#monster-discussion
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So, any conclusion about the best runes?

Rainbow looks the best
Nah
He's a support
He's meant to be the teamspeed holder imo
He's not meant to deal damage
armor]gaming says rainbow is all the rage but i wouldn't go rainbow
Yeah
Rainbow is not that useful on Ragnarok
Ragnarok is like Neobuki if you think about it
A supporter that can be ran with

I prefer my attackers to have
but any way works depending on rank and level of runes
life ts ts best for ragnarok
neobuki is attacker/support/tank specialising in AOE Team buffs
ragnarok is support/deny specialising in 1v1s
@brittle hemlock
Rugaboi meant that Ragnarok has a lot of good skills to choose from
As well as Neobuki has
- they both got an indirect buff thanks to free skill changes
im saying that Ragnarok and Neonuki aren't very alike, sure they have good skills but should be treated differeently
I meant...
Oof

At level 130.
At all levels
I think he can be runed slightly different at lower levels. Dependent also on relics.
That’s one thing I’ve learned Playing this game, there’s never just 1 rune set.
Too risky running unranked Warmasters without a life rune imo
He has the relic slots and the moves to stay alive without a life rune
Dat supercharged amulet is op
YOOOO
@noble coral did u hatch her yet
timmy with strength loll xD
@ornate vale I will report but im afraid nothing can be don on sunday night
Thanks Marianne! Have a blessed day!
Big strong Timmy
@viscid lance Cool, what team did you use?
Wow
Doesn't look as tough as Elvira though
Good to know what I'm going up against anyways
And congrats
Thanks
Wow Congrats
Thanks
Ragnarok is tough on R1 (thunder node). Took me quite a few tries w R4 Neo, R3 volt, R4 Francine.
Never thought i'd appreciate Francie Frank's single target Death/nightmare/shock(?)/Death countdown skill😝
- What's the point with all of the screenshots?
- Why this channel of all places?
Flexing gone wrong right?
@noble coral wowww you ready for them orbs now ?
Yes lol
😆
Finally Rag lol
Sakura thats on my second acc lol
Bought 7 times 1700 gems
Finally also got 90 room cave
Insane
And that goes to show why we get more p2w elements, 7x1700 gem packs.... smh
For 11,900 gems id expect a better profile and runes tbh... sorry
@noble coral great ❤ and how much traps you found bro?
Why do you have 2 speed on burotgor?
Cos my earth monster collection sucks and buro would die before getting to play.
On this node, who would kill buro?
The most likely would be Ragnarok if he has deaths door.
Use some relics
I had a lot of problems with that node
I put the speed on before the rahnarok dungeons
Had to wait till ragnarok got a crap wm status caster
He’s getting screwed by anticipation and mirror damages
I used this team
Baba can remove the buff the node gives
Then u can possess after
True. My baba is rank 0. I have 4 cells lol. I need her at rank 1.
I really wished I could have used her. Her PER would be very handy.
U need to find someone to remove pos effects
Then just keep retrying until ragnarok gets a crap status caster
I tried musu level 95. Before musu goes, the other epic is dead. After musu goes, wartak goes and puts on buffs.
Its a crazy hard node
Ya. I’ll just keep retrying until I get some luck!
Compared to rest of dungeon
This team cleaned out the other modes easy. Two epics. I surprised myself. But this node though…!
That skill to give 100% life stam and ex turn is rough too
Take out ragnarok first
And I’s throw on a life rune
Ur not gonna outspeed anyway
Thanks. I’ll try that.
Good luck my friend
Thanks Kyle!
@dark igloo give high speed rune to Musu so that he goes first then you can extract Musu and save your unquipping gems
It looks like everyone has a 130 Ragnarok😳
Yeh others have reported the same, gonna ask
@little berry its fixed 😃
@tame beacon thnx😀
😊

My dad is going to kill me i swear lol

I spent like 400+ dollars to get 11 900 gems

Please tell me that wasn't your dad's money
It is lol
🤦
I think there's something wrong with you
You're a bit late Dori
why did u bought those gems man?
To get cave in room 90
It pains me Yami
I spent like 1000 gems to get to cave 90
Luke ?
So you stole money from your dad, to spent on a phone game ?
Money can't buy intelligence
Ik
Or friends apparently
Gtg cya
My head hurts
I think my brain just died
mine too
How you liking ya Rag Yami?
