#monster-discussion
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Im Reading since yesterday the list to my team and we didnโt even reach Ragnarok
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@fresh blaze Definitely go for Ragnarok it worth ๐
Hadi ๐คจbuy Orbs ๐
Lel
Muhahaha ๐
I hope he comes near the end of the month I wanna buy orbs
I will burn my self if it comes next saturday lol
27.01
Waat
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Lol
I still need 2k he better wait >:(
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The more I look at Ragnarok, the more I feel like he should've had abomination somewhere, maybe instead of hardend? Idk.
He just screams "ABOMINATION"
:/
Yes
Remntar + Ragnarok uuuwo
I can get him i love himm๐๐
He steal all warmastee skill and trait
I guess there will be more Warmasters
Amin ๐ค
One of them is bound to be a game breaker
XD
I love warmasters... i love to have all warmaster of every type design like ragnarok maybe other could be a Valkyria or Archangel or idk xDdd
Maybe there will be more Warmasters than you imagine
Lol
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Warmaster Katarina ๐
Im like where is warmaster hounds ๐คจ๐คจ๐คจ since there is ragnarok ๐คจ๐คจ๐คจ
Not glorious enough ๐ญ
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Lol
Yeh, although more... officially leaked lol
mind linking me?
Arrghh I spent my orbs on necro so I have no orbs for ragnarok,๐ญ๐ญ
Good luck with raknarok
I hope you to
so Ragnarok is a real thing?
weird days we living
there go my gems
at least I wont be using them in the race, so thats a win-win
too much warmasters SP should decrease the amount of gems of orbs or increase amounts of orbs...it will be a blessing
this is probably the last warmaster, then come the pets
ty
that is unreadable lol
just now
ragnarok is amazing WM excited to see him live
he doesnt seem to have any useful aoe skill
-75% life 1cd on it, that..that is too op
which rank was that
i dont think so bcoz it shows black n white n those r the official skills
what warmaster do i get first
im broke i have 500
same
Would you think you would need the other warmasters to get ragnork like you no requirements and stuff
obvio
You prob need 3 wm minimum to get him
That would make a lot of sense
or maybe he is not for heroic orbs
a man can dream
can someone send me the moves
Hopefully he is free to play accessible
Like the more zoomed and clear one
He is for orbs
And i believe you don't need to pay more or have WM to get him. But that part I'm less certain on
same orbs like other warmasters...requirements for dungeons will be each floor different element monsters...no warmasters required to do the dungeons
Thanks Jasmin, thought so
so ranking is not an issue ?
you don't need rank monsters
He is a supportish attacker
pretty good at 100
130 questionable
his trait is da best tho
I am assuming he is the antagonist for the warmasters
Titan queen confirm?
so many questions
my god
of course you will need ranked monsters for dungeons like for all previous warmaster dungeons
Let's not get overhyped, he'll be much more p2w than other WM imo. They're doing good marketing like Soul Hugger had and we know that didn't end up f2p at all.
why should he be more ptw then other wm?
tougher restrictions, just my guess
no...i told restrictions about 5 times now
I would say to wait it out
For real? Do you know for sure?
thats the info i have from SP...if they dont change last minute
Jasmin's info has been very trustworthy for this yes
well ok then, I trust you ๐
Should my attacks be missing if sherezar is on my team?
Only 50% ones should have a chance of missing. Unless you're total blinded. Or maybe blinded and against Bulwark
Nah I ainโt blinded or anything but It just wonโt land
And itโs not even 50% accuracy ones
Hmm who's using what move against who?
You're not trait disabled or something really obvious? ๐
He is like a ghost with a stick
Some people say that he has no element
without element... without weaknesses to elements
Some say that he has Legendary+Legendary element double x)
Relics are decent ๐
Nebotu's father lol
CDA doesn't seem to be boosted by true vision, so i'd assume that stamina drain isn't either, so if it was the frostbite using the stamina drain(which for some reason doesn't seem to have a 100% chance of landing) that could be the cause
don't compare nebotus to raganork
That's his lore though...
