#monster-discussion

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noble coral
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Haaha

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I want him

fresh blaze
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Im Reading since yesterday the list to my team and we didnโ€™t even reach Ragnarok

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๐Ÿ˜‚

noble coral
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I will burn my self

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Lol

fresh blaze
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๐Ÿ˜‚

noble coral
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@fresh blaze Definitely go for Ragnarok it worth ๐Ÿ˜

fresh blaze
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Hadi ๐Ÿคจbuy Orbs ๐Ÿ˜‚

noble coral
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Lel

fresh blaze
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Muhahaha ๐Ÿ˜‚

noble coral
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When it comes?

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Is there any news?

little berry
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I hope he comes near the end of the month I wanna buy orbs

noble coral
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I will burn my self if it comes next saturday lol

fresh blaze
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27.01

noble coral
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Waat

fresh blaze
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๐Ÿคซ๐Ÿคซ๐Ÿคซ

noble coral
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๐Ÿ˜ข๐Ÿ˜ญ

fresh blaze
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Hahahahah

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HADDIIII

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๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

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Gogogogo

noble coral
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I xant wait to much :(

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I barely cant wait for tomorrow ๐Ÿ˜‚

strong bison
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I need orbs

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600

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So he can wait

noble coral
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Lol

little berry
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I still need 2k he better wait >:(

noble coral
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๐Ÿ˜”

little berry
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The more I look at Ragnarok, the more I feel like he should've had abomination somewhere, maybe instead of hardend? Idk.

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He just screams "ABOMINATION"

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:/

strong bison
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Yes

little berry
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Mother natures energy does life regeneration, yet Zahra doesn't have it eh

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Lol

noble coral
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Remntar + Ragnarok uuuwo

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I can get him i love himm๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜

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He steal all warmastee skill and trait

little berry
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I guess there will be more Warmasters

noble coral
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Amin ๐Ÿค—

little berry
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One of them is bound to be a game breaker

noble coral
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XD

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I love warmasters... i love to have all warmaster of every type design like ragnarok maybe other could be a Valkyria or Archangel or idk xDdd

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Maybe there will be more Warmasters than you imagine

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Lol

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๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿค—

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Warmaster Katarina ๐Ÿ˜‚

fresh blaze
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Im like where is warmaster hounds ๐Ÿคจ๐Ÿคจ๐Ÿคจ since there is ragnarok ๐Ÿคจ๐Ÿคจ๐Ÿคจ

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Not glorious enough ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

noble coral
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Lol

lapis current
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what is ragnorak

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leaked wm?

tame beacon
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Yeh, although more... officially leaked lol

noble inlet
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Yup

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Hes pretty good

lapis current
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mind linking me?

vagrant badge
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Arrghh I spent my orbs on necro so I have no orbs for ragnarok,๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

noble coral
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๐Ÿค—

delicate jasper
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Good luck with raknarok

noble coral
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I hope you to

polar valve
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so Ragnarok is a real thing?

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weird days we living

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there go my gems

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at least I wont be using them in the race, so thats a win-win

little berry
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lol

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i thought ragnarok was fake tbh

polar valve
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me too

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does anyone have his info?

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the skills and stuff

candid oasis
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too much warmasters SP should decrease the amount of gems of orbs or increase amounts of orbs...it will be a blessing

polar valve
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this is probably the last warmaster, then come the pets

little berry
polar valve
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ty

little berry
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or just scroll up

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scrolling up has a bigger pic

polar valve
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that is unreadable lol

little berry
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scrol lup

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it has a better picture

polar valve
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yeah, I did

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he seems fun

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unless ofc someone nerfs him

cold sequoia
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watt

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since when do we have a another wm?

polar valve
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just now

candid oasis
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ragnarok is amazing WM excited to see him live

polar valve
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he doesnt seem to have any useful aoe skill

little berry
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-75% life 1cd on it, that..that is too op

polar valve
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which rank was that

little berry
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idk

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does it say?

polar valve
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yup

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tier 1

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as in r0

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that will probably be changed

little berry
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i dont think so bcoz it shows black n white n those r the official skills

little remnant
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what warmaster do i get first
im broke i have 500

polar valve
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obviously ragnarok

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since he can be used at r0

cold sequoia
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I would have saved

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if I knew sp was doing something like this

polar valve
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same

little berry
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Would you think you would need the other warmasters to get ragnork like you no requirements and stuff

cold sequoia
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obvio

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You prob need 3 wm minimum to get him

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That would make a lot of sense

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or maybe he is not for heroic orbs

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a man can dream

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can someone send me the moves

little berry
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Hopefully he is free to play accessible

cold sequoia
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Like the more zoomed and clear one

patent sphinx
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Probably one of such messages should be pinned

tame beacon
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He is for orbs

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And i believe you don't need to pay more or have WM to get him. But that part I'm less certain on

pine plover
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same orbs like other warmasters...requirements for dungeons will be each floor different element monsters...no warmasters required to do the dungeons

tame beacon
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Thanks Jasmin, thought so

cold sequoia
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so ranking is not an issue ?

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you don't need rank monsters

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He is a supportish attacker

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pretty good at 100

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130 questionable

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his trait is da best tho

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I am assuming he is the antagonist for the warmasters

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Titan queen confirm?

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so many questions

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my god

pine plover
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of course you will need ranked monsters for dungeons like for all previous warmaster dungeons

lost mulch
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Let's not get overhyped, he'll be much more p2w than other WM imo. They're doing good marketing like Soul Hugger had and we know that didn't end up f2p at all.

pine plover
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why should he be more ptw then other wm?

lost mulch
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tougher restrictions, just my guess

cold sequoia
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depends

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we are yet to receive dungeons information

pine plover
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no...i told restrictions about 5 times now

cold sequoia
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I would say to wait it out

lost mulch
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For real? Do you know for sure?

pine plover
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thats the info i have from SP...if they dont change last minute

tame beacon
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Jasmin's info has been very trustworthy for this yes

lost mulch
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well ok then, I trust you ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

kind crane
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Should my attacks be missing if sherezar is on my team?

tame beacon
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Only 50% ones should have a chance of missing. Unless you're total blinded. Or maybe blinded and against Bulwark

kind crane
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Nah I ainโ€™t blinded or anything but It just wonโ€™t land

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And itโ€™s not even 50% accuracy ones

tame beacon
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Hmm who's using what move against who?

