#maze-islands

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winged drum
molten dove
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Oh thanks didnt notice

sterile needle
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What's the chaos maze about

winged drum
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About Chaos

cobalt nest
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Yikes 2990 coins only doable if the game gives you perfect 225 each collection. But it doesn’t. After 3 collections, I’m already 10 short. Even with alarms to wake me up in middle of night, not gonna get 2990 with game not giving full coins 😢

ivory sandal
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That's the big issue. You can put in all the effort required to get him (collections every 4 hours) but still fall short because the game refuses to give you 225 coins despite not having collected anything for 4 hours.

cobalt nest
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Yep true dat ^^^. I not only have an alarm set, I also breed thunder eagle, which is itself a timer. Therefore, falling short and not giving me the full 225 coins is the game’s fault. The devs should take this into consideration and not make 2990 an unachievable goal 😞

cerulean portal
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have same problem too

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not getting full collection for some reason

narrow seal
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if you're missing out on coins from hatching thunder eagles for example, you'll get them if you're to buy a treezard/firesaur and hatch it after the thunder eagle. If that still doesn't get you it, keep buying them and you should have the 50 by the time you've bought 2.

cobalt nest
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It’s not just breeding, hatching. I’m also only getting 14 for pvp, 29 for feeding. Every 4 hours these pools should be full and give the full 225 but they don’t

proven python
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Yea, I don’t get full collections either. You can only miss 7 coins per collection and still get Flamerion (minus the roulette wheel).

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So, if you really want him and are having collection problems, consider setting some gems aside for the last roulette wheels.

buoyant tinsel
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Cant get flamerion f2p, can only get 2850 coins max (12 perfect collections and starting 150) so 140 short of egg

cobalt nest
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@buoyant tinsel there was a calculation I saw in one of these channels, that you could theoretically get it f2p with perfect collections @225 per collection. You’d have a bit more than 3000. That is, IF you get the full 225 per collection. But you don’t

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If I remember it correctly, there’s actually 12.9 collections. Not 12 collections. Hence, you’d get a bit more than 3000. But only IF you get full 225 per collection

vagrant trellis
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I'm at full collections no problem, and yes just under 13 collections possible

sonic wren
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A perfect collection would be 1275 by now correct? @vagrant trellis

vagrant trellis
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On the last hr yes

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Hang on, I'll get a pic

haughty wave
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Recently i am seeing tht coins is inversely proportional to time spent on game

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As today i just opened the game to attack in wars and got 15 less coins in next collection

cobalt nest
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@vagrant trellis how? I’ve tried everything. I even have to come here and ask. I also try to wait an extra 10 minutes after my alarm goes off. But nope. Nothing works. It keeps shortening me by 1 from each pool. Like 14 for pvp, 29 for feeding, 49 for breeding, hatching. Nothing I do makes it full 😖

vagrant trellis
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It's quite complex the explain, I'll try, basically pools fill continuously, but access to the pool depends on the time you log in. So if coins added to pool after you've logged in you can't get them unless you restart. I believe the 1 or more missing happens because the system doesn't always respond quick enough to you emptying pools on previous collection. For this maze I'm doing more partial collections to avoid it and also allows me to be late with a collection without loosing coins. I spent many early maze working out the dynamics of mazes, not obsessed at all, lol (I'm a mathematician)

proven python
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I’ve done partial collections before and it made me get even less overall coins. I’ve noticed what Raj Saman said to be true for a while now, for me at least. Whenever I log in to do war attacks or anything else that takes more than a minute, I get shorted even more coins. Normally, I just roll with the short collections as they aren’t too big a deal. But when it’s close like this it is very frustrating.

haughty wave
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Ya its true i am seeing this from previous mazes also.....if you spend more time between 4 hour pool you lose more coins.....once i leaved the game open charging the phone for 1 or 2 hrs...then when i saw it i closed ...there was still 2 hrs left for breed and hatch

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After 2 hrs when i hatched i got 41 for breed and hatch each

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And others 2 to 3 coins less

sonic wren
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I just enter the game every 4 hours

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Got 1310 coins so far

proven python
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That’s an odd amount for entering every 4 hours. But I have the same amount haha.

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And I’ve been logging in every 4 hours.

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I’ve also likely got 49 coins waiting to be hatched since I only have one free hatchery slot.

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I’m averaging 6.25 maze coins lost per collection.

fringe pelican
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6 coins per collection could make the difference

cobalt nest
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Oh thanks guys for all your suggestions. I’ll try that next... not logging in for 4 hours and see if I get full amounts

The only partial collections I do are for gold and food. Feed, breed, hatch I don’t do partials. I do those once in 4 hours. I’ll try to restrain myself and not log in for the next 4 hrs

proven python
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Well, I think there is also an issue with reading the correct timing of the collection too. I actually login 4h 2m after I’m done doing everything. Sometimes I get all the coins that way. I’d say it averages about 50% of the time I get full coins. But downside is that I lose about 3-4 minutes every collection. So it might not even be helpful at all.

finite warren
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well

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I left the game open for 2 hours

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the egg gave 27

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so

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I think there's something going wrong with the coin generating mechanics here

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If you play the game, coins won't be generating

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tried any possible method to get the coins but seems like there aren't any left in the pools

haughty wave
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Same thing i have told above

finite warren
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with this going on

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I might not even get the scroll

uncut shuttle
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Same here ...

haughty wave
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It was a old problem which was corrected but now it came again

uncut shuttle
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In the previous MoP Paths, i got alot of coins but in this one ...

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OMG .. i didn't even get 27 coins 😭

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Now, i can't get Flamerion ...

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no!!! Fix this please :(

cobalt nest
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@proven python When my alarm goes off, I work on getting all the other stuff first, then last action is to put the breed in. Then I leave the game and set a new alarm. So there’s actually a 5 minute delay from the previous alarm. I never get the full amounts.

When maze first starts, the first collection everything is good but every collection after the first never gives me the full amounts

uncut shuttle
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It gives ...

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But not anymore ...

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In the previous mazes , everyone got 225 maze coins / collection ...

