#monster-discussion
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Well, true
I intend to rank her. Lol
I meant the Uriel Essence bug. Was it fixed?
It is in the 7.2.4 version
yes
I already use that version
But I was really hoping a healing skill from Zahra
Then yes, it's fixed
And I also tested the dungeons. My Cloud used Charge With Me on my Uther, and he used the aoe 50 special skill. So, it's a good start š
With those team life runes, Flamerion's HP goes from 50k to 100k. Yay
Maybe I can put demise/Cloud on defense
Even Necromancer
Also, I want that Flamerion š
Yeah... He's from the Olympus Grand Prix. Boy, wasn't that fun. And expensive.
I didn't qualify.
Aww. Anywho. Let's stay on topic š
Some people dump it for Yager Round
(Yeah)
So... Until you get enough for the Unstoppable Dwarf, hold it
𤣠hi
Hi
Little sleepy, but good , thank you.
im dead to be honest
Splendid, apart from the fact I'm sick & the fever is getting on my nerves.
I love Zahra! (Staying on topic, tactically)
š±
š¢ i feel bad
Hmm... Let's move to #talk-to-rocks. This may turn into a whole thing
ok
I will rank my Warmonsters after all of them are released
I am gonna try and hog as many X runes
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Babari is in the Dragons book...
Odd... whatās the other one outside that and exclusive?
I assume good/evil legions, whichever he is
Next week dragon family exclusive, but would love seeing him in superheroes more than family
Families
Why Dragon? š¤
When youāre Zylaās dad but look nothing like her and youāre in Dragons book but arenāt a dragon.
But Ixofex is also in the Dragon book and he's an alien parasite. He looks nothing like a dragon.
Weird š¤
Thanks š
He is on the dragons book? wow
didn't knew
I wonder about the missing parents LOL
Zylas' mother now
Tethys dad
it would be fun for a new series of monsters
His pet may qualify as a dragon.. May be that's why
But no pets were seen in the game. In this case Necromancer should be in the Winged book because he has a crow pet ...
No.
@misty elm
Thalassa is a female and she is not on female book i think it works randomly
@cinder geyser Same thing with Llum...
The book are not assigned randomly - legendaries are essentially restricted to three books per monster.
Theyāre probably just wanting to spread them out so there isnāt huge overlap
sad i cant getb war masters
I am waiting for last warmaster
He is gonna tweak all stuff š he will tremble all Ml he is the the best maybe is she dont know
Just noticed that in wiki, babari's trait is damage mirror to allies. Since its a trait, does it last forever?
His trait in the wiki and in the game are different. If the wiki is correct, then yes it lasts until trait disable, however if in game is correct its a status caster
Meaning it will last 1 turn?
Spanish wiki says 2
2 turns is neat. 1 turn is bad
I think itād be quite nice as itād semi counter anticipation as well
yeah
Yeah so itād suit higher health teams. As if you attacked, fara for example countered. You could ohk him with his own damage
oof might be because wiki hasnt added s4 yet
Nah itās just meh, needs a bit of tweaking. Will see if anything happens
rn he just seems like a bad-electric-babearal
he seems better than barbael to me hahah, and definitely than zahra too
wat
how is he better then barbaerl
barba gives total blind + trait disable
and barba's trait is attack based
where has barbari's trait seems to be leaning to that of a tanks
and barbari just gives blind with no trait disable or not even on an aoe
He's rank 4 when it comes to warmasters
Well monster legends are trying to bring tanks into meta
With Zahra. Babari, fullmen, hullhead and Francine
hullhead acctually looks hella good
when/if we get a status caster immune to control, the tank meta will be viable imo
I might get him
The only ones I can get is barbari and magic
For this I have VoltaiK Alex Bone and Thordor
105 115 110
And for magic I have Goldfield and Xiron and Scarr
Talany Mask gives 9195-31340 armor at start of battle to all allies
Alces Amulet heals wearer by 19845-62705 when below 50% life
Creds Sonnor
Taken from monster-wiki to be fair š
Added in some typos which yami corrected š
Anyone know how many orbs deep into floor 6 to get R4?
To get a Rank 4 WM, you need to complete 5 floors, not 6. Also, it's gonna cost you 8,200 Orbs for a Rank 4 WM i believe.
I will skip barbari
Floor 5 only gets you to rank 3 doesn't it? 660 Cells
You get a R3 warmaster at Floor 5
Nani?
R4 and 5 are in floor 6
Yup, and that alone costs 13000 orbs
Oh right I forgot there was a sixth floor
6th is another 6750
Hmm, then it's gonna cost you over 10,000 Orbs mate.
So who hereās mad at the fact an attacker based WM got an infinite Torture immunity trait but the nature wm who was the first one to have it didnāt....
Like they just made Zahra so incredibly useless
Depending on group 4 skills when they are released I may not need R4 depending on what you unlock when
Goodluck with that.
