#monster-discussion

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cold sequoia
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It is

noble coral
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Wait 3500 orbs need for rank 1 warmaster?

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4600 orbs need to get a warmaster + rank 1

tall cedar
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4700 orbs for rank 1 warmaster

unreal flume
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^

clear wind
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Hi all. Hope everyone is doing awesomely. Random question.
We often come across teams in wars that have, let's say, won 200 wars, but don't have a war log.
It's quite common.
I don't understand how this occurs. Any thoughts?

barren arch
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Hi Timmy. I will reply here so that you see it, but please note the channel you are asking it in is Warmasters.

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If you speak with your Lead, they have the power to ‘hide’ war log within your team.

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That is what a few teams have chosen to do. So that is why you can’t see them. 😃👍🏻

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@clear wind

clear wind
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Thank you Helen. Sorry, thought I was in general discussion. My bad. Apologies.
I am lead of our team. I just didn't know about that secret. Now I do. Thanks a bunch 👌

barren arch
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You are so welcome. No worries. 😃

stark schooner
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Hi

timid hornet
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Hi 😃

stoic path
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Will new warmaster have 100% accuracy for noves with 50% chance?

little berry
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I should hope not.

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The whole "surpassing on the hardenings" thing is a bit much already imo. I believe it should weaken them by cutting their effect in half, not outright negating them.

mortal bay
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True Vision - Double the accuracy of skill effects (example - Xiron's skill control dice will have a 100% chance to apply a random negative effect) and bypasses accuracy reducing traits (examples - tough, hardened, orc, bulwark etc)

little berry
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Oh dear this thing can end up being pretty bad. Not on Sherezar alone, but with some monsters...

gray sedge
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Yamis right it automatically makes all skills 100% regardless of opponents trait

little berry
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so uh

echo sundial
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Kihaku is back

little berry
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westclaw ulti can instantly kill any enemy

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kihaku is like pretty good now

echo sundial
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Same with ourus etc they should change it tho

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So insta kills aren’t affected

little berry
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ourous cant

echo sundial
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Wrong person mayb

little berry
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because the move itself is 50% acc

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i think u think of cryton

echo sundial
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Yeah

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I’m gonna be running Kihaku Shezer ??? On attack when he comes out

little berry
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wait nvm

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westclaw already can kill anything

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rof

echo sundial
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Undertaker probs

little berry
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@stoic path It will still be 50%.

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The actual 50% moves has a 90% chance of hitting, and with the magic warmaster that chance will be increased to 100%, but the attack itself will still have a 50% of applying the effect.

echo sundial
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^ he’s wrong

little berry
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🤷 I'm not.

echo sundial
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Salty Remntar main doesn’t want anything stronger then his sugar daddy

little berry
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LOL.

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He's my favourite but Thalassa is still better.

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no the effect

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will be 100%

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not the move

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i think thats what yami said

mortal bay
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It might be both, but as for my current understand it will be the effect

noble coral
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All skills will be always hit lol

echo sundial
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Why do people like Remntar?

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I thought his status caster was aoe skill mirror for some stupid reason

lusty shell
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huh

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that is his status caster

echo sundial
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Oof yeah it is

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Ok he’s good again ahaha

lusty shell
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lol it's also 100% special protection

echo sundial
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😂👌🏻

little berry
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Hes great on defense

strong bison
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He is so much fun to use

noble coral
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I cant wait to be Sunday lol

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Its Monday now but I barely wait for the Sunday

little berry
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Why

peak flower
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Expecting sherezar to be released perhaps?

cinder geyser
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@noble coral can i post here why you're excited

echo sundial
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@cinder geyser can’t post leaks here we’ve all seen them tho

cinder geyser
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It's not a leak

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Nvm
the fun part have been ruined...

echo sundial
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?

wide python
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I have absolutely no idea so please enlighten us @cinder geyser

cinder geyser
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Was going to post something but it's not funny anymore so nvm

ionic tinsel
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Yes it is

noble coral
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What you should tell me @cinder geyser ?! 🤔

little berry
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What's on Sunday?

tame beacon
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Christmas Eve Eve

little berry
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Oh

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🤔

noble coral
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Lol

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On Sunday Warmaster Sherezar will be added

kind crane
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Is that confirmed or assumption?

mortal bay
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An educated assumption

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Although I'm reluctant to agree as of yet

kind crane
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Is that because you guessed Saturday and don’t want to be wrong?

mortal bay
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No I'm not sure if it will come out before Christmas

kind crane
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They’d be better holding off till start of jan

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Everyone’s been payed after xmas. More spending on magic wm

mortal bay
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Also the dungeons rotate every Saturday

tame beacon
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I wonder what part of the world you have to be in for it to come out Sunday? 🤔

mortal bay
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The rotations don't change, so Smiley is wrong

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Although he may not be so far off

kind crane
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Asia

mortal bay
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Sherezar will be released on either the 22nd or 29th

little berry
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I tend to agree with yami

kind crane
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I know it’s bad, but if it don’t get released on Saturday imma laugh

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And imma laugh hard 😂

mortal bay
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😘

noble coral
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Lol

mortal bay
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Assuming they stick to their consistent schedule I'm not going to be wrong

noble coral
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Every new warmaster released Saturday-Sunday

little berry
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Saturday!! It’s probably Sunday only in NZ

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Not so sure tho

noble coral
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Yeah

kind crane
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I’m going for it, against my better judgement

little berry
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Cause it gets released on Saturday at noon (gmt+1/2)

kind crane
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Should just get Thalassa to 110. But alas

little berry
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Any idea what its skill are going to look like?

mortal bay
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In just under 120hours

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I'll dm you

little berry
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Thx

kind crane
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Some heavy hitting, some curse, some cda

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That kinda jazz

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The curse intrigues me enough to get it, with higher health and matches lasting longer I feel it could benefit

wide python
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We only know what is leaked and that it will be control last is official told by Hackster rest can all change 😱

kind crane
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I’m not sure if devs have commented but didn’t they initially say it’d be a heavy hitter?

