maze-islands

[covert heath]

no

[steady coral]

nah imo

[shut oxide]

4 quid?

[steady coral]

English slang for Four Pounds, or £4 @shut oxide

[shut oxide]

Oh, then definitely not worth it 😄

I got the egg quite easily for free, so no need to pay

[fervent breach]

Oh, i had no idea what quid meant in that context because the only meaning of quid i know is "what"

[covert heath]

"for four"

It's so weird to say that

[autumn coral]

argh i need one more collect to get iggy

[unborn surge]

Got Igursus. But looks like I'll have to give up on hackster.

[sonic wren]

too soon man

[steady coral]

England is a very weird place. 😛

[dense spoke]

lmao its just a slang

[steady coral]

england has a lot of awkward slang..

[covert heath]

agreed with Glistas

[strong shore]

And sayings. 🤔

[fair linden]

Got igursus in last minute.... Pheww...

[steady coral]

Really lucky, congratulations!!

[fair linden]

Seriously feeling lucky... Thunder eagle breeding and hatching finished in the last 3 minute time which gave me 100 coins required to move that last step of igursus egg

[hidden quail]

Should we have the last maze now? Or in 1 hour

[unborn surge]

1 hour I think

[hidden quail]

Ok thanks

[pine scaffold]

yep

[wide scroll]

So... Path coins you get depend on your level?

[steady coral]

no.

they;re the same at level 5 and level 105

if you're not getting 225 each time then you're not doing it properly

[wide scroll]

Each time?

[steady coral]

each collect in full should grant 225. doesn't increase nor decrease, it's fixed

[wide scroll]

Collect what? Only Food & gold?

[steady coral]

no

you need to:
Feed food to monsters (30)
Collect food from farms (50)
Collect Gold From Habitats (30)
Breed thunder eagle (50)
Hatch Thunder eagle, place or selling. doesn't matter which monster you use, but thunder eagle is 4 hours (50)
Win a PVP match. wars won't count (15, + extra 50 if lucky)

@wide scroll

[craggy ore]

Extra 50 on longer mazes

[wide scroll]

Every 4 hours I guess

[craggy ore]

Yes but at the start you have the pool full

If you do it right you can collect all these in the start and reset the pools

[wide scroll]

What do you mean by pool?

[craggy ore]

Breed and hatch has 4 hours pool

Resets the obtainable points every 4h

[wide scroll]

Okay it's like a "regen" time to obtain coins

[craggy ore]

For food and fold i usually collect every hour, or as much as i can

Yea

[wide scroll]

And can we get coins from food every hour?

[craggy ore]

As I experience part of it, yes

[wide scroll]

Same for gold I guess

[craggy ore]

After 1 h food i run a 30 sec because the full collect works with 15 collections

And we have 14 farms

Yes

[steady coral]

it all regenerates gradually but it's better to collect a full pool imo

and i run 1h food and get a full 30

[wide scroll]

Thanks guys I understand better

So, you grab eggs each path?

[craggy ore]

Hackster should start tomorrow

[fossil anvil]

Hackster started already

[raw flower]

How much coins do u start with again?.

[wide scroll]

150 o 180 I don't remember exactly

[fossil anvil]

150

[raw flower]

Ty

[fossil anvil]

Yw

[raw flower]

R u huys having trouble with getting the hatching & breeding coins

I get nothing from breeding and I get 1 or 2 for hatching

[steady coral]

@raw flower don't buy eggs. only works if it was bred or came from an event. also keep trying, should have a full pool

[raw flower]

Breeding pandeken/firesaur rgt now

[steady coral]

keep going..

[fresh berry]

OMG Jesus is asking I thought he knows everything even what I am thinking now

[fast plover]

@steady coral food farm 50
Gold 30

[steady coral]

👍 thanks

[covert heath]

I'm not getting coins from feeding...

I fed my lvl 1 newly hatched Burotgot to 15 and only got 2 coins

[steady coral]

restart game if youre missing coins

[covert heath]

its lvl 40 still no coins

[steady coral]

@covert heath did you restart your game?

[covert heath]

yep

fed it to level 40

only got 4 coins

[steady coral]

try another monster...

[sonic wren]

Breed Firesaurs pandakens Treezard... Feed them to 10 lv then sell

[covert heath]

I'll do it but not now. Both hatchery and breeding mounts in use

[sonic wren]

Try feeding him once waiting 30 seconds then trying again

[hearty quail]

Cost of Hackstèr is 2545

[gloomy harness]

Ty panda

[sonic wren]

Thank u Panda

[gloomy harness]

Samee

[raw flower]

Who is gonna get hackster by f2p?

[shut oxide]

Me 😃

[gloomy harness]

Me

Well attempt

[raw flower]

I got school so Im gonna be scrwed

I wish it was 10 collection for the last monter

[gloomy harness]

I'm still on holiday 😁

[raw flower]

So I could skip 2 and sleep

[shut oxide]

Can't you do it during pauses? Doing a full collection is like 4 minutes ...

[raw flower]

I can do collection in school

Its just I will lose 2 collection because I have to go to school

As I have to sleep

I miss the cost of the first mazes

[gloomy harness]

What does collection mean?

As in this game

I'm 15 away from hackster atm

[raw flower]

Collections refers to one collecting the coins for the maze every 4hours

[gloomy harness]

Oh I just collect it every 10mins

I have nothing else to do 😢

[fluid jacinth]

all pools have a 4h cooldown so there isnt a point of doing it every 10 minutes KevDawg

unless you're like me, that constantly messes with his pool counting, and uses 50 firesaur hatching and breeding cause your thunder eagle hatching doesnt work :P

[gloomy harness]

That's me haha

I'm not patient when I see the gold icon I'm like ooooo money.

[craggy ore]

How much for the egg?

[gloomy harness]

2545

Apparently

[craggy ore]

Thats alot

Okey then, meet you at 6 am :D

[bright blade]

how much for the scroll?

[steady coral]

2315 or so @bright blade

[gloomy harness]

I'm so impatient lol

[late thunder]

lol

[fossil jolt]

Where to get lord of atlantis for makugan quest...???

[sonic wren]

by breeding him...

[fast plover]

Too late btw

[sonic wren]

this is why gems exist

:))

[ornate nebula]

Has the diagram of the rewards on Hatcher maze been posted?

[sonic wren]

nop

it takes time to make

[fossil jolt]

Hackster path is going to difficult to get ...!

Also there is makugan quest started ...... can't understand What i do ....?

