#monster-discussion

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cold sequoia
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True

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But I would run sammy over her any day

misty elm
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Well, true

little berry
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I use a very cheap yet effective combo

misty elm
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šŸ˜’

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Or was it fixed?

cold sequoia
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At level 100

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she's ehhh

little berry
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I intend to rank her. Lol

misty elm
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I meant the Uriel Essence bug. Was it fixed?

little berry
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It is in the 7.2.4 version

atomic crow
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yes

misty elm
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I already use that version

cold sequoia
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But I was really hoping a healing skill from Zahra

tame beacon
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Then yes, it's fixed

misty elm
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And I also tested the dungeons. My Cloud used Charge With Me on my Uther, and he used the aoe 50 special skill. So, it's a good start 😃

little berry
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With those team life runes, Flamerion's HP goes from 50k to 100k. Yay

misty elm
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Maybe I can put demise/Cloud on defense

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Even Necromancer

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Also, I want that Flamerion šŸ˜„

little berry
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Yeah... He's from the Olympus Grand Prix. Boy, wasn't that fun. And expensive.

misty elm
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I didn't qualify.

little berry
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Aww. Anywho. Let's stay on topic šŸ˜…

misty elm
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Yeah. šŸ˜„

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Soon I'll get around 4k orbs. Rank2 Gortak or wait ... hmmm ...

little berry
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oof

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Hmm... That's Full Yager, isn't it.

misty elm
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Yes

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But I love Yager Round.

little berry
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Some people dump it for Yager Round
(Yeah)

So... Until you get enough for the Unstoppable Dwarf, hold it

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🤣 hi

misty elm
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Hi

little berry
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Hai

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how are you 2

misty elm
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Little sleepy, but good , thank you.

little berry
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im dead to be honest

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Splendid, apart from the fact I'm sick & the fever is getting on my nerves.
I love Zahra! (Staying on topic, tactically)

misty elm
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😱

little berry
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😢 i feel bad

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ok

cold sequoia
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I will rank my Warmonsters after all of them are released

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I am gonna try and hog as many X runes

faint beacon
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šŸ¤”

mortal bay
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Babari is in the Dragons book...

tame beacon
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Odd... what’s the other one outside that and exclusive?

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I assume good/evil legions, whichever he is

tacit mason
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When we get barbeal

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?

little berry
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Next week dragon family exclusive, but would love seeing him in superheroes more than family

mortal bay
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Families

misty elm
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Why Dragon? šŸ¤”

little berry
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When you’re Zyla’s dad but look nothing like her and you’re in Dragons book but aren’t a dragon.

misty elm
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But Ixofex is also in the Dragon book and he's an alien parasite. He looks nothing like a dragon.

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Weird šŸ¤”

tame beacon
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Thanks 😃

worthy scroll
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He is on the dragons book? wow

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didn't knew

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I wonder about the missing parents LOL

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Zylas' mother now

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Tethys dad

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it would be fun for a new series of monsters

little berry
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His pet may qualify as a dragon.. May be that's why

worthy scroll
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true, it looks like a little dragon

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I kinda like that one

misty elm
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But no pets were seen in the game. In this case Necromancer should be in the Winged book because he has a crow pet ...

fickle acorn
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No.

cinder geyser
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@misty elm
Thalassa is a female and she is not on female book i think it works randomly

little berry
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@cinder geyser Same thing with Llum...

brittle hemlock
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The book are not assigned randomly - legendaries are essentially restricted to three books per monster.

kind crane
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They’re probably just wanting to spread them out so there isn’t huge overlap

little berry
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sad i cant getb war masters

noble coral
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I am waiting for last warmaster

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He is gonna tweak all stuff šŸ˜‡ he will tremble all Ml he is the the best maybe is she dont know

little berry
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Just noticed that in wiki, babari's trait is damage mirror to allies. Since its a trait, does it last forever?

tame beacon
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His trait in the wiki and in the game are different. If the wiki is correct, then yes it lasts until trait disable, however if in game is correct its a status caster

little berry
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Meaning it will last 1 turn?

tame beacon
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Spanish wiki says 2

little berry
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2 turns is neat. 1 turn is bad

ionic tinsel
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1 is still good

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Damage mirror for two turns seems annoying

kind crane
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I think it’d be quite nice as it’d semi counter anticipation as well

echo sundial
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well

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damage mirror just deals the damage back? not does same attack right?

unreal flume
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yeah

kind crane
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Yeah so it’d suit higher health teams. As if you attacked, fara for example countered. You could ohk him with his own damage

unreal flume
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ithiander OP

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šŸ˜‚

echo sundial
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meh barbari seems a bit meh to me

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if the wiki is right

unreal flume
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she OP

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he*

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jk

echo sundial
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oof might be because wiki hasnt added s4 yet

kind crane
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Nah it’s just meh, needs a bit of tweaking. Will see if anything happens

echo sundial
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rn he just seems like a bad-electric-babearal

unreal flume
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he seems better than barbael to me hahah, and definitely than zahra too

echo sundial
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wat

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how is he better then barbaerl

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barba gives total blind + trait disable

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and barba's trait is attack based

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where has barbari's trait seems to be leaning to that of a tanks

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and barbari just gives blind with no trait disable or not even on an aoe

mortal bay
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He's rank 4 when it comes to warmasters

ionic tinsel
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Well monster legends are trying to bring tanks into meta

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With Zahra. Babari, fullmen, hullhead and Francine

echo sundial
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hullhead acctually looks hella good

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when/if we get a status caster immune to control, the tank meta will be viable imo

echo sundial
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Actually

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Barbari’s S4 doesn’t seem that bad

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Aoe blind shock extra turn

noble inlet
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His trait

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Is really good

echo sundial
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I might get him

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The only ones I can get is barbari and magic

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For this I have VoltaiK Alex Bone and Thordor

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105 115 110

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And for magic I have Goldfield and Xiron and Scarr

mortal bay
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Talany Mask gives 9195-31340 armor at start of battle to all allies

Alces Amulet heals wearer by 19845-62705 when below 50% life

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Creds Sonnor

tame beacon
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Taken from monster-wiki to be fair 😃

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Added in some typos which yami corrected šŸ˜‚

misty elm
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Talany Mask=Tenacity Shield then? Why?

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Can't SP make some more unique relics?

cold sequoia
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Why..

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Did they not change Babari's trait

kind crane
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You can’t blame em

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Sometimes you just cba thinking

gilded coyote
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Anyone know how many orbs deep into floor 6 to get R4?

drowsy jackal
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To get a Rank 4 WM, you need to complete 5 floors, not 6. Also, it's gonna cost you 8,200 Orbs for a Rank 4 WM i believe.

modern gust
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I will skip barbari

tame beacon
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Floor 5 only gets you to rank 3 doesn't it? 660 Cells

gilded coyote
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You get a R3 warmaster at Floor 5

little berry
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Nani?

gilded coyote
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R4 and 5 are in floor 6

tame beacon
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Yup, and that alone costs 13000 orbs

little berry
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Oh right I forgot there was a sixth floor

tame beacon
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6th is another 6750

drowsy jackal
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Hmm, then it's gonna cost you over 10,000 Orbs mate.

gilded coyote
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I will have 13k by the time warmaster drops hopefully

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this is for future planning

little berry
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So who here’s mad at the fact an attacker based WM got an infinite Torture immunity trait but the nature wm who was the first one to have it didn’t....

