#progressive-islands
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Can i have tips for progressive island
Its been 5 hours and I still can't get any more feed or gold items :/
8hrs
I thought thats only for breeding/hatching
maybe that's a consequence of that earlier bug? ๐ค
rigged ๐ฆ
you can have up to 6 gold items stored in the "pool"
So the pool resets every 1 h 20?
so you can wait 8 hours and get 6 gold items
Ah..
@digital ravine please dont use the word rigged it isnt rigged
its a stressed out word it can mean mutliple things
No it isnt
okay then.
If you use it in a game its very negative
I am not disagreeing, the places where i hang around just use it in a broader way.
Well as soon as i hear something is rigged I think its negative so thats why I ask not to use it thats all
Im going to agree with Marianne and you should just say sorry and move on ๐
Also , sheโs orange .
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Do the gems spent on the items reset when you reach a new quest? For instance, if I spend gems on food item til it costs 2 or 3 gems, will it reset to 1 gem cost on the next quest?
Yes @strong sphinx
Cool thanks.
@strong sphinx very costly to buy separate items better you buy the quest
is it just me or is it that the begining rewards of steampunks beasts island... kinda bad?
dont get me wrong, there are some good monsters in there
the only things that are worth going for are nautilus and cloud imo
well yea but what about stake, he's pretty cool in this island
he costs like 1100 gems to get i'd say waiting for him to be in an offer is a better idea
his special move is good for freeze
yea but i think hes only exclusive to the island tho
most monsters that are last in islands (ex. inheritor) will show up in offers after some time
might take a while before he goes on sale
ah kk thx
@trim mist I found that buying the items isnโt worth it it if it is one of the last few you need. But I also noticed that it can be cost effective if you are buying the quest with lots of items still left. For instance, in the guide above, to get to Stake it says to buy second quest for 41 gems. But if you take the first 2 items for 1 gem each, you can lower the cost to 31 (33 gems total).
Iโm not going to be going for Stake, but I spent the 2 gems because I was curious and new to the game.
Cool
@strong sphinx good observations ๐
@strong sphinx I just tested that and it doesn't work. 20 scaraborg cells costed 129 gems, I spent 13 gems on buying items and then it costed 119 gems
The cost for skipping right away is always (cost for buying items individually)*(some discount), rounded up
So buying individual items won't do you any good
Just tested when the cost was 41 gems; bought the 2 items for 1 gems each and that lowered the cost to... 40 gems!
Thatโs odd. Maybe mine glitched then. I wish I took a screenshot of it, but Iโm past that point now.
It would cost 31 gems if you got those 2 items without gems, just calculated.
Iโm pretty new to the game, so I donโt know much about the formulas and such
I know about the formula because of monster wiki
There it shows some kind of "discount"
Thatโs interesting. Maybe it was a bug then. That makes sense.
(only on past progressive islands, now it doesn't make those pages anymore)
Makes sense. Doesn't matter when you buy the 1 gem items, you're only taking 1 gem's worth of value away. Doing the tasks decreases the value because it takes from the other, expensive, end
Im on the 3rd reward now, is that good?
It's good
I'm on cloud
at least 1278
if they gemmed everything before killeraptor right away
and gemmed killeraptor right before sending that message
I spent 0 gems so far
you're going for killeraptor?
for cloud.
if they are going for cloud why haven't they spent any gems yet? ๐ค
they would've spent either 6 or 27 gems already if they want to minimize total gem spending for cloud
12 gems on rexx how are y'all doing 
i only picked up the initial pool for him
which means 157 gems on rexx
you traitor why aren't you collecting every 8 hours

I mean I was gonna go for cloud but I got him through cells
Im gonna be stuck on 3rd reward for a while
Already at Naut, 259 gems to finish him but I won't spend like that until its about just 20 gems to compete
Complete*
i am at naut with about 10 gems spent.
i will have about 4 days for cloud, hope its enough.

You can get killeraptor easily with no gems 
how much time for cloud?
https://forums.socialpointgames.com/topic/8258/steampunk-island-how-to-spend-your-gems everything you'd need should be there
(Marianne hijacked my post
)

Anyobe else experiencing the problem that they dont get points for breeding ?
Breed firesaur and a fire legendary, always works for me for both breeding and hatching

