monster-discussion

[mortal bay]

2.) It's a good team

[kind crane]

3.) i enjoy annoying you

4.) I could easy beat it

[mortal bay]

Mhmm

[kind crane]

When I push during race I’ll track ya down

[mortal bay]

Get rid of it

[kind crane]

Get rid of it now

[silver tulip]

can someone answer my question about gortak from above?

[fleet oriole]

@mortal bay how much have you spent on orbs x_x

[mortal bay]

I didn't keep track

[cinder geyser]

Lol yami hope you're not mad because I attacked your base last season and nearly won..... 😅

[silver tulip]

nearly

[cinder geyser]

Yeh if it wasn't for the special protection I would've won

[crystal vigil]

i don't think i've ever found yami

but i found tek once and beat him :wesmart:

[long crater]

@kind crane

[little berry]

what wm should i get after getting babari? 🤔

[long crater]

Who do you have so far

[little berry]

huh?

[long crater]

Which wm do you have so far

[little berry]

babari ;-;

read more carefully

[long crater]

Get Elvira

[little berry]

or no wait woops

bad english

🤦

ok

[hasty dock]

If u're aiming for unranked WMs, get Elvira> Ragnarok>Remntar >Sherezar in that order

Or u could get Sherezar earlier if u prefer to have True Vision

[little berry]

Finally a list without thalassa

[inland trail]

Those are unranked WMs though

[frozen crane]

Thalassa is still great unranked tho

[frozen crane]

@hasty dock what runes do u run on ur r0 elvira?

[hasty dock]

Life lvl 6, and teamspeeds lvl 7

Technically, all the WMs are good, just get them to cover ur areas of weakness

But the ones listed above will give u the most coverage at lvl 100

[frozen crane]

do u think strength ts and ts could work on elvira r0?

or maybe elvira r1

[hasty dock]

Well, I recommend atleast r2 for a to be useful, but I suppose r1 maaay work

At r0, her main job is support, and a is way better

[frozen crane]

i see

and im assuming ur r0 sherezar is triple ?

[ancient spear]

Stupid question incoming: Can you use a R5 monster on every floor, or does it have to be exactly R1, R2. etc? Feel free to virtually smack me

[sage marlin]

@ancient spear yes you can

[candid oasis]

@mortal bay i also dont like denier monster but in attack team

@mortal bay check this

[tall cedar]

Shademoon👌

[little berry]

👌 👌 👌

[polar valve]

nice team there

[hasty dock]

My Sherezar has 1 ts lvl 9, and rest 2 ts lvl 7

[frozen crane]

o

so for an r2 sherezar, if im gonna pair it with thalassa or xiron, should it still be all ts?

[tall cedar]

Aye

[fleet oriole]

@frozen crane yeah or you make the Xiron ts

[frozen crane]

ill prob make the sherezar ts since its gonna be run with thalassa

[little berry]

Which skill is better for thalassa at all ranks
Artic waves or Thalassa's chosen

[crystal vigil]

If unranked then run both
If ranked run thalassa's chosen

[little berry]

Is Thalassa's chosen a must have skill?
Cause I got banned from ML amino for saying this and they said my opinion is retardo

[crystal vigil]

ML amino is retardo

[little berry]

Yeah

[inland trail]

Thalassa's chosen is a must have @little berry

[viscid lance]

Sooo what elements are the Ragnarok Dungeons?

I need to get 115 and I only know up to 105

[crystal vigil]

#ml-community-helping-others

[frozen crane]

if thalassas chosen is a must have, what sg4 move should i not use then (assuming thalassa is 120)

[mortal bay]

You only run 2 sg4 skills

Abyssal bottom and the extra turn skill

[frozen crane]

wait

so abyssal bottom/plankton/thalassa chosen/?

[mortal bay]

Water fluid something

3 extra turn skills and abyssal bottom

[frozen crane]

high pressure fluid?

[mortal bay]

Yh

[frozen crane]

oh

why not cryotan breath? (level 105 aoe mega freeze skill)

[tame beacon]

Because Abyss Bottom gives AOE mega freeze anyway

[mortal bay]

It's not good enough

Running any set other than the one I said can be countered without much difficulty

[frozen crane]

o ok

yikes this requires me to get 120 thalassa

feelsbadman

[mortal bay]

You can indefinitely have them frozen

[frozen crane]

wont stamina become an issue then?

[mortal bay]

The battle doesn't last long enough for her to care about stamina

Double stamina SC

Plus supercharged amulet

Or any stamina amulet

[frozen crane]

oh

i dont have a supercharged amulet atm so i run healing amulet on thalassa rn

my thalassa is r0 anyways lol

[tame beacon]

There's some good videos in #ml-youtube that show how to use a fully ranked Thalassa by people like Tek. Worth checking out if you're unsure 😃

[hasty dock]

Thalassa can pretty much chain deny even at r0 @frozen crane

True, she lacks the team chain deny of higher ranks, but keeping the enemy denier out of function often does the job well enough

[nocturne rover]

Best runes for unranked Sammy PC?

[little berry]

What runes should i run on sunbringer

[mortal bay]

[little berry]

and its sunblast and u ask in the wrong channel

[mortal bay]

[little berry]

I meant warthawk the sunbringer and not sunblast

ohhh

🤦 🤦

i feel like my brain is missing

[little berry]

he rly out here

saying sunbringer -> sunblast

lol

[steady shuttle]

I got some time ago Samael the Disease spreader, I know he is the worst from the three. Is he worth to rank up by elementiunum or nah?

[little berry]

What runes for Remntar?

[gilded coyote]

I run with great effect

isn't a bad choice

[little berry]

Team life?

[gilded coyote]

if you wanna run him funky at 115 or 120 to deny control effects, but I"m just going off the rails now

Yea he's my metal tank

[crystal vigil]

metal tank 🤔

[gilded coyote]

Plenty of life to go around now to ensure I reflect well

Yepp, heard me right 🙃

"Tank" being a rune setup

[crystal vigil]

metal

[little berry]

Some people recommended
Or
What do you say?

