monster-discussion

[misty elm]

She's a great denier at 105 and becomes OP at 120

[little berry]

A lvl 90 frosilka will probably own her at 105

[inland trail]

Lv 110 frosilika owns any denier at 130 except thalassa
I know this since a teammate has her at 110, that's a terrible way to judge a monster BTW

[misty elm]

Well, I never saw a Frosilka in pvp (or wars) yet

[inland trail]

She was hard to get so very rare

[misty elm]

Yes, she was

[little berry]

Frosilka will be available soon. Then you'll see him in war

[misty elm]

For real money ...

[little berry]

Her*

[inland trail]

We won't be seeing her since she'll be at 100

[misty elm]

Also Dodge is not a big deal, I can always kill a Shademoon easily (without removing the effect)

[little berry]

No. You'll get him since he's f2p..
They share books.
The fact you only need an unranked frosilka to beat all thalassas that are up to rank 2 is a bealbreaker for a wm

[misty elm]

She'll be in a chest for real money ...

[inland trail]

I mean thalassa isn't the main water denier at our level but OK

[little berry]

Her* Frosilika is a lady. Psi

[kind crane]

Probs Kihaku still

[misty elm]

Yes, it's explicitly stated that Frosilka is a girl

[little berry]

It's a him but ok

[inland trail]

Kihaku and thetys

[misty elm]

"Frosilka was Head of the Royal Guard while Thetys was the Queen of the Water Realms. Stronger than Thetys and extremely loyal to her, she was outstanding at her job, but when Thalassa came back, Frosilka couldn’t stand serving another queen, so she quit. Now she’s devoted to helping Thetys seize power from her mother!"

she

[little berry]

Typo

[inland trail]

Sure...

[misty elm]

The official description is not official, then?

[little berry]

Ok Psi, whatever you say.

[inland trail]

~~No @misty elm, Psi is always right ~~

[misty elm]

You sound like those people on twitter, who see one thing and that's the fact

While evidence suggest else

[kind crane]

Thetys 🤮

[misty elm]

(sorry, but Twitter made me angry)

[inland trail]

I'd rather use thetys on offense than thalassa if I'm facing 3 hardened+ with no stamina relics

[little berry]

banners don't exist

[misty elm]

[inland trail]

Especially since the special change
I said with no stamina relics

[little berry]

In a parallel universe relics don't eggsist

[misty elm]

Well, my teammate dominates 130 WM's with her Thetys, so she's still relevant 😄

[inland trail]

I killed sherezar with thetys too

Not everyone runs stamina relics all the time Psi

[misty elm]

Okay, Charmless helps, but still, Thetys has the speed runes 😄

[kind crane]

Depends if ya pair Thalassa with a Shezza

[inland trail]

Thalassa can't add stamina either, and best relic for her is supercharged amulet

[misty elm]

Thalassa adds double stamina at the start ...

[little berry]

[inland trail]

SD is a 100% drain though, doesn't matter

[misty elm]

True

[little berry]

Thalassa supercharged amulet??

[misty elm]

Noo 😄

[inland trail]

Do you even know the best skillet for her?

[little berry]

That's probably the worst relic for her

[inland trail]

With it she can disable the trait of 2 monsters, remove positive from all and give freeze hater to both of your teammates

So 2 monsters are surely denied

But guess you don't know the best skillset for her...

[little berry]

There's frostbite amulet

[inland trail]

She's not supposed to have any damage moves though

[little berry]

So?

[inland trail]

So the amulet won't activate

[little berry]

🤔

[inland trail]

It activates after hitting, and she can't hit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8rXmjEAx9A - Perfect example of how to use her

But now she can't miss on trait disabled monsters, back then the % was 98%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOq0Wk-VwPI - Another good example, next time you say sherezar > thalassa remember this

[mortal bay]

Thalassa can deny almost any defence set up possible with ease, Sherezar can't

[inland trail]

Exactly

[little berry]

Wait what?

Thalassa can't remove Elvira's evasion from all enemies only one :GWpaboaWeSmart:

[mortal bay]

She can...

I mean

There's video evidence right there

[inland trail]

Just watch the video

[little berry]

OK I will watch it

[inland trail]

I feel like a lot here who say sherezar > thalassa don't know how to use her properly

[little berry]

Wait a second

🤷 just use her hitting move to trigger the relic

[inland trail]

That's the wrong skillset

[little berry]

Who the heck have rank 5 Thalassa

[mortal bay]

If you run a damage skill on thalassa you're doing it wrong

[misty elm]

@little berry Like everybody in L3+ 😄

Even in L4 I see a lot

[little berry]

Why is it wrong?

Man

[inland trail]

Did you watch the vids @little berry?

[mortal bay]

The delayed response indicates hes actually going to watch the video

[ember plume]

Thallasa is just too insane

It can like cycle the remove negative effects 2 times

Then use abyss bottom

[little berry]

Well tbh at rank 5 Thalassa is surely better than Sherezar

I was talking about lower rank

[misty elm]

Like better than any monster 😄

[ember plume]

at rank 2

It's also better

[little berry]

At rank 2 Sherezar is actually better

[misty elm]

I agree

[ember plume]

No

It can apply megafreeze

Like 2 times

[mortal bay]

R2 I'd agree, but that's not the whole monster

[ember plume]

If you have the amulet

[mortal bay]

Picking 1 singular instance isn't enough to justify being better

[ember plume]

🤔

[little berry]

You can shut down rank 1/2 Thalassa by rank 0 Thalassa 😂

[inland trail]

At R2 I agree, sherezar is better
But at R3+ thalassa is a lot better

[little berry]

Yee

That light spirit survived :GWqlabsHyperSweats:

[inland trail]

Light spirit was just the example of how broken thalassa can be

[ember plume]

Rank 0 thallada

[little berry]

She can in effect do like 50k aoe by using the hitting skill. So idk why that's a bad thing🤷

[ember plume]

Can't touch a rank 2/3thallasa

No trait disable

[mortal bay]

Because she's not a damage dealer

It's not difficult to understand

[ember plume]

0 damage skills have a 98 percent

[misty elm]

Most Thalassa sets doesn't even have a damaging move

[mortal bay]

Really basic stuff

[little berry]

How much you need to get a rank 5 warmaster tho

[ember plume]

Accuracy

[inland trail]

OK Psi you're either a troll, or not a smart player... Or both

[misty elm]

No, they are actually 100%

[mortal bay]

It's just over 200bucks

For a r5

[inland trail]

@ember plume that's changed to 100 now

[ember plume]

Oh

Th for the info

Ty(

[little berry]

Skills with damage misses more than without damage
I guess

[inland trail]

Yes

[ember plume]

^

[misty elm]

Yami, you can save up your orbs for free, it just takes longer 😄

[mortal bay]

Duh

[ember plume]

A lot longer

[misty elm]

A lot longer

[little berry]

I don't have even 30 bucks

[mortal bay]

But the orb cost is about 200 bucks +

[ember plume]

Andrej doubt

[inland trail]

I need like 800 for a R3 thalassa, f2p
Also got necro, otherwise would've had her by now

[ember plume]

Does cda for timerion and dm miss?

