we can't test her since she's not out
#monster-discussion
lunar belfry
misty elm
I'm pretty sure ArmorGaming will make a video about her, so let's wait 😃
And he has a Faraday, so we'll see what happens.
worthy scroll
we will see as soon as she is ready , info on taringa is too fresh still
mortal bay
Mega daze = -75% accuracy and 75% damage reduction
lunar belfry
wow
lunar belfry
or poison/bleeding 🤔
misty elm
I think yes, it should stack.
misty elm
Blind and Total Blind too
mortal bay
daze and damage reduction stack
crystal vigil
"blind and total blind too" well, that isn't really relevant since total blind already removes all of the accuracy, so blind does literally nothing
misty elm
But they do stack anyway, it shows -150% accuracy 😄
crystal vigil
it showed -150% accuracy before they fixed the visual bug
now it shows -100% as intended
misty elm
Oh, okay
crystal vigil
just like it used to show -50% for damage reduction and daze when it was actually -43.75%
worthy scroll
they should stack and if it is 150% that should count cause it affects the calculation if you give that monsters precision
crystal vigil
no it doesn't
worthy scroll
but I haven't looked into that
crystal vigil
total blind+precision=you always miss
lunar belfry
:GWvertiPeepoSalute:
misty elm
Well, the devs said Blind and Precision should cancel each other out, but recently it showed -25% accuracy for me 🤔
drowsy jackal
Same.
crystal vigil
"the devs said Blind and Precision should cancel each other out" when? Considering it was always -25% accuracy and recently they even made it show -25% accuracy, I don't see any possible plans to make them cancel out 🤷
lunar belfry
🤔
misty elm
Hmmm ... 🤔
Then it could be +25% accuracy too, if Precision is applied first.
50-25= 25 and -50+25=-25
But this is not the topic to discuss this 😄
crystal vigil
no
blind=0.5 of original accuracy
precision=1.5 of original accuracy
0.5*1.5=0.75
0.75=-25%
and order in multiplying doesn't matter so nothing to debate
🤔
mortal bay
Precision shouldn't cancel out with blind if the effects are multiplicative
misty elm
I just asked about it a long time ago on the forum and someone said they should cancel each other out.
mortal bay
Times change and the forum member might not understand it anyway
misty elm
Maybe
wide python
No they dont cancel each other out go make the calculation you see it wont
Sorry I made it Dutch 😬
polar valve
elvira is a badass
her own trait aint that good but she can always go first and cast anticipation on allies
misty elm
I want that cat as a separate monster. He would have an effect which would make an enemy not attacking him, because he's so cute 😀 Also baby Elvira is very cute too 😃
misty elm
I can't get her, because I'm out of orbs. 😞
worthy scroll
we need to wait to see the final product, and even if it is final it can be balanced later
harsh pagoda
buffs her
polar valve
nerfs her...
misty elm
pets her ......... cat
drowsy jackal
Yup.
Imagine Elvira with Faraday, double Anticipation.
I think that will grant Faraday 2 next turns when facing VoltaiK,Charmless,Zyla...etc.
polar valve
nah
they wont stack
just like two double damages dont stack
gortak, elvira and necromancer will make the best team ever
little berry
Light warmaster, warthack, Timerion will ok to😂
crystal vigil
lunar belfry
pogchamp
polar valve
hah. You are very lucky there Dori...
wide python
cute
ornate oak
Nice, keep him tiny and* ferocious!
polar valve
can anyone by any chance remove his helmet. I fear Gortak has a beard but he has no head hair
lunar belfry
oof
polar valve
why else would he be carrying that helmet constantly?
barren arch
Especially in this hot weather. 😁
polar valve
I suppose Barbael has been mocking his bald head
so now he has a helmet so the others do not know about it
worthy scroll
lunar belfry
that's still hella op
tame beacon
People need to accept more that Taringa is not 100% accurate. They change stuff all the time, or the information comes across slightly differently than it’s meant
Area evasion though... damn
Could do some serious setting up with that
fresh oracle
Ranking current warmasters: lvl 100
- Gortak
- Barbael
- Necromancer
mortal bay
At level 100 that’s right
fresh oracle
At lvl 130
- Gortak
- Necromancer
- Barbael
gusty siren
Pretty much just put 3 red attacker next to her
Wonder if trait disable will remove the evasion
Actually being that it's 'status' caster it's probably a positive status effect
Just start off with a clear move to clear positive
Very common in light
fresh oracle
Or the evasion works like an effect. Though what happens when you trait disable a Barbael?
Does he lose the damage boost?
frosty reef
Yes but your denier will lose the turn to deny
gusty siren
True
tame beacon
Get your Ingenicas out shut down them evasions
gusty siren
Baba yaga nice clear positive aoe blind
I think it will be a casted positive sonnor
Not a trait
Barbeal is part of his trait
This will be positive effect at start of battle
fresh oracle
Isn't the damage boost from Barbael's trait not a positive effect?
tame beacon
Haha yeh the caster seems to say so Tek. To be honest at my tier war masters aren’t a common thing so... I’ll worry about that if I ever get good
It doesn’t give them a positive trait green box @fresh oracle it’s just a hidden boost
fresh oracle
And does that damage boost wear off?