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But now ... it doesn't

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Give full coins ...

finite warren
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for some reasons the game bugged again

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so

proven python
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Tbh, I’ve always had this problem. I haven’t played a single maze where this doesn’t happen to me. Like I said before, though, usually I don’t care, but this is cutting it close.

finite warren
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let's log off and only logs in after 4 hours

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this happened with progressives in the past

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if u login in any given time during the 8-hours period

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the pool will just reset

sonic wren
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I'm gonna hope that I manage around 3k if I'm short,then the roulette spins will hopefully suffice

finite warren
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uh

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you can get a maximum of over 3k

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but with this

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maybe not

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and also you might be missing collections...

sonic wren
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I havent missed any collections so far but I'm sure some coins are getting lost here and there

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There are 7 roulette spins in the path so, if I was to use gems that would be 175 extra maze coins which hopefully will be enough for flamerion

royal onyx
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How much coins do you guys have?

cobalt nest
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Rip I’m saving my gems for Zameleon. Someone said he’d cost 100 gems at least. I’ve got like 140 gems 😆

sonic wren
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I think flamerion is alot better than zameleon

shut oxide
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Zameleon is a supporter, Flamerion is an attacker

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Also Flamerion cannot have damage buffs, so you need raw damage

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My hatchery is full, so I miss at least 50 coins every collection, until I can get rid of the monsters there

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And of course no monsters for Pierceid, only the parents ...

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I'm getting triggered here. Might as well blame everyone on Twitter 😂

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Relax, I won't do that

molten dove
merry dagger
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@molten dove 2700 for scroll, 2990 for egg

molten dove
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Yikes

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I dont think its possible for me without buying maze coins 😬

merry dagger
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Its possible to get the scrool , if you dont miss the collections

thorny solstice
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The last one always seems to be that way. If you factor in the fact that some collects won't be perfect and take time to mess with, it's right on the cusp of impossible for the egg

molten dove
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Yea

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Since i have school im gonna miss a collection

vagrant trellis
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I seem to be the lucky one for getting coins, my game is practically open in background all day, I just reload when a collection due or I want to do a partial.

blazing flint
cerulean portal
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Around u or same

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Lemme check

sonic wren
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havent walked yet, but 1606 coins and 1595 on other act

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At 1530 so far

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1500 should be the perfect collection 34 minutes ago

cerulean portal
dense sun
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same stage as Hey peter parker

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but i overslept one collection by like 2 hours

cerulean portal
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I'm going to stop b4 pvp

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Incase I need rerolls

crystal latch
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ouch

sonic wren
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Only one more sleepless night and I'll get flamerion >:3

molten dove
visual badger
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I have gotten 1/3 of the Maze Coins I have been usually getting. It's this way almost every Master of Paths on the 4th monster!

dense sun
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i have troubles getting coins too from hatching. spent some gems to boost other eggs to fix that.

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but also from other resources. but hatching gives me most trouble

sonic wren
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I really hope they fix the coin collections it really sucks

dense sun
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only coins from breeding are working nicely since last change

rough knot
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I usually do breeding and hatching last. It seems to work 99% of the time for me. When it doesn't, I buy a firesaur and get my coins that way

dense sun
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yes. but in this event this time, firasaur doesn't work sometimes, and hatching with thunder eagles gives less than 10 coins even

rough knot
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Huh? That's not true. I've been getting 48-50 consistently

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I collect gold, then food, then feed, then pvp, then hatch, then breed in that order

small cobalt
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Can i get the scroll at this rate?

outer crag
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Yeah

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If you dont miss any collections

small cobalt
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Too bad i couldnt get all 225 maze coins everytime

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Missed 10 maze coins total

outer crag
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Well most likely you'll still get it

steady coral
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I don't see that being obtainable.

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Considering steps go above 225, that isn't gonna be obtainable

small cobalt
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Yes i calculated... i m gonna be 20 maze coins short off the scroll

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I m gonna grab those from the spin most probably

dense sun
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i think will miss less than 80 coins to get egg

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with perfect collections

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wish i didn't oversleep last night

sonic wren
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No matter how many times I hatch I dont get the 50 for it

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It's been more than 4 hours

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Feels bad man

proven python
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@small cobalt If your goal is just the scroll, my math shows you should get it easily. You need 925 coins to get it. You can get 900+ from collecting every 4 hours and right before the event ends. Add the 164 you already have and I think you’re good.

manic sandal
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yeah a new nice lightning monster

sonic wren
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would love to see a list again with numbers as we did from an earlier MOP with players making all 4 paths. This has been a true challenge. 🤠

vagrant trellis
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FYI, for those not getting hatch coins have you checked to amount you have in the maze screen before and after hatching. I've noticed sometimes I hatch but no coins graphic appears, but the coins are added to my total.

tough trellis
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Soooo close...

hard crow
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U will make it to at least the scroll. Egg idk 😬

tough trellis
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Think I'm gonna be just a little short of egg 😢

outer crag
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You should have enough

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If you do both collections @tough trellis

glossy relic
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I overslept and missed a collection

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RIP

cerulean portal
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Wowie

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Spend around 100 gems only to get 100 coins

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And accidentally pressed x

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I'm pretty sure I got more than 100

keen island
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What does the scroll even do?

narrow tundra
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The more you collect, the more rewards you get 😃

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and @cerulean portal you do realise you only get the last reward you get if you respin on roulettes?

vagrant trellis
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Got the scroll

obtuse ice
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wow

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👏

vagrant trellis
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Thanks, 1 more collection and I'm done

cerulean portal
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ok what

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did i just waste

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gems

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on nothing

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o w o

regal holly
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Hi guys. How many coins do you think I can i get if i reroll at every roulette spin in the flammy maze ?

bright blade
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idk

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less than 200

vagrant trellis
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25 each roulette

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There's 7?

bright blade
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there arent that many roulette spins in the maze

vagrant trellis
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Yep 7, 4 roulettes then 3 more from fights, so 175 max.

