monster-discussion

[drowsy stream]

No

[lapis current]

lmao just try a million times and u will eventually win

u will eventually notice a trend to why u are losing so just fix that and u will eventually win

[slow imp]

Ragnarok or Remntar for PVP?

[ember plume]

rag imo

[lapis current]

defo rag

[gray oracle]

how do i bet floor 2 elvira

[stark rain]

elvira last node floor 2 i had to get ingvar bodyguard to survive the metal instakills

[slow imp]

[fiery skiff]

Metalhead you should be happy

[drowsy stream]

With intense amount of luck with bad AI on the 12th try when Holters Pet used his single damage skill instead of his AoE instant kill on Kaori who surlived it with 42k life to 2k llife then used double+triple damage to finish the pet then Sir Whatever. Then it ended

[fiery skiff]

👏

[chilly ridge]

Thanks to the user who gave me tips last month, I got Al Canine to r1 and now I have Elvira!

[barren arch]

That’s great new. Congratulations 😃

[tired ginkgo]

same here! 😛

[barren arch]

👌🏻

[chilly ridge]

Congrats! And thanks! 😊👍

[tired ginkgo]

[little berry]

can’t get passed the last node 😦 I have Bella Baal, general ingvar, ahran, and rocigon all r1

any tips?

[serene spoke]

Just get lucky with the ai

Im still on last 3 but ive heard people say they get lucky with ai

[little berry]

ok

[slow dome]

Any advice for surviving holters pet and sir automatronic? I have bella, taiga, demise and arch knight r1. Been using the first 3 where taiga attacks than bella. Than demise gives bella another turn. With this i can 1 shot holter pet but after that i get defeated.

[viral wren]

😄

My team was Bella, Al Canine and r2 Esthirel

[slow dome]

For floor 2?

[viral wren]

Yup

[slow dome]

Thanks ill rank al canine and congrats

[viral wren]

Thank you

I would say I got really lucky

Because Holter’s pet missed his hit

[slow dome]

👍

[viral wren]

👍

[gentle lance]

Approx 50 attempts in last node of 2nd floor dungeon.

Anyone have elvira at lvl 105.

????

[tired ginkgo]

i think i have the same amount of attempts done😂

[magic thicket]

The ones who are trying to complete Elvira dungeons

I have tip for you

Use al canine has denier

Gakora as ts holder

And taiga as attacker

I won the last node without losing a single hp

[tired ginkgo]

errr but wheres the per

[magic thicket]

Per?

[tired ginkgo]

positive effect removal

[mortal bay]

Gakora

[tired ginkgo]

forgot he or she had that🤔

[orchid sonnet]

Rocigon / Bella / Al Canine - I did one shot it, without any prior experience.

Al Canine Guard down Hater, Rocigon Double Dmg, Bella PER, al Canine guard down + cda, Rocigon transfer to Bella, Bella One shot.

Every one had a single HP rune, while 2 speed on Al and Rocigon and 2 Str on Bella.

[magic thicket]

The trick is first al canine will use gaurd down hater

Then gakora will do aoe evasion

So Elvira will do photo phobic shield while autonormicus and holter pet recharge

Then taiga will do ready to hunt

Then al canine will apply aoe cd activated and gaurd down to all enemies as the evasion of Elvira is gone

Then gakora will do some random skill ...

Taiga will do fatal ambush

It will deal double damage and gaurd hater too...

So 5X damage

And its a light based skill so it can pass through photophobic shield

That's how I won the last node without losing single hp

[honest tundra]

Finally first wm

[clear shore]

Congrats

[barren arch]

Fab news. Many Congratulations 😃🎆🎇💪🏼

[lapis current]

is it worth doing the dungeons

just for the elemental cells

i need metal and magic

for r4 and r5 monsters

to get r5 ragnorak

[ember plume]

yeah

Both wms are very good

Of metal and magic

[lapis current]

calm

was planning on geting sherezar to r4 anyways

but I dont use remntar so thats the problem

[tired ginkgo]

you should

[lapis current]

coz for my defence i got wang zhou sherezar and fire frog

nt sure what to replace

[tired ginkgo]

what about, nothing🤔

[lapis current]

yeah

so no place for remntar 😃

[viral wren]

What warmaster would be best to go for after Elvira??

[fiery skiff]

Rag

[serene spoke]

Finally i can pair her up with a low lvl dun

[little berry]

@viral wren Ragnarok

[naive carbon]

Thalassa or Sherezar R0?

[lapis current]

sher

[naive carbon]

Hmm then Sher or Ragna? R0 aswell

[tired ginkgo]

rag

[frozen crane]

what moves should i change

[kind crane]

Not them

[inland trail]

Sinner agony for Aura of Wrath, Repent Sinner can be changed for protection light

[frozen crane]

why aura of wrath and not aura of trust

oh wait nvm im confusing the two

lol

ignore that question

[silk stump]

When will you have nemesis dungeons?

[honest tundra]

Guys how can i beat this dungeon lvl

[hasty dock]

Use all speed on Demise and all ts on Cloud

Or better yet, speed on both Cloud and Demise

Demise can go first, use Endless Celebration to remove Evasion, TT to Taiga using Cloud, and OHK that Holter's Pet

Then for round 2, use Demise's Strength from Beyond on Taiga and whip someone else, preferably Automatronicus

Remember to use the skill Invisible Hunter for the second round

Shield up using Cloud by this time, and Demise can start off round 3 with her AoE dmg boost. Taiga can use Ready to Hunt for this turn for a triple dmg next turn and OHK Elvira using his 70 dmg special based attack

This should really get it done...

@honest tundra

[honest tundra]

Thx

But what rune lvl do you recommend

What is OHK?

[little berry]

@honest tundra - OHK - One hit kill

Runes lvls 5/6/7 will be nuff for this

[honest tundra]

What move should i use to OHK the holtrr

[little berry]

Use hidden kill or invisible hunter

[honest tundra]

OK

[little berry]

Use invisible hunter first and then use the skill hidden kill

[strange dagger]

Do i need enemy team PER for the ragnarok floor 1 with nature monsters ?

[hasty dock]

I don't think so

Floor 1s are pretty easy usually

[little berry]

I’m struggling on this late node

Tried like 3 times

I have rank 1 taiga, rank 2 rocigon, and rank 1 of the breedable light monster

[clear shore]

get lucky with ai

[little berry]

Rip

[clear shore]

or gem it for 2 lives but that's cheating

[little berry]

The holter’s pet is my biggest problem, because it just kills me with one atk, since it has like 9200 power

How do u gem for 2 lives?

What does that mean

[clear shore]

after being defeated

is there an option to try again with 10 gems?

