monster-discussion

[little berry]

its a boy

its been said at least 4 times

Looks like a girl, walks like a girl, probably a girl

eh lol

you cant just say

[noble inlet]

Pazza stop

[little berry]

if someone looks like a girl

[noble inlet]

:GWqlabsKek:

[little berry]

that there a girl

theres fact that say

hes a boy

so just stop please

[noble inlet]

Sherezar a dude

[ornate oak]

Fake Thanos.

[noble inlet]

If thats whats going on

[ornate oak]

[noble inlet]

Yall almost as bad as DM haters

[little berry]

dm haters have a special place when they die

smh

[noble inlet]

Yall callin DM a dude

[little berry]

😅

I wish sherezar was in female book. It would be great

[noble inlet]

I wish dm was in females book

Be better

[little berry]

Both

only one of them is a female tho xd

[noble inlet]

DM

[misty elm]

Neither are female, if you know what I mean ...

[noble coral]

@ionic tinsel females can have muscles but not as big as sherezar

So

[echo sundial]

Urm

Are you ok?

[winter surge]

No wonder psilotus can give a new type of gender to wm pets

😂

[crystal vigil]

also

females don't have "himself", "him", "he" and "him" in their description

[patent sphinx]

Maybe they’re just too modern and special so they identify themselves as gender fluid:P

[little berry]

I hope the pets come out soon.
Necromancers pet especially

The pets will look lame

Necro pet is just a crow

I guess they will transform in adult stage?

Hopefully

The pets in the current animations do look lame tbh

[misty elm]

The WM pets will be PC 😄

[ornate oak]

They look fine to me, tbh.

[frail pawn]

so... anyone knows when the next orb discount qould happen? or is it random?

[misty elm]

Looks random to me

[polar valve]

quick thank you to mothman for helping me get through the dungeon

[little berry]

Question for Devs to confirm or deconfirm the obnoxious amount of controversy. Are the Warmaster’s pets purely cosmetic or do they serve a purpose? I personally don’t think they’ll grant any stat boosts or skills

[brittle hemlock]

devs are gone till january and i doubt they;ll be allowed to mention anything like that.

[little berry]

It’s a shame they can’t rid me of my curiosity and silence people for a while

But given they only develop the game I can understand why they can’t relay information like that

[brittle hemlock]

if they give an inch, the community would want a mile.
Plus NDA - they cannot leak out future information as a legal thing, leaking internal processes notonly spoils the surprise and tension for us as players but could also get a staff member fied.

[lapis current]

oh my days the last node for sherezar is so hard

zz

[lone shale]

I want to ask you guys a question, if there is a monster having a skill 50 % possession(like kihaku) , if I use the Magic WM with him, the skill will land on the enemy with 100%

[faint beacon]

Yes
I think

[native prairie]

Skinny things 💅🏼😌💅🏼

[little berry]

Congrats

For getting the best warmaster on the planet

[native prairie]

No

In my opinion, Thalassa and Elvira are the best

They're queens 💅🏼😌💅🏼

[little berry]

Zahra is a queen

[native prairie]

No

[little berry]

Yes

[lusty shell]

more like no by the majority

[little berry]

The warmasters were running out of time to hire a nature warmaster so they took a random monster named zahra along to fight the Titans

[tame beacon]

Nice! A free X rune for you 😄

[brittle hemlock]

Morning sonno :GWmythsBlobWaveCool:

[tame beacon]

Morning 😃

Just on my way to rank DM to finish floor 2 myself!

[brittle hemlock]

Awesome, good luck! I don't have the orbs for it lmao

[tame beacon]

Ouch, ah well can always save for another!

This one leaves me pretty close to zero lol

[faint beacon]

:GWcfcThonk:

🤔

[tame beacon]

Might have to be done zizoo!

The cells isn’t bad as youll have got a lot from the dungeon 😃

I’m in the same spot, got as far as I could with Nereida, Scarr and Gelotron. Now having to rank DM to finish the floor

[kind crane]

I’m running it in this war, it’s quite nifty. Nice my attacks actually hitting for once

[tame beacon]

Haha must be nice not to have to worry! Or have your whole strategy thrown away by a miss 😄

[kind crane]

I’m running it ts atm, 110+ id deffo run as denier

I’m thinking 1 speed 2 ts, but ceebs changing it

[echo sundial]

If I get a warmaster it should have all runes unlocked

Not one locked not two lock. All unlocked

[misty elm]

Same thing with Elvira, one slot locked

[little berry]

at least are 2 unlocked instead of 1 xdd

[little berry]

imagine using runes on elvira

unless u rank her

[pine cosmos]

3 team strength....

[little berry]

Mine has 3 unlocked. But thats coz I'm her Bodyguard

[gilded coyote]

my boy sherry hatching, bring on that precision please

[lapis current]

what does cooldown protection mean

[narrow prairie]

sherezar lvl 100 or thalassa 105, 110?

[faint beacon]

🤔

[echo sundial]

Probs thal

[gilded coyote]

Do we have someone that has hatched Sherry and knows group 3 and 4 skills? (group 4 in order of learning)

[mortal bay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/447118643155959808/522960027028553741/image1.png

Should be this

[gilded coyote]

Thank you, just seen and heard a lot of "this" then it's "that" lol

[little berry]

@narrow prairie Thalassa

[ornate oak]

Thalassa at 105 is pretty good. Her aoe freeze immunity is a great trait to accompany her and your allies due to being in some water restrictions. Possession doesn’t work her much either. If she gets possessed and attempts to aoe freeze (or mega) your own team, your good, especially since she doesn’t deal much damage. In addition, she has two extra turn skills at 105 so it’s likely she’ll get rid of possession that way, too.

She’s an amazing monster all around, tbh. Best wm, imo.

[little berry]

Nah nah nah magic wm gives precsion so irs the best

[ionic tinsel]

Non

Thalassa is beast

[little berry]

Wrong, Zahra is clearly the best obviously. Double life means your not dying as fast.

Zahra Hayman and Sir slumberly is best team

[cold sequoia]

nah nah

Firesaur is the best wm

[polar valve]

firesaur+ firelion + firekong = boom

[little berry]

Magic is not the best. 😂

Nature is obviously.