Still functions more than his
Not hard lol
You regret going for it?
That's everyone's issue
You gunna save for the next big things that orbs provide?
Need thalassa
I hate the unreliability. Doesn’t take skill to kill it. Takes luck
Yeah Thalassa is undeniable 😂
I've beat every single base in L1 without him getting evasion or skill mirror
I intend on getting Ragnarok at some point but right now I'm having no trouble against him in PVP.
Sammy Babari Ragnarok
Yeah I watched that YT thing with you and armor or whoever it was
I’m more of a x4 speed but alas
It was only 2x for the stream
Yh
What you think sp wil do after ragnarok
Myb triple legedery
Sherezar Remntar Ragnarok maybe
Thalassa, Remntar, Sherezar
Hmm
No way
Never put Thalassa and Sherezar on the same team for defence
Unless you're not running great dispel on Sherezar
Where’s the damage tho
Yeah curse is nifty
Boring tho
Could do Remntar
but might be too slow
I wanna set an interesting team. Not just basic runes
Delete that now
Stop spying on me
I meant like health 😂
Wench
Fuming
Did someone say Remntar/Babari/Raggy 😍
Can someone test Ragnarok against Remntar on a war base?
He doesn't seem to cast evasion or cooldown protection when going against Remntar
It's completely random
Were you able to get him to cast either of those 2 against Remntar?
PvP
he did?
Oh
so changed the channel back to warmaster 🍀
2.6% for evasion or cool down protection
I got skill mirror like 15 times
Looks rigged to me 🤷
Sorry that was to not get evasion 20 times.
Oh
I'm going to try another 30 times now and let's see how many times I get evasion
Shady more
Talos even more
XD
Elvira even more:GWactionSmolConcern:
It changed back to warmasters discussion
Yep
Even a charmless with elvira and lose? It's absurd
Elvira just needs the right allies to be fun
Most people who use Elvira on defence usually do not have speed runes. I use Ingenica to first remove positive effects and trait disable then use Hackster to hack them all... Lol
Unfortunately they aren't here lol
Ingenica's trait disable is OP. Removes positive effects and disables trait. That too AOE. She should be a warmaster
Ingenica actually trait disables first and then removes positive
so if you are under evasion she cannot remove the trait

@little berry no I don't think it's that way
She removes evasion and then traits disable for me
Always
🤔
😳
Dat emoji haha
I'll do a video if I get a chance
did they change her then
Pretty sure that's wrong
If its doing that it's a bug. She is supposed to trait disable and then remove positive. Do so for me
Trait disable then remove pos
Can remove evasion?🤔
You guys can check it cuz I kill the Elvira bases with Ingenica like that ... Please don't tell me it's a bug haha
She'll still remove the evasion from Elvira. Just won't disable the trait
Oh
nerf xarius' ingenica now
It kills trait and then Evasion
Brb let me check if I have a Elvira base
I haven't ingenica
Just read the move...
can some ingenicas be different ?
@mortal bay lol description aren't SPs strength lol... Anyways I just shared what's happening to me... It might be a bug
hmm
First trait disable then remove positive effects
My ingenica used to first possess and then trait disable on her ult
Brb.... guys
Then with new update, it got fixed
Now it removes positive Nd then disables trait?
He has an old version then? 😳
Lol
Man... I wish I made videos... Oof... No one is believing me 😂
I think u have a special edition ingenica 😀
Maybe your ingenica is like what mine used to do earlier😂 😂
You can't have an old version of game mechanics, because they're not changed like that Psilotus. Traits you can as they are allocated differently, but move mechanics are more than likely changed globally.
Anyways, it was great till it lasted... if it's fixed then my bad
I have noticed ingenica removing effects first. But it got fixed a long ago
🤔
Replacing str and speed with 2 team speed would probably be better
Why strength?
i prefer a more attacker-oriented ragnarok compared to a support-oriented ragnarok
unless he already has an attacker
I like him with strength, although I personally run 3ts
Mine will be 3ts
why str on ragnarok? :GWqlabsThinkPlant:
That Neobuki on fleek ❤🔥
My neobuki used Yokudzuna Form and i keep using my Ragnarok with Skill Mirror to all allies and damage mirror lol
How much damage voltaik did to me it reflected to his neobuki xD
Easy opponents
I dont think so lv 120 is pretty high
Shademoon was impacted by the fail XD
I was watching at your vid on yt.. was hard to kill sherezar,ragnarok and remntar 😂🤣🤣
All have extra turn skills for rag to counter
Poor voltaik XD
👼
Wow
Wow @noble coral u 5.6k
Lol thats not so strong 😂
R0 2 ts 1 life or 3ts
So Ragnarok worths?

