#monster-discussion
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Unranked they’re both useful. Elvira’s more likely to carry you in easier wars/to L4 but after around that threshold I’d prefer Sherry.
Anyone did complete the thunder floor for ragnarok? (floor3)
Doable with Faraday, Neobuki and Kaori? im lacking a thunder denier
mhhh, because i thought of getting volthar in the maze, then its like super easy
but i'd have to skip the kaiju 😄
yea 😄
What's your rune set
ive trippe X on faraday and trippe 7 on the other two
Speed? And ts im assuming or all strength
2str 1ts fara 3speed neo 2ts 1str kaori
didnt start the floort yet, just planing on next rota
mhhh sounds awesome, so ill guess i just try it, if it doesnt work next month 😉
thx for your help
Np good luck
floor 2 btw i didnt found that hard... brutalis/burotgor/baba yaga
only last battle took quite a few tries
Yeah same here. Earth tough element. But thunder better
Nahh have to wait a bit for that
im missing a good 3rd monsters there too.. might try bonnie bark :p
I'm heading for r2 Sherry. I got r3 wasper and shade moon and then I'mma try and get r2 xiron to r3
i really should get sherezar once in the future too, but thats way too much orbs for ranking three warmasters the same time
currently busy with rag and thalassa
Idk he really wasn't that hard. Maybe with kaori
I wanna say evasion but I'm not sure
Well faraday hits like a truck with close to 13k strengh , should be okay
Yeah exactly
ragnaroks SC is any other wms sc and babaris sc is damage mirror
Just murder rag as soon as possible
There are no news about possible discoumt?
nope
Oh then go for Sammy
Yeah Sammy. He’s a better investment than just a 105 Thalassa/Rag imo.
if u get him to 115 yea
if u get him r1 the. no
then no
unless u got enough elementium and dark cells to rank him
My sammys light is at 110. What skill does he get at 115
his turn transfer
double damage + 50% stamina i brlieve
to an allu
ally
its why sammy is so good
@errant parcel
Thanks im ranking him up now
Ive only been playing this game for 12 months and only at lv 76. But i have like 80 ledgens. Still i have a long way to go.
I've been playing this game for 8 months and i'm lvl 98
I’m 69 with 100 legendaries
Now i jealous
Lvl doesn't matter too much btw
Level is useless guys lol
I’ve seen level 100s with just ranked up epics and bad legendaries 😂
Yeah
Do u think I can beat Ragnarok floor 2 with The Warrior, Burotgor and Zamelion? All R1
that lap fits nice
What do people normally use to beat it?
monsters
Where do I acquire these... "monster" 🤔
I used buro baba and Balor I think
But koralle is a good bet
But that last node is crazy good.
I wish I had Koralle :/
Id have to get him and rank him up by the time Ragnaroks available tho
Yeah
Might just finish Thallassa instead then
Ive already done her first floor
And having Gorg makes it a whole lot easier kind of
How is Thallassa unranked?
She seems alright I think. Has aoe freeze or mega freeze but not 100% sure. I've yet to go for her
@fiery skiff what team u using
hmm
Koralle + Baba yaga + an epic any good?
probably avaast for the double essence
so i can run yamada's and uriels
K
Im just gonna go for Thallassa and then work on getting her to R1 after
And work on getting better Earth monsters on the side
cool
Shoul i use Ragnarok as a support?
Maybe both
It's probably both.
Well then if it is both then. Sure, slap some
on him as I don't think he fairs well with the other team runes, maybe he does i dunno. As for skills, it's really just what you need in that situation, I've seen a lot of Ragnarok's run the nature skill which is pretty solid, and the light skill which is also pretty solid. A must have skill (in my opinion) is Death Door. @lofty fox
I run the rank 1 skill, the nature, the metal and the light skill
No room for Death Door 😢
No more failures already heals so why thr nature skill? Not to mention you already have the light skill which also heals.
Also it gives Life Regeneration
warmasters shouldnt ever be parents for a breeding
what is Sherezar's status caster?
Cooldown Protection 😃
area or single?
Area
Hmm why?
he applies it to himself only...
