monster-discussion

[echo sundial]

Ingvars Bodyguard gives metal protection 😂😂

[azure rose]

@echo sundial Should I buy him?

[echo sundial]

He isn’t good at all 😂

Idk he seems quite niche for this dungeon tho

Ask someone else’s opinion I’m not that good at the game

[little berry]

Ingvar's BG is pretty forgetful

I think he has a AoE bleed, Metal Protection + Skill Mirror

Idk what else

I'm not home so I can't look up his skills

[winged fox]

AoE means all right

Well the only good thing I him is skill mirror

Here I will show you his moves

[fleet oriole]

i run his aoe metal protection + skill mirror + metal hater + blinding axe + axe throw

as i only used him for the elvira dungeon and giving a weak monster skill mirror means they attack a different one rather than going for the KO

e.g 80k hp ingvars bg gets attacked over 33k hp demise with skill mirror

and i had taiga so i used his camouflage ability + skill mirror on demise so neither of them ever got attacked unless i didnt have skill mirror or camouflauge on or it was an aoe

[azure rose]

I'd have to rank him up sadly

1.1k War coins likely won't cover it

[stable siren]

Close

Go extract some goldcores and ya got it

[azure rose]

Well I can cover with some Light cells.

Since I have around 62 light cells

[winged fox]

Was I helpful

[little berry]

what are the monsters on last node of ragarnock, floor two

[dreamy rock]

Ragnarok Gortak and Hiroim

[little berry]

oh

that seems hard

[brittle hemlock]

@little berry it really is

[little berry]

do u think a R3 balor, rank2 burg and a R3 korraile can take it?

[real wasp]

Yeah man easy

[little berry]

okay thanks

[unkempt holly]

Floor 4 for ragnarok is light monsters right? Or is it another element?

[brittle hemlock]

@unkempt holly fire

[little berry]

what runes should i put on base talos thats 110? im thinking but idk

[little berry]

why stamina

Cause I'm running Talos Is The Sun which costs 202 stamina I believe.

Maybe I should swap the skills around?

[tall cedar]

3 speed stamina mutants

[unkempt holly]

Ah fire,ok thx isa

[misty elm]

I have 460 Earth cells. Should I use 290 to rank up Warthak the Mountainsplitter (he's rank 2 right now)?

[little berry]

@misty elm Yas

[fleet oriole]

Now that i have elvira what should i get next

Remntar 100 or 105
Sherezar 105 --> 110
Necro 100 or 105
Thalassa 100 or 105
Ragnarok 100 or 105

[tulip sapphire]

Ragnorock

[fleet oriole]

why do people like Ragnarok

like what makes him good lol

[tulip sapphire]

@fleet oriole ability

[little berry]

his SC

[fleet oriole]

the random just feels a bit risky

[little berry]

exactly

[tulip sapphire]

True vison and anticipation bruhhhh

[little berry]

this one too

[tulip sapphire]

@little berry what

[little berry]

what?

[fleet oriole]

wait

is it just true vision for himself or for his team o.o

[little berry]

just for himself

[tulip sapphire]

And the move backdoor intrusion or some like that it remove 75% of life

[fleet oriole]

backdoor intrusion is for glitch

deaths door is the -75% life

[tulip sapphire]

Yea death door

Ik it was something with door in it😂

[fleet oriole]

hmm

whats his second floor element

[tulip sapphire]

Earth

[fleet oriole]

oof

[tulip sapphire]

I think

[little berry]

Ragnarok floor requirements:
Floor 1: Any Nature, grants 40 cells, costs 800 orbs
Floor 2: Any Earth (Rank 1), grants 60 cells, costs 1500 orbs
Floor 3: Any Thunder (Rank 2), grants 120 cells, costs 2400 orbs
Floor 4: Any Fire (Rank 3), grants 150 cells. costs 3500 orbs
Floor 5: Any Metal (Ranik 4), grants 290 cells, costs 4800 orbs
Floor 6: Any Magic (Rank 5), grants 1100 cells, costs 6750 orbs

[fleet oriole]

hmm

think i could do floor 2 with Koralle R3, Sting Westclaw R1 & eggknock r2

[stoic path]

If I need 5 rank magic for floor 6 , which is better: a. Buy magic general bg and rank up with cells from team shop. b. Wait for race with magic and rank up with elementals. C. Rank up dungeon master with elementals ?

Actually, the best way to get rank 5 magic?

[serene meteor]

C or A

[little berry]

buy cells

from ts

[brittle hemlock]

@little berry i wouldnt run talos is the sun. not worth it

just use ingenica 🤷

[inland trail]

Ingenica can't possess though

[brittle hemlock]

@inland trail true, true

[little berry]

I don't have Ingenica

:(

[stoic path]

I just decided to use single move for talos with trait disable. Using him with

Instead of one small extra turn attack

[solemn brook]

guys could you use the same WARMASTER in the third dungeon?

[stable siren]

No

[solemn brook]

aw man, thanks

[stable siren]

Np

You must use ranked monsters

[lusty shell]

only for Rag, the others would be one rank short of their own

[solemn brook]

so

[stable siren]

And your wm will be down two ranks all the time

Iirc

[solemn brook]

who chould I equip my level 8 speed rune then?

[stable siren]

@lusty shell wait how can rag go into his own dungeon if he had legendary elements

[little berry]

what would be a rune set for warmaster Rag, seen many people running him different ways

[stable siren]

Has

[solemn brook]

Rainbow Build

[little berry]

ok

[lusty shell]

i meant as using other Wms in Rag's dungeon

[stable siren]

A h

Understandable

[solemn brook]

Who should I put my lv8 speed rune on

[stable siren]

A denier

Idk

[little berry]

treezard

[stable siren]

Who do you have

[solemn brook]

WM Thelessa

And Necromancer

[stable siren]

Thalassa

If those are the only two options

[solemn brook]

but I'm not going to use her yet

I need her to at least level 105 then I will

[stable siren]

Then don't

[solemn brook]

I need it on my theyts

why? Because I need her to pass D3 for Thelessa

[stable siren]

Uh

If you don't want to use her

Don't give her lvl 8 runes?

[solemn brook]

I know

[stable siren]

insert a big YET here

[little berry]

What skills should I run on him?

[red birch]

Could anyone give me a tip on how to get past the second level of Elvira’s dungeon? I’m on the last battle and can’t seem to get past. Getting whipped as a matter of fact.