I mean that team kinda trash...
@noble coral what skill did you choose for godnarok?
Finally got Ragnarok after running so many permutations and combinations... 👯
This is my defence team.. I win only 1/3 of defence due to being low on runes.....
@little berry Mother's nature energy, Archangel Blessings, Barbarin Warcry, Blacksmith's Masterpiece
Ok no death door?
Most common runes I’ve seen on Rag is rainbow so
No death door
I cant swap barbarian warcry coz for exra turn.. i cant swap mother's nature energu coz of AoE Life and damage mirror, i cant swap Archangel Blessings coz of removal heal and evasion.. i cant swap blacksmiths master piece coz of mirror skill.. @little berry tell me one thing why i didnt choosed death door ..
That's meh
what do u guys think
sherezar remntar and elvira in one team
elvira as my attacer
Is Elvira ranked?
She's not the greatest attacker at 100
She has pretty good single target
hmm
Not good AOE though
cause my current team is charmless timerion and remntar
attack team is sherezar cain and stormbeard
but i just got r1 ragnorak
so tihinking of replacing sherezar
Use Elvira for offense
my offence team is pree strong now though
So
Legendary 3?
Oh
You're probably L4 Then
You could put Elvira on defense
With teamspeed and a fast denier
ye thats what im doing now
remntar ts timerion speed and charmless
but my elivra is just sitting there and sherezar soon as well
so nt sure if can put all 3 in a team
Yeah
But Elvira has the auto evasion
So fast denier backed up by teamspeed on Elvira and free evasion at the beginning of the battle
Unless you get attacked by a lot of Sherezars
Then maybe not
Well
If you got Elvira to rank 1
She would learn her 45 power aoe
Tbh
Elvira was the last monster I'd expect to not to be used
She's literally carrying me in L4
coz im usign remntar now
If you see most elite bases have Remntar in their defense along with Shez
Now they are switching to Ragnarok
Ragnarok can't hard counter every other WM Like Sherezar can though
Tell that to the elites lol I didn't even do the Ragnarok dungeon 😂
I just got Ragnarok. I’ll find a use for him 😄
My orbs count is so low that I'm just trying to finish the dungeons i started
Everyone's doing it except for you Xarius
I can't do it. I just have 800 orbs :(
which shud i rank first
No hate for Ragnarok, even though I don't like him
my ragnorak is at 105
Shez... To get his CDA
Her?
Sherezar is a male
He looks like a female
but i have stormbeard as denier though
If you’re going up 1 rank for them, get Ragnarok to 2
It says he in the description
Just saying
Yeah guys I edited while you were correcting me 😂
hmmm i see
I would rank Sherezar first
If you get him to Rank 2
He becomes op
The mega freeze is better than the r1 moves from the rest of say
If you’re going to R5, Sherezar or Ragnarok
Sherezar.. I love him
No
Because Sherezar becomes almost unstoppable denier at rank 2
And at rank 4 he's just op as heck
Even though I don't have him yet was expecting his dungeon but got Elvira
Sherezar is great, yeh 😃
Yesterday I saw Armor and Yami's stream about Ragnarok... Watched half and in that half they were getting more trouble from Remntar and Shez than from Ragnarok
Well Ragnarok seems like 2nd best at 100
Plus the X rune🤤
I don't have a single one atm
Most of the people were like.. we doing it for the X rune lol
X rune number 3, all from the last three WM 😂
I have only one X rune and that too for the Runes weekly event 😂
Although if someone did Zahra for X rune though😅
Zahra could had been so much better... Oof
All she needed was healing
Tbh I'd only do Zahra's dungeon for the nature cells to rank Charmless. Zahra is a bonus.
I mean, even Nemestrinus has healing
C'mon
Nice thought process Krampus
Instead of damage mirror she could had heals 100% all allies. Removes negative effects.
For a skill?
