#monster-discussion
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:Kek:
I thonk too 😄
I still have some skills 50%
i never had any in first place
From inheritor to make all aklies ignite and burn i still have that lel
except on 3,4 monsters
monster which benefit from that, i all have in storage lol
cloud, cant wait for him lol
I still have a 50% skill on my Light Llum
i dont :SadCat:
:/
Magic WM is completely fine tho if he needs a change the only thing that needs changing is His rank 1 skill
🙏🙏
SG1->SG3 his skills are great
@wide python
Rank 1 is meh
Rank 2 is good
RANK 3 is ok I guess
Rank 4 is great
Rank 4 bruhh its terrible cool
@unreal flume also since tough etc becomes useless Xiron always hits 2 controls
And Kihakus 50% is ayy
Are you ok? His R4 skill is great
lol
Aoe DoT Aoe denial and aoe buff
Just magic wm yes need some changes at group 1 and the last skill must affect 2 random torture and control skill will be nice 😅😅😁
rank 1 skill is there so he actually can be balanced :weSmart:
How it is now is completely fine
🤣
@echo sundial random positive effect is not so great
thats R1
R4 is not only that to all allies
its random torture and random control
and now you can apply curse as torture too
If your changing R1 skill it should be aoe random pos single remove negOr aoe remove neg and single pos
pretty fine
Yea its great but the torture and random positive is iffy
All allies gains positive status effect in last skill ?
or 0cd
Yes I know
he non have 0 cd skills
I’d be fine if his R4 skill was his ult omegalul
@unreal flume he has cda block tho
the random positive skill can be immune to nightmare xD
So it’s fine
Yes @unreal flume 😁
i know
Cooldowns protections hm kinda bad it would be cool if all allies gains positive status effect at the start of the battle lel
i wonder how much will his curse last in his sg2 and 3 skills
the main question is if the curse stacks up
If the curse is for 1 t
then if you apply curse again
will it be 20 or 10
hmm
Oh yes i see there is a new brand skill curse but what it means ?🤔
Shademoon has curse 1 turn only in special
xD its a new way to beat adventure boss
So
- Thalassa
2.Elvira
3.Sheeeuerhreuhreu idk the name
- Remntar/Necro
5.Babari
6.Gortak
7.Zahra
spam :Kek:
Lol 😝
i'd say i somewhat agree
tho doenst he counter thalassa at same level, i thonk she non 0 cd OP skill
if he could just stop time too
Yes the skills at group 1 must change 🤷🏻♂️
the new area dodge monsters are supper hard
There is no need to change group 1 skills
group 4 r1 needs a buff
make it TT
@cold sequoia I DISAGREE
There is nothing to disagree there
and no, area dodge are not super hard lol
@unreal flume for magic wm
we are not, i really suggest closing this channel till he comes into game
so hell come balanced and not OP cause some ppl are complaining
cause they want it o be most broken monster ever
so he will have a hard time
he :Thonk:
- His remove positive effect is gamble
you have to give up your effects for the enemies
that means skill mirror etc gets removed
well
not if you dont have any effects tho
and you mean cda protection
but he gets extra turn lol
Yeah xd
He is decent 👌 in r0
But i dont like the skill in group 4 1st which gives 1 random positive effect to one ally 🤮
This need change
Not only CDA
if your pairing with elvira WM+
What?
The cda should be 0 ?
person above me Deadbush
about elvira, you dont pair him with elvira :weSmart:
Why though
So when will the magic wm be released ?
😂
@pale fiber Next year sadly
Perfect i m not ready yet i m going for rank 3 i dont have enough rank 4 magic L yet
@noble coral you like complaining lol
His SG1 are op to say there SG1
He has an aoe cda in SG1 lol
So do we get magic in tomorrow’s WM rotation or in the Christmas one
It would've shown up already I dare say if it was coming tomorrow
all the others have since they did the new layout after 23:59 left until next rotation
I'l be surprised if magic wm isn't in female book
Why is that?