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I was tempted to respin so could finish early, but ended up with 3/7 anyway.

regal holly
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Oh just 175. I guess I won’t reach the egg

cobalt nest
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Omg can I get 200 coins with the time remaining?? I’m short 54 coins because the game did not give me the full 225 per collection 😩

sonic wren
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looks VERY good for you 😃

obtuse ice
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i suggest u to move flammy now🤔

sonic wren
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if you want less stress walk him and get 25 coins from 1 roulette spinn (Y)

cobalt nest
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@sonic wren ooooo I like that idea! I was gonna wait til the last hour to see how many spins I need. Now I know I need 200 coins. So maybe 1 or 2 spins? Maybe 2 spins to be abso sure 🤔

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I’ve never paid gems for extra spins before. About how many gems on average to get the wheel to land on the coins?

sonic wren
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@cobalt nest I paid 29 gems and got all the 7 spins to land

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4 gems a spin for my experience

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1 spinn is enough. So maybe get it for free, if not do respinns on last fight node 😁

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Mission accomplished here 🙋‍♂️

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Niceee

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Congrats boii 👀

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Ty

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Maybe I'll trade some extra pierceid cells and rank him up

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nice =), to me the big thrill is to open those 2 gold relic (diamond chances). cant wait 😃

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You'll surely make it

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@sonic wren do u not have enough Angry

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Jk :p

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lololo XD

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never 😅

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Many MOP masters who make it, nice Nadde!

cobalt nest
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I read comments above... so if the wheel lands on the coin, I should exit immediately? I should not continue to pay 1 gem and keep re spinning?

narrow tundra
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Yes, when you respin, you lose the reward you just got

cobalt nest
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Thank you! Glad I saw those comments. Otherwise I would have done the same mistake 🙈

dense sun
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no egg for me. in both nights i fall asleep right before breeding/hatching. so i missed too much. got scroll tho

cedar gale
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Did it. Gems where spent respining but it did give me a threshold of freedom with my rotations. I needs sleep now

sonic wren
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Congratz

obtuse ice
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congrats

tough trellis
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Pheeew...

glossy relic
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Is the scroll useful?

wary vale
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Yeah

alpine parcel
cobalt nest
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Yessss got it! With some coins to spare 😅. This has been stressful 😂

wary vale
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Buy coins

obtuse ice
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congrats

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@vagrant trellis what about u?

wary vale
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I didn't even get the scroll

obtuse ice
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i didnt even get one scroll

cobalt nest
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What how come

obtuse ice
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simple

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too lazy

cobalt nest
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I had to spend some gems for extra spins to get this egg

wary vale
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I had sleepless nights

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And got 3 scrolls

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I mean i got bandses with sleep

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But jasastur i stayed up until 5:50 am

obtuse ice
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hecc

cobalt nest
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Yea the first one was easy. This last one was stressful 😂

wary vale
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Yeah i didn't get flamerion

cobalt nest
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Will it come back again in the future? So people who didn’t get it this time will get it then?

wary vale
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No it'll be different monsters next time

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How do i claim my rewards for getting scrolls

obtuse ice
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u get them at the end of the event

wary vale
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The event ended it's no where in the screen

narrow tundra
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It’ll come up automatically at some point

wary vale
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K

vagrant trellis
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Yes, got it and some extra cells @obtuse ice

obtuse ice
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congrats 👏

vagrant trellis
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Thanks

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Glad to see a few got it, 2 on my team so far that I know of

obtuse ice
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u are a really good maze player

minor stream
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Wait... is there any maze on right now? Just got maze coins from collecting food

vagrant trellis
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No they are from last maze, frequently happens

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You must have collected food earlier, but didn't do a quick farm to get coins

minor stream
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I see, ok thanks

wary vale
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Witch one is a good maze player

tough trellis
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Weird, got all 4 scrolls but only received 1 master of paths chest? Anyone else had theirs yet?

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Weird, got all 4 scrolls but only received 1 master of paths chest? Anyone else had theirs yet?

thorn ember
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Yes Shadow, same here. But everytime it pops up, the app crashes

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And when reentering, its gone and the scrolls are back

wicked oasis
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The other chests are in the one you have

glossy relic
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I got two scrolls. Do I still get any chests?

wicked oasis
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Yes

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1 scroll gets you one

glossy relic
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Cool

wicked oasis
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2 scrols are better rewards

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and chest n1

glossy relic
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I see. Thanks mate

wicked oasis
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Np

thorn ember
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And when i dont have any?

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Got 4 scrolls...

wicked oasis
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click on the side of the screen where the unchained breeding event is and click the left arrow till it goes on the first page

thorn ember
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Just happened again...this time it shut down again when opening the 3rd chest..but 1 and 2 is missing.....
Will try to follow ur advise

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No luck...

wicked oasis
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Yikes

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contact support

thorn ember
wicked oasis
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Yeah

thorn ember
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And i will..thx anyways

wicked oasis
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you get N3 , 2 and 1 from chest N4

serene valley
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I haven’t received any Scroll chest yet and I had gotten all 4

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Do I need to report this or are they aware?

wicked oasis
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As i said

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click on the side of the screen where the unchained breeding event is and click the left arrow till it goes on the first page

serene valley
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I did that. What should I be seeing? I see exclusive diamond relic chest when I scroll all the way left.

river saffron
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had same crashing when trying to claim scroll reward and no chests to open. Nothing in side window of note, will see if it sorts itself out.

thorn ember
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KP i have made a ticket...

sage cipher
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I also had a crash with my phone and only got the first chest . But collected all 4 scrolls . I miss out on level 7 ,6 ,4 and gold chest relic

narrow tundra
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It’s being worked on

thorn ember
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Thx...thats all i need to know here and now

narrow tundra
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Also you only get 1 chest. The other chests are in that chest.

thorn ember
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I get that.....but when the app blows everytime u get it... :)

narrow tundra
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No I know, that part is being worked on 😃

thorn ember
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It states...3rd chest
Also have a pic..taken after this one, which states..1st chest

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But whatever..as long as it get it 😄

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And..now...it has been fixed for me..

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After restarting the game

sonic wren
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When's the next maze?

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Sunday

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Thx for the information

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@sonic wren

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:)

subtle goblet
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Any info on the New Maze yet?Who The bonus monster specifically is?

haughty wave
subtle goblet
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Thank's Raj. 👍

outer crag
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@subtle goblet
Its makugan

small cobalt
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I have a question

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Can i go for two monsters at a time?

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Considering i spend my coins only during discounts

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And do almost perfect collection

winged drum
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Yes.

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But uuhhhh we're not sure yet.

obtuse ice
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yep, not sure yet

glossy relic
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You can. But it's difficult to get the top monsters

subtle goblet
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@outer crag Thank you. Makugan 😀

haughty wave
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Volthar will be good than maku

winged drum
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Volthar is good.

