monster-discussion

[unreal flume]

yeah, but no use of them...

[wide python]

i dont know if im going to use himor not

[mortal bay]

Damn right I'm getting him

Metal cells to max out my Talos

2 new diamond relics

yummy

Not to mention a whole warmaster, can't forget about that

[wide python]

well mine only be rank0 😜

[mortal bay]

Enjoy the x rune :3

[unreal flume]

[ionic tinsel]

Really Yami....

[wide python]

I will I think I calculated ones if you buy 2300 orbs only on sale it will cost about 820ish gems for tthis you get a WM a level 10 rune and lots element cells and some elementium

[unreal flume]

yes

count it as orbs and elements cells and elementium, cause if you get bad wm who you aint gonna use, then why count him?
and you need 80 cells for elemental cells :sadcat:

[wide python]

I probably am going to use him

tbg he will be great

[ionic tinsel]

Definitely underrated

His ranked skills are nice

[wide python]

for a lvl 100 monster there are except for a view there isnt much use

[unreal flume]

underrated wait what please just stop it.
i said it 100 times, there is nothing you can do with 20% stamina
and even with 50% shield, burothor 110 with 2 level 6 strenthg can oneshot him with his bestial charge move

[ionic tinsel]

Ranked up skills super nice

[unreal flume]

yeah, everythings is nice when you pay :wesmart:
why would you buy him for 500 600$ when you can do who knows what with that money in ML

[ionic tinsel]

But Thalassa

Buy

[unreal flume]

i wont, no moni

if i had, if do so when it still was hger blessing

[kind crane]

You do it when you’ve got everything else

And it really ain’t that expensive

[unreal flume]

🤔

[crystal vigil]

"even with 50% shield, burotgor 110 with 2 level 6 str can one shot with bestial charge" keep dreaming

If we exclude the shield, a 110 buro with 2 level 6 str can't even one shot level 100 remntar with his strongest move(bestial hits)

[ionic tinsel]

Yeah lol

[unreal flume]

Dori i tho whenhe has bloodthirsty sorry 😂

[robust basin]

Why the monsters available alongside wm dungeon for help are not available? I wanted to buy al canine to get it R1 to get Elvira ;-;

[cold sequoia]

I am going for magic

Remntar can wait

[kind crane]

I’d laugh so much if magic sucks 😂😂

Everyone been saving for months for it and it’ll turn out some ugly little thing with crap skills

[cold sequoia]

I would then go for a ranked thalassa 😂

[kind crane]

All the wm blessing passed up

[cold sequoia]

I already got her floor 1 blessings

I was planning to rank my Warmaster after all of them are released

But I have my hopes high for the magic WM ...

the metal didn't impress me

[kind crane]

So does everyone else apparently

Don’t think that’s end skills tho. I’d imagine a couple of tweaks

[little berry]

Metal WM sets low standards for the magic WM I guess.

🤔

[cold sequoia]

Welp all the OPness went to elvira and thalassa

If they are going to make any changes

It should be today

or SP will be off for the weekend

Self skill mirror and taunt would make metal warmaster the best

[unreal flume]

they wont, cause no one complains lololol
and so many players are saying they'll go for him

[ionic tinsel]

A lot of people are complaining

[unreal flume]

:GWlulurdwaitwhat:

[robust basin]

I would go for magic no matter what as it will be last blessing

[cold sequoia]

That makes no difference

[unreal flume]

i already waster 200 ele for this one :(
i am gonna name him Zahra better and give him gold runes

and post that pic on forum
maybe they change something

[cold sequoia]

I mean there is a chance for the last min change likes Zahra's turn transfer

[unreal flume]

actually, i just noticed cain's skills are mostly less than 28 :DrakeYea:

so, after all, if he works well, i might, might change ma mind

[cold sequoia]

REMNTAR IS SO OPPPP

OH MY GOD

HIS UPDATED TRAIT IS SICK

But lets wait for his skills

[kind crane]

What’s his updated trait?

[cold sequoia]

100% special protected

1t skill mirror

[merry basin]

shhhhh

[kind crane]

Eh

[cold sequoia]

@merry basin Its in game

[little berry]

Wait what?

[cold sequoia]

so its not longer a leak

[merry basin]

shhhhh

[cold sequoia]

Ok lol

[little berry]

😤 👍

[misty elm]

So you can't attack the team with Special attacks?

I mean the element, not the Ultimates

Oh and 🤐

[gusty siren]

where you see this updated trait?

[kind crane]

He said it’s in game

[gusty siren]

its not tho

[kind crane]

Rip

[misty elm]

Checking it right now

[kind crane]

Not in monstergram?

[gusty siren]

nah

[kind crane]

Hahaha

I’d laugh if he made it up and it ain’t true 😂

[gusty siren]

oh wait yeah it is

[kind crane]

🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

One job Tek

[misty elm]

It's ingame.

[gusty siren]

lol i had to refresh game

shhhh

[misty elm]

🤐

[kind crane]

Hahahaha

What a rookie

Don’t they teach you that in PoF camp

[misty elm]

Isn't complete immunity for the whole battle a little bit broken? 🤐

[mortal bay]

Looks like my optimism paid off

[kind crane]

Yami you slip em a fiver so they’d prove you right?

[tame beacon]

Haha. It's almost like as I said, things may change between T and release. Even between Monstagram and actual release 😃

[misty elm]

It did happen with Zahra

[mortal bay]

I gave them much more than a fiver, knees are a bit sore now though

[tame beacon]

Maybe I'll get him now. Might be worth it at level 100

[little berry]

Goddamn

What is his skills tho

[kind crane]

There goes ya dignity and self respect ey, worth it surely

[misty elm]

Why did I read "liver"? 😄

[tame beacon]

Yami is a real team player

[mortal bay]

I'm tempted to say he's gonna be the 4th best Warmaster, maybe even 3rd

[kind crane]

What’s your ranking for top then?

Out of pure curiosity

[mortal bay]

Thalassa

Elvira

Necro

Babari

Gortak

Zahra

[kind crane]

This maxed I assume?