Thank you, luck not needed though :D, orb counts needed though lol
His trait is different on the wiki
Damage mirror to all allies, status caster is stamina regen
Ah didn't know he's in game, checks out
So unless they plan on changing it
Which I really hope they do
I donāt want Zahra to be completely useless
SG4 skills are already out too
where are they? I just need to know what unlocks at what level
Wiki
it makes r5 zahra a complete waste of orbs
Stamina Regeneration would be nice. Especily when i called it. š
Huh, I'm only seeing group 3 skillgroup
She not useless at all just a different monster for a different situation. However look at how many useless nemesis there are.
The moves are on taringa but not wiki
oof them shots fired
Give SP time. They never added Nadiel SG4 skills.
SG4
She is pretty bad but she will be even worse once Babari comes live
it's in english and spanish wikia š
can you link sonnor?
She's a support and barbi is an attacker so it's more about the team build. But let's see. I think it's more about rune set up more than ever, not just he who denies first wins
Also @gilded coyote to answer your original question (as I don't think anyone answered it), R4 is 2400 orbs into floor 6
It adds more depth to game play
we r saying buff zahra
he might be my new go to thunder monster
Thanks much again Sonnor! according to wiki I will need R4 for that trait disable skill
water hater is dumb lol, just sayin
Why? Do you think she needs a buff and what specifically?
Cause hereās the thing right; SP basically stole Zahras one niche that made her very good combined with her HP increase; Torture immunity. U canāt burn through that health she gives. However since itās not infinite it can be A) CDA B) remove positive effects. And combined with the surge of trait disable slowly coming in the game it makes her a bit hard to use. Her skills in general are also a bit meh.
trait
So my idea is give the torture immunity trait to Zahra instead of Barbari
The ones thatās infinite
No lol
we dont even know if its gonna be the trait we see for sure
She can remove negative effects from the team right?
And change the skills that give torture immunity to something else like poison or even double dmg
sp might pull a sneaky on us in the last min
Iām hoping they do see this and do change his trait at least
Even if Zahra doesnāt get buffed atleast make her the only wm to have Torture immunity to make her stand out a bit more
on the wiki it shows stamina regen not zahras trait
in game it shows torture immunity
Huh......?
i doubt sp would release 2 warmasters with the same trait
prob would
x to doubt
I have hope they wonāt
this is sp
Also why does the trait say āherā
um 3 warmasters left they could probably make their traits different
its barbie dressed up? nani?
So wait u mean that trait on the wiki rn is a permanent dmg mirror? Thatād pretty noice
perm dmg mirror would be dope for a wm
or a perm dmg increase/decrease of 10-20%
Are you mad
barbael already got the dmg boost thing
no1 said its staying
likewise
it could have just been a place holder in the game
and He's coming in 2 days or so
like sp cant change anything about him at any time...
on the wiki it shows stamina regen as the status caster thing
which wiki?
Warmaster Babari - Type: Legendary - Elements: Legend, Thunder - Special attack: Axe Devastation - Babari was the leader of the Thunder Warriors. They conquered a mountain so high they could reach into the sky and summon massive Thunderstorms. When he left with the Warmasters...
what is a war master?
They are mosnters that are suppose to be the strongest in the game
except for a few
Hm... What would you think if the magic WM's trait looked like this:
"Tough + Area Immunity to Stamina Drain + Status Caster: Area Random Traits for 3 turns (with exclusion of Bulwark, Nemesis and Warmaster traits)" ?
Did you just ask if Babari is a guy or a girl?
I hope this isn't gonna be Dungeon Master all over again
Zyla's Dad
how do you get war masters
by using heroic orbs in their dungeons
What is your level?
I think you need to be level 40 to be able to see the dungeons right?
Where can I see barbaris s4 skills
Lol
Warmaster Babari - Type: Legendary - Elements: Legend, Thunder - Special attack: Axe Devastation - Babari was the leader of the Thunder Warriors. They conquered a mountain so high they could reach into the sky and summon massive Thunderstorms. When he left with the Warmasters...
He doesnāt seem great
He seems like heās on the same level as Zahra
i kinda like him already
Why?
He is an extra turner with stam regen trait
Meh he canāt loop his extra turns tho
And dmg mirror trait
well dmg mirror to all allies that would discourage voltaik players from attacking me in war (i hope). + he can kill 1 monster with those 2 extra turns. i really hoped for anticipation but this works just fine imo
Which will go after he uses extra turn moves
He needs a buff tbh. His trait is good, but his skills at 100 are just so bland I feel like heās a standard monster that came out like a year ago lol.
He's pretty good
It's to shake up the speed meta. With a life rune or two he and the team can wipe out the enemy without even taking a turn
Yep
imagine zahra and him on def oh boi...
Oof
For lvl 100, he's not that bad. He's actually good
I kinda like him
And if he will have someone puting 3x dmg on him .... wow
Same Yami
His damage mirror is AOE right?