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I’m not complaining and think it’s looking good, just curious why the change of heart on it

wide python
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I cant take ss search in this channel comment made by Hackster

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You will see

noble coral
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I want OP skills xD to kill thalassa xddd 😈

kind crane
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Yami

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You’re up chuck

mortal bay
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What's going on ?

kind crane
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The ole killing Thalassa, OP magic debate

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I’m really thinking of joining the crowd and getting it. But want dark elemental so leaning towards Necro

mortal bay
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I'm getting Thalassa next

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Skipping the magic dude

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Thalassa + no blessings > Sherezar + blessings

kind crane
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Shere 100 + Thalassa 105 > Thalassa 110?

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If sp do their job and fix Shere’s 105 skill all my problems will be solved

unreal flume
mortal bay
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Not too sure about unranked monsters

kind crane
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It’s a tough life ain’t it

mortal bay
unreal flume
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Sherezar 100 is support SadP

cold sequoia
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you guys forgot that every new monster is released every monyh

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month*

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so I am assuming it to be the first week of jan

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new wm*

kind crane
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We’ve not had a Dec one tho

cold sequoia
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Remntar

kind crane
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And I reckon they’ll want it wrapped up before new year

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Wasn’t he November?

cold sequoia
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Babari is november

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October was Zahra

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Sept was thalassa

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aug was elvira

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July was necro

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Jun was barbael

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May was Gortak

strong bison
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Hey everyone what do you think we will have after wm?

cold sequoia
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Wm pets

strong bison
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I hope

unreal flume
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i hope you dont need 130 wm for them tho

strong bison
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I ment after wm

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And thier pets

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Old gods or something like that is my gess

kind crane
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I swear metal was Nov. Then again my memory is going so who know

unreal flume
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Old gods :GWqlabsKek:

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same Luke..., i thonk his dungeon started in Nov and ended Dec

strong bison
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I cant see your emote @unreal flume

gilded coyote
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Remntar was two rotations ago (this rotation included as one

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So started last day of November, lol, sneaky

tame beacon
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He was 1st until 8th of Dec 😃

gilded coyote
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Is it friday or saturday they change over?

tame beacon
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Saturday

gilded coyote
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Ah, then not sneaky SP, maybe? I dunno, either way it's not sneaky it's whatever, Magic comes when he comes

kind crane
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Doesn’t really matter to me

gilded coyote
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Debating on him for X runes, the best he would be would literally be 3 TS buffing my Xiron's skills and making sure Talos hits his Ruby Blade

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Don't need to waste a turn with my LLum with an accuracy boost

kind crane
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He’s not awful

gilded coyote
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Not at all

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That accuracy boost is literally what I've wanted this whole time haha

mortal bay
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Only had to wait 9 warmasters to get it

kind crane
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You should dream for bigger things in life

tame beacon
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I dunno Luke, with accuracy boost my life is complete in every way 😉

kind crane
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Do you even have the orbs to get it? 😛

gilded coyote
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Lol, I despise the misconstrued accuracy in this game so this buff is a godsend

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Magic boy with Xiron and Talos and at least my attack team is more done, pity Necro has to wait

mortal bay
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Situational accuracy

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Or rather

tame beacon
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Shh Luke don't mock my poor orb state 😦

mortal bay
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Inaccuracy

tame beacon
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But as it happens, I do. As long as I don't get Elvira first 😂

worthy scroll
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Sure that a accuracy will land on artifacts? , the other status casters don't for what I know.

tame beacon
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True Vision is supposed to be the trait

gilded coyote
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Yes that

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Status casters do also still work on artifacts

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Dmg mirror/skill mirror anyways

tame beacon
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Isn't it that skill mirror does because it goes through (like Timerion), but things like Thalassa's double stamina don't

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In which case the CD protection wouldn't either

gilded coyote
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I couldn't speak to that, as long as accuracy works lol, I'm fiending to know relic slots for Sherry

unreal flume
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@strong bison nobody can, global emotes are for some reason not allowed on all the channels of this server

strong bison
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oh ok

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oof

unreal flume
worthy scroll
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Yeah genie's grandpa will be like mask and staff maybe

unreal flume
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nonono

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better not

kind crane
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I’d rate mask and staff

worthy scroll
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Double staff?

unreal flume
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oof

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big non

kind crane
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And Sonnor go for Elvira 😛

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I’d take a shield so I can use tenacity 😂

unreal flume
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double staff :DrakeNo:
double mask/shield :DrakeYea:

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or banner

worthy scroll
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Shield and banner would be nice

mortal bay
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No status caster works on artefacts

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Remntar's doesnt

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Babari's doesn't

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None of them do

worthy scroll
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Ha! I knew it!

gilded coyote
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That is not false now, did they change that?

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I know for a fact my Tankerion was getting Dmg Mirror before

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(not that I'm complaining, makes more sense)

kind crane
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Supposedly Babari’s has been working on artefacts. Not sure why

gilded coyote
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Yea it no longer does, just tested

echo sundial
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That’s good

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Artefacts don’t get negatives but that should be at the cost of buffs

noble coral
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I wonder if i have total blind what happend to Ture Vision lol

cold sequoia
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Total blind is crap

tame beacon
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You will still miss. Total blind is a multiplier of 0, so any precision boosts don't change it.

noble coral
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Nice

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Drakor,Thalassa and Magic Warmaster a really True Kaos in battle

tame beacon
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It's a bit like having double damage and total damage reduction. Still 0 damage 😃

noble coral
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XD

faint beacon
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Drakor :GWeulixThonk:

cold sequoia
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Why Drakor?

noble coral
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Drakor have 50% aoe Mega stun with 0 cooldown

little berry
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I thought it had a 1 turn CD?

cold sequoia
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oh shiz

noble coral
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Plus sherezar help him and than mix with thallassa you'll never get a single turn......

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Thats really annoying lol

faint beacon
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:GWeulixThonk:

cold sequoia
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Sherezar has high stamina cost

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so I highly doubt it will be continous

noble coral
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Double maxium from thalassa a nice helpful, there is also recharge button lol

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Cant wait to try this

little berry
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Who the heck is Sherezar

faint beacon
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We immune to stun monster

noble coral
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Thalassa is very cool of disabling trait lool

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@little berry Sherezar is Magic Warmaster

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I cant wait to try his fake battle on my screen, i bet his enemy will be Thalassa

little berry
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Oh we got a name now

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Cool. Is he in game now?

