monster-discussion

[mortal bay]

Might be a good idea to not allow high quantities of staff off work during the same time period

[pure latch]

You certainly have a much better shot of a decent amulet being added

I am sure her not having Shield amulet was a conscience decision

[barren arch]

Yes they were.

I spoke to a few myself, and their green lights were on. 😃👍🏻

[dusk rune]

Cool

Taringa will finally have interesting stuff again

🙃

[gusty siren]

@mortal bay maybe she is wearing an amulet too (if we basing this off design lol) - im sure its only a matter of time until they release a great diamond amulet

im sure they can tell by the lack of Amulet chest purchases something is wrong lol

[tame beacon]

If it’s just straight based on looks, then I’m outraged Barbael is not Sword/Shield! Can’t see a single trap on his body 😛

[mortal bay]

Necro was by far one of the best monster relic combos, they matched his design perfectly

Barbael was half there

Gortak was pretty spot on too

But out of all the secondary relic choices for Elvira, an amulet was what stood out ? Seriously ?

She’s wearing a suit of Armor, she holding a Shield, being a seemingly sentinel being an essence would fit nicely as well,

[tropic crag]

I know this isn't really about warmasters, but while we're on the topic of Taringa! being back, is it run by a dev?

[pure latch]

No it’s not pow

I think it’s pretty obvious why she doesn’t have a shield relic, putting a tenacity shield to go along with a evasion would be just straight up ridiculous

[tropic crag]

Hm yeah, you're right, I guess it'd make no sense if a dev ran it.

And agreed, she'd be even more insane

[gusty siren]

no pow the correlation between team back and taringa getting content is just that the team is working on releasing more stuff so more data to mine for taringa

and yeah shield would be too op - nice dreaming tho yami

[wide python]

He says he works for SP lol

but everyone can say that 😂

[dusk rune]

^ what Tek said Dorito

[violet mesa]

I work for sp. For all you know

[wide python]

😂

the last one who sort of said that was clackers 😜

he said he had a friend working there you Dre?

[gusty siren]

lol clackers said that?

[violet mesa]

😳

[spark crow]

;/ i need the fire warmaster back

[tropic crag]

yeah Clacko said that multiple times lmao

[slender lagoon]

What happened to Necromancer War Master Event?

[haughty dragon]

So the next one is necro again?

[mortal bay]

Elvira dungeon should be out Thursday

And a light combo pack should replace the current dark one

[polar valve]

should

we dont know if they have fixed them yet

but since the problem was with progress being saved, first time shouldnt be a problem

[drowsy jackal]

It's been a while actually.

[polar valve]

remember when they said the dungeons are back to stay

hhahahahahhaa

[ripe vigil]

It was opposite day

[haughty dragon]

Hey, genuine advice time- should I spend all my orbs on Elvira?

I currently have 11k

I’m really thinking due to the “wm blessing” it might b better to wait till i have 19k orbs and just clear an entire wm and get all the sweet rewards that come w it

Like two diamond relics from the last floor

Any advice?

[fickle acorn]

Honestly, I would wait to save up Orbs and go ham on a later Warmaster. Elvira is really good and all but I'm sure a different Warmaster will come up soon that could be equally as good as her or maybe even better. If that happens, you could get a Rank 5 WM and all of the blessing rewards instead of not getting a Rank 5 Elvira rn and not getting all of the blessing rewards.

[haughty dragon]

😩

Ur right and it hurts to hear it

[fickle acorn]

Yea....but I'm sure it'll be worth it. ^^

[haughty dragon]

Waiting for the artifact wm that has anticipation or something haha

[fickle acorn]

Lol.

[harsh pagoda]

But, I want Elvira. Why is life so cruel.

[haughty dragon]

I feel ur pain melody

I cant wait to encounter a bunch of elvira opponents and di to all of them bc i have no defense to that

I literally cannot counter an elvira 😭

[harsh pagoda]

I probably get her anyways, cause I'm a sucker for temptation.

[tall cedar]

👀

[nocturne crater]

A slow team carrying strength and a level 100 Elvira should be sufficient to counter Elvira in many cases. So spend 2300 Orbs then keep saving, imo.

[tough wraith]

Oh wow, C0ntr1v3d on Discord! Have you finally given in @nocturne crater 😱 😎

And on topic, I have decided to save 2300 orbs for each Warmaster from now on (got Necromancer) to cash in on the X rune that comes with the initial 'blessing'. Definitely makes the investment worth it!

[nocturne crater]

Hey David; just dipping in from time to time. And, I agree - the benefits of a level 100 WM are significant due to area traits, irrespective of level. The blessing rewards are a bonus.

[tough wraith]

Yep, popped a life plus two ts on my Necromancer and he worked a treat in combination with my other monsters. Warmasters are definitely useful at Lvl 100!!!

[sand knoll]

How do you counter elvira

[crystal vigil]

remove positive effects

[polar valve]

Ingenica is fastets counter in game?

[kind crane]

Sammy can counter her

And he’s in winged so will come up against her

[tall cedar]

👌

Sammy is one of the best monster in the game for this reason

He can literally counter everything

You can pain scourge/pestilence to remove evasion

[kind crane]

I’m gunna try push mine from 110-115 soon

[tall cedar]

Nice

I have him 115😛

[kind crane]

I use FS 😬

[tall cedar]

Pc here😐

[kind crane]

Still gunna get Elvira just deciding 3 ts or 2 ts and 1 strength

So many pc users 🙄

[tall cedar]

I do have a 110 FS🤗

Alongside 115 pc

[kind crane]

I just think pc is average

I want that give double damage move tho

[lusty iron]

elvira can run 2 ts and any team rune honestly

[sand knoll]

yea luke

i wonder when dungeons will come again

[kind crane]

Nemesis dungeons?

[shell cairn]

Does anyone know the light warmaster base stat?

[tame beacon]

Not yet nope

[wide python]

maybe its nice to give Elvira 3 team strength 🤔

[kind crane]

I’ve had similar suggestion in my team. Just seems very bold 😂

[nocturne crater]

The key with Elvira is to remember that everyone will run Ingenica or Sammy up front to strip Evasion. So that wastes a fast opening. So you need your other two monsters to go next before the enemy team gets to follow up. So, don't go too slow. There is a balance to be struck.

[kind crane]

Not many really have Ingenica or Sammy tho tbf

[ornate oak]

Question tho, won’t Ingenica’s trait disable miss due to invasion?

I understand Samael’s positive effect removal working, but a little confused on Ingenica.

[tame beacon]

It will yes

As it comes before the remove positive effects

[nocturne crater]

Yes it will, Thanos.

But will still strip Evasion.

[ornate oak]

Wow. So Ingenica’s aoe trait disable will miss, but still strip the Evasion? I must be missing something here. What am I not understanding correctly?

[tame beacon]

The area caster: evasion doesn't give everyone a evasion trait. It just gives everyone the evasion effect as the start of battle

Remove positive effects still works on removing it

Same as if your monster goes, it'll disappear

[ornate oak]

I don’t use Ingenica often. Based off your reply, I’m assuming her aoe trait disable also removes positive effects?

[tame beacon]

Yes 😃

[ornate oak]

Ahhhh I get it now.

Thanks man, I was thinking too far into it.

Well that’s annoying. I see why everyone in the top 500 uses her on defense.

[tame beacon]

No worries! Word order of the move is supposed to be important, so the trait disable comes first. Misses. Then the remove positive effects clears evasion 😃

[ornate oak]

Got ya, just didn’t know she also removed positive effects. She’s indeed strong.