Just want to see the SG4 moves and cool downs
Doubt I'll get him, but he looks pretty nice
He seems like the made in china version of barbaerl
Ohhhhhhhhh
I have his SG4
@muted pilot itās on wiki
Every warmaster has extra turns but Elviraš¤£
Lol demo
revenge is cold: target:single damage:70 precision:95 stamina:41 cooldown:1 effect:applies water hater on himself
deep thunder: target:multiple damage:40 precision:95 stamina:32 cooldown:3 effect:applies shock 2 times
bolts aura: target: all allies damage:0 precision:100 stamina:29 cooldown:3 effect:heals by 35%, applies 100% damage mirror
family chains: target:single damage:50 precision:95 stamina:42 cooldown:3 effect: trait disable and recieve an extra turn
elvira doesnt need em š
Ikš
Right
It's a fact only
Different monsters for different uses. The damage mirror if for the whole team until then move. A Timmy style reflect all would be very tasty āŗļø
Overall he could be a hell of a lot better
He is good now
Thanks @mortal bay
He is sure
Yep
4th best
a timi reflect would be op you use an extra turn but get 2x turns
For lvl 130, he isn't that good to work on imo
Yami whats your ranking?
He's better than Zahra, Barbael and Gortak
Probably gonna get him regardless cause his design and lore lit plus the blessings :DrakeYea:
Barbael is the worst one..
Lol
I would do thalassa>Elvira>necro>Babari>Zahra>Gortak>Barbael
I think necro is a bag of poo #controversy haha
Elvira is the best
poor barbael
I actually like gortak rip
Zahra behind Gortak imo but overall thatās about how Iād do it Demo
1.) Elvira
2.) Thalassa
3.) Necro
4.) Babari
5.) Gortak
6.) Zahra
7.) Barbael
Elvira above thalassaš¤
Thalassa is a beast that's a fact
Babri is 5th for me
Thalassa is a whole lot broken in her normal skills too
Elvira is the best
She doesnāt need her ult lol
Yo zizoo sup?
130 Thalassa > 130 Elvira.
100 Elvira > 100 Thalassa.
Imo
^^
Yep @harsh cedar
2300
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I gotta wait for metal. I feel he will have status caster like: immune to trait disable and allies skills never go in cooldown for 3 turns
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I donāt think he would have that tbh
That would be next level cancer
He would be a pain
Status caster immunity to cda for 3 turns doesn't sound that bad
Erm
Metal exclusive monsters have always been great and so will be the wm
Self Artifact/Tough, AoE Cooldown Protection, Status Caster allies receive an x% shield.
Armour + Trap/Sword relic slots
Iāve never thought of Metal Exclusive monsters being āgreatā but they havenāt been bad. I think Metal as a whole is great tho.
Talos isnāt that great. Heās definitely a really good attacker, but heās always been the backseat to Timerion for top Metal monster.
Why the universal hate for barbael?
^
total blind + trait disable doesnt seem too bad xd
and his high speed means he's practically always going first
His skills have blind, not total blind. And his speed is nothing more than average
That being said, I don't think he is that bad. It will all depend on the trait, so the jury is still out
Thunder WM skills look a little underwhelming
Ah I totally thought he had an aoe total blind in his group 4 skills
Yea more I Look at Barbari's skills (cause Babari is dumb) the more it's not really in line
Especially group 3 skills? They're terrible
If he isnt R4 no one should bother
Yeah.. Last skill of Group3 is a plain 30 damage aoe.
New warmasters are lacking that oomph
Yea him and Zhara are really lacking
You shouldn't need to rank them to be good, they should be Nemesis level at least unranked
Not ranked nemesis level
Lemme clarify
What's his face will still one shot babari if hes the earth one, he will die with damage mirror but he'll still one shot him
@lusty ruin I was talking about barbaerl
Who does have total blind
And iirc the highest speed
Zahra is still the worst wm
Yep
I won't say
and babari having a similar trait/effect to Zahra just undermines Zahra even more
Zahra combined with Samael can be a devastating offense team
Yep
anyone combined with Samael can be a devastating offense team
and now Hullhead is even better than Zahra
But he is insane
does nobody from SP like Zahra or what
Double life can be tricky sometimes
How good do u guys think the thunder warmaster is an is he worth going for??
It depends
Heās pretty good, his skills are underwhelming but he has a nice trait.
I hope his skills get a smol buff.
Most people class him between 4th and 7th best out of all WM. So heās about in the bottom half.
:PeepoCry:
why most ppl think gortak is actually worse than babari? especially Shieda LOL
i like gortak lol
I think trait and status caster wise, babari is still better than zahra.
Skillwise too babari wins.
And babari is overall not WM kind of impressive. That just shows Zahra is that bad
I think itās cause his trait. Makes attacking Babari and his team dangerous, plus considered Gortak and Babariās skills their damage output should be fairly similar at 100.
