monster-discussion

[noble coral]

❤️

[polar valve]

I think Sherezar is a bit better than Thalassa at 100

[noble coral]

Yeah

[polar valve]

but at r4, things change a lot

[noble coral]

Still think at rank 4 Sherezar can make a good peace in battle

[gray sedge]

Are people gonna change their names now or what? 🤔

[polar valve]

I will wait and see how it works

[noble coral]

Sherezar,Remntar and any warmaster will be very good in team

[unreal flume]

well

getting thalassa to 110

[polar valve]

@gray sedge thanks for reminding

[unreal flume]

means one step closer to get her to 115

:weSmart:

[gray sedge]

Everybody named skill change for gold smh

[polar valve]

yeah

[noble coral]

Skill changes for Gold, im soo so happy that devs made all skilsl to change free whenever we want, it really cost to much 20 gems for 1 skill

[little berry]

its not even for gold

[unreal flume]

Duke, worth it :Kek:

[little berry]

its free!

[noble coral]

Yes its free nothing cost now

[little berry]

lol i still have this name

this one is better.

[noble coral]

I wish to craft runes dont need time on it

They need to remove

It will be very nice

[unreal flume]

what

pretty nice thinking

you got there i must admit

[noble coral]

Like old times to craft runes no need to wait 2min 10h or more to craft rune just remove time

is it curse a good torture skill?Lol I was in battle and used it but did not give me much impression, it seemed like normal skill

[polar valve]

I mean wait for the other rounds...

[noble coral]

Yeah someone enemy had32k hp in first turn it removed 5k hp in second 10k and in third 20k lol

[polar valve]

its great against most tanks

especially considering they dont have self-clear moves

[noble coral]

Yeah, charmless and the rest extra turnes are dead by this

Dying to be dead

[unreal flume]

i dont get how is 10% of 32k 5k

🤔

[polar valve]

yeah it should be 3,2k

[noble coral]

An enemy have 32 or 35 k HP dont know good and in first turn it removed 5k hp in sencond 10kand in third it removed 20k

[polar valve]

if it truly removed 5k, he should have had around 50k hp

plus 10k is 20% of 50k

and 20k is 40% of 50k

[unreal flume]

yeah

and he could not even get to try it out

[noble coral]

I attacked Sentinel in adventure map curse removed him 5k hp

[crystal vigil]

i think

[polar valve]

what node?

[crystal vigil]

level 100 and level 110(maybe 115 too)=sherezar better

other levels=thalassa better

[noble coral]

Would be very good if there is a Traing Center to use all monsters skills from group 1 to group 3 or 4 without getting interrupted lol

[polar valve]

there should be

[unreal flume]

offtopic

[noble coral]

Yes like SP

[brittle hemlock]

it's called skillchangeforfree+adventuremap

[little berry]

xD

[noble coral]

Lol

[polar valve]

its called your battle points being drained

[noble coral]

🤔

[polar valve]

as if there werent already enough dungeons to do that

[noble coral]

Sorry to say here but its off topic seems that everyone is online at warmaster channel. Does anyone play Pubg there ? 😆

[polar valve]

Remntar does

[fickle acorn]

Ask that in #talk-to-rocks

[brittle hemlock]

^

[noble coral]

Lel

[misty elm]

No, I don't play Playerunknown's Battlegrounds

And Warmasters 4EVA (for staying on topic)

[little berry]

Made it to 4700 orbs.
105 Sherezar here I come

[kind crane]

Sweet

[misty elm]

crying in the corner because of the lack orbs

Save them for ranking up

How would you counter her? Like she can do almost everything (except inflicting high damage)

[tame beacon]

A thunder monster with anticipation and immune to trait disable? 😂

[misty elm]

No such thing yet ...

Also Immune to Trait Disable doesn't mean Immune to Freeze

[tame beacon]

Yeh but I think zizooo is also talking about in the future 😃

[misty elm]

Yeah, I know that 😃

[tame beacon]

Immune to control too then. First triple trait 😄

[misty elm]

NONONONO

[tame beacon]

To be honest, even immune to trait disable + immune to control would mess with Thalassa a lot

As well as every single other control monster... 😅

[little berry]

Neobuki is already countering thalassa with elvira eh

[misty elm]

I have a faster control monster with CDA, but she gets her Ultimate whenever I active her cooldowns (also, looks like every other monster too, got rekt by a Taiga with 2 Ults in a row)

But you need two monsters in synergy to somehow counter one ...

[little berry]

Yeah I like that

Its more challenging

[misty elm]

Well, at least now you can change the skills anytime, even before a battle

So, in a sense, there are more than 4 moves now

[little berry]

Oh yeahhh 😎

[misty elm]

😎 😎 😎

[wild locust]

Can I do Elvira dungeon first 100 cells with a lvl 100 al canine, taiga, cloud/roci?

[lapis current]

anyone mind explaining

why double precision is so good

and yes csilla u defo can

[unreal flume]

no he cant, he needs rank 1 monsters so he can play the dungeons

you never miss

vs anyone

[lapis current]

ow ye first 100 celks

ye but thats it

u just never miss

[unreal flume]

yeah

without it

[lapis current]

who gets buffed by this

[unreal flume]

you can miss even vs someone who dont have hardened or anything

whole team

[lapis current]

oww

[unreal flume]

i mean, every monster

[lapis current]

so basically

all the traits

with 20% reduction is rendered useless

so its a good support

ish

for ur denier

[unreal flume]

yeah

even 50% non work

[lapis current]

ye fairs

damm i dun have a team

for this dungeon doe

[unreal flume]

:SadCat:

[lapis current]

only got r1 piixelion and r1 fenix

haha

[unreal flume]

lol
me no ranked magic monsters

except some epics

[lapis current]

yE

but what if u run

immunity contro

den that counters her right

[unreal flume]

you use cda :weSmart:

or clear it

[lapis current]

ye that works

she has clear?