[raw flower]

Yep

[fervent breach]

you mean burotgor not mountezuma?

[fossil jolt]

@sonic wren i dont have loa...!

[red skiff]

Anyone know how much for hacksters

[narrow tundra]

It’s 2545 for the egg 😃

[red skiff]

😱 😱 😱

Lol I probably won't make it then

[narrow tundra]

It requires a lot of commitment! 😅

[red skiff]

I'm at 1400 barely made it to Iggy's scroll

[narrow tundra]

I haven’t made the last two scrolls. My sleep schedule is too important 😂

[red skiff]

I'm tired lol

[gloomy harness]

I've been waking up every night

😴

I'm tired now lol

[outer wing]

I'm at 1400 too, not gonna happen 😅 well I'll buy the rest of his cells if he appears next time there's cell week lol

[red skiff]

I just want the scroll

[outer wing]

Yeah, true...

[gloomy harness]

I'm 5 steps away 🎉

[craggy ore]

4 steps 😺

[shut oxide]

All steps 😂

[pine scaffold]

so im very late but been busy

[ornate nebula]

Thanks!!!

[gloomy harness]

Tysm I really need that

Argh I can still get it but I'll have to stay up

[raw flower]

can someone check how much time is left on the veent

event*

[gloomy harness]

@raw flower

15h 45m

[fossil jolt]

Which warmaster is best post elvira....???

[raw flower]

Necromancer probably

[fossil jolt]

Okk. Thanks

What does area evasion at the start of the battle mean....????

[wise prairie]

gives evasion to all ally monsters at the start of the battle

[amber tapir]

Wow, I think I'll get the scroll after all, yay! Just need a time machine!

[unborn surge]

Wow, I'll get the egg too. Just had to wake up in middle of my sleep

[sonic wren]

I'm 80 coins away from scroll probably gonna get it and Hackster

[gloomy harness]

Same I have to stay up

[gloomy harness]

I'm like really close to the scroll round about 4h and 30m I'll get hackster 😁

[strong shore]

That’s great news. 🎇🎆👍🏻

[gloomy harness]

But I have to set multiple alarms cus one alarm doesn't wake me up

[shut oxide]

I'll get extra 10 cells too

I jave 80 coins right now and I'm right before the egg. Two more collections and done.

[covert heath]

only 5 hrs left tho

[sonic wren]

Got him now I can sleep

[gloomy harness]

I'm close

Just gotta wait 40mins till I get him

[sonic wren]

Good luck

[quick ledge]

What does the scroll give you?

[sonic wren]

If you get all 4 you get some nice level 7 runes

[gloomy harness]

0 so far was too lazy on the other events to stay up all night

[sonic wren]

Well good night and good luck not falling asleep

[shut oxide]

More than 5 hours left and the next collection is in 47 minutes

[gloomy harness]

Good luck

[gloomy harness]

Yus I can finally sleep

[fair linden]

I have got the 4th scroll... Need only 100 more coins to get hackster.... Which is very possible in next 4 hours... 👯

[raw flower]

I need to get like 400 coins

Nvm

I need 230 and I have 48 rgt now

[fossil jolt]

You guys are awesome....

I haven't get scroll yet...

[covert heath]

same

bcz i have skool...

[raw flower]

I had to wake up at 4 to collect

[shut oxide]

Me too, but it was worth it.

[raw flower]

Yep

[fossil jolt]

Hey, someone has necromancer warmaster....???

He ressurect one enemy with 1% life, double damage, and possessed ...!!

It means for this move, it is compulsory for the enemy to die

[shut oxide]

And after it's turn it dies again

[fossil jolt]

If all three enemy alives then this move is waste...???

[shut oxide]

You can't use it if they are all alive

Ahem ...

[fossil jolt]

Another warmaster

After elvira.

[shut oxide]

Please edit that word

[fossil jolt]

Another warmaster.......?????

[shut oxide]

😑

[fossil jolt]

Do you have warmasters....???

[shut oxide]

Yes, I have three

Two of them ranked

[fossil jolt]

Which three...???

[shut oxide]

Gortak, Necromancer, Elvira

[fossil jolt]

I have a question....!

If elvira applies evasion at the start of battle ... Then kihaku can possess elvira and her team members or not...?????

[shut oxide]

No he can't

Evasion protects you from (almost) everything, unless it's removed

[fossil jolt]

Okkk, thanks for the information.

[fast plover]

[fossil jolt]

Does sting westclaw attacks on every extra turn of voltaik...????

[sonic wren]

Yes but wrong channel

[unborn surge]

So, how to get the scroll rewards?

[shut oxide]

Okay, let's see

I got all

I'm tired, though 😄

Did you get the scroll at least?

[dim rampart]

Does anybody know when the next event starts?

[unborn surge]

does opening the rewards during rune lords challenge add to the score?

[shut oxide]

What's the next event?

I think it should add to the points and I hate you for reminding me about that 😄

I opened them all 😄

The lvl 1-2 rune chests? 😄

Me neither

[pine scaffold]

the main event is still on

its the progressive

[shut oxide]

151 gems left on the 35 cells node. Doable? (I know it's off-topic)

[steady coral]

probably :/

[pine scaffold]

lol

[autumn coral]

when's the maze? i got a notif qbout it.

[bright blade]

should be at 32m

[covert heath]

maybe

[bright blade]

should, doesnt mean it will

[narrow tundra]

Maze is live! Garuda M3 -> Skeel Trooper -> Sir Francis Rock -> Himass -> Privateer Morgan -> Zameleon -> Grumpex

[lapis gale]

isnt garuda breedable lol?

also can someone give me maze tips havent done a maze in ages

[narrow tundra]

He is yeh lol

[robust vector]

What’s the secret path

Is it al Caine?

[narrow tundra]

The "info" says captain copperbeard. Might not be true though

[bright blade]

SP will still not be useful and release official discount times

[lapis gale]

do i start getting exo skeel or save for copperbeard

i have 160

[narrow tundra]

Use all you can in this discount. The path for Copperbeard will probably be cheap enough that you can get it and another monster 😃

So might as well move while everythings at its cheapest!

