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Gorg is more versatile than hookai at r4 tbh
Rank 4 is not in my reach right now
I'll continue to breed Mushu's and extract them (120 Warthak soon)
How you breed musu?
earth + water breed, preferably non legendary can get some random stuff
Any monster or rune suggestions? 4th node from the end of Floor 2 in water dungeon. All help is appreciated - thanks!
do you beat them on speed
What the what? They put r2 monsters on r1 floor? Didn't know that. And then they have high leveled runes too. Seems fair.
not to mention there also nature
@serene meteor right now, Sphyrnus goes first then my Kihaku goes (will have to grind better speed runes for Kihaku)
This is the current order
Maybe change one strength to team speed
Or you can keep retrying hoping they get total blind on sphyrnus
Ok, I think that I can put an IX strength on Brynhilda and replace the other with a VI team speed .... then just hope/pray for sheer luck 🙏🙏
Thanks for the help!!
@serene meteor @little berry
You guys are genius!! Thanks again

you got thalassa?
Not yet, three more nodes to this floor. I'm going to go try the next one now. Here goes nothing

Got to the last node of the floor and failed it 5 times in a row. Got pretty close on one try. Thalassa outspeeds me so back to the grind for speed runes (or sheer luck).
whats the battle condition?
The battle condition?
yeah, like whats the effect at the start of battle
Ah, I thought those conditions were always random so I wasn't paying attention to them. I'll make a note on the next try
Put more teamspeed runes
And an another 8 rune on Kihaku
And i think you will be fine
Floor 3 last node was funny, every monster had permanent Skill Mirror
Thalassa just mega froze her own team a bunch of times 😄
Seems the Runes the Warmasters are using is to reveal which ones you should use for them
i did it with pixelion and shademoon and wiped through it
theres a technique specifically with those 2 monsters
It’s basically saying to use 3 speed Runes for Thalassa
Same for Warmaster Ragnarok
3 speed on rag situational and only good at R4+ though
I did it with Ruby R3, Shannara’s BG R2 and Goldfield R4
how often do heroic orbs go discount
@little berry That team is so cool ...
You know how?
Just put all speed on shademoon and team speed on goldfield
Strength on your Pixelion ofc
Shademoon can stun all ...
Then then Guard down will help pixelion do the AoE freeze (50% Chance turns into 100%)
And then Goldfield can support
And then just keep repeating until the enemy is DEAD! 😉
best war master to go for at r0?
@errant fable Elvira or Ragg or Remntar or Thalassa if u can make her r1 but she also good at r0
ok thanks
Elvira
Elvira
elvira rag rem in that order
Zahra, Barbael

Rag is a better choice imo
His random SCs make it really hard to plan for in some war scenarios
Very true. Have to be lucky he gets something dumb like increased stamina when youre vsing him