[little berry]

Oh, before it did, but not anymore

[clear shore]

rip

[little berry]

I think I only get those for survival dungeons

U

[clear shore]

try and outsmart the AI, since it prioritizes low health monsters first

[little berry]

But u also have to be on ur last team

[clear shore]

go for that

and having speed runes is useless

just replace it with life or ts runes

[little berry]

I’ll try, got three days to figure it out before the rotation

[clear shore]

gl

[little berry]

I have lvl 5 and 6 strength in tiaga, but I don’t it helps

[clear shore]

screenshot their runes

so I can see

[little berry]

Ok

Lvl 5 mutate rune on arch knight

[clear shore]

okay THATS HARD

[little berry]

Yeah, I don’t have another rank 1 or higher lights, so I might have to to sit on this node until I get better monster

[clear shore]

you can't one shot the holter's pet

[little berry]

I have a cloud, but it’s only lvl 100

The struggles

[clear shore]

your best bet is to take out the holters pet

leave the 2 alone

[little berry]

What’s a good light monster to rank up?

I have Demise and cloud

[clear shore]

lady solaris was out

[little berry]

Darn, I only have her at 50 and I think she only has 1 rune slot

[clear shore]

oof

lady solaris has spirit and winged hater

rip

[placid granite]

Why can't you buy a nemesis? Why do you have to spend $50 for a 50/50 chance that is not guaranteed for $50 you should get a egg. A friend of mine got a nemesis chest and got nothing but trash out of the 8 packs of 50 two of the 50 cell packs were breedable now that's no mercy. I understand its a business and they have to make $ some how but make good business. $50 for a maybe is beyond ruthless.

Maybe for the chest for $8 but come on $50 gets you a maybe what did the monster legends community do to be on those kinds of terms?

Its almost as if we are buying from the black market and it's like all sales are final and you get what you are given.

BTW all sales are not final sp will not compensate you but if you get a hold of Google play they will. Why does it have to be like this?

Awsome game but really bad business imo.

[fiery skiff]

#general-feedback maybe? But you're right

[tough wraith]

@placid granite this has been brought up many times since those Nemesis chests have been implemented and there has been total silence by SP. As you say, I also believe it is really bad business practice apart from also being a rather despicable way of extracting $$$ from your players. The only thing you can do and you can do it only once, is to buy a chest and if it doesn't give you the Nemesis you want, claim a refund through Google/Apple. If lots of people do this, maybe it will change at some point....

[fleet oriole]

@tough wraith would SP ban you for doing that though?

[tough wraith]

No, they take away what you have purchased and give you a warning. I know a few that did this. Spending $20 and getting Hayman cells - I'd claim a refund, too, it's their own bloody fault for using such criminal sales tactics. I just wish consumer affairs in various countries would take the problem with the loot boxes in mobile games more serious and ban them or regulate them like gambling, ie. game will be 18+ under threat of serious penalties when allowing minors access!!! @fleet oriole I reported this to the ACCC in Australia and received a very disappointing response....

[fleet oriole]

wow

[placid granite]

Hayman cells! I would be beyond mad 😲🔫

[hot stream]

what time are discount orb offers?

[sand coral]

random every day

[honest tundra]

I finally did it

After so many rune swaps

[tired ginkgo]

gratz👌

i had to use life runes to pass that node lol

[fleet oriole]

same

i had 3 life on demise XDD

[honest tundra]

I used speed on both demise and cloud

Had to have lots of damage on taiga

[misty elm]

Cloud is better with Team Speed

[tired ginkgo]

eh its elvira dungeon

[jolly iris]

Warmaster battles are so easy?

[fleet oriole]

usually easy until the last node

[ember plume]

pretty easy

[fiery skiff]

Until the very last node then the difficulty goes up a bit against them wm.

[shrewd sigil]

Question .. .is trait disable remove megataunt any answer will help thanks

[pearl prism]

Trait disable will not remove any positive effects. You need a move that reads like this as mega taunt is a positive effect not a trait

@shrewd sigil

[shrewd sigil]

Thanks but I'm asking for dun ra I wonder why barbael not remove megataunt since it's a trait

@VargRanger (Untamable) were dealing on ur team right now

[serene meteor]

because she gives herself that effect its not just the trait

[pearl prism]

It isnt a trait at all. It is a status caster, which applies an effect.
Status caster can be thought of like tenacity shield, Applied at the start of the battle and never used again.
The only way to remove it with barbael is with his special.
You could try demise,ingenica ,crissandre

Or another way to think of a status caster is as a skill that is used at the start of battle. So enemy dunn ra went first regardless of speed, and used mega taunt on herself

[unkempt holly]

So I got all 3 talos at r1 and can take one of them to r2, who should it be and why?

[shrewd sigil]

Yes got it thanks

[little berry]

@unkempt holly The Island Protector. He has the best stats for his role, a stronger group attack, a better torture effect; also a direct advantage over his element, which is certainly more tanky than magic over which the Forgotten Artifact casts a shadow. Furthermore, Talos can disable traits, so the frequency of immmunity ones isn't an issue. Stun is more reliable than possession. It's a guaranteed turn-take-away. With possession, the enemy may charge, use an extra turn skill, buff themselves or hurt your team with the drawbacks of their skills. As a little bonus on top, I'll say the IP looks cooler - clean, shiny, majestic purple and those huge blades. The FA looks as though he has laser pencils attached to his arms. Just me though.

[misty elm]

I'm a little bit confused on those majestic purple huge blades 😂

[little berry]

[unkempt holly]

Thanks @little berry

[mortal bay]

Grrr where's my Gortak dungeon

[tame beacon]

Coming Wednesday 😃

[mortal bay]

😪😪😪

I'm not patient enough

2 whole days

[clear shore]

how much does it cost to get a r0 warmaster?

[tame beacon]

2300 orbs

[clear shore]

ok thanks

is there any orb events coming soon?

thinking to buy orbs when orb discount come

but there might be orb events coming soon

[little berry]

When the next warmasters come to dungeons?

[clear shore]

I heard it was wednesday

[drowsy stream]

First WM

[clear shore]

congrats

[drowsy stream]

Thanks

[gilded plank]

What light monsters to get to fight Elvira

I have cloud and rocigon

[stark rain]

I used Ingvar & ingvar bg + taiga

[gilded plank]

Crap

Could of gotten taiga

For breeding event

[dreamy wagon]

im going for both babari and ragnarok soon

i already have a team for both

[little berry]

good luck ^^

[dreamy wagon]

heres the team for both (please help me)
Ragnarok : Saulot + VoltaiK + Treetopog
Babari : VoltaiK + GN Uria + Uria BG

i dont have a thunder deny

😔

[viral meteor]

What are the best warmaster's to rank? I just finished ranking Elvira to 130.

[fickle acorn]

Thalassa and Sherezar.

[little berry]

Uria’s BG worked for me in Babari dungeon. Might encounter some problems if you’re going for him ranked but otherwise you should be fine with that team.

