monster-discussion

[mortal bay]

I still like you

[little berry]

Thalassa is Voltaik 2.0

@little berry you see volk

is still

good right now

[fresh blaze]

😂😂😂

[little berry]

I just wanna say, I like Barbael.

Thalassa will be really good for a long time

[noble coral]

Vali help with this hella conversation

Thalassa vs Sherezar

[fresh blaze]

I support all what yami says

[mortal bay]

Good

[fresh blaze]

Both are amazing

[little berry]

Volt ranks among the bottom of the legendary list right now and will always continue to

[fresh blaze]

Plus ragnarok onnnnnn fire

[mortal bay]

Be your usual neutral self

[noble coral]

To many writes 😂

[dreamy rock]

Not bottom
But he's not what he uses to be

[little berry]

he's still good man

thalassa will be good for a long time

Volt is one of the worst lol

[fresh blaze]

Be urself ur neutral self sounds like 😅 a commercial

[noble coral]

😆😆😆

[little berry]

he's no were near the worst lol

whos the worst

[fresh blaze]

For 🤔 some detox drinks

[little berry]

The Leperchaun one

[dreamy rock]

Li'l froggy does his job 10× better😄

[little berry]

yea not everyone has froggy

[dreamy rock]

Not everyone has Volt

[noble coral]

Guys stop writing fast

[little berry]

i think hes only better than some of the breedables.

Yea okay?

volt is easier to get

many events for him and a level up offer

2 level up offers

easier to get coz hes bad

[crystal vigil]

Please tell me how is volt worse than, say, cupid

[fresh blaze]

Ragnarok
Thalassa
Sherezar are my favs on equal level ❤️

[crystal vigil]

Or stinger s1

[little berry]

cupid > volt

dude

your so stupid

honestly

[noble coral]

Thalassa and Sherezar are top best monsters in the game which can kill every one

[little berry]

volt is like a mini charmless

[noble coral]

Ragnarok is in the middle

[little berry]

how can you call a charmless worse than cupid

you really think Voltaik > Cupid ?

YES

Wow

HOW STUPID CAN YOU BE

[noble coral]

😒

[dreamy rock]

Tbh
Let's just agree that they're both op

[little berry]

Is it not obvious that Cupid >Voltaik ?

I wouldn't say volt is bad, he's just outclassed. He has to deal with the likes of Zyla and of course, Charmless.

[crystal vigil]

It's not

[little berry]

Wow

[noble coral]

Cupid is op than volt?

😶

[crystal vigil]

Cupid can literally stun one enemy

[little berry]

Cupid is def better than Volt

[noble coral]

Yes

[little berry]

voltaik can ohko the whole team

lmao

[dreamy rock]

It's obvious you hate Volt😕

[crystal vigil]

Voltaik can kill 1-3 monsters if there is no faraday

[noble coral]

@dreamy rock swap volt for charmless :)

[little berry]

dude shut up lmao you know nothing about about monster legend

cept for "omg shezaer is good lol!1"

[dreamy rock]

He is so good
So is Thallasa

[noble coral]

@little berry if he not knows he wouldn't know bout all monsters :)

[little berry]

u got me there

voltaik can score a goal if there is no referee,defenders,audience or any distractions.
Basically Volt only good against an open goal post.

sigh

[noble coral]

😶

[little berry]

tell me again

what does cupid do?

[noble coral]

Lol

[dreamy rock]

He does something?

[little berry]

cupid much more useful

[noble coral]

Heals burn srun

[little berry]

how tell me

cupid does nothing

[noble coral]

Stun

[little berry]

Volt is good for lower leagues. Where Faraday isn't lurking around every corner.

not even farming gold

[crystal vigil]

Cupid is only good on an open goal post while 0.2m away from the goal

[little berry]

you dont need to stun

if the team is dead

already

[dreamy rock]

Stun
Woah
He's so op

[little berry]

stun,blind,heal all with high accuracy..
3542 speed

:0

[noble coral]

Wait what

[crystal vigil]

That's only to 1 enemy

[little berry]

only 1 enemy stun

[fickle acorn]

Cupid is bad.

[little berry]

cupid is bad man

get over it

voltaik is miles ahead of cupid

[noble coral]

Lol i never used my cupido

[fickle acorn]

Only use he has is being a gold slave.

[little berry]

it just shows how much worse voltaik is

dude your not even listening to us

[noble coral]

What about Hayman :P

[dreamy rock]

Or that you're a Voltaik hater👀

[little berry]

your not saying anything

about why voltaik is bad

voltaik

[noble coral]

I am not any hater 🤣

[dreamy rock]

Mean Psi

[fickle acorn]

Wait a minute actually.

[little berry]

Ok it's coz voltaik is so bad, he's practically useless for anything

okay tell me

1 reason

that he's bad

Ok

[fickle acorn]

1. This discussion is literally unnecessary because Cupid has no use.

[noble coral]

His ult is not good

[little berry]

I actually sold my cupid, I'm glad I got him back again when I brought that Xmas chest. Phew.

[fickle acorn]

2. Why are you discussing this in the warmaster channel?

[little berry]

okay so

He's bad coz he is practically useless for anything

we were talking about how

thalassa is the new voltaik

bcz u know how voltaik was so broken

[crystal vigil]

Except for killing the enemy team

[little berry]

That's a good question Alex. I don't know.

and he's saying that voltaik sucks

but now I don't know

@little berry he can do many things

kill the whole team is a big one

He can do nothing

[fickle acorn]

Ok now this is what you do.

[little berry]

you're not even listening to us

lets just go to #monster-discussion

[fickle acorn]

You let Psilotus believe his big lie that keeps him limited in the game.

[noble coral]

@fickle acorn from sherezar we went on thalassa than xiron than elvira than charmless, voltaik, cupid, hayaman if we keep talking we will go off topic 😂

[fickle acorn]

And you all go and live your lives.

😃

[little berry]

Okay

ok

That's some good advice

gotta love it when a mod roasts you amirite

Alex Dex, come to #monster-discussion, we will test it out

[fickle acorn]

I'm not wasting my time.