Who were the other monsters? Happened in multiple battles?
It’s possible. I suspect you’re in the same war restrictions as me, so a team of Timerion/Flamerion/Sherezar will only give Sherezar Cooldown Protection
No problem
Anyone knows how many orbs needed for the last floor wm dungeon, to get from lvl 115 to lvl 120?
What metal monster should I use to beat the first floor on remntar
which ones do u have?
I use Timmy holter bodyguard and general holter
@lusty ruin
Thank you!
Best skills and runes for r0 Elvira?
I must download that chart
i have a question
can taiga , al canine and cloud beat elvira dungeon and get rank 0 ?
ping me
plz
@severe junco yeah I dont see why not
actually?
because i dont want to spend for nothing
shall i try to get elvira or thalassa?
Thalassa gets good at r1
I personally got Elvira as my first Warmaster
But she isn't as good as she once was
If you have 3 r2 water monsters and got that 4700 orbs go for Thalassa
i will be spending some moneys to get al canine , taiga and cloud
ill just get elvira for now
she will e my first warmaster
Al canine
When do the next heroic dungeons start?
1st June 😃
Thanks
is there a chance to do ragnaroks third floor with voltaik, frankenlady( cant remember the name rn) and any other thunder monster like neobuki*( my best one )
Hikari?
neobuki 😂
I did it with Neobuki, Francine and Exo Skeel. Ran Neobuki with 2 speed, and then Francine stall killed them slowly
francine strength?
Nope lol, life and 2 team speed. But put destructive monstrosity on her and hoped for the best
No
are there many faradays?
VoltaiK is (mostly) useless against Anticipation monsters, but against other monster he's still devastating
Especially with Mutant Runes
jazzy mask wants to know your location
well that last node has ragnarok in it so volt needs no extra turn moves
he could be useful
I dont have jazzy mask
Apply some torture effects on raggy and just spam extra-turns
I shall try it as soon as the dungeon is here
I should get a rank 3 Ragnarok
The last nodes can get a bit painful, sometimes the random deny works well, and sometimes it hinders you massively
6k orbs right now
Does anyone know when the next rotation is?
in a few days
I’m a bit upset
For some reason I thought the next rotation started when this one ended
So I was sat waiting 😂
it starts on the 1st of the month, just like all the months since the rotations started
How much is for a floor 2?
floor 2 is 1500 orbs.
Then get more
@stray wave floor 2 is 2400 orb's @little berry
@strong bison That's floor 3 you're talking about.
when is the next warmaster rotation coming round?
Check the Update section in the game.
pinned
the updates just tell me who's who in what week
the updates just tell me who's who in what week
From what I can tell they operate on weekly cycles. 4 cycles per month. Months that have more than 28 days have dead periods on day 29-31 (or whatever applies). Then rotation starts back up on the 1st of the month. Someone please correct me if I've made a mistake, this is just personal observation but may be inaccurate if I've missed something
how to get ragnorok
That's a heavy question
You wait. And then do a dungeon. 
Leave a question if you don’t want to spend the time helping.
My advice is in plant use talika/orielly as a denier and just target rag then zahra and finsih osur of
In earth use koralle as koralle is the best way to deal against rag
Target rag,then kill gortak then hiroim
Unless he does Demon's Flames.
He doesn't have that skill
In wm dungeon
He has all the ranked up skills
I learnt that the hardway
I was a wimp back then
Was getting wooped since I didn't have kb
Eventually ik what the monsters would do
I beat last node of floor 3 first try but I lost against some of the earlier ones
I had Francine, volray and neo
Floor 2 was difficult because I didn't have good earth monsters back then
That was before rune swap so no denier
I had neo, hydratilla the bolt caster and voltaik
Voltaik was the jazzy mask meat shield
Neobuki and hydra were very important
What rank does necro become good??
I got him as my first WM and haven't really used him
110
Ty
👍
Is sherezar any good at r0?
Yeah, a good Team Speed holder
@dreamy canopy Yeah dude, full team CDA protection is insane
Sherezar + piercid + cain
And just win win win no matter what
Hello, I have 7500 orbs. I can get a r2 thalassa but was wondering if it would be better to get 3 WM (elvira and rag ) instead of just a r2 thal. Thoughts?