[dreamy wagon]

thanks man

[high abyss]

holy gems

[dusty nymph]

what are the levels of the monsters in the wm dungeons

first node started at 85 for me but do their levels get higher the further you go?

[high abyss]

its fixed

to 100-110 for first 2 floors

[dusty nymph]

wdym its fixed @high abyss

first node isnt 85 anymore?

[lucid plaza]

@dreamy wagon how are you going to ragnarock if you have a team of 3 diff. elements? ragnarock is nature for the first floor and earth for second

get*

[dreamy wagon]

oh i got confused for a second there

😅

i got a team for nature but idk bout earth

[strange dagger]

Do i need "enemy PER" on my nature monsters for ragnarok floor 1 ?

[tired ginkgo]

for higher win chances

[strange dagger]

I'm just asking, because my nature monsters are not that good

[tired ginkgo]

edit that please

[strange dagger]

Got tretopog, talika 105 and prolly gonna add a random epic

better?

[tired ginkgo]

yes

[strange dagger]

Guess i just have to try if it works out like that

[lost mulch]

Hawk, I'm collecting suggestions on the best choice out of these: r0 Remntar, r1 Ragnarok, r1 Thalassa. Any thoughts?

[fleet oriole]

r1 thalassa

definetly

[little berry]

Eh. She’s good at R1, but without the trait disables she isn’t as strong.

I’d say if you need a denier sure, or if you need help in Water. If not I think Rag might be better.

[inland trail]

If you don't plan to eventually get her to 120 I'd go for rag

[lost mulch]

Im not getting her 120, so ill stick with your recommendation Andrej. Thanks for comments

[ember dew]

@little berry I’d say you could get the node done if you have good monsters and good runes.
I completed the last node with Talika, Alces Bodyguard, and Opiuchus

[frozen crane]

Should i struggle on the stages to get thalassa at only 105 or go for 120 sherezar with an easy time

i have more resources for sherezar dungeon

[high abyss]

get sherezar

he gets his best skill at 120

[inland trail]

Random spellbook isn't his best skill, the CDA is (110)

[misty elm]

Should I make Warthak 120? I'm getting a lot of Earth cells from my Mushu army 😄

[ember plume]

Yes

[analog oracle]

👀

Finally got he4

Her*

[tired ginkgo]

is that

thalassa?

[little berry]

Yes it is

[analog oracle]

Oui ma frens

[dusty nymph]

@analog oracle what teams did you use

[balmy goblet]

Ragnarok or thalassa?

[ember plume]

rag at ranks 0-2 and thallasa any rank above that imo

[hasty dock]

Random Spellbook only loses out to Ruby Explosion as a control skill. But as a plus, it'll always land atleast, and there's a bonus torture effect too

[little berry]

And a good buff for allies.

[inland trail]

Or you'll get some stupid close to useless effect, it's random
I've noticed that shock/nanovirus seems to be landing the most (although only been using that skill for one day)

[little berry]

I think almost all of Sherezar's and O'Reilly's random buffs are great. Few are situational. But that's all

[misty elm]

Yeah, somehow they get only good effects (Evasion, Dodge Area, Damage Boost, ...), while the older monsters can apply any random effect (including useless ones)

[inland trail]

I've gotten trait protection once too, pretty trashy in most cases

[misty elm]

With Thalassa everywhere ...

Although she could still just remove it first 😄

[inland trail]

[fleet oriole]

What combination of monsters can I use to kill thalassa bases

[misty elm]

Depends on Thalassa's rank

Dunn Ra works really good, also Gorg

A Taunt monster with an Anticipation attacker works good too

Dodge Area helps too

Also Control Immunity works too

[inland trail]

Bring a faster thalassa

[fleet oriole]

xD

Koralle Gorg Marquis?

[hasty dock]

The best possible combo would be Dunn Ra/ Clipeum/ Koralle + Frosilka/ Hydratila + an attacker Anticipation monster, preferably Faraday

[high abyss]

hes not the best at 100

[inland trail]

He's one of the worst, if not the worst WM...

[fickle acorn]

I wouldn't say worst.

[tired ginkgo]

andrej, kevin said babari not barbael

[fickle acorn]

Lol.

[little berry]

Babari big underrated change my mind

[fickle acorn]

^

[ember plume]

^

[tired ginkgo]

yeah

thats awful

[ember plume]

#recruit-members

There are several teams there

Ok dude

[tired ginkgo]

look in #recruit-members or post a ss of ur profile in #find-a-team-old

[inland trail]

Yes, I know he said babari, I'd even consider barbael > babari

[ember plume]

Andrej previously said that he preferred volt to barbael

[tired ginkgo]

wot

[ember plume]

And people have something called an opinion

Incredible Ik

[tired ginkgo]

i mean

[inland trail]

Yes, people have an opinion
And I'd still prefer volt over those two

[tired ginkgo]

barbael cant be better

[ember plume]

Tyrael

Admit it

Your a little biased

[tired ginkgo]

🤔

[little berry]

Barbael > Babari oof

[ember plume]

I prefer babari > barbael tho

[inland trail]

Barbael has better skills, babari has a better trait and SC (although barbael's trait is a lot more useful than it seems)

[little berry]

Better skills is pretty subjective though surely. Especially comparing monsters of two different roles.

[inland trail]

And better relic slots

[hasty dock]

@little berry get Babari for sure, he's a seriously underrated WM, who can be devastating if paired up with the right teammates

I'll get him myself, before Barbael, once I'm finished working on Thalassa

Although I have to agree that Barbael is somewhat underrated too

[naive cairn]

He can be a great help tbh

He can boost team and deny a little that can be handy

[ember dew]

Does anyone know why some of the warmasters not have status casters? Such as barbael/gortak?

[tired ginkgo]

no idea

[lusty shell]

Be c a use ThEy wEre RELeased laTer

[little berry]

It’s cause SP probably didn’t have the idea for status casters yet. Obviously knew they wanted to give Warmasters some sort of area traits, but never had any form of classification for it.

[brittle hemlock]

I wouldn't say that they didn't have the idea, just that they hasn't coded it well enough to work properly.

[misty elm]

Well, the others have other things for them, like Gortak has Control Immunity and Necro has Anticipation. Imagine them as Status Casters for the whole team 😄

Poor Barbael just sits there with Tough and Damage Boost (which can be very useful, though)

[little berry]

Well they essentially all have status casters though, Gortak’s Area stun immunity, Necro’s area Possession immunity and Barbael’s area damage boost. It’s just not listed as a status caster.

[misty elm]

Ragnarok on the other hand ...

No, because other WM's also have area traits in addition to Status Casters (Elvira has Blind Immunity, Babari has Torture Immunity, Thalassa has Freeze Immunity, ...)