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It's unofficial but it says he's faster than Sunblast.

narrow tundra
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His stats have been official released 😃

winged drum
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O

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Neat.

small cobalt
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Volthar has only 30%stamina removal

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Nabuline had 50%

haughty wave
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Volthar hv aoe per+ nanovirus

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Now say

calm frigate
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Is Volthar a better control monster or a supporter?

atomic charm
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Control

haughty wave
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Control attacker

cobalt axle
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What monsters are you aiming for in the Chaos Fortress Maze tomorrow?

haughty wave
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Volthar

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A ranked 3

cobalt axle
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I’m going for Hookuai

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But apparently the Secret monster is going to be Makugan

calm frigate
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Thanks

haughty wave
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A ranked Volthar >> unranked makugan

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Maybe ranked volthar>> ranked makugan

cobalt axle
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Here are Volthar’s Stats and Skills if you want to view them 👍

small cobalt
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Volthar versus hookuai....its an easy meal for hookuai

cobalt axle
haughty wave
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Huh really its not a easy meal for hookuai

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Because volthar is electric and hookuai is water

shut oxide
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Water deals normal damage to Thunder

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Plus Volthar is not an attacker

small cobalt
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Yes volthar is not an attacker

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And stamina removal against hookuai is useless

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Power of the deep plus deadly interruption😉

shut oxide
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The only way Volthar could take down Hookuai is through the Damage Mirror (in a 1v1 scenario) and that's not very reliable (Uriel's Essence).

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Based on what they are based on (Pacific Rim), it's a little bit underwhelming (Jaegers usually take down Kaijus)

winged drum
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Yagers.

small cobalt
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Hookuai clearly has the edge with immunity to control and zero stamina moves and protection of positive effects

haughty wave
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Huh nanovirus will block the protection of postive effects.....isnt it

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And volthar is fast also

dapper wind
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Imo, hookaui has the better trait

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I think I’m going to go for volthar since I don’t have a good thunder monster atm besides neobuki and I already have Gorg so why not?

haughty wave
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I am comparing hookuai and volthar without ranked or any runes

dapper wind
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Volthar is built as a denier, but Hookuai is built as a attacker. At the same time, the 70 dmg skill is spammable so each extra turn he steals is a lot of dmg, even if he’s been CDA

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They basically have the same special but imo volthar has a better one

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Volthar has PER which is super helpful in today’s meta with mega taunt, skill mirror, evasion

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Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk

haughty wave
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First turn goes to volthar so he will use tyun gwat....then hookuai uses whatever but it cant stop volthar'S turn.....as everyone is now going with a zero cooldown move if hookuai uses cda
Then volthar will do ittasyu ryu then hookuai will miss the turn due to stamina leak and 30% before and hookuai cant use tht 70 dmg move due to SC

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@dapper wind isnt it this way

dapper wind
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Yes in a 1v1 volthar would probably win...

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But in a pvp standpoint, volthar is more useful considering his skills, particularly his PER

haughty wave
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I will surely want to test 1v1 with any of our team mates

topaz stream
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Hookuai will win LaughP

winged drum
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Volthar is an anti Hookuai.

haughty wave
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Hookuai cant attack full due to Sc of volthar

topaz stream
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It's only for 2 turns LaughP

haughty wave
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Thts enough for volthar to ruin hookuai

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See i hv given a analysis above

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Wait is it 2 turns...really?

topaz stream
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Volthar is s denier but hookuai is an attacker
So, Hookuai will win GGP

haughty wave
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You cant say tht on the basis of a attacker or denier

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The moves decids tht

topaz stream
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He has 70 damage 0 CD 0 stamina move

haughty wave
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Lets do a 1v1 after maze

topaz stream
haughty wave
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Only volthar unranked and without runes

rough knot
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Anyone know why I haven't gotten my master of paths chests?

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I still have both scrolls

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my game is also updated

atomic charm
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U need all 4 scrolls

haughty wave
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No you can get chest with 2 scrolls also

mint quartz
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You don't need 4. I only got 1 and got the chest

sonic wren
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Both Jasastur and flamerion with one rune slot ;-;

wary vale
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Oof

minor stream
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Maze starts in 1h?

obtuse ice
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or 2

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🤔

shut oxide
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On Sunday?

obtuse ice
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well check the weekly calendar

atomic charm
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So who's the main monster of this maze. Thought it was thunder but looks like the water monster might be it

jade yew
#

Need chart

obtuse ice
#

wait for it @jade yewlol

cedar kernel
#

30% discount

gusty breach
#

arent mazes usually 14 days?

vagrant trellis
#

No, they vary

gusty breach
#

how long was last one?

atomic charm
#

Last couple ones have been 14-15 days

gusty breach
#

hopefully costs adjust

sand pier
#

Guys I’m on 308 mazeoins right now

vagrant trellis
#

They are adjusted depending when they want next event to start

sand pier
#

Can someone give me the map without fog please

atomic charm
#

Its been 14 minutes tho. Patience

sand pier
#

Heh

shut oxide
#

Hmm, I started with 201 maze coins

sand pier
#

Woah

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I dident get maze coins for hatching egg sadly

outer crag
#

@narrow tundra

shut oxide
#

I just hope they adjust the costs too, this maze is shorter than usual

outer crag
#

Atleast is not a 17 day of torment @shut oxide

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Kind of maze

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Only 12 days of torment :)

woven tangle
#

Is the chart released yet?

atomic charm
#

Is it?

sonic wren
#

Missed the discount ;-;

cedar kernel
#

Rip

steady coral
#

Chart won't appear in here

sand pier
#

wow thats sa

#

d

west blaze
#

Anyone know the hidden monster

sand pier
#

yes its makugan

west blaze
#

Bad or go for volthac

sand pier
#

bad?

west blaze
#

Is makugan good?

sand pier
#

yes

ivory drift
#

Yea

sand pier
#

hookuai better though

ivory drift
#

Nah

west blaze
#

No one uses her in pvp

ivory drift
#

Not much a fan of that shark with rabies

west blaze
#

Thing is I need the costs

obtuse ice
#

wait for them

west blaze
#

Because makugan is limited and the rest is 12 days

sonic wren
#

its up on youtube 16 min ago

obtuse ice
#

o

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i think sonnor is already calculating

sonic wren
#

makugan we wont know for some time

obtuse ice
#

yeah, its like asking the costs of the next race

sonic wren
#

true XD

west blaze
#

I’m going to check the hacker channel

obtuse ice
#

how could we know if it isnt in the game yet

ebon hatch
#

Any strategies for earning maze coins ?

sand pier
#

the hacker channel is valkeryie 420 or xgamesplay?

sonic wren
#

valkyrie 420 is up on youtube atm

west blaze
#

Got it

sand pier
#

kk

west blaze
#

@ebon hatch breed, hatch, feed, collect food and gold, pvp repeat every four hours I think, and you can get maze coins from spinning the wheel

topaz stream
ebon hatch
#

@west blaze thanks

sonic wren
#

seems to be around 13 k to get hooukai with 30 % discount looking at that vid

#

Will there be a special path?