Cuz it looks like a girl
I mean, it's pretty clearly male lol (I had to look at him again real hard to make sure before I said that)
Lol ok. Have you seen the other dungeon pic
I've seen all of them yes
^
Ok then
It's a dude ?
Maybe they'll change Magic WMs trait from immune to CDA, if they make it something better I'll get it
If not then I'll get Elvira.
Maybe both.
Eh.. Its pretty good now
but its good
he is weak to cda
but he has cda immunity
and no
itll stay
so he can stay balanced
Doesn't get much better than accuracy boost in a game where that accuracy they tell you is a god awful lie lol
Maybe if the team don't have any cooldowns activated on 1st turn
90% and I feel like I miss 45% of the time
🤔
Cuz of true vision
that acc boost is a must have
Cuz u can make even 50% chances land on bulwarks
especially since almost all monsters are tough
I need someone to evaluate my magic WM team in DMs, I'm not even sure if it's good enough to get the WM.
Put it here
It gets flooded away...
and we will say
Okay.
Gretchen 105
, Pixelion 105
, Mr. Flaky 105

Have you lost that match cuz ur stun didn't land on charmless?
Worry no more. Cuz it will now land. Carefree
Level of runes?
6-7
You'll be fine
or 5-7
ye that should be fine
I am just gonna take my m dungeon and sweep xD
I didn't have a denier for thunder lol
ya can
I had two rares at times
I would use gelo
100% I can do it?
but it will become too ez
I had a harder time with metal on two floors with a denier lol
i will doit with
100%
shademoon and pixelion
Cool, what you think @unreal flume?
you can ofc
@unreal flume Lmao shademoon comes during the dungeon
but why would Sp do that
so I highly doubt you will hatch it in time
Some floors might have harsh restrictions or something and might take a try or two, but otherwise no issue
Can we expect Magic WM tommorow? When this rotation finishes, or will it be in a while?
I'm trying to scrounge 300 more for babari before he goes away lol, back to 0 after
You should see his thing show up when it's 23:59 hours until rotation changes
its a wm per month
unless they surprise us, that's how it's been with the new layout
so probs on jan
Oh ok.
either ways I an get it anytime
Everyone's gonna have the magic WM if it's after christmas
I have a question: If Elvira and Remntar are on the same team, and an enemy attacks your team while you have evasion and skill mirror, will the attack be mirrored?
Yes
Wow...
yess
Saucy.
I didn't think it would because the attack doesn't hit, but still it's kinda saucy
^
So I think less people wanted to get him with those bad skills we saw before.
I guess.
He's still my favourite along with Elvira though, if the opponents denier goes first then you'll end up going first after the reflection.
Thalassa is not that fun just OP, lol.
Don't regret rem, got him r1 at least
I like him a lot more then I initially did
^
Same
Like his moves and trait was underwhelming until I thought about it a bit more
Then I’ve came up with some unique strategies and he actually seems pretty good now
That precision is top notch
Yeah
Khihaku is gonna come back on track
^
? Why burg and rem
Burg has blood thirst
rem has aoe 50% stun
So many monsters that are gonna benefit
Yeah
I’m gonna be running Kihaku Magic WM and someone else on attack I think
Xiron and some others on defence
I’m gonna wait for AI improvements before my magic wm goes on defence as my faith in sp’s abilities to make sure AI knows about precision etc is kinda lacking rn
Guys I think SP should change the area Trait of the magic WM .....immune to CD activation is not that powerful
Meh it’s niche to him
Since he doesn’t have any 0cd skills
He’s fairly balanced atm, if they’re gonna change anything I’d opt for R1 skill
@lone shale I agree
Personally I’m gonna go for him
and his story lol
Either Him R1/R2 or Him R0/Elvira R0/???
if your monster are averagely 110
then r2
cause he gets cda
but i'd chose later option
This with magic wm is gonna be fun
sad...
