monster-discussion

[cinder geyser]

😂
That's all

[strong bison]

He is pretty much a combo of all of the best parts of every wm

I amnt close to done yet

[cinder geyser]

The best thing in this game is trait disabling /mega control /remove positive effects

Which thalassa have them three

[strong bison]

His trait makes it so he will never miss + anticipation wich makes him pretty much a counter for most top monsters

Random wm sc

[cinder geyser]

Lol u kidding right 😂

[strong bison]

Being able to res give double dmg and an extra + give exra turns and 100% life to ally + miror to all team + the elvira skill

And i hate thassala

I amnt done yet

[cinder geyser]

Sorry but it's fact plus you can't compare a support monster to a Control one the answer is obvious

[strong bison]

Hmm

Well he is faster...

run him 3 speed and the r4 skill...

[cinder geyser]

Well he is faster then what
You run it

And thalassa

[strong bison]

You dont have to

You can use him with almost every rune combo and he will be great

[cinder geyser]

Okay he is then what
He don't have aoe control + trait disable

[strong bison]

He can turn transfer

[cinder geyser]

Still a risk against anticipation

[strong bison]

Hmm

And thasala?

He also got anticipation

[cinder geyser]

Even so he have to turn transfer to a Control monster and who is better than thalassa

Thalassa can easily trait disable him

[strong bison]

🤔

To me again (me) it seems like you can run him in so many ways that this argument is endless

For example

I can say use him full speed with ramnther and idk who

Both get the turn ect

Or even use talos to trait desible and hack

[cinder geyser]

Hey these are facts just accept that thalassa is better

[strong bison]

Nope

Sorry

Dont see her as useful as him

And

105 vs 105 he wins

115 vs 115 / 100 vs 100 / 105 vs 105 he wins

The argument is about r4

Use him with neobuki and ramnther

Or elvira

[cinder geyser]

Thalassa is the best WM from 115+ because everything can be countered except her

[strong bison]

Lets say she remove pos ok?

Anticipation kicks in

[cinder geyser]

Abyss bottom says hello

[strong bison]

Lets say she disable ramnther trait mirror kicks in

The 120 skill?

@cinder geyser

[frosty reef]

Look thalasaa can be countered

[cinder geyser]

3 WMs against a single one isn't fair you must understand what you are saying

[strong bison]

3 vs 3 as well

1 vs 1 he wins

[frosty reef]

Use elvira basic faraday and sherezar

[strong bison]

?

Sherezar?

Here?

[frosty reef]

To counter thalassa

[strong bison]

Ok

Also

[cinder geyser]

@frosty reef uses thalassa Faraday and elvira

[strong bison]

I think that the fact that he can be an attaker a supporter and a deni on the same time is pretty nice...

[cinder geyser]

And see how that counter her

[frosty reef]

Elvira shere fara

[strong bison]

Wait

I have someone that will finish this

[cinder geyser]

Then uses thalassa Elvira and fara

[strong bison]

Use ramnther belbreath and who ever you want

My idea

[frosty reef]

My idea babari ragnarok and shere

[echo sundial]

I think I can get Rag lol

Only 100 doe

[frosty reef]

[cinder geyser]

@frosty reef my previous team smash it 😂

[noble coral]

Can anyone give me ragnarok skills with a list but very clear pls

XD

[brittle hemlock]

@noble coral just click View In Browser and zoom in.. it's clear as crystal then

[noble coral]

Haha

I have tablet and when someone sees it from iphone or android its blur

Wait got it

This should be a pinged here 😂

Im silly to scroll up or go to announcements xD

[polar valve]

ragnarok is a wild card

he cant counter thalassa by any means

[little berry]

that's true

[wanton briar]

He can't counter anything tbh... But everyone, including me, is hyped cause he is something different lol

[little berry]

What?

He's not different. He's literally a clutter of everything we've seen before xD

Unless you mean the idea itself kind of different.

Godnarok da best

Nah.

Overrrated as hecc

See what he can do..

Hm? I see a Necro with a weaker revival, most of his skills replaced with a bunch of different ones and a worse (imo) trait.

The ult IS nice though.

And the turn transfer is a biggie. But I still prefer Samael Warrior and Savia Transfusion.

Necros skills are laughable when compared with Ragnarok's

For one, Ragnarok is easy to deny.

I put the skills side by side yesterday and I LOL'ed

[high abyss]

yall see ragnaroks dad

[little berry]

Pls no him having a son is enough

[high abyss]

ringnarok

[little berry]

Here's an SG3 skill of Necro: Deals 50 dark DMG and removes negative effects from itself (LoL 😂😂😂)
Here's an SG3 from Godnarok: deals moderate metal DMG and nanovirus. Applies skill mirror to allies (😍 😍 )

[fickle acorn]

[little berry]

SG2 of Necro: 55 DMG+life steal(😴)
SG2 of Ragnarok: remove negative from all allies, heal all by 30℅, evasion to itself(🤑)

[hasty dock]

@little berry are u thinking of becoming Ragnarok's bodyguard soon? 😂

Ragnarok is an excellent support thanks to his moves, but his trait also allows him to be a pretty decent secondary denier, especially if going up against a much, much faster (running Great Dispel, of course)

[little berry]

I think he makes a great pair with Elvira

[hasty dock]

Agreed, but then Elvira is versatile enough to make a great team with almost any monster

[little berry]

Well at least I won't have to worry about a slow charmless+Elvira taking out my defense

Godnarok also wrecks the fire extra-turner

[ember plume]

Doesn't it wreck any extra Turner?

[little berry]

Not the ones who can trait disable

U know the thunder wm for example

@little berry Nebula Corporis and Fumus Corporis are both irrelevant skill since evasion got stripped from them.

