What problem
#team-wars
tardy oasis
fading spire
Lol
Make a way for the leads chose the players who will be in observation mode because of matching doesn't always fit the same amount of players
tardy oasis
Ah
fading spire
Lol
hollow escarp
This might sound like a silly question, but does anyone know how positioning works in wars?
tardy oasis
Think its overall MP on the current restrictions
hollow escarp
Okie
lost garnet
Like base number? If that's what you think, it's not total MP @hollow escarp, don't know how it works, but I noticed that tanky monsters usually put you higher
Me at least
shy arrow
Yeah andrej seems they look at all monster you have for that element and all runes - seem people with Solo runes rank higher. I been on quite a few teams where i am by far the strongest and I end up around base 10. But most of my monsters are equipped with team runes - seems its always the ones with solo runes on all 3 monsters at top by default.
It varies drastically on POF for example one guy is #1 for one war and then #30 for the next.
lost garnet
Well, those don't even matter anyway ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
We've had cases when the first 5-10 bases should be in the 15-20 range
I also have a lot of team runes and am always ranked low, even with high monster ranks and very good relics (like in this war VS 5A, I'm #21, bug am one out of 3 unattacked players, have 5 lv 20+ relics, 4 golds, 1 diamond (tenacity shield) and 1 bronze (healing amulet), and the most attacking victories (9/9 so far))
And I have 2 130s and a 120, when it comes to monster ranks๐
Can't send screenshots๐ค
vale tide
@lost garnet I'm sure they will get to you towards the end. Lol. We attack from the top... ;)
lost garnet
@vale tide was attacked 4 times, 0 defences (Sparhawk also 3 coined me๐ ), my defence nearly took out 1 monster twice though๐ฌ ๐
And won 12/15, clould got his ult once, otherwise would've been an easy 15/15๐ ๐คง
vale tide
Good job... I'm on holiday or would have helped with 5 / 0... ;)
lost garnet
๐ ๐
fading spire
After waiting almost 2 hours for the matching we got a war 25 vs 26. It seem consider the player who was not eligible for searching. It's happened to someone else?
fading spire
I hope they will fix this soon. I sent a ticket to the assistance.
indigo cosmos
Together won, has been stuck in matching for next war over 4hrs.
regal timber
We stick to 25 and hold off on wars if we are short a player or two. So far that is working, everyone can fight every war.
I donโt know why there are not match ups at every number, but if teams were set to only 15, 20, 25 or 30 and you could have extra soldiers to choose from all the time and leaders could pick the fighters, the only ones who would sit would be the ones the team decided would sit, not the ones the ai decided and then no one would complain.
Almost every war we have a few people who opt out for some reason. If we had 28 players and we were fighting 25 in btb wars no one would miss more than one war every two weeks, that would be totally acceptable.
I wish.
magic bone
Quick question: lately, whenever my Sammy in wars has a status effect on him, and I use Pain Scourge, not only does it not remove the effect, but my game reboots to the title screen. Internet is great, the game just blinks out.
Only in wars. Anyone else have this issue?
copper sphinx
no, but go to #bugs-reporting-battle with that 
@magic bone
fringe flare
Tired of enemy monsters always getting their special move and my control skills always missing. You need to rebalance the computer to
copper sphinx
That's just your luck, there's no rebalancing necessary
wintry cypress
^
lost garnet
You will often have streaks of effects landing/missing, and have streaks of battles with (no) ults
copper sphinx
I had a battle where all my attacks kept missing so I lost two war coins, Demise slapped an Ingvar to death so I got one coin in the end
regal timber
Water thunder thunder. ๐ค
lilac parrot
@regal timber Is there somewhere that we can find what the war monster combo is for a certain day? That would be helpful to know.
reef roost
You mean the rules?
lilac parrot
Yes. the 3 types of monsters for the war. Are they published in advance or available on the day so we can check before we can a war?
reef roost
No they arent published in advance but there is a fb page publishing them as soon as they are changed
lilac parrot
Awesome thanks Marianne
graceful vault
Hi all
Removing (selling) monsters why aren't they removed from our profile? This would be correct for war's power calculation of unique monsters. They will still show up in Monstagram.
wintry cypress
Your profile doesn't update immediately
mortal stag
graceful vault
I Don't think so @wintry cypress. If you have for example 350 unique monsters and sell one. The total should be 349. But this never decrease and I'm sure it's the same for the war calculation. It's not possible to get less power.
If you don't have a monster anymore he should be removed from the total and calculation. ๐ค
wintry cypress
Oh, you mean unique monsters on your profile
graceful vault
Yes.
wintry cypress
It should definitely remove from your MP but I think removing it from monstergram is counterproductive for most
Generally when people talk about monsters on their profile, they mean the bottom part
wintry cypress
Im not sure what you are getting at, the unique monsters is based on your monstagram. Why would you want to lower that anyways?
graceful vault
It's taken in the power calculation for wars.
You can decrease your monster power but not unique monsters.
wintry cypress
You can definitely lower MP if you are constantly getting tough matches, that is the most important statistic for war matching
graceful vault
We do but it's not decreasing so much at all ๐
mortal stag
wintry cypress
Get rid of all those ranked C UC R E breedables
Those bloat your MP and dont make you any stronger
graceful vault
You're right. I'm selling more and more of them because they are from no help. Goal is to decrease power as much as possible. Didn't check E for now. Will attack them soon. lol
Thx and have a nice we
wintry cypress
Np. You too!
blazing igloo
@fleet adder Oh true, El Regreso de Pollitos en fuga VS Valyrian Steelers ๐
I don't know what to put on defense, I have to many controllers but no one with grupal speed xd
reef roost
The build-up for mp should be totally different to get fair matchmaking
reef roost
fleet adder
I'm definitely putting my Samael on defense since he's 130. Then I think I'll go with Kihaku and Charmless for the other two
Could do Brynhilda instead of Kihaku for more Team Speed and a bit more punch, but Kihaku just puts more pressure on the enemy so I'll go with him for sure
vale tide
I see that a lot of players are racing the MP by ranking tons of Rare monsters, now I do not understand why SP should change the rules since everyone knows them since the beginning of the lab, just my opinion
Personally I sell all my little monsters they have 5 stars, I keep very little, I have only 1 Common 5 stars, 1 UC 5 stars, few Rare and few Epics but I sell often
dim night
Itโs all those damn exo skeels you got ๐
vale tide
No worry lol, duplicates give almost nothing ๐
Only 145 MP for Exo Skeel at level 115 with 3 X runes
I pm you a screen FYI @dim night
dim night
Damn thatโs like nothing ๐
vale tide
Yeah, I prefer
vale tide
If you know my monstagram, easy to see that I sold tons of monsters when they had 5 stars, I rank them only for the library
Vault is very expensive, I have 300 slots filled
clear palm
because ideas-and-requests and ideas-discussion is closed at the moment I wrote my ideas to Matchmaking, MonsterPower and the solution to solve the problems with both things in the following forum post.....
vale tide
I read your post, there are some good ideas but others that I like less :
- I think it's necessary to keep war coins in team score, because it's a game and all losing teams must get a index in the matchmaking, the number of war coins is a very good index.
- Agree with you, I think it's a good idea to give more PM to Warmaster and Nemesis
- Runes already count in MP, needless to increase because tons of players move their runes every war...
- I think the real problem is that there are not enough great teams, and that too many players complain every day, we need to learn to have fun even if we have to lose from time to time, and accept to have fun without wanting to succeed better than our neighbor...
clear palm
@vale tide
when war coins are further part of the ranking but not of the matchmaking there is no problem for me. The problem when war coins influence the MatchMaking it will go on that teams moves to new teams to get lower rank and easier opponents.
For me ML is a game. BUT after 20 wars where we win only 2 because all matched opponents are really stronger than we are.... full of nemesis monsters on level 130 with diamond relicts, it is not longer funny. I didnโt expect to win 10 of 10 but 6 of 10 or 5 of 10 should be possible for an active team. At the moment there is no fun. We think to stop war fights ..... we will see....
vale tide
Since many years I've seen tons of teams ranked 50 to 100 win 99% of their wars with very easy matches, and other teams that lose more than 50% of their wars with too many unfair matches. That's what we must ask SP to repair!
I have ask to SP many times that it is not acceptable for a team to lose 2 consecutive times against an elite team. Need an index in the matchmaking to help teams that lose too often
copper sphinx
Teams are based on a ladder system. The more they win, the higher they go. the less they win, the lower they go.
vale tide
Sorry but does not seem to work well, I see that all teams in the top 100 are not treated the same way ... And besides It very strange that top 100 teams do not often match together, more than 80/100 never have met my team
Why some of the top 100 teams are safe with only matchs against small teams ranked 2000 to 5000 and others have always only tough wars ??
The case of Claudius's team does not seem acceptable
The goal of a game is to have fun, but this team lose 18 wars on 20 matchs
clear palm
@copper sphinx
we are #300 and matched 14 times Top 100, 2 times close to us but lower and 4 times between 100 and 300.
@vale tide
I know that some TopTeams have an FB Chat to tell when they start searching opponents. that they donโt match other TopTeams. The other on this FB Chat wait until the team matched....
solid kettle
@clear palm i believe your rank is not a factor for matchmaking im not Sure tbh
I think that Because when we moved to our race teams we had a lower rank ofc because of less war coins ect. But still we got teams equal to our MP (since matchmaking improved)
I agree matchmaking is still a pain for some teams
Speaking for me : I love to win but we hate to fight top 300 teams. For us everything below top 50 is already hmm. .... ๐ฅ the gap is huge.
Itโs not satisfying. Less strategical and demotivating.
Tough wars are super expensive that is why top teams avoid each other. Iโm not a fan of it.
But I also understand those teams
They canโt have close wars only, because of the high costs. And we simply canโt forbid people to talk to each other and hold their roll.
Speaking for my team we love hard winnable matches sometimes sure we love a harder fight to see our weak points and strategy skills.
The prob is :
top teams avoiding each other because of high costs
Long Roll Times for top teams
Small teams suffer because of top avoiding each other.
Solution itโs so simple ๐
Reduce the costs for Rune swapping (so top teams will stop their hide and seek)
Improve matchmaking
@vale tide nice match btw ๐ itโs so intense I check every minute ๐
clear palm
@solid kettle
thatโs why I said, MP needs a new calculation method. MatchMaking on the MP is fair in my opinion and the only fair solution. But MP doesnโt shows the real power of a player anymore. To much changes in the game without impact of the MP.
But you are also right.....
