I'll post it somewhere
#📝・suggestion-chat
worldly plume
wind quiver
the thing is you can't use the statistics of the people who are here, because these aren't most players
nova sandal
and yet the rpg removal suggestion has move upvotes than downvotes
wind quiver
it has the same amount
nova sandal
lol
worldly plume
Shoe, I thought you wanted it to be removed, why are you using it to say I'm wrong?
And how?
nova sandal
I'm not on the rpg bandwagon
wind quiver
wait, it has 6 downvotes and 5 upvots
wind quiver
the only way to effectively run a poll of the players would be to have a poll on the actual game page, because most players don't join the discord
nova sandal
that would be unnecessary unless this idea becomes big talk
worldly plume
Not only would we get an idea of what players think, we could use that information to create new content that they might like.
Perhaps we could have different polls for different suggestions
nova sandal
but comparing an update to the original to mostly new players would be inaccurate
because barely any of those 3 million visits per month stay
and yet those "3 million visits"
could be just the same people playing it everyday with little settlers
wind quiver
according to the stats, about 50 percent of them stay
which is pretty average for a website
nova sandal
lmao 50%
wind quiver
the stats for "stay" is they are on the website for more than 10 minutes at a time
nova sandal
visits meaning everytime a page is loaded?
or players?
cause if it's visits
then this game will probably have around like 50,000 people who play it constantly
cosmic wolf
done 3d model of the rpegg
nova sandal
that's worse than klanoa on wii
wind quiver
and you're saying that every one of the 20k members of the shell league discord play in competitive games, and they aren't just there to watch the games?
wind quiver
how many players have actually played in a shell league sponsored game?
quiet harnessBOT
94 players
wind quiver
lol
nova sandal
lol
wind quiver
seems about accurate
nova sandal
I don't know
it's still 20,000 members that see games
or at least share interest in it
so that's basically almost half of sl members
wind quiver
how many views do shell league games get?
quiet harnessBOT
45 views
wind quiver
lol shush wizbot
according to twitch statistics, the shell league games stream to an average of 40 viewers, with 28k views total across all streams
there are your real shell league game broadcast stats
wind quiver
i have the official stats right here
nova sandal
ok
wind quiver
average viewers, 40, total hours watched 4,720, total followers 1,065, total views, 28,855
one stream did make it to 70 average viewers, Saturday July 20th
according to twitch stats, that makes it 9th when it comes to shell streams
nova sandal
again in the past 12 days
wind quiver
that is peak, not average
nova sandal
ok
wind quiver
the maximum peak viewers it has ever had is 517
cosmic wolf
done
wind quiver
that was Monday February 4th
nova sandal
ok
wind quiver
there just isn't enough evidence here to show that the league is composed of 50% of the fanbase of the game, or even 50% of the views
oh wait, hold on, the 517 views was for the entire shell shockers game, not the shell league
karmic matrix
bruh stop spamming that
nova sandal
there's no evidence that it's not connected to half of the game
wind quiver
i see it you don't need to keep posting that
i accidentllly hit the back button on my mouse when looking through the stats
cosmic wolf
cool right
wind quiver
i was looking at the entire category, not just the league
nova sandal
ok
wind quiver
peak viewers the shell league has has is 186
nova sandal
alright
nova sandal
?
wind quiver
just trying to find the evidence that the shell league comprises a majority of the player base
gentle oar
There is nothing that shows that 386 is on behalf of most players of the game and most people want those changes
wind quiver
and it seems that it has already been brought up with the league officials, and they don't see a problem with it's involvement in the competitive games
at least according to what i have seen here
nova sandal
they didn't see a FR problem back then
but it was op
everywhere FR dominated
the devs changed it later
which fixed it
because of requests
wind quiver
the free ranger was changed due to the addition of a different sniper, not at the behest of the shell league players
nova sandal
no, the free ranger was changed months before the different sniper
either that
or everything else was buffed
by request
wind quiver
the only change that happened at that time was the hitbox changing, which most people didn't like initially
wind quiver
is this a serious question?
wind quiver
and?
nova sandal
why balance it when the playerbase is fine with it besides the competitive players
school kiddos are competitive too
against their friends
I believe
wind quiver
being competitive with friends isn't the same as being in a competitive league and you know that
wind quiver
its not similar in the slightest
wind quiver
lol alright sure
at the very core of games, yes, one does play to be better than other players
nova sandal
well if I was in school pissing around playing ss against friends
I would use the most op weapons
wind quiver
so you're saying that the league players have the same skill level as random children playing a game in school with their friends?
is this an analogy?
nova sandal
You are just taking the nouns and comparing them
take the verbs
the predicates
the ACTIONS
they are essentially doing the same thing
wind quiver
players in the league are going to have a different idea of what is an OP gun than someone who isn't in the competitive scene
nova sandal
which is why there is a lot of members inside the sl discord
I believe that quite a bit of players are just competitive kiddos looking for the best strats
or to watch games to get an idea
wind quiver
does every player in the league use the RPG?
nova sandal
that's why there are different people speaking inside sl each and every day
Do games allow everyone to use the rpg?
wind quiver
do they?
nova sandal
no p e
wind quiver
there you go
nova sandal
but when people express the most overpowered gun
they say the rpg
heck, even the newsletter said that the rpg can beat ANY gun inside a 1v1
proud flax
Rpg isnt annoying unless its good player lol
wind quiver
the RPG can most definately not defeat other guns in a 1v1 if the players have the same skill level
nova sandal
we aren't talking about pubs
uh yeah it can...
1v1, castle, courtyard
it one shots every gun
wind quiver
either sniper is going to destroy the RPG if the players have the same skill level
nova sandal
how
proud flax
And if you miss shot ur in doodoo most time
wind quiver
if both players shoot at the same time, the RPG is going to die first
proud flax
Sniper bullets way faster than rocket ones though
proud flax
If you aim well sniper ones are as deadly
wind quiver
player collision is changing soon
nova sandal
ok
proud flax
^
wind quiver
just because someone requested it doesn't mean that it wasn't something that they were already working on
given enough requests, every change to the game could be predicted in some way
nova sandal
but according to your logic, they could do ANYTHING and not care about the sl members because the game is otherwise popular
wind quiver
what?
wind quiver
i don't understand that leap of logic there
nova sandal
read the past messages lol
wind quiver
explain what messages lead you to that conclusion
nova sandal
Mostly you saying that requests won't change the game because "most casual players don't care"
wind quiver
i never said that
nova sandal
and that the numbers are too big to make an impact
wind quiver
i also never said that
nova sandal
look at the messages
wind quiver
lol you're reading into things that arent' there
requests to come into consideration when it comes to future updates
not every request can be implimented, and just because someone requests something means that it is going to be added, or that because a lot of people agree with a request means that it will be added either
the requests is a vehicle for new ideas and to get a good idea of what some players may think about changes or the state of the game, they are by no means a final definitive statement of what the players want
you are making leaps of logic that make no sense, and are not what i intended in the slightest
nova sandal
so this basically means that sl won't really have an impact
and yet the devs listen to them
wind quiver
none of that says what you said
nova sandal
oops lol wrong screenshot
wind quiver
that doesn't mean that in the slightest
the game should be balanced for public games first, and competitive play second, i never said that the league should not be attended to
nova sandal
well that's bad game design
for an fps
ss right now doesn't stick to people
again
3 million visits
People, Ip addresses, or visits?
if it's visits, then that's a VERY small sticking number
wind quiver
no it isn't bad design, especially a free browser game, the thing that most people will start with is public matches, and that is what should be most