[crystal vigil]

how is Samael the Disease spreader metal

[gilded coyote]

he asked about remntar

[crystal vigil]

oh

[little berry]

Yee

[crystal vigil]

for some reason i thought about samael

because of the message above

[gilded coyote]

I personally wouldn't go strength, but if it fits your needs it would work

What rank?

[little berry]

0

I already have Scrap warrior and supper dan

[gilded coyote]

He has some hitting options for sure at R0 so it's plausible

Oh yea no

have tankerion?

[little berry]

No.

[gilded coyote]

Going for Wangzhou?

I have a reason for the questions lol

[little berry]

Well
I guess he will be in the monster wood
Beside I already have school so
No I'm not going for him in the maze

Pretty hard tbh

[gilded coyote]

Gotcha, then I would run Remntar with at least 2 TS

[little berry]

Oh

[gilded coyote]

So out of the options earlier I would say health

I guess Team Health isn't super great depending on rune lvl

[pulsar fjord]

Guys Barbari isn't mirroring attacks, any idea?

[little berry]

He only reflect damage tho

yes

and take advantage of the bug

[pulsar fjord]

Yes mean damage reflect

[little berry]

if aoe reflects three times

[gilded coyote]

Is that a bug?

[little berry]

idk i heard it is...it isnt?

[gilded coyote]

figured it was intended with how skill mirror works now

It makes sense if you hit with an aoe that you'd get 3 sets of reflected damage

[little berry]

Anyway I think team life is still kinda useful
I will see when I get a high life rune
Btw Thanks Majora

[pulsar fjord]

He reflect even if team mate got the hit?

[little berry]

also

[gilded coyote]

Most welcome, hopefully I was helpful in the long run 😃

[pulsar fjord]

Weird mine isn't working

[little berry]

there is something strange

when possessed and skill mirror u attack urself

[gilded coyote]

If all 3 have dmg mirror and only a teammate gets hit, only that dmg instance gets reflected

[little berry]

again

[gilded coyote]

yes indeed

that is intended

[little berry]

seems a bit weird but we cant change it bcoz its how it was intended

[pulsar fjord]

I have necro with him to prevent posess

[gilded coyote]

always has worked that way I believe

[pulsar fjord]

And Zahra to Increase life

[gilded coyote]

Yea that's a smart move

[crystal vigil]

so every war ever is metal/nature/dark?

[gilded coyote]

Babari/Remntar/Necro is a devastating combo if you aren't prepared

Who said anything about war?

[little berry]

one of my teammates is using babari gelotron remntar and its 👌

[gilded coyote]

That sounds solid, I usually run Ragnarok/Babari/Remntar on pvp defense to great effect

got bored and now I change up almost daily

now it's neobuki/remntar/babari with 0 regular speed lol

Still winning

[little berry]

im winning with babari sunblast and dbg

[fleet oriole]

lol

im using ruby learnean & undertaker on defence xD

Ruby Undertaker & Sherry on attack

[little berry]

babari is very awesome against extra turners defenses

since returns dmg+shocks

[gilded coyote]

I was thinking of using my attack team on defense for a bit to see how it did

but I need a sherry rank before my atk team is done

[little berry]

i might be a good idea if u want to hold on a league

[gilded coyote]

Yea, pretty comfortable now, but the season is still somewhat young

[little berry]

yep

u would want to do this when u r satisfied with ur trophy amount

[gilded coyote]

indeed

I'm pumped to work on Zahra for Dun Raa shenanigans

[little berry]

👌

[fleet oriole]

6.1k is usually L3 right?

[little berry]

6.3k sometimes

[fleet oriole]

ah ok

as a semi-f2p player (mostly using 100-115s) the highest i can get is 6.1k lol

i think when i get elvira it'll be ez pz kthx bye

[little berry]

Pvp?

i can easily win against 130 bases with my weak team

:p

I got to 6.1k without a warmaster :v

[dreamy rock]

👀

[little berry]

babari is destroying the extra turners

Yeah

[cinder geyser]

Yes even the anticipation monsters with his trait disable skill

[gilded coyote]

Babari is such a hidden gem

[little berry]

Boring skills

[inland trail]

Boring skills, but can be very useful at times

[short badge]

^

[pale crane]

Sting is great et counter

[silver tulip]

use faraday instead

[pale crane]

Lol nemesis. Im not allowed to have those

[silver tulip]

smae

[past violet]

is there a place where I can see each of the nodes for Elvira floor 3?

like what monsters and traits and runes are at each node?

[little berry]

i think there isnt

[inland trail]

Yes, the dungeon

[little berry]

look on yt at getting elvira r1

some videos should have the response

[past violet]

They only seem to go up to floor 2

nvm thank you

[fleet oriole]

rn i have Taiga, Ingvars BG both R1

and some rando Epic R1

should that be enough for elvira?

[little berry]

no

[slim mango]

its should

maby

i had 2 epics and a demise

a rank 2 demise

and i beat it

but it was really hard

[abstract galleon]

can i win in the last elvira node with al canine, clowd and lady solaris all lvl 105?

[slim mango]

ofcourse

if i beat it with 110 demise, 2 rank 1 epics it should be really easy

[abstract galleon]

ok

tnx!

wait

which epics did you use?

@slim mango ?

??

[slim mango]

anitas

i think

the mermaid

and fayemelina

[abstract galleon]

ok

did you use ner with demise?

?

[fleet oriole]

@slim mango what runes lol?

and did u have relics on them

[slim mango]

yes

runes are 2 team strength(or team life) and 1 team strength(or team life)on fayemelina

3 team strength on anitais

and 2 speed

and 1 strength on demise

[fleet oriole]

what lvl

[slim mango]

it went down with a lot of luck

level 95 on epics

110 on demise

[fleet oriole]

no on runes

[slim mango]

2 5 and 1 6 fayemelina

on anitais its level 3

demise have 1 level 6 speed and 1 level 5

[fleet oriole]

did u have a specific game plan xD

[slim mango]

and a strength rune which i dont remenber

no

its all about getting lucky

[fleet oriole]

yeah

[slim mango]

first deny hp

with demise

[fleet oriole]

on the final node i was just kinda retrying until i got good random debuffs etc

[slim mango]

than get demise special

[fleet oriole]

wait does demise have a deny xD

[slim mango]

the 2 random negative effect skill XD

[fleet oriole]

ohh XD

[slim mango]

than also elvira cant do remove positive effects

yeah

its really bad strat

[fleet oriole]

i can get demise r1 prolly but idk if its worth it xdd

since it'd be spending elementium

[slim mango]

dont do it

the strat is extreamly luck based

its even harder to pull of since they nerf special skills

[fleet oriole]

what when how when

[pale crane]

Im on floor 2, fourth node from elvira. Using cloud, taiga, rocigon (all i have for r1 other than rabbish whos in lab waiting for legendary overlords) and its super tough.