[mortal bay]

Barbael

Yh

[kind crane]

Did I interrupt ya list

[mortal bay]

At 130

Barbael deserves to be a whole message lower anyway

[misty elm]

😄

[kind crane]

Hahaha true enough

I’m surprised Necro is that high tbh

[misty elm]

He's pretty good

[tame beacon]

Hit me with a list at level 100 Yami 😂

[kind crane]

His AI makes him suck

[mortal bay]

He's just so damn consistent

At 100:

[misty elm]

He has the best resurrection skills in the game

[kind crane]

Elvira woop woop

His AI is unquestionably bad tho. I’ve killed so many 130 in pvp

[misty elm]

Yeah, spamming extra-turns forever

[mortal bay]

Elvira, Necro, Gortak, Thalassa, Babari, Barbael, Zahra

Maybe

I'm not too sure about my level 100 tier list

[tame beacon]

Remntar still about 3rd?

[kind crane]

I’d say he’s better than Necro at 100

[mortal bay]

Remntar might be 2nd best at 100

[misty elm]

Remntar's skills are okay. Don't want another Thalassa.

[kind crane]

That wavelength we be sharing Yami

At 100 it’s all about the trait

[cinder geyser]

Let's don't forget that remntar is better than Elvira and thalassa in one thing

[tame beacon]

Noice. I might grab then, my metal isn't exactly strong

And I can't get Elvira yet lol

[kind crane]

My metal is strong. My magic sucks. So torn about what to do

[mortal bay]

His average skills and his amazing trait balance out to a really good monster

[cold sequoia]

It depends

[mortal bay]

His relic slots are amazing too

[cold sequoia]

if Warmaster remntar

[kind crane]

What are they?

[misty elm]

Yeah, banner is rare

[cold sequoia]

beats necro in skills

he is def the best

[tame beacon]

Banner/Shield

[cold sequoia]

But then again

[misty elm]

No, but shhh 😄

[cold sequoia]

They made the trait OP

[mortal bay]

No, skills haven't changed

[kind crane]

Eh banner sucks unless it’s a diamond one

[cold sequoia]

so I am assuming the skill to be decent

[tame beacon]

No news yet Zizoooo but i wouldn't be surprised if they stay the same

[cold sequoia]

and not thallassa level OP

[mortal bay]

Charging banner, Ingvars banner and Talikas banner

3 good banners right there

Vitality is decent too

[misty elm]

He'll be released soon and here comes the weekend. I doubt they'll change the skills.

[mortal bay]

Saturday release date

I expect

[kind crane]

Eh

[cold sequoia]

Its tomorrow

[mortal bay]

Yh

[misty elm]

Soon = Tomorrow then 😄

[cold sequoia]

I would say next week is better for remntar release

[kind crane]

Do I get metal and magic at 100 or magic to 105

That is the question

[cold sequoia]

Magic is last

[cold sequoia]

so they will obviously give it their all

[misty elm]

But he looks more water to me than metal (tentacles)

[tame beacon]

My biggest issue is he's not a looker 😂

[cold sequoia]

He might be made up of gallium or mercury

you never know

[misty elm]

Well, he won't be a fitness world champ 😄

[kind crane]

Rude Sonnor. Some of us just ain’t blessed 😂

[mortal bay]

Speak for yourself Luke ;)

[cold sequoia]

@misty elm He's faster than light

[misty elm]

And yet he's chubby

[kind crane]

Little chub keeps ya warm at night

Yami 😂😂

Who knew hounds were funny ey

[mortal bay]

There's always a few anomalies

[misty elm]

Also, Barbael is faster, so he's the Millenium Falcon 😄

[kind crane]

Shame barbael is below par

[cold sequoia]

true

[misty elm]

But at least Barbael can damage him with Special attacks (trait disable)

Wouldn't help him too much, though

[cold sequoia]

Barbael vs Remntar

They have same body shape

a weapon and shield

[misty elm]

Nah, Barbael is more muscular.

But lemme check

[ionic tinsel]

Just when I was hoping they wouldn’t release something groundbreaking why not destroy all meta

[cold sequoia]

What do you mean?

He is still is pretty vulnerable to remove positive effects and trait disable

[misty elm]

Every monster is vulnerable to that (except Neobuki)

[cold sequoia]

Remntar will make 0 Changes to meta

[mortal bay]

He'll replace a few monsters in pvp

And he'll be the go to metal monster for wars

[cold sequoia]

well his skills are worse than Zahra

so...

[kind crane]

His trait carries

[mortal bay]

No way, his skills are good

[kind crane]

At 130*

[mortal bay]

Even at just r1

[cold sequoia]

His trait is 10/10

His skills

very very

[kind crane]

Reckon I should get this one to 105 then Yami?

[cold sequoia]

questionable

[mortal bay]

Yeah

3509 speed

[cold sequoia]

No..

[mortal bay]

Plus skill mirror

[cold sequoia]

He does not have any good move at r1

[mortal bay]

Plus anticipation to an ally and himself

[cold sequoia]

maybe the anticipation

@mortal bay Only one ally

[mortal bay]

Just so you know

[cold sequoia]

not himself

[mortal bay]

You do know what skill mirror does right ?

[kind crane]

What’s the 105 skill?

[cold sequoia]

yes

reflects skill

[kind crane]

The anticipation one?

[cold sequoia]

ye

[mortal bay]

Anticipation, damage boost and precision to 1 ally

Add in his skill mirror status caster, and he gets it too

[cold sequoia]

a turn transfer would have changed my opinion

[mortal bay]

A turn transfer would have been broken

[kind crane]

Might just settle for it 100 and save for 105 magic

[cold sequoia]

@mortal bay He gets it at r4 lol

No matter what you do

he won't be thallassa level broken

[mortal bay]

Light tamer is his r1 skill

You guys need to stop using Thalassa as a comparison

It's stupid

[little berry]

I don't see any point on comparing WMs at rank 5
They highest rank most of free to play players can get is rank 2

[cold sequoia]

She is a warmaster...

