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sand knoll Sep 14, 2018, 12:04 PM

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Best WM

keen sparrow Sep 14, 2018, 12:06 PM

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Is he worth it at lvl 100

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Seems he'll be useful in wars just because of his trait alone

slow imp Sep 14, 2018, 12:18 PM

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I'm so ready for him

sand knoll Sep 14, 2018, 1:00 PM

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Yes @keen sparrow

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Very

drowsy jackal Sep 14, 2018, 1:34 PM

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Water WMs's skills got updated, she actually good now.

velvet harbor Sep 14, 2018, 1:35 PM

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I won't be able to get Blessing Rewards...
Neither from Metal WarMaster
😭

drowsy jackal Sep 14, 2018, 1:36 PM

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Wot? I'm pretty sure you'll have enough Orbs to get one Warmaster when all WMs get realised.

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Or more i dunno.

velvet harbor Sep 14, 2018, 1:38 PM

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Nope

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Cuz I need lvl 40
On baby acc i am lvl 24
Also
I will need lvl 100 monsters for dat dungeon
And a 8GB Memory Card
Cuz too little space for me with 4 GB

drowsy jackal Sep 14, 2018, 1:39 PM

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Do Adventure Map and lvl up until Lvl 40.

fresh garnet Sep 14, 2018, 1:41 PM

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What does the water warmaster do now?

little berry Sep 14, 2018, 1:41 PM

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Wait

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Here u r

velvet harbor Sep 14, 2018, 1:41 PM

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Adventure map hekk

little berry Sep 14, 2018, 1:42 PM

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@fresh garnet

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Oh

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OHHHH

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Do u have the new skills

crystal vigil Sep 14, 2018, 1:43 PM

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just go to taringa 🤔

little berry Sep 14, 2018, 1:43 PM

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Taringa a don't open here

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WiFi is bad

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Thank zeus

tame beacon Sep 14, 2018, 1:44 PM

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@little berry and @drowsy jackal no leaks here please, can you delete?

fresh garnet Sep 14, 2018, 1:44 PM

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well, i just looked at them and they stilll seem lackluster

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'cept for the special

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but that's it.

drowsy jackal Sep 14, 2018, 1:44 PM

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Oh sure. I didn't know that. Sorry. @tame beacon

crystal vigil Sep 14, 2018, 1:45 PM

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why is waves momentum literally a worse version of abyss bottom?

worthy scroll Sep 14, 2018, 4:11 PM

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Confirmed she is Gen Thetys Mother!

misty elm Sep 14, 2018, 4:13 PM

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Yes, she is ... but how? 😄

worthy scroll Sep 14, 2018, 4:14 PM

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LOL

fickle acorn Sep 14, 2018, 4:18 PM

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I like to see lore.

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GWfroggyPeepoDetective

little berry Sep 14, 2018, 4:26 PM

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Who is the father 😛 ?

slow imp Sep 14, 2018, 4:27 PM

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Waintheart

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Or whatever his name ks

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Is

drowsy jackal Sep 14, 2018, 4:31 PM

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~~Hydratila~~

mortal bay Sep 14, 2018, 5:08 PM

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Hey @fickle acorn do you have a link to the forums ? I can’t access it for some reason

fickle acorn Sep 14, 2018, 5:10 PM

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Yup.

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https://forums.socialpointgames.com/category/4/monster-legends

Social Point Forums

Monster Legends

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@mortal bay

mortal bay Sep 14, 2018, 5:10 PM

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Thanks 😘

fickle acorn Sep 14, 2018, 5:11 PM

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GWkazuOuO

fresh garnet Sep 14, 2018, 5:13 PM

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And i was just banned for no reason from the fourms

polar valve Sep 14, 2018, 5:26 PM

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thalassa doesnt have that good of skills in her group 3

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carlos mentioned doubling stamina

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so thats nice

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but I must skip due to my orb wallet not being ready

brittle hemlock Sep 14, 2018, 6:21 PM

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I'm gonna skip as she looks meh.

velvet harbor Sep 14, 2018, 6:32 PM

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Nature one- WarMaster Treezard

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🤔

worthy scroll Sep 14, 2018, 7:50 PM

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LOTA for Thetys father!

stable fjord Sep 14, 2018, 7:56 PM

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Didn't I see something about how it was intended to only be able to craft 1 of each warmaster? Not supposed to have duplicates? Or is my memory just bad?

timid hornet Sep 14, 2018, 7:57 PM

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You're right Nicole

stable fjord Sep 14, 2018, 8:00 PM

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Call me the ml police then 😂

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drowsy jackal Sep 14, 2018, 8:03 PM

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That's so broken.

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He nearly has the same teams. 😁

fresh garnet Sep 14, 2018, 8:04 PM

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That profile's a hacker clearly

mortal bay Sep 14, 2018, 8:47 PM

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Lmao no

wide python Sep 14, 2018, 8:56 PM

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No its not a hacker its asked not demamded to only have 1 wm

west bluff Sep 14, 2018, 8:59 PM

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best skill set for 100?

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stable fjord Sep 14, 2018, 9:38 PM

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@wide python so it's blocked now, you can't craft more than 1 but if you already crafted multiple it's okay?

polar valve Sep 14, 2018, 9:41 PM

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not exactly

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if you rank up two warmaster( the same one) you will never hit rank5

barren arch Sep 14, 2018, 9:56 PM

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I remember that the player can keep two, but they were advised to swap for cells as if they kept two they would not be able to rank either one.

stable fjord Sep 14, 2018, 10:22 PM

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It is in the updates in game I believe, but doesn't say they'd remove them, just contact them to"try" and work something out. Just think it's crap because you don't need it ranked for it's trait to be effective.

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And people now don't have that choice

brittle hemlock Sep 14, 2018, 10:23 PM

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I mean there was the odd PVP team with level 4 elviras floating about less than a while ago.

stable fjord Sep 14, 2018, 10:23 PM

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I got beat by quite a few of those

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Probably still some in my log

brittle hemlock Sep 14, 2018, 10:33 PM

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Sakura always got our back 😄

barren arch Sep 14, 2018, 10:35 PM

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I pinned it. 😉

sinful gyro Sep 14, 2018, 10:47 PM

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@brittle hemlock Sakura? What monster is that?

brittle hemlock Sep 14, 2018, 10:47 PM

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@sinful gyro

sinful gyro Sep 14, 2018, 10:48 PM

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oh ._.

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woops

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Hold on. The water warmaster is thethys's mom?

brittle hemlock Sep 14, 2018, 10:48 PM

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^

sinful gyro Sep 14, 2018, 10:48 PM

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🤔

brittle hemlock Sep 14, 2018, 10:48 PM

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Carlos said, and he;s a head on Forum.

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OR a dev, should I say.

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But it's nice to see some more lore.

trim python Sep 15, 2018, 2:19 AM

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Anyone know when SP is planning on fixing the warmaster cells situation? I have completed 2 floors of Barbael, plus 1 node on floor 3. Should have 104 cells. Yet have only 76.

fresh garnet Sep 15, 2018, 2:45 AM

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They'll give you the cells on the 18th

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Just.. tell them to make sure you have 104 since you completed a node in the third floor.

grand meadow Sep 15, 2018, 3:32 AM

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Does anyone know how many floors each heroic dungeon costs? please

silk tapir Sep 15, 2018, 3:42 AM

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800 for floor 1, 1500 for floor 2, etc. (check pinned messages)

grand meadow Sep 15, 2018, 3:43 AM

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OK thank you very much

wide python Sep 15, 2018, 5:54 AM

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@brittle hemlock Carlos is Monster Designer 😀

fickle acorn Sep 15, 2018, 5:55 AM

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o:

little berry Sep 15, 2018, 6:28 AM

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@fresh garnet what is your forum name . i can check why you were banned

fresh garnet Sep 15, 2018, 6:31 AM

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I didn't get a reason, but the account has evidently been deleted.

little berry Sep 15, 2018, 6:31 AM

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As for double war master .. Contrived already extracted one of his elivera , and personally i think it is wrong from sp part to leave it to player decision

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they should FORCE extracting the extra ones .. or open the double crafting option for all .. blocking it and allow those players to keep theirs is not fair

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@fresh garnet what was the forum name ?

fresh garnet Sep 15, 2018, 6:33 AM

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RipFire707, i tried to login, correct credentials.. and i got an error

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Saying the account does not exist.

little berry Sep 15, 2018, 6:35 AM

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Same result here !! no user with this name

indigo fable Sep 15, 2018, 10:17 AM

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Sure I’m missing 120 necro cells....any help please

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dim lava Sep 15, 2018, 10:19 AM

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@indigo fable Have you played the dungeon and not received cells?

indigo fable Sep 15, 2018, 10:20 AM

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Not this time round......I played it last time it was necro and used all the orbs I had on it
But to be honest I have no idea how far I got

dim lava Sep 15, 2018, 10:21 AM

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Ok.

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It seems your account has incorrect progress as well. We are going to deploy a fix for Barbael on Monday and we can prepare the same for Necro.

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Thank you for the information, stu.

drowsy jackal Sep 15, 2018, 10:25 AM

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Does that mean Elvira's and Gortak's Dungeon will have that problem aswell?

dim lava Sep 15, 2018, 10:25 AM

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Elivira shouldn't have problems. It ran last time without an issue.

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Gortak may have issues but it should be for a very small number of players. If so, we should be able to deploy a similar fix.

drowsy jackal Sep 15, 2018, 10:27 AM

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Okay. I currently have 70 cells of her, and i need 30 more to craft her. I'm a little worried if i reseave a from number of cells.

supple cipher Sep 15, 2018, 10:29 AM

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How many orbs does it take just to complete floor 3

west bluff Sep 15, 2018, 10:30 AM

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2400

drowsy jackal Sep 15, 2018, 10:30 AM

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It's 800 for Floor 1, 1500 for Floor 2 and 2300 for Floor 3.

supple cipher Sep 15, 2018, 10:30 AM

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Oh shoot, nvm xd

slow imp Sep 15, 2018, 10:31 AM

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This is what I was afraid from. Last time this dungeon was I i was only able to complete the first floor at the first node of the second floor. And now I'm at 80%? Lol wut?

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west bluff Sep 15, 2018, 10:31 AM

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Marianne chart of wonders

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slow imp Sep 15, 2018, 10:32 AM

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I hope this gets fixed soon

drowsy jackal Sep 15, 2018, 10:33 AM

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Even though Necro's Dungeon gives you an incorrect number of cells, only 42 cells by nearly completing 2 Floor is a very low number.

slow imp Sep 15, 2018, 10:34 AM

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I never completed the second floor

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Actually I never was close to finish it

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I only did the first floor

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And the first node of floor 2

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It just set my progression to 80%

drowsy jackal Sep 15, 2018, 10:36 AM

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That's strange. But the main thing is that you got the right number of cells.

slow imp Sep 15, 2018, 10:38 AM

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I only want my progress to be correct

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Nothing else

dim lava Sep 15, 2018, 10:41 AM

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We can provide you with the correct number of cells according to your progress with the fix.