[tame beacon]

She is! And now having a speedy version will help too

[ornate oak]

Sheesh! Time to do my daily tasks more seriously now.

[mortal bay]

Most people that get her ranked up are going to run her 3ts just like pretty much all the warmasters. It depends who you pair her with as to what runes you give her. I’ll be making her an attacker with 2ts and a strength rune personally as she’ll be replacing my Patrion on my pvp offends team

Offence*

She’s going to have high life but I hope that doesn’t mean her power and speed are going to be low. Around 3575 power and 3465 speed would be amazing

[mortal bay]

There’s not a base that would scare me once I get Elvira and putting her Ingenica and Al Canine. Every base is going to be easy

[slow imp]

On offense only

[kind crane]

Even for defence it’ll be useful. If the opponent uses sammy or Ingenica they’ll still be required to have a fast denier in after. Otherwise pretty useless

Because sammy for example. Will remove it. Then your denier could just get in and stop their heavy hitters regardlwss

[slow imp]

It works pretty good on defense but I wouldn't say that every base is easy

[kind crane]

I’d probably do 3ts on it. Denier. Then a heavy hitter. Like usual

It’s just a better support than most

[mortal bay]

Once she comes out I’m going to upload videos of how she destroys all the popular bases

[kind crane]

Hahaha that’ll be funny to watch

What rank you getting yours to?

[violet mesa]

Knowing yami. He will get some cool secret government stuff and get it r5

🤷

[mortal bay]

I need 2000 orbs to get r5

[kind crane]

Fair play, only one pack

At r3-5 deffo worth a strength imo

Below that just a strong support

[mortal bay]

If you’re using her against 130’s either take her to 130 or leave her at 100. Anything in between is pretty pointless

[kind crane]

Agreed. I’m getting her to 100 for the evasion alone and the lvl X rune

Then saving for the next one 🤷🏻‍♂️

[lusty iron]

@mortal bay u have a youtube?

[mortal bay]

Ye nothing big though

Literally just a log of some battles for friends

[lusty iron]

How is it called?

[mortal bay]

https://youtu.be/rjYs-PmIIVM

[lusty iron]

thx

[sand knoll]

Would demise cloud and rocigon make a good team for warmaster event

[lusty iron]

they're all support so Idk

[kind crane]

I think Bella, demise, gakora maybe

Keep giving Bella double damage and an extra go. She’ll 1 hit kill their team

[sand knoll]

Idh Bella

The only 3 light monsters are cloud demise and rocigon

Lol rip

[kind crane]

Do you have a strength on cloud?

Or rocigon?

[sand knoll]

I can add

[kind crane]

I have seen 2 ts 1 strength on cloud before. Don’t know Roci’s moves.

But just get Demise to give a heavy hitter double damage and you’ll be fine. First 2 dungeons will be easy anyway

[sand knoll]

👍

Thanks

[pure latch]

My favorite pic of the day

How to destroy 3 130 warmasters w a ftp team 😁

[kind crane]

By getting a team to carry ya? 😏😏

[pure latch]

Check top battle vs beja 😉

Easy win

[worthy scroll]

I think I could get her at 100, definetly not more than that, by lack of ranked light monsters, but Have enough orbs for a rank 3 that I've been saving

[polar valve]

regarding the warmaster dungeon, can anyone do me a favor and post what team they used to clear the 2nd-5th floor and how difficult it was

[kind crane]

It’s not out yet

@worthy scroll I’d get this to 100 then carry on saving. Rank up the next one

[polar valve]

yes, but thats just a heads-up

[worthy scroll]

I think so, cause I want the blessing from one of them, got ranked metals up to 4 to that's my goal

[polar valve]

I would like to know what I will be dealing with before dwelling in there

[kind crane]

I want that at 100. Get the X. Then maybe try for magic

[worthy scroll]

There should be enough time to get back the 2300 orbs for the next one

and for what it seems, she will be amazing at 100

I think I'll get her

[crystal vigil]

i only have like 1.5k orbs

so i won't get the blessing

but i'll totally get her eventually

[little berry]

Arch knight if you got him levelled

[worthy scroll]

Rank4 gakora, rank 2 demise and rank 2 Bella should be enough for the first 2 floors in my case, I hope

rank 3 rocigon rank 1 valgar

[polar valve]

I do not have a rank 4 gakora, a rank 2 demise

a rank 3 rogicon or a rank 1 valgar

my runes are level 4-7

unequipping and unlocking slots is not good

people have said that to me, but I am wooried

worried*

my best mon is at 110

2 at 110, one at 105

[worthy scroll]

oh really

that should be easy then

[polar valve]

okay, thanks for telling

people would just say its easy but none of them told me what level would I be facing

[worthy scroll]

I recall I tried like the first 3 steps on gortak, but I don't recall what the monsters were lol

Thanks for sharing that

[polar valve]

cool

thanks

are epics allowed on wm dungeons?

cool

will take m kaori with me

r2

I choose wrong skills tho

didnt take her be water!

[kind crane]

This gunna seem like a rookie question but gotta make sure...

You don’t need stamina for the dungeon do ya? You just use orbs

[polar valve]

zizooo can you post your kaori here?

[kind crane]

Sweet, thought so. Just didn’t wanna turn up and be surprised 😂

Buzzzinngg for when I can use it in war

I reckon they’ll do light rules for Friday/sat

Forgot about crafting and hatching 🤮

[crystal vigil]

my kaori is the 3 extra turn skills(damage, precision and damage boost) and deadly haiku

[polar valve]

deadly haiku is all team sunburn and bleed?

[crystal vigil]

yes

[tall cedar]

I use shikake waza, be water, star killer, deadly haiku @polar valve

[river laurel]

Hey guys. Anyone know how much orbs it costs to get 100 cells of a war master? (Basically enough to complete floors 1 and 2)

[harsh pagoda]

2.3k orbs

[river laurel]

Thanks!

[worthy scroll]

I can even see people running xiron with strength runes now, that would be fun

Sammy turn transfers into a ruby using like 3 strength and hitting laying odds like a truck in the face

For sure Elvira will allow some crazy strategies at least attack wise

[gusty siren]

don't know about 3 strength xiron but one nice thing will be having that round of evasion to at least do one safe turn transfer skill in front of faraday - evade his initial hit so you can go back to using some nice sammy precision combos

[spring birch]

Explosion would be better for an attack cause of the added ignition.

But Evasion also helps sammy as he can TT to a attacker without the Faraday OTKing the attacker.

[brittle hemlock]

TT, OTK?

[spring birch]

Turn transfer, one turn ko

[brittle hemlock]

Ah

[spring birch]

Or one turn kill

[gusty siren]

yep agreed - i guess you can be slower and have loaded red attacker - like barbatos just chilling behind evasion so 3 ss sammy pc, 3ts elvira, 3 strength barbatos. Let enemy xiron (for example) go first then sammy buff barby - barby self buff if still has evasion and wipe

[spring birch]

I think Burogter will shift into the meta again due to Bloodthirsty.

[gusty siren]

you can essentially do this with level 100 elvira

yeah he will

[worthy scroll]

I mentioned laying odds cause that one is good for draining stamina aoe with the draining staff, next round you can do explosion

Well maybe not all strength on xiron, but at least one will do a lot of damage lol

I'm guessing shields will become ever more present on defense

[sage magnet]

so when people start to 1 shot other teams cause of light warmaster do you think her trait gets nerfed and if so can we get refunds?