I am exited for raganork but at the same time a little buff on r4 skills won't
WHAT
I don'tt see the lore
It was what one of the staff said last night. He's Nebotus' father
hows he related to the story tho
is he antagonist for the wm's
lmao the father is x1000 better than the son
He stole some of their power, and used it for himself. Including raising the Titans to fight against the WM's
Nebotus doesn't want people to know that Ragnarok is his father. Hence all his life he has kept low and hasn't shown his true powers.
He just copied Darkzgul cause dark was his childhood friend
Yes
I believe he's a self proclaimed Warmaster. Decided himself that he was worthy of the title.
oof can't believe sherry died for this guy
ye not everyone knows raganork is coming lol
He is decent
his trait is really good tho
skills is a 60% good compared to all wm's
But Anticipation is for all?
and his role is probs attacking support
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Nah its his own trait
;)
Yeah he is amazing in all ranks
I wanted every warmaster to be like that xD
His speed 3552 i think is nice
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wait
Thalassa and ingenica still can counter
is everyone who isn't a denier trash now?
XD
no
He doesn't have any true role, support is his best I guess
yeah, he's a support
I just said the speed is not much of significance
oh
Support+buffer
Well, support with a high speed can go before your attacker and give damage boosts/remove negative etc.
usually the only thing that matters with support monster's speed is that their speed is faster than your attacker's
excluding the revive skills
Ragnarok is pretty nice still more cool without Aoe attacks ;)
I have mixed emotions about him
He has 3 extra turn skills
his design trait re at peak
If he had AOEs that would be a touch broken, on that aspect hes balanced well
@gilded coyote seems like SP decided to take your titan god thing
Seems more in line with Notungr with the special/uses all elements
I am not talking about TT
extra turn for himself
but tt can be used on himself
so ehh
My biggest gripe is his RNG trait
Very cautious about that, it's a worrisome precedent, if it was something smaller it could be okay, but any WM status caster is getting to that line
His design seems to be a departing from the general art style here and there also as I've seen pointed out
Yea I agree, although I will without trying to toot my own horn or anything lol, I do appreciate you bringing him up though :)
He's going to be so broken
How so?
"Random" status caster
Meaning you pretty much can't prepare for that part of the battle
The fight can be decided based on what caster you get
Well, that's true, but his books have monsters who can remove positive, so you can at least partially prepare
That part doesn't matter
Run him in a 6ts denier comp
How do you beat that ?
You run a 3ts set up with Ingenica and a denier
Then you get outspeed
If you try to outspeed the comp
They could get evasion
Who is good Ragnarok or Necromancer? :P
Or skill mirror
Random SC, and enough good moves that its going to be hard to predict is moveset. It's gonna be a real gamble!
Depends what denier, you can always bring monsters who are immune to the denier's form of denying
Ragnarok?
The only way to ensure you win is a 6 TS Sherezar 130 with 3 X spd
Sherezar could try using great dispel into deny but he has anticipation
Anticipation
Anticipation + Shock extra turn move
Umm๐
Or bring monsters who are immune to the denier's form of denying?
And if the denier has multiple ?
You have zero idea to know what denies they are running
You can only plan for so much
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Well on Ragnarok
Ruby can apply random deny, so can Sherezar. Thalassa can disable trait
You know who you're fighting, so you can predict, and there are ways to 'force' the AI to start with a certain skill
Leave the battle
And that's only 1 combination
Xd
Well, elvira+anticipation can deny sherezar, faraday starts with the aoe so only 'threat' is ragnarok
I just don't want a cookie cutter precedent where everyone needs to have one monster to get ahead
Stifles creativity
A lot of monsters are better, he's good, but not close to being the best
Thallassa will def have a hard time beating him if he is paired with the right monsters
Ragnaroks skills out?
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not warmaster
Also, that team you mentioned can't deal a lot of damage Yami, so samael with a life can beat it too
but just a quick q
I deleted the ss
Curse
10%
Also, healing amulet, tenacity, pain is only 2 CD
And you can bring babari for example, DOT protection
And then do what?