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But Babari can be denied, Gortak is immune to control (don't tell me about trait disabling, because both of them are equally weak to it). Only Stop Time works against him (yes, he can be blinded, but he can easily remove it). Although that Damage Mirror could kill an enemy attacker if it's not careful.
You can control Babari but not reliably. And even if you do youāre gonna have to jump through hoops to attack him.
Gortak tho :DrakeYea:
Remove positive effects > basically every status caster
Wouldnāt it be cool if we had a status caster that did something to the enemy?
Like guard down status caster or something
That's a good shout
Pretty sure that idea was born in SP's minds while making the Heroic Dungeons' battle conditions xD
When the magic war master comes out
Will 105 Xiron Ruby and 120 Goldfield be able to win it for me
Or should I get my Scarr to 105
For lvl100 wm?
Cos when i got elvira i did oto fightš
Ok for lvl 100 i dont think you need to but maybe
Cos at the start of each battle something heppens it can be control immuntiy cooldown actived ...
Yeah but is it enogh?
I have healing mask on my Xiron + Goldfied has 0cds so I assume Xiron would live through cda
Hmmm
I still think if you will have an attaker like that vip it might come handy...
You can but only if you got over 80 cells of the monster you want to rank up
Lol @crystal vigil
Anyone skipping babari?
Me
I don't have orbs for Babari
I'm on the edge of skipping..
So I guess I'm skipping
It depends on if they will buff him or not
Imma wait until all warmasters are released until I get my next one
Yeah but then you will lose the blessimg rewards
Eh
Yeah trait as shown in monstagram looks good.. He just needs a more thought out skillset. Coz his current skillset screams of a lack of new innovative ideas
Metal very likely to be a gamechanger
I know
I hope he has a trait similar to totems
But the way its looking right now, whatever element it might be, you're not getting far with a lack of innovation/creativity.
I see trait disable + extra turn being repeated like cancer
Its boring
What's better than being immune to all negative effects while being able to receive good effects?
May be hire someone creative SP
The pottanial is huge
It is
Like trait disaibeld for all enemys...
I hope metal doesn't disappoint.
Sure
Ok so my gess is that after the last wm comes out we will have a chance to get the pets from an additonal denguon
Cos they already have the animation
That'd be cool
Sort of
Yes
I wish they will do that
Good guess. Not sure if its dungeon.
Gems would pay more
Its also makes sence
Zšš
Think wiki
i havent been following along here
Damage mirror trait, status caster stam regen
I might go for him
@gusty siren We will confirm that tomorrow
I'm aware Wiki says one thing and the game remains with the same description so it kinda confuses players
Thanks
I like that damage mirror.
if damage mirror is permanent, ppl should stop saying he is bad, cause he is not lol
What % is the damage mirror? Is it 100%?
100
That's cool
Yeah Iām wondering whether itās permanent or not.
yep ill buy him if its damage mirror
seems a bit op tho as trait
100% anyways
maybe 50%
shhhh
Get rid of the speed meta
Ew.
true
Almost 5k here and spent no money. 
Orbs or gems ? :3
orbs lol
nice - ull be fine then
Plus the 2500 pack
Lol I just have 8k but keep buying
I got 17K, saving for the metal one
nice work
yeah i think it will be pretty hard to mess up the metal one its gonna be good
I hope is a good one
only have a 100 Elvira saving for one that I can rank to 3 or 4
@gusty siren I don't know if I'm going for Babari, still thinking š¤ I'm sure I'm going for the magic one, I've read she/he is going to be interesting
Yeah very curious to see magic and metal. Some of these new relics seem great so its definitely worth trying to save up to try and finish. YOu have monsters to complete it if you had orbs?
i may do babari just for talany mask lol
Yeah for both elements np at all . . . More in the magic one than the metal because I need it . . . And yeah, I find very interesting these new relics, especially Babari's blessing ones, that Alces amulet and Talany mask are pretty useful as well as the Yamada's essence from last blessing
Yeah i do like the amulet too - amulets are weakest slot so nice to see something useful
Yamada essence i like the on hit aspect but other than that i think too much gold and silver
So after Magic warmaster which powerful monster will come next in our history ? šš
calamities perhaps š š
Warmasters will be the top tier for a little yet while as they still need to go through and release all the pets.
hmm so we are gonna have warmaster pets as monsters ? would be kinda interesting but at the same time what are they gonna do ? it would be really weird if they were stronger than the warmasters themselves š
@noble coral war gods probably ššš
They will probably buff the WM stats š± Of course it will be more orbs
Orbs = revenue
oh my, i am actually willing to get babari
?
waiting for official response on his trait then ill decide š
Yami I remember when you said all warmasters are trash
shade...
Hmm, Babari's trait on the wiki "Status effects have a 35% less accuracy against her" ... her ... š
XD
Mmm that's why some were asking if he is a she lol
So he's Zyla's mother? š
He comes sooo early š¦
yea its a lot earlier than the last one
given the time difference between the two ofc
Is it out now?