@little berry wdym ?

[stoic path]

Is he better than other WMs?

[noble coral]

50%

I just want sp to make better letter on his trait and special skill

So i can read it

[noble coral]

I think Remntar/Elvira Ragnarok and Neobuki can be very nice team

[kind crane]

Sticking ya neck out there

Thalassa,Rag,Remntar would be good as well

[little berry]

What happens if Samael gives extra turn to ally, rag kicks in and does shock on that monster?

[kind crane]

Shock prevents them from doing extra turns

So if it was to froggy he’d just do one skill

[little berry]

No let's say it's warthak

[kind crane]

It wouldn’t prevent extra turn from happening, cos it’s already happened

[little berry]

Samael TT to warthak

Oh

[kind crane]

It’d just go sammy Rag then warthak

[little berry]

Can rag stop it at lvl 100

Like if its Samael+Elvira+warthak

[kind crane]

Stop what?

[little berry]

Stop the impending doom?

[kind crane]

Nope

I’m sure he’s got extra turn remove pos tho

[little berry]

Yeah it does

[kind crane]

Then he’ll just kill warthak before he gets a go

Or deny it

[little berry]

There shud be a way

OK this chat is kinda weird

Let's say it's neo+Elvira+rag
Samael+Elvira+war

Let's say Samael & war are 130

Tbh depends on what samael will do
If he goes first

Or at least war is 130

With

:GWqlabsWtf:

Samael TT to war

Rag is 100

What runes on rag and how to survive

Probably rainbow build

Rag with 3 team stamina

What about a rag with

[noble coral]

All speed

[little berry]

Rag with double life?

yeah

[noble coral]

Rag isnt a tp

Tank

He would die easy

[little berry]

You need to survive that assault somehow.. Tell me a way

[mortal bay]

You can't

[little berry]

Would 3 speed + 6 TS rag be faster than 3 speed + 6 TS sammy?

[noble coral]

So i reccomend all Speed level X or level 12 😂 lv 130 and you can survive

[little berry]

would be 120k on rag

[noble coral]

Why the hell he need life runes

[mortal bay]

And if you're using r0 monsters against r5's there's no reason you should ever be able to win

[noble coral]

Yes

Just rank that dude and you get life incerased

He dont need 100k or 200k life, just pass em to fatid and whoever

[little berry]

Forget the win.. Can he survive the first onslaught?

[noble coral]

Yes

[mortal bay]

No

[little berry]

Not even with ?

[noble coral]

Shock + extra turn , -75% removal of total life he kills with only 2 moves

[mortal bay]

No

You said warthak is 130

With 3 strength

[little berry]

Yeah

[mortal bay]

And has Elvira with him

[kind crane]

Do not give him double life

[noble coral]

Warthak with 3 strength makes all into a pile of mush

[kind crane]

Yami help me here

[mortal bay]

There's nothing Ragnarok can do

[little berry]

Hmm

[kind crane]

Unless it can deny warthak

[little berry]

Well warthak under evasion

[mortal bay]

He has evasion from Elvira

[kind crane]

Does Rag not have a remove pos?

[mortal bay]

Yh

[noble coral]

Ragnarok is supporter and little attacker

[kind crane]

Or deny trait or something

[little berry]

Oh yeah! He can just remove the positive from warthak eh?

[kind crane]

He’s a support

[mortal bay]

Warthak still kills him

[noble coral]

Yes

[mortal bay]

130 vs 100

[noble coral]

Lol

[mortal bay]

And the 130 has 3 strength

[noble coral]

Why we compear lv 130 with lv 100

[little berry]

Can it do over 120k without buff?

[mortal bay]

Definitely

[kind crane]

Mine at 110 can still kill ya

Does not have to be 130

[noble coral]

Haha

[little berry]

His remove positive skill shudve had an extra turn

[noble coral]

Shock have it

He is Anticipation which is very powerful warmaster xDdd

[little berry]

[noble coral]

When it start? I am dying to be dead

I like the desc thou

Its so nice to tricking everyone lol

[little berry]

What about a 105 Ragnarok against the same team but with any suitable allies?

(Not 130 op allies).. May be allies like ingenica

How will you survive that onslaught

[kind crane]

Ingenica with trait disable?

The one who’ll deny ya Rag from having a shot

[little berry]

Not necessarily ingenica.. Any ally

No I mean against the same team of Samael+Elvira+warthak

But this time Ragnarok is 105

And different allies

How about makugan?

Like a 115 makugan

Or a 115 cyber

[noble coral]

Cyber❤

My cyber is so strong

Among all metals mons

[patent sphinx]

So what exactly Cyber can do in this case? Remove positives and apply nanovirus to warthak before he kills you anyway?

[kind crane]

He can pray

[patent sphinx]

Yeah. Unless Rag turn transfer allied Thalassa/Sherezar Warthak will still kill you. In this particular case.

Maybe Makugan idk her damage. Idk if Remntar can kill lvl130 Warthak (+Sammy usually have tenacity shield).

[noble coral]

Remove effect 100% life,stamina and turn transfer this skill is so love

[little berry]

110 sherezar + 105 rag can counter it yes?

Let's say 110 sherezar + 105 rag +a decent charmless?

[patent sphinx]

Not really since Warthak has 0cd 60dmf move

Thalassa + rag will tho

[ember plume]

Timerion and space?

Oh sammael

[patent sphinx]

Warthak has aoe remove positives + damage

[ember plume]

True

[little berry]

Couldn't Rag run 3 Speed + 6 Team speed and activate Warthaks CDs with Grandmaster?

[ember plume]

Freaking cda all

[patent sphinx]

Warthak has 0cd 60 dmg move. With 3 X strength on him you die.