Ragnarok + Necromancer + Remntar
Just said elvira+anticipation, not faraday, nor did I mention sammy in the same combo, but sammy, elvira and anticipation works too, thanks for the option
Sherezar won't be removing the evasion because of anticipation, so you can safely play
You don't run great dispel
The extra turn revive won't happen because of anticipation
You run the block positive aoe
Anticipation doesnt block anything
The ai will ignore anticipation
To revive
Necro ignores it
Why wouldn't Ragnarok too
He won't perform any extra turn skills with anticipation
And even if it does, that can benefit you
Ragnarok +elvira+ Faraday or Ragnarok Thalassa and Sherezar
Hhhh lol im getting tired xD
No team is unbeatable, there are ways to get around everything 
Where did you found his skills?
Scroll up
Thanks
One of my fav designs 
I found him ugliest ๐คญ
I need to find his movements like: walking, attacking, special, defeating
that is findable ๐
Vali 
He might be my favourite WM design wise 
In taringa isnt? :/
@fresh blaze mi hermana xD where can i see his walking, attacking?
Wait till release or check the evil page
I think Remntar/Elvira is my favourite design
Remntar โค
Definitely need Remntar in battle
Remntar And Ragnarok ๐
Thallasa go 1st remove trait & freeze faraday then mega freeze to all enemy ragnarok remove life and apply torture to enemy then sharezar use grandmaster scroll
Lol
Remntar design 
Ragnarok looks more like an ancestor of Krugbo than Nebotus
His head is literally like the Juvenile stage of Krugbo... But then I like creepy one-eyed freaks ๐ฌ
Could be... ๐
Anyone know how will be Dungeon of Ragnarok please tell me
what element is ragnarok
Its like a ghost no element:Legendary+Legendary could be xD
Think it's warmaster restrictions
rag is special only
Rag has no element no weakness
Or maybe floor one dark
Floor 2 magic floor 3 earth etc
So be sure you have all ranked monsters till group 1,2
how about we just wait and see
Nu lol
Like @pine plover said: same orbs like other warmasters...requirements for dungeons will be each floor different element monsters...no warmasters required to do the dungeons
:)
new warmaster coming
Seems cool
The pet is called Bob
His pet is his son, Nebotus ๐
Technically sons take their physical characteristics from their grandpa's /grandma's
(don't ask me why it's complicated)
i will ask you why its complicated
yep
@noble coral taringa images arent allowed here. remove
XD
It say copied to clipboard
Make your dreams come true
thank you ๐
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I very much doubt that. Itโs lore, not a promise ๐
@little berry lets hope man
i just wonder about how to get that ๐
ragnarok seems to be the main enemy acc to the lore
We can obtain Ragnarock like the other WM or it's going to be Something special and same orbs cost?
To be fair, Ragnarok can fill a fair amount of holes in the lore. Because he's a master of all elements, he could gradually accumulate different powers over time similarly to All For One in BNHA. He could be the one who granted Haku and Jabaline power to fuse into Jakugan, he could have granted Dr Viktor the powers to extract and craft etc...
Or he coulda just swanned up one day, billy big balls and thought letโs have some fun
x)
"billy big balls" alright this one got me ๐
Cant wait to get him ๐
I have my moments
sherezartars still gonna b like
โSherazar is betterโ
... He kinda is tho ๐ ๐
He is but I get what you mean
Does anyone know that the Great Dispel isn't removing all effect from all monsters just in my team and gains extra turn ..
They still stunned,freezed but they didnt get removed
thats one for the bugs channel
oof What if raganork is the eye of monster legends
I thought of that, but then looked at the picture and saw a difference in the eyes ๐ค
Raknarok the fuse of ghouldmon and alphamon XD
Does shock block anticipation?
No
Who can tested?
Pls
I dont know
XD
And i dont have monsters with anticipation and shock
Hmm
Ragnarok best WM at 105
Yes but always elvira the best
Shezzaโs wench has abandoned his post
XD
Sherezar still best
Yeah
But Ragnarok best at 105
Elvira qlone her evasion
What wm has a really good r3 skill ?
XD
Elvira
Conclusion all warmasters the best XD
Zahra? ๐
Trash Barbael
Thalassa
Runes for Ragnarok?
Speed ftw
Because he's a great attacker
2nd highest power stat in the game
With some decently powerful moves
Might run it

But his attacks are 40&50
3rd* Makugan takes 2nd these days
But he does have 3696 power yeh, a 60 power skill, and a 40 + extra turn
Just one skill
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3696 power with a 50 damage skill is like the same as 3500 power and a 70 damage skill
Ehhhh not quite Yami ๐
No way
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3500 power + 70 = 3696 + 65
Close enough
The 3500+70 will do way more DMG than 3696+50
We are ?