gusty siren
No gamechanger it's displayed as a trait..it lasts all battle
tame beacon
Whereas we suspect the evasion will be casted onto allies, and so can be removed
gusty siren
Yep
frosty reef
Its only for one turn
mortal bay
Ingenica can’t remove evasion btw
gusty siren
I would hope it's only one turn rimi! Lol
fresh oracle
Eh. It's really good. I wish they gave her a 2 turn evasion as a skill. Maybe that's op
frosty reef
@fresh oracle thats too much
tame beacon
Was more thinking trait disable if it was bundled into the trait like Barbael @mortal bay 😃
mortal bay
It’s not a trait
frosty reef
For 2 turns everyone can destroys enemy
mortal bay
It’s a normal status effect
tame beacon
No I know but I was saying if...
gusty siren
Pretty sure I removed evasion with ingenica
frosty reef
Plasma gun
tame beacon
I wasn’t serious, I have no idea what I’m doing to beat anything
mortal bay
Test it more than once, might be a bug
fresh oracle
What are her skills anyway? On Taringa
frosty reef
Warmaster aura is too good
lunar belfry
Ingenica can remove evasion
gusty siren
My favorite trait removes it perfectly
lunar belfry
she won't disable the trait tho
frosty reef
Well SP has to fix it than
fresh oracle
Team heal 35% a damage boost, precision, and removes negative status effects in one skill sounds like it's almost op. Almost
gusty siren
That's same as llum
fresh oracle
But what is a mega daze?
tame beacon
It’s not mega daze
lunar belfry
oof
frosty reef
Im pretty sure is megastun
tame beacon
I now believe it’s mega stun. I stuffed up
sacred roost
very important
tame beacon
Got my Spanish linguistics mixed up, as the game has two versions of spanish
lunar belfry
oh
frosty reef
Yes but helen said me that is megadaze
tame beacon
Helen got it from me lol
fresh oracle
Someone translated as mega daze. That could be a thing though
frosty reef
So i dont know
tame beacon
And again, that someone who translated was also me
gusty siren
Battlefield speech is double damage + precision aoe
lunar belfry
:GWcmeisterPeepoShrug:
gusty siren
Sorry just doesn't have heal
frosty reef
@tame beaconthere is spanish language in spain and spanish in Mexico
sacred roost
mega knockout
tame beacon
Yup I know and also in Argentina. The game splits Spain spanish and America’s Spanish. Different words for mega stun
gusty siren
Daze already lasts more than one turn
I think it's mega stun
What would mega daze do
Maybe less accuracy?
tame beacon
I’m pretty sure it’s mega stun. If its mega daze then I’m also right. Win win
lunar belfry
probably
frosty reef
I told at begging that was megastun but noone believed
gusty siren
Maybe it's like daze and blind combined
fresh oracle
It's a blind and major damage reduction in one
frosty reef
But what is 50% damage protection
frosty reef
Tek delete it in 1 sec
sacred roost
no
gusty siren
He's my friend I can say that lol
frosty reef
😂😂
gusty siren
Makes sense tho
fresh oracle
That looks a bit op. You are gonna miss probably and hit like a Hayman if you land the attack
frosty reef
Well if megadaze is new than she should has at one of her regular skills
Just like brontes or cryotan
mortal bay
0.o
fresh oracle
Then again. All that we are talking isn't official. But the Area evasion sounds legit.
tame beacon
Precisely. So my dodgy translation can get passed off as dodgy Taringa news 😄
sacred roost
😄
little berry
Any attack leaks?
polar valve
elvira will cast one turn evasion instead
confirmed by carlos! Official monster legends employee
lunar belfry
you're a tiny bit late
little berry
Woah
Thats a trait and a half
Has to be the best in the game
Evasion as if gakora evasion or timmy evasion?
polar valve
evasion as in evasion
we should wait for official version
but I think it will be like Gakora's
little berry
She would be too op if bit
Not*
Yea but still
Denyers use their skill 1st turn
You can eventually run a team full of attackers and her
polar valve
yes you could
little berry
Oh i get it
Caster may mean
She casts evasion only when she gets a turn
Afterall, her aoe trait is immune to blind
gusty siren
no she casts it at start of battle like Carlos said
1 turn evasion status effect at start of battle for all allies
lunar belfry
little berry
🤔
drowsy jackal
Area Evasion is still amazing.
Area Anticipation is just insane, even SP knew it was OP.
little berry
I would argue Area Evasion is better...
fickle acorn
^
fresh oracle
Does she have anticipation herself?
lunar belfry
if taringa is correct then no she doesn't
fresh oracle
Some of her skills are ok. But some look amazing!
She can deal very heavy light damage. Apply sunburn, and bleed to target. And gain evasion!