@ruby jungle ok thanks
Now it is 13:13 . I had to collect gold at 15 to recieve full pool
I miscollected
But thankfully didnt get items
Will my pool fill up by 15:00
?
it grows like 1 item every x time
the pool refills every 8 hours
resets once you start a new node*
i want to explain but cant with all typing
Ok proceed please
each different token has x time to spawn
Gold takes an hour and 12 minutes to spawn and goes up to 6 gold things (pool is filled at 6 gold which takes 8 hours)
if you have collected gold at time a then it can either grow till pool fills up
or you can collect after its grown 1
So lets say: you collect 6 gold. 2 h 38 min later you collect again by mistake once but dont get points. Can you still wait 2 more minutes to get 2 items or?
gold has the quickest spawn time and I think if you collect after x time the remaining time will be for next reward but im not sure
so you have to test something yourself to be absolute sure
The timer starts once you collect or once you get the point?
thats were im not absolutely sure of I think it doesnt reset
Ok thanks
but not 100%
I will collect in 14 mintues as i have to get 5 items
If i get 5 ok if i get only 4 then i will tell
be sure to log out and in before you do
yo this progressive island is so slow o o f
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its the same as other ones
^^^
Well yea but the beginning rewards are well... o o f, but when we get to cloud things get nicer
all progressive starts with a monster thats only nice for library or something and this epic is a nice monster for lower levels to have, the only progressive I had trouble with was the one before this because of dragonian beast was the first monster, you could argue on Rexx slowing things down but thats is it in my opnion
Killeraptor is the f2p limit, but if you spend gems you can get cloud
Killeraptor is really good because of his two 35 dmg Earth AoEs
Always looked cool to me, shame he's bad
I'll get him at least!
305 GPM! I ain't mad about that one
Bad. Haha
Mission accomplished Pow
Killeraptor is big poopoo
Sorry for the late reply hahaha
When I say "x monster is really good because of their [insert very not good/underwhelming skill here]" I am always being sarcastic hahaha
Just like I said how Hayman is really good because of his AoE precision earlier
Why say F2P limit is killeraptor? Gems are easily obtainable f2p.
Because otherwise where do you stop. F2P can easily obtain 1000 gems and so get Stake, I know I've spent way over that. Easier to just assume F2P is no gems ๐
How much gems would it cost to get a rank 2 Stake? Iโm F2P and Iโve never quite ventured to complete an island. Does anyone know?
Or perhaps just to get a r0 Stake
welcome to my world @ruby jungle ๐
island boost started
Ive just started on killeraptor
(Collected the first items)
Do i have a chance for Cloud
Without any gems
?
yes
just remember that island boost started
so until it ends, collect every 4 hours
so you spent some gems already?
ok
because i know cloud is unobtainable without gems
I have 202 just in case
I didnt know there would be an island boost
Im happy with it
there was one for almost all
@hollow hill I always wanted him but he's very raw, but he has 3553 power which is weird
Always wanted him as well, really.
He looks cool
Just is not good lol
He'll look good with 3 Team Golds
Sorry if this has already been stated, but how does island boost work? Double production for 24hrs? 48hrs?
items respawn twice as fast
For 2 days
Ok thank you
oh haha



But then you have the change on them being deleted because it has nothing to do with the subject ๐
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i think im on rex now
fml
im so bad at the ones i dont care much about - i keep forgetting to check event
Killeraptor without trying hard
gg yeah thats whats frustrating i totally neglect these islands cause i just do my collects and forget to claim lol at least with maze i just do my bits and get my coins and cash them in
islands you have to keep checking on them
I could have sworn once complete it auto-moves on to the next node, just leaving a claim button on the previous one?
I think that's what happened to me moving to the Killeraptor node, but then I'm also quite certain it didn't do that at an earlier node lol
oh maybe just fluke for me the couple times ive checked it said collect but i had zero points on the next node
it's possible it moves on but doesn't start collecting until you claim ๐
i know lol thats part of the problem lol
rex had no gold collect tasks lol
meh i dont really care anyways is my point ๐
I want to get at least killeraptor
last one i tried hard for was al canine and was very happy about that one
yeah it was but i had a ton of e cells waiting to max him so it was worth a little splurge and some buff island boosted stat fun in pvp
he's still my fave
your trying to breed metalisha for the first time?
or ranking her
For the first time
yo tambien
wdsadad
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Hi Marianne
Hello
hello
61/133 on cloud
37/133 here
might need to use about 10 gems to get him
You can run 3 Team Speed or 2 Team Speed and 1 Team Life on Cloud.
triple speed for her
Ok

do you have any tips or tricks about progressive islands ?
they are pinned in this channel
no problem - yes checked pinned messages in every channel
65/133 Cloud on Main
I think the only Progressive island that had 2 Parts was the Civilization Island
Oh also 100 / 133 Cloud
111/133 on Cloudster.
85/133

72 only
91/133
96/133 Cloud (20 spent gems)