I want to use my orbs on her but if her evasion gets nerfed, which Im sure it will, I dont want her anymore

[nocturne crater]

@sage magnet she will have a huge impact on the Meta, but because the one turn Evasion requires only a level 100, she will be eveywhere - and is her own counter. So the balance will not necessarily shift. The speed game certainly will, as both attack and defence try to find the right balance of speed and power and buff stripping. I really don't expect a nerf.

[sage magnet]

does she even need to be 100 though? Level her to 50 to live through pesty traps, 2 lvl 100 attacks just with 3 X str runes and game over if no remove positive effects, and we know the AI does not use that very much

[nocturne crater]

Yeah I should have said Rank 0. But several monsters do buff strip by default (eg Hydratila and Sammy)

[sage magnet]

ya but PVP is going to be very different now and low level more F2P players will be higher since they can pick and choose there battles, I just think its going to be a mess

[tired juniper]

How much money does it cost to snag a warmaster?

[main current]

Tough question since they can be had for free with patience. It will just take a while to build up to 2400 orbs. Daily tasks, weekly events, and pvp seasons.

[nocturne crater]

4 weeks
28 x 5 daily Orbs = 140
12 x 12 challenge Orbs = 144
= 284 Orbs
2 x 300 pvp Legendary III = 600
= 884 Orbs free per 4 week cycle

2300 Orbs for Warmaster Egg
= 1416 to buy
= 13 sets of 110 Orbs for 42 gems on sale) = 546 gems

For each 28 day cycle between Warmasters.

Entirely possible for f2p

Depending ofc on how advanced the f2p player is.

[sand knoll]

damn bro

haha

legendary III is like impossible

[nocturne crater]

...
Well...
With no pvp orbs, it would need 19 sets of 110 Orbs at 42 gems each to get the necessary 2300. So, 798 gems.

But an advanced f2p should easily reach LIII. I thought I was being conservative.

[gusty siren]

good breakdown but i would say legendary 3 is hard to attain for most f2p (unless they have been blessed with great frat teams) but yeah it doesnt make that much of a difference in the end

[nocturne crater]

LIII is top 500, no?

[sand knoll]

im stuck at L IV

[gusty siren]

surely r0 easily attainable but ranking would take a long time

yeah top 500

[sand knoll]

tek

are u legendary 4

[gusty siren]

no

usually l2/l1

[sand knoll]

wow

[gusty siren]

l3 is attainable for sure but very small percentage of ML population could say they f2p in l3 - less than 50 players i would say

and end of season that is

i think ill finally spend an orb on elvira tho - just for rank 0

[sand knoll]

whats ur team tek

wanna check u out

[gusty siren]

i wouldnt use her defense much anyways and all you need is r0 for offense really if you know what ur doing

[sand knoll]

😄

[gusty siren]

😉

[tough wraith]

Yep, C0ntr1v3d is correct. I'm F2P (essentially, I bought the odd pack in the past) and I can do it with some careful gem housekeeping!

L3 in PvP is tough, but I can do it about every second season. It depends a on my luck on the last day of the season....

[gusty siren]

Yeah pretty annoying it all boils down to last day and a bit of luck - especially if ur north american time zone as season ends so late. i know many season i ended #31 or #101

[tough wraith]

I can't complain about the finish time in Oz. It ends at 22:30 for me on Monday night which is just about perfect! 😎

[ornate oak]

L3 is tough to get into and stay there. Though I don’t have many level 120s+ I can keep up with higher ranked teams.

[gusty siren]

dang so lucky

4am/5am here

[ornate oak]

L4 is definitely attainable.

[gusty siren]

l4 is easy as its not based on rank but L3+ you can be sitting pretty with shield up and if enough people jump ahead of you you are knocked down

[ornate oak]

True, and that’s exactly what happens to me. I was in L3 only twice.

[tough wraith]

I can't stay in L3, so my tactic is to stay just below the threshold to L3 and then do a dash about an hour before the end. If I get in far enough before I get attacked, I'm save, if I get attacked too early and get knocked out, I usually give up....

[ornate oak]

I do the same thing David. For some reason though, I’m usually bombarded with enemy monsters doing their specials 3 times or missing my denials.

I don’t know what’s up with that happening.

[tough wraith]

Yep, I know exactly what you mean 😂 😩

[ornate oak]

RIP.

[tame beacon]

Elvira stats! 3476 Power, 3498 Speed, 41922 Life. Sword/Amulet relic. 155 GPM 😦

Her special: 85 power, AOE remove neg effects and mega stun

Her stamina costs max out at 34 for all moves so pretty low. No 0CD moves though

Rank up moves: 45 AOE sunburn/AOE remove neg, heal 35%, precision, Dam boost/60 single sunburn and bleed and self evasion/50 single + all Allies light damage protection

She also has a 70 single sunburn/55 single + damage protection to all allies/AOE remove neg + heal 50%

[floral yacht]

Is it worth getting Elvira

[frosty reef]

@tame beacon no extra turn its evasion

[tame beacon]

You are correct! Sorry typo 😄

[tired juniper]

Jeez im free to play and it seems impossible to even get to legendary 4 without lvl 30 warmasters lvl 10 runes and crazy good relics

Lvl 130**

I mean lets be real it is pretty solidly behind a pay wall. I was just asking how much actual money it costs

[tame beacon]

Eh, I reckon you could get to L4 without a WM. Probably even without a Nemesis if you rank good monsters right

[crystal vigil]

i got to legendary 4 several times with 3 level 115 race monsters with level 4-7 runes.

Scrap Warrior, Ixofex and Balor used to be my team, but now i replaced Ixofex with Flamerion and Scrap warrior is sometimes replaced by dungeon master or gortak depending on who i'm facing

[nocturne crater]

@tired juniper with no pvp orbs at all, and just the daily 5 + the 12 from events, the cost to get a Warmaster egg is 770 gems if buying orbs only on sale and only spending 42 gems per sale, spread over the 4 weeks between Warmasters. Hardly a paywall. And remember, a Rank 0 Warmaster - unlike other monsters - is effective at Rank 0. Warmasters are far more f2p friendly than VIPs or Nemesis.

OFC, you can get enough Orbs without spending any gems at all, but it would take a long time without pvp rewards.

[mossy folio]

Nice to finally see u on discord @nocturne crater

Still remember my 1st encounter against yr 6 pesti traps enough to otk my monsters

[tired juniper]

770 gems over 4 weeks eh

So about $80 aud

I mean they may be MORE f2p friendly than vips and nemesis but that doesnt really make them f2p friendly

[frosty reef]

40+ gems on dungeons every week

+pvp rewards

+races and team battleground

+challenges

[tired juniper]

Pvp rewards cost money/gems.. races and team battlegrounds cost money/gems, and challenges get much harder the more you level up

[mossy folio]

Free gems from dungeons dont cost anything

[nocturne crater]

770 gems does NOT cost $80 AUD. On Android, $65 gets 1,700.

[tired juniper]

I mean dont get me wrong in not complaining, i understand this game is very much pay to win, and if you want the newest and best monsters it costs money. I was just asking how much money it costs

[steel panther]

@tired juniper

Im free to play

[mossy folio]

Same with me from the day i started

[steel panther]

No warmasters or lvl ten runrs

Runes

[trail yarrow]

That's the same name I have on my Kihaku.

[tired juniper]

Whoa what version of the game do you have @nocturne crater , im looking at it right now, and 1700 gems cost 79.99 at this moment, with a half price discount

[steel panther]

Its been four strait season ive got legendary four and four of those monsters i didnt even have in the first season i got legendary four

[trail yarrow]

Same name I have on Demise too.

