monster-discussion

[ionic tinsel]

But with those monsters you definitely aren’t

[cold sequoia]

Lol

I swept with francine for lolz

[brittle hemlock]

have you ever swept with demise tho??

[cold sequoia]

I don't have her

but I have her father

but nothing is compared to the satisdaction you get when you sweep with cain

[ionic tinsel]

More satisfying when you sweep with freezers honestly

[lusty ruin]

Hey, guys. Anyone can pls tell me what is the order for group 4 skills for Babari?

[barren arch]

I sweep with a Broom. 🤔🤷🏻‍♀️

😂

[brittle hemlock]

@lusty ruin the skill group order is as shown on here iirc

https://monster-wiki.com/monster/Warmaster_Babari

[lusty ruin]

Group 4 doesn’t show up

I only see the skills up to G3

[brittle hemlock]

Correct...

That's weird.

youll just have to rank up for yourself ig 🤷

[lusty ruin]

Lol

Now that is a good advice

I cannot rank it fully and anyway I think the sensible thing to do is to know the skills before getting a monster

[muted pilot]

What rune set ups are people using for Barbi? I'm thinking 2 str one speed?

[hasty mortar]

im thinking of running on mine

[tame beacon]

@lusty ruin http://monsterlegends.wikia.com/wiki/Warmaster_Babari

SG4 is there and in the right order

[cold sequoia]

People run rainbow on Babari

But depends on how your running

[lusty ruin]

Thanks!

[little berry]

... I still prefer Zahra

[cold sequoia]

Bad for u then

[mortal bay]

Nah Babari is better

[cold sequoia]

Idk in what way you find Zahra better than Babari

[little berry]

Zahra vs babari?

[cold sequoia]

Babari any day

[hasty mortar]

babari is just way more useful than her

[cold sequoia]

Tbh the warmaster tittle should be taken from her

and given to charmless

or talika

[mortal bay]

...

[hasty mortar]

that puny lv5 life rune to all allies trait just doesnt compensate for her moves

[cold sequoia]

I honestly find more use in them than Zahra

[hasty mortar]

#HullHead4WM

[cold sequoia]

good idea

[little berry]

Zahra should have an aoe insta kill move

[cold sequoia]

Babari has proven to be way more usefull than zahra at level 100

No it should not

its a support monster

why would anyone want insta kill on Zahra

[drowsy jackal]

We're still complaning about Zahra. 😕

[mortal bay]

She's still not the worst one at least

[little berry]

To make zahra better

[hasty mortar]

another thing though why does barbael just have 1 team buff and not 2 or 1 and something like anticipation/control immunity

[cold sequoia]

@mortal bay whose the worst

[mortal bay]

Barbael

[cold sequoia]

Hahahaha

[little berry]

How

Barbael

[cold sequoia]

no

[little berry]

What?

[cold sequoia]

Barbael is good

[mortal bay]

Barbael is trash

[little berry]

How is Barbael the worst

Explain

[cold sequoia]

He has trait disable complete blindness

ignition and burn

more than enough to be a fire warmaster

@silent egret He has the best stats as warmaster

[hasty mortar]

zahra - nature warmaster... cant even heal wait wut

[mortal bay]

No one uses him

[cold sequoia]

@mortal bay People do use

check the top 10

[mortal bay]

If he was good, people would use him

[little berry]

That doesn't make him the worst.

[cold sequoia]

and some of them use him

[little berry]

Heck I use him.

Even tho he's unranked but still.

Barbael is good coz atackers get damage boost

[cold sequoia]

@hasty mortar She's the only Nature support monster that can't heal

[mortal bay]

Only 2 of the top 10 use him, and that's for offense

[cold sequoia]

His trait disable and speed is very good

[little berry]

That still doesn't make him the worst.

[crystal vigil]

Who do you think is worse?

[cold sequoia]

@mortal bay thats exactly what he's used for

[little berry]

Zahra is the worst

[cold sequoia]

Zahra obvio

[mortal bay]

He has the lowest usage rate of all the warmasters, even though he was the second one released

[cold sequoia]

Ehh gortak is the lowestr

that doesn't mean he's bad

[little berry]

It means his underated

[mortal bay]

You seem to think I'm saying Barbael is a bad monster

[cold sequoia]

• Most of the top players are p2p

[crystal vigil]

Well

[cold sequoia]

some don't have what it takes to use the potential of a monster

[crystal vigil]

Why would you ever use Barbael

[mortal bay]

Barbael is a good monster, but he's trash compared to the other warmasters

[crystal vigil]

When Thalassa exists?

At least at 130

[mortal bay]

Cain and Ingenica are both better than Barbael

[hasty mortar]

trash compared to zahra excuse me ?

[little berry]

🤔

Zahra still best wm

[drowsy jackal]

His Trait doesn't do much. It's only a Team Damage Boost. While other WMs have way better Team immunities and Status Casters.

[crystal vigil]

Barbael - team damage boost
Thalassa - team triple damage(Thalassa's Chosen)

🤔

[harsh cedar]

:GWchadMEGATHINK:

[mortal bay]

The only reason those 2 people in the top 10 use barbael is because their 3rd monster slot is open

He's simply a filler

[cold sequoia]

People use Barbael for his trait

and He's a possibel counter to Babari

[mortal bay]

a level 4 rare monster with team strength does the exact same thing as barbael

[cold sequoia]

@crystal vigil Barbael is faster than thalassa

[crystal vigil]

barbael is tankier

With rune guardian, does that ever matter?

[cold sequoia]

Well no

But He is really not the worst

Zahra is the worst

[mortal bay]

Zahra is much better than Barbael

[little berry]

If that's your opinion then I'll respect it. I personally favor Barbael over Zahra but hey, you do you.

[crystal vigil]

Her trait is really good, then again Thalassa can get rid of any trait she wants

[little berry]

Best warmasters

1. Elvira
2. Thalassa
3. Necromancer
4. Babari
5. Zahra
6. Gortak
7. Barbael

[cold sequoia]

SMA

[hasty mortar]

and people wanted refund on thalassa 😄

[cold sequoia]

Zahra is worse than gortak

[crystal vigil]

Babari

Not barbari

[mortal bay]

So close Crypno

Swap Gortak for Zahra and you're good

[cold sequoia]

@crystal vigil Barbari sounds way better

[hasty mortar]

barbari has that ring to it though 😂

[misty elm]

Ask SP to change it 😄

[cold sequoia]

it was me who started calling that

and everyone liked it

[little berry]

Best warmasters

1. Elvira/Thalassa
2. Necromancer
3. Babari
4. Gortak
5. Zahra
6. Barbael

[mortal bay]

1,3,3,4,3 ?

wat

[misty elm]

Elvira and Thalassa are equally good in that list. And it was changed

[cold sequoia]

They have different uses

so Not really comparable

[little berry]

🤔

[misty elm]

Well, Thalassa can easily get rid of Elvira in 1v1. Or at least deny her.