And she apparently has 2 skills that give immunity to all elements except light which is useful
Hopefully her speed is really good
harsh dock
Immunity to all elements, not just reduced damage intake?
tame beacon
Yeh it’s immunity to all damage but light
harsh dock
That's op.
drowsy jackal
Valgar The Pure can do the same thing.
wide python
@polar valve not an just an employee but a monster designer and hackster fan 😉
little berry
Keep in mind status effects and control effect land under light salvation and “light blocker” ie “takes no damage from all elements but light
Relics can bypass the effect of the “takes no damage except light” sword OP 😂
I won ... too
👀
Successful test 😊
vital ember
haughty dragon
Why speed on valgar? 🤔
fickle acorn
^
little berry
Valgar is good with 3 speed, I use him often like that too. This new Warmaster may not be as good as we think... Many light monsters have the same light blocker (Valgar and Queen Luthien) Valgar can remove the positive effects to all targets, Maybe this light Warmaster will have skills with big cooldown... wait and see
Sure but she is undenyable for 1st turn
(By regularly used denyers)
Eventually you can strength rune your whole pvp team with her in it and rip apart everyone
Will not be dangerous if all cooldown are activated
unreal flume
evasion dodged cooldowns activated now tho
best way is bringing gakora, nbg or immunity granting monsters imo
little berry
Oh right i see yesterday
fresh oracle
Do you think she is better than the other warmasters?
unreal flume
hard to say, better than necro IMO
and that evasion at beggining is making her beast
she has 50% heal with removing neg effects, precision and dmg increase
misty elm
Does that Evasion start at the battle, or when she starts her first turn?
crystal vigil
start of the battle
little berry
Necromancer does not have enough life, it is very easy to kill him, and he is not really dangerous at the beginning of the fight
Gortak is nice, I like him
misty elm
Well, Necro is situational (the resurrection skills), while Gortak and Barbael are not
little berry
Yeah, why I said he’s not dangerous at the beginning of the fight, but better to kill him quickly
little berry
What skills did you guys pick for necromancer? Was also wondering if his possession can miss on hardened/bullwark monsters 😓
misty elm
Mine is 100, and I picked the two Lifesteal skills (70 and 55 dmg), the remove negative effects+extra turn skill and the resurrect enemy with double dmg skill (with death countdown). Rainbow build (all lvl 7 runes).
misty elm
Well, I saw the skills of Elvira on Taringa and I hope it's not right. Insane dmg (so most likely 80) AOE with Mega Stun and positive effects removal.
What the
polar valve
ultimate skill?
polar valve
well she is a damn warmaster
she mastered the art of war
she trained for years
an op skill but that may be changed
taringa info isnt official
misty elm
Yeah, I know that.
Interestingly, according to her Lore, she trained Barbael, but she has no Total Bind or Trait Disabling skills.
polar valve
I doubt she used blind on that guy...
wide python
@misty elm Rule no 3 please dont make a cop out of me
misty elm
Okay, okay
haughty dragon
I dont see how this WM isnt game breaking..
Can someone explain to me how its not game breaking to put up an evasion skill before the battle even starts?
polar valve
that will ensure the survival of team
enemy team can also cast evasion on themselves and make this evasion seem dull
haughty dragon
Not only survival, but ALL control effects including cd
polar valve
I do not think you can evade Timerions cooldown skill
haughty dragon
Yeah but if you are running two other slow 130 with full levle x strength runes you won’t go before the enemy, so the evasion will last a long time especially if the enemy has ts
Yes evasion blocks cd activated
fickle acorn
^
haughty dragon
I’m not even gonna bother getting this WM bc sp will b forced to nerf
haughty dragon
Hes but if u purge buffs, thats the only thing u can do... thats ur speedster
^yes
So ur speed monster only takes away evasion, but now they are still uncontrolled and can still attack
U would have to have one monster to take away positive affects, and one to control, so either both will be kinda fast or neither of them will be fast, either way it’s impossible to beat
polar valve
what when there is necromancer on there?
haughty dragon
Huh? No
polar valve
Gortak+Necromancer+Elvira
haughty dragon
Im saying you would need 2 speed rune carriers- one to debuff and one to control enemy
And that means u have no attacker or no support that carries ts
No matter what u just cant win
Unless u have an Elvira of ur own
Im really surprised sp green lit this trait- its ridiculous
polar valve
I am saying if enemy has that line up
little berry
There are ways around it...
haughty dragon
Please explain bc im really lost
sage magnet
they have to remove positive affects or have evasion of there own and be evenslower, theWM is OP
haughty dragon
^
little berry
The way it was explained to me, is just survive through the Evasion. I think this is easier for high tiers as they have more general access to Tenacity Shield and other good shielding/Healing relics, but it’s not impossible if you don’t have said relics.
sage magnet
and even worse, bring 100s vs 130 with full x str runes to make sure you are slower
little berry
Gakora is a great way around Elvira, fight fire with fire.
Just make sure your attacker and ts holder go after theirs.
polar valve
technically they both light...
haughty dragon
Hahah
little berry
Yeah
haughty dragon
So just buckle down and hope tenacity saves u? Lmao
little berry
Oof
haughty dragon
Life runes just became a lot more useful
worthy scroll
Now on light light fire wars, their gakora goes first, then my gakora goes, then my Rocigon cleans effects
Then the attackers
And it's been working so far going second
sage magnet
the fact we have to discuss a possible way of surviging 1 turn or you lose means tne WM is broken
haughty dragon
Thank u
This trait is ridiculous, ignoring the amazing skills she has too
I would have preferred area anticipation over this bs lmao
sage magnet
if it gets released with current trait SP will nerf within a week, thats the point
worthy scroll
Since Rocigon goes second he can actually let gakora do evasion again
little berry
Sammy should be another good way around her, he’s got the tenacity and Pestilence is great for reducing the enemy attacker’s damage output. Once you survive the initial onslaught, a monster like Timerion could be a great ts holder to finally get in and deny the enemy team.
haughty dragon
I agree benu
worthy scroll
Need to find ways to make going second work
little berry
Overall I agree her trait is absolutely absurd though, and in my opinion should be tweaked.
sage magnet
again, discussing how to survive 1 turn or lose shows how BROKEN it is
haughty dragon
Lmaooo
Yeah sammy might be good, but thats only if ur tenacity is leveled up and u have enough life to get through the turn... pretty wishy washy if u ask me
Most people are just gonna counter with their own elviria
The people that have leveled up tenacity and 130 sammy are the same ppl that are gonna have elvira at 130...