Yeah Rag best at R0 imo
Elvira is good for carrying you into L4 and in easy wars but outside that threshold her value drops a bit where Rag stays consistently great on offense and defense and at any trophy range/war difficulty
True
That's why I'm planning for him or Rem
Rem don't have too special skills but got amazing sc & trait
What the trait
It's the same
I'm not talking about their own trait I'm talking about the trait they give to their allies
Ik he is not that good,especially unranked but i had to😂
Already packed rag and elvira💩
Dat beard tho
Papi gortak
Should i got for sherezar or remntar now or just try and rank up rag?
Go*
Rank UP Rag imo
So many people don't appreciate Gortak
Sherezar is meh unranked TBH
Laughs in Rag
Rag is OK unranked 
Gortak aged surprisingly well for the first WM
Indeed
That's the power of the beard 😄
A question about ragnarok that soon will arrive (I hope). If I well remember first floor is nature and second one still nature or change?
Ragnarok floor requirements:
Floor 1: Any Nature, grants 40 cells, costs 800 orbs
Floor 2: Any Earth (Rank 1), grants 60 cells, costs 1500 orbs
Floor 3: Any Thunder (Rank 2), grants 120 cells, costs 2400 orbs
Floor 4: Any Fire (Rank 3), grants 150 cells. costs 3500 orbs
Floor 5: Any Metal (Ranik 4), grants 290 cells, costs 4800 orbs
Floor 6: Any Magic (Rank 5), grants 1100 cells, costs 6750 orbs
Tks I am ready then 😃
👍
Anyone in here
Nop
krampus do ypu have remntar
nice do you have to get one warmaster before you can get raggy
No
so who to unlock his dungeon
??
I have 5 wms rn tho
I will say Rem, Ragg are very viable unranked & their trait and sc are very useful, Elvira is good option but now a days everyone got per and she is meh in defense bcz of her skills, Sherry is good at r0 but tbh he can only do per, positive protection, are curse, single CDA but other then that he isn't too good at r0 where thalassa is better imo even at r0 other wm are just not good at r0 but it mostly depends on the monsters u have
Sherry trait makes him better than Thalassa at R0
any recommended skills for unranked thalassa
@dusty nymph Freeze hatter + extra turn, Per + extra turn, Aoe freeze, single mega freeze
@little berry only trait is good where Thalassa is more useful bcz of her skills
Lol
I forgot it also applies drowned
And there is only 1 aoe freeze skill she got r0 😅
o
@jagged lake you unlock heroic dungeons with orbs
u
best wm to go for between r0 sherezar and r0 remntar?
Magic team: r1 shannara's bg, r3 wasper, r1 mr.flaky/r1 bandses
Metal team: r4 mirak, r1 holter's bg, r1 makugan/r1 flamerion
sherry is better imo
Shezza or Raggg
I've started a warmaster dungeon, but I've got stuck on the last node of magic floor 1. Is there a magic monster that can remove stamina, preferably something easily ranked.
gelotron i think
Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for him.
Need help with this node. I want to get R1 Thalassa before the dungeon ends.
This node gives mirror skill that cant be removed so if i try to possess or freeze with kihaku, they reflect it
With 3 ruine slots unlocked
@heavy fiber but if there are possess don't they reflect it back to themselves
@tulip sapphire yes it reflects
Not to your team tho @heavy fiber
Why do i get my wm with locked slots??
Just cause
Can i craft another wm, and extract this one?
I'm not spending 40 gems to get open slots
But you’re willing to wait to get enough orbs in order to craft an entirely new one?
You can’t create multiple WM’s
O
Just wait for the rune slots to go on discount if you really wanna cut the cost down
This is really not fair. At least wm should have all slots free.
@tulip sapphire no it reflects on my team
Wait Dosent ingursus have a move like that @heavy fiber
That gives him skill mirro?
PER doesn't work here
Best way is your other monsters are immune to your primary denier and your fist is harder than the enemy. See if you can satisfy either condition.
Does SP have anything planned with the WMs’ pets?
Nobody knows
Anyone here completed floor 1 for remntar dungeon
does anyone know the exact orbs needed for r0 WM?
2300
@heavy fiber use the remove negative effects skill
and take the attacks like a champ
oh it cant be removed
uh
use kiai
and use blob to remove the main threat's stamina
Thalassa so annoying lol but I got her
I noticed some of the Warmasters Have Pets with them
Is that ever gonna come out
@heavy fiber I suggest a good Water Support or tank
That would be more than enough
Just have Al Canine and youre good
Ruby or samuel?
ruby
If your buying a nemesis chest sammy is better since he’s more reliable
But if it’s Ruby not any other xiron form just ruby vs sammy then I’d go for ruby
Ok thanks
I’d still take Sammy over Ruby personally
Sammy Warrior on Ruby, and he misses both control effects on the enemy ruby on the warthak node 😦