[unreal flume]

magic warmaster? he can clear positive effecs of enemies at rank 3, or clear all effects and get extra turn at level 100

[lapis current]

ah lit

so its worth getting tha

than

*then

[unreal flume]

he good

[noble coral]

Imagine this special skill: Deals moderate magic damage removes 100% stamina to all targets, applies Oblivion to all targets. Oblivion- prevents enemy about Special attack effects. So they can not be able to use their Ultimate while are in this effect. Lol will be very good nowadays so Thalassa or such monsters cant do anything

[little berry]

That sounds awesome

I think a warmasters pet should have it

[cinder geyser]

@noble coral uhh stamina relics

[noble coral]

🤔?¿

I mean they can use whatever but while are in Oblivion will not be able to use their ultimate xD

[cinder geyser]

Uhh remove negative effects

[noble coral]

Yes, if you can you do it

[patent sphinx]

People who’s gonna get sherezar: what are you going to do vs shademoon?

[little berry]

I’m going to end up getting Shadermoon first because... yeah.

[patent sphinx]

Almost in top teams will get shademoon at least at 120 I guess

Idk how to use sherezar vs him as your main denier if you can’t plug in thalassa

[kind crane]

get both of them

[patent sphinx]

You can’t always use thalassa in wars and you can’t always use sherezar and shademoon in the same team

[kind crane]

Yeah but I’ll have the option to use either

[gilded coyote]

I don't see shademoon being an issue? If he is just attack someone else lol

[little berry]

Isn't sherezar a spirit monster

If shademoon attacks, sherezar is dead

[gilded coyote]

he is indeed spirit, and yep dead indeed

[little berry]

I guess use sherezar with Tijen

To counter Shademoon

Or with belbreath

[cold sequoia]

or just use single target CDA

[noble coral]

Shademoon,Neobuki and Frosilka best team ever

[little berry]

That team is missing treezard.

Throw frosilka out and replace it with treezard

Then 👌

[noble coral]

Why treezard ???

[little berry]

Cause treezard is the best monster in the game. Obviously.

I think he's joking around. But hey, that's just a theory! A game theory! (I just had to)

[noble coral]

Nah lol

[little berry]

I'm joking lol

[noble coral]

Ik xd

Wow shademoon and frosilka can evade elvira's, thalassas etc etc special skill

😈

While evading neobuki gets mega freeze so frosilka helps her xd

This team never dies :p

[cold sequoia]

I don't see it countering thalassa

Just trait disable

[crystal vigil]

Yeah

HPF on shademoon

TC on ally

PE on shademoon

HPF on elvira

TC on ally

AB on Frosilka

And that's a 65% chance to mega freeze everyone

[pine cosmos]

Any news anywhere about the new Relics for Shez?

[tame beacon]

We know what they are yeh 😃

[cinder geyser]

Xiron essence and ruby trap I think

[ornate oak]

What are they?

[tame beacon]

Ruby Trap: after being attacked and damaged, if under a control effect, remove 45 stamina from attacker.

Essence of Xiron: when turn starts, if wearers stamina is below 50%, give 55 stamina to wearer

[gilded coyote]

Essence is nice, that trap is decent but pretty specific

[ornate oak]

The trap is good considering other traps aren’t that great other than Oblation

[little berry]

Its a girl

[tame beacon]

What.

Both relics are 3 turns too

[mortal bay]

It's not a girl

[cinder geyser]

But in the cover art it seems like it's a girl
Well multi gender 😂

[little berry]

Every monster here is a bi. I don’t know why.

[echo sundial]

Ayy

It’s coming

I got my orbs ready

Which floor do u get the relics on

[tame beacon]

Finishing floor 6

[brittle hemlock]

Not every. I know for sure iMigbo I a boy, Gen Shannara is a girl...

[little berry]

General Ingvar is boy.

[river laurel]

Anyone know if Remntar is worth runing seriously? As in is he any good?

[noble coral]

He is perfecr i just won alone battle

[dreamy rock]

He's worth it
He's best at 100 imo
Besides Elvira of course

[little berry]

Ok so I plan on getting the magic WM unranked, would a good skillset be Skills Group 3 + Master's Scroll with 3 ?

[misty elm]

Get him and hatch him first. You can experiment with his skills later (remember, free skill change 😉 )

[little berry]

Ooo yeah I forgot about that lol

[misty elm]

Shame on you 😄

[cold sequoia]

I am doing 3 ts

or maybe give him strenght for extra damg

[misty elm]

Strength on the Magic WM?

[unreal flume]

at 100
I'd run him with 3 ts

but attacker can work too

[cold sequoia]

ye just one strenght

He is not a denier at 100

so might as well get some dmg on him

[little berry]

I may run

Or

Cuz his life is on the low end at lvl 100

Or I may run

[kind crane]

Eww

[ionic tinsel]

I agree with pirate

[noble coral]

Cant wait for magic warmaster ....

Lol

[patent sphinx]

Can’t wait to get shademoon and delete every defense which uses magic wm as denier lol

[ionic tinsel]

Yes

I’m getting necro rank one

[fresh blaze]

Can’t wait ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[kind crane]

You’re getting it Vali?

[little berry]

for one of the best and most balanced legends?

:GWomoDrakeYea:

[cold sequoia]

Just a few more hours

[ionic tinsel]

@little berry 8 more mins

[little berry]

Nope, still an hour left

[ionic tinsel]

Oh lol

[cold sequoia]

Imma get is asap

[echo sundial]

I have a timer set for when it comes out 😂

[noble inlet]

He has a new positive effect :GWtogaPagChomp:

[little berry]

Trait protection?

[misty elm]

Looks like it

Still doesn't help against Thalassa, if they wanted to counter her with it

[echo sundial]

Hypeee

[misty elm]

Cryyyyyy

(no orbs 😭 )

[echo sundial]

😭

At least he’s out over Christmas so u might get some $ or gift cards

That’s if you want to get him x_x

[misty elm]

I won't spend it on the game, I'll spend it on my family ...

[echo sundial]

30s!!

Ah that’s smart

10s

[misty elm]

Plus I already got the gifts (new phone, clothes, VR glasses)

I was a really good Santa for myself 😄

[echo sundial]

First node is evasion

[misty elm]

That was fast

I mean literally seconds after the launch 😄

[little berry]

Heres a hype @echo sundial
A shezzy a day keeps the Necro away
@ionic tinsel

[misty elm]

How is that?