Yeah R2 skill
Sounds too op
Gives damage mirror
Wait what
Heals 100% all allies and removes negative effects and gives damage mirror
No
HBG does AOE 60healing that too unranked
No, instead of damage mirror there should be 100% healing
You expect more from a ranked WM 😂
One with remove negative effects is 40
She could've got like remove negative effects+ 70-80% team heal
That would've been awesome
What would had been her level 4 skill?
When does Zahra get her TT skill?
I can see an Elvira getting added to my team very shortly
Applies Reverse healing to all enemies, Applies Regeneration to all allies, Removes Negative effects
I d'know
Something not super weak
Probably still turn transfer
At level 4 Krampus
HBG is a nature WM material
Hmm well looks like Zahra is going to be my next WM project. Unless they add WM pets.
Zahra
I'm going for Shez.. the... Remntar... Then will be going for ranking up Shez...
Ooooh Burotgor's done ranking
Time to (try to) finish Ragnarok dungeon
All the best... Both of you... I'm out ... 😇
Bye 👋
I can’t believe I got it!
Many Congratulations 😃🎇🎉🎊👍🏻
I have to thank the master of paths events, I would not have had the monsters otherwise
@dreamy rock how close are you to finishing?
1 node
I got Atums BG cells as a precaution and I was worried about wasting coins but it looks like I'll need it
Ranked 1 Atums bg is nice though I guess
@hardy temple
just hope it isnt a 1 rune slot ragnarok
It was I believe @frozen crane
@dreamy rock I thought that I was crushing through it. You really are!
Never mind. I didn’t realize you were on floor 1.
I’m on the last.
Which floor?
Yeah, I have tried to buy those 2500 orb specials when they come up and saved for this.
The last floor is almost 7000 orbs alone.
Oof
Floor 3 has been the hardest. He had mirror.
Yeah, I heard floor 3 is very hard
You're on last floor
And there's me just trying to beat 2nd floor😅 😓
Yeeees!
Glad that's over
Congrats. You are I for the real treat now.
Nice job lightning
is it possible to beat elvira dungeon with like ingvar, ingvars pet and layth? or three layths? xD
@silver tulip the whole dungeon or a certain floor?
Gotcha. Yes, if you have them powered up, it should be fine.
Finally! My 2nd Warmaster. (Elvira’s mg only other one.)
does anyone know what happened or what will be the next warmaster dungeons or will we spend 1 week only with ragnarok the social said that we would see every warmaster once a month was not for today to start the thalassa and sherezar?
idk
I've seen people post about Ragnarok runes a few places saying 3 team speed is the way to go. I had thought because of the evasion, double damage, and protect positive effect trait, three attack runes could make him a one hit kill machine. Is there some obvious reason we shouldn't do this I'm missing?
Well... that's his special. You're relying on getting it which is not a common thing.
You're better off using an attacker who can give themself that damage boost through a normal move 😃
Ah ignore me, misread his stats! Three team speed makes more sense with the actual trait.
👍
@dreamy rock Congrats!
When does the gortak dungeon come out?
🤷
Thought it was supposed to be today
Rip
Shez is specially sweating since he was the one who got possessed and messed up the whole WM phenomenon
The beast mode is on
Lv 130 Ragnarok All X X X speed, Lv 130 Fatid all Team speed X X X Lv 130 Remntar all Team speed X X X @little berry how do ya think?
That was rough
I completed 3 floors in first hour😏😏
Well, my best Thunder monsters are rank 2-3, soooo ....
😄
I even had to swap some runes
I mean I used volt too haha
Alex Bone, Zyla and Thorder
I was thinking about ranking her up ...
👍
I'm going to put a life on third slot
Guys imagine if we can apply 4 warmasters in team: Sherezar, Ragnarok,Remntar,Elvira
Lol
Op battle in history
Thalassa ult and you lose
@noble coral wow that's awesome.
Ragnarok remntar and shademoon all 130
😬
Even if thallasa gets her ult she cant touch shademoon
And shademoon will reflect it
And then he wins the game
Insta kill ults better
shrezar or thalasa (ranked 4) as main denier,who is better to get 1st?