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But we have to build the fix and deploy it when we get back to the office.

mossy folio Sep 15, 2018, 10:41 AM

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slow imp Sep 15, 2018, 10:42 AM

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I have the correct number of cells

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But my progress is not right

mossy folio Sep 15, 2018, 10:42 AM

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Mine either ive lost track

dim lava Sep 15, 2018, 10:43 AM

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We didn't modify the Necro dungeon or cells. Can you make a CS ticket. We will look at these cases separately.

slow imp Sep 15, 2018, 10:44 AM

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Ok

mossy folio Sep 15, 2018, 10:45 AM

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Really give up on tis game huge failure

sand knoll Sep 15, 2018, 10:47 AM

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Guys

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There's a bug with the warmaster

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The progress is incorrect

mossy folio Sep 15, 2018, 10:48 AM

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If they cant fix it just stop it completely till its 101% fix

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Nothing seem to work its getting from bad to worse

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There wasnt any bug on Necro when they released it the progress should be there

sand knoll Sep 15, 2018, 11:03 AM

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How we make a CS ticket

little berry Sep 15, 2018, 11:04 AM

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Thanks for giving us very quality support and bug fixing, and not wasting our orbs, money, gems and time with these warmaster bug fixes

dim lava Sep 15, 2018, 11:41 AM

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Hey, everyone. We will be deactivating the Warmaster Necromancer dungeon until we can determine the source of the issues. Thank you for the help you have given us today and as soon as we have more information we will make a report through the official channels.

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mossy folio Sep 15, 2018, 11:46 AM

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There goes all my hard earn orbs thx SP

dim lava Sep 15, 2018, 11:50 AM

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You will not lose any orbs or cells. We will not take away any orbs or cells from any player.

slow imp Sep 15, 2018, 11:50 AM

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Thank you

dim lava Sep 15, 2018, 11:51 AM

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Thank you for reporting the problem early.

little berry Sep 15, 2018, 11:52 AM

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I hope you didn't forgot barbael 🤔

drowsy jackal Sep 15, 2018, 11:53 AM

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I think Barbael one is fixed.

dim lava Sep 15, 2018, 11:53 AM

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We haven´t forgotten. 😃 The fix to reward cells according to dungeon progress will be deployed on Monday.

little berry Sep 15, 2018, 11:54 AM

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so, how does it work? You will get cells based on how you progressed in floors?

dim lava Sep 15, 2018, 11:55 AM

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Yes.

little berry Sep 15, 2018, 11:55 AM

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I mean if I have 42 cells and my progress was 2 steps away from finishing floor 2 I will get 96?

dim lava Sep 15, 2018, 11:56 AM

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I believe you are one of the edge cases, Robert.

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Your progress was set back, correct?

little berry Sep 15, 2018, 11:56 AM

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no

dim lava Sep 15, 2018, 11:57 AM

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Ah, ok.

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What is your current progress?

little berry Sep 15, 2018, 11:57 AM

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normally my progress was floor 2 with 1 step

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42 cells

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on barbael

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and now my progress is near the finish of floor 2

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I didn't made any more steps from that bug (2 months ago)

dim lava Sep 15, 2018, 11:59 AM

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The fix should work for you, then. You will receive cells according to your dungeon progress. So you will be able to proceed normally.

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Ok, I have to get off now! I'm getting scolded for working on the weekend.

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Thanks, again!

little berry Sep 15, 2018, 11:59 AM

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Good luck

balmy dagger Sep 15, 2018, 1:04 PM

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I had the same issue...currently i have 2 barbael cell and 1 crafted barbael...thats 102 cells all in all...however...i am already at floor 3...suppossedly I should have gotten 140ish plus...I have already made a ticket...the last barbael event before this one...and once again this time...no follow ups on whether I will get my barbael cells back or not yet...

little berry Sep 15, 2018, 1:07 PM

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what we can do is wait now, I hope that the dungeon is back if it's fixed so we don't wait 1 month for it again

misty elm Sep 15, 2018, 2:07 PM

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I might be able to get necro rank 1. Should I make him rank 1 or gather more orbs and make Gortak rank 2 the next time?

wide python Sep 15, 2018, 2:08 PM

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@mossy folio it will be fixed on monday

mossy folio Sep 15, 2018, 2:10 PM

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Ty but i lost track on my progress n orbs😣😣

wide python Sep 15, 2018, 2:13 PM

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It will be fixed so no need i think

mossy folio Sep 15, 2018, 2:40 PM

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👍

sand knoll Sep 15, 2018, 3:36 PM

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@misty elm get necromancer rank 1

amber verge Sep 15, 2018, 8:30 PM

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Which Warmaster should I go for? Elvira or Necromancer.

crystal vigil Sep 15, 2018, 8:31 PM

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Elvira IMO.

amber verge Sep 15, 2018, 8:31 PM

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I have 3 1-star dark monsters to use, but i haven’t finished Necromancer first floor, and 2 1-star light monsters + i have finished first floor

lime venture Sep 15, 2018, 8:32 PM

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At lv 100 Elvira is more useful

amber verge Sep 15, 2018, 8:37 PM

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Or even 130

slow imp Sep 15, 2018, 9:10 PM

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Elvira is better than necro just because of her trait

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So levels don't matter

kind crane Sep 15, 2018, 9:26 PM

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I think Elvira is much better for lower levels with weaker monsters as such a great counter

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But with ruby with oblation staff. Or samael using pestilence easily countered.

little berry Sep 16, 2018, 1:40 AM

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Best runes to give barbael guys?

mortal bay Sep 16, 2018, 2:00 AM

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teamspeed

misty elm Sep 16, 2018, 7:29 AM

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@kind crane yeah, Oblation Staff pretty much negates that Evasion (unless the enemy has stamina recovery relics).

kind crane Sep 16, 2018, 7:40 AM

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Even oblation trap is quite useful against it

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But I still like Elvira, she’s fun to use

misty elm Sep 16, 2018, 9:09 AM

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The good thing about Oblation Trap is that if a monster has double trap slots (like Kihaku, Hackster, Chill Bill,...), you don't even need to max it. I have two lvl 20 traps on my Kihaku and they remove 128 stamina together (and they have multiple uses). I also recently obtained 4 Oblation Staffs (pvp and other golden relic chests), it's a shame my pvp attack team can't use staffs or traps ...

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A different question, what happens if a relic gives more armor (ar a shield skill gives more shield) than the monsters maximum life? Because for me, it just shows a full bar which doesn't go past the health meter. Is the extra armor (or shield) calculated for damage?

crystal vigil Sep 16, 2018, 9:19 AM

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yes, it is used

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but a bar going over the entire screen wouldn't be the prettiest thing in the world

misty elm Sep 16, 2018, 9:19 AM

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Maybe, but it would be funny 😄

fresh garnet Sep 16, 2018, 4:58 PM

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Hmm..
How many ranked fire types should i have to be able to get a ranked barbael?

brittle hemlock Sep 16, 2018, 5:11 PM

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3 🤔

west bluff Sep 16, 2018, 5:39 PM

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I only needed Inheritor to get through floor 2

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But at least 2 🤔

fresh garnet Sep 16, 2018, 5:57 PM

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I have an Igursus, and a rank 2 greedy, but since i need a rank 3 barbael..

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I also have a rank 3 unruned dbg, but i'll just slap some basic runes on him if i need to use him.

merry basin Sep 17, 2018, 11:54 AM

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Hi everyone, Warmaster dungeons are now being fixed, we wont put them live unless they are 100% alright.
We will let you know in announcementa in case we will be able to put Necromancer live this week. Please, also follow UPDATE section in the game as we are posting important information there.

snow laurel Sep 17, 2018, 3:30 PM

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So where's my orb reimbursement? 🤔

dim lava Sep 17, 2018, 3:32 PM

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We will be releasing information on this soon but we will try to provide an automatic reimbursement. I cannot provide an exact date, unfortunately, but we are actively working on a fix.

snow laurel Sep 17, 2018, 3:33 PM

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Nice. 👍

dim lava Sep 17, 2018, 3:33 PM

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Yeah, man. There were too many customer service requests to handle this manually.

fresh garnet Sep 17, 2018, 3:33 PM

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The fix (for people who missed cells) is on the 18h

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18th*

snow laurel Sep 17, 2018, 3:33 PM

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Hopefully it'll be like 400 orbs.

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For the people like me that had to spend extra.

dim lava Sep 17, 2018, 3:34 PM

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Did you have to spend 400 extra orbs or do you mean for comfort? :3

snow laurel Sep 17, 2018, 3:35 PM

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Not sure on the exact number, but I now have Barbael but all of the ×4 cell nodes are still incomplete. So I think the count would be.... Hmmm.... Lemme check.

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Brb.

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Ok. So I just did the math. That's 5 nodes of 4 cells each. And if I still have those 5 nodes left (Cuz my progress was reset) then that would mean I had to do 10 nodes to amount to the 20 cells I missed for those 5 nodes. So I think it would be 60×5 which is 300. Or do I double that number? This one is getting a little confusing. 🤔

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Lol. I saw that Jon. 😉

dim lava Sep 17, 2018, 3:41 PM

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😄 So normally you would need to spend 2300 orbs to craft Barbael, right?

snow laurel Sep 17, 2018, 3:41 PM

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Yes.

dim lava Sep 17, 2018, 3:41 PM

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And how many did you use now?

snow laurel Sep 17, 2018, 3:41 PM

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Not sure since I did it little by little over a period of several months.

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But I did have to do additional nodes. I know that.

dim lava Sep 17, 2018, 3:42 PM

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Come to DM quickly. I will help you with the math. I did it over the weekend.

cosmic badge Sep 17, 2018, 10:20 PM

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Are we supposed to be reimbursed for our missing barbael cells today? I finished 2nd floor and only have 72 cells so I can't craft him

sage magnet Sep 17, 2018, 10:21 PM

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Is there a chance we get to do necro at all this week?

brittle hemlock Sep 17, 2018, 10:34 PM

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@cosmic badge check updates. September 18th, not necessarily at midnight but will probably happen at 10:00 GMT+2
@sage magnet again, check updates

cosmic badge Sep 17, 2018, 10:44 PM

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Ah. Thanks, I was ahead of myself!

polar valve Sep 17, 2018, 11:00 PM

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thanks the devs for the hard work and the effort put into the warmaster dungeons issues

fresh garnet Sep 18, 2018, 12:24 AM

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what's 10:00 gmt+2?

sand knoll Sep 18, 2018, 4:23 AM

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UTC+2

lime venture Sep 18, 2018, 11:06 AM

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@dim lava Hallo, it’s possible to know when Thalassa dungeon will start? 1/2/3 week....

dim lava Sep 18, 2018, 11:07 AM

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You will find out sooooooon! 😄 We are preparing that information now and it will be delivered through our official communication channels.

cosmic badge Sep 18, 2018, 11:26 AM

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@dim lava, @merry basin and everyone on the team. Thanks for fixing the issue with Barbael!😂

dim lava Sep 18, 2018, 11:27 AM

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You are very welcome.

cosmic badge Sep 18, 2018, 11:30 AM

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Just wanted to confirm I am now crafting Barbael so the fix did you guys put into place did work for me!!!!

little berry Sep 18, 2018, 11:33 AM

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I got 80 instead of 100 🤔

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I am glad you fixed but just saying, whats wrong?

delicate jasper Sep 18, 2018, 11:37 AM

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whit warmasters the elementium not found

lime venture Sep 18, 2018, 11:39 AM

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Thanks Jhon have to do math for orbs 😂, I’m curious for the final trait 😜

delicate jasper Sep 18, 2018, 11:42 AM

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XD

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i want a warmaster of thunder element that will have extra turns and eliminate traits but also will have anticipation

misty elm Sep 18, 2018, 12:12 PM

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And also have 10 runes slots and 8 relics slots, while cooking your breafast and taking care of your kids 😄

lime venture Sep 18, 2018, 12:16 PM

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Yeah and have gems production instead gold, and a relic bonus every month 😂😂😂

little berry Sep 18, 2018, 1:04 PM

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I got no barbael cells and no orbs and still a full dungeon further back than I had spent orbs to complete

little berry Sep 18, 2018, 1:20 PM

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the water one was a letdown for sure

barren arch Sep 18, 2018, 1:26 PM

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@little berry Did you send a ticket in via the in game Support.

faint beacon Sep 18, 2018, 1:26 PM

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:GWworkshopAkaShrug:

dim lava Sep 18, 2018, 1:43 PM

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@little berry The fix was to reward cells according to your dungeon progress. If your dungeon progress was rolled back (e.g. you have more cells than needed for your current progress) you won't notice a difference.