[silver tulip]

@hardy temple do you think i could get away with two layths and ingvars bg for floors 1 and 2?

[little berry]

I used taiga 110 as hitter esthirel 95 as TS holder and 105 invgars pet as tank and he holder

[gusty siren]

Isn't ragnarock supposed to have an area trait?

[silver tulip]

he does

gives his whole team a random warmaster trait

i.e. area skill mirror or area blind and evasion

[little berry]

Or area extra stamina

[hardy temple]

@silver tulip What ranks?

He is in the chamber getting a new rank.

[gusty siren]

@silver tulip no that is Status caster. All other warmasters have an area trait.

[little berry]

No he doesn't have an area trait then

[silver tulip]

o, my bad 😅

and @hardy temple probably just r1. not sure if i can get enough coins to get them any higher lol

[hardy temple]

It will be close for the final node. I think otherwise you can probably do it.

[stark schooner]

When r they gonna put next warmaster dungeon

Cuz it's only 1 dungeon atm

[barren arch]

This weekend. They are coming........

[stark schooner]

Will be able to get the new warmaster blessing in them??

[barren arch]

No, it is only offered once.

The first time a War Master comes out.

Limited time.

[stark schooner]

But he is still there

It's still his 1st time

[barren arch]

You mean Ragnarok.

[stark schooner]

Yes

[barren arch]

Then, you have until the time limit, yes.

[stark schooner]

Isn't z blessing on all warmaster that r wz him..like when he came out there was that light warmaster and z other.. didn't they get z blessing too from ragnarok

[mortal bay]

Only the first release provides a blessing reward

Ragnarok is the only wm yet to have blessings given out

All other current wm won't be released again with their relics available unless told otherwise

[stark schooner]

😢I wanted 2 get the water wm cuz it will be z next 1 wz z Ragnarok blessing

But the blessing will be gone 😢😢😢

[mortal bay]

You can still get the water wm when she's released again, but you won't be able to get her blessings from it

Only Ragnarok

[little berry]

So if the pets won't be released anytime soon, that wraps up the warmasters I guess eh?

[noble coral]

XD

[little berry]

😐 was good while it lasted

Welp

[wide python]

I have no idea what will be next but note the message was typed in October we are 3 months later

(October 11th)

[little berry]

Oh

I didn't notice that

[hardy temple]

What is the Blessing?

[kind crane]

Wm blessings is what you receive when they’re first released. Further you get thru the floors more rewards you receive

If you max it you’ll get 2 Xs, 50 ele, 1k gems, 2 diamond relics

[fickle otter]

The ground wm didnt get a blessing 😭 sad days

[kind crane]

Ground?

[fickle otter]

Earth whoopsie

Too used to pokemon lmao

[noble coral]

Warmaster Ragnarok: AoE Damage Mirror should be 2 turns not 1 turns :/

[slim mango]

why

do u mean the sc？

[noble coral]

No

The skill

The skill duration effect

Is 1 turn better would be as 2 turn. If you apply to Neobuki that damage mirror its 1 turn.. now neobuki's turn comes she uses example Hikari and now damage mirror gone :/

[dapper hinge]

Well, could be worse 😁

[little berry]

Welp

@noble coral Zahra's and Babari's mirror lasts only one too so it's only fair.

From skills I mean.

[noble coral]

Babari have 3 turns..

So he could be 2 at least

[cinder geyser]

That's the SC but the skill only 1 turn

[little berry]

Babari's SC is 2T, no?

[misty elm]

@dapper hinge he's in so many books, the background can't handle it 😄

@little berry it is

[dapper hinge]

Lol, I know, I thought I was being bamboozled or something :v

[hardy temple]

Congrats @dapper hinge

[misty elm]

Now what runes should I use on Raggy?

[plush lance]

Raggy?

[misty elm]

Ragnarok in short

[plush lance]

Oh..

Good question.

Probably teamspeed.

[misty elm]

I was thinking

Oh

[real wasp]

Team speed

[slim mango]

rainbow

[cursive needle]

Just wondering if Ragnarok is double legendary and not elemental specific, why can't I use him in restricted attacks?

[little berry]

ragnarok is double legendary 😛

[cursive needle]

Thus never being able to use him in an element specific war.

[little berry]

She is double a normal legendary

She's in a lot of books. So u get to use her a lot In book wars

she?

Ragnarok is a dude psilotus.

Yeah of course is a she

Dude. Ragnarok is Nebotus's dad how is he a she?

ragnarok is male

Dad?

lol

Did you not pay attention to Hackster when he first leaked Ragnarok?

.-.

,_,

[ember plume]

Ragnarok may not be male or female

[little berry]

Come on. She's obviously a female.

[ember plume]

:GWqlabsYaoLUL:

[little berry]

How?!

lol

Know what, nevermind.

Just forget it Psi. Just forget it

If it looks like a she, moves like a she, it's probably a she

[ember plume]

It's not in femalesbbook

[little berry]

Whatever ya say.

[ember plume]

So it's male

[ember plume]

Or in between

[little berry]

his flexible...

[cursive needle]

Agreed, defs a male.

[little berry]

Social Point, you have a typo there to fix..

[icy cipher]

Himself

[little berry]

Typo

Sure.

Whatever you say.

I mean you can say its a female just by the feminine characteristics. Without stretching your mind much at all

[icy cipher]

🤦‍♂️

[little berry]

Or, you could read his bio and it clearly says he's a guy but ok

well

Welp a typo

whats the proof he is female?

there is none

ok

Question :What's the proof that Llum is a female (without using the text)

who is llum? I forgot :p

The light nemesis

ahhh

[icy cipher]

Light nemesis

[little berry]

yea

And the light generals sister.

her face maybe?

Answer: the feminine characteristics

Right

her face her name her body her moves etc

Yeah

u wont see a man irl with the name llum

Well same for Ragnarok

Okay, but, if you actually read their bios it says what gender they are. So Idk where your getting at with Ragnarok being a girl.

sp knows everyones gender

But ok, if you want to believe that Ragnarok is a girl, fine. I'm not going to ruin that for you.