It does no damage

[mortal bay]

It doesn't miss

[inland trail]

No

[misty elm]

It should not, but sometimes it does ...

[ember plume]

Oml

[mortal bay]

Question Andrej

[ember plume]

That makes dm and timerion better

:GWpaboaTrump:

[misty elm]

And Sherezar

[mortal bay]

Is cda affected by traits like tough ?

[ember plume]

No

[inland trail]

Pretty sure it's not

[misty elm]

It's not a negative effect

[ember plume]

Definitely not

[mortal bay]

That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure

[ember plume]

I always target bulwark monsters with cda

[misty elm]

Only Evasion blocks it

[ember plume]

Yes

[inland trail]

Or accuracy decrease

[ember plume]

And cda protect

[misty elm]

And CD Protection of course

[little berry]

Dodge Area also blocks AoE CDA.

[ember plume]

:GWpingKanyeLUL:

[misty elm]

Only the AOE

That's why I love Al Canine 😃

[ember plume]

Shademoon:GWaobaPePeCry:

:GWqlabsThonkery:

[misty elm]

And Sunblast has both AOE and single CDA

[ember plume]

Wm discussion..

Wrong topic?

[misty elm]

Sherezar has AOE CDA

[ember plume]

:GWqlabsHyperRage:

[misty elm]

Just comparing these monsters

[inland trail]

[misty elm]

Just a tip, we can't see those emotes 😄

[inland trail]

[misty elm]

Not you

[inland trail]

[mortal bay]

:GWqlabsSpyEyes:

[misty elm]

[mortal bay]

:GWqlabsThinkLol:

:GWqlabsThinkBan:

[misty elm]

Nothing, only text

[mortal bay]

😾

[misty elm]

👻

[inland trail]

[misty elm]

Okay, stop 😄 Sonnorcter, please purge this chat 😄

[mortal bay]

:GWqlabsYaoLUL:

[inland trail]

[misty elm]

(also 17 devs online, 😃 )

[mortal bay]

New faces

[inland trail]

Who is Vermut?? Never saw them before

[misty elm]

I swear I saw a Kihaku dev earlier 😄

@inland trail that's a kind of wine, i think

[inland trail]

Just googled it
It is a wine

[misty elm]

An aromatized, fortified white wine flavored with various botanicals

[inland trail]

Actual on topic question, what WM should I get after getting thalassa to 120 and necro to 110?

[misty elm]

the one you need

Ragnarok is super versatile

[mortal bay]

Elvira

[misty elm]

Or that

I think I'll make Necro rank 2 next

[mortal bay]

Remntar

Sherezar

[inland trail]

I was thinking remntar for the special protection

[little berry]

Discard a 50k aoe coz she's not a damage dealer? 🙄

[inland trail]

And relic slots

[little berry]

Hey Yami

[mortal bay]

Hi frost

And yes Psi

[misty elm]

@little berry yes, because other skills are better

[mortal bay]

Because the attacker will do double that damage

[little berry]

hey guys

[misty elm]

Or even triple

[little berry]

Finally got the worst warmaster :GWmythiFeelsBannedMan:

[mortal bay]

Oof

[little berry]

[misty elm]

He's good

[little berry]

ill get babari next week

That doesn't make sense. It's like you dont want the match to end

[misty elm]

But not the best, yes

[little berry]

Ik
I tried for him before all the warmasters got released
So uh I might try for ramnter or Elvira

[mortal bay]

Elvira first

[misty elm]

if you want them at 100, Elvira is the best by far

[mortal bay]

By far the best unranked

[misty elm]

You can even make her a supporting attacker

[little berry]

Oh ok
I have Al canine rank 1 and Esthrial rank 2
Just need to rank Arch knight and I will get her

[misty elm]

Go for it

Archie is easy to rank

Well, relatively easy 😄

[little berry]

U dont need an attacker.. 🤷

6 TS

Really?

[misty elm]

No ...

Al Canine Esthirel Arch Knight /

The dungeons are easy, yes, but not that easy

[little berry]

I'm talking about thalassa with frosbites amulet and 6 ts

[misty elm]

Oh

[mortal bay]

An attacker with 3ts yes

[little berry]

Denier or some buffer is enuf.

[misty elm]

BTW next Nemesis dungeon team: Xiron the Ruby Samael the Fever Scatterer Warthak the Mountainspitter

Is it good?

All of them at rank 3 at least

[inland trail]

Fever is either 3 ts or 2 ts 1 life in that setup

[mortal bay]

Team life doesn't work in the nemesis dungeons

[misty elm]

Oh right

[mortal bay]

Not properly anyway

[misty elm]

I forgot

Then or ?

I'm thinking on the life

[mortal bay]

Single life

[inland trail]

Oh yes, life doesn't work properly either (doesn't add the extra life of the rune guardian)

[misty elm]

sigh

Or I could try Samael with full speed to transfer to Warthak

[inland trail]

I got 115 nemeses too, had to change runesets a few times

[misty elm]

Well, that's not going to happen 😄 I'm poor in gems 😄

Only 106 right now, because of Growth Spurt

Still waiting for my 397 gems from Lords Mobile ...

[inland trail]

You get 45 from the dungeon though

I had like 62 prior to doing it

[misty elm]

Nemesis dungeon?

[inland trail]

Yes

[misty elm]

Only got 15

I wrote "next Nemesis dungeon team" 😄

Right now I could only use Llum and Talos

[inland trail]

Oh

[misty elm]

The others are just cells right now 😄

But luckily I saved up a lot of Elementium and Elemental cells

[lime venture]

Imo you should set Sammy full ts Xiron full speed and Whartak is ok , that Whartak is the dark one?

[inland trail]

But you may have trouble on the thalassa node like that

[misty elm]

Yes, the dark and the normal one

[inland trail]

But Starkk's setup is fine

[mortal bay]

I expect nothing less from a glorious hound ;)

[misty elm]

But I'll use the dark one

Or I could throw in the Magic Llum

[lime venture]

Thalassa node you stop her with CDA than extra turn double damage on Whartak and kill them

[inland trail]

It has faraday though, without shields/healing skills/relics it could cause trouble

But you should be able to heal on the following nodes

[misty elm]

At least I have good relics

[mortal bay]

Which faraday ?