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We are working on this issue currently.

faint beacon Sep 18, 2018, 1:46 PM

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You'll always working on something but ml not work 🙄

dim lava Sep 18, 2018, 1:52 PM

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@faint beacon Did you not receive cells according to your progress? If so, please DM me your user ID.

faint beacon Sep 18, 2018, 1:53 PM

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My problem is I can't request cells
I have try 3-4 time 😑

dim lava Sep 18, 2018, 1:53 PM

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You can't request Warmaster cells...

faint beacon Sep 18, 2018, 1:54 PM

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Ik
I mean any cells

dim lava Sep 18, 2018, 1:54 PM

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Ok. I understand. I thought your complaints were directed towards the Warmasters issues.

faint beacon Sep 18, 2018, 1:55 PM

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I didn't check channel 😔

merry basin Sep 18, 2018, 1:56 PM

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Cells request issues please move this complaint to the #bugs-reporting channel. @faint beacon

faint beacon Sep 18, 2018, 1:57 PM

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I already posted in that channel

merry basin Sep 18, 2018, 1:59 PM

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Thanks

little berry Sep 18, 2018, 2:31 PM

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Thanks Jon, yea that’s my problem

cinder field Sep 18, 2018, 4:54 PM

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@little berry will those of us with extra Barbie cells be able to donate them? Although, thinking about it, they save us 100 orbs.

fresh garnet Sep 18, 2018, 4:57 PM

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The extra cells are useful.

balmy scaffold Sep 18, 2018, 4:58 PM

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as compensation for evryone and the warmaster dungeon mess up, everyone should get a 130 xiron

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the ruby

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:P}

cinder field Sep 18, 2018, 5:02 PM

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Agreed! But not Quartz for the love of God

brittle hemlock Sep 18, 2018, 5:03 PM

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🤦

cinder field Sep 18, 2018, 5:03 PM

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Barn Owl!

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It's Andrea from BoR

balmy scaffold Sep 18, 2018, 5:08 PM

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Hey how is it going?

cinder field Sep 18, 2018, 5:09 PM

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Hoping the dungeons return soon

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Saved orbs for so long to rank up my Necromancer

balmy scaffold Sep 18, 2018, 5:10 PM

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nice

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I only have like 600 orbs atm 😂

cinder field Sep 18, 2018, 5:11 PM

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Now playing for Dedicated Monster Clan, top 100

balmy scaffold Sep 18, 2018, 5:11 PM

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nice

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Baytona is chilling in 45th atm

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Daytona*

cinder field Sep 18, 2018, 5:14 PM

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We're 58 but that rank goes up and down in very mysterious ways I tell you

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And the explanation of how rank is calculated only makes it more confusing and mysterious

little berry Sep 18, 2018, 7:26 PM

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I have barbael crafted, have 3300 orbs built back up, thinking of crafting each warmaster 1st before ranking them up. Wat do ye think?

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Not all of them worth the orbs :v

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Congratulations on barbael btw

brittle hemlock Sep 18, 2018, 7:33 PM

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^

little berry Sep 18, 2018, 7:36 PM

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Wat ones ya think, maybe Elvira and necro?

brittle hemlock Sep 18, 2018, 7:38 PM

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Elvira yes, Necro maybe. wait until all WM are released.

sand knoll Sep 18, 2018, 7:40 PM

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elvira-yes

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necro-yes

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barbael-maybe

sage magnet Sep 18, 2018, 7:41 PM

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im fine with my lvl 50 elvira 😃

brittle hemlock Sep 18, 2018, 7:41 PM

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Gortak - no

sand knoll Sep 18, 2018, 7:41 PM

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gortak-no

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got that right

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😉

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new water wm

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idk

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she seems meh

brittle hemlock Sep 18, 2018, 7:42 PM

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I wouldn't get her.

sand knoll Sep 18, 2018, 7:44 PM

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great minds think alike

little berry Sep 18, 2018, 7:56 PM

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Thanks guys, might go Elvira next whenever her dungeon comes back. See if the offer for the X rune comes with it again

little berry Sep 18, 2018, 8:29 PM

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same here . skipping water Wm ,, it is nearly a must skip 😛

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They need to start making one warmaster dungeon run into the next, the wait each time makes it take forever

worthy scroll Sep 18, 2018, 8:39 PM

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It would be nice to have double stamina on some monsters tho, but very situational combos, Skull rivera and Talos can be good companions for her

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charmless and Zyla also, being able to change stamina runes for team speed, stuff like that

sand knoll Sep 18, 2018, 8:41 PM

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@little berry they wont have the X runes

brittle hemlock Sep 18, 2018, 10:48 PM

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@little berry not only that but that is SP's intention, but with the Barba-Necro bug it's looking unlikely atm

little berry Sep 18, 2018, 11:06 PM

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Is that offer for the X rune not coming back?

silk tapir Sep 18, 2018, 11:34 PM

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no it was just first time

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if you get a warmaster in its first go you got the X rune

sage magnet Sep 18, 2018, 11:41 PM

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Was there any decision made if Necro is gonna be active this week at all?

worthy scroll Sep 18, 2018, 11:54 PM

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The offer "comes back" with each new warmaster and only applies for the first time each warmaster appears

little berry Sep 18, 2018, 11:58 PM

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Ah right, thanks

tame beacon Sep 19, 2018, 5:56 AM

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Not yet @sage magnet they are making sure the bug is fully sorted first.

sand knoll Sep 19, 2018, 8:17 AM

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please let us have it this week

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i dont wanna wait till the next month

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sobs

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try your best guys

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👍

faint beacon Sep 19, 2018, 8:44 AM

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🤔

little berry Sep 19, 2018, 2:37 PM

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i wonder how she would be used

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considering her ability to give allies double stamina and immunity to all types of freezes

sand knoll Sep 19, 2018, 2:42 PM

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interesting

polar valve Sep 19, 2018, 2:42 PM

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all types of freeze

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great

tame beacon Sep 19, 2018, 2:43 PM

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Possess her, let her use her special, be happy 😃

polar valve Sep 19, 2018, 2:44 PM

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I think she has personal hardened

crystal vigil Sep 19, 2018, 2:44 PM

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personal tough

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not hardened

tame beacon Sep 19, 2018, 2:45 PM

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Yeh. Still someone with double deny might get through. So like... Talika/Yntec/Copycat.

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Countess flawless would do nicely too

little berry Sep 19, 2018, 2:48 PM

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true

tame beacon Sep 19, 2018, 3:10 PM

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Huh. Thalassa is in the Sea/Female/Families books. Not the exclusive book.

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I can only assume that’s a mistake 😄

little berry Sep 19, 2018, 6:05 PM

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Do we know anything about her relic slots?

mortal bay Sep 19, 2018, 7:15 PM

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Armour + Amulet @little berry

little berry Sep 19, 2018, 7:39 PM

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Thanks yami

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@mortal bay thanks... too bad. I was hoping for cane or banner

mortal bay Sep 19, 2018, 7:53 PM

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I think because of the trait there won’t be much stamina manipulation relic wise, energising amulet at best

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Charging banner or CoA would be a bit much

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Staff would have made sense though considering she’s holding a big staff 😂 @little berry

tame beacon Sep 19, 2018, 7:56 PM

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Yeh but those shells though, full armour 😄

modest zenith Sep 20, 2018, 6:03 AM

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That's the best armor their is.

faint beacon Sep 20, 2018, 6:09 AM

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🤔

hasty mortar Sep 20, 2018, 6:10 AM

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best armor is the plot armor elvira gives when you start the battle 😄

wide python Sep 20, 2018, 6:31 AM

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@little berry I deleted that consider it a warning replacing letters with 0 doesnt make it ok

little berry Sep 20, 2018, 7:02 AM

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@wide python jeee ok... I didn’t know a joke could get me a warning... plus it was neither offensive nor vulgar. Just a mere joke. Anyway... thanks for warning me. I’ll pay more attention and choose my words more wisely. 😔

wide python Sep 20, 2018, 8:21 AM

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Well you changed oo into 00 so you knew something ....remember its a server for all you can see it as a joke i can presive it as sexist 🤔

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@little berry

little berry Sep 20, 2018, 8:59 AM

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@wide python yeah ok, no problem 😉

steel panther Sep 20, 2018, 9:20 AM

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Double stamina for entire game is amazing with prince volt and zay

fresh blaze Sep 20, 2018, 10:55 AM

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Can’t wait for the release😍💪

faint beacon Sep 20, 2018, 10:57 AM

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:GWllentSansFingerGuns:

polar valve Sep 20, 2018, 10:57 AM

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now I aint so sure I dont need Thalassa...

little berry Sep 20, 2018, 11:46 AM

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And how many war you will use the water wm + extra turner ?! the more convenient for extra turner is to have the stamina by themselves undependable on others

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do you know you have have double stamina with just level 6 rune ?! level x give you 150% stamina !!

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recharging banner on zyla gives 171% more stamina

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no idea why some are excited for this trait ?!?!

little berry Sep 20, 2018, 12:15 PM

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IT would be great before relic and anticipation era . stamina charging relic is every where now and extra tuner era is about to end thanks to farady and tigen .. no way this new WM is thetys mother . thetys who ruled over water and see for along time

faint beacon Sep 20, 2018, 12:16 PM

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🙃

polar valve Sep 20, 2018, 1:45 PM

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I am not getting her right now because I wanna be careful with my orbs but in the certain future, the anticipation might be dead too

wide python Sep 20, 2018, 2:22 PM

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I will do the next wm or the one after that really looking foreward to magic or metal

worthy scroll Sep 20, 2018, 2:22 PM

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I think just by the fact that you can run those monsters without the stamina rune or without the amulet that doubles it

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if she is able to cast it on artifacts, which I think we don't know yet, maybe, we can run Talos is the sun having more strenght without the need of stamina rune

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@little berry

misty elm Sep 20, 2018, 4:36 PM

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Straight-up stamina draining and refilling always worked on Artifacts (like removing 50% or refilling 50% stamina instantly), only the status effects that manipulate stamina doesn't work (the Stamina Leak and Stamina Regeneration status effects, which remove or refill stamina each turn on their own).