Like they just made Zahra so incredibly useless

gilded coyote
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Depending on group 4 skills when they are released I may not need R4 depending on what you unlock when

drowsy jackal
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Goodluck with that.

gilded coyote
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Thank you, luck not needed though :D, orb counts needed though lol

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His trait is different on the wiki

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Damage mirror to all allies, status caster is stamina regen

little berry
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Oh? No on the game it says torture immunity

gilded coyote
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Ah didn't know he's in game, checks out

little berry
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So unless they plan on changing it

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Which I really hope they do

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I don’t want Zahra to be completely useless

tame beacon
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SG4 skills are already out too

gilded coyote
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where are they? I just need to know what unlocks at what level

little berry
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Wiki

rose willow
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it makes r5 zahra a complete waste of orbs

drowsy jackal
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Stamina Regeneration would be nice. Especily when i called it. šŸ˜…

little berry
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If they don’t change it I want a refund of all the orbs I used

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On Zahra

gilded coyote
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Huh, I'm only seeing group 3 skillgroup

little berry
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Oh they didn’t add it?

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I thought they did

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Maybe in Spanish wiki?

muted pilot
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She not useless at all just a different monster for a different situation. However look at how many useless nemesis there are.

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The moves are on taringa but not wiki

hasty mortar
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oof them shots fired

drowsy jackal
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Give SP time. They never added Nadiel SG4 skills.

muted pilot
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SG4

little berry
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She is pretty bad but she will be even worse once Babari comes live

tame beacon
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it's in english and spanish wikia 😃

gilded coyote
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can you link sonnor?

unreal flume
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Babaru is fine

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Just fine

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No needto nerf no need to buff

muted pilot
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She's a support and barbi is an attacker so it's more about the team build. But let's see. I think it's more about rune set up more than ever, not just he who denies first wins

tame beacon
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Also @gilded coyote to answer your original question (as I don't think anyone answered it), R4 is 2400 orbs into floor 6

muted pilot
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It adds more depth to game play

rose willow
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we r saying buff zahra

hasty mortar
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he might be my new go to thunder monster

gilded coyote
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Thanks much again Sonnor! according to wiki I will need R4 for that trait disable skill

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water hater is dumb lol, just sayin

muted pilot
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Why? Do you think she needs a buff and what specifically?

little berry
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Cause here’s the thing right; SP basically stole Zahras one niche that made her very good combined with her HP increase; Torture immunity. U can’t burn through that health she gives. However since it’s not infinite it can be A) CDA B) remove positive effects. And combined with the surge of trait disable slowly coming in the game it makes her a bit hard to use. Her skills in general are also a bit meh.

rose willow
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trait

unreal flume
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Water hater is for killing cryotans hahaha

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240 damage

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  • elemntal advantage ithink
little berry
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So my idea is give the torture immunity trait to Zahra instead of Barbari

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The ones that’s infinite

unreal flume
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No lol

hasty mortar
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we dont even know if its gonna be the trait we see for sure

muted pilot
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She can remove negative effects from the team right?

little berry
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And change the skills that give torture immunity to something else like poison or even double dmg

hasty mortar
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sp might pull a sneaky on us in the last min

little berry
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I’m hoping they do see this and do change his trait at least

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Even if Zahra doesn’t get buffed atleast make her the only wm to have Torture immunity to make her stand out a bit more

hasty mortar
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on the wiki it shows stamina regen not zahras trait

rose willow
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in game it shows torture immunity

little berry
hasty mortar
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i doubt sp would release 2 warmasters with the same trait

rose willow
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prob would

hasty mortar
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x to doubt

little berry
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I have hope they won’t

rose willow
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this is sp

little berry
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Also why does the trait say ā€œherā€

hasty mortar
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um 3 warmasters left they could probably make their traits different

rose willow
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its barbie dressed up? nani?

little berry
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So wait u mean that trait on the wiki rn is a permanent dmg mirror? That’d pretty noice

hasty mortar
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um permanent dmg mirror nah

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that aint ever happening

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1-3 turns

rose willow
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perm dmg mirror would be dope for a wm

hasty mortar
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yeah just dope...

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put all life and its gg

rose willow
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or a perm dmg increase/decrease of 10-20%

cold sequoia
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Are you mad

hasty mortar
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barbael already got the dmg boost thing

cold sequoia
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Perm damg mirror

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makes the wm broken

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2 turn is good

rose willow
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of 5%

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perm of 5%

cold sequoia
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RN

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I want the torture immunity to change

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Its really unfair for Zahra

hasty mortar
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no1 said its staying

rose willow
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likewise

cold sequoia
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@hasty mortar The Trait is in the game

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Just for your information

hasty mortar
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it could have just been a place holder in the game

cold sequoia
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and He's coming in 2 days or so

hasty mortar
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like sp cant change anything about him at any time...

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on the wiki it shows stamina regen as the status caster thing

cold sequoia
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which wiki?

hasty mortar
cold sequoia
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Cool

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Is this dude a she or he?

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He has both mirror and stamina as caster?

little berry
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what is a war master?

cold sequoia
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They are mosnters that are suppose to be the strongest in the game

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except for a few

little berry
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Hm... What would you think if the magic WM's trait looked like this:
"Tough + Area Immunity to Stamina Drain + Status Caster: Area Random Traits for 3 turns (with exclusion of Bulwark, Nemesis and Warmaster traits)" ?

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Did you just ask if Babari is a guy or a girl?

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I hope this isn't gonna be Dungeon Master all over again

harsh cedar
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Zyla's Dad

little berry
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how do you get war masters

hasty mortar
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by using heroic orbs in their dungeons

harsh cedar
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What is your level?

little berry
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me

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32

worthy scroll
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I think you need to be level 40 to be able to see the dungeons right?

echo sundial
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Where can I see barbaris s4 skills

hasty mortar
sly basin
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Lol

echo sundial
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He doesn’t seem great

strong bison
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Yeah

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But he might change

echo sundial
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He seems like he’s on the same level as Zahra

strong bison
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Yep

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But he might be beffed

hasty mortar
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i kinda like him already

echo sundial
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Why?

strong bison
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He is an extra turner with stam regen trait

echo sundial
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Meh he can’t loop his extra turns tho

strong bison
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And dmg mirror trait

hasty mortar
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well dmg mirror to all allies that would discourage voltaik players from attacking me in war (i hope). + he can kill 1 monster with those 2 extra turns. i really hoped for anticipation but this works just fine imo

echo sundial
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Which will go after he uses extra turn moves

little berry
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He needs a buff tbh. His trait is good, but his skills at 100 are just so bland I feel like he’s a standard monster that came out like a year ago lol.

mortal bay
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He's pretty good

muted pilot
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It's to shake up the speed meta. With a life rune or two he and the team can wipe out the enemy without even taking a turn

strong bison
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Yep

hasty mortar
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imagine zahra and him on def oh boi...