[little berry]

Oof guess that’s true

[misty elm]

Ragnarok has 3 traits + SC 😄

Only Gortak and Barbael have only 2 traits, but Gortak's trait trumps Tough

Too bad Warthak is a better attacker

[little berry]

Yeah, Rag’s trait is absurd on paper. He’s still really strong but I think he was handled well overall in terms of balance especially when he’s literally based on every other Warmaster.

[misty elm]

Yeah, no aoe's helped, plus he can have garbage SC's

[frozen crane]

whats sherry's recommended moveset from r4 and onwards

[misty elm]

Hmmm

[frozen crane]

is it
random spellbook
gm scroll
great dispel
wizards negation

[misty elm]

Protective Spell/Wizard's Negation/Great Dispel/Rejuvenation (pick two)
Grandmaster Scroll
Random Spellbook

[frozen crane]

id prob run negation and dispel

thx

[misty elm]

😉

You can always change your skills

I don't recommend Great Dispel for pvp defense, though

I won multiple battles because the enemy Sherezar removed the dots on my monsters

[frozen crane]

yeah i know

im leaving sherezar on offense permanently

and once sherry hits r4, xirons gonna take the defense position

and leave offense permanently

[misty elm]

Hmmm

While Xiron's (Ruby I assume) Control skill is better, Sherezar's True Vision makes sure it lands

Plus CDA is just too good

[mortal bay]

Torture Control and a pos effect

Better than Explosion

[frozen crane]

^

actually i might run dispel rejuvenation instead of dispel negation for sherry once hes r4

[mortal bay]

I don't use negation

[frozen crane]

ill abandon negation once its r4

[mortal bay]

#ml-youtube Go check that video

[inland trail]

Negotiation is useful if you're using him as a secondary denier

[mortal bay]

Negation would be a waste

[frozen crane]

negation isnt good for primary i assume

[inland trail]

As a primary denier you don't need that skill

[frozen crane]

ok so
great dispel
rejuvenation
gm scroll
random spellbook

got it

r4 sherezar here i come

[misty elm]

Sigh ... wish I could have him 😄

[inland trail]

Also, I wouldn't really say random spellbook > ruby explosion
Sure, it gives torture (which explosion does too, and there's only one better torture effect than ignition), and a random positive effect which may be useless half the time
But explosion gives 2 control effects, spellbook gives one, even with true vision, 2 effects are better (when facing monsters who are immune to a certain control effect and they have a higher chance to land a megacontrol effect)

[frozen crane]

actually wait i need to rank my xiron first lol

that wont be a problem since i prob wont finish floor 3 before i get to r5 xiron

[misty elm]

That's not a bad idea 😄

[frozen crane]

after this race im only gonna be 20 cells off from ranking xiron to r4

[misty elm]

Then you need 740 cells ...

[inland trail]

I'd rather spend orbs on other WMs if you already have a R5 ruby

[frozen crane]

i mean

sherry elvira and thalassa r the ones that i have

rag ill get before ranking sherry

i dont think i want anyone else

[inland trail]

Get rag

[misty elm]

I might get Sherry for book rewards

[frozen crane]

yea i know

rag was way better than i expected when he came out

[misty elm]

Right now I only have 3500 orbs after getting a rank 2 Necro

[frozen crane]

to the point where i need him

lol

but rag is no biggie i have the orbs and the monsters for him

[misty elm]

Rank 2 Raggy needs rank 3 Fire monsters, right?

[inland trail]

He's pretty useful, TBH for me he came out worse than expected, but I'll still get him since my undead book trash

[frozen crane]

he came out much better than i expected

i thought he was gonna be remntar level at best

[misty elm]

And rank 3 Raggy needs rank 4 Metal monsters

[frozen crane]

i was dead wrong

[inland trail]

Although I'll have sherry for undead too

[frozen crane]

after 110, can i run sherry as a primary control

or should i wait til 120

[misty elm]

Now I understand: SHErezar 😄

[inland trail]

110 is good

Aoe CDA

I don't actually know what you get at 105
115 is rejuvenation, 120 is spellbook

[misty elm]

The random good effect to one ally

[inland trail]

[misty elm]

Yeah weird flex 😄

But those random effects are actually useful

[inland trail]

Well then that skill is pretty trash
I've been getting trash effects for the most part, but from spellbook

[misty elm]

Meh 🤷

[inland trail]

Trait protection

[misty elm]

🙄

[frozen crane]

105 is the trashy skill

except im gonna have to keep it otherwise itll probably mess up the sg4 skills that i can learn while ranking up sherezar

[inland trail]

It won't mess up anything, certain skills come at certain levels no matter what is your current skillset

[frozen crane]

o ok

good

never knew how it worked but now i can safely discard his 105 skill

[violet violet]

Best rank 3 war master

[little berry]

Sherry or Thalassa

[mortal bay]

Ragnarok

[unkempt holly]

Agree with ragnarok as well

[odd temple]

Good monsters to get gortak?

[ember plume]

rag

[little berry]

Ragnarok

[nocturne rover]

Will I be able to beat ragnorak dungeon with r1 Nabuline, r1 Koralle and r1 Killerraptor?

[little berry]

Sure.

[ember plume]

No

Its not that easy /:

nabuline can't deny enemy gortak

That can seriously do some damage

[nocturne rover]

Even with brutalis?

[magic thicket]

You need baba yaga

[ember plume]

I used balor gaia and buro

[fleet oriole]

Can i beat ragnarok with

R1 Eggknock, R1 Avaast, R3 Koralle

[misty elm]

Try it

[plush lance]

Could happen.

[jagged lake]

which warmaster should i get

give me 5 answers plz

[winter river]

Zahra

[misty elm]

Not Zahra 😄

At 100: Elvira, Remntar, Ragnarok are the best

[frozen zodiac]

If I have no legendaries but $1000 to spend can I get a max rank thalassa

@jagged lake ragnarok is pretty great but thalassa and Sherezar are very great ranked up

[unkempt holly]

@frozen zodiac you just need abt 7 gem packs to get all orbs for a r5 wm from scratch assuming you buy at discount for first 2 prices.

Though the price of the legends to get an is debatable

[frozen zodiac]

So ya can’t

[unkempt holly]

Wait it should be abt 5 gem packs

[magic thicket]

1000$ hmmm

[frozen zodiac]

Yea ya gotta buy rank 5 legends too

[hasty dock]

And the right ones too

[unkempt holly]

Hmm most ppl get legends through events where it is cheaper

Well some epics are useful too s9 cheaper

[hasty dock]

Indeed

Volray, for one, is very effective for the Thalassa dumgeons

Ur aim for later floors of Thalassa (or any WM, for that matter) would to bring as many Pestilence traps as possible

They make quite a lot of difference !!!

[unkempt holly]

I used a rare (nanuk) for r1 thalassa so there's another option to some point

[hasty dock]

Nothing lower than epics are very helpful for combat for floor 5 and above 😅

[inland trail]

I used mudflow and nanukk for floors 5 and 6

[stoic path]

Should I grt ragnarok 130 lvl or 115 lvl is enough?