[lapis gale]

yeah im bad at mazes so i might not be able to get copperbeard

[pine scaffold]

do your collecting and farming every 4 hours breed a thunder eagle

do pvp

225 cins can be obtained every 4 hours

[lapis gale]

my breeding tree is still occupied

also im breeding firesaur and treesaur
do i sell them instantly?

what they breed
like a pandaken

[pine scaffold]

place them in your habitat

you can also spam firesaur treezard you get the 50 coins also

but its more work

50 + 50

[lapis gale]

i do spam them but i get 1 coin from selling pandakens in my hatchery

[pine scaffold]

from breeding and hatching

I thought you were making pandanken farms?

but anyway placing them or selling them both give coins

[lapis gale]

i was making them
but i sold some for 1 coin

[pine scaffold]

dont you get the coin also from placing

now I have to go

[lapis gale]

idk

[pine scaffold]

i know

[brazen token]

Zameleon seems better than Grumpy

[fast plover]

[grand hinge]

Any good monster in this maze?

Good as Al Canine, Cain etc, not "just fine"

[still wigeon]

With how many coins ù start

230?

[vagrant trellis]

150

[livid river]

Any idea on discount times yet please

[covert heath]

I used all my coins 50 are left. I'll start saving up now for the secret path. Is Al Canine the secret monster?

[gloomy harness]

Wait secret path? What path

[covert heath]

There is a secret path every maze. It costs about anywhere from 2 - 5k. It appears mostly near the end of the maze.

[brazen token]

@covert heath Captain Copperbeard

[covert heath]

Is he good?

[gloomy harness]

How do you know

[covert heath]

from there

I don't think that is allowed so I'll delete it

[gloomy harness]

Anyone got full map of the event?

[covert heath]

go to taringa

[tacit elk]

Can anyone @ me when we have the prices for the monsters?

[narrow tundra]

Costs including keys, at 0% discount:
Garuda M3: 2545
Skeel Trooper: 5290
Sir Francis Rock: 8830
Himass: 11390
Privateer Morgan: 14065
Zameleon: 15760
Grumpex: 17835

[covert heath]

Just as always, getting no legendaries except the hidden one

[dense spoke]

lmao mate thats ur fault

getting the legendaries is pretty easy

[tacit elk]

Thanks sonnor

@narrow tundra. Thats cheaper then last maze isnt it?

[narrow tundra]

Significantly yes

[tacit elk]

Great

Sp you did good

[fervent breach]

yeah, the maze seems to be exactly the same except the costs are lower, the cells and the monsters are different and the soul hugger items were replaced

[narrow tundra]

and the bit after the egg for the new monsters is new

As in the format, not that it exists 😄

[tacit elk]

Sonnor wich one do you want?

The earth or light?

[narrow tundra]

I dunno. I usually make my decision about 1 day before the end once I know how many coins i'll have

[fervent breach]

Wouldn't it be better to make a random maze generator than literally copying the previous maze?

i might make one after i make the costs

then again

do i want mazes do be original

if they are a copy-paste making costs is faster

so i'm not so sure about making a random maze generator

[narrow tundra]

Double edged sword. I'm happy with the keys in the same places, less mistakes from me!

[wide scroll]

Do we already know hidden monster?

[storm glacier]

Someone knows when there are discount s

[pine scaffold]

according to Taringa its Capt Copperbeard but things can change

[rich nebula]

does anyone have the discount times?

[sonic wren]

not yet

[gloomy harness]

Questions how do you get the secret monster and how much is it?

[steady coral]

@rich nebula nobody knows.

@gloomy harness we do not get leaked costs. they only get given to us by youtubers who manually go through the path. However, if you scroll up, Mari said what the monster is...

[gloomy harness]

I'm just wondering the average tbh so I know how much to save up and if to stay up

[lusty copper]

the secret path is usually around 5k

less most of the time

[steady coral]

no it is not usually around 5k...

It's usually 3, the last one was 4k but that was because the costs were really high.

[fair linden]

@gloomy harness... It's not exactly secret monster... It's a 2 days path which appears in maze during half time.... It costs 3-5k coins

It's secret only till it appears... Just like any other event...

[steady coral]

Sometimes it can appear right at the ends too.

[gloomy harness]

Ty

[lament eagle]

“Grumpex Charge!” In the wiki says “Gives 1 extra turn to one ally. Applies Double Damage to itself. Requires cooldown.”. Is that really correct? Does it give the double damage to ITSELF?

[steady coral]

yes, i doubt it's anorther demise..

[lament eagle]

😯

[gloomy harness]

When's the discount?

[tacit elk]

@narrow tundra can you resend the prices of the ranked monster like r1 and r2?

And sorry for @

[narrow tundra]

I don’t have the prices of the ranked monsters.

Never worked them out lol

[tacit elk]

You said r1 and r2

Idk on what server tho

[narrow tundra]

Oh I vaguely worked out Grumpex I think. Don’t have it on hand now.

Mari or Dori will do it somewhen I’m sure 😃

[tacit elk]

XD

Nice boi

[narrow tundra]

Should be able to find it on coalition if needs be 😄

[tacit elk]

I can emote here

[fervent breach]

yeah, for some reason you can emote in events but not in general and you can't send images in events

[sonic wren]

[tacit elk]

[steady coral]

and you can in general

[tacit elk]

[old pike]

anybody know if there is going to be a limited time path monster this maze? if so do we know who it is?

[gloomy harness]

According to the others there will be a limited time path. The monster may be Capt Copper beard however it may change.

@old pike

[old pike]

thanks

[autumn coral]

is capt copper good

[sonic wren]

He has an AoE stun, AoE burn, Single Bleed and AoA CDD as well as the mountain trait. I'd say he's good.

[robust vector]

@narrow tundra what does cost including keys mean like its the price to unlock just that monster

Like do you understand what i am saying? like do i get all the monsters if i get 18k maze coins is that enough to unlock everything?

[fair linden]

It means it's the total cost... Unlock plus getting the monster...
Cost only for that specific monster... Not all monsters @robust vector

[robust vector]

ty

and is there a 30% discount at the end or during the first hour of the secert path

will there be another?

like last maze

[fair linden]

Don't know

[robust vector]

and is it just for the egg or cells too for the total price

[fair linden]

Till egg

Discount times are available.... I can't post pic here

[robust vector]

dm me it

please

[sonic wren]

Cost with keys means it is total cost for monster (with unlocking him)

We dont know if there will be 30% i the end of maze. It can be 20% as well

[late thunder]

@fair linden send me plz

[steady coral]

Y'all should join Community. We have that all pinned up.

[narrow tundra]

Maze Coin dungeon is live!

[sharp solstice]

Does anyone know which monster will have the secret path in z maze?

[fossil jolt]

How is himass.....???