[dreamy rock]

I beat it with Taiga Layth and Kaori ya noob

[little berry]

Well, Gakora should go first and Applie Evasion to all allies, then who goes? I'd assume HP then Sir Oven Dude

[dreamy rock]

That team looks really strong

What's got you stuck on that node?

[red birch]

Yes. Evasion first. Then Bella feel the hit to remove all of the positive effects

After that I get one attack

And they one shot me

The whole team

[red birch]

Just beat it. My biggest problem was all of the misses. Ridiculous. 😒

[little berry]

On another episode of unneccesary cell extracting...

[little berry]

ah the last elvria node took me months

when i got a ranked 1 al canine i beat it under 5 minutes lol

get the two at the back first

huge damage dealers

[celest raven]

Which monsters u hv used to beat?? @little berry

[little berry]

i used demise to remove the positve effects, ranked arch knight as attacker and al canine for activating cool downs

[red birch]

Al Canine would have been a nice addition. I only have him at level one

[honest tundra]

Can someone help me

I can't beat it

This is the last battle until I get Elvira

[fickle acorn]

I recommend you swap runes.

[honest tundra]

To what?

[kind crane]

Single speed on demise

[little berry]

demise doesnt need str

[kind crane]

Ts on cloud

[chilly ridge]

are my Runes wrong? I'm having the same problem CopoNova was having 🤔

(Remove pos effects in first turn, and Taiga attacks once before the whole team is wiped out)

[little berry]

what other light monsters u have ranked

[chilly ridge]

Cloud, that's it 😥

[kind crane]

Any epics?

[little berry]

bella baal removes positive effects right

and rocigon has a move which turn transfers?

bella baal goes first (removes invasion) then rocigon and turn transfer to ur attacker which is tiaga and he should atleast get 1 monster.

tip go for the 2 at the back

biggest threat

i used al canine which makes it so much easier

activates cool downs and the battle is yours

[kind crane]

Oh god invasion

[chilly ridge]

No epics. And thanks! I tried swapping Runes so Bella goes first (ouch) but no luck so far because even after Taiga goes, they all get wiped out

I might have to wait until next rotation if I need Al Canine (have him, just not at r1)

[little berry]

ye get him to rank 1 trust

this is what i used - Demise for positive effect removal (goes first and removes invasion), then al canine goes and activates cool downs and i also had arch knight as my attacker

remember when activating cool downs take out the sir oven guy cause he has a 1 Cd move

[chilly ridge]

Got it! Thank you so much for the tips!! 🙂

[little berry]

np and good luck

it took me 2 months to get elvria and when i got ranked al canine i beat it in 5 minutes lol

[chilly ridge]

Oh snap!!! Good to know! I'll definitely save my gems for al cells then! 👍👍😊

[little berry]

hes a great monster overall so its worth the gems

[echo sundial]

@chilly ridge I used Ingvars BG R1, Taiga R1, Demise R1

Ingvars BG goes first apply skill mirror to taiga, all enemies go, I live. Demise tt to taiga but since he has skill mirror demise gets another turn (remove neg with light from within or remove there pos with endless celebration) then taiga can one hit Holters and that set me up for the W

[signal mortar]

I have 2400 orbs, is it worth spending to get Elvira to r4 from r3 or wait to get Sherezar or Barbeal to r1?

[little berry]

get sherezar

and if u want to get him r2

[signal mortar]

I was leaning that way

[chilly ridge]

thank you #3slots! I'll keep that In mind for next time - if I see a Demise sale I might get her!

[signal mortar]

Dont see huge improvement in Elvira from r3 to r4 but a leveled up Sherezar looks strong

[little berry]

Hello someone knows maybe how many discounts for orbs is in 1 day?

Or it is random maybe?

I saw today 2

[crystal vigil]

2 every day

[little berry]

Ahh ok. Thank u😀

[violet violet]

Can you use elemental cells on nemesis or Dunn Ra or cain

To rank up

[little berry]

Yes

[violet violet]

Even nemesis

[little berry]

Yes

Yesterday I ranked Samael🙂

[violet violet]

Nice

[little berry]

To 105 lv 😂

[violet violet]

I have 330 elementium

[little berry]

Noice 💪

[violet violet]

335 to be exact

Do you need a Sammy or is a warmaster necromancer better?

In the long run

Or like what’s the best rank 3 war master

[little berry]

To hard question for me. I say pass😬

[violet violet]

If I am not willing to buy a nemesis

Should I just use my elemental on monsters like dunn Ra and cain

Or the new grass monster

[little berry]

If u will not buy Nemesis I think u should use your elementium and elemential on best monsters

[stable siren]

@violet violet dunn ra

[hasty dock]

Cain is almost a Nemesis though 🤔

Stats at par with them, and the ability to end matches all by himself

[frozen zodiac]

Dunn Ra is almost a nemesis because skill group 4 and tough trait+ status caster

[inland trail]

Not really, SG4 ≠ nemesis

[hasty dock]

Anybody who thinks a skill group 4 like that makes Dunn Ra equivalent to a Nemesis clearly has little idea of how much Nemeses and Warmasters improve with their SG4 skills

@violet violet WM Necromancer's A.i is horrible atm, so unless they improve it, I'd say Sammy is a better choice. As much as I used to be fond of Necromancer, I've gone back to using Sammy for wars again

[tame abyss]

dunn ras trait makes him as good as some warmasters imo

[mortal bay]

She's better than Barbael

[inland trail]

Barbael kinda succ though
I'd go as far saying she's better than barbael and zahra, althoguh zahra is a very underrated monster

[tame abyss]

ok my dudes its her

[little berry]

What skills should I run on a supportive Sammy FS? He's 115

right now he has Pain Scourge Unholy Resurrect Samael Soldier and Smallpox Epidemy im not sure what to replace with Pestilence and Death Moratorium

[inland trail]

Death moratorium replaces smallpox epidemy
You can replace samael soldier with pestilence depending on the situation

[little berry]

ok thanks you Andrej ^-^

[solemn brook]

hey guys I have a IQ question

I have WM Thalassa

I need her at R1

but I need to complete D3

But what If I get 100 cells of her in D3

could I craft her again?!

[lusty shell]

You can't craft duplicate wms anymore

[hasty dock]

Besides, what good will crafting a duplicate do? U can't use elementium or elemental cells on WMs

[kind crane]

And Thalassa is only good at r3

[eager trench]

No?