[cold sequoia]

Necro a day keeps a sherry away

[ionic tinsel]

Yon

[echo sundial]

Evasion young

^ order for first floor so far

[icy bluff]

new warmasters

[cold sequoia]

Well necro is the best counter for sherry

like it or not

thats the truth

[echo sundial]

Then random buf

[misty elm]

Necro technically counters CDA (0cd extra turn move, which you should run at 130 too) and Anticipation helps against Great Dispel.

[echo sundial]

And then contmmunity 😦

[noble coral]

Trait protection or cooldowns activation?

[misty elm]

😂

[noble coral]

LoL

[misty elm]

Whyyy??? 😂

[ionic tinsel]

Is gelotron enough to solo dungeon?

105

[little berry]

What is this now ?

[kind crane]

No

[misty elm]

SP you had one job!!! 😄 😄

[ionic tinsel]

Exactly

I’m going for necro

[little berry]

Can't they it right for once my gosh !

[misty elm]

Maaan, even the descriptions are bugged 😄 😄

[little berry]

😂😂

[misty elm]

But I think it'd CD protection, there were no mentions about trait protection elsewhere (still helpful)

[little berry]

Yeah that description still gonna confuse players thou

[misty elm]

But still, this is FAIL 😄

[little berry]

Yes !

[echo sundial]

It’s cool down protecti

I’m on node 20 and that’s what it says

[misty elm]

That was fast

[noble coral]

I want that instead cooldown

[misty elm]

Errr, so which one is it?

[little berry]

That is a positive effect he casts with one of his skills..

[misty elm]

Also is he in your team?

[tame beacon]

His status caster is cooldowns protection.

[noble coral]

Yes

So bad

[little berry]

The one that says - trait cannot be removed (that is a positive effect )

Not a trait

[misty elm]

So you just finished the dungeon, crafted him, fed him to 130 in 13 minutes?

[little berry]

Lol

[echo sundial]

Huh?

Haven’t fed him or crafted yet just you go vs him on node 20s

[tame beacon]

That’s the test battle Vitako lol

[misty elm]

I was talking to BignSmiley

Ohhh, sorrryyyy 😄

[little berry]

Yes that's the test battle

[echo sundial]

😂 sorry

[misty elm]

Maaan, still sleepy 😄

[little berry]

😂

[misty elm]

still laughing at his description, though 😂

[little berry]

Yes that description is a FAIL 😂

[cold sequoia]

XD what happened to it countering thalassa in the fake battle

hmmmmmmm

[echo sundial]

Not enuf 😦

[pine cosmos]

SP won't release a Thalassa counter for a while yet. Too many people would have a hissy fit if their €500 monster was out ranked.

[icy bluff]

how many orbs do u have

that must cost alot

[lapis current]

so is it worth getting?

[noble coral]

Yes

[lapis current]

any idea if learnean and pixelion is good enoug

haha

[kind crane]

Learnean ain’t bad

Pix is meh

I use learnean still

[lapis current]

my curent team is probs gonna be learnean pixelion and teashire haha

gonna be tough

[kind crane]

Try rank teashire up

Probs be fine tho

[lapis current]

only r1

no more cells haha

learnean also..

i just bought him

probs gonna spend like 100 elementium on this guy

[brittle hemlock]

Looks like Trait Disabl Immunity to me

[echo sundial]

It isn’t

[brittle hemlock]

"Cannot have Trait Removed",the only way to remove trait is Disabling it

so cannot have trait disabled

🤷

[little berry]

Yes that's part of his skill group 4

[hasty dock]

:GWczeWhat:

Seriously ??!!!

[misty elm]

Wow

[crystal vigil]

someone has never heard of rune guardian

[misty elm]

Or other monsters in a team ...

[crystal vigil]

like, according to that guy, the only WM who can deny thalassa is sherezar

and that apparently makes her the worst monster in the game

🤔

[hasty dock]

At level 100, Thalassa has SOME damaging moves, and with Freeze Hater and Drowned, she can pretty much own him even 1 v 1

[little berry]

That dude above just can't be serious now eh...🤔

[hasty dock]

I'm not even going into what happens when she's ranked up 😂

[crystal vigil]

yeah

mega freeze forever

2% by 2%

[little berry]

Yeah let's just ignore that part

[crystal vigil]

the enemy dies

[hasty dock]

Doesn't need to just get the 2% dmg from freeze 😉

[misty elm]

That's the problem, because recently frozem means nothing to Thally

[hasty dock]

If I remember correctly, she has 30-40 point dmg moves at 100

[crystal vigil]

i'm talking about the usual level 130 set

[hasty dock]

With a 200% dmg buff, I think its justifiable cause to worry

At 130, whatever poor guy stands in her way will bite the dust 😂

Unless u have atleast 2 Faradays to oppose her...

And pray that Megafreeze misses the one which doesn't get his trait disabled...

[misty elm]

That Faraday alone can't oneshot her because of relics

[tall cedar]

At least for now, you can mess with thalassa

Till ai improves

And you only need necro😉 @hasty dock

[hasty dock]

🤔

[tall cedar]

My attack log is full of slayed thalassas

[hasty dock]

All my past attempts at that had my Necro penned up for the kill...

Besides, u have an Elvira to weather the initial assault @tall cedar 😅

I don't...

[tall cedar]

😎

Necro helps for the most part😅

[hasty dock]

My defence will get squashed bad if I take him off from there

Even if I lose 6-7 attacks per day, I hardly lose any trophies because of that

[tall cedar]

Thalassa always uses abyss bottom on elvira, so necro and Charmless dodge it. Then Charmless does the rest thing

[hasty dock]

I just lost 3 attacks in a row, and rn I checked in to find I have a net gain of 6 trophies 😂

[misty elm]

Then Zyla works too, right?

[hasty dock]

Should work the same, yes

Heck, even Voltaik will do if u can TT to him with Necro...

[mighty bough]

Everyone has orb rush hour? I don’t have it currently, updated app and still not working

[brittle hemlock]

@mighty bough not allorb discounts are worldwide.some are region exclusive

[mighty bough]

Oh, I didn’t know that. So the rush hour times vary?

[brittle hemlock]

Yes,not all are worldwide. Theres usually at least one daily and each of them always last two hours, but they aren't always worldwide.