[brazen token]

@sharp solstice captain copper beard

[pine scaffold]

credit @azure lotus

nothing to do with maze please in general or monster discussion

[fair linden]

Waiting for detailed chart... It really helps to know the position of keys...

[covert heath]

Waiting for someone to tell me how far I have to go to unlock the first legendary

[pine scaffold]

@fair linden i will do my best but its lots of work

[covert heath]

Lets all donate €10 to Mari for her hard work

[pine scaffold]

no money its time i want so donate time

[covert heath]

Lets all help Mari!

Okay I'll give you a watch

Did my part

[fervent breach]

the position of the keys is exactly the same as last maze(like i said, "the maze seems to be exactly the same except the costs are lower, the cells and the monsters are different and the soul hugger items were replaced"), though there was no detailed chart for last maze so that doesn't really help

[covert heath]

don't even remeber the last keys

It was like a month ago

[hollow void]

How much should I spend and how can I get keys to unlock the first legendary??

[shut oxide]

I'm taking a break and going for the limited path monster only. In the meantime I need to breed Gastqosquish (a lot of them).

[covert heath]

same but why Gastosquish?

[shut oxide]

Beginner book

Need rank 4 and 5 and the whole book is done

[covert heath]

Cool, I have completed none of the R1 stages

😂

Let me do them

Gotta request cells for those

[shut oxide]

Luckily I stockpiled a few thousand cells for the other monsters ... except Gastosquish ...

[covert heath]

Lucky

I wish I had sasquash

I could have completed the Polar Book stage 3

[shut oxide]

I missed the last page

[covert heath]

I tried getting it from the starter chest but no luck

[fair linden]

Don't put the cost for each node on the chart, only put position of items and keys...
Each node cost doesn't matter... Only total cost matters which is already posted....
@pine scaffold

[pine scaffold]

thats not the most work for me

[fervent breach]

isn't putting the node costs the easiest part?

you don't need any images

mari puts images for items which i'd assume takes the most time

[pine scaffold]

its the checking if all is in correct place

and some like the costs so they know exactly how much left on some paths to make the most of it

[covert heath]

just check from xgameplay

[pine scaffold]

lol I know

although I use Valkyrie for this one

[covert heath]

cool

I don't watch him tho

[fair linden]

Ohk

[narrow tundra]

You tend to collect the data for each node to make the total cost anyway 😃

[lapis gale]

how much will copperbeard cost?

1.9k atm

[pine scaffold]

Lol no prob more than 3000

[still wigeon]

I calculated all the necessary coins to get Privateer morgan and the resul without discounts la 14390 coins

So maybe the others counts are wrong too

[rich nebula]

Yea they seemed pretty off to me too

[still wigeon]

I counted all the necessary coins to get all the Keys to unlock Privateer morgan and obv to obtain it

[rich nebula]

Not bc of that but bc if you kept to schedule you’d be able to get every single monster without spending real money and SP would never do that 😂😂

[still wigeon]

I did it 2 times so in not wrong :p

[rich nebula]

wait how’d you count that?

[still wigeon]

With 20% of discount it all costs 11512

With calculator and the showed maze

On youtube

[rich nebula]

Also (unless my math is wrong) if you completely maximized your coin gathering you’d easily be able to get Grumpex even w/o discounts

[still wigeon]

Nop

[rich nebula]

Altho I’m running on 1.5 hours of sleep rn so there’s a pretty good chance I didn’t do something right 😂

[still wigeon]

Woah

[rich nebula]

why not?

[still wigeon]

I counted 8 hours of sleep

[fervent breach]

Well, i got the same results as Sonnor

So i doubt he's wrong

[still wigeon]

225 coins every 4 hours, in 16 hours are 900 coins

[rich nebula]

What’d Sonnor get

[still wigeon]

For 14 days are 12600

Plus the starting 150monete 12750

[rich nebula]

There are 24 hours in a day...

Not 16

[still wigeon]

I counted 8 hours of sleep

As a normal pearson

...

[fervent breach]

If you have a bit less than 8 hours of sleep then you can do 5 collections a day

Let's say you for example go to sleep at 11pm and wake up at 7am

[still wigeon]

You die after 2 weeks

Ahahaha

[fervent breach]

You'd do a collection at 7am, 11am, 3pm, 7pm and 11pm

[still wigeon]

Meh

[rich nebula]

Well I did my math for someone who’s fine w/ setting alarms and waking up to collect so I counted 6 collections

[fervent breach]

Then of course there are people who set alarms in the middle of the night to wake up for like 5 minutes to do their last collection

[rich nebula]

^^^

[still wigeon]

@fervent breach u arriva at 15900

[rich nebula]

I’ve done that before tbh

[still wigeon]

ill people...

[rich nebula]

And if you somehow managed to start collecting right when this kicked off you could get 18,900 coins

Granted I’ve never done this for other races so I’m not sure how much different this is from the norm but I feel like SP wouldn’t let this be possible

[still wigeon]

Meh do what you want:p

[fossil jolt]

Isn't this maze island seems to be expensive.

???

[pine scaffold]

it is @rich nebula possible I believe you can make about 22275 gems this is taken dungeons and mw into account and some free spins + perfect collection

[rich nebula]

ok, thanks for confirming! are the costs correct too?

[fallow marsh]

uh, mari, you mean coins, right? 😅

[sonic wren]

I'll take 22275 gems

[fallow marsh]

^

[sonic wren]

How many maze coins you guys got?

[gloomy harness]

Over 2k atm

U?

[sonic wren]

3.2k

[gloomy harness]

Damn

Good. Job

[sonic wren]

Who are you going for

[gloomy harness]

The special atm

I'm trying to get 7k at least then I need to start breeding new monsters for mp

Cus I'm lvl 26 with 500 mp lol

[sonic wren]

Well the cheapest legendary is 11k (no discount)

[wintry bear]

but

you have to get the keys beforehand

[sonic wren]

But the limited time is lower

[wintry bear]

im trying to figure out how much that would cost in total

[sonic wren]

11k is with keys I think

[wintry bear]

oh really?