She'll still be good at lower ranks

Her AoE Mega is unlocked at rank 1

[hasty dock]

Agreed

She's reasonably good at lvl 100 too

[eager trench]

yeah

but if you want a denier Sherezar is probably better long term. he's better ranked

[hasty dock]

Yes, indeed. Sherezar has better base speed, and no chance of missing

Or getting his denials resisted for that matter

[eager trench]

His status caster is quite bad though. CDA protection is good, but nowhere near AoE evasion or Skill Mirror or other WM status casts.

[inland trail]

Thalassa>>>>sherry though

[eager trench]

no

[inland trail]

Yes

[crystal vigil]

Sherezar is better than thalassa at 100, 110, maybe maybe 115

At other ranks thalassa is better

[eager trench]

Sherezar is faster

[inland trail]

Base speed does not matter

[crystal vigil]

Doesn't matter

Rune guardian

[inland trail]

When will people realize that...

[crystal vigil]

Everything from 3520 to 3575 is literally the same

[inland trail]

^

[eager trench]

Does it work for defense teams as well?

[crystal vigil]

And so is everything between 3300 and 3520

It doesn't work for defense

[eager trench]

huh

[crystal vigil]

It only works for offense

Attacking thalassa with 5 ts can outspeed defending sherezar with 6 ts with rune guardian

[eager trench]

Even then. Sherezar is still better. True vision is amazing, and his denial moves are very good. He can apply torture effects too

[inland trail]

[eager trench]

just do facepalm emotes

thats a very convincing argument

[inland trail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOq0Wk-VwPI

Here's an example of how broken thalassa can be

[eager trench]

Sherezar can do that too you know

[inland trail]

Not really

What if he lands the freeze? Then you'll lose (monsters)

[eager trench]

he counters Elvita as well

[inland trail]

Not countering elvira

It's about a lv 4 light spirit being used and surviving

[eager trench]

He has true vision, he'll always land his effects

[inland trail]

Yeah, but which one?

[eager trench]

CDA

[inland trail]

If he lands the freeze (in this situations) you're dead

[lusty ruin]

Thalassa can disable trait. That is very powerful. Sherezar can't.

[inland trail]

Also 0 CD skills exist

[eager trench]

You're not going to be using lv4 light spirits. You're going to be using other WMs or nemesises

[crystal vigil]

Sherezar can't do anything against dunn ra+elvira

[eager trench]

ig

[inland trail]

Well I didn't use light spirit, but I did use treezard @eager trench

[eager trench]

You get what i mean

[strong bison]

@inland trail it was so long ago

👀

[inland trail]

Still waiting for more opportunities to pull that off lol

[strong bison]

I got 15/15

[inland trail]

I got 45/45

[strong bison]

Andrej shhhhs

[crystal vigil]

Also with mutant runes existing everything is super tanky now and thalassa's freeze hater is very useful for that

[strong bison]

Aga weaker

[inland trail]

[strong bison]

My 15/15 is gooder

[eager trench]

hah

[strong bison]

Also

[eager trench]

15/15

really

[strong bison]

I got David

[eager trench]

3/15 is better

[strong bison]

[eager trench]

#badmonstersgang

[inland trail]

Well, he 15/15ed a team which is full of exclusive firepower while not bottomfeeding

[strong bison]

Yop

Me is so proud i did that

❤

Next goal is 3/15+ from dawngz

Killing taco in particular

[inland trail]

But anyway, sherezar is very good, but thalassa is still a lot better, freeze hater, trait disable, removes negative while not removing positive denies the enemy for 2 turns
She's better on offense at least, on defense both their AIs are pure garbage

[strong bison]

Agreed Andrej

AI dumb

[inland trail]

And sherry's AI isn't as dumb, although he spams rejuvenation and does great dispel in situations which benefit you
But his AI is pretty easy to manipulate, all you need to do it bring a monster who's immune to a control effect and you'll make him start with CDA 100% of the time

And if you use monsters with CDA protection, bo tai, volt/zyla and many others he won't hurt you much

[strong bison]

Yop

Ragnarok also beats him

Anticipation

👀

[inland trail]

Bo tai heccs him on both offense and defense as you can see

[strong bison]

Hmm

Andrej

[inland trail]

Aoe CDD 0 CD, aoe remove negative 0 CD

[strong bison]

I think that player was just stupid

[inland trail]

Aoe control was unreliable
If he lands possession on bo tai or freeze on nadiel they just remove negative and you're hecced

[strong bison]

Yop

[inland trail]

But bringing sherry in this situation wasn't the best choice either TBH

[strong bison]

Cda also wont work

[inland trail]

Ruby would've been a much better choice here

[strong bison]

Yeah

Probably control all

[inland trail]

Yeah, she has a good chance of landing control on all, although I've noticed freeze/stun are way more common than possession now, which isn't good if you're facing nadiel

[strong bison]

I am between getting Ragnarok r2+ now or getting thalassa

[inland trail]

Thalassa, rag is great even at 100

[strong bison]

I have him 105...

Thalassa bad at 100

[inland trail]

She's pretty good at 100 too

Toss some ts on her and she'll hecc everyone

[strong bison]

👀

Hmm

I'll see

[inland trail]

Back to the other topic before I go, this base was pretty hard to beat for both sherry and ruby though, which is why it only got attacked once oof
Got better relics now of course, so would be even harder

But I specifically made it to defend against sherezar, and it did

[strong bison]

Hmm

Why pyro?

[kind crane]

Reverse healing is solid

DoTs

Relic slots

[inland trail]

Trait

And Varenne's nature trash

Working on charmless ATM

[hasty dock]

Charmless is trash too

Get Zahra instead

[kind crane]

Zahra is even worse

Get O’Reilly instead

[hasty dock]

Seriously?

[strong bison]

Yop

[hasty dock]

There's no Nature monster who can protect her team more against the likes of Nadiel and Charmless than Zahra

[strong bison]

O'Reilly good

I don't have even one cell of him

[crystal vigil]

Same

[hasty dock]

Sure, he's hard to control, and can AoE stun, but otherwise he's a bit too random

[strong bison]

👀

[crystal vigil]

I have him r2 though

[strong bison]

John

[hasty dock]

Off topic, but all Quest monsters are 👌

[strong bison]

Zhara not gooder than him

[hasty dock]

Lol, why do people not like Zahra?

[misty elm]

Guys, which book page could give me Lucifire? I heard you can get cells for him

[hasty dock]

There's a chapter in Undead which is easier to complete than Exclusive

[strong bison]

Cos

[crystal vigil]

Ummm how about you just look in the library

[strong bison]

R5 is far away

[little berry]

Zahra is great, just not the first pick among the WMs

[misty elm]

I'm not in the game currently, that's why I asked 😂

[hasty dock]

WMs DO NOT NEED to be r5 to be viable

[crystal vigil]

Do you think anyone else here is in the game

[strong bison]

Zhara tho

Skills are ok +-

[hasty dock]

Seriously, why all the hate?