[barren arch]

Do you have Demise?

If not, you just need to replay. Hope for your specials to come out.

I won’t tell you on my little account the last step. 😧🥴

[pale crane]

No demise. I missed my alarm for the 30% dicount during the maze that had her and ended up wasting all my coins...oops 😅

I have plenty of elementium so will rank gakora if i cant get lucky enough to clear 2nd floor in next couple days

[hasty dock]

What runes do u have on ur monsters?

From the looks of it, u're probably lacking speed, and that might be the reason for ur hardship. Is that so?

[pale crane]

Def not stong ones as i dont have many. Made it to elvira but every time i get close to winning a critical hit misses or they get special. Just need to keep at it until luck favors me

[hasty dock]

Use a Bronze Healing Amulet on Taiga, and more strength runes on him

[pale crane]

Ill give it a try. Replace the team speed?

[hasty dock]

Yes, that should work

Just cast the Double Damage + Camouflage 1st turn and sit tight, let Rocigon take a few hits, and keep applying shields with Cloud

[pale crane]

Ok cool. Gotta go fishing through my 792 bronze chests first 🙃

[pale crane]

Added healing amulet and upped some runes to vi. Getting closer...

Think i should collect my r1 rabbish from lab? Was trying to save him for overlords but have elementium to rank others if i need to

[hasty dock]

🤔

Can u describe the turn orders of the battle?

Ideally, taking out that Holter's Pet fast should be ur top priority

[dreamy rock]

I would've been blessed to have a team like that on last node😅
I had a kinda lame team of Taiga Layth and Kaori

[hasty dock]

Hey, that's not a lame team at all !!!

Layth is a really amazing Light attacker

[dreamy rock]

Well I sure had a hard as heck time beating the last node

[hasty dock]

What other options do u have?

[dreamy rock]

When I finally won, it was better strengths on Taiga some luck and an ult from Taiga

[hasty dock]

Ah yes, that is a real blessing

[dreamy rock]

@pale crane Some speed on cloud would be good
Then he could use Charge with me on Taiga and Taiga could take someone out

Oh wait

No strength on Taiga?

[hasty dock]

He has put one, I think

Besides, Charge with Me is better left for late match, Taiga has an excellent self buff move himself

[dreamy rock]

Heck
Stupid new runes
Can't even tell exactly what levels those are

[hasty dock]

Lol, same story everywhere

[pale crane]

Yea i have a strength now

[hasty dock]

I hate it how new things are introduced over the weekend 😐

Taiga is actually better off with 2 strengths

He really packs a punch in that case

[dreamy rock]

Yes
At least 2 strengths
Those monsters have quite high life
So you're gonna need it

[pale crane]

Yea they are wrecking me lol

[dreamy rock]

When I did this they kept one shotting my monsters

[hasty dock]

I usually don't ask players to move a lot of runes around with gems, but I guess it can't be helped in this case

[pale crane]

Thats basically my situation

For elvira i dont mind

Will send updated ss once i get snother stamina point

[dreamy rock]

Yeah
If you can take out Holters pet and Sir auto you're golden
Elvira is weak on her own

[little berry]

Layth was super helpful for me during Elvira's dungeon

[pale crane]

Honestly not best with strategic rune placement

[little berry]

Especially his AoE removal skill

[dreamy rock]

Rocigon has one

[little berry]

O does he

[dreamy rock]

Ye

[little berry]

I don't have Roci 😅

[hasty dock]

Holter's Pet needs to be OHK'd if possible

I don't even remember what I used 😅

[little berry]

I used, Layth, Solaris and Cloud

[dreamy rock]

Just keep trying till Taiga gets ult and hope you get even more luck
That's what I did😄

[little berry]

I accidentally spend like 113 elementium ranking Solaris tho :(

[dreamy rock]

Oof

[little berry]

I was desperate

[pale crane]

Ive got it a couple times but they just laugh at him. Def need better strength

[dreamy rock]

Yeah
I had to put 567 so he could take them out with ult

While buffed

Before I had 555

[hasty dock]

Activating ur Rune Guardian might be a good idea too

[dreamy rock]

And I still haven't switched back those runes xd

[little berry]

My Layth had 2 level 4 speed runes :P

He only has 2 slots unlocked

[hasty dock]

Layth has decent power for an old L, and 80 point dmg moves... He's more than just viable !!!

[pale crane]

If you can tell what the runes are😂

[hasty dock]

Ditch the lvl 6 life on Taiga for another red, even a lvl 5 will do

[pale crane]

Actually roci is legit blocking the team speed 5 on cloyd

[dreamy rock]

What?

[hasty dock]

Buff him, sit tight, hit Holter's Pet with the 70 point special attack

Even if he doesn't get OHK'd, he'll likely bleed to death fast, unless Elvira heals him

In which case, restore cds with Roci, and repeat

And as I said before, keep shielding ur team with Cloud

[pale crane]

Oh dang didnt know roci could do that. Havent really revisited skills since it became free

[dreamy rock]

Hmm
Just wondering, how many tries have you taken at this?

[pale crane]

Too many...

[dreamy rock]

Wait
Are you not running Charge with Rozinate?

That's like his best skill

[pale crane]

Yes

Dont see restore cd

[dreamy rock]

Charge with Rozinate
It removes all effects from monsters and restore cds and give them extra turn
If you have "charge with Rozinate" then you have the right one

[pale crane]

Oh missed the cd part

Been using it at beginning on cloud so he can shield team. Need to give cloud reg speed runes

[hasty dock]

When is ur Taiga getting his first turn?