[little berry]

Oooh

[ember plume]

Stop tome

[little berry]

Hmm

[ember plume]

Time

[patent sphinx]

Elvira - can’t stop time

[ember plume]

Warthak not immune to that

Elvira is there?

[little berry]

What about 110 Sherezar + 105 Rag (attacker) + Balor ( )?

[mortal bay]

This is such a pointless conversation

[little berry]

Oof wait Elvira's there?

[ember plume]

Sammy Plus timerion

[patent sphinx]

He asked about a team of sammy-Elvira-Warthak

[ember plume]

You're own Sammy Plus time

Sammy pestilence then timerion stop time then cda

[little berry]

What about Balor as 3rd ally?

Balor wouldn't do anything.

[ember plume]

Sammy pain

Scrouge

[little berry]

Sammy could remove his pos effects. Elvira makes her team immune to his TB

[patent sphinx]

Total blind should work yeah
In that specific situation you described

[ember plume]

So cda is the best deny Plus stop time on warth

[patent sphinx]

Ohhh right Elvira lol

[ember plume]

Yeah elvira

WHAT about thallasa

[patent sphinx]

But seriously the easiest option is to get Thalassa/Sherezar with 6 ts and roll over everything unless enemy has anticipation

[little berry]

Sherezar AOE CDA -> Balor TB, Quicksand
Should kill the enemy eh

Is Warthak the only ranked monster ?

[patent sphinx]

thalassa/Sherezar + ragnarok + fara

[ember plume]

You forgot about elvira

Thus true vision also target evasion??

Does

[little berry]

Samael and warthak are 130

Elvira unranked

Oof ok is rag and his team ranked or no?

[ember plume]

Does try vision work on evasion monsters

True

[little berry]

No I don't think so

[ember plume]

Good

[little berry]

Rag 105, sherezar 110,balor 115

Hmm ok.

[ember plume]

Baylor won't work

Balor

Trait of elvira

[little berry]

Oh ryt

Rag, Sherezar and let's throw Balor out he won't work here, let's put in Kihaku with 3 TS maybe?

Good point

He could remove Elvira's evasion. And could attempt to possess Sammy and Elvira

I'm just throwing ideas out

[ember plume]

We have sherzar to do that

[little berry]

Kihaku would get killed coz of warthak getting extra turn

Ahh yeah true

[ember plume]

Ragnarok has anti

Cipation

[little berry]

Hmm what about.... Necromancer? With Rainbow build. He could res someone? Maybe?

[ember plume]

We need a foolproof one

Just no thallasa

[little berry]

Agree no thalassa

Pick the 3rd ally then

[ember plume]

My suggestion is go for Elvira neobuki and rag

Sammy pestilence

[little berry]

What about Zahra? Her extra team life could help her teams survivability.

We tried that ,that combo didn't work @ember plume

[ember plume]

Oof

Sammy timerion and ragnarok?

[little berry]

I blame this Warthak >:[

[ember plume]

Sammy pestilence on both teams

[little berry]

That cud work

[ember plume]

Then timerion cda all and stop time warthak

[little berry]

The problem is that Samael TT to Warthak first. And warthak AOE kill everyone

[ember plume]

Timerion can keep stalling warthak

[little berry]

We need to stop Sammy first.

[ember plume]

You forget that anticipation

Rag can just trait disabled blind warthak

I kinda forgot his skills,..

[little berry]

We going handicap mode here, meaning enemy goes first and has 130.
But you are a poor f2p who needs to win

Can't Sherezar do that? Have Sherezar with 3 speed, Rag & Our Sammy with 3 team speed. Sherezar could active Sammys CDs

Maybe?

[ember plume]

Wait a sec

[little berry]

@ember plume I think sherezar+timerion + rag will work

[crystal vigil]

Wait what team are we fighting

I didn't really follow this chat for a while

[little berry]

130 Sammy, 130 Warthak 100 Elvira.

[ember plume]

130 Sammy warthak and elvira

100 Elvira?

[little berry]

We need Ragnarok to win I guess.

[ember plume]

Rag has status caster

So Sammy will use Pesti

To remove it

[little berry]

We can't rely on Rags SC

It's random

[ember plume]

That's the point

It still gives an effect

[little berry]

130Warthak
130 Samael
100 Elvira

[ember plume]

So Sammy will always remove it

[little berry]

Ur right

[ember plume]

We should understand ai

So it always goes for pesti

[little berry]

What is rag's status caster?

Okay so Sammy would start with pesti giving our main speed holder a turn in who's are main speed holder?

[ember plume]

Random

[little berry]

Oh ok

[ember plume]

Sher

[patent sphinx]

Sammy’s AI often uses extra turn instead of per skills

[little berry]

Oof

Well umm

[ember plume]

So is programmed to remove effects

[crystal vigil]

Umm

[little berry]

Back to the drawing board

[ember plume]

What are ragnarok skills?

[crystal vigil]

If warthak has 0cd move

[hasty dock]

May I say something regarding this line up?

[ember plume]

Yes

[crystal vigil]

Then sherry is useless kind of

Well

I guess he can only kill 1 of your monsters

[little berry]

I say we swap Sherezar out then, Maybe Xiron instead?

[ember plume]

We have tenacity right?

Not xiron

She's removes positive affects

[crystal vigil]

Xiron can't remove warthak's evasion

[ember plume]

Sher

[little berry]

Oh.

@crystal vigil
110 Sherezar
105 Ragnarok
105 timerion
Eh

Hmmm

[ember plume]

Can ragnarok remove positives?