Meh. If u think about it. In the end youre gonna get all of that eventually
So doesn't matter. Get r2 now and get monsters later or vise a versa. Either way you'll get all 3 monsters and 1 will be r2
is there an optimal way of "farming" orbs ?
Keep buying the first 2 discounts and max your free ones with good pvp and nsd (if you got nemesis), no other way
Best skills for Elvira at r0?
Aura Of Forgiveness , Words Won't Save You , Aura Of Wrath & Protecting Light . you could also switch Aura Of Wrath out for Repent, Sinner if you'd like. or Aura Of Trust if you're worried about misses.
Thalassa dungeon tomorrw,right?
@upper yew Correct.
@little berry sherezar too?
Also Gortak.
Awesome
Then Zahra, Ragnarok and Barbael.
I'll get the final G4 skill, Savia Transfusion for my Zahra 
Is Zahra good
Totally. Vastly underrated.
You can run her as a supporter (1 speed/ts and 2 tl) or 3 speed to either TT with debuff removal and precision (counters shock) or set up a damage mirror/the botanophobic shields. Depends on the enemy.
She can block out the tortures, and the trait works so well with all the runes, buffs and the super tanks we have running around. I use my Zahra with Koralle/Clipeum and Helgudin. Helgudin is untouchable, and as for the tank - Zahra takes good care of it.
I look at what I need and right now I could really have some use for Babari
I want Barbari because he just looks awesome
I want him because he could go really well with Dunn Ra (or even Mephisto)
Ah ok, Ill hold off on him for now then
Im going for Thalassa unranked tomorrow, then Ill save all my orbs to rank her up
Babari is probably the worst WM though, but can be quite useful
Especially in the dragon book
what did u just said
The worst is the metall one
Agree.
Remntar is the worst wm?
Remntar is actually a great one
Oops
Used a lot in defenses
And he's an easy beat for me lol
He's better than Gortak, babari, barbael, zahra and probably necro
Hell naw.
Hell yes
What did you say
I don't want him, I don't need him. He's a trait with animations. That skill mirror refresh is the only thing that even be a threat in his skills.
The special immunity is easy to walk around, plus TD is a thing.
I said it as a "plus".
- that special immunity in defense can be more useful than you'll ever think
And the skill mirror is brutal in defense
he gives team control immunity too right
Special immunity that can be taken away. Yippie. I'd rather have something actually useful in that spot, thank you.
Trait disabling will remove it, y'know.
Trait disabling ? Are you serious
Control immunity isn't useful on a monster who's not gonna go first. + it's easy to wipe as well.
As a skill I mean, obvs.
If Remntar is trash then all monsters are trash
I didn't say he's trash.
As a monster alone, he's good. But not WM material to me.
And don't criticize somthing when you didn't even try it
I did try it, sweetie. On a friend's acc. And it was exactly the way I predicted.
Remntar has the best Trait to put in defense and has a spammable 33% shield but i guess you know better
If he's not WM material then Elvira isn't as well
Know how to use him before you say he's not WM material mate
Perhaps. I just use Wizard's Negation from a low lvl Sherezar (says hi to Remntar's R2 skill) and then kill him with Wangzhou. So yeah.
In wars, I just use a Talos/Flamerion when it comes to metal.
Elvira is growing a bit outshined by monsters like Dunn Ra and Mephisto imo.
Mate every monster can be countered by something so that is not an argument at all
Oh-kay, but still. He gets turns. With the charging banner. But he cant do anything threatening.
Where is the arguement?
That guy is saying Remntar isn't WM material
An arguement without me?
I fight 130 Remntars all the time. And he always fails to impress me. Other WMs don't. Whatever.