What?!
If I log in every 8 hours
I ain't got time to get cloud
I'm at 70/133
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Feels bad man
I might not be able to get him
I think you can get him, but you might need to use just a small amount of gems.
not wise tho
๐คทโโ๏ธ
Iโve done that on Old Islands
well its up to you just an advise on saving gems
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Iโm 3 items away from cloud ๐
Itโs just collect gold and the pools reset every 8 Hours basicly
All I need is just 4 hours of waiting and Cloud โ๏ธ is mine
Good Job, again
I am 8 items from Scaraborg.
Dungeons.
Go to those dungeons.
You may get a spin with gems on it.
Dungeons of Books 10 gems.
@gaunt pasture
dungeon as Helen Said
Yes
Oh. Sorry. I havenโt been in for a while.
Thanks tho
I got cloud and half done on the next monster
I got Killeraptor easily and he was my goal. I wanted to get Cloud, but I guess next time (I have a rank 3 already and have 115 cells too, so maybe extratcting Arch Knights? ๐ )
Is the gakora challenge pool same to the regular PI?
wouldn't be the first time lol
I'm honestly not sure. Maybe one of the cleverer guys, like Dorij, will be able to work out the rough cost
0 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes: 944 gems
0 days, 1 hours, 0 minutes: 944 gems
0 days, 2 hours, 0 minutes: 870 gems
0 days, 3 hours, 0 minutes: 836 gems
0 days, 4 hours, 0 minutes: 775 gems
0 days, 5 hours, 0 minutes: 775 gems
0 days, 6 hours, 0 minutes: 726 gems
0 days, 7 hours, 0 minutes: 695 gems
0 days, 8 hours, 0 minutes: 617 gems
0 days, 9 hours, 0 minutes: 617 gems
0 days, 10 hours, 0 minutes: 573 gems
0 days, 11 hours, 0 minutes: 545 gems
0 days, 12 hours, 0 minutes: 504 gems
0 days, 13 hours, 0 minutes: 504 gems
0 days, 14 hours, 0 minutes: 465 gems
0 days, 15 hours, 0 minutes: 440 gems
0 days, 16 hours, 0 minutes: 378 gems
0 days, 17 hours, 0 minutes: 378 gems
0 days, 18 hours, 0 minutes: 344 gems
0 days, 19 hours, 0 minutes: 322 gems
0 days, 20 hours, 0 minutes: 291 gems
0 days, 21 hours, 0 minutes: 291 gems
0 days, 22 hours, 0 minutes: 262 gems
0 days, 23 hours, 0 minutes: 243 gems
right as you mention Dori
see, knew he'd be on the ball ๐
243 gems... at that point you might as well just buy him normally lol
Amazing, with perfect collection ๐ Hmmm I'm not going to participate in this one
that's a mega oof for me was hoping he'd be cheap so i can try to rank him up to r4
I'll just use the event as an excuse to feed my monsters
What do you get in that hour?
this confuses me highly - can you only collect things at times (sorry for noob question)
you get 1 gold item every 1 hour and 20 minutes - the max amount you can have "stored" without collecting it is 6
you get 1 food item every 2 hours - the max amount you can have "stored" without collecting it is 4
you get 1 breed and hatch item every 8 hours - the max amount you can have "stored" without collecting it is 1
so basically, what you can do is collect every 8 hours and get 6 gold, 4 food, 1 breed and 1 hatch
ah ok cool - that makes alot of sense now from why i didnt get stuff in the past! thank you
only will be worth it if the pool time is shorter so dont going to do it for 6 gems ๐
If i miss a collection ๐ฌ
I'll pass on this. Does not worth it.
well you might be sorry if they do a halve time ๐
I'll do the tasks, but just because they are things I regularly do. Also, I only have 40 gems.
Plus I can craft him any time, becuase I have 100 Gakora cells.
well I will do all I can just in case but not going to stress on it ๐
This challenge has spawn time issues for its items. They spawn every 8 hrs which must be only 4 at such 1 day period
it's not meant to be able to be completed for free. These 1 day tasks never are
wish it was cheaper
It's easier to just buy him for 249 gems. No stress and same price.
you save 6 gems
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US is in the placeโฆ spend your gems (money). That's all. I Don't stress. I Don't look at this joke.
The game is going in too much directions. It's realy annoying.
At some points players will leave the game.
In 6 months it's a full job just to play the game...
If it's not already the case for some members.
Thank goodness someone agrees with me. Being f2p you have to pick what you do and dont want to do. If you want to do something? Guess what, it's another 1059 gems before you can actually get the thing, and that's if you mess up your sleep schedule too.
Remember the 1 day Krampus challenge ? I got him for 74 gems, considering without perfect collect of all items
These kind of islands are ridiculous. I need 24h presense in the game to collect gold, breedings, feed. Just to buy monster for ausual price or save 10 gems
not even 10 just 6
you don't need 24h presence for that; you just need presence at 10am, 6pm, 2am and 8:40am gmt
you need 24h presence for race though
aint nobody waking up at 2 am for that
Most of the time im still up at my 2 am
well during summer, I am too but in other seasons, one has work or college or something
what if you're not in GMT?

for example, those times in GMT+5 would be 3pm, 11pm, 7am and 1:40pm
who lives in gmt+5 though
I dont think people have a choice on that lol
thats not what he means

"who lives in gmt+5 though"
its a joke, but a meaningful one
thats exactly what he means
@slim coral whats the timezone for maze discounts?
@primal musk not here, go in maze channel
Hello
For new team race i have an idea
I think it shoould be "lost city team race" and i have a few ideas for monsters as rewards
ahh actually go to #marathon-race with that
Does having two wigs affect anything?
Nah.
Ok
anyone knows how many cells u can got of imigbo without spending gems
Not yet
It's 60 cells for "free"
Oki thanks ๐ค
Thank you. ๐๐๐ป
I get 52 hours for 60, 88 for 80, 174.66 for 100 cells. I'm sure Dori will give us some accurate gemming costs ๐
174.66 hours whereas we only get 72 hours :O
https://pastebin.com/2vyAsZE9 do you prefer this format(after x collections, not including the first one) or the previous one(after x*8 hours)?
Unless anyone says otherwise, i'm sticking with this.
iMigbo costs 61 gems to get(80 cells) ๐ค
anyway expect to see a forum post about this soon
I personally prefer after x collections @ruby jungle makes it easier to follow in my mind. Dunno how that would work with non 8 hour collections?
Haha thats ok, just as last time?
Gotcha. Yeh i'd stick to after x collections for the 8 hours ๐
Good to see I'm on track for the 80 cells then haha, already out of sync with the 100
also those costs didn't account that you can instead of skipping fights for 3/7/11 gems use 2 gems per fight for recovering
i'll update them soon for that
That's awesome, thank you!
what i'm assuming a player will do is skip the fights and then for a discounted price buy the rest of the items
in case anyone's wondering
that should be the optimal thing to do
also the only thing to do
also keep in mind that anything with more than 8 collections is irrelevant because there is most likely no island boost
If I have the wig, I should be able to get iMigbo for free, yes? Or do I have to have him already to participate in the sunglasses/wig rank up challenges?
No the wig just gives you access to the 24h challenge. It doesn't give you anything for free
What I mean is if I get 60 cells in this current challenge, I should be able to get the remaining 40 in the wig event. Or does it not work by getting cells?
yes sorry, you should be able to. I can't promise anything because we don't know exactly how the wig challenge will be, and there may be some luck involved
Yay
Ah did we get a confirmation the in game popup is wrong @sour hatch ? ๐
Yes, that has been confirmed.
Excellent, thank you! ๐
monster legends and calendar dates arent going very well lately
But the 24hour Challenge is not working
OH, the iccon appear on the left, I did not get the glasses, I only got the wig, I thought the wig would come first...
Glasses are first
Bad event anyway, only 20 cells from 10 cards...
well im getting me a monster for little so not a bad event in my eyes
Bad event @trim mist why doesnโt it give me a rank 5 warmaster for free
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doesnt it ๐ค
It's a mystery ๐ฒ
I dont know about you but I got most of the cells( except for the 5 cells x2)
and that was after picking only half of the cards up
Folks, everything up to the Warspellz cells can be got without gems. That includes Borjork and Shork ๐
Marianne and Dorij may drop full breakdowns, but just in case you wondered!
Thanks
Which means I might well spend no gems this time ๐
Can someone please remind me how long the pool is for these is it every 8 hours?
Yup @granite lodge 8 hours ๐
Thank you.
Thank you Dori. Great work as always ๐
And of course marianne too for the beautiful table ๐
is it confirmed that shork is possible without any gems 
Yup. Takes like... 147 hours and there are 166 I the event
pastebin links don't work for me
You have to copy and paste them in a browser. SP forums donโt allow links
Donโt they usually run 6 days 22 hours or something. The first day is never 24 hours as it starts 1 or 2 hours off
Otherwise events would always be getting later and later ๐
That means 167 hours i think
still doesn't work for me. How many gems are needed for gaia nova?
Yeh I believe itโs 167, but I went 166 to be conservative haha
@opaque saddle make sure you donโt copy the first /. So copy everything from pastebin onwards ๐
For me(using desktop firefox) even if I copy that / the page still loads
Safari complained it was a file and couldnโt deal with it lol. Figured it was safer to advise that way
Either way Acid, you can get Gaia for free assuming theirs an island boost. Without, i dunno.
Note: I'm pretty sure you can't get Gaia free if you only collect every 8 hours. If you do and you have almost perfect collection, then it will cost you a whopping 2 gems.
If only the Olympus wish was 25 gems, then you could afford it pot ๐