[unreal flume]

Well yeah, and thats when i tried to explain to random guy how Sherezar is not one of the worst WM's at 100 and worse than Thalassa
But you can't, look what people are commenting lol

[pine cosmos]

I'm gonna get Sherezar @100 but going for 105 Necro. Sherezar will be ranked eventually but right now I just want someone to help me beat Squid B#*%h

A single X rune reward will do, got a few 8s and 9s in storage

[lone shale]

Anyone know the skills that sherezar will have at lvl 100

[brittle hemlock]

http://monster-wiki.com/monster/Warmaster_Sherezar
@lone shale

[little berry]

Does Sherezar's remove all effects remove them from allies as well?

[cinder geyser]

Yes

[ornate oak]

Removes all effects.

[echo sundial]

But

He only gives CDA protection which isn’t too useful

[ornate oak]

He gives double precision. You basically don’t miss.

It’s a pretty powerful area trait. I was first to assume that the Light WM (prior to her release) would have area precision boost and deemed that to be pretty op, but obviously that wasn’t the case, but a wm did finally get it. We will see how it plays out.

[kind crane]

Get you with Shezza hatched and fighting @ornate oak

[brittle hemlock]

True Vision isnt usful?! 🤣

[kind crane]

No need to revenge but I’ll allow it 😂

[ornate oak]

😂

I had already revenged you earlier Luke lol

[kind crane]

That’s it, imma revenge back

Balls to it

All I feel is regret

[brittle hemlock]

if I could 😓 then :hypersweat: i would

[mortal bay]

I met get him at r0 just to play around with the trait

Might*

[worthy scroll]

So how is a team of musu, vapwhirl and mudflow rank5 in order to beat Thalassa's dungeon last floor 🤣

[kind crane]

Is Thalassa usable at 105? Or would it be too slow?

That’s what I did Yami. Free lvl X rune with it 🤷🏻‍♂️

[worthy scroll]

Think it will be rather slow, 3703 speed at 105, still faster than a 110 Timmy

[kind crane]

Can’t be that slow

I’ll be sticking 3 Xs so hoping it balances it out

[worthy scroll]

Base speed yes, but others will also have 3 X speed also

Well, we need her rank 5 anyway to get her best attacks

Rank 4 really

[kind crane]

Yeah but I ain’t getting it to that all at once

[worthy scroll]

Yeah me neither

[kind crane]

Just seeing when it’s worth runing

I never bothered with Kihaku so only have 115 Thetys

[worthy scroll]

I don't think I'll be using her on pvp if she is not 120

[kind crane]

Can’t be any worse than that 😂

[worthy scroll]

I have a rank 0 thetys

Lol

See my list, those are the only rank 5 I have on water

[kind crane]

I’ll run her pvp maybe at 110 with Elvira.

Rank 4 gets you all skills tho?

[worthy scroll]

Remntar Elvira Thalassa may work

Yeah but you need rank5 monsters to get rank 4 and 5 wm cells

[kind crane]

Ledo and nautilus would be my advice to you

[worthy scroll]

Nautilus is rank 4, but need him rank 5 to enter last floor

I can start breeding ledo yea

Think I'll do that

[kind crane]

Both are nifty. If you’ve got ten shield or hiroims works well for ledo

[worthy scroll]

Yup, I got a couple of tenacity I can use

[kind crane]

Musu, ledo, nautilus will smash it

You’ve got the longevity from shield. Stick a health on musu maybe. Ledo and nautilus do some decent damage as welll

[worthy scroll]

Cool, will definitely try that

I have 2 nautilus and 3 ledo on storage

[kind crane]

Do ya know when her dungeon is next on?

[worthy scroll]

I don't recall the rotation

I think is soon, don't recall seeing her recently

[kind crane]

Ledo is breedable I believe. Nautilus loads will have cells due to it being in me loads

Mw

[worthy scroll]

Yup

[mortal bay]

Apparently

Starting 2019

[worthy scroll]

And with metal or water elemental cells I think I can complete nautilus

[mortal bay]

All dungeons will be out every month

[kind crane]

I saw that

Confused me a bit

[worthy scroll]

Yeah, I saw the picture, I think is all available once a month during X time

[kind crane]

Yeah seems to be

Reckon they’ll stop wm dungeons after 2019?

I don’t see the point of doing that announcement and pushing for it unless it’s time limited

[worthy scroll]

Not sure, I think they will have the dungeons for about 3 or 4 days per wm a month

Maybe 7 days if they put 2, but 9 being odd they will have to either put one wm alone or repeat one

So maybe 3 and a half days each

That will make it 28~30 days rotations

[kind crane]

Unless they do all 9 at once for a week

I’m pretty sure they said tbh with what Yami mentioned about. But I didn’t read it

[worthy scroll]

Leaked info is there, it doesn't have anything specific about how it would be rather than "once a month" and "every month"

If they are available every month that's ok

Gives us time to gather some orbs anyway

[kind crane]

Yeah indeed

[noble coral]

Which are group 3 skils of magic wm?

[polar valve]

you call yourself a magic wm fan but dont even know his skills...

[noble coral]

Ty

Yes am a fan of it

I dont know because people keep changing skills which is annoyi g

[polar valve]

lol

its okay

I was just making fun

[noble coral]

Great dispell supposted to be group 4 but is 3

[brittle hemlock]

then its supposed to be group three and not group four.

🤔

[hasty dock]

@noble coral where did u get that info? Great Dispell's always been in Group 3 skills list

[little berry]

Does he actually protect trait or not?

The magic WM^

No, unless you roll that buff with the Protective Spell or Random Spellbook.

[polar valve]

yup

[hasty dock]

He can actually prevent buffs from being stripped away

Not sure if it stops Trait disable

[brittle hemlock]

well, it protects the trait..

so it should be anti-TD

[polar valve]

its called trait protection for a reason...

[hasty dock]

Where's the bit about "trait protection"? 🤔

[polar valve]

its a new positive effect

[hasty dock]

If I remember the test battle correctly, its similar to Neobuki's trait, but as a status caster

[polar valve]

you- not getting it

[little berry]

His status caster protects against Cooldowns' Activation.

[noble coral]

@hasty dock i saw at fandom wikia

[polar valve]

we arent talking about that tho

[hasty dock]

His normal status caster, yes

[little berry]

That came from the Random Spellbook, yeah.

[hasty dock]

Oh, that random buff

[noble coral]

Lol that was my photo xD

[little berry]

It's in the pool of his random buffs, among other nice things.