[pale crane]

He goes first

Then roci, then all 3 enemies

[dreamy rock]

So then
Taiga goes
Roci uses Charge with Rozinate
And Taiga goes again

[pale crane]

But they all have evade from elvira so can do any damage

Cant

[dreamy rock]

Oh
Right

[hasty dock]

Give Taiga the double dmg self buff and sit tight

[pale crane]

Been using roci on cloud for team shield, but then it removes the node control buffs and he gets stunned by furnace

[hasty dock]

Shield if u like, but its no biggie really

[pale crane]

Ok i added another strength 6 so see what happens

[hasty dock]

Unless someone is getting OHK'd

[pale crane]

Yea they are

[hasty dock]

Just a sec

Are u willing to move more runes around?

Rocigon has a AoE buff removal, so if u want u can go first, remove the evasion and start killing them off fast

[pale crane]

You guys rock

[dreamy rock]

Nice

How'd you win?

[hasty dock]

Well, glad that's over

Enjoy ur new WM !!! 😊

[pale crane]

Replaced health with strength 6 on taiga and team speed 5 with speed 5 for cloud

Thanks!

[dreamy rock]

Np😄

[pale crane]

Got taigas special at end. She was done for anyway but it was nice touch

[cobalt pumice]

well

I am gonna do the first floor of eilvaro

This is gonna be Alotttt of fighting

[brittle hemlock]

Elvira is one of the best, with a great design too

[cobalt pumice]

That is why she is gonna be my second war master

I got thallasa first

[brittle hemlock]

nice

[ionic tinsel]

I’m half way through second floor just need more rbs

*orbs

[brittle hemlock]

oof

[nocturne rover]

I've got enough orbs for Elvira but I don't have enough food to level my monsters 😞

[abstract galleon]

i am in the last node and i cant win

[barren arch]

I felt that way on my second account. It was so hard.

I had to play it so many times. Then I finally survived. It was a relief, but it was exhausting.

It kind of put me off trying for other War Masters.

[cobalt pumice]

I am stuck on an op team now on floor 1 .-.

It is The ringer, Azuriel and Voytek that i fight

The thi ng that makes it so hard is that he gives a 100% shield to all allies

[stoic path]

I have elvira 100 and ragnarok 110. What to do ? Rank ragnarok or waot for new wm or get sherezar?

[cobalt pumice]

It wont be any more new WM

[stoic path]

And no pets?

[cobalt pumice]

HIghly unlikely it will be any

[stoic path]

4th option: get renmtar 100 lvl and use elementals ftom dungeon to rank up talos

Which is better?

For overall game success

[cobalt pumice]

well do you have good enouhg monsters to get more Ragnarok cells?

and complete?

[stoic path]

Well, I have only epics rank 4+. One of them is postiguraf

[cobalt pumice]

Epics will probably not be enough

Especialy since they have strong runes

[stoic path]

Maybe there will be wm dungeon and I need a wm attacker like barbari

Wm survival dungeon like nemesis one

[cobalt pumice]

it is a posibility

We will only see if that is the case with time

[stoic path]

So renmtar or sherezar or keep orbs?

[wanton briar]

Depends on what you have

[hasty dock]

Remntar is good, and u can rank up Talos as a bonus, so I suggest getting him

[wanton briar]

Oh didn't read the above texts... Remntar definitely

[stoic path]

Thank you all!

[fleet oriole]

Should Semeragl, R1 Ingvars BG and R1 Taiga be enough for Elvira's second floor

if so what runes and relics

[abstract galleon]

yay

[nocturne rover]

Congratz

[abstract galleon]

tnx♥

[slim mango]

👍

[river laurel]

Alright lads I need a bit of help. I’m on the final node on Elvira floor 2,but it’s hard as nails. My team is Demise,Taiga,and G.Ingvar. Demise always goes first,then Elvira,then Taiga,then the two monstrosities of tanks,and finally Ingvar.
Any advice on how I can overcome both Elvira’s team evasion and team damage protection?

[abstract galleon]

use higher speed on taiga

and kill them

[mortal bay]

Did you @ the right person ?

[abstract galleon]

use ner on demise

[river laurel]

@mortal bay Yep I did...thanks

[abstract galleon]

and then use taiga

[river laurel]

@abstract galleon ner?

[abstract galleon]

remove positive effects

[brittle hemlock]

@river laurel negative effect removal. The Light Within

[abstract galleon]

same

use the aoe one

[brittle hemlock]

@abstract galleon ner=/=positive effect removal

[abstract galleon]

Endless Celebration

thats the aoe one

[brittle hemlock]

That's AOE posutive effect removal.

[abstract galleon]

f

[river laurel]

@abstract galleon Oh okay sorry.
So,Demise goes

[abstract galleon]

englis no god

[brittle hemlock]

AOE negative effect removal (ner) is The Light Within

[river laurel]

That’s the one right?

[abstract galleon]

ya

and then use taiga

[brittle hemlock]

That removes positive effects from the enemies, eg evasion

[river laurel]

@abstract galleon Yes I’ve tried that a few times,but I haven’t actually thought about giving Taiga a faster speed rune. That might do the trick

[abstract galleon]

wish you luck @river laurel

i won the last node after 30 tries

[brittle hemlock]

I wouldn't give taiga a speed rune

[river laurel]

@abstract galleon Damn lol I think I might be nearing that. Thanks anyway 🙌🏼

[brittle hemlock]

3 speed on demise. One team speed+two strength onTaiga and three team speed on Ingvar

[timid zealot]

@river laurel I’d suggest adding her regeneration skill instead of when light corrupts

[brittle hemlock]

Which ones that, Rainbow Quartz?

[timid zealot]

Demise

[river laurel]

@timid zealot I’ll try that out. Thanks

[brittle hemlock]

The skill name 👀

[river laurel]

@brittle hemlock Alright I’ll try that out as well,thanks

[timid zealot]

Draining light

[river laurel]

Any idea if rune lords will come before Elvira dungeon finishes?

[brittle hemlock]

Wait. Did Elvira's dungeon appear yesterday

BC rune lords timed challenge is every Wednesday. Guaranteed

[river laurel]

@brittle hemlock Elvira dungeon still has 4 days and 19 hours

Sorry I meant rune Experience

Where removing runes is cheaper

[brittle hemlock]

Oh. Probably not

But

Rune removal for gold appears on the 28th

Which I think is Thursday??