Remntar is amazing for his trait
What is this madness
with what monsters
Remtar is the one wm that I wish I reconsidereed
I fight 130 sherezars with lvl 105-120 monsters and he fails to impress me
if you have any monster with per
Sher would have been so much better
elvira and remntar are pawns
Every monster can be countered
their whole gimmick is based around fighting enemies without per
But i know Sherezar is amazing even if i beat him all the time
obviously having per against a bot defense would give easy wins
You beat him because his ai stinks
Sherezar is weak against DA, but ur Remmy can't do anything to them either and Sherezar will wreck your metal friend tho.
i beat thallasa because her thallasa stinks
AI stinks overall
Sher can just great dispel and then destroy from their
thats like saying thalassa is bad because gorg can 1 hit her
Hmmm what skill should he use to get scary?
if its weak to one monster
Yes true
it doesnt mean its not worth its title
No. It's not. Thalassa can wreck anyone. Remntar is a mere inconvinience.
Zahra makes your team pose a bigger threat
Remntar really is more of trait
Good at lvl 100
But not the best wm in 130
babari can kill
Barbael has the same effect as zahra
babari is amazing thats why
trait disable + extra turn is a godly move
literally why thalassa is op
Talos intensifies
remtar is more of a fat chubby monster that does everything the first turn
and then goes to sleep
At 100 he is good compared to others because of trait alone
now id like to hear your opinion or barbael sapphire
if remntar isnt worthy of
wm
what are your thoughts on barb
Zahra's trait is more universal than Remntar's, too. And when it comes to skills, she kicks his bootay. What's better... Botanophobic Shields or 33%/50% shields. A TT with precision that counters shock and control or an anticipation skill.
Skill mirror you say? Zahra has damage mirror, and that is a nemesis of any AOE dmg attacker. Grinding Stones? Oh, nanovirus, what do we do... Oh yeah. Wipe it with your SUPPORT MONSTER, which both Zahra and Remntar are supposed to be. HmmHmMmmMmmm
Remntar is definitely worthy of wm
Remntar can't do much tho
He depends on his team
I'm slowly changing my opinion towards barbael
Considering he can make support monsters one shot
Barbael? He uh... Is an average monster... Looking past the WM title. @high abyss
Tho the trait can be scary.
Wan is race guys
Unlike Remntar's.
Lol
Race
go ask in general
I was like mother christ what did I do to deserve this
Or in #marathon-race
Barbael is easily countered, but if you don't counter him, he will beat you down.
Rag can be countered but god
i dont get zahra
He's a pain
i dont see how shes so good
much like elvira
per destroys so many monsters nowadays
Zahra is a pure support monster
zahra is shut down by per
its probs why i think my sammy is da best
Also consider this
Her trait makes the other monsters in her team
Complete monsters
If you kill her they kill you
death door has entered the chat
What don't you get about her
i dont get how shes good
Whenever revived/hit with TD and then it expires or gets cleansed... Her trait heals. Be careful when TDing Zahra. Lol
Does that make me athe best player?
thats most likely not how it was intended to be sapphrie
Please even I have better excuses
TD?
It was, bcz it wasn't like that until her release. Her trait would work just like Life Totem.
no the heal
It technically isn't a heal
yeah it isnt
let me explain
You know how certain monsters barely damaged with taunt?
They return to their normal full hp
It's like that: she dies, buff gone, max HP goes down but not the current, she comes back, the current life gets boosted again
yeah that was not intentional lol
But that makes sense
If she's gone the effect is gone and they return to their orginal hp
It boosts the TOTAL life. Not maximum.
Then when she is revived they buff monsters again
But my priority is currently sher
o rielly can help me in nature
im going for thalassa
This fact is the reason her boost was scrapped from being Double Life
i have an r3 hookuai i can use now
Gd luck
Thallasa responds stupidly to anticipation monsters
And abyss bottoms the monster at lowest rank in the team with the least life
Heroic donjon broken ?
Hmm?
New heroic dungeons open tomorrow @narrow cape
Hooray
Need help Sherezar or ragnorak
Whatever happened to the lv10 rune dungeon that was going to run along side the warmaster rotation? Did they bin that idea?
i think so
Is warmaster necromancer the worst out of all of them
Isn’t heroic dungeon warmaster dungeon
Necromancer is the worst yes
He's fallen off the wagon, and continues to meet the wheels on the way down
I’ll still disagree
Zahra has risen with her boosting the tanks permeating the meta, Babari is the best thunder attacker/debatably monster in general, and Barbael.....situational on that one lol
Barbael's trait is phenomenal, but it's a trade off between the two
Barbari, the best monster? Lmao??