[inland trail]

Depends on what other WMs you got @stoic path

He's pretty useful so a 130 is a good option

[stoic path]

Have ragnagrok 110 lvl, remntar 100 lvl and elvira 100 lvl. Also have talos 130 lvl

[inland trail]

I'd get rag to 115/120 and then work on 120/130 thalassa and sherry

[stoic path]

Thank you!

[frozen crane]

meanwhile i cant rank rag cuz i dont have good electric monsters xd

[frozen crane]

can 115 faraday solo rag's floor 3

[unkempt holly]

Floor 2 is earth, floor 3 is thunder

[frozen crane]

Whoops I meant floor 3 lol

I was thinking rank 2 and put floor 2

[magic thicket]

Gorg is better than volray @hasty dock

Sea hater

😉

[hasty dock]

Most people can't afford a r5 Gorg 😅

[little berry]

Hello, could someone tell me how much a warmaster would come out at level 120?

@little berry can't understand your question mate

How many heroic orbs do I need to get a 120 warmaster?

About 15k orbs or slightly more

@little berry check pinned messages too for info

oka thanks

[inland trail]

No NSD this weekend?

[little berry]

whats NSD

[surreal galleon]

I'd guess nemesis survival dungeon

[inland trail]

Yeah, usually comes at the beginning of the month

[fleet oriole]

how far do ya think i can get with a 115 ruby with 3 x speed

[little berry]

i have 5 nodes left on rag

[tired ginkgo]

finally that pic is pinned 😄

[stoic path]

So no nemesis dungeon? 🤔 I just used elementals to rank some weak nemesis monsters I had

Seems usually it's after cells week, no?

[inland trail]

Usually it's in either the first or second week of the month
Well, RIP my ragnarok

[kind crane]

I’d assume it’ll be next week

[inland trail]

[jagged lake]

How to get ragnarok and what’s a nemesis monster

[tired ginkgo]

u can get raggy via heroic dungeons and a nemesis monster is a a very very good monster ps u need to pay for them

[inland trail]

Nemesis monsters are (some of) the best monsters in the game
But for newer spenders it's much better to invest in WMs, buy and get one nemesis in each element and rank them with the elemental cells they get form WMs

[verbal agate]

Are we ever getting nemesis dungeon back?

[little berry]

Ones where we get cells, probably not. The new Nemesis dungeons with a diamond relic at the end, most likely.

[brittle hemlock]

Last December we were told "Not for a long time, now is the time of the Warmasters! 😉 " in a Facebook reply section regarding nemesis cell dungeons.

[little berry]

Oof

[scenic mountain]

when can i get a nemesis monster?

without having to make it to room 60

[little berry]

You can buy nemesis cell chests. Small chests are $7 while larger chests are $50. Only other way is making it to room 90 on the cave. 🤷

[scenic mountain]

so how much do small chests have?

[little berry]

It could be 50 cells of any nemesis monster variant or any other legendary monster cells.

Larger chests are basically 8 smaller chests I believe.

[scenic mountain]

ok

so theres no medium chest

with 100?

[little berry]

No

[scenic mountain]

there is?

[little berry]

nope.

its either small or large

[scenic mountain]

so u need 14 dollars for 1 nemesis

[little berry]

if your lucky

you could buy 5 $7 chests and not get any nemesis cells

its all just a gamble

[scenic mountain]

social point spelled discharger wrong

[little berry]

cool

[scenic mountain]

so ur saying the best way is to get to 90 to get nemesis

[little berry]

either way is gambling. both ways succ.

[scenic mountain]

so nemesis monsters are the hardest to get??

[little berry]

i brought the chests for my nemesis monsters.

in a sense yeah.

[winter river]

The definition of OP

[stoic path]

Maybe need to use dunn ra with somebody with anticipation to capture the move after high pressure fluid

[severe junco]

is warmaster necromancer good or barbari

[twilit token]

How many heroic orb need for 1 warmaster

[tame beacon]

2300 for a rank 0 warmaster 😃

[twilit token]

Thanks

It means 100 cell right

[tame beacon]

Yes 😃

[inland trail]

ATM I'd rather go for babari, necro's AI is the definition of trash

[severe junco]

whats ai

anyways i can only go for necromancer and barbael guy

[tired ginkgo]

artifical intellingence

[severe junco]

why does that matter when your the one using the skills?

[tired ginkgo]

the ai is using them

and it is very dumb sometimes

[inland trail]

Defense exists too

[hasty dock]

Yeah, and some of us prefer to invest in monsters that are effective on both 😉 @severe junco

[severe junco]

oh

[magic thicket]

What's the level of thalassa @winter river?

[winter river]

115

[wide python]

This beautiful pictures are made by @timid hornet

[hasty dock]

Epic arts 😍

[nocturne rover]

What should I do if I have 4600 orbs and have Elvira as only WM

[severe junco]

marrienne

marianne* are you called Marianne van es in reddit?

lol nvm

you have it as your name

[inland trail]

John you do realize that these pics are the dungeons from the game with fancy letters, right?

But still looks nice

[severe junco]

best warmaster for offense?

[inland trail]

Thalassa

Although ragnarok can sometimes be more useful, depends on the opponents

[severe junco]

okay soo whats best again dark attackers like phal ax

warmaster *

btw people call thallasa mom of genral theyts cuz of that i was if she drains stamina too

[inland trail]

No, that has something to do with the ML lore
Best dark attacker and a top 3 monster in the game is the light sammy, necro can be used as an attacker, barbatos, helgudin and muerte are very good as well

[severe junco]

another reason for me to carry on with necromancer journey

[inland trail]

He's like the worst WM now though

[hasty dock]

@inland trail yes I do, but doesn't stop them from being Epic 😁

[little berry]

What move does Thalassa learn at r1?

[surreal galleon]

I think I've seen people get the aoe mega freeze for r1

I don't have her myself so I wouldn't know for sure

[tired ginkgo]

aoe mega freeze @little berry

[honest tundra]

What wm should i go for next i have remntar and elvira already

[tired ginkgo]

idk what wm do u really need

[honest tundra]

I can go for barbael, thalasa, the life one and necromancer

Um idk bout that

[tired ginkgo]

maybe thalassa

[little berry]

Ragnarok is a decent wm r0

Cherry is a decent TS holder at r0

Babari could work with Remntar (Skill mirror + Dmg Mirror)

[tired ginkgo]

and try to get her r1 thats when she gets op

[honest tundra]

Is it possible to get babari with r1 voltaik r2 francine frank r2 neobuki?

[little berry]

Should be.

[honest tundra]

Ummm what about thalassa

I have r2 cryotan

R1 frostwrath and r1 lord atlantis and r1 blob

Which one easier?