[mortal bay]

Just because they fill different roles doesn't make them incomparable

[cold sequoia]

the best warmasters at level 100s are handsdown Necromancer and elvira

[mortal bay]

Necro at 100

[little berry]

It really does tho.

[mortal bay]

What

Necro isn't good until 110

[little berry]

You can't compare a denier with an attacker

[mortal bay]

You can

[cold sequoia]

He is for his trait

Anticpation and possesion

[little berry]

How can you compare an attacker with an denier??

[cold sequoia]

If you go to gold league

everyone runs a possesion monster

[mortal bay]

Whoever does their job better

[hasty mortar]

everyone runs samaels and faradays...

[crystal vigil]

One of the reasons barbael is so bad is the fact that literally every warmaster has a counter to total blind, including barbael himself

[cold sequoia]

And he only has 2 trait

[little berry]

How could the attacker do the deniers job? What a single stun on greedy? ???

[cold sequoia]

while all had 3

[drowsy jackal]

Very true, Dori.

[mortal bay]

I didn't say that

[misty elm]

Technically Gortak also has only 2 traits.

[mortal bay]

Their respective jobs

Not each others

[cold sequoia]

Ye and its better freaking tough

[mortal bay]

Sammy is better than Ruby because he can support better than Ruby can deny

[little berry]

Best Warmasters
Denier:

1. Thalassa

Support:

1. Elvira
2. Necromancer
3. Zahra

Attacker:

1. Babari
2. Gortak
3. Elvira

Hybrid thing:
Barbael

[mortal bay]

It's that simple

Elvira is a better attacker than Barbael

[cold sequoia]

@little berry Barbael doesn't seem to be an attacker

[hasty mortar]

sammy > ruby every day of the week you put sammy on def and you dont get any random people like me attacking you with an elvira 😂

[cold sequoia]

He's more of nothing

sammy has pesitalance

[drowsy jackal]

He can be a attacker.

[mortal bay]

Barbael is a support monster for the most part

[drowsy jackal]

^

[cold sequoia]

Ehhh

[mortal bay]

Support hybrid

He can fill every role

[drowsy jackal]

Secondary deny.

[cold sequoia]

But honestly

[mortal bay]

He's just not great at any of them

[cold sequoia]

SP was being lazy

and gave the same thing to babari

[hasty mortar]

was still is..

[cold sequoia]

I am still triggered about that

[little berry]

His trait?

[hasty mortar]

hmm perhaps zahra and babari can work great on a team

[mortal bay]

Bit pointless ?

[misty elm]

Making Zahra's status caster useless?

[cold sequoia]

@hasty mortar to get absolutely masscared by Thalassa?

[little berry]

Zahra + Babari + Fulmen = tanky

[mortal bay]

Terrible team

[little berry]

👍

[hasty mortar]

thalassa is dominating everywhere but people want refunds on her

[mortal bay]

Because they can just get her again

[misty elm]

To get her again cheaper

[cold sequoia]

WORST team

fulmen shield will prevent damg reflection

[misty elm]

^

[cold sequoia]

Babari goes great with

[mortal bay]

They need to fix that

[little berry]

Hull head

[cold sequoia]

Thalassa /Babari /Barbael

On a attacker team

On a defence side ehh

dk

[misty elm]

@mortal bay well technically you need to take dmg to reflect it. A shield prevents taking dmg, so I think it's okay.

[mortal bay]

Thalassa / Babari / level 4 mersnake with 3 team strength runes

[drowsy jackal]

Zahra and Babari make a good synergy. With Zahra's 50% more Life and Babari's Damage Mirror, it's a decent strategy.

[little berry]

👍

[hasty mortar]

i wonder if babari + 4 pestilence traps on def would get me some easy wins

[mortal bay]

The shield takes damage though

[little berry]

Babari, Thalassa, Basthet

Or babari gortak basthet

[misty elm]

Why Bashtet?

[noble coral]

😄

[misty elm]

🤔

[noble coral]

This guy become artifact xD

[mortal bay]

Blind

Daze

Damage reduction

Stop time

[noble coral]

Lol

[unreal flume]

😂

[noble coral]

I just lost a good war becuase total blind didnt land on monster with blind immunity

[wide python]

yes that has been the case for a while now

[echo sundial]

Zahra Gortak Xiron 👍

Yager + Immune to control

[shadow wharf]

I'm waiting for the sneak peak of the metal war master.

And the magic war master will be the last war master i imagine it's going to be a good design and op abilities i hope that

[echo sundial]

I’m waiting for magic lol

I have 105 Scarr 105 Xiron and 120 Goldfield just sat in a habit waiting for it

[little berry]

How come nobody started talking about leaks for the next warmaster yet?

😏

[slow imp]

Cause there hasn't been any leaks yet 🤔

[brittle hemlock]

and leaks arent allowed here.

unless its a leak from SP themselves

[slow imp]

I just hope that the Metal WM can manipulate traits 😔

[brittle hemlock]

or buff artifacts tbh

[slow imp]

Yeah

[brittle hemlock]

Such as.. trait disable, apply positive buff, remove neg effects

[slow imp]

That's an intresting idea

But I have my hopes on the metal WM

I think he's gonna be super good

[unreal flume]

AOE stop tine

Time*

3630 speed

Thatd be nicu :GWfroggyWeSmart:

[drowsy jackal]

Since Metal WM will be after Babari, i hoping for a very good Trait for defence.

[little berry]

I’m not gonna hope for anything cause every time I do I get slapped in the face with something completely different than what I was expecting. :WeSmart:

Looking at Zahra's trait as a "worthless life lvl 5 rune" is foolish. You're supposed to combo it with actual runes, use other monsters such as Samael for healing, the life Totem buff etc. That's when the trait manifests it's true potential. Remember, this is a 3v3 game, not 1v1. Also, when she dies and you revive her, your allies will basicly get a free heal, especially if only the "buffed life" took damage, and not the base one. To me, Babari is just a nice enough attacker with that nice bonus of DOTs immunity and the mirror. Nothing too special, considering it's his "big thing". Tortures immunity and damage mirror, Zahra can provide that too; plus she CAN protect you from receiving direct damage as well as give an ally an extra turn even if a Talany OR Babari himself shocked that ally, because Savia Transfusion will remove it; + the accuracy increase is really handy. Now, yes, those are her ranked skills, but really, Babari's skills aren't too impressive without ranking either.

[drowsy jackal]

Very true, Sapphire.

[little berry]

Merci.

[little berry]

Why is zahra so overrated?