Between Top Teams and all the other Teams is a big gap and it increases. It is also right that some Teams will be able to grow into a Top Team Position (it is a question of money I want to invest). So also the number of TopTeams could increase the question is..... is it increasing.
solid kettle
So true in no way faraday 130 can be same MP like a breedable legend or a breedable epic
junior spire
How did my team rank 7000+ get matched with team rank 500-600 ๐ค
shy arrow
I agree nemesis and warmasters should at least be double the mp. Also relics ne d to be factored in some way. I know this is tough as they would determine if this is for equipped relics or for every relic you own.
Wars are my favorite part of this game and starting to lose interedt with all these bad matchups.
We've matched this poor team ~akincilar~ 3 times out of 5 wars. We are almost ready to just give these poor chaps a win.
I 100% agree they can at least avoid these rematches. Easy to adjust query and just coorelated subquery looking even say previous 10 matches and avoid rematch and also match lower ranked team if lost say 3 in a row.
It's not a permanent fix but it would help for now
solid kettle
Agree ๐ rematches should be possible but not a 3. Time thatโs just cruel
vale tide
So close that I do not want to be last to make the last fight ๐ ๐๐
I want to try base 2 ๐ ๐๐
My lead ask me to wait ๐ But he is nice, he wishes me good luck for my last 2 fights ๐
solid kettle
Pete would be sad if you wouldnt try ๐
vale tide
๐
solid kettle
Itโs really intense but you have the options to win I killed him million times during prep ๐
vale tide
It does not matter if a player loses an attack of too much, both teams give us so much emotions
solid kettle
Now nobody wants to fight ๐๐
vale tide
Congrats to the 2 teams and good luck to those gives us tons of adrenaline, 361/361 atm
solid kettle
Yeah wow amazing war super proud no matter what happens
vale tide
You can, your team is amazing ๐
solid kettle
2 amazing teams the high score shows we both are strategically very good
vale tide
Indeed
solid kettle
My congratulations @vale tide you did very nice job did u record the fights ? Against Pete and jul ?
Pete was such a Quick one ๐ฎ
vale tide
I have a record for you but after the war
You have been great, thank you to your entire team ๐๐๐๐
solid kettle
Sure ๐๐ you have my Fb ? im so looking forward to see
Thank you too it was sure one of my favorite wars
vale tide
I do not have your Fb but I can find I think
copper sphinx
that feeling when your nishants BG gets special twice in a row in a war 
vale tide
Jul's Necromancer play his special skill on first move, a bit scary and I donโt know him very well, no worry I quickly learned and the fight against Pete was faster because I did not need to hesitate anymore
solid kettle
I will send you a message
Amazing war Congratulations to your Team true fighters ๐ช๐ช
vale tide
Good Job Yazhog, where did you know I like it quick ๐ Great War. Thanks a lot.
vale tide
Yw, i hope meet you again, you are great players ๐
analog plinth
@vale tide hell of a war buddy, was fun
wintry cypress
I agree, thanks for an awesome war Magnificent!
fading spire
Matching is one of the most important issue of the game. Many things can be changed to make it better.
I think it's very important to find a way to evaluate precisely the strength of team for the matching. I don't think so it's a good way to do it by calculate runes and relics in the global pm. It should be calculate separately at first and combine after, a little bit as they do for the team score they calculate 3 differents things (war pieces, pm and number of monsters). The first category can be pm, considering add a lot more for nemesis and warmaster. The second for the runes. That should be considerate the ones who are equip. And the third one for relics, considering all of them, equip or not. For relics the value of bronze and silver ones should be very low in my opinion. I know that will be a lot of work to fix the value of items and the percentage of each category but at the in the end the matching will be way more fair.
Another problem with matching is the number of players in the team. It's very hard to be a number who is a multiple of 5 and the matching as he is right now have a hard time to find teams who match between this magic numbers of players. As we know right now it will be impossible for leaders to choose themselves who will bench maybe it will be possible to solve this in thinking differently. I suggest to make possible for leaders to choose players who will count for two. For example, if we are 27 players, leads will be able to click on 3 teammates who will have 2 defense's and match at 30 instead of 27, 26 or 25. It will result to have more available teams for matching and more chances to have a equal one. It will be important to fix rules to be fair. For example, the players who are there twice won't be able to use the same monsters for set up his defenses or attacks. They also have to consider twice the scores of this players in the global team score for matching. In this way we go back in the multiple of 5 for matching only but without the obligation for team to find players to be enough.
Maybe that's not good ideas, but I think it's possible to do something to make better matching and I think that should be the main priority even before battleground or races or any event. Ai problems is also important but it's on another channel
vale tide
it's a good idea to give more MP to Warmaster and Nemesis, but why to increase the runes? And what do you do with gold runes? Runes already count in MP, needless to increase because tons of players move their runes every war, same for relics
reef roost
this was my post on forum:
*I think MP should be the weigh factor but not as its buildup now is:
there should be difference in nemesis(VIP)/WM and normal legends
level 8,9,10 runes equipped or not equipped should give much more mp (now equipped a 10 gives 10 mp)
(silver)gold diamond relics equipped or not equipped should give mp depending on rank, a fully ranked diamond should give a huge amount of mp*
this was Rage added:
*It all points to that direction.
I believe that since MP is what determines which teams we match, then MP should reflect better the actual strength of each player's account.
I would also like to add in your list that C/UC/R monsters should give very little MP.
Epics could give around a quarter of what a legendary gives.
Breedable legendaries could give half the MP of other Legendaries.
Nemesis could give 3 times the MP of other Legendaries.
Warmasters could give 5 times the MP of other Legendaries.
For instance a lvl 60 (4 stars) common doesn't deserve to give 540 monster power which is more or less as much the same as a legendary 110 (2 stars). There is 50 levels of difference, one more relic slot and HUGE difference in stats and skills. The idea merits no logic whatsoever. The same with UC and R monsters.
My lvl 105 (5 stars) Nereida with lvl 7 team speed runes gives me an absurd amount of 1851 MP while my Xiron the Ruby lvl 115 (3 stars) with two lvl 10 speeds and a lvl 9 speed gives me just 844MP.
I would believe my Rare 105 should give me about 150mp and my Nemesis 115 should give me around 5k, because, really, that's the actual difference between these two.*
fading spire
Runes make a big difference in the strength of a player. It's common to see players level 115 with 100 000pm and runes 7. You can also see players with the same level and pm with runes x. You can't consider them equal. I don't see a problem with gold runes because everyone as so it's will be equivalent at the end. It's a small amount of players who moved there runes every wars and not lot of players who will spend gems for cheat his pm. For relics it's not the same, costs only gold so I think it's will be better to count all of them. I think it's better to calculate pm, runes and relics scores individually first and after calculate a total score. It's will be cool to have a number how show the evolution of the players in every categories.
I can't say how much points give each things it's a big job to fix that.
reef roost
still must count equipped or unequipped leve x gold doesnt mattter
still should count
you can change a gold x in 24 hour in a strength
lunar venture
Should unhatched eggs and cells count towards your mp?
reef roost
no
fading spire
A lot of things to consider and think about but they should do it because it's clear for now that pm doesn't show the real strength of players
You can't count something you can't use in my mind
vale tide
Very crazy! i have more than 900 X gold runes... my MP is 525,000, itโs not enough ?? And more than 650 eggs in my storage, maybe I need 1,000,000 MP hahaha
fading spire
In theory you can use unequipped runes so maybe it will be better to count them. But because lot's of players stored lot's of runes maybe it's not fair to calculate them
fading spire
And as I said they probably don't have a lot of players who will spend gems for cheat his pm.
vale tide
A lot of player move their runes
fading spire
Not for make their pm lower
For the wars
When you think that a rune x strength ad 102% on the monsters you should consider that when you calculate the strength specially in regards of matching
vale tide
Go see my monstagram and requests to my team, I delete tons of monsters rated 5 stars to get an acceptable MP, I sell all those are useless for wars
reef roost
no runes should count equipped and unequipped
but r5 rares should count for less
and c and uc
vale tide
My goal is to stay with my friends in the same team, we are ranked 9th I think it's fair
reef roost
mp should not need to be lowered
fading spire
That why it will be good to calculate one category at the time. We have to ask ourselves if the number of monsters and how much you feed them really represents the strength of a player
fading spire
For example, 60% of the global score can be fix with the pm, 25% runes and 15% relics. Number are just fast suggestions for the exemple
vale tide
I donโt understand why the runes? Very crazy!
fading spire
Because it's make all the difference between 2 teams
vale tide
Need only 9 X runes lol
reef roost
no
vale tide
Same fight for all, just 9 runes
fading spire
Big difference between runes 5 and 7 or 8
vale tide
Sorry but in elite war all players move their rune my dear
reef roost
yes my dear i know
reef roost
but you need more then 9 runes
vale tide
Haha 12 if you want ๐
reef roost
now a team from top 200 get teamed against a top 10 thats not fair at all because they have the same mp
fading spire
You can have 2 players with the same level and pm and one with runes 7 and the other one with x, you consider them as equal
vale tide
And you can have one player with my account who lost the fight ๐๐๐คฃ
fading spire
Ai problems is on another channel lol
vale tide
It's been 2 years that I play with runes X, if I put a rune 8 or 9 just to properly adjust the speeds of my monsters
reef roost
im level 138 with an MP of 181266 I have the the same MP as the 30st player from RV with lots of 130 Nem
vale tide
each one his level, but I feel that mine is perfectly estimated by my PM
reef roost
I dont agree lol
vale tide
Really? 525,000 itโs not enough
reef roost
the mp should be build different thats what im saying
vale tide
it's 3 times more than yours lol
reef roost
if you have 10 130 nem then thats should count different then 10 normal Legendary
fading spire
I'm a medium players and I think that it will be important to evaluate the strength properly. Some players with bigger pm have smaller runes and relics and less monsters up than me for example but in regards of pm they have more strength. Doesn't make sense
vale tide
Agree for Nemesis but not for runes
reef roost
also for runes
fading spire
You think a player with runes 6 is equal to one with runes x
fading spire
4 points it's not enough to represent reality
reef roost
thats what im saying
vale tide
Sorry just FYI rune X = 15 MP ๐
reef roost
15 or 10 sorry thats still a minimum
vale tide
13,500MP for me, not enough but gold runes is unfair, just my opinion
fading spire
15 points on how much, it's really not enough considering he more than double the power of monsters
reef roost
I can understand your gold runes objection but you still can change 10 into anything you want
fading spire
Gold runes represent some kind of how much gold you produce and as the gold is the most important in this game, except gems, can represent by the side the strength of players
So including gold runes is ok for me
vale tide
All players can, just need 12 runes, I already said
reef roost
so if you have 10 X gold runes you can change them into 10 strength runes
fading spire
If you want spend money to cheat your pm and have only 12 runes go for hit.
vale tide
I do not need to change my gold runes, be sure I have my warriors in my Vault, you can see my islands you will not see any warriors
reef roost
and i dont agree you only need 12 if that was true I would stop having more runes now
vale tide
Say instead that moving the runes are expensive
reef roost
thats because you choose to play the game different and you gather gems because you have those gold runes
vale tide
Lol, just because I need a lot of gold but believe me I have more than 130 warriors equipped with runes. I only move for some strategies in great wars
I have 296 monsters in my Vault
reef roost
I understand that its tough to fight elite wars but it the choice the team made to be in top 25, its not fair that that teams that are below that have to face them tsome times 3 times in a row
vale tide
No need craft my gold runes
fading spire
The rules will be the same for everyone anyways. The only difference will be they can be more realistic
reef roost
I cant effort 296 monsters in a vault and im not agains you having gold runes maybe gold runes shouldent be made to change
because you cant fight with them
vale tide
I have more than 300 X runes in my warriors, not gold runes !!