[tame beacon]

Warmaster number 2 😃

[little berry]

Cool

Wait

👍

Wrong thinge lol

[polar valve]

the best warmaster is the magic warmaster

the dude sacrificed himself in a battle against the titans

[wide python]

🍀

[polar valve]

good luck zizoooo

[ionic tinsel]

Doesn’t that make him the worst if he was the only one to die?

Necro technically is the best because he revived the third best

[misty elm]

^🤔

☺

[polar valve]

the worst? How is doing such a major sacrifice a bad thing?

only heroes do that

the best of the best

necro is the worst because he brought someone back but failed to bring him as he was

[misty elm]

As he was?

[polar valve]

just a sec

"However, he’s changed... It's like death hasn't left his body! "

[misty elm]

So Necro made him his own?

[polar valve]

not exactly

but he has changed

probably onto some crazy murderous stuff

[misty elm]

I mean Necro is like death itself.

His name is Necromancer

[polar valve]

yeah I am aware of what that could mean

not of what it means

[misty elm]

Maybe Necro planted something inside Shazzy's mind

[polar valve]

maybe he plans to overthrow Thalassa using Sherezar

we need a channel for conspiracies regarding warmasters

[little berry]

Don't think so. I mean, they're all friends...

"Good guys"

[polar valve]

except for Sherezar

the good on him has been tainted by death

[little berry]

It's been said there is a certain emptiness in his eyes, not that darkness took him over...

[polar valve]

we do need a titan invasion now that all the warmasters are here...

no one said darkness took him over

its just that he has changed

[little berry]

Death/darkness. Whatevs.

[polar valve]

now known to what means

thats nowhere near the same though

[little berry]

He's basicly an intelligent zombie.

Depends how you look at it.

[polar valve]

that makes sense

[little berry]

He's still himself. I'd guess it simply purged him of emotions. It's Sherezar, but you can feel the void where his cheerful spirit would normally be. Something in those lines.

[ionic tinsel]

Necro has that skill that revives enemy but possesses them

[echo sundial]

How many orbs can I buy from 1700 gems

Nvm did the maths myself 😂 it’s 4452

[pine cosmos]

So is that the best value?

[misty elm]

The best value is buying 110 orbs for 42 gems every happy hour

[pine cosmos]

Ya, I do that. But wasn't 1700 gems on sale for €54.99? So that'd be much better than buying the 2500 orbs for €54.99

[misty elm]

Sure

There's a lvl-up offer with 1700 gems for 40 dollars. I'll buy that once I'll get there

[pine cosmos]

I'm 94 so I got 800 for €20 coming then 5100 for €109 but tbh spending that much on a phone game is a bit insane no matter what you're buying

[misty elm]

Lvl 111: lvl 7 strength rune, 1 million food and a Miravle battle item ... for 50 dollars ... NO NO NO

I'm 110 right now. Had to pass up the 110 offer, 930 gems for 30 dollars, because I already bought some before that

[pine cosmos]

We're supposed to be getting lots more orb offers in January.... They'd want to be a lot better than the premium offers from the past few days

I just hope that the nemesis survival dungeons continue

[misty elm]

Considering we need 19750 orbs for a rank 5 WM (15400 for a rank 4), I welcome the more chances to get orbs

I want Nemesis Cell dungeons, but SP don't really like them

[pine cosmos]

I regret getting Barberi. He's not bad but I should have held onto the orbs. I haven't ranked him, @100 he's just a decent thunder monster

[misty elm]

Well, he's okay

[pine cosmos]

He'll be fine in about 6 months if I get around to ranking him but I'll rank Remntar, Necro and Sherezar to 110 first. Of course there's Pets to think about too....

[misty elm]

There are no such things as Warmaster Pets. At least for now.

[pine cosmos]

Get back to me about that in March 😉

[little berry]

@ionic tinsel Pretty sure Necromancer would use Klaatu Barata, not Klaatu Verata Niko to bring back his buddy.

[noble inlet]

Stop speaking gibberish lol

[misty elm]

That's the name of his skills 😄

[little berry]

It's not gibberish.

They're in latin.

[noble inlet]

I dont speak litan

[misty elm]

litan 😄

[little berry]

I don't speak latin either. It's a dead language. SP however decided to use it while naming Necromancer's skills, and I honestly really like the effect.

[misty elm]

Try pronouncing the Ultimate of Igursus: Eyjafjallajökull 😄

[little berry]

Ey-ya-fia-tla-yo-coot-L

There

[misty elm]

I mean it sounds more gibberish

[little berry]

Oh. Lol

[misty elm]

Also you're wrong 😄

[little berry]

Welp. Depends on the phonetics. Am not an english master xD

[misty elm]

You though that's English? 😄

[little berry]

Uh. No

I did my best to englishify the pronunciation. I tried, okay?! 😂

[misty elm]

No idea, I'm not english 😄

[little berry]

It's from THAT language to polish and then from polish to english. Gimmie a break, people

[misty elm]

Polish, huh?

[lusty shell]

Think it's a volcano in Iceland or something

[little berry]

Yeah. That's my native language 😅

@lusty shell Correct

[misty elm]

Hmmm

[lusty shell]

[pine cosmos]

Well actually.... And I'm being completely pedantic here but Klaatu Barata Nikto is paying homage to the Evil Dead trilogy f films. Ash says the words incorrectly when claiming the Necronomicon, the book of the dead. In turn, Sam Raimi was paying homage to Star wars because they were the names of 3 characters in Star Wars. Just so ya know

Oh and George Lucas borrowed the names from the 50s B movie"The day the Earth Stood Still"

[echo sundial]

Premium offers seemed way to expensive

1800 orbs and a X rune for 100$

Nty

[gilded coyote]

Terrible deals

Like

Hugely

[echo sundial]

ikr

you can get 4,450 orbs for 50$

for 100$ it shuld of atleast been 10k or 7.5k + rune and element

[little berry]

@pine cosmos Oh right. I knew "Klaatu Barada Nikto" sounded familiar. I remembered it from Scary Movie 5, though 😂 😂

Buut. Fumus Corporis, Anima Suctus etc is actual latin.