[hasty dock]

Sammy always starts with TT unless there's Anticipation to oppose him, in my experience

[crystal vigil]

No ramana

[ember plume]

WAIT YEAH

[patent sphinx]

Sherezar 120+ (speed) - Ingenica (ts) - whatever monster (ts)

[hasty dock]

However, a much simpler solution exists to dealing with Marikana Wraith

[ember plume]

Ais never go for an extra turn when there is anticipation

[little berry]

Let's get a Faraday then.

[ember plume]

RAGNAROK has antici

[crystal vigil]

I know demise did TT while i had evasion

[little berry]

@hasty dock suggest allies for a 105 rag to beat this team

[hasty dock]

Just bring Remntar along with Timerion, and Sammy-Warthak combo will give u no trouble

[crystal vigil]

+elvira

[ember plume]

We need ragnarok

[little berry]

Rag, Remntar and Timmy?

[hasty dock]

That's what I do anyway, and my defence team bypasses this weakness by having Necro-Sammy-Warthak

[ember plume]

My team sherzar and dark warthak

Plus ragnarok

[hasty dock]

Timmy can shut down Sammy AND Warthak (an ftp, slower Timmy) for the first turn, maybe second turn too

[little berry]

Wait, can we get a lucky ult or no ults ?

[ember plume]

Dark warthak himself can kill warthak

[little berry]

No ults. If ULT, rag wins anyway

Ok well there goes using Cryotan.

[ember plume]

CAIN

CAIN can kill

[hasty dock]

Sherezar is not really a better option in this case as he can't Stop Time Warthak, and nearly all players run the 0 cd 60 dmg move on Warthak

[ember plume]

Let CAIN go before warthak

That way we kill warthak

[little berry]

Warthak would have evasion.

[ember plume]

Sherezar

Removes it

[little berry]

Oooh yeah

[ember plume]

Plus CAIN has uriel

And jakugan

[little berry]

But then Sammy can res Warthak

[ember plume]

Cda

[hasty dock]

Is ur situation considering the Elvira-Warthak-Sammy at 130 with Xs?

[little berry]

So sherezar + rag can beat 130,sammy+130warthak+100 elvira

[ember plume]

Yes

And cain

CAIN to kill

[little berry]

Only Sammy and Warthak are 130 tho

Elvira is 100

Yeah cain

[ember plume]

CAIN can kill warthak in 2 shots and injure sammy

Charmless is even better because with jazzy can kill all

[little berry]

How much CD does Elvira's AoA 50% heal skill have tho?

[hasty dock]

🤔

[ember plume]

3

[little berry]

Elvira, has high cd

Ok so she's not healing anytime soon that's good.

Yeah

[ember plume]

Charmless kills all CAIN kills warthak and Sammy has quarter life left

[little berry]

Samael becomes useless coz of cda

Wait, how much CD does Protecting Light have? We don't want Elvira putting that on sammy/Warthak

[ember plume]

Then ragnarok can probs just finish of sammy

2

[little berry]

Ok so Elvira's gonna be immobile for a while

[hasty dock]

@ember plume how? With Death Door?

[little berry]

Death door yes

[ember plume]

C'mon I'm sure ragnarok could kill Sammy with 10k life

[hasty dock]

Just take a rank 3 Talos as ur 3rd member then, with Sherezar and Ragnarok

[ember plume]

Or just use charmless

My charmless can kill the whole team

[little berry]

What can talos do

OH SHOOT TALOS

[hasty dock]

Trait Disable + Hack

[little berry]

The nature one

[ember plume]

Talos has strength

[faint beacon]

👍

[hasty dock]

Let the Warthak deal with his own team 😂

[ember plume]

Oh yeah

I forgot about talos

[little berry]

Hmm that's good but if warthak misses its going to backfire

[ember plume]

This team can be crippled with thallasa

[hasty dock]

He won't

[faint beacon]

Metal nemesis work great with water warmester

[hasty dock]

Warthak has very high accuracies when it comes to AoEs

[ember plume]

100

[little berry]

Great

[faint beacon]

Yea

[ember plume]

And 95

[little berry]

Bois we did it

Yeah we beat it

😀

[hasty dock]

If u choose to use Talos, u might not even need to CDA the team

[ember plume]

No you shouldnt

Just cda sammy

[hasty dock]

Just make sure Sherezar and Talos goes b2b, which in all probability they should even if the 2 WMs are lvl 100

But ofc they'll need Xs for that precise attack order 😅

And Talos needs 2 speed 1 stamina

[ember plume]

Talos 2 speed 1 stamina

[little berry]

Can u suggest another f2p alternative to talos?

[ember plume]

Mhmm

[hasty dock]

🤔

[ember plume]

Baron traitor

Same thing but 3 speed

[little berry]

He's now 50% chance

[hasty dock]

U'll have to ditch Sherezar then, I'm afraid

[ember plume]

Sherzar has true vision

Baron traitor

[noble coral]

And ragnarok

[little berry]

Who other than shere

[hasty dock]

No monster can trait disable and then immediately control except Talos and R4 Thalassa

[little berry]

Oh ryt.. Good point @ember plume

[ember plume]

Baron traitor

It has trait disable possess

@hasty dock

[noble inlet]

Guys go to #ml-general-discussion and look at my screenshot

[little berry]

So just use lvl 100 Baron traitor

[hasty dock]

@ember plume that move also leaves Baron Traitor completely stamina drained

[noble coral]

Ragnarok can kill ALl with onky 2 moves

[ember plume]

That's fine

Warthak kills everyone

[noble inlet]

They are making more Elementium

[hasty dock]

Imagine if it misses on Warthak..

[ember plume]

Ik

[noble inlet]

If you would go to #ml-general-discussion

[ember plume]

It wont

[little berry]

True vision.