little berry
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Oof

tall cedar
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For lvl 100, he's not that bad. He's actually good

mortal bay
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I kinda like him

strong bison
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And if he will have someone puting 3x dmg on him .... wow

tall cedar
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Same Yami

little berry
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His damage mirror is AOE right?

muted pilot
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Just want to see the SG4 moves and cool downs

mortal bay
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Doubt I'll get him, but he looks pretty nice

echo sundial
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He seems like the made in china version of barbaerl

strong bison
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Ohhhhhhhhh

mortal bay
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I have his SG4

echo sundial
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@muted pilot it’s on wiki

tall cedar
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Every warmaster has extra turns but Elvira🤣

strong bison
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Lol demo

mortal bay
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revenge is cold: target:single damage:70 precision:95 stamina:41 cooldown:1 effect:applies water hater on himself

deep thunder: target:multiple damage:40 precision:95 stamina:32 cooldown:3 effect:applies shock 2 times

bolts aura: target: all allies damage:0 precision:100 stamina:29 cooldown:3 effect:heals by 35%, applies 100% damage mirror

family chains: target:single damage:50 precision:95 stamina:42 cooldown:3 effect: trait disable and recieve an extra turn

hasty mortar
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elvira doesnt need em šŸ˜‰

tall cedar
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IkšŸ˜‰

strong bison
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Right

tall cedar
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It's a fact only

muted pilot
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Different monsters for different uses. The damage mirror if for the whole team until then move. A Timmy style reflect all would be very tasty ā˜ŗļø

echo sundial
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Overall he could be a hell of a lot better

tall cedar
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He is good now

muted pilot
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Thanks @mortal bay

echo sundial
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He is sure

strong bison
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Yep

echo sundial
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But for a war master

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He isn’t that good

mortal bay
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4th best

hasty mortar
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a timi reflect would be op you use an extra turn but get 2x turns

tall cedar
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For lvl 130, he isn't that good to work on imo

echo sundial
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Not fourth

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5th

strong bison
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Yami whats your ranking?

mortal bay
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He's better than Zahra, Barbael and Gortak

little berry
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Probably gonna get him regardless cause his design and lore lit plus the blessings :DrakeYea:

echo sundial
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Wot

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He isn’t better then barbael

mortal bay
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Barbael is the worst one..

strong bison
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Lol

echo sundial
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Nah

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Zahra is the worst

tall cedar
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I would do thalassa>Elvira>necro>Babari>Zahra>Gortak>Barbael

muted pilot
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I think necro is a bag of poo #controversy haha

strong bison
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Elvira is the best

hasty mortar
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poor barbael

echo sundial
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I actually like gortak rip

little berry
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Zahra behind Gortak imo but overall that’s about how I’d do it Demo

mortal bay
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1.) Elvira
2.) Thalassa
3.) Necro
4.) Babari
5.) Gortak
6.) Zahra
7.) Barbael

tall cedar
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Elvira above thalassašŸ¤”

muted pilot
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Thalassa is a beast that's a fact

echo sundial
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Babri is 5th for me

mortal bay
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Thalassa's ult is broken

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Once it's fixed she'll be on line

tall cedar
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Thalassa is a whole lot broken in her normal skills too

strong bison
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Elvira is the best

echo sundial
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She doesn’t need her ult lol

strong bison
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Yo zizoo sup?

harsh cedar
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130 Thalassa > 130 Elvira.
100 Elvira > 100 Thalassa.

Imo

echo sundial
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^^

tall cedar
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^

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Lol

strong bison
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Yep @harsh cedar

echo sundial
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I’m just waiting for magic wm

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How many orbs for R0 WM

mortal bay
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2300

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Gotta save up for the broken magic wm

tall cedar
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2300

echo sundial
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šŸ¤™

tall cedar
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I gotta wait for metal. I feel he will have status caster like: immune to trait disable and allies skills never go in cooldown for 3 turns

muted pilot
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šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚

hidden crown
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I don’t think he would have that tbh

little berry
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That would be next level cancer

hidden crown
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He would be a pain

mortal bay
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Status caster immunity to cda for 3 turns doesn't sound that bad

hidden crown
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Erm

tall cedar
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Metal exclusive monsters have always been great and so will be the wm

mortal bay
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Self Artifact/Tough, AoE Cooldown Protection, Status Caster allies receive an x% shield.

Armour + Trap/Sword relic slots

little berry
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I’ve never thought of Metal Exclusive monsters being ā€œgreatā€ but they haven’t been bad. I think Metal as a whole is great tho.

strong bison
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Talos...

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From what we have seen so far i am with demo..

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Metal will be op

little berry
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Talos isn’t that great. He’s definitely a really good attacker, but he’s always been the backseat to Timerion for top Metal monster.

polar valve
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Talos is great

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he is just not worthy to be the metal nemesis

gilded coyote
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Why the universal hate for barbael?

echo sundial
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^

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total blind + trait disable doesnt seem too bad xd

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and his high speed means he's practically always going first

lusty ruin
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His skills have blind, not total blind. And his speed is nothing more than average

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That being said, I don't think he is that bad. It will all depend on the trait, so the jury is still out

little berry
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Thunder WM skills look a little underwhelming

gilded coyote
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Ah I totally thought he had an aoe total blind in his group 4 skills

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Yea more I Look at Barbari's skills (cause Babari is dumb) the more it's not really in line

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Especially group 3 skills? They're terrible

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If he isnt R4 no one should bother

little berry
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Yeah.. Last skill of Group3 is a plain 30 damage aoe.

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New warmasters are lacking that oomph

gilded coyote
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Yea him and Zhara are really lacking

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You shouldn't need to rank them to be good, they should be Nemesis level at least unranked

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Not ranked nemesis level

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Lemme clarify

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What's his face will still one shot babari if hes the earth one, he will die with damage mirror but he'll still one shot him

echo sundial
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@lusty ruin I was talking about barbaerl

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Who does have total blind

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And iirc the highest speed

strong bison
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Lol

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@echo sundial he talked about the new wm

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LolšŸ˜…

echo sundial
polar valve
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Zahra is still the worst wm

strong bison
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Yep

tall cedar
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I won't say

polar valve
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and babari having a similar trait/effect to Zahra just undermines Zahra even more

tall cedar
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Zahra combined with Samael can be a devastating offense team

strong bison
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Yep

polar valve
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anyone combined with Samael can be a devastating offense team

strong bison
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But on what rank?

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And correct agin

polar valve
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and now Hullhead is even better than Zahra

strong bison
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But he is insane

polar valve
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does nobody from SP like Zahra or what

tall cedar
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Double life can be tricky sometimes

polar valve
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can be

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especially when on torture effects after her 3 turn immu wears out

ebon stirrup
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How good do u guys think the thunder warmaster is an is he worth going for??

strong bison
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It depends

little berry
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He’s pretty good, his skills are underwhelming but he has a nice trait.