If a warmaster can be that level OP

[mortal bay]

Thalassa is no Warmaster

She's busted

[cold sequoia]

then so can every other monster

warmaster*

[misty elm]

Thalassa is The Master of War

[cold sequoia]

thalassa currently has the throne of strongest monster

[mortal bay]

Thalassa is beyond broken and shouldn't be used to compare other monsters

[cold sequoia]

just knocked sammy and elvira

[little berry]

So you will start the battle with skill mirror with Remntar?

[cold sequoia]

@mortal bay well you can just give one WM area anticipation for 2 turn

and thalassa is no longer broken

yes

for 1 turn only

[little berry]

Good enough

[mortal bay]

Area anticipation is broken too

[little berry]

With Elvira they make An op team

[cold sequoia]

No not always

[mortal bay]

You can't balance broken stuff with more broken stuff

[misty elm]

Anticipation can be dealt with.

[mortal bay]

Anticipation is the best trait in the game

[cold sequoia]

@mortal bay thats what they did with elvira

[little berry]

Bruh

Bulwark is

[ionic tinsel]

Anticipation is not, necro strait is

[cold sequoia]

Warmaster Elvira is the best trait

[little berry]

Yeah necro is straight

[cold sequoia]

and then remntar

[ionic tinsel]

Possession immunity plus anticipation

[misty elm]

Plus Tough

[ionic tinsel]

Yeah @mortal bay what ya gotta say about anticipation being best now

[mortal bay]

That's it is still the best

...

[ionic tinsel]

It’s not

Necromancer had better trait

[misty elm]

Also only Tijen has Anticipation only in her trait.

[ionic tinsel]

Has

[cold sequoia]

faraday

[mortal bay]

Necro has multiple traits

[little berry]

Sting wastclaw

[misty elm]

Faraday is Tough + Anticipation

Sting is Hardened + Anticipation

[little berry]

^

[cold sequoia]

anticipation is by far the best solo trait

[little berry]

Does revira and warspellz count?

[cold sequoia]

Followed by immune to control

[misty elm]

Revira?

[little berry]

They have skills that give anticipation

[misty elm]

That's not in the trait

[little berry]

Oh ok

[cold sequoia]

magic wm area immune to control

[misty elm]

Oh and Belbreath has 3 turns Self-Anticipation as a Status Caster and Tough

[cold sequoia]

a status caster for herself

such a selfish bird

[misty elm]

Bird-Cat-Butterfly 😄

[ionic tinsel]

I say evasion is best trait

[cold sequoia]

Its a status caster

[mortal bay]

Evasion as a trait is fundamentally broken as well

Evasion isn't a trait

And it will never be a trait

[misty elm]

Speaking of Evasion what runes should I give Elvira? ?

[mortal bay]

You can't trait disable someone if evasion is their trait

[ionic tinsel]

I keep forgetting it’s status caster

[misty elm]

Technically it's in her trait

[marsh shoal]

Hi, very interesting messages. We have been reading them, and listened.

[mortal bay]

[marsh shoal]

I'm sharing with you the final version of Remntar:

From the Tleaks, only one skills has been modified.

[mortal bay]

This is amazing

You're the best Hackster

[marsh shoal]

Grinding Stones, does 70 dmg instead of 50

[mortal bay]

[marsh shoal]

😃

[icy cipher]

Thanks Hackster 😁

[unreal flume]

Ah...

[tame beacon]

I'll probably get him then!

[unreal flume]

:GWlulurdWaitWhat:

Isbt only r2 skill chabged?

[tame beacon]

Have you not seen? Trait change. 100% special damage immunity. And Skill Mirror status caster

[unreal flume]

Oh

OH

MY GOF

naicu

Hackster 😍 😍 😍 😍

Thanks a lot

And all sp

Dunno what to say

[tame beacon]

Maybe "Huh sonnor you were right, things CAN change before release" 😉

[unreal flume]

Lolololl

:GWomoDrakeYea: :GWomoDrakeYea: :GWomoDrakeYea:

[mortal bay]

:GWqlabsMonkaSs:

:GWqlabsKek:

[cold sequoia]

Nice

His anticipation is double damg

pretty decent move

[mortal bay]

I can't wait to ruin Thalassa in pvp

[unreal flume]

Eh remntar gud gud now

Im so happy

I can dai now

@mortal bay he better than babari and gortak now? :GWqlabsKek:

[mortal bay]

I'd say so

Yh

On par with Necro

If not better

I'll judge properly once I get him and test him out

[unreal flume]

:GWomoDrakeYea:

[little berry]

He's actually what I wanted now. Another iconic monster for an element.

[unreal flume]

:GWomoDrakeYea:

[versed kayak]

Wow, thanks hackster, will get him 😃

[unreal flume]

Same

[tame beacon]

Question is... R1 Remntar or R0 Remntar + R0 Elvira 🤔

Probably the latter

[unreal flume]

Eembtar und elvira

:GWfroggyWeSmart:

Remntar*

[little berry]

The only good Remntar is a nonexistent Remntar

[unreal flume]

:GWlulurdWaitWhat: :GWlulurdWaitWhat: :GWlulurdWaitWhat: :GWlulurdWaitWhat:

[crystal vigil]

:GWunuDrakeNo:

[little berry]

Oof

Now Babari’s getting thrown to the curb

[cold sequoia]

ahhhh

I don't think Remnter will be on par with necro

[polar valve]

Remntar got a new trait...

[cold sequoia]

Ye

But his skills are mediocore

He truly shines at r1

[little berry]

Doesn’t need great skills. His trait is enough.

[polar valve]

what is his r1 skill?

[cold sequoia]

anticipation

dble damh

and precision

[little berry]

I think he's nicely balanced.

Not to mention it completely outclassed Babari.

3rd best WM?

[polar valve]

wow

[little berry]

Behind Elvira and thalassass

[marsh shoal]

No no, no Double DAmage in his Anticipation , "only" Damage Increase

[cold sequoia]

@gusty siren Babari does have that pretty sick trait disable

[little berry]

Oof wrong ping

Oh right, 50% increase

[marsh shoal]

Light Tamer gives Damage Increse

[cold sequoia]

oh nvm then

[little berry]

Ok, thanks Hackster, if you helped with the changes

He does, but either way Babari’s status caster was his selling point. I don’t see much use for Babari outside of his element/books now.