Nope, starts tomorrow
Sweet
trait still the same, huh?
Has trait and status caster been confirmed yet?
how great to release a wm without confirming the essentials
And were the last skills shown itās actual ones? Lots of ambiguity surrounding it
I would treat the in-game version as the real one. Check before starting if it changes, I'll probably do the same and write here if it does
so he is already on monstagram?
Yes, he's been in there for ages lol
Torture immunity + damage mirror. Never had anything else in game
Yeah
On wiki it was diffrent but well not finished I guess
I'd also treat the moves we saw as correct, BUT they are taken from fan websites NOT SP. So if they're wrong, SP may have changed it
To be really sure, just do a quick test battle of him before even going near the dungeon and see if things line up
I am kinda disappointed that he has torture immunity
I firmly believe there were better choices
How long does damage return thing last? 2 turns?
Yeh
if he keeps the torture immunity zahra pretty much becomes pointless literally not even a month after being released
absolutely
and she is bad to start with
Hullhead> Zahra
less than two weeks after the so called "warmaster" was released, a normal monster surpassed this " warmaster"
Pretty much yes
can we take the title away from zahra and give it to hullhead pls?
Warmaster Hullhead, yeah š
I hooe there is 1 month delay for next one
Fret not weary travelers my name has been updated and a crusade for buffs shall be strove for
I think I can kiss goodbye to inmune to trait disable for the metal waster now that there's a block resurrection trait in the game, combining the 2 would be OP
:ChadMegaThink:
well @gusty siren there's no official confirmation, but the text in the updates section talks about his current in-game trait, and it's getting real late in the day for SP to be changing it before they go home for the weekend... I'm gonna guess it's not changing
When you think Warmaster you think; great skills, dominant, powerful. Now I believe from Gortak to Thalassa, they've all done great and had great skills even at R0, or had a trait that makes them just undesirable to even go near (looking at you Elvira, who's skills still fit her role great).
Now we bring ourselves upon the latest two, Zahra and Babari. Now Zahra sounded great, has solid "nature" traits and status caster, then you look at her skills. Yes her skills, of which don't get useful until highly ranked, otherwise weak at best and already outclassed by Sgt. Hullhead. Warmasters should be great even at R0, and get even more nightmarish as they are ranked, inflated stats with weak skills don't make them good.
Now to Babari. Who is pathetic skillwise unranked. Low dmg extra turn moves and will still get Anticipated to death by Faraday (granted supposedly still being able to damage reflect Faraday to death). It was only what, several weeks since Zahra's release and we have Babari? He is rushed and it shows in his lackluster skills. Water hater at R1? Weak. Double shock to all enemies isn't bad at R2. Reapply damage mirror and heals himself at R3? I thought he was an attacker not a tank. Disable trait and extra turn at R4? His best skill, which makes sense being R4, he still gets Faraday'd (and Necromancer'd and Sting Westclaw'd).
Fool me once shame on me, fool me twice and it's a trend when it comes to SP. Don't slack and get lackadaisical with what you release, because as of this moment, that's the Warmaster trend.
Leave that right here, by a fellow named Zealot š
What do you think about this trait for Babari: Status effects have a 35% less accuracy against him. 50% increased stamina for the ally team (permanent, like Zahra's life buff). Status Caster: Damage Mirror.
I think his trait isn't changing now unfortunately
Just a suggestion.
Also that kinda treads on Thalassa's toes. Not that i'm fussed, but part of the complaint is similar traits to other WM
He was clearly a rush job, it's a shame, seems like it's gonna be the new warmaster trend, and I agree, they need their own identity
Well yeah (Thalassa gives 100% Stamina for 3 turns, though).
Or got with the Gortak side: Immune to Control. Status Caster. Damage Mirror.
But then he's too much like Gortak. Forget I said anything š¦
If his trait was changed, i'd rather see something unique. Just so that each WM has their own use depending on what the opponent is using
I was excited for him, now honestly I am thinking of skipping him, just like how I was against Francine for being a weak designed monster for a capstone to a month of halloween stuff as a race monster, now we have Warmaster Rushjob
Hopefully we have some kind of actual confirmation of the outcry from the developers, this isn't a trend that should be seen, not if they don't want confidence in them to slip
Yeah, he's too early.
I'm not gonna bother going for him anymore, they've released him way too soon
I don't really get why the amount of hate Zahra gets is THIS huge... The life buff is getting underrated a bit too much.
Id say its this huge when newer monsters they are releasing outclass or stay right beside her, even in the same element
Warmasters should be top of their element, in their role, she is not top of her element or her role, unless you R4 her, and even then, there are better places for those 8k+ gems to help you in PVP
Meh. Over time, the orbs just flow in for free. All it costs is a bit of patience
a bit
Im more salty cause after my misguided disappointment in necromancer i resolved to get thunder...and my patience did not pay off lol
Ready for this? Battle Anticipation - Babari goes first no matter what, was that so hard?