[little berry]

I dunno I haven't done either yet

[tired ginkgo]

i got him with r1 voltaik r3 neo r3 francine or r2 dont remember her rank

[honest tundra]

Ok

[little berry]

Yeah you should be fine with that team. I got him using R1 Uria’s Pet, R1 Uria’s BG, and R2 Francine so it’s definitely pretty easy.

[tired ginkgo]

yep

at the mommy node at floor 2 its kinda tricky

[dusty crystal]

At what rank does Ragnarok get his revive?

[little berry]

R3 I believe

[little berry]

Correct.

[honest tundra]

who's better barbael or babari

[magic thicket]

Oof

Both trash

Until ranked

Barbael is better tbh

🙂

[candid oasis]

babari is amazing attacker when ranked

[magic thicket]

When ranked

[honest tundra]

umm

what about ranked barbael?

could i get him with r2 cain, r2 sunblast and r3 marquis

[magic thicket]

Yea

Pretty easy

[crystal vigil]

Why do you want to rank barbael when most other warmasters are better

[candid oasis]

yeah

[hasty dock]

I kinda like Babari more than Barbael

A better trait, and better value at low rank

[ember plume]

I agree with you

[mortal bay]

Barbael worst warmaster

[ember plume]

^

[frozen crane]

can r3 faraday solo rag's floor 3

[ember plume]

Definitely not

[hasty dock]

What can u bring to support Faraday @frozen crane?

[frozen crane]

nothing else

seems like im heavily unprepared for rag's dungeon

might as well abandon it and go back to ranking sherezar

[gilded coyote]

Speaking of Ragnarok dungeon, massacre on floor 5 😤

[little berry]

Oof

Also yeah I’d take Babari over Barbael for sure.

[inland trail]

Same at higher ranks

[nocturne rover]

I got Elvira as only WM. Who should I get next? I have 4600 orbs

[serene meteor]

zahra

jk

ragnarok or babari

[nocturne rover]

Aight Imma try Raggy

Wish me luck.

[little berry]

Rag best unranked WM imo.

You do have enough for two unranked Warmasters though, (or 100 orbs away from a rank 1 Warmaster) so you have a lot of options

[gilded coyote]

Ragnarok R1 is highly recommended

Phenomenal turn transfer

[inland trail]

Actually with 4600 you can get 2 lv 100 WMs (you will end up with 0 orbs)
And definitely not babari, he's trash at lower ranks and not even that great at higher ranks

[gilded coyote]

Babari is the best thunder monster at 120

Any thought otherwise is blemishing your own game knowledge reputation

[inland trail]

I could say the same for the ones who say he's better than faraday

[gilded coyote]

Cute 🤷

[nocturne rover]

Just realized I only have Talika r1 and Seargent hull head for nature

Rip think I can beat it with a filler?

[little berry]

Oof

[tired ginkgo]

no

u need an attacker

[nocturne rover]

Would Kiridar be good?

[tired ginkgo]

maybe

[nocturne rover]

I've got 120 gems

[tired ginkgo]

but they have

dmg mirror

100%

[inland trail]

I beat that floor with a 130 laomu with VI ts, 110 ophi with VII speed and 115 pyro with VIII ts

And only had relics on ophi because E war

[hasty dock]

I don't even remember what I beat it with, and Nature is my weakest 😂

[little berry]

Global intensifies

[hasty dock]

Please, not Discord too !!!

[inland trail]

Hecc

[dreamy rock]

Maybe we should just make a Channel called Global chat

[inland trail]

Insert weSmart emote because booli mods non allow us to use them

[little berry]

Dun dun dunnnn

5th Warmaster

Collected

[little berry]

That's a lot of elementium

[gilded coyote]

That's not a lot of gems

[tired ginkgo]

kramp

why zahra

😂 😂

[little berry]

Cause I'm collecting all the warmasters.

[gilded coyote]

Why Zahra 😂 😂 you asking that is the funnier aspect

[little berry]

Oof

[tame beacon]

I’m kinda tempted to get them all too (except maybe Barbael )

Ranking takes forever and I’m so impatient

[tired ginkgo]

[gilded coyote]

120 Ragnarok, 110 Elvira, 115 Gortak and then 120 Zahra, pumped

[dreamy rock]

Heck

Krampus is a bad influence

[gilded coyote]

2 Ranks on Ragnarok, one for Elvira, then I don't have Gortak and Zahra so mucho orbs

[sand coral]

Ehhh most of them really aren't worthwhile if you're going to keep them at 100. You're much better off investing in a few and ranking them to unlock their full potential

[tame beacon]

I could get R1 Remntar, Elvira or Sherezar, or just get Zahra, Gortak, Babari, Necromaner or Thalassa. The second option sounds more exciting. But I know the first is more practical

[sand coral]

Elvira is likely fine at 100, I wouldn't bother going to 105 unless you plan to keep going in the future

if you don't have Ragnarok, you should get him

[gilded coyote]

that 110 skill is lovely, super want it, she's always been such a liability to me at R0 and R1

Ragnarok 😍

[tame beacon]

Yeh Rag is at R1, already invested in him a bit. Probably won’t take Elvira far 😄

[gilded coyote]

Stupid SC

[sand coral]

Sherezar to 110 is a great option too

[tired ginkgo]

hehehe

elvira is great

[tame beacon]

I’m waiting to get Sherezar at R2 and hoping another R3 magic monster falls into my lap by then

[sand coral]

good plan

[gilded coyote]

Great TS monster

not much of a monster I guess, like most nowadays, but humanoid undead, discord gender confused individual

[dreamy rock]

Waits for Tyrael to highlight himself as great with Elvira

[gilded coyote]

Those discussion cringes and weeps gently

[tired ginkgo]

"-"

[tame beacon]

[severe junco]

can i get elvira with oghma

only?

[sand coral]

Definitely not

[tired ginkgo]

is that a joke

[severe junco]

thats the only monster i have

[tired ginkgo]

i barely got her with bella baal grumpex and taiga

[severe junco]

and fyi i got him for £10

[tired ginkgo]

[dreamy rock]

Heck

[tired ginkgo]

the light pack

[severe junco]

yeh

😭

[dreamy rock]

Wasting $10 on Oghma

[tired ginkgo]

it wasnt on purpose

[severe junco]

i could have gotten dun ra

😭

[tired ginkgo]

it says random light monster

[severe junco]

i just dident have any other pack

[tired ginkgo]

dunn ra is dark element buddy

[severe junco]

there werent any

forget elvira

[tired ginkgo]

those are

daily packs

[severe junco]

im talking about good monsters

[clear shore]

:/

[dreamy rock]

Breed Arch Knight

[severe junco]

you see im a f2p at heart

[dreamy rock]

And Hasai

[severe junco]

dnt have esthireal

[dreamy rock]

Get Ethsirel then

[severe junco]

kk after i breed francis and armole

[clear shore]

He is not breedable, unlike goldcore

You can get cells for him tho in dungeons

[severe junco]

lol forgot

im trying to get firelequien aftr

[dreamy rock]

Breed Arch Knight and Hasai
Rank them to rank 1
And then use them on Elvira dungeon

[severe junco]

cuz 305 gold production is money on trees

[frosty remnant]

:c

Tbh though warmasters should probably already come with 3 slots, seeing as getting them is a long and hard process enough (the hard part being the battles)

Either way though, I’m glad to have at least obtained Sherezar, once the slot unlock discount comes around I can finally say bye bye to my accuracy problems

[little berry]

Nice

And also yeah, every monster in general should come with three slots unlocked.