[hasty dock]

I thought we were talking about the "block positive effects removal" sc that comes free with it... 😅

But still, its random... 🤔

And can't be relied upon too much

[polar valve]

trueth

[hasty dock]

They could've given him a TT skill at 100 though...

Would've been really useful then

[little berry]

He does protect trait

[brittle hemlock]

maybe CDA Protection was scrapped.

[little berry]

I hope

I can't get him anyways

my team can't beat 76% on floor 2

magic is my weakest element

[mortal bay]

All you have to do is do the test battle

....

See

[brittle hemlock]

🤔 very inconsistent...

[little berry]

🤔

i wasted £50 on orbs and didn't even get the wm

lol

[mortal bay]

?

How did you manage to do that

[brittle hemlock]

couldnt beat node 76%

[mortal bay]

You still have 7 days

Equip relics

Turn on rune guardian

[gray sedge]

Rank worker hulk up and put x runes on him

[tame beacon]

He does NOT protect trait. He protects cooldowns. That text is wrong. Trust the monstagram/actual trait over the text

[mortal bay]

Trust the damn gameplay, we have test battles for a reason 😂

[dreamy thorn]

Ok.... So I'm doing the heroic dungeon. I use Crissandre. Curse cleaner doesn't work,Ymur curse works... Why?

[misty elm]

I wonder, will other monsters that can apply positive effects have Sherezar's pool of effects too? I mean Sherezar's pool is limited, but only to the best effects.

At least according to the wiki

Your call

[gray sedge]

Sherezar denies thalassa

[misty elm]

Yes and no

[strong bison]

Hmm

Shezers blessing

But thassala

[misty elm]

Thally will come back

[strong bison]

So shezer

[misty elm]

(everybody nicknames Sherezar, I'll nickname Thalassa 😄 )

[strong bison]

Blessing is great+ shezer is great

On 110

[misty elm]

Shizzle is good, yes

[strong bison]

Thassala great on 105

[misty elm]

Wish you luck 😉

[gray sedge]

Cd activated on thalassa and she’s toast

[misty elm]

trust me, she's not 😄

All she needs is an Ultimate attack (and CDA loves to cause it)

I know it firsthand with my Timerion

In fact i got two Ults in a row from her in a battle after CDA

[strong bison]

Zizoo first get 110 shezer and then 105 thassala

[misty elm]

@little berry thanks 😄

Also it's Vitako, not Vikato 😉

😃

but excuse me, gonna watch South Park

[native prairie]

Sherezar is lowkey hot in the dad way

[patent sphinx]

Did anyone manage to run sherezar vs frostilka to see how his skills work vs this trait?

[cinder geyser]

Dodge area trait miss all the area effects and the cda

And damage

But I don't know about area remove positive effects 🤔

Does it miss?

[mortal bay]

Yes

That's the whole point of dodge area

[patent sphinx]

Did you test it? @mortal bay

[mortal bay]

I don't need to

But you're welcome to confirm it

It's a regular trait right ? Not a status caster ?

[patent sphinx]

Status caster

Shademoon is not released yet

[mortal bay]

That might be different then

[patent sphinx]

And I don’t want to gem my way to 120 just to figure out if I should get sherezar or leave him at low rank for ts and trait

[mortal bay]

If you don't have Thalassa then save for her

Otherwise Sherezar is a good option

[patent sphinx]

I want to retire Xiron, she is blind and misses all the time even on first turn

I need to know now if I can replace her with sherezar or he’s just a baby of Xiron and dungeon master which is already hard countered by shademoon on release

[mortal bay]

Sherezar has a single remove positive effects right?

You'll just have to run that

[little berry]

No

Only aoe

[crystal vigil]

he has it in skills group 1

[little berry]

Oh ryt

[patent sphinx]

It doesn’t have extra turn so no

Even if you run it you need second denier then

[noble coral]

It have lol

[mortal bay]

Well, you'll still be able to deny the other 2 monsters

Just not Shademoon

[patent sphinx]

And then shademoon one shots you

With spirit hater

[mortal bay]

Uriel essence

[little berry]

Use with Tijen

[patent sphinx]

No it doesn’t have extra turn

[noble coral]

Nah Sherezar still best he can rezistance his attacks

[patent sphinx]

Yes I will run his with Uriel’s essence only, I have no idea why so thinks he needs stamina more than extra life lol

[misty elm]

Wish I have the essence

[noble coral]

Dodge area this is problem lol

[mortal bay]

Remember, the relic come with him. But they're not made for him

Relics*

[patent sphinx]

What are you talking about, which attacks he can resist @noble coral

[mortal bay]

Ignore him

All he does is talk nonsense

[patent sphinx]

Dodge area is the problem, yes, and that’s what I’m trying to figure out

[noble coral]

Dodge area this is problem lol

If you cant disable trait on shademoon you'll never win

[mortal bay]

It's a status caster

[noble coral]

Its not status caster

Its trait inside

Its like frosilka

[little berry]

No they changed it

[patent sphinx]

Just check in game description. You are wrong.

[noble coral]

Ok

[mortal bay]

SC: dodge area

SC = Status Caster

[patent sphinx]

Ok so no one knows if sherezar can clear shademoon’s status caster yet

[noble coral]

Thats nice, it would be kaos in battle

[mortal bay]

Honestly tiger

[crystal vigil]

i think he only can with his skills group one skill

[mortal bay]

I think Sherezar aoe remove effects will remove Shademoons status caster

[noble coral]

Great dispell is OPP skill

Idc about my team just need to removes enemies effect

[patent sphinx]

Did anyone manage to run him vs frostilka and see how his random spellbook work? Some people say that this skill and great dispel can bypass area dodge because how they are coded

But there is no confirmation about that so far

[mortal bay]

Dodge area is just a weaker version of evasion, and evasion gets removed

[noble coral]

Fandom wikia said Great dispell is on grp 4 skill, but wiki said is on grpup 3

Dunno

[mortal bay]

Tiger

His sg4 skill?

[patent sphinx]

https://forums-static.socialpointgames.com/prod/94b10dce-7470-45b4-bdff-268d987ef852.png

Yes

[mortal bay]

It will take the low 20 damage

But not THE effects

The*

[little berry]

Rip Ruby lol

[mortal bay]

Lol what's a ruby ?