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Hence why everyone’s talking about him

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😂

echo sundial
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Nah

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Next week

noble coral
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I bet that every player will have Elvira, Thalassa and Magic Warmaster, Elvira for protection, Thalassa mega freeze and disble traits plus Magic Warmaster with his skills OP battle, Curse is very dangerous skill so be very careful it removes 70% life in just 3 turns lol

unreal flume
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and stamina too lol

noble coral
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Dont say amything i am sick xDDD

little berry
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Not Magic WM tho, Thalassa and Elvira are OP.

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Lol he's apparently a control monster when he only has AOE CDA as his only decent control move, and it requires ranked.

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🙄

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Shademoon is better imo.

kind crane
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Everyone is saying shademoon is better I swear

tall cedar
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Magic wm is a beast when ranked

little berry
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Lol why do people say it's so good? It's good yeah but it's also a Warmaster. It's not a beast for a Warmaster lol.

unreal flume
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i cri

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he is

kind crane
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His last skill is dreamy. But also 10x more expensive than the race monster

tame beacon
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I'm just gonna go round Cursing people with both 😄

little berry
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In all honesty, I think most of the support for this monster comes from the massive amount of people who prepared for him. I also prepared but at least I'm honest he's not amazing 😛. I'll use him in team wars but I'd use the ranked Shademoon more.

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If Shademoon is race.

kind crane
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Sonnor just backtrack and go for Elvira

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She’s so much better 😂

tame beacon
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I'm totally gonna go for Elvira. Mostly for the cat 😄

little berry
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She is, I kinda think Remntar does the same job better tho, Elvira can be my defense anyways.

kind crane
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Imma go Thalassa route

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Can’t beat em join em

little berry
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😛

tame beacon
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Flaunting your wealth of orbs hey? 😉

kind crane
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I would class 6.3k as a wealth 😛

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I’d class it as, scrimping

tame beacon
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Haha feel free to scrimp them right over to my balance

kind crane
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😂😂 if I could, I would mate

unreal flume
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well, you can even get him r4 by simply playing for long time
i mean, if they dont remove the dungeons

little berry
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Or just be legendary leader.

unreal flume
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😂

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I maybe could even be, with X runes

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i mean i'd always be in top 500
i am getting there sometimes with VI runes only

tall cedar
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I would have got magic r4, if I could. But have only 5.3k

little berry
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The highest I'm gonna get with my team is L3, 2 of them being lvl 100.

tall cedar
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And I'm poor in magic😂

little berry
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Idc about my defense team, my attack just always wins.

shadow wharf
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Is any one here?

modern gust
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Me

little berry
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Tho I log on and see I've lost 250 trophies in a few hours.

modern gust
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Omg

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That sucks

little berry
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My attack team earns faster than I lose them tho so it's fine.

shadow wharf
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The magic wm is good

little berry
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I like it that way tbh.

shadow wharf
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Only for his trait

modern gust
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Magic wm is love ❤️

little berry
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It's good but not great for a WM.

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I mean, not bad for a WM either.

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It's good but situational.

shadow wharf
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@little berry i saw a guy that upload info about his trait but i saw info and it doesn't do what he write on the info

little berry
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I am hoping the magic WM is better than what we've seen, I am a little disappointed.

shadow wharf
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This guy write that the magic wm.. Protects the allys trait . and that's not true

little berry
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Then again, it'll make a bigger contrast to take in some more money on WM pets lol.

shadow wharf
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Tha magic wm. Trait is 35% less accuary againts him

little berry
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Oh no I've seen his true vision stuff and all that, I'm not really impressed.

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I'll get him but he's only decent for a WM when ranked.

shadow wharf
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He starts battle prottecting allies of cd activation

little berry
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Yeah I know.

shadow wharf
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And he gives allys double accuary thats good

little berry
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Eh not really for a WM.

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Like, Al Canine gives AOE CDA and Guard down in one attack.

shadow wharf
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@little berry the thing is that this guy is giving wrong information about the wm he said he protects allys traits. And that's not true

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Yeah alcanine is good

little berry
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Yeah I know it's not true, thanks. 👍

shadow wharf
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Have a nice day guys

little berry
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I think they will.

nocturne crater
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Precision is the single most important buff in the game. It allows 100% success attack plans with no room for error. Sherezar gives a double potency version of precision to all teammates at start of battle, as a trait. That alone makes Sherezar as powerful in skilled hands, at Rank 0, as Elvira (although even unskilled players can just parrot obvious combos with Elvira).

little berry
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I hope it's nothing like the leaks like with Remntar lol, he was so bad from what we saw and turned out amazing.

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I prefer guard down.

nocturne crater
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Guard down can be resisted. Precicion/ True Vision is own team and therefore plainly superior.

little berry
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Either way I sort of get where you're coming from @nocturne crater.

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But still it is a WM, and considering the traits which are coming out on normal monsters atm, not super impressive.

mortal bay
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He's so far looking to be better than over half of the current warmasters

little berry
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I disagree.

nocturne crater
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Well, I am still campaigning to nerf Thalassa, so I am not at all in favour of power leap. The answer is not to buff Warmasters to the point of game breaking, but to nerf the OP other monsters. IMO.

Yes, agreed @mortal bay

mortal bay
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Fighting fire with fire is stupid for a balanced game. Everything needs to be kept in line instead of making everything ridiculous and broken

little berry
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I also disagree with that to an extent. I just don't think they should be released as OP. I don't think Thalassa should be nerfed now people have earnt her, maybe countered, but not nerfed.

mortal bay
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Rework Thalassa's ult, that's it

little berry
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Well yeah, maybe that as an exception lol.

mortal bay
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You can plan against pretty much every single battle scenario apart from a Thalassa ult

little berry
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I'm not big on ults since they have 5% chance but still.

tame beacon
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She should have been nerfed before release, but yes it probably won't happen now lol

little berry
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^

mortal bay
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There is literally nothing you can do right now. Unless more monsters like Neobuki are released your attack plan will always be flawed

tame beacon
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You mean an autowin button isn't fair?? 😛

mortal bay
little berry
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I almost guarentee there will be more monsters with accuracy boost as a trait in the future, the magic WM doesn't reach top half of WMs imo, but still, I see how it could be really handy for some people.