#

yes makugan

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Thanks

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21350~ for rank 2 Hookuai from my calculations

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Take it with a grain of salt tho

obtuse ice
#

o

#

is that good?

sonic wren
#

That includes the keys and no discounts

obtuse ice
#

@sonic wren

sonic wren
#

Also doesnt account for what is found on the path

west blaze
#

What about the keys

sonic wren
#

Idk man I just did a calculation from the "hackers" video

#

well if there is a late 30 % as usual and someone catch that its a good maze as the ones before.

obtuse ice
#

mhm

west blaze
#

Who’s the best in that maze

obtuse ice
#

would 19k me possible?

#

hookuai

sonic wren
#

I think the hookuai path without keys was 14000~

west blaze
#

👌

obtuse ice
#

without respins?

west blaze
#

There will be another 30% at the last hours?

sonic wren
#

You can collect 16000~ theoretically with perfect collections

obtuse ice
#

dang

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i guess no makugan for me🤔

narrow tundra
#

gimme a sec

obtuse ice
#

sonnor are u doing the costs?

sonic wren
#

With some respins, what you can get on the path, mw and dungeons I think u can get 19k tyrael

narrow tundra
#

yes

obtuse ice
#

mhm

west blaze
#

Yeah no makugan for me either

obtuse ice
#

is hookuai better than makugan tho?

narrow tundra
#

Its definitely not 14k for Hookuais path with no keys lol, unless you're doing some serious ranking

sonic wren
#

RIP calculation;-;

outer crag
#

@narrow tundra, you didnt reply to dm :3

obtuse ice
sonic wren
#

It was 14k with r2 in mind If I remember right

west blaze
#

Really?

narrow tundra
#

yes ive been busy, give me a sec

obtuse ice
signal nimbus
#

is Volthar any good?

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he looks cool

obtuse ice
#

kinda

sonic wren
#

He good

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Not hookuai good but good

outer crag
#

I'll just forward it here

#

Darbet

obtuse ice
signal nimbus
#

Hookuai seems like a counter to Gorg

obtuse ice
#

i think ill get makugan instead of hookuai

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🤔

west blaze
#

Really?

obtuse ice
#

the thing is

narrow tundra
obtuse ice
#

thx

west blaze
#

Yesss

signal nimbus
#

that was fast

obtuse ice
#

so

outer crag
#

Oh yess

obtuse ice
#

i need an attacker in both categories

west blaze
#

Cheapppp

obtuse ice
#

water and metal

west blaze
#

Same

naive raft
#

That was quick

obtuse ice
#

omgg thats cheap

outer crag
#

Everyone is possible to get GWqlabsLove GWqlabsLove

west blaze
#

Cheappp

outer crag
#

Even without discount

#

Now, might anyone know cost for makugan?

narrow tundra
#

If i do ranking costs it'll be later, theyve changed

topaz stream
#

Hookuai's cost is too lowww

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I'm getting him

west blaze
#

sonnor that counts keys right

sonic wren
#

Yep

obtuse ice
#

@outer crag it might be around 5k

west blaze
#

💥

outer crag
#

5k? Thats easily affordable with the cost for either top monsters

narrow tundra
#

yes it includes key costs

outer crag
west blaze
#

30% comes on the last hours? Of the maze

obtuse ice
#

last days

topaz stream
#

20%

west blaze
#

Ok

narrow tundra
#

A 30% might not come at all, we don't know

west blaze
#

alright

topaz stream
west blaze
#

How many collections you guys do a day?

topaz stream
#

5

narrow tundra
#

Its better to prepare for the worst, don't want you factoring in a 30% into your plans and then it never arrives!

topaz stream
#

What if there is no happy hour at all? Is it possible?

obtuse ice
#

its impossible

topaz stream
sonic wren
#

16155 with no discount, sounds very friendly maze =))

west blaze
#

Volthar is the best I can get

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Can’t do 5 a day only 4

cerulean portal
#

lol i have exam next week

sonic wren
#

capitalized breeding event next week, last maze it was shadymoon with maze coins on capitalized event if i remember correctly 🤔

west blaze
#

Wait a minute

#

IS there going to be monsterwood maze coins and dungeon!!!!

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💥

sonic wren
#

definately most likely

west blaze
#

YES

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🥳

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Going to burn out mw

sonic wren
#

its usually around 2500/3000 coins to earn from dungeon and mw every long maze 😃

west blaze
#

HOly thank you

warm tulip
#

Will there be a secret path monster? and if there is what is it

west blaze
#

Makugan

sonic wren
#

magugan

obtuse ice
#

makugan

sonic wren
#

xD

obtuse ice
west blaze
#

Loll

warm tulip
#

Now another question

#

What's the best way to do mazes?

#

What're all the little tricks and tips I should know?

west blaze
#

breed, hatch, feed, collect food and gold, pvp repeat every four hours , and you can get maze coins from spinning the wheel, there will most likely be maze coins in monsterwood and in the dungeon

obtuse ice
#

wait

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i have aphoto with tips n tricks

west blaze
#

@warm tulip

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^^

steady path
#

Should I go for volthar or makugan

sand pier
#

makugan

warm tulip
#

I wouldn't go for either

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I'd go for the shark because that broken move it has

#

70 dmg 0 cd 0 stam cost is really good

steady path
#

Ok

waxen surge
#

how much cost hookuai rank 3?

atomic charm
#

A lot

vagrant trellis
#

For rank 3, it's usually an extra 7.5k approx without discount. Haven't done calculations for this maze yet

delicate iris
#

Including keys how much would M-2 WYVERN cost?

vagrant trellis
#

9750, without discount, there's a chart posted earlier

delicate iris
#

Ok

cobalt nest
#

If I don’t have any thunder legendary, should I get volthar?

haughty wave
#

Sure

cobalt nest
#

It seems from comments above that everyone likes the shark lol

versed coral
#

how hard will it be to get the shark

obtuse ice
#

u need to sacrifice some sleep and youre good to go

covert iris
#

So it's possible?

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F2p?

obtuse ice
#

yep

#

very possible

atomic charm
winged drum
#

Very Chep.

robust vector
#

Yes I am guaranteed volthar atlesst if I keep up my collections

glossy relic
#

Which one is best though? Robo or shark?

sonic wren
#

Shark

winged drum
#

WoahBot

atomic charm
#

I think robo

#

I already got gorg so don't really need a water attacker.

winged drum
#

Saem but..GWshinodunHaaha

#

I need an anticipation monster.

viscid mesa
#

Where is the stats of both

#

I forgot were the were

minor orchid
#

Should be there

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😁

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Not yet as long as I know

winged drum
#

@heady wagon it gets announced.

fathom mist
#

How much coin for makugan without discount??

drifting kraken
#

The Secret Path hasn't started yet....