Lets not forget the monster she was suppose to be. Team Double Life + Tean immunity to Control.
Then we wanted to tweak her. And we ended up with this..

[mortal bay]

That would have been broken

Zahra is actually balanced right now

She's a great monster, but she doesn't ruin the game

[little berry]

:DrakeYea:

@little berry "Let's not forget"? That's EXACTLY what we SHOULD forget about. Forget about the mirage of the overpowered Zahra. Just like you let go of the Pre-release-OP-Necromancer, you should let go of the Pre-release-OP-Zahra. To see her true potential. The crave-worthy power creep is gone, and it's not coming back.

[brittle hemlock]

Alrught, calm down Sapphire.

[little berry]

I beg your pardon? I'm perfectly calm 😂

Did I sound... Irritated? If so, sorry. That was not the intention.

[brittle hemlock]

its ok :p

[little berry]

I don't think the original zahra would be broken.

Cain would have looked broken 2 years ago.
But now no..
New monsters will keep countering old ones. That's how the game works.

[full robin]

You're right.

[little berry]

We tweaked Zahra to make her not OP in this time. But by doing that, we made her future dull

[slate sentinel]

Zahra is a joke

At least for me

[little berry]

Except we didn’t, unless SP decided on creating another monster with her trait, then she would still have her unique and best factor.

[slate sentinel]

:DrakeYea:

Wait, didn't they already realise babari with her status caster ?

[little berry]

Yeah but not her Double life.

Babari should still have his trait changed to the wiki version imo.

[slate sentinel]

Actually, it's only 50%

Yeah, I agree

At least, it makes zahra a bit more unique

[little berry]

It made sense for Zahra too, considering Pyromancer.

[slate sentinel]

Yup, maybe they didn't give her healing abilities because they knew she would face her at wars mostly

[mortal bay]

His trait is good

[worthy scroll]

Ok, for the metal one, aoe immune to trait disable, status caster aoe looped damage and space time for 1 turn 😬

[little berry]

God please no team immune to trait disable

[timid hornet]

I think it'd be more reasonable if the status caster would be aoe immune to trait disable

Can be removed

Maybe for the trait could be an aoe immunity of CDA 🤔

[mortal bay]

looped damage would be busted

Ridiculously broken

[timid hornet]

Exactly

[worthy scroll]

Still can be removed with remove positive

Not different than babaris damage mirror, is just looped damage so it can be applied to artifacts

[rare badger]

Finished job

[fickle acorn]

Yay!

[little berry]

:DrakeYea:

[timid hornet]

🎉🎉

Nicely done Darken . . . Congrats!! ☺

[bitter sapphire]

Wow

[rare badger]

@timid hornet Jajajaja 😆

[cold sequoia]

Tbh Babari has out Zahra under the carpet.

Its pointless saying she has a 1 turn botonotrophic shield

And her TT is good but really isn't warmaster worthy move

[noble coral]

Wh you all hate Zahra?
She is the best warmaster at least shs is not attacker, she is supporter, cleaning negative effect, double life, torture effect, botanophombic shield and damage mirror, what you want in this warmaster? She is beautiful and amazing im so happy that i got her

[cold sequoia]

not the best

its nit hate

just dissapointment

babari provides a better torture immunity

her shield is 1 turn

while elvira is 2

damg mirror is provided by babari and gortak

Its just that that other warmaster out class her

[little berry]

Gortak doesn’t have damage mirror unless I’m missing something

[little berry]

Does he have it in his rank up skill that provides Dark protection and some other stuff I forgot? :SmolConcern:

Oh

[fickle acorn]

SG3.

[little berry]

Do Hater effects have any impact on the damage mirror? I don’t think they do but I don’t remember,

[hasty mortar]

only on skill mirror, dmg mirror is just dmg taken

[little berry]

Oof. Would be cool if it did though, it’d make that skill even better in Earth wars.

[polar valve]

those damage mirrors are dangerous

[bitter sapphire]

Very

[unreal flume]

tiemrions looped damage is actually skill mirror

[misty elm]

Yes, and?

[modern gust]

Have you seen the magic warmaster?

[strong bison]

Nope, no leaks of him for now

[misty elm]

Also, too soon 🙄

[polar valve]

no need for magic wm until new year's eve lol

[gilded coyote]

Speaking of too sopn

Soon*

Babari, that is all

[polar valve]

he is rushed

and bugged

[misty elm]

Exactly

[mortal bay]

Metal is before magic

[little berry]

Yay, they 100% fixed Babari.

[mortal bay]

Yup

No more triple extra turns

[misty elm]

No 3 extra turns?

Okay

[mortal bay]

And the damage mirror can be removed

He shoulda kept his ult tbh

Even with it, he's still not Thalassa level op

[tame beacon]

@mortal bay are you able to test if Nautilus still gets 3 turns?

[mortal bay]

I'll see if I have him

Damn don't have him

[tame beacon]

No worries, thanks 😃

[misty elm]

I have him, gimme a sec

[tame beacon]

Ah ok thanks. Was just a hunch that was apparently wrong! Thanks for looking 😃

[misty elm]

Np 😉

[wet sage]

Thunderwarmaster isn't special monster

[mortal bay]

He's really nice

[noble coral]

Is there any sneak peek of new warmasters?

[slow imp]

No

[noble coral]

K

[misty elm]

Don't be impatient please, or we'd get another bad WM.

[noble coral]

Xd

[mortal bay]

Pretty hard to make a wm worse than Barbael or Zahra

[kind crane]

I wouldn’t say it’s much better

It’s just thunder had more potential so it’s more disappointing imo

[cold sequoia]

Wdym

Thunder monster never had good potentials

They are only known for shock and extra turn

Where as Zahra is just ...

[bitter sapphire]

Wdym thunder monsters never had good potentials

[kind crane]

So faraday?

I like zahras health thing going on

I think shes super underrated as a monster.

[shadow wharf]

We're waiting for the sneak peak of the metal war master the borther of ingenica. And the magic one at last i think it's going to be quite good too

[unreal flume]

i hope metal wm comes for months or 2

rush=bad

[mortal bay]

It'll be this year

Early December maybe

[unreal flume]

hope so

[misty elm]

December is okay, one month is plenty of time to make a decent monster

[kind crane]

I hope it sucks

They won’t be able to balance it well enough so it’ll end up being op

So I’ll just take another crap one

[mortal bay]

Cda protection + status caster 100% shield sounds good to me

Plus hardened or artifact

[misty elm]

Artifact would't work with any status caster, so most likely tough

Like the others (except mah boi Gortak)

[mortal bay]

That's the bonus

Having artifact is good enough

So the status caster would only be for the team

[misty elm]

Hmmm 🤔

[kind crane]

100% shield?