[strong bison]

👀

Did i say i hate her?

[misty elm]

Some people are , I'm sure of it

[strong bison]

I have no problem with her

[crystal vigil]

It would be faster to just turn on the game

[strong bison]

Just prefer O'Riley

[misty elm]

Okay, okay, forget I asked ...

[hasty dock]

She has a great Area trait, a renewable SC at 0 cd, and a 0 stamina cost AoE debuff removal- all at lvl 100

U could argue she lacks healing skills, but that can be worked around

[strong bison]

🤔

Idk

Nor think I'll get her

[tame beacon]

Undead Chapter 7 does @misty elm but its lifemelter, and you need both Sherezar and Ragnarok

[misty elm]

Ah

I have Raggy, but not Shezza

[hasty dock]

I like her a lot, and she definitely can give Nadiel a run for his money

[misty elm]

But I have enough orbs to get him

[strong bison]

Idk

[hasty dock]

Lifemelter is good to whack Nadiels in Dragon wars Sonnorcteer 😉

[strong bison]

Thalassa and Ragnarok and sherezer are better by far

[misty elm]

Any Nemesis monster is a good one to get, especially for f2p

[hasty dock]

That's ur line of argument? @strong bison

[strong bison]

Yop

[tame beacon]

As its lifemelter though, you might as well just rank Cain. You need him to get the cells anyway

[misty elm]

But I doubt that 10 cells would help me so much 😂

[strong bison]

Lazy to type

[hasty dock]

The discussion was within Nature

[strong bison]

Well

Use O'Riley

[tame beacon]

Haha true John, but thats a very low priority, and you can probably handle Nadiel with anything else if needs be 😂

[misty elm]

Yep, I only have 65/100 cells

[hasty dock]

My Dragon book sucks 😭

[strong bison]

I use montazoma

👀

[hasty dock]

I literally shudder if it comes up in wars

Pyromancers are VERY annoying to deal with

[misty elm]

Maybe I will rank Cain

[hasty dock]

Go for it !!!

A defending r2 Cain is keeping me in L3

Although his A.i is trash, but still 😂

[misty elm]

Or maybe this (ignore the runes)

Elementium is not easy to come by

[hasty dock]

Do u know I missed the 3rd L Overlords chest by 10 min? 😭😭

20 elementium lost

[misty elm]

😢

[hasty dock]

All I needed to do was spend 2 gems for speeding up Hiroim's rankup

[misty elm]

I got a Team Life rune from the second chest ... yay ...

[strong bison]

Hiroim rank up

Earth VIP?

[misty elm]

Yes

[strong bison]

I have him 115

[hasty dock]

U should know Yoav, I hardly use any normal monsters except a select few these days 😉

[misty elm]

This one

Oh, okay 😄

[strong bison]

He is

🤔

A weaker mushroom rock

[misty elm]

He's not bad

[hasty dock]

Hiroim is still very good though

[strong bison]

Ik

[misty elm]

He lacks health, though

[hasty dock]

Well, all the VIPs are, for that matter

[misty elm]

And power

[hasty dock]

Even Osur the Lame

[strong bison]

But when you have mushroom rock or warthk

[misty elm]

Mushroom rock? Korralle?

[strong bison]

Yop

[hasty dock]

Well, its not their fault... They were released a LOOOONG time ago

[strong bison]

Yop

[misty elm]

They could've updated them easily ...

[strong bison]

Just give them gold rune's

[hasty dock]

Hiroim has a 0 cd 70 dmg Special based attack to make up for his power

[strong bison]

Ik

I have him

[hasty dock]

Or give them mutants

[strong bison]

Hmm

[misty elm]

I don't know that feature

[strong bison]

Why waste duch strong rune's

[hasty dock]

Zyla has an abysmal life stat in today's ML world, but the highest speed for an attacker

[misty elm]

You sure?

[strong bison]

Nope

[hasty dock]

I have mostly lvl 6-7 mutants that aren't good anywhere else

[strong bison]

Ragnarok faster

[hasty dock]

Ragnarok is, NOT STRICTLY, an attacker

[strong bison]

👀

[hasty dock]

Zyla is the only pure attacker with a speed of 3498

[strong bison]

Tell that to yami

Neobuki

[misty elm]

Extra turn monster tend to have low life, look at Charmless (he's a new generation monster)

[strong bison]

3553

[misty elm]

Neobuki is mixed

Not a pure attacker

[strong bison]

Yep

Still

[misty elm]

I still don't know what runes should I give to her

She had 3 speed, but then I removed them for gold and now I don't know what to put back

[strong bison]

If you have Elvira

3 str

[misty elm]

I have

[strong bison]

3 str

Sooo good

[misty elm]

But I have this team as defense

[strong bison]

🤔

Hmm

I use ramnther Elvira and neobuki

[misty elm]

Sometimes it works great, sometimes it's not

[strong bison]

Attacker neo is good

You should do that I guess

[misty elm]

I was thinking

[strong bison]

Or TS

[hasty dock]

I used to use Keeper as attacker, so I can't say anything to Yami 😅

[misty elm]

Keeper for life

😂

[strong bison]

👀

How do you even use him now

[hasty dock]

Anything with a red hits hard, doesn't make him an exclusive attacker

[strong bison]

[misty elm]

Bulwark still works

[hasty dock]

For Battlegrounds, with lvl 6s 😂

The Rainbow build used to be with 8s in his glory days, now its down to 6s

Poor guy...

Xiron retired him with Ruby Explosion 😢

[strong bison]

😂

[misty elm]

He needs better life

Not even 30k on a tanky monster ...

[inland trail]

For the people who say ragnarok is an attacker, Varenne had Sarah with a lv 10 and guess what? She hit hard

[strong bison]

🤔

[kind crane]

Rag is different tbf cos of anticipation and sc. you can run him pretty much how ya like

[ember plume]

Mercurious is the fastest attacker

Its the fastest monster

And its an attacker

Good or not

[hasty dock]

Rag's most common SCs are trash

@ember plume ah yes, agreed, I forgot about her

[ember plume]

Lau lau

also

[hasty dock]

And u reminded me of Lau Lau too

[inland trail]

Lau lau

Two 75 dmg skills

[little berry]

Hey all. So I have 2 acc one. Second one I use on app called Dual App. And I have discounts for orbs in diffrent time. Someone knows maybe why ?