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I hope his skills get a smol buff.

tame beacon
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Most people class him between 4th and 7th best out of all WM. So he’s about in the bottom half.

little berry
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:PeepoCry:

unreal flume
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why most ppl think gortak is actually worse than babari? especially Shieda LOL

echo sundial
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i like gortak lol

unreal flume
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same

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i dont get it how is babari better than him

little berry
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I think trait and status caster wise, babari is still better than zahra.
Skillwise too babari wins.

And babari is overall not WM kind of impressive. That just shows Zahra is that bad

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I think it’s cause his trait. Makes attacking Babari and his team dangerous, plus considered Gortak and Babari’s skills their damage output should be fairly similar at 100.

unreal flume
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šŸ‘Œ

misty elm
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But Babari can be denied, Gortak is immune to control (don't tell me about trait disabling, because both of them are equally weak to it). Only Stop Time works against him (yes, he can be blinded, but he can easily remove it). Although that Damage Mirror could kill an enemy attacker if it's not careful.

unreal flume
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stop time is not control effect?

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šŸ¤”

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metal wm needs aoe stop time damn

little berry
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You can control Babari but not reliably. And even if you do you’re gonna have to jump through hoops to attack him.

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Gortak tho :DrakeYea:

echo sundial
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Remove positive effects > basically every status caster

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Wouldn’t it be cool if we had a status caster that did something to the enemy?

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Like guard down status caster or something

muted pilot
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That's a good shout

little berry
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Pretty sure that idea was born in SP's minds while making the Heroic Dungeons' battle conditions xD

echo sundial
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When the magic war master comes out

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Will 105 Xiron Ruby and 120 Goldfield be able to win it for me

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Or should I get my Scarr to 105

strong bison
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For lvl100 wm?

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Cos when i got elvira i did oto fightšŸ˜…

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Ok for lvl 100 i dont think you need to but maybe

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Cos at the start of each battle something heppens it can be control immuntiy cooldown actived ...

echo sundial
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Hmmm

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Goldfield has 0cds šŸ˜‰

strong bison
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Yeah but is it enogh?

echo sundial
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I have healing mask on my Xiron + Goldfied has 0cds so I assume Xiron would live through cda

strong bison
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Hmmm

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I still think if you will have an attaker like that vip it might come handy...

echo sundial
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Okies

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For ranking up I can’t use all elements cells right?

crystal vigil
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You can't

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You can use elemental only if you already have 80 monster cells

strong bison
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You can but only if you got over 80 cells of the monster you want to rank up

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Lol @crystal vigil

little berry
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Anyone skipping babari?

strong bison
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Me

little berry
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I don't have orbs for Babari

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I'm on the edge of skipping..

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So I guess I'm skipping

strong bison
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It depends on if they will buff him or not

little berry
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Imma wait until all warmasters are released until I get my next one

strong bison
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Yeah but then you will lose the blessimg rewards

little berry
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Eh

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Yeah trait as shown in monstagram looks good.. He just needs a more thought out skillset. Coz his current skillset screams of a lack of new innovative ideas

strong bison
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Yep

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I myself wait for the last one

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I gess he will be metal

little berry
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Metal very likely to be a gamechanger

strong bison
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I know

little berry
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I hope he has a trait similar to totems

strong bison
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Nah

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It will be somthing better

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More uniqe

little berry
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But the way its looking right now, whatever element it might be, you're not getting far with a lack of innovation/creativity.
I see trait disable + extra turn being repeated like cancer
Its boring

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What's better than being immune to all negative effects while being able to receive good effects?

strong bison
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Idk that what i am waiting for

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For that better

little berry
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May be hire someone creative SP

strong bison
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The pottanial is huge

little berry
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It is

strong bison
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Like trait disaibeld for all enemys...

little berry
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I hope metal doesn't disappoint.

strong bison
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Yeah

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I dont think it will

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You everyone did you notice the wm pets?

little berry
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I want then in game so bad

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I need necromancers crow :V

strong bison
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I have a good gess about it

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Want to hear it?

little berry
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Sure

strong bison
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Ok so my gess is that after the last wm comes out we will have a chance to get the pets from an additonal denguon

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Cos they already have the animation

echo sundial
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Like to get barbaris pet you need barbari?

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Etc?

little berry
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That'd be cool

strong bison
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Sort of

little berry
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Yes

strong bison
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I wish they will do that

little berry
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Good guess. Not sure if its dungeon.
Gems would pay more

strong bison
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Its also makes sence

echo sundial
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ZšŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

strong bison
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?

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You know what my gess is based of?

gusty siren
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anyone know what the final Babari trait is?

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Is the one in game or on wiki?

mortal bay
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Think wiki

gusty siren
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i havent been following along here

mortal bay
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Damage mirror trait, status caster stam regen

gusty siren
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Ok -weird its in game already

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and wrong

mortal bay
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I might go for him

timid hornet
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@gusty siren We will confirm that tomorrow

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I'm aware Wiki says one thing and the game remains with the same description so it kinda confuses players

gusty siren
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Thanks

ornate oak
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I like that damage mirror.

unreal flume
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if damage mirror is permanent, ppl should stop saying he is bad, cause he is not lol

little berry
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What % is the damage mirror? Is it 100%?

mortal bay
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100

little berry
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That's cool

little berry
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Yeah I’m wondering whether it’s permanent or not.

gusty siren
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yep ill buy him if its damage mirror

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seems a bit op tho as trait

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100% anyways

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maybe 50%

mortal bay
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shhhh

gusty siren
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dont shhh me

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you want another busted monster up there?

mortal bay
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Get rid of the speed meta

fickle acorn
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Ew.

gusty siren
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true

mortal bay
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About to get 1k gems :3

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All going to orbs

gusty siren
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nice

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im at 15k

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ready for new monster

fickle acorn
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Almost 5k here and spent no money. GWvertiPeepoCheer

mortal bay
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Orbs or gems ? :3

gusty siren
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orbs lol

mortal bay
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Haha

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I got 12k

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Got enough gems for another 5k

gusty siren
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nice - ull be fine then

mortal bay
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Plus the 2500 pack

timid hornet
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Lol I just have 8k but keep buying

gusty siren
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8k is good

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saving for barbari specifically? or just saving till good one comes?

worthy scroll
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I got 17K, saving for the metal one

gusty siren
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nice work

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yeah i think it will be pretty hard to mess up the metal one its gonna be good

worthy scroll
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I hope is a good one

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only have a 100 Elvira saving for one that I can rank to 3 or 4

timid hornet
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@gusty siren I don't know if I'm going for Babari, still thinking šŸ¤” I'm sure I'm going for the magic one, I've read she/he is going to be interesting

gusty siren
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Yeah very curious to see magic and metal. Some of these new relics seem great so its definitely worth trying to save up to try and finish. YOu have monsters to complete it if you had orbs?