If you don't think so then sadly I will further disregard your opinion 😉
And don't misconstrue my words, I specifically said thunder
with one of these - /
Oh I read that wrong then
denoting attacker/monster in thunder
monster lolol Thalassa the disgusting creature
Only in my heart 😭

? he is right
Babari is definitely not even close to being the best thunder
Having the ability to counter faraday doesn't give him that position
Nothing beats Discharguer as the best Thunder attacker
In this age of Anticipation though, the 2nd place would probably go to Obscure/ Babari depending on the situations in which they are being used
When does heroic heroic dungeon reset
The worst Warmaster is Zahra
And in between June 1-4 is when the Warmaster Dungeons will reopen
Barbari is the best Thunder Monster so far but as for the best Warmaster is between Elvira, Sherezar, Thalassa, and Ragnarok who are all placed in the OP Tier
Eh, Necro’s Ai really hurts his value.
But he is SS Tier along with Remntar and Babari
Zahra is SS-
Also nah, best WM is undisputedly Thalassa, and Elvira isn’t at the other 3’s level.
Competitive wiki rankings are wack
Eh, but I can’t say they are 100% wrong, ever since some monsters gained 2 abilities instead of 1
I can say they’re 100% wrong
Originally O’Reilly was SS- till they moved him up to SS+
Shoot, Shyrnus is ranked higher than Malair XD
But yeah, I do love these Warmasters
is it possible to get a warmaster with only monsters that aren't nemesis or anything like it
Ofc
Measuring monster's powers based on tier is not a good idea
And competitive fandom is biased
Competitive wiki tiers are complete garbage and shouldn't ever be looked at
Idk why people consider Zahra the worst WM when Barbael exists 😂
Still
I think they don't know what kind of an impact the life boost can have, especially if you're up against charmless (same element)
I'd still consider babari the worst WM, sure, he's good against faraday, but he isn't so great against a lot of other thunders, voltaik being the first who comes to mind
how many orbs do u need for r0 warmaster?
2300
@inland trail same element against Charmless doesn't really matter, because he can make any enemy weak to Nature attacks (unless they resist it, like Hardened+ monsters, or are immune to it, like Artifacts)
Yeah, but the extra life paired with some relics can make it harder for him to kill you 
True
I agree with what Andrej said for the most part, but not about Babari
He's one of the better chain attackers, and while Voltaik might have a residual damage move, depending on runes and relics, I'm not sure Voltaik can own Babari
Voltaik is just an example for extra turn thunder attackers, no? i mean Zyla exists
Also should i rank5 my Sherezar or Rank2 my Ragnarok later this month
Rank 5 Sherezar?
that seems like the obvious choice Orb efficient wise indeed, but i dunno if i should prioritize it to getting a new skill on Ragnarok 🤔
Ragnarok gets the resurrection skill at rank 3
Charmless requires a great stamina draining relic to drain it
ouch
I’m using thalassa should I use blob or vodnayay
Blob
I'm going for my first war master and I have the orbs so which one should I go for??
Many say elvira but idk
elvria
Rem & Ragg are also great options
Who is rem oof
Skill mirror & Special protection isn't a bad thing
- he can aoe 50% stun & he can spam 33% shield
I have good fire, earth, water, light, magic and thunder monsters
I'm playing from 2 months I was having 0 metal legendary now got makugan, M2, Hackstar soon mirak r3
😅
K
Scrap is good ik that but idk bout copperbeard
Use copper with

Is he denier?
Aoe stun
Oh cool might try

But I think I'll go for elvira first and then the metal guy
Which is good for attack? Cuz ik elvira is support
wait did u say speed on captain copperbead
I have 2 nature legends and they both s**t so cant go for ragg just yet
Cool
lol
why is he a mountain again?