[steel panther]

So @tired juniper its completely possible

Im an australian to

But ive never spent a dime

[tired juniper]

Oh yeah its possible i understand that, i was just asking how much it would cost out of curiousity

[steel panther]

Mhhhhhhhhh

[tired juniper]

And the answer is too much for me hahaha

[steel panther]

Lol

[tired juniper]

Id buy one for 5 bucks for sure

[kind crane]

You could do it for a pack easy

Wait for a Hot offer. 2k gems for 30

Or yours will be like 500 gems for 10

[steel panther]

Yeh

[tired juniper]

Hahaha man i dont know if its worth 30 bucks to me even

[steel panther]

Lol

[tired juniper]

Not too mention i dont even have 3 rank 1 legendaries of each type

[kind crane]

Then join a better team and hope they’ll carry you

[tired juniper]

My team is full of noobs and i feel like its my responsibilty to help them lollll

[steel panther]

Lukes is right

[kind crane]

I had a teammate who pretended he was ftp and just wanted to be carried. Got a few 115/120s out of it

You could do the same

[steel panther]

Lol

[faint beacon]

😏

[kind crane]

Not with me tho, I’m not one for carrying. I’ve got a bad back 😬

[steel panther]

Is that u jatt

@faint beacon

Yes it is

Me to smart

[faint beacon]

Yea🙄

[tired juniper]

I wouldnt mind being in a team where people know whats up

[steel panther]

Lol

My team currently have one space

[kind crane]

Get applying Jumzey

[kind crane]

Only 115 Fatid, let down

[steel panther]

Lol

Lolo

[faint beacon]

😒

[kind crane]

Good war team tho

Jumzey just rank up Nishants pet and darmiths bg

They can easy get you leg 4

[tired juniper]

My current attacking team is rank1 thetys, charmless and timerion

[nocturne crater]

Right.

---

4 weeks between Warmaster releases
2300 Orbs for Warmaster Egg

---

Free Orbs:

28 x 5 daily Orbs = 140
12 x 12 challenge Orbs = 144
= 284 Orbs
2 x 120 pvp rewards Gold I = 240
= 524 Orbs free per 4 week cycle

---

Purchased Orbs

= 1776 left to buy
= 17 sets of 110 Orbs for 42 gems (when on sale; 50 for 20 gems + 60 for 22 gems) = 714 gems spread over 4 weeks.

---

**Free Gems per week:

40 from Dungeons
21 from daily reward
115 from challenges (top 5000)

• Monsterwood

=176 free/week (+ Monsterwood).

---

4 weeks between Warmasters
= 704 free gems (+Monsterwood)

---

There you go. If you get 10 gems from Monsterwood in a month, that is a free Warmaster every time a new one arrives.

@tired juniper Android. Apple gouges.

[tame beacon]

Oooh they also put the Warmaster back in Elvira's name 😄

[tired juniper]

Im on android bro?

But this is also assuming you dont spend gems on anything other than orbs yeah?

[little berry]

I think we can use a skill to remove the positive effects of targets and remove Evasion, but in test mode, Legion never plays Forget The Miserables skill 😏

[little berry]

If I lose on a node, do I have to pay orbs again or just a free fight?

[barren arch]

Just stamina to replay.

[frosty reef]

Free fight i think

[little berry]

Alright thanks guys

[mossy folio]

Does the orbs still go on sale during the event

[little berry]

You mean the 2500 one?

[mossy folio]

No the daily one

Every couple of hrs it refreshers

[wide python]

I hope so

[violet mesa]

Effort of doing the dungeons

Sooooo many levels

[mossy folio]

Just select auto mode 1st two floors very easy to bypass

[next plover]

How far will 5.8k orbs take me?

3 floors right?

[crystal vigil]

yes

[misty elm]

Around that, yes. And here I am with 912 orbs 😄 😦

[violet mesa]

😁

[crystal vigil]

so many people who weren't dumb enough to get someone before waiting for more warmasters to come out

at least i'll get 10 elementium once i get barbael and talany

[slow imp]

Oof I regret going for necromancer

[next plover]

What moves does Elvira get each rank up?

[mossy folio]

https://youtu.be/nVyjIe8OL3Q

@next plover

[wide python]

already in Youtube but dont mind it here too

[worthy scroll]

how gorgeous will Sammy PC, Sammy Fever and Elvira will look

plus I think it will work on pvp attack

[wide python]

thats my team 🙃

[worthy scroll]

Awesome

[wide python]

only because they look awesome together 😜

[harsh pagoda]

Angelic Team

[keen sparrow]

Did anyone get a speed x rune after completing 2nd floor?

[harsh pagoda]

You'll get the rewards after the dungeon are over.

[keen sparrow]

Nice, tyvm

[floral yacht]

Dang it

[drowsy jackal]

#SaveElvira

[next plover]

#GetSomeGems

[little berry]

How many orbs for 2 floors

[mortal bay]

2300

[little berry]

Are they easy or challenging?

[next plover]

Easy

[little berry]

Thanks

[mortal bay]

Pretty easy

[little berry]

Ty Yami

[worthy scroll]

Very easy the first 2 floors

Did all on auto

[little berry]

So I got the 100 cells, is it a must to craft for the X rune?

[wide python]

why wouldent you craft?

[little berry]

To save 70 gems on the vault

Until a discount

[wide python]

oki

[sand knoll]

@slow imp necromancer is the best

[haughty dragon]

Im so torn

Sitting at 11k orbs and really want elvira

I really wanted necro too..

I think barbael is the best still, his moveset is insane

And he is so damn fast

[worthy scroll]

Out of the ones that are released, I think she is the best at 100

[slow imp]

@sand knoll Eh...I think he's second to best.

[haughty dragon]

Current wm ranked (my opinion)

1. Barbeal
2. Elvira
3. Gortak
4. Necro

Almost purely bc all necro is useless on defense

Due to terrible AI

[sand knoll]

hes the best on offense

see so many ppl putting deniers(possesion) on defense

[haughty dragon]

Not rly in L3

L3 and up doesnt rly on any real denier besides xiron and timmy

And why would anyone chose to attack a necro base w a pos based team lol

[fresh oracle]

Who is the bet lvl 100 warmaster?

[haughty dragon]

Elvira

So far..

[sand knoll]

ye lol

[lusty iron]

That would be my rankings as well

I don't elvira is number 1 because u use her just for the trait

[little berry]

Don’t you use all the Warmasters for the trait? 🤔

[lusty iron]

No

[tall cedar]

@haughty dragon go for a r5 warmaster if you have good r5 monsters of that element

[lusty iron]

Rank 5 barbael ftw

[slow imp]

Why does he have a pet? Is he a Warmaster lol? 🤔

[little berry]

Someone on Facebook said it’s not a warmaster... I keep thinking it is

😬

[tame beacon]

I’m pretty sure it’s not

[slow imp]

He looks like a WM

But the gems dungeon background says otherwise

[tame beacon]

He’s not been called a warmaster in any of the info. All others were right away

And that blob thing is part of his special animation. None of the other pets are, they’re something separate

[little berry]

Ok thanks

[ornate oak]

Elvira proves why Ingenica and Samael are top monsters. The ability to remove negative and positive effects is huge.