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i may do babari just for talany mask lol

timid hornet
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Yeah for both elements np at all . . . More in the magic one than the metal because I need it . . . And yeah, I find very interesting these new relics, especially Babari's blessing ones, that Alces amulet and Talany mask are pretty useful as well as the Yamada's essence from last blessing

gusty siren
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Yeah i do like the amulet too - amulets are weakest slot so nice to see something useful

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Yamada essence i like the on hit aspect but other than that i think too much gold and silver

noble coral
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So after Magic warmaster which powerful monster will come next in our history ? šŸ˜†šŸ˜

hasty mortar
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calamities perhaps šŸ™‚ šŸ™ƒ

muted pilot
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Warmasters will be the top tier for a little yet while as they still need to go through and release all the pets.

hasty mortar
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hmm so we are gonna have warmaster pets as monsters ? would be kinda interesting but at the same time what are they gonna do ? it would be really weird if they were stronger than the warmasters themselves šŸ˜„

little berry
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@noble coral war gods probably šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

noble coral
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Hahahhah

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If pets will he released than we need to get more orbs šŸ™

muted pilot
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They will probably buff the WM stats 😱 Of course it will be more orbs
Orbs = revenue

unreal flume
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oh my, i am actually willing to get babari

echo sundial
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?

gusty siren
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waiting for official response on his trait then ill decide šŸ˜‰

ionic tinsel
#

Yami I remember when you said all warmasters are trash

dim lava
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shade...

mortal bay
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Which ones did I say were trash ?

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I'd be happy to clarify

misty elm
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Hmm, Babari's trait on the wiki "Status effects have a 35% less accuracy against her" ... her ... šŸ˜„

unreal flume
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XD

timid hornet
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Mmm that's why some were asking if he is a she lol

misty elm
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So he's Zyla's mother? šŸ˜„

lusty shell
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Oh no

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A father and a mother in one

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šŸ¤”

fresh blaze
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He comes sooo early 😦

polar valve
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yea its a lot earlier than the last one

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given the time difference between the two ofc

kind crane
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Is it out now?

tame beacon
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Nope, starts tomorrow

kind crane
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Sweet

polar valve
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trait still the same, huh?

kind crane
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Has trait and status caster been confirmed yet?

polar valve
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how great to release a wm without confirming the essentials

kind crane
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And were the last skills shown it’s actual ones? Lots of ambiguity surrounding it

tame beacon
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I would treat the in-game version as the real one. Check before starting if it changes, I'll probably do the same and write here if it does

polar valve
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so he is already on monstagram?

tame beacon
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Yes, he's been in there for ages lol

polar valve
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lol

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torture immunity still?

tame beacon
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Torture immunity + damage mirror. Never had anything else in game

kind crane
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Yeah

fresh blaze
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On wiki it was diffrent but well not finished I guess

tame beacon
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I'd also treat the moves we saw as correct, BUT they are taken from fan websites NOT SP. So if they're wrong, SP may have changed it

fresh blaze
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LovƩ lovƩ lovƩ thƩ trait

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But not enough time to grind orbs

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😢

tame beacon
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To be really sure, just do a quick test battle of him before even going near the dungeon and see if things line up

polar valve
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I am kinda disappointed that he has torture immunity

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I firmly believe there were better choices

kind crane
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How long does damage return thing last? 2 turns?

tame beacon
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Yeh

hasty mortar
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if he keeps the torture immunity zahra pretty much becomes pointless literally not even a month after being released

polar valve
#

absolutely

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and she is bad to start with

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Hullhead> Zahra

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less than two weeks after the so called "warmaster" was released, a normal monster surpassed this " warmaster"

misty elm
#

Pretty much yes

polar valve
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can we take the title away from zahra and give it to hullhead pls?

misty elm
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Warmaster Hullhead, yeah šŸ˜„

unreal flume
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I hooe there is 1 month delay for next one

echo sundial
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Same

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Longer breaks the more orbs I can get

gilded coyote
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Fret not weary travelers my name has been updated and a crusade for buffs shall be strove for

worthy scroll
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I think I can kiss goodbye to inmune to trait disable for the metal waster now that there's a block resurrection trait in the game, combining the 2 would be OP

little berry
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:ChadMegaThink:

tame beacon
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well @gusty siren there's no official confirmation, but the text in the updates section talks about his current in-game trait, and it's getting real late in the day for SP to be changing it before they go home for the weekend... I'm gonna guess it's not changing

gilded coyote
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When you think Warmaster you think; great skills, dominant, powerful. Now I believe from Gortak to Thalassa, they've all done great and had great skills even at R0, or had a trait that makes them just undesirable to even go near (looking at you Elvira, who's skills still fit her role great).
Now we bring ourselves upon the latest two, Zahra and Babari. Now Zahra sounded great, has solid "nature" traits and status caster, then you look at her skills. Yes her skills, of which don't get useful until highly ranked, otherwise weak at best and already outclassed by Sgt. Hullhead. Warmasters should be great even at R0, and get even more nightmarish as they are ranked, inflated stats with weak skills don't make them good.
Now to Babari. Who is pathetic skillwise unranked. Low dmg extra turn moves and will still get Anticipated to death by Faraday (granted supposedly still being able to damage reflect Faraday to death). It was only what, several weeks since Zahra's release and we have Babari? He is rushed and it shows in his lackluster skills. Water hater at R1? Weak. Double shock to all enemies isn't bad at R2. Reapply damage mirror and heals himself at R3? I thought he was an attacker not a tank. Disable trait and extra turn at R4? His best skill, which makes sense being R4, he still gets Faraday'd (and Necromancer'd and Sting Westclaw'd).

Fool me once shame on me, fool me twice and it's a trend when it comes to SP. Don't slack and get lackadaisical with what you release, because as of this moment, that's the Warmaster trend.

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Leave that right here, by a fellow named Zealot šŸ˜‰

misty elm
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What do you think about this trait for Babari: Status effects have a 35% less accuracy against him. 50% increased stamina for the ally team (permanent, like Zahra's life buff). Status Caster: Damage Mirror.

tame beacon
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I think his trait isn't changing now unfortunately

misty elm
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Just a suggestion.

tame beacon
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Also that kinda treads on Thalassa's toes. Not that i'm fussed, but part of the complaint is similar traits to other WM

gilded coyote
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He was clearly a rush job, it's a shame, seems like it's gonna be the new warmaster trend, and I agree, they need their own identity

misty elm
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Well yeah (Thalassa gives 100% Stamina for 3 turns, though).

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Or got with the Gortak side: Immune to Control. Status Caster. Damage Mirror.