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So I think her trait should work on Artifacts. 🤓

little berry Sep 20, 2018, 5:05 PM

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@little berry having double stamina is not the same as wearing the stamina rune or the stamina relics (cane and banner): if you put stamina rune, you’re sacrificing one rune slot (maybe for strength or speed); if you have the stamina relics your max stamina is still 140 and you can’t use moves that require a lot of stamina, like Talos is the sun on Talos the metal nemesis. Plus this gives double stamina to the whole team.

wide python Sep 20, 2018, 5:24 PM

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Are we still talking about leaked info here 🤔

crystal vigil Sep 20, 2018, 5:27 PM

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no, water wm is in monstagram

tame beacon Sep 20, 2018, 5:27 PM

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Yeh her trait and special are fair game 😀

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Same with Patient Cyber 😃

misty elm Sep 20, 2018, 5:49 PM

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Is Patient Cyber a race monster?

drowsy jackal Sep 20, 2018, 5:53 PM

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Yes.

stable fjord Sep 20, 2018, 6:00 PM

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So Thalassa won't be in female book?

📎 Screenshot_20180920-135953.png

misty elm Sep 20, 2018, 6:02 PM

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So the MOTHER of Thetys is not a female monster? Wow...

tame beacon Sep 20, 2018, 6:04 PM

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She is. But she’s also a family, also a sea creature and also exclusive. You have to lose one

drowsy jackal Sep 20, 2018, 6:04 PM

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On Elvira's realise, it really annoyed me that she's isn't in Good Legions, and now the same case with Thalassa but a diffrent book. Since Warmasters are a strong group of monsters, it's a bit unfair to have sooo much usage for WMs in Wars. Same with Nemesis.

misty elm Sep 20, 2018, 6:05 PM

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There are monsters with 4 books, right?

drowsy jackal Sep 20, 2018, 6:06 PM

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Yeah. But those monsters aren't that Special tbh. Darmith's Pet and Kimidar aren't the best monsters.

tame beacon Sep 20, 2018, 6:06 PM

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There are. But they’ve decided they don’t want to do it anymore

drowsy jackal Sep 20, 2018, 6:06 PM

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🤔

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Very intresting.

west bluff Sep 20, 2018, 6:07 PM

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oo so shes a he

misty elm Sep 20, 2018, 6:07 PM

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Then will they add Thetys to the Families book?

west bluff Sep 20, 2018, 6:07 PM

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and demise

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❓

tame beacon Sep 20, 2018, 6:07 PM

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Maybe somewhen in the future, but not anytime soon. Otherwise everyone will want loads of monsters overhauled

worthy scroll Sep 20, 2018, 6:07 PM

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yeah Demise Rivera should be added to Families book, and this is offtopic for this channel lol

drowsy jackal Sep 20, 2018, 6:09 PM

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Kinda. 😁

misty elm Sep 20, 2018, 6:09 PM

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Well, it's about family 😄

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But also, Llum is not in the Female book, while she's the SISTER of Ingvar (yeah, I know, off-topic 😄 )

drowsy jackal Sep 20, 2018, 6:11 PM

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😁

worthy scroll Sep 20, 2018, 6:23 PM

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Barbael is not on the Families book and he is Barbatos bother, both should be there , still on topic cause I mentioned a Warmaster first 😛

west bluff Sep 20, 2018, 6:24 PM

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the family book is so confusing

misty elm Sep 20, 2018, 6:31 PM

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All of the books are confusing.

fresh garnet Sep 20, 2018, 6:44 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20180920-132747.jpg

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Look who i got..!

tame beacon Sep 20, 2018, 7:16 PM

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Congrats Ion 😃

delicate jasper Sep 20, 2018, 8:24 PM

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Yeah

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I wanna also this warmaster

fresh garnet Sep 20, 2018, 8:26 PM

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Now to wait for him to hatch, and then i finally have a new TS holder.

slow imp Sep 21, 2018, 11:24 AM

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What Warmaster dungeon will be active after Thalssa?

tall cedar Sep 21, 2018, 11:35 AM

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Probably gortak

slow imp Sep 21, 2018, 11:54 AM

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Oof so no necro or Elvira dungeons this month

sand knoll Sep 21, 2018, 12:39 PM

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Ikr

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Sad

dim lava Sep 21, 2018, 12:39 PM

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😦

sand knoll Sep 21, 2018, 12:39 PM

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But they tried their best I believe

dim lava Sep 21, 2018, 12:40 PM

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Why don't you guys just play Necro now?

sand knoll Sep 21, 2018, 12:40 PM

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There's necromancer dungeon now?

dim lava Sep 21, 2018, 12:40 PM

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😅

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Surprise!

sand knoll Sep 21, 2018, 12:40 PM

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😂

dim lava Sep 21, 2018, 12:41 PM

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Let me know how it goes.

mossy folio Sep 21, 2018, 12:41 PM

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@dim lava they reimburse 400 orbs fyi

dim lava Sep 21, 2018, 12:41 PM

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Noice!

sand knoll Sep 21, 2018, 12:41 PM

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OMG

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Thanks jon

dim lava Sep 21, 2018, 12:41 PM

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Yeah, I suggested more than 300

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You guys are very welcome. Play NOW! Let me know if something is up.

mossy folio Sep 21, 2018, 12:42 PM

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But sadly no dungeon to complete my r1 lol

dim lava Sep 21, 2018, 12:42 PM

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Sorry. We tried.

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Ya'll need to thank @small coral as well. He busted his bottom to get this fix ready in time to release Necro before Thalassa!

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😄

mossy folio Sep 21, 2018, 12:44 PM

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Dang its live now lol

tame beacon Sep 21, 2018, 12:44 PM

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Jon surprises are the best kind of surprises 😄

mossy folio Sep 21, 2018, 12:44 PM

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Tysm guys

dim lava Sep 21, 2018, 12:46 PM

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You all are very welcome. Thank you for your help resolving this frustrating bug. Please post quick if anything strange pops up.

mossy folio Sep 21, 2018, 12:47 PM

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Roger and out🤣🤣

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Thx guys 🤗🤗

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violet mesa Sep 21, 2018, 1:26 PM

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Jon anychace any devs know a way to decompile LUA ?

dim lava Sep 21, 2018, 1:30 PM

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LUA is a scripting language

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Why do you ask?

polar valve Sep 21, 2018, 1:46 PM

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hey guys, can you tease us what element will the next warmaster be? Of course, I am talking about after Thalassa. Only the element, not the name

little berry Sep 21, 2018, 1:57 PM

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god i hate when the warmaster necromancer dungeon got retracted.i really wanted to get his cells to craft him 😦

tall cedar Sep 21, 2018, 1:59 PM

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Thanks Guys!! I'm ranking necro to 110 now

violet mesa Sep 21, 2018, 1:59 PM

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So. I play this game. Its a private server ran by 1 person. He used to get the code from official game and use it on his server. Well. Offical game changed their code to lua and now he cant decompile it and get the code

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Leaving private server people very sad since we can't get new stuff

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😓

fickle acorn Sep 21, 2018, 2:10 PM

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Ok.

tall cedar Sep 21, 2018, 3:01 PM

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This necromancer dungeon is back with some trait bugs

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📎 Screenshot_20180921-202800.jpg

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😍 😍

faint beacon Sep 21, 2018, 3:03 PM

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🙄

keen sparrow Sep 21, 2018, 4:02 PM

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Are the skills from group 4 random when ranking a warmaster?

tall cedar Sep 21, 2018, 4:04 PM

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@keen sparrow no

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You get them in order

keen sparrow Sep 21, 2018, 4:05 PM

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You know what the 1st one is?

tall cedar Sep 21, 2018, 4:05 PM

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1st one is 1st as per wiki

keen sparrow Sep 21, 2018, 4:05 PM

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1 xtra turn to ally?

tall cedar Sep 21, 2018, 4:06 PM

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For necromancer, it was turn transfer

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Yes

keen sparrow Sep 21, 2018, 4:06 PM

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tyvm

tall cedar Sep 21, 2018, 4:06 PM

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Np

cinder field Sep 21, 2018, 5:16 PM

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Why does the wiki say that they are randomly learned?

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I'm getting them in order. Today I got resurrection.

tall cedar Sep 21, 2018, 6:12 PM

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@cinder field yea they come in order

misty elm Sep 21, 2018, 6:21 PM

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I hope he's worth it.

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(The ranking pods are occupied right now because of Legendary Overlords)

worthy scroll Sep 21, 2018, 7:43 PM

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arg, Thalassa double stamina doesnst affect Artifacts

misty elm Sep 21, 2018, 7:47 PM

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Poor machines 😢

drowsy jackal Sep 21, 2018, 7:47 PM

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That's a bid odd.

misty elm Sep 21, 2018, 7:48 PM

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The Double Stamina lasts for 3 turns, so I think it's a positive status effect.

worthy scroll Sep 21, 2018, 7:55 PM

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yup, is considered a possitive, little sad about that, I was expecting that to be affective on Artifacts

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Think I'm not going for her

misty elm Sep 21, 2018, 8:01 PM

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She's a beast after 100, though, like an Über-Cryotan. She has 4 Mega Freeze skills in total, two of which are AOE (and they don't cost ridiculous amounts of stamina).

polar valve Sep 21, 2018, 8:05 PM

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one more point why I dont want thalassa

sacred roost Sep 21, 2018, 9:17 PM

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this is a joke the dungeon disappears and now they only give us 13 hours😡 😡

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worthy scroll Sep 21, 2018, 9:20 PM

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I think she is cool and all, good deniers with those and I was about to go for her, but I don't think she fits that much on my pvp team since I mostly use artifacts, ranked I think she is great, that single trait disable and extra turn is nice.

drowsy jackal Sep 21, 2018, 9:20 PM

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I think it had more than 13 hours.

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I don't know how long did it last when it returned.

sacred roost Sep 21, 2018, 9:24 PM

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even so it was 7 days or more, I've been waiting a lot for this dungeon, so now I do not have any time

drowsy jackal Sep 21, 2018, 9:27 PM

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You still have time tho. The Necro dungeon is fixed.

sacred roost Sep 21, 2018, 9:56 PM

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the second time he was on land, the fire lasted about 7 days and something else in the dungeon

I know that the necromancer dungeon disappeared due to the fault that was there, but at least reset the counter, I've been waiting just this dungeon and now I do not have time to spend my orbs @little berry

cinder field Sep 21, 2018, 10:12 PM

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I had no problem whatsoever completing the 16 nodes I needed to rank Necromancer to 110. If you think you won't have enough time, try using the new speed up feature for battles. It really makes them end fast.

brittle hemlock Sep 21, 2018, 10:12 PM

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^

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takes me 10 seconds to do a dungeon battle with good restrictions now with the x4 speed

cinder field Sep 21, 2018, 10:15 PM

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Exactly! And considering all I had to do was cast Samael Warrior on Barbatos and one hit kill the side, I finished in less than 20 minutes I think. It was the roulette the one slowing me down LoL

fresh garnet Sep 21, 2018, 11:08 PM

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And i don't even have barbatos or any dark type supports.

little berry Sep 22, 2018, 12:56 AM

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Is necro worth having at lvl 100? Does he help much?