or breed
ok east
@ruby jungle can you please copy that after mine no 2 posts on the same subject
I cant move your i can only close it
And i dont want to steal your thunder
Done.
thanks
Haha it's barely been on a day. Don't write yourself out of getting Shork just yet! With Island boost, he's easy ๐
I am not a native english speaker and I am also new to the game, my second progressive island... I dont know if i got right the strategy to spend the gems... Since we will have island boost, we will be able to almost get gaianova for free, so I am willing to spend a little gem to make sure I cant get it
https://pastebin.com/L08iwLz3 Using this link... If i make perfection I would only spend 1 gem to get gaia nova?
The pools are full every 4 hours, not every 8 hours, essentially you need to collect faster, you will gain 2 days
What I am trying to figure it out is how much gems I will spend to get gaianova, I hope someone can give some light
In my opinion, i don't think the last monster is that great, i'm referring to firca
Yeah
Borjork has a really high power
@fading seal Yes, with perfect collection every 8 hours you can spend 1 gem on Borjork and get GaiaNova.
I can't get breeding and hatching items

I hatched over 20 firesaurs and I got no items
and I reloaded the game
same for breeding Nature with Fire
was it 8 hours since your last item collection?
yea, I didn't got any of these items on this island
did you breed the firesaurs?
i'm pretty sure just buying doesn't work
@ruby jungle quest 3 should be Borjork right?
isn't quest 3 firca cells??
I think I get it now, i will prepare to miss a couple and i will aim to spend 7 gems, since I think I already spent the 4 on quest 2
Cells quest doesnt count because they need 30 seconds to do, the number on pastebin is the Monsters only
Whatโs the best way to determine what the 8 hour cycle is? Is it based on when I collect, or is it based on when the event started? I missed a day because of school
based on when you collect
timer starts when you grab everything needed.
Ok cool that makes it a lot easier. Thank you ๐
like the 6 gold, 4 food, 1 breeding and hatching, it starts when you collect and so forth
Ok good so all of those components are on the same 8 hour cycle provided you collect them all at the same time, right?
Sometimes it seems I have a hard time with the breeding/ hatching part.
breed firesaur+firesaur
i had the same problem with firesaur +firesaur and firesaur +treezard. Didn't get a heart item for 2 days even after 100+ tries (couple of islands ago). I do firesaur + rockilla now and it works. Sometimes needs 2-3 tries.
This is what I joined to ask. It's letting me collect gold and feed monsters, but doesn't count breedings.
So I just need to wait awhile?
you can get the item every 8 hours (4 hours with boost event). after you successfully got it, the waiting time resets. It's not fixed times, it is based on when you collected last.
And every node works independently. Like when you need to breed a monster for 10 cells. You collect the heart item and finish it. You don't have to wait 8 (4 respectively) for the new node, you can get the next heart item right away.
idk, firesaur+firesaur always works for me in less than 4 tries
cool ๐
Thanks, Bloxeh. I just got my first credit for breeding.
Any tips on how to be successful in islands
check the pinned messages
I am still struggling with breeding
I don't have anything to add to what has been said. What I do is, try Fire Legendary + Firesaur a couple of times, if that doesn't work, restart the game and try that combination again... and if that fails.... well it hasn't failed yet, but then I would do Pandaken + Treezard or Pegasus + Firesaur. And finally, double check I did my maths right and enough time has passed (8 or 4 hours on boost)
Does anyone have a screenshot of Firca from the island, what resources do you need to collect in order to get it?
we can't post images here i'll post it in a different channel
What?
go to #ml-general-discussion
Ok
I havent been able to get a heart in 2 days
unless it's device-dependant, i don't understand how do people have these issues when hearts and eggs have been working flawlessly for me since forever
it has been working for me well
I managed to get shork
all clean
but now its been stuck for 2 days
I didnt change the breeding combo or anything for that matter
are you breeding something else in the other breeding building?
yes, but that breeding is finished and it has been even before I got shork
This may sound daft but have you tried manually selecting the monsters, rather than repeating the breed?
nope
it always works with repeat for me 
it used to work for me too
I will do a quick cache clear or something and change breeding combo
My gold colletion is stuck in 8 hours or something like it, usually I could collect every 2 hours, or the regular time, but now it wont work, same with food, it became strange after shork too
Actually in the end of shork I had problems like this, but now its worst
you only get 6 gold 4 food 1 breed and hatch every 8 hours
I know, but there is a something in the middle with food and gold
Well itโs more 1 food spawns every 1 hour 20 minutes, and food every 2 hours. Still hits the maximum of 6 and 4 though ๐
Yes, but mine is not working like that, I dont know why, everything releases together at the same time