Thalassa does high pressure fluid then ult
And now your precious shademoon is rekt
Thalassa; besides denying, she also gives triple damage to your team
sherezar isnt trash
he is beast than all monsters
we know lv 100 sherezar sucks 99% angel but oh, that's 1%...
level 100 sherezar > level 100 thalassa
lv 130 sherezar > LV 130 thalassa

level 100 sherezar > level 100 thalassa
level 130 sherezar < level 130 thalassa
imo
nah
i think no one have seen yet Vali video about Sherezar vs thalassa. she killed thalassa without doing any atkk lol
you guys thinks shes strong coz of mega freeze trait disable but eh
sherezar is beast in all ways
thalassa is a one trick pony. One trick ponies fall steep. Like Voltaik
Her days are numbered 
even if she really was a one trick pony(she isn't), that one trick is still insanely good
deny the enemy for 2 turns and give your whole team triple damage while they are denied? that's absolutely insane
Yeah at 100 Shezza better. Nifty cda immune + true vision
The continued hangup of Thalassa is wild to me
@noble coral most deniers who go before thalassa could kill her team you know... Especially CDA deniers, by that logic even cyber>thalassa...
cyber is good sometimes
Cyber is just an example of a wrong logic here
Sherezar's Bodyguard (Psilotus)Today at 2:40 PM
Sherezar > Thalassa
🤔
@little berry Can you stop its not even funny at this point, you could be making ppl lose their orbs
Sherezar is better than Thalassa not ranked but Thalassa is way better when ranked
So I did 14 nodes of Remntars dungeon last week to get him to 130. The roulette wheel was broken, so after finishing I wrote SP. The fix was to grant me 15 elemental cells. I mean, even if they wanted to lowball me (which they did), I would have assumed I’d get 30 elemental cells at 2 cells per spin.
pazza, sherezar is actually better. you will see why soon
because a new monster with all skills 0cd and immune to control is about to get released?
well, i really don't see any kind of monster that counters thalassa but not sherezar
Immune to freeze + immune to trait disable 😂. (That’s not a hint, that doesn’t need to come out)
we never foresaw anticipation.
What i mean is thalassa is a 1-trick-pony.
1-Trick-Ponies fall steep.
It will also be the case with thalassa
please explain how is thalassa a one trick pony
she has 1 mechanic
remove positive + trait disable + megafreeze
All her skills are hard-centered around this.
This is very easy to counter with future strategy.
OTOH, Sherezar's or Ragnarok's gameplay isnt hard-centred. They will stand upto the challenges of time longer than Thalassa.
ok, for some reason i thought one trick pony had a different meaning
anyway, how are those things easy to counter with future strategy?
its very easy
The reason why we feel its hard to counter is because we have these notions of the limits of what SP can release
we base that on the current game mechanic
id ask if any proud owner of a 130 Thetys 2 years back ever thought of the current situation of thetys
did you ever imagine it ?
why do you think the same thing won't happen to sherezar? actually, pretty much every denier in the game is countered by elvira+faraday
including sherezar and thalassa
now we can be in denial of what the future holds, but here is the red pill for thetys fans :
The game relies on the wow factor. This inevitably means that a one-trick-pony will be dealt with the same fate as voltaik
why do you think sherezar isn't a one trick pony? CDA is becoming easier and easier to counter and so is random spellbook
also sherezar is already getting countered by dodge area so
Dori, to imagine this at a comfortable and easy-to-grasp level:
Imagine thalassa with a base speed of 3200
Imagine Sherezar with a base speed of 3200.
In the current situation, you would get more use out of Sherezar with that speed
Sherezar is a 1trick as well
^
He's a denier
Cain is a 1trick
He's an attacker
Stop using pointless terms
Almost every monster is a 1trick
Very few monsters actually fit multiple roles
Also an area trait of Cooldown protection in the future is really not an absurd thing to imagine. Using the “future mechanics can shut down x monster” is a bit pointless
Ragnarok, Remntar, Elvira are examples of non 1tricks
Except that Sherezar is not a one-trick pony compared to Thalassa
Sherezar can remove positive effects, apply dots and deny
Thalassa can remove positive effects, apply dots and deny
applies random positive to all allies
(And trait disable)
Thalassa can also apply a positive effect to allies
what?
lets be honest. thats lame
Definitely not
triple damage is lame?
First of all its not triple damage buff.. Its centred around megafreeze. Which is her one-trick-mechanic.