[tall cedar]

@slow imp it's a new monster called geolotron or something

A new island I think

@ornate oak😍 😍

Samael already proved it😛

[slow imp]

I know that but that blob looking pet confused me

[tall cedar]

Perhaps it's aladin's genie😂

[lusty iron]

Maybe a new set of monsters

pet trainers

yeh

[worthy scroll]

Not a pet, seems to be part of his attack

[crystal vigil]

level 112 pyro 🤔

[tall cedar]

🤦

I fed it to 115 @crystal vigil

Happy?😂 😂

[violet mesa]

Demo how you pass the 70k shield

😂

[ocean rock]

@violet mesa what shield?

Idk what shield you are talking, but I got this ss

All died from DoTs only

[brittle hemlock]

no wonder, jc faraday must be having a bad day

[tame beacon]

I saw that pre-edit 😉

But yeh, Faraday was apparently given every illness under the sun. Really testing Elvira’s negative removal!

[violet mesa]

@ocean rock this shield

Yami has 70k shield

And demo won

😔

[gusty siren]

well thats not the base he hit in his SS above tho lol

[violet mesa]

Oh nvm

He got lucky 😔

[brittle hemlock]

@tame beacon you saw nothing of the sort!!

[wide python]

http://monster-wiki.com/monster/Warmaster_Elvira

[misty elm]

That purple thing looks like it came from Majin Buu (in the toilet 😄 )

[kind crane]

Not sure if it’s already been put in here but does anyone have best skill set for Elvira at 100

[sand knoll]

Elvira is bad on defense

[worthy scroll]

But awesome on offense

And just by being there

[sand knoll]

Yea

No doubt she's top 3 attack monster

[pure latch]

Well in that fight yea, that guy is lvl 4 for a reason. That’s a horrible defense

[worthy scroll]

I like her so much, having her allows you to do some weird things, on those test battles I'm running her with team strength, that's a rune I thought I'd never use on pvp

[sly basin]

On def shes not good no

Too many monsters thay remove pos effect

[pure latch]

I’m gonna try it out red

Yea there are tons

But who removes and Denys? Virtually none

So at the very least you give your denier a free shot

[sly basin]

Good point

Thinking if a attack team with elvira and a nature atacker. But I have prince on def 😅

[pure latch]

I have no problems on offense, defense tho is tough to find wins

[worthy scroll]

Yeah I don't think she'll do that amazing on defense, maybe ranked, she has good support and atk skills, maybe ts holder, traditional speed game but now you're forcing the enemy to clean first

I only can get her at 100, so I won't be trying her on defense

[sand knoll]

She ain't even half bad on defense

She's all bad on defense

She's probably the best attack monster tho

Credit where is due

[pure latch]

@sand knoll do you mind me asking what level you are in pvp and how many Elvira bases you have fought

[mortal bay]

Elvira is amazing on defense lol

[worthy scroll]

At 130 she probably is

At 100 I don't think so, not as good as she is on attack at 100

[mortal bay]

Every single monster in this game is better on offense then they are on defence

[worthy scroll]

Yeah you're right

[little berry]

No monster is unbeatable in PvP defense, since you can choose any monster of your monstagram, the only thing that makes you win a defense are the runes that are hidden

Elvira is great for offense, but she is not good on defense I think

[sly basin]

Time.to.feed up mine

And attck some bases

[mortal bay]

I beg to differ, to beat an Elvira base you kinda need to know how fast her team is in order to decide which monsters to use

If the Elvira defence is slow, you use 3ts plus a 3 speed deny + a 3speed positive effects remover

[sly basin]

Still in doubt. Mine will be 105

[mortal bay]

If the Elvira defence is fast, you would use a monster with evasion

[balmy scaffold]

Eyyyy

[brittle hemlock]

finally, someone else who hoards every rare cell they find

[balmy scaffold]

c:

[little berry]

@balmy scaffold how much orbs did you need to unlock her

[balmy scaffold]

2300

@little berry

[little berry]

Damn

Big number

[balmy scaffold]

Was not too bad save until u have 2300 then make sure u can beat the dungeons you want to attack

[sand knoll]

@pure latch ive fought q a few alrd

am at L4

[nocturne crater]

Elvira is just fine on defence. Any defence is beatable if you know what the setup is, and Elvira is no different. But she does allow a whole new tactical field, and can ground a defence that can beat the best, if the attacker misjudges.

[fresh oracle]

Brings Sammy

[nocturne crater]

Bea brought two:

[drowsy jackal]

What skill did you get at Rank 1?

[nocturne crater]

AoE sunburn

(She has a Jakugan)

[drowsy jackal]

Aoe Sunburn isn't too bad tbh.

[sly basin]

Hmm or keep and change sinner

[nocturne crater]

Change Repent Sinner imo. Words Wont Save You is very useful in my experience.

[sly basin]

Thanks! Time to try some pvp

What's your rune?

[nocturne crater]

My attack Elvira is 2 team speed 1 team strength. My defence Elvira is all team speed. But, lots of valid options.

[sly basin]

I heared so many options

[wide python]

I want her with team strength

and team speed

[worthy scroll]

so I'm the only one running her with team strenght lol?

feel like a weirdo by doing that

[mortal bay]

@nocturne crater I’m liking your Valgar set up, be nice to my trophies 😥😘

[violet mesa]

😂

[wide python]

😂

specially that 😘

[misty elm]

Guys, what do you think about this? Elvira (3 Team Strength), iMigbo (2 Team Strength, 1 Speed) and Zyla (3 Strength with Charging Banner). iMigbo runs R.I.P. Faraday, so he could disable Anticipation and that Speed Rune guarantees him to go before Zyla.

[wide python]

would it help 🤔

[harsh pagoda]

Sad face

[wide python]

im still waiting 😬

[violet mesa]

Same

😔

Eew tag

[wide python]

Idc its Zizooo he can tag me 😊

[violet mesa]

But i care

[worthy scroll]

L4 PVP fun with Elvira, I know it won't work on L3

Is quicker than my other team to climb pvp

[main current]

I did the same.

[barren arch]

Three open slots coming up. 👍🏻🤞🏻🍀

Have this to. 🌈

This might be going too far 🦄

But everyone loves a Unicorn.

😆

[worthy scroll]

🤞

BTW, I saw that Marcos will be posting info about the next warmaster today on taringa

[lime venture]

Great! 👍 would for mine too

[worthy scroll]

@little berry awesome!

Lol

[worthy scroll]

Water warmaster

[wet sage]

Skill of her

[worthy scroll]

Warmaster Thalassa

No info on skills on taringa yet

[wet sage]

Okay thank you

[barren arch]

That is great news Zizooooo. Lol.

[fickle acorn]

It was because of the luck.

[brittle hemlock]

She has a squid pet. I never wanted my love of Splatoon to interfere with ML but now it is.

[fickle acorn]

Ikr. XD

[brittle hemlock]

I shall proceed to name this warmaster "Woomy." You know why, Alex xD

[fickle acorn]

Great idea! XD

[silk tapir]

haha yes

I’d do the same

but oh no i need heroic orbs fast

[flint tangle]

Ursula who?

[worthy scroll]

I thought the same

[tired juniper]

So water next?

[worthy scroll]

That's what it seems

[ripe vigil]

No the big octopus is metal

[tired juniper]

Oh okay ill start ranking some metal monsters then thanks skittlepox

I love how helpful people are in this discord id be nowhere without it!

[ripe vigil]

Lol, yes its water

[tired juniper]

What!? I was sure it was metal what with that fancy metal armour!

[lime venture]

So much Elvira in the game I'm become impatient 😂wait is so hard

[ripe vigil]

Lmao @tired juniper

[frosty reef]

Water warmaster looks so ugly

[fresh blaze]

Looks like Ursula lol

hope he or she is immun to Freeze and possesion 😛

[tame beacon]

Hey @fresh blaze I don’t understand your bug on Elviras photophobic shield? It’s supposed to last two turns?