#

How can we know

#

After many mazes I see a maze where I don't see a relation two main maze monster

west blaze
#

Anyone have a picture for all keys

obtuse ice
atomic charm
#

Can u get limited time monster and one of the main monsters without paying money?

mossy meteor
#

One or the other

glossy relic
#

@atomic charm you can if you do like 5 college tions per day

winged drum
#

Alex got 1000 maze coins already from respins.

glossy relic
#

What

atomic charm
#

@glossy relic oh so it is possible?

glossy relic
#

I'm sitting here with 300 after discount

atomic charm
#

I thought you could only get one or the other

glossy relic
#

@atomic charm yes . I got Dunn ra and olafur from last maze

atomic charm
#

Olfaur doesn't count as one of the last 2 tho. It was hobkin or nabuline.

glossy relic
#

The last two eh? Probably not

haughty wave
#

Yup sure i got hobkin r1 and dunn ra @atomic charm

atomic charm
#

Without paying @haughty wave

quartz folio
#

It's possible

haughty wave
#

Yeah

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I would hv got r2 hobkin but i missed 20% on dunn ra

quartz folio
#

4.5/5 pools a day+ maze coin dungeon+lucky spins PVP roullette/hard resoins+ monsterwood if possible
With these 17k coins easy

glossy relic
#

How many collections do you guys go for per day?

quartz folio
#

1125

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225x5

atomic charm
#

I hope to get 1k a day

quartz folio
#

Or at least 1k yes

glossy relic
#

You get discount on hidden path?

haughty wave
#

Huh you cant get 1k with perfect collections

quartz folio
#

@glossy relic
Sometimes

haughty wave
#

You can get 900 or 1125

quartz folio
#

Is SP gud maybe 20%

#

@haughty wave
4/5 pools

#

Also
Dont count first 150 free coins

haughty wave
#

4/5 is 900 coins per day

#

Or 1125

#

Better you try to collect 5

#

Its really easy going for 5 collection

#

And if you miss 2 or 3 it's ok @atomic charm

narrow tundra
sonic wren
#

nice 😃

#

thanks Sonnrcteer! 😃

quartz folio
#

@azure lotus
Can you release Volthar?

#

Thx for Hookuai tho.

obtuse bison
#

Are these monsters cheaper because this maze is only 12 days?

robust vector
#

@narrow tundra volthar price won’t load

narrow tundra
#

Is that better? I think the upload bugged

sonic wren
#

Both are the same for me.

wicked oasis
#

Uhh

#

these guys

#

are pretty expensive arent they..

#

uf

atomic charm
#

Ranked yep

sonic wren
#

Oh nvm

atomic charm
#

I'm still stuck on who to go for

small cobalt
#

These ranked ones are expensive

#

For five collections per day and the rest of the bonuses..we can grab both makugan and hookuai

mossy eagle
#

Is that how many coins you’ll need to get to the monster or is it how much each monster is when you start the path

covert iris
#

It shows how many coins you'll need to get the monster

sand pier
#

How many maze coins are you guys on?

#

I’m on 805

vagrant trellis
#

About 1.2k

obtuse ice
#

around 600

atomic charm
#

@vagrant trellis ??? Hmmm did u do roulette?

obtuse ice
#

hatchery full

sonic wren
#

Same

obtuse ice
sonic wren
#

;-;

vagrant trellis
#

Yes, about 10 gems spent, I've been very lucky

obtuse ice
atomic charm
#

Oh okay I was gonna say. 1200 in 9 hours

vagrant trellis
#

I like to get a head start, then can relax or go all out

#

Max amount 51 mins ago was 675+150=825,

atomic charm
#

Lucky. Thatd be too risky for me

obtuse ice
vagrant trellis
#

Will have to do calculations as to where I can get, another r5 would be nice

obtuse ice
cerulean portal
#

please make maze 8 hour collection my eyes are bleeding

bright blade
#

how many days will this maze last?

placid ore
#

Anyone knows the 30% discount days?

atomic charm
#

12 days

#

And no

vagrant trellis
#

Strangely 12, a bit shorter than usual and ends on a Friday

#

Don't recall a Friday end for a maze recently

bright blade
#

me neither

#

but hey, I am free on that day

atomic charm
#

Things change.

marsh rapids
#

Looks like from the coin/day needed chart that this maze is more expensive compared to the previous ones after rank 1.

rough knot
#

My hatchery is fuuuuull. Hopefully there's a diamond dungeon tomorrow or I lose 700 maze coins in total >.>

winged drum
#

Diamond dungeon?

true dagger
#

Does anyone know what’s gonna appear in the maze this time

thorny isle
#

if you mean secret path monster it is Makugan

topaz sparrow
#

So the secret path monster is Makugan

fathom mist
#

when the secret path will coming..?

woven tangle
#

Hey

dapper wind
#

Makugan is probably going to arrive on or after maze coin dungeon

#

845 coins about to make collection in 30 min is that on track for volthar R2?

#

Will be missing a collection tonight cause I value my sleep and then I’ll miss collection to school 😦

atomic charm
#

Volthar second to last monster shouldn't be that hard

#

R2 tho. I hear ranking is more expensive but good luck

rough knot
#

@winged drum I meant gem dungeon

outer crag
#

I have 1350 coins so far

#

Hbu guys?

wary vale
#

450 cause i haven't been able to check my ohone today

unkempt ingot
#

Around 1000 - the discount at the start

coarse ravine
#

which one is better..?? volthar or hookuai

small hamlet
#

They're both good. Depends what type of monster you need

dapper wind
#

1226 coins atm, going to hopefully have 1451 tomorrow, R2 volthar here i come

winged drum
#

Maku and unranked volthar.