Compare it to random positive to all allies while denying all enemies. That is way more multi-dimesional than thalassa
It’s also unpredictable and can potentially give a monster a relatively useless effect.
you mention sherezar denying all enemies
while for thalassa you just say "centered around mega freeze"
what is sherezar's random positive centred around ?
megastun?
megapossession?
it isnt
Getting a useful positive effect
Sherezar is a deny monster
Thalassa is a deny monster
They both do the same thing
one of them is going to outlive the other.. you will see it with time.
You don't say
Errr 
Yes, thalassa will outlive sherezar with so many new dodge area monsters
Sherezar is countered by a race monster
Thalassa and Zahra are the most fragile warmasters...
xd
Tbh
True vision: Never misses
Grandmaster scroll: Wrecks most used monsters
Zyla: Use random control skill and gives dots which wittles down health
Great dispell: destroys all Status Casters and team evasion like Gakora Neobuki ect
Can deactivate cds so they're not a problem
Overall his denying ability is far better
Only argument for Thallasa is freeze hater tbh
And well it's a good argument
Sherezars deny ability and versatility is just too good imo
Fragile in what sense ?
they are fragile against the test of time
Great dispel doesn't destroy neobuki
Neobuki's trait is remove positives blocked
Soooo
they are good now but they dont have the adaptibility as much as the others
So your argument as to why Sherezar is better, is because at some point in the future, it's possible that a monster is made that counters Thalassa ?
How moronic
In that case zahra is one of the least fragile warmasters
you comfortably left out the time reference yami
"some point in the future"
not the whole crux of what i said
Oh sorry
Then again
Thallasa doesn't destroy Neobuki either
If she has evasion neither of them can touch her
Yeah
And of say there is Elvira evasion for example
Thallasa can only take care of 2 of them
Leaving one open
Sherezar can debuff all 3
Thalassa Vadamagma and a Common monster can get you to L1 in PvP
Sherezar Vadamagma and a Common monster won't even get you into top 100
Anyone who doesnt see why Sherezar is way more adaptable than Thalassa is missing a deep understanding of the game mechanic
@dreamy rock Thalassa can take out all 3
You can cycle twice then Abyssal Bottom
If you don't own Thalassa in an elite war
You will be the reason your team loses
If you don't own Sherezar
It doesn't matter
Lightning i can recreate the first part of your message really easily except with sherezar replaced with thalassa
2 trait disable skills: never misses
Abyss bottom: wrecks most used monsters
Thalassa's chosen: gives triple damage to your team meaning the enemy team is gonna have a hard time surviving
High pressure fluid: destroys all Status casters and team evasion like gakora eeltron(unless fixed) elvira etc
Overall her denying ability is far better
same was the case with voltaik
since im almost done with thalassa's dungeon, should I continue going for ranked thalassa or should i go for elvira before ranking thalassa @mortal bay
true but i made the mistake of going thalassa first
cuz i thought i would finish her r5 before starting anyone else
What pvp league are you in ?
Cuz Elvira guarantees L4
Talking about traits,
it only takes an extra-turn blocker to nail thalassa among many other things.
Also, it just takes an anticipation-blocker to nail Faraday.
Because they are both 1-trick-ponies
bouncing between l4 and l3
It only takes an extra turn blocker to nail sherezar
No it doesn't
it absolutely does
Sherezar uses great dispel
Both Sherezar and Thalassa face the same problems, Thalassa can actually deal with them
why use great dispell ?
Why use anything except plankton eater?
because like i said, sheis centred around 1 game mechanic which is easy to break.
Clearly
You are a player facing an extra turn blocker
If you have thalassa then obviously you'll simply use plankton eater to get rid of the anticipation
Watch out, he's about to contradict himself
having extra-turn blocker automatically restricts her abilities.
Boom
Having an extra turn blocker automatically restricts sherezar's abilities
Because he can't use great dispel
Lol
So if the enemy has, say, evasion
to a much less extent because sherezar has more versatility...