Thats why i’m saying its game breaking. Pretty much if u don’t have one you will not be competitive in pvp past 4k.. 😞
@little berry what do u think about this?
little berry
What am I reading
haughty dragon
Do u think the new WM is broken?
little berry
yes , I love the trait. The trait is the best part of all warmasters . The actual skill set is not over powered .
Start of battle evasion , OP
sage magnet
AKA broken
little berry
perhaps ,
haughty dragon
Well how tf do u break through evasion on first turn without ruining ur speed rune holder?
little berry
since evasion got a buff recently . And now stamina devours and CDA won’t work underneath it
It’s really good .
little berry
also trait disable behaviors are different and I am not sure if trait disable lands on evasion
haughty dragon
💔 oh god pls no
little berry
After the first turn ( what do you do then ) 😂
sage magnet
you win first turn
little berry
you can set up your own evasion
Atum ^
Tenacity ,
possibility’s are endless for withstanding an Attack
but it lasts 1 turn
haughty dragon
But if u have some slow 130 monster with all x runes.. like say flamarion he will keep the evasion for a long time and ur monsters will have evasion wear off by the time he goes
With all x strength runes that is
You could even put some other support that can buff flamarion with 2x damage and accuracy so he never misses
I just see so many ways to win in pvp with this stupid WM
The only true counter is elviria herself
AKA broken
mortal bay
Flamerion won't receive the evasion from Elvira due to his trait @haughty dragon
haughty dragon
Oh shit u rite
mortal bay
The evasion Elvira grants her allies is a status effect
haughty dragon
U sure?
haughty dragon
Okk
haughty dragon
Hmm okay
mortal bay
I expect to see a lot of 3 ts bases to counter Elvira
A lot of people will have or be going for Ingenica
haughty dragon
Oh yes 100%
mortal bay
I expect 3ts bases with a deny monster and a faster monster that can remove pos effects
haughty dragon
But ruby said trait disable wont work on her
haughty dragon
What skill? Why not just use demise then
mortal bay
-Battle starts-Elviras team is granted evasion-Ingenica uses my favourite trait and removes evasion from elviras team-
Sammy with pain scourge is going to great as well
haughty dragon
But it doesnt disable trait
mortal bay
What trait needs to be disabled ?
haughty dragon
Okay im just trying to understand
haughty dragon
Yeah but other traits.. aka necromancer or other
Elviria’s teammates wont have their trait disabled right? Just evasion gone
mortal bay
Correct
fresh oracle
Guessing she will be released after the Olympus Race or the current maze
frosty reef
30 August i think
haughty dragon
Oh sorry, can i say crap instead?
I didn’t know that was an egregious word.. won’t happen again! 😅
drowsy jackal
Disapointed.
polar valve
question: do you think it is possible to get Elvira(100 cells) with a 110 Gakora, 110 Bella Baal and a 105 Bella Baal with runes from 5-7?
little berry
Imo Necromancers trait is still better
polar valve
that I will likely get from arena/race
yes Argent, true
do you get a reward from finishing floor 2?
like a lvl 10 rune?
crystal vigil
yes
polar valve
cool
I will get a "free" level 10 rune
it isnt excactly free as I spent gems on some orbs
but still a very good deal
little berry
Perhaps sp will make a warmaster that will deny extra-turns 🤣
Necromancer denies possession, that will alter seriously all dark wars so it makes sense to deny extra-turns next 🤔 for thunder version.
And retire Voltaik and Zyla.
fresh oracle
Doesn't Anticipation do that?
sand knoll
^
stoic path
So Elvira is the warmaster worth to spend all orbs?
wide python
Im going too
gusty siren
Havent seen her stats yet @stoic path so wouldnt jump quite yet
Marianne just being a fan girl hehe
wide python
Yeah lol im excited 😂
brittle hemlock
Necro denies extra Turner's easy.
polar valve
nooo
wide python
Idc what anyone thinks 😝
ripe vigil
Are orb sales gone?
lunar belfry
probably not
wide python
no be back when dungeons are back
violet mesa
You care what I think ;)
wide python
always
little berry
When is Barbael dungeon back on?
sand knoll
Probably next week
little berry
😃
jade sky
I Have the orbs to get the rest of my barbael cells
so excited to pair him up with charmless
glass marsh
Hello
polar valve
Imma get Elvira and kick some butt with her
drowsy jackal
Same, but i don't have enough Orbs. 😢
polar valve
buy em with gems during sale
drowsy jackal
I'm poor. 😢
polar valve
42 gems for 110 orbs
misty elm
Right now I have 342 orbs ...