@unreal flume you can just use his SG1 if you want cda lol
It is single in SG1
Nvm I can’t read
I don't think his trait will effect 50% moves, because that's 50% once the attack hits
So it will just be guarenteed to have a 50% chance
Yami didnt say so
It does

No, the attack is the status effect
It does no damage
It is
Where it says 90, that's accuracy
🤦
Winer😂
👀 50% isn't a trait tho
Cya
Actually turns out I can only get Magic WM to R1 max so Oof im going for Elvira and mayb barbari aswell
Babari🤔
Meh I can get him with the monsters I have
I don’t have enough legendarys at R1 for the others
Its not 50% extra
Remntar is better at 100 imo
Would go for him after Elvira
its double accuarcy
I only have patient cyber ranked in metal
^
Sherezar?
and id rather go for him than babari LOLOLOL
Could go for necromancy
majiko wm
no wonder he's so empty and wide mouthed
:SadCat:
I still think it'll be 50% chance to possess and freeze
He's so good ranked the Magic WM
But not worth it at 100 imo
😡
😩
🤔
I wonder how he looked before
you said that only so he can get buffs :weSmat:
same
he non emotions now
:weSmart:
or cares less for teamamtes
You are crumbling my chromosomes i have no clue what I'm arguing about now
weSmat?
he can talk but he is empty
he just does whatever he wants
really gotta go, even tho i wish i'd stay here
@dreamy rock why isn’t he worth it at R0?
His power increase is at R2 and R4 tho his SG3 are pretty good
cya for real now :SadCat:
:GWnekomakiWaveBOYE:
if all the wm's combined to defeat the titan
then whose that the strong titan
the mother titan
god titan?
There's 4 titans though
And they have 2 mil health well the WM each have a measly 40k ish
Yea but this one should be strong as hell to have all wm's fight it
nah chuck the recent titans
Its a new titan even confirmed
The mother Titan
They'd be immune to everything and have like 10 mil health at least
That would be scary
Sp00k
Panda Claus does it better than Magic WM's 105 skill
use him then
tho magic warmaster has more power on 100 than panda claus does at 130 
@echo sundial what are you talking about an aoe cda in sg1 can you explain it more clearly please!!
Hi what does curse do?
Removes 10% life and stamina in first turn, removes 20% life and stamina in second turn and removes 40% life and stamina in third turn
@noble coral I was wrong, however the magic wm still DOES NOT need a buff
He is completely fine as he is
You just want him to be op so you can abuse him
Yes
Group skill 4, 1st skill removes positive status effect to one ally. Applies one random positive status effect to one all.. this skill should need a change
It’s just his 105 skill that needs sorting out
Every wm people push for the one their going for to be stronger. But realistically the 105 skill is the only one not up to par
I don't think his trait is very good... Maybe if it stopped cooldowns deactivated on the other team as well, that would make him a bit better.
Is warmup a new feature
Warmup means Cooldowns right?
So like
You cant use charmless' extra turn skill till its had 1 or 2 turns to warm up
Wait
This is warmasters
My bad
@noble coral pls stop whining about him, his S4 skills are fine R1 aint great bit it is only R1
Ok
Who mad at magic warmaster :GWqlabsGarThink:
🤷♀️
Magics trait + 50% skills makes it 100%
yea
It is
Yess
It just means the 50% skill will hit...
Accuracy doubled
:GWactionSmolConcern:
Yeah it's 100% chance the move will hit, but still 50% chance it will apply the effect
^
^
The effect also an acc
No lol
Not effect accuracy
Its even the effect
Al Canine is better than magic WM
Guard down + CDA
No caninie is slower than magic wm
@echo sundial You'll see I guess...
Lol
That your wrong.
Your retarded
Think about it
and canine needs 2 moves to do CDA
Open your eyes
Cant use that word here ethier
While Magic WM has 2 deny skills
Lol, go waste your orbs on magic then, I don't mind.