[cold sequoia]

Though I would say he is equal to necro

but lets see

[little berry]

Before he had no real role to play

Yeah possibly equal

[cold sequoia]

He's suppose to be an extra turn attacker

I rlly love his extra moves

[little berry]

Still Elvira and Thalassa OP but I like the Metal WM now

Another unique WM

[cold sequoia]

A cooldown activated on the metal WM would be sick instead of the control immuniity

[little berry]

He really isn’t though. His damage output isn’t that great, he can’t cycle his attacks, and they’re all pretty bland outside of his R4 skill.

It would actually. 🤔

[cold sequoia]

we are yet to get a stamina/ CDA wm

[unreal flume]

Smag

Ya trying to get remntar nerfed :GWlulurdWaitWhat: :GWlulurdWaitWhat: :GWlulurdWaitWhat: :GWlulurdWaitWhat: :GWlulurdWaitWhat:

[little berry]

Cause outclassing Babari wasn’t the way to buff him.

[unreal flume]

No

[cold sequoia]

No no

lets buff him

not nerf

CDA on him

lez go

[unreal flume]

Babari still gud

[little berry]

It's better the way he is now... Before he had literally no use

[mortal bay]

Babari isn't outclassed by Remntar

[unreal flume]

Babari still gud

[little berry]

^

[unreal flume]

^

[little berry]

It’s a slight on everyone who spent their orbs on him, I wouldn’t have gotten Babari had Remntar been in game. He’s still good, but Remntar does him but better.

Not really

[unreal flume]

:GWlulurdWaitWhat: :GWlulurdWaitWhat:

Maybe at 100

[little berry]

Babari kinda did the same to Zahra with his trait though so oof.

Babari's ranked skills are better

[polar valve]

can any dev or mod say anything about magic wm release date?

[little berry]

And it's easier to get ranked babari

[mortal bay]

January

[little berry]

January seems about right.

[cold sequoia]

On new year

I am expectation

is

DESTROYING THALASSA

[little berry]

🤔

Babari’s ranked skills are pretty bland until R4. I’d have to collect for a long time to get him at R4, and at that point I’d rather just rank another WM and get Remntar at 100.

[cold sequoia]

Someone needs to knock her out of the throne of strongest monster

[polar valve]

that is fully assumptive answer

[mortal bay]

Well it's not coming out this month

[little berry]

It's not going to be like y'all think... 😂 1000 AOE damage 100% accuracy skills group 1

[mortal bay]

And it doesn't take 2 months

[cold sequoia]

@gusty siren axe and chains remove positive effect does gamg and gives extra turn

[gilded coyote]

Remntar doesn't outclass Babari at all

[mortal bay]

You're @ ing the wrong person

[little berry]

Oof

[polar valve]

r/whooosh

[cold sequoia]

MY GOD

WHY DO YOU GUYS HAVE SAME NAMES

[little berry]

Use @little berry :SmolConcern:

[cold sequoia]

its so hard

[polar valve]

lol

[mortal bay]

If you're on mobile click their profile pic to @ them

If on pc, copy paste their name

[cold sequoia]

Yea but babari has that lit double shock move in r0

so I say he's good

He's good at his job

[little berry]

Wot

[marsh shoal]

They are different monsters. TOgether are amazing.

[mortal bay]

Hackster is riding the wave I see

[marsh shoal]

Yes. I'm totally on your boat. I would love players experiment with different skills

[gilded coyote]

I'm very interested in running them together, just not maybe interested enough to get rem right now

[unreal flume]

:GWfroggyWeSmart:

[cold sequoia]

No

he has special immune

babari has damg mirror

they don't go together 😂

[mortal bay]

They do

[cold sequoia]

Explain?

[mortal bay]

They cover more angles that way

Otherwise you're relying on 1 scenario

Together they cover multiple

[gilded coyote]

Remntar has skill mirror now and with both of those good luck dealing damage, and if you do you'll be punished for it

[cold sequoia]

The special immune is a perm trait

[mortal bay]

Yes

[cold sequoia]

Point

but then again you have those pesty thalassa

[gilded coyote]

Then again run Neobuki as your third and you have someone who guaranteed will be reflecting the whole time

[marsh shoal]

We added Neobuki n the Test Battle. Just wow.

[misty elm]

And she has taunt

[marsh shoal]

You'll be able to test those two together.

[mortal bay]

[marsh shoal]

WM Remntar + Neobuki + Gelotron VS Warthak + Faraday + Elvira

[cold sequoia]

Elvira for the nanovirus I assume

But why faraday

[misty elm]

Neobuki has an extra-turn skill, but other than that I don't understand

We'll see 😉

[mortal bay]

Special damage I guess

[little berry]

After a long time of thinking
Remntar's trait is actually worth it

And if you pair him with Elvira you have an unstoppable team

[cold sequoia]

Very true

[polar valve]

there is no such thing

[cold sequoia]

but Just thinking about samuel

[misty elm]

Won't Evasion counter Skill Mirror?

[cold sequoia]

He can just pesti and remove everything

Oh yes it would

But I think the atks will get refleced even If missed

[little berry]

No
Evasion will block attacks
And skill mirror will reflect it

[misty elm]

Because you can't reflect back if you didn't get hit with it.

[lapis current]

what is the award

[misty elm]

I'll test it out with Elvira and Timerion once she's hatched

[little berry]

But yeah samael can counter this team
Baba aga too

[lapis current]

for new warmasters

for finishing each level

[misty elm]

I guess the same, X runes mostly

[lapis current]

for stage 1 and 2?

[little berry]

^

Yes

[lapis current]

so 2x runes

?

[little berry]

No

[lapis current]

1?

[little berry]

Floor one don't have any rewards

[lapis current]

ah fairs

[little berry]

Only floor 2

[lapis current]

so 1 lvl 10 rune

1 new wm

and some metal cells

[little berry]

Yes if you did the spins

[lapis current]

is that worth?