🤔

Peace ✌

🖖

[barren arch]

I don’t think this channel was set up for that kind of discussing. 😄

Pleased to see that it’s all sorted though. 😂

[nimble phoenix]

Well technically it is a discussion about a warmaster

🤷

[kind crane]

🤦🏻‍♂️

[barren arch]

I’m pleased to see we solved the mystery. 🕵🏻‍♀️

😁

[lost mulch]

Lvl100 sherezar on defense ?

[kind crane]

[little berry]

👎

👍

[kind crane]

🤦🏻‍♂️

[little berry]

👺

🤷

[lost mulch]

👌 👌 🍻

[little berry]

🍻

🤢

😁

[misty elm]

Oh my

[noble coral]

🙋‍♂️

😊

[kind crane]

Ugh this annoys me

Greatly

Angers me that this encourages ya to get 10 wm at r0 🙄

You could get a maxed for the same price

[keen sparrow]

It's just a bonus for p2w players

[kind crane]

It’s like nothing is ever thought thru

They should do it so for each level wm’s gain you get a reward. Like a legendary overlord for wm’s

[keen sparrow]

Too slow income

[errant arrow]

So social point say many possibilities to get orbes I think this mean offers 🤔🤔

[misty elm]

For muneh, of course

[patent sphinx]

It says REACHING floor 2, not completing

Is it just a bad translation?

[misty elm]

🤷

[fickle otter]

Are they going to release all the wm in feb?

[misty elm]

?

[cinder geyser]

Reaching IS NOT completing a floor so please can a dev make that clear? Plz

[misty elm]

Yes, not the same thing

[cinder geyser]

If it's just reaching then I have to get only extra 100 orbs for 6x runes 😂

[tame beacon]

It has been updated to say "Finishing Floor X"

[cinder geyser]

👍 👎

[tame beacon]

Hmm now which is for me and which is for the event 🤔 😛

[misty elm]

I won't spend money on 13,8k orbs (I have 4 already) 😄

It's cheaper to get those runes from the Treasure Cave 😄

[noble coral]

Amazing blessings... 💕

[noble coral]

Will be good if there is heroic dungeon excluding nemesis

[misty elm]

What?

[noble coral]

Heroic orbs separately and Nemesis survival

[misty elm]

You don't want orbs in the Nemesis dungeons?

[noble coral]

Both

They should create another dungeon with orbs but not to use nemesis

[misty elm]

Oh, yes.

And not a Survival dungeon ... 😒

[noble coral]

Depend

[misty elm]

I'm sick of them

[noble coral]

👍

[hollow hollow]

With new rewards for warmaster guess sp with see another spike in vpn usage to get the rewards. Still waiting to see a statement come out on this usage. 🤔

[gusty siren]

In today's day and age the use of a VPN is 100% recommended for safe and secure internet use.

Not saying i condone or object it's usage but just stating that using a VPN does not break any terms or policies and everyone should be using one in today's internet world. I dont see how these complaints are valid.

[misty elm]

Why would people use VPN to get Warmaster rewards?

[tame beacon]

Because different locations get orb discounts at different times

[misty elm]

I see

I personally don't use aVPN

[little berry]

hi

[hollow hollow]

It's valid when it's used to change their location to take advantage of sales. The sales are meant as 2 per day for each person. Not to pretend you are in Europe and also get those 2 oh now I'm flying to Asia real quick pick up 2 more sales.

Terms of service clearly states you are not to use in other program in connection with this game

Your definition of use of vpn fir safety and what others are using it for are also very different

[noble coral]

Vpn is good

[tall cedar]

i have seen 4 orbs sales without vpn 🤷

[nocturne crater]

I am not engaging in the debate. But just wanted to observe that using VPNs to maintain security and privacy is not at all the same as using VPNs to circumvent intended restrictions.

[wide python]

Yep agree abussing VPN is not the same as protecting your privacy having VPN doesnt mean you have to use it on sales

[faint beacon]

🤑

[wide python]

Also in the long run hurting fellow players that dont abuse it if sales from orbs by VPN users will cost SP income it will be either turn back to not region sales or up the price

I hope for the first

[fresh blaze]

Reduce the price permanently to the sale price ( nobody buys without sale I think)

Reset 12 h after purchase made

This way people could get 2sales per day regardless their location

Could go along with special events where resettime is shorter

fixes everything 😛

[wide python]

I know its done before and I wont delete it because its not used that much for now but i please want to ask not to use tenor gifs in ml channels I know im a party pooper but imagine if all channels will be flooded with gifs 😜

Sometimes we already get annoyed by to much emojis

[faint beacon]

LoL
Warmester blessings cancel

🤣

[little berry]

What an absolute disgrace, shame on you SP. Screwing over your overly loyal customer base yet again. This blessing was announced almost 24 hours ago, I’m pretty sure you’ve seen a spike in orbs sales in that period of time on the back of it, and that means players spending A LOT of $$$, only for you to now cancel it. Breach of contract and consumer protection legislation? Will players who bought orbs since this announcement be entitled to a refund for an expectation that SP have now withdrawn?

[misty elm]

Just what the ...

[little berry]

🤦

[misty elm]

Not like I cared about it, but wow ...

[fresh blaze]

whuuuut 😮

[little berry]

May be due to the VPN issue

[wide python]

as I said actions have reactions

[little berry]

You’re correct @wide python, what SP have done is on VERY thin ice legally speaking, expect reactions...