[fresh blaze]

Noo 1 round but it lasts 2

Right ?

[tame beacon]

Nope it’s 2 rounds in the description? 😃

[fresh blaze]

😅 huh

kill me lol

deleted it haha

[tame beacon]

Haha no worries, we all make mistakes. Taiga getting possessed after camouflage was a shock to me at first 😂

[ornate oak]

Oh my.

[gusty siren]

lmao

[worthy scroll]

You gotta love Elvira

Video of that battle later today

[tacit mason]

@worthy scroll how can you do that

It's amazing

[brittle hemlock]

@polar valve I don't think Marianne would take too kindly to that ;)

[sand knoll]

@worthy scroll are u helen harper on youtube?

[polar valve]

@brittle hemlock she looks like an octopus and octopus use squirt to get away from danger

I dont know whats in your mind(s)

[worthy scroll]

https://youtu.be/DhoHYIr4fXw

@sand knoll lol, no

@tacit mason there's how

[sand knoll]

Nice

Thanks

[worthy scroll]

I got lucky

[worthy scroll]

Doesn't always work

[mossy folio]

I've seen many elite players posting videos but none of them insult their opponents learn to respect

[mortal bay]

Earn the respect, mine isn’t free

[mossy folio]

To be at that level nothing is free

[fickle acorn]

"You're a disgrace"

[mossy folio]

Respect 🤗🤗

[mortal bay]

Can someone tell me what the title says for them ?

[brittle hemlock]

even then, that's not exactly constructive either

the last time though it said "youre a disgrace"

[mortal bay]

It’s not meant to read that

Click the video and tell me the title please

[brittle hemlock]

Not the best base out there

or... that.

[mortal bay]

That’s what it’s meant to say

But it won’t change in discord

[brittle hemlock]

try editing and reposting the link 🤔

[mortal bay]

That’s what I did the first time

[brittle hemlock]

🤔

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYh0PRWrz5o&feature=youtu.be

[mortal bay]

Hm

[brittle hemlock]

you edited the title again

[mortal bay]

Wat

I changed it 10 mins ago

[brittle hemlock]

the edits posted to discord

[mortal bay]

To what it currently is

[brittle hemlock]

post it agin 🤦

[mortal bay]

I am

See

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYh0PRWrz5o&feature=youtu.be

Ayyy

There we go

[brittle hemlock]

that works :)

[mortal bay]

I just took your link instead of the one from my channel 😂

[brittle hemlock]

i mean i took the previous link you posted

[mortal bay]

Must be my discord or something then

Mobile discord is dodgy

[brittle hemlock]

🤷

[crystal vigil]

free to play player

uses 130 zyla

[mortal bay]

120*

And it’s possible to have a 120 Zyla as a f2p

[crystal vigil]

Yeah, kind of forgot about elementium

[mortal bay]

breeding events

And in the past you could buy vip cells with gems

It added up to about 2000 gems for a 120 Vip

[brittle hemlock]

also the 2016 breeding events where you could you two VIPS to make a duplicate VIP

[crystal vigil]

but to get a VIP before the 2016 breeding events you needed to not be F2P

[brittle hemlock]

true

[pure latch]

Look at you copying my style

That’s not even super ftp

[mortal bay]

It was an easy strat :3

[pure latch]

Without iggy tho, not as much fun 😢

[silk tapir]

excited for thalassa

[ripe vigil]

Me too

[worthy scroll]

I guess she will have Aoe immune to freeze and mega freeze and cast aoe stamina regen at the beginning of the match

[silk tapir]

i love freeze effect so much it will be great to have the water warmaster as my first wm

[ripe vigil]

Enemy starts frozen?

[silk tapir]

that would be op tbh

kinda like elvira tho so maybe viable

[ripe vigil]

Aoe water attuned?

[worthy scroll]

What if she is like tethys mother and she cast aoe elite sea troops

That would be OP

Or maybe not with Elvira around

[ripe vigil]

Back to aoe precision?

[fresh oracle]

She might have reverse stamina

Would be a cool idea

Pair it up with AoE 100% stamina drain.

[lime venture]

Well, 2 free slot not bad

If Thalassa have Aoe stamnai regen or precision she will be great, and Aoe immunity freeze and mega freeze obviously

[wide python]

Wrong channel

[little berry]

Oh snap

I thought I'm in general

Sorry

[wide python]

Better go to bugs

@little berry

[little berry]

Will do thanks

[barren arch]

Gone in seconds 😃

[wide python]

Voltaik or Sarhanh 🤔

[barren arch]

Both. 😉

[ripe vigil]

Dungeon tomorrow?

[wide python]

Maze you mean @ripe vigil?

[misty elm]

Am I the only one who thinks Warmaster Thalassa looks disturbing?

[wide python]

I will take another look

yes maybe another one said it already but she looks like Disneys Ursula and she sort of 😱

[violet mesa]

Send a pic

I.wanna see

[misty elm]

a heavily mutated Ursula 😱

[wide python]

cant only Taringa so not allowed

[violet mesa]

🤔

[wide python]

big word but Fox doesnt want it

[violet mesa]

Ohhhhh

No pics from taringa??

Kinds doodoo :(

[misty elm]

just go to the website and you'll see

[violet mesa]

Effort

[wide python]

go to another server 😜

[misty elm]

so much effort 😄

[ripe vigil]

No I was under the impression we were supposed to always have an active wm dungeon, I didnt see a countdown timer for the next heroic dungeon like normally we get the day before a wm arrives. @wide python

[wide python]

I think that there will be a WM Dungeon after Elvrira my guess is Earth but Im not sure 😉

[ripe vigil]

Great, thank you Marianne. I was a little surprised that there was no countdown. Was a little worried there were still issues getting the dungeons to come back

[wide python]

sorry for the messenger popup

[tame beacon]

Sorry for talking too much 😂

[wide python]

lol

[worthy scroll]

I like how a level 50 Elvira baits faraday and let's my Sammy and barbatos do extra turns without being disturbed

https://youtu.be/jG7yFwDOx9M

So is SP forcing people to not have 2 warmasters of the same kind?

Like you can't keep a level 100 to extract later if you like

[tame beacon]

I believe it says you can choose to swap them, rather than you’re forced too. But you can’t make a second egg anymore. Is there any reason why you’d want to save the cells in egg form 😅

[worthy scroll]

Maybe force is not the right word, so is not allowing us to have more than one now

What of you choose to not get cells for the one duplicate you have now?

Not that I have more than one, I barely have one Elvira

Just curious on how sp wants to proceed

[tame beacon]

I honestly don’t know. Maybe you can ask them to let you keep it when they contact you. At best they’ll say “Sure but you’re risking not being able to rank to 5”. At worst “no you can’t” and you have the cells in vault rather than in an egg 😄

[polar valve]

since no one will be getting any extra cells, once someone ranks up two of the same warmaster, that someone will never be able to hit r5 with any of those two warmasters

I believe they are trying to avoid this issue

[worthy scroll]

People know that, I don't think one person will be ranking the extra one, but it can happen

I think the issue they are tackling is just having 2 of the same, maybe they don't want someone with a 120 barbael on defense and one 100 on atk or something like that

[polar valve]

SP doesnt really have to fix any issue the player might be causing by doing that, but yet they feel the need to warn people

[wide python]

there is a person with 2 Elvira's l 100

[polar valve]

I see what you mean

[wide python]

one on attack and 1 on defense

[polar valve]

that is game killing

[wide python]

well on defens it can be beaten

[polar valve]

yes in high leagues, it isnt that much of a problem

but moves have accuracy

and with a bit of luck

people can still loose

lose*

I wonder why do I not come up with such evil ideas??