[tame beacon]

Different areas have different discounts, if they're set up as two different places

[little berry]

Hmm. We have teammates from USA, and I am from Poland and for longer time we had discounts in the same time. But yes maybe it is the reason 🤔

Thank u Soonorcteer🙂

[tame beacon]

They were global up until yesterday, when they went back to being region based 😃

[little berry]

Ohh good to know 😀 😀

[frozen zodiac]

Where is llum in the ranking of nemesis is she kinda midtier for a nemesis?

[polar valve]

she is just after samael and xiron imo

[frozen zodiac]

Oh I thought fara was better

[misty elm]

Llum is a super support

Especially the Magic one

[nocturne rover]

Yay finally got 3 slots on a good monster

[misty elm]

I got one unlocked on mine ...

[serene storm]

Cool!

[nocturne rover]

And to what level should I level her up?

[misty elm]

I call hax 😂

[nocturne rover]

Oof Kihaku

[misty elm]

To 100 of course

[serene storm]

Do you pay for all nemesisses?

[misty elm]

Hmm?

Me?

[serene storm]

No I mean anyone

[little berry]

You have to pay for Nemesises

[serene storm]

Hmm I see.

[little berry]

Wether they be $$$ or a butt load of gems

[misty elm]

Yeah, right now you can only get them for real money

[nocturne rover]

I think it will always be like that

[little berry]

Probably

[nocturne rover]

But you honestly don't need em if you have ranked WM

[inland trail]

Llum

[misty elm]

Most likely, but they really should make events where we could earn some cells ...

[inland trail]

Magic llum is just OP

[little berry]

I mean, Sammy is always good to have aswell as Faraday. And Woobi of course

[inland trail]

But the other two are extremely good too

[misty elm]

I run the Metal one as an attacker

[inland trail]

I would rank her right after sammy and ruby, she isn't really close to them, but is fsr ahead of the others

Well, metal one is an attacker

[misty elm]

Warthak is good too

He ignores Evasion

[inland trail]

Every nemesis is extremely good TBH

[little berry]

and so is luci

I adore my 110 Hopefreezer

[misty elm]

~~ I wonder should I give X runes to my Warthak ... ~~

[inland trail]

Some are just OP so we think the ones such as luci and hydratila aren't good
Same for WMs and zahra/barbael (?)

[misty elm]

Water Hydratila is really good

[inland trail]

Base one

[misty elm]

Yes

[inland trail]

Since the other 2 are actually earth/thunder monsters

[misty elm]

The other two are in the wrong element (literally)

[little berry]

lol

I might gamble with Hydratilla when he comes around since I only need to pull the electric one (Boltbreaker or something) to get him

[misty elm]

Boltcaster

[little berry]

Yeah that one

[inland trail]

Boltcaster is the worst skill and element wise

[misty elm]

Yeah, Daze is not really good compared to Freeze and Stun

[little berry]

Oof no wonder I have 70 cells of him

[inland trail]

But can be a nice attacker in sea wars

Or against water monsters in general

[little berry]

I still wanna unlock him

[nocturne rover]

Is this a good team to use with Elvira or should I change Sammy for a denier?

[inland trail]

He's pretty good too, it's just that the other two are better

Sammy isn't a denier

[nocturne rover]

I know but should I change him for one?

[winter river]

At least feed him

[inland trail]

Runeset/build depends on preferance

[misty elm]

I gave mine 3 speed

[inland trail]

Maybe his dark temple isn't lv 8?

[misty elm]

Fever Scatterer, though

[nocturne rover]

Lol zinedine I don't have the food rn

[winter river]

Make some then

[little berry]

I want PC

[nocturne rover]

I'm only lvl 59

So I still am working on the gold farms

[winter river]

@little berry buy one in Amazon

[little berry]

[inland trail]

On my main acc I have a 115 PC with
And on an elite one I run I have FS with and this PC...

[little berry]

Attacker FS I assume?

[inland trail]

Yup

[nocturne rover]

Oh I'll also change fir speed when I get the TT skill

[inland trail]

But I do run the rez skill on him most of the time too, just in case

[misty elm]

And which one is the best one?

[little berry]

The Rez skill is so good

[inland trail]

There's no true best

[little berry]

Saved me a ton of times

[inland trail]

Both PC and FS have so many pros and no cons (basically)
Depends on preferance

[misty elm]

Well, I think Plague Carrier is far superior (at least his turn-transfer skill)

[inland trail]

I prefer plague too, because of that TT and the higher life

[little berry]

I feel like PC is more supportive while FS is more offensive

[inland trail]

That's correct

[misty elm]

I feel the same

[nocturne rover]

This is the skill set I should use for Elvira right?

[misty elm]

I run my FS with 3 speed, though, preparing for the next dungeons with Warthak and Xiron

[inland trail]

But PC can also be an attacker while FS can be a support, and they'll still be amazing

Yeah, that skillset is fine

[nocturne rover]

Aight thnx 👌

[azure rose]

I got elvira!!!!

(:

[little berry]

yayyy

🎊

🎊🎊🎉🎇

[dapper hinge]

Congrats!!!

[fickle acorn]

[nocturne rover]

Gratz!

[stable siren]

Big yay!

[inland trail]

Ranked with purely magic cells, just need sherry's dungeon now

[haughty lance]

Is the $50 xiron chest worth it?

[swift epoch]

prob not

[tall cedar]

unless you get 200 cells of emerald at least

[frozen zodiac]

Isn’t ruby better

[frail comet]

Yes she's faster

[misty elm]

Should I get a 100 Sherezar? Or make Necro rank 2?

[little berry]

sherry

[winter river]

Rank necro he is useful at r2

[inland trail]

Yeah, 100 sherry isn't too useful

[hot stream]

I havent used my 100 sherezar at all

[hasty dock]

100 Sherry is decent enough if u have high ranked Uriel's Essence and Oblation Trap

I recently beat a 120 Cain with 3 lvl X reds with my 100 Sherry :GWcmeisterPeepoLove:

[kind crane]

Yeah 100 Shezza is a class support. I run mine triple X ts. Does great

[real wasp]

@hasty dock can u show me ur attack and defence team please?

[river laurel]

Is WM Zahra worth getting? Or is she low priority?