[wide python]

well not only actions from SP also action from Players

[faint beacon]

Lol

[fresh blaze]

Very sad I was super happy for my friends

They costs like 300-500€ each

Was a nice thank you 🙏

I liked it even I won’t get it

[faint beacon]

They have to fix VPN problem not cancel blessings

If you think VPN against the rule then sp should ban all players who used VPN for orb
Can sp do that lol

[tame beacon]

Here’s the problem Vali. No one said they liked it and everyone said they hated it, it was P2W and it should be removed. It’s a common thing on here, and then everyone is surprised when things are tweaked because the previous thing has no positive feedback k whatsoever. It’s the same reason the 72H went PvP -> old style -> PvP. Because no one mentioned anything good about the PvP edition until it was gone again

[fresh blaze]

I loved pvp too 😂

Why all the things go that I like

😱😂

I get ur point

Very sad

[tame beacon]

So did I. But SP didn’t hear that from anyone at all, until it was gone. I remember saying “wow I didn’t realise people actually liked the PvP edition” because all we saw was complaining

[fresh blaze]

Very sad

[tame beacon]

We need more positive and constructive feedback when things go well 😃

[fresh blaze]

That’s what I do 😃

[faint beacon]

🤷

[tame beacon]

Congratulations Zizoo! Enjoy him ranked!

[wide python]

No Mystery VPN as Tek pointed out isnt illegal

[fresh blaze]

It’s in some countries

[misty elm]

@little berry that's so nice 🤤

Too bad I'm out of orbs ...

And spending gems on a rank 3-4 Sunblast is higher priority right now

[hollow hollow]

They cancelled wrong thing pick and choosing things that get negative comments. Lol mutant runes they don't care everyone hates but oh let's cancel rewards.

Regardless if vpn used or not they were about to make a ton of money😂 😂

[cinder geyser]

👌

Thats bussiness

[faint beacon]

🤣

[misty elm]

I just noticed, 4 Warmasters at once? 😄

[frozen crane]

where barbael and zahra reeee

[little berry]

next week i think

[hexed harbor]

Too bad the blessings thing was cancelled. It annoys me that whiners and complainers end up messing up a good thing

[misty elm]

Not too many people complained about it

Most of them just didn't care (like me)

Maybe it's a scheduling problem

[hexed harbor]

I would have doubled down on orb collection for that. The blessing rewards looked really nice

Ah well...I've been f2p since Shademoon. I guess the good thing is I won't be tempted to change that 😃

[crystal vigil]

I'd take a 130 wm over 10 unranked wm and 6 x runes

[hollow hollow]

Yeah I would have pushed to finish my last few now don't have to worry 😂 😂

[pine cosmos]

I have 6WM between 100 and 110. I bought the orb pack on day 1 to get Gortak. The dungeons were seriously tough. I lost a couple of hundred orbs on retrys, no refund from SP when they changed the difficulties for the following ones. . I got no blessings either , a bit of a kick in the teeth considering a 2 year old could now complete the first 2 floors.
Personally, I don't care about SP cancelling the new blessings but I think they should retroactively reward those of us who got Gortak in the first phase.

[misty elm]

Yes, the first Gortak dungeons were hard.

And no elemental cells (for some time) or blessing

[pine cosmos]

Proper hard. Like the Nemesis dungeons.

[crystal vigil]

People: gortak dungeons are too hard
SP:

[misty elm]

YAY

[little berry]

[misty elm]

That Timerion wants to fade out of existence in shame 😄

[little berry]

No those sneaky strength runes mean he can hit hard with that cooldown deactivated

[little berry]

how can timmy receive total blind?

[misty elm]

Magic

[crystal vigil]

Random negative effect battle condition

[cedar river]

@little berry by staring at the sun during an eclipse 😉

[little berry]

[minor urchin]

I am not sure how long is it for WM Elvira to return,but I am trying my best to get orbs. Now not that is important. Important are the required monsters.
I wanted to abbord a specific topic,especially Elementium and Elemental Cells + WM Dungeons. You know already the there is no probability we will get any Nemesis for free,talking about F2P. I was thinking about this for long,and I need your opinion as well. Probably I will not get enough cells for my Gakora and Taiga too early until future WM Elvira Dungeons will return. For now,I have Rocigon already ranked. Also Globrush is an alternative,but my team for WM Dungeons will probably be Gakora,Gakora,Taiga,needed R1. Is it a good idea to spend my Elemental Cells and Elementium on these,because I don't think I will need them for others things in future + we get a lot from Treasure Cave,Dungeons,Monsterwood and Races.

What should I do?

[lapis current]

personally i wouldnt

the only time i spent my elementium for a wm was on my learnean to rush rank him up

but thats cause i wanted that X rune

i would save my elementium for someone that u cant get

aka nemesis or mroe f2p would be cain

my cain is at 115 coz of elementium

[minor urchin]

Nemesis=p2w

Idk about those hard to get monster like cain

[bold mural]

How good is Barbi? He’s the only one I can confidently get to a R1, but is it worth the blood and sweat for orbs?

I am debating starting Barbi, or going for Shreza

[frozen crane]

how 2 beat this

[real wasp]

@bold mural go for Sherezar

Dont bother with Babari

Hes not that good

[bold mural]

Ok, thanks

Using a rare in a WM dungeon... you are a brave soul

[real wasp]

Yh he needs more team speed

And higher level runes on Nidaria

Not 3s

And propably Relics

I dont see any

[frozen crane]

should i put this on vapwhirl :p

[real wasp]

I dont think so

Cuz vapwhirl dies fast, right?

[frozen crane]

true

unless my deny lands properly

nvm i put mediocre relics on varuna and nidaria and it worked lol

thx for reminding me about relics

i forgot they existed :p

[real wasp]

Yh lol its tough without relics

[candid oasis]

@real wasp use immune to freeze monsters

[cinder geyser]

😡 😡

[little berry]

at least u have her 😃

[cinder geyser]

Nvm just realized that the pvp season ends before the dungeon 😅

[delicate jasper]

@cinder geyser thalassa good election

[cinder geyser]

Ranked yes

[polar valve]

what is everyone running ragnarok at 100?

[little berry]

Coz he good at 100

why not

[rigid abyss]

How do I get the reward for doing the dungeon?

"Ragnarocks blessing"

[barren arch]

@rigid abyss

[faint beacon]

:GWtogaSataniaDead:

[delicate jasper]

😶

[echo warren]

Do we know if we get to level 3 on all WM, do we get the prizes for having all the WM of level 1 and 2 or just for level 3?