[little berry]

Klaatu barada nikto sounds cool.
I could get necromancer just for that

[tall cedar]

Barata*

[little berry]

@tall cedar Ah Ah Ah. Klaatu Barata, but Klaatu Barada Nikto XD

[ivory kernel]

That's a "The day the earth stood still" reference. xD

[little berry]

Sherezar is super good in survival dungeon

[patent sphinx]

1 open rune slot on sherezar rip

Any idea when we’re gonna get next slot discount?

[faint beacon]

No one knows

[hasty mortar]

welcome to the locked slots warmasters club

[little berry]

Can't wait to be in it

[pine cosmos]

I'm in but I want out

[patent sphinx]

Fire wm already had only 1 slot as well, let me out

[echo sundial]

its really sucky

how can they make someone spend gems etc or so much time on farming orbs and then make them spend even more on rune slots

[gilded coyote]

I bit the bullet and unlocked my one slot, can't not have sherryboy on my attack team with full ts

[pine cosmos]

I'm in no hurry with him. Probably won't run him for a while yet til I get him 110 at least. Necro will get unlocked sooner, I need someone with anticipation right now

[misty elm]

I sacrificed 25 gems on my Elvira, but she's the best WM at 100, so it was worth it.

[cinder geyser]

Why Thalassa's dungeon doesn't start with elvira's one

[little berry]

because warmaster rotation?

[tame beacon]

@little berry that’s Taringa delete please

[little berry]

ow my mistake

[cinder geyser]

The rotation starts tomorrow then but if a warmaster will appear once per month then it should be two dungeons a week and 3 dungeons for the last week because we have 9 WMs

[tame beacon]

Ah not necessarily. They can spread it over 5 weeks and technically every WM will be in a month 😜

[mortal bay]

Pets

[tame beacon]

Probably won’t hear that until the new year zizoo. I’d guess similar to Yami though

[mortal bay]

Yes

Battle enhancements, they're not just going to be simple cosmetics

[little berry]

It's a chance for SP to balance WMs among eachother

Strenghen Zahra and Babari, while giving Thalassa something she doesn't really need 😂

[mortal bay]

Tbh if Thalassa never existed all of the other warmasters look good, even Zahra and Barbael

Elvira Necro and Sherezar would still be quite a bit better but none of them would be broken, and none of them would get bashed so often

[little berry]

Rune for rune Sherezar is already beating Thalassa

[cinder geyser]

Nope

[pine cosmos]

Sherezar is faster but Thalassa still completely wrecks teams on her own. She's a disgrace

[crystal vigil]

offense sherezar beats defense sherezar, offense sherezar beats defense thalassa, offense thalassa beats defense sherezar, offense thalassa beats defense thalassa

i'd still say thalassa is better

[little berry]

She just gets her ult very frequently. That's one problem that needs to be fixed

[cinder geyser]

Why you all talk about nerf and countering back to the old play when the faster win

[little berry]

I think thalassa will be countered in future very effectively

[mortal bay]

Meanwhile Sherezar already has plenty of counters

[cinder geyser]

Yep
Sherezar VS sherezar
Gortak VS sherezar etc

[little berry]

CDA gortak?

[cinder geyser]

Still immune to Control so

He can't kill him with cda

[mortal bay]

Gortak has 0cd skills

Sherezar can't touch him

[pine cosmos]

0cd NER

[gray sedge]

Thalassas mega freeze needs to be nerfed

[cinder geyser]

@gray sedge it is impossible for them to change already released monsters skills

[pine cosmos]

We need a monster that has Trait protection as its status caster

[mortal bay]

Nah, just more Neobuki's

[pine cosmos]

Impossible....????? Darmiths BG.......

[cinder geyser]

@pine cosmos thalassa basically remove positive effects

[mortal bay]

Darmiths BG wasn't a nerf

It was a bug fix

Thalassa isn't bugged, she's over tuned

[little berry]

Her ult comes too often

[crystal vigil]

because she has extra turn moves

[little berry]

I dun think its tht

[pine cosmos]

Yep like voltaik and charmless

[crystal vigil]

like, she can do TC->HPF->PE->TC->HPF->move

6 chances to get an ult

[little berry]

It seems to be too often

[crystal vigil]

so of course it's often

when she has 6 chances in one move

[cinder geyser]

Yes

That's why I give up and get a ranked thalassa 😅

[pine cosmos]

No. I won't lower myself

[cinder geyser]

Was going to rank necro but nope he can wait thalassa come first you never know sp might remove the WMs dungeons as they did with nemesis ones when something new is released

[little berry]

Noo coz orbs are for gems.. But the nemesis dungeons were free giveaway

[cinder geyser]

I know they won't last forever

[little berry]

Well not for eternity but..

You still get old generals in team shop

[cinder geyser]

They will release a new kind of monsters like vips nemesis WMs but the older ones must stop and they will make them a obtainable with another way

[little berry]

I hope I can buy warmasters from team shop soon

[cinder geyser]

Because for example vip used to be 20$ I think and nemesis too
But now the vips are on team shop and nemesis are going to be in the new cave game mode

[little berry]

You mean the doors?

[cinder geyser]

Yep

[little berry]

Is it like a battle or just lucky draw

[cinder geyser]

I think it requires luck as I read it but I saw that they are offering rewards up to a rank 5 nemesis

[little berry]

That may be a one in a billion chance

[cinder geyser]

I think that you need at least a year to get that if you where lucky but I think getting a r0 nemesis is fine by me I can use elementium 😂

[little berry]

I'd rather have rank 5 nemesis for free and not use elementium 😂

[misty elm]

But you can lose every reward

[echo sundial]

honestly despite nemesis's comign for free in this cave game thing

im still glad i bought xiron

[little berry]

What cave game ?

[misty elm]

The new game mode, which comes in Janury

[little berry]

O

What do you do in it?

[misty elm]

No idea 😄

[little berry]

Oh

[misty elm]

Open doors, maybe?

[little berry]

And you get nemesis monsters from it?