Thunder right?

[inland trail]

Yes

[mortal bay]

Don't worry

[misty elm]

Tenacity for Samael, Atum's Armor, Solaris Sword, cane of the Atlantis

[mortal bay]

He never attacks warthak

[inland trail]

You're good then
Nice relics

[misty elm]

Not fully lvl-ed, though

[inland trail]

Still

[mortal bay]

Every time I've done that dungeon with sammy into warthak, the faraday always hits my ts nadiel

[misty elm]

Also maxed healing Mask for Xiron

[mortal bay]

Is warthak a lower level than the rest ?

Faraday prioritises the lowest level monster you have

[inland trail]

With Varenne I did PC into FS then FS into himself again on that node

[misty elm]

Hmmm, then I could save my monster by making him higher rank? I might have enough Earth cells to make Warthak rank 4

[inland trail]

You got those relics so should be good

[misty elm]

But why are we discussing this in the Warmaster channel, though? 😂

[inland trail]

Just heal on the next node if they break through the shields

[mortal bay]

Because you get orbs from that dungeon

[lime venture]

You should get it done easy Kihaku, drinking beers 😂😂

[mortal bay]

And orbs go into war masters

:GWqlabsThinkLol:

[misty elm]

True

The hardest one to rank will be Xiron (only 100 Magic cells)

[lime venture]

U can get that from races or in Sharezar dungeon, orbs for dungeon dungeon magic cell? Than rank up Xiron, spend elementium too is not crazy

[misty elm]

100 Magic cells, around 300 Dark cells and around 420 earth cells

(Necromancer and Gortak dungeons)

[lime venture]

Elementium?

[misty elm]

Around 600

Not enough to make them rank 3 right now, but later

[lime venture]

U need 370 for each one

Can find a guide for use mixed cells elemental/elementium in web

[misty elm]

Yeah, i have it

Just don't know where 😄

[lime venture]

So get 4 star with all it’ll get time but for next u will be ready, for food considering premium pass for one week

[misty elm]

Food is not a problem, I'm lvl 112

In fact I might save my rank 4 Sunblast for the next Growth Spurt event

[lime venture]

So just do it, first rank up relics to a good level shield CoA and armor , and shouldn’t have problems

[tall cedar]

using warthak isnt a problem but you might get blinded because electrolyzer uses aoe blind

[misty elm]

And it has 100% accuracy

[tall cedar]

made a vid on that node #ml-youtube

[fleet oriole]

Did someone say you can use elemental and elementium to rank up a monster?

[mortal bay]

Yes

[frozen crane]

preferably u would use those for nemesis monsters

[little berry]

[wide python]

elemental cells you need 80 original ones

[little berry]

For floor 4 in Thalassa, I have Stake and Nautilus at 3*, would Kihaku or Cryotan be better to get to 3* for this?

[crystal vigil]

Kihaku

[real wasp]

Both could do it

Cryotan is also great for tanking

With the taunt move i guess

[little berry]

I am going for warmaster remntar

[kind crane]

Good for you

[frozen crane]

Is samael plague able to solo wm necro's dungeon

[tall cedar]

depends on how you rune it

and relics

[ionic tinsel]

And rank

[stoic path]

Who is attacker (from warmasters)?

[little berry]

Gortak and Barbael

[crystal vigil]

Babari too

[misty elm]

Barbael is a control monster, officially stated by SP in the game

[kind crane]

Could run him as a hitter if you’re a maverick

[misty elm]

Well, yes, but it's a waste to run him like that

I mean he has 3 Total Blind skills, and there's no recently blinded effect ...

[kind crane]

Yeah but total blind is super meh

[inland trail]

He's also gonna face cain/greedy/shallinar who say lol to his total blind with their extra turns

[kind crane]

And majority of decent monsters have extra turn skills to deny it these days

Even succ zyla

[ancient surge]

i have 3 x speed runes on my warmaster Barbial

[patent sphinx]

Elvira also hits a punch if ranked

[frozen crane]

how good is elvira as a semi-attacker at unranked

[kind crane]

Meh

[little berry]

Is galante or violet breeding recepies ever going to get realesed?

why do u ask here, in #monster-discussion ..?

[fleet oriole]

how many orbs for 4th floor?

[little berry]

Orbs Required For Each Floor For Warmaster
1st floor 20x40 =800
2nd floor 25x60 = 1500
3rd floor 30x80 = 2400
4th floor 35x100=3500
5th floor 40x120=4800
6th floor 45x150=6750

[fleet oriole]

is 600-700 gems enough for 3k orbs?

[nocturne rover]

Should I get Warmaster Elvira as a first warmaster even though I already have Sammy PC? ( Just asking because they're both support)

Or should I go for another one

[little berry]

elvira or sherry

[mortal bay]

Elvira should be everyone first warmaster, especially if you cant rank them high up

[kind crane]

You could run Elvira as a hitter

And Sammy n Elvira ain’t in same element. Just in winged together

[fleet oriole]

@mortal bay I've already got Sherry R1. Should i go for Sherry R2 or Elvira R0?

[inland trail]

Sherezar at R2 @fleet oriole

[fleet oriole]

i thought so. As he gets strong at r2

[buoyant patio]

How?

[fleet oriole]

@inland trail should 600-700 gems be enough for 3k orbs

[buoyant patio]

Using elementium in your monsters?

@fleet oriole

[inland trail]

No clue, my main source of orbs is NSD, only bought about 200

[fleet oriole]

nsd?

@buoyant patio wdym?

[inland trail]

Nemesis survival dungeon

[fleet oriole]

ahh

[buoyant patio]

Like

[mortal bay]

Agree with Andrej

[fleet oriole]

and

[patent sphinx]

@fleet oriole you can calculate how many orbs/gems you need using this one https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1n6pZEEygIjh5KJ746ec8nStcsXKtpJsQySrIEzf3pp0/edit?usp=sharing

[fleet oriole]

115 Xiron or Sherry 110 on defence?

[buoyant patio]

Youre rankin up your monsters with elemenium right?

[inland trail]

Which xiron?

[fleet oriole]

ruby

[buoyant patio]

Pretty much the only way

[inland trail]

Ruby then

I'm only using ele on nemesis monsters

[buoyant patio]

Hmmmm

[fleet oriole]

same

[buoyant patio]

Do you already have the rank 3 monster then

Right?

[fleet oriole]

i thought it would be more tbf

[buoyant patio]

Only missiing the orbs

[inland trail]

Which R3 monster?