[river laurel]

@brittle hemlock Oh thank god 😂Thanks a bunch

[mortal bay]

You don't get points for unequipping runes anymore

[brittle hemlock]

@mortal bay he said he mednt rube experience not rune lords

[mortal bay]

ah

[fleet oriole]

man i cant wait for that rune removal for gold

i only have 2 X runes and i keep one in my temple for changing during rune lords. now that gold removal comes i can just slap that rune onto my taiga for elvira's dungeon

[little berry]

I have one

10% chance of getting one from the chest and i got it lmao

[fleet oriole]

lol

whats the chances of getting an X from 1 1 1 IX

[serene meteor]

25%

[wide python]

It litterly says it when you try

[fleet oriole]

oof

it doesnt feel like 25 tho ;-;

i've done it like 12 times and always gone to IX or lost it

[frozen crane]

thats cuz it isnt

[brittle hemlock]

It is 25% upgrade, 37.5% downgrade and 37.5% downgrade. I myself have lost loads of IXs but have also gotten 5Xs in two weeks.

[fleet oriole]

hmm

would it be worth doing IX I I I or doing 1 1 1 VIII until 4 IX's

[little berry]

if u like to risk them yes :))

[real wasp]

I did two times 1 1 1 9 , and downgraded both times

Yesterday

But i like to risk

[little berry]

i like to risk stamina and life runes 😂

[polar valve]

I like to stay safe

all my x runes from my wms are sitting in the building

[real wasp]

Pu them in ur monsters dude

Whats the point to not put them

[polar valve]

I will give them to Thalassa once I get her to 105

[real wasp]

Ah alright

[polar valve]

need 1200 orbs and a heavily concentrated team though...

[real wasp]

I will have r2 sherezar

Once he comes up

His dungeon

And give him 3 speed level X

[polar valve]

cool

[misty elm]

I was so hyped about my new Nemesis monsters ... but ...

(Xiron's trait icon didn't load properly)

[abstract galleon]

f

[kind crane]

Suck it up and unlock

[misty elm]

😭

[fleet oriole]

@misty elm did you buy them?

[serene meteor]

nice runes tho

[silver tulip]

feels bad buddy

[kindred saffron]

Why is the revenue thing slashed

[sturdy plank]

probs in vault

so when its in vault it cant produce gold

@kindred saffron

[turbid haven]

Hey guys how to beat Elvira dungeon floor 1..I have taiga alanine and cloud

[misty elm]

@fleet oriole yes, I was lucky with the chests (not again, though 😂 )

[turbid haven]

The monster in first floor are rank 1 with my monster are 95 and 90 90

[misty elm]

Make them 100? 🤔

[turbid haven]

The other monsters are equipped with 2 lvl 6 strength runes...they one shot me lol

I have mine rank 1 but didn't made them rank 1

But didn't feed them to 105

[misty elm]

Do it then

[stoic path]

To spend elementiums when I can use elementals, but not enough yet and need too much like 100-200. Have 880 elementiums and 150 metal elementals. Can rank up talos if use 120 elemwntiums to rank 4. Do it now or better to wait when I get elementals?

[tall cedar]

Get elementals imo

[crystal vigil]

They can't one shot you if you deny them with your al canine :GWpaboaWeSmart:

[kind crane]

I mean they still could

Doesn’t al just cda?

[mortal bay]

Stun

[kind crane]

Good luck getting that to land

[turbid haven]

@crystal vigilthey have evasion at start of battle

Can't deny

[crystal vigil]

Well, that's only in the last node
Though you will have to beat the last node eventually

[tame beacon]

Elviras dungeon has 5 nodes per floor with evasion as the battle condition too

Surprised me at first, but if you give someone like Demise Speed she can clear the evasion and let your denier deny 😃

[crystal vigil]

Well, his attackers will probably be slower than the enemy attackers in those nodes

So i don't think evasion battle condition would be a problem

[tame beacon]

Probably, I just remember being caught out when they killed my al Canine a few times 😂

[turbid haven]

Yo guys beat the last node...I don't know how it happened haha haha...

[barren arch]

That’s great news. 🎇🎆😃

[little berry]

@sage marlin 2 more stars and his signature skill shall be yours

[little berry]

h I s

Sorry I am the sex defender of ml

Xiron is an it

[fleet oriole]

I got my Xiron when the big was here so I had ruby explosion at level 100 😉

[stoic path]

Which 2 last elements dungeons for ragnarok? Magic and ...?

[tame beacon]

Metal I believe

[little berry]

Yes, Floor 5 Metal, Floor 6 magic

[misty elm]

Finally

A refreshing sight after Samael and Xiron

[little berry]

@misty elm Sweet. Hope you have the elementium to get the essential Marikana Wraith though?

[misty elm]

640 and around 450 Earth cells

Somehow I need to make all three rank 3 ...

[little berry]

Ooooh you can take him to 115! Nice

[tall cedar]

Noice

[little berry]

Samael will live at 105. He can be an amazing rainbow here. Xiron needs the Explosion to be any good.

[misty elm]

But the problem is I have another good Earth attacker, namely Gortak ...

[little berry]

Warthak is better (at attacking)

[misty elm]

But "luckily" I can't use elementium on him

Yeah, Marikana Wraith is really good

[little berry]

Wraith*. Big difference. Lol

[misty elm]

Still have the Skullcrusher

[little berry]

Being able to counter Elvira just like that is sooo good.

[tall cedar]

You need to the firepower to crush them tho

[little berry]

Well he is strong and you can give him sweet runes

[misty elm]

I have 4 unused X runes right now

[little berry]

Also Mutants

[misty elm]

Plus lots of 7 and 8

I refuse to use Mutants

[little berry]

Why?