[ember plume]

98percent

[hasty dock]

I've seen it happen on my Bulwark monsters

[ember plume]

Oh yeah true vision

True vision

[hasty dock]

Trait gets disabled, but possess fails to land

From Ragnarok?

[ember plume]

TRUE VISION

XD

Sherzar is f2p

[little berry]

From Sherezar

[noble coral]

Still 5 day to Ragnarok hits monsterland

[little berry]

O wait is Sherezars True vision AoA?

Or is it single?

[hasty dock]

Sooo- Sherezar + Baron Traitor + Ragnarok?

[inland trail]

Aoe

[noble coral]

Its for all

[little berry]

Ok

[inland trail]

Ragnarok's is single

[noble coral]

Warthak speed is very low compeared to Ragnarok lol

[noble inlet]

Ragnarok doesnt need speed

He is ts holder

[ember plume]

I have another scenario for you where you have to use ragnarok

[noble coral]

Ragnarok doesnt need ts for me

[noble inlet]

Then what?

Speed?

[noble coral]

All soeed

Speed

[hasty dock]

Just be careful ur Baron Traitor doesn't get dazed from Sammy

[inland trail]

[noble inlet]

Why though

[ember plume]

Thallasa with sherzar with and far away with

[noble coral]

Becuase he is very nice

[ember plume]

Farady*

[noble inlet]

He isnt a good speed holder

[ember plume]

Farday...

[hasty dock]

I've seen Burotgor's debuffs getting resisted in the Sherezar test battle

[noble inlet]

Doesnt matter if he is very nice

[noble coral]

Lol you didnt used him wait for it

[hasty dock]

Because he was blinded from BloodThirsty

[inland trail]

You can still miss with daze/blind even with true vision

[noble coral]

I think after Evirira and Remntar would be 3 Dungeons!!

@inland trail chance of getting effect yes, but damage no

[little berry]

I think True Vision from Sherezar and Ragnarok add up to give 300% accuracy

[noble coral]

Lol no

[noble inlet]

Why does ragnarok having true vision matter?

[noble coral]

He possed sherezar

[noble inlet]

Its not aoe true vision

[little berry]

Why not

[noble inlet]

Only ragnarok

[little berry]

Oh

[noble inlet]

1 true vision is enough

[noble coral]

Raganrok is a war master not a warmaster

You know what i mean

[little berry]

U sure?

[noble inlet]

Im sure its not aoe

[noble coral]

Its single

[noble inlet]

By that logic he has aoe anticipation too

[noble coral]

No

[little berry]

Oh well

[noble coral]

Anticiaption true vision and hardened is only for him not for all

[little berry]

Then Ragnarok has 300% accuracy with sherezar

[noble inlet]

That doesnt really matter

Since he already has true vision

[little berry]

It becomes super true visions

[noble coral]

😂

Nothing is doubled there, we haven't double poison effect

[ember plume]

Cya gtg

[noble coral]

I NEED ragnarok hhh

See ya

[noble inlet]

I dont need ragnarok

Cuz he isnt op

[noble coral]

I dont want him to be op

[noble inlet]

He isnt op

So

[noble coral]

The game is destroyed i dont want to be at all

[little berry]

After this conversation, I am convinced that I need Ragnarok more than ever

[faint beacon]

🤦 🤦

[noble inlet]

Im convinced he isnt op

[noble coral]

Lol @little berry me too

[noble inlet]

Hes good

Hes good how he is right now

[noble coral]

@noble inlet that's what we mean since 1,2,3,4 hours

And we repeat it sgain

[noble inlet]

Not overpowered

Not bad

:GWpaboaWeSmart:

[noble coral]

His dungeon may start this Sunday or Monday

So bad i am in school tomorrow

[little berry]

Time to teach that Cain some manners.

[noble coral]

Lel

Why time dont flies to much ..

[faint beacon]

M get him for 2x runes

[noble coral]

Yeah

😜😍

I'll get Ragnarok up to rank 1

Make sure you guys have all ranked monsters to compete in dungeon

[little berry]

Time to put charmless in his place

[noble coral]

With his Anticipation this Warmaster is very completed

[little berry]

[noble coral]

@little berry HIT ME WITH TRUCK

[little berry]

[noble coral]

Lol

[little berry]

Heavy sweating from voltaik
@inland trail

[inland trail]

Another - There are like 3

[noble coral]

Lol @little berry you could honestky hit me with slime 😂

[inland trail]

I saw that delet

[little berry]

👀

[inland trail]

OK there are 6 not 3, if you count faraday as 3 different
If not then 4

[little berry]

Covers almost all books now

[inland trail]

Pandalf emotes

[noble coral]

XD

[inland trail]

Still not in volt's book/element

[noble coral]

@inland trail your leader is my best friend ya know?

[inland trail]

[noble coral]

@rocky forum :p

[inland trail]

[noble coral]

Lul

[kind crane]

Andrej I have to leave

You’re friends with a crazy person

[inland trail]

I'm not, don't know what Dman is doing lol

[kind crane]

Sort him out 😂

[noble coral]

@kind crane wdym?

[kind crane]

Don’t you worry about it mate

[noble coral]

👌

Guys hit me with a car

[little berry]

Theres a fire legend that could do that

[noble coral]

Hahahah ik

[inland trail]

Firestorm

[noble coral]

Firestorm

I think firestorm and sunblast are enemies

[rocky forum]

Hey dude 🤗

[faint beacon]

🤔

[noble coral]

Dman ....

[inland trail]

Dman

[rocky forum]

Dman 😁

[mortal bay]

Dman 👀

[kind crane]

Dman 😬

[noble coral]

Damn 😨

[rocky forum]

Yea im pretty famous 😂

[noble coral]

😂

Lol alot of Dman's

Lets become Dman 😈

[inland trail]

Lol what is going on here?