Do not mix please, the problem is that there are not enough great teams, the top 100 contains 80 small teams it is not the fault of the top 20
fading spire
When a team with a ranking around 200 have a top 3 team as opponent it's show that something went wrong
vale tide
do you think that the top 3 teams in the ranking must only play together? be serious please
reef roost
also I think the vault should give gold you already bought the slots for a lot of gems you should get gold from them its another discussion but thats what i think
there is a different between 3 teams and 25 teams
fading spire
No but if the strength score his calculate different and his more real, that's not supposed to happen.
vale tide
I do not agree that the monsters of the Vault give gold, it would be unfair to those who can not pay the slots
fading spire
That's a thing to think about, but I'm sure that the players who have equivalent strength than you probably have the same amount of monsters in vault
Maybe they can count for a little bit less I don't know
vale tide
Same for 25 teams, all the top 100 teams must matched together, just that the loser must be protected for not getting a second war with the same team the next match
fading spire
He have a way to make that more representative of reality
You like been match with a team who are 200
reef roost
we will have to agree to disagree on this I think there there is maybe a to big of a gap between elite players and not elite players, elite players want to be elite players and pay for it, at this moment there is a big unhappiness in the sub top (sub elite) players both are spenders now the there has to be a change
vale tide
Yes because I put level 100 with runes level 6 ๐
fading spire
It's not everybody who does that unfortunately
vale tide
I know
fading spire
So we have to find a way to make the matching better because players are annoyed about it
reef roost
so annoyed they are quitting
fading spire
Exactly
lunar venture
i remember my team were match with the RV even though our mp doesn't match theirs
fading spire
And it's difficult to find good players to replace them. At the end we don't play a game we loose our time recruiting
vale tide
Marianne, I see tons of players trying hard to get into the ranking, and then they're frustrated because they're living a hell, sorry but a lot of players do not understand that the top 10 is not for them
fading spire
I know top 10 teams will never be for me that's why I want equivalent opponent
reef roost
but I also hear players asked not to tell what they are matched the elite because then others will know when they roll ๐ข
wintry cypress
I think the main issue with war matching is that it's so spread out. Even in the top 100 teams, spread a war out over 48 hours and only 1 top 100 team is starting to roll every half hour.
And obviously something like #1 vs #70 is not a good match even within that.
vale tide
I think the top 10 has to match only the top 100, but I do not know if it's possible because we have very long matchmaking, more than 2 hours each time and sometimes 4 hours, it's too long
fading spire
It's a part of the problem to. And the number of players for matching doesn't help that
wintry cypress
I think war matching would be significantly better if matching was at preset intervals. Also, fixing the MP calculation to more accurately reflect strength would make a HUGE difference too.
reef roost
because also there people avoid eachother
lunar venture
personally i would rather prefer longer matching making than being stuck in unfair wars.
wintry cypress
I agree
And I have come to realize that many top teams go out of their way to avoid tough matches and end up regularly facing teams that are significantly weaker. That shouldn't be possible imo.
fading spire
The fact that we can match at any number of players doesn't help to
lunar venture
i know some elite players get bored with fighting with lower level players, but also other elite player are too afraid to fight against other elite teams
vale tide
I have already waited more than 8 hours often, would you like that? believe me this is not acceptable to us because you matched in a few minutes and so you do more wars than us
wintry cypress
If you are #10 for example, I don't think you should be facing anything outside of the top 25. Mismatched wars are no fun for either side in my experience.
reef roost
lol i have to go to sleep love this tho its halve past 2 ๐ฌ
lunar venture
that should not be the case, elite team must go against each to prove who's better and stronger than hiding and trying to keep their ranks.
vale tide
Good night Marianne
reef roost
love our discussion ๐ค
wintry cypress
I agree that is too long Yazhog, which is why I suggested preset match times. For example everyone matches at the same time and that time shifts half an hour every day.
lunar venture
good night marianne
fading spire
It's not just a question of not matching with top team, it's for matching equal at any level and have real chance to win with good preparations and attacks
reef roost
thanks all
wintry cypress
That way with everyone matching at the same time, matches can be much fairer and no one can avoid tough/close matches in favor of easy ones.
Good night Marianne!
fading spire
Good night Marianne
wintry cypress
I suggest to have the time shift because obviously certain times are better for different timezones
fading spire
Someone knows if sp plan to do something about that
vale tide
@lunar venture A lot of teams do not want big wars because they are very expensive, up to 500 gems for each player in RV ... Fortunately this is not the case for all teams, I think Hounds is one of the teams the most competitive atm, great respect for them
lunar venture
Still it feels wrong to be just stuck fighting lower or mid tier teams, rather than team in the same tier as them.
wintry cypress
Thanks Yazhog ๐
The Magnificent is very competitive too ๐, I respect you guys as well
vale tide
The competition at the top of the rankings is so strong that respect disappears ... many do not hesitate to crush the little ones to progress faster ...
Ty Richter
fading spire
How the medium teams can progress if they match with bigger opponent most of the time
wintry cypress
I think it is very hard to balance. I love tough wars but having every war be a close, tough match would be exhausting (and expensive). I admit i'm not a fan of teams purposely avoiding matches and only matching weaker teams though.
lunar venture
Idk, maybe make a second option in team wars. Like fighting against your own team, or something like that.
vale tide
if for you an medium team is in the top 100, then it will progress by meeting the best teams, you must learn to progress
fading spire
Medium team for me it's between 500 and 100. Regular players with runes 6 and more, they can't fight with team with runes x
vale tide
I already said that the top 10 should not meet a team below the top 100, let alone a small team under 500
fading spire
Ok I agree with that. My point is if the calculation of the strength is more realistic, we will have more chances to fight a equivalent opponent
vale tide
Right
fading spire
If you want I don't care about ranking of my team, I care about war pieces we win
Sometimes we know we can't win the war even if we do the best preparations and finish with 0 attacks left. It's not supposed to be like that, it's just not fun
vale tide
War coins are used to buy hardened monsters, generals are very useful monsters, spending coins in an smart way, runes are not a good idea ...
fading spire
I know that
But runes have a huge impact on the strength so should be considered at the real value they added to monsters
vale tide
Which team do you play in?
fading spire
A small team in regards of your critters lol
French team you probably don't know and we change after the last race
It's probably because you seem play for a long time. Runes takes lots of time to craft or buy when you don't put a lot of money in the game
wintry cypress
Yeah, X runes giving 10 MP makes literally zero sense. Lol. A 130 with no runes vs a 130 with X runes should be a significant MP difference.
fading spire
I play from a year and a half. It's not the same
But I don't understand why they calculate that in the mp for me it will be better to calculate that separately
I know that and runes x are very cool but when you think at the percentage that ad to the monsters it's make a huge difference and should be consider
It's probably possible to do it easily so why not
vale tide
I think all the teams that go into the top 100 have to use X runes, so just safe the lower teams and have the top 100 teams play together as much as it possible
fading spire
I think that sp should consider the gaming experience as a priority. We are supposed to have fun not annoying because the matching is often not fair. Many things can be do to fix that, I just ask them to do something logic and realistic
vale tide
I think it must be quite complicated, because we have been asking SP for over one year and they have worked a lot to improve it, I hope they will continue to get more fair matchs.
See you, bed time for me
fading spire
They have to see the problem on another way to resolve it. And listen the many ideas players have, all together we can find the solution.
Good night
vale tide
MP and monstagram represent the possibilities of the players and also the seniority.
Here are some comparisons to understand the power difference of the teams in the ranking of the top 100 teams :
MP of top 100 teams :
- 1st: 11.18M MP = 372,000MP & 153 monsters at 5 stars / player
- 4th: 8.1 M MP = 270 000 MP & 111 monsters at 5 stars / player
- 10th: 6.29 M MP = 209 000 MP & 86 monsters at 5 stars / player
- 50th: 3.51M MP = 117,000 MP & 48 monsters at 5 stars / player
- 100th: 2.78M MP = 92,600 MP & 38 monsters at 5 stars / player
Unique Monsters of top 100 teams :
- The 10th to 2000 monsters less than 1st = 66 more monsters / players
- The 50th to 1700 monsters less than the 10th = 56 more monsters / players
- The 100th to 800 monsters less than the 50th = 26 more monsters / players
It is easy to see that the first team does not really have a rival, and that the gap between the first team and the 10th team is absolutely huge.
The top teams sacrificed a lot of hours and spent a lot of money to succeed.
I think it's really ridiculous to want to prevent best teams from playing like the others, they have to get a match in a reasonable time too, and they have to be able to team up with any team in the top 100 team rankings.
I do not know why the top teams never match the top 100 teams. Why they are protected because I see mostly tons of unfair matchs with lower teams.
I know that all P2W players wants to win, and if you prevent them they will be frustrated and leave the game, that's what happened since last year, thousands of great players have gone disgusted. I think that everyone need to have fun, and ML needs great players in the rankings, since it's them who motivate the new ones to progress
Already start with a much stronger MP for Nemesis and Warmasters, and we will surely obtain good improvements.
shy arrow
Nice breakdown Yazhog and nice points above.
I'll come out and say it without pointing any fingers as I have been saying this to SP for over a year:
One of the main reasons matchmaking is busted is roll groups (groups of teams that watch when other teams roll so they can avoid them) and teams deliberately avoiding equal rank matches.
Like you pointed out above Yazhog if we look at even the the top 20 teams there. If all 20 teams watches when other teams roll they will not match another top 20 team and thus will always be mismatched.
I know that's why they enabled the hide war log feature but it hasn't helped much and tbh i miss seeing people's war logs. They should just hide the Date and Time info for non team members but still show the logs as lots to be learned from those.
SP can change all they want but if teams aren't actually searching - it changes very little.