Cool
which are top notch
@little berry He is better than remntar
what is magic trait
so obvio its a better choice
Al Canine can AOE guard down and CDA in one turn
Double accuracy and makes bulwark etc useless
Bulwark blocks effects, not damage. So true vision is intended towards effects
Ayy daddy demo here to spread the truth
Mainly cuz magic isnt out yet
He is :V
Ok then...
Why are you so biased
lol
And we are talking like we know him in game
You are
Look at his control skills
Wait for it's release. We don't know what sp means by doubled accuracy
@noble inlet yea but magic wm lovers are like 'omG irt s The bEST REeEeEe"
@cold sequoia @echo sundial and that other guy are all really biased cuz they saved for it
Just because you wanted magic to be OP and he isn’t doesn’t mean he isn’t good
I love the magic warmaster
He doesn't even have to use guard down thanks to true vision
Lol
Magic WM is not top 3 lol
Lol, Elvira and Remntar are better
@little berry your the only one says that btw lmao
Magic is good but not op like thalassa.
What am i bais against
I'm not.
Remntar skills are trash
What demo said
Liking him or not liking him?
Magic counters Thallassa but thalassa is overall better
^
how does magic counter thallassa
Precision doesnt boost 50% skills
He is faster
Cda and faster
I can't be bothered to argue with you people. 😂 You're so protective over magic because you prepped for it
and true vision
@noble inlet it isn’t precision it’s double accuracy
Precicion is accuracy boost though
@little berry and your protective about remntar cause you don't want him to become useless
:GWactionSmolConcern:
@little berry just because you can’t accept your wrong doesn’t make us protective
@cold sequoia I'm perfectly fine with Remntar not being liked by you because he's got me to L3
remntar is pretty good on defense
I use him on attack
@little berry ranked?
Gaurd down doesn't boost 50%
if their denier goes first then you win.
Nothing that effects accuracy effects 50% in the game
Magic WM doesn't need guard down he has true vision my god
That is what im going off of
how hard is it to understand
LOL
What happens if my skill mirror reflects into there skill mirror which reflects to mine
Yes
Double accuracy and removes bulwark and tough
Well well. Whenever i land on this channel i just find some ppls fighting about a monster who isn't in game yet
Theres nothing wrong in talking about upcoming details
no but
when ur only argument
There is if you're misleading people
is off some evidence
Like you are
thats not even
released
Talking is fine. But fighting?
@little berry So?
People argue if parallax methoed is a proper way or not
but we still use it
Double accuracy is going off of everything i know in game
so there's nothing wrong in discussing our present knowledge about the Magic WM
real stuff tho
your point is flawwed
flawed*
real stuff tho
even if magic wm is good
it still wont be used in high level :Dab:
It will pazza
and we can't even observe the presence of atoms
Thalassa sammy
@cold sequoia You need to go to school.
elvira
thalassa sammy some other war master
@little berry what?
Bad teams
thalassa and 2 other wm
:GWqlabsYaoLUL:
@little berry are you disabled or something
You are giving me a laugh but still, you need to look more into this, Guard down effexts 50% because every attack WILL HIT but true vision will not.
Because as a support, remntar can reflect if their denier goes first
its foreverything
D O U B L E A C C U R A C Y U N U T
@little berry you know all monsters have remove positive effect
there is no point
I'm getting magic as well it's just these people think he's a god
You've said he effects 50% moves tho, and he doesn't
Now pls stop bringing points to the extreme because your deluded brain can’t accept being wrong
He does you but
even then, he's not that great
Nut*
Wanna bet?
It doesnt double effect accuracy
Every monster is good paired with others tho
And it won't
That would be op
Think about it foe a sec
Screenshotted this FYI so I can claim money later
Who has insta kill skill?
Do u think he doubles that?
no
YOU DO REALIZE HOW BROKEn
DOUBLE ACC IS?
I agree double accuracy is busted
😂 YES THAT WILL MEAN THE MOVE HITS BUT THE 50% IS AFTER THE MOVE HITS
@echo sundial Can we finalise this bet?
Please.
It already is finalised you neglected as a child nut
50% is fibal
They may make it 50%. Just like with Zahra's Double Life ending up being 50%.