[polar valve]

yup

the rune itself costs 345 gems at best

[lapis current]

gotta start ranking up dem metals

i need timerion to pop up in the stalll

den i can rank him to 3

[little berry]

Hmmm I can't tell yah
Just pick up the WM that you think is the best for you

[lapis current]

im midway thru elvira

[little berry]

Cool
Elvira is a good warmaster ;)

[cold sequoia]

Ye we know

[little berry]

Lmao I am just saying it

[lapis current]

is it worth rank 1 though?

[polar valve]

can you get enough orbs for magic wm in case you want it?

[lapis current]

i have around 1k now

but i buy orbs everytime at the discount

the first 2

[faint beacon]

Lol what

[wide python]

?

[faint beacon]

Name

[worthy scroll]

I'm getting him for sure!

the fixes to metal one made him great

that trait

Thanks for doing that, I'll try to get him rank 5 now

[cold sequoia]

Rank 5?

thats a lot of orbs

I am kinda sad that we are approaching the end of warmaster ...

[worthy scroll]

yeah but I need the diamond relics also, and want one at rank 5, need to boost that pvp defense

Hopes it comes with a tenacity shield

[mortal bay]

It doesn't

Comes with Fulmens shield

And Talikas banner

Talika's Banner

At start of battle increase life of all allies by x amount until end of the battle

1 use Fulmen’s Shield

At start of the wearer's turn, if an ally is controlled they receive x amount of shield

3 uses

[worthy scroll]

Hmmmmm

well, I'll get those then

[tame beacon]

@mortal bay Got the amounts. Talikas banner is 14560-48320 Life. Fulmen Shield is 9195-31340 Shield. So basically a multi-use way more situational Tenacity

[mortal bay]

Awesome banner

Still prefer tenacity tho

[worthy scroll]

yeah the banner is pretty good

and rather have tenacity, having the shield from the start is better IMHO

[tame beacon]

Yeh the banner is like having 2 free X Team Life runes when your monsters are level 130.

[little berry]

Is his trait really worth it?

Some attackers have special attacks but...

[misty elm]

Looks like Grinding Stones is buffed to 70 base power, instead of 50.

[little berry]

I guess he will reflect CD activate.. So his status caster is pretty good in metal wars

[tame beacon]

Skill Mirror is a great status caster, and blocking all damage from special attacks is a decent side effect. In Metal wars, it means any metal monster will hit for at most 0.5x damage

[little berry]

Oh ryt

[tame beacon]

Yeh they'll have to choose from 0% special, or 50% metal. So it's very useful 😃

[misty elm]

Flamerion says hello 😄

[little berry]

Oof

Is the special protection area or only for him?

[misty elm]

Area

[little berry]

Oh nice

Flamrrion has 80 dmg fire attack lol

[misty elm]

And yes, he does reflect CDA

[little berry]

Magnetize intensifies :FeelFunnyMan:

[misty elm]

And another fire aoe which makes the enemy weak to fire attacks

[mortal bay]

Lots of attackers rely on special moves

[little berry]

^

[mortal bay]

Taking away roughly half of their damage output is huge

[misty elm]

There's also Roxen Cox with Fire attacks

[little berry]

Like Cain.

It’s his actual trait too so you can’t remove it with remove positive effects huh?

[misty elm]

Yep

You can remove the Skill Mirror, but not the speical protection

[little berry]

Nice

[misty elm]

Unless you disable his trait

[little berry]

Remntar is a solid WM I guess.

He should be a really good defense monster

What if you get aoe possessed in the first turn?

[misty elm]

Good question

[mortal bay]

Then you're in trouble

[misty elm]

So Hackster'll be a very good counter to him

[little berry]

Him and Necro paired :DrakeYea:

[mortal bay]

Yep

Unless you have him r3

For control immunity

[little berry]

Hackster has a terribly accurate aoe

[misty elm]

It almost always hits for me

Especially with the new changes of status effects being 100% accurate

[little berry]

I am confusion. Don't Remntar's traits apply at the start of the battle before any turns?

[mortal bay]

Terribly accurate is a good thing btw

[misty elm]

The Skill Mirror does, yes

The other is permanent

Also, hi confusion 😄

[little berry]

Basically the status caster is going to convert a normal aoe possession into a double aoe possession. (Like countess flawless)

[misty elm]

Technically yes

[little berry]

Oof

😂 Hi

[mortal bay]

Pair him with Necro ;)

[little berry]

Which means that possession will always work u less you have necro as a pair or elvira (which is not possible always)

[misty elm]

He's Tough so not always

[little berry]

You could use Jazzy with him too

[misty elm]

Yep, he's immune to all kinds of poessession

Cain too

[little berry]

How can hackster be a counter, wouldn't it reflect

Non

[tame beacon]

It'll reflect it back on itself lol

[misty elm]

Yes

[little berry]

remmntar will almost always get possessed due to skill mirror eh(or both his allies need possession immunity or some seriously tough trait like bulwark)

[misty elm]

Skill Mirror works on Artifacts, though.

[little berry]

Hmm true

I do not understand. Why doesn't skill mirror reflect possesion?

The skill mirror at the beginning of the battle^

[tame beacon]

Skill mirror reflects the skill on to the enemy. When you're possessed, the enemy becomes your allies

[little berry]

Still can't get my head around it.

[misty elm]

Try it ingame

[little berry]

I'll watch some videos.

[worthy scroll]

is the same when an igursus has vesuvius and you possess him

[misty elm]

Yes, he destroys his own team with the attack you used on him

[worthy scroll]

question is if this skill mirror will be applied to artifacts

mirror mirror from timmy works, not sure about this one

if it does, then it will work amazing with some extra turn monsters like Flamerion also for metal wars

[little berry]

So if a monster AOE possesses your team at the start of the battle, it possesses both yours and their team, correct?

With Remntar.

[wide python]

so we liking the metal wm now or still have doubts 😜

[little berry]

I am liking it now. 😉 It has a purpose.

[worthy scroll]

no

@little berry

[mortal bay]

No winner

[worthy scroll]

no

[little berry]

🤔

[mortal bay]

It only possess remntar teams

[worthy scroll]

it reflects back to their own team

[little berry]

Oh.

[worthy scroll]

the enemy possesses the remntar team

[little berry]

Why doesn't it possess them?