Ye for sure
There's team skill mirror, life regents, self evasion, extra turn, CDA, remove 75% life, trait disable+tb
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Got a pick 4
Life regents has always been handy for me
Self evasion looks like a must have coz it heals allies, so does aoe skill mirror
At R0 I would probably default to skill mirror, self evasion, extra turn, total blind or cda. Swap in 75% life for tanks/zahra, swap deny if needs be.
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I think -75% life will be a KO most of the time
U do shock + extra turn, then remove 75% life
Isn't that a ko
Yeh but then i'm running him as an attacker. If he's running support then I'm less fussed about him getting a KO, as my attacker can probably do that job too ๐
Boy what a monster
i think isnt a ko becuase if he has for examle 1% health and u remove tat -75% life u incerase his life
like equalizer
or gretchen skill
I'm pretty sure the skill says REMOVES 75% of total life
your making it complicated tho
you guys dont belive me
if u have gretchen use her -45%of total life to anyone for example IGursus have only 1/45000 hP amd u use -45%of total life to remove than you cant kill him it will incerase life to 24,750 from 1 Hp
like 50/50
thats equalizer
gretchen
brudda if your gonna say something please make it to the point
what are you trying to say
scroll up
At least try to make sense
hope he come soon anyway i dont like that skill
I don't want him to come soon
that you guys are talking about
sp should take its sweet time coming up with a different way of gettinh him
he'll come in 9 day xd
and also buffing
27/01
Just gonna point out, the current dungeon cycle doesn't match his release date
^
but he is less of a concern to me
the room is the event I am looking forward to
not the room but I call it like that
its that exploring the 4 door thing
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Im happy now xD
Its like dead vision of Nox, it extract -75% of total life to enemy
thats a Ko @little berry ๐
:p
i dont know all english lol
deals some damage of the skill applies shock -10% life or 15% idk xd gains extra turn and removes that -75% life omg thats Amzaazing
79 stm cost ๐ฆ
well thats op skill so it should be
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yes
Did alpha just say ragnarok best warmaster at 105
how's draining 75% hp op
Thalassa, necromancer, Elvira, remtar are all better at 105 maybe a few others
Itโs not
at 100 he is one of the best
Agree with Deadbush ๐
@cold sequoia plz sherezar fan boys are enough
WE don't need ragnarok ones
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@cinder geyser kid its facts
He has a team skill mirror at 100
and 75% total life remover
He's pretty solid at 100 compared to other wm's
so please
don't point me as a fan boy when I am clearly just stating facts
@cinder geyser what your trying to mean bout that?
elvira heccs them all
I didn't say your a fan boy but keep saying best over and over is annoying we get it that he's good and that's going to rise some fan boys
He is good thats fact
But where is the point in saying that over and over
WE get it
all wm are good. you need to know to use them
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I am pretty sure many people agree on my statement
He does job pretty well as a attacking supporter
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That's pretty obvious we are smarter to know that ourselves
Boi I think you just want to argue
I only said that cause we were on the topic of whch WM's were doing good at each rank
If you wanna go on about being smart and you already knew it
good for you
peace out
Ragnarok is in #announcements so is essentially pinned ๐
Should make it easier to find the moves for you all!
Just that it exists, and is in 7.7. Nothing new though ๐
What lore? I see no lore in the game, the monsters are just puppets in your habitats ...
lore about raganork
Yeeeeaahhhh .....
thalasa or ragnarok ?worth to do 1st?
Currently? Save you orbs ๐
Ragnarok is definitely another that is perfectly viable at lvl 100
SP back at it again with making more game-breaking monsters. I'm really starting to think that SP doesn't believe in nerfs. Ragnarok and Thallasa are way too OP and are a pain to counter. The worst part is that normal monsters can be as strong as WMs sometimes. It's gonna be tough for me to come back to the game.