polar valve
I have 2400
silk tapir
Currently wondering when the water warmaster will come out
Almost done collecting the necessary orbs
slim mango
silk tapir
nature got the worst vip but one of the craziest nemesis
I have no idea what they’ll do for the warmaster
silk tapir
I use him on defense
violet mesa
Nha he doo doo
wide python
diverse some say skip some like, me like 😉
mortal bay
What rumours are you referring to
wide python
what are your thoughts my queen 😜
mortal bay
As it stands, taking her to 130 as quick as I can 😂
lunar belfry
use her at level 4 in pvp
mortal bay
Assuming they don’t tinker with her trait
They could have made the evasion part of her trait balanced but I guess they didn’t think that far into it
wide python
they are here you know 🕵
mortal bay
Unless it’s a marketing ploy
Hence why I’m not saying how they could make it balanced, let them figure it out 😉
wide python
lol
silk tapir
What was her trait? I didnt pick up on it
lunar belfry
immunity to blindness to all your team
and gives evasion to all your team on the start of the battle
she's tough as well i believe
mortal bay
Yup
wide python
worthy scroll
She'll be awesome even below 100
I'm guessing that if she is below 100 on pvp all enemy monster will target her first
And since she has evasion already she won't be touched
And if she is the slowest she'll survive for a long time, maybe
mortal bay
People have said about running a level 4 Elvira 😂
wide python
idc love the design 😂
worthy scroll
No need to go first anymore, no need for deny anymore
mortal bay
Character model is perfect
indigo bronze
can anyone just help me with the war masters, If i go through a dungeon and run out of orbs and the dungeon then ends do i lose my progression? or does it remember it next tiem round?
worthy scroll
Yeah the design is awesome
mortal bay
You keep progression
worthy scroll
No, you don't lose it
wide python
no progress stays and in 24h there always is a wm dungeon
worthy scroll
I can't get her ranked anyway, if I go for her would be at 100
indigo bronze
ok cool, i have like 600 orbs so didnt knwo to wait for more to do the dungeon or just start now and then catch up
worthy scroll
No rush on getting her tho
mortal bay
Found out a couple days ago that I have Barbael, never knew 😂
worthy scroll
That s the thing with the first two yes
But necro and Elvira are very good at 100, necro maybe at 105
wide python
100 it will be
mortal bay
Necro would die too quickly
worthy scroll
I'm just saving for the metal one
mortal bay
Probably gotta get 1 shot by the enemy deny monster 😂
wide python
magic?
wide python
i wonder about that one
worthy scroll
Thunder maybe aoe shock
worthy scroll
So no more extra turn shinanigans
wide python
i have that already 😜
mortal bay
I doubt any of them will have a trait that applies something to the enemy
worthy scroll
I only have 50 cells of talany, want her badly
wide python
but you cant ask for her cells
worthy scroll
Yeah, need to wait for the next time she is a prize
wide python
i wondr why
mortal bay
She’s unworthy to not be able to trade her cells
wide python
and i wonder about the pets
worthy scroll
Aoe anticipation isn't that good compared to evasion I think
Yeah the pets are a mistery
mortal bay
I’d rather aoe anticipation
Instead of status caster evasion
They didn’t give Elvira aoe anticipation because Necro was only just released, it would make him almost worthless
worthy scroll
Status caster anticipation would be bad, maybe anticipation trait aoe is better yes
I see your point
But aoe immune to possession is still awesome
mortal bay
I feel like status caster evasion is the only form of it that could be at all considered usable
worthy scroll
I wonder about the metal one
Status caster Artifact aoe?
I want aoe immune to trait disable lol
Hear me devs!
timid mesa
imagine the magic warmaster having a skill that casts 4 control efects on all enemies
lunar belfry
ｂａｌａｎｃｅｄ
trail yarrow
Very Balanced
crystal vigil
Without the a between l and n
lunar belfry
shush
silk tapir
I’m guessing water will be some sort of “immune to freeze and mega freeze”
I sure hope not that’s too normal
lunar belfry
maybe energy regen 🤔
silk tapir
Hmm
Yeah that was another thought
Add yet another thetys counter
I get the feeling they just suddenly realized Voltaik, Thetys and Timerion were OP all at once and started giving their arms and legs to cut them down to size
lunar belfry
tbh thetys and voltaik are the monsters i hate the most lol
silk tapir
Since we got Relics like charging armor, trait disablers, and anticipators at the same time
I hate Voltaik too and especially Zyla
But I use Thetys so I dont complain about her, especially considering around 5 different relics counter her now in addition to Hydratila
crystal vigil
actually 6
energy mask
charging armor
energizing amulet
energizer staff
cane of the atlantis
charging banner
the first 3 work for the wearer, the second 3 work for the entire team
silk tapir
yeah
stoic path
I can't use only elementals for warmsters or both with elementiums?
wide python
please explain
wide python
should be 60
reef mural
Okay
daring sorrel
What about me @wide python ? I should have 157 Barbael cells, but I only have 76
I’ve completed the 4th floor and node 1 of floor 5, but can’t rank my Barbael to rank 2
merry basin
We are looking into it guys! I will get back to you as soon as i know smth
twilit grail
Am not getting rankup
daring sorrel
Sounds good! Thanks for replying
faint beacon
:GWumidahKKE:
wide python
@twilit grail Fox just told that they are working on it send a ticket to support please
twilit grail
Fox is not from support ?
wide python
@daring sorrel Same goes for you send a ticket to support
no Fox is community manager
daring sorrel
Oh I did! It’s just that you guys respond 100 times faster than them and are a bit more polite
daring sorrel
Plus, it’s nice to see I’m not alone with my problems. And I sent a ticket in immediately. I just also came here afterwards to share my problem.
polar valve
I hope they fix this when Elvira comes...
reef mural
@merry basin i need to say something
reef mural
Okay
I wanted to say the fox could increase the firelequin power to 3343 and skill especial 60% all enemies
Firelequin has to be used more
wide python
she isnt a dev so it has no use asking her that
keep it in mind and when ideas reopens then put it there
elfin stream
Same problem here with wrong progression showing on dungeon. Have sent ticket, just sharing here.