I was thinking something like this:
Auto matchmaking - there is 3 hour cooldown period (if desired) so you can either just search again right after war or you can wait but after 3 hours you are thrown in the pool.
Idle mode - you can choose to go in to idle mode after the 3 hours (with a little toggle button in lead/co view)...
...but the kicker would be that teams in idle mode would lose team score points for every hour they are idle so this would motivate people to roll if they cared about their rankings.
vale tide
Agree, I have often thought that the only solution is to match all the teams at the same time, even the principle that battleground is for me the best solution. Just need that the lead requests a war and that the AI โโlaunches every 4 hours, for all the teams who asked.
But maybe 4 hours is not enough to prevent teams from avoiding each other, we'll never stop the leads from giving their wars time in pm... maybe a matchmaking every 12 hours or maybe your idea of โโputting a penalty for motivate teams to roll
solid kettle
Agree
But some leads believe itโs their right to decide who they match and avoid certain matches
Battlegrounds Matching was very close for us but I heard about a lot of mismatchings too
I was happy to see that battlegrounds only allowed the top 60 to match each other
We have to mention here that the gap is huge 10-20 is a huge gap already from place 5-10 also Huge gap
Main prob is people avoid each other and high costs.
If I want to set a perfect def for our current war I would need 600-700gems only for defense ๐
thatโs arround 20โฌ
For 1 war ok for close matches we do that
Letโs say 50% of my team would need to do that too. Thatโs 300โฌ for 1 war to get 400+ war coins best case
To access a teamshop that is not really attractive
Thatโs why I feel we need a whole new teamshop concept aswell
People complain about the New teamshop
ยซ Its not even worth warring for ยป I agree with that
I think a whole new teamshop concept is needed and would be great
What we thought about is ofc chests
So instead of runes add a rune and relic chest.
R&R chest
Includes : 2 relics ( odds 1 bronce guaranteed. Other one 10% Silver 5% gold ) 1 random rune level 7
Price 1700 war coins
That would be so nice for low level players and also for high level players that have enough runes already
convert runes to gold runes and use relics for a bit xp. Low level will use them as they are.
Instead of monsters which are super old and super lame add a Exclusive monster chest.
Exclusive monster chest
Contains : 1 random monster rank 0 from a monster pool (9 monsters)
They could be themed
During September autumn monsters
Winter winter monsters
Or related to traits
Price: 2500 war coins
We need something furious ๐ too keep people motivated and we need a reduction on Rune swap price to make top teams stop that hide and seek.
reef roost
That I dont understand that they think they are intiteled we all decide for ourselves what we spend on a game if someone spends 1000's or nothing shouldent make any difference
shy arrow
Well Vali is right the cost of close match wars at the competitive level can be quite high and no its not worth it definitely not worth it for B2B elite wars. To counter that would also be reduce the cost of rune swapping and changing moves. I think teams would do elite style wars all day if the costs were brought down. I personally think there is enough content in the game generating revenue that things like moving runes (even if it were 3 free moves / day so people dont literally get 3 x runes and thats all they use) and changing moves should be free. That would also eliminate the dodging.
And yes I agree the team shop needs updated - even just single bronze and silver chests so we can be converting all this hard work and money on wars in to relic xp - sorry but thytes and her bg and hayman isn't very motivating.
vale tide
Well Vali, you do not like Cupid and Hayman ๐๐คฃ
shy arrow
hayman not even high gpm lol
vale tide
Yeah but Rabbit is good lollll
shy arrow
lol - he has 0cd stun ๐
vale tide
Team shop is very bad atm, a lot of players say that war coins are useless, so sad to hear this
I used Rabbit a lot in 2015, but I do not think I will use him again, but his trait is very good for offense
shy arrow
Yep maybe even a couple exclusive team shop relics. Say 2 diamonds and 2 golds that are only available in team shop and then can only be levelled up by the same relic (so essentially can only be levelled up with wc)
vale tide
Christmas is still very far but I love the idea ๐
vale tide
Yeah... I would like to get my relics more easily
But monsters ranked are most useful to progress in Team wars, and low-level players do not really do, I do not think putting relics in Team shop can help to low-level teams, but rather the opposite... I see in the rankings too many low-level teams with tons of epics at 5 stars and tons of race monsters at level 115...
jade glade
Just make TS great again
solid kettle
well hayman O.o i thought about getting him for fun but no way
i started to get things for the libary now what i actually hate i try to keep my MP low as possible and rank only what is needed.
having monster chest at the teamshop will make people feel more confident about purchasable chests aswell
people tend to not buy what they dont know since they are afraid of a rip off.
people that bought relics tend more to buy again because they already know what could be inside.
i imagine that chest at the teamshop 2500 WC and i think its a high price need to win a lot of wars
(when they increased rune prices i think it was mentioned that a average team wins 1500 WC per month
ofcourse some do more some less depends on many things)
so to obtain that chest you need to fight for 2 month more or less, or use a war coin frat (would be finally worth it )
lets think about something that could be inside
9 really cool monsters just one example i would like to see
female teamshop chests : 2500 WC
sarah
baba yaga
nishant bodyguard
general thetys
mommey
general shannara
commander alvid
cyan nathura
gretchen
i would totally get it. 10 of them.
lets make the teamshop great again ๐ so its worth to war and spend money on war coin frats.
thorny crater
I am wondering something.. For teams with irregular numbers how dose the match process work ?26,28 30 or can it be on the ones 26 27 28 29
steel sinew
It can be any number. If a 29 team matches a 26 team, youโll both use 26 players and 3 from the 29 will sit out
lost garnet
Or they could just add better( and newer) monsters in the team shop, like baba or ihti for like 2000+
lost garnet
Or get IX back in there for a lot of coins
copper sphinx
i would love the X's back for 1.7k coins
highest rune ive ever crafted is a 7 and ngl i cannot be bthered with crafting runes
also it takes 262144 level I rune to craft a lvel 10 rune without gambling
vale tide
There have never been X runes in the team shop
Each week you earn 4 runes lvl 4 in the dungeon, you need craft with 3 runes team speed lvl 1
thick trout
@solid kettle what you said earlier โI was happy to see the top 60 only matched with each otherโ that is not true
Our team matched with the #41 ranked team
We are not even in top 100
Or top 200 for that matter
We were ranked 228 and got matched with 41
(And we still won) ๐
fading spire
As it is right now, almost 30% of the 100 top teams are 29 players or less. It's not surprising that top teams fight against smaller teams. The problem of matching are not just a question of pm. It's also about the number of teams available. Try to help us with the changes about the number of players we need for the matching doesn't work. It doesn't help enough with players who bench and the matching have a hard time to find equal teams. It's the time where normally I'll suggest something but does it really matter. Make changes need the desire to do it. And when I see some answers they give to me, now I dough it. I'm not sure they have the same priorities. Problems don't take years to solve doesn't make sense. They have all that in their hands now. I hope and see.
solid kettle
@thick trout wow it said + 150k teamscore should get tier 1 reward
only the top 60 had 150k teamscore so i believed they can only match each other ๐ฎ
thick trout
Nope, and we won and still got the lower tier reward
They got a better reward than we did and they lost
solid kettle
wow so broken
shy arrow
i hate promoting the idea of chests at all @solid kettle - none of those chests you suggested I would even buy
turbid panther
^
shy arrow
I seriously hate chests - put the monsters or relics in the team shop - no need for the chests
solid kettle
We wonโt get rid of them I bet
shy arrow
well no point suggesting more imo - in a place where chests dont exist like the team shop
just my thoughts
as i wouldnt buy any of those ๐ฆ
love the new content idea (except have all those females ranked) - hate the chests
solid kettle
I get your point ๐
shy arrow
they can have thier chests but leave them out of the team shop - please! ๐
solid kettle
Not a chest fan either but I found peace with them so trying to make the best out of it ๐คฃ
shy arrow
i have no peace once you have a big profile every chest just contains duplicates
would you buy a sevon wonders chest in team shop? lol
shy arrow
if they can guarantee that you didnt get a duplicate of a 130 monster then maybe
pretty much everyone on our team has all those females at 5 star already
solid kettle
Well think about the average player too beginners ๐
shy arrow
if they gonna do it just put those monsters on sale in team shop
i think about ALL players
small to medium players have lots to buy in team shop already
solid kettle
Brb soccer โฝ๏ธ๐
shy arrow
no worries - just my thoughts since channel closed - i def dont want to see those TS only relics in chests
have a good one
reef roost
I hope an think there is no future in chests because of legislation
runic shale
ML is getting better every day. How can a team in #520 get the # 5ranking? Why do that? This team combination algorithm can only be wrong!!!
tardy oasis
Ew chests ๐
Lol fer. Once we were on a new race ream. And we matched pof
We were lower then rank 1k
sick urchin
Happens fer thatโs why u need to rank up ur monsters to at least lvl 115
stone reef
HI ALL!
I JUST WANT TO COMMUNCATE THAT NOW THE "ALLIANCE DESCRIPTION" CAN CONTAIN UP TO 150 CHARACTERS. PREVIOUSLY WAS ONLY 100.
clear panther
Thank you that is most convenient. ๐๐ป๐
steel sinew
I guess I shall delete idea #85 then! ๐
reef roost
lol
ashen lantern
To me team wars are a joke anymore....constantly get matched with team that there is no chance in beating and then maybe the one here and there that's a decent matchup......I loved this game when I started playing anymore honeslty it's a joke.....money talks and thats all they care about anymore it seems.....game used to be fun not anymore....sorry and to me it seems like they just dont care....that's my two sense not that it matters.....and yes we r up against POF this war 9 out of the last 10 wars have been ridiculous matchups like this!
clear palm
@ashen lantern
same here.....
from the beginning of team wars my team had over all a win-loose-ratio from 6:4 or 6:5. My team was and is active. But now we had 30 wars and won 4. the other 26 wars were only opponents where we had never a chance to win.
We tried to make a new team to look whatโs happen than. Situation doesnโt change. at the moment we are only victims and Coins maker for payer and top teams.
In wars you have only a chance as payer or fighter player, As monster collector you are ranked to high. no chance to get a fair matching. Calculation of MP and rank, doesnโt reflect any longer correct strength of a player and a team,
ashen lantern
No it doesn't and we as a team have moved teams and lowered MP on a ton of players, myself I lowered over 60,000 and it doesn't help at all it gets worse actually......what gets me the most is you try and message them and get answers but I get back how its caculated......I can read I knew that already.....but it makes so sense who it matches you with even with those calculations.....if it wasnt for the people in the game that I have met and became friends with I honeslty dont know if I would be here anymore.
clear palm
@ashen lantern
when the team wouldnโt ne so nice and we are not so close together.....