They made them easier to make

[misty elm]

Because I won't sacrifice my runes

And you still need a lot to equip a whole team

[little berry]

If you say so. I dont mind sacrificing a lvl 7 stamina rune to help out an attacker

[misty elm]

Oh and they reek "need more muneh" 😂

I mostly talk about lvl 10 runes

Namely the Super Mutants

[little berry]

Oh, you obviously wouldn't make those

[misty elm]

They are a disgrace

[little berry]

That'd signal a mental sickness

Tho Beijaflore will do it anyway

[misty elm]

Who? 😄

[little berry]

An absurdly rich player that has the stuff but no clue how to use it

[misty elm]

Ah, so the spoiled kind

[tall cedar]

Rv

[misty elm]

checking right now

[tall cedar]

checks and jumps off the roof

[little berry]

Ive seen Thalassa with strength on his part

[misty elm]

😮

😮

😮

With no damaging moves, right? 😂

[little berry]

One, Arctic Waves

[misty elm]

Such damage

[tall cedar]

I've seen saulot with strength runes, not from him tho. One of his teammate's

[misty elm]

🤐

[little berry]

I mean

That can... Kinda work I guess? He can hit like, 4/10

[misty elm]

Well, let's say it's not the best for him

Saulot is about dots and possession

[little berry]

Anyyyway

Wangzhou can win on his own. If tortures land, that is. Like... Curse, drowned, nightmares. It hurts, and it sucks stamina right after relics refill it making then obsolete

[misty elm]

SaulothasnothingtodowithWarmastersandNemesismonsterssobacktotopic 😂

[little berry]

Ooooh

I forgot

We're here

[misty elm]

Wang is all about stamina drain and he's good against relics too

[little berry]

Wangzhou is the warmaster

Of stamina 👌

[river laurel]

Thanks so much for your help everyone! Couldn’t have beaten it without all your help 😁

[tall cedar]

[fleet oriole]

@misty elm how much money do you spend on nemesis’s 😮

[barren arch]

Billy, I’m so pleased for you. 🎆🎇😃

[misty elm]

@fleet oriole don't know the exact value in dollars, but I bought 4 single chests.

[hot stream]

i got down to 1v1 al canine elvira

anything i can change?

[misty elm]

Those Al Canine runes ...

Right now he should use 3 x Speed+Life

[hot stream]

i dont have speed + life

and thats prob the worst runes he could have

no point in him going first

[misty elm]

Well, against that team, yes, but free unequip is for 2 weeks only

[native rapids]

I can't defeat this team plz your suggestions ty

[real wasp]

U need a monster to remove positive status effects

Otherwise u need to be extremely lucky to beat it with this team

[native rapids]

Don't have any other rank1 light 😩

Shall I change any rune ?

[real wasp]

Hmmm

Try some life runes

On kaori

And taiga

2 ts 1 life rune on kaori

[native rapids]

Ok

[real wasp]

And 1 life 2 str on taiga

Try and do the buff skill on taiga

That helps a lot

If u can

Where he gets double damage and evasion

[misty elm]

Camouflage, not Evasion

[real wasp]

Yeah

Forgot that name

🤔😂

[misty elm]

It ignores damage only, not effects

[real wasp]

Yeah i know

[native rapids]

Life worked ty i got Elvira

[turbid haven]

Hey people is discount on orbs depends on login or it comes at certain times

[misty elm]

It depends on where you live, but they are fixed.

[crystal vigil]

I'm pretty sure it doesn't anymore

It used to be that it depends on where you live but now they're all for everyone

[misty elm]

Okay then

[turbid haven]

So will it come on certain time for everyone or individually?

[tame beacon]

It’s the same time for everyone

[turbid haven]

Is there any way of knowing...I lack 60 orbs and on final node of floor 2

Of alvira

[tame beacon]

Some other servers ping you when they’re on, but not this one I’m afraid.

Going by the usual pattern though, I expect one in 1-2 hours

[turbid haven]

I bought some anyways....lol this is tough...help me on it

[fleet oriole]

swap the speed on kaori for ts

[turbid haven]

Which runes should I do

Team speed?

Is it OK?

Damnnnnn lol it's tooo dificult

[crystal vigil]

Make al go after all or most of the enemy team

[turbid haven]

They have immunity to control effect

[crystal vigil]

Al has AoE cooldowns activated

[real wasp]

Just try to do taigas buff move

Where he gets camoflage

Or whats it called

[little berry]

Ready To Hunt

Or something

[real wasp]

Yh

[crystal vigil]

If both your al and taiga survive the first turn i think you pretty much win

[fleet oriole]

yeah

run like double life on your al and one speed

i beat it with demise and taiga by using turn transfer into taiga then using ready to hunt so he already had camo so by the time all there turns were done he still had double dmg ez pz

[turbid haven]

I won thanks to dlts ....thank u for advices I got alvira

[little berry]

Congrats 👏 👏 👏

[hot stream]

https://gyazo.com/1eee058e2219334b8847711a4fbbe7fe

with this team

artifact nodes were actually harder than elvira

[silver tulip]

what do you guys think of giving gortak and strength, life rune

VII

[turbid haven]

@hot streamwait ure kidding right

[misty elm]

@silver tulip go ahead and try it

[proud pewter]

How did you guys beat the last nod of warmaster thalassa floor 2? I am using general thetys, ledovech and nautilus-01.

[real wasp]

Done floor 4

On sherezar dungeon

[barren arch]

Fab.

[real wasp]

Thanks

[small thorn]

What happens when i use 40 orb and lose? Do i have to unlock it again?

[tame beacon]

Nope, just costs 1 stamina to try again

[small thorn]

Oh good

Thanks

[hot stream]

@turbid haven Im serious, free rune change helped and it took a few tries

[small thorn]

How much orb is needed for unranked warmaster?

[tame beacon]

2300

[small thorn]

OK thanks

[tame beacon]

No problem 😃

[little berry]

Does anyone know how much orbs it costs for a r2 Warmaster?

[little berry]

Thank u

[real wasp]

8200

I guess u figured it out.

[silver tulip]

how would i want to go about beating the last 8 nodes of gortak's dungeon with r1 buro, warrior, musu, primi 😅

[kind crane]

Pray

[silver tulip]

ive just been trying it over and over, each node, trying to get good debuffs

[swift epoch]

o

[little berry]

What skill should I run on my base Talos?

[swift epoch]

you have stam rune on him?