@strange dagger edit you message.
oops sorry
Thank you.
Not only decent, but OP
I'd still consider the PC/FS as the top 2 monsters in the game
More and more ways to deal with thalassa are coming out and I considered sammy better even then
Rip bug. My team hasn't even been defeated and I've already beaten this enemy team. But okay sp
Got pretty far tho
Jj
Can I beat Thalassa dungeon with R1 kihaku, R1 Gorg, and R1 blob?
@haughty lance easy yes
@haughty lance yes
I’m doing thalassa dungeon w R1 gorg kihaku and theytys
Hi guys! Can a team of borjork, alpha cliviast, and talika beat the first floor of Ragnarok dungeon? Thanks
Yes definitely
I think most teams of legendary monsters can beat floor 1 with level 5 runes. Civalist with speed, Talika team speed and bojork 2 strength 1 ts @gilded ether
Talika with speed, best nature denier
Hmm well she is a better support imo and civalist can do the denying
Ohh thank you so much. I'm kinda nervous tho lol
No
All speed makes her benefit from both supporting and denying
Andrej is right
You are literally using competitive wiki as a source of information
That thing is pure trash
Yeah but if civalist and talika have speed then there is no ts carrier and then both will be outsped
Your opinion should be the best
Well give ts to cliviast
What?
Str on talika? These people tarded or something 
That's a prime example of why you should never use competitive wiki
No
That’s what I’m saying potatoes lol
Also 3 str on talika???
I think ts
yea ts
Best nature denier
3rd best f2p denier
i use her for aoe stun and shield on allies
Yeah especially when you have civalist on ur team. Civalist can be the main denier and talika the support
yeah talika can be used as support
Look at those moves tho only 1 is deny
???
The others are really good support moves
Yeah
Time to die
You do realize using competitive wiki just shows how unknoledgeable you are in the game, right?
Well I mean I’m just using it to show an other opinion
whAt Do yOU mEAn ComPETItiVE WikI BESt
Lol
i use it
Cause then it’s not just me saying it lol. Just cause I haven’t learnt talika’s moveset of by heart
Don't
idc im dumb xD
It's a piece of garbage
Bi heart
Where else am I meant to find movesets lol I don’t revise them
i just know the moves on my monsters
Monster wiki
i have talika
Just not competitive
Instead of blabbering some nonsense
^
Hmmm I mean u can’t say calling talika a support is nonsense
But is it Ideal
i used her on pvp def once for support
Saying she should have ts and cliviast speed is nonsense though
talika is a denier
Well from tomorrow I'm running charmles with 3 speed just because he has jazzy mask
Is this my fault? Lol you guys are fighting because of my question :((
Nop
lel nah is ok
Its not your fault
Haha
u made the question but u didnt cause conflict xD
Samael and llum are often speed monsters even though they're OP supports
I'm pointing that competitive wiki is rarted
It's big tarded
lady solaris counters samael
?
counters
im not sure about llum tho xD
I don't get what you're trying to say??
How th does it counter
Well I mean there are monsters u can put speed on which are supports but talika is not one of them imo. Like fair enough with demise but not talika
she has spirit hater as and ability and can have winged hater and extra turn
trait*
imo or competitive wikis opinion?
she also is a light monster
So what lol that she can otk sammy
Buro can do that as well
So many attackers can do that
Because like me you love wasting your time trying to explain to people they are rarded
becus i find it funny lol
wait if loads of attackers counter sammy y is it OP?
why*
solaris does xD
yea really -_-
Sammy has no real counter except for sherezar
Insert facepalm
Others aren't reliable enough
Sammy really doesn't have a proper counter
she can still do decent against samael
If she gets a turn
Killing ≠ countering
Like every.other.powerful.attacker
she has goo speed
good*
Bye going to get me some brain cells
goo dluck i dont think they do size 1
After you killed them in cold blood
I mean shademoon has spirit hater so....
And area dodge so can dodge most of sammys aoe moves
shademoon gud tho
Yeah
Haha I mean this dude thought he knew everything cause he’s spent £1000 on the game lmao
lol
I'm f2p FYI
Hmmm bet
And you do know sammy has a shield slot? And is popular with life or

Shade can't kill him
Yes Ik that
go with positive effect remover
And as I said killing ≠ countering
i use endless celebration on demise