I would finish playing ML some time ago.
we will see how this is going on. But at the moment the great fun factor, which we had a long time and a long time ago, is gone. โน๏ธ
twilit stream
They should focus on improving team wars matchmaking knowing tis event really drive players to play rather then introducing new events which at tis present moment they could barely handle with all the bugs n glitches
reef roost
They are looking into completely revamping TW matchmaking.
@ashen lantern @clear palm @twilit stream
ashen lantern
Thanks that will be awesome if it's done right.....cant keep going on like this....theres no fun in it anymore at all....just wish you would get responses like this when you message not the crap replays you get now. They just frustrate you more.
copper sphinx
Yea, I find that our once almost 10k coin average is falling.
proven coral
Dixson cider 51/450(only 10attacks not used)..... POF 450/450
tardy oasis
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rain parrot
Oh my ...
ashen lantern
Yep that's lovely SP matchmaking at you finest! Let's hope its fixed right this time!
mortal stag
reef roost
we had 5 attacks
zinc smelt
... baroness on a defense team?
vale tide
I do not think Baronness is really useful for defense, itโs better to use him for attack
clear panther
Her. ๐
copper sphinx
I use her for attack and she's pretty useful. I just need another rune experience :p
lost garnet
^ Yazhog
copper sphinx
NBG, Baroness and a possessor or attacker ;)
reef roost
45 minutes is long but can be much longer
vocal heron
Hello! We have requested equipment war only a couple of hours ago. My team placed 1,474 - 82,09 K, has been paired with Five Atacks, 4 in general classification and 251,9 K. My jaw almost falls when I see it. This is not normal. NO NO NO. Please fix the team wars, they are not right. We have lost not only the war, also 2 days, and a lot of desire to stay playing. Please, fix it.
copper sphinx
Please post a screenshot of the teams as this is bad.
balmy nova
Well, unfair matchmaking in Team Wars has been happening a while ago . . . My team has been paired with PoF, SoD and Touchdown to name a few and we were ranked at #800 at that time . . . Every1 in my team sent a ticket to Support and no answer
That matchmaking system needs to be improved
I know it takes time, but players in general just kinda feel disappointed getting paired with teams they know they don't even stand a chance for winning, thus most of them don't even try to make a single attack in wars
vale tide
Raising one's MP shouldn't be penalized..
Especially with battlegrounds out, we are supposed to have numerous fed up legends.
That just contradicts the way team war matchmaking works.
Imo, the matchmaking should add up only MP from the monsters that are displayed in the profile pages of the team members.
That way i believe you can have a fair matchup while players are still free to feed up other monsters without affecting matchmaking.
That would however require that the nemesis isn't displayed at the top of the profile page even if lower level.
clear palm
@vale tide
here you can see an calculation Idea,
vale tide
Sorry. We on 5A feel bad with the current match up too. :(
clear panther
I love it when the Top Teams place some gold Rune monsters, I really feel that is a wonderful gesture for the other team.
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vale tide
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tardy oasis
Since when is that good
twilit stream
Not at all
I would rather not do my attacks due to opponents lowering their bases not the way to improved n gain experience from top teams
turbid panther
twilit stream
Why can't just take it as a challenge
vale tide
I do not want a member of my team to put gold runes on an unfair war, but we always put 10 bases with low ranked monsters, with speed and strengh runes, so that the weaker opponents can have fun . for the player like you @twilit stream , it remains our other 20 bases ๐
vale tide
To improve matchmaking, I suggest SP consider using a dummy profile page for each player (similar to our profile pages but without reserving spots for the nemesis on top, or in other words, all monsters mixed up)
Then sum up the MP from the dummy profile page monsters alone.
Factor in total rune value of the player
And total coins last 30 days(this should not be priority and only to be considered if matchmaking takes too long)
Then sum up the total value of each player in the team.
twilit stream
@vale tide thx for clarifying ๐๐ค
clear palm
@clear panther
please donโt misunderstand me. I can understand your idea and why you or your team is doing that.
If there is a basically fair match-making, then I feel that with the Gold Rune rather than a rudeness. In the time when the matchmaking was still such that we won and lost well distributed, so it was just that we have lost to top teams. In such wars we also had the opportunity to try and learn against strong defense teams. Therefore, I felt the intentional, if not previously agreed, make it weaker rather than a sign of arrogance and an additional demonstration of superiority.
Likewise I feel it with clearly superior teams an impudence in the preparation phase intentionally weaker to make then shortly before beginning of war the strong monsters into the defense. We are not stupid and recognize stronger teams from our experience immediately, as these games are not necessary.
I know you are looking all times to contact the other team to talk to them. This is a great thing from you and your team.
So what I wrote is not addressed to you and your team. I only want to show another view on this idea when it is done without communication. I know there are a lot of other leaders and teams which are not in the same mood than you and your team.
clear panther
Our Team doesnโt do that, I was just saying that we as a Team are grateful when we get matched with a stronger opponent that they do that. ๐
Every little war coin won is appreciated in our war. ๐
steel sinew
Yeh I donโt think the idea was instead of good matchmaking. Just if there is a very one sided matchup then a chance at coins is never a bad thing ๐.
Realistically thereโs very little Iโm going to learn again 3 130 nemesis with X runes when my monsters are level 100, other than that theyโll beat me to a pulp before Iโve even made a move ๐
clear palm
@clear panther
It's quite possible that I mistook you for another Helen ๐๐
clear panther
Ha ha. When all Levels are 130. Itโs fun to try and last for 20 seconds. ๐
Our team has moved up recently, but we need to level out ๐ฌ
reef roost
@clear palm Helen gets that a lot but she isnt a Hellfire ๐
unreal gulch
Just a thought, it would be easy for the system to chance when an extreme mismatch has occurred. Each teams defense are initial automatically chosen, they after matching 1st thing I do is check where in opponent team I'm 'matched' to. So if I'm top 5 in my team and matched to bottom 5 in opponent, then it's a mis-match.
hollow hound
Yeah but their placements of people have always been wrong. Iโve had teams where the hardest to beat has been placed as 27th. Therefore who they choose is wrong anyway
There are many flaws with wars and the matching system which sp have never tackled in the years Iโve been playing. There will always be mismatches. Those who win and those who lose. Just the way it works ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
The fact they base it on MP and Unique monsters collected is beyond ridiculous. But alas, you win some and ya lose some
unreal gulch
Yes, not always correct, but surely it's better to start somewhere even if it only eliminates the extreme mismatches. Too many variables to get fair matches all the time, high mp, low activity vs high activity low mp; mp not showing true strength, relics, runes.
turbid folio
Hardest to beat has so many variable's I'm not sure if it can be pre programed. My reasoning is because the player can change what the ai picked at time of match. That's the lovely part of strategy
spare abyss
@ SP.. Please can you confirm the individual percentage weighting on the War Coins, Unique Monsters And MP. I have been reading through the comments above and I understand that I am not alone in the frustration of our team being mismatched time and time again with teams who are in a totally different ranking and strength bracket to us. Being continually matched with teams with level 130 monsters and full X runes is no fun as the outcome is clear to see before war even begins. Then even more frustrating is when we are rematched with the very same team again the very next war even after waiting a considerable time before beginning the matchmaking process. This happens time after time. We have even been rematched previously with the same team 3 times in a row. Is this what SP considers to be fair matchmaking? I have been playing this game for several years now and I believe the current matchmaking process to be the worst it has ever been. Myself and others are becoming to feel extremely disillusioned with the game. Itโs very disappointing all the recent changes are destroying the fun in this game and for sure more and more long term players will be leaving due to the outlined current issues unless the unfair matchmaking processes are addressed. If the matchmaking process can be resolved you will have so many more ecstatically happy players. Thank you for reading.
fallen mason
matchmaking is rotten in all kinds of way
we spread our team for a few wars just to be able to do something
delicate musk
Hi there,
I'm missing runes in team shop once they gave us runes IX on team shop after then they never give us any again
jade glade
Yeah so why are you missing runes? They removed lvl IX runes long time ago from TS
tardy oasis
He misses them as . He wants them back
fallen mason
I feel yo pain
prisma swallow
@spare abyss can you tell me your team name?
balmy nova
@spare abyss I'm having the same problem with machtmaking in Team Wars . . . last war was matched with #4 and our team is not even ranked between the #100
Hope there's a revamp regarding matchmaking system soon although I know it's a complex feature in the game
formal cipher
It needs to start with a revamping of mp. so that it gives a more fair and accurate reading. Then from there find a way to make sure teams are not matching to high or low.
shy arrow
^ both MP and Team Score need revamping
sick urchin
When are they gonna implement VIP, EXCLUSIVE, and WINTER books in wars?
jade glade
VIP and Exclusive don't have to be in TW as many people don't own monsters in those books
steel sinew
I doubt VIP will be in. Exclusive is fine though. With Ingenica cells being given away like candy most people can get 1. I mean I have 5 without ever spending.
rain grove
We need Winter though. It has enough mons to work in wars.
copper sphinx
^
gusty raft
Anyone having problems with matchmaking? It keeps cancelling or it won't find opponent
hidden tide
no marcel its working fine
rain parrot
Fair matchup, our team has 1,944 Million MP and our opponent has 732,468 ...
copper sphinx
i mean last war iirc our 900k mp and theirs had 2.5mil mp
fallen mason
did you win with all 450 coins?
copper sphinx
we lost 182-294
Shadow Walker Clan (enemy)
2.507mil MP
302 wars won
Tha Birdz (my team)
948529MP
120 wars won
fallen mason
but you are nicely matched
copper sphinx
not really?
that wasnt a good match
TBT to when we got double matched with Las Sariguellas and lost both wars
fallen mason
of course it wasnt
we have lost 9/10 wars
and most did aall their att
only 10 or less left
still looing
losing
fallen mason
I have started to forget the taste of winning
copper sphinx
:(
rose inlet
So I've got pretty good book coverage and mostly all at level 100. But I've been using level III runes mostly, I'm worried about the removal cost. What is a safe level rune to use where I can stay pretty competitive? V? VI? Or can I get by with III's for a while.
reef roost
It depends on your opponents in war try to have higher level runes than your opponents in war with the same level, to stay competetive you cant avoid replacing runes for higher ones
My alt is lvl 66 the rune building is 8 i use all different leveled runes but i see lots of higher players with lower runes who I can beat easy
queen forge
I would like to propose an auto roll to prevent the fake elite teams from avoiding hard wars
hollow hound
That wouldnโt prevent anything, they need to fix the matchmaking
And would mean you war at times you donโt wanna war
clear palm
I am actually in the mood, that I set as defence, when we can see there is no chance to win because of a top team match, the weakest monsters I have. Just as a protest against this extremely frustrating situation.