Seems I'm not the only one
wide python
is good as long as you send a ticket it good I think nobody got the right ammount
reef mural
And that I already sent 8 times support sp to increase power firelequin
wide python
@reef mural 2 things this is WM channel and I dont think support is for upgrading a monster
reef mural
Okay marianne
wide python
Wilco so close yet so far away
wide python
lol
little berry
@wide python I am crafting him now with cells from the third floor 😉 So I am good, but I like to get the 2 missing cells to avoid ranking issues later.
wide python
hope you have taken ss and send a ticket?
little berry
yes and yes 😉
So I just wait
Its just 2 cells, but when you are at the end of a floor, it makes the difference between ranking or not
merry basin
Hi guys, do not worry we will return the proper amount of cells. We just first need to find where is the problem. Please, be patient since it might take some time
void igloo
getting difficult
merry basin
Guys, is this the same progress where you left off last time?
I mean have you started at the same node where you ended a month ago?
royal sundial
I am not sure
formal scarab
@everyone orbs on sale
wide python
you cant ping here
faint beacon
:GWliliumFacepalmSeola:
violet mesa
😂
merry basin
We will be closing the dungeon until further notice. We first need to fix this.
Looks like the nodes were automatically completed for some players. They were not rewarded the cells since they didnt fight those nodes.
violet mesa
That explains it
elfin stream
Yes, progress on dungeons is incorrect not cell numbers.
smoky quail
👍
smoky quail
thanks
harsh granite
okay until when
brittle hemlock
@harsh granite nobody knows
worthy scroll
Until is fixed 😂
median thicket
Give us Barbael 5 stars and issue is fixed 😂 😅
No need to feed him. I will do it lol
haughty dragon
Barbael isnt even good why are u guys goin through the dungeon wasting orbs lmao
little berry
He’s pretty good imo
jade sky
@haughty dragon gortak is top at lvl 100 out of all warmasters, i dont see the hype at necromancer
Anticipation barely does him any good
He doesnt have the damage to follow up
haughty dragon
If it does then the game will break, so i’m guessing no
jade sky
Her aoe evasion will cancel all kinds of deny
Stam devour, CC Activated
Will change the game profoundly imo
haughty dragon
Samael just got even more useable
wide python
polar valve
the only evasion that can be applied to artifacts is space-time
mortal bay
Space time isn't evasion
gusty siren
🤓
fickle acorn
polar valve
space time is evasion because your time evades!
fickle acorn
Doesn't matter.
mortal bay
Synonyms aren’t always parallel
fickle acorn
fair flame
@jade sky Submit a ticket to support, thats a bug
You should get 100 cells for the first 2 floors
brittle hemlock
That's why barbael dungeon got shut though
worthy scroll
So.... Elvira's aoe blind immunity... Burotgor is gonna give himself triple damage for 2 turns and an extra turn
Sammy goes first, uses samael warrior, gives him precision and damage increase for 2 turns, then burotgor does blood thirsty then bestial charge then pure rage or bestial hits
Ouch
lunar belfry
an actual reason to run bloodthirsty 🤔
worthy scroll
And just by being there on the field, doesn't even need to do anything lol
lunar belfry
i have 1163 orbs atm hoping i will have enough to get her when she shows up
worthy scroll
The offers started to pop out yesterday again
Today I haven't seen any
And burotgor is on an offer just now lol
lunar belfry
i have him at 110
lunar belfry
need to change one of his skills to bloodthirsty tho
worthy scroll
Yeah I don't run that, would need to change
worthy scroll
I think 3 team speed
You still want to support your main denier
In this case with Sammy you want him to go as soon as you can
mortal bay
You don’t run bloodthirsty ?
crystal vigil
yeah, it's unreliable for offense
it's a good move on defense though
because you usually win more attacks than defenses
mortal bay
You only need 3 attacking moves on Buro
polar valve
synonyms are synonyms
mortal bay
Bestial hits, beastial charge, regen/healing fur, bloodthirsty
worthy scroll
I don't like to run bloddthirsty either that blind is not good, but now with Elvira it can be amazing
wide python
I have bloodthirsty you be amazed how many times it hits
worthy scroll
Really, I would have to give it a try
tame beacon
Yeh it feels like it hits more often than not. And its helped by bestial whirlwind having 200 accuracy, so if you get your special you can use bloodthirsty and then bestial whirlwind, knowing it’ll hit with triple damage
worthy scroll
With Elvira now I think Burotgor is going to be better than before, I hope nor he or Elvira gets "Balanced"
fresh oracle
Barbatos 3 strength sounds better
brittle hemlock
@lunar belfry 2300 for base WM
lunar belfry
yeah i know thanks
worthy scroll
barbatos is another combo that can be used, blood covenant is double damage instead of burotgor's triple, both 2 turns, Hellfire on the other hand is special aoe with burn
so yeah, I see that one doing a lot of damage aswell
is Elvira bringing the turn transfer meta back?