Wait andrej u have legendary role that means ur the leader right?
xD
“F2P”
noicee
Look at all ur nemesis’s that’s not f2p
Oof
Nemesis cell dungeons you know
I've been collecting elementium for 2 years and ele cells for a few months
i thought they diamond relic chest dungeons
On nemeses
Only one I got through
Couldn't beat the extreme floor for the others
And didn't bother with talos since I only had a 105 timmy as a metal then 
There were only 3 rounds of these dungeons (max 150 cells of each nemesis (normal - 10, hard - 15, extreme - 25 cells))
So me thinking I know everything because I spent 1000s does not have any truth in it
I also play with an elite acc which was given to me, so because I haven't spent any money on anything there's no reason for me to be bias towards anyone
I'm just saying comoetitive wiki is trash
Where are the nemesis dungeons
In SP's trash cans
Btw, those of u who're thinking Andrej to be a p2p because of his profile, u're more than welcome to take a look at mine 😉
Or at Ekto's profile 
I saw him in the top 100 in pvp a few days ago 
Are all the battle restrictions for the nemesis dungeons same as the previous one?
They all are bout the same but you could have a look at #ml-community-helping-others @limpid spear
Yes
Ok, thanks
Use speed on neo (use runes that you can easily swap like 6 or 7 so you can put strength if needed)
For Francine use team speed/health/strength
Wow these guys really can't admit they are wrong
Another hard head added to the list
😎
gratz
If SP replaced my Zahra with a Rancid Squid, I'd cry.
The only good thing about her is her design
Still don't know why sp decided to nerf the double life and control immunity
Its just like nerfing firesaur but for a warmaster level
@polar valve they are both girls 😜
Yah😁😭
Why did my talos got stunned but none of the enemies got stunned
It’s a bug I think
It’s very ***** when this kind of thing happen
This node is so frustrating, that faraday is too powerful and one shots my attackers then others get their skills back and kills the remaining monsters
But Gortak is very strong and he can give him a 100% mirror
Gortak is immune to stun so only stuns allies but he was supposed to get stunned since Talos got stunned
Gortak has are stun immunity as a trait, but talos is an artifact so he should avoid it too
what is sp
Social Point
@jagged lake
Unranked Ragnarok runes are
right?
@little berry Yes
Also, Talos getting stunned is a bug yes, it happened to me as well
Except Warthak, that node stuns every Nemesis u bring
Gortak's team get free shots though...
That's why I get past that one with 3 Warthaks 😅
Skullcrusher for Faraday, Mountainsplitter for Gortak and Sunbringer for whoever I fancy killing first
Any ideas? I cant get different monsters
Nevermind, I just stuck all speed on Alpha and his death countdown killed rag and Zahra
omg after 7 tries i finally beat that last floor 1 node for ragnarok
i used 100 lord mindson, 115 fatid and 100 borjork. the revival skill was so clutch
i beat 2nd floor after 3 tries
i beat 2nd floor 1st try
bruh
Srry i always thought he was magic
zahra poob
I beat 2nd floor 1st time
1st floor last node*
100 Fatid
100 Furrius Robin
100 Psilotus
Kept reviving with triple dmg
🤣
Since fatid had double heavy duty and 2 life 1 ts
Killed rag first then Xahra and Osur just spammed heal and were just taking ages
That feelings
@dusty nymph nope, it's just that the Facebook version was a bit too glitchy and I have a slow PC and so I never upgraded my air ship
which is the better attacker nemesis monsters?
@limpid spear how do u get more
Okay
I got absolutely scammed
I buy xiron
and then they put out this monster
which has the exact same skill xiron has, plus a skill that can total blind, and a skill that can reset cooldowns?
@velvet mirage Which monster are you talking about? And well... Xiron was meta a while ago. It's losing it's value now.
In case you mean Mirak - She can apply only one random control skill. Xiron has two. Her self-CD reset isn't very usable In practice. Xiron can activate cooldowns and drain quite a lot of stamina. However, as you said Mirak can TB, remove buffs and debuffs from allies, as well as a better trait... So I'd say Mirak is overall better than Xiron. You shouldn't be surprised, really. If Marquis isn't better than Faraday... Then Hookuai definitely is.
Just saying to demonstrate how the Nemeses are (slowly) fading away. Samael, Talos and Llum are totally fine though. Llum got a boost by fitting into the meta whereas Talos is getting a huge buff thanks to the relics (specifically Jasastur's Mask) and mutant runes.
got lucky on the last battle and got them all with the frankenlady
Neobuki only had one level 7 speed rune, voltaik had the usual setup at level 7 and francine had 1 lvl7 strength and 1 lvl7 life
Mirak is better than the emerald/quartz, but ruby is still far ahead of any denier besides thalassa
Mirak is a good counter to remntar, but other than that she has a much higher chance to miss than ruby
@inland trail Thing is, Mirak is more versatile with the status effects' removal, the trait makes things hard to predict... And megataunt/Wasper completely screw Xiron. Mirak can work it off. As for being ahead of any denier... Um. Sherezar? Pierceid? Wangzhou? Now, the last one may be a bit lighter on the control with relics in play (tho they can help him too) but he literally kills while at it.
Ruby is much better than sherezar (coming from someone who has a 130 sherezar) and pierceid
Jazzy mask deals with wasper, only one monster so far has megataunt
And that one monster shares the same element/books with an extremely OP monster
You like Xiron more than Sherezar? Well that's a first
I can't see why that is.
Sherezar is also not that good on defense, bad AI and only hardened
Oblation trap can be annoying but eh
Hardened?
Sherezar sucks on def if he has Great Dispel on. Take it off and ur good
And he starts with random spellbook 100% of the time and spams rejuvenation
And I never said 'sucks'
Don't run that either 😂