[gilded coyote]

Locked slots is just a terrible positive environment killing mechanic, especially for race monsters and warmasters

But I digress

[ember dew]

I finally got warmaster barbael!

WM ragnarok is coming next month once I get more orbs

[frosty remnant]

GG, gl on rag, though why Barbael first, just curious (I say this since everyone seems to immediately go for Elvira because “Evasion OP”)

[clear shore]

Rip

[magic thicket]

Hey

Can you guys suggest me a good team ragnarok floor 3? (Thunder)

I dont have good thunder monsters

[velvet spindle]

🤔

[marble torrent]

@magic thicket I have the same problema, with Viltaik, Urias bodyguard and Neobuki, but can't pass

[marble torrent]

Maybe the problem is not monster, is the runes, you need high level runes

[crystal vigil]

I used neobuki(attacker), volray, Francine and beat last node first try

[fiery skiff]

Im 10 nodes away on floor 3 and I use Faraday neo and francine

[little berry]

Does sherry become good at rank 2 or 3?

[tame beacon]

Rank 2 is when he gets his AOE CDA move, so becomes a denier 😃

[little berry]

Sweet I'm going work towards that after I get ragnarok

[kind crane]

He’s not fast enough to be a denier at r2 imo. I’d still leave him as a support

[mossy sorrel]

Use thalassa instead she is awesome at r1

[stoic path]

Which is the best ragnarok moves? Rank 3... should I add ressurection?

[clear shore]

Go for it

[violet violet]

Should I tune my elvria like or or

Or 1 Team strength and 2 team speed

[tired ginkgo]

i run on mine

[nocturne rover]

Ragnorak and Thalassa or Thalassa r1?

[little berry]

Probably best to do both for now and save for R1 Thalassa. Or vise versa, I mean either way you’d be able to get both within a reasonable time.

[tired ginkgo]

both

[inland trail]

Yeah both

[magic thicket]

Can you guys suggest me a good team ragnarok floor 3? (Thunder)

I don't have neoboki

[kind crane]

Faraday, faraday, babari

[tired ginkgo]

what monsters do u have

[magic thicket]

I am f2p so pls suggest

[misty elm]

😂

[magic thicket]

All my thunder monsters are trash

I am confident

[kind crane]

Guess that means no to my team

[tired ginkgo]

well then dont do the floor

[magic thicket]

😀

[misty elm]

Luckily the dungeons themselves are easy

[magic thicket]

I want turn transfer skill

Just suggest me a good thunder team?

Pls

[tired ginkgo]

u wont be able to beat the last node

[misty elm]

Highly recommned that skill 👍

[kind crane]

Don’t poop on his happiness Ty

[magic thicket]

At least suggest me one

Team

I am expert in ranking up

I have r2 gorg

[tired ginkgo]

uhh

this doesnt make u an expert in ranking

[magic thicket]

Oof

Will you help me?

[tired ginkgo]

u said ur thunder monsters are trash

[magic thicket]

If not then...

[tired ginkgo]

i dont even know ur monsters

how can i help then

[magic thicket]

I have voltaik Griffin ROFL tempest

Exo skeel

Thorder

[tired ginkgo]

voltaik useless

[magic thicket]

Yeah

[tired ginkgo]

there

rofl can work

[river aspen]

Yea

[magic thicket]

Griffin and exo can be helpful

[river aspen]

Voltaik is 🙁🙁🙁

[magic thicket]

I can buy monsters

[tired ginkgo]

id take tempest over griffin

[magic thicket]

Yntec ?

I will buy his cells

Sparkling mantis?

[kind crane]

Volray, Exo Skeel, Tempest @magic thicket

[magic thicket]

Volray hmm

Will it work?

Volray is epic

[kind crane]

I got thalassa to 120 with 2 epics and a UC sooooo

[magic thicket]

😅

[tired ginkgo]

exactly

[magic thicket]

Really?

[kind crane]

Yep

[serene meteor]

wait what

give

[magic thicket]

Which were they?

What runes ?

[fleet oriole]

think i can get ragnarok

with Eggknock Avaast and koralle

[magic thicket]

@kind crane

[tired ginkgo]

lol

[kind crane]

Ledo, Nautilus, Sealion

[magic thicket]

What runes?

[tired ginkgo]

u need some per buddy

[magic thicket]

Ledo oof

[kind crane]

9/10s

[magic thicket]

Wow

P2w?

[kind crane]

Few 8s

[magic thicket]

Or f2p?

[kind crane]

Neither

[magic thicket]

Wdym?

[serene meteor]

just get nemesises lmao

[tired ginkgo]

f2w kek

[magic thicket]

How did you get X runes ?

Oof

I suck in runes

[kind crane]

Crafting

[serene meteor]

You get 40m lvl 1 runes

and wait an year

lul

[kind crane]

I’m not p2w by far lol. But have spent enough to not be classed as f2p

[magic thicket]

Ohh

So you are p2p

[kind crane]

Nah I’d class myself as a lazy f2p

[serene meteor]

free to pay

[inland trail]

I'm a lazy f2p (free to play)

[silver tulip]

for ragnarok floor 1, i have primi r1, alpha, and petro loa

how well will that do?

[white temple]

That should be an easy floor right?

[silver tulip]

is it?

i only have seven more nodes left

i have r1 warrior, r1 burrito, and r1 primi and musu for floor two

[unkempt holly]

Floor 1 shouldn't be an issue for you as long as you got level 4+ runes

Floor 2 can be a problem, some you got no denier, a possessor will be great. No baba yaga?

[silver tulip]

nope

i got through gortak dungeon with that team..

@unkempt holly

whats the problem that ill run into

would ranking up koralle help?

[unkempt holly]

Last node is rag (all speed), gortak with 2 str and 1 sp and hiroim with rainbow.

I don't see your team beating this tbh, but try it out

Hiroim can taunt and gortak is strong enough to ohko your monsters most likely

[silver tulip]

oof

will koralle help?