[little berry]

Ye

Rn he has

[swift epoch]

then might as well use talos is the sun

[little berry]

Hmm Okie dokie

Thanks u

[native rapids]

After Elvira which is good warmaster

[little berry]

@little berry You need the Metallic Shrapnell though.

[fleet oriole]

@native rapids Are you looking for another R0 or are you looking to rank up the WM?

[hot stream]

why would he rank elvira

after elvira get ragnorak

other good options at r0 are sherezar/remntar

you can decide by looking at which books you are weak in

[native rapids]

@fleet oriole another warmaster I can't rankup so soon

[fleet oriole]

@hot stream i meant get another wm ranked up smh

and elvira is still perfectly fine after getting ranked up. it just makes her more of a damage dealer rather then just a status caster

[hot stream]

oh my bad i cant read just woke up

but i disagree with ranking elvira unless you have majority of other wms

at a high rank

[fleet oriole]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

either way thats not what i asked

[native rapids]

So which warmaster next?

[hot stream]

ahaha

can u read my messages?

[native rapids]

Ragnarock and Sheerazar

[hot stream]

i got elvira 2 days ago and sherezar today

getting ragnorak next

[native rapids]

How much coin need for 100cell

[hot stream]

2300 orbs

[native rapids]

😩 After getting Elvira I am 1ooo0rbs

For Ragnarock I can use any legends ?

[hot stream]

no

[native rapids]

Cuz for Sherezar magic legend I still to rankup

[compact gazelle]

Please just give real free player 80 cells nemesis, VIP, team battleground exclusive, just 1 random monster cells each type.

[celest wraith]

@compact gazelle that would be great, but we are talking about sp here. so be grateful with treasure cave :XD

[river laurel]

Runes for Remntar and Elvira?

[little berry]

for elvira are many combinations

[river laurel]

@little berry Most useful one?

[little berry]

uhh

🤷

woops deleted something instead of clicking on edit lol

[kind crane]

[river laurel]

Okay thanks. And one for Remntar?

[fleet oriole]

remntar is like or or : or

[real wasp]

For remntar

Damage not that good

[fickle acorn]

I use

[little berry]

id use

[fleet oriole]

same tbh

[little berry]

damage can save you sometimes

[real wasp]

All ts is great also

[little berry]

depends..

[fickle acorn]

Remntar is hardly a monster to be used to deal damage.

As its main purpose at least.

[little berry]

🤷

[gilded coyote]

Remmy gets the

Mine anyways

[real wasp]

Single health better imo

[hasty dock]

Rune setups for WMs vary across levels

If they are 100, I find Remntar and Elvira very handy with

[native rapids]

Many say team speed not good for Elvira

[little berry]

Group 4 skills for Sherezar please

@little berry Like... You don't know them or..?

I wanna know what i get for rank 3

You'll get Rejuvenation

Lol

And that's... Eh

Better stop at R2 if you're not getting to R4.

Do you have the skills with describtion

Have? No, my Sherezar is hatching & wiki is broken but I remember them and can tell you.

I'm actually not sure i have him 105 and I like ragnarok

[crystal vigil]

r3 skill for sherezar: AoE 50 dmg, team cooldowns deactivated

r2 skill for sherezar: AoE CDA

r1 skill for sherezar: one ally protect positive+random positive effect

[little berry]

Thanks Dori

R4 is the Random Spellbook. AOE 20 dmg + random control + random torture + AOA random buff. A bit hard to get though.

Also a tad expensive.

I just started buying orbs when i see them on sale and after the race i will be at 9000 orbs still a long way

It's good to have a specific target/goal.
I feel so secure in the magic element that I don't feel the need to rank Sherezar now. I'll do it after my Zahra is maxed out 😂 She just... needs it, y'know? Necro does his job at 110 so no need to pursue him for now

Ragnarok it is

I will go for him

6 books... Yeah, he's great in that regard. I have one issue with him. He's hardened... And has no control resistance. He's easy to... Well.

How do you filter search for him lol

When he is 100 it's gonna be hard to find him among all my 100 legendaries lol

That's the worst part. You can't. If you have a lot of Ls, finding him is a pain.

I do. we are both COLLECTORS 😂

Yup yup 😂 Searching Ragnarok for 10 minutes

There should be a book filter that would make it a bit better

Or search by names

User names or real

Hmm

Both?

So that when I type in Frostwrath or KoolAidDraggo both would show him to me

He's 115. I hardly ever use him. Sad

It's cool but you know it's not gonna happen lol

But he's just sooo adorable I couldn't resist ranking him up

Well it did happen it Dragon City

kinda

Don't mention that game it hurts

Yeah, it's been murdered

I still remember breeding the Legacy Dragon from the Cool Fire and Gummy dragons... And the Legacy Dragon was called the Legendary Dragon... Ahh..

Anyway, back on topic, Llum is beautiful and Sherezar is kinda cute with those eyes and that smile of his

Yea i just hope what happened to DC don't happen to ML the worst part was the new art style. The old dragons look so much better to me

My last off topic msg

Thankfully, in ML it's all improvement. They wouldn't kill their most successful game

ML was made 2 years after DC and it was literally a better version; superior in every way. Even the theme - Dragons are quite specific, while monsters... Anything can be a monster. No limitations here

Aaaaaand yes, Samael and Necromancer are both so amazing!

But that didn't stop them from making Poo dragon 😂

😂 👌

A walking, winged turd. Astonishing

Alright man thanks for the sherezar skills 😉 gtg now ttyl

See you around 😄

[stoic path]

Is it worth to use elementiums just for nemesis survival dungeons?

[little berry]

yes

[lapis current]

whats ragnorak dungeons again

like elemental dungeons

[little berry]

rules?