[noble coral]

😂

Sorry @rocky forum i always forget your name Dman instead of Damn 😂

[rocky forum]

We are just having a godly discussion @inland trail 😁

[faint beacon]

🤷

[noble coral]

Dman❤

[rocky forum]

😁

[quaint sphinx]

damn and dman

damn

wait I think I know dman

[rocky forum]

Heyyy its my mate xasan 😁

Everyone knows dman 😎

[noble coral]

@quaint sphinx broooo ❤❤❤❤❤

[quaint sphinx]

ow it's dman from Australia rocks lol

[inland trail]

Dman is pretty famous lol

[noble coral]

Lol

[inland trail]

Yeah there are 2 Dmans oof

[noble coral]

He is my best friend in world

[rocky forum]

The other dman is an imposter 😱

[quaint sphinx]

my friend bigN 😍 😍 😍

[inland trail]

Other Dman is stronger than you tho

[quaint sphinx]

😶

[rocky forum]

I had to let him have something since i have all the fame 😁

[noble coral]

@quaint sphinx ❤

I helped xasan to join in his ml acc he did t joined for 1 year lol

[inland trail]

You can't have it all lol

[rocky forum]

But i do

Mwahahahaha 😁

[quaint sphinx]

bigN help me to fix my account

[noble coral]

😉

[quaint sphinx]

I love him

lol

[noble coral]

Lol

[quaint sphinx]

😊

[noble coral]

My broski

[quaint sphinx]

my big brother

[noble coral]

@little berry meet my enemy @strong gate he is Thalassa fan we need beat him

😂

[tame beacon]

Ideally from someone who isn't extremely biased, do I go for Elvira or Ragnarok. I'm undecided 🤔

[noble coral]

Bro go for Ragnarok :p

He is very nice

I dont have elvira

[tame beacon]

Don't be too offended if I wait for another opinion 😛

[noble coral]

I have 3.5k orbs i dont wait for elvira xD

[kind crane]

I’d go Rag mate for the rune

Unless you’ve got enough then I’d go Elvira

[crystal vigil]

elvira is cancer so go for rag that's my logic

[mortal bay]

You planning on r0 only ?

[tame beacon]

R0 only

i'm poor

[kind crane]

That’s the most stupid comment I’ve ever seen Dori

[mortal bay]

Unless you need the rune

Elvira

[kind crane]

That’s what I said

[mortal bay]

Reliable status caster

Free PvP wins

Consistency

[tame beacon]

To be honest I have 2 X runes total so the rune will probably help. Although the cave might get me a few more eventually.

[crystal vigil]

I know, I'm just saying what i will do 🤔

[mortal bay]

The rune makes Rag more worth it

So it's up to you, how much do you value that rune

[kind crane]

The books he’s in are meh

If you’ve already got them covered I’d go Elvira

[tame beacon]

I'll probably go Rag for the rune. At least it gives me a anticipation monster thats not Sting Westclaw too 😂

[little berry]

In my unbiased opinion go for ragnarok

[kind crane]

Necro

[tame beacon]

Necro doesn't give me the rune, and i'd go for Elvira above him

[kind crane]

Hahaha

Was just throwing the suggestion out there

He’s only good 110+ anyway

[strong bison]

@mortal bay thasala or Ragnarok?

[kind crane]

Thalassa

[little berry]

Bad suggestion

[tame beacon]

Haha i'm super against getting Necro and I've yet to work out why 🤔

[mortal bay]

Thalassa

Easily, best Warmaster

[kind crane]

Thalassa trait disable

[mortal bay]

Depends on the rank though as you didn't specific

Specify*

[kind crane]

Rip that crappy ragnarok

My answer was based 120+

[mortal bay]

^

[strong bison]

R0-R3

[strong gate]

Thalassa the best

[ionic tinsel]

Necromancer= amazing resurrection

[kind crane]

R3 probs still Thalassa

[mortal bay]

Probably Ragnarok then

[kind crane]

R2 and below rag

[mortal bay]

What's her r3

[kind crane]

Idk

[mortal bay]

Fluid ?

[kind crane]

It’s decent

Lemme check

[noble coral]

@strong gate Ne

[tall cedar]

Trait disable extra turn

[mortal bay]

Hmmm

Thalassa

[kind crane]

So does trait disable. Rag can’t get extra go

[tall cedar]

Yep

[strong gate]

Yes

[kind crane]

Without true vision it won’t be as good vs nem/wm anyway

[strong gate]

Thalassa the best @noble coral

[mortal bay]

So as Luke said, r0-2 Ragnarok, anything higher Thalaasa

[noble coral]

There should be Trait protected instead of True Vision and Ragnarok will be a KING

[little berry]

Ragnarok > Thalassa all the way to 115

[strong bison]

Yep

[tall cedar]

Ragnarok fanboys here

[strong gate]

Btw if ragnarok use special skill thalassa has no change 😆

[noble coral]

@strong gate SHEREZAR😍

[mortal bay]

Time to leave

[tall cedar]

Me too

[strong gate]

Me thalassa and ragnarok fan

[noble coral]

Haha

[tame beacon]

Thanks Yami and Luke for the advice

[noble coral]

I am Sherezar a fully fann

[mortal bay]

Anytime

[kind crane]

Fanboys do pain me

[noble coral]

Haha

[little berry]

Truth hurts

[mortal bay]

If you need me ping me, I'm gonna go hide from the extra chromosome

[noble coral]

Lol

[kind crane]

Ye, I’m with ya there

[tall cedar]

Ragnarok is definitely a good mons at r0-r2 but necro is good to me because he can resurrect

