get her before Gortak and Barbael

Damage increase better than possession immunity say that when you face a Hackster

[high abyss]

does that matter if the hackster is dead

50% damage bonus onto a 12k str monster

and just sayin

if this whole argument sparked cuz of andrej

its pointless

dude said voltaik is a better attacker than babari

[fickle acorn]

[little berry]

Oof

[humble knot]

Ok ok you're right Nero is bad just give me a moment to log into the game and sell him I'll make sure to inequip the runes and give them to Hayman

[little berry]

Bruh moment

oof

You get your runes back when you extract, do you also get them back when you sell?

no

[humble knot]

If you're convinced about something than I can't change your mind but you are really missing something

[fickle acorn]

Nom

No.

Oof

[hazy escarp]

Necro stats are awful btw

[humble knot]

Ahh here we go again

[little berry]

necro has a great design at least

[hazy escarp]

He does, he looks awesome

[inland torrent]

not my favorite, but he does look good I agree

[little berry]

^

[humble knot]

I will add only one thing for those who are intrested in getting Necro make sure you have enough for a R2

It's all against me when it comes to how good Necro is

I'll probably need someone to help...

[hazy escarp]

I said Necro was better than babari tho

[humble knot]

At least someone values him a little bit

[sand coral]

Necro isn’t bad, he just isn’t as valuable as most of the other WMs and isn’t really a priority to get.

[humble knot]

He is a year-old monster of course he would lose some value

[high abyss]

insult to injury for me

my highest ranked monsters are dark

that included my sammy helgudin and others

[humble knot]

Last year I was following the leaks Necro used to be ground breaking before he was officially realeased

[little berry]

necro was like my 4th wm lol

[sand coral]

Nothing to do with being a year old. WMs like Thalassa, Sherezar, and Ragnarok are just way better investments for your orbs than Necro (somewhat depends on your roster of course)

[humble knot]

His TT skill gave him evasion he had a single 50% ress move in skills G1 and his aoe revive was 100%

I have Raggy and Thalassa and I know what I'm talking about

But really man the Necro roasting thing got out of control everytime they talk about him they just say he is bad his a.i is stupid(It's obvious because he relies on extra turns)...

[little berry]

ok

I have never had trouble beating him so far, I don't even know his moves.

[hazy escarp]

Tbf he’s roasted for a reason

[humble knot]

That's the problem people don't even know what he has to offer

[little berry]

That's why I'm not saying whether he's bad or good, all I know is that I haven't had trouble beating him.

[humble knot]

He has a TT skill a single 100% revive+DD+extra turn an aoe 50% revive and a self extra turn+ NER 0 CD he also has 70 dmg life steal and 55 dmg life steal

He also has anticipation and area possession immunity if you didn't know

[little berry]

i lowkey only got necromancer just for his design

His role can easily be replaced by someone else. He won't make for a good attacker and Ragnarok can both resurrect and TT, it would be a waste to fill a whole monster slot with him, it's better to make a team that has his skills in it.

he's easily one of my favorite designed warmaster.

[humble knot]

Got him cus of his design and skills cus of him I was able to reach L4 when he was just at lvl100

I'm crying man

[high abyss]

i mean

[hazy escarp]

Mine too @little berry, I really only dislike gortak’s design. It looks like a lame warthak

[high abyss]

l4 aint that hard to get in to

i got in with 2 level 85s and a level 100

[little berry]

Hackster, Kihaku and Flambe at lvl 100 are enough for L4 or something like that

[humble knot]

You are hard to convince if I say that Marihelson has an aoe 100% insta death as a regular skill I bet you will believe it

[little berry]

What?

[hazy escarp]

^^

[high abyss]

that bamboozled my brain

you just contradicted yourself right away

you are hard to convince but youll believe it?

huh

[little berry]

That made 0 sense

Please elaborate dude

[high abyss]

[humble knot]

I know you win I'll sell Necro I'm done

[little berry]

yeah i really dislike Gortak's design as well as Thalassa's xP

[high abyss]

i like gortaks design

he punch ground

[hazy escarp]

He slams the ground

[high abyss]

he eat rock

[little berry]

yum

Gortak and Warthak both look really angry

[hazy escarp]

Am I the only to find Zahra‘s eyes really creepy?

[high abyss]

poob

[little berry]

remntar's design looks really plain

[humble knot]

It's my turn to ask what does make other WM better than Necro( Don't tell me about Thalassa Raggy Sherry)

[hazy escarp]

He thicc tho

[little berry]

Fat blob tryna hide it by wearing tight armor

[humble knot]

Let's start at lvl100 what does other WM do?