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You're not trait disabled or something really obvious? ๐Ÿ˜›

kind crane
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Nah for sure not lol

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I think it was like Francine vs frostbite

noble coral
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He is like a ghost with a stick

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Some people say that he has no element

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without element... without weaknesses to elements

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Some say that he has Legendary+Legendary element double x)

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Relics are decent ๐Ÿ˜Š

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Nebotu's father lol

crystal vigil
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CDA doesn't seem to be boosted by true vision, so i'd assume that stamina drain isn't either, so if it was the frostbite using the stamina drain(which for some reason doesn't seem to have a 100% chance of landing) that could be the cause

cold sequoia
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don't compare nebotus to raganork

tame beacon
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That's his lore though...

cold sequoia
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I am exited for raganork but at the same time a little buff on r4 skills won't

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WHAT

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I don'tt see the lore

tame beacon
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It was what one of the staff said last night. He's Nebotus' father

cold sequoia
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hows he related to the story tho

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is he antagonist for the wm's

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lmao the father is x1000 better than the son

tame beacon
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He stole some of their power, and used it for himself. Including raising the Titans to fight against the WM's

cold sequoia
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so he is an antagonist

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pff a wannabe wm

wanton briar
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Nebotus doesn't want people to know that Ragnarok is his father. Hence all his life he has kept low and hasn't shown his true powers.

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He just copied Darkzgul cause dark was his childhood friend

cold sequoia
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Nebotus awakned '

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awakened*

noble coral
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Yes

tame beacon
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I believe he's a self proclaimed Warmaster. Decided himself that he was worthy of the title.

cold sequoia
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oof can't believe sherry died for this guy

noble coral
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So also 10 days he will come out -_-*

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๐Ÿ˜”

cold sequoia
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nah make it a month

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I need to grind those orbs

noble coral
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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Lol i have enought ;)

cold sequoia
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ye not everyone knows raganork is coming lol

noble coral
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๐Ÿ˜‰

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This ragnarok is umm lol i want him

cold sequoia
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He is decent

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his trait is really good tho

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skills is a 60% good compared to all wm's

noble coral
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But Anticipation is for all?

cold sequoia
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and his role is probs attacking support

noble coral
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๐Ÿค”

cold sequoia
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Nah its his own trait

noble coral
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;)

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Yeah he is amazing in all ranks

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I wanted every warmaster to be like that xD

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His speed 3552 i think is nice

cold sequoia
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he's not a denier

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so not much of a significance

noble coral
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๐Ÿ‘

crystal vigil
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wait

noble coral
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Thalassa and ingenica still can counter

crystal vigil
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is everyone who isn't a denier trash now?

noble coral
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XD

cold sequoia
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no

inland trail
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He doesn't have any true role, support is his best I guess

crystal vigil
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yeah, he's a support

cold sequoia
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I just said the speed is not much of significance

crystal vigil
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oh

noble coral
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Support+buffer

cold sequoia
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He's a support attacker

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but lacks AOE and extra turn skills

inland trail
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Well, support with a high speed can go before your attacker and give damage boosts/remove negative etc.

crystal vigil
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usually the only thing that matters with support monster's speed is that their speed is faster than your attacker's

cold sequoia
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excluding the revive skills

noble coral
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Ragnarok is pretty nice still more cool without Aoe attacks ;)

cold sequoia
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I have mixed emotions about him

gilded coyote
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He has 3 extra turn skills

cold sequoia
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his design trait re at peak

gilded coyote
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If he had AOEs that would be a touch broken, on that aspect hes balanced well

cold sequoia
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@gilded coyote seems like SP decided to take your titan god thing

gilded coyote
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Seems more in line with Notungr with the special/uses all elements

cold sequoia
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I am not talking about TT

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extra turn for himself

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but tt can be used on himself

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so ehh

gilded coyote
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My biggest gripe is his RNG trait

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Very cautious about that, it's a worrisome precedent, if it was something smaller it could be okay, but any WM status caster is getting to that line

cold sequoia
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A new trait is much better than a combined

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like yours for the titan god

gilded coyote
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His design seems to be a departing from the general art style here and there also as I've seen pointed out

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Yea I agree, although I will without trying to toot my own horn or anything lol, I do appreciate you bringing him up though :)

mortal bay
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He's going to be so broken

inland trail
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How so?

mortal bay
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"Random" status caster

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Meaning you pretty much can't prepare for that part of the battle

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The fight can be decided based on what caster you get

inland trail
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Well, that's true, but his books have monsters who can remove positive, so you can at least partially prepare

mortal bay
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That part doesn't matter

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Run him in a 6ts denier comp

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How do you beat that ?

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You run a 3ts set up with Ingenica and a denier

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Then you get outspeed

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If you try to outspeed the comp

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They could get evasion

noble coral
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Who is good Ragnarok or Necromancer? :P

mortal bay
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Or skill mirror

tame beacon
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Random SC, and enough good moves that its going to be hard to predict is moveset. It's gonna be a real gamble!

inland trail
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Depends what denier, you can always bring monsters who are immune to the denier's form of denying

slow imp
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Ragnarok?

gilded coyote
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The only way to ensure you win is a 6 TS Sherezar 130 with 3 X spd

mortal bay
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Sherezar could try using great dispel into deny but he has anticipation

gilded coyote
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Great dispel then aoe cooldowns or something

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Oh right anticipation

mortal bay
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Anticipation

tame beacon
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Anticipation + Shock extra turn move

noble coral
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Umm๐Ÿ˜

inland trail
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Or bring monsters who are immune to the denier's form of denying?

mortal bay
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And if the denier has multiple ?

gilded coyote
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You have zero idea to know what denies they are running

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You can only plan for so much

inland trail
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?

gilded coyote
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Well on Ragnarok

mortal bay
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Ruby can apply random deny, so can Sherezar. Thalassa can disable trait

inland trail
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You know who you're fighting, so you can predict, and there are ways to 'force' the AI to start with a certain skill

mortal bay
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Sherezar Ragnarok Faraday

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6ts

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Dark Faraday

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How do you beat that team

tame beacon
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Leave the battle

gilded coyote
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๐Ÿ‘†

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Lol I dont fight that fight that's for sure

mortal bay
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And that's only 1 combination

noble coral
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Xd

inland trail
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Well, elvira+anticipation can deny sherezar, faraday starts with the aoe so only 'threat' is ragnarok

noble coral
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Guys which monster can tie with ragnarok?