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Like all monsters, they're kinda situational but I think he's a bit too situational.

crystal vigil
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Situational?

little berry
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Well, CDA immunity for a start.

crystal vigil
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Aren't you mainly using him for precision anyway?

little berry
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That means he's going to be used with inaccurate monsters mainly, which doesn't include a great deal of attackers, mainly status appliers.

mortal bay
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You know he has probably the best move in the game right ? If not best then top 3 at least

little berry
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I've seen his moves yeah.

echo sundial
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who?

tame beacon
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Any 50% move, any AOE move benefit. That's a large chunk of monsters!

little berry
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Well, just my opinion, putting it out there.

echo sundial
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oh R4 Shezer

mortal bay
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It's not even a skills group 4 skill

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It's sg3

little berry
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Yeah IK, well SP should scrap the CDA immunity and put something better in there.

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Also a better unranked control move.

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He only has 1 AOE control.

echo sundial
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what the oof

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CDA is top tier control

tame beacon
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CDA is deny, not control 😛

echo sundial
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since it affects artifacts and doesnt get destroyed by relics such as stam removal

little berry
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Oops.

gilded coyote
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I've talked myself into getting Sherry, will make my attack team all around phenom

timid hornet
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@echo sundial please edit your comment

crystal vigil
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Well, you don't need inaccurate monsters to make use of the precision

echo sundial
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^

crystal vigil
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If you for example

echo sundial
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Bloodthirsty

crystal vigil
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Face nemesis which have bulwark

little berry
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Elvira.

echo sundial
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and removing bulwark etc is already useful enough

crystal vigil
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Or warmasters which have tough

mortal bay
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Ignoring*

tame beacon
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Or all the millions of monsters that have hardened/tough

echo sundial
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^

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almost every neme and wm has a version of hardened

little berry
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Well just putting out my opinion, I'll get him anyways, maybe find some use with Kihaku but I'll use Shademoon more.

echo sundial
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meh

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Magic's usefulness 100% depends on your current set of monsters

tame beacon
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@echo sundial can you edit the abbreviated swearing from earlier please

echo sundial
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he suits higher levelled players a lot more

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as they have more monsters that will benefit from the buff

little berry
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Yeah, situational like I said.

gilded coyote
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Yea...like my Xiron/Talos combo 😍

echo sundial
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;p

tame beacon
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Thank you 😃

echo sundial
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im gonna be running elvira, kihaku shezer on attack

little berry
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Why not seperate Elvira and Shezer?

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I'd use Kihaku, Shezer and you said you were getting Remntar, use him, if you're using Shezer with strength, that is.

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Kihaku speedsX speedsX speedsX
Shezer speedtX strengthsX strengthsX
Remntar
speedtX speedtX speedtX / strengthsX speedtX speedtX

gilded coyote
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I dunno why you'd ever use Sherry with atk

little berry
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Because attack team is fun to use, defense monsters are my boring ones.

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Shezer and Burogtor😄

echo sundial
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I’m using rem on defence

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Rem Neo Xiron ded

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Def *

little berry
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Idc about my defense team tbh.

gilded coyote
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Rem/Bab/Cyber on my def, only reason I'm flirting with L3 with barely attacking

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Defense is so much funner then attack

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anyone can put together an attack team, putting together such a great defense, even the AI can't screw up, is a true accomplishment

little berry
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I find attack more fun cuz you actually do something.

noble coral
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Sherezar,Thalassa,Drakor best team ever

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Lol

strong bison
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nope

little berry
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No.

noble coral
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It is

little berry
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Oh ok, you must be right.

unreal flume
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😂

cold sequoia
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We have 3 equations

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The Magic WM extremist cult

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The Old WM is da best cult

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and the good old nemesis will always be the best ... cult (SAMMY lovers)

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when equating the 3

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we get thalassa should be nerfed

unreal flume
#

😂

misty elm
#

Amen 😌

wide python
#

🤣

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im not in any of those cults is that also a possibility?

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although I love sammy

misty elm
#

Everything equates to Thalassa should be nerfed 😄

wide python
#

I have beaten her lol

misty elm
#

Me too, but not a 130 one 😄

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I was rekt 😄

mortal bay
#

I never lose to her unless she ults

wide python
#

we cant be you 🙃

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but i loved the 4 x points it made me very brave 😂

misty elm
#

She always ults

wide python
#

not if you beat her first

misty elm
#

Easier said than done 😄

wide python
#

😂

misty elm
#

My denier is fast, sure, but when I activate her cooldowns, it's like an instant Ult button 😄

unreal flume
#

😁

worthy scroll
#

I got a timmy 130 a Nature Thalos 130 and a Magic Talos 120 and I never dare to face Thalassa lol

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too scare to try

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Tried a revenge once and it was a train wreck with her special move that she did after 2 extra turns

wind summit
#

Anybody mind posting the magic warmaster's skills on here. Taringa never wants to work on my phone for some reason.

little berry
#

I think someone would have to DM you the skills. Taringa isn't allowed on these servers. I could be wrong though so don't quote me on this.

fickle acorn
#

No Taringa. GWmythiFeelsBannedMan

kind crane
#

Un sacopuntas

cold sequoia
#

I kid you no

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not*

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I swear whenever I do CDA

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the enemy gets a ult

wind summit
#

Ah, good to know. Thanks anyway

misty elm
#

Yeah, it looks like CDA somehow increases the chance of getting an Ult (which should not be the case)

lusty ruin
#

It would be interesting to find out if this is intended behavior or not.

worthy scroll
#

So relics for the magic warmaster are trap and essence

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Ruby trap and xiron essence as a reward for floor 6, wonder what they'll do

faint beacon
#

Same I want to know

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Can you check wiki

unreal flume
#

Maybe Ruby trap will give 1 random control effect to enemy after being hit

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:WeSmart:

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And wut
Ruby trap and Xiron essense?
:GWqlabsKek:

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Aren't they Both Xiron's

gilded coyote
#

Indeed

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Sherry knows who top magic denier still is lol

unreal flume
cinder geyser
#

@unreal flume relics does not apply effects

unreal flume
#

😂

cinder geyser
#

The only heal/decrease/increase stats

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Revive etc...

unreal flume
#

ok lol.

misty elm
#

Maybe if the target has a control status effect, it removes stamina from them 🤔

mortal bay
#

So far anyway

cold sequoia
#

well

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its offical

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sherezar is coming next week

hidden crown
#

WOOHOO

cold sequoia
#

blessings b/w 2 nd jan and 10th'

kind crane
#

Have official skills been confirmed?