Good luck

[misty elm]

Maybe 50% Damage protection, maximum

[kind crane]

Anyone have Babaris top moves at 100, is it worth it

[misty elm]

I say there are better WM's, but only you know if you want him. He's certainly usable.

[kind crane]

I don’t know

I’ve been 50/50 since release

[tall cedar]

I won't get him at lvl 100

[kind crane]

How bad can a wm be with 3 Xs

I hate saving 😂

[mortal bay]

I only use 1 skill that isn't in Babari's sg4

Probs best to wait

[kind crane]

Magic here I come then

Thanks for the advice

If I wait I’ll get it to 110/115 so probs should

[tall cedar]

Babari doesn't want you🤣

[kind crane]

Idk why, I’m a delight

[unreal flume]

just give metal wm aoe stop time god

and aoe stop time twice in rank up

[kind crane]

Tbf I think it should be an attacker or support

Loads of metal deniers lately

[mortal bay]

I wanna see a buffer

Not a healing support

A buffing one

[kind crane]

Like the samael soldier move

But on a metal wm

Or like totem

[mortal bay]

A totem type one could be interesting

Status caster, increases life damage and stamina of all allies by 33%

Wait

Maybe 16%

33 is a bit too much

[fickle acorn]

Totem 2.0.

😃

[mortal bay]

Yus

[timid hornet]

Totem was kinda forgotten

[fickle acorn]

I love Totem.

[timid hornet]

Anyways, gonna keep it WM lol

But yeah, should be interesting a WM like him

[fickle acorn]

Anything is possible for Magic since so many different monsters do so many different things there.

[kind crane]

Yeah 33% would deffo be too much but the idea would work well I think

With cyber,baroness,timerion. Another cda/denier in general would just be tedious

Could even give it an S4 skill of legendary hater +1 turn to an ally

[fickle acorn]

Now that's too much.

[kind crane]

Not really

It’s a metal so would come across loads of cda to counter it

S4 so only 2% players would get it

And it’s a warmaster. This should be the best monsters in the game

Instead they just buff up cain 🙄

[fickle acorn]

Yea Warmasters are supposed to be the best but not break the game like that.

Dealing strong damage to every legendary is too much.

[kind crane]

You could easy do an alternative to hater so it’s less damage anyway

[tame beacon]

"Legendary mild dislike"

[kind crane]

I mildly dislike a lot of people tbf

Monster after my own heart

I’d be interested to know the amount in the game with a 120+ wm

[fickle acorn]

[unreal flume]

33% is too much? and what exaclty would you do with 16% yami?!

100% shiled is better and cdaprotection

[mortal bay]

Life

Zahra

[unreal flume]

zahra has 50 life

thalassa

[mortal bay]

Strength

[unreal flume]

100 stamina

[mortal bay]

Barbael

[unreal flume]

and str 50 barbael

yeah

[polar valve]

shield>life

[mortal bay]

33% of all of them would be too much

20% makes sense

[unreal flume]

🤔

[mortal bay]

25 at a stretch

[unreal flume]

👌

i still hope for aoe stop time

[polar valve]

oh no

[mortal bay]

That would be decent

As long as the rest of the monster isn't to good

It would be nice

[unreal flume]

true

[polar valve]

metal wm stop time on all enemies at beginning of the battle lol

[unreal flume]

lol no

stop time as ability sg3

stop time twice? or for 2 turns at rank 4

[kind crane]

If they do it

[unreal flume]

theyll get moni

[kind crane]

They’ll just bring a counter with magic wm

[unreal flume]

:weSmart:

[mortal bay]

Twice

[unreal flume]

oh

[mortal bay]

2 turns work be dumb

[unreal flume]

is stop time effect which cannot miss?

[mortal bay]

Would

[unreal flume]

if so, then 50% chance of applying stop tipe for 2 turns

[mortal bay]

Every negative effect can miss

[polar valve]

98%

[unreal flume]

oh

then twice can work

💯

[polar valve]

thats not how percentages work...

[kind crane]

You could do a mega stop time I guess

[unreal flume]

lol Luke

[kind crane]

But I’d prefer support from it

Rather than denier

[mortal bay]

To a single enemy?

[unreal flume]

well wont really matter if magic WM counters it

[kind crane]

Yeah Yami

I assume that’s what is meant anyway

[unreal flume]

should be a thing tho

[kind crane]

If not I really question the idea

[worthy scroll]

It could be a new stop time that also works on artifacts

ja, the metal WM could have non-artifact Hater LOL

[unreal flume]

:weSmart:

[modern gust]

How the metal wm look like?

[drowsy jackal]

Noone knows. Nothing has been leaked yet.

[modern gust]

That's sad

[drowsy jackal]

I hope he looks cool, make us go for the Metal WM mainly cuz of design Devs, don't make him bad tho. 😆

[worthy scroll]

Very high expectations for both desing and Skills

I think the magic one also

being those 2 the last ones to be released

[noble coral]

Metal Warmaster: this monster has 35% less accuracy agains him/her, immune to cooldowns activated, status effect gives stamina regeneration

Lol

[unreal flume]

Lol no

Stam regenerqtion bad

[misty elm]

I think it's good that there are no leaks, yet. No one needs another rushed monster.

[unreal flume]

Agree 👌

[noble coral]

🙂

People want artifact immunity but im not sure if they will put artifact immunity to all allies, because other warmaster will be trash

[slow imp]

He/She better have trait manipulation skills or else....😂

[unreal flume]

🤔

[vague cradle]

Have Zahra's glitches been fixed now?

[wide python]

yes they are

[reef wing]

Who can help me with the changes in Team war matching? I'm wondering if I should start my war in about an hour when the other war ends of if it may be better to wait?

[barren arch]

Wrong channel.

@reef wing

Close with War. But this is War Masters.

[signal mortar]

Since I received Thalassa refund last night my game crashes whenever I go to extract anyone else have this issue?

[misty elm]

Write to support, also there are channels for bugs here

[signal mortar]

Thanks

I didn't know if it may be tied to Thalassa refund so I thoughtorhershere might know

[misty elm]

I can't help you, because I didn't get Thalassa

[pale fiber]

Tough + precision + sc immunity to cda

[vague tangle]

Could you please repost the orb amounts?

[misty elm]

The first two floors cost 2400 orbs, the third costs 2300 orbs.

[unreal flume]

no

firsst tow are 2300

third is 2400

1st floor 20x40 =800
2nd floor 25x60 = 1500
3rd floor 30x80 = 2400
4th floor 35x100=3500
5th floor 40x120=4800
6th floor 45x150=6750

[vague tangle]

Thanks so much!!!

[unreal flume]

👌

[modern gust]

If I dont have any heroic orbs, how much £ should I spend to get a rank 5 wm?