[sonic wren]

Pretty sure

[wintry bear]

well, i think it would be best to jut go for captain copperhead when theres a discount

[sonic wren]

Limited time path is usually 3-5k coins and usually a decent monster

[wintry bear]

apparently its captain copperhead

idk

[sonic wren]

They could change that as it's not confirmed

[gloomy harness]

I'll take any legendary

Sorta new 3 legendaries

Which are sting 3 runes, hackster 2 runes and yntec 3 runes

[sonic wren]

If you get pestilence traps for Yntec it will help so so much early game but you need to be level 30 I think

[gloomy harness]

Yup only lvl 26

[fair linden]

Keys in path :
Privateer 2
Zameleon 1
Skeel 5
Garuda 5
Francis 4
Himass 3
...
So you can stop progressing each monster after getting these number of keys if you are targeting the next one...
For example... For Grumpex, if you have just enough coins to get him, don't move other monsters any extra step after getting all the keys in their path ...

[wintry bear]

@gloomy harness what legendaries do you have?

[gloomy harness]

@wintry bear sting westclaw, hackster and yntec

[wintry bear]

wow, youve got some really good legendaries and youre only lv 26 lol

[gloomy harness]

Thanks haha

[covert heath]

Can someone send me the map of the maze? Including the monsters with keys

and send me the link of taringa

I can't find the link somehow

[fair linden]

https://forums.socialpointgames.com/topic/11278/galactic-expedition-maze/2

[nimble glacier]

Wt would be the limited time path monster

[atomic pulsar]

Captain Copperbeard

@nimble glacier

[still wigeon]

How many coins have ù got?

[keen cargo]

Discount times?

[dense spoke]

ye any discounttimes?

[odd void]

Any hidden path for current maze?

[atomic pulsar]

Captain Copperbeard

[pine scaffold]

according to Taringa

[paper flare]

yes

thats good

[autumn coral]

When

I just got a notif for it

[narrow tundra]

I get Captain Copperbeard to cost 3240 with no discount

[hasty laurel]

Oh ok :)

[quick ledge]

Will there be a discount on captain copperbeards path?

[narrow tundra]

Probably. It's 2 days covering week days, and there's normally a discount every week day

[quick ledge]

What would the discount be?

Like how much percent

[narrow tundra]

Almost certainly 10%

[quick ledge]

Oh I don't think I'll make it then

[narrow tundra]

Would reduce his cost to 2905

[quick ledge]

Only have 2700 atm

[narrow tundra]

You can get 200 in 2 days easy! Its 225 coins possible every 4 hours 😃

[quick ledge]

I'm always quite unlucky and I'm only level 28

What's a good strategy to get maze coins

[narrow tundra]

Breed and hatch thunder eagles, and make sure to collect gold/food and feed monsters every 4 hours 😃

[bright blade]

sometimes the first discount is also 30%

[quick ledge]

Hmm okay thanks guys

I just realized monsterwood has maze coins so got 400 from there

[narrow tundra]

Perfect, you'll make it then 😃

[warm garnet]

Does anyone know how much Captain Copperbeard will cost to get out?

[bright blade]

just a few lines up

3240

[quick ledge]

Does anyone know when exactly the discount for captain copperbeard would be? Haha sorry I'm excited because it would be my second legendary

[bright blade]

5hr from now

[quick ledge]

That's when I would sleep

How long will the discount last?

[bright blade]

one hour

there is another one tomorrow

[quick ledge]

Is the other one at the same time as well?

Because that would be 2 am for me

[bright blade]

even later

3 am

[quick ledge]

Crap, this game isn't very time zone friendly lol

[sonic wren]

Hey guys.

[quick ledge]

Well there goes my hopes of getting captain copperbeard

[sonic wren]

How much maze coins do i need to get caption copperbeard??

[quick ledge]

3240

[sonic wren]

Cool😎

Thankyou

[fossil jolt]

Hey, will there be any discount in copperbeard path.

[sonic wren]

No

Thats a hidden monster. Will not be any discount on him

[fossil jolt]

Ooo. Okk thanks.

[sonic wren]

No problem🍎

In this chat I've seen people saying that there will be a discount on copperbeard and people saying that won't. How is it then?

[fossil jolt]

Last maze had no discount for kihaku... Then it is possible that this time also there will be no discount

[sonic wren]

Makes sense, thanks. There was this guy before that said there'll be a discount in 5h, so just gonna wait to see if that happens

[unborn surge]

There was a 30% discount for kihaku if I'm not wrong

[still wigeon]

Total there ls a discount

Today*

[autumn coral]

when

tell in hours please

[still wigeon]

18-19 utc

There Will be a discount per day till 25 genuary

Then from 28 to 31 gen

[autumn coral]

hours plss

[still wigeon]

Go on google and search utc hours

In my country is from 19 to 20

[fossil jolt]

Where are you from...???

[autumn coral]

so its 1:36 pm in utc

how many hours

[warm garnet]

I can confirm Captain Copperbeard costs around 3240

Just got him

[still wigeon]

I got al canine and alex bone, i dont need another denier

I'll go for a pure attacker like morgan

[lucid rose]

I just got captain copperbeard, I've heard that He's a good attacker/ denier

[bright blade]

he is good, although unranked monsters arent that good nowadays

[green mist]

Mazes for dummies | Social Point Forums

https://forums.socialpointgames.com/topic/11291/mazes-for-dummies/2

[wheat trellis]

When is the next discount on maze

[languid cipher]

I believe the next discount is 18:00 UTC +0

[wheat trellis]

Thanks

[hazy dragon]

how long the copperbeard path last? I am low on coins, around 1800now...

[hearty quail]

It's around 3k

[covert heath]

Just watch MW @hazy dragon and do the breeding and hatching every 4 hours. You'll get 100 coins every 4 hours

[raw flower]

When is the discount times?

[pine scaffold]

@fossil jolt there is a discount forhim

Its in 1,5 hour @raw flower

[covert heath]

forhim...

I guess autocorrect?

[outer jolt]

is the 30% discount random @pine scaffold

[raw flower]

@pine scaffold ty

[pine scaffold]

yes it is no schedule

sometimes SP does a suprise 30 somewhere

[outer jolt]

look like always against my sleeping schedule

[pine scaffold]

they seem to always start with a 30 at the beginning

and often end with a 20 but nothing is sure

[outer jolt]

thanks, I will save some for the last

[covert heath]

Mostly the discounts are like that

[fallow marsh]

could someone tell me what time the discount is today in pst?