He can be an attacker
why not
Lol
nonsense
fenrir+him is good
😐
since hes immune to stun
Yea
and gets 3x damage
#monster-discussion guys
nice
😱
😱
Cain has triple damage to bleeding monsters and I use scrap warrior with him who has aoe bleed and then I use stigmata from cain and the whole other team is dead
wowwowowowowow
Cain + Storm beard are op
Then kihaku for deny
i hope i get storm beard
I can kill a lvl 100 to lvl 110 monsters who are normal legends in 3 moves
I may get storm from progressive but I hope I didn't wasted gems on hack
If storm cost -100 I can get him
I'm gonna get 300 gems next few days cuz I'm doing 2 tasks 1 for 160 gems and the other for 140 gems
Bcz I'm going to spend 100+ in cell week
😁😁
We should move to #ml-general-discussion
Yh
What the what
Well, babari can't deal nearly as much damage as volt, zyla or faraday, and he's definitely not a chain attacker
And I mentioned volt because of the residual damage and healing mask, but I guess Ingvar's Banner can work the same way with zyla in this case
Sorry, but I just can't seem to see what's so good about him so that many people speak of him as a top 3 or best thunder
@inland trail Voltaik is the second best electric monster
@dusty nymph that’s a hard level, I beat it with Gorg and Kihaku
I did the entire dungeon with gorg and Kihaku 😂
Voltaik second better thunder monster?
Kaori
Lol
I can understand if you say neo is better than voltaik but god
Well hydratilla is a nemesis
Well neo is a race monster
Agreed
Oh wait babari
Meh
Eletrion
Better than faraday imo
🤷
trait disable extra turner
Anticipation
Trait disable disabled
Faraday is by far the best thunder, volt and zyla come after, then copycat, neo and volthnar, then babari I guess
Eletron?
Are you kidding me
No way you ranked volt and zyla about babari
And honestly neo is better than copy cat
Eeltron has an aoe control immunity SC
Yea
Thats the speciality
Also, babari trash, change my mind 
But most monstes now have cda
I like aoe stun tho
Oof I changed peoples minds about
Timerion
Mirak
Wasper
But yours is the thickest mind to crack

I gave up trying a long time ago
What do you think about babari'
What about timerion and mirak though? 
Is BAD
Better to just let opinions differ
People thought timerion and mirak succ
Babari = 💩
He's OK, not the best, but good in certain situations
No smaug never been in a dictatorship
SOOO why is he bad?
That doesn't make barbari bad
If he is not the best
When I call him bad it's in a joking manner
...
i did beat it
But his damage is lacking when compared to some other thunders, and he's an attacker
K so I don't have to change your opinion about babari being bad?
His trait does him justice with damage
And plus he can do a lot of damage
Just get the extra turns and finish with a strong aoe or a strong otk
I said when compared to some other thunders
Your comparing him to voltaik and zyla eh
I know you hate voltaik samg
I don't have babari and use voltaik
Volt and Zyla ahead of Babari, let alone second and third in Thunder I’ll never understand
But voltaik is heavily countered by stamina draining relics
Not really? ho ho
You hit the monster who doesn't have the relic, he can easily avoid them
But if he has a major threat he has to take out first
Be sure that if the monster has an exhausting mask
Your done for
And multiple stamina draining relics
babari is also tanky
He can hold healing stuff in his relic slots
And a different entire issue is the fact that anticipation monsters are not that rare anymore
Thx rag
Good at getting around the newer tanks too :DrakeYea:
Volt is great at that too
And you don't have to hit that monster until until you can OHK it
Mine doesn't either
Using 50k volts tells me you don't know how to use him
Well with a jazzy mask thats the first skill i will use
And I do have one
You can avoid relics but remember. The enemy team may have all the monsters with stamina draining relics
Key word may
Also the volt is always not lvl 130
So its not like they are going to have a chance to otk the entire enemy team
He can do it even at lower levels if used correctly
There are a lot of factors you have to consider, but overall volt is still a lot better than babari
Oof
So I guess I'm one of those people you couldn't convince
Although convincing the ones who thought timerion and mirak were bad probably wasn't so hard
Convincing the guys wasper was good was a lot harder

Well most of the people I convinced timerion was good
Was done by beating them with timerion
Which tbh is kinda cheating
hE’s oLd AnD sLoW

Old but still the best metal 
Although a case could be made for talos IP
This is quite easily a 3 coin win
Didn't think about this before, but because timmy is an artifact, it doesn't even matter much if they reflect explosion
I already did this friendly battle, missed the control on ruby, but still won
Just waited for the skill mirror to wear off and then timerion does his thing
Maybe I'll do and record this battle, can get pretty interesting and strategic
Doesn't even matter if I miss on their ruby, it's an automatic 3 coin win as long as the other two get hit

Babari sucks, Zyla is first Voltaik second copycat third the neo and idk after
Faraday intensifies
this is what i was saying yesterday xD
if there's a thunder war. im gonna take faraday over anything lmao
Well, the dischauger is the best thunder and no one else can come close
If you say so
Its pointless to try and make Andrej realise that Babari is better than Voltaik or Zyla 😶
He has a Mask and Amulet slot, can reasonably shrug off the Anticipation threat, and has excellent base stats and decent dmg moves
I really dunno why he's such a fan of Voltaik...