cost of jakugan after x hours of optimal collection:
0 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes: 918 gems
0 days, 1 hours, 0 minutes: 918 gems
0 days, 2 hours, 0 minutes: 862 gems
0 days, 3 hours, 0 minutes: 828 gems
0 days, 4 hours, 0 minutes: 775 gems
0 days, 5 hours, 0 minutes: 775 gems
0 days, 6 hours, 0 minutes: 726 gems
0 days, 7 hours, 0 minutes: 695 gems
0 days, 8 hours, 0 minutes: 617 gems
0 days, 9 hours, 0 minutes: 617 gems
0 days, 10 hours, 0 minutes: 573 gems
0 days, 11 hours, 0 minutes: 545 gems
0 days, 12 hours, 0 minutes: 504 gems
0 days, 13 hours, 0 minutes: 504 gems
0 days, 14 hours, 0 minutes: 465 gems
0 days, 15 hours, 0 minutes: 440 gems
0 days, 16 hours, 0 minutes: 378 gems
0 days, 17 hours, 0 minutes: 378 gems
0 days, 18 hours, 0 minutes: 344 gems
0 days, 19 hours, 0 minutes: 322 gems
0 days, 20 hours, 0 minutes: 291 gems
0 days, 21 hours, 0 minutes: 291 gems
0 days, 22 hours, 0 minutes: 262 gems
0 days, 23 hours, 0 minutes: 243 gems
1 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes: 197 gems
Thanks Dorij ๐
So in short, I'm not going to worry about clearing a space in my hatchery to do it ๐
yes
also, if i remember correctly, this is the exact same as gakora challenge
i remember both of them saved you a whopping 6 gems
So 0 chance for F2P with 4 gems ๐
@ruby jungle it just started for me it seems. Howโd you get the info so quickly?
Oh. Itโs only 21 hrs left for me. Guess I need to close/re-open on the daily basis to get updates?
Well it started over 2 hours ago, and after that you just gotta calculate it ๐
Yes, updates aren't really "pushed" to you
Gotcha.
Oof,this island is bad
Thunder Eagles breed/hatch is 4 hrs timer. Is there a breed/hatch for a 2 hrs timer?
I need to pay 80% from Jakugan's normal cost to get it
They said it will be 24H challenge
Oof
So I need to put my two cents in on this island. Perfect collections for a subpar monster costing 197 gems is seemingly a high waste of man power going into creating and launching this event. Its things like these that shake people's opinion of the company, what else is this for other than trying to snipe newer players or misinformed teams of their gems when there is way better options? I could see if it was a top tier or at least team worthy monster, as is this is more insulting than anything
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Lol why was she in the monsterwood for free but now we need to spend gems to get her

ItzBlui, I like your spinning think emojis.
thanks ๐

Progressive island is on
8h is a full pool
Is there a breeding combo for 8 hrs timer? @spice sorrel
So whats the best way to go about with this island?
waiting for your magic @ruby jungle ๐
Is captain copperbeard good?
Yeh he's good ๐
In that case he's great haha, he's one of the best metal monsters ๐
I wont get copper

im only aiming for mechamancer. this event isnt worth my effort lol
i have all the monsters lol
(except copper and the new one of course)
We may get Island boost, forgot about it?
Probably
But it wont help me to get copper
Cuz
My hatchery and breeding mount occuped for 2 days

Oh you did this for Legendary over lords?
I stopped after 2nd chest, didn't wanted to risk Progressive island lol.
I need Cap
No
I am on babe account
And
I breeded some epics
Btw
Got musu & rhynex/rabidex first try