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Ragnarok isn't op
Yes
His SC is inherently broken but he's not OP
He just stole some amazing skills from All warmasters and few skills from itself he completes it with the best
What Yami said
He himself is actually balanced with only single target skills
RNG trait though? Not great
He will be OP! OverPriced ๐
He's in a lot of books
Underworld, undead, evil, families, spirits
Exclusive
Armor, amulet
I was saving up for sherezar
I need more orbs
But life is struggle so i have to go more up
I am fine ๐
This warmaster won't get any weakness but if Zahra puts Legendary weakness it will hurt him x)
Looks like you have enough to get Ragnarok
Yes bro
Great
I have around 3200
I like dat Archangel's Blessing skill
Will there be blessing for his dungeon?
Yeah
Nice
Not good relics but they can work good
Well at least he will stay alive with some shield
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Lol i cant wait to try his magic movement skills
Like fire attack will make fire there and so on lol
What skills will u choose
All group 2 and that metal skill in group 3
I cant go for death door
Its so much stamina cost
Ill just focus on taking my Necromancer and Zahra to 130 ๐
Why is every going on about the stamina cost
Energizing amulet is a thing
0 issues with stamina
Hm ๐ค
The gold one?
Bronze
I'm almost sure SP wants us to discuss him what are thoughts are about Ragnarok
so if someone thinks he is to op maybe share why lets look what monsters can take him out
Not knowing his sc, I won't say a word about being op. He's still like other warmasters but of different element attacks
Looks like he will be getting immune to torture sc๐
also think on combinations with other monsters will he bring change
I think he's a great thought process precedent in monster designing for SP, probably the best support around with his skill set, single only moves to balance all the stuff they can do, he is in no way OP. My only issue is with his Random SC trait, I fear what bringing this variable into battles means for future things, it opens doors that I don't care to have opened. As to counter I would just run the typical stuff people would to combat Elvira/Remntar. Ingenica still shuts him down with every status caster but Elvira's, which at that point depends on the rest of your team and your runes
Imo dont change anything. He's perfect as is..
Get rid of random SC, give him something unique to himself, that's what my opinion boils down to
Agreed
Everything about him seems pretty spot on
But having a random aspect being his SC
Still not a fan
You're fighting a dice more than another player for the most part
Hardly unique
Adding more randomness to any sort of competitive game is never a positive change
Ruby's random control skill was a positive change.
how?
Everything got broke after nemesises came out๐
You couldn't be sure of countering her with immunity to stun for example. Things like that lead to better competitive gameplay eventually
Randomness isn't healthy for competitive gameplay
If me winning is down to a % then it's stupid
No matter how good I am, it will always be a % that decides if I win or not
So some braindead player can get a lucky % and beat me, hilarious
That's the same reason special skills are pointless
If you need a special to win a battle you don't deserve to win at all
This whole game is based on randomness. Always was. The Accuracies? The traits?
It never destroyed any competitive player so far
@wide python he dont need to be chaged he is perfect honey โค๐
And that's where you're completely wrong
Literally the opposite to everything you just said
Indeed
Looks like u never had to put up much with losing to nasty specials at clutch moments and consecutive misses on monsters ultimately leading to defeat @little berry
So now shall we change all the accuracies to 100%?
XD
Nobody is saying that
Smaller teams don't have to worry about defeats as much
Thats random warmaster status caster is that good?๐
But u're wrong about randomness not screwing competitive players
Depends on what you mean by 'screwing'
And also by what u understand by "competitive"
I guess it'd be asking too much of a player who insists that Sherezar is a female...
..
Sometimes you get unlucky, some days are luckier.
It's the way the game has always been and you still got addicted to it
No offence, but I'm really yet to see a lucky day ๐
Randomness is part of what hooked you in
Absolutely not !!!
Definitely not
Losing to accuracy or because Ruby tried to double possess an immune to possession target is not competitive or a good addition.
Whether you realize it or not
Its the sense of strategy and what careful planning can achieve that got me hooked
And I'm sure its the same for many others
I'll gladly lose a battle that I was out smarted in, but to lose because something I have no control over didn't go in my favor, is silly
The game is hardly a magnet for strategists.
If you need no luck, but pure strategy, play chess
If that's ur stance, maybe u'd be better off playing dice games ๐
We should discuss abot Ragnarok ๐
Oof
No, your reasoning is wrong I'm sorry. I was just reading the posts and had no intend to reply.. but....