No that's very op
You just need to put 3 x strength runes and you'll wipe out the enemy team with aoe skill
Sorry lemme rephrase
Battle Anticipation - Babari always goes before anticipation
otherwise it's normal battle flow based on speed
Oh sorry didn't understood first
You're fine, it was poorly worded
That's still broken
Lol why justice for kassia
Hes a warmaster
A bug that made them change her skills and i rementioned it the other day so making sure i keep it relevant lol, been changed one way for too long with no notice
Theres tons of other ways to beat him without relying on anticipation, it is far from broken, to say its broken is folly
I prefer the current trait over that, honestly. Counter of a counter seems silly to me, to say the least.
@gilded coyote Necromancer is a good warmaster
I honestly don't see any fault in him
He's good in his field
compared to Zahra
@cold sequoia yes initially i thought group 4 were random not unlocked in line and needed a reviver at the time so i didnt go for him, i could have had him r2, with a revive so thats what i meant by misguided, had i known i would have gotten him (and the blessing rewards)
Now Babari
thats a different case
its so "INFORMAL"
The name says it all
Poor skill choices
Poor trait choices
I mean I have seen people spamming team haste or team damage protection as trait caster
Why not just go with it
and honestly
I just wouldn't get a Warmaster for their r4 skill
Its completely pointless to call a monster the best of its element when it fails to serve its purpose
Zahra fails to serve her purpose of healing and stamina regen
but pretty good trait not denying that
Babari fails the title of being unique as a warmaster
Zahra wasn't made to give regen...
But it doesn't
by SP
You chose to interpret it that way
I am not saying all nature monsters are attackers
But all Nature supportive monsters are healers
Except for Zahra
She has maca
but that isn't her main thing
Prince Charmless, the perfect healer/support š
very funny
I am trying to focus on the failed potentials of warmasters
especially the latest 2
So, in your worldview, Yilitre isn't a supporter?
i'd say it's a supporter
but no healing skills
She is a poor supporter is what I am trying to say
A warmaster can only cast one status caster
babari casts damg mirror
so the other must be a trait
Stamina Regen will last for 3 turns. Just like with Thallasa and Zahra.
and sp couldnt come up with something different than the only selling point of their last warmaster
What about damg mirror
It can't be permanent
A warmaster has one permanent caster
I never thought of that. Maybe both are gonna be Status Casters. š¤
There is no stamina Regen
They are gonna run torture immunity
Aww
and completely ruin Zahra
might as well just del zahra from the game basically stole her only quirk
Isn't it expected to be aoe damage mirror, and stam regen caster ?
yeah but 1 has to be trait and either 1 is broken
No. Itās expected to be torture immunity trait and damage mirror status caster
Thatās the trait in game and itās really unlikely to change before tomorrow
I thought that was just incorrectly input into the monstergram ?
trait as doesnt go away in 2-3 turns all warmasters have 1. dmg mirror for the entire game is gg at any lvl
They basically just made Zahra useless. Zahra is similar to Elvira, both have amazing traits but not as good skills. Most people got them just cuz of their trait. And here's my question, what's the point of Zahra when Babari does the same thing as her? š¤
Like, pre-emptively
Realistically, I tend to trust the ingame trait over a fan website š
Elvira has very good skills
Well i mean, compare to other WMs, Elvira's skills aren't as good.
@tame beacon especially if that website makes Babari female š
remember zahra was supposed to have control immunity but got changed a bit before release we might get the same thing again
Warmasters Aura alone is pretty borderline busted
Precisely. All theyāve done is found some info somewhere that they donāt know the full details of and assumed itās the trait. Unfortunately everyoneās believed it over the actual in game trait
That's Elvira's best skill. But other skills aren't as good as her WM Aura.
Briefly talking about Zahra, she actually does have a heal to an extent
I don't think they would change his trait the day before release
thats so unlike SP
They've done similar in the past
hmm zahra can heal wait what
To an extent she can
How?
yeah essences
No
With so many options like Team haste and damage protection trait
Well kinda
they choose torture immunity
They have done similar Iād agree. But like all information, Including Taringa information, itās always better to assume official sources are more accurate
When she get's revived, her 50% extra life activates again. So any alive allies receive extra hp
Healing them to an extent
They revert to the earlier stage. The health percentages stay the same.
SP might aswell give Zahra Area Regen. š
That's a stretch if I ever saw one
Well Babari isn't official yet
His dungeons start tomorrow so it may be official
Glad i got thalassa and necromancer
And for not refunding thalassa for an upcoming WM š
Ikr
babari balanced, chunge my mind
He's looking like the perfect medium for Warmasters so far
barbari starts tomorrow?
Magic warmaster attack, transmogrification, for the next 3 turns, the enemy monster is a hayman
why would a warmaster lose you the battle in such a tragic way.