I know that this wonโt help, But the winning team will also not enjoy to beat me.
My attacks I will do with my good monsters, the coins we can make, but to win against us shouldnโt not any longer interesting. ๐ค๐ค๐ค
we discuss and discuss, and discuss again and again and nothing happen since weeks and months. We can, as last reaction, stop with the wars. to see whatโs happen when the number of active teams decrease, and a lot of CashCow teams realizes that there is no more an opponent for them. ๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ฌ
The most important thing in the team at the moment is transferring cells to our teammates. Everything else is in 90% frustrating ๐ค๐ค๐ค
in releasenotes for version 7.1.5 I canโt also found any comment to the matchmaking.....
delicate musk
I want runes on team shop please give us level 9 and 10 runes on team shop
turbid panther
copper sphinx
upvoting your own post is a great way to make it look popular 
hollow hound
They should make the runes cheaper as well. It used to be 1.6k for a lvl 9. And the fact it takes ages to save up that much due to the shocking matchmaking makes it hard enough already.
lost garnet
You're supposed to buy them during discounts (IX for 255, X for 345) 
hollow hound
Hence why I said about cheaper prices ๐
copper sphinx
I usually buy a level 6 and save like 50%, then 1-1-1 it. There's only minor buffs between 6 and 7 any ways
fleet cave
If you activate runes gaurdian after a war starts, will it apply to those runes on your war base monsters?
Omg
I never knew that
Haha
I had always activated it to help defensively
Woops
steel sinew
Maybe your good intentions motivated them to defend better ๐
fleet cave
Yes yall are thx so much
vale tide
@wise otter rematch? Restrictions fits for us ๐๐ฃ
turbid panther
Pestilence Traps.
rose lantern
It used to be Element - Element - Rarity (any, random) every war. Then changed to Element - Book - Rarity (any). Which was better than now IMO, because it allowed some scope for cunning to overcome brute (p2w) force.
lost garnet
Now any slot can be either element/book/rarity... Which allowed for the triple C
But when book wars were introduced C and UC stopped being war restrictions... So how did the triple C happen
solid kettle
tripple C is something i really dont Need. and dont like.
steel sinew
I know there have been special events which were triple C. Is this just a random occurrence of it?
solid kettle
pauper days
lost garnet
April Fool's is triple C
rose lantern
Looks like it. But I could be more cynical and say that Battlegrounds are coming, and... moving runes....
solid kettle
the Chance to get 3 C random out of millions of combinatios โฆ i think ull ratger hit the Jackpot
steel sinew
Heh. Maybe itโs... September fools. I dunno. I doubt itโs random.
lost garnet
September Fool's 
steel sinew
I thought maybe it was the spanish April fools day, but thatโs in December ๐
solid kettle
during TB would be better
but still no Need for September fools LOL๐
rose lantern
Anyway, all good fun. Less chance of a David toppling a Goliath now that Goliath has a bucket full of Relics, but still nice for mid ranked teams to snack around with the big end of town on a more even-ish playing field.
vale tide
Hello. How long rules in war are on for 24 h or longer?
rose lantern
Usually 24 hours unless it is an event, in which case it can go for longer. These C rules are likely an event - but could be in error and so pulled earlier than 24 hours. So.... upshot: until an SP rep or dev says something, there is no best guess - these rules could last 3 days or 3 hours. Sorry.
lost garnet
^
vale tide
Ahh ok Thank u ๐
mortal stag
Yea
rose lantern
Yup. Lol.
delicate musk
I hate common wars ๐
hollow hound
I love them, provides a great opportunity to use different monsters in a fun way whilst having a great laugh
clear panther
I donโt own any Common Monsters.
mortal stag
balmy nova
Lol we're taking vacations from this war ๐
wise otter
Too costly equipping runes for C wars
vale tide
Sad, we already matched rolled as always. Was fun. Hope for another match soon ๐
smoky bone
We canโt get a matchup. Is no one running wars? Looks like a weird C restriction today?
copper sphinx
@smoky bone that may just be you. Also, the restriction is Triple Common.
I'm loving this war TBh. Normally I'm 26-27 on my team but for this war I'm 1st :D
smoky bone
We did finally get a matchup- just took about 2 hours.
copper sphinx
@smoky bone enjoy. ;)
low jolt
I love common war , its where i can troll people by putting three level 4 mersnake as me defence
An giving all three of them maxed out pesti
pine sleet
That's honesly a good strategy XD.
rain parrot
@low jolt ๐คฃ
low jolt
Bro i dont even attack an i win an for the people who attack me its so funny lol
rain parrot
So that's 3x5810=17430 dmg. A lvl 70 Metalsaur has 8916 life. So, unless the enemy has life runes, it's always a one-hit KO for the whole team (looks like Rockilla and Light Spirit have the highest life at 70, which is 10150, still not enough).
twilit stream
Mine with 2 level 30 1 level 27 sufficient to take out entire team provided no life runes
rain parrot
Mine are all lvl 20, maybe not enough.
lost garnet
Who needs 130s when you have sammy
shy arrow
oh images in here ๐
peak hill
What the heck. My team literally just fought an all common war. I thought that was only exclusive to April Foolโs day?
turbid panther
My Sammy doesn't even have the turn transfer move.
fallen mason
why?
fallen mason
its okay
its not the weakest sammy
its the light one
the metal one is the worthy one though...
and the light one has the dd+50% stamina+ extra turn move
lost garnet
Light one is hardly worse than the metal on though
If you're worrying about stamina give him an energizing amulet and problem solved
hollow hound
I have both and prefer fs
lost garnet
When it comes to who is better it would be a never ending debate
hollow hound
Hahaha Iโve been having that debate for ages
lost garnet
I only have PC, so can't help too much there, but he's definitely one of the two best monsters in the game (other one being FS of course ๐ )
fallen mason
the light one is more useful against his own element
thats why I picked him on the first place
but I will try to get the metal one to r3 as well
empty quarry
Whartak is the way to go
Sunbringer can one hit kill any Sammy
Mountainsplitter has 0 CD dark attacks besides perfect petroglyph
And skullcrusher loves Faraday and company
fallen mason
I dont have Warthak( 5 cells away) cries in a corner
deep mesa
Good Morning from the East Coast.
A short back story - I was a F2P->P2P and back to F2P. I am 115k MP and took a break for a while in protest of a few SP changes that effected committed and paying players.
Last month I rejoined ML strictly for the love of the game and the many friends I made with teams I soldiered and led.
I have joined a newer team - Queen.B - who had many inactive players but a few that remind me of me in the start. I have become co-lead and we have been revamping the team to help those players who want to grow.
Through Discord , Reddit and in desparation Global Chat Queen.B has become an active team who wants to keep growing.
I would like to see if anyone may want to join us. The team is geared around playing smart verses Gem-centric and helping teammates with the many lessons learned.
Our team prioritizes Family, School and Work and ML is there to escape those 3 when needed.
Let me know if any interest.
BTW - I have a reputation of being wordy ๐
lost garnet
#recruit-members and a nice speech @deep mesa
copper sphinx
^
clear panther
@deep mesa What a lovely write up. ๐๐ป
Iโve copied it to the correct channel. ๐
mortal stag
Woo
rain parrot
๐ฎ
vale tide
First of all, I want to say congratulation to 5 Attacks, you are an amazing team, you did your best. Thank you for igniting some fire again ๐
A special thank you goes out to our very best player rep here:
Jasmin! Was fun fighting you ๐
clear panther
๐ค๐
lost garnet
dim night
dim night
reef roost
yes he had to no drama here
valid pebble
Man I want that role and power to use global emote ;__;
valid pebble
Oh ya
reef roost
but dont spam
reef roost
i give you a reason to use one ๐
mortal stag
leaden solstice
smoky bone
Anyone else having problems getting a war match?
Hm, I guess just us then. Weird when it just keeps spinning for over an hour
clear panther
We were fine yesterday.
sullen egret
Nothing apparently was changed @smoky bone
smoky bone
It finally worked, just took a really long time
sullen egret
Well it dependa on a number of factors...
I know that team is reviewing this now
Which is your team rank @smoky bone ?
smoky bone
896
smoky bone
Yea could be
vale tide
Egg wars tbh
Its like a regular war but 1 prize is like an egg
could be a good epic or a bad legend or even a good legend
copper sphinx
ionic onyx
Hey umm, my team is very active we get 110+ monsters every race. Need 3/5 attacks per war and 3000 mp very active and positive environment.
rain grove
go to #recruit-members
ionic onyx
My bad
lost garnet
Only managed 6/15 against RV, key possessions missed 4/5 times 
Laomu kept landing daze
mighty cape
Matched up against a team with over double my teams score ๐คฆ
twilit stream
Thx POF for a fun n challenging war not easy for a player like me to gain any coins but eventually i managed 12/15 it was a great experienced tho u guys are awesome๐๐ช๐๐ค
vale tide
Someone know who is responsible for matchmaking on โfive attacksโ, please get me the contact
Or warriors of ragnarok
vale tide
Hi. Have a question about matchmaking. How is it possible that my team is for the 4th time in a row matched against the same team??
clear panther
Bad luck, I see that you pressed at the same time, so your fate was sealed.
vale tide
For that reason I waited and again the same team. We lost all wars. Some were close. It'sreally annoying to lose 4 wars in row ๐
deep lake
Hello
cerulean venture
I wait 15-20 minutes after our War ends unless like this one we did Friday that had 30 players then lost 11 so I just picked up one instead of replacing up to 30 with TBG coming. I can deal better with 20 Core rather than 10 more who do nothing!
We got matched with a Team that is ranked #1298 & we are #2331. It is ridiculous! They have Level 110-120 monsters with high Runes & about half with great Relics. Our Bottom 8 Bases have no chance to defeat any of their monsters. We get one of these about once a month.
hollow hound
Rip
mortal stag
gleaming spire
mortal stag
gleaming spire
what?
vale tide
Hi again. Please help! We are again matched with the same team for the 5th!!! time in a row. I waited to start a new one. But as soon i started war, within a second we were matched again with the same one! I'm gonna lose some very good members because of that.
We are ranked #500 or so. And we have few very high lvls and some lower, or they are above lvl 80 but not so strong. But since i play in this 2 or 3 years something like this never happened. We were never matched against same team twice and now 5times!
empty quarry
How many members do you guys have? Could be that matchmaking is matching you against a team with the same amount of players
vale tide
30
empty quarry
Have you tried waiting a couple of hours before matchmaking?
vale tide
This team is 1 or 2 ranks above us. We are ranked #500+ in the team ranking. But in other rankings we are #800 or so
Yes i have and still. I don'treally know how this is possible. There are a lots of team near our rank but still within few seconds when i started we got that team again ๐
The guys from support told me that this can happen but really rare...
empty quarry
Lol that really must be annoying
vale tide
Oh yes. I play 3 years i think and it never happened.
empty quarry
Hmm so here's an idea. Dunno if it will work but worth trying I think
Have a player leave for a few and start searching for a war with 29
Just a random thought. No clue if it will work.