If this is not the right sire, to ask please we’re too?

*floor

[brittle hemlock]

It got cancelled...

[misty elm]

I'm sure you get all the rewards, including the floor 2 rewards. But yes, it got cancelled!

[brittle hemlock]

The All-WMs blessing event got cancelled on Thursday, unfortunately, no reason cited. @echo warren

[misty elm]

Not even postponed, it's cancelled

[brittle hemlock]

https://forums.socialpointgames.com/topic/11425/warmasters-blessing-cancelled/2

[grim surge]

Who is the best warmaster you should invest into?

[misty elm]

Elvira

[grim surge]

Welp she aint her so imma continue to save up

[echo warren]

And the water one....

[misty elm]

Elvira is the best at 100, at 120+ Thalassa is the best

[little berry]

Thalassa is a crime

[frozen crane]

no U

[noble coral]

Xd

[little berry]

Should I go for Sherezar or Necromancer as my third WM? I sadly couldn't get Ragnarok :(

[hardy temple]

I would just wait for Ragnarok. He is worth it especially if paired with Elvira.

[little berry]

@little berry in my unbiased opinion, go for sherezar

Is Sherezar good unranked?

Yes..

But don't quote me if a pet comes this way in a few days

[frozen crane]

sherezar is an ok support unranked

he has great dispell and one or two other moves

but thats literally it for him unranked

he cant deny

[little berry]

He can deny the accusation of being just ok.

[real wasp]

Sherezar is the best denier in game

For now

For who doesnt know

[brittle hemlock]

only when ranked

[real wasp]

And not thalassa

Yh 120+

[brittle hemlock]

and thalassa has a lot to say about that

[real wasp]

Cuz hes much faster than thalassa

[brittle hemlock]

if you're going to say a monster with 4 skill groups is best, at least say when they are best

[real wasp]

Yh only ranked up

Level 110 when he starts to get they deny skills

[brittle hemlock]

and 33 speed diffrerence isnt much

[little berry]

incoming stun
Stun: aww look just a 33 speed lower, I'mma go this other way for now*

[real wasp]

In higher leagues all players use level X runes

So sherezar is always going 1st

[brittle hemlock]

so sherezar with a team speed and two speed will outspeed thalassa with three speed?

[mortal bay]

False @real wasp

[real wasp]

And almost all players use sherezar in pvp , more than thalassa

[brittle hemlock]

no they dont lmao

[real wasp]

In high leagues

[brittle hemlock]

you don't see me with thalassa or sherezar in LIV

[mortal bay]

I'm well aware of what is commonly found in 'high' leagues

[little berry]

I think Mirlind is right

[real wasp]

L4 isnt high league for me

L2 is

And 1

[mortal bay]

Good thing you're talking to an L1 player

[real wasp]

Tell them Yami

[mortal bay]

Tell who what ?

[real wasp]

Im used to l4 now cuz im there for ages

[brittle hemlock]

two trolls...

fun.

[little berry]

who's the 2nd one

[real wasp]

Go at the 1st ranked player in pvp

[mortal bay]

Sherezar is more often used in defence teams, whereas Thalassa is more commonly seen on the offense team

[real wasp]

And look his teams

Go at the 1st ranked player

[mortal bay]

I know who Santos is

[real wasp]

And look his sherezar in attack team

[little berry]

That's coz they can't have 2 Sherezars

[mortal bay]

Ok you've given me 1 example

The reason Santos is currently #1 isn't because of Sherezar

It's because he's spent almost 3500 gems on PvP attacks

Over $100

For PvP attacks

[real wasp]

Omgg

[mortal bay]

Now look at #2

[real wasp]

Well

[mortal bay]

That person has spent twice that amount

[real wasp]

I looked #2

And he has sherezar on attack

And thalassa on deffence

[mortal bay]

You're using a very small sample size

[brittle hemlock]

yami

hes a troll

[mortal bay]

I don't think he's trolling in this instance

Misinformed maybe

[real wasp]

No dude number 3 also has sherezar on attack and thalassa nowhere

[mortal bay]

That's still a very small sample

[real wasp]

Sherezar is by far better than thalassa

For me

No one can change this

[mortal bay]

No one needs to change your opinion

[real wasp]

Sorry....

[mortal bay]

You can think what you like

Even if you're wrong

[real wasp]

Yes

[mortal bay]

You're entitled to think how you want, however false you are - as it's your opinion

[brittle hemlock]

everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we respect that here, but there's a line which you have deifnitely toed...

[mortal bay]

Something that does need to be addressed however, 33 points of speed makes no difference to the debate

It benefits neither side as it's irrelevant

It boils down to 2 scenarios

1 side has high levelled runes

or

1 side is the attacker

The side with the better runes always goes fast

Parallel to the attacking side

[real wasp]

Since there are always level X runes than that 33 is enough

To go 1st

And deny

Cuz there are always speed on sherezar and team speed on others

[mortal bay]

Incorrect

Thalassa on offense is faster than Sherezar on defence, same thing in the reverse also

[real wasp]

Why so?

[mortal bay]

That nifty thing on the far right of your island called the Rune Guardian

[real wasp]

Oh yh i knew u was talking about it

[mortal bay]

What's with the faint of ignorance then ?

[frozen crane]

the only thing sherezar can do better than thalassa is dealing with the stupid rng of missing

other than that thalassa > sherezar

[little berry]

Faster

More versatile

[mortal bay]

Again using the irrelevant speed argument

[little berry]

Third Warmaster ^-^

[gusty siren]

Congrats...and congrats on the rune slots

[frozen crane]

first wm ^-^

[tropic mica]

How much orbs would I need for stage 1-3 ?

[noble coral]

Sherezar ❤

[frozen crane]

i might be going for ragnarok

just for the nature cells

[misty elm]

@tropic mica 800+1500+2400=4700 orbs for the first 3 floors

And rank 2 monsters

[tropic mica]

Thanks appreciate it!

[frozen crane]

why does thalassa give immune to freeze to all teammates

[misty elm]

Warmasters have a trait for themselves (Tough, except Gortak and Ragnarok) and a trait for the entire team (Freeze immunity with Thalassa).