[misty elm]

No, you have the chance to get one

I guess the chances will be lower than me as the President of the USA, but hey, it's possible 😄

[little berry]

U would make a good president

I'm sure

[misty elm]

An old, bearded Japanese fella with a gender fluid dragon, sure 😄

[noble coral]

I cant wait to play that cave mode 😊

[tame beacon]

3 days of Elvira starting now. Maybe the new rotation is smaller time single dungeons at a time 😃

[cinder geyser]

👍

[pine cosmos]

Ya, that would make sense, 9x3 days per month with 3 days of Nemesis dungeons at the end ( I wish....)

[tame beacon]

I’m sad the first ones Elvira though. Needed the time to get another 1500 orbs for her 😂

[kind crane]

They’ll each appear for every month tho so doesn’t matter too much

I’m just trying to think what order Thalassa was in

[cinder geyser]

Thalassa must be the next one I think or remntar last time they appeared both

[tame beacon]

True Luke, I’m just impatient 😄

[little berry]

How many orbs for level 105 wm? Tx

[polar valve]

4700 if you start from 0

[kind crane]

It’s a shame the blessings weren’t permanent

Like every time you reached the milestone of a rank you got the rewards for your efforts of getting a wm

[little berry]

So
When will we get the warmasters' pets?

And will the pets gone make the warmasters better?

Or they are just for design

[little berry]

Tx nemesis

i think the pets will be design

unless its like

wm bodyguard

wm pet

[kind crane]

I think it’ll enhance the actual wm

It won’t just be for design

[cold sequoia]

I believe it will enhance the WM's trait and give stat boast

[frozen crane]

should i go for elvira or thalassa

im only gonna go for rank 0 for now

[faint beacon]

Light warmester

[kind crane]

Elvira

[little berry]

id say thalassa...megafreezes for low stamina cost

[faint beacon]

Lvl 100 light warmester good

[little berry]

I think Elvira's pet blocks remove positive effects on allies

[cold sequoia]

No

Thats dumb

[past violet]

so, i’m stuck trying to Rank up Elvira to R1. There’s a node with Learnean and everyone has artifact trait, and Al Canine is my only R2 light legendary. Otherwise I have Kaori R2 and Slayentaur R2.
Is it worth waiting and ranking up either Mishka or Taiga to rank up Elvira, or should I save my orbs for a different warmaster?

[faint beacon]

Easy

[past violet]

also, if I go for another warmaster, which one is worth it. (at rank 0)

[gray sedge]

Remntar, but Elvira too good

[brittle hemlock]

Thalassa.

[little berry]

Sherezar

Sherezar is 2X better than Thalassa at rank 0 imo

[crystal vigil]

thalassa is way too op at r4+, good at r1+ but awful at rank 0

[brittle hemlock]

^

[crystal vigil]

if you agree she's awful at rank 0 why did you say that Will should go for thalassa at rank 0?

[little berry]

^

[cinder geyser]

@crystal vigil no awful I beat 130s with r0 thalassa
Her trait is very useful she counter elvira so imagine ranking her

[crystal vigil]

how does she counter elvira?

[cinder geyser]

Remove positive effect duh

[crystal vigil]

she can remove evasion from 1 enemy and mega freeze another i guess

there's still one enemy left after that though

idk

[cinder geyser]

She is very useful at team wars because most of water monsters freeze

[crystal vigil]

that's kind of true

then again

most people use kihaku

so immunity to freeze actually makes the problem worse

[cinder geyser]

@crystal vigil

Possession isnt a big deal so

[crystal vigil]

so possession is basically a 50-50

[little berry]

But now we have sherezar as the best

[crystal vigil]

hmm

how is sherezar>elvira at 100 or sherezar>thalassa at 130?

[little berry]

Sherezar and elvira both.. The best at 100

And sherezar best at 130

[crystal vigil]

how is sherezar>thalassa?

just

how

[kind crane]

Imma go for Thalassa at 100

[little berry]

Well

Just control thalassa or cda.. RIP.. Heh

[cinder geyser]

@little berry just accept the truth that thalassa is the best and the most broken one

[crystal vigil]

well thalassa can control sherezar just as well as sherezar can control thalassa

[cinder geyser]

Thalassa is better at so much situation

[little berry]

Welll.. Ok for now... But not for long

[crystal vigil]

what do you mean? you think they'll nerf thalassa?

[little berry]

No... counters

[crystal vigil]

thalassa really doesn't have counters

[little berry]

Why.. Already has

[cinder geyser]

Even if they made warmaster survival dungeons thalassa would be the best choice due to her control abilities and double stamina

[crystal vigil]

tell me one thalassa counter and i'll tell you why it isn't a counter

in fact

give me a team that you think counters thalassa

and i'll tell you how thalassa can destroy that team

[little berry]

U can attack 130 Thalassa with neobuki, elvira and kozorg hehe

[cinder geyser]

The only thing that might counter her is neobuki and Elvira but that's a combo

[crystal vigil]

ok, so elvira+neobuki

[little berry]

Kozorg too

[crystal vigil]

anyway you can still deny everyone except neo

how is kozorg a thalassa counter in any way?

[cinder geyser]

Yep

[little berry]

Combo

[crystal vigil]

remove positive from elvira, thalassa's chosen, trait disable elvira, thalassa's chosen, abyss bottom on kozorg

everyone except neo denied

though neo is surely a problem

[cinder geyser]

But it still a combo not a monster

But neo can't do unithing unless

[little berry]

Then neo does what.. Shinigami + Megashira = RIP Thalassa
Or hikari, then kozorg RIP Thalassa 😃

[cinder geyser]

Kororg would be already mega frozen

[crystal vigil]

wait let me calculate some damage

[little berry]

Shinigami or hikari removes it

[cinder geyser]

But thalassa has high life plus atum armor that would be 120k life lol

[crystal vigil]

+tenacity shield and 2 str neo doesn't one hit

if one of your teammates has tenacity shield, that's 151k life for thalassa

[little berry]

U can..

[crystal vigil]

2 str neo with double damage does 139k damage against thalassa

3 strength could be a different story

but if you have 3 strength

[little berry]

Or a team strength on elvira

[cinder geyser]

Yeah but what if you have earth Faraday with thalassa 😅

[crystal vigil]

the other 2 teammates will kill the rest of neobuki's team

because you have more team speed

[little berry]

What about 2 neobuki + 1 elvira

[cinder geyser]

What about a thalassa and two Faraday 😅

[little berry]

[crystal vigil]

yeah, thalassa+even 1 earth faraday should be able to kill that

mega freeze elvira and forget about her

2 neobukis get their turn

one of them has to kill thalassa

[little berry]

What about shork, neobuki, elvira
Without faraday?