brittle hemlock
I wouldn't say that, I'd say she's reducing the emphasis on speed runes
with the evasion
worthy scroll
That definetly
brittle hemlock
the evasion gives chance for monsters to use their best moves so you can win with full stamina, health etc
slow imp
Full stamina?
little berry
😅😂
ornate oak
Will evasion prevent Bloodthirsty?
polar valve
no
fickle acorn
Evasion could prevent the Blind but not the Triple Damage.
brittle hemlock
^
mortal bay
Evasion does prevent blind, even self inflicted blind
mortal bay
Evasion also prevents allies from applying 'hater', for example; Ingenica can't apply artifact hater to an ally with evasion
dusk rune
Bloodthirsty + Elvira = big damage
atomic crow
👍
worthy scroll
If they don't get "balanced" later
I can see the "in order to bring balance to the game we have decided that self inflicted status cannot be prevented by trait provided by the warmasters or other monsters" burotgor's self inflicted blind and Quixote's self possession cannot be prevented by elvira's immune to blind and necromancer's immune to possession respectively" message in some months,i hope it doesn't happen like this.
lunar belfry
so burogtor will stay the same rip
now i don't have to change one of my moves to bloodthirsty lul
worthy scroll
Lol
I hope it doesn't happen, but I can see it happening, won't be surprised if it does.
crystal vigil
is if quixote was OP with necromancer in the first place
worthy scroll
Yeah I don't think it is, but is just another example, triple damage for 2 turns and he has a high special aoe
lunar belfry
but that way you need ingenica with 3 speed don't you 🤔
and then another denier with 3 speed 🤔
you're gonna need an Elvira on your side as well right
or their denier will go 1st because your opponent has more team speed
brittle hemlock
no
because Elvira applies evasion before the first turn starts
so ingenica couldnt remove it before it gets applied
youll want a remove positive effects like Sweeperion or something
lunar belfry
umm what
polar valve
I do not understand minimido either
lunar belfry
ingenica removes it then your denier denies your enemies 🤔
brittle hemlock
Is My Favourite Trait a positive effect removal?
lunar belfry
yus
lunar belfry
and she has an insane base speed so she's gonna go before your denier and set it up for the denier
brittle hemlock
3553 is pretty sweet
lunar belfry
but your opponents will have more team speed
brittle hemlock
faster than shallinar, whew
lunar belfry
so they're gonna go before you
so you need an elvira on your own team or you're done
errant cipher
Anyone know the exact cost to clear the first 2 dungeons??
trail yarrow
2.3k Orbs.
haughty dragon
Is elvira gonna have an immune to blind? I dont think so
I thought it was just area evasion
tame beacon
As far as we’ve seen @haughty dragon it’s 35% less accuracy on status effect, blind immune to all allies, and then the area evasion
haughty dragon
Jesus
fresh oracle
She can easily take on all the other warmasters
lime venture
Elvira apply evasion at start of the battle, an ability that remove positive effects should take off the evasion , problem is which denier can remove positive effects and stop enemies at same time? I think no one...
lunar belfry
yep
worthy scroll
When I face a faster gakora on wars I manage by applying evasion second and, by the time I go the other team doesn't have evasion any more
lunar belfry
so you need evasion on your team
worthy scroll
I think her, gakora, nishants bg will be used a lot more
Yup
Well, is more easy when you know that both will be using an evasion monster I give you that
fresh oracle
So the strategy is to evade many waves of attacks while dealing your fair amount of damage back at them
brittle hemlock
Scourge*
worthy scroll
Here's a forum conversation about evasion and counters
I'll add Elvira when she is released
lunar belfry
"Xiron Magic Good Legions/Exclusive/Spirits Total Exhaustion Single"
Total Exhaustion can go through evasion?
drowsy jackal
🤔
brittle hemlock
nah, evasion blocks stamina drain
lunar belfry
"Ingenica Fire Mechanical/Exclusive/Female Plasma Gun Single"
you forgot about "my favoritoe trait" AoE positive effects removal
worthy scroll
Actually not, total exhaustion doesn't do that anymore, I'll fix it and add ingenica
lunar belfry
great and shannara's BG skill hits one enemy and removes evasion from all of them so it's kinda like an AoE
fresh oracle
Keithor can do that too
worthy scroll
Oh thanks, will add Keithor to the list
open grove
Who is this new Elvira?
lunar belfry
light warmaster
wide python
I can ping never mind
wide python
and in wrong server 😂
worthy scroll
We waited all day for the continuation 😂
elfin oriole
Do we know when the barbael dungeon will be back up and running? I’m dying here! Was SOO CLOSE to finishing it and then they took it away!!! Why did they take it down? What issues were they having?
sand knoll
People weren't receiving the correct number of cells they were supposed to receive
keen sparrow
Where can I find info on the new Warmaster?
keen sparrow
Had a 14 day break, and feel I missed a year lol
haughty dragon
Hey guys does anyone know how much a 3k orbs actually costs?