[kind crane]

If you don’t have any I doubt you’ll be able to complete the last dungeon anyway

[crystal vigil]

About 350 if you buy the first 4 packs every discount

More precisely

Less than 7 gem packs of 1700

[little berry]

How's the experience so far with a rank0 Babari?

Still speculating if I shud get him

[misty elm]

The Blessing is over, so no X rune ...

[wide python]

?

the Blessing is during whole dungeon or did i miss something

[lime venture]

It’s not over.....

[wide python]

@misty elm please explain

[misty elm]

I don't see it

[wide python]

that doesnt mean its over

[misty elm]

Okay then, I was wrong 😄

[tame beacon]

11/14 on the news reel for me, still there 😃

[wide python]

You gave me a scare there 😂 Im halveway true floor 2

[dreamy thorn]

Can anyone help me with rune suggestions for Barbari and tell me what kind of relics can be equipped to him? Please and thank you

[mortal bay]

This is what I'm running currently along with a healing mask and the bronze stamina relic

Rainbow and full team speed are also viable sets

If you're running rainbow or Teamspeed then I'd make sure you have his 33% heal skill if he's ranked up

[bitter sapphire]

Wow rank 5

[dreamy thorn]

Thank you @mortal bay 😍

[little berry]

Stronk boi

[modern gust]

Hope magic wm will look slim

[fickle acorn]

?

[little berry]

WhAt If It’S ThIcC?

[wide python]

can we maybe keep this kind of conversation in another server please

[livid hamlet]

Any news on when I can get Elvira cells again?

[timid hornet]

I guess her dungeons will be back within 2 weeks

[fickle acorn]

No certain news yet. ^^

[hasty mortar]

Boi do i love getting locked rune slots.... especially on warmasters i got 2 locked on elvira too 😒 😑 ☠ 🇷 🇮 🇬 🇬 🇪 🇩

[unreal flume]

😂 😂 😂

[misty elm]

Man, 2 slots locked and no internet ... 😦

[little berry]

A bit better

[faint beacon]

👍

Gimme your gem's🤑

[little berry]

I would if i could 😁

[faint beacon]

😏

[ionic tinsel]

Sure you would...

[little berry]

If I do babari dungeon now, will I get X rune?

[tame beacon]

Yes, you have 22 hours left 😃

[little berry]

🙂 😀

Thnx

[misty elm]

🙄

[tacit mason]

What's next war monster

🤔

[little berry]

Should be metal

Not much info leak so far

[echo sundial]

if metal wm is op af

i might buy orbs

tho atm im saving for majic

[gilded coyote]

My lanta, Floor 5 of Babari conquered

Can I share what I beat this literal hell of a last node with? To help everyone understand the brevity of absurdity?

[worthy scroll]

I don't see why not, unless a moderator sees an issue.

[little berry]

i got 1050 orbs can i get elvira now

@little berry no

you need 2500 for a war masters

[little berry]

ripp

[tall cedar]

You need 2300 orbs

[gilded coyote]

This

[little berry]

lmao

[gilded coyote]

This nonsense, ridiculous set up

[little berry]

Also rama besure that you have enough monsters

to get elvira

[gilded coyote]

RIP Thundhare you couldn't cut it, was too fast

[worthy scroll]

floor 5 of warmaster dungeons with that? for real?

I'm amazed

[little berry]

@little berry

yh?

[gilded coyote]

Yes, it took me dozens of tries but managed it, had to cripple my speed to survive first round with the aoe evasion given to all

[tall cedar]

Takes a lot of retries too Franchesiv😉

[gilded coyote]

Rhodent is no joke either, 0 CD 15 stamina removal is helpful

[worthy scroll]

yeah I figure you need to try multiple times, but still, that's awesome

[little berry]

@little berry i got 105 arch knight layth and al vanine is that good enough

all 105

yea

ok good

yea thats prolly good enough

[gilded coyote]

I initially had Voltaik with a 7 speed, Thundhare with all 7 speeds, and was switching around rhodent and nanuk, to no avail

[tall cedar]

Once I had completed floor 4 Elvira with only 120 gakora and 110 Semargl. Took me a lot of tries lol

[little berry]

arch knight and layth as attackers and al cainine as denier

[gilded coyote]

lol very nice @tall cedar

[little berry]

Wait question if u use orbs for one level of a war master

if i try again

[tall cedar]

Had equipped 2 lvl 7 strength on Semargl. And he was hitting so hard lol

[gilded coyote]

it's stamina

[little berry]

would i need to pay for it

using orbs?

[worthy scroll]

don't have to pay again anymore

[gilded coyote]

negative @little berry

[little berry]

so even if i did it the first time and like the next time the dungeon comes

i dont need to pay for it

[gilded coyote]

lol I thought of putting all strength on Thundhare as a last ditch so he's so slow the evasion stays for a while

[worthy scroll]

and here I was trying to rank some metal L monsters rather than ranking Epics or something Else lol

I need to re-evaluate that

[little berry]

for metal war master

try to rank Super Dan

[worthy scroll]

yeah

[tall cedar]

Inknatius and Armole are perfect for metal wm

[little berry]

hes breedable and very op

[gilded coyote]

lol, some R5 rares with 7+ runes and dumping great relics and all set

For sure those two would be great

[echo sundial]

for the magic one

[tall cedar]

Armole gives shield, inknatius hits hard😄

[echo sundial]

105 Scarr 120 Goldfield and 105 Xiron Ruby

[worthy scroll]

I got inknatious rank 4

[tall cedar]

Awesome. Mines 5

[worthy scroll]

got a timmy rank 5

[echo sundial]

or 130 rare 120goldfield/105scarr and 105 xiron

[worthy scroll]

and I'm short 3 Holters BG to rank 5 him

[gilded coyote]

Let me tell you how none of the thunders I had had armor or stupid shields, so no tenacity or atums armor I could use for tanking

Healing/Jasastur Mask, and those stupid sword relics that are garbage

[little berry]

or even use nautilus-1 for the metal war master x)

[tall cedar]

What about flamerion franchesiv?

[worthy scroll]

yeah My nautilus is rank 4 also

[echo sundial]

what epics are good?

[worthy scroll]

not enough to rank 5 him yet

[tall cedar]

#monster-discussion @echo sundial

[little berry]

for what type mustie?