[little berry]

Gortak is great because he's immune to control has a 0CD 0 Stamina NER even at R0, which makes any torture/control effects useless

He can deal damage as well as megastun

[humble knot]

Lvl 100

[storm lion]

But Gortak really only gets op with the aoe megastun

[little berry]

At lvl 100 he'll just spam NER

[humble knot]

What WM do you have ?

[little berry]

Idk his other R0 moves

Barbael, Thalassa, Ragnarok

[humble knot]

Rank?

[little berry]

Thalassa 2, Rag 1 and Barbael 0

[humble knot]

Sorry I seem to be curious

[little berry]

barbael big succ

I got Barbael when he was new and I thought he was good because he looked good

[humble knot]

Why did you get Barbael

[little berry]

That was a long time ago

barbael was my first wm

Same

[humble knot]

Did you regret that?

[little berry]

Yes

not really

I wish I spent those orbs on a R0 Sherezar instead

i regret not sticking to 1 warmaster and ranking that 1 instead of collecting 7 r0 warmasters xD

[humble knot]

From his release Barbael didn't impress me

[little berry]

At that time I judged monsters by their looks and never checked moves

I wasn't into the game

barbael was the easiest for me to get so i said why not

[humble knot]

I have R3 Thalassa R0 Elvira R0 Raggy R2 Necro and I don't regret getting them

[little berry]

Oh wait I also have Elvira

Lol how could I forget

i have r0, Raggy, Elvira, Barbael, Zahra, Necromancer, Sherezar and Thalassa.

At R0 obviously

Ranking Elvira is the biggest waste

gonna get r1 thalassa next time she rolls around

[humble knot]

I always talk about that but my Thalassa will be R4 soon and I will wreck those P2w players

[little berry]

Im hoping to get her R3 next rotation

[tawny oxide]

is thalassa the best wm at r1 ?

[storm lion]

Nope

[little berry]

P2W also have Thalassa's

[humble knot]

I just need less than 800

[little berry]

Ragnarok is best at R1

i kinda wanna rank Elvira honestly

At R2 Sherezar and at R3+ Thalassa

[humble knot]

I can use Dunn to tank against Abyss bottom

[little berry]

she's one of my favorite wms and i could always use the light cells fr wyrmlad 😄

But she sucks

for*

[hazy escarp]

high pressure fluids you @humble knot

[humble knot]

Unless you can get her to R2+ don't do it

[little berry]

I would rather have necro than Elvira

i still like her support skills, the evasion is just a bonus

[humble knot]

Hook comes to the rescue

@hazy escarp

With 13000+ power he will disepower her

[tawny oxide]

unless you also play with dunn

[little berry]

Why hook?

[storm lion]

Dunn ra and Hookuai is just cheap

[little berry]

Hook does bad against Elvira

She applies the light shield and hook can keep hitting all he wants

Especially when there's megataunt

[humble knot]

We are talking about Thalassa but Hook can deal up to 50k dmg with no buffs using Deadly interruption

[little berry]

I beat Hookuai's with SX runes and max Cain's sword and Uriel's by using mirak

Once he's blinded there isn't much he can do

And he doesn't have ner or per

[hazy escarp]

What is power of deep’s buff?

[storm lion]

Double damage precision positive effects protection I think

[humble knot]

Dmg increase+precision+PE protection

[little berry]

Does he also get evasion?

[storm lion]

No

[little berry]

Then blind him

[humble knot]

Hook need allies to set up for him you can't relly on a single monster to do everything that's the mistake that most of the players do they think that a single monster can deny attack support and tank

[little berry]

He really isn't that hard to deal with depending on the set up

When they use him with Dunn Ra it's pretty futile

[humble knot]

One of his best allies is Thalassa TC will give him freeze hater and remove the debuffs and then she can megafreeze all enemies

[little berry]

Yeah but Thalassa is the solution to everything

[storm lion]

Hookuai is best paired with Dunn Ra tho

[humble knot]

When he goes hook will eliminate everyone with 120k+ dmg aoe

[little berry]

She's a counter to pretty much anything and a good ally for any monster

:/

[humble knot]

That's what I usually do Thalassa Dunn and Hook

That's the point

[river aspen]

@humble knot Man U smart I could do thallasa hayman and treezard and beat masters best team

[pseudo jolt]

Is hook good?

[little berry]

Very

[humble knot]

Lol I'm too dumb to think about a strategy like this 😂 thank you @river aspen

[river aspen]

😂😂😂😂

[radiant hill]

bro that gaara pfp is fire 🔥

@river aspen

[hazy escarp]

Can we talk about elites in this channel?