[unkempt holly]

Can make it better, rest depends on your luck with rag's SC, can't guarantee tho

Mountezuma or baba yaga can make your life easier a lot

[silver tulip]

ok

i got 45 mountezuma so ill just start requesting him

i may use 114 earth cells to rank him up

[unkempt holly]

If you are building from scratch anyway, work towards baba yaga tbh, till then keep trying with your current team, you might get lucky with rng

[silver tulip]

i dont have any baba yaga cells 😦

and even if i have a denier, im not looking forward to re-runing my team to beat the last node

[unkempt holly]

I see, play around with current set then and Mountezuma as last resort, just that this frog becomes useless as you improve, so wasting those earth elementals seems a waste

[frozen crane]

r2 atum r3 koralle and r1 burotgor should work for rag's floor 2, right?

[ember dew]

How should I approach last node of ragnarok floor 2? Using a R2 koralle R1 burtogor and R1 General atum

Team speed and life on atum

2 str, 1 speed on burotgor

Full life on koralle

Should I try to get lucky with burotgor, or should I go for win using mega taunt on koralle?

[little berry]

well in my case if i could only use those 3 monsters i would probably make it so all your monsters will go after ragna with enough dmg on burotgor and atum to take down either ragnarok or gortak while koralle goes megataunt and work from there after round 1. probably wont work on 1st attempt but should work eventually with some good rng. Baba yaga with 2 oblations staff and remove pos would make that node a lot easier at first turn :/

[little berry]

1 ts 2 strength on both burre and atum should be enough for all your guys to go in speed and have enough dmg, splitting up the dmg will also not kill any of your monsters on the dmg return that will most likely happen. if you have vitality banner and healing mask you will also get that life back.

[scenic mountain]

is nemesis chest worth it?

[hasty dock]

Depends on how badly u need them

[lean latch]

if youre have a lot of money.. buy big chest only.. try 2 times big chest and you will smile after that..

[fiery skiff]

I have all 3 Sammy's, Faraday obscure and r2 xiron the quartz. Honestly I'm satisfied with those nemesis. I'm wondering if I should go for anyone else and if so who?

[stone python]

Rank up sammy

[fiery skiff]

Well yeah eventually

[unkempt holly]

Warthak! And ruby

[fiery skiff]

If I can get the 200 from nemesis dungeons then I got myself a r1 rag

And then hopefully I can get it to r2. I have couple r3 fires

[little berry]

nice times ahead, gl on the 200 node 😃

[fiery skiff]

Thank you and I got it. Facing this final node much much easier than the all earth element. That one took me forever

[frozen zodiac]

Gosh that last earth node was brutal even for Brutalis boy o boy this dude cost me 15 gems in rune swapping he better be worth it

[ember plume]

@frozen zodiac he is more than worth it

[frozen zodiac]

I ain’t usin him tho

[inland trail]

[fiery skiff]

@frozen zodiac ikr. I was extremely lucky I had that node during when runes we're for gold. Otherwise I'd have been stuck on that node for a pretty long time.

[frozen zodiac]

Indubitably

[fiery skiff]

7 more. Do y'all think it's worth spending all elementium and thunder cells

[tired ginkgo]

is that the discharguer

[fiery skiff]

Obscure

[tired ginkgo]

🤔

do u have any other nemesis?

[fiery skiff]

Not thunder ones

But yes

But atm Faraday the one I use the most my main attacker overall

I have 115 PC and 110 quartz

[tired ginkgo]

i think its worth

with that faraday and other two r2 thunder monsters u should try to get raggy r2

[velvet mirage]

Buying the chests worth it?

[orchid hamlet]

wanna ask, when our enemy is dunn ra and elvira, sherezar's great dispel only remove dunn ra's effect..?? thats true or a bug..??

[tired ginkgo]

great dispel should remove everyones effects

but dunn ra has mega taunt

so she attracted the skill

[fiery skiff]

That's messed up. They put stun on all monsters in nemesis dungeons then the other team has the war master immune to stun.

Rip

[unkempt holly]

Ya you gotta take warthak and talos for that node

[little berry]

Talos will get stunned too for some reason.

[fleet oriole]

I’m doing good for what I have tbh

[neon umbra]

is it worth buying one nemesis superchest? if so who should i buy

[tired ginkgo]

ruby or plague carrier

[little berry]

Sammy chest is good since all 3 variants are usable.

Xiron you really need to be lucky to land enough to craft ruby

Yeah.

Sammy, Faraday, and Warthak chests are probably the safest, all three are great too.

[fleet oriole]

faraday's a bit outclassed nowadays tho tbh

[little berry]

How so?

[fleet oriole]

wrong thing

there's just a lot more anticipation monsters

im not saying faraday is bad at all

because he isnt

just 50$ for him isnt worth it IMO

since marquis can do his job better from where im stood

[little berry]

He doesn’t really outclass him though. Especially when they’re both in different elements and books. Flambé is just more accessible for most. You could make the case that Ruby isn’t worth 50$ either using that logic. Especially considering you might not even get Ruby with the 50$.

[fleet oriole]

xiron chest isnt worth it imo either

i have ruby and as good as she is you have a 50% chance of even getting a xiron. let alone getting the good one

[inland trail]

There are more anticipators, yes
But rag is the only one who's better than faraday, marquis has a few flaws faraday doesn't

[fleet oriole]

both of them being reachable as a f2p

[inland trail]

As Smag said, warthak/sammy/faraday chests are the safest
I'll just add another pretty sasfe chest - llum
Preferably you want the magic one, but every variant is OP in it's own way

[fleet oriole]

i swear when Llum came out she's been slept on and now ever team needs per she's good

[inland trail]

I feel like llum is the most underrated monster in the game
In my eyes she's the 3rd best nemesis, bulwark+relic slots+incredible support skills and the ability to deal a good aboun of damage (and deny for the magic one)

[fleet oriole]

what's her relics?

[inland trail]

Armor/essence

[fleet oriole]

damn

who's the best for nemesis dungeons if i already have a ruby

only nemesis i have is a ruby and so far on this dungeon i've gotten 200 orbs just with her

but i was thinking getting like warthak since i believe he has per?

but now you've said Llum she's popped into my mind and she can deal with elvira really nicely in light wars

[inland trail]

For the nemesis dungeon I do it with llum, warthak, nadiel and sammy (don't have ruby and can't get her since I got them from the cell dungeons and stuck at 75)
War wise, llum destroys almost any other top light monster

[fleet oriole]

hmm

nadiel has great aoe's right?

[inland trail]

Yeah, aoe total damage reduction, aoe guard down, aoe ignition+negative healing and aoe ignition+burn+negative healing

[fleet oriole]

yeah thought so

im inbetween llum and sammy atm

[inland trail]

And an aoe heal+remove negative

Sammy is obviously better there, still arguably the best monsters in the game
Very versitile, and by far the best support

[fleet oriole]

and he could help me get necro

issue is, idk how easily i'd get his tt skill

[inland trail]

Unless you want necro for dark cells to rank sammy, I'd get other WMs

[fleet oriole]

i already have