#

Or prolly just go for hookuai.

subtle goblet
#

Also gonna try for Maku and unranked vothar. Just noticed probs in getting coins from hatching tho. 100 coins out and before the first day ends 😫

#

I get to fix the breed or hatching problem before by breeding and hatching the combo of -firesaur+rockilla = firekong/freettle. Unfortunately now my hatchery full. So can't try that method. 😅

sonic wren
#

maze coin dungeon is up

molten dove
#

Does anyone know the amount for Haku yet?

narrow tundra
#

I don't think Haku is in this maze 😛

oblique whale
#

Makugan

molten dove
#

Oops lol I meanr to say Makugan

#

Thanks Tempbog

oblique whale
#

No problem

molten dove
#

But yea does anyone know the amount for Makugan yet?

narrow tundra
#

Nope, we won't until she's out

molten dove
#

Ok thanks

narrow tundra
#

We never get the costs in advance

molten dove
#

Oh ok

fossil jolt
#

@narrow tundra i think around 5k coins will cost for makugan.... ???

fathom mist
#

When secret path is coming, can theres with discount time..?

narrow tundra
#

I mean I don't think it will be that much, but we're still both guessing 😃

rose harbor
#

Anyone know the costs to every monster?

narrow tundra
#

Yes, they're in images above 😃

fossil jolt
#

Imagine if secret path arrive tommorrow.

#

😱

sonic wren
#

I'm at 2737. Didn't miss anything yet

#

Others?

fossil jolt
#

@sonic wren thus is too much.

#

1500 yet.

sonic wren
#

Das tru tho and I can prove.

glossy relic
fossil jolt
#

@glossy relic with maze dungeon...????

glossy relic
#

Without

#

Just about to start the dungeon

fossil jolt
#

@glossy relic means you will be about 2500 after dungeon.

vagrant trellis
#

2356, need to go do dungeon

glossy relic
#

Hope so mate.

obtuse ice
#

I will have around 1,7k with the dungeon

#

😬😬

vivid mural
#

How do you guys get so many maze coins? Do you collect every hour? I don't even have 1K yet.

cerulean portal
#

every 4 hours

#

you collect everything

#

im not even trying to collect and i have 1327

#

🤔

placid ore
#

I have 1360 coins

molten dove
#

Im at 2303

mellow knot
#

I have 1659

sonic wren
#

2.4K here

shut oxide
#

1435 here (no dungeon coins yet)

fossil jolt
#

@shut oxide impressive

versed coral
#

do you think i’ll be able to atleast get a legendary if i have 800 coins right now

molten dove
#

What do you guys think the cost for Makugan will be?

versed coral
#

probably 15k or more

atomic charm
#

No lol

versed coral
#

my bad 35k

wicked oasis
#

50k*

atomic charm
#

Maybe 5 or 6k

#

Lmao

versed coral
#

idk but some finished the whole maze and it took 50k

wicked oasis
#

ffgjg

atomic charm
#

Lol

wicked oasis
#

without dicount?

#

if without thats a lie

shut oxide
#

Around 3k for Makugan

wicked oasis
#

dude no

shut oxide
#

She's not an Elite monster

wicked oasis
#

still

#

they overprice everything

shut oxide
#

I know

versed coral
#

look on youtube it was on 30%

#

and they started with 75k

fossil jolt
#

100k.

#

Final

versed coral
#

i just hope i get the fat ice dude

#

i need him because he’s strong and a eater attacker

#

water*

#

hopefully he doesn’t cost a lot

#

so each monster in the maze cost roughly 1k maze coins?

blazing flint
#

Anyone seen a moves to unlock keys picture?

#

@versed coral he isn't as good and useful as he used to be.

versed coral
#

i know but i only got 3 pvp legendary monsters and they are not water ones so i’ll be happy with any legendary

haughty flame
#

Anyone know when there is coin discounts? Especially the 30% discount

obtuse ice
#

we dont know

mint quartz
#

If we're lucky they'll announce it like last time

haughty flame
#

Okay

#

If there are a discount, will the game send a notification?

azure lotus
obtuse ice
#

no @haughty flame

#

but i think someone will do a @ here ping

#

hi bella GWeulixWave

azure lotus
#

That's right 😁

#

Heyyy 😃

#

Or maybe it'll probably be announced in advance when there's one 🙂

blazing flint
#

SP will post a day or so in advance for the 30% discount. Everyone will post on here 1,000 times telling everyone about it.

haughty flame
#

That’s so nice

blazing flint
#

How many coins do you have at this point? I have 2950

upper topaz
#

2800

wary vale
#

700 something

#

I was gone all day yesterday

undone patio
#

i have only 2032 its already impossible to get hookai for me..

#

i need attacker cause i got no one that is why i want him

wary vale
#

With my amount of coins who should i go for

#

I was thinking maybe cryotan or makugan

plucky sable
#

Any news on a discount chart yet?

obtuse ice
#

wont be one..

plucky sable
#

Ok thanks

outer jolt
#

will sp announce 30% later ?

obtuse ice
#

yes they will most probably

sonic wren
#

@undone patio if you collect perfectly it's not Impossible

placid ore
#

Hey

#

I have 2477 coins im in good way yo hookui

tulip ibex
#

2558 here (with dungeon)

mellow knot
#

2014 i have

tulip ibex
#

is necesary unlock all the monster to go for hookuai?

placid ore
#

@tulip ibexno

#

Only earn his keys

tulip ibex
#

ok, then I need ALL the keys? (Thanks btw)

placid ore
#

Yeap all keys

tulip ibex
#

got it thanks

minor stream
#

How many coins did the dungeon give?

obtuse ice
#

around 1k

minor stream
#

Ok nice

civic summit
#

How much do you need for cryotan? Yep

#

Ignore the yep

minor stream
#

Why is this not pinned like the other

signal nimbus
#

10% discount

minor stream
#

Credit: Sonnorcteer

undone patio
#

is there a chart that says upcoming discounts yet?

minor stream
#

Go up

atomic charm
#

That doesnt exist

sand pier
#

Shall I move my things?

heady wagon
#

its not 30%

sand pier
#

K

#

Hey will I be able to get makugan if I’m at 2.5k maze coins right now?

atomic charm
#

Guess you'll just have to wait and see huh

sand pier
#

Yeah

minor stream
#

Makugan wil come at the half way point right?

#

So i guess you will probably get it

sand pier
#

Patients is really maki me madddd

#

Yeah

odd void
#

When is the 30% discount?

severe steppe
#

Discount now

odd void
#

Yeh the 10% discount is now. But do we have times for the 30% one and the rest of them?

azure lotus
#

There isn't a chart for that Trollhide . . . Just keep an eye in here and in the game. If there's one, it'll probably be announced 🙂

umbral flicker
#

Is there an image of the full maze yet, so we know where all the keys are?

cerulean portal
#

check dms @umbral flicker

umbral flicker
#

Thanks

cerulean portal
#

np 😉

#

no sure

dapper wind
#

2687 coins atm and another collection to make in 1 hour 15 minutes am I on track for volthar R1/R2

#

Also does anyone have steps to unlock volthar?