👀

[crystal vigil]

why shork? he just gets mega frozen lol

[cinder geyser]

That's unfair thalassa should also have a combo

[little berry]

Just remove lol

[crystal vigil]

anyway 2 neobuki+elvira

[little berry]

But you see.. The counters are getting there.. Soon my boi.. Soon

[crystal vigil]

if we get another neobuki, then thalassa might start getting countered

[little berry]

Imaginary future monster :
Immune to remove positive
Turn transfer + water hater
What then?

[cinder geyser]

The only thing that counters her is a Control or freeze Immunity monster with trait protection (not as status caster)
Or immune to remove positive effects with evasion as status caster

[little berry]

Let's name that monster X

So, X+Elvira+Neo

[cinder geyser]

@little berry basically run a monster that counters that x monster with thalassa

[little berry]

X Turn Transfers to Neo..Neo RIP Thalassa

[cinder geyser]

Faraday told him stop lol

And rip neobuki

[little berry]

No lol

Cuz u know why?

Neobuki will be under evasion from Elvira

[crystal vigil]

ok neo kills thalassa

what now?

[cinder geyser]

Well that's a 3 combo and even if neobuki kills thalassa then what about the Faraday lol

[little berry]

Then neo goes on to kill everyone else

[crystal vigil]

because of anticipation enemy X is dead

no lol she'd get killed by faraday first

wait

if you use faraday

then neo can't even use shinigami

[cinder geyser]

Yup

[little berry]

Why not

[crystal vigil]

because then faraday will get a turn

and kill neo

[little berry]

Ok but u can still TT with X

[crystal vigil]

yeah, you can

and it will kill thalassa that way

[little berry]

X gives extra turn + water hater

[crystal vigil]

but then faraday gets a turn after neo

and kills neo

right?

[little berry]

Then X ressurrcct neo 😂

[crystal vigil]

but turn transfer triggered anticipation

so during that turn faraday killed X

[cinder geyser]

Faraday already killed that x monster

Unless he had uriel essence 😂

[little berry]

Well before that TT skill, X actually used another skilll.. Which gives himself evasion for 2 turns and extra turn

[crystal vigil]

wait

you're imagining a monster

with remove positive effects blocked

evasion 2 turns+extra turn

water hater+turn transfer

is that a mega warmaster? 😂

[cinder geyser]

😂

[little berry]

😂 it will come wait and see

Ok 50% chance of killing itself.. Like warspellz

But safe with elvira

[cinder geyser]

But that still a 3 monsters combo than what are you going to do when face thalassa in team wars 😂

[little berry]

A monster named Y who can do that 😎

Y is a water cda monster with 3608 speed

[crystal vigil]

don't think that's enough

[cinder geyser]

OK then monster x and y can counter thalassa when paired with neobuki and Elvira and sherezar can be easily countered by more than 100 monster

[little berry]

Use 100s of X and Y.. As many as you like to counter thalassa👽

[echo sundial]

who's Y :<

[little berry]

a future Thalassa counter

[cinder geyser]

@echo sundial you must spare half hour to read all that 😂

[little berry]

Its really worth it

[echo sundial]

like

when you ask for a thalassa counter you need to ask yourself 2 things

Do you want a thalassa counter for pvp or in wars

[crystal vigil]

in pvp neo is kind of a counter but earth faraday makes it not really a counter

[cinder geyser]

And the final result we have proven that thalassa can't be countered and is the most broken

[little berry]

Not for long

[echo sundial]

i agree with Psilotus

[cinder geyser]

We'll see

[echo sundial]

sure she's op as hecc

but

SP will always make something more op then the last

[little berry]

Sherezar will rule one day.

[echo sundial]

sammy and xiron were op

[crystal vigil]

basically, we need more neobukis

[echo sundial]

then we got thalassa and elvira

[crystal vigil]

and neobuki counters sherezar too lol

so no, sherezar will not rule

[cinder geyser]

Plus nothing can be better than thalassa it must be God or something

[echo sundial]

tbf Sherezar isnt the best wm tho he's certainly not bad

[little berry]

Lol. But not weak to thunder

[crystal vigil]

well, if they make a nature neobuki

then 😂

[echo sundial]

Sherezar is in the top 50% of wm for me

[little berry]

[echo sundial]

Why do people hate barbaerl so much?

[cinder geyser]

He is good but thalassa is #1

[crystal vigil]

because thalassa

like

why get barbael

if you can get thalassa

which is better in every way

if thalassa didn't exist barbael wouldn't be that awful

[little berry]

Barbatos is good again.. Barbael will return

[echo sundial]

Thalassa
Elvira
Remntar
Sherezar
Necromancer
Babari
Gortak
Zahra
Barbael

thats my order

for best to worst

[crystal vigil]

how is barbatos good again?

[echo sundial]

assuming 130

urm

[little berry]

Sherezar > Remntar imo

[echo sundial]

Barbatos actually is pretty good

[crystal vigil]

i know

[echo sundial]

you can get double dmg + 50% dmg and then do an aoe

[crystal vigil]

but ever since faraday became a thing

he became a lot less useful

[little berry]

Disable trait heh

[echo sundial]

just dont attack faradays 4Head

[crystal vigil]

true

then again

[strong bison]

[crystal vigil]

cain exists

[strong bison]

Cain is better

But both are great

[little berry]

Igneus >cain

Warmaster Igneus

[crystal vigil]

how?

[strong bison]

Nani?