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๐Ÿค”

gilded coyote
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I just don't want a cookie cutter precedent where everyone needs to have one monster to get ahead

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Stifles creativity

inland trail
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A lot of monsters are better, he's good, but not close to being the best

cold sequoia
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Thallassa will def have a hard time beating him if he is paired with the right monsters

slow imp
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Ragnaroks skills out?

cold sequoia
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Btw is there more info about the room

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like how it functions

faint beacon
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๐Ÿค”

cold sequoia
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not warmaster

inland trail
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Also, that team you mentioned can't deal a lot of damage Yami, so samael with a life can beat it too

cold sequoia
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but just a quick q

mortal bay
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I deleted the ss

gilded coyote
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Curse

inland trail
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10%

gilded coyote
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They would DOT you to death

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That isnt an argument about damage

mortal bay
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Dark Faraday

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Curse

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Random torture

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-75% life

inland trail
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Also, healing amulet, tenacity, pain is only 2 CD

gilded coyote
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That doesnt cut it

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Period

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Not against an increasing curse and 3-4 other DOTs

inland trail
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And you can bring babari for example, DOT protection

gilded coyote
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And then do what?

mortal bay
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So you started with faraday Elvira Sammy

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Who's Babari replacing

inland trail
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So that team can't deal enough damage to kill you

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I never started with them

little berry
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Ragnarok + Necromancer + Remntar

inland trail
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Just said elvira+anticipation, not faraday, nor did I mention sammy in the same combo, but sammy, elvira and anticipation works too, thanks for the option

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Sherezar won't be removing the evasion because of anticipation, so you can safely play

mortal bay
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You don't run great dispel

inland trail
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The extra turn revive won't happen because of anticipation

mortal bay
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You run the block positive aoe

gilded coyote
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Anticipation doesnt block anything

mortal bay
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The ai will ignore anticipation

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To revive

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Necro ignores it

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Why wouldn't Ragnarok too

inland trail
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He won't perform any extra turn skills with anticipation
And even if it does, that can benefit you

noble coral
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Ragnarok +elvira+ Faraday or Ragnarok Thalassa and Sherezar

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Hhhh lol im getting tired xD

inland trail
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No team is unbeatable, there are ways to get around everything GWvickyNueWink

slow imp
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Where did you found his skills?

mortal bay
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Scroll up

noble coral
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XD

mortal bay
slow imp
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Thanks

noble coral
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๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ‘

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His desing is thicc

inland trail
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One of my fav designs GWomoDrakeYea

cold sequoia
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for sure

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he has a really good design

noble coral
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๐Ÿ˜€

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I just want to see his movements

fresh blaze
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I found him ugliest ๐Ÿคญ

noble coral
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I need to find his movements like: walking, attacking, special, defeating

tame beacon
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that is findable ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

inland trail
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Vali GWnekomakiAngeryBOYE

fresh blaze
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But he is born this way
so I accept him

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๐Ÿ˜‚

inland trail
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He might be my favourite WM design wise GWchadThink

noble coral
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In taringa isnt? :/

fresh blaze
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He is there

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On this evil page you just mentioned๐Ÿ˜‚

noble coral
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@fresh blaze mi hermana xD where can i see his walking, attacking?

fresh blaze
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Wait till release or check the evil page

kind crane
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I think Remntar/Elvira is my favourite design

noble coral
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Remntar โค

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Definitely need Remntar in battle

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Remntar And Ragnarok ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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Thallasa go 1st remove trait & freeze faraday then mega freeze to all enemy ragnarok remove life and apply torture to enemy then sharezar use grandmaster scroll

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Lol

inland trail
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Remntar design GWunuDrakeNo

hasty dock
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Ragnarok looks more like an ancestor of Krugbo than Nebotus

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His head is literally like the Juvenile stage of Krugbo... But then I like creepy one-eyed freaks ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

inland trail
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Maybe nebotus looks like his mom more GWkazuOuO

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And krugbo is a little brother GWactionSmolConcern

hasty dock
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Could be... ๐Ÿ˜‚

noble coral
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Anyone know how will be Dungeon of Ragnarok please tell me

frozen crane
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what element is ragnarok

noble coral
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Its like a ghost no element:Legendary+Legendary could be xD

cinder geyser
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Think it's warmaster restrictions

noble coral
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Nah

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Its not Warmasters restrictions

lunar belfry
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rag is special only

noble coral
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Rag has no element no weakness

cinder geyser
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I won't be surprised if that happens

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Sp can't make it Only special

noble coral
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And his dungeon restrictions will be Elements

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Random elements

cinder geyser
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Or maybe floor one dark
Floor 2 magic floor 3 earth etc

noble coral
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So be sure you have all ranked monsters till group 1,2

lunar belfry
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how about we just wait and see

noble coral
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Nu lol

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Like @pine plover said: same orbs like other warmasters...requirements for dungeons will be each floor different element monsters...no warmasters required to do the dungeons

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:)

echo sundial
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Wait

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Whatโ€™s happening?

polar valve
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new warmaster coming

cinder geyser
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Doesn't he have a Pet?!??!?

echo sundial
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Seems cool

kind crane
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The pet is called Bob

tame beacon
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His pet is his son, Nebotus ๐Ÿ˜‚

timid hornet
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Wonder who's Nebotu's mom lol GWchadThinkeyes

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Not exactly looking like his father ๐Ÿ˜œ

cinder geyser
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Technically sons take their physical characteristics from their grandpa's /grandma's
(don't ask me why it's complicated)

little berry
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i will ask you why its complicated

kind crane
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Not in this chat surely

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Begone

latent anvil
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Cool, good design.

little berry
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yep

noble coral
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He captures all xD

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I think its a shee looking at ...her body lol

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x(

brittle hemlock
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@noble coral taringa images arent allowed here. remove

strong bison
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XD

noble coral
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Lol ok

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I cant remove it ....