#

Wish people would be willing to ping everyone for discounts tbh

hollow wigeon
#

Anyone know what the special monster will be for maze

dapper wind
#

Makugan

hollow wigeon
#

Ty

dapper wind
#

She’ll probably be around anywhere from 3.5k to 5k

cerulean portal
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only mods can ping @ everyone

dapper wind
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Oh

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Nvm then

cerulean portal
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and they do ping for discounts

dapper wind
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Sometimes 😦

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I got Dunn Ra since the mods pinged everyone for a discount

hollow wigeon
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I want makugan I don’t have any good metal monster

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I got so close with Dunn ra I was like 1k short 😭

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Where do you see requirements for ranks

cerulean portal
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link not working owo

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I guess you could get maybe R3 volthar if you do every single collection + dungeon + monsterwood

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probably not since full collections are hard to pull off

tardy dome
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volthar or hookuai

dapper wind
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Volthar if you have Gorg, hookaui if you don’t have Gorg (my opinion)

sonic wren
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Does this discoed notify you a maze discount?

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Discord*

fringe pelican
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go for hookuai if u dont have anticipation or youve got deniers
if u need a denier badly go for volt

undone patio
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hi guys i have 2823 maze coins am i able to get hookai?

fossil jolt
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@undone patio 2823 coins 😱

marsh flume
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Is it possible to get makugan and volthar?

rough knot
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Are you guys going for hookuai or volthar? I'm going for Volthar because I only have five thunder monsters

storm rover
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Im going for Hookuai, i need a thunder control but hookuai its really good

gloomy stag
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@dapper wind word on the street is around 7k for makugan, take that for what it's worth, but I believe she will be expensive

dapper wind
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I doubt that. Dunn Ra was 5.7k and Makugan imo is worse than Dunn Ra so Makugan will be more than a monster like cloud but less than a monster like Dunn @gloomy stag

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Not saying Makugan is bad

gloomy stag
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Hopefully I am wrong

sonic wren
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Y’all think I can get Hookuai? I have 2302 maze coins and he costs 11280 with keys if 30 percent discount

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How good is Makugan

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It’s good

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Rated SS+ on viability rankings

delicate iris
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I have 2.9k coins would I be able to get Magukan?

signal nimbus
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do we know which day is makugan available?

fossil jolt
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@delicate iris 2.9k coins 😱

sonic wren
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What is the secret path monster

haughty flame
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It’s Magugan @sonic wren

sonic wren
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Thx

sonic wren
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lol

atomic charm
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That's what they all say

near haven
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:(

atomic charm
sonic wren
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Warn here when there is a discount in the maze?

atomic charm
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Prolly

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30% definitely. Maybe

near haven
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They put it in announcements too

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Going for hookuai?

sonic wren
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Yes 😃

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But it's a bit fair

sonic wren
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Do I even have a chance at a legendary? So far I only have 400 coins 😅

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And copycat?

fathom mist
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When secret path will coming in..?

sonic wren
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in some days 😃

fathom mist
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how much coin for her..?

azure lotus
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No one knows that, gotta wait for that when the path is on

sonic wren
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I guess less than 6000 chips

azure lotus
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Save at least 3k at least for it . . . Although probably her cost could be in the 3K-5K range

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Just assuming

young oyster
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So Makuguan is secret path?

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That would be awesome

fossil jolt
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Can a person get a new relesed monster after getting secret path monster ..!???

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I think probably " not "

obtuse ice
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maybe

cobalt nest
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When Makugan is released, will it be announced here? Will the mods @ everyone so I’ll get a notification? Just asking if I need to check my game every hour or something 😅

minor stream
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they will probaly

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they did it with dunn ra

sonic wren
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@cobalt nest "expect the unexpected"

cobalt nest
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Lmao

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They normally release stuff, start new events at 3am my time. I might miss the start of Makugan 😞

sonic wren
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@cobalt nest "don't be sad that it ended, be happy that it happened"

high birch
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Guys where you find the info of the game?

minor stream
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if you guys are low on maze coins. you guys can try to farm the breeding event. gives 75 maze coins every attempt and 250 if you get the legendary one.

cobalt nest
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Yea sounds nice but I don’t have the parents. Only have Nemestrius ☹️

wicked oasis
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no galante?

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oof

cobalt nest
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Nope 😩

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Every time there’s a breeding event, I have to sit out because they want monsters I don’t have. Grrrr

glossy relic
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I feel you @cobalt nest

cobalt nest
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Ah well. One day. One day... I will be able to participate in ALL events. I hope 😅

haughty flame
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10% discount!

oblique whale
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Makugan

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Is here

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:)

fossil jolt
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Limited time path is up

oblique whale
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Yeah

haughty flame
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Is 3000 maze coin with 10% discount enough?

minor stream
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no

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i think it cost 3801

haughty flame
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How do you know?

minor stream
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without spins and maze coins gotten from its path

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just sandboxed it

haughty flame
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This is risky...

minor stream
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wait it cost more then 3880

obtuse ice
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makugans out

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around 4k cojns with 10%

wicked oasis
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^

haughty flame
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Captain Legend and Karasu takes 5000

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How can E cost less than L?

cobalt nest
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Is 10% the only discount we get? Or there’ll be more discounts later?

near haven
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30% is always a thing

minor stream
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i might take the chance on a 20% or 30%

cobalt nest
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For Makugan I mean

oblique whale
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:(

near haven
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Oh i did'nt even notice she was already out

sonic wren
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Rip

haughty flame
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Wow tempbog how many did it take?

near haven
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How much did it cost?

oblique whale
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Around 3500

minor stream
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umh no

peak wharf
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Is that the last node left tempbog?

minor stream
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i had 3800

oblique whale
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Yeah

near haven
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wow you collected alot lmao

cobalt nest
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Yea she’s only here for 2 days. Anyone knows if we’ll get more discounts for her later, if I miss this 10% now?

minor stream
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and didnt get it

crimson atlas
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@oblique whale you can get it

haughty flame
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@oblique whale thank you so much I’m burnin coins

oblique whale
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4000

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Is the total cost

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For the 10%

near haven
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Oof i am going for hookuai

fathom mist
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GOGOGO

peak wharf
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Nice. At same node as you now tempbog 😃

strong shore