[noble inlet]

:GWunuDrakeNo:

:GWunuDrakeNo:

No

[cinder geyser]

Cain can kill a whole team with more than 200k life

[strong bison]

👆 :GWqlabsBan1:

[noble inlet]

Just no

[echo sundial]

Igneus could actually be a warmaster

[little berry]

^

[noble inlet]

No

Hr cant

No clothes

[strong bison]

Belbreath can

[crystal vigil]

belbreath could be a pet

[strong bison]

😡

A wm

[echo sundial]

i need an anticipation dude

not wm

[crystal vigil]

necromancer

[strong bison]

Necro

[crystal vigil]

oh

[strong bison]

Oh

[echo sundial]

nah im going for r2 shez

[strong bison]

Scorpio guy

[cinder geyser]

Sting wasteclaw

[strong bison]

Yep

[cinder geyser]

Or tigen belbreath as sc

[strong bison]

He will be in an event

[little berry]

'Wasteclaw'

[crystal vigil]

thanks for reminding me that i should craft him

[strong bison]

Belbreath is one of the top 10 monsters

[crystal vigil]

like, i have enough cells but completely forgot about it

[little berry]

Belbreath got nerfed bad

[crystal vigil]

wait

i don't have enough cells

[strong bison]

Nani?

[crystal vigil]

i need to request

[echo sundial]

i try in Islands or Mazes

dunno why

[crystal vigil]

when did belbreath get nerfed?

[echo sundial]

everything else i do eveyrthing in

[strong bison]

@little berry when?

[echo sundial]

but islands i just do nothing and mazes are just Epic/Legendary + Hidden Path

[little berry]

I mean... He had aoe remove debuff..
Now only single

[noble inlet]

Warmasters arnt just good skills and clothes

[strong bison]

Oh

Thats nothing

She*

I mean after the maze ended did they nerf her?

[little berry]

No

[crystal vigil]

she can still technically do AoE remove debuff and buff

but you need 2 moveslots for that

and she has so many good skills

[strong bison]

Oh great

[little berry]

It was on wiki first as aoe

[crystal vigil]

but skill change for free

soooooo

[strong bison]

Then she is top 5

Includeing wm

[crystal vigil]

because 1cd remove positive+extra turn

and 1cd remove negative+extra turn

you can cycle those 2

[strong bison]

Yep

Add metal wm ...

[noble inlet]

Sammy may as well be a warmaster if you call "good" monsters warmasters

[strong bison]

And you have a loop

[noble inlet]

Cuz igneus isn't good enough to be a warmaster

[echo sundial]

igneus is best monster

can easily beat thalassa

[crystal vigil]

nice joke

[strong bison]

I am just saying

[noble inlet]

Nice joke

[strong bison]

Belbreath and metal wm can beat everyone

And if you add r1+ thasala

You are good to go

[noble inlet]

Cant beat elvira

[echo sundial]

i have a question

[noble inlet]

Cuz she broke

[strong bison]

Can*

[echo sundial]

status caster anticipation vs great dispell

do they get an extra turn

[strong bison]

Pos remove

No

[noble inlet]

They probably dont

[strong bison]

Cos it removes and then get a turn

@noble inlet belbreath > elvira

[echo sundial]

bebreath and metal wm can beat everyone huh?

[strong bison]

Yes

[echo sundial]

Slaps Sherezar

[strong bison]

And him

[noble inlet]

Sherezars can counters a Thalasa

Just need ranks

[strong bison]

And belbreath kills both

[echo sundial]

Sherezar on attack beats thalassa on defence

[noble inlet]

Cuz sherezar fastest warmaster

[crystal vigil]

and the reverse too

[echo sundial]

thalassa on attack beats sherezar on defence

it isnt a reliable counter

[strong bison]

And belbreath kills all

Its a fact

[noble inlet]

Neobuki>Belbreath

[strong bison]

Live with it

[noble inlet]

Tbh

[crystal vigil]

^vic

[echo sundial]

now skill changes are free. lets give all monster 3 rune slots no cost for replacing

[strong bison]

Yeah

[crystal vigil]

no

[noble inlet]

Id rather have

[crystal vigil]

then you'd buy like 20 level 10 runes

[noble inlet]

Free name change

[crystal vigil]

and be done forever

ok maybe 30 because defense team

[noble inlet]

Rune lords timed challange would be too easy

[echo sundial]

nani but i wanna swap ts for speed on sherezar depending on who im going vs

[noble inlet]

Equip

Then unequip

Repeat

[echo sundial]

bye bye gems

[strong bison]

:GWpaboaWeSmart:

[noble inlet]

Unranked sherezar is

Ranked he is

[echo sundial]

not r1

r2+ he is

i wouldnt even use his r1 skill

[noble inlet]

Not rank 1 yeah

Whem i say ranked i mean like 130

[echo sundial]

r1 sherezar has one purpose and thats the stat boost

[noble inlet]

But 110 he is

He does more than that

At r 1

[echo sundial]

i wouldnt even use r3's skill tbf

[dreamy rock]

Yes!

Elvira dungeon is here

[noble inlet]

Isnt rank 3 skill

[crystal vigil]

r3 skill only exists to annoy you on last node of floor 2 WM dungeon

[dreamy rock]

Finally!

[noble inlet]

I forget

[echo sundial]

Master's Scroll, AOE CDA, Random Spellbook, Great Dispell

[crystal vigil]

why master?

[noble inlet]

What is r3 skill

[crystal vigil]

why not apprentice's?

[echo sundial]

master is 100% apprentice is 50%

[noble inlet]

Why not aoe curse

[echo sundial]

doesnt matter which]

[crystal vigil]

true vision

master has higher cd

[noble inlet]

What foes master do

Idk what yall are talking about

[echo sundial]

oof damn aoe curse

urm

[noble inlet]

I dont memories the skill names

[echo sundial]

AOE curse, AOE CDA, Random spell book, great dispell

i made my mind

[noble inlet]

I wish there was room for aoe curse

[crystal vigil]

master: single CDA, 2 cd
apprentice: 50% single CDA, 1 cd

[noble inlet]

But on deny set its hard to fit in

[echo sundial]

ah

[noble inlet]

50% cda???

[echo sundial]

apprentice then i wasnt thinking about cd

[noble inlet]

That exists?

[echo sundial]

50% chance to cda

[dreamy rock]

Aoe Curse
Which was robbed from Shademoon...