[lapis current]

ye

whats after the fire one

[little berry]

earth

one sec

[lapis current]

do u think i can complete the fire one

with just a 115 cain and sunblast

[little berry]

Ragnarok floor requirements:
Floor 1: Any Nature, grants 40 cells, costs 800 orbs
Floor 2: Any Earth (Rank 1), grants 60 cells, costs 1500 orbs
Floor 3: Any Thunder (Rank 2), grants 120 cells, costs 2400 orbs
Floor 4: Any Fire (Rank 3), grants 150 cells. costs 3500 orbs
Floor 5: Any Metal (Ranik 4), grants 290 cells, costs 4800 orbs
Floor 6: Any Magic (Rank 5), grants 1100 cells, costs 6750 orbs

[lapis current]

cheers

[little berry]

[lapis current]

ah its metal

man rank 4 metals

i have none zz

[little berry]

:(

[lapis current]

hopefully a rank 4 brutalis haha

on 24 laps now

[little berry]

:+1:

lap 31 here

or more 🤷

[lapis current]

does it get progressively harder

by a lot?

[little berry]

the DYP quests get

and OFAs

rest is easy

[lapis current]

fairs\

btw

115 cain and sunblast

think its enuf to complete?

[little berry]

no lol

[lapis current]

mann really?

[little berry]

if u can get cain from the maze

and rank with ele

that is possible

[lapis current]

hmm what maze

[little berry]

MoP

[lapis current]

u mean rank to 120?

[little berry]

after the race most probablu

no, rank 3

[lapis current]

ooo new maze

[little berry]

yes

[lapis current]

as in i already have 115 cain and sunblast

thats rank 3

[little berry]

with talika bella baal cain and an unknown monster

yes

u can get your hands on a 2nd cain

[lapis current]

ooo

so 2 level 115 cains haha

[little berry]

yes hahaa

[lapis current]

wheres the info about this maze

[little berry]

good luck

on taringa

[lapis current]

cant find on taringa

what do u search haha

[little berry]

ill dm u a ss

[lapis current]

okay thx

[little berry]

[stoic path]

When should be nemesis survival dungeon?

[turbid haven]

@stoic pathwow a nemesis dungeon... seriously?

[kind crane]

Survival* not cell

[wide python]

oki we dont know 😜

we can guess, we can ask but we dont know

[silent cargo]

What's wrong with mentioning a nemesis cell dungeon? They're not coming back?

[brittle hemlock]

3@silent cargo no, this was said in december.

"now is the time of the warmasters"

[silent cargo]

Aw maaan

[stoic path]

Maybe warmaster survival dungeon?

I wonder because if I rank up my nemesises I will waste elementiums

If there won't be another survival dungeon

[brittle hemlock]

no more cell dungeons, that's established

and people will throw a fit at wm srvival dungeons. that's p2w exclusive

[swift epoch]

at least f2ps can get a WM

[stoic path]

Cell - yes. But there are also survival with diamond relic prize

[little berry]

there are

[silver tulip]

Finally! After dozens of retrys

Burrito OP

[little berry]

Congrats 👏 👏 👏

[half bronze]

Whats the best warmaster to get first?

[polar valve]

thalassa, elvira or sherezar

go with your best squad and make sure to get one of them

• cues " Hello darkness, my old friend" *

[fleet oriole]

though i'd like to add that all of them are good

in their own way

like if you dont have ranked up water, light or magics but have ranked up earths. Gortak is still really good

[signal mortar]

Anyone k ow what element cells you get on third floor of ragnarok dungeon?

[little berry]

the elements that the dungeons rule are

i.g. if the rule is 3 magic, u get magic cells

[little berry]

What skill is better for Warthak The Sunbringer?

[kind crane]

<-

[high nest]

Just got him today

Level 7 Life Rune + 2 Level 7 Strengh Runes

[kind crane]

Wow

Omg

What a haul

[silver tulip]

What should i rune my r0 gortak? including mutants

[real wasp]

If u want as support
Or attacker

U choose

For mutants u figure it out urself

What u like to add

[stoic path]

Is it enough to have 115 talos forgotten artifact , nadiel deforestator 105 , hidratila boltcaster 105 to pass all nemesis survival dungeon?

Runes 9-10 lvl

• 2 diamond relics, taigatrap and baltasar mask, + all gold relics

[tall cedar]

Nadiel deforestator isn't a denier I think

[honest tundra]

Can someone help me choose the runes for my ranked light monsters I am trying to beat Elvira's path I was up to the 2 map near the end where you start getting 4 cells

[stoic path]

@tall cedar so who can be a denier from this list? Or just make a tank from nadiel without any denier

@tall cedar nadiel can use relic which removes stamina + -100% damage

[stoic path]

I can also rank them up using elementiums

[tall cedar]

Removing stamina often leads to ult. So you need like a better controller

Because the warthak node will be a trouble for you

And maybe that ruby samael and hydratila node too

[stoic path]

I have only additional attacker - earth nemesis (also weakest of three)

No more nemesis...

[tall cedar]

Talos can hack the main denier but if the node has 2 or more deniers it can be a difficulty

[little berry]

Out of Nadiel, Llum, Faraday and Hydratilla, which variant should I be hoping for? I'm planning on buying them next Nemesis Day.

[kind crane]

You’re buying them all?

I wouldn’t go for hydratila for first

And depends what ya need

[little berry]

That makes sense, I'll probably be getting Faraday & Llum first then.

Which variant would be best?

[kind crane]

Discharguer is better imo for fara. Obscure ain’t bad tho

For llum both MM and IL are solid. Just depends if ya want hitter or denier

[inland trail]

MM is a lot better than IL overall

[kind crane]

IL is obvs class hitter. As . Superior option

But if you’re after a denier MM

[inland trail]

[river laurel]

Hey guys,best r0 wm? Got Remntar and Elvira,not going after Ragnarok. Any suggestions would be very helpful 😃

[inland trail]

Elvira is the best at R0

[river laurel]

@inland trail Lol yeah lots of people keep saying that,which is why I got her. Are there any others?

[kind crane]

My Nan

[dreamy rock]

Well you have the best and one of the best at 100

[inland trail]

^

[dreamy rock]

Rag is good for next one
Then try and get Rag rank 1 imo

His rank 1 skill is sooo good

[kind crane]

Shezza is second best at 100

[inland trail]

Gortak

[river laurel]

Could Thalassa/Necromancer be challengers for 3rd best?

[dreamy rock]

You could also go for Babari
Babari+Dunn ra are 👍

[inland trail]

Babari isn't that good though

Thalassa is great at 100 too, necro is decent

[fleet oriole]

Sammy or Faraday?