cold sequoia
#

Not sure about that

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Whatever it is

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The devs have to decide it

echo sundial
#

When a WM comes out

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How much are both the orb offers

noble coral
#

Xiron's essence will give random control to enemy's will be cool xD

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More OP more perfect

misty elm
#

I don't think they'll introduce control effects on relics. That'd make any monster a denier.

mortal bay
#

I like your logic

noble coral
#

Yes

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So Sherezar will come this Sunday 12:00 Europe time

misty elm
#

Also with 3 control effects the enemy will be immune to anything Xiron does the next turn (unless it drains stamina or activates cooldowns)

wide python
#

if it comes it comes on saterday

echo sundial
#

How much are the orb offers

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From when new wm comes

misty elm
#

You mean the 2,5k orbs one? That's around 50 dollars

echo sundial
#

Isn’t there also a 20 one?

misty elm
#

🤷

gilded coyote
#

You're better off spending on gems and buying the first two offers per sale

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That 20 dollar one was just on black Friday

echo sundial
#

Ye ye ye but I can’t use like £30 worth of gems in a week just using first 2 offers

gilded coyote
#

You get 4400 orbs or so buying 1700 gems on 50% off

echo sundial
#

Meh I’m thinking about Christmas iTunes gcs from relatives

kind crane
#

If that’s the case you’re probs better off spending it on going to the cinema and food

mortal bay
mortal bay
#

Sherezar is in the monstergram

tame beacon
#

Noice. Trait same as expected?

mortal bay
#

Kinda

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His true vision is double precision

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It doesn't ignore traits like orc and bulwark, not directly anyeay

#

Anyway

tame beacon
#

Heh. I suspected the “ignoring traits” might have been a flavour text lol. I mean to be fair, a 100% status effect with double precision is still guaranteed to land against bulwark

mortal bay
#

True

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But yeah you're right

#

Flavour text

tame beacon
#

Still, precision is great 😃

echo sundial
#

Wait

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So does it not bypass bulwark

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And it’s it 100% effects guaranteed ?

mortal bay
#

It's double precision

cold sequoia
#

the true question

#

is

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if it works on effects

tame beacon
#

It does

cold sequoia
#

It does?

tame beacon
#

It does

cold sequoia
#

So its a mega buff for Khihaku

strong bison
#

Yep

#

I thoght about that

#

And also for everyone with good 50% skills

cold sequoia
#

Thats pretty sick skill

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armor's video made me feel like quiting monsters xD

strong bison
#

I DONT THINK HE FULLY UNDERSTOOD THE MONSTER

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@cold sequoia

cold sequoia
#

yea

#

BUT HE SAID BARBAEL IS THE BEST WM

strong bison
#

ik

#

oof

tame beacon
#

That is... very confusing

strong bison
#

ik

gilded coyote
#

Not ignoring Bulwark and all that is fine, still huge for being coupled with Xiron like I planned, still will get him

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I have been fiending for precision aoe buff lol

little berry
#

Llum tooo

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0 cd, 0 stamina aoe blind+damage red+stamina leak

cold sequoia
#

My plan is to pair him up with Khihaku and burgator

polar valve
#

my plan is to get him

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and keep him for magic wars or put him in pvp def

little berry
#

Well

#

Guess the 50%s will still have a pretty big chance to miss against things like bulwark. Afterall. By logic, this should work like full effects do against the ressistance traits normally.

cold sequoia
#

You need to stop finding flaws in everything

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100% is better than 50%

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and other deny skills with 95% effects will land

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by passing the trait

little berry
#

I'm walking in on a magic WM extremist again aren't I?

cold sequoia
#

No

little berry
#

That's a first lol.

cold sequoia
#

precision is underated

#

I would say that to any monster than has any trait

#

that trait*

little berry
#

Precision is good but having a monster dedicated to it not so much.

#

I prefer Al Canine so I have a support and an attacker to go alongside.

#

He can apply guard down.

cold sequoia
#

you do know the importance of it right?

little berry
#

And his role as a denier.

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Of precision? Yes.

cold sequoia
#

This precision is there no matter what

#

you don't have to apply it

#

You can just happily use it

little berry
#

I realised...

cold sequoia
#

no stamina cost like al canine

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and btw i didn't forget you arguing that the precision is only for damg

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and saying if it was for effects aswell its broken

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but now you completely changed your motion

strong bison
#

🤔

fickle acorn
#

Take this discussion to outside of this server.

echo sundial
#

Ok

fickle acorn
#

Thank you. It has been deleted. GWchadThink

echo sundial
#

I’m gonna give him 1ping so he knows

fickle acorn
#

DM.

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What did I say.

#

No abbreviated cursing either. GWfroggyWeSmart

mortal bay
strong bison
little berry
#

Baron traitor will be great with magic wm

echo sundial
#

Same with Kihaku

strong bison
#

same with 20%+ of monsters

echo sundial
#

And Xiron since it negates bulwark etc

strong bison
#

yup

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i ask myself if it will aslso land on control immu monsters

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i hope not

unreal flume
#

well if effect is 50% and enemy has a bulwark its still 50% isnt it?

strong bison
#

no

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it goes pass + double %

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if i am correct

unreal flume
#

no

#

it does not bypass traits

#

it gives double precision

strong bison
#

it does both

unreal flume
#

and doubling the 100% chance is somewhat of bypassing trait

strong bison
#

test me

unreal flume
#

🤔

strong bison
#

OOF

#

ither they changed it or i got it wrong

unreal flume
#

in game it doubles precision

strong bison
#

i know

#

they changed it i think

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i leaks it was something else

tame beacon
#

Spirits, Undead, Exclusive. I had completely missed he was undead lol

strong bison
#

lol

little berry
modern gust
#

Voted

ionic tinsel
#

Why does barbael have two votes?

little berry
#

The best warmaster is Elvira. Then Thalassa. Then Magic

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Actually its Elvira, Magic, Thalassa

#

Hmm. Actually Magic a draw with Elvura as the Best WM

cold sequoia
#

Barbael srsly?

little berry
#

Thalassa, Elvira/Remntar, Sherezar, Necromancer, Babari, Barbael, Zahra

cold sequoia
#

Remntar is no where close to elvira

little berry
#

Yes he is.