@tall cedar maybe shes asking what epics are good enough to get a war master

x)

[worthy scroll]

I think she is asking which Magic Epics are good for the Magic warmaster #stillontopic

lol

[tall cedar]

Oh

[worthy scroll]

Magic sorry

[echo sundial]

@little berry majjic

[gilded coyote]

Drop Elemental will keep you alive 😄

cheap, easy breed

[echo sundial]

i get tons of them

[crystal vigil]

Kimmel's gift does some good damage

[tall cedar]

For magic, I would use that postiguraf

[echo sundial]

as im spam breeding goldfield

[gilded coyote]

Nice, you R5 Drop with all those extras and you'll be heal heavy

Goldfield is a solid support, but if you R5 them both you will need a lot of muscle to make it through I'd imagine

[tall cedar]

Postiguraf is easy to rank since he's available in many events nowadays

[gilded coyote]

Shannara's Bodyguard is a great option in the team shop for easy ranks, but back to epics hmmmm

[echo sundial]

i waste all my team coins on team war chests xd

[gilded coyote]

Oof

[echo sundial]

@gilded coyote i can either use scarr 105 or xiron ruby 105

im only going for the r0

[gilded coyote]

Ah gotcha

[echo sundial]

and if i rank it up ill use elementium

[crystal vigil]

Also Freeza, Mothman and Postiguraf are good magic epics

[gilded coyote]

Can't use elementium on WM

Freeza I back heavily, especially give with two traps, can set up that darned health reduction double trap

[little berry]

Oh

[tall cedar]

Sandwich guy too😉

[gilded coyote]

for R0 Scarr and Xiron and a ranked Drop elemental will do you fine

[little berry]

Well for power I would use Scarr @echo sundial

[tall cedar]

Soap Sam*😅

He has double traps too

[little berry]

but if ur only trying for R0 use both of ur good monsters Xiron and Scarr

[gilded coyote]

or ranked Goldfield, there shouldn't be an issue using those too

two*

[little berry]

plus either goldrield or Drop

[gilded coyote]

Soap Sam, was a beautiful Travesty that thing is

yes Travesty with a capital T

[tall cedar]

I guess invidia has double traps too

Invidia or something. I don't remember

But he is vanitus' brother

[misty elm]

That's his name, yes.

[tall cedar]

6 maxed pestilence traps is an easy win in floor 1 and floor 2

[little berry]

imagine having

5 maxed

pest traps

*6

[gilded coyote]

I was killed on pvp defense with that, cant even be mad, bravo

[misty elm]

6*5810=34860 dmg

[crystal vigil]

I have 5

But so many enemies have 29k-35k life

[echo sundial]

wait ele doesnt work on wm?

that sucks

elementium that is

not elemental cells

[crystal vigil]

Yeah, so not everyone has 130 warmasters

[echo sundial]

do people really have 1k+ elementium

[worthy scroll]

yeah no, nothing else thatn WM cells can be used to rank them

[crystal vigil]

Yes, from the elementium fraternity events a long time ago

[echo sundial]

oh them

now it gives u war coins

[worthy scroll]

Never catched one of those

[echo sundial]

i was never in huge teams so i never got much elementium

[worthy scroll]

but yeah, I've been saving Elementium for months, I have almost 700

[crystal vigil]

I have about 1.1k

[echo sundial]

im on 70 ish

[worthy scroll]

it can be done with all the elementium that you can get week by week, just takes a lot of time

[echo sundial]

tho i dont tryhard dungeons etc

[worthy scroll]

That's the thing, gotta get them all

from all dungeons

is like what maybe 10 a week or so

[crystal vigil]

Enough to get 1 nemesis to r3 and 2 to r2

[echo sundial]

or one to r4?

[crystal vigil]

That too

[worthy scroll]

The survival one gives you 10 I think

dungeons of books is 6

survival is what every 2 or 3 weeks

but yeah, not useful for warmasters #stillontopic

[misty elm]

I have around 320 right now, just started to save it.

[noble coral]

@echo sundial definitely need to get the new monster belbreth or what is called xD she have immunity to control 😁❤😍

Im really want to get magic warmaster she or he whatever is i will get it ❤ immunity to control he/she should have becuase magic is a type of that 🌸

[little berry]

@noble coral Go to #monster-discussion with this (Belbreath) please.

[noble coral]

What is

[little berry]

And about the magic WM... It is possible

[noble coral]

;)

[little berry]

Though it may not happen just because Gortak exists. This would kinda overshadow him

[noble coral]

But is hard to get him espencially to rank 115 and more if we dont pay 🤷‍♂️

I always liked magic so he or she could be definitely the best, dungeon master is pretty good but warmaster could be more better :)

[hasty mortar]

i just want a good go to metal all of my current ones are situational :/

just 600 more orbs and i might just get that metal

[noble coral]

I need 171 orbs to make 2300 total so i can go for magic :)

[muted pilot]

My Barbari is only level 110 would you guys recommend or a set up? I was thinking the latter set up for when he's up to 120 but under that is it worth popping a life rune on him?

[noble coral]

Second one ☝️

[cold sequoia]

@little berry cough cough* Babari cough cough* over shadow cough cough*

[hasty mortar]

i run although only at lv100 he does ok dmg (not really but can kill at least 1 enemy)

[cold sequoia]

I put him in defence

with captain copperbeard

[hasty mortar]

babari + 4 pestilence traps is pretty nice hehe

interesting babaris dmg mirror applies to my flamerion but elviras evasion wont

[worthy scroll]

The damage mirror is considered a positive effect right, it shouldn't apply to artifacts if is the normal one, but looped damage stick to artifacts so, maybe is a kind of looped damage

Interested to see if that will change

[kind crane]

I still disagree with space time being able to work on timerion

Not that’s particularly relevant here. But linking it to the wm the damage mirror shouldn’t either. Not sure if it does haven’t faced one yet

It’s like Elviras evasion doesn’t apply to them.

[mortal bay]

Damage mirror, space time and looped damage can all be applied to artifacts

As far as I know it's only those 3

[kind crane]

Why is that tho?

Why damage mirror and not evasion?

Sp give with one hand and take with the other

The lord giveth and the lord taketh away

[little berry]

It’s cause Artifacts are too clunky to evade things :WeSmart:

[unreal flume]

:GWfroggyWeSmart: :GWfroggyWeSmart: :GWfroggyWeSmart:

[brittle hemlock]

@noble coral it is just as hard to get 115 gortak as it is any other monster

[noble coral]

Yes :/

[native prairie]

I did it

[little berry]

:DrakeYea:

[cyan socket]

:GWchadThonkery: :GWllentShibeWink:

[lime venture]

Impatient for knowing some indiscretions about the next 😁

[kind crane]

I’m with ya there

I kinda hope it’s bad so it forces me to save for magic tho

[slow imp]

Nani?

I hope the metal one is OP 😂

[drowsy jackal]

^

[slate sentinel]

Metol should be the most powerful :GWqlabsThinkBan:

[unreal flume]

👌

[lime venture]

Hope both will be OP 😂
Need new mechanic to fight 😜

[unreal flume]

😂

[modern gust]

Any news?

[little berry]

Yes

Wow what an awesome design!

[unreal flume]

what? dont lie

[rare badger]

Hi. When will I receive the X runes, elementium, gems, relics from Babari's dungeon?