[winter river]

Nope

[river aspen]

@radiant hill man thanks bro ❤❤❤

[shy lion]

please set it as a warmaster - nemesis - elite

chat

[little berry]

👍 👆

[devout ore]

[frosty remnant]

Intense ranking session in progress, please stand by

Tbh good thing I had that elementium saved up :v, I can Sammy R3 now

[little berry]

nice

i had to pay $20 for my r3 sammy

[frosty remnant]

I had 220 dark cells before I started ranking Sammy

[little berry]

i had 190\

[frosty remnant]

Honestly it’s probably a good thing I got those faras from the nemesis chests, I can have both at r3 now

Since I would’ve been 200 or 100 off fara r3 otherwise

[little berry]

oh

[frosty remnant]

Eh, still unlocks mud whip though

[dry sierra]

I used 120 dark cells on sammy ds

Now i hab 250

To spend on pc

Big mistake

[little berry]

@dry sierra rip

[frosty remnant]

The duo has been ranked, now Sammy is going into the chamber one last time for R3

[winter river]

Solitary confinement

[frosty remnant]

Sammy deserves it for eating the last pizza roll

[slim mango]

i just got talos

should i rank him up with elemental cells?

and what runes should i have on talos

[kind crane]

Which one?

If it’s basic then no

I’d say basic talos is the worst nemesis

[humble knot]

Nadiel The Deforestor is as bad too

[kind crane]

Nah it ain’t

[hazy escarp]

Xiron the quartz is the weakest nemesis

[slim mango]

atleast it have laying odds

base form nadiel is worst

i only have 2 nemesis

ruby and base talos

[hazy escarp]

That’s all quartz has, at least deforestator has team NER+ 30% heal and aoe total damage reduction and aoe guard down

[slim mango]

but the things base nadiel have arent really strong

on the other hand laying odds is a really good skill

[small stag]

If base Talos is your only Nemesis, still not worth ranking with cells?
Or would it then be better to do Scrapp warrior as a strong Metal attacker.. or just none xD

Maybe Flamerion or Makugan

[inland trail]

Maku or scrap
Base talos kinda trash

[frosty remnant]

Talos will have a bit of utility in the wedo book wars, but not much else

[frosty remnant]

Sammy hype

[unkempt coral]

Bwep

[hazy escarp]

Is it a good idea to get r3-4 Eisul to get R1 Thalassa? I currently have R2 zimnaya, blob, and Lord of Atlantis

Or just get nitro?

[pseudo jolt]

Get eisul

Unless you lack a good fire attacker

[frosty remnant]

Tbh to me the elite is always the best pick

Primarily since they’ll be extremely hard to obtain after the maze

[pseudo jolt]

But the elite here is so underwhelming

But still good nonetheless

[hazy escarp]

Also, elite is really just a label to make monsters look more appealing

Besides rank up skills

[frosty remnant]

Fair enough

[hazy escarp]

If I bred talos, I would get nitro

[frosty remnant]

Silverleaf was good, but so was Zizania, so I went for them :v

Just to save the pain that’ll be getting it later

[hazy escarp]

I got neobuki and r2 silver

[pseudo jolt]

In this case, eisul is probably the best

[hazy escarp]

Eisul is nuts

[frosty remnant]

Fair enough, I’ll take another look at the two

[hazy escarp]

I think Eisul is good as he is not entirely weak to PER

[frosty remnant]

Yeah just looked at the water things skills, he definitely seems to be the super freaking annoying type of monster

[hazy escarp]

Especially with his aoe blind and single mega possess+ total blind

[little berry]

Doesn’t really matter if they’ll be hard to obtain afterwards if they weren’t good enough to go for in the first place tho

[quartz burrow]

What is the best light attacker to get for warmaster elvira dungeon?

[little berry]

someone with PER is generally really good for Elvira's dungeon, Like Bella Baal or Layth. If you already have someone else who has PER (Like Hasai who's breedable) then someone like Lady Solaris would help out a lot as she has access to Winged Hater which could potentially OHKO Elvira. Taiga can also work.

[dusty nymph]

elvira is also good support too she can give ur whole team evasion if you can use her

[little berry]

Using Elvira in Elvira dungeon

Big brain move

[dusty nymph]

yup

[fading shell]

You can only use Warmasters in Ragnarok dungeons all others are impossible to use

@quartz burrow I really liked Mishka, Rocigon and Al Canine, all nodes were done in 4 turns

[silk remnant]

I used Draghar, Wrymlad and hasai

[devout ore]

How much orbs required to get me to rank a Warmaster to r2 if I completed the second floor?

[little berry]

@devout ore 5900

that is if you finished both floors 1 and 2

[devout ore]

Ok cool

[hazy escarp]

will R2 zimnaya, R2 blob, and R3-4 Eisul be able to beat Thalassa floor 3?