[fleet oriole]

semi all i need is like 20-30 more ele

but by the time i get the orbs from the discounts and everything i assume i can get 20-30 ele xD

[buoyant patio]

Dungeon

To

Beat the r2 sherezar dungeon

[inland trail]

Perfectly balanced monster here

[mortal bay]

Sherezar wouldn't pull that off

[little berry]

Treezard carried that battle

[tall cedar]

.< true

[kind crane]

Not true

Shezza and cain could beat that team easily

[fickle acorn]

I agree with Yami.

[mortal bay]

:GWqlabsSpyEyes:

You'd lose a coin

[kind crane]

I wish I could prove you wrong

[inland trail]

Point is, thalassa can pull it off against pretty much anyone

I'll do this more often and share more screenshots, so people realize that sherezar isn't close to her

[little berry]

So desperate

[inland trail]

[little berry]

Could you not have done this same thing with sherezar?

[mortal bay]

Nope

[little berry]

Why not

[mortal bay]

Because the common would have died

[little berry]

How so

[mortal bay]

From an attack....

Do you not know how to play the game ?

[fickle acorn]

From Cain breathing on it.

[little berry]

How will they attack?

[mortal bay]

CDA is useless because every monster has at least 1 0cd skill

Or

You risk a 50/50

[little berry]

Use his control skill

[mortal bay]

Are you stupid or choosing to ignore the part where I addressed that ?

[crystal vigil]

True vision
So not really a 50-50

[lunar belfry]

^

[crystal vigil]

But

Thalassa guaranteed denies for 2 turns

And guaranteed gives triple damage

[little berry]

What? I don't see you mention anything other than the cda

[mortal bay]

Forgot about that trait tbh

[lunar belfry]

but i think he forgot about true vision

[little berry]

Ridiculous reasoning yami

Thalassa have a chance to miss :GWaobloChildPepeHug:

[crystal vigil]

How?

[mortal bay]

Thalassa can't miss

[fleet oriole]

i have sherry and even i agree thalassa is so mcuh better lol

[little berry]

Oh

[crystal vigil]

Trait disable sammy and kihaku

[little berry]

Oh yeah her AoE freeze doesn't deal damage

Duh triple Sammy team :GWpaboaWeSmart:

[crystal vigil]

How can you have a triple sammy team

Wait nvm

[fleet oriole]

i've seen it

still tho

Thalssa is so much better

[crystal vigil]

Forgot about exclusive and legendary restrictions

[lunar belfry]

exclusive doesn't come in wars

[little berry]

Tbh I think better just for thalassa chosen
Just an opinion

[crystal vigil]

It now does

[mortal bay]

It is atm

[lunar belfry]

oh

:pepocry

i don't wanna see more nemesis'

[little berry]

One of dudes in ML amino said thalassa chosen is a bad skill :GWmythiFeelsBadMan:

[crystal vigil]

In fact it was a restriction in the war from which andrej's screenshot came

[lunar belfry]

i cri

[fickle acorn]

No cursing.

[little berry]

:/

[distant sapphire]

Ok folks, I have question...
Is there someplace to get a peak at the teams people have used to beat the higher level Warmaster levels?
I don’t really have a lot to work with at 4th and 5th Floor levels, but would love to know what folks who beat them used so I can work on it myself.

[patent sphinx]

Depends on which wm you’re aiming for

[distant sapphire]

Well, that’s kinda the thing...
It’d be cool to have a resource that shows “For Thalassa, this team worked well on Floor 5”, or “For Remntar, I used...”
Just a general knowledge base sort of thing.

For example, I would like to work on Thalassa (who wouldn’t?), and I currently only have 2 L Water that are 4 or 5 star, so to fill in the 3rd blank, who works good against the enemies at those higher levels, what kind of relics and such work well, all that.

Just thinking out loud. It’d be nice to have that readily available for the player base as a whole.

[nocturne rover]

Best light monsters for Elvira Dungeon?

[kind crane]

Llum the magical matriarch

Llum the iron leader

3rd spot. Light Sphinx

[little berry]

Who you got @nocturne rover

[nocturne rover]

I'm ranking Al Canine Up and that's about it ( got Arch knight at rank 1 but he's just useless)

I was planning on getting Lady Solaris at r1

But don't know If that's a good choice

[little berry]

No she's not worth it

May be craft a legend

[kind crane]

Hasai, Al, Bella

[haughty dragon]

Aye

Thalassa> Sherezar

Yes or No?

[real wasp]

For me its the other way around

[haughty dragon]

Ranked @ 130?

[real wasp]

Yh

I have almost sherezar at 110

Only waiting for his dungeon to come back

[dreamy rock]

Imo
Thallasa=Sherezar
That's just my opinion though😄

[real wasp]

Yh thats fair

Tbh 👍😉😊

They both extremely incredible

[inland trail]

Thalassa>>>>Sherezar... Do we need to pull off the attacks where commons were used next to thalassa again?

[real wasp]

So only that thing makes thalassa stronger ??

[mortal bay]

No, you're just too ignorant to understand basic logic

[real wasp]

Dude dont stick.. i dont wanna debate with you ....

[haughty dragon]

I would absolutely love to see that andrej thats so cool haha

[frozen crane]

pls no more thalassa vs sherezar the topic gives me brain damage

[little berry]

Thalassa VS Zahra

[inland trail]

Well @haughty dragon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOq0Wk-VwPI&feature=youtu.be

And

I need to do it more often, can't record unfortuanetley
But it's a lot of fun lol

[haughty dragon]

OOF

haha thats amazing

[little berry]

Thalassa>Sherezar because Thalassa saved the common 😑

uses pestilence trap

[inland trail]

We never said that

Just giving an example of how broken she is

[wide python]

Lets say that the best WM is the one you personally like the best the one that fits your playstile. I dont own a Thalassa because I dont like her but thats my personal opinion that doesnt mean she is bad it just means I dont like her

For the longest time I had no Ruby either not a fan of it either but maybe had a different reason 🤔

[barren arch]

But now! Ruby is Love 💕

😄

Maybe SP should upgrade monsters.

War Master Ruby. Set up for an upgrade. 😂

[inland trail]

Pls no, ruby is already OP

[wide python]

Now Ruby got a very different feeling its all about perception

I love my Ruby now 🍀

[barren arch]

Ha ha.