The island back to old structure, itโs better the newer imo, with some cell on the way ๐.
Will we have a definitive structure or that will change every time?
Do we get credit for speeding up hatching? I've started and hatched 3 eggs and haven't gotten credit for any of them, and way in heck I'm paying any gems for that rare
No way*
You can only get 1 hatch point every 8 hours
Oh look another prog island with another cool legend
Guess Iโll just wait for him to come to MW since I canโt be asked to play that event. Hate prog islands so much
@umbral solar Well I've hatched 3 since the map started and am sitting at 0 points. 1 point every 8 hours is absolutely ridiculous lol
Its a change item thats why you use short breeds
Like 15sec, 30sec or 3/6 minutes ones @versed lodge
Guys how can I get breeding and hatching items quickly?
Every 8 hours breed some Pandakens until you get it ๐
i don't think pandakens work, but firesaur+firesaur is shorter and always works for me
Works for me ๐
But yeh any short breed should be fine. Might take a few tries though, so donโt be if itโs not instant!
@primal musk you were talking about adventure map, not the current event. He wasn't a monster in this event.
The hatching and breeding part of this prog island is messed up. I have now hatched 6 eggs since the event started and none gave me credit. So I spent gems to get passed the rare, now it's not giving me any points for breeding. SP is whack and I'm not opening that map again or spending any more gems on it.
i think you need to hatch the eggs you got from breeding
breeding firesaur+firesaur always gives me both breed and hatch items
I can understand the frustration DrGreybush, but 6 attempts isnโt a lot. Not when you consider that it only takes 15 seconds to hatch an egg. Last progressive it took me 20-30 breeds/hatches to get that first egg. I donโt know what the issue was, but once I got that first egg, all breeds/hatches generated an item on the first or second attempt. Like Dorijanko said, make sure you are hatching eggs from breeds (short breeds are highly preferable for obvious reasons). Iโve never gotten an item from a bought egg.
I've bred 50 eggs now with no breeding point, with reloads every 5-10 breeds. At what point does this become a bug?
can you record? I'd like to see exactly what it looks like.
At which node are you at right now?
You know you can only get one egg every 8 hours?
If you arent getting any and you think you should. Close the app and try again
so getting copperbeard is not possible if not trowing money(gems) at them or i did math wrong any1 knows for sure?
you need gems for him
yeah i thought so he is like 88 gold and m2 77 gold..
did not expect that much for an old monsters, well next race first lap 2 breding epic nodes coming soon
@twilit dagger change recipe its not a bug
Try a common fire with L fire
Or a common earth with common fire
The Quick Breeds don't work too well to get the Hatch Points either!
@strong sphinx what are you breeding that takes 15 seconds? I'm putting the eggs I have in and speeding them up with gems or they take days to hatch. And I still haven't gotten any points. It shouldn't be "you have to breed this super specific mon every 8 hours" if it says Breed then any breeding should work, if it says Hatch then any hatching should work. Otherwise they need to tell us what we need to do. They need to say "use your eggs from breeding" or something. I'm only on node 2, don't think I'll even get passed this one since I can see above that node 3 has a bunch of breeding and hatching.
@trim mist but why is there certain "recipes" that work and others don't when all it says is "breed" or "hatch". It's very misleading to new players.
Itโs not that certain recipes work. You arenโt guaranteed an item from every breed. Thatโs why people keep suggesting firesaur+firesaur. That combo only takes 15 seconds. If you get stuck, reloading the game helps and even doing a different breed seems to help. I wonโt say it isnโt frustrating. People have legitimate problems with this. But those are the tips I can give that have helped me in the past.
Also, I donโt know if anyone else experienced this, but Iโve noticed that the first collection from any quest seems to have itโs own non-refillable pool. I waited 10 hours before I got my breed items for the second quest and got 2 hearts. I wonder if that is how it is supposed to work.
@strong sphinx you're supposed to get one item every 8 hours, but I have gotten pool issues before.
@versed lodge all recipes work
But its a chance item
So if you breed a long breeder and it has 40% (dk the exact) chance to be rewarded then use short recipes thats more of a logic thinking than something else
in my opinion.....
firesaur and greensaur is a great combination. As an result you will get an C, UC or R Monster. all of them takes until 30sec, breeding, hatching, rank and so on. So best basis for all events (also race). On the second breeding possibility I try breedable legendรคres.
It is correct, it takes me sometimes 10-20 times until it is counted for progressiv island, but I have good experiences with this combination. Sometimes it helps when the app is completely closed on iOS or Cache removed on Android. Sometimes this helps.
During the 8h colldown I also breed and hatch this combination and sell the monster at the end. I have the feeling that this helps when cooldown is passed. But I do this only, when I go only, because I want. No need to do that.
why does it takes sometime 10-20 tries until it is counted?
There is not only a cooldown time there is also a percentage chance that it is counted. so no guarantee that it is counted immediately ๐
At the end everybody have to make his own experiences. For some player this works, for other not. Try and decide what would be or is the best solution for you. ๐
breeding and hatching task have a cooldown of 8h. donโt forget or miss this information!!!!
firesaur+fire L also works and it's 2 times faster: 15 seconds instead of 30
@ruby jungle
and you get there also C, UC and R Monster?
firesaur and Greensaur
C = 15sec
UC and R round about 30sec
Would I hit copperbeard
im gonna try for m2-wyvern.wish me luck guys
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@sour hatch
When is the offer of this island ?
Itโs never guaranteed. It is nice though to have.
As expected from this game
I am in mechamancer rn
I have 8/9 heart
8/9 egg
32/36
48/66
Will I get copper beard
Sorry but the image won't send
6 days 13 hour left btw
Itโs impossible to get cooper beard without gems
So if youโre spending then the answer will always be yes itโs possible, but I couldnโt tell you for how much ๐
The gold task is really unbalanced cuz you can get 6 every 8 hours so you will get 56 gold if you open the game 9 times which the other tasks already ends ๐ค
But you still need to open the game 2 more times
On order to get 66 gold
This island is broken or Im doing it wrong
I've been doing the tasks
But the progress doesnt update
If there is island boost copper beard is mine. Even if I spend 50 /70 gems cuz I would spend more to get him in offer or in cell week
Iโm in mechamancer now. I got 8/9 heart and egg. 33/36 food and 50/66 gold. Is it possible for me to get the m2-wyvern ?
Probably with a few gems. <20 is my guess.
I want dat island boost
Gimme dat island boost
I am now on M2-wyvern. 1/11 eggs and heart. 4/44 chicken legs 6/77 gold. Will I get captin copperbeard
Maybe
I spend 70 gems until now uwu. Tbh I won't spend more than 140 gems
If you have already spent 70 gems, you should consider being willing to spend an additional 140 gems. Otherwise you wasted your 70 gems since you can get wyvern cheap or free with island boost.
Exactly. .___.
I wanted Mechamancer and I'll get him. Maybe I'll get Van K. Mark too, but it's not important.
Only 3 days left. I am at m2-wyvern. Is it possible to get him with about 20 or less gems ?
Yea
So now i got 27/77 gold, 18/42 food and 4/11 breed and hatch. Can i make it till the end and get m2-wyvern with 20 or less gem ?
Yea
can we not add pictures
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not awful rewards, there's quite a lot of heroic orbs
Can we get any island boost or not
probably not now :(
this progressive is a huge waste of time, hope for a much better one next time...
sakura- san you are right
How often can you hatch eggs for the progressive islands?
Every eight hours
Thanks!
Anyone got a diagram for the progressive island?
Not yet, they'll come. You can only get up to the 15x Scrap Warrior cells without spending gems though. Gets you Rexx, Growler, Deadwolf and Nexor