[noble coral]

@strong gate i am Sherezar and ragnarok fan imagine if they work together Lmao hard battle ever

@tall cedar i think Ragnarok can do it he is ALL Warmaster 2.0 😁😀

[kind crane]

Necro is good at 110+

[tame beacon]

Ragnarok can only revive at R3

[noble coral]

🙂

[tall cedar]

Yup plus it's 50%😏

[noble coral]

XDdd

But he is perfect

[tall cedar]

Agree

[noble coral]

Omg i cant wait to get him :///

[strong gate]

Death door remove 75% life 😆

[little berry]

Ragnarok need no revive. He wins by himself 😀

[noble coral]

Lol

Yea

[tame beacon]

Chill on the Ragnarok fanboying guys, we're very aware you like him 😉

[tall cedar]

Like I said I always fall short of r2 wm at release. Have 4300 orbs rn

[noble coral]

😁😁

[strong gate]

Ragnarok and thalassa

[noble coral]

Kinda nice

But sherezar in middle

There will be no chance to kill

[little berry]

Thalassa fans don't like strategy

[noble coral]

😆

[strong gate]

@noble coral that your boy xD

[tall cedar]

Necro Elvira base is a threat to thalassa. So you need strategy😅

[noble coral]

@little berry, capten kaizo is in my team he always revenge me with that thalassa haha

[little berry]

Well now u can beat him with Ragnarok

[noble coral]

XD

Giys this shock extra turn and remove -75% life it kills every single target

[strong gate]

Anticipant lol xD

[noble coral]

😭😭

Where is SUNDAY

[little berry]

When is Ragnarok coming

[tall cedar]

Next rotation probably

[noble coral]

No

[tall cedar]

Yes

[noble coral]

It comes in 5 day

In 27 January

[tall cedar]

Yea, next rotation:GWcztMUM:

[little berry]

R u sure?

[mortal bay]

Sunday

[noble coral]

Yes

[tall cedar]

Isn't Elvira in this rotation lol?

[mortal bay]

He's not part of the regular rotation

[noble coral]

It is

Now

[tall cedar]

So next rotation is Ragnarok😜

[mortal bay]

He'll be separate to the usual schedule

[tall cedar]

Yup maybe

[little berry]

I'm all set..

[tall cedar]

Get set po

[kind crane]

You getting it @mortal bay ?

[mortal bay]

Same

[kind crane]

Or Thalassa

[mortal bay]

Ragnarok

[kind crane]

For the blessings?

[mortal bay]

His blessings are really good

[kind crane]

Relics are nice

[little berry]

one of my teammates said Ragnarok will be available on the 27th

[kind crane]

Yeah for sure

[noble coral]

Yeas

[tall cedar]

Yami likes nebotus armor more than Ragnarok😆

[mortal bay]

Finally a good amulet

[kind crane]

There’s not many

[little berry]

Where can I see his blessing?

[strong gate]

Who is nebotus mother xD

[tall cedar]

Pardon me, what does that amulet do

[mortal bay]

I like the amulet more

Go to think tank

[mortal bay]

Warmaster channel

[kind crane]

Not bad

That’s not it

[noble coral]

@brazen dune lol

[mortal bay]

I can't post it here

[kind crane]

That’s another one lol

[strong gate]

I like alces emulet

[noble coral]

Which Armor is good on Ragnarok?

[kind crane]

Supercharged has its uses

Heavy duty is nifty

[tall cedar]

Basically upgraded versions of those gold masks lol

[noble coral]

;)

[mortal bay]

Wait nvm I think Jasmin posted them already

https://gyazo.com/f416651fc31e02e7b800532014bf4b4c

[little berry]

Decent amulet

[tall cedar]

Nebotus armor is like healing mask and other is exhausting mask

[brazen dune]

Hi

[mortal bay]

Ragnarok Elvira Remntar gonna be nice

[little berry]

It basically hits the wearer lel

[ember plume]

not really

[mortal bay]

Typo

[little berry]

So it's the first suicide relic in the game

[ember plume]

the masks are different

[mortal bay]

It's a typi

Typo

[kind crane]

Rag, Thalassa, Necro would be alright 😅😛

[tall cedar]

Nebotus armor is like golden healing mask. Not same

[little berry]

Is it 'after being hit'?

[mortal bay]

Sherezar's Amulet - After hitting, if the wearer's life is above 50% deal %s points of special damage to target and removes %s points of stamina from target

I doubt both of the relics would be (after being hit)

[tall cedar]

Maybe it's hitting like Solaris sword

[little berry]

After hitting looks a bit too much

[tall cedar]

Weather's life? Wot

Wearer I guess

[mortal bay]

Mb

[ember plume]

demo I saw that afkk had 29 members

🤔

Is it full already

[tall cedar]

General discussion

[noble coral]

@merry basin what about Gortak, Barbael, Necromancer, they need a status caster

[tame beacon]

Big there's not really a need to ping Fox there

[noble coral]

shes a dev xd

[tame beacon]

Giving the first WM's a status caster has been suggested many times, but I doubt it will happen as it will be a significant change to a monster already out.

[mortal bay]

Incorrect

She's a community manager

Not a dev

[noble coral]

oh

[mortal bay]

You'd know if you clicked her discord

She has the role

-community manager-

Not

-dev-

[noble coral]

we need them to have a status caster so Ragnarok can choose their status caster maybe, what if ragnarok chooses barbael 50% damage to all allies, is this supposted to be?

[mortal bay]

No

It's not a status caster

[noble coral]

hmm confuses

[mortal bay]

It's very simple

[tame beacon]

They don't need a status caster just to buff Ragnarok. He does just fine with the ones he has

[noble coral]

😃

lol

[tame beacon]

If anything less options are better, because you're more likely to know which he will get.