But I would give it a try
vale tide
I have to remove anyway 1 or 2 . But i have to wait till battle grounds ends and I'm gonna do start without searching for new ones.
I was afraid that we're gonna be matched in the battle grounds with them ๐ but luckily we aren't
reef roost
@vale tide i know i answered you on forum ๐
But you shouldent have to kick anyway its not good it have till monday tho
teal spire
Team wars suggests some monsters that we should use but they r weaker than the stronger monster of that element rarity or book
And at my main account I lost 1 war cos my unspderwirld monster that It suggested me to fight with was eggknock and not ophiuchus though OPhiuchus was still used to protect the war coins. This needs to be fixed
Underworld*
reef roost
I have no idea how the computer selects the monsters but i dont need to have that changed because i can change it would be a different story if I couldent
fallen mason
that is not a valid reason not to change that...
reef roost
I said I dont need that to be cahnged as in my personal opinion and there are for me personal far bigger issues than this
teal spire
Ok I get it now my succuba is rank 1
But stillโฆ
But for the eggknock one even though my eggknock is ranked up, it wasnโt ranked up at the time I lost that fight so that defeat's still a problem cos my eggknock wasnโt even ranked up at the time even though it is now
And my main account was inactive at the succuba incident one done to touchscreen problems so I couldnโt change it but for the succuba comment I will still delete it
I will still keep the eggknock defeat one tho cos my eggknock wasnโt ranked up at the time so itโs still confusing
reef roost
You can change the monsters so again dont see the problem
@teal spire
Before fight you can change the team not talking about defense which you also can change hope you do that for your team (look at your defense team in prep day i mean) but when you attack you dont have to use the by AI chosen team you can change them ad long as they fit the requirements
frosty monolith
Yep
fallen mason
I mean since you can change it, it wouldnt be a problem if they put a better placing system there
teal spire
I accidentally clicked fight without realising that eggknock was used instead of ophiuchus
And eggknock wasnโt ranked up at the time if u forgot
Which itโs very confusing now
warped dirge
Guys what's wrong with the 1d58h cool down issue
And it's not changing since yesterday
copper sphinx
it takes 2 days to change afaik
steel sinew
I think it disappears after the usual Cooldown time. If it was just yesterday thereโs still some Cooldown left
shy arrow
Yes we did confirm its a visual glitch - we brough someone on with 10 hr cooldown and it said 1d 58hr but after 10 hours it was gon
just sucks if you dont know how long its supposed to be
luckily we knew as it was one of our accounts
reef roost
@warped dirge its been reported and under investigation
hollow hound
Anyone know current war restrictions?
copper sphinx
Winged Book, Metal, L
hollow hound
Thanks โค๏ธ
copper sphinx
uwu โค
vale tide
Please, can you tell me if the game warns that the island has no coin, players must be notified because I see more and more players who attacked bases with 0 coin
copper sphinx
it does have a popup warning like twice
when you click "scout" it warms you about 2-0 coins remaining, and when you click "fight" it warns you again
so pople attacking bases with 0 war coins are just leeching
hollow hound
Or blind
copper sphinx
or too lazy to read.
reef roost
@vale tide did you try yourself not to attack but see what you get maybe pop-up is failling?
lost garnet
Failing or not, people shouldn't fight those bases!
vale tide
Ty, I am on vacation atm, I take a break so I can not to test ๐ tyvm for info ๐
reef roost
i will try myself if i dont forget and have a great vacation ๐
steel sinew
Yup I can confirm. It 100% has a warning when there is less than 3 coins in a base. Iโve seen it enough times myself ๐
lost abyss
Is anyone having trouble with matchmaking?
rain parrot
No
runic shale
ever better the pairing of wars. an absolute shame it.
๐ก ๐ก ๐ก
our team with 2.4M power against the left with 8.2M. very fair and very good the matchmaker
ripe cradle
Speaking to a player on global and they are adamant that Timmy, will be available in the team shop again but only for a short amount of time does anyone know if they are correct?
mortal stag
Noo
lost garnet
No
rain parrot
@runic shale our team has around 2.1k MP and our opponent barely has 700k. No need to say that we're destroying them.
runic shale
Left hand of god has 8.2M MP
rain parrot
I meant it's not fair. In your case it's not fair to you and in our case it's not fair to our enemy.
rain parrot
How could something like that happen?
runic shale
๐ค ๐ค ๐ค ๐ค, sorry for this.
reef roost
whatdo you mean by that @runic shale
runic shale
We have to invest money in the game to win๐
We looked for war and at the time found them, it did not take 2 seconds. I do not understand how we got a team that has almost 4x more MP than us ๐
rain parrot
Magic ๐คฆ
balmy flame
The match are rough! Once it's taken a hour to match make
fallen mason
let me rephrase your sentence: the matchmaking system is still broken ever since their begging and there have been no major fixes to that
lost garnet
Wars were released in August 2015 for testers and in September 2015 though
But besides the year, you're right 
regal timber
Right now weโre in a war against a team that has triple our MP, and their monsters are mostly ranked 115-130 and are runed up with xโs. Current score is 263-5.
Most of my team pulled a brave, brave sir robin and ran away. Canโt blame them really.
fallen mason
I will change the year so I do not look like an ignorant fool lol
cerulean venture
Oh dear! @regal timber that is ridiculous!
iron saffron
Hi
lost garnet
Wrong channel
fallen mason
other team might have only 29 players
astral kernel
We just got matched with a team of 15 players and we are 30 eligible players
lost garnet
clear palm
we are 30 teammates and nobody has a block. But we matched with a team with 24 teammates ๐๐๐
rain parrot
So then ... destroy them ๐
regal timber
Yes we have 27 and we matched with a team of 15. Took over 4 hours
reef roost
It has to do with changes there is going to be official news about it today ๐
rain parrot
Hmmm, interesting. It's like combining PVP and Battlegrounds (kinda) with the Team Wars system.
gentle bay
Our team war has put all players except 2 on each team in observer mode .any one else having this issue ??
worn widget
New team wars, sounds exciting ๐
steel sinew
Thereโs an issue with wars thatโll be fixed tomorrow
amber cave
wait, so for the new update we will get war coins and war medals?
so the original shop will be there, with a new medal shop right? also 1 last question, will the legues give rewards, like pvp after every season?
gritty merlin
We are a team of 24 with 23 eligible for war. Matched with a team of 13 players.
hollow hound
Think thatโs being fixed today
reef roost
@amber cave please ask your question with #question in #team-wars-leagues-feedback
reef roost
@deep flint can you place this in feedback please
dull remnant
Iโve been trying to start a war for my team for almost 2 hours. We have 27 eligible. Anyone else having problems?
hollow escarp
What's happening with wars? We have 30 players and we've been matched with a team of 24....
We have rage wars on too .....
dull remnant
I know. Stinks. My team is still in matchmaking
dull remnant
So much for participating in rage wars. Canโt even get one started
vale tide
They call it rage wars since ppl rage
somber flower
We have 30 and only matched with a team of 14...
vale tide
An option needs to be added to say the minimum number you want to war with. So you can choose quicker but less or maximum and longer. Otherwise teams will get very frustrated.
lilac parrot
Good suggestion ibobs
reef roost
go to #team-wars-leagues-feedback for updates ๐
solid kettle
I want to criticize the torture with the elements during rage wars
Last rage wars triple epic
Now rage wars with double thunder 2 days in a row.
Please donโt tell me this is random.
plus rage Wars & battlegrounds is a very horrible combination
From player point of view VERY exhausting.
rain parrot
Strange, we also have a double Thunder war (with Light).
But the one before that was Sea, Evil Legions and Light.
rain parrot
๐
mortal stag
regal timber
Anyone having trouble opening wars? I canโt get in, I keep getting an error message sequence โsaving team...an error occurred...check your network connectionโ yet itโs working fine everywhere else, only wars.
rain parrot
Wars and Battlegrounds are having problems
regal timber
Yeah it looks like itโs being worked on. The error sequence changed
regal timber
Fixed now for me. ๐
hollow escarp
Broken still for me
rain parrot
So I destroyed my enemy in a war, but at the end somehow the game showed no connection (even though it's perfect). And I lost the battle ๐ก
Most of the time the game offers to save the result again, but not this time.
smoky bone
Last war we only had 17/30 able to participate. Now we are matched with a team that is top 400 and weโre below 4000. We literally canโt beat one of their players
lilac parrot
Been trying for a war match for 3.5 hours so far. We have 20 eligible players. Matching is not getting better........
lilac parrot
Still no match. It has been over 5.5 hours of trying..............
lilac parrot
@obtuse trellisra - Thanks I had read that update. My issue is that the matching is not working. It is not reasonable to have to wait over 6 hours and not have a war match. It also isnโt reasonable that our previous war match was against a team with 110k MP when our team has 1.3M MP. My point is that the โimprovementsโ arenโt making it any better than it previously was.
balmy nova
Maybe you should try recruiting some more til 25 Stone Fighter
hollow hound
Iโd happily beat a team much lower than me in a rage war
woeful ravine
You know what Luke it is very demoralising for smaller teams if they canโt get a blow in in the wars. Our team is not looking to battle teams who have no hope against. We want to be fair and have fun
Unfortunately SP seem to have made wars much worse than they ever were, and that was not always good ........
lusty socket
But winning and getting a lot of coins is fun and boosts your ego
woeful ravine
Bellatrix we normally play with 25. But we have lost long term players who have left the game to frustrated with all the negative changes. We are having great difficulty recruiting. We have some good and some lower players who have been with us a long time. We actively try to grow all of our team but particularly the lower players
full heron
I have. Confusion
woeful ravine
Winning whatever the cost is not the way we play
full heron
Is there some wierd rule about monster placement in team war lineups?
Aside from element restruction
Restrictions*
I'm trying to add my higher level mad lads but the game says no emphatically
I got screenshots if that helps
woeful ravine
I donโt understand Oskar
full heron
So I'm trying to set up my defense team for team wars
But I have magic monsters
Did the image send
Goodness gracious
I've got a level 45 nebotus and a level 40 faymelina
But it won't let me plug em in to my defense team
woeful ravine
Anyway the game has become very frustrating...