Trash monster

[little berry]

Hardest Knockout in the history of ML

[crystal vigil]

what about

timerion knocking out

almost every denier

[patent sphinx]

Ruby is semi dead anyway heh. I really want to replace her, but idk if I should get this guy to 130 or not, I really want to know how he’s gonna work vs dodge area but there is no way to know that for sure before testing it considering how sp codes stuff and writes descriptions

[little berry]

I'm pretty sure Sherezar's great dispell won't affect shademoon

[patent sphinx]

That’s what logic tells me

[mortal bay]

It affects evasion though

[patent sphinx]

But still can’t be 100% sure because you know it’s SP...

[crystal vigil]

how is it affecting evasion related

[mortal bay]

Dodge area is a weaker evasion

[little berry]

It will 100% dodge all area effects.

[crystal vigil]

then again

[patent sphinx]

It should dodge all area effects.

[crystal vigil]

the game might not consider "remove positive effects" an effect

[patent sphinx]

How it's gonna work in reality vs great dispel? No idea.

[mortal bay]

Evasion should dodge all effects in general

But it can still be removed

[unreal flume]

nicu pfp Yami

[mortal bay]

:GWqlabsSpyEyes:

[little berry]

Its still an area skill. All area skills and area effects will be dodged

[unreal flume]

😂

[patent sphinx]

It should be dodged but I have no idea how it's coded in reality

It's SP after all

[little berry]

For eg: SBG's aoe remove positive is a single target attack. But it won't remove any effect from Shademoon. But it will cause damage

[patent sphinx]

Did you test it vs frostilka?

Oh nvm got you

My question is not about SBG but sherezar in particular

[mortal bay]

I'll be back in a few days with a nice and juicy "I told you so"

[little berry]

If Shademoon has Evasion, then SBG will neither do DAMAGE nor Remove Evasion

Sherezar's skill isn't Amy different.

Its an area skill

It wont affect shademoon

[patent sphinx]

No offence, I know how it should be in theory. But still, SP and inconsistencies - name more iconic duo

That's why I was asking if anyone actually tested that

With sherezar

I guess I'll come back in a couple of days then

Dungeon is live almost for a week anyway

[little berry]

There's no guess work. Its simple logic

Its like being sure that artifacts can't be burned

[crystal vigil]

it's like being sure that evasion can't be removed

[mortal bay]

I can't wait to prove you wrong Psi

[crystal vigil]

though there was a time when you could burn artifacts with battle items for some reason

[little berry]

Evasion is different. Evasion still gets attacked by oblation staff.

[mortal bay]

SP have stated that's unintentional

[little berry]

Think of it like this. What if u 'miss' ur 'remove evasion skill'? Like 0% accuracy
That's what dodge area is similar to

[mortal bay]

It's not though

The attacker isn't missing

The defender is dodging

That's the difference

[little berry]

Same thing there

Basically the attack is missed

[mortal bay]

There's a difference between missing and the target dodging

[little berry]

What's the difference

[mortal bay]

I can't make it any more obvious

[little berry]

If the target dodges, its the same thing as the attacker missing

[mortal bay]

It's not

[little berry]

Eh

[mortal bay]

If I throw something at you

And you move out the way

I didn't miss

You dodged it

[crystal vigil]

if the attacker misses relic doesn't activate
if the target dodges relic activates

right?

[little berry]

You did miss lol

[mortal bay]

Because had you not moved

I would have got you

[little berry]

But I did move

[mortal bay]

And thus you dodged it

[little berry]

I dodged and so you missed it lol

[mortal bay]

Incorrect

[little berry]

?

Your objective is to hit an object. As long as you don't hit it, its a miss.
Its simple

[pine cosmos]

I feel like I have accidentally dropped into Global

[patent sphinx]

So you just moved to some kind of semi-philosophical discussion to prove a point

We can't be sure before someone actually can test it

[brittle hemlock]

i can prove i threw a cushion at my younger brother last week and the first time he dodged out of the way. second time i just missed and he didnt move

[modern gust]

So what?

[little berry]

So you missed 2 out of 2 tries🙂

[brittle hemlock]

no, i didnt.

my first shot was on target.

[noble coral]

Even with a daze trait vision not work well ...

[little berry]

😂

[brittle hemlock]

True Vision can only really be nullified with Blind or total Blind, or trait Disable.

Blind means True Vision doesn't work and the monster has 100% accuracy. total blind nullifies accuracy altogether. Trait disable just removes the effect.

[noble coral]

Precision, accuracy are same ..

50% precission 50% accuracy this doesnt matter they work together

[brittle hemlock]

do remember True Vision isnt precision

it's Precision x2

It doubles the precision, so x2, not x1.5

[little berry]

@mortal bay Dodge Area Effect will evade a buff cleanse; you can test it; roll it in the test battle using Protective Spell/Random Spellbook and then use the Great Dispell. All buffs/debuffs will perish except for the ones the monster with DA possesses. He/she will keep the positive effects.

[mortal bay]

That's not the same effect

[little berry]

Welp guess I'm lost now 😂

[mortal bay]

It's not the DA that is protecting it

The skill also applies positive status effect protection

[little berry]

Ah yes. But well, when I gave it a go, I'm a 100% sure the DA came from the Random Spellbook and that does not provide the buff protection

I mean it kinda makes sense; with evasion, you still get hit, you simply receive 0 damage and effects don't stick, as if resisted by a bulwark or something in those lines. With DA, it always just flat out says "miss".

[cold sequoia]

@mortal bay In that logic, Igneica

and barbal's trait disable should work on Froslika

But it doesn't

so I highly double doubt great dispell will clear the effect

[nocturne crater]

I think @mortal bay is right.

Great Dispel is structured as a single target attack, that removes all effects from all monsters (enemies and allies)

It is not described as an AoE (either target or effect), so Dodge Area should be meaningless and be removed.

[tall cedar]

^

[nocturne crater]

But, as usual, we shall see, in good time. Personally, strip all effects in play seems pretty absolute.

[cold sequoia]

sherry's dungeon was fairly easy

[fickle acorn]

Ikr.

[nocturne crater]

So there you have it. Great Dispel removes Dodge Area.