What can sherezar do when facing a faraday+elvira team
wizards negation
You need to build a team around countering Thalassa, you only need 1 monster to counter Sherezar
thats temporary
Great, now you haven't denied anyone
Ummm
Sherezar dies faster
She has like 70k life
No
And an armor slot
Yo Dori, I'm ignoring Smiley, you should do the same
It's pointless
At least Psi tries to debate properly
Is dying fast really an argument tho?
if you cant use sherezar as the main denier, then surprise, you use as as support
Sherezar is the most overrated and satisfying monster in the game .. how ya saying that..
not only that, the sherezar side doesnt even get to use that argument @little berry
He is fully armored
dying fast isnt a factor at all when considering robustness
XD
its the versatility that matters
What's wrong with being confident?🙄
Sherezar and thalassa are the best in the game both have high tier
ragnarok
😆
ragnarok and sherezar are the best investments
The warrior of war never lose
best investments are thalassa and elvira

elvira yeah. but thalassa....short lived... its a reality that thalassa lovers have to live with
have fun trying to pull off rag's ultimate
Thalassa lovers exist ?
🤔
zahra is a bad investment coz we will soon have 'remove x% of life' which will be a prominent game mechanic for a while
woosh
I was joking
Dont compare god in mobile game
Better?
yea
Cool
just letting u know
Ty
@frozen crane why you removed dat i was reading 😂🤣
the thing about ragnarok is you have to go multiple ways to counter him and yet he finds his way though it
ragnarok is an it
Ragnarok is nutty
Isn't Ragnarok Nebotus's dad?
@noble coral not really, thalassa has Atum's armor so unless you deal about 70k damage with barbarian's that's not true
Barbarians + Death Door
He can still do CDA on her though
@crystal vigil yeah but if anyone dont have we can do something than xD
;)
Trait disabled total blind can stop thalassa for 1 turn
Yeah, when Ragnarok was first introduced, didn't the dev that leaked him say he was Nebotus's dad? Unless I'm remembering wrong
Mine is only at 115 at the moment and it’s already a beast.
Not really
She will keep recharging
I reckon one of the pets to have Anticipation-Blocker
i didnt pay attention to rag leak that much
RIP Faraday
i thought he was weak at that time
How about simply activating thalassa's cooldowns
Drakor is beast couple with sherezar
That is relevant here
aoe mega stun?
we have ressurection blocker already. Now they are just waiting for you to come out of that shock to introduce anticipation-blocker
he has 2 aoe mega stuns btw
ones a 50% chance
ones guarenteed and is paired with a stun
I've seen many videos about thalassa she keeps diying when there is faraday sherezar and other monsters
Hy thou
Anticipation blocker + Thalassa... Just quit and play fortnite
Pubg
Lol
Farm ville
Or go outside
Alright im just gonna leave my last thought here:
if ur gonna spend money on sherezar, just spend that money instead on samael, its more worth-while
How would evasion hater work
@pine cosmos build a snowman xD
remove + damage i guess
If you remove
Yeah
There is trait protected in sherezar skills but why isn't official? I mean isn't released in all monsters
I want a pet to have Trait protection as it's status caster. That'll balance things
lol\
My guess is that Trait Protection makes Sherezar unique, in the sense that Nishant has Phantom and no one else.
What will it change?
I guess it will counter talos
aoe trait protection will be further away from now
However i think single trait protection would be a possibility
But that's the only thing i can think of that trait protector will counter
Having thalassa in team with a pet AoE trait protections lol an amazing battle
it can still be countered
There's the small matter of the Rancid Squid removing traits....
And removing positive effects
bring a team with positive protection + evasion + 2 turn evasion
Aoe Trait protections (. Forever as Neobukis trait )
Even a 2 turn status caster
No one knows.
Ok
I hope they come soon, I need me Necromancers crow and Elvira's cat
They'll arrive as soon as we spend all our orbs 😉
i think we call it the generation 6 monsters
I still have 800 something orbs. I'm planning on buying some more soon tho.
Hopefully I can get me Ragnarok
Ragnarok 😊
It's true. I spent all my orbs getting Sherezar and Necro because obviously Sherezar was the last Warmaster.... Hello....
Byee 👋
I'm back up to 1600 orbs, get Sherezar up a rank then back to Remntar but I just know that the pets will come and will be absolute Must Have....
Wish I could get a refund for Barbari, could do with those 2300 now
I'm not quite f2p, just don't spend hundreds on a mobile game at any given time although I've spent a substantial amount over the last year or so.
"hey thalassa isn't better than sherezar because there is a small chance that sp will release a monster that counters thalassa but I don't know but if they do release it, said monster will also counter sheezar but I don't care since Sherezar is the best and thalassa sucks xD!"
^
"hey it also has good moves like this and that, but thalassa also has those moves but 2x better but I don't care about that either!"
pazza, you seriously doubt they wont release a counter ?