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Was thinking of having him in my pvp team as the main reason I lose a lot where I am is my team get possessed and he stops that

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can i ask you all a random question?

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so i was doing the necromancer dungeon and wanted to know

faint beacon Sep 22, 2018, 1:08 AM

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🤔

little berry Sep 22, 2018, 1:08 AM

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can you use elementium to craft necromancer?

faint beacon Sep 22, 2018, 1:09 AM

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No

little berry Sep 22, 2018, 1:09 AM

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oh ok

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thanks

cinder field Sep 22, 2018, 1:45 AM

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@little berry I started using him at level 100 only to attack. I don't know what league you're in but he only was helpful stopping faster possession deniers until a certain point. Now that I'm over 4000 trophies I rarely see a possession denier.

little berry Sep 22, 2018, 1:50 AM

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1/5 of the way there.im looking forward to getting him 😄

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Thanks @cinder field . I’m over the 4000 now. Only one I wanted necro to stop was that Chinese lad on the dragon. Hate that lad 😂😂

cinder field Sep 22, 2018, 1:59 AM

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That's Kihaku and you might still see him around. He has a skill that removes positive effects.

little berry Sep 22, 2018, 2:01 AM

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Yea that’s him but u are right, u see him a lot less in the legendary leagues

tall cedar Sep 22, 2018, 2:11 AM

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only after the 50% glitch was fixed

little berry Sep 22, 2018, 2:23 AM

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Is thalassa worth it

sand knoll Sep 22, 2018, 3:15 AM

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No

slow imp Sep 22, 2018, 4:45 AM

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She's really good imo

worthy scroll Sep 22, 2018, 5:07 AM

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With the tweak on the AI it seems that Elvira is not baiting Faraday and others as she used to do

little berry Sep 22, 2018, 5:14 AM

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Is Barbael good

fresh garnet Sep 22, 2018, 5:14 AM

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Yes

little berry Sep 22, 2018, 5:15 AM

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Hmm, I'm having second thoughts about spending my remaining orbs on getting the 60 cells I need to craft him.

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I think I should've went with gortak or Thetys Mom or necro idk

fresh garnet Sep 22, 2018, 5:16 AM

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If you want a warmaster

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but don't know which.

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Elvira's a good choice.

slow imp Sep 22, 2018, 5:30 AM

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Or Necro

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Actually all the warmasters so far are really good

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But Elvira is arguably the best

fresh garnet Sep 22, 2018, 5:32 AM

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I just went with barbael first because he fills a role i need.

cinder field Sep 22, 2018, 6:10 AM

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@worthy scroll no she isn't anymore. Now Discharger goes after the monsters that no longer have evasion. My Demise learned that the hard way.

tired juniper Sep 22, 2018, 10:27 AM

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Hmm still not sure if i should go 100 thalassa or elvira

slow imp Sep 22, 2018, 10:28 AM

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At level 100 Elvira

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But if you're planning to rank up than go for thalassa

sand knoll Sep 22, 2018, 10:57 AM

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yes

narrow cape Sep 22, 2018, 12:14 PM

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Hi how good is double stamina of thalassa?

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I mean is it useful?

tall cedar Sep 22, 2018, 12:15 PM

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Yes it is useful for some extra turners

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Like voltaik,charmless, zyla, etc

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You can even use cryotan with boosaule montes without using stamina rune

narrow cape Sep 22, 2018, 12:15 PM

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Ah good point

tall cedar Sep 22, 2018, 12:16 PM

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And you can run Talos is the sun on Talos without using a stamina rune

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And again, this is all situational/for pvps, so you will need your original runesets

lusty ruin Sep 22, 2018, 12:16 PM

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Is double stamina status working on artifacts? Looks like a positive effect for 3 turns, so it might not?

tall cedar Sep 22, 2018, 12:17 PM

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Idk, but it should work.

lusty ruin Sep 22, 2018, 12:17 PM

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I mean, it is double max stamina, not a stamina refill

tame beacon Sep 22, 2018, 12:29 PM

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Yeh it's a positive effect so i believe it doesn't

narrow cape Sep 22, 2018, 12:41 PM

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Does double max stamina helps again stamina devorer of thetys?

faint beacon Sep 22, 2018, 12:44 PM

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No

worthy scroll Sep 22, 2018, 12:48 PM

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Double stamina is also useful against stamina drain relics

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@lusty ruin @tall cedar it doesn't work on artifacts

lusty ruin Sep 22, 2018, 12:49 PM

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And I guess it can also be cleared by positive effec removal, just like evasion

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All in all, I am not that convinced

tame beacon Sep 22, 2018, 12:50 PM

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Indeed, once the effect is cleared stamina returns to normal 😃

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Its useful against things the clear x number of stamina (relics mostly), but things that clear x% will still be effective (Zimnyaya/Thetys)

crystal vigil Sep 22, 2018, 12:51 PM

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but after zimnyaya does his clear stamina skill you'll have twice as much stamina left with double stamina than without

tame beacon Sep 22, 2018, 12:52 PM

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Yeh obviously with anything less than 100% removal you'll have more stamina than orignally 😃

narrow cape Sep 22, 2018, 12:53 PM

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Let's hope thalassa can wear stamina regen relic

tame beacon Sep 22, 2018, 12:54 PM

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She's armour and amulet relics

narrow cape Sep 22, 2018, 12:54 PM

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Oh well she better not mess with thetys

faint beacon Sep 22, 2018, 12:55 PM

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:GWliliumFacepalmSeola:

crystal vigil Sep 22, 2018, 12:56 PM

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energizing amulet and charging armor don't exist jasmine?

narrow cape Sep 22, 2018, 12:56 PM

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I don't know

faint beacon Sep 22, 2018, 12:56 PM

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🤔

narrow cape Sep 22, 2018, 12:57 PM

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I only know stamina charing banner which is great against stamina devorer of thetys

light terrace Sep 22, 2018, 1:01 PM

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is necromancer is good for first warmaster ?

drowsy jackal Sep 22, 2018, 1:01 PM

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Yes.

tall cedar Sep 22, 2018, 1:02 PM

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@crystal vigil they do

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There is a bronze charging armor or something

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But none of the armors will help against thetys

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Even the new thetys armor lol

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What are your all thoughts on the new thetys armor?

tame beacon Sep 22, 2018, 1:03 PM

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I dunno, nothing beats taking stamina from a monster with empty stamina 😛

tall cedar Sep 22, 2018, 1:04 PM

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👌

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Waste of the relic against thetys

tame beacon Sep 22, 2018, 1:06 PM

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I think the armour is ok, and it's nice to have an armour relic that doesn't give armour. It's not amazing though imo

tall cedar Sep 22, 2018, 1:44 PM

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Thalassa has a pretty good skillset at lvl 100

crystal vigil Sep 22, 2018, 1:49 PM

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"none of the armors will help against thetys"

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ocean rock Sep 22, 2018, 2:08 PM

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O I thought charging armor's description to be some other

little berry Sep 22, 2018, 2:35 PM

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Beat runes and relics for barbael and necro pls guys?

faint beacon Sep 22, 2018, 2:36 PM

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Best***

silk ridge Sep 22, 2018, 2:36 PM

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One of the best runes to give Necro is healing am

hasty mortar Sep 22, 2018, 2:37 PM

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barbael speedsX speedsX speedsX necro speedtX speedtX lifesX a high life though

crystal vigil Sep 22, 2018, 2:38 PM

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i'd say barbael speedtX speedtX speedtX but i guess what you said works fine too

little berry Sep 22, 2018, 2:45 PM

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Best yes. Lol sorry. So speed runes for both?

fast osprey Sep 22, 2018, 2:54 PM

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Hello

tall cedar Sep 22, 2018, 3:58 PM

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speedsX strengthsX lifesX on necro works good too

silk ridge Sep 22, 2018, 4:06 PM

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Buy why strength?

crystal vigil Sep 22, 2018, 4:07 PM

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He has a 70 damage skill and another 55 damage skill.

tall cedar Sep 22, 2018, 4:09 PM

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So that you can deal high damage and heal yourself by high amounts

brittle hemlock Sep 22, 2018, 4:11 PM

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^

little berry Sep 22, 2018, 8:49 PM

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On Necro I prefer full ts runes

cinder field Sep 22, 2018, 9:42 PM

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@crystal vigil What rank is your Necromancer. Cause at 110 mine has no place for both of the life steal skills.

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@little berry that's what I have on him as well. Supercharged amulet and depending, Cane of Atlantis or Revenge Staff

silk ridge Sep 22, 2018, 10:06 PM

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Ah kk demo

little berry Sep 23, 2018, 2:09 AM

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Warmasters so far have covered immunities to all control effects - stun, freeze, possession, blind..
What's remaining?

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Daze? CDA? Is there something else left?

mortal bay Sep 23, 2018, 2:11 AM

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Technically Elvira has done them all just by herself

little berry Sep 23, 2018, 2:34 AM

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Here are my predictions
Magic WM - trait protection and possession immunity to allies
Thunder WM - immunity to all accuracy reduction effects + Damage protection to allies as status caster(for 3 turns)
Nature WM - double healing to allies + anticipation as status caster.

What do you think?

silk ridge Sep 23, 2018, 2:34 AM

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Hmmm

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Imo metal warmaster, will have mega stun in the start of the battle, to all the enemy’s as a caster, and immune to stun as the trait.

tall cedar Sep 23, 2018, 2:40 AM

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@little berry you maybe right about thunder wm

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Nature wm seems a bit op

silk ridge Sep 23, 2018, 2:41 AM

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Imo metal warmaster will be op

tall cedar Sep 23, 2018, 2:41 AM

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Yep

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It will be an artifact imo

silk ridge Sep 23, 2018, 2:41 AM

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I’m hoping it has mega stun

tall cedar Sep 23, 2018, 2:41 AM

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And status caster will be like double damage to all allies for permanent

silk ridge Sep 23, 2018, 2:41 AM

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Hmmm

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triple damage

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Jk

little berry Sep 23, 2018, 2:42 AM

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I went with trait protection on the magic WM coz of the Ingenica + Ruby combo in pvp.
Trait protection would be very appealing in those leagues

silk ridge Sep 23, 2018, 2:43 AM

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Interesting

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I like the idea to conteract ruby

tall cedar Sep 23, 2018, 2:44 AM

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Maybe he has status caster like trait cant be disabled for 3 turns and immunity to all damage reduction effects

silk ridge Sep 23, 2018, 2:44 AM

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Hmm

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Yea

little berry Sep 23, 2018, 2:47 AM

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That's possible. But its tricky how remove positive effects will not remove it

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🤔

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May be a new kind of effect that can't be removed

violet mesa Sep 23, 2018, 2:55 AM

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What wm should I get

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Already got the light 1

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Got 4.3k orbs

faint beacon Sep 23, 2018, 2:56 AM

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Dark

silk ridge Sep 23, 2018, 2:57 AM

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Try water. The water war master is good with monsters like charmless or voltaik

faint beacon Sep 23, 2018, 2:57 AM

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:GWliliumFacepalmSeola:

silk ridge Sep 23, 2018, 2:57 AM

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Well she’s not bad!

little berry Sep 23, 2018, 2:58 AM

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Is it 5000 for rank1 WM?

ocean rock Sep 23, 2018, 2:59 AM

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2300+2400

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4700:GWowoSmug:

little berry Sep 23, 2018, 2:59 AM

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Ok what about rank2

ocean rock Sep 23, 2018, 2:59 AM

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8100

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4700+3400

little berry Sep 23, 2018, 3:00 AM

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Oof

ocean rock Sep 23, 2018, 3:00 AM

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Yea

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Ik

tall cedar Sep 23, 2018, 3:03 AM

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^^

robust basin Sep 23, 2018, 8:04 AM

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How many orbs for lvl 100 war master?