strong bison
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Yes you can

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Just do it

noble coral
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It say copied to clipboard

strong bison
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Make your dreams come true

noble coral
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Oh done

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Lol

brittle hemlock
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thank you ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

noble coral
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๐Ÿ‘

tame beacon
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I very much doubt that. Itโ€™s lore, not a promise ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

strong bison
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@little berry lets hope man

noble coral
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i just wonder about how to get that ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

polar valve
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ragnarok seems to be the main enemy acc to the lore

median thicket
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We can obtain Ragnarock like the other WM or it's going to be Something special and same orbs cost?

little berry
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It's probably going to be special restrictions with the same orb cost

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Hopefully

brittle hemlock
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To be fair, Ragnarok can fill a fair amount of holes in the lore. Because he's a master of all elements, he could gradually accumulate different powers over time similarly to All For One in BNHA. He could be the one who granted Haku and Jabaline power to fuse into Jakugan, he could have granted Dr Viktor the powers to extract and craft etc...

kind crane
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Or he coulda just swanned up one day, billy big balls and thought letโ€™s have some fun

noble coral
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x)

brittle hemlock
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"billy big balls" alright this one got me ๐Ÿ˜‚

noble coral
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Cant wait to get him ๐Ÿ˜Š

kind crane
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I have my moments

little berry
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sherezartars still gonna b like

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โ€œSherazar is betterโ€

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... He kinda is tho ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚

ionic tinsel
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He is but I get what you mean

noble coral
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Does anyone know that the Great Dispel isn't removing all effect from all monsters just in my team and gains extra turn ..

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They still stunned,freezed but they didnt get removed

polar valve
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thats one for the bugs channel

noble coral
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Thats nice ๐Ÿ˜

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I dont want help their team

ruby knot
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๐Ÿค”

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Pure legend war master when

noble coral
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In 9 days

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As they said :)

cold sequoia
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oof What if raganork is the eye of monster legends

lost mulch
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I thought of that, but then looked at the picture and saw a difference in the eyes ๐Ÿค”

delicate jasper
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Raknarok the fuse of ghouldmon and alphamon XD

little berry
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Does shock block anticipation?

delicate jasper
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No

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Who can tested?

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Pls

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I dont know

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XD

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And i dont have monsters with anticipation and shock

little berry
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I guess Ragnarok is the new alpha

noble coral
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Lol

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Ragnarok Nebotu's father :)

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Crygbo or whatever name is mother of nebotus lol

delicate jasper
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Hmm

little berry
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Ragnarok best WM at 105

delicate jasper
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Yes but always elvira the best

kind crane
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Shezzaโ€™s wench has abandoned his post

delicate jasper
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XD

little berry
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Sherezar still best

delicate jasper
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Yeah

little berry
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But Ragnarok best at 105

delicate jasper
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Elvira qlone her evasion

mortal bay
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What wm has a really good r3 skill ?

delicate jasper
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XD

kind crane
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Elvira

delicate jasper
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Conclusion all warmasters the best XD

tame beacon
#

Zahra? ๐Ÿ˜‚

mortal bay
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Trash Barbael

kind crane
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Thalassa

little berry
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Runes for Ragnarok?

mortal bay
#

Ts

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Rainbow

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2ts 1 strength

kind crane
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Speed ftw

little berry
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Why does he need strength

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He's not an attacker

mortal bay
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Because he's a great attacker

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2nd highest power stat in the game

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With some decently powerful moves

kind crane
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Might run it speedtX speedtX lifesX

little berry
#

But his attacks are 40&50

tame beacon
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3rd* Makugan takes 2nd these days

mortal bay
#

And his power stats is like 3696

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Pretty sure he's got a 60 power skill

tame beacon
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But he does have 3696 power yeh, a 60 power skill, and a 40 + extra turn

little berry
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Just one skill

faint beacon
#

๐Ÿคท

mortal bay
#

3696 power with a 50 damage skill is like the same as 3500 power and a 70 damage skill

tame beacon
#

Ehhhh not quite Yami ๐Ÿ˜…

little berry
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No way

faint beacon
#

๐Ÿคท

tame beacon
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3500 power + 70 = 3696 + 65

mortal bay
#

Close enough

little berry
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The 3500+70 will do way more DMG than 3696+50

mortal bay
#

I meant 60

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Mb

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The earth skill

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Not to mention elemental advantage

kind crane
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Hounds is gunna have an easy bg maych

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Js ๐Ÿ˜‚

mortal bay
#

We are ?

kind crane
#

Ye for sure

little berry
#

Even his level 100 skills are hard to pick

faint beacon
#

๐Ÿค”

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Which skills for 105

little berry
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There's team skill mirror, life regents, self evasion, extra turn, CDA, remove 75% life, trait disable+tb

faint beacon
#

๐Ÿค”

little berry
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Got a pick 4

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Life regents has always been handy for me

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Self evasion looks like a must have coz it heals allies, so does aoe skill mirror

tame beacon
#

At R0 I would probably default to skill mirror, self evasion, extra turn, total blind or cda. Swap in 75% life for tanks/zahra, swap deny if needs be.

faint beacon
#

๐Ÿคพ

little berry
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I think -75% life will be a KO most of the time

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U do shock + extra turn, then remove 75% life

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Isn't that a ko

tame beacon
#

Yeh but then i'm running him as an attacker. If he's running support then I'm less fussed about him getting a KO, as my attacker can probably do that job too ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

little berry
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Boy what a monster

noble coral
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i think isnt a ko becuase if he has for examle 1% health and u remove tat -75% life u incerase his life

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like equalizer

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or gretchen skill

crystal vigil
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I'm pretty sure the skill says REMOVES 75% of total life

noble coral
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its like as i said you"ll try it in battle soon

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its not to complicated

cold sequoia
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your making it complicated tho

noble coral
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you guys dont belive me

cold sequoia
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obvio

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all of this is un confirmed informations

noble coral
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if u have gretchen use her -45%of total life to anyone for example IGursus have only 1/45000 hP amd u use -45%of total life to remove than you cant kill him it will incerase life to 24,750 from 1 Hp

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like 50/50

cold sequoia
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thats equalizer

noble coral
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gretchen

cold sequoia
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brudda if your gonna say something please make it to the point