[scarlet spoke]

Cooperbeard cost 3030 no discount and 9 gems no gold relic

Copper

[median flame]

how much coins for copperboard?

i think i have less for him

i have near 2.6k

[covert heath]

You need around 3.1k

@median flame

[narrow tundra]

3240 to be precise

[pine scaffold]

@here 10% discount

[rustic grotto]

Yay

[burnt dove]

gracias

[pine scaffold]

get that copperbeard

[wraith haven]

Thank you 😀

[minor herald]

oh yeah thanks

[sonic wren]

I already got Copperbeard before the discount :(

[gaunt spoke]

@pine scaffold yeeeeeeee boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

[indigo onyx]

[simple lantern]

Around 2900 coins with discount

[pine scaffold]

noooooo not a boi

[minor herald]

ive got like 5K

[tropic panther]

I can't find da ping

Nvm i found it

I thought it was so far above

[gaunt spoke]

bruh

[storm glacier]

Someone knows to get both zameleon and grumpex?

What the price is

[atomic pulsar]

33,595

[storm glacier]

Ty

[atomic pulsar]

Np

[fallow marsh]

can someone send me a picture of the full map so i can get neobuki cells?

[narrow tundra]

@still wigeon you can’t post Taringa here. You’re welcome to DM it though

[still wigeon]

Ok sorry

[worldly needle]

damn im issed that disount

[gloomy harness]

Just realised I bought copper beard full price...

[sonic wren]

🤦

[gloomy harness]

It's fine I wasn't planning to get the other legendaries

I'll go for the rare 😂

[fallow marsh]

can someone tell me how much Sir Francis Rock and Himass cost during a discount?

Seperately please

[atomic pulsar]

With a 10% discount? @fallow marsh

[fallow marsh]

i got an answer already

but thanks

[atomic pulsar]

Ok

You going to try for them?

[fallow marsh]

just sir francis

unless i try really hard

[atomic pulsar]

Oh ok

I'm guessing you got Copper?

[fallow marsh]

id need about 10k at for me to get both

ye

i might be able to

[atomic pulsar]

I need 9k more for Zameleon

So we are in about the same situation

[fallow marsh]

how much zam with a 10% discount?

[atomic pulsar]

Let me do math

14,184

[fallow marsh]

oof

goodluck getting that

[atomic pulsar]

Currently at 5.4k

If i cant make it I'll go for Morgan

[vagrant trellis]

Anyone know the price for getting both Zameleon and Grumpex, as it's not adding the 2 costs together as they share key costs.

[atomic pulsar]

33,595

[vagrant trellis]

Else Zameleon cost without keys and I can work it out

It's less than that

[atomic pulsar]

Idk cost without keys

I cant post pic

It's 15,760 + 17,835

[narrow tundra]

2 secs mamamonster

[vagrant trellis]

Cost would be Grumpex with keys + Zameleon without keys

Thanks

[fervent breach]

28290

[vagrant trellis]

Thanks, brilliant

[fervent breach]

Mama that's not true

[narrow tundra]

Damn Dori beat me too it 😜

[fervent breach]

Because zameleon without keys also includes the first few steps required to get grumpex key

[vagrant trellis]

I got them the wrong way around

[narrow tundra]

It’s Zameleon with keys + Grumpex without keys + 3 nodes on both Himass and Morgan

[fervent breach]

Zameleon without keys is 10580, grumpex without keys is 12105

[vagrant trellis]

Had it it my mind Zameleon was last

[fervent breach]

It still wouldn't work

Like sonnor said you need 3 nodes on himass and Morgan

[vagrant trellis]

Yep, true, forgot about key order in other paths

Too much missed sleep

[indigo smelt]

what paths have Zameleon keys

[atomic pulsar]

^

I need to know too Imo

[tacit elk]

Any price for rank?

[fallow marsh]

how many keys does zam need @atomic pulsar

[atomic pulsar]

6

[fallow marsh]

and how many does grumpex need?

[atomic pulsar]

Nvm 5 for Zam

6 dor Grumpex

[fallow marsh]

a key for zam on garuda, the skeel, sir francis, himass, and privateer morgan

just everyone before zameleon

[atomic pulsar]

K

Now i wait to gather up coins

[fossil jolt]

Hey, did any discount came for copperbeard...???

[sonic wren]

Yea it was like 7 hours ago though

Was 10%

[fossil pecan]

Will there be another discount for copperbeard?

[finite oasis]

Will there be another discount for copperbeard?

[quick ledge]

That's 3 am for me zzz, gonna just get it without the discount then

Will there be any other special hero other than captain copperbeard

[gloomy harness]

Don't think so don't quote me tho

[unborn surge]

So, which legendary in the maze is good? Is grumpex the best as it is the costliest? Or are the cheaper ones any better?

[fervent breach]

Zameleon is the best i think
Morgan is also good

[covert heath]

The higher the price, the better the monster

[still wigeon]

How many coins have you got? Im at 7700 for now...other 4000 and morgan is mine i'd say

[wheat trellis]

How much Morgan costs with discount

[ivory gazelle]

@covert heath Not necessarily. In last maze,Frosilka was most expensive monster,yet her abilities were extremely underwhelming

[steady hare]

How much for copperbeard on discount?

[narrow tundra]

If I remember right, 2905

[steady hare]

Ok thanks

[deft hound]

Vibes of forgetting history test dates come back.

[still wigeon]

@wheat trellis I calculated and with 20% discount should be near to 11000

[wheat trellis]

Damnnnnn that's too much lol

[still wigeon]

Ye hahaha

8 days left i can do it

[wheat trellis]

How much u have?

[still wigeon]

7800

[wheat trellis]

U didn't get cap copper beard?

[still wigeon]

No

I got alex bone and al canine so i dont need another denier for now

[wheat trellis]

Hey bro I was collecting feeding by the difference of 4 hours but didn't get the items for breeding and hatching ..as I remember they needed 5...how did u get all of those

[fast plover]

8 hours for island

[still wigeon]

Dungeon and videos

Then every 4 hours 100 for breeding

Then feed some monsters and collecting food

[wheat trellis]

I'm talking about progressive island

[still wigeon]

Ah

Ok

[fast plover]

[still wigeon]

Lol

[wheat trellis]

How did u get all the items

[still wigeon]

I used gems near the end

The items pool is full every 8 hours

[wheat trellis]

I was doing everything perfect by difference of 4 hours but didn't get complete set

[still wigeon]

Ù gain a piece of gold every 80 mins and a piece of gold every 2 hours

[wheat trellis]

How much gems

[still wigeon]

130 al canine 50 alex

[wheat trellis]

That's a lot lol

Free to play players can't afford them that often lol

[still wigeon]

I just collected gems

Didnt buy

I got lucky cause i obtained 100 gems from gems wheel

[wheat trellis]

Btw alanine is super awesome lol

[still wigeon]

Yep

[wheat trellis]

Gems wheel?what's that

[still wigeon]

I had a gems wheel for like 2 weeks

Cause it was a test so only some Players had it

[wheat trellis]

Ohhhh....u lucky guy

[still wigeon]

Now im waiting for a good support

[wheat trellis]

Nice man....