I SSd
Cool
@echo sundial you do realize that if it was double acc then an ouros can solo teams
But that’s the thing, that basically means Buro will never miss
Also cool
😂 You need more psychologists
50% skills are different
Even when he bloodthirstys. He has a really low chance of missing when that trait is with him
They have a chance to attack then the effect is afterwards
@echo sundial you will need to edit that word
They basically have 2 accuracys
Everyone OK in here?
The chance of hitting
Oh no Helen is here
And the chance of landing
No helen
Ppls are fighting
Helen 😀 😃
No one is fighting that the heck @winter surge
For something which is not in game
Some heated debating
D O U B L E A C C U R A C Y
It got really heated
I’m just checking you all 🕵🏻♀️
For a second
@echo sundial This person needs help
Double move accuracy
lol wot
👍
Look at precision
In game
Makes sense
Where does precision say double effect accuracy
It’s not precision it’s D O U B L E A C C U R A C Y
Well your a nice person then aren't you.
👍
I think we have had enough of the capitals now.
I just come on to see D O U B L E A C C U R A C Y everywhere. Yh I agree
What does precision do
d o u b l e a c c u r a c y
We get it. Double Accuracy
Precision boosts accuracy
d o u b l e a c c u r a c y
And what does double accuracy do
All of a sudden 50% skills dont have a 75% of landing
With precision
Thats what is going on here
Yeah thats what in sasying
It’ll have been busted if it did
Oh my
It probably won't
@echo sundial I have just be reading back. Remove that word at once.
lololol
You have been on this Server long enough to know that you cannot use that word.
His true vision affects effects, since it bypasses traits
Why would it bypass traits for damage only?!?!?
Whitebeard
Ihan really 
Well Helen, not her bad
Those people are spamming for nothing
Is her bad
They deserve a mute
Even if its not double for effects
So 100% effect wont miss
but still.

okay
@unreal flume It is her bad. She knows the Rules.
Yeah it's probably a 90/95/120/200% precision to skills.
But just cause it isnt in the rules, does not mean you can do it
Like those people commenting on leaked only warmaster
just cause they want it to be better
they confuse devs also, and are boring
And 42 to 84%
they are not even argumenting
Can we keep this to the actual meaning of the channel. Please.

Oops
The problem is these kids with their biased opinion
Uh
Deadbush ^^^^
Magic warmaster doubles accuracy
they try undermining the other WM's to prove they have the best WM
but in reality its a no
Im talking warmasters phew
Anyone going for magic warmaster?
Many people
trust me, even those who complain will go for him
I have like 2k orbs. Need more 300 until he comes out
you have these old warmaster cult people constantly trash talking the new ones
^
I was getting him whether bad or not
just like gen wunners in pokemons
Same vic. Cuz x rune
2 x runes
I was getting him anyways I need the blessing
and he has nice design
He's the type that you will like if you keep seeing him
He looks like Genie's dad lol

and the fact that kid said AL canine is better than the magic WM's is such a flawed point
I am getting salty mb
I shall stop
😂
Its not finalized though
Yea but that doesn't mean you can't deny that the monster is pretty good with the available Details
Yeah
Im saying that though cuz
I read back
And she said it was finalized so
Idk
@cold sequoia ok u win
U called it that Magic WM would be good
So I lost the bet 😂
lol
I would even try r1 but my gem status nicht gut
Lol Necromancer reseructed sherezar 😁
Necromancer really a good guy. Too bad Sherezars trait isn't 2 Turn DCD, then gets resurrected the turn after
Like I said on the forums, I like his trait, stats and the fact that we're not getting another Thalassa, but really expected more from the last WM, especially in an element which is littered with good deniers...
? Her trait is awesome
His trait is awesome it gives double accuracy of the skills and the skills that are 50% it will be doubled with True Vision 😃
But John, how so? By that "more" do you mean his rank up 1 skill?