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But then he's too much like Gortak. Forget I said anything 😦

tame beacon
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If his trait was changed, i'd rather see something unique. Just so that each WM has their own use depending on what the opponent is using

gilded coyote
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I was excited for him, now honestly I am thinking of skipping him, just like how I was against Francine for being a weak designed monster for a capstone to a month of halloween stuff as a race monster, now we have Warmaster Rushjob

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Hopefully we have some kind of actual confirmation of the outcry from the developers, this isn't a trend that should be seen, not if they don't want confidence in them to slip

misty elm
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Yeah, he's too early.

mortal bay
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I'm not gonna bother going for him anymore, they've released him way too soon

little berry
#

I don't really get why the amount of hate Zahra gets is THIS huge... The life buff is getting underrated a bit too much.

gilded coyote
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Id say its this huge when newer monsters they are releasing outclass or stay right beside her, even in the same element

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Warmasters should be top of their element, in their role, she is not top of her element or her role, unless you R4 her, and even then, there are better places for those 8k+ gems to help you in PVP

little berry
#

Meh. Over time, the orbs just flow in for free. All it costs is a bit of patience

crystal vigil
#

a bit

gilded coyote
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Im more salty cause after my misguided disappointment in necromancer i resolved to get thunder...and my patience did not pay off lol

gilded coyote
#

Ready for this? Battle Anticipation - Babari goes first no matter what, was that so hard?

cinder geyser
#

No that's very op
You just need to put 3 x strength runes and you'll wipe out the enemy team with aoe skill

gilded coyote
#

Sorry lemme rephrase

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Battle Anticipation - Babari always goes before anticipation

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otherwise it's normal battle flow based on speed

cinder geyser
#

Oh sorry didn't understood first

gilded coyote
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You're fine, it was poorly worded

mortal bay
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That's still broken

cinder geyser
#

Lol why justice for kassia

gilded coyote
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Hes a warmaster

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A bug that made them change her skills and i rementioned it the other day so making sure i keep it relevant lol, been changed one way for too long with no notice

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Theres tons of other ways to beat him without relying on anticipation, it is far from broken, to say its broken is folly

cinder geyser
#

So you are going to use that name until they fix their skills

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For the better

little berry
#

I prefer the current trait over that, honestly. Counter of a counter seems silly to me, to say the least.

cold sequoia
#

@gilded coyote Necromancer is a good warmaster

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I honestly don't see any fault in him

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He's good in his field

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compared to Zahra

gilded coyote
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@cold sequoia yes initially i thought group 4 were random not unlocked in line and needed a reviver at the time so i didnt go for him, i could have had him r2, with a revive so thats what i meant by misguided, had i known i would have gotten him (and the blessing rewards)

cold sequoia
#

Now Babari

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thats a different case

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its so "INFORMAL"

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The name says it all

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Poor skill choices

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Poor trait choices

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I mean I have seen people spamming team haste or team damage protection as trait caster

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Why not just go with it

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and honestly

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I just wouldn't get a Warmaster for their r4 skill

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Its completely pointless to call a monster the best of its element when it fails to serve its purpose

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Zahra fails to serve her purpose of healing and stamina regen

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but pretty good trait not denying that

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Babari fails the title of being unique as a warmaster

mortal bay
#

Zahra wasn't made to give regen...

cold sequoia
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But a nature monster means

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Supportive or healing

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Thats how its been fed to us

mortal bay
#

But it doesn't

cold sequoia
#

by SP

mortal bay
#

You chose to interpret it that way

crystal vigil
#

then explain The Judgment

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a nature monster

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that is an attacker, not a supporter

cold sequoia
#

I am not saying all nature monsters are attackers

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But all Nature supportive monsters are healers

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Except for Zahra

crystal vigil
#

Talika?

#

she has a heal skill

cold sequoia
#

She has maca

crystal vigil
#

but that isn't her main thing

cold sequoia
#

ginseg

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and quiene

#

that heals

crystal vigil
#

one skill that heals

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and that's it

cold sequoia
#

Yea and thats more than enough

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25% health back is more than enough for a healer

tame beacon
#

Prince Charmless, the perfect healer/support šŸ˜„

cold sequoia
#

very funny

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I am trying to focus on the failed potentials of warmasters

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especially the latest 2

crystal vigil
#

So, in your worldview, Yilitre isn't a supporter?

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i'd say it's a supporter

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but no healing skills

cold sequoia
#

She is a poor supporter is what I am trying to say

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A warmaster can only cast one status caster

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babari casts damg mirror

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so the other must be a trait

drowsy jackal
#

Stamina Regen will last for 3 turns. Just like with Thallasa and Zahra.

hasty mortar
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and sp couldnt come up with something different than the only selling point of their last warmaster

cold sequoia
#

What about damg mirror

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It can't be permanent

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A warmaster has one permanent caster

drowsy jackal
#

I never thought of that. Maybe both are gonna be Status Casters. šŸ¤”

cold sequoia
#

I don't think

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so

tame beacon
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There is no stamina Regen

cold sequoia
#

They are gonna run torture immunity

little berry
#

Aww

cold sequoia
#

and completely ruin Zahra

hasty mortar
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might as well just del zahra from the game basically stole her only quirk

mortal bay
#

Isn't it expected to be aoe damage mirror, and stam regen caster ?

hasty mortar
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yeah but 1 has to be trait and either 1 is broken

mortal bay
#

I said that

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Damage mirror aoe

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Stam regen caster

little berry
#

Give him damage mirror but make it like 25%?

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Idk

tame beacon
#

No. It’s expected to be torture immunity trait and damage mirror status caster

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That’s the trait in game and it’s really unlikely to change before tomorrow

mortal bay
#

I thought that was just incorrectly input into the monstergram ?

hasty mortar
#

trait as doesnt go away in 2-3 turns all warmasters have 1. dmg mirror for the entire game is gg at any lvl

tame beacon
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Nope

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It’s also in the story text that was added today

drowsy jackal
#

They basically just made Zahra useless. Zahra is similar to Elvira, both have amazing traits but not as good skills. Most people got them just cuz of their trait. And here's my question, what's the point of Zahra when Babari does the same thing as her? šŸ¤”

mortal bay
#

Like, pre-emptively

tame beacon
#

Realistically, I tend to trust the ingame trait over a fan website 😃

mortal bay
#

Elvira has very good skills

drowsy jackal
#

Well i mean, compare to other WMs, Elvira's skills aren't as good.

misty elm
#

@tame beacon especially if that website makes Babari female šŸ˜„

hasty mortar
#

remember zahra was supposed to have control immunity but got changed a bit before release we might get the same thing again

mortal bay
#

Warmasters Aura alone is pretty borderline busted

tame beacon
#

Precisely. All they’ve done is found some info somewhere that they don’t know the full details of and assumed it’s the trait. Unfortunately everyone’s believed it over the actual in game trait

drowsy jackal
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That's Elvira's best skill. But other skills aren't as good as her WM Aura.

mortal bay
#

Briefly talking about Zahra, she actually does have a heal to an extent

cold sequoia
#

I don't think they would change his trait the day before release

#

thats so unlike SP

mortal bay
#

They've done similar in the past

hasty mortar
#

hmm zahra can heal wait what

cold sequoia
#

Zahra can't heal

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Seriously

mortal bay
#

To an extent she can

misty elm
#

How?

hasty mortar
#

yeah essences

mortal bay
#

No

cold sequoia
#

With so many options like Team haste and damage protection trait

mortal bay
#

Well kinda

cold sequoia
#

they choose torture immunity

tame beacon
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They have done similar I’d agree. But like all information, Including Taringa information, it’s always better to assume official sources are more accurate

mortal bay
#

When she get's revived, her 50% extra life activates again. So any alive allies receive extra hp

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Healing them to an extent

misty elm
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They revert to the earlier stage. The health percentages stay the same.

drowsy jackal
#

SP might aswell give Zahra Area Regen. šŸ˜…

gilded coyote
#

That's a stretch if I ever saw one

cold sequoia
#

such a waste of potential

#

Zahra and Babari

mortal bay
#

Well Babari isn't official yet

cinder geyser
#

His dungeons start tomorrow so it may be official

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Glad i got thalassa and necromancer

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And for not refunding thalassa for an upcoming WM šŸ˜†

cold sequoia
#

Ikr

unreal flume
#

babari balanced, chunge my mind

mortal bay
#

He's looking like the perfect medium for Warmasters so far

frail pawn
#

barbari starts tomorrow?

unreal flume
#

agree Yami

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and yes @frail pawn

worthy scroll
#

Magic warmaster attack, transmogrification, for the next 3 turns, the enemy monster is a hayman

hasty mortar
#

why would a warmaster lose you the battle in such a tragic way.