[timid hornet]

@rare badger from November 12th to the 15th you should be receiving Babari's blessings

[rare badger]

@timid hornet Today is November 12th 😬

"I want it all, I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now"...Queen 😁

[marsh forum]

took me like 20 tries to beat the last babari round with 2 ranked 1 legendary and 1 ranked 1 exotic! lol

[granite gulch]

Oiloi bois @next zodiac

[timid hornet]

@rare badger I know that lol . . . Be patient . . . You'll get it 😉

[rare badger]

@timid hornet I got the blessings of Babari, thanks 👍

[modern gust]

I've seen the metal warmaster

Looks like gortak

[little berry]

Can we have some spoilers?

@modern gust

[modern gust]

I'm sorry I saw it in my dream last night

[little berry]

me irl

[ornate oak]

Lmao.

[little berry]

Some of the Warmaster designs look less awesome than nemesis ones

[ionic tinsel]

Sammy has best design

And then Elvira then babari

[kind crane]

I think the main focus should be that some of the warmasters suck

It could literally look like a thumb and it wouldn’t bother me as long as it’s skills were alright

[little berry]

I don't want a monster looking like a thumb 😅 design is imp for me

[kind crane]

I think if sp sorted the actual issues out with the game rather than focusing on a design it’d be better

[little berry]

I don’t know why you’d expect them to have better designs though.

[kind crane]

I just think it’d be a huge waste of time to look more at designs. Rather than fixing issues with the game

[vernal nova]

So I just got barbael

Rank 0

I hear he’s a great denier but not the best warmaster

Thoughts ?

[limpid spear]

I think he might be one of the best when ranked up because of his speed and the fact that total blind is not considered a control status effect

[kind crane]

Eh he’s alright. Not sure I’d use him as a denier at 100

[ionic tinsel]

Use him as teamspeed at 100

For secondary deny and the damage boost to allies

And to ignite enemies

[misty elm]

I decided to attack my first 130 Thalassa base today ...

Two Ults in a row, that's all I say ...

[kind crane]

Did you win?

[dim lava]

@kind crane We are looking for feedback, sir! Please use the "bugs" and "ideas" channels to help us resolve the actual issues with the game.

[kind crane]

I feel very important important getting a shout out, probs not great for my ego tho 😂

Will do Jon

[muted aspen]

Does anyone know if the positive effects in the WM dungeons can be applied to artifacts? Flame & Timmy are a couple one that I & many others will prolly be taking into battle for the metal WM.

Thinking not, but curious if they are a different type of effects & I'm wrong.

[brittle hemlock]

@muted aspen I think the answer is kind of obvious... If we havent been able to use Artifacts yet, how will we know? 😉

[worthy scroll]

I wonder if the broken Thalassa special will be duplicated for the metal or/and the magic one, if don't then it will make Thalassa the most broken and candidate to nerf maybe

If yes then, more broken monsters

[crystal vigil]

I know negative effects can be applied to artifacts at the start of the battle, i guess it's the same with positive

As you can see with this total blinded timerion

[drowsy jackal]

The real problem there is two Strenght runes on Timerion.

[crystal vigil]

They might've changed it, that SS was taken 3 and a half months ago

[drowsy jackal]

Hopefully. 😅

[muted aspen]

Thx Dori. Snoopy, I agree that everyone is prolly in the same boat as myself. However, there are at least 4 epics that are in other elements; I also get surprised now & then, when someone has tested moves or knows stuff in devolopement.

[sacred roost]

this channel is not for reporting bugs
have your report in #bugs-reporting-battle

@crystal vigil

[muted aspen]

Dori was answering a question I had regarding the WM dungeons.

[sacred roost]

ok

[little berry]

They will never nerf thalassa

Many players already complained about how broken she is

[twin zealot]

hey guys is there a way to vs friends?

[tall cedar]

Orb sale^^

[little berry]

So far, they always responded that “thalassa had been tested over and over again and she’s just fine... you just need to change tactics/strategy”

[tall cedar]

I agree with that though

She's broken. She needs a nerf

[little berry]

Yeah, well... at SP they don’t think so, so... we gotta live with that

[kind crane]

Her nerf is sp AI

[little berry]

Oh yeah? Really? It seems to me that the new AI made her even more powerful. Now when she’s facing faraday she tried to avoid extra turns or she goes disable trait on faraday first, then she goes extra turns.

Tries*

[kind crane]

Yeah it’s stronger in some cases. But it only mega freezes 1 instead of 2

[little berry]

Thalassa shouldn't get a nerf if she is to remain strong for a year

Duno why people still don't get it

[mortal bay]

If her ult didn't also apply drowned it wouldn't be that bad

After a long 30+ turns of being unable to attack, you finally get a turn in, but you don't have any stamina

[ionic tinsel]

Yup

[little berry]

I guess we’re all on the same boat here. Only SP doesn’t see that... 😏

[ionic tinsel]

SP sees everything they just have priorities

They are actually one of the better companies that interact with fans and listen to them

[little berry]

😒

I wonder then how you would explain their responses to those who complained about thalassa...

Like “thalassa is just fine. You need to change your strategy”

[tame beacon]

Well have you considered the fact that directly changing a premium monster after release and high spending would cause a LOT of upset. Potentially more than the people upset with Thalassa as she is?

[little berry]

A fine way to tell players (even top ranking ones) “hey, your strategy sucks”

[mortal bay]

People were offered a refund for her

The change should have been made on release

[tame beacon]

Oh I agree, just saying it's probably too late now

[mortal bay]

Acknowledging your mistakes early and hotfixing them

After doing so well with Elvira, they just completely backtracked

1 step forward and 3 miles back

[tame beacon]

don't mistake me saying it probably won't be changed for me saying I don't want her to be changed 😄

[mortal bay]

Oh no I completely understand, devil's advocate and such

[tame beacon]

👍

[ionic tinsel]

Why complain though Thalassa is the best warmaster

[mortal bay]

Because she's unfair, unbalanced and completely broken

[unreal flume]

ah, so much complaining, now they are gonna make next WM's either too OP or too bad

[mortal bay]

It's really not that difficult to make balanced monsters that are still strongest monsters in their respective elements

[ionic tinsel]

Yeah I’m saying Thalassa is broken why are people complaining that she got an indirect nerf

[mortal bay]

No one's complaining about that

[little berry]

Dude, are you serious? Indirect nerf? 😂😂😂 you probably didn’t check her moves well enough

[mortal bay]

Her chain ulting hasn't been effect at all

No difference whatsoever

[slow imp]

I don't understand why people complain about Thalassa. Just because you can't beat her with your normal strategy doesn't mean that it should get a nerf

[nocturne crater]

She is badly unbalanced. But her ultimate makes her broken. That ultimate has no place in the game.