[wide python]

also have to think about the future maybe next WM is nearly unbeatable on both also in high leagues

[polar valve]

metal warmaster might be just that

[worthy scroll]

I think that some people are using 2 of her to test how she is on atk and defense, without having to move runes around etc.,but yeah at the end it could impact negatively allowing people to have multiple warmasters of the same kind

@polar valve yeah I'm waiting for the metal one, I need to recover the orbs I used with Elvira, I was saving all for the metal one

[polar valve]

I started buying a few just in case the water one is extravagant

[worthy scroll]

Yeah, the next ones can be awesome at rank 0, if they are I won't have enough to get the metal one ranked lol, well played SP well played

[nocturne crater]

Yes, the two Warmasters issue related to balance. I had one on attack and one on defence, mainly to experiment on both at the same time. But it would allow a 115 and a 120 without even finishing Floor 6, and that would tip a borderline OP monster over the edge. So I accept the rationale.

[worthy scroll]

Makes sense, I want to test mine at 100, but im not sure if a level 50 will bait better or not, maybe at 100 she baits the same, curious about what SP would do if a person says: nah, I want to keep both, will extract later.

[slender lagoon]

Nah just bait with a Lv4

Still works lol

[stoic path]

Is it good idea to add team strength rune for Elvira? Team: elvira, gregorz, valgar the pure (light lion)

[faint beacon]

🤔

[little berry]

So why is having two warmaster's just now an issue

Feels when SP changing the rules as we're going . . .I got 2 because i plan at running 1 at level 4 and 1 at level 50 to 100 apparently that's all you need

[tame beacon]

Because they never designed it to allow you to have 2. And having 2 means you potentially can’t get it to rank 5, which will only cause future upset

[polar valve]

having 2 does allow you to hit r5

you just have to extract the one you kept at level 100

but having one warmaster makes it more unique

[crystal vigil]

but if you for example have a 115 and a 120

then you can't get a r5

[polar valve]

yes

IF

[tame beacon]

Whilst that is true Arc, you can bet someone will extract at 50 or something, wonder why they don’t have enough cells for rank 5 and then kick up a stink. Yes it’s their fault, but easier to avoid it altogether 😃

I also think they meant them to be unique but made a tiny oversight. It happens 😃

[misty elm]

Well I encountered my fist Elvira team in PVP ...... AND I SLAUGHTERED THEM ALL ... MUHAHAHA 😈 😈

[little berry]

A tiny oversight that wasn't noticed until how many were released or just until they realize that they released a overpowered one?

[tame beacon]

No idea. Wouldn't be surprised if it's the former. You can account for a lot of things when developing, but sometimes users will do things you just didn't expect 😄

[misty elm]

Wish me luck!

[tame beacon]

Good luck 😃

[misty elm]

I think I won

Yep, I won

[brittle hemlock]

Kill that Titan. 😄

[misty elm]

Strange, it doesn't show a Team Speed rune on Cloud ...

Yeah, I killed that Old Hag Titan 😄

[tired juniper]

Is it wise to keep duplicate warmasters as long as you dont rank the second past r0?

[polar valve]

no

its also blocked

if not now, soon

[stoic path]

Team strength or team speed on elvira? Other monsters in pvp attack team: gregorz and valgar yhe pure

[polar valve]

cant you change your valgar to something else

[drowsy jackal]

Gregorz.

[stoic path]

Mmm... baba yaga, laomu, voltaik, fatid, krampus, thetis, ingenica, can also rank up metal nemesis to 115

[polar valve]

wow

I would go with ingenica

she helps against monsters with traits and evasions

she can also apply dd to your gregotz

[drowsy jackal]

She would be good against a enemy Elvira.

[polar valve]

against elvira, against gakora, against nishants bg

[stoic path]

But valgar the pure casts +100% damage, 50% accuracy and energy

[drowsy jackal]

So?

[stoic path]

So I can beat everybody with gregorz in one turn...

[polar valve]

ingenica can remove evasions from enemies

[drowsy jackal]

You have Elvira for buffs.

[polar valve]

you will loose against an elvira team

[drowsy jackal]

Lose*

[polar valve]

ah yes

loosing and losing

always miss the o

because of choose and chose

[little berry]

Its blocked to have a 2nd one? This is a bunch of bull I only finished 3rd floor to craft a 2nd 1. It was not in the rules before it was released! And with gemss I just spent on runes and skill set changes thanks to Elvira. I'll be damned if yall make up a rule after I already spend for the overpowered thing!!!

[sand knoll]

I guess it's because of Elvira

The evasion is too great of a trait

[little berry]

They overpowered her now they wanna make changes

[drowsy jackal]

#SaveElvira

[little berry]

conflictedsp

[sand knoll]

@little berry you couldn't craft her a second time?

[little berry]

Yeah I crafted two of her before they made the rule

I plan on running one at level 4 to be a super childish

[sand knoll]

sad

they rly shouldnt tho

[little berry]

They shouldn't have released the all powerful monster and then tried to reverse and make up a rule afterwards about only being able to have 1.

[sand knoll]

😂

who knows they might be doing this to set up the rest of the warmasters that might be better than elvira

imagine thunder warmaster granting extra turn for first turn

thatll be so much op than elvira

[gusty siren]

yep they will only get stronger - im sure most will have area caster whereas first 3 didnt

[sand knoll]

^

[misty elm]

Well, they said ingame that's it's exclusive to her, but who knows ... 🤔

[sand knoll]

Sure the evasion will be exclusive to her

But there might be other op abilities that will come along

They always say last but not least 😉

[misty elm]

Well, I can see the Thunder WM having Area Anticipation ...

I'm pretty sure the Water WM will have Area Freeze Immunity and 35% status immunity, but what else ...

[brittle hemlock]

area anticipation would be OP

[worthy scroll]

Metal one Area Artifact or Area immune to Trait disable

[brittle hemlock]

"area artifact" 🤣

[slow imp]

Magic would have aoe trait disable on the start of the battle

[worthy scroll]

Metal one, AOE Relic disable 😛

[fresh oracle]

Blocked Relics👌

Reactivate Relics🤔

@worthy scroll

[worthy scroll]

Just trying to imagine what will really really brake the game lol

[drowsy jackal]

Enemy Caster: Cursed Countdown for 3 turns. 👌

[ripe vigil]

Already have instakill skills

[brittle hemlock]

what about a relic that applies a random buff under 25% health or stamina?

[nocturne crater]

@stoic path I have been using Valgar on attack for the past 10 seasons and highly recommend keeping him. The 0 CD AoE buff stripper alone makes him excellent vs Elvira, Timerion, Gakora etc. Give him an Energizing Amulet and a Uriel Essence. I run him 3 strength. He melts Dark monsters.

[sand knoll]

Not many people have Uriel's essence

TT

[nocturne crater]

Well then, a Regeneration Essence will do!

[stoic path]

@nocturne crater thank you! I have 3 valgars now and no more vips. Better to extract and rank up or keep for dungeon restricted to vips?

[nocturne crater]

Tough call. If you have no other VIPs I would favour keeping them for premium dungeons. Multiples synergise well (light blocker, buff, kill).