(and, starting with Elvira, Status Casters)

[frozen crane]

oh

[frozen crane]

what level monsters is the next node

im thinking about whether i should use gems for orbs or not

[echo warren]

You can only use orbs... you can buy gems and convert to orbs...

[dreamy rock]

Nice

[nocturne rover]

I am a pretty new player (lvl 45) and I was wondering whether leveling up my monsters would make heroic dungeons harder ( all my monsters are lvl 50)

[dreamy rock]

No

It's set I believe

Starts at level 60
And builds up

[nocturne rover]

And what's the last node like ( floor 0)?

[dreamy rock]

Well, if you want to get the WM
100 cells
2nd floor is level 105 on last node

[nocturne rover]

Wow so at lvl 44 it will be pretty hard

[dreamy rock]

Very
Even I struggled with final nodes
Both Elvira and Ragnarok

Elvira was especially hard

[nocturne rover]

I wanted to go for Elvira 😥

Who is the best WM in your opinion?

[dreamy rock]

Unranked

Definetly Elvira

She was worth the work
Carried me to L4 and continues to carry me

[nocturne rover]

All right I have 16 Elvira cells already and 800 orbs I thought I made the wrong decision there oof😆

[frozen crane]

elvira unless ur really prepared for other good warmasters too

by really prepared i mean u have a whole lineup of monsters in one element, most of them being ranked

[lapis current]

when the blessings coming

[little berry]

Why Ragnarok doesn't have a pet?

He might feel lonely 😢

[barren arch]

He has all those spinning elements to juggle with instead. 😃😉

[misty elm]

Nebtous is his son/pet 😄

[patent sphinx]

Well, all warmasters are his pets, kinda:P

[little berry]

If thalassa was my pet I would make the owner sell me

[misty elm]

So you'd sell yourself? 🤔

[little berry]

If thalassa was my pet yes

[kind crane]

With wm blessing being cancelled will there still be an increased opportunity to get orbs as offered? 😋

[misty elm]

No idea ...

I think the book counts

[kind crane]

Thanks for your contribution

[burnt lantern]

When will players that got Ragnarok receive the Level X Team Speed rune?

[wide python]

between 4 and 11th

[little berry]

Oh btw
Will the pets will get realised after Ragnarok's blessing?

I want to see if the pets will improve the warmasters or won't
Probably won't, some Warmasters are already overpowered :GWqlabsHyperSweats:

[fickle acorn]

That could also mean never.

[cinder geyser]

I'am stuck here😩

She keeps trait disabling and mega freezing

[frosty reef]

Use shook on her

[cinder geyser]

Yeah did but she uses abyss bottom

[frosty reef]

A thethys would help a lot

Do you have her

[cinder geyser]

Only rank 1

[frosty reef]

Are battle items allowed

[cinder geyser]

🤔 didn't see

BTW the battle conditions are stun/ freeze / possession Immunity

That's quite unfair
She is only rank 2 she shouldn't have abyss bottom neither plankton eater

[noble coral]

Lol

Why strength runes on Caillech

And why a rare

Here is the answer why you dont win

[lapis current]

its because he has no damage

definitely the right choice

[little berry]

that R4 Froslika though

[frozen crane]

is r4 shademoon capable of taking on sherezar's floor 2 by himself?

or should i get a goldfield to back him up

[stray wave]

@frozen crane goldfield

[frozen crane]

and for floor 3, would r2-4 goldfield and r4 shademoon be good enough

[real wasp]

On floor 4 only using shademoon

Solo

Got to node 21

Out of orbs

[frozen crane]

nice

what runes r shademoon

might take off my ts and actually rune him to be able to solo these things

[real wasp]

Sec.

Idk if u can solo all the way tho

Ill try and get goldfield and some epic to r3

To finish this if i need to

[frozen crane]

so strength and double speed

ill prob settle with strength vii or viii and then speed ix x2

whats ur shademoon's moveset

cuz mine uses concussion bomb

[noble coral]

@lapis current that's not a probably a right choice to have a support monster with Strength runes. You probabaly do not know how to play

[ionic tinsel]

That’s a bit rude

[cinder geyser]

@noble coral in my situation it is the right choice
How am I suppose to deal dmg to those high life monsters

[wide python]

Yes that is not nice to put it like that but he is right about putting strength on caillech she is a deny so no use for strength maybe team strength

[cinder geyser]

BTW I figured it out
Just had to use control Immunity instead of shock

[wide python]

No use in putting single strength on a not attacker

[cinder geyser]

I was running the 60 dmg skill

[lusty ruin]

There aren't many attackers in Water, so sometimes you have to do with what you've got

[cinder geyser]

And i'am going to remove these runes as soon as I finish thallasa dungeons

[lusty ruin]

Nautilus is very good for the Thalassa dungeons. I finished them all with Nautilus and 2 rare supports.

[cinder geyser]

Didn't hatch my eggs yet to rank

Will hatch and rank nautilus for the next time

[lusty ruin]

I finished dungeon 5 with it, Nannuk and Mudflow. So I would recommend to rank it up if you want to go further.

[cinder geyser]

👌

[lusty ruin]

dungeon 6, actually

[patent sphinx]

Did you use nautilus with strength runes?

[wide python]

@cinder geyser well you certainly have a point there now skill change is so easy to bad rune chage isnt

Love to see my text to the left 😜

[lusty ruin]

Yes. 1 strength and 2 full speed. 6 team speed on the rares. Focus on killing the highest threat first

[cinder geyser]

Yes it is bad @wide python hope they at least reduce the cost 35 for x rune remove is redicilous

@lusty ruin it's great tactic but hate when battle conditions ruin it like evasion area stun, cda....

[lapis current]

@noble coral u must be a top 10 player since u know so much. How would you run that then to defeat thalassa

[noble coral]

I didnt got thalassa yet when i will go i will tell you

[lapis current]

so in that case you dont know as well so you dont know how to play the game?

[noble coral]

?