[devout ore]

Hope so

How difficult is floor 3 and 4 of Necromancer

[little berry]

@devout ore it depends on your mons

[devout ore]

Hmm

R2 Pierceid🤔

[little berry]

@devout ore r2 piercied and what else

[devout ore]

Just her

:loafwoke:

[little berry]

@devout ore your not gonna make it with her only

[devout ore]

Yes I am

I put r2 tyrannosaurs with Teamspeeds

Chacharealsmooth

[little berry]

if you gonna kill with cda + death countdown the reflection nodes with reflect it back to you

and they will always have neg removal

if you had bonnie bark with piercied you possible could do it

@devout ore

[devout ore]

Reflection nodes?

Or random positive effect nodes?

I'd just use The AoE possess then

[winter river]

Artifact node

Control immunity node

Most of darks are immune to possession etc....

[hasty dock]

Don't do Necromancer dungeon unless u need Dark cells, or u're p2p with the other WMs at max potential

Thanks to the wonderful A.i my first ranked WM is sitting in his habitat gathering gold, and occassionally comes out of retirement as an attacker

[little berry]

oof

Oof

[dry sierra]

Its not worth it to spend 2300 orbs on bad wms lol

Its like around 900 gems

[hasty dock]

Well, in his glory days, he used to gurantee me L3 through defence only...

[inland trail]

:emoji_52:

[frosty remnant]

tbh how bad is the necro AI

🤔

[cedar dock]

he gud

[hasty dock]

Bad enough that he doesn't revive his ally, TT or use Vaporo Corporis at all in presence of Anticipation

Funny how he behaves so differently from his undead friend Sherezar, who insists on using Great Dispel at the slightest opportunity, viz, an Anticipation monster under Control or about to die from DoTs, who then ofc comes back with a vengeance

[stoic path]

Which is better to get - rank ragnarok from r4 to r5 or get thalasa r2-3?

[shy lion]

Imo thalassa r3

[fiery skiff]

Is there a chance I can still get talos? Will the book still be available when nemesis days come?

[shy lion]

Idk

[little berry]

No

Elite days are next then you’ll have to wait another month for nemesis days

If SP gets greedy though they just might make a random sale

[fiery skiff]

Hopefully

[pine mango]

Am planning to get rag to rank 1 so my only thunder monster that i have rank 2 is noebuki and planning on getting alex bone to rank 2 (might take a while tho) what are some thunder good monsters to get to rank 2

[fiery skiff]

Faraday

The other Faraday

And than the last Faraday

And than idk

Barbari or whatever his name is

Thunder wm

[strong pine]

lol sum nice help

[tame whale]

@pine mango any thunder monsters you currently have?

it could save the time of trying to get one

[pine mango]

I only have 1 at rank 2 neobuki

The others are unranked

[magic thicket]

@coral flint see this ^

Necromancer is trash

Don't waste orbs ^

[coral flint]

See what?

He is taking about necro's ai

@magic thicket cmere

[magic thicket]

@coral flint he is not worth 900 gems....

At r0

Even more gems needed for r1 or r2

[coral flint]

Bruh

You know you get like 600 orbs every month

@magic thicket

[magic thicket]

Yea

600 orbs = 240 gems?

[coral flint]

And even more if you win battlegrounds

[magic thicket]

Yop we win them lol

At least won last 2

[coral flint]

I didn't say I'll spend gems for orbs

I'll just do it kinda casually and I might get mine to r2 till next year

[magic thicket]

200orbs and 800 medals

[coral flint]

:GWossoKannaSip:

[magic thicket]

Next year😅

[coral flint]

Yop

Gonna be a lot of orbs

• school starts

[magic thicket]

OoF

So no thalassa or sherezzar

Or ragnarok

Rank 1 or 2 ooF

[coral flint]

I don't have monsters for sherry and rag

But I'm gonna get thalassa r1 before necro

Necro's rank will be decided by the rank that I get piercied in this breeding

[glacial yoke]

Best war masters?

[little berry]

@glacial yoke rag, shery, thalassa

I have hookuai is makugan worth getting for 300 gems ?

Whoops wrong chat

[hazy escarp]

No

[little berry]

No

[tame whale]

ik he’s one of the worst warmasters, but my other monsters aren’t as strong. i tried barbael but no luck. so i’ll be getting remntar next

he’s my first one too so that’s something

[hazy escarp]

Who’s your remntar team?

@tame whale

[tame whale]

@hazy escarp
r2 mirak
about to be r1 hackster /
holters bg

[hazy escarp]

That’s seems pretty good

[tame whale]

holters bg will also soon be r1

[hazy escarp]

Good luck on getting him

[tame whale]

ty

ty

[limber comet]

i have a team for rag stage one

prince charmless

shork

and kiridar

could i beat stage one

[hazy escarp]

Yes but be careful at the last node as ragnarok has anticipation

[limber comet]

thats the node im stuck on

[unkempt coral]

@tame whale hackster should be