Yeah, that's my opinion. Sherezar is bloody awful on defense if he has GD.
Well I don't run either so 
But a main denier sherezar can't defend against a faster sherry/ruby, while ruby can at least do something with a 0 CD skill and jazzy mask
RSB, Grandmastah's Scroll, Wizard's Negation and then Master's Scroll or Protective Spell. Always something to cleanse.
Well, from the perspective of offense, Sherezar is far superior. Afterall, evasion/megataunt won't stop him. And... He doesn't missss.
Evasion doesn't stop ruby either
And he's not far superior
0 CD skills can be very annoying and ruby can deny for up to 3 turns with one skill
It does, if there's a Cane/Charging Banner/Energizing's Amulet/Xiron's Essence.
Which is common...
Ruby Fragments you mean?
Only one I ever see there is cane
Yeah, that skill can be tricky with jazzy mask
Also not many of the currently used monsters have a staff slot so
Zahra 

Besides her sunblast is the main one who comes to mind besides another xiron
can we delet xiron
No, delet Thalassa
tru
You see in these battles against remntar and rag ruby (with ruby fragments) won me 15
Sherry was used for PER and additional DOTs, timmy for additional denying and a charging banner
A main denier sherry wouldn't stand a chance to win 15, ruby is much better against rag (or anticipators paired with SCs in general)
Sherezar also can't touch area dodge
Master's Scroll tho
CDA protection
Welp 
And ruby fragments still drains them through evasion (if rag gets it)
@gilded ether gratzz 👍👍
what good denier could I get around the future that doesnt involve a breeding event?
asking for elivra dungeon
al
So Mirak as good as Xiron?
Prefer Ruby personally but case could be made for Mirak especially on defense if her random effects are more likely to be Dodge Area, Skill Mirror, etc
definetly ruby lol?
Sherezar is Tough, not Hardened
Sunbringer vs mountainsplitter. Which would you prefer?
MountainSplitter is probably the better one, having the elemental advantage against other earth monsters.
Sunbringer is still good tho
for taking down Necromancers and other dark monsters that you might find in PvP.
I think Sunbringer is more valuable, because of Dunn Ra everywhere (and can deal damage through Elvira's shields)
But Mountainsplitter destroys Earth monsters (and Korralle Brutalis is everywhere)
Does Mountainsplitter not have the same ability to damage through shields?
Either way yeah Mountainsplitter is more valuable imo. Even his 0 CD skill is gonna wind up OTKing most Earth monsters he comes up against.
I just got mountainsplitter although I was hoping for sunbringer. But I see a lot of people leaning more towards mountainsplitter when originally sunbringer was favored. Must be the change in meta over the year
Yeah mountainsplitter is the best earth with no competition
Looking to finish floor 3 for Rag and I'm having trouble with the last battle. Can I get some advice? This is the team that got me through the rest, but I feel like I'm not getting anywhere against Rag
I have Francine Frank, Zyla, Tempest, and Griffin r1 and enough cells to rank one of them to r2 to slot in. Any advice which one? Or how to go about beating the floor in general?
Rag crushes voltaik most times
Not enough damage and as an extra turn anticipator ragnarok has the advantage against him. Same would happen to ayla. Go with tempest or Griffin, with their stuns, And cross your fingers
Unless you can kill rag early, and try and use non extra turn moves on zyla until he's gone. I think she does more damage than voltaik
Switch Neo’s runes to like two strength and a team speed and use tempest all speed in place of Volt
Probably best to switch out Soap Sam but I wouldn’t recommend Volt or Zyla unless you can kill Rag first with Neo. Rag’s Anticipation would tear your team apart.
I'll give those a go and report back. Thanks you two!
anyone know the last node, second floor of necromancers dungeon
Use volts non extra turn moves. Run straight power
Rip going for necromancer
can I just use level 6 runes vs elivra
team?
dont have one yet
Any of the nemesis attackers still good ?
yop
Warthak
Talos
Faraday
idk who else are attackers but im 99.9% that they're still good
Whose better between talos and faraday