[kind crane]

I don’t like ruby

[little berry]

[kind crane]

Js

[wide python]

I did for the longest time luke, someone changed my mind

[barren arch]

That someone was Ruby! 🎆🎇💕

We just need to work on Thalassa with you Marianne now. 🤔

[inland trail]

I only like one thing about thalassa
I can safely use commons with her lol
But monsters which are so broken should've never existed

[kind crane]

I actually disagree tho. Like in tbg I can take down most bases 2v3. So can Thalassa

Like if I do Elvira/froggy against a ruby team I’ll win 🤷🏻‍♂️. That doesn’t make froggy op

[inland trail]

Ironically he is OP though

[kind crane]

Nah too many counters. Rune set makes denier too slow. Only works in certain situations

[inland trail]

In pvp maybe, you're at a huge desadvantage without him in war

[kind crane]

I don’t use him in war

Makes my denier too slow

[inland trail]

I don't use him because I haven't hatched him lol
But he's the best nature by far

[little berry]

Why don't you hatch him?

[kind crane]

Nadiel 🙊

[inland trail]

Charmless>>>>nadiel

This comes from someone who can use R5 pyros too

[ionic tinsel]

Ruby is such a good attacker

55 damage aoe with ignite

Amazing team speed holder

Amazing all speed

Ruby with buff would be busted

[inland trail]

Ruby is amazing with any combination of (team) speed and strength, can actually work very nicely as an attacker

[ionic tinsel]

Yes

[wide python]

Lol i know i added to this maybe its time to change the name of this channel suggestions?

Warmaster and Nemesis discussion?

[mortal bay]

P2w channel

[delicate jasper]

:v

Emm the best warmasters elvira, ragnarok, shererar and thalasaa

And the best némesis Xiron the ruby, farady the type earth, nadiel of fire, talos of magic, samael with attcks of metal

[little berry]

@wide python Or a whole new nemesis discussion channel?

[wide python]

we dont want to much channels

[little berry]

Oh well, splice it with this one, then. People often discuss the Nemeses here anyways

[wide python]

thats what I thought to

[ionic tinsel]

That’s actually genesis nice idea Mari

[inland trail]

Perfectley balanced

Now you know why Contrived quit

If you didn't know before

[fleet oriole]

wut

oof all ts on barb

@inland trail May i ask how you got all of your X runes & Diamond relics?

[inland trail]

Not my acc

But even my acc has a bunch of diamond relics, from NSD

[fleet oriole]

oof

So should i spend money on nemesis's if anything?

[inland trail]

I'd rather spend on WMs nowdays if I was p2w
Not as good as nemesis but at least you know what you're getting, and they're on par/better than nemesis monsters when paired together

[fleet oriole]

mhm.

just like

20$ worth of gems is 1.7k orbs ish

[fleet oriole]

hmm

4.5 max gem packs is 225$ doe

and i have no r5 monsters and only one r4 (which is goldfield omegalul) so the most im gonna be getting is r2 wm's

i spend like 0-30$ a month on this game depending on how im feeling or what i have spare etc

so i could lets say buy a 50$ chest once every few months etc and boom

nemesis dungeons give me a dia relic + 2k orbs boom

[patent sphinx]

You can’t go though nemesis dungeon with 1 unranked nemesis tho

[inland trail]

You need some high ranked OP monsters

[patent sphinx]

Prob it’s not really possible with 3 unranked nemesis

[fleet oriole]

i have a 110 Ruby that i can get to 115 like really soon

[inland trail]

There are nodes where ruby is hardly useful

[fleet oriole]

oof

nani ruby cant hard carry me??

[inland trail]

No

[fleet oriole]

thats suprising

[inland trail]

There are CDA/Control immunity nodes/monsters

[patent sphinx]

Cda+ stun node
Artifacts node (although doable with ruby with ranked jasastur mask)

[inland trail]

Thalassa node too

[fleet oriole]

o o f

[inland trail]

You gotta do single CDA on thalassa and the other two kill you

[fleet oriole]

hmm

what if the first chest i bought was faraday

so i got a turn from thalassa's extra turn

[patent sphinx]

Then they all are faster than you

Thalassa can trait disable

[fleet oriole]

is the ai that smart

[inland trail]

Yes

[patent sphinx]

I don’t know tbh lol

[inland trail]

From my experience it's OK

[patent sphinx]

I either one shot or miss and get ulted

[inland trail]

Not the smartest, but knows what it's doing sometimes lol

[fleet oriole]

lol

hmm

and its survival so if i die i die

well Thalassa node. i could run 6 TS + 3 Speed?

[patent sphinx]

Faraday and talos

[inland trail]

2 str 1 ts

[patent sphinx]

They all are immune to control and this node has 2 hitters iirc

[tall cedar]

Just turn transfer to your attacker and otk

Without faraday, thalassa will trait disable and deny all

Watch my video in #ml-youtube

If you are using faraday, thalassa will use abyss bottom on faraday

Imo , the ideal team to use is nadiel samael and faraday. Only for that gortak node, where you have to use any other attacker than faraday

[inland trail]

I use warthak on that one, but talos works too, especially with jazzy mask so he can drain faraday

[patent sphinx]

I'm boring so I use sammy to turn transfer into faraday who one shots everything
CDA node is tricky but tenacity shields stacking + some 0-1cd damage moves help

[fleet oriole]

@tall cedar so what you recommend straight buying orbs or nemesis chests? If so which chests

[little berry]

Chests are mostly a miss and sometimes a hit

Imo not worth it

[fleet oriole]

i'd buy the 50$ one's

and i'd be going for Warthak or Faraday or Sammy

[pine cosmos]

Sammy is still the best support in the game, Faraday and Warthak, very little between them. Anticipation is a big bonus for Faraday helping counter Thalassa but he's susceptible to control and under possession can nuke his own team. Warthak on the other hand has a debuff skill, shield breakers and can't be controlled. It's a matter of opinion and depends on what you want.
Personally I prefer Warthak but either of them are fantastic.

[distant sapphire]

What would generally be the best runes for a 105 Sherezar?

[little berry]

I think

[fleet oriole]

^

Sherry is ts until 110

personally i wouldn't use his 105 skill either

tho that might just be me ahaha

[distant sapphire]

Cool. Thanks. 😁

[little berry]

her skills?

isnt sherry a he?

[fickle acorn]

Yes.

[little berry]

hehe

[distant sapphire]

Which skill is the 105 skill (the wiki is still not updated!)?