I mean
Everyone thought Theyts seemed unstoppable
Then relics and no stamina skills came
^
Everyone thought Timmy was unstoppable
Then trait disable came out
Lightning knows his game..
Everyone thought Volt was unstoppable
Then Faraday came
But 99% of thalassa counters will also counter sherezar
no
Here we go😅
cda, stun,possession,freeze,random positive to all allies
vs
1 lame megagfeeze
The thing about Thallasa, as Psi said, is that she's a 1 trick pony
So even if she is better now, her and Sherezar both will die out as deniers sooner or later and while Thallasa will be leftr sitting in the habitat Sherezar will still see much use thanks to his versatility and great support/cursing abilities
Especially thanks to his fantastic trait, true vision, he will see much use on teams sometimes partly just to make sure that attacks don't miss
Because an attack hitting or missing, especially deny can often be the deciding factor of whether you win or lose
^ Lightning72 knows his game well
How is mega freeze lame
The same reason that makes Drakor not OP
are you afraid of drakor ?
What's the reason? If I may ask?
Stun, possession, freeze - sherezar can do it so it's not lame
Mega freeze - better than all of the above but thalassa has it so it's lame
👀
Sherezar have all things i saved 4600 orbs just to get him than thalassa lol
I dont know why people love thalassa
krampus,are you afraid of this team at all ? (All 130 with max rune and relc)
Drakor + Elvira + Faraday
Hmm
if you are, tell me why
I'm not because my timerion simply uses space time and laughs at the enemy's attempts to deal damage
I'm scared of any team with Elvira and Faraday👀
but it will also counter shezaer
The Faraday seems scary cause I can't bring in Charmless. Idk much about Drakor so Idk about him. And Elvira isn't that scary unless I'm missing something.
@noble coral Why do people love Sheezar so much?
I need ingenica
do you know why that team is bad ?
thalassa rofl stomps it
No, enlighten me as to why that team is bad.
No she doesn't
bring any attacker and thalassa and they team already loses
o wait faraday
mb
didn't see that lul
but thalassa is bulky so I think she could take a hit from faraday
now lets say:
the team is Ragnarok + Elvira + Faraday,
Would you be afraid now ??
no
As I said
Even if Thallasa counter counters both of them (Which it probably would)
Sherezar still has a lot of usefulness
Thallasa wouldn't
the thing is
Thalassa is so good
that every needs to run that monster
you realize how centralizing that is?
invalid
It was same in Volts time
you're making EVERYONE run that monster so they have a chance vs Thalassa
yeah
exactly
Again, the Faraday is scary since I can't bring in Charmless to deal with him. I don't have a proper trait disablier to deal with Faraday. That's something I'm working towards.
My team: 1.Ragnarok 2.Elvira. 3 Remntar
Ragnarok 1 Speed 1 Strength 1 life
Elvira all team strength
Remntar all team speed
Enemy team: 1.Xiron 2.Sherezar 3.Thalassa
1.Xiron all Speed
2.Sherezar all team speed
Thalassa all team speed
Who will win?
Thalassa is the new Volt
it has no counter
its the best
atm
ok?
so stop saying sherezar is the best please
A team with 3 deniers???
:/
@little berry SHEREZAR is the best
That enemy team is one of the dumbest things I've seen
Which one
Stop being so annoying
First of all why is xiron 3 speed when you have sherezar and thalassa
"LOOK AT ME IM SUCH A TARD BECAUSE IM SAING ITS SO GOOD lOl!!!"
Than you are spamming Thalassa
See Thalassa go down the POP-CHART in 6 months
Which irritates me
U are not me
pazza shere is that good, people dont realizei t
sherezar is good but not better than Thalassa
^
im not trying to say it isn't good
but its not Thalassa
Sherezar is way better than thalassa
No
Xiron is not above Thallasa
Get with the times
They're not op any more
I warned you Dori
I stopped reading as soon as he showed up
VOLT HAD NO COUNTER
Pointless
THALASSA HAS NO COUNTER
Sherezar is there
@mortal bay how many rocks do I need to bash against there head
Yea thalassa is pretty much the new voltaik, But seeing the fate of volt, we know this enthusiasm is short lived
@fresh blaze wake up mam
How about you don't use so much caps pazza
okay
😂
Go away
😂