[noble inlet]

Thats new

[crystal vigil]

no it's not new

[noble inlet]

50% cda

[crystal vigil]

it was always a thing

you just didn't look at skills group 1

[noble inlet]

Sherezar has a lot of new effects though dori

No i mean new to ml

Dori

[echo sundial]

did they only just add mega freeze to xirons list?

cuz i've only just started getting it

[noble inlet]

No

Ivr gotten mega freeze before

[echo sundial]

i've only started getting it the past week etc

[noble inlet]

Sherezar heve has immune to trait disable

Thats new

[echo sundial]

he doesnt

[noble inlet]

He does

[echo sundial]

he has immune to cooldown activated

[noble inlet]

In 105 skill

[echo sundial]

oh

[echo sundial]

i thought u meant for his trait

[noble inlet]

Trait cannot be removed

[echo sundial]

yes but it costs a turn

and its not always that

[noble inlet]

Ik but still new

Damage boost and tortures immunity are the worst 1s on there

[echo sundial]

yes but who do you use it on with no gaurantee's

attackers usually have less health so skill mirror and damage mirror are less useful

[past violet]

I missed a lot since my q, but is it worth ranking Elvira to R1, or save my orbs for R0 Sherezar

[echo sundial]

tanks usually have more hp but less dmg so getting dmg boost or double damage on them isnt worth it

save orbs

[noble inlet]

I still really like the 105 skill

One of my favorites on a

[echo sundial]

Elvira R0 and R1-5 are the same to me if im being honest

[noble inlet]

Build

[echo sundial]

you use Elvira for evasion not much else ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[past violet]

hmmm ok

she’s on my defence atm with Cain and Kihaku. Maybe I should replace her with Remtar?

[noble inlet]

Sherezars 105 skill is really fun

[echo sundial]

no

[noble inlet]

You cant remove any of the effects

[echo sundial]

elvira's like 2nd best wm

best r0 wm

[past violet]

ok i’ll keep her on defence lol

[echo sundial]

yeah xD

[noble inlet]

I had someone get unremoveable triple damage on a buro

[echo sundial]

Elvira, Remntar and Neobuki is the best defence rn

[noble inlet]

From sherezar

[past violet]

My attack is Charmless (from the New Year chest) R2 Canine and R2 Neobuki

i should get Remtar

[echo sundial]

new years chest?

[noble inlet]

^

[past violet]

yeah, there was a leak in Taringa

[noble inlet]

What?

[echo sundial]

dont talk about leaks here

[past violet]

sorry

[echo sundial]

dw xD

[noble inlet]

You can talk leaks

Just not post imigaes

[echo sundial]

oh

my bad then ahaha

[noble inlet]

At least thats what mari or sonnor told me

[past violet]

but still, Remtar would be best

[echo sundial]

Thalassa
Elvira
Remntar
Sherezar
Necromancer
Babari
Gortak
Zahra
Barbael

[noble inlet]

It was a while ago though idk if updated

[echo sundial]

thats my list of best to worst

[past violet]

to match with my current team

[echo sundial]

Barbari --> Barbael is just personal preference if im being honest

[noble inlet]

I think gortak>barbari but other than that i agree with that list

Barbeal isnt that good

So

[echo sundial]

its why he's last

[misty elm]

Guys, it's BABARI, not BARBARI 😄

Like the elephant 😄

[past violet]

Remtar at R0 is good right? mainly for his trait/status caster

[echo sundial]

yeah

[noble inlet]

I say barbari

Cuz why not

[little berry]

That list is completely wrong, Zahra is clearly the best ranked and unranked wm

[echo sundial]

i just say whichever im feeling

omg yes

[noble inlet]

I just got this boi

Might plop him on defence

Idk what to run him though

Ts holder

[echo sundial]

Thalassa Good
Elvira Good at R0
Remntar Good at R0
Sherezar Good at R2
Necromancer Good at R2
Babari
Gortak
Zahra
Barbael

dont care about the rest

[past violet]

@echo sundial why would you say Neobuki, Elvira and Remtar are the best defence

[misty elm]

Those stats on Necro are a little bit off

[echo sundial]

urm

[noble inlet]

None of the warmasters are even bad tbh

Just some are better than others

[echo sundial]

Neobuki has an immunity to remove pos

[noble inlet]

The stats are off?

[echo sundial]

so u get evasion + damage mirror

[noble inlet]

Skill mirror*

[echo sundial]

^

and that cant be removed

• neobuki can give evasion

so you have someone who starts with evasion who's evasion cant be removed and can give his team evasion

[past violet]

and Neobuki would act as the attacker there too

[echo sundial]

or remntar

you dont need a denier when you have evasion and skill mirror

[past violet]

what runes for all of them then?

[noble inlet]

Can DM be a warmaster :GWqlabsKek:

[little berry]

I want necromancers crow so bad

[misty elm]

POWER 3,355
LIFE 38,001
SPEED 3,498

[noble inlet]

Oh stats are the same

[misty elm]

No, they are less

[noble inlet]

O

Cuz levels

[misty elm]

Your are 3353 power, 37957 life and 3496 speed

It's at 100

[noble inlet]

Oof

Close enough right

[misty elm]

Yes, but why are they different?

[noble inlet]

Beats me

Maybe mari knows

@wide python dont hate me for pinging oof

[misty elm]

Oh, she'll eat you alive 😄

[wide python]

@noble inlet never hate you

[noble inlet]

Yay

[wide python]

but Im not sure of the question

[misty elm]

His Necromancer has less stats than the one on the wiki.

I'll check mine (he's 105 , though)

[crystal vigil]

maybe he screenshotted it while they were increasing

[misty elm]

Hmmm, maybe

[crystal vigil]

because you know how when you level up it goes progressively from the stats of the previous level to the ones of the next level

[noble inlet]

I dont speak smart

[little berry]

Anyway, back to Warmasters, I love the whole concept.

[noble inlet]

What

[misty elm]

Gimme a sec, I'll post a screen on the stats of my Necro

These should be the stats at 105:

POWER 3,507
LIFE 41,876
SPEED 3,657

They are correct

[noble inlet]

Looks the same as mine

Just a few more stats

[misty elm]

105

[little berry]

I wish I ranked Elvira instead of getting Sherezar. 😢

I still haven't even got my X rune and that's the only reason I did it.

[cold sequoia]

Lmao ranked elvira makes no difference

You will get the blessing

[misty elm]

Ranked Elvira is actually useful in battle, instead of only at the start

With attacking runes she hits like a truck

[bold mural]

Does anyone know why Evilra is only in the dungeon for 3 days?