[little berry]

Of course it's a she

It’s a he @little berry

In his description it said that it’s a boy multiple times

Psi is going to say it's a typo I bet

[wide python]

@distant sapphire https://monsterlegends.fandom.com/wiki/Warmaster_Sherezar

[little berry]

How can they make the same typo 5 times lol

It’s obviously a boy

🤷

Ask Psi

The ponytail and other indications. Should have seen her dungeon pic.

what

Men can have ponytails

Okay going by that logic it can’t be a girl because of the beard

[dreamy rock]

You saying that boys can't have a ponytail👀

[little berry]

Well the key is in her dungeon pic

u Uber stupid

Have you seen it

[crystal vigil]

I have

And sherezar is a male

[little berry]

The creators have said the monster is a male

[dreamy rock]

It refers to him as a dude so many times though in the description

Sooooo

[little berry]

Get it thru ur thick head

See the pic, you will believe me

dude

It’s a male

The creators themself

Have called it a male

It's not. I already named mine Cleopatra.

[dreamy rock]

Good for you

One dang picture doesn't mean a thing

[little berry]

Ur the type to think the earth is flat

Type of person that thinks vaccines give autism

Open your eyes

Next time her dungeon comes I'll post her pic

Bro one pic doesn’t mean anything

It’s a male

The developer have said it so

[dreamy rock]

Are you gonna argue against the people who created Sherezar

[mortal bay]

So the people that created the monster have said Sherezar is Male, but your ignorant mind sees a picture that looks feminine to you so its automatically a female without facts or a debate ?

Very interesting

[fickle acorn]

Ikr.

[little berry]

His head is so far up his butt

[mortal bay]

He sounds like a Richard

I bet his name is Richard

Idc what his parents say hes definitely a Richard

I'll call him Dick for short

Very fitting imo

[barren arch]

@little berry please stop with this about the gender. It has already been solved.

[mortal bay]

Bypassing rules 101

😎

[fickle acorn]

Now, now. Don't get too cocky.

[little berry]

lol

[mortal bay]

Very punny

[inland trail]

Alex edit that please

[fickle acorn]

O

[mortal bay]

oWo

[little berry]

Yami's logic all over the place as usual

[mortal bay]

Hey Dick

[cinder geyser]

😌 😌 😌

[mortal bay]

^

What a smart lad

[little berry]

Quick question, Can I use nemesis variants in warmaster dungeons? Like for example can I use my Lucifire Hopefreezer in Thalassa's dungeon?

[inland trail]

Yes

[kind crane]

No

[mortal bay]

Maybe

[frozen crane]

@cinder geyser me too

tfw the sherezar supporter cant even get sherezar's gender right :omegalul:

whats next? thalassa being a guy? 😂

[inland trail]

Plot twist - sherezar has a fake beard

Wait, he said nemesis variants, I read that wrong
Well of course now, hopefreezer is still fire

[frozen crane]

lol rip

nemmys would be much more useful if u could use variants like that

[inland trail]

Hydratila is the perfect example

[frozen crane]

lol

in b4 sp messes up every other nemesis element as a "fix" to hydratila

[inland trail]

[frozen crane]

if i want sherezar to be fast, but not fast enough to outspeed my control, should i do some speed and some teamspeed on it?

maybe 1s and 2 ts

[little berry]

Use a lower level speed rune

Or

[kind crane]

Mixing speed and ts 🙅🏻‍♂️

[inland trail]

Situationally can be useful, if part of a certain strat

I did it in a war against VR, but had terrible luck with misses on charmless when trying to remove elvira's evasion so

Did it with Bitter, not my acc

[frozen crane]

Also, if sherezar is the easiest monster for me to rank up, should i go for him to r5?

[mortal bay]

Yh

[ionic tinsel]

Plot twist yami is a female

[fickle acorn]

O

[inland trail]

[misty elm]

Sherezar is 100% male, official fact.

[kind crane]

I keep calling it a woman tho and it’s annoying

[misty elm]

Who? Man? 😉 😄

(okay, bad joke 😢 )

[kind crane]

Weak

[misty elm]

Say better

[plush lance]

:facepalm:

facepalm

[fleet oriole]

@little berry dunno if you got a reply but no you cant

[frozen crane]

For faraday discharger, would his runes be ?

or

[kind crane]

or

[little berry]

Atleast 2 strength imo, then a life or ts or speed
Or

[hasty dock]

Nobody should run a Faraday with

or is fine

[little berry]

Why not

[hasty dock]

Just imagine what would happen if he got possessed and somebody tricked him into stealing an extra turn...

is best for uncontrollable attackers or for a Neobuki coupled with Elvira and Remntar

[little berry]

Just protecc him eh

[hasty dock]

Honestly man... 😑

How can u expect to come up with a plan to defend against possession in EVERY situation?

[frozen crane]

why strength life speed and not strength life teamspeed

[hasty dock]

No particular reason, really... It depends on the level of the monster and rune in question

[frozen crane]

lets say faraday is level 115

[little berry]

won't work in every situation either 🤷
No rune setup on him would work in every situation

[hasty dock]

Its far better than having him wipe out his own team if possessed

[little berry]

it's cool if you protecc him.. His trait is also good

[hasty dock]

Anticipation + Tough monsters benefit a LOT from the rainbow build

@frozen crane r3 can do either with or , r4+ might be better, for lower ranks, if u plan on taking on much higher ranked monsters, is better imo

[little berry]

Imagine now we have Dunn ra too. would be a lethal kamikaze

[frozen crane]

ok so i should be looking for ts

[hasty dock]

We're yet to see his stats, and relic slots

[frozen crane]

cuz i plan on getting faraday from the caves

after i buy gems

[hasty dock]

Lol, good luck with that...

[little berry]

I also heard it works with Elvira

[hasty dock]

I bought a Faraday cells chest myself recently, and finally crafted an Obscure

[ionic tinsel]

They should add a single possesion extra turn move

[hasty dock]

With luck like ours, @frozen crane its probably cheaper to just buy the chests

[little berry]

A dark monster already has that skill

scryb

[frozen crane]

maybe i could settle for 115 faraday

then that would be enough

[hasty dock]

115 is good

All my Nemeses are 115s

[little berry]

is a 115 Faraday almost as good as a 130

[hasty dock]

And this chest is the only thing I ever bought...

[frozen crane]

i plan on getting xiron ruby to 115 :p

maybe 120 if i need to rank 4 it for sherezar dungeon

[hasty dock]

@little berry for u 😉

@frozen crane awesome, keep it going 👍

[ionic tinsel]

Sherezar eww

[hasty dock]

For all those who think its all about ranks- kindly take a good look at the ss above 😉

[little berry]

Wow how?

[hasty dock]

Knowing the strengths and weaknesses of the most frequently used monsters 🙂

[little berry]

How did u beat that first enemy

[hasty dock]

Only Thalassa has a full set of , the rest have runes of level 6, 7 and a team speed 9

Who, Luke? From PoF?