[mortal bay]

I'll break it down for you

[little berry]

Ok

[worthy scroll]

go for it @mortal bay

[nocturne crater]

They're possessed. They reflect it to themselves.

[mortal bay]

Hackster uses his aoe possess skill and possesses Remntar's team, then when the skill mirror reflects the skill back, it reflects it onto his own team again

[little berry]

I thought reflection comes first. 👀

[mortal bay]

No

[little berry]

But okay, I understand now. Thanks!

[mortal bay]

The skill has to land before it can be reflected

And hey there contrived

I bet you're loving Remntar already

[little berry]

Also do reflected skills have 100% accuracy if the attack hits the monster with skill mirror?

[mortal bay]

It has the accuracy of the skill

[nocturne crater]

Awesome monster imo

[little berry]

That's cool.

[mortal bay]

If your monster was total blinded, the reflection would miss

[little berry]

Oh ok. That's fair.

[mortal bay]

Remntar seems to really suit your style

Effective when unranked ;)

[little berry]

Mine?

[mortal bay]

Nah contrived

[nocturne crater]

😉

[mortal bay]

He's always testing different combos

[little berry]

I'm ranking mine when I get him.

[mortal bay]

Gotta pay respect where it's due

Not abusing op monsters and actually theory crafting

[little berry]

Another unique WM, he's possibly my favourite. I'm ranking him definitely.

Imo if you are a regular player with rank 0 WMs using remntar in war is going to seriously liimit your team formation options due to the possession vulnerability. Imagine using glitch with 200% damage boost and corruption. But you don't even need that damage boost.

Any skill that does decent damage + possess is going to be doubled down. 45 dmg becomes 90.

[wide python]

@little berry whhoooo your favorite big difference from say 24h ago

[little berry]

😂 He's changed a lot.

24h ago I wouldn't use him for anything.

[wide python]

🍀

[lusty shell]

Trait is definitely something now

[worthy scroll]

I'm thinking Remntar plus an attacker Neobuki with maybe an Elvira on the team

Would be fun to try a 3 STr Neobuki with Elvira and Remntar there with team speed, something like that

[little berry]

What happens with remntars team if ruby does explosion and 1 monster gets possessed, 2 others stunned?

Will the skill be reflected back to own team or to enemies?

[cold sequoia]

possession is problem

[tall cedar]

If the targeted monster gets possessed, it will reflect on itself

[little berry]

Hmm ok

[cold sequoia]

Necromancer goes very good with remntar just for that

[little berry]

Yes if you have either of them ranked up it would be good otherwise quite impractical to play in L4 and up

1 level 100 is ok. But 2 lvl 100s?

What about Kihaku's move which possesses and freezes?

🤔

[sand coral]

If the target gets possessed, it will reflect the attack back on its own team, despite being frozen.

[little berry]

Ok. That move always hits all my teammates 100%. Also i hate it when they have relics which wipe out your team before anyone starts lol.

Good runes for Remntar? Any ideas?

[icy cipher]

Guess now we know why they made that shield diamond relic for him lol

[little berry]

They made a diamond relic? 👀

[hasty mortar]

would remntar and babaris status casters stack ?

[little berry]

Yes

Wow

That's 200% damage right?

If skill mirror reflects damage too, I can't remember

🤦

[hasty mortar]

dmg mirror reflects just the dmg. skill mirror uses the move like your monster used it applying its strength so it could deal more/less dmg

[little berry]

I did not know that

Strenth runes for Remntar then 🤔

Because if he or another monster of yours goes first they lose skill mirror

[hasty mortar]

also if a monster lets say a volt uses an extra turn skill while he has skill mirror he will get 2 extra turns because of it

[little berry]

👀

[hasty mortar]

it might be a cool attack team paired with neobuki. if neobuki gets hit she will reflect all until she gets a turn and when she does she can use her extra turn move to get 2 extra turns

[modern gust]

Guys ive missed the news

Can you tell me whats on?

[unreal flume]

Remntar changed

He is good

3 ts on remntar lol muffin

[little berry]

Why? 🤔

[mortal bay]

You won't get 2 extra turns @hasty mortar

Not with monsters like volt and zyla

Extra turn moves that are casted on your team yes, but not moves like that which volt and zyla and Cain use

[worthy scroll]

Own extra turn like flamerions cooldowns self reset for example

Same combo you can do with timerion and flamerion to give flamerion a second extra turn

[hasty mortar]

oh ok 👌

[modern gust]

I still dont understand anything 😂

[little berry]

@modern gust

[marsh forum]

yea he sucks at lvl 100

[mortal bay]

Lol no he doesn't

[marsh forum]

beside the traits, tier 3 skills are average

[wide python]

wow lol

I think im going to enjoy him at r0 at defense

[pale fiber]

His trait is underwhelming

[hasty mortar]

aoe 100% special protection and skill mirror ? ok

[mortal bay]

Underwhelming ?

Hahaha

[ionic tinsel]

Possibly better then anticipation

[marsh forum]

but those requires to be lvl 105 and up...

[unreal flume]

whats this oh god

he is so nice ,and ppl still complain
dont know when to stop i guess

[tame beacon]

Imo he should have Elviras status caster, Zahras trait, and Drakors moveset.

With extra super duper denial for SG4

[little berry]

and the highest hp and highest speed and attack

[cold sequoia]

I am not asking muxh..

just a CDA on him... would be nice

[little berry]

Lol sonnorcteer.

he should be thunder to counter thalassa'

What? Make the Metal warmaster thunder?

He's a good monster now.

[unreal flume]

😂

yeah

i am so thankful they made him better ❤

[little berry]

Same. 😂

[cold sequoia]

He is good

[drowsy jackal]

Sadly, his skills didn't change.

[cold sequoia]

ye..

[unreal flume]

His skills ok, 20% stamina could be better, but it still works, if i am not wrong, his 33% shield is 25 stamina
i am gonna run him no stamina cost 20% stamina 0 cd stun skill mirror and 33% shield

[little berry]

I might have to spend 119 elementium on Krugbo as an attacker if I'm gonna get Necromancer

😬

[unreal flume]

non

[little berry]

😂 🤷 I need him

Rank Tyrannoking

The dungeons aren’t too hard, I used a 110 Nebotus with level 4 runes @little berry

:WeSmart:

@little berry And did you complete it?