[polar valve]

new rotation

[cinder geyser]

^

[bold mural]

I see, thanks

[echo sundial]

When do we get the blessing

[tame beacon]

I think it’s between the 30th Dec and 6th Jan if I remember right

[misty elm]

Most likely at Jan. 2.

[novel swift]

Grinded for elriva. Worth it

[faint beacon]

🤔

[tall cedar]

Gratz

[little berry]

[bold mural]

I will have to wait another month 😦

[echo sundial]

😦

[lapis current]

ello lads

im confused with how remntars reflection work

so i went against a hackter and he confused my team

but it din get reflected?

ow okay i got it

my team got confused twice

[wanton briar]

If you are confused/hacked/rebooted then the loop damage loops back at you

[little berry]

Can someone tell me no. Of orbs for floor 4 alone?

[barren arch]

See pinned messages. 😃

[little berry]

Got it thanks helen

[pine cosmos]

Loving my Necro. Thalassa no longer a complete headwrecker to deal with 🤘

[noble coral]

1.Sherezar
2.Thalassa
3.Elvira
4.Remntar
5.Necromancer
6.Babari
7.Gortak
8.Zahra
9.Barbael

Sherezar is beast

[modern gust]

Why you think like that

[noble coral]

Becuase it is

[little berry]

Oh my

[modern gust]

Im quite disapointed by him

[noble coral]

U dont know how to use him thats why

[modern gust]

🤔

😥

[little berry]

Remntar above Necromancer? That's a crime

[noble coral]

Remntar ❤️

[modern gust]

Have you got sherezar?

[noble coral]

Using Remntar with sherezar will be the best team

[little berry]

Can't see what's so good about him apart from the Status Caster. The Special Immunity is nice but can be easily bypassed.

[noble coral]

Yes

[modern gust]

I dont have it😭

[noble coral]

That's salty

😦

[modern gust]

Is he really appying cooldown restore all allies

@noble coral cuz if he is, this will make him the strongest ever

[little berry]

Someone finally made a list with sherezar on top

Nice job @noble coral

[noble coral]

❤️

@little berry i heard that you really like him xD

[little berry]

Her*
I heard you like her too

[noble coral]

Lol xD

[little berry]

Sherezar < Zahra
Change my mind

[noble coral]

@modern gust he can clearns negative and positive effect, can applies random torture and control skills to enemies plus gains positive effect, AoE activation cooldowns to all enemies and AoE deactivate cooldowns to all allies plus block positive applies effect to all enemies

He is Insane ❤️❤️

[little berry]

Oh yeah

[noble coral]

All his skills are 0 colldown lol

[little berry]

That's insane wow

[noble coral]

😉

[little berry]

And the only warmaster who can disable shademoon with aoe

[crystal vigil]

thalassa can ignore shademoon's existence

[little berry]

Sherezar cN ignore thalassa's existence

[crystal vigil]

the reverse holds too

[little berry]

Since its a truce the faster walks out as winner

[brittle hemlock]

Thalassa: 3542
Shademoon: 3454
Sherezar: 3575

[crystal vigil]

5 ts thalassa on offense outspeeds 6ts sherezar on defense

5 ts sherezar on offense outspeed 6ts thalassa on defense

that's the only thing that matters

[little berry]

Minus guardian

[crystal vigil]

why no guardian?

[brittle hemlock]

--

[little berry]

Cuz its a truce-breaker

[brittle hemlock]

i don't often do guardian lmao

as in, i have nevr activated guardian

[crystal vigil]

that's your fault

[little berry]

@noble coral help its a 2 vs 1

[brittle hemlock]

not really

it's a 1v1 with 1 spectator

[noble coral]

What to do bro ?

Lol

[brittle hemlock]

spectate, smiley

[crystal vigil]

tell me one reason why not to attack with rune guardian activated

[little berry]

Ok so now we 2v1 drinjanko

[brittle hemlock]

if im not participating, you're not. i just provided stats

[noble coral]

Sherezar in defense or in team attack is same he is speed in almost way

He is beast

[crystal vigil]

on offense rune guardian helps you

on defense it doesn't

[noble coral]

Why do i need it

Sherezar still the best

His speed is more than thalassa lol

[crystal vigil]

Doesn't matter

If you have a thalassa with 5ts with rune guardian activated

[noble coral]

If my speed is going to decrease than thalassas speed is going to decrease too but i still play first

[crystal vigil]

You outspeed sherezar with 6ts on defense

Thalassa's speed is going to increase because she's the one attacking
Or sherezar's gonna increase because he's the one attacking

Because

Rune guardian only works when you're attacking

[noble coral]

So

Sherezar wins

Lol

[crystal vigil]

If you attack a sherezar with 6 ts on defense

[little berry]

I think big n smiley won this

[crystal vigil]

Using a thalassa with 5 ts

Your thalassa goes first

[noble coral]

Nah

It cant be like that

[crystal vigil]

It can

Because of rune guardian

[noble coral]

The speed on my sherezar is intense hard so thalassa is a bit lower

I can active rune guardian too lol

[crystal vigil]

But rune guardian doesn't work on defense

Only on offense

I know it's dumb

[little berry]

It will soon

[crystal vigil]

But that's the way it works

[noble coral]

Yes

Wait i have an idea

XD

If my rune guardian doesnt work on defense so the speed on him is very strong to compare with other team speed lv X and Thalassa same as Sherezar but he still plays first again

[little berry]

Sherezar isn't even top 2

[noble coral]

Sometime people dont use rune guardian

[crystal vigil]

Not my fault that they don't use guardian

[noble coral]

Lol i laught here so hard

[brittle hemlock]

like yours truly

[silk ridge]

Dude Sherezar is just okay

[little berry]

Sherezar top 1, so not top 2 Cosmo

[silk ridge]

There’s better warmasters

[little berry]

Tbh the all time best warmaster is clearly........ Barbael. Obviously.

[heavy sparrow]

Sherezar is the 2nd best WM

[little berry]

Thalassa and Elvira are both better

[noble coral]

Sherezar skills are amazing as hell