Im at 10k and wondering if i should buy orbs to get me to 13k for a 130 WM
crystal vigil
lunar belfry
13k orbs give a 120 warmaster not a 130 kyle
brittle hemlock
^
crystal vigil
i think they give a 115 warmaster not a 120
lunar belfry
13300 orbs give a 120 warmaster ¯_(ツ)_/¯
lunar belfry
wut
haughty dragon
What does the 27 mean?
27 dollars?
And oh yeah i meant 120
17.8k gives 130
@crystal vigil
lunar belfry
it means that you need to purchase 2 packs of orbs in the sale 27 times
you need to purchase 28 though not 27 but you'll probably get some orbs along the way
mortal bay
It’s 19k for a 130
lunar belfry
you need a bit less than 1.2k gems to get those orbs
lunar belfry
a 120 warmaster will give you access to all the 4th group's skills
haughty dragon
But is it 17k or 13k for a 120?
haughty dragon
I have 10.9 rn
brittle hemlock
you're not far off then
mortal bay
I was about to ask how, then I remembered the 4500 orb reward
violet mesa
Same
worthy scroll
I have almost 7k
violet mesa
4.5k helped me
worthy scroll
Half way of the rank 4 then
Anyway I don't have 3 rank 5 monsters for any element lol
I'll try to get the metal one however it is with my currently work in progress rank 4 metal monsters
I hope is good
polar valve
I got 2.8 from buying while on sale
110 orbs for 42 gems
not a very bad deal
plus if you beat a dungeon in time, you get a free level X rune
worthy scroll
those 42 gems are well invested, I'm doing the same every time I see the offer
is even better than buying the single time offer
just need to be patient
polar valve
I stopped buying them after my gems faded
shrewd edge
Do yall think that the water war master will be OP?
I wonder if i should save for it.
urban bloom
it's imigbo
wide python
@shrewd edge untill now all WM have something special
ornate oak
No doubt that it will have aoe ally immunity to freeze and mega freeze.
lunar belfry
aoe super attuned to water attacks 🤔
wide python
lol
tacit mason
Hi guys
little berry
Still nothing on Barbael?
wide python
no
little berry
im still waiting on the water warmaster =3
wide python
Next new one is light: Elvira after that we dont know
worthy scroll
it's been 16 days without data mining info , I'm worried lol
maybe SP is pushing the info just when about to release the event now
silk tapir
I’m also really excited for water wm
It’ll probably have immune to freeze/mega for team yeah
But I’m hoping it’ll have mega freezing capacity of its own
drowsy jackal
Area Caster: Area Energy Regeneration is my guess.
brittle hemlock
That'd be op unless its 20 or less stamina.
haughty dragon
How would that b op? I never recharge anyway when i use charging banner
fickle acorn
^
mortal bay
So a charging banner...
brittle hemlock
a charging banner except every turn
silk tapir
My gosh just read up on Elvira’s skills
How is that allowed
Along with evasion to start
silk tapir
yeah
but i mean blocking all damage except light is awesome
i know valgar has it too but
crystal vigil
luthien too
brittle hemlock
i was gonna say luthien
stoic path
Wjo knows if there will be survival nemesis dungeon again?
ripe vigil
Sp
crystal vigil
how do you know? maybe they don't have any plans yet so they don't know
ripe vigil
True, but if anyone does its them
wide python
the only thing that was said they wont be back for a while
floral yacht
When are the dungeons coming back?
silk ridge
Soon i hope.
ripe vigil
It should be done by the 30th because of Taringa info of Blessing rewards arrival dates
brittle hemlock
23rd would be nice.
balmy scaffold
Hi
ripe vigil
Hello
stoic path
@wide python it was about usual nemesys djngeons, not about survival
wide python
nem survival dungeons where there for the first time before vacation time so Iets wait and see
kind crane
Any confirmation on when light warmaster is out?
tame beacon
I believe somewhen in the next year 😃
ripe vigil
I think you are correct @tame beacon, maybe... 😀
worthy scroll
Some information was updated on Taringa, I'm guessing next monday ... or not lol
tame beacon
Sorry it was just too easy 😄
mortal bay
I hope this is some kind of joke
Elvira getting the Amulet relic slot is a complete joke and an embarrassment to the monster
The magnificent Elvira is clearly displayed holding a sword and a shield, so why would you not use some common sense and give her those as her relic slots. It’s obvious simply based off of design. I know I’m jumping to conclusions here but something needed to be said.
ripe vigil
What we really need is the cat
stoic path
Metal warmaster - everybody is an artifact?
tropic crag
hopefully not
mortal bay
Out of all the relic Elvira could have got paired with a sword, amulet makes the least sense. Not only that but all of the amulet relics are god awful. We’ve gotten newer relics that go unused as they’re worse than the original ones. How’s about you make some actually decent amulet relics, something more consistent.
main current
Everybody is an artifact.... 😂😂 Wow, LoL. I think we would see a lot more igursus & tank like monsters in elite PVP. Come to think of it, it would change the entire dynamics.
Bring it........ I think. 🤔
kind crane
You have the bronze healing amulet tbf
mortal bay
When the bronze version is the best you know the relic type sucks
What’s the point of rarities if the common stuff is better
mortal bay
Kinetic amulet needs to be changed because it’s bloody awful.
worthy scroll
I agree @mortal bay she should have a sword and a shield, she's a support monster that will work great giving her allies extra shield