Talos..better
:DrakeNo:
Faraday
Barbael ts holder?
Faraday. If you need talos get the nature form
I have Elvira and Thalassa at r0 should I rank up Thalassa or go for remntar/rag?
I'd say go for Raggy boi
rag boi it is then
Any ideas how to beat it?
I had to go through this battle about 50 times
If you have baba yaga for PER that would come in handy
yaga is very useful
I can get some earth monsters to rank r1 like yaga or burotgor but I was saving for dunn ra
For r1 dunn ra?
Yes
I used this and it took me about 20 attacks because yagas PER never hit all 3
I coulda ranked buro up but I forgot there was immunity to control so I went for the tanker option and realised a little late
So yaga or burotgor?
buro
Burotgor ig
Burotgor strength 2xV and speed V is enough?
Im halfway through floor 2 with Zamelion, Buro and Yaga
Hoping to god its enough to beat the last node
Use three team speed on Balor @surreal galleon
Oof NVM. You done with the last node
Would have if I had one above level 3 but yeah, still worked out
Lol man congrats thooo
Guys
Ragnarok 105 skills and runes suggestions?
/
for runes
For skills they’re kinda interchangeable for different situations cause he has so many good ones
No More Failures, Blacksmiths Masterpiece, Arcangels Blessing, Death Door, his Zahra skill, his Barbael skill, and maybe even the single curse are all worth potentially running though
Probably take off No More Failures for defense though
I used to run Arch Blessing, Death Door, Blacks MP and Mothers Nature Energy at 100
but now confused with the no more failures
Yeah it’s tough with him
Like I said best to just swap based on situation, free skill swap helps him put a ton. Like with No More Failures if you’re facing say another Rag probably best to run something else.
Run 2 Speeds and 1 power /2 power 1 speed on Rag
Capitalize on those beastly stats
And use baba balor and korall. DOT will get it done if you keep possession and reverse heal up with PER
Strength not really worth it on Rag, nor are the two speed. He has nice skills but nothing AOE bases along the lines of a denier or an anti denier.
Speed is to outspeed others who don’t run speed. Power is because his moves are single and he’s got decent power. Health is a waste and team speed is a waste of a monster with such good stats stamina no team runes no power yes speed yes set it how you want
health isn't a waste
also, team speed is the ideal runes for him
and so what if he has decent power, he isn''t really an attacker
just cuz they have a high power, doesn't mean you should put two strengths on em
^
Team speed is there to boost his denier, since he himself isn’t one. As far as strength runes go, if you want to deal damage just use Death Door and pair him with a better attacker. It’s like saying Rador’s a great attacker cause his strength stat is really high.
Death door uses too much stamina. Team speeds wastes 3 rune slots (on reg imo and power and regular speeds are just to give him an edge.
he's able to hold an amulet that gives him extra stam
Oh I’m aware. Just disagree with using death door. I run supporting attacker Rag. You can run Rag many many ways
That’s one reason
Rag's super versatile, most people run team speed on him, but it really depends on the skills you run on him
Ai big oof
I tried team speeds. Hated it. Felt like I was wasting a power house to support a denier
Oof
I have jazzy barbatos, suggestions for 3rd monster to rank up, wanna get necro
Right now im using rhodent (the mini voltaik rare) for team life and team speed
Was thinking about ranking keithor
Finally beat the last note on Ragnarok floor 2
'Grats !!!
if you run rag with str you have big rarted ngl
Rag, Thalassa and Sherry or Rag, Thalassa and Elvira?
As a team
I havnt got Sherry yet, so Im just deciding weither to get Thalassa to r1 or go for unranked Sherry
@upper yew second team Rag, thalassa and elvira
Sweet, thanks!
r1 thalassa or r0 sherry
r1 fat 🦑
Strength is definetly a waste on Ragnarok
You run him as a curser/support most the time, his main damage move is death door and that’s unaffected by strength runes. I recommend

hey i just wanted to ask i have a sherezar. but i dont knoe what runes to put on him. any sugestions??
know*
yeah he is ranked
Rank 2 +