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Completing 2 floors would be cheap or floor 1 twice?

little berry Sep 23, 2018, 8:05 AM

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2300

slow imp Sep 23, 2018, 8:07 AM

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800 for first floor and 1500 for second

tall cedar Sep 23, 2018, 8:14 AM

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You can't do a floor twice

little berry Sep 23, 2018, 8:50 AM

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@cinder field I have him at 115 and tried him with damage skills and runes life/strength/speed he doesn’t work, better with full ts and revival/extra turn skills imo

crystal vigil Sep 23, 2018, 8:51 AM

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yeah, strengthsX lifesX speedsX is more for level 100 necro

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for ranked up speedtX speedtX speedtX is better

little berry Sep 23, 2018, 8:55 AM

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Thalassa double stamina can be removed with a take off good effects skill , she doesn’t look like so strong at low level. Is still Kihaku most useful monster in water element?

light terrace Sep 23, 2018, 10:26 AM

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hi

polar valve Sep 23, 2018, 11:07 AM

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not really

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Kihaku has one deny skill

lusty ruin Sep 23, 2018, 11:07 AM

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Anyone getting the water wm, after all? Seems many are not so thrilled with her

polar valve Sep 23, 2018, 11:07 AM

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the others are 50% and when meeting tough/hardened you may miss all

crystal vigil Sep 23, 2018, 11:07 AM

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More like 75%

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But ok, and i don't think only 1 deny skill is really a problem

polar valve Sep 23, 2018, 11:08 AM

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Frostbite has some pretty good skills. Freeze all, remove stamina from one + freeze all, boost stamina + dd for two turns and a 0 stamina move that drains the enemy stamina

crystal vigil Sep 23, 2018, 11:08 AM

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And an awful trait

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And awful speed

polar valve Sep 23, 2018, 11:08 AM

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still good

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didnt say it was better than kihaku

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the trait will allegedly get an improvement in the future

hasty mortar Sep 23, 2018, 11:10 AM

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how can energized get an improvement ? give more extra stamina ?

polar valve Sep 23, 2018, 11:10 AM

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recharge stamina each turn

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dont ask me, SP devs said they will look into it

hasty mortar Sep 23, 2018, 11:11 AM

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O.O im interested in that

polar valve Sep 23, 2018, 11:11 AM

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they didnt say they would change it, they said they would look into it though

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dont get hyped

lime venture Sep 23, 2018, 11:11 AM

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Give a positive effect that doble stamina during 3 turns

polar valve Sep 23, 2018, 11:12 AM

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no

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that would make the warmaster useless

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thats very counter-productive

lime venture Sep 23, 2018, 11:13 AM

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But atm that is , did u saw the review ?

polar valve Sep 23, 2018, 11:13 AM

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yes

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but thats a special skill for the warmaster

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why should the energized monsters have a special trait?

brittle hemlock Sep 23, 2018, 11:14 AM

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BC Energized is arguably the worst trait in the game.

polar valve Sep 23, 2018, 11:14 AM

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if you want people to get the warmaster, you dont go just giving every monster a special trait that can compete with the warmasters

hasty mortar Sep 23, 2018, 11:14 AM

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isnt instant death trait the worst ?

brittle hemlock Sep 23, 2018, 11:15 AM

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Instant Death blocks Alpha Cliviast, Cryotan etc

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But Energized blocks nothing at all

hasty mortar Sep 23, 2018, 11:15 AM

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but gives extra stamina for a move or 2

polar valve Sep 23, 2018, 11:15 AM

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what about attuned

brittle hemlock Sep 23, 2018, 11:16 AM

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Attuned isn't half bad

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It can give that little extra stamina in a pinch

polar valve Sep 23, 2018, 11:16 AM

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really? I havent seen any good monster with attuned

brittle hemlock Sep 23, 2018, 11:16 AM

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Also helps on Baroness

little berry Sep 23, 2018, 11:16 AM

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Wasnt before the cost to get 100 cells by completing first 2 flooors only 2k orbs?

polar valve Sep 23, 2018, 11:16 AM

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2.3

brittle hemlock Sep 23, 2018, 11:16 AM

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Baroness has AOE Stamina regen and Artifact gater

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°

polar valve Sep 23, 2018, 11:16 AM

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always the same

brittle hemlock Sep 23, 2018, 11:16 AM

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Which is metal type

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So gives +15 stamina

polar valve Sep 23, 2018, 11:17 AM

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baroness is extremely weak on defence

hasty mortar Sep 23, 2018, 11:17 AM

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energized gives 28 without the need to be attacked so energized > attuned

polar valve Sep 23, 2018, 11:18 AM

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absolutely

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not to mention having stamina runes will increase that

harsh cedar Sep 23, 2018, 11:20 AM

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?

faint beacon Sep 23, 2018, 11:20 AM

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:GWgoaThinken:

brittle hemlock Sep 23, 2018, 11:20 AM

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Its a matter of preference though tbh, both have their uses. I mean Energized doesn't block Stamina Devourers to a water monster but Attuned softens the blow. Not that there's many moves with <15 stamina anyways. Either way, this goes to #monster-discussion

faint beacon Sep 23, 2018, 11:21 AM

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🤔

polar valve Sep 23, 2018, 11:21 AM

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technically we were comparing thalassa to the other stamina traits so it can stay here as well, as long as it doesnt go too far out of thalassa

brittle hemlock Sep 23, 2018, 11:23 AM

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Thalassa hasn't been mentioned in a while, now its just a debate between attuned and Energized

polar valve Sep 23, 2018, 11:24 AM

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I mentioned her twice, you once

harsh cedar Sep 23, 2018, 11:24 AM

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Wait you think to giving a stamina rune will be good?

brittle hemlock Sep 23, 2018, 11:24 AM

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No :GWunuDrakeNo:

lime venture Sep 23, 2018, 11:27 AM

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Thalassa don’t need stamina runes, and on extra turn monsters, thalassa give them 3 more attacks, prefer to have the same rune of always on extra turner imo

polar valve Sep 23, 2018, 11:32 AM

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yes combining thalassa with voltaik, charmless, zyla and toshiro is a good combo
be aware of anticipators though

drowsy jackal Sep 23, 2018, 11:33 AM

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If you have a ranked up Thalassa, no need to worry about Anticipation monsters.

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Rank 3 and above Thalassa tho.

crystal vigil Sep 23, 2018, 11:33 AM

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why toshiro?

polar valve Sep 23, 2018, 11:33 AM

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toshiro has some weak to thunder moves

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Justice of the Elders

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to boost Zyla or Volt

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Thalassa can still fall easy victim to Thetys

drowsy jackal Sep 23, 2018, 11:35 AM

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Thoshiro isn't needed. Volt and Zyla can take out the enemies without Thunder Weakness.

polar valve Sep 23, 2018, 11:36 AM

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yes

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but being able to make more combos is better

drowsy jackal Sep 23, 2018, 11:36 AM

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It isn't needed but fine, have it your way.

polar valve Sep 23, 2018, 11:37 AM

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not everyone got Charmless and Zyla so why not

faint beacon Sep 23, 2018, 11:37 AM

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🤔

little berry Sep 23, 2018, 3:39 PM

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Where is teh test dungeon

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I dont have it

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reee

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not dungeon battle

fresh garnet Sep 23, 2018, 3:41 PM

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It's not a dungeon

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It's the icon on the sidebar

little berry Sep 23, 2018, 3:43 PM

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Its not there for me

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maybe because I have to many icons

brittle hemlock Sep 23, 2018, 3:58 PM

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scroll 🤔

little berry Sep 23, 2018, 3:58 PM

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I did

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Its not there

little berry Sep 23, 2018, 5:57 PM

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Who is the best unranked warmaster except Elvira

crystal vigil Sep 23, 2018, 5:58 PM

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Why except elvira?

brittle hemlock Sep 23, 2018, 5:59 PM

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Probably Necro/Barbael.

little berry Sep 23, 2018, 5:59 PM

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Cuz elvira is the best Cuz her trait

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I am really confused about necro

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how he is that good

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I know he have really good revival skill and TT skill and single spam able skill but all of this in ranked necro how is unranked necro that good?

brittle hemlock Sep 23, 2018, 6:01 PM

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Anticipation, Remove neg effects, Rez with Double Damage, 1% Life and 1 turn DCD, has a 70% attack with full life steal

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Necro unranked is a pretty good dark damage dealer

little berry Sep 23, 2018, 6:02 PM

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Oh

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What are the best runes for him

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And is he good on defence team?

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Hello?

brittle hemlock Sep 23, 2018, 6:04 PM

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I'm here, don't worry/

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You'd probably want two team speed and a strength rune ig

little berry Sep 23, 2018, 6:05 PM

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I see

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I like his design tbh

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OP LEGS

brittle hemlock Sep 23, 2018, 6:06 PM

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The legs 👌

little berry Sep 23, 2018, 7:49 PM

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Remove negative effects doesn't remove trait disabled.
So I guess remove positive effects won't remove trait protection, should it be the area effect of the magic WM

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Trait protection is just screaming to be the next big thing imo

misty elm Sep 23, 2018, 8:34 PM

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Trait Protection?

brittle hemlock Sep 23, 2018, 9:44 PM

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Protects against trait disabled ig. Not a thing right now

worthy scroll Sep 23, 2018, 10:07 PM

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Nope, but immune to trait disable sounds nice

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For the metal one to counter ingenica, barbael, Thalassa, talos, etc

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That or aoe Artifact for the metal one, Artifact 3 turns to make it closer to Thalassa

rancid turret Sep 24, 2018, 1:46 AM

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Hahahah

tall cedar Sep 24, 2018, 3:30 AM

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@little berry skillswise gortak has the best lvl 100 skills

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In my opinion

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He has a 70 base power skill

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And a 0cd 60 base power

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A 40 bp aoe which gives shield

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And an extra turn skill

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Necro is viable at 105 and 110

rancid turret Sep 24, 2018, 3:33 AM

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Lol lies

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Necromancer is better

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He has a revival skill

tall cedar Sep 24, 2018, 3:33 AM

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Yep. But not at lvl 100

rancid turret Sep 24, 2018, 3:33 AM

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Yes he does

tall cedar Sep 24, 2018, 3:34 AM

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That's enemy rez

rancid turret Sep 24, 2018, 3:34 AM

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And it gives damage boost

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Ohhhhh yea it is

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My bad I forgot

tall cedar Sep 24, 2018, 3:34 AM

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Lol

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Np

rancid turret Sep 24, 2018, 3:34 AM

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Yea then I agree

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Why is there so many reactions to your message?