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In fact, I use him more.

cold sequoia
#

No his skills are trash

#

No one cares if you use him more

little berry
#

🤷 I find him better.

cold sequoia
#

Necro and remntar yes

little berry
#

No.

cold sequoia
#

But Not better than sherezar

little berry
#

Sherezar is not better.

cold sequoia
#

You know what I can't make a metal WM extremist understand

little berry
#

Not this again. I don't have time to argue.

cold sequoia
#

He is not closse to being good to elvira sadly

#

sorry

#

peace out

little berry
#

Lol. I'm not bothered. He works for me.

crystal vigil
#

Psilotus why are you putting thalassa so low? At 120+ she's almost undoubtedly the best, though i agree that at lower ranks she isn't too good...

little berry
#

120 Remntar is really good but Most ppl have lvl 100. Hes not that good at lvl 110 either

#

Sherrzar

#

@little berry. At 100 Remntar's trait is very good.

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Personally I pair him with Cain so possesion based deniers aren't a problem.

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Meh remntar not as much a trouble at lvl100 as elvira is.

#

Depends on the situation really. I use Elvira for defense because she's a deterrent but honestly I don't think she's better than Remntar.

#

They're both very good WMs.

ionic tinsel
#

Renntar is just as good

#

It’s got special protection for entire game

little berry
#

Remntar can only dream of pulling off combinations at a level elvira does at lvl100

ionic tinsel
#

Who cares?

#

Magic warmaster is trash at 100

little berry
#

No

#

Magic wm is very good at lvl100

ionic tinsel
#

?

#

It’s terrible

little berry
#

Immunity to special and skill mirror? That trait is definitely the level of Elvira, especially for a support monster.

ionic tinsel
#

Doesn’t have any good skills

#

Remtars trait is better then elvira

little berry
#

Traot is nowhere close to evasion.

#

How so?

ionic tinsel
#

Because you can’t remove positive effects on special protection

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And it’s permanent

crystal vigil
#

With evasion you can actually avoid control effects

ionic tinsel
#

Psilotus you obviously don’t see Warthaks and Sammy everybody uses them

little berry
#

The opponent's denier goes first, Remntar reflects it. Your team recharge before them and you end up going first.

ionic tinsel
#

Skill mirror reflects control

crystal vigil
#

I'm actually currently at 5.65k trophies and i didn't see any on my way there 🤔

ionic tinsel
#

Let me specify elvira is replaceable

#

Just get a Gakora

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Or Nishants bg

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Gakora was race and Nishants bg team shop

little berry
#

Elvira at 130 is just too goood

crystal vigil
#

What if

ionic tinsel
#

So most people have high rank

crystal vigil
#

The enemy is faster

ionic tinsel
#

130 Thalassa beats all no questions

tame beacon
#

So spanish wikia says the random positive effect on Sherezar is one of: Protect Positive Effects, Protect Trait, Dodge Area, 100% Damage Mirror, Torture Immunity, Cooldown Protection, Control Immunity, Skill Mirror, Evasion, Double Damage, Triple Damage and Damage Boost

little berry
#

But Remntar runs TS...

tame beacon
#

Not just ANY positive effect

little berry
#

Protect trait.. WOW

#

Its coming Folks!

ionic tinsel
#

One good sill at 105

#

Meh

little berry
#

^

ionic tinsel
#

It’s still nothing cause it’s a denier

tame beacon
#

Well it makes the 120 skill great too

little berry
#

Lol.. The trait is the best after evasion

ionic tinsel
#

Evasion is a status caster lol

#

And remtar/necro has best trait

little berry
#

Try 2 area dodgers vs Remntar. Remntar will cry like this 😝 😝 😝 😰 😰

ionic tinsel
#

Nobody has two

little berry
#

Sherezar can make 3

ionic tinsel
#

And how does that counter remtar

#

Magic wm can but the chances are so low

#

You can’t rely on luck

little berry
#

Use the hitman shademoon

ionic tinsel
#

Otherwise you could say tankerion is the best because it CAN insta skill everybody

little berry
#

No cuz area dodge

#

Is apparently the best trait rn

ionic tinsel
#

No way

#

To take out the main threat you always use single attacks so it’s pretty meh

little berry
#

Just taunt.. Heh

#

Taunt with neobuki and its a Knock Out

#

Especially remntar will be first to be KO

#

Now because of the list of positive effects, I'll vote for sherezar as the best wm

#

At 120

tame beacon
#

The clear all effects from both allies and enemies + extra turn seems to be a ranked move now, with CDA moving to SG3

little berry
#

AOE cda?

cold sequoia
#

Can't believe I am seeing so many metal WM extremist

#

Stop praising skill mirror

#

at the end of the day its gonna be for one turn and its gonna get stripped off like evasion

#

So its pointless saying the skill mirror is the best

little berry
#

@tame beacon?

cold sequoia
#

On the other hand Sherezar's true vision is one of the best trait

#

the double accuracy is by far a big boast for a lot of deniers like Khihaku and almost all denier

little berry
#

^

cold sequoia
#

and the fact is a trait is just excellent

#

you don't understand it

#

Precision is the most under rated affect

#

you people need to a open mind

#

rather than chanting remntar is the best

#

while the obvious isn't

little berry
#

^

#

Sherezar > Remntar

tame beacon
#

Yeh, AOE psilotus

little berry
#

Wooo

cold sequoia
#

XD aoe area dodge

#

I am gonna laugh at thalassa when sherezar casts it as luck

mortal bay
#

Anticipation is still the best

little berry
#

My lady sherezar doing it the best

cold sequoia
#

^ If your talking pure trait

#

yes anticipation has the crown

#

and for the person who said elvira has trash skills

tame beacon
cold sequoia
#

Remntar has even worse

mortal bay
#

I'm not a fan of Rejuvenation

cold sequoia
#

I hope I made my point clear

#

and I hope this remntar is the best cult just opens up to the honest truth

mortal bay
#

Remntar has a good sg4

cold sequoia
#

Yea other than the skill mirror

#

None of them are Warmaster like

#

maybe r1

tame beacon
#

Yeh Rejuvenation is his attempt at an attacking skill 😂

cold sequoia
#

but its just another positive anticipation

little berry
#

Lol

tame beacon
#

At least the positive didn't turn out to be as much of a random shot in the dark

little berry
#

Its a great list of efffects

cold sequoia
#

Immune to nightmare

#

will make me cry

tame beacon
#

Good thing its not on the list 😂

little berry
#

Immunt to torture

cold sequoia
#

He also has high cool down skills

#

glad he has CDA protection

#

and the fact he can remove all effects as a bar gain with extra turn

#

puts elvira and remntar in trouble

mortal bay
#

In before he gets 1 shot by a monster with anticipation

noble coral
#

Wow hia skill group four is such amazing .... for Magic

cold sequoia
#

Yea necro is a obvious counter

ionic tinsel
#

Necro might become best warmaster

mortal bay
#

Lol no

little berry
#

What does magic theft do

cold sequoia
#

thetys mom my briend

tame beacon
#

I mean Necro did bring him back to life. Maybe he programmed in some weaknesses 😛