3x hayman will dominate any team
Do you know how overpowered that would be. Imagine fighting not 1, not 4, but 3 hayman?!
Heck 1 hayman can destroy an entire team of just warmasters. Imagine what 3 could destroy
3x 130 haymans with X runes oh boi thats an insta loss
Thorder stands a chance against Hayman
no, he's screwed
No, only firesaur can
What about his Majesty, the mythical VIP Treezard?
thundhare has a mega special skill that is available when facing hayman that has 0.1% chance to kill the entire enemy team though
also he's not mythical, i have him :wesmart:
I had a few
i have 1 r5
Mythical sounds like a new monster series actually
Oh, was not aware
We need more of the story
:DrakeYea:
defeat warthak um... ok
š¢
Okay but why did the thunder wm have to kick out poor frostbite and the other water mons from the mountain? Couldn't they have shared the mountain jeesh.
Right.
Babari is just as evil as Warthak, really.
Cuz Thunder and Water are enemies, if that makes sence. š
Babari isn't in Evil Legions, Sapphire. š
So what? There are monsters who do not deserve to be there and those who do, aren't
Babari did the same thing, except what he did was arguably worse because he forced the poor things to leave their peaceful home after centuries.
Where can I find what you guys are reading from?
so he didnt kill em ?
Updates Section
Makes some sense, but aren't WM's supposed to be kind? Like;
Gortak - He's helping save the dwarfs from Warthak
Barbael - He's an demon raised to be an angel so it's obvious that he's good.
Elvira - is an angel
Zahra - Pretty much the "mother nature" of ML
Thalassa - Thetys Mom. Moms are generally kind and caring.
I honestly don't know about necromancer so :P
@hasty mortar Nobody ever dies in the intro stories so...
Barbael is a demon raised and trained to be an angel** :P
Necromancer is just some weird boi living in a basement
^
He was a respected professor
^^ š
That's for the correction Sapphire
Everyone in the Dark element is evil so, Necro is a villain i guess. š
Zahra is clearly a good gal. Like... She didn't even banish or hurt Nadiel in any way (though they stretched the story and evilized him for her bio. If u read Nadiel's story, all he wanted was to end the nature element being constantly abused)
@drowsy jackal Nah. Necromancer was clearly displayed as a good or at least, neutral guy.
Tsk. Firyna is in Evil Legions and her bio days she uses her powers for good. Don't trust the books!
basement guy is always neutral guy š
Necro must have been a hated teacher/profesor. š
i wonder if there is some stuff between him an flawless š
gotta expect count vlad to get kicked from that castle either by cain or necro or both mhm
Huh? No... He was a respected, known contributor to their community; he simply had to leave because he couldn't just trash all his work. The council or whatever decided that necromancy was too dark for the academy
Yeah... What is Cain gonna do with the fact a Warmaster is living in HIS castle?
there might be an alliance between necro and cain. cain gets his castle back, necro stays and takes flawless as wife, vlad is killed/banished. And in season 3 returns to dish out some justice š
Omfg ššš
Sounds like a good movie. š
Again. Cain is evil to the bone. Necromancer isn't. So... I can't really see an alliance or anything in those lines
What makes you say Necro isnāt evil tho? I thought it was kinda left open.
I dunno about Elvira though... The story said she "decided to do something good" so she didn't on daily basis? She's quite bossy, too...
Hang on
I don't understand how Elvira isn't in Good Legions, she trained Barbael!
He was just experimenting
And leaving was hard for him
O
For the Science and such
maybe gets revenge on the accademy for banishing him
So, Necro is Dark but he's a profesor at the Superior Academy of Magic?
They didn't BANISH him šš
Still wish they tied in the Dark WM with Sammyās lore. So much potential there especially with the way they set up Sammyās brother.
He quit willingly. There is no bad blood between him and the faculty
thats what necro wants you to think
It's still a mystery on who is Sammy's baby bro.
his heart is slowly growing dark
until he goes full on evil
Pretty sure those stories never break the 4th wall to trick readers. They state things as they are. And Necro is not evil. No need to try and look into it.
making experiments with life and death on monsters- ok no evil here
I'd like to see Samael & Necro gang up on Nishant
Like... Samael for revenge obviously, Necromancer to fix the dark army's reputation and form an alliance with the Nemesis
Necro is just Bill Nye if he could resurrect things :DrakeYea:
Oh I dunno. What about Da Vinci's experiments? š
Nishant just needs to die tbh
He's been an aaanus for way too long
necro is just doctor viktor but too broke to afford electricity
Isnāt Sammy supposed to be Uriel or was that just a theory?
Theory
Oof
And a wrong one :/
:SmolConcern:
What we need
Is a panoramic pic of Necro & Samael ripping Nishant apart. MAKE IT GORY!
That'd be pure art
Epitome of beauty
gets protected by nishants bg
Babari isnāt that bad, makes sense to me that he isnāt in either Evil or Good Legions.