Sonnor thanks for tell us
Stupid question, does gold also reset in 8 hours?
Yes
Cool that makes things easy.

Hey guys, I have no gems and I need tips to get new sting west claw. Can anyone tell me some tips and hopefully getting him or is it impossible?
if I make one i wont post it here ๐
Okay
there is def no way to get westclaw without gems lol
Ooof
Any approximate chance of getting Roxen tho
I think Deadwolf is a realistic goal, right?
I meant it's possible to get him without gems while also slacking off ๐
Maybe I should try Nexor, to make him rank 2 ...
He has shocked, not the new one of course, the gaurd down version
I know that (lazy SP), but he also has an AOE stun move.
Yep
And that's always good to have.
ok, im going to look on wiki
nexor has aoe stun, aoe daze, aoe damage reduction, single total damage reduction
Yes.
a single daze with no cooldown... interesting
am i blind or does roxan only do fire and metal damage>
roxen has generic fire and metal attacker skills
Yea
I doubt ill get that far. Im stuck on the 2nd battle lol.
I have an issue with this event, i have read somewhere that this event is EXACTLY the same as a previous one, with the only difference of course being the brand new one and then deadwolf
How difficult is the stuff for the growler? (On last battle for rexx and i want more monsters)
@idle tundra u are right about that
I just feel like sp is running out of ideas when it comes to new versions of old events
weren't most of the monsters in this one also in the other "wastelands" event ages ago? The one with dr hazard
post-apocalypse event
yes all of them except deadwolf and westclaw
Why was beefcake in the fossil island? I MEAN HE'S BREEDABLE!!!!!!!!!!!
And drop elemental was in the other progressive island which Idk the name of
^
Why are you complaning about events that happend years ago? ๐ค
lmao. regardless if its breedable or not, the epics are still decent for newer players
Very decent. Growler (whatever his name is) is a good one for begginers.
Same thing about Deadwolf.
He does some decent dmg tho
Im just trying to get as much monsters as possible for my library, so getting as much of these as possible is useful for me
Probably if you spend gems.
That's reasonable. You'll still get him if you spend that many gems. ๐
Why that many on those monsters? You could have spended that many just on Roxen and Nexor.
everybody follows their on strat @ivory junco if i have a target I do the same as Dea, to get a convenient timing on the island
I guess that makes sence. I usually spend gems when i have to or when i want to get the second Legendary the Island has to offer.
or when will a better monster come out 
@gray kettle I did something exactly like you! If I can complete a mode for 15 or less gems, I do just so I can move on to the next one given I don't have perfect collection.
I need monsters. And if I can get one for for 20 gems, I'll buy any legend and have them earn gold.