I'm fine with the randomness in this game
So you like the chests?
That's ur personal outlook, keep it if u wish, but don't assume the same for others
I like the ones I can afford but don't always prefer it
So you like your money spent on some potentially worthless item/monster?
almost no chest has worthless stuff
potentially
Lol
I hardly have any need to buy a chest with loll 100 L
ummm
Tell that to people who bought the Nemesis chest and got cells of breedable legendaries lol
almost all chest have something useless
well, the ones that don't have worthless stuff are the keys ones
i don't think there's any other chest without anything worthless
And they cost money, not gems ...
maybe
yeah, they are usually good
lets keep it to Ragnarok ๐
but they still have worthless stuff like osur
Ragnarok beats Osur, so on-topic again ๐
I changed the name
Without randomness the game is like an auction 'pay this much and take your reward'
with it it's 'pay this much and have a x% chance of taking your reward'
maybe, but the game relies too much on randomness
Lately, that is...
There's a reason traits like hardened exist
Ragnarok having random cast shouldn't affect players as most of them will use him as a support
Especially at 100
I like the fact that Ragnarok is a weird mixture of every other WM, but a random SC is not something anyone would want to have on a hard-earned Premium monster
Well, what other SC would you give him?
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Literally i like so much that Ragnarok cannot wait to use him heart_eyes but that random status caster its strange xD i'd like that for example i gain evasion, my remntar gains torture effect, elvira gains damage mirror, All monsters gains Random warmasters status caster :)
Not for example WE gain only sherezar status caster :/
Immune to everything. Nothing can touch him. But he dies after 6 turns.
How about a "block positive effects removal"/ "block trait disable"?
Tons of other WM from the past and the future..may be skip Ragnarok if you don't like the random sc. Let the people who like the random sc have him
Noone is obliged to get him anyway
;)
No you just want every monster to adhere to the top spenders
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Lets put in a whole lot of entropic stuff, add "Hardened/Tough" to the mixture, throw it at the playerbase, and let all who like it lap it up, or otherwise ignore it
Literally ignore him. There are tons of monsters to pick from if you're a spender and want to minimize randomness
What they, and u, fail to grasp is, the larger playerbase would LOVE to have stuff with a sense of control, instead of throwing about poop and hoping it sticks
@hasty dock how do you know what the larger player base wants?
You can't ๐
Lel
From "random" sampling ๐
Random sampling using 5 ppl here?
Lol
I'd be more than happy to revise my position if u can provide proof as to there are scores who agree with u ๐
Is my name good?xD
Well, Yami said it... That sounds reasonable
I didn't make that claim. You did John. It's not up to me to disprove ur claim
And its not upto u to suggest what to get and what to ignore
This is a free forum, everyone is entitled to express their views
I'm sure the Devs would want to hear the thoughts of players before finally releasing the monster
Thor unleashed it on Asgard
ML has over 50 million downloads.
Why take the suggestions from top50 teams alone?
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Because its understood that they understand and play the game better than the rest, I guess ๐ค
That 50 million is misleading, I say maybe 50 thousand ...
Ragnarok is of little consequence to smaller teams and players, after all
Just bigger spenders. Not necessarily better in understanding or strategy
They changed WMs channel to Ragnarok discussion

Waaaat??? 
Didn't realize it until now ๐
Thats why immtalking lets discuss about Ragarok
@little berry pray tell, what's ur level and ur collection of monsters? I'm most curious
@hasty dock he is lv 150
Heeey, you changed your name ...
I'm lvl 46 right now, why?
Lol good morning
19:31 here ...
@little berry ......
Yes?
Let me amend my question
But.. butt
Butt, buttt
What is ur MP?
Lol kihaku
23,000
You started it ๐
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Kihaku your color gone since you have been nerfed ๐
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Whether you hate Ragnarok or love Ragnarok, can we all agree that his Lore is amazing?
Yeah why
Well, his lore is that he's a jerk
Am i going to be nerfed? Hope no? Why? Im Warmaster xDddd
Now let me tell u, I'm ftp, but I own 3 ranked VIPs, almost all the Nemeses- several beyond rank 2-3, and 4 WMs, one of which is 2*
Nebotus needs a huge buff now imao
Jerkarok ...