Our last war ended 8hours 30odd minutes ago and still canโt get a match for next war
full heron
Perhaps my question was confusing but I feel as though disregarding it completely is not. Conclusive
Has that happened to you? I'm not sure why it's limiting my team selection
hollow hound
@woeful ravine that is the nature of the game Iโm afraid. I got destroyed by RV I know the feeling
And Iโd beat a team 450 v 0 with no guilt whatsoever if the opportunity was provided
Fighting against stronger bases makes you stronger.
woeful ravine
Hmmmmmm
Oskar Iโm sorry I canโt help you. Do they require monsters at a certain level. I donโt know what is required for next war because we have been waiting since 8 am to match and it is now 4.30 pm
lilac parrot
10 hours and we finally got a war match
balmy nova
@full heron maybe you should post it in #bugs-reporting along with your SS
Epic JT, totally understand you . . . My team is conformed by long term players as well and totally get the part where you say is difficult to recruit, been there many times myself, also I share your idea of a fair war, not looking to beat lower teams all the time, but with our same lvl as possible. That'll improve with the Leagues system ๐
sand nexus
We keep matchin 440 coin wins b2b in 90seconds max. Rage war 880. A third or a quater our MP. Its boring for us and unfair for them
hollow hound
I hope you match top 10 teams back to back. Then you wonโt care ๐
sand nexus
Yea ellie is nice they do that.. we do it occasionally
pulsar wyvern
Any timeline on fixing the matchmaking? We keep losing people due to the hopelessness of the matchups against teams with 8 to 10 times our monster power. The frustration is further enhanced by the rage event with 10 attacks.
steel sinew
Matchmaking will change when the new league system comes out, theyโve already said that ๐
smoky bone
We finished a war last night, any reason we didnโt get war medals (we won)?
steel sinew
Wars started before the update didn't give medals, because you weren't in a league. Finishing a war places you in a league, and as such grants you medals from now on
smoky bone
Thanks, since we saw the new icons in the war, we thought medals would be awarded. Just wanted to be sure
vale tide
We finished a war and got the trophies...
deep mesa
Anyone having issues starting a new Team War?
I have tried 20 times with no luck
clear palm
@deep mesa
do you started and it fails or do you started, stopped and started again?
I started and let it ran... it takes some time but than er matched... with a team 2 leagues higher than we are ๐
reef roost
deep mesa
I start and wait 15-20 mins then cancel and repeat
We got matched up a couple of hours ago. I thought the new Team War matching algorithm may take longer and typically we get a matchup within 30 mins.
sullen egret
hi guys!
@deep mesa despite this is a classical behaviour....
it's usual better that you don't cancel..
the thing is that the MM has a complex chain process... and if you restart, you restart over this process again
obviously, you're free to do whatever you want
reef roost
@deep mesa I never cancel we sometimes wait before restarting after we lost a war for a bit because we dont want the same opponent but when I or my co's start we just let it role sometimes it takes a very long time I just close the game and when I come back we have a match 24h is long enough to prepare
deep mesa
Thanks @reef roost, @sullen egret and @clear palm
I need to work on my patience ๐
cerulean venture
I restart after 20 minutes as well. It seems if I have to do that a couple of times, we get matched faster. I'll try not to be too impatient then. The new Matchmaking the first time matched us with a Team ranked the exact same "number" as us but their War Log was hidden so not sure how that stacked up. We won 217-198 so it was close. This time the Team is ranked #1629 & we are ranked #1741. They have lost 6/10 & are running about 5-10 inactives in each War. Not sure how this will stack up! I don't understand the 151 trophies we won that pushed us up 150 Ranks though! I honestly don't think we should be that high. Our MP total puts us #34xx....
mortal gate
Isn't that more fair? i mean, if you have less MP but you are better performing on Team Wars, you deserver a better rank.
Btw probably some other Teams will end their wars and will push you down on ranks, right now rankings are really crowded and the win-lose trophies amount is big, needs time to create bigger trophies differences.
reef roost
@cerulean venture as yehudi has explained it counter productive to restart a war better to let it run ๐
hidden herald
This new league system needs to be fixed. So far the math doesnโt add up at all. We were given to 100 extra points like every other team and should have won 45 trophies as stated in our war, but were only given 38. Since this started Iโve added up each amount of trophies we have been given and we should have a total of 499, thatโs even including getting the 38 for this war. Please explain how the math works, because from where Iโm sitting the math is way out. This is just not good enough, introduce a new system and canโt even get the math right. Not impressed one bit, thereโs no transparency at all.
solid kettle
@hidden herald itโs not giving 100 extra .
You can now earn up to 150 if it still displayed to you 45 you donโt automatically get 145
The points you get are based on the ranks of the teams that match
From analyzing war logs ( so sad so many are closed) and the info ingame this is was I figured out
If you match in your league the system assumes you have a โhard warโ
For example rank 1 will match rank 2 or 3
Youโll get 150 for a win -150 for a loose
If you match below your own league letโs say rank 1 matches rank 20 youโll get less points for a win letโs say 130
Everything is still beta i believe the team still works on improving the system
frosty monolith
I donโt understand a single thing ๐
solid kettle
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hidden herald
I understand all that, thanks Vali, but either way if we got 145 or 138 like we got, the math is still wrong. Does not make sense at all and SP are not giving out any info on how they are awarding any trophies from start to finish. None of us know what base they gave us to start with. Absolutely no transparency, I understand we need to get hard wars to get better trophies, but the way it is now we are still getting weak wars. The team we have got is very weak, but ranked quite high, itโs ridiculous and totally unfair to this team. As far as Iโm concerned this is a major screw up and yes itโs a beta yet again and all beta are a mess up.
reef roost
@hidden herald there is a feedback channel ๐
hidden herald
Thank you, @reef roost I did ask where to post this and was told to post in here. Iโm still pretty new at this so not sure what Iโm doing ๐๐. Where is this feedback channel please
I donโt see it anywhere, does it have a different name
hidden herald
Ok thank you so much for your help @reef roost
reef roost
Np
crude imp
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sand nexus
Our war said we will be awarded 50, we got 151 after. It wasnโt a hard or, or a war with a team in higher league ๐คท๐ผโโ๏ธ
solid kettle
What ranks @sand nexus ?
smoky bone
If we havenโt received our rewards from a war (affecting the entire team), is contacting sp via in game support the best way to get it fixed?
final hazel
I didnt get my war coins for the war finishing
I feel robbed 280 war coin win and 75 team coin thing I didnt get
Idk
I will wait for a mod to see
lost garnet
I didn't get them either
cerulean venture
Did you reboot and/or clear your cache? Sometimes that helps!
smoky bone
Iโm on an iPhone, Iโve hard closed the app a couple times. War finished about 12 hours ago.
balmy nova
Hi all . . . Seems like some rewards (feeding challenge and war coins) didn't get delivered as some players have reported it. Right now it's not possible to do anything because it's not office time but it'll be sorted out asap
austere marten
Ummm, so anyone know if the whole team shop cells is permanent? I really hope it's not..... I really enjoyed being able to straight up buy the eggs and not waste so many coins buying the cells.
Nor do I think it's right putting so much work into buying the cells and creating the egg, making a two day hatch, four.
steel sinew
Yup Sakura is dead right. Itโs permanent, and the cells cost the same as the egg did
Crafting and hatching is something youโll need to do once, maybe two/three times if youโre unlucky. Ranking up you need to do 5 times, Iโd rather that was quicker ๐
hollow escarp
Anyone has problems loading the war?
reef roost
no we are in attack no problems
balmy nova
Not really . . . Running smoothly
hollow escarp
I have a teammate that for the last 2 wars hasn't been able to access wars and game chat.
And with the latest update....
No word yet from SP at the ticket she sent
balmy nova
Have she tried to clear cache @hollow escarp? Sometimes it works
hollow escarp
It didn't work... Now we're just waiting for ticket to be answered
Next thought it's that it could be the device....?
Idk
Everything else works in game
balmy nova
Then go to #bugs-reporting and upload SS there saying what the problem is, it'll be looked on tomorrow by a dev
hollow escarp
Ok thanks. Just wanted to ask here if it happened to anyone else too ...
balmy nova
She does have the latest version right?
hollow escarp
Yes
balmy nova
That's weird tho
hollow escarp
We tried uninstalling too
balmy nova
Yes, better report it there ๐
reef roost
@hollow escarp he is banned
reef roost
Do you have other chat like discord or messenger?
hollow escarp
I have messenger too
reef roost
Do you use that for game?
hollow escarp
Yes,we have a chat for our teammates
Just a few of us have discord,we use mostly messenger
reef roost
Ok ask if he can do pvp
hollow escarp
I'll ask
reef roost
And you ask me why I don't know
hollow escarp
They're at work and won't have access to the iPad until later๐
hollow escarp
They can do pvp @reef roost
hollow escarp
She did... Said she got a notification that a reply was sent but nothing shows.... I have no idea what's happening. I'm very confused
reef roost
is she on discord?
or on forum she can send me her ID and IGN on either I can try to find out
thorny sleet
@reef roost to buy this War Vip Monster Chest cost 2.5k war coins + 2k war medals.. what does that mean so if you have war coins you can use that or you can use war medals?
hollow escarp
You have to buy it with war coins and war madals, both. Together.
reef roost
Thats what + means ๐
fallen mason
probably until your team gets sorted in the correct league
rain parrot
I don't think that chests is worth it (for now at least). What if you get Osur the Lame?
I'll buy the good old monsters at first.
reef roost
I put him on defense
fallen mason
my team just got promoted in the middle of the war
we would have won 50 medals earlier
now it is 70
solid kettle
Someone matched after restriction change ?
Friends team rolling for 1 h nothing ๐
scenic wedge
Ours match making took several hours and ended up with 29 war even though we have 30 in our team. At one point we thought we may escape the Epics restriction since it didnโt seem to find any team
reef roost
yesterday was quick the day before that was I think 3 hours or more could be less teams war because of TG long weekend?
lilac parrot
Does any other lead/co-lead not have the start war button available? We can start a war.
steel sinew
I started one earlier today
vale tide
Marianne please u can help us? We can`t start the war..:(
balmy nova
I dm you Ramonika
bleak fern
Weโve been trying to match for more than 12 hours. Anyone else having that problem?
balmy nova
Did you restart?
bleak fern
Yeah.
And weโve cancelled matchmaking and had different coleads try
balmy nova
Mmm . . . It's recommended not to keep cancelling because as the dev said previously, MM is a complex chain . . . So, better let it roll because everytime you cancel, the process will start again
regal timber
I have a question. One of our players left the team yesterday because they were busy for the holiday. They were on the war team, but when they came back they were in 24 hour cool down. Is that the normal process? I thought if you left and came back within a reasonable period of time then you would be able to continue am I wrong?
reef roost
He left during war and came back during same war?
regal timber
Yes