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what are you trying to say

noble coral
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scroll up

mortal bay
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At least try to make sense

noble coral
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hope he come soon anyway i dont like that skill

cold sequoia
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I don't want him to come soon

noble coral
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that you guys are talking about

cold sequoia
#

sp should take its sweet time coming up with a different way of gettinh him

noble coral
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he'll come in 9 day xd

cold sequoia
#

and also buffing

noble coral
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27/01

mortal bay
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Just gonna point out, the current dungeon cycle doesn't match his release date

cold sequoia
#

^

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but he is less of a concern to me

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the room is the event I am looking forward to

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not the room but I call it like that

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its that exploring the 4 door thing

noble coral
#

๐Ÿ˜„

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Im happy now xD

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Its like dead vision of Nox, it extract -75% of total life to enemy

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thats a Ko @little berry ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

cold sequoia
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it doesn't extract

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its just remove

noble coral
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:p

cold sequoia
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its not life steal

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:p

noble coral
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i dont know all english lol

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deals some damage of the skill applies shock -10% life or 15% idk xd gains extra turn and removes that -75% life omg thats Amzaazing

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79 stm cost ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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well thats op skill so it should be

faint beacon
#

๐Ÿค”

cold sequoia
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Its a single target

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not broken at all

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and a high stamn cost

noble coral
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yes

ionic tinsel
#

Did alpha just say ragnarok best warmaster at 105

lunar belfry
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how's draining 75% hp op

ionic tinsel
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Thalassa, necromancer, Elvira, remtar are all better at 105 maybe a few others

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Itโ€™s not

cold sequoia
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at 100 he is one of the best

noble coral
#

Agree with Deadbush ๐Ÿ˜

cinder geyser
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@cold sequoia plz sherezar fan boys are enough
WE don't need ragnarok ones

noble coral
#

?

cold sequoia
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@cinder geyser kid its facts

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He has a team skill mirror at 100

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and 75% total life remover

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He's pretty solid at 100 compared to other wm's

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so please

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don't point me as a fan boy when I am clearly just stating facts

noble coral
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@cinder geyser what your trying to mean bout that?

tall cedar
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elvira heccs them all

cinder geyser
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I didn't say your a fan boy but keep saying best over and over is annoying we get it that he's good and that's going to rise some fan boys

noble coral
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He is good thats fact

cinder geyser
#

But where is the point in saying that over and over
WE get it

tall cedar
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all wm are good. you need to know to use them

noble coral
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Yup

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Especially babari xDDD

cold sequoia
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No one said he is the best

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He is ONE OF THE BEST

noble coral
#

๐Ÿ˜…

cold sequoia
#

I am pretty sure many people agree on my statement

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He does job pretty well as a attacking supporter

noble coral
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๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ

cinder geyser
#

That's pretty obvious we are smarter to know that ourselves

cold sequoia
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Boi I think you just want to argue

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I only said that cause we were on the topic of whch WM's were doing good at each rank

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If you wanna go on about being smart and you already knew it

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good for you

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peace out

tame beacon
#

Should make it easier to find the moves for you all!

cold sequoia
#

Thengu

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@tame beacon any news about da treasure room thing?

tame beacon
#

Just that it exists, and is in 7.7. Nothing new though ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

cold sequoia
#

oof ok

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still no lore

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oof

misty elm
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What lore? I see no lore in the game, the monsters are just puppets in your habitats ...

cold sequoia
#

lore about raganork

misty elm
#

Yeeeeaahhhh .....

candid oasis
#

thalasa or ragnarok ?worth to do 1st?

misty elm
#

Currently? Save you orbs ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

gilded coyote
#

Ragnarok is definitely another that is perfectly viable at lvl 100

noble coral
#

๐Ÿ˜Œ

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@drowsy jackal you blocked on writing

drowsy jackal
#

SP back at it again with making more game-breaking monsters. I'm really starting to think that SP doesn't believe in nerfs. Ragnarok and Thallasa are way too OP and are a pain to counter. The worst part is that normal monsters can be as strong as WMs sometimes. It's gonna be tough for me to come back to the game.

noble coral
#

๐Ÿ™„

mortal bay
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Ragnarok isn't op

noble coral
#

Yes

mortal bay
#

His SC is inherently broken but he's not OP

noble coral
#

He just stole some amazing skills from All warmasters and few skills from itself he completes it with the best

gilded coyote
#

What Yami said

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He himself is actually balanced with only single target skills

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RNG trait though? Not great

misty elm
#

He will be OP! OverPriced ๐Ÿ˜„

little berry
#

He's in a lot of books

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Underworld, undead, evil, families, spirits

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Exclusive

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Armor, amulet

noble coral
#

:O

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I cant wait to get that guy, i'll be hapoy to spent all my tiny orbs on him

little berry
#

I was saving up for sherezar

noble coral
#

Me too : (

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๐Ÿ˜‚

little berry
#

I need more orbs

noble coral
#

But life is struggle so i have to go more up

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I am fine ๐Ÿ˜

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This warmaster won't get any weakness but if Zahra puts Legendary weakness it will hurt him x)

little berry
#

Looks like you have enough to get Ragnarok

noble coral
#

Yes bro

little berry
#

Great

tall cedar
#

I have around 3200

noble coral
#

I like dat Archangel's Blessing skill

little berry
#

Will there be blessing for his dungeon?

noble coral
#

Yeah

little berry
#

Nice

noble coral
#

Not good relics but they can work good

little berry
#

Well at least he will stay alive with some shield

noble coral
#

๐Ÿ˜Ž

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Lol i cant wait to try his magic movement skills

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Like fire attack will make fire there and so on lol

little berry
#

What skills will u choose

noble coral
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All group 2 and that metal skill in group 3

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I cant go for death door

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Its so much stamina cost

little berry
#

Ill just focus on taking my Necromancer and Zahra to 130 ๐Ÿ˜„

gilded coyote
#

Why is every going on about the stamina cost

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Energizing amulet is a thing

#

0 issues with stamina

noble coral
#

Hm ๐Ÿค”

little berry
#

The gold one?

tall cedar
#

Bronze

wide python
#

I'm almost sure SP wants us to discuss him what are thoughts are about Ragnarok

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so if someone thinks he is to op maybe share why lets look what monsters can take him out

slow imp
#

He definitely is challenging. I can tell that

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But too op idk

tall cedar
#

Not knowing his sc, I won't say a word about being op. He's still like other warmasters but of different element attacks