R0/R1
@jagged ivy
ok thanks
Rag, Thalassa, Sherry team would be better imo
what for? @little berry
Fantastic 🎇🎆
@stone python @little berry MVP! Is there any kind of upvote system or whatever here? If not, at least know you have my deep gratitude for this. It's been evading me for 3 rotations now.
Is Barbael r0 worth getting???
not really
imma get babari as my first war master
if you're really close to him, fine. If not, don't waste your orbs on him, most other wms are far better choices (sherry, thalassa, remntar, rag, elvira depending on your pvp league and team league I guess?)
ragnorok is bad
he is so weak to elements and his move set is just eww
its a joke my first wm is gonna be rag
Lol
Np man congrats on Rag
@astral vector which team did you use?
115 ragnorak or 115 Sherezar?
rag
@little berry Rag
@magic thicket
I was actually surprised it was enough with the low runes on Tempest. I was waiting for a unequip discount before upping them, but figured I'd give it a shot as is and got lucky after 3-4 attempts
On Rags last node of floor 2, who should I be focusing? Ive been focusing Rag so far, but Gortak keeps just destroying me anyway
@river laurel barbael r0 isnt worth getting but if you plan on ranking him up then i suggest going for him
@astral vector I am thinking of using eeltron storm beard and volthar
All of them are r0 but gonna rank them up soon
Is that a good team btw?
That should be more than enough. Storm beard per is huge against these guys. Sadly mine is still waiting to be crafted
Volthar is a denier tho, isn't it?
So secondary to storm
Gotcha. That sounds pretty solid. Definitely target rag first
He has a skill which removes positive effects and applies nanovirus
To all enemies
Eeltron ....immunity to control SC
For last node which applies random control to all monsters
Yeah, you'll be way better equipped than I was, shouldn't be much trouble for you
I was just trying to work with a makeshift team until I could rank some other legendaries
Nah, I had 4,5,6 on that team. You'll be fine there
The relics are definitely what made it possible for me. That shield is beast
And multiple traps lowered enemy HP enough that I could 2 shot rag. Soap Sam aoe stamina leak skill helped a lot, too
Volthar has aoe stamina leak too
I ended up using neobuki taunt skill. Then next turn used his self 2x and extra turn. Ate the anticipation attack from rag, and hit with sekiwake
He removes 30 % stamina of all enemies applies stamina leak
Storm beard can aoe 50%stamina drain
That'll help tremendously. I did find the hp regen from neobuki extremely necessary , but again, my team was much less prepared aside from rune selection
Oh no healers in my team oof
With two proper deniers, IDK if it'll be that big a deal for you
Oh
But the attacker lol
Eeltron is not that good attacker
But his trait
Immune to control
😤
Sam was such a fill in for me. Just a TS holder and stam leak. Literally nothing else to offer
Best bet is just try and see. If you find yourself lacking in some way, ie. damage output, then look elsewhere. But you won't know for certain til you attempt it a couple times
3x TS sammy PC, mirak 3x S, warthak x2 Str x1 S
Debating if I'd be better off with throwing Dunn ra in there
If so who do I replace??
@dreamy canopy does sammy have his turn transfer skill?
Is the ranked skill random for WM? Or a set order depending on which rank? Any way to reroll? Just wondering before I feed up my r1 Rag if there's anything I should be doing
It's a set in every rank up u will unlock new skills
Perfect, thanks
👀
Yeah, at first it looked like you said it unlocked a whole new set of moves, but I realized you meant to say it's a set move that gets unlocked at each rank
Yep 
Kk, thanks again
Np
heh
:WeSmart:
Runes for rag r0?


Made Elvira and Dunn ra just to add per all over the place and now we need monsters to counter the per. We need monsters with Neobukis per block trait.
I wouldn't use Dunn then.
Really? @little berry
I mean, I don't see who you would replace tbh.
Yeah, that's why I'm asking
But I feel megataunt would make it better
Is it offense or defense?
Bc sammy and mirak are still vulnerable to control
Defense
On offense I use fever scatterer, sunblast, warthak
Although, I think ruby might replace sunblast soon
Sunblast seems kind of 2nd rate now
I mean, Sammy is just super good in the meta right now, I wouldn't replace him. Mirak, I haven't used mines yet but I see a ton of people say positive things about her.
Dunn on defense, is super weak to enemies just bringing PER, which is extremely common, so it might not help as much.
Just my 2 cents
Maybe, give Sammy the Speed and Mirak the TS, so Sammy could TT into Warthak to kill enemies faster? I'm just throwing ideas out.
Of course you could try Dunn out, and if it works then keep it, if not, then try another monster.
Okay thanks
No problem 😄
Yeah Sammy with the speed is more versatile
if its on defence then sammy with speed lowkey utter trash
O true
Not really, but he's better with life on defence
Ok
What is barbaels role?
Ts holder/can be an attacker
He's supposed to be control... But all he has is TB
Yea
ranked or unranked
Both
ranked thalassa and unranked elvira imo
number 2 unranked 🤔
Okay thanks mate ☺