[strong gate]

Yeah thalassa the best

[noble coral]

what if he gets evasion or mirror skill at begining of the battle 😮

[tame beacon]

What if he gets cooldowns protection at the start of battle

[mortal bay]

That's the whole point

[noble coral]

noo lol

@tame beacon 😂

he is great

belive me

[strong gate]

Evasion and good positive status ( won't remove +buff ) xD

[noble coral]

xddd

neobukis trait

nebuki can tievery good

[ionic tinsel]

Why do people think ragnarok is good he’s so bad

[strong gate]

No it ragnarok special skill

[noble coral]

@ionic tinsel just get him

[ionic tinsel]

No

[noble coral]

zizo we talking about ragnarok not sherezar dont change topic

[ionic tinsel]

I really hope you need rank 5 warmasters to complete the first floor

[strong gate]

@noble coral no we thalassa fan xD

[ionic tinsel]

Smiley you don’t control the conversation

[noble coral]

sherezar is best among of them

@ionic tinsel hh

[strong gate]

Ragnarok just stealer skill and trait he suck xD

[noble coral]

x)

[ionic tinsel]

Him and psilotus annoy the thalassa out of me

[noble coral]

i cant wait to get him

[strong gate]

Thalassa the best

@ionic tinsel i'm with you xD

[noble coral]

kek

[strong gate]

Thalassa fan

[noble coral]

huh

im not fan of anyone

[ionic tinsel]

Those who don’t realise Thalassa is better then sherezar are so bias towards the point that they probably think a stone could kill a god

[noble coral]

i just protect him

skinny u worng

[ionic tinsel]

No

[strong gate]

Skinny right?

[noble coral]

sherear has so overpowered skill and speed

[ionic tinsel]

You have a sherezar pfp therefore you like sherezar therefore you’ll be bias towards him

[noble coral]

he plays firstt so thalassa out of control

[strong gate]

Thalassa and necromencer

[ionic tinsel]

Nothing is op in this game except Thalassa

[mortal bay]

Speed is irrelevant

[ionic tinsel]

Speed meta ended a while ago fortunately

[noble coral]

now with speed lv 12 Sherear the god

[strong gate]

Necromencer anticipant lol @noble coral

He can give 1 extra turn to thalassa

[ionic tinsel]

when are the new runes coming out?

[little berry]

Most op thing ever was boltaik when first releases

Voltaik

[ionic tinsel]

How do you even counter Thalassa + Elvira +necromancer/faraday

[mortal bay]

I got the most defence wins against a too team without using trash Sherezar

[noble coral]

what if ragnarok gives the turn to sherezar 100% Stamina and Life, Removes all negative status effect, dude u belive me

[mortal bay]

Top*

[ionic tinsel]

Smiley your so bias

[mortal bay]

110 Necro > 130 Sherezar

[little berry]

@ionic tinsel how do u counter something that hits u 12 times before u go lol

[ionic tinsel]

110 necromancer is so amazing

Pazza exactly

[strong gate]

Sharezar and ragnarok is suck 😆

[noble coral]

yeah i seen Necro in all battle dying as hell

[little berry]

Voltaik was the best monster for its time no doubt

[strong gate]

Thalassa, elvira and necromencer/faraday

[little berry]

Theyts too

[ionic tinsel]

They don’t suck but no where near as good as Thalassa, Elvira, remtar and necromancer

[noble coral]

yeah paza

@little berry i need u there lel

[little berry]

[mortal bay]

Necro Babari Elvira counters it btw @ionic tinsel

[ionic tinsel]

Necromancer always dies first because it’s always the main threat because it’s so good duh

[strong gate]

Don't forget your 1st monster

Firesaur xd

[noble coral]

zahra :!

[ionic tinsel]

Yami I know I meant figuratively

The point is not many counters

[mortal bay]

:GWqlabsFeelsNinjaMan:

[inland trail]

[strong gate]

Gray fulbuster xD

[noble coral]

thalassa still has a counter.. Barbael,Sherezar,Faraday

[mortal bay]

Barbael hahahaha

[noble coral]

yes

[inland trail]

Barbael and sherezar not really

[ionic tinsel]

Barbara is trash

[strong gate]

Why barbael 😆

[inland trail]

Barbael succ

[noble coral]

barbael is the best trait disable

[inland trail]

[noble coral]

is way to faster

[strong gate]

Lol thalassa

[ionic tinsel]

You know how to counter every sherezar team, sherezar as a team speed holder because Thalassa is a far better denier

When somebody thinks barbael has amazing trait disable RI.P

[tame beacon]

Sure, technically Barbael is faster than Thalassa... but he'll never be runed so 😅

[strong gate]

@noble coral why barbael 😂

[noble coral]

Ragnarok can kills every Single team now haha

[inland trail]

If barbael disabled thalassa's trait and total blinds she just does her freeze hater on an ally and continues with her thing

[mortal bay]

Her freeze hater also removed negative status effects

Removes*

[inland trail]

Yes

[noble coral]

@inland trail people now focusing on thalassa 3 extra turns so dont think

[inland trail]

?

[strong gate]

Yes thalassa too good

[ionic tinsel]

Once Thalassa gets going she can’t be stopped

Anticipation is the main thing to prevent her from getting going

[noble coral]

@fresh blaze

hellp xD

[cinder geyser]

@ionic tinsel ehm trait disable anticipation

[ionic tinsel]

I activate my trap card sherezar looks gae

[inland trail]

She can, but very difficult
You need double anticipation or evasion+anticioation
Or 3 monsters who can remove negative and are immune to freeze/bulwarks