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3x hayman will dominate any team

little berry
#

Do you know how overpowered that would be. Imagine fighting not 1, not 4, but 3 hayman?!

#

Heck 1 hayman can destroy an entire team of just warmasters. Imagine what 3 could destroy

hasty mortar
#

3x 130 haymans with X runes oh boi thats an insta loss

worthy scroll
#

Lol

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Just a single one, not aoe

#

Just for it not to be OP

little berry
#

Thorder stands a chance against Hayman

crystal vigil
#

no, he's screwed

worthy scroll
#

No, only firesaur can

little berry
#

What about his Majesty, the mythical VIP Treezard?

crystal vigil
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thundhare has a mega special skill that is available when facing hayman that has 0.1% chance to kill the entire enemy team though

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also he's not mythical, i have him :wesmart:

little berry
#

I had a few

crystal vigil
#

i have 1 r5

little berry
#

But I forgot they were special

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And I cooked them

worthy scroll
#

Mythical sounds like a new monster series actually

little berry
#

facepalm

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It's already a thing in DC. The Mythical VIPs

worthy scroll
#

Oh, was not aware

fleet knoll
little berry
#

:DrakeYea:

hasty mortar
#

defeat warthak um... ok

little berry
#

Oof

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Poor Warthak.

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Boi has two WM’s gunning for him.

drowsy jackal
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😢

little berry
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Okay but why did the thunder wm have to kick out poor frostbite and the other water mons from the mountain? Couldn't they have shared the mountain jeesh.

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Right.

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Babari is just as evil as Warthak, really.

drowsy jackal
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Cuz Thunder and Water are enemies, if that makes sence. šŸ˜…

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Babari isn't in Evil Legions, Sapphire. šŸ˜‰

little berry
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So what? There are monsters who do not deserve to be there and those who do, aren't

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Babari did the same thing, except what he did was arguably worse because he forced the poor things to leave their peaceful home after centuries.

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Where can I find what you guys are reading from?

hasty mortar
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so he didnt kill em ?

little berry
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Updates Section

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Makes some sense, but aren't WM's supposed to be kind? Like;

Gortak - He's helping save the dwarfs from Warthak

Barbael - He's an demon raised to be an angel so it's obvious that he's good.

Elvira - is an angel

Zahra - Pretty much the "mother nature" of ML

Thalassa - Thetys Mom. Moms are generally kind and caring.

I honestly don't know about necromancer so :P

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@hasty mortar Nobody ever dies in the intro stories so...

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Barbael is a demon raised and trained to be an angel** :P

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Necromancer is just some weird boi living in a basement

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^

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He was a respected professor

hasty mortar
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^^ šŸ˜‚

little berry
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That's for the correction Sapphire

drowsy jackal
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Everyone in the Dark element is evil so, Necro is a villain i guess. šŸ˜…

little berry
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Zahra is clearly a good gal. Like... She didn't even banish or hurt Nadiel in any way (though they stretched the story and evilized him for her bio. If u read Nadiel's story, all he wanted was to end the nature element being constantly abused)

drowsy jackal
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Yeah, and he's not in Evil Legions.

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😧

little berry
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@drowsy jackal Nah. Necromancer was clearly displayed as a good or at least, neutral guy.

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Tsk. Firyna is in Evil Legions and her bio days she uses her powers for good. Don't trust the books!

hasty mortar
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basement guy is always neutral guy šŸ˜„

drowsy jackal
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Necro must have been a hated teacher/profesor. šŸ˜‚

hasty mortar
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i wonder if there is some stuff between him an flawless šŸ˜‚

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gotta expect count vlad to get kicked from that castle either by cain or necro or both mhm

little berry
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Huh? No... He was a respected, known contributor to their community; he simply had to leave because he couldn't just trash all his work. The council or whatever decided that necromancy was too dark for the academy

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Yeah... What is Cain gonna do with the fact a Warmaster is living in HIS castle?

hasty mortar
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there might be an alliance between necro and cain. cain gets his castle back, necro stays and takes flawless as wife, vlad is killed/banished. And in season 3 returns to dish out some justice šŸ˜‚

little berry
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Omfg šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

drowsy jackal
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Sounds like a good movie. šŸ˜…

little berry
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Again. Cain is evil to the bone. Necromancer isn't. So... I can't really see an alliance or anything in those lines

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What makes you say Necro isn’t evil tho? I thought it was kinda left open.

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I dunno about Elvira though... The story said she "decided to do something good" so she didn't on daily basis? She's quite bossy, too...

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Hang on

drowsy jackal
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I don't understand how Elvira isn't in Good Legions, she trained Barbael!

little berry
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He was just experimenting

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And leaving was hard for him

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O

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For the Science and such

hasty mortar
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maybe gets revenge on the accademy for banishing him

drowsy jackal
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So, Necro is Dark but he's a profesor at the Superior Academy of Magic?

little berry
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They didn't BANISH him šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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Still wish they tied in the Dark WM with Sammy’s lore. So much potential there especially with the way they set up Sammy’s brother.

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He quit willingly. There is no bad blood between him and the faculty

hasty mortar
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thats what necro wants you to think

drowsy jackal
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It's still a mystery on who is Sammy's baby bro.

hasty mortar
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his heart is slowly growing dark

little berry
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Nope

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The name's Ismael

hasty mortar
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until he goes full on evil

little berry
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Pretty sure those stories never break the 4th wall to trick readers. They state things as they are. And Necro is not evil. No need to try and look into it.

hasty mortar
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making experiments with life and death on monsters- ok no evil here

little berry
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I'd like to see Samael & Necro gang up on Nishant

Like... Samael for revenge obviously, Necromancer to fix the dark army's reputation and form an alliance with the Nemesis

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Necro is just Bill Nye if he could resurrect things :DrakeYea:

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Oh I dunno. What about Da Vinci's experiments? šŸ˜‚

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Nishant just needs to die tbh

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He's been an aaanus for way too long

hasty mortar
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necro is just doctor viktor but too broke to afford electricity

little berry
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Isn’t Sammy supposed to be Uriel or was that just a theory?

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Theory

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Oof

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And a wrong one :/

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:SmolConcern:

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What we need

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Is a panoramic pic of Necro & Samael ripping Nishant apart. MAKE IT GORY!

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That'd be pure art

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Epitome of beauty

hasty mortar
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gets protected by nishants bg

little berry
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Babari isn’t that bad, makes sense to me that he isn’t in either Evil or Good Legions.