[buoyant flower]

Does anyone know if there will be another special legendary in the maze after captain copperbeard

[strong shore]

Never before. To my knowledge.

[vagrant trellis]

Happened once before, if I remember right. That's in last 2 years

[still wigeon]

I really hope there Will be other coins videos

[brazen token]

10% discount going on.....

[narrow tundra]

oh is it now... Thanks Xarius 😄

[brazen token]

I guess pinging for maze is not a thing now... I remember back then it was used to be a thing where you @ here for a 10% and @ everyone for 20 or 30%

Good ol days... 😂

[narrow tundra]

@here 10% discount for maze. Last chance to get Copperbeard at a discount!

[thin bridge]

:(

[sonic wren]

got him :p

[thin bridge]

Not cha ce lol

[compact condor]

don't @ me

[jolly lotus]

got him alrerady

[compact condor]

[sonic wren]

I didn't get him this time. Wifi issues.

[narrow tundra]

You can disable it if you don't like it Kiera 😃

[minor herald]

thanks for the ping

[indigo onyx]

@compact condor

[daring cloud]

thx

[civic summit]

Rip already spent all my coins and realised I had no chance

[edgy bloom]

Should I go all in on one of the new monsters or get copperbeard?

[daring cloud]

how much you need?

[willow marten]

Honestly depends on your profile.
Either way, I'd say get Copperbeard and a few other monsters.

[daring cloud]

how much coind for copper?

[narrow tundra]

2905 with a 10% discount

[willow marten]

Ye.

[daring cloud]

i can get that, thx.

oh wow, you can get 10 gems from the pile of gems outcome in the roulette...

[shut oxide]

Already got him so the maze is over for me

[daring cloud]

got him, didn't have him yet so it's nice

[gaunt spoke]

mom get the camera

[fossil jolt]

How much coins are required for grumpex with his all keys....???

[atomic pulsar]

Getting closer to Zameleon

Grumpex is 17,835 with keys

[median flame]

pin the discount time image here

[teal trellis]

I don’t like any of the ,axe monsters, so I quit after I got copper beard

[atomic pulsar]

👌

Didnt get copper, going fo Zameleon instead

[sonic wren]

Got copper Idk who else I'll go for but I'll probably go for Zamelon or the squid

[gloomy harness]

Nice

I got copper beard, the rare and now I'm going for one of the epics

[fair solar]

How many coin required for Morgan with his keys

[tawny spear]

Costs including keys, at 0% discount:
Garuda M3: 2545
Skeel Trooper: 5290
Sir Francis Rock: 8830
Himass: 11390
Privateer Morgan: 14065
Zameleon: 15760
Grumpex: 17835
Credit : sonnorcteer

[fair solar]

@tawny spear Thank you

[shut oxide]

Way too expensive (better than the Aquatic Feast maze, but still too expensive).

[fervent breach]

I don't think it's too expensive

[shut oxide]

It is compared to earlier mazes

2545 for a (breedable) rare ...

[covert heath]

what rare?

oh nvm

[shut oxide]

Garuda M3

It's breedable

[craggy ore]

How many coins do you have?

[covert heath]

1.8k

[craggy ore]

I think ill go for Zameleon, i have 7,2k now

[shut oxide]

Wait for the last discount

That's usually 20%

[brazen token]

@narrow tundra 10% discount :)

[fast plover]

[wheat trellis]

How much does cap Morgan cost....with 10 percent discount....

[covert heath]

1. Find the total cost of it
2. write 10% of "price"
3. Subtract it

@wheat trellis

[steady coral]

doesnt work like that @covert heath

you have to multiply each node by 0.9

[fervent breach]

Well

The difference isn't too big

[narrow tundra]

Thanks Xarius. We don't always ping though, the server is too big 😄

It's 12668 for Morgan at 10% 😉

[steady coral]

3000 people in this server tho lmao

[wheat trellis]

@narrow tundrathank u....what will be cost at 20 percent discount...sorry for my rudeness

[narrow tundra]

11224 at 20%

[wheat trellis]

I calculated the whole amount of days...I can't get cap morgan

How much for him as?

Himass at 10 percent discount

[covert heath]

@steady coral why by 0.9?

I meant write 10% of price on google

forgot to write that

[steady coral]

@covert heath in any fraction, a whole is referred so as "1". one and a half is "1 1/2". And so, 90% of 100% is 90/100, or 0.9/1. so you can just multiply by 0.9.

[covert heath]

ur making my brain hurt

[steady coral]

basically, 100-10 is 90. 90/100=0.9/1. So just multiply it by 0.9 and you have your answer.

[shut oxide]

Okay, what are you guys talking about? 😄

[steady coral]

@shut oxide how to figure out a 10% discount quickest.

[shut oxide]

Ookay

[fervent breach]

And least accurately

[steady coral]

I did say you have to do it to each node to find out the actual cost :/

[fervent breach]

A way better approximation is to take cost without maze coins on path, take 10% away, subtract the maze coins on the path

[steady coral]

but youve already subtracted the maze coins on the path at the start, why do it again

[fervent breach]

I haven't subtracted the maze coins on the path on the start

[willow marten]

This discussion of finding costs is odd.

Isn't all that matters is that we have the costs?

[steady coral]

yep, true..

[dense spoke]

lmao isnt this just basic math

to find 10% just take the value and multiply by 0.9

[tacit elk]

@willow marten do we have the price for r1,2 last monster?

[steady coral]

To find 10% you have to multiply by 0.1.. Youre finding a 10% discount by multiplying by 0.9.

[tacit elk]

Well

Gess ill find out

[dense spoke]

ya but why would u want to find 10%

[steady coral]

Sorry but I ain't seen any.

[tacit elk]

K

[steady coral]

@dense spoke in maths class or sales where the new prices of items in shops aren't marked yet 😜

[tacit elk]

Thanks anyway

[dense spoke]

i mean to find the new price of items

u multiply it by 0.9

[steady coral]

Yeah, to find a 10% discount, not 10% of the original price.

[dense spoke]

nvm idk what u on about

[steady coral]

I understand what you mean.