:DrakeYea: :SadCat:
i mean he is not that much of denier at 105-, but he has cda no damage, and random control and torture skill which are guaranteed to hit
and that all effects clearing with extra turn is great
not to forget curse, he can give a lot of damage even with no str runes
I shan't. You're right. Shademoon is wayyy cheaper, wayyy cooler and in a fight, Sherezar vs Shademoon, the magic Warmaster is gonna be mostly unable to harm him xD
If you saved your gems Shademoon is $0
Your whole team has to save ***
Which is practically impossible
unless its a cult lol
Shademoon is easy to get with r0
But really hard for 50 laps
Yep
Yami trolling, you get 2 x runes, 50 elementium, 1000 gems (about enough to get shademoon) and 2 exlcusive relics, which are usually pretty strong
all along with 130 Sherezar :WeSmart:
Its way easier to get 130 shademoon than 130 sherezar. A lot less gems and only 80 elementium needed, the rest can be magic cells obtained from breedables.
For r4-r5 of course
shademoon would have been a sick wm design
I’m having doubts about magic wm and if I should get him,
I’ve looked at my monsters and elementium I currently have and I can get:
Necromancer
Barbari
Magic WM
Elvira
I should have 6k orbs ish by Christmas soo who do you guys think I should get
everyone except babari
Necromancer R1
Barbari R2
Magic WM R1
Elvira R0
^ Based off my monsters levels not total orbs
That’s what I could get
And I could get Rem R0
I could but Nec has no revives at R0 tho right ?
If I get Rem I can’t get Elvira vice versa
Yeah
and if you have 6000 orbs, its almost 3 wms
Necro r2
Can’t get Nec R2
Otherwise it's not worth it
R1 necro is extra turn only
I thought so
r2 necro is massive at lower levels
I’m in L4 atm
Heck I abuse my r2 necro
Which I guess is low to some
get em for books :weSmart:
Necro peaks a r2
I'm using him against all the elite players, winning pvp, wars attacks and getting defence wins
Nice
Maybe go for elvira r0
I assume Elvira is a must
- magic wm
^
R0 for now I assume since magic r1 is oof
Can’t get rem if I get Elvira ahaha
r1 remntar is not so bad
If you're playing around the lower levels 100 - 115 ish then Go for Elvira
i mean double anticipation :weSmart:
And Necro once you can get him r2
Kk
Yami, ranked in preseason :SadCat:
Flex
Most my monsters are 100-115 tho I’m winning against 115-130s due to my xiron
I haven't touched flex queue in a while
So I'm still plat
Need to bring that back up to diamond
What game?
Hover my name in the right hand side
I’m on mobile atm
Oooh
Oh league
Yeh
Ah nice
What other warmasters you considering ?
Necromancer R1
Barbari R2
Magic WM R1
Elvira R0
Is what I can get rn
Like with my current monsters
and how many orbs you got
Almost 6k
ok yami :DrakeYea:
I’d probs be able to get 3 R0s
Cuz if I’m just a bit off I’ll spend some Christmas monies
Yeah go for 3 r0's
yes :DrakeYeax3:
Who doe
i am getting all wms r0 for book first, nicu rewards, and then r1
cause me non rank4 monsters, i does not even matter...
Babari Elvira Sherezar
Is Barbari definitely work it 😂
He's pretty solid if you don't have faraday
^
I really like him but mine is ranked up so it's a little hard to judge
😂
Who's your go to thunder atm ?
lol
Lights my weakest tho I can get taiga R1, Ingvars Pet/BG R1 and then get rank up semeragl or whatever the epics called for Elvira
Actually I might be able to get Rem and Elvira 😀
If your thunder is looking like that a r0 Babari doesn't seem like he'll be much use to you
Yeah I guess
Agreed yami
I might get Rem instead, since I can make ultrabot and rank him up to 105-110 and I already have the metal team race dude and then I can just get an epic
Yeah I have a R1 Pyrotech sat in my inbox just waiting
Ingvars Pet or bg
How many orbs to go from R1 to R2?
3500