[little berry]

Yeah

[hasty dock]

Well, I know Sherezar and Necromancer's A.i pretty well, being an owner of both, and so I know how they respond to different situations and buffs

[little berry]

I bet sherezar started with wizards negation

[hasty dock]

And the battles didn't bless me with a special either 😬

Well, he starts either with that, or Great Dispel followed by Grandmaster's Scroll...

[little berry]

Then what did you do when u were cda

[dreamy rock]

You beat Sherezar with Elvira team😮
I'm afraid to face them with my team

[hasty dock]

Actually, he didn't do the CDA

[little berry]

What did he do? Wizards negation?

[hasty dock]

Although I have 0 cd moves as well (crappy ones though)

Yep

[little berry]

Then you just froze them with thalassa eh

[hasty dock]

For Sherezars starting with CDA, my Sherezar simply has to die fast, which he does, since the A.i targets him due to his lowest life

So basically, I make a comeback mid- to late match

[dreamy rock]

Thallasa at level 100

[hasty dock]

Oh, I forgot to mention, I have a nice Uriel's Essence and Oblation Trap on Sherezar 😅

Thalassa is extremely good at lvl 100 too

[dreamy rock]

Oooooh
That's nice
I'd probably get destroyed if I faced a Sherezar team

[hasty dock]

Far better than most people realise

[little berry]

Nice win

[hasty dock]

I very, very pleased with Thalassa

[little berry]

Reminded me if a bug that I forgot to report

[dreamy rock]

Her only deny is like and freeze+drowned though

[hasty dock]

Virtually immune to possession at lvl 100, gives team immunity to freeze, and can chain deny at all levels... What more could I ask for?

[dreamy rock]

At 100

[hasty dock]

She also has a single Megafreeze

[dreamy rock]

At 100?

[hasty dock]

Yep

And a buff removal + extra turn

Plus, Thalassa's Chosen cuts away the need for a in most situations

[little berry]

Just posted the bug in #bugs-reporting-battle

[dreamy rock]

Yeah
And the freeze hater skill
But what if a monster is immune to freeze or artifact of something

Like there are literally so many 130 Igursus running around it's ridiculous

[hasty dock]

Well, she has no answer for that normally until lvl 115

@little berry do u have a ss of the bug?

Normally, Wizard's Negation misses Neobuki under Evasion

@dreamy rock aye, that race unbalanced the game big time

But where I am up now, I rarely see Igursus, so it isn't too much of a trouble

If I do have to go up against a Mountain though, Drowned and Curse are my best bet

[dreamy rock]

Hmm

[hasty dock]

And the dmg protection from Elvira is dead useful

[little berry]

Don't have a ss.. But I'm. 100% sure of it

[hasty dock]

Well, weird stuff do crop up from time to time...

[frozen crane]

@hasty dock i also have thalassa 100 and she impressed me too

i immediately shoved x runes on her cuz i knew i was gonna use her forever

[hasty dock]

Yeah, me too !!!

[silver tulip]

how do you guys suppose a 105 kihaku, 100 nautlius and 95 musu will do in floors 1 and 2 of the thalassa dungeon?

[hasty dock]

I know for a fact the last node of Floor 2 will give u trouble

[silver tulip]

what is it?

would ranking musu help? or should i get someone else

[unkempt holly]

Try to get Cavenfish or Enypiast that can do a deny other than freeze along with Kihaku, it should be ok then

[silver tulip]

the freeze and possession isnt enough?

[unkempt holly]

Well last base is thalassa herself which gives freeze immunity, if your possession misses you are screwed...also, once they get recently possessed status, it will be difficult to stop thalassa unless your monsters are very well runed.

[silver tulip]

what else is there?

@unkempt holly

[unkempt holly]

If I remember correctly, it was a white panda which can possess and a fire attacker, don't remember the name

[silver tulip]

ok, thanks

@unkempt holly i dont think ill be able to get a new water legend r1 that fast

would 105 kihaku, 105 TBG, and 100 Nautlius be good then?

[unkempt holly]

Its possible if you are well runed, get rid of thalassa as fast as possible followed by the attacker.

What are your rune levels?

[amber verge]

When are the Nemesis coming back? @mention me so I don’t lose the response 😊😊

[kind crane]

If ya mean cell dungeons, they ain’t

[tall cedar]

Nice

[frozen crane]

is that babari?

[little berry]

yes

[misty elm]

Looks like a girl 😄

[fickle acorn]

But it's an egg.

[fleet oriole]

xD

[mild wren]

xddd

[frozen zodiac]

If I use 110 xiron ruby, 105 shannaras bg, and 105 scar the outcast will I be able to get Sherezar rank 0?

Mention me

[tall cedar]

Yes

[frozen zodiac]

How many heroic orbs do you think it would take

[tall cedar]

2300

[little berry]

No less, no more.

[frozen zodiac]

I have 50 so uhhh Ima just wait till next year

[little berry]

lol

[frozen zodiac]

I’m gettin 300 for multiplayer season so atleast I get some cells

Okay so I can get necromancer or Sherezar which one should I get if I only have level 100 no skill group 4 which ones better at level 100

[frozen crane]

@frozen zodiac u can also buy orbs

42 gems for 110 orbs

[frozen zodiac]

I got 32 gems but maybe

Or I can wait for that $50 2500 orb pack but I don’t got that kinda money

[frozen crane]

nah dont

for that money u can get 1700 gems which is roughly 4400 orbs

if u have the patience

[silver tulip]

@unkempt holly kihaku has VI speed and two V team speed (because hes on my defense), naut has stam V, and two IV team speed for now

[unkempt holly]

@silver tulip hmm, i am not sure if you can outspeed in the last base, try it out once, I would recommend changing to all speed for Kihaku, put in a strength for naut replacing stam, this way you can magnetize and kill thalassa in couple of blows

And ts on the third guy

Also put some nice relics if you got em, maybe they can help reduce the difficulty

[silver tulip]

i have two high level pesti's

to help out naut

play, thanks for the help comet

it'll be a while till i save up the gems to do it anyways, lol 😅

[unkempt holly]

Put 4 high level pesti traps and couple which removes relics
Lol no worries, good luck, and that's good cuz you can rank up your epics by then to r3 or r4.

[little berry]

What runes for Sherezar at 100?

I have on mines

Is good on a unranked Sammy Fever Scatterer? Should I give him ? Or should I do on him?

[silver tulip]

disgusting p2w. wait. im one too

[little berry]

I'll stop being a disgusting p2w once I get myself Xiron woobi and Faraday >:[

[silver tulip]

i was gonna buy the chests

but then i got addicted to brawl stars and....