[inland trail]

Depends what you have/are aiming for

[hasty dock]

@real wasp these are the ss u requested

The defence team varies, currently using this one

[real wasp]

Great

Thought u dont have nemeses

Thats why i asked

[hasty dock]

I have almost all of them, and except a few, all ranked too 😉

[kind crane]

You’re still bad tho

[hasty dock]

Ofc I am, I don't have the means to compete with the rich people 😅

[real wasp]

Well u paid for them, right?

[hasty dock]

Nope

Well, I only bought a Faraday cells chest recently 🤔

But that's it

[real wasp]

Wuut?? How u got others?

[hasty dock]

The once golden Nemesis Cells dungeons

I have an extensive collection, so completing them when they were available was not much of an issue

[real wasp]

Using vips?

[inland trail]

No, you could use normal monsters in them too

I did them with R5 epics and rares

[crystal vigil]

i would've done them with r5 epics if i had r5 epics

i barely finished the first node of lucifire hard using igursus and 2 rares

[inland trail]

[crystal vigil]

i could've had all 3 talos but when the first talos dungeons(with VIPs if you want to get more than 10 cells) existed i just finished the automaton dungeon for 10 cells and for others i was like "i won't be able to do anything with 10 cells so i won't bother"

well, i was wrong

so now the only nemesis i have are base lucifire and base talos

[inland trail]

[lethal berry]

Quick question. The nemesis chest they put out, if I buy one of the $50 chests, how much of a chance do I have to actually getting a whole nemesis to craft

[serene meteor]

if its the superchest then probably over 50%

[lethal berry]

I seen there are like 3 or 4 different types of the same monster, just confused me.

[serene meteor]

you can ask away

people will tell you the best ones

[little berry]

What nemesis chest are you planning on buying?

[serene meteor]

^

[graceful shale]

If you're not willing to spend even more on top of the $50 and you don't have any nemesis cells right now I think it's a huge risk to buy as you're likely to not be able to craft anything.

[lethal berry]

I would either like Xrion or Samuel

[foggy haven]

When did this happen.... Immunity to all control skills. ... ???

[lethal berry]

@graceful shale yeah, that's what I was wondering, how much do you actually get in the chest

[graceful shale]

Each chest has a 50% chance of containing nemesis cells (or currently some really terrible other legendary cells). If you get the nemesis cells, there are 3 variants so you'd need to hit the same one 2 times in order to craft.

[little berry]

If you buy Xiron then hope for Ruby as that's the best variant, if you buy Sammy then either variant is good FS is more offensive based, whereas PC is more supportive, there both great.

[graceful shale]

The way the nemesis cells are offered right now are pretty anti-player. Gambling for a 1/6 chance to get the nemesis you want and the "consolation" prize is often breedable cells 😦

[lethal berry]

I see, so if I went for a nemesis, I better be planning on buying more.

[graceful shale]

It's pretty crummy, but if you're not prepared to spend a good bit, there's way too high a chance that your $50 purchase could be useless

Which is pretty darn ridiculous if you ask me

[winter river]

@foggy haven wdym that's gortak trait since he was released

[foggy haven]

If it was all control skills, then why to write stun and megastun in a different sentence...

It must be he himself "immune to" all control skills... Not "gives immunity to"....

[winter river]

Yes it's self

[graceful shale]

Yes, he is immune to control, but only gives immunity to stuns to team

I can see how the description can be read awkwardly, but it does say that

[foggy haven]

I think it's talking about the trait...
The trait gives immunity to control... .
And stun megastun immunity to all

[graceful shale]

Yes, that is how all traits are described I believe

At least the ones that are immunity to status types

[solemn brook]

I have an IQ question to ask:

Is it possible to craft another of the same type of WM?

[soft talon]

What?

Nemesis you mean?

[high abyss]

no

you cant make 2 of the same warmaster

[soft talon]

Oh

[high abyss]

if thats what you are askin

it was a glitch before but was patched

[soft talon]

Why would you want it anyway?

Why would you want multiple Elviras or something?

[solemn brook]

no

It's easier for me to rank

look I have the required monsters, but they suck

which means it would be difficult to finish D3

[little berry]

I'd love 2 Elvira's 1 for defense 1 for offense

[haughty lance]

Can an R1 burotgor, R1 Baba Yaga, and R1 Koralle Brutallis Best the last node of WM ragnarok floor 2?

[swift epoch]

depends on your runes and relics

[kind crane]

Yeah

[fiery skiff]

Sadly

[fickle otter]

How many orbs does it take to get a r3 to r4?

[little berry]

Orbs Required For Each Floor For Warmaster
1st floor 20x40 =800
2nd floor 25x60 = 1500
3rd floor 30x80 = 2400
4th floor 35x100=3500
5th floor 40x120=4800
6th floor 45x150=6750

[fickle otter]

But you get rank 4 and 5 from the 6th floor

[little berry]

oh

🤦

[fickle otter]

2270?

[sand coral]

2400 orbs on floor 6 for R4

[fickle otter]

Ah okok ty

[sand coral]

No problem. It’s cheap, but requires R5 monsters

[fickle otter]

Yea idk if ill be able to complete it all

[little berry]

whose dungeon is it?

[fickle otter]

Thalassa

Almost have blob at r5

[little berry]

nice

[fickle otter]

So itll be blob, theyts and mudflow lmao

[little berry]

lol

mudflow wat is doing there 😂

[fickle otter]

Better than nothing 🤷‍♂️ can put a uriel essence on him and can help freeze and control stamina

[little berry]

ok

wish u luck

[fickle otter]

Hey man i completed most of gortak dungeon with trilops mudflow and joppers

[little berry]

[sand coral]

I’m hoping I can get R4 using 3 R5 epics. Anyone with experience on Thalassa’s 6th floor know if that seems likely? Freeza/Musu/Nautilus runed as denier/support/attack, respectively

[inland trail]

Here is the table I made a while ago, I think this one is the easiest to read out of them all

[odd temple]

🤔

[serene storm]

😍 good job mate

[glacial mural]

@inland trail Great ! thanks

[honest herald]

👀 👀

[little berry]

floor 2 last node of warmaster rag, who should i take out first

and which warmasters are going to be in the next rotation

[silver tulip]

thalassa, gortak, and someone else

[little berry]

@little berry

thanks @little berry

👍 np

[hardy temple]

Is Thalassa or Sherezar better at 115-120?

[candid oasis]

thalassa

i am going for r1 thalassa this rotation next will be r2 then r3 so on...

[frozen crane]

thalassa

thalassa has much more gimmicks that makes her more versatile than sherry at almost all levels

[misty elm]

You misspelled OP 😄

[stark rain]

When thalassa dungeon coming?