0.9 = 90% of the original price, or 10% taken off. Discount = taken off

[dense spoke]

mate i know dun have to explain

[steady coral]

Just making sure, Jon. For my own clarification as well as your satisfaction.

[dense spoke]

...

i finished learning pure maths only 2 years ago so fractions should be a problem

[steady coral]

should be or shouldn't be, @dense spoke ?

[dense spoke]

u can infer mate

[steady coral]

Just clarifying 😝

[unborn surge]

anyone knows if there will be a 30% discount?

[sonic wren]

We don't know

[steady coral]

No, there won't be. Only 10% and a 20% at the end.

[pine scaffold]

we can't be sure of this also

even the discount times are leaked info

[strong shore]

Please tell all your team mates. 😃👍🏻

[sonic wren]

Well I'm usually sleeping now since its 4 am but hopefully I can stay up

[nimble coral]

We got it guys! 30% go go go

[strong shore]

Go spread the word, the word is DISCOUNT Coming in 2 hours a 8 mins. 30%. 😍. Hold the front page. 🤣😂🤣

[craggy ore]

Anyone has that map pic?

[fair linden]

https://forums.socialpointgames.com/topic/11278/galactic-expedition-maze/2

[craggy ore]

Thanks Vibsy!

[brazen token]

30% discount

[strong shore]

@everyone Maze is 30% Discount Now. If not, reload your game. Enjoy 🎆🎇

[hollow void]

😋

[crude finch]

Wow thankss

[final vortex]

Ty

[onyx iron]

[harsh yew]

[onyx iron]

Would be nice if I didn't do copperbeard path

oh well

[merry siren]

^

[indigo onyx]

[dense spoke]

guys advice

zamolean or grumpex

[undone zodiac]

Zameleon for his extra turn skill. Because has so fast speed.

[winged sonnet]

nothing is worthwhile in the maze tho

[bright blade]

zameleon or grumpex?

I suppose zameleon

[tropic panther]

[stable jay]

@bright blade I received Zameleon adn 45 Cells. Gonna go for 3 Stars or something

[hasty laurel]

[vagrant trellis]

Got Zameleon and 175 cells,

[strong shore]

That’s great and amazing. 😃

[vagrant trellis]

Thanks

[bright blade]

great, I almost got him too

[strong shore]

Brilliant. 😃

[covert heath]

Is it worth next maze I don't go for the secret path but I go for the best monster in the maze and rank him/her up?

[bright blade]

we know nothing about next maze though...

[covert heath]

I'm asking if I should do that unless the secret path monster is good?

[bright blade]

that also depends on the maze monsters and their prices

[narrow tundra]

Is that... what you'd always try and do? Go for the best monster unless the secret path monster is good?

[covert heath]

No never tried it? I just waste my coins on the secret path monster... or should I save up like some players do to get the higher rewards?

Tell that advice to a player with less legendary monsters

aka Me

[bright blade]

ask that when next maze is here and we will have a proper answer

[unborn surge]

Anyone knows the node costs for grumpex?

[covert heath]

17835

[unborn surge]

I'm 15 nodes away and I don't know if I can get him

[narrow tundra]

What does the next node for you cost Glistas?

[atomic pulsar]

I was sleep during the 30% disc

[unborn surge]

let me check

[covert heath]

but what if we pretend the secret monster didnt come yet.. should i use my coins on capt copperbeard or grumpex / zameleon @bright blade

[unborn surge]

335

[narrow tundra]

Would cost you 7280 to finish with no discount

[unborn surge]

Thanks a lot

[narrow tundra]

If the final discount is 20%, 5809

[unborn surge]

Looks like I can get it

[bright blade]

@covert heath if you dont have enough legends, you should go for a higher number of legends, that means getting the secret path monsters

[vernal galleon]

does anyone know how much the last 12 nodes of zameleon would cost?

in the final 20% discount

[solar sentinel]

k

[sonic wren]

Rē

[remote thicket]

[gusty breach]

when is next 30%?

[dense spoke]

never

[tacit elk]

Maybe last one

Or one before

Or never

[bright blade]

probably never

[steady coral]

not any more for this maze. that was a one-off.

[minor herald]

there was a 30% discount?

[shut oxide]

Yes

[sonic wren]

Will im just like you

Is 4400 without discount

@vernal galleon

[red skiff]

Next discount?

[brazen token]

@red skiff 28th Jan, 12.00pm GMT

[cursive frost]

If you have 14 nodes left and the first one is 310, how much do they cost? At least what's the formula?

[narrow tundra]

For Zameleon I assume?

[cursive frost]

Yes

[narrow tundra]

6635 for the last 14 nodes

[cursive frost]

Thanks sonnor!

[ancient yarrow]

Son im still confused how much zameleon cost unlocked

[cursive frost]

Do you happen to know how much more for 80 and 120 cells?

[ancient yarrow]

@cursive frost how many coins have u spend

[narrow tundra]

Never did the costs of the extra cells, was a lot of effort lol

Zameleon's path (without keys) is 10580

[ancient yarrow]

Ok thank you very much

[wicked kite]

Does anyone know how much the himass maze is without discounts and keys

[covert heath]

11390 @wicked kite

with keys, I don't know about withoit it

sorry didnt see that last word

[wicked kite]

damn thats bare for a legend thats not even that good

thanks tho thats fine

[steady coral]

its nnot that much, and himass is awesome lmao

[bright blade]

is not

less than 5% actually use him

dont go for him, many dark monsters outclass him

unless you cant get someone else , avoid him

[steady coral]

not a huge amount of dark tanks out there though

[bright blade]

I suppose

[steady coral]

snd by saying less than 5% use him is just random figure.

after this mze ends his usage will go up

[bright blade]

well, I have only seen one himass in 900 pvp battles

[steady coral]

also, less than 5% use a 130 warmaster, does that make them bad??

[bright blade]

thats a bad comparision

[steady coral]

you cant use usage as a measurement for how good a monster is. you have to take into account individual stats, availability, the moves it has

[bright blade]

everything taken, he is not a good monster

if you like him, thats okay

but that doesnt change facts

[steady coral]

so a monster with decent health and speed that can life steal, evasion+extra turn into Taunt and a 40% AOE that gives him damage boost is bad? just because it's not used in legendary I doesn't mean it's bad

[bright blade]

just because there are at least 10 other dark monsters better than him does mean he is not good

[steady coral]

of course there'll be monsters better than him. I mean he came out nearly 3 years ago. but that's not to say he is one of extremely few dark tanks that can hold his own

[bright blade]

I only know of him and Undertaker