[little berry]

Yeah, Brawl Stars is pretty fun :P I only brought 3 chests and managed to craft, Sammy FS and Warthak the Sunbringer.

Both Sammy chests pulled FS thankfully, tho I would've preferred PC. And I really only needed 1 Warthak chest to craft either one and got Sunbringer so :P

[unkempt holly]

Sammy FS is attacker setup unless you don't have other Sammy's in which case ts is fine for support

[little berry]

Yeah he's my only Sammy currently. So I should stick with his current build with ?

[unkempt holly]

Do you have other revivers? Like undertaker?

[little berry]

I have Undertaker

And Metalisha

[unkempt holly]

In that case I would go for attacker with revive move or heal

I think he shines there more

But ts also works good for him

Especially if you play in high leagues where r0 monster is not that useful

[little berry]

Hmm, should I give him then?

[unkempt holly]

Looking at in isolation, that's what I would do

[silver tulip]

three $50 chests?

or the smaller ones

[unkempt holly]

But you should look at other monsters in the similar book and element

If you are confused, don't give high level runes, rune change for gold is coming , test it out...

I would go for big chests

Going for small chests and getting 50 vadamagma can suck your soul out

[nimble phoenix]

you say that as if a big chest cant do that to you

[little berry]

Hmm okay thanks you @unkempt holly

[silver tulip]

@little berry did you open three big ones?

[little berry]

No they were all smaller ones

I'm not that rich xP

[silver tulip]

dangg

opened three smalls and got two whole ones

goodjob

[unkempt holly]

When you open a big one, you will at least some nemesis cells which will feel less bad compared to opening one and getting nothing...just my experience...take it with a grain of salt

[pastel oyster]

hey guys whats better the thunder or fire warmaster?

[inland trail]

Thunder

[kind crane]

Elvira

[pastel oyster]

alright thanks

[lime venture]

Hi every one , what’s happened with orb’s’ offers? We have only 2 per day one at 3 Am? That’s crazy....

[misty elm]

No idea

[lapis current]

haang on

why din my warmasters ragnorak anticpation activate

against charmless

[polar valve]

did it or did it not?

[lapis current]

it dit not

[hasty dock]

Maybe he used a non-extra turn move

[lapis current]

pretty sure he went 4 times in a row

possible bug?

[misty elm]

Was his trait disabled?

[silver tulip]

@lapis current

[lapis current]

ooo yeah thats probs what happened

haha

hardly see any trait disabled being used nowadays

but ye there was a ingenice there

[polar valve]

looool

[frozen zodiac]

Lol I asked customer support why my tankerion healed my hydratila and hydratila got insta killed but it turned out it had reverse healing on it

[cold salmon]

Ok can anyone tell me how to use samael fs??

And warthak sunbringer too...I don't how to use them I always lose with them but how come they r OP??

[hasty dock]

Samael FS is a rare, and VERY POWERFUL dark attacker with low cd high damage Light attacks which add Sunburn and blind as a bonus, although single target

Running him with 2 gurantees u a kill for Dark monsters, especially with his self buff (unless a Necromancer is up against him, who steals the extra turn and transfers it to the hitter of his own team). The rest of the moves do pretty much the same as the other Samaels

Now, for Warthak the Sunbringer...

He's a hard counter to Dark monsters too, but his other advantages are immunity to control and cooldowns activated (common to all 3 variants) and, an option for soft deny (single target Sunburn + Daze) and hard deny (single target Sunburn + Stun). These, coupled with AoE buff removal, 100% accuracy AoE move, excellent relic slots make Warthak the Sunbringer an extremely competent Earth attacker who can rip through all dark monsters. Ideally for low levels he should be run with and , u can switch to at 115+

@cold salmon I hope this answers ur question 😊

[wanton briar]

Remntar or Necromancer? Only have enough to get unranked. I'm leaning towards Remntar

[frozen crane]

prob remntar

[hasty dock]

Remntar all the way

[inland trail]

Unranked remntar

[wanton briar]

Thanks. I was thinking of the same. Probably will keep him in defense

Thanks @frozen crane @hasty dock @inland trail

[marsh forum]

So i have unranked elvira, remntar, ragnarok, babari and sherezzar. I have enough orbs to get another or rank one of mine. Any suggestion? Thalasssa?

[tall cedar]

@wanton briar first Elvira and then anything:GWnekomakiAngeryBOYE:

Then remntar😉

[frozen crane]

@marsh forum thalassa

[marsh forum]

even unranked?

[frozen crane]

the only ones u have left are thalassa, barbael, gortak, necro, and zahra. thalassa is the clear next target for u

unranked thalassa is better than what u expect

[wanton briar]

I got Elvira and Shez.. @tall cedar

[marsh forum]

cool thx doc

[wanton briar]

Unranked I don't want to get Thalasa

I've destroyed myself many unranked Thalasa bases without any trouble. She is only good when ranked up

[tall cedar]

Well thalassa r5 gets countered even by a r0 ragnarok

😂

[wanton briar]

I'm 5 nodes away from Rag

Will get him in next rotation

[tall cedar]

Nice

[hasty dock]

Really, Demo?

[tall cedar]

Aye

[hasty dock]

A r5 Thalassa gets countered by a r0 Ragnarok ??

[tall cedar]

Thalassa didn't even use trait disable on Ragnarok. Lol

Mine was r1 tho with no runes equipped

[hasty dock]

😐

Can't judge monsters by the dumb A.i

What else did u have on the team?

[tall cedar]

Ruby sherezar ragnarok

Well I'm not saying thalassa is bad, but she is easily counterable nowadays

You just need 2 anticipation mons

[hasty dock]

That's what I've been saying since she came out 😑

I suppose Thalassa went straight for Ruby?

[tall cedar]

Recharged

Once used abyss bottom on Ragnarok but then she was near to death and rip

[silver tulip]

what moves should i run on r0 gortak? and is he generally better for defense or offense?

[silver tulip]

why people attack you is beyond me lol

[mortal bay]

That person isn't very smart as you can tell

[kind crane]

Because he uses succ monsters

Why do I know that team Yami? Who’s is it?

[mortal bay]

I'd rather not say his name

[stiff delta]

This guy definitely overestimates himself.

[kind crane]

Tell me

[mortal bay]

We don't speak his name here

You should know who that is

[kind crane]

There’s loads of people we dislike

Nah ain’t him

[mortal bay]

It is

Now delete that horrific thing

[kind crane]

I knew I didn’t like that team 😂

Yami your def team sucks

[mortal bay]

He hasn't showed his face since I had a little talk with him in dm's, I'd like to keep it that way

[kind crane]

Not even a denier

[mortal bay]

1.) I don't like deniers