You dont know how to play that game i play this game since it started pc version

[lapis current]

genius!!!!

u must be a top player!!!

wow amazing!

[cinder geyser]

Don't mind her jonyeoh

[little berry]

@lapis current BigNSmiley is pretty strong player

[cinder geyser]

👀
Who

[misty elm]

I stand corrected 😃

It's even worse 😄

[inland trail]

BigNSmiley strong

[kind crane]

🤣🤣🤣

[little berry]

🙃

Bignsmiley got 130 nemesis

[kind crane]

Oof

[misty elm]

Yeah, sure, he got them ... 🤣

[wide python]

I dont think a 130 nem or wm (this is wm channel) can tell you if someone is strong it says someone has money

[misty elm]

Too stronk!!!

Even stronker 😄

[cinder geyser]

He sure got a 130 nemesis

Terrible lier 😂

[misty elm]

☺

At least he's got some good monsters

[noble coral]

Lol

Thats 1st of my acc 😂

In this acc im not payable

In second yes

[kind crane]

Liessss

[noble coral]

Eh

If you have money you can buy, but not all "things"

[kind crane]

You can’t buy squat

[misty elm]

Then show us

[noble coral]

What should i show?

[misty elm]

☺

[noble coral]

Speak

[misty elm]

Wrong emote

[noble coral]

I dont know why i am wasting my time

While i need to contribute in race

[misty elm]

Good question 😂

Why am I here?

[noble coral]

Yes..

[misty elm]

Well the point was that people got some doubts about those Nemesis monsters

[noble coral]

They are jealous bout me

My 1st acc doesn't have a nemesis monsters only talos but not ranked

In second acc i am payable bought many gems just to reach two times 90 door

[kind crane]

What’s ya alt called?

[noble coral]

😒

[misty elm]

Just what the heck is that?

[noble coral]

Lol

Please stop judging me

[patent sphinx]

These runes...

[misty elm]

Dem runes ...

[noble coral]

Lol what

[patent sphinx]

And you’re accusing ppl for being noobs

[noble coral]

😂

[little berry]

I saw bignsmileys 1st profile. He's very strong

[noble coral]

I put runes as i wish

@little berry 🤗

[misty elm]

Define stronk 😃

[little berry]

L2 pvp

[cinder geyser]

Nope defenetly it gameguardian the hacking offline tool 👌

[little berry]

No

[noble coral]

What the hell

[misty elm]

Also changing a monster's name doesn't prove anything

But I believe you

[noble coral]

Why do i need to use gameguardian while i am guardian woth money 😂

[little berry]

[noble coral]

Please guys stop judging me about 1st account

I just dont pay in that account

[cinder geyser]

@noble coral OK rich Boi can I see your dad's palace

[little berry]

Big n smiley is in L2, so he's strong 💪

[noble coral]

Wanna see my face?😂

[misty elm]

Please no 😄

[noble coral]

🤣

[little berry]

Smiley go wreck their defense with Ragnarok

[noble coral]

With pleasure 😁😍

[little berry]

[misty elm]

Won't happen 😈

[noble coral]

Lolz

[cinder geyser]

@noble coral didn't know you're that smart to hire someone named @little berry

[noble coral]

I do not know your names in ml but i would like to have a match

[kind crane]

Smiley didn’t you say you were gunna max your ragnarok!

?

[noble coral]

No

[kind crane]

You did

And alas, you didn’t

You said when you bought your gems you’d go crazy and buy loads of orbs.

[noble coral]

Lol dream dream

I haven't a magic r5 so i wont be able to gp throught that

But a rank 1 is pretty good for ragnarok

Wait what

I have a nemesis rank 5 now

[patent sphinx]

L2 with 2 nemesis and lvl100 warmasters? Interesting

[noble coral]

👼

[misty elm]

Then why isn't Raggy rank 5?

[noble coral]

Becuase i've got that nemesis before 2 day

[cinder geyser]

Yeah he was poor and suddenly became rich these past two days

[misty elm]

Too slow, learn to spend more 😄 😄

[noble coral]

Do not call me poor

[misty elm]

Nobody called you poor

[patent sphinx]

The real question is why do you even care
Let him talk whatever he wants
Just ignore him

[noble coral]

He just did before 1 sec ago

[misty elm]

Oh right 😄

[noble coral]

Thanks :)

@patent sphinx i always love that word

[misty elm]

Sigh, okay

[noble coral]

Lol

I just wrotes those names so they can know now who am i ;p

[misty elm]

At least those runes are good

[patent sphinx]

I meant to ignore you but whatever

[inland trail]

No acc in your team even has a 130 nemesis

And I also hope you're smarter than those runesets show, I wouldn't brag with those

[misty elm]

That Faraday is good

[cinder geyser]

Told him to show me his profile
He told me no
I've found it his profile he said thats my secondary
I told him to show me his main he said no

[noble coral]

@inland trail do you think i am so stupid to letmmy account in my team 😂😂😂

Im not even dumb xD

[cinder geyser]

So why the hecccc would anyone believes you

[inland trail]

[noble coral]

Arabic name stop

[polar valve]

arabic name 😂 😂

[inland trail]

Just so you know, I'm playing with 3 accs in our team, so what?

[misty elm]

Hahaha

[little berry]

Everyone jealous of smiley

[misty elm]

Arabic name 😄

[cinder geyser]

Yeah pretty cool

[noble coral]

@little berry help give me a hand 😅

[misty elm]

Just be cautious, you could get mutated 😄

[noble coral]

I know

[little berry]

Show that Faraday in action and see them go crazy

[inland trail]

@little berry why would I be jealous when I have acces to an elite acc
Others aren't jellous too, we're just exposing the trolls

[noble coral]

Faraday+Ragnarok OP

[little berry]

But not ur account kek

[noble coral]

Lol

Diss

[inland trail]

And I never say it's mine, I always say 'I did this with acc name' when playing with other accs which aren't mine

I don't go around trolling people...