@mortal bay @little berry

[icy bluff]

How much orbs do you need to get a normal warmaster and forna rank 5

[little berry]

😶

I dun understand this logic

[crystal vigil]

The same logic that makes remove positive effects remove evasion

Because remove positive effects is apparently not an effect

So it bypasses dodge area just like it bypasses evasion

[nocturne crater]

Correct IMO. Good to know b4 running 100 laps for Shademoon, though, yes?

[little berry]

Yes

[kind crane]

I’m not really sure what the conclusion is, I’m confused

Does shademoon have dodge area? So this greatly counters it, so no point doing it to r5?

[nocturne crater]

Still a good monster.

But I'll be damned b4 enduring the race tedium for it, so.

[kind crane]

I thought it was a trait and not a pos effect. Haven’t really looked tbh

[nocturne crater]

It is aStatus Cast.

[kind crane]

Ohh

[nocturne crater]

So, an effect created by a trait, not a trait. Like Elvira's Evasion, but weaker

[kind crane]

Yeah indeed

Saves me a few pennies so can’t complain too much

[little berry]

Contrived, does aoe remove positive effect remove dodge area?

[nocturne crater]

Probably

I will test

[little berry]

Ok

Going by the logic of evasion, it should

[kind crane]

So does shademoon not have a trait?

[little berry]

His trait us immune to burn & ignite

[kind crane]

Why does a standard monster have a status caster?

[little berry]

Its the new game mechanic

[kind crane]

So is dodge area just for him or for entire team?

[little berry]

Just for him

[kind crane]

Makes more sense I guess

[mortal bay]

-sneezes- I told you so

Thanks for clearing that one up for us @nocturne crater

[kind crane]

This guy

[mortal bay]

😂

[kind crane]

I still regret getting Shezza

But alas

[tall cedar]

:GWlulurdTomStare:

[kind crane]

Could’ve got Thalassa to 110 🙄

[little berry]

You're lucky u went for Sherezar

[kind crane]

Am I tho?

I’m content wallowing in self pity atm. Wonder if sp will launch me a refund 😂

[little berry]

Yes u are

U got the best wm

[kind crane]

Another Shezza fanatic ey

[mortal bay]

:GWqlabsYaoLUL:

[tall cedar]

Sherezar is really annoying in PvP. Got beaten down twice now

[kind crane]

What rank?

[tall cedar]

Fought 2 130s

[kind crane]

Yeah maxed it’s nifty

It’s last skill is sweet

[tall cedar]

Ofc, at 5.9k you get to see only 130 nemesis and wm😂

[kind crane]

I’m in a similar boat mate

5917, semi given up on L3. Can’t be bothered 😂

[little berry]

In WM test battle, burotgor got dodge area from sherezar.
Samael did pain scourge but that didn't remove it from burotgor
(Burotgor didn't have positive effect protection)
How does that work?

According to the evasion logic, pain scourge should remove dodge area

[faint beacon]

Wait

What

[echo sundial]

Do I get Remntar and Elvira or Shezer R2

2 Options that wasn’t in there

If I get Elvira that’s R1 Shez

Which isn’t worth it at all

[faint beacon]

He give him immune to remove positive effect 🤔

[tacit fractal]

I believe that I do not have an opinion on the Warlord, the lack of control and control at level 100, SP must be compatible with the idea of ​​changing the curse group defect that has Level 2 by a control group maybe a group of knockout or 1 random control effect would be fine the only thing that has 100 control is an individual for the cooldown and nothing but by your side to a sea. (control) that they put him I think some control group 100 likes a lot because I saw the attacks from 1-100 the only thing that can control the relicdowns individal that is useless is like a montauk creature has an attack Likewise and a group of knockouts that is always used by the knockout group, the individual is used, not because it seldom hits and other things can not be used for you. great not to copy montauk creature please consider it and support me with an answer to see it

psdt: do something with a monster that can not control please

[little berry]

Do you think we should continue to buy Orbs after 9 WM? Will they be used for something else or should I ask SP to pay back me?

[mortal bay]

I think they'll be used to buy the Warmaster pets

[little berry]

Ok, ty

[echo sundial]

Or just use them to rank up your current WMs

[strong bison]

Get r2shezer

[mortal bay]

Yazhog is talking about after she has all of them at 130

[kind crane]

Hahaha

First world problems

[strong bison]

😭

[echo sundial]

😭

You could just donate me some orbs

[little berry]

Sorry we can not donate 😅😂

Wow. I just lost a big portion of my interest in Shademoon.

[cold sequoia]

well Seems like I got the last laugh

sherry is pretty good

[little berry]

Shademoon is not a Warmaster, it's the monster of the next Team Race 😆

[cold sequoia]

Yea but people found him to be potential counter for sherry

sadly thalassa remains to be

[little berry]

Sorry 😅 Who is Sherry?

[cold sequoia]

Sherezar

[little berry]

Oh ok

It's not just the hit to the trait (which atm is awful; behind that status caster, there's an immunity to 2 torture effects he won't even encounter too often) Vanishing Threat may get hurt too. If his DA isn't a permanent trait, then his very own element will just crush him with ease, and Sherezar will giggle while doing it. Buuut hey. Nothing's set in stone yet, right..?

[cold sequoia]

I mean he is in game

so we have all do have a rough idea about him

[noble coral]

We found all of them

😆

[faint beacon]

🤔

[cold sequoia]

Gorthak is suppose to be in the center

I mean he is the leader of the warmasters

[little berry]

he was:GWqlabsSweats:

[cold sequoia]

He might not be the strongest but he sure is the leader

[little berry]

leader of the bottom right corner xD

[cold sequoia]

Gortak is underrated

#MakeGortakGreatAgain

[noble coral]

Lol

Barbael need a status caster ....

[cold sequoia]

team haste

[little berry]

That wallpaper looks so awesome

[noble coral]

now since there are all the warmasters here, SP could possibly make videos of how they came to this position as well as killing all titans

[little berry]

too much to work on every wm

we want updates :))

[echo sundial]

Tbf

I’d prefer lore over an update

Tho that’s just me

[cold sequoia]

Lore is the best

SP needs to start a series on ML based on lores

they will gain more audience

and more entertainment for us

[pine cosmos]

Need to release more Titans now. I know people weren't happy with the Titan invasions as they were but maybe now that all the WM are out it's time to start a revised Titan event ( maybe shorter with a few tweaks to the triggering and scoring)

[brittle hemlock]

surely that should go elsewhere, titans arent exactly related to WM

[pine cosmos]

Hmm.. Maybe not event-wise but from a lore perspective they're inextricably linked.