mortal bay
#

Cda doesn't hurt Necro

tame beacon
#

Removes negative affects on 1 ally, and gives himself extra turn Psilotus

cold sequoia
#

@noble coral Its literally the same skills

#

why do you keep saying it

#

Lmao He has vaparo corpis

mortal bay
#

Negative effects doesn't really either

little berry
#

Nice. Looks like I have let go of the single cda

cold sequoia
#

such aanoice move

#

And I don't see how remntar's skills can provide that

ionic tinsel
#

I’m calling it three speed magic wm and three teamspeed Thalassa

noble coral
#

Thalassa<Magic, Magic>Thalassa

#

XD

mortal bay
#

Weird guy

cold sequoia
#

Seriously teamspeed thalassa?

ionic tinsel
#

Yes

#

It’ll become a thing

cold sequoia
#

You do realize thetys mom is still the best right?

ionic tinsel
#

Happened to ruby

mortal bay
#

So ?

cold sequoia
#

but sherezar is no where close to thetys mom as a denier

ionic tinsel
#

Yes Thalassa is still the best but magic wm is faster

cold sequoia
#

So what?

mortal bay
#

Thalassa isn't going to see any changes at all

little berry
#

My moveset at 105:
Aoe cda, random positive effect, aoe curse, aoe remove positive.

Is that good?

cold sequoia
#

Even Barbael is faster

noble coral
#

Still Sherexar has mkre speed than thalassa and can activate all colldowns to thalassa and rip her

cold sequoia
#

I would run 3 speed and total blind

ionic tinsel
#

Barbael is hot trash though

mortal bay
#

Thalassa Elvira Faraday can't be touched by Sherezar

cold sequoia
#

You can counter thalassa but your not gonna counter a lot of monsters

noble coral
#

Depend now lol

ionic tinsel
#

Actually maybe theee speed Thalassa and wm magic teamspeed for cooldowns protection

cold sequoia
#

Its depends

#

its facts

ionic tinsel
#

So you don’t get denied by other magic wm

cold sequoia
#

an anticipations monster dominates sherezar

tame beacon
#

Yeh sounds about right Psilotus. It's between random positive + remove negative vs remove negative + extra turn

little berry
#

Sherezar will remove aoe evasion + extra turn.

cold sequoia
#

Yea

#

and thats it

mortal bay
#

Then Faraday 1 shots him

cold sequoia
#

He can't touch the traits

ionic tinsel
#

Then necro or faraday from other team gets turn

#

That’s why elvira + anticipation is so good

#

Best counter to Thalassa as well

cold sequoia
#

and necro will tt to an attacker or thalassa

noble coral
#

Thalssa sherezar and Elvira nice team

ionic tinsel
#

No way

echo sundial
#

@little berry what SG is that skill

mortal bay
#

Sherezar is useless in that team

cold sequoia
#

@ionic tinsel people have found a way to by pass it with thalassa

little berry
#

Then its upto faraday to try and 1 shot. I think its not sure the 1 hit. What are his relics

ionic tinsel
#

Thalassa, Elvira and faraday is still best

cold sequoia
#

Thalassa is pretty tanky

tame beacon
#

SG4, 2nd one

cold sequoia
#

and with a shield

echo sundial
#

Ah

cold sequoia
#

she can survive with a few HP from faraday

noble coral
#

Thalassa is like a queen on Chees 😂

little berry
#

U can run tenacity to avoid 1 hit from faraday

ionic tinsel
#

Psilotus faraday has jakugan

cold sequoia
#

Jakugan is no where close to tentacity

mortal bay
#

Sherezar is trap essence

echo sundial
#

Oof

ionic tinsel
#

Oh shinigami Uriel....

little berry
#

So uriels eh

echo sundial
#

Uriel Oblation?

little berry
#

So after reviving, sherezar will continue with extra turn.. And do cda

noble coral
#

What does that Ruby trap and Xironnessence do?!

#

Inthink theyre op

echo sundial
#

Ooof Ruby trap?

noble coral
#

Ruby and xiron they are same 😆

echo sundial
#

What Floor do u get the diamond on?

timid hornet
#

@ionic tinsel no swearing in here, please edit that msg

little berry
#

Like before faraday hits, Sherezar's turn will be waiting.

#

In line

mortal bay
#

Faraday can stun him

little berry
#

So after revive from uriel, he does control or cda

#

Let's bring in gortak then eh

ionic tinsel
#

Edited

little berry
#

Oh yeahhhh

timid hornet
#

Thanks

ionic tinsel
#

Gortak used to be overrated now it’s underrated

echo sundial
#

Gortak is great lol

mortal bay
#

Pretty average

little berry
#

sherezar best wm in my opinion now

echo sundial
#

Maybe

#

I’m gonna still only get him R0

ionic tinsel
#

I like gortaks versatility

#

Don’t get magic wm at 100 pretty terrible

#

Traits nice but still...

little berry
#

?

#

Aoe cda

ionic tinsel
#

That’s 110

little berry
#

No. Its changed

#

Idk whether to get rank 3 sherezar or rank 0

ionic tinsel
#

Wait wt shinigami

#

Then that’s pretty good at 100

lusty shell
#

:GWqlabsFeelsNinjaMan:

little berry
#

Aoe cda now SG3

#

I'm gonna rank Elvira and remntar as well

#

so much orbs needed ugh

ionic tinsel
#

Psilotus then he’s bad at 100 if it’s a sills Group four skill

lusty shell
#

Hur dur need around 150 orbs to get another rano zero wm

ionic tinsel
#

Lol

#

I only have 1.5k

little berry
#

TeRRoRs 😉

ionic tinsel
#

Bit I’m going for rank one necro

little berry
#

I like the order of skills now.

ionic tinsel
#

Yes terrors is best

little berry
#

:)

lusty shell
#

Ech

little berry
#

I might do lifesX speedtX speedtX
Or lifesX speedsX speedsX

ionic tinsel
#

Why?