[little berry]

So sad it isn't urs 😂

[noble coral]

Lol

[misty elm]

grabs 🍿

[inland trail]

Yeah sure... Co-owning it pretty much
Kihaku

[noble coral]

🤣

[little berry]

Don't steal it

[noble coral]

My team lead known my account password and email to join my account lol while i have vacations or exams they join into my account

🙈

[little berry]

[noble coral]

My lead is like my Brother

He will come from India to my country to meet me

Who can do that ? No one 😜

[little berry]

[cinder geyser]

Until he finds out he came from India to see a rich boi

[noble coral]

Sometimes he makes me lead sometimes co lead cometimes makes me soldier lol

[inland trail]

More like a troll @cinder geyser

[polar valve]

Genti isnt rich by any means

[noble coral]

I dont know what the hell he want to mean by this way

[cinder geyser]

@inland trail I know just messing

[polar valve]

language

[noble coral]

@polar valve true 🙂

@polar valve une sdi nje send se cfar kane keto me mua 😂

[patent sphinx]

Isn’t nolimits!’s lead one of these people reported for kicking people after using gems in race before?

[noble coral]

Nah

It was Gang ShowDown

As i remember

[cinder geyser]

#1 criminal in the whole world

[noble coral]

Very funny

[misty elm]

[misty elm]

Anybody got the blessing rewards?

[patent sphinx]

Can’t wait for relic xp boost

[misty elm]

Ragnarok's Blessing?

[mortal bay]

Yh

[little berry]

Triple speed runes for Thalassa?

[misty elm]

Yes

[kind crane]

Nah

[misty elm]

☺

[woeful grove]

Hairbrush

[little berry]

😂

Ouch thalassa fans

That gotta hurt

[misty elm]

🤔

[wide python]

I want mine tomorrow during rune lords

[misty elm]

Got them

Shiny runes 😃

And now I can start hatching Ragnarok

[celest charm]

What runes and skills are people using own ragnarok?

[frozen crane]

ts x3
hp x1 ts x2

those r the popular runes for ragnarok

[silver tulip]

skills you can honestly run whatever @celest charm

but a must have imo is death door

[fresh blaze]

crying at arabic Name stop

[little berry]

When will Ragnarok come again

[little berry]

every month..

[noble coral]

Yes

[stoic path]

Ragnarok 110 lvl : or ?

[fickle acorn]

Either could work honestly.

I'd personally prefer more Team Speed.

[stoic path]

If I have baba yaga 130 and gregorz 120

[fickle acorn]

All strength...

Well then I'd use all team speed to make up for Gregorz not having any team speed.

[stoic path]

I can change one to ts for gregorz

[crystal vigil]

or would be better than for gregorz or any attacker actually

[fickle acorn]

[misty elm]

[stoic path]

What if to replace gregorz on talos forgotten artifacr? Or better gregorz?

[misty elm]

What rank is that Talos?

[cinder geyser]

Neobuki

(+Elvira)

👌 👌 👌

[dreamy rock]

That reminds me
Should finally unlock slots on My Neobuki

[misty elm]

Shame on you

[dreamy rock]

I'm not the one who chose for it to have 1 slot👀

[cinder geyser]

Hatched mine as soon as I saw that discount

[stoic path]

Talos is 115

[misty elm]

Hmmm

Artifact is a far superior trait, but ...

[dreamy rock]

I can imagine hatching Sunblast and he hatches next day right after slots fest
And has 1 slot

[misty elm]

I'd flip the table

[dreamy rock]

I really really hope that doesn't happen😓

[misty elm]

Lately I was lucky with race monsters (all slots on the last 3), though (and now my luck ends, because I wrote this 😄 )

Just watch it

[little berry]

Good luck on the rune slots mighty khiaku

[frozen crane]

Alright im done with this game
Sherezar is the best warmaster because he prevents the ridiculous missings of attacks that shouldnt happen

idc anymore im too tilted from these bogus misses

[little berry]

he denies my denier lol

[frozen crane]

i shouldve went for sherezar

i wasted my orbs on thalassa

[little berry]

me too

on babari

this has to be a secret

Sherezar fanbase growing steady..

[frozen crane]

thalassa cant protect me from the stupid misses that keep happening with my monsters

[little berry]

[frozen crane]

thats the sole reason i like sherezar now

[little berry]

get sherezar in ur team

[frozen crane]

just cuz of his true vision trait

[little berry]

Ive been telling all f2p to get sherezar over thalassa

he is awesome and hard to defeat..

that SC kills me

But ppl were head over heels for thalassa, but now regret it

since i have mounte as main denier

Ragnarok is the king

[frozen crane]

no ragnarok is still bad

sherezar is the best cuz of true vision

thats the best trait in the game

cuz it prevents the player from getting destroyed by this game's dumb and dysfunctional rng

[little berry]

Ragnarok bad?

[gusty siren]

ragnarok doesnt even have area trait like others

[frozen crane]

^

ragnarok cant even aoe lol

im only getting sherezar cuz i have an r4 shademoon

and i saw someone else here solo sherezar floors with shademoon only

and i have a goldfield ready for extra support

[little berry]

Y'all underestimate Ragnarok too much

Thallassa still the best

[fickle acorn]

^

[gusty siren]

Oh i admit ragnarok is great - just saying i wouldnt rate him as the best

[noble coral]

Wat skiils of Ragnarok in lv 105 @little berry ?

[little berry]

@noble coral
Skill mirror/life regen
CDA
Death Door
No More Failures

[noble coral]

👍

[lapis current]

wait

does ragnorak not have aoe true vision

[mortal bay]

No

[stoic path]

Anticipation?

[wanton briar]

Anticipation and True vision are unique to Ragnarok.
Random status caster is for whole team

[kind crane]

Shame you’ll never see him in a war

[ionic tinsel]

Unique?

Unique?

Sherezar has true vision and necromancer anticipation

[misty elm]

The random SC is maybe unique, but it's effects are not

[tame beacon]

He just means they're only given to Ragnarok, not that he's the only one to have them. Perhaps slightly wrong wording but lets not get all upset 😉

[little berry]

He's the most unique wm