Because battling with him is safe
Stats don't matter
Volt and zyla have better relic slots
Sorry, but you can't convince me babari is a top thunder monster
Being a WM isn't enough
Babari can easily wreck volt and zyla
For babari having a amulet slot instead of sword is really helpful, as you can heal (bronze or diamond) and even increase his base stamina
A ranked babari can also go against anticipation, he might not be the best war master but he is definitely better than zyla or volt
they dont even have a r0 babari xd
id say actually use the monster before saying its bad
can someone send me the stats of the monsters in sherezar floor 2 last node plz
?
Babari is better than them lol
I didn't expect to hear that stats don't matter from u, Andrej 😅
Volt and Zyla are the definition of "fragile" monsters these days
I won't try and grow u out of ur love for Volt, but pl, don't deny that Babari is a top Thunder monster 😉
He's an extremely well balanced and useful WM, and a decent attacker by his own right
And for those who think Babari can deal with Anticipation only at r4+, u're forgetting his SG3 and SG2 extra turn moves apply blind and minor blind respectively.... Now imagine a rainbow runed Babari face off against a Faraday (other than Discharguer). There's definitely a far, far better chance than either of Volt/ Zyla that Babari can use his extra turns and still not hand over the match to Faraday, and that's not even considering relics coming into play...
Does anyone know the date for Nemesis days
As I said, he counters faraday, but not as good against others
Well, he's not really top 3, maybe not even top 5, but is the best option against faraday, especially if you don't have your own faraday (dischauger)
I personally really like him, partially because of the design, partially because he has a rather interesting and unusual skillset, and even though I'm sure he'd be more fun to use than faraday or volt, it doesn't make him better 
ngl
volt is garbage
like steaming poop
actually flaming poop
that was thrown off a cliff
and landed in a larger pile of poop
Because?
just doin my part to fuel the fire
So you have no reasons?
BTW, John and I are teammates who often have debates like this, so there's no 'fire' 
Well he's great

Rune suggestions???
Give Shademoon and Wasper another red each
Or atleast Shademoon...
He'll be the key monster in the fight, with his Area Dodge and Spirit hater moves
@hasty dock You’re a legend
I'm glad u got him 😉
I run shademoon with 2 power one speed and I hate wasper so. But! I did run him with all power because of his evasion
@jagged lake I legit had to use the Russian bear guy. The one that does 100% team shield. To tank the reflect and hoped to god makugan would make it with her evasion move 😂
@hasty dock Babari is terrible. The amount of anticipation users nowadays he’s the one warmaster I have never used since I got him. I’ve even used zahra. But Bavaria only once until I realized how awful he is so I have to disagree with you
Babari has some blind and minor blind skills to deal with the anticipation, and has a better bulk than most of the other extra turners
Yeah if he goes first and he probably won’t
I’m doing remtar floor one last node but I can’t beat it which one of these monster would help me out I also have metalhead stinger baroness ultrabot quxiote and metalhead can you help me. Assemble a team and what runes to put on them
Patient cyber tank and copper I’d say
This is the monster I’m up against
I got lucky and I beat it with a couple ranked monsters
Nice but I only have one rank monster it’s so hard to rank monsters
Yeah I’d use the team that I just said
Tank for tanking hits cyber is your main deny and copper for you damage
Probably cyber
Tank is your last concern I think
With copper being the middle child
If not you could use scrap warrior instead of cyber
Find out what your team can help with the most
Ok but cyber cells are rare
Yeah I know that lol. That’s why I gave you a second option
Alright thxs for the help I’ll be grinding
Your welcome! Good luck my man.