i hatched mine a few days ago 
😐
🍭
definetly
Elvira better
Elvira is still better I'd say
Unless you're up against a team with a lot of players who've played for a while so we throw like 20+ llums at you
Yo
Hi
Can any one tell me what 3rd warmaster should i get
Warmaster water or warmaster rag
ragragrag
I have 54 cells of warmaster water and 78 cells of warmaster rag
I have not heard much hype about barbael but mine has some very good skills against certain enemies and I am happy to have him.
He is better than my other ranked fire monsters...
How do i win the last node of the Warmasterr Barbael dungeon?
Playing with Marquis, Sunblast and Vadamagma, all lvl. 105.
by winning
Is there any way to make it easier?
just keep replaying until you get like 7 ults
special
But isn't there any tactic to "easily" win the last node?
Like it seems impossible to me
Victor which one
With your monsters it should be super easy
should
Anyone whilling to trade 60 mephisto cells for marquis? Or any other monster I can provide cells for I really want Marquis 🙃
Lol
anything counts 😭
@severe junco are you on a team?
yes
I’m on a team but it’s full so is ur team open? @severe junco
my teams full too i guess next time
Alright
ok
(6750 contains r4 and r5
wat is the best way to get orbs
?^
wat is tbg
Team battle grounds.
im actually dying
how desperate is this dude for attention
never spoke to him before, never knew he existed never asked about ragnarok or anything. only messaged me for the flex
You could just say yes and be done with it though
But seems it's not even his own, he got it from someone's profile (different backgroud if we take the screenshot of our own in his habitat/vault) 
he obviously wanted attention so i thought i'd give it so him
wow
@fleet oriole its totally not his rag 😂
@rose wasp y flex in the dm y not flex here???
😂
Man scared he gonna be roasted
Lmaooooooooooo
u can see that
EXPOSED
no food in the top
Ik
depends on rank
max
Oh thought i could roast him on his ruine set up lmaooooo
not today😂
RIP
and thats not his profile
Ik
Not like I was the first one who pointed out why it wasn't his own 
R2 wasper , r2 bandses , and possibly r3 zeighar , can i finish floor 1-3 for sherazar?
Most likely

At what level does Necro becomes good? 110?
110 yeah
thats when he gets his revival skill
Ai skips the part where he becomes good
@fickle acorn strenght on sammy?
does that work
it does.
Sammy can be a makeshift attacker
i have mostly seen all speed or life
On FS it does
Whomst.
Elemental advantage
cool
I just discovered that Helgudin evades the effects of the dungeon
Positive and negative
And also, ty Krampus
@tired ginkgo why sell button!? Dum. It was from my profile
Why doesn't it show the gold per minute? Or the amount of food you have?
TheAlexDex showed us how it should appear in the flex picture he sent earlier
Umm guys
I've got koralle,atum and his bodyguard ranked up
Is it good team for rag floor two?
@rose wasp then send a ss with him from the habitat
Atum team speed
So then I give atum ts
And bodyguard speed?
Or I cud give both of them team speed and use koralle for mega taunt
@tired ginkgo yeah i thought it could of been from is profile or something thats why i didnt say straight away it wasnt his, though i had my suspicions, doubt its his though still
👀
Who’s better for rag
Buro or Baba Yag
A
I already have R3 Koralle if that makes a difference
I was thinking Yaga to PER but I realised I could just keep retrying it until I hit both moves
I've got buro but not ranked
I got all the parts for him but I don’t know how to get him
I cant beat the last necro node in floor 2
I haf barbatos 1 life 2 str
Jazzy all speed already faster than them all, and some rare with team life
Use Dunn 
jazzy wont be useful because he's a possession denier and necro literally gives everyone immunity to possess
Ye i done it, switched his possession skills with stam drain
How can I defeat last ndoe at warmastsr neromnecer in your opinion giys dun ra because mega taunt right and 2 atackers? "
Ye
Who's better warmaster Thalassa or warmaster Ragnarok?
Depends on the rank
Ok how about... at r0 and at r5, who better


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