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Who did that

fickle acorn Sep 24, 2018, 3:37 AM

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You.

rancid turret Sep 24, 2018, 3:37 AM

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Nope

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I was looking at the above tex

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Text*

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And wanted to see if demo said anything else

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And boom I saw that

fickle acorn Sep 24, 2018, 3:37 AM

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Uhuh.

rancid turret Sep 24, 2018, 3:38 AM

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Stop being sarcastic

tall cedar Sep 24, 2018, 3:46 AM

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Oof

little berry Sep 24, 2018, 4:32 AM

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IMO Thalassa has the best level 100 skills of all WM

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Well she does a bit of many things.. Debuff, remove buff, a megafreeze, a freeze and a good DOT

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Her freeze hater buff is also phenomenal

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I have a lvl 50 Barbatos that did 33k damage without strength runes after that buff

ornate oak Sep 24, 2018, 3:54 PM

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I think Elvira is still best at 100.

crystal vigil Sep 24, 2018, 4:06 PM

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psilotus mentioned best skills, but what makes elvira good is the trait, not the skills

inland trail Sep 24, 2018, 4:45 PM

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^

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I still think gortak is the best at 100 (skill wise), but thalassa is there too

tall cedar Sep 24, 2018, 5:57 PM

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^^

little berry Sep 24, 2018, 9:36 PM

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Why is 3 speed runes best for Barbael guys? Wat move has he that needs him moving 1st?

brittle hemlock Sep 24, 2018, 9:38 PM

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@little berry AOE total blind and AOE Trait Disable?

little berry Sep 24, 2018, 9:50 PM

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Cool, thanks

brittle hemlock Sep 24, 2018, 10:06 PM

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@little berry monster-wiki.com/monster/Warmaster_Barbael

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@pale fiber please delete that ping. Necromancer comes back every month.

pale fiber Sep 24, 2018, 10:13 PM

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Well the dungeon was up for less than a day couldn’t play 😡

fresh garnet Sep 24, 2018, 10:14 PM

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The dungeon was glitched.

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they had to take it down so people didn't get something messed up.

brittle hemlock Sep 24, 2018, 10:14 PM

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Does that make it ok to ping someone who is very busy, and asleep? Everyone suffered. Necromancer will come back, and that time will fly by. @pale fiber

fresh garnet Sep 24, 2018, 10:15 PM

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And i don't even know how many orbs i need for a rank 1 barbael.

brittle hemlock Sep 24, 2018, 10:15 PM

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4.6k i thibk

pale fiber Sep 24, 2018, 10:15 PM

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4700 orbs for rank 1

brittle hemlock Sep 24, 2018, 10:15 PM

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Check pinned and scroll down ion

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yep

fresh garnet Sep 24, 2018, 10:16 PM

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Including the first two dungeons

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or..?

brittle hemlock Sep 24, 2018, 10:16 PM

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yes

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2.3 for base WM, 2.4k for the r1 cells

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in pinned ;)

pale fiber Sep 24, 2018, 10:16 PM

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3 floors

brittle hemlock Sep 24, 2018, 10:16 PM

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you have to scroll a fair bit tho

fresh garnet Sep 24, 2018, 10:16 PM

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so, 2.4k.

pale fiber Sep 24, 2018, 10:17 PM

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800
1500
2400
3500

brittle hemlock Sep 24, 2018, 10:17 PM

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no

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2.4k is just floor 3

pale fiber Sep 24, 2018, 10:17 PM

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4700 orbs for rank 1 WM

brittle hemlock Sep 24, 2018, 10:17 PM

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2.3k for base, then 2.4k to do floor 3

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so 4.7k

fresh garnet Sep 24, 2018, 10:17 PM

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And i'm talking about only the ranking floor.

brittle hemlock Sep 24, 2018, 10:18 PM

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oh

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yep.

fresh garnet Sep 24, 2018, 10:18 PM

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Because i already have barbael.

wide python Sep 24, 2018, 10:20 PM

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@pale fiber idk who you tried to ping but read the rules please

fresh garnet Sep 24, 2018, 10:21 PM

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Alright.

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I can get that many orbs, it'll just take awhile.

brittle hemlock Sep 24, 2018, 10:22 PM

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@wide python he tried to ping fox

fresh garnet Sep 24, 2018, 10:29 PM

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Any tips for getting orbs?

hasty mortar Sep 24, 2018, 10:31 PM

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wait for orb rush hours 42 gems for 110 orbs or 20 gems for 50

fresh garnet Sep 24, 2018, 10:32 PM

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hmm..

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42 for 110 ain't bad.

brittle hemlock Sep 24, 2018, 10:37 PM

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also the timed challenges, ie love season grant 12.

little berry Sep 25, 2018, 12:15 AM

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Is current warmaster worth going for?

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IMO yes

little berry Sep 25, 2018, 2:01 AM

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Ok I have thalassa, necro and barbael now

frail pawn Sep 25, 2018, 2:05 AM

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Did you spend any money

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I only have 2.4k orbs without spending money and buying orbs with gems

little berry Sep 25, 2018, 9:43 AM

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No I don’t spend money

violet mesa Sep 25, 2018, 1:01 PM

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Isabells wanna be a mod

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😆

fickle acorn Sep 25, 2018, 1:02 PM

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So do you.

violet mesa Sep 25, 2018, 3:35 PM

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No

barren arch Sep 25, 2018, 3:36 PM

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Oh yes.

violet mesa Sep 25, 2018, 3:36 PM

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If I would. I would follow rules

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Not break em

barren arch Sep 25, 2018, 3:37 PM

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Nice one. 🧐

violet mesa Sep 25, 2018, 3:38 PM

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🤷

brittle hemlock Sep 25, 2018, 5:15 PM

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@violet mesa im a mod in community so i'm quite happy right now, but it is an offer i probably wouldnt refuse ;)

violet mesa Sep 25, 2018, 5:16 PM

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Ew

brittle hemlock Sep 25, 2018, 5:16 PM

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:/

fickle acorn Sep 25, 2018, 5:49 PM

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He says ew only because you got mod when he also tried to be mod in community.

violet mesa Sep 25, 2018, 5:53 PM

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Nha

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I would need to be active if wanted mod

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😂

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And to like people

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And be nice

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😷

wide python Sep 25, 2018, 5:58 PM

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I'm not nice

mortal bay Sep 25, 2018, 5:59 PM

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To an extent^

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You have your kind moments 😉

fickle acorn Sep 25, 2018, 6:00 PM

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I'm not that nice either and you know this. GWfroggyPeepoDetective

harsh pagoda Sep 25, 2018, 6:07 PM

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:GWfroggyPeepoDetective:

brittle hemlock Sep 25, 2018, 6:28 PM

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marianne, it's more like naughty moments with you, you're always nice and a little bit sneaky in dms too 😂

violet mesa Sep 25, 2018, 6:51 PM

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Only good thing about mod is going in peopled dms and complaining they did something wrong

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📎 Screenshot_20180925-145218_Discord.jpg

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Like this 😂

barren arch Sep 25, 2018, 6:56 PM

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We don’t complain, we ask.

violet mesa Sep 25, 2018, 6:57 PM

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Same thing

brittle hemlock Sep 25, 2018, 6:58 PM

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the best thing about mods are hearing stuff they kinda aren't allowed to say publicly ;)

fickle acorn Sep 25, 2018, 6:58 PM

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GWomoDrakeYea

barren arch Sep 25, 2018, 9:20 PM

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Never. 🤐

delicate jasper Sep 25, 2018, 10:53 PM

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😱

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XD

river laurel Sep 26, 2018, 4:23 PM

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Hey guys is the 50 orbs for 20 gems offer worth it?

tame beacon Sep 26, 2018, 4:24 PM

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Yes, if you're buying orbs then buy that one, and the next one which is 60 orbs for 22 gems

river laurel Sep 26, 2018, 4:24 PM

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Okay thanks

drowsy jackal Sep 26, 2018, 7:17 PM

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Is the Elvira Dungeon next?

little berry Sep 26, 2018, 7:20 PM

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Should be, yes.

drowsy jackal Sep 26, 2018, 7:21 PM

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Yes!! 😀

tall cedar Sep 27, 2018, 4:14 AM

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I think :gakora barbael necro and then elvira

drowsy jackal Sep 27, 2018, 5:57 AM

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Barbael and Necro's Dungeon already happend. It should be Elvira next. We only saw her Dungeon once.

tall cedar Sep 27, 2018, 6:25 AM

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Well they skipped necro once

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Maybe they will skip Elvira now

brittle hemlock Sep 27, 2018, 6:26 AM

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@tall cedar thats cause his dungeon bugged 🤔

tall cedar Sep 27, 2018, 6:37 AM

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@brittle hemlock nope

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I'm talking about when Elvira came out. Before Elvira dungeons came, gortak and barbael's replay Dungeons were there, but they skipped necromancer's replay dungeon and introduced elvira

brittle hemlock Sep 27, 2018, 6:40 AM

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🤷

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it doesnt matter much tho

tall cedar Sep 27, 2018, 6:41 AM

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😑

faint beacon Sep 27, 2018, 7:57 AM

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:GWgoaThinken:

nocturne crater Sep 27, 2018, 11:30 AM

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Thalassa has been out long enough now to form a view. I think Thalassa is a very poorly designed monster.

We had a great step in the right direction with Elvira, because Elvira shook up the pure speed build meta and so broadened variety of defences and attack teams, making the game more interesting. Even better, her tactical use is available at any rank, making her an accessible tool.

The one flaw in her design, IMO, is a Special that strips positive effects then Megastuns.

And then we have Thalassa.

A special that might as well say "I Win". The ability to chain Megafreeze in an environment where Freeze Immunity skills do not protect against Megafreeze. The ability to trait disable and Megafreeze. A ridiculous speed that brings speed teams firmly back into the meta, undoing all the good work brought about by Elvira. And Freeze Hater, with all that Megafreeze so that no strength runes are required.

Nothing clever or tactical or subtle about her. As ridiculously OP as Xiron was when first released. Another power creep jump. A huge set back.

Balance? Where? This is just a short term mistake that will take a long time to undo, pandering to those who want each monster to be more powerful than the last, rather than looking to broaden the options and tactical landscape.