Also, who was your attacker?

Because if it's not Krugbo then it's Hayman for me. 😂

Yeah, I completed it xD

I uhhh, have a 115 Sammy

Had*

Keep forgetting I got him to 120 a week and a half ago

With 147 ele to spare

My god I cannot decide what to do

[unreal flume]

I said him dungeons are not hard too, hell be suprised tomorow

😂

[noble coral]

Waiting for Magic Warmaster 😍😇

[dark igloo]

I’m planning on putting 3 TS runes on my unranked Elvira (my first ever warmaster.). I used her for attacking in a few pvps where I lost due to PER. The TS will help my 2nd denier save my attacker. That’s the thought process. What runes do you use and or recommend for Elvira?

[main current]

, , or

I know that doesn’t help, but she’s versatile.

[dark igloo]

Thanks @main current It does help a lot. I was leaning towards either or and preferring cos at my level (no monsters at level > 115), speed matters. Thanks for the tip! 👊

[kind crane]

If it’s unranked I’d probs do 3 ts

Strength ain’t needed till 105 min

[dark igloo]

Thanks @kind crane It’s unranked and it’ll be a very long time before I can rank it. I’ll go with the 3 TS. 👍

[kind crane]

No worries. Mine has 2 ts 1 team health . But they’re Xs so works better

And I’m thinking of swapping team health for ts anyway

[noble coral]

Area trait in the photo say: Receive no damage from Special attack skills, in the wiki say receive 50% now which is correct?

[lyric marten]

Wiki ourdated , Its get updated , now its 100% special demage reduction ,check its already on game

[noble coral]

So.. Warmaster Remntar will gives to all allies 100% special damage reduction and its for all turns? :)

[cold sequoia]

yes

HAS an extremely strong trait

but weak moveset

[noble coral]

Going to spent 2300 orbs ❤🙌

I'd like he to get 100% shield to all allies instead of 50% shield.. General Atum still have better condition

[rancid bough]

Elvira doesn't need speed imo. Nor does she need to speed up your denier when you already start with evasion unless your goal is to try and cancel out an opponent who uses remove positive effects. I personally rather boost everyone's strength with team strength. This way I'm safe from attacks initially then I hit them hard in return. Something to think about.

[little berry]

🤔 That's a pretty good suggestion @noble coral. His skills aren't amazing.

[noble coral]

@little berry dont see the skills, the skills are pretty good :) i have no idea what people want they just want Overpowered skills to break game lol i like the metal probably his trait is such great he just needed 100% shield instead of 50% and immunity to control should be in group 3 to get some protection, maybe people dont want to spent 9more orbs till 105 rank or more i mean for people like me and you not for those who are top.,lol.. but anyway he is perfect

[little berry]

He is perfect yeah.

[cold sequoia]

Pls All I am asking is for CDA

@noble coral we want skills that actually are good

Not the same immune to torture and control

which runned by every monster

and skill mirror that even timey can cast

[little berry]

So what is ramnter new skills?

[cold sequoia]

No new skills

its the same

[noble coral]

I like his 50% stun to all allies with 0cd

[little berry]

Oh :(

Yeah like cloud

[cold sequoia]

ye its 50%..

[noble coral]

Get a precision u will give to all 😂

[cold sequoia]

No

[noble coral]

K

[cold sequoia]

almost every monster has tough

its pointless to run precision just for that aoe 1 turn stun

[little berry]

Precision only increase the accuracy of the skill not the effect itself tho

[noble coral]

Yes

But with precision always land

[cold sequoia]

I won't

[little berry]

Hmm

[cold sequoia]

eithery ways

He's a good warmaster for trait

but skill wis

[noble coral]

His trait and area trait is magnificent

[cold sequoia]

wise*

Zahra is beterr

[little berry]

Not really

[cold sequoia]

I mean Zahra does have TT

[little berry]

But I would rather something over special protector

Yeah at rank 4

[cold sequoia]

His trait is excellent

but skill

is ehh

[little berry]

Yeah but I would rather something like 50% protection

Skills are OK tbh

[cold sequoia]

I don't get you?

[little berry]

I mean his trait does special protection right?

[cold sequoia]

Ye

100%

[little berry]

Wait for the whole match or only 3 or 2 turns?

[noble coral]

Poor me lol

[little berry]

Do elemental skills bypass Remntars trait?

Yes it protects only against special

If it was for the whole match then it is phenomenal

Hmm k thanks.

[noble coral]

In pvp i am gonna use Remntar, Zahra and Magic warmaster.. waiting for Magic

Magic will be the best since he/she is last Warmaster.. so what gifts are last are more interesting xDD

[little berry]

It's not necessarily going to be the best.

I hope it's unique like all the other WMs but I'd hate for it to be OP.

[noble coral]

This relic will be very good on him 😍

[lusty shell]

If Remntar protected against elemental skills he would be broken 🚮

[noble coral]

Lol

[dark igloo]

@rancid bough I was originally considering team strength for Elvira. The reason for team speed is as you suspected. Pretty much all my PVPs are against 130s and nearly all have Sammy who removes Elvira’s evasion. Looks at my last few losses, I also see baron traitor and ingenica negating my attack team. The AI knows exactly what to do. So I need a denier to help after the enemy monster removes Elvira’s evasion.

[cold sequoia]

Elvira is there in case your denier is slower than the other player's denier

[cold sequoia]

Anyone saw's armor's review?

He gave a pretty vague opinion on the WM

but Ye his review was good

His skill mirror is 2 T

1T*

[noble coral]

Magic warmaster ==>Immunity to Control and Immunity to Tortures effect at the start of the battle🙈😇😍

[cold sequoia]

Ahh no lol

[noble coral]

Amazing battle

Ha ha

[misty elm]

Fox said they want to make the new monsters somehow balanced (yet somehow Thalassa happened 😄 ) and that thing for the Magic WM would be extremely broken. So no, I don't think they'll use something like that (and I know you were sarcastic 😄 )

[crystal vigil]

Top 10 greatest geniuses of all time

[misty elm]

And why did you post them in the Warmasters channel? 😄

[crystal vigil]

Because it's WM dungeon

[misty elm]

Okay

[drowsy jackal]

I'm happy to get him. They made him a lot better with his new Trait. 😃

[cold sequoia]

I am still iffy to get him

or wait for magic

[misty elm]

You can get him anytime he's in the dungeons. Right now you get an extra rune for it.