#

Looks like he will be getting immune to torture sc๐Ÿ™„

wide python
#

also think on combinations with other monsters will he bring change

delicate jasper
#

Random status caster

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Always random

gilded coyote
#

I think he's a great thought process precedent in monster designing for SP, probably the best support around with his skill set, single only moves to balance all the stuff they can do, he is in no way OP. My only issue is with his Random SC trait, I fear what bringing this variable into battles means for future things, it opens doors that I don't care to have opened. As to counter I would just run the typical stuff people would to combat Elvira/Remntar. Ingenica still shuts him down with every status caster but Elvira's, which at that point depends on the rest of your team and your runes

little berry
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Imo dont change anything. He's perfect as is..

gilded coyote
#

Get rid of random SC, give him something unique to himself, that's what my opinion boils down to

mortal bay
#

Agreed

#

Everything about him seems pretty spot on

#

But having a random aspect being his SC

#

Still not a fan

#

You're fighting a dice more than another player for the most part

delicate jasper
#

If you have good luck well

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xD

little berry
#

Well if he rolls Sherezar's SC...

#

I like the random sc. It's unique to him.

mortal bay
#

Hardly unique

sand coral
#

Adding more randomness to any sort of competitive game is never a positive change

little berry
#

Ruby's random control skill was a positive change.

crystal vigil
#

how?

tall cedar
#

Everything got broke after nemesises came out๐Ÿ˜‚

little berry
#

You couldn't be sure of countering her with immunity to stun for example. Things like that lead to better competitive gameplay eventually

mortal bay
#

Randomness isn't healthy for competitive gameplay

#

If me winning is down to a % then it's stupid

#

No matter how good I am, it will always be a % that decides if I win or not

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So some braindead player can get a lucky % and beat me, hilarious

#

That's the same reason special skills are pointless

#

If you need a special to win a battle you don't deserve to win at all

little berry
#

This whole game is based on randomness. Always was. The Accuracies? The traits?

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It never destroyed any competitive player so far

noble coral
#

@wide python he dont need to be chaged he is perfect honey โค๐Ÿ˜€

mortal bay
#

And that's where you're completely wrong

#

Literally the opposite to everything you just said

hasty dock
#

Indeed

#

Looks like u never had to put up much with losing to nasty specials at clutch moments and consecutive misses on monsters ultimately leading to defeat @little berry

little berry
#

So now shall we change all the accuracies to 100%?

noble coral
#

XD

hasty dock
#

Nobody is saying that

mortal bay
#

Smaller teams don't have to worry about defeats as much

noble coral
#

Thats random warmaster status caster is that good?๐Ÿ˜‚

hasty dock
#

But u're wrong about randomness not screwing competitive players

mortal bay
#

There's no rep to uphold

#

Not status to retain

little berry
#

Depends on what you mean by 'screwing'

hasty dock
#

And also by what u understand by "competitive"

#

I guess it'd be asking too much of a player who insists that Sherezar is a female...

noble coral
#

..

little berry
#

Sometimes you get unlucky, some days are luckier.
It's the way the game has always been and you still got addicted to it

hasty dock
#

No offence, but I'm really yet to see a lucky day ๐Ÿ˜…

little berry
#

Randomness is part of what hooked you in

hasty dock
#

Absolutely not !!!

mortal bay
#

Definitely not

sand coral
#

Losing to accuracy or because Ruby tried to double possess an immune to possession target is not competitive or a good addition.

little berry
#

Whether you realize it or not

hasty dock
#

Its the sense of strategy and what careful planning can achieve that got me hooked

#

And I'm sure its the same for many others

sand coral
#

I'll gladly lose a battle that I was out smarted in, but to lose because something I have no control over didn't go in my favor, is silly

little berry
#

The game is hardly a magnet for strategists.
If you need no luck, but pure strategy, play chess

hasty dock
#

If that's ur stance, maybe u'd be better off playing dice games ๐Ÿ˜‰

noble coral
#

We should discuss abot Ragnarok ๐Ÿ˜Š

little berry
#

Oof

wanton briar
#

No, your reasoning is wrong I'm sorry. I was just reading the posts and had no intend to reply.. but....

little berry
#

I'm fine with the randomness in this game

misty elm
#

So you like the chests?

hasty dock
#

That's ur personal outlook, keep it if u wish, but don't assume the same for others

little berry
#

I like the ones I can afford but don't always prefer it

misty elm
#

So you like your money spent on some potentially worthless item/monster?

little berry
#

almost no chest has worthless stuff

misty elm
#

potentially

noble coral
#

Lol

little berry
#

I hardly have any need to buy a chest with loll 100 L

crystal vigil
#

ummm

wanton briar
#

Tell that to people who bought the Nemesis chest and got cells of breedable legendaries lol

crystal vigil
#

almost all chest have something useless

little berry
#

almost

#

cough cough

crystal vigil
#

well, the ones that don't have worthless stuff are the keys ones

#

i don't think there's any other chest without anything worthless

misty elm
#

And they cost money, not gems ...

hasty dock
#

๐Ÿค”

#

@crystal vigil the VIP chests are good value

misty elm
#

maybe

crystal vigil
#

yeah, they are usually good

wide python
#

lets keep it to Ragnarok ๐Ÿ™ƒ

crystal vigil
#

but they still have worthless stuff like osur

misty elm
#

Ragnarok beats Osur, so on-topic again ๐Ÿ˜„

wide python
#

I changed the name

little berry
#

Without randomness the game is like an auction 'pay this much and take your reward'

crystal vigil
#

with it it's 'pay this much and have a x% chance of taking your reward'

misty elm
#

maybe, but the game relies too much on randomness

hasty dock
#

Lately, that is...

little berry
#

There's a reason traits like hardened exist

wanton briar
#

Ragnarok having random cast shouldn't affect players as most of them will use him as a support

misty elm
#

Especially at 100

hasty dock
#

I like the fact that Ragnarok is a weird mixture of every other WM, but a random SC is not something anyone would want to have on a hard-earned Premium monster

little berry
#

Well, what other SC would you give him?