Iād say up until leaving Zyla he was arguably Good Legions material. Then again it could be argued that if he didnāt go the Titans couldāve caused a lot more destruction.
He's balanced š
As all things should be
Noooooo! How dareth thou bring that sad ending up!
You shouldāve went for the ban
Noooo xD
barbari analysis by Armor is now out
imma watch it... i dont know anything about him yet
Eh does that mean damage mirror is status caster
ye
Apparently if you are possessed, the damage is returned to yourself which is worse than no damage mirror š¤
Is the date of the thalassa refund announced ?
Iām pretty sure it already passed.
What runes is everyone using on Zahra?
:SmolConcern:
No the date they actually take it from u
Looking forward to setting up Barbi, Gelotron and Gortak pvp team š #onehiteonders š
Does 2 upcoming warmaster will be OP like gorthak and elvira?
I am waiting for Magic šššššššššš
Thalassa is the best one yet
Yeah
You need to clear postitive status effect from enemies when they have recently freeze to run again ;)
She has 3 skills with remove positive effects
Group 4 i think
One in group 2
Two on group 4
And the other is her special
When should we get Thalassa refund?
Is the fire warmaster worth to get it?
I'd say yes, but he shouldn't be your priority imo.
If you are trying for a lvl 100 wm. No
Ty @wide python , u r so lovely ā”
got em š
Good job, enjoy your new or very first WM. š
torture immunity that doesnt go away in 3 turns too
@hasty mortar u might need some more thunder cells
i wonder if there is an offer on thunder cells š
50% extra life though
Thatās nice
Tanks are evolving into the meta so Zahra will too
She will
i cant wait for more gravediggers to come
she wont
i dont wanna arhgue now, realize it yourself
zahra really just needs her skills scrapped and made all over again from scratch
A team of a Zahra, Samael and Necromancer built for survival will be extremely powerful.
You won't need denile with that. And, dare I say, if my not very 130 monsters can recover from Deep Warmaster Fury, so could this team.
@unreal flume Abomination is better than Gravedigger. The Resurrection Blocker is a separate trait. Had it not been the case, Undertaker would have it also.
Rez blocker then haa
Oh wow
its just sad
Babari can heamself
but Zahra can't
this is sad
himself*
When we get barbeal
so like iMigbo, again ...
in the TestBattle of the Monster I can use this skill. But the translation between english and german shows me 2 absolutely different skills. Is there a translation issue to german or the skill wrong in english?
here the skill in german
it is in the test battle the right skill of the Warmaster!!!
My german is a bit rusty, but I can see it's completely different. š¤
German description is completely messed up
The german says something like this: Removes positive status effects from one enemy. Applies Shock to all enemies. 50% chance of disabling trait on all enemies. Requires cooldown.
@proud leaf is it right?
@misty elm your translation is correct. I can see in test battle, that Warmaster acts like the english skill description
@proud leaf well then the Spanish description is messed up too
I just saw your SS with the english description and compared and in spanish says something completely different
Saw the German one and it's the same as in Spanish
@timid hornet so SP has something to fix.... whatever š
What was SP thinking when they made Zahra
and then after seeing what people thought of her
made one of her few uses get completely outclassed by the next one
@proud leaf yes, need some fixing there, I'm sure that'd be done
Or in the test battle, you can just give yourself as many moves as you like. Load em up.
Yeh it seems in some other languages the text is the old move text. It seems when they changed the moves before releasing them to us, they forgot to move to localised translations to prod.
Is there something wrong with Babari's damage mirror skill? Once he applies it, it never times out
Skill name is Bolts Aura
Yup itās bugged. Will be looked at on Monday I think
We got 2 underwhelming warmasters b2b i hope the final 2 are worth it
Babari good tho
Why are these WMs bugged at the time of their release? All these bugs make them stronger..
Is someone trying to sell them?
I don't think any WM except for Babari and Elvira had bugs. Babari with his Special attack giving him 3 turns insted of 1, and Elvira with her Evasion not blocking Possesion or something.
Zahra
Because SP rushed him, that's why he's bugged
Yeah and Zahra aswell. I totally forgot about her. š
I feel the quality is dropping..
Francine has a horrible design. And the last 2 WMs have skills that look like it wasn't really from experienced people
Yeah the quality is dropping so they arenāt completely broken breaking the meta
design
Well Cainās design is pretty dope.
Zahra is fancy too.
babari lit
i still think his name is barbari instead of babari for some reason š
Lol this warmaster is op espemcially his special skill if you use it one time you gain 3 extra turn per 1 hit monster
Bad design doesnāt mean drop in quality. I call Francine a bad design because I donāt like it, not that the artwork itself is bad.
Iām going for him, heās definitely a good monster but really depends on the person how useful heāll be.
@noble coral That's a bug
Ty im gonna start getting him now
He's a good warmaster
:DrakeYea:
Can these guys complete 2 floors?
Easily
Thanks
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