[frozen crane]

soon

in around 2 hours

[kind crane]

Buzzzinngggg

[main current]

I hope my warmasters are okay in their lil dungeons. I’m beginning to worry. 😂

[hollow hollow]

Where's the dungeons for next round 😡

[little berry]

🤷

[real wasp]

Starting on 1st

[little berry]

how did u know

[strong bison]

Lol

WM dengoun on R.O.F.L on April 1st

[little berry]

[real wasp]

Idk i just know

4 rotations x 7 days

2-3 days break

[little berry]

28 days total

idk

ppl need wm's

like now

[real wasp]

Soo?

They get on 1st

Not big deal

[little berry]

and if its a guy like me who cant wait? 😂

[real wasp]

Lol

[main current]

Make,Break, & Change their guidelines very often...... Too often.

[tame abyss]

They travel to future

[fickle acorn]

Nothing has been said about them being on the 1st.

They could be, they could not.

[mossy sorrel]

Hi anyone here

[little berry]

no

go and say hi in #ml-general-discussion

[fleet oriole]

thalassa r0 or ragnarok r0

[little berry]

I want to say Ragsnrocks but Idk what Thetys mom can do unranked so Idk

[hardy temple]

I would say Rags. He is an absolute beast.

[little berry]

no

bella is the beast 😁

[stark rain]

Where warmaster dungs

[stable siren]

@little berry if ya can't wait

Ya shouldn't be playing rpgs mate

[little berry]

it was a joke...

😁

[winter river]

Are we having nemesis dungeons again?

[little berry]

#announcements

[stable siren]

@winter river mayhaps

[winter river]

🤔 taringa post say there going to be dungeons to get free nemesis cells

[stable siren]

M a y h a p s

Taringa is forbidden doe

[tame beacon]

See #announcements

[calm lance]

Rip

[long barn]

Anyone know when next warmaster rotation will be available?

[sand coral]

Best guess would be April 1st. The dungeon does say that it will return from the 1st to the 8th (I think) every month when it’s active

[stark rain]

Old warmaster dungeon cycles were better

[long barn]

Ok, thanks Tony 👍

[little berry]

The nemesis cells in dungeons was a mistake. Its going to be orbs

[frozen crane]

its not a mistake it was an april fools prank

[serene meteor]

nemesis dungeons dont matter for me

i dont have vips

lol

inheritor island is up

what

[frozen crane]

theyre only going to give free nemesis cells on the day i get to room 90 for 0 gems

which is never

[serene meteor]

bruh

[tame beacon]

It wasn’t an April fools prank at all...

[misty elm]

What?

[stoic path]

115 ragnarok or 105-110 renmtar?

[misty elm]

I say Raggy, he's too versatile, but Remmy is also good. Tough choice

Hehe, Remmy and Raggy 😄

[stable siren]

Bruh sound effect #2 and bruh sound effect #3

[real wasp]

What u mean sonnor?

[hasty dock]

He means that the leak was not intended as a prank

It was just an innoncent repost of an old news

[tame beacon]

It wasn't a repost either

It's a upcoming thing, that is being worked on. The text was WIP, but reached taringa anyway

Not unlike how Makugan's info on there initially said that she had Area Evasion 😃

[kind crane]

So the nem cells are coming?

[fickle acorn]

In the dungeons, no.

[kind crane]

But Sonnor said it’s an upcoming thing? And on the pic didn’t it say it would be

[tame beacon]

A nemesis dungeon is coming, but it will not give cells. It will give relics and orbs

I suspect essentially a rework of the nemesis survival dungeon, which is still a nemesis dungeon 😉

[kind crane]

So it’s not an upcoming thing?

It is just flat out wrong

[tame beacon]

Well it is, because its an upcoming dungeon of a format we've not had before.

And don't have now

[serene meteor]

So is it gonna be a nemesis survival with orbs and other stuff as rewards or what?

[tame beacon]

However it's best to completely ignore the text altogether. A dungeon is coming related to Nemesis that gives relics and orbs, thats all the matters.

[kind crane]

Yes, but it stated cells. Which aren’t being provided. So that isn’t upcoming

[tame beacon]

Yes completely ignore that text 😃

[kind crane]

😉

[misty elm]

I hope it's not a survival dungeon

[hasty dock]

🤔

Sonnor nailed it with "ignore the text" 😂

I'll do just that

What will be, will be... No point getting all excited and having difficulty getting sleep at night because of all the excitement 😂

[strong bison]

[mortal bay]

Taringa isn't official info, and isn't very reliable for controversial text

[wide python]

WIP says it all

[pine cosmos]

Just please tell me that they're not going to reduce the orbs because tbh I'm pretty reliant on my monthly nemesis dungeons for the chance at 1200 orbs and maybe a diamond relic

[frozen crane]

doesnt the current nemesis survival dungeon give a dia relic and some orbs tho

[torn arrow]

It says "all resurrections will be blocked but monsters will heal after every node"

What happens if the monster is knocked out? Is it revived after the node is done? Or does it need to survive for it to heal?

If that is the case then that is NOT an improvement at all! It actually makes things worse.

Healing was never the problem
With samael and Llum and healing relics if you still survived you could delay the round till you heal. The problem was getting one shot killed out of a sudden by a special or op attack. But at least if samael survives you could resurrect. Healing after each node (only if monster survives) does not eliminate the problem of getting one shot killed out of no where, it only makes it more difficult to survive a node.

So if a knocked down monster is not revived between nodes this is even worse than it was

[high abyss]

where does it say this?

[little berry]

it was (or still is) a taringa post

[hasty dock]

Q: what'll happen to the Nemesis Survival dungeons until this new thing comes out?

[sleek lagoon]

@hasty dock What new thing?

[hasty dock]

This new WIP regarding Nemesis dungeons

[fiery skiff]

When can we use war masters in nemesis dungeons is the real question.

[stable siren]

@pine cosmos the nemesis survivals are 1000 orbs doe

[misty elm]

We had to use VIP monsters for the Talos dungeons ...

[little berry]

@misty elm That was a one-time thing.

It was solely for Talos' release.

[hasty dock]

Still, it'd be fun to have some exclusive events with VIPs and WMs too, similar to the Nemeses events

[misty elm]

Something similar to the Talos event. No survival dungeon, but very hard with different effects at the start.

[fiery skiff]

@hasty dock yeah exactly

It would help a lot if we could use at least exclusive monsters in nemesis dungeons

[hasty dock]

Nemesis dungeons, in their current format, do require "Exclusive" monsters 😉

[fiery skiff]

Specific exclusive monsters. I means others such as war masters and VIP mainly. Warmasters mainly because they put them in the dungeons so it'd be fair for us to use ours as well.