Yum yum. Thanks for the cookie! ๐
I got deadwolf, shame i cant hatch him as i have no room for a legendary habitat
buy an island ๐
sell UCs
Don't have enough gold mari๐
Which also means i defo dont have enough for a legendary habitat. As a new island for me is 1m. Leg habitat is 2.5m ๐๐
Lmaooo
Je
I get around 40 mil lol
Here we wont pin info about Progressive but If you want extra information other big servers post that and information can also be found on SP Forum: https://forums.socialpointgames.com/category/4/monster-legends
again, see #marathon-race
@vivid mesa He is a rare tho u can get him from adventure map wheel or from breeding rockilla and tyrannoking
Hmm the items for the progressive island were far to easy to gather.... I have a feeling it's going to be expensive to finish! Plus I noticed the last few didn't have an island boost ๐ข
I feel your fear. I am hoping that getting min 80 cells should be OK with effort
It'll most likely be similar to imigbo, where it's not a single reward, but cells split up over multiple sections.
like Imigbo/ingenica/yamada thats what I think too
I honestly hope itโs like Tijenโs event, where itโs possible to get F2P but youโd have to completely mess up your sleep schedule for a high reward. Got like 4 hours of sleep but forgot to actually attempt to get her because I was so exhausted
@primal musk can you edit that to say โmess up your sleep scheduleโ or something similar please ๐
sven hours later and unchanged ๐ค
@spare topaz Timezones exist
Thank you Jeff, itโs appreciated ๐
No problem
next time please let Sonnor's warning be enough
any news on when Cain'S pro might start?
a minute after yousaid it arclord
Guys cain is here
Just a question, how much gold can you get for every set (like the gold in the progressive events such as +4, +1, etc) and when does each set reset?
Every 8 hours the pool resets and its 6 gold items I believe
4
6-4-1-1
Thanks again ๐
you can get him for free but not ranked up
^
What is the gold pool for this, I cant get more than three collect gold
6
Can i just keep spamming collecting at 1 habitat?
Is it possible to get Cain without spending any gems ?
Yes but not ranked up, according to a comment further up the thread
whens the Cain's hell thing?
i have 9 holy, 6 garlic, 7 mirror, 5 ingots, and 6 crucifix
So, do you have the icon for it?
Yes. Do.
What in heck is paste bin?
A free text dump website
Oh. If they were supposed to be hot links they arenโt working. I also tried pasting them, and got โfile not foundโ
You canโt put proper links on SP forums. The links will work though if you remove the first / ๐
Discord team don't want that you go to external links. Thing that I can understand
ctrl+a/ctrl+c & ctrl+v is not a big deal ;o)
First one maybe not if it's not only the link...
Just looking on the right panel. Devs are working over the Week-end?!? Or they are addict to the game lol
Otherwise it's exploitation ;o)
Lol @ruby jungle the link to the links is a hot link ๐
Yeh he could link them here. But they remove hot links on the forum ๐
Hi
Soo
How do i farm the items?
You know how with maze coins you wait 4 hours or something to get the max
Is there a way with the PI?
Alright cool
I'm late to the cain pi
Still enough time for me to get 80 cells?
or more
I also have some breeding/hatches ready
Everything is told here. Outside socialpoint forum no need to get outside ;o)
It's pinned too when it's relevant
Asking before thinking is a major issue for me ๐
I need to stay softโฆ some terms can't be used here lol
Guys my idea is for progressive island not to be every 8 hrs for the pool it should be 4 or 6 which would be better because people have to stay up or not like now I have to stay up till 2:00 and it is 23:21 because of cain event and the pool if it was 6 I would only have to wait 38 minutes please add that and make it 4 or 6 hrs please put this in account for next island
Haโฆ j'ai dรฉpassรฉ minuit. Dรฉsolรฉ @tropic fern Je vais aller dormir ;oIf
if it'is 4-6 hours they will divide rewards by 2
Pool for progressive island is 4 hours
@thorn solar
Put your suggestion on #bugs-reporting maybe
There is an ideas and discussion forum, but itโs not always open so save ideas until it does.
For now it's open I guess
I asked for a long timeโฆ lolโฆ.. or not. Add a button to repeat rune creation. It's so annoying...
Game over for me. It's to late ;o)
ChEEeerzzzzz
Please dont @thorn solar do what @shrewd basinsuggest its not a bug
Like someone else said there are timezones so you have to manipulate so the pools are on a better time for you
change hours will just make someone else not be able to get all items
If u do perfect collection how far can u go without gems
Ok cool
So for progressive island once u got the first reward do u have to wait eight hours to collect the first pool for the second reward or can u just collect it straight away
I did not. I collected my first reward and immediately I was able to collect the quotas for gold, food, and breeding.
I think i have to wait 8 hours
Game has been giving me less items , isntead of 6 gold bags i only got 4 two pools in a row
Very disappointint too that its not a longrr event
You have to restart your game another time and it will give 2 more. So 4+2 is 6 gold items๐
What breeding combo is good for this island?
K
I like firesaur plus firesaur every 8 hours. 15 seconds, one and done
i like thundenix treezard almost always gives me the item
3 simultaneous breeding events. Really? My hatchery just quit.
Why did you participate, then?
its breedy days not really special only more chance
Itโs not possible to do them all without heavy gem spending, the hatchery wonโt support it. I donโt understand the logic behind 3 breeding events at the same time. Weโve got 17 epics to breed, 5 Cain monsters to breed, and then on top of that breedy days.
you have to choose @kindred bluff
the breedydays are supposed to support other ev ents, not be a star event in itself
I think the breedy days event helps the race a lil bit somehow with the breeding L tasks
Is Cain worth spending gems to get
Yes
Thanks
I look forward to that then.
if John says something, take it as an absolute
@kindred bluff wth are cain mobsters
You tell me. I said monsters, not mobsters
Haha
Soooo, Cain's Bodyguard? ๐
ยฟยฟยฟ
Nvm
I dont think he needs a bodyguard
but maybe we should have Cains Bodyguard
to protect other monsters from Cain...
I was referring to the Cain's mobsters comment, so they'll be his bodyguard(s) ๐
@kindred bluff very funny. I obviosuly ment cain monsters
i like cain mobsters tho
its a very cool concept
In case anyone might wonder if itโs possible, I got Cain monster for a total of 17 gems. I used 14 to speed up near the end of the first node to adjust the collection times to suit my schedule, then I did another slight readjust of 3 gems at the end off the second node. I wonโt get thru node 4, but at least I got cain and I didnโt have to wake up at 3am to do it. I probably could have got it done for even cheaper, but I did not calculate collection times at the end of node 1, probably should have but still, 17 gems is a steal.
Yep
I did it with 34 gems no stress n most importantly have sufficient sleep
As an added bonus I did not run into a single Cain Mobster
But I know theyโre still out there ๐ต๏ธโโ๏ธ ๐งโโ๏ธ
Well I figured I made it to Cain, so I must have avoided them.
For now ๐ณ๐งโ ๏ธ ๐
Hmmm this island is all monsters only different from others
it used to be all monsters in the old days ๐