hasty dock
#

๐Ÿค”

noble coral
#

Literally i like so much that Ragnarok cannot wait to use him heart_eyes but that random status caster its strange xD i'd like that for example i gain evasion, my remntar gains torture effect, elvira gains damage mirror, All monsters gains Random warmasters status caster :)

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Not for example WE gain only sherezar status caster :/

wanton briar
#

Immune to everything. Nothing can touch him. But he dies after 6 turns.

hasty dock
#

How about a "block positive effects removal"/ "block trait disable"?

little berry
#

Tons of other WM from the past and the future..may be skip Ragnarok if you don't like the random sc. Let the people who like the random sc have him

#

Noone is obliged to get him anyway

noble coral
#

;)

little berry
#

Blocking positive effect removal would be cool

#

Tbh

hasty dock
#

Psilotus thinks like SP

#

๐Ÿ˜‰

little berry
#

No you just want every monster to adhere to the top spenders

noble coral
#

๐Ÿ˜†

hasty dock
#

Lets put in a whole lot of entropic stuff, add "Hardened/Tough" to the mixture, throw it at the playerbase, and let all who like it lap it up, or otherwise ignore it

little berry
#

Literally ignore him. There are tons of monsters to pick from if you're a spender and want to minimize randomness

hasty dock
#

What they, and u, fail to grasp is, the larger playerbase would LOVE to have stuff with a sense of control, instead of throwing about poop and hoping it sticks

noble coral
#

Anticipation trait on Ragnarok is love

#

Imma change my name

little berry
#

@hasty dock how do you know what the larger player base wants?

misty elm
#

You can't ๐Ÿ˜„

noble coral
#

Lel

hasty dock
#

From "random" sampling ๐Ÿ˜‰

little berry
#

Random sampling using 5 ppl here?

noble coral
#

Lol

hasty dock
#

I'd be more than happy to revise my position if u can provide proof as to there are scores who agree with u ๐Ÿ˜‰

mortal bay
#

How about 10 players from every team in the top 50

#

Minimum

noble coral
#

Is my name good?xD

hasty dock
#

Well, Yami said it... That sounds reasonable

little berry
#

I didn't make that claim. You did John. It's not up to me to disprove ur claim

hasty dock
#

And its not upto u to suggest what to get and what to ignore

#

This is a free forum, everyone is entitled to express their views

#

I'm sure the Devs would want to hear the thoughts of players before finally releasing the monster

noble coral
#

Yes

#

Lets discuss about Ragnarok

misty elm
#

Thor unleashed it on Asgard

little berry
#

ML has over 50 million downloads.
Why take the suggestions from top50 teams alone?

noble coral
#

๐Ÿ˜†

little berry
#

I might rewatch Thor Ragnarok

#

Later

noble coral
#

๐Ÿ˜ฎ

hasty dock
#

Because its understood that they understand and play the game better than the rest, I guess ๐Ÿค”

misty elm
#

That 50 million is misleading, I say maybe 50 thousand ...

hasty dock
#

Ragnarok is of little consequence to smaller teams and players, after all

little berry
#

Just bigger spenders. Not necessarily better in understanding or strategy

dreamy rock
#

They changed WMs channel to Ragnarok discussionOMGP LaughP

misty elm
#

Waaaat??? OMGP

little berry
#

The other WMs don't matter, only Ragnarok does

#

๐Ÿ˜ˆ

misty elm
#

Didn't realize it until now ๐Ÿ˜„

noble coral
#

Thats why immtalking lets discuss about Ragarok

hasty dock
#

@little berry pray tell, what's ur level and ur collection of monsters? I'm most curious

noble coral
#

@hasty dock he is lv 150

misty elm
#

Heeey, you changed your name ...

little berry
#

I'm lvl 46 right now, why?

noble coral
#

Lol good morning

misty elm
#

19:31 here ...

noble coral
#

@little berry ......

little berry
#

Yes?

hasty dock
#

Let me amend my question

noble coral
#

But.. butt

misty elm
#

Butt, buttt

hasty dock
#

What is ur MP?

noble coral
#

Lol kihaku

little berry
#

23,000

misty elm
#

You started it ๐Ÿ˜„

noble coral
#

๐Ÿคฃ

dreamy rock
#

Wait what

#

Level 46
And 23k mp?!

noble coral
#

Kihaku your color gone since you have been nerfed ๐Ÿ˜Š

misty elm
#

Wait for what? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

#

I'm still green ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

noble coral
#

๐Ÿ˜‚

little berry
#

Whether you hate Ragnarok or love Ragnarok, can we all agree that his Lore is amazing?

#

Yeah why

misty elm
#

Well, his lore is that he's a jerk

noble coral
#

Am i going to be nerfed? Hope no? Why? Im Warmaster xDddd

hasty dock
#

Now let me tell u, I'm ftp, but I own 3 ranked VIPs, almost all the Nemeses- several beyond rank 2-3, and 4 WMs, one of which is 2*

little berry
#

Oh yeah I mean, now that you mention it he is kinda a jerk ๐Ÿ˜•

#

Hmm

dreamy rock
#

Nebotus needs a huge buff now imao

misty elm
#

Jerkarok ...

noble coral
#

Who is NEBOTUS MOTHERRR

misty elm
#

Okay, that's bad ...

hasty dock
#

I think that I have a tad more taste of what randomness can cause in matches ๐Ÿ˜‰

misty elm
#

Tyrannoking is his mother ... ๐Ÿ˜„

noble coral
#

Nebotus is great attacker

misty elm
#

Said no one ever ...

noble coral
#

Lol

little berry
#

Nebotus can 1 shot tanks what u mean

dreamy rock
#

It is obviously

#

Dang

noble coral
#

Extripe it has 70 damage

dreamy rock
#

Forgot her name

#

The winged bat lady

#

Uc

noble coral
#

Lol

hasty dock
#

And hence, the original statement: Ragnarok could have a cool SC like "block positive removal/ block trait disable" instead of more random stuff from other WMs

little berry
#

You are obviously not ok with randomness.
But I am

misty elm
#

But to one-shot tanks, you'd need to waste good runes on him ...

little berry
#

Mines had 1 level 3 team gold

noble coral
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I think john dont like that randomnes wm sc

hasty dock
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It'll maintain him as unique, and yet not hurt strategy too much

little berry
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It's his raw power that makes him able to 1 shot tanks

dreamy rock
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You don't need to brute force tanks
You can just use deaths door

hasty dock
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@noble coral well, no, I don't ๐Ÿ˜…

noble coral
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Death door ๐Ÿ˜

misty elm
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Sooo, raw power ...