[devout ore]

is this yearly now?

[little berry]

Tommorow will be on warmasters dungeons?

[stable siren]

Should be

[little berry]

ok thank u 🙂 I saw post on fb. In comment was that tommorow. But better ask I guess. 🙂

[frozen crane]

they should bring back all wm dungeon for 3 days in compensation for the 3 day wait

except sherezar gortak and thalassa will be 7 days as normal

[stable siren]

Why so

It's said that they start on 1st every month so

Why would it change

[sleek lagoon]

Cant wait till Marquis De Flambe

[little berry]

we need a moment a silence for prince charmless

...amen

Not the right place to discuss bout race monsters thou 🤔

o rn i noticed

[stable siren]

@little berry keep on the topic

😂

[little berry]

shut up 😂

[little berry]

What’s the cost for a single warmaster again?

[dreamy rock]

2300 orbs

[frozen crane]

@stable siren i mean there should be some sort of compensation for the down time, shouldnt there?

+im not saying change the schedule permanently

im just saying in exchange for the 3 day downtime, we have all wm dungeons back open for 3 days

and then the schedule goes back to normal

starting with thalassa sherezar gortak

[tame beacon]

Not really no, we don’t need compensation at all...

[wide python]

Compensation for not having wm dungeons 🤔 lets also ask compensation for april fools day and not having been pranked yet or have we already been

[strong bison]

My favourite day in the year

Is here

Well SP

Was the prank saying no nemesis dengouns for cell's?😉 😉 😉

[stark rain]

This WM thing is april fools joke

[tall cedar]

Warmaster survival Dungeon🙈

[wide python]

Common survival dungeon

[misty elm]

Wut?

[stark rain]

10 min till wm dungs!!

[misty elm]

Warmaster dungeons?

[stark rain]

Socialpoint nice april fools prank

Gimme back wm dungs

[misty elm]

Should I use my Elementium on this monster? I have 503 Elementium and around 128 Magic cells (I want it rank 3)

@stark rain that's disgusting 😂

[fiery skiff]

Yes

Ruby worth elementium

[misty elm]

I also have Samael the Fever Scatterer at rank 1, so maybe I should make him rank 3 ...

[stark rain]

Ruby better

[wide python]

@misty elm idid sammy first lol dont know if thats a promotion to the idea

[misty elm]

Well, I can do only one monster right now ....

[wide python]

Well now the epic extraction for elem cells is a thing I can do faraday next

[little berry]

im doing kozorg ranked

[strong bison]

Well

I don't have fara

Cos none nemesis dengouns

👀

[misty elm]

Easier said than done. I want to rank-up my unbreedable epics ... 😂

And breeding epics is still 1 day 9 hours

But I might extract my 130 Thorder

once I can breed another one

[strong bison]

👀

[little berry]

how much would u get from a 130 legend

[stark rain]

Got thalassa

[stable siren]

@frozen crane um

Go out

[frozen crane]

?

[stable siren]

@frozen crane
If 3 days no dungeon:
Go out
Else:
Idea that would make the rotations useless

[frozen crane]

my idea wouldnt make the rotation useless it was literally a idea for a temporary thing

[stable siren]

It would be every month

Except february

It renders the whole idea of rotations useless if you have every single one on

Just as frequently as the rotations themselves

[sand coral]

I don’t see why having a few days off at the end of the month is an issue. If anything, it gives you a few more days to build up orbs before they start up again.

[winter river]

:GWlulurdTomStare:

[fiery skiff]

Rip emoji fail and rip so close

[winter river]

Emojis doesn't work in some specific Chanels on this server for no reason 🤷

[little berry]

there are reasons

to dont be able to use them

[inland trail]

*to not
Also, there's no real or good reason

[winter river]

Andrej how u using them :GWlulurdWaitWhat:

[fickle acorn]

There are very good reasons.

[winter river]

Can't tell if we don't know them

[inland trail]

^

[odd temple]

Kihaku, literally just spam breed Pandalf or Magic legend and extract for cells

[median silo]

Anyone have any pointers for 3rd from last node in Thalassa dungeon floor 3? Warrior, Gretchen, & Mr. Flaky. It's the one where skill mirror is active for all monsters for the whole fight.

[silver tulip]

i got kihaku so when i get there, ill just do aoe PER

who do you have for the dungeon?

@median silo

[median silo]

I have Kihaku, Cryotan, Thetys, Frostbite, and Mystery available.

AOE PER?

[silver tulip]

then id say use kihaku for the aoe PER (positive effect removal) and then have thetys do her stamina devourers

and cryotan with Olympus so he can draw in the attacks

[median silo]

Positive effect removal doesn't work in WM dungeons

[silver tulip]

it does

ive been doing it

[median silo]

Hmmm. Doesn't work for me. All 3 enemies keep the skill mirror effect

[silver tulip]

at least it should

hmm

then.

im not sure

sorry 😅

[median silo]

Thanks for trying. I really appreciate it. PER definitely doesn't work. Just tried it 3 times.

[silver tulip]

oof

well, if anyone has a solution to this node, ping me as well

cuz ima need to get through it too

[median silo]

Just got it

Frostbite - Glaciel Snowstorm on Gretchen, then Kihaku's regeneration skill. This let Cryotan get his double life + shield skill. After that Cryotan just reflecting the enemies knocked everyone out except Warrior and only leaving home with about 1/4 life. Then Cryo could finish him off

[hot stream]

Lol

[median silo]

I used that same strategy for the last 2 nodes in that floor as well.

@silver tulip

[silver tulip]

ok, thanks

all i have for the dungeon is r1 kihaku, r2 nautilus, and r1 cryotan tho

[frozen crane]

NER doesnt work against preemptive effects in wm dungeons either. Ive tried arch knights purify in elvira dungeon and preemptive debuffs remained @silver tulip

[dreamy rock]

The final baby battle
This is gonna be epic

And I'm also fighting a gnome

Good to know

[little berry]

good luck ^^

that battle took me hours

i even brought and ranked a DM for it 😂

[dreamy rock]

They're so fast

Heck

This is so easy

Elvira and Rag took me forever
But this is so freakin easy

[little berry]

You got this ^^

i didnt have the luxury of shademoon when i did it

[dreamy rock]

Yeah, this is gonna be an easy win

[little berry]

oof nice

[dreamy rock]

For once in my life getting a WM is easy

[little berry]