[misty elm]

Gimme that Elementium 😄

[polar valve]

hey, you stole my name

[crystal vigil]

I need enough to get a bunch of nemesis ranked up once i get them, so i need lots of elementium

No, i was the 3rd to change my name to skills change for gold

[polar valve]

no

[crystal vigil]

You just copied me

[polar valve]

did not, had this name since day 1( when TEK changed name)

[misty elm]

graps popcorn

[polar valve]

brings chairs and a table

[cinder geyser]

Fighting over a name

[polar valve]

I aint fighting

actually, I am fighting in the wm dungeon

[robust basin]

Why don't you remove the number and keep name like me

[polar valve]

steals idea

its better

[misty elm]

Yay

[polar valve]

the wm dungeons are hard when you dont have runes lol

[atomic crow]

huge bug btw people

dungeon rewards give thunder cells over metal cells

so bear that in mind

[misty elm]

Yeah, they forgot to change it from Babari

[drowsy jackal]

Even the 2500 Orb offer has Thunder cells insted of Metal. 😕

[cold sequoia]

More ranking neobuki for me

[barren arch]

It’s all been worked on and sorted now.

[little berry]

You know what
Elvira and Ramnter is not a good combo
Cuz the enemy monsters will recharge when your monsters have evasion :(
But it will works well with monsters like thalassa or especially Zahra
Also with tanks

[polar valve]

with zahra

[cold sequoia]

Neobuki is a good option

Babari would be good but damg mirror and skill mirror don't work at the same time

[unreal flume]

if you are getting zahra just to pair her with remntar when you can get otherswms as well...

many ppl dont realise zahra and barbael are not so good, and instead saying worst warmasters are babari and remntar 😩

[polar valve]

zahra is the worst

[polar valve]

forever....

[unreal flume]

yeah

go on remntar wiki page and look at comments, someone said she is, and then someone wrote wall of text argument LOLOLOL
always good when you need to kill time reading something 😂

[cinder geyser]

I've seen someone saying why most of the WMs are fat, they must be sexy
😂

[unreal flume]

lololololol

[cold sequoia]

Ahh people these days

...

[little berry]

Pinky Flash = magic WM.

Thay would be awesome.

[cinder geyser]

That*

[marsh shoal]

I have to confess that I have a crush on Pinky Flash...

[barren arch]

Lol. Someone has to. 😄

So out of topic here. ☺️

Is it the colours of her clothes.

That flame coloured hair perhaps 🤔

[noble coral]

Magic Magic 😃😄

Finally xD

[atomic crow]

grats!

You got the right cells?

[noble coral]

Yes

100 to craft it

[atomic crow]

no i mean about the reward wheel bug

[noble coral]

You mean elemental cells?

[atomic crow]

yes

[noble coral]

Yes i got them

From wheel

[atomic crow]

ah ok nice

[noble coral]

😉

[atomic crow]

people earlier got thunder cells when they restarted their game

like me haha

[noble coral]

Wow

This is cool

Now i have 2663 orbs left for the last warmaster.. i waited for so longg... 🤗

[atomic crow]

I also have enough for the magic one. i am so excited

[noble coral]

He/she will be the best i know the magic warmaster a great wizard or i have no idea lol with powerful effects xD my mind is going everywhere 😂

He or she could have immunity to Control or Tortures like Neobuki best monster

[atomic crow]

lets hope! 😃

[noble coral]

Yup ;)

[cinder geyser]

Torture/control Immunity are common nowadays
WE NEED STH NEW AND OP!!!

[noble coral]

What you need lol

Magic warmaster =>Immunity to control and tortures at the start of the battle and area effect life regeneration 😅😁

[atomic crow]

oh jesus

[noble coral]

Yeah

[atomic crow]

too op

[unreal flume]

yeah?

what the

balance hi

m

stop being greedy

thalassa should stay at top

[brittle hemlock]

@cinder geyser you do realise ir's a concept that's been around not even half a year... only 10 or so monsters, out of the whole of ML, have torture or control immunity... so you can't exactly say it's too common.

[vital palm]

Serían tan amables de explícame porque lo que se supone que son elementales de metal del warmaster no se pasaron a mi laboratorio, gracias

[wide python]

@vital palm #español

[vital palm]

They would be so kind to explain me because what are supposed to be metal elementals of the warmaster did not go to my lab, thanks

[wide python]

I can only explain in English on Monday thunder will be changed to Metal but don't use the thunder

[vital palm]

Thanks Mari

[noble coral]

@unreal flume Magic must be the best thalassa 2nd place

[unreal flume]

non

[cold sequoia]

I don't think thalassa is gonna be knocked out by magic WM

[wide python]

now discussing a wm that isnt released yet 😂

[unreal flume]

lol
thalassa will always stand on top

majik doesnt deserve best wm cause it has ruby, and water has, um, hydratila? :GWlulurdwaitwhat:

[little berry]

Guys, does anyone have the relic description for the metal wm?

[mortal bay]

Relic description ?

[little berry]

Yeah, description... what they do

The relics given as blessing for the metal wm

[mortal bay]

Ooh

[unreal flume]

lol

[mortal bay]

Yeah I get them

1 sec

[unreal flume]

talika banner OP

[little berry]

Thx

[mortal bay]

Got*

[unreal flume]

:GWqlabskek:

[mortal bay]

Talikas banner is 14560-48320 Life at start of battle to all allies, lasts until end of battle. (1 Use)

Fulmen Shield is 9195-31340 Shield when ally is under control status. (3 Use)

[little berry]

Ok

Yeah the banner is great

[mortal bay]

Talika's Banner

At start of battle increase life of all allies by x amount until end of the battle

1 use

Fulmen’s Shield

At start of the wearer's turn, if an ally is controlled they receive x amount of shield

3 uses