Yes next up is remetar
Sadness
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@signal heath every player has his own opinion 😉
@hasty dock oh they do sir
I like to think out of the box and try out new and fun strats, so most often my ideas don't go along with the general opinion 😊
Hey I wasn’t saying your wrong I’m just saying if you can make it work have at it. I just can’t....
I just said he has a better viability against Anticipation attackers than most other extra turners...
Even charmless? Minuses marquise
Yes, even Charmless
Babari's extra turn moves do a lot more than simply apply elemental weakness, and he has a very worrysome AoE SC, none of which Charmless can offer
Ok so I'm at the last node in the sherry dungeon but I'm having some trouble
(Last node on the 2nd floor)
These are the only monsters I have
What should I do
Sorry about all the pictures
Who’s on the last node again?
Sherezar Scrap Warrior and Voytek
can you send sherezar's stats in this node plz?
Strength: 3780 Speed: 7176 Life: 53801
♥
i will be using baron traitor
I recommend also using Shademoon and Wasper if you have them
Shademoon's spirit hater really helps deal massive damage against sherezar
I have 300+ orbs left after completing sherry floor 2
You guys think I should get some progress on Thalassa?
If you plan to get her to R1 then ye
@weak moon congrats
r0 WMs ranked?


Thalassa is very useful even unranked. Rank 1 she gets AOE mega freeze but rank 0 she has AOE drowned+freeze
whats the best r1 skillset for thalassa
im thinking aoe mega freeze, aoe freeze hater, freeze hater extra turn, per extra turn
With thalassa's chosen you don't need ocean rain, swap it for the aoe freeze+drown
Yes as Andrej said
Ocean Rain is only useful for supportive build for lower lvl Thalassas
Handy for going up against the likes of Pierceid
Glad I already have this beast 

Flexes with his 130 on Varenne
Varenne is Nicole's acc so it doesn't count
Good choice of Runes for Thalassa. I’m gonna focus on getting more water cells before I go for her
@winter river What did you give her relic wise?
do they have any metal trait disablers for remntar dungeon
shrugs
The relics for thalassa you MUST run supercharged amulet for shield doesn't matter but thetys armor is the perfect choice the shield armors aren't that much of a choice because they expire after 10 turns and she is a heavy extra turner
What about the relic that gives you armour when u get hit then?
Its better for higher rank monsters who don't have the risk of getting OHK'd
Finally got my 2nd warmaster, Sherry! 😍
cool
God no
What are the rank 1 and rank 2 skills for gortak
I going to save up for elvira next
Any good light monsters I could breed for her dungeon?
Arch knight
@limpid spear Watch Out Gortak! and Full Yager.
how many heroic orbs for floor 4?
Orbs Required For Each Floor For Warmaster
1st floor 20x40 =800
2nd floor 25x60 = 1500
3rd floor 30x80 = 2400
4th floor 35x100=3500
5th floor 40x120=4800
6th floor 45x150=6750
Nicole went to ROTN and left me Varenne 
About the armor for thalassa, thetys' armor kinda bad, heavy duty or atum's, even nebotus' are mich better choices
Should I go for Thalassa rank 1? I need water cells for Hookuai and Gorg
I'm using Bella Baal, cloud and kaori in Elvira dungeon
Got Bella at rank one but don't want to spend too much elementium on cloud
So should I replace cloud with atvh Knight or kaori with arch knight?
Got her
Wow 280 cells of kihaku... @misty elm
Amazing
Kihaku fan?
I have r3 kihaku too
Oof