[misty elm]

Luckily I have all VIP's and only 3 of them are unranked (Hiroim, Osur and Hydrok), I was lucky in the past breeding events (not in the recent one, I got nothing and still used up over 200 gems)

[stoic path]

I didn't got anything from 3 last breeding events... seems it was 5% chance earlier and now is 0.5%

I mean not only vip breedings

[little berry]

I though elvira will be game changer but it is actually easy to fight agains her. For example : i Was fighting agains enemy with elvira (100) voltaik ( 130) and charmless (120)
I did nothing just my gamora went first put evasion and then my attackers ixofex and patrion kill them (i hlave lvl 6 runes)

[polar valve]

thats because the enemy went out of their evasions

had the enemy had a buff cleared, you would have los

she is a game changer, but only when attacking

not when defending

[misty elm]

Well

It was easy

[wide python]

@little berry they ask not demand

[misty elm]

Overkill

[polar valve]

titan kill

[misty elm]

That poor LVL 4 Elvira ...

[polar valve]

I got my Elvira to 70

not sure why

might hit 100 tomorrow just because I can

[misty elm]

Still good for baiting High level monsters

Somehow the enemy always attacks my Gortak, because he's lower level

It's hilarious seeing the enemy trying to stun him all the time

[polar valve]

I understand

but since I am trying to get into L4

highly doubt people will go full attack on her without removing her eva

[misty elm]

I always use Space-Time with Timerion, just in case

[polar valve]

yeah

my timmy isnt ranked up

[misty elm]

Well mine in isn't rank 5 either, only rank 3

[polar valve]

mine is r0

[misty elm]

I switched Jasastur for Timerion in my PVP attack team because in L4 there are a lot of Ruby bases

[polar valve]

which is why I try denying with my r2 kihaku first

[misty elm]

Kihaku is good too

[polar valve]

waiting on thalassa info

[misty elm]

She looks disturbing ...

[polar valve]

yeah

a complete opposite to elvira

[misty elm]

She's like a mutant Ursula from the Little Mermaid. A heavily mutated and deformed Ursula.

[polar valve]

oh yes

but hey, appearances dont matter

as long as she has got traits and skills

[misty elm]

AOE Freeze immunity is a must

[polar valve]

megafreeze too

[misty elm]

Yeah, like Gortak's Are Stun immunity, it should give immunity to all Freezing effects

[little berry]

@wide python it just bothers me because the wording made it seem like it was against the rules and I definitely don't take advantage of glitches or anything else that is against the rules.

[cold rover]

O

[wide python]

Sometimes the wording can be interpreted different than it was meant to be they are a Spanish company with that comes some translation issues

[stoic path]

Any news on warmasters pets?

[brittle hemlock]

Nope.

[polar valve]

not expecting them until all warmasters are here...

[brittle hemlock]

Me neither ^

[wet sage]

Do a rank up warmonster get new skill

[sand knoll]

The warmasters will obviously be better than the pets

@wet sage only warmasters and nemesis monsters

[wet sage]

Okay thank you

[hexed harbor]

I haven’t lost any progress in warmaster dungeons so far. If I did, I would demand a refund of orbs.

It’s only fair. And I’m sure SP would do the right thing and fix it up

[wide python]

I know that the solution shouldent be bad for players so im sure its going to be fixed

[elfin stream]

I lost progress 1st Warmaster dungeon, simply contacted support and they checked my claim and fixed it. For Barbael dungeon, I had extra progress showing that I hadn't done, hence didn't have the cells to match the progress. I'm certain when Barbael returns my progress will be where it should be. I've a feeling matching cells/rank a person has with progress in dungeon the reason they spotted the multiple crafting of Warmasters.

[tired juniper]

checks warmaster progress

Yep, turns out im still poor

[dim lava]

@little berry Due to a technical issue some players have had their WarMaster dungeon progress reset but NO cells or orbs were removed. If you have experienced loss of cells or orbs please contact customer support.

[misty elm]

So they need to use their orbs again or what?

[polar valve]

they need to contact support and explain the situation, hopefully someone will give them their orbs or cells

[little berry]

As far as we know, nobody lost any Cells they previously got in the Heroic Dungeon.
Maybe the confusion is due to the fact that with the issue we had granted INCORRECTLY some progress that wasn't really achieved and with the fix/reset people think they really lost this progress.

Example: My correct previous progress was 20% of the 2nd Floor. Then the Dungeon is reactivated again and I see 80% of the 3rd Floor. I didn't spend any Orbs or get any Cells of this progress that incorrectly appeared.
With the fix we reset to the correct previous status (the 20% of 2nd Floor) or slightly behind in some cases.

This without removing any cells or orbs. There is nothing that the player lost excepts some Floor or nodes progress in some cases. But this mean that those one can replay at a cheaper Orbs cost!

Hope this is clear.
Any other weird behaviour different from the one I explained should be reported to the Customer Service.

Sorry for the Wall of text... is a bit messy situation and not easy to explain 😄

[wide python]

@little berry ^

[worthy scroll]

https://youtu.be/kl91NUYXa5c

Half a video is necromancer trying to steal the show.

[haughty dragon]

Damn nice, three lvl 10 strength on barbatos is lit

[snow laurel]

Yall messed up Barbael. Again.....

I was supposed to do the ×4 cell nodes my last 5 attempts but got stuck with ×2 cell nodes I already did.

So now instead of having a warmaster, I have 92 cells and excess nodes.

And I'm now out of orbs thanks to this as well.

[wide python]

@everyone if you dont have enough cells after finishing Barbael Dungeon please make ss like @snow laurel and place them here

[lunar belfry]

<insert ping sock emote here>

oh hey you're here too

[little berry]

:GWpingSock:

[snow laurel]

So much spam....

[little berry]

Yo question

Which warmaster is worth it for f2p

[lunar belfry]

elvira

but she's no fun to use at least for me

[little berry]

Who should i pair elvira with @lunar belfry

[lunar belfry]

2 attackers

or an attacker and a denier

[little berry]

Is the warmaster event gonna go forever or is it just a really big temporary event

[lunar belfry]

once a month i thonk

but the blessing is only when the warmaster comes out

[little berry]

I dont want elvira to come yet since im collecting my orbs really slow lol

[lunar belfry]

she'll show up eventually

in the warmaster dungeon?

[bleak pilot]

I don’t have any heroic orbs ):

[inland trail]

[little berry]

@inland trail so you can repeat over and over without losing orbs

[lunar belfry]

yes

[wide python]

So for many players is this an important issue so I deleted the noncence

Please if have to do this again I think I will do some kicking

[rocky rain]

i have completed 2 floors and i got only 64 cells.. any admin here?

[barren arch]

Sorry it’s the weekend.

Only Moderators are around.

And Keepers of course 😃

[rocky rain]

ohh so contact support?

[reef mural]

My warmaster barbael is gone 😡

[rocky rain]

how?

[drowsy jackal]

Why are you guys even going for Barbael? He's not good on Lvl 100.

He's much better when ranked up.

[indigo panther]

How many orbs required if we do 3 floors

[drowsy jackal]

First of all: It's Orbs not Coins. Second of all: It costs 2300 Orbs.

[kind crane]

Not for 3 floors

[indigo panther]

Then tell me please for 3 floors

[drowsy jackal]

Ugh. I mean it costs 2300 to complete Floor 3.

For 3 Floors, it's 6600 Orbs i think.

[indigo panther]

I mean the total

[kind crane]

2300 for the first 2 floors

2400 for third floor

[indigo panther]

Wow 6600? It's huge amount

[kind crane]

4700 for all