Who is NEBOTUS MOTHERRR
Okay, that's bad ...
I think that I have a tad more taste of what randomness can cause in matches ๐
Tyrannoking is his mother ... ๐
Nebotus is great attacker
Said no one ever ...
Lol
Nebotus can 1 shot tanks what u mean
Extripe it has 70 damage
Lol
And hence, the original statement: Ragnarok could have a cool SC like "block positive removal/ block trait disable" instead of more random stuff from other WMs
You are obviously not ok with randomness.
But I am
But to one-shot tanks, you'd need to waste good runes on him ...
Mines had 1 level 3 team gold
I think john dont like that randomnes wm sc
It'll maintain him as unique, and yet not hurt strategy too much
It's his raw power that makes him able to 1 shot tanks
You don't need to brute force tanks
You can just use deaths door
@noble coral well, no, I don't ๐
Death door ๐
He's 130 btw
;p
Its bad enough going into battle without knowing when a miss/ special can crop up and mess things up
I forgot to mention that
It's fun to not know
Makugan has 3729 power at 100
Lol
@hasty dock i want random Warmasters status caster not only to get 1 sctatus caster of a warmaster but for example i get evasion, elvira gains torture, remntar, damage mirror, it will be bad if we get only 1 status caster for entire team :/
No
It's fun knowing your plans may still not work
Not really
Cuz his self trait is also extremely good
@little berry maybe to a lvl 46 player...
Imma change my namw ...
But not to serious higher end players
He's good at 105 with the turn-transfer skill
It's kinda a gamble though
You could get anything from Sherezars CD protection
To Elviras amazing team evasion
Yes kiahku :)
so

Alll Speed
It's more of a supportive turn transfer
Lol
Not like Samael warrior or strength from beyond
Sherezar is my lovely monster
What skills would you guys run on an unranked Ragnarok
I'm for sure running death door
Depends on the opponent
Oh yeah right
I'll switch around as needed, personally
The Skill Mirror is a must-have
No set skillset
I will run all skills on group 2 and that one metal skill on group 3
That's "random" enough for me I guess ๐ฌ
Some people be like 'small chance of my iPhone turning into a frog, can't be competitive no more'
Same lol
Archangel BLessing that skills is soo cool. Deals damage of light, removes all negative status effect, heals all allies to 30% hp and evasion to itself i love dat
I'd probably mostly use SG3 and maybe swap for Archangel blessing
And Deaths door for last
I'm thinking about running, Death Door, Archangel, Blacksmith and Either Demon or Grandmaster.
I forgot their names
Of the skills
Lol
Wait
There's an official document now
99% Official ๐
101% official ๐
1% can be an aggressive
Extra turn skill is also nice actually
Would only swap in for extra turners though
So glad there's free skill change now
Yeah lol
Oh yea
Hmmm
Who will go for rank 1 ragnarok?
But you were right Krampus, he's mostly a support ๐
No idea
I have only 2696 :/
I have around 3700
I spent all on sherezar xD
Maybe
Not sure how well I can do f2p though
Might take a while
He's very very good even at 100 though
That's patently false getting orbs for f2p is too hard, you need to prioritize what to spend on
Yeeeah
@wide python xD
If you just started and cant clear stuff, warmasters are not what you should be going for
I have like 1200
But should get 200 orbs from tbg
And hopefully 300 from pvp
:P
So theoretically
500 in the next few days or so
42 gems every day is not that easy
Some people be like 'small chance of my iPhone turning into a frog, can't be competitive today'
๐ค
Wat?
wot?
I dont get it
If my phone turned into a frog I'd be questioning my existence.
Lol
Oh my ...
Talking about randomness
Turns into Charmless
๐
I spend 20 gems a day on orbs, and through dailies (I'm high level and can place in gold and food challenges) and dungeons and stuff I have a net of 90ish gems every 2 weeks to save for cell week
Check what your gem income is, make a budget and plan how to spend what where
I'm not that organized๐
46
๐ค id say 46 is, quite high
No
46 is middle-low
You know 150 is the max, right?
Huh
I'm 2nd strongest in team. So it's highh
you could be level 17 and you'll be the strongest in a team full of level 16s