[slow imp]

Plus the fact that like sonnorcteer said it's too late

[nocturne crater]

Disagree.

Just offer the refund again.

[slow imp]

Really? XD

Would you think that top players would care for some extra orbs?

[nocturne crater]

Don't really care. The only complaint can possibly be: I only spent my orbs because I wanted a broken monster.

Well. Here are your orbs.

[slow imp]

People spend their orbs because they wanted a good monster. A very good one

And imo Thalassa should stay as it is

[nocturne crater]

Thalassa is NOT a good monster.

She is broken because of her special

Do not confuse OP with good.

[slow imp]

Broken because of her special?

[nocturne crater]

Yes.

[slow imp]

Idt that she starts the game with her special

[nocturne crater]

She has ridiculously high speed, coupled with lots of extra turn skills which promote the chance of the special popping.

[slow imp]

Sammy was called broken ruby was called broken Elvira was called broken but everything becomes less broken progressively

[tame beacon]

Her special should match Zahras. No drowned, and just freeze

[nocturne crater]

No, @slow imp, those monsters were OP. They were not broken.

AoE strip positive, trait disable, megafreeze, drowned?

Please.

[slow imp]

Don't you tell me that before Thalassa was introduced Elvira wasn't called broken

[harsh cedar]

I mean. Her Evasion is only for one turn. And you can counter it easily.
How can you counter Thalassa?

[limpid spear]

Elvira isn't broken because she herself is good, she is good because she could be used to actually get a turn against all 130 with X runes

Elvira can be easily defeated on defence

[slow imp]

Tbh maybe I don't see the real reason for a nerf cause I don't usually face a 130 Thalassa with X runes but yeah..maybe her extra turns need a nerf but I'm not too sure for the ult

[mortal bay]

There are only 2 ways to beat Thalassa

Use your own with rune guardian

Hope the AI messes up

That monster is disgustingly broken, there us absolutely 0 strategy when using that monster. Players are from L4 and L3 are able to make it to the elite top 30 just using Thalassa, that's literally all you need. I'm seeing people with a 130 Thalassa, and 2 other monsters as low as 105 making it to L2 and L1

[little berry]

Elvira is not broken. Samael and warthak break the evasion quite easily. Elvira on defense sucks. Thalassa is broken because she has 3 +1 turn moves that can easily get her to go special. Plus those moves have removal (trait or aoe) and mega freeze. She has a high chance of going special (average is 3-4 times each match). And when you’re mega frozen you’re out of the game. Plus drowning. She is broken. Oh... I forgot. She’s also the fastest monster on ML and has lots of stamina.

Immunity to freeze/mega freeze doesn’t do squat

Because she removes it

So much for the “indirect nerf”

Only chance you get to win is if she doesn’t go special, then you can move and use strategy. That’s why it’s stupid of SP to say we should change strategy

She moves first... your strategy can only rely on her not going special

Then you can use strategy

For the record... I usually end up top100 in PvP... last season #25... I’m guessing I know a little strategy

And I know how to win

[worthy scroll]

I think the only way is to nerf her, cause if the magic and/or the metal WM have the same broken stuff then it will just be insane having a team with them, or trying to beat one, and she can't remain there alone being that broken.

[unreal flume]

Metal wm status caster: Kill enemy's thalassa

[worthy scroll]

Metal Warmaster: "I become you": The monster became the selected enemy monster for 3 turns, monster gets an immediate turn

[crystal vigil]

Which monster? The enemy?

[worthy scroll]

He becomes one of the monsters that the enemy is using, you choose which

it if happens to be a 130 thalassa well

[gilded coyote]

I didn't realize the broke hate on Thalassa, lol she's someone I usually find a weaker link, ignorance is not bliss

[worthy scroll]

I don't hate her, but she broken

[gilded coyote]

Granted I don't think I've fought a 130 Thalassa

[worthy scroll]

is not a funny thing

and that's the AI using it, I can imagine how lethal she can be on the hands of a human player

[gilded coyote]

I've won a couple defenses with a Thalassa in their team, again, not 130 I'm sure

whatever the VIP and Nemesis got the absolute broken splintered broomstick, least they showed water some love, maybe a little too much love

I'm more salty on what they did to Zahra

[crystal vigil]

The part I was asking about is

"monster gets an extra turn"

[unreal flume]

its metal wm who gets immediate turn dori

i am pretty sure

💯

[worthy scroll]

Yeah, he turns himself into another monster then he gets an extra turn

This of course me just imaging a crazy attack for him

I hope he looks cool

Not that there's already an image of him around.... Wink wink

Hope he has cool attacks

[kind crane]

Has full skill set been released for it?

[shadow wharf]

Is anyone here?

[kind crane]

Nah we all left

[lusty geyser]

Is Elvira in the next rotation?

[noble coral]

I just saw Warmaster Metal

He looks like gelotron but has a shield on his left hand 😁

[kind crane]

It’s also 4x the size of gelo and not purple

[noble coral]

Ok

I didnt meant purple btw

[slow imp]

He didn't look anything like I was expecting

[little berry]

He looks little slow

[noble coral]

Lol dont say slow if you didnt seen his skills

[little berry]

He looks like the father of Baroness

May be its time to say goodbye to cyber and timerion

[slow imp]

O

[little berry]

So did u guys see it in your dreams or is there a picture you saw and wanna share? Thanks

Forget about it. It’s on Facebook already

Looks cool

[unreal flume]

why do i think he looks like hell be tank???

😢

[cold sequoia]

He looks fat

and how's he metal

He's just wearing armour

I was hoping he would look more like talos

[lusty shell]

I was hoping he's gonna stay like that

[unreal flume]

TBH, i like his design, dunno why, but it really looks so much like hell be tank

at least, lets hope hell be meta changing

👌

[ionic tinsel]

Aoe immune to block Thalassa

[cold sequoia]

If he has trait disable immunity

He's bae

[worthy scroll]

That shield..... Status caster complete mirror aoe or something like that?

[ionic tinsel]

That’s be nice

[worthy scroll]

That shield looks cool, even the egg has it

[cold sequoia]

I don't like him looking fat

I want that gortak bulk

[worthy scroll]

I was expecting an Artifact tho, it doesn't looks like one, but it can be something equally good

[unreal flume]

why mirror if babari already has it?

[worthy scroll]

Different mirror

[unreal flume]

he also can be immune to control, he lools much like gelotron

skill one?

[cold sequoia]

Skill mirror

[worthy scroll]

Not only damage but also skill maybe

[unreal flume]

drakeyea xDD

[worthy scroll]

Yeah not sure if tank or attack or a mix of both

Looks like he packs a punch

[cold sequoia]

or tank support

[worthy scroll]

Tank torture control immune attacker