[frozen crane]

yeah but this channel is explicitly for warmasters only

[pine cosmos]

OK, apologies

[noble coral]

This team is magnificent

[cinder geyser]

Sadly it's not mine

It only needs thalassa instead of barbael

[noble coral]

Lol

[brittle hemlock]

three deniers? nah.

[noble coral]

If thalassa is there too than Game is dead

[cinder geyser]

Sherezar and thalassa can work with ts too

[brittle hemlock]

laughs in Gortak, Neobuki and Gelotron

[little berry]

what?! already r5 sherezar

[noble coral]

Lol

[brittle hemlock]

foul language.

rule 3 @little berry

[little berry]

going to cry in a corner

[noble coral]

I really would like trait protection at the start of the battle

Best skill is Great dispel or Wizards negation?

Both are nice btw

[little berry]

I should have ranked Elvira/Remntar instead of getting Magic lol. Even with X rune he wasn't worth it.

But I'm inpatient so...

[noble coral]

😂😂😂

[little berry]

I mean, at least give him a better gold revenue SP. It's 144 GPM I think. 😂

[little berry]

New wm will not open with cda. Don't waste your money

[timid hornet]

@little berry please edit your msg . . . No abbreviated swearing allowed

[little berry]

ma bad sorey

[timid hornet]

Thank you

[noble coral]

Master's Scroll or Aprentice's Scroll which one is good?

[little berry]

Masters scroll

[cold sequoia]

Sherezar is best if it goes right after thalassa

so fulll ts or 2 ts I would say

[stoic path]

Which is better: get elvira rank 2 or sherezar rank 1 + 2xX runes?

[agile summit]

do u need elvira R2

i feel like the main thing about her is her trait

[little berry]

Warmaster Aura is nice...

[kind crane]

I’d go for Shezza R0

Then save ya orbs again

[stoic path]

Thanks

[echo sundial]

Shezer is full ts until r2 then it’s either full ts or speed

[patent sphinx]

Did anyone test how sherezar interacts with 50% status effects?

[misty elm]

The player above you got him 😃

[ornate oak]

Siberian, I feel like it works as if it were 100%. I need to test it again.

[misty elm]

It literally doubles accuracy, so it should affect status effects too

[polar valve]

got stuck at node 14 in the second floor

enemy is too slow for my mons to hit, unless I unrune them all

[echo sundial]

Shannaras BG has remove pos

So I just abused that

[polar valve]

I dont even have SBG

[echo sundial]

He’s only 1100 war coins

So he’s worth it

[polar valve]

hmmm

by the time I get him and rank him up, the dungeons be gone

[echo sundial]

And at Christmas they usually make every monster available

[polar valve]

need more ideas on this one

enemy has a 0 cd skill otherwise Dungeon Master would slay this

[echo sundial]

What monsters are you using

Cuz I had it easy. I just used my Ruby SBG and Goldfield for Stam and heals

[pine cosmos]

How does True Vision interact with Daze or Blind? I'm assuming it overrides them?

[brittle hemlock]

no, it still works.

If a general accuracy is set to 1, true vision doubles it, but daze removes 25% (or multiplies by 0.75), and blind removes 50% (or multiplies by 0.5)

[pine cosmos]

That's what I mean, I'll still hit (mostly) despite being blind or dazed

[feral mural]

Sherezar r1 or Necromancer r1?

[elder pelican]

Sherezar will give you a level 10 rune

[wind summit]

Sorry tp change the subject but, what do you guys think about warmaster Zahra? Is she worth getting?

[brittle hemlock]

i wouldnt.

[little berry]

I'm only going for Zahra for the nature cells to rank Charmless

Zahra is worst warmaster imo

[little berry]

I regret wasting my orbs on Sherezar.

She doesn't even get rid of blind or daze.

[polar valve]

put full strength on rabooka..

lost some gems on unequiping the runes

[lapis current]

why cant she get rid of blind or daze

i tot she clears all efffects

[wind summit]

What warmaster would you guys get instead?

[native prairie]

Ariana Grande is the best warmaster

[crystal vigil]

elvira first

[little berry]

Elvira or Remntar if they're level 100.

[cinder geyser]

Thalassa if 120+

[little berry]

I wasted my orbs on Sherezar

I just wanted the rune and then they come up 6 for £33

[brittle hemlock]

thats why you don't be hasty

[patent sphinx]

Who do you think is the best attacker out of all wm when ranked?

[brittle hemlock]

attacker?

probably Gortak.

[misty elm]

Gortak and Babari

Remntar and Elvira hits hard too

[lapis current]

sherezar is 3 ts?

[misty elm]

At 100 he's better with that

[echo sundial]

Shezer is 3 ts until r2 then you can keep 3 ts or use 3 speed

[lapis current]

dont u want him to be fast doe

so he can lets say

dispel elviras evasion\

[pine cosmos]

Gortak hits like a train but some of his best moves including his Ultimate are Special Element so Remntar causes him a lot of problems.

[ionic tinsel]

Ohh necro that’s nice

[woeful horizon]

It's a Thanos egg.

[noble coral]

Lol 😂

[ornate oak]

Once again, the Magic Warmaster is a he.

[kind crane]

Anyone running it at 100?

[noble coral]

Yes

He is a he

[little berry]

Its a she

Ehm

[noble coral]

Nah bro its a he

You dont see the muscles 😂🤣

[little berry]

No way lol

[crystal vigil]

"himself" "his" "he" "his"

[little berry]

Did u see the dungeon pic

[crystal vigil]

Can you read

Why would they mention him as a male 4 times in the description

If he's not male

[little berry]

Typo

[crystal vigil]

Also a mask doesn't make a monster female

[little berry]

I've already named mine as Cleopatra

[ionic tinsel]

@noble coral are you saying females can’t have muscles?

[misty elm]

Oh for ... he's a bearded guy 😄

You know that guys with ponytails are a thing, right?

[ornate oak]

(Most people don’t know that, apparently.)