#

Life?

little berry
#

Runes for Sherezar?

#

Just to take a bashing

#

oh goodie more arguing?

ionic tinsel
#

Its debating

#

Not arguing

lusty shell
little berry
#

debating is when we do it polite

#

last time i saw a debate in here it wasn't really polite tbh

ionic tinsel
#

Lol

little berry
#

🤔

ionic tinsel
#

You piece of **** I’m right and ur wrong

little berry
#

How will u rune her

ionic tinsel
#

See I’m polite

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I won’t get em

little berry
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is it a boy or a girl

ionic tinsel
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Boy

little berry
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A girl

ionic tinsel
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At 100 I’ll run gold

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105-110 teamspeed

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And 115 and above three speed

little berry
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Gold? 😶

ionic tinsel
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Yes

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Don’t like it at 100

little berry
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Good runes for the best WM?

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Lol gold, I was thinking along the same lines

ionic tinsel
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It’s not the best

little berry
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for 100

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all speed

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not best lmao

ionic tinsel
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And at 100 maybe worst

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Except Zahra

little berry
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thalassa is best war master

ionic tinsel
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And barbael

little berry
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and u cant change my mind

ionic tinsel
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Yes

little berry
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I'll get it 100 just for collecting tbh

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Did you say gold runes for the best WM?

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😶

ionic tinsel
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Don’t say best

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Say top

little berry
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😐... best...

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Toppest

barren arch
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@ionic tinsel You need to edit your message.

ionic tinsel
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Which message?

barren arch
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I’ll dm you that one.

little berry
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Topmost female WM who happens to be better than thalassa

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if u say so

ionic tinsel
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Thalassa, magic and necro are top three

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Lag

little berry
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Read my re-edit

mortal bay
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?

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No

ionic tinsel
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Magic is male though

little berry
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I saw another pic where its a female

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But I'll consider it female regardless

ionic tinsel
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It’s 100% male

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Not a trap

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Or reverse trap

lusty shell
ionic tinsel
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Or trans

little berry
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its not better than thallasa tho

little berry
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As some you may know, the last Warmaster is technically here. I'm so excited!

nocturne crater
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If Talika's Banner can be stealth nerfed, I see no reason why Thalassa's special can't be nerfed.

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Original:

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Now nerfed:

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But sssssshhhhh! It's obviously a secret...

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Now please can we drop the trait disable from Thalassa's special? Or the remove positive?

main current
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Whoa.... That’s not even a nerf..... it’s just completely different!!!

nocturne crater
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Way, way weaker. Without a word of warning or comment that I can see.

icy cipher
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WTH. When did they change that? That relic was one of the reasons I got the R5 blessing in the first place

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Cant believe they did that

little berry
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Changed it without even an announcement eh

timid hornet
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Visual bug maybe

peak flower
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Damn that really sucks. They changed fulmans shield as well.

little berry
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It looks the same as Ruby trap. May be its a bug

icy cipher
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I sent a ticket in game. Hope its a visual bug

burnt basin
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It is not visual, it really does what is described. Since fulmen's shield has also changed, I'd bet they wanted to test the new relics for the magic WM and simply forgot to restore remntar relics once they were done: sloppy but totally not surprising from SP if that proves to be true

nocturne crater
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Ah yes, I bet that's it. I reckon you are spot on, @burnt basin

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Still think any occasion is a good occasion to take the opportunity to nerf Thalassa's special 😉

burnt basin
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@nocturne crater totally agree 😬

ionic tinsel
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No make it so Thalassa does regular freeze instead of mega freeze then we got balanced

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For skills group four

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And then ult is just mega freeze no remove positive or trait disable

dim lava
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Please do not nerf my Thalassa...

cold sequoia
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Lmao seems like I have the last laugh

ionic tinsel
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How so?

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Remember when everybody wanted to refund Thalassa

cold sequoia
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Lmao your one of the kids who said sherezar is bad

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along with the remntar extremist

little berry
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Lol.

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Sherezar isn't amazing. Also, how am I a Remntar extremist? I use other WMs too, he's just my favourite.

dim lava
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@ionic tinsel I remember.

cold sequoia
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@little berry at the beginning of remntar

little berry
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Yes?

cold sequoia
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You said remntar is 4th or might be equal with remntar

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and then few days later

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you say he's better than necro

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the previous day you said he has the best trait and matches with elvira

little berry
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At the start

cold sequoia
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either ways I am glad you understand the potential of sherezar

little berry
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I've used them both more now.

cold sequoia
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He's pretty nice support at 100

little berry
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LOL. I'm only getting him for collection.

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He's alright, yeah. Not as good as you say tho. 😂

cold sequoia
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better than remntar?

little berry
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😩 No, not unranked.

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Ranked they're different sorts of monsters, so idk.

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But unranked no.

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Sherezar needs to be 110 anyways.

cold sequoia
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Oof

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I just like sherezar's design and his lore

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Not my favorite wm

little berry
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Yeah but do you see what I mean? 😂

cold sequoia
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He needs to be ranked up

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yes

ionic tinsel
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Deadbush I know magic wm is op

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But only 115 and above

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And Thalassa is way more broken

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And finally remtar is amazing he’s probably 5th best warmaster

cold sequoia
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I am not saying remntar is bad

mortal bay
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I can't post "leaked" images here. Although I can post these:

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These are going to be the effects for the new relics from Sherezars blessings

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Ruby Trap will act like the banner is currently descripted

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And Xirons Essence will act like the shield is currently descripted

ionic tinsel
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Sp stuffs up again lol

tame beacon
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Calm down, its fixed.

ionic tinsel
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I am always calm

misty elm
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Why make the same relics in different categories?

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SP is out of ideas ...

patent sphinx
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Babari has the best relics so far): Can’t see myself using this essence instead of Uriel’s