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POWER 2,926
LIFE 25,032
SPEED 3,234

little berry
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He's 130 btw

noble coral
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;p

hasty dock
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Its bad enough going into battle without knowing when a miss/ special can crop up and mess things up

little berry
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I forgot to mention that

misty elm
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Oookay, at 130

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POWER 3,724
LIFE 42,213
SPEED 4,116

little berry
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It's fun to not know

misty elm
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Makugan has 3729 power at 100

little berry
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Lol

noble coral
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@hasty dock i want random Warmasters status caster not only to get 1 sctatus caster of a warmaster but for example i get evasion, elvira gains torture, remntar, damage mirror, it will be bad if we get only 1 status caster for entire team :/

misty elm
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No

little berry
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It's fun knowing your plans may still not work

dreamy rock
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Not really
Cuz his self trait is also extremely good

noble coral
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Yes

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True Vision and that Anticipation are insane!๐Ÿ˜

hasty dock
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@little berry maybe to a lvl 46 player...

noble coral
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Imma change my namw ...

hasty dock
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But not to serious higher end players

misty elm
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He's good at 105 with the turn-transfer skill

dreamy rock
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It's kinda a gamble though
You could get anything from Sherezars CD protection
To Elviras amazing team evasion

noble coral
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Yes kiahku :)

misty elm
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so speedtX speedtX speedtX

noble coral
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Alll Speed

dreamy rock
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It's more of a supportive turn transfer

noble coral
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Lol

dreamy rock
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Not like Samael warrior or strength from beyond

noble coral
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Sherezar is my lovely monster

little berry
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What skills would you guys run on an unranked Ragnarok

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I'm for sure running death door

misty elm
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Depends on the opponent

dreamy rock
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Oh yeah right

hasty dock
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I'll switch around as needed, personally

misty elm
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The Skill Mirror is a must-have

dreamy rock
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No set skillset

noble coral
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I will run all skills on group 2 and that one metal skill on group 3

hasty dock
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That's "random" enough for me I guess ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

little berry
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Some people be like 'small chance of my iPhone turning into a frog, can't be competitive no more'

noble coral
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Same lol

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Archangel BLessing that skills is soo cool. Deals damage of light, removes all negative status effect, heals all allies to 30% hp and evasion to itself i love dat

dreamy rock
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I'd probably mostly use SG3 and maybe swap for Archangel blessing
And Deaths door for last

little berry
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I'm thinking about running, Death Door, Archangel, Blacksmith and Either Demon or Grandmaster.

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I forgot their names

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Of the skills

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Lol

noble coral
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Wait

dreamy rock
noble coral
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Oh lol u so fast

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๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜‚

misty elm
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There's an official document now

noble coral
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99% Official ๐Ÿ˜›

little berry
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101% official ๐Ÿ˜›

noble coral
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1% can be an aggressive

dreamy rock
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Extra turn skill is also nice actually
Would only swap in for extra turners though

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So glad there's free skill change now

little berry
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Yeah lol

misty elm
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Oh yea

little berry
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Hmmm

noble coral
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Who will go for rank 1 ragnarok?

misty elm
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But you were right Krampus, he's mostly a support ๐Ÿ˜„

little berry
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me if i had orbs

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I'm going for a rank 1 Ragnarok.

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lol

misty elm
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No idea

noble coral
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I have only 2696 :/

little berry
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When I get the orbs

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its too hard to get orbs f2p

misty elm
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I have around 3700

noble coral
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I spent all on sherezar xD

dreamy rock
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Maybe
Not sure how well I can do f2p though
Might take a while
He's very very good even at 100 though

little berry
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I have 300 ๐Ÿ˜•

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i have 31

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

gilded coyote
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That's patently false getting orbs for f2p is too hard, you need to prioritize what to spend on

misty elm
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Yeeeah

noble coral
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@wide python xD

gilded coyote
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If you just started and cant clear stuff, warmasters are not what you should be going for

dreamy rock
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I have like 1200
But should get 200 orbs from tbg
And hopefully 300 from pvp

noble coral
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Krampus i wish i can give u ma orbs

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:p

little berry
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:P

dreamy rock
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So theoretically
500 in the next few days or so

little berry
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I'll probably just buy some

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Later

noble coral
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Wow will be very good if we can donate orbs :o

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Lol

misty elm
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42 gems every day is not that easy

little berry
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Some people be like 'small chance of my iPhone turning into a frog, can't be competitive today'

noble coral
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๐Ÿค”

misty elm
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Wat?

little berry
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wot?

noble coral
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I dont get it

little berry
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If my phone turned into a frog I'd be questioning my existence.

noble coral
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Lol

little berry
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xD

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Not being competitive

misty elm
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Oh my ...

little berry
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Talking about randomness

dreamy rock
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Turns into Charmless

noble coral
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๐Ÿ‘€

gilded coyote
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I spend 20 gems a day on orbs, and through dailies (I'm high level and can place in gold and food challenges) and dungeons and stuff I have a net of 90ish gems every 2 weeks to save for cell week

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Check what your gem income is, make a budget and plan how to spend what where

dreamy rock
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I'm not that organized๐Ÿ˜…

gilded coyote
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Other than ML, just a great life skill to make adulting easier

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Lol

noble coral
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Yes

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@little berry u are lv 42?

little berry
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46

noble coral
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๐Ÿ˜ž

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Why so low?

little berry
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๐Ÿค” id say 46 is, quite high

noble coral
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๐Ÿ˜

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Lol no

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From lv 70 is perfect

little berry
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No

misty elm
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46 is middle-low

noble coral
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Yes

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๐Ÿ˜‚

misty elm
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You know 150 is the max, right?

noble coral
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Huh

little berry
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I'm 2nd strongest in team. So it's highh

crystal vigil
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you could be level 17 and you'll be the strongest in a team full of level 16s

noble coral
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Nice

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Yeah