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I’d say up until leaving Zyla he was arguably Good Legions material. Then again it could be argued that if he didn’t go the Titans could’ve caused a lot more destruction.

harsh cedar
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He's balanced šŸ˜„

little berry
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As all things should be

nova carbon
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Noooooo! How dareth thou bring that sad ending up!

little berry
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You should’ve went for the ban

nova carbon
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Noooo xD

frail pawn
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barbari analysis by Armor is now out

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imma watch it... i dont know anything about him yet

cold sequoia
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Oof

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His torutre immunity

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is perm

little berry
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Eh does that mean damage mirror is status caster

cold sequoia
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ye

little berry
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Apparently if you are possessed, the damage is returned to yourself which is worse than no damage mirror šŸ¤”

quaint estuary
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Is the date of the thalassa refund announced ?

little berry
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I’m pretty sure it already passed.

rancid bough
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What runes is everyone using on Zahra?

little berry
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:SmolConcern:

quaint estuary
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No the date they actually take it from u

muted pilot
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Looking forward to setting up Barbi, Gelotron and Gortak pvp team šŸ˜Ž #onehiteonders šŸš€

noble coral
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Does 2 upcoming warmaster will be OP like gorthak and elvira?

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I am waiting for Magic šŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ˜

cinder geyser
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Thalassa is the best one yet

noble coral
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Yeah

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You need to clear postitive status effect from enemies when they have recently freeze to run again ;)

cinder geyser
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She has 3 skills with remove positive effects

noble coral
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Group 4 i think

cinder geyser
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One in group 2
Two on group 4
And the other is her special

smoky trellis
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When should we get Thalassa refund?

wide python
little berry
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Is the fire warmaster worth to get it?

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I'd say yes, but he shouldn't be your priority imo.

tall cedar
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If you are trying for a lvl 100 wm. No

little berry
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At 100, Elvira is unarguably the best

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Alright, thanks guys'.

smoky trellis
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Ty @wide python , u r so lovely ā™”

hasty mortar
drowsy jackal
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Good job, enjoy your new or very first WM. 😃

echo sundial
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Is Zahra useless now then?

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cuz Babari just gives torture immunity lol

hasty mortar
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torture immunity that doesnt go away in 3 turns too

unreal flume
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13 fulem cells?!?!?!

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gimme

echo sundial
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@hasty mortar u might need some more thunder cells

hasty mortar
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i wonder if there is an offer on thunder cells šŸ˜‚

ionic tinsel
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50% extra life though

echo sundial
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meh

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not in the meta

ionic tinsel
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That’s nice

echo sundial
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and

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either way

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100% damage mirror > 50% more life

ionic tinsel
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Tanks are evolving into the meta so Zahra will too

unreal flume
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50% shield>50% more life

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no she wont

ionic tinsel
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She will

unreal flume
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i cant wait for more gravediggers to come

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she wont

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i dont wanna arhgue now, realize it yourself

hasty mortar
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zahra really just needs her skills scrapped and made all over again from scratch

echo sundial
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ye

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offer a refund like with thal

little berry
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A team of a Zahra, Samael and Necromancer built for survival will be extremely powerful.

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You won't need denile with that. And, dare I say, if my not very 130 monsters can recover from Deep Warmaster Fury, so could this team.

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@unreal flume Abomination is better than Gravedigger. The Resurrection Blocker is a separate trait. Had it not been the case, Undertaker would have it also.

unreal flume
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Rez blocker then haa

cold sequoia
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Oh wow

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its just sad

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Babari can heamself

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but Zahra can't

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this is sad

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himself*

tacit mason
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When we get barbeal

misty elm
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so like iMigbo, again ...

proud leaf
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in the TestBattle of the Monster I can use this skill. But the translation between english and german shows me 2 absolutely different skills. Is there a translation issue to german or the skill wrong in english?

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it is in the test battle the right skill of the Warmaster!!!

misty elm
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My german is a bit rusty, but I can see it's completely different. šŸ¤”

little berry
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German description is completely messed up

misty elm
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The german says something like this: Removes positive status effects from one enemy. Applies Shock to all enemies. 50% chance of disabling trait on all enemies. Requires cooldown.

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@proud leaf is it right?

cold sequoia
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Welp he's not entirely useless in 100

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He's pretty good

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with that damg mirror

proud leaf
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@misty elm your translation is correct. I can see in test battle, that Warmaster acts like the english skill description

timid hornet
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@proud leaf well then the Spanish description is messed up too

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I just saw your SS with the english description and compared and in spanish says something completely different

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Saw the German one and it's the same as in Spanish

proud leaf
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@timid hornet so SP has something to fix.... whatever 😃

echo sundial
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What was SP thinking when they made Zahra

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and then after seeing what people thought of her

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made one of her few uses get completely outclassed by the next one

timid hornet
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@proud leaf yes, need some fixing there, I'm sure that'd be done

tame beacon
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Or in the test battle, you can just give yourself as many moves as you like. Load em up.

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Yeh it seems in some other languages the text is the old move text. It seems when they changed the moves before releasing them to us, they forgot to move to localised translations to prod.

little berry
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Is there something wrong with Babari's damage mirror skill? Once he applies it, it never times out

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Skill name is Bolts Aura

tame beacon
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Yup it’s bugged. Will be looked at on Monday I think

pale fiber
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We got 2 underwhelming warmasters b2b i hope the final 2 are worth it

little berry
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Babari good tho

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Why are these WMs bugged at the time of their release? All these bugs make them stronger..
Is someone trying to sell them?

drowsy jackal
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I don't think any WM except for Babari and Elvira had bugs. Babari with his Special attack giving him 3 turns insted of 1, and Elvira with her Evasion not blocking Possesion or something.

little berry
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Zahra

misty elm
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Because SP rushed him, that's why he's bugged

drowsy jackal
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Yeah and Zahra aswell. I totally forgot about her. šŸ˜…

little berry
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I feel the quality is dropping..

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Francine has a horrible design. And the last 2 WMs have skills that look like it wasn't really from experienced people

ionic tinsel
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Yeah the quality is dropping so they aren’t completely broken breaking the meta

lusty shell
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design

ornate oak
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Well Cain’s design is pretty dope.

little berry
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Zahra is fancy too.

unreal flume
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babari lit

hasty mortar
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i still think his name is barbari instead of babari for some reason šŸ˜„

noble coral
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Lol this warmaster is op espemcially his special skill if you use it one time you gain 3 extra turn per 1 hit monster

little berry
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Bad design doesn’t mean drop in quality. I call Francine a bad design because I don’t like it, not that the artwork itself is bad.

ebon stirrup
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Is it worth going for the thunder warmaster

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Anyone?

little berry
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I’m going for him, he’s definitely a good monster but really depends on the person how useful he’ll be.

mortal bay
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@noble coral That's a bug

ebon stirrup
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Ty im gonna start getting him now

cold sequoia
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He's a good warmaster

little berry
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:DrakeYea:

little berry
mortal bay
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Easily

little berry
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Thanks

ionic tinsel
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Unless your worse then the ai

tall cedar
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Auto 4x + Ai