I am not impressed.

dim lava Sep 27, 2018, 2:15 PM

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I will pass on this feedback. Thank you for taking the time to type out this analysis of Thalassa.

faint beacon Sep 27, 2018, 2:36 PM

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I can't even write anything 🤔

brittle hemlock Sep 27, 2018, 4:20 PM

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Someone said it. And they said it the right way.

fresh garnet Sep 27, 2018, 4:55 PM

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And i personally just use mokuso to remove the evasion elvira gives.

wide python Sep 27, 2018, 5:20 PM

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@nocturne crater now im going to ask you a mean question are you going to get her? 😬

brittle hemlock Sep 27, 2018, 5:25 PM

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i doubt he willl. Thalassa is now least priority for me, below even Gortak imo

tall cedar Sep 27, 2018, 5:31 PM

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^^

fresh garnet Sep 27, 2018, 6:11 PM

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Barbael's highest priority since he fills a role i want.

silk ridge Sep 27, 2018, 7:59 PM

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my point of view of thalassa even though I do not own this monster, I find this monster unique, first of all thalassa’s trait, gives double stamina a good trait with monsters like Voltaik, and charmless, and the fact that she has aoe mega freeze that doesn’t cost 250 stamina! Now that’s a good skill, she has single trait disable and a extra turn skill, a good deny, with amazing speed and health. I also know that she’s not the best WM but still is a good one at that.

fresh garnet Sep 27, 2018, 8:08 PM

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The trait's only good on the first 3 turns though.

little berry Sep 27, 2018, 8:12 PM

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Once fortified trait becomes a thing (a prediction) , thalassa will be countered.

fresh garnet Sep 27, 2018, 8:27 PM

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fortified..?

nocturne crater Sep 27, 2018, 9:21 PM

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@wide python Well, I never ranked Voltaik in protest, and got along just fine without him. And I never ranked Xiron in protest, and I got along just fine without it. But I do have both of them at low rank for collection, and so no doubt I will eventually get Thalassa. But I don't expect to rank her, in protest.

little berry Sep 27, 2018, 10:16 PM

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I’d actually say she is the best WM tho Cyber

brittle hemlock Sep 27, 2018, 10:17 PM

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smeg no

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keep the booliing for coalition.,

little berry Sep 27, 2018, 10:22 PM

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Oof

little berry Sep 28, 2018, 12:17 AM

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@nocturne crater well said

burnt basin Sep 28, 2018, 4:37 AM

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I could not agree more with @nocturne crater . This monster is breaking the good momentum that other WM brought to the game. As mentioned she has features that should not be there in her skill set such as the full combination of Trait Disable, extra turns, her speed, positive effects removal etc... only by making her slower and removing her ability to trait disable she would be great while remaining manageable by everyone. I'm not interesting in ranking such a monster (I'll keep her as a low ranked collector item for the time being), it kills any tactical interest. I don't doubt I will be able to find ways around her but that may not be the case for many lower ranked players and such monster is definitely a step back in the meta (shall we say "welcome back thetys"?). I don't understand how a monster like that could go past a prototype design and be released in the game as it is... it should have been obvious that Thalassa is a threat for gameplay stability itself.

nocturne crater Sep 28, 2018, 4:43 AM

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@burnt basin welcome back Thetys 2.0 and then some. At least Thetys was not given a broken Special on top of everything else.

misty elm Sep 28, 2018, 6:56 PM

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But the biggest question: will they change her based on feedback? I don't think so, because she's basically a p2w monster (yeah, you can get her at 100 for free, maybe at rank 1-2, but to get her to rank 5, you need something "else").

slow imp Sep 28, 2018, 6:57 PM

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Her special is almost like a insta-win condition

brittle hemlock Sep 28, 2018, 6:58 PM

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they changed cyber after listening to us

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and now hes arguably one of the best monsters in the gamr

misty elm Sep 28, 2018, 6:58 PM

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He's a race monster, not a Warmaster...

brittle hemlock Sep 28, 2018, 6:58 PM

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but he was changed through feedback.

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meaning the possibility for thalassa to be changed through feedback isnt ruled out.

misty elm Sep 28, 2018, 6:59 PM

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But it's extremely small

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Also, how did they change Cyber?

brittle hemlock Sep 28, 2018, 7:00 PM

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i don't think a buff of two moves to make the monster one of the best in the game is "small"

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he got a CDA single and AOE CDA

misty elm Sep 28, 2018, 7:00 PM

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Like Al Canine?

crystal vigil Sep 28, 2018, 7:01 PM

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i think he meant small possibility, not small buff

misty elm Sep 28, 2018, 7:01 PM

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Yeah, small possibility

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extremely small

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But, hey, maybe SP surprises us 😄

brittle hemlock Sep 28, 2018, 7:01 PM

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ah

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also trait got buffed too

misty elm Sep 28, 2018, 7:03 PM

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😑 Tough is everywhere now, poor Generals ...

atomic crow Sep 28, 2018, 7:08 PM

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tough is still good lol

misty elm Sep 28, 2018, 7:16 PM

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Yeah, it's good, but it was the trait for the Generals (Atum, Thetys,...) and now it's everywhere ...

wide python Sep 28, 2018, 9:00 PM

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Im an absolute fan of the new WM, I dont think i care if she is going to be OP I want her because I want it 😂

timid hornet Sep 28, 2018, 9:30 PM

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Like the design

atomic crow Sep 28, 2018, 10:06 PM

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the nature one? we got the moves yet or just the design?

brittle hemlock Sep 28, 2018, 10:09 PM

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@atomic crow no leaks in here ;p

mortal bay Sep 28, 2018, 10:10 PM

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What leaks ? 😉

brittle hemlock Sep 28, 2018, 10:14 PM

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Mr/Ms Yami... you knopw what I'm discussing ;)

atomic crow Sep 28, 2018, 10:20 PM

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hey. wasnt asking for leaks 👀

mortal bay Sep 28, 2018, 10:20 PM

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No leaks here 🤷‍♂️

atomic crow Sep 28, 2018, 10:20 PM

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errrr. just sayin if the devs released the moves yet

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yes thats it

mortal bay Sep 28, 2018, 10:21 PM

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Oops

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Is that the new nature Warmaster leak ???

atomic crow Sep 28, 2018, 10:37 PM

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no leaks 🤔

worthy scroll Sep 29, 2018, 2:41 AM

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I'm glad if the nature one is next, more time for orb saving for the metal one

nocturne crater Sep 29, 2018, 4:11 AM

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Good work by SP, fixing freeze immunity skills to cover Megafreeze. That goes some way towards balancing Thalassa, without nerfing her. A nice compromise.

wide python Sep 29, 2018, 7:56 AM

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Talking about Nature WM isnt really leaking as long as we are aware that when the info is from Taringa it can be changed

west bluff Sep 29, 2018, 8:08 AM

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I cant wait for it 😂 as long as i get 1300 orbs soon

keen sparrow Sep 29, 2018, 8:30 AM

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Here's a leak for ya 💦

drowsy jackal Sep 29, 2018, 2:25 PM

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Why is Gortak's Dungeon live?!

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It was supposed to be Elvira's. She is after Necro.

mortal bay Sep 29, 2018, 2:30 PM

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Gortak is after Thalassa

drowsy jackal Sep 29, 2018, 2:36 PM

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No. Elvira is next. The order is: 1. Gortak Dungeon, 2. Barbael Dungeon, 3. Necro Dungeon, fourth was supposed to be Elvira but Thalassa got realised, 5. Elvira Dungeon, and then Gortak.

tame beacon Sep 29, 2018, 2:40 PM

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The rotation was changed because of the bugs

tall cedar Sep 29, 2018, 2:40 PM

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No you don't get

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Everytime a new wm is released, the turn starts from gortak

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Perhaps it shouldn't happen, but it is happening

drowsy jackal Sep 29, 2018, 2:40 PM

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That's lame tbh.

tame beacon Sep 29, 2018, 2:40 PM

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Yeh I believe Demo is correct. The rotation got borked because of them stopping Barbael, so this is a reset of it

drowsy jackal Sep 29, 2018, 2:40 PM

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It doesn't make sence to me.

tall cedar Sep 29, 2018, 2:42 PM

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They should replay the previous wm first and then others

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Like after thalassa, Elvira and then rest

brittle hemlock Sep 29, 2018, 2:42 PM

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it'll be fine after this rotation.

tall cedar Sep 29, 2018, 2:42 PM

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Let's hope

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This happens

drowsy jackal Sep 29, 2018, 2:43 PM

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So, when the Nature WM gets realised, Elvira's Dungeon will be skipped again?!

faint beacon Sep 29, 2018, 2:43 PM

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🤔

tall cedar Sep 29, 2018, 2:43 PM

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Probably

tame beacon Sep 29, 2018, 2:43 PM

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Probably not

drowsy jackal Sep 29, 2018, 2:43 PM

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Cuz on Thalassa's realise, Elvira's Dungeon was cancelled.

tame beacon Sep 29, 2018, 2:43 PM

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Yeh that was a one off

tall cedar Sep 29, 2018, 2:44 PM

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On elvira's release necro was cancelled🤦

drowsy jackal Sep 29, 2018, 2:44 PM

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The worst thing is that i only need to complete 10 nodes. Only 10!

robust basin Sep 29, 2018, 2:44 PM

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Best war monster to get for lvl 100?

drowsy jackal Sep 29, 2018, 2:45 PM

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Waiting about 2 months to just complete 10 nodes is a bit lame.

tame beacon Sep 29, 2018, 2:46 PM

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Probably Elvira @robust basin

drowsy jackal Sep 29, 2018, 2:46 PM

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Yea, it's Elvira so far.

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Maybe they'll be future WMs better than Elvira on Lvl 100. You never know.

robust basin Sep 29, 2018, 2:46 PM

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Ya I am saving rn

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Got 400 rn 1200 more for lvl 100 monster xD

fresh garnet Sep 29, 2018, 5:23 PM

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And i'm just wondering which warmaster is even worth it since they seem to be breaking everything.

robust basin Sep 29, 2018, 6:21 PM

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I will wait till release of warmaster of each element

brittle hemlock Sep 29, 2018, 6:38 PM

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same here.

slow imp Sep 29, 2018, 6:43 PM

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And miss the level 10 rune?

wide python Sep 29, 2018, 6:58 PM

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I have enough for nature and not going to wait

little berry Sep 29, 2018, 10:33 PM

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Best 4 skills for thalassa at lvl 100?

drowsy jackal Sep 29, 2018, 10:57 PM

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Thalassa's Chosen
Artic Waves
High Pressure Fluid/Ocean Rain or Crowd Refresh.
Abysal Pressure
Runes: 3 Speed/TS
@little berry

little berry Sep 29, 2018, 10:59 PM

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Thanks @drowsy jackal

drowsy jackal Sep 29, 2018, 11:15 PM

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No worries.

little berry Sep 29, 2018, 11:28 PM

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Goto run 1 life on level 100 thalassa imo

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You want her to stay alive

velvet wind Sep 30, 2018, 5:51 AM

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What runes should I put on Gortak?

little berry Sep 30, 2018, 6:04 AM

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Whatever works for your team :) may be strength or may be just support runes.

fresh garnet Sep 30, 2018, 6:20 AM

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Why would gakora have strength? Full speed or full TS.

cyan socket Sep 30, 2018, 6:20 AM

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You can put goldsX goldsX goldsX

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:V

fresh garnet Sep 30, 2018, 6:20 AM

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Or 2 ts 1 speed.

velvet wind Sep 30, 2018, 6:52 AM

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Im talking about Gortak, the warmaster not about Gakora lol

brittle hemlock Sep 30, 2018, 10:45 AM

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Even then, two ts one strength.

robust basin Sep 30, 2018, 2:44 PM

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They will bring a similar offer again. Don't worry @slow imp

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After 2-3 releases

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I believe in sp

little berry Sep 30, 2018, 3:06 PM

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Lol

restive storm Sep 30, 2018, 9:49 PM

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yo what are warmasters

cinder field Sep 30, 2018, 9:58 PM

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Say, have the Thalassa rewards been delivered already?

wide python Sep 30, 2018, 10:07 PM

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i think it they will be Tuesday

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@restive storm Warmasters are powerful legendary monsters you can get when you are level 40 and have r1 monsters and enough orbs

cinder field Sep 30, 2018, 10:11 PM

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Hi Marianne. How are you?

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Thanks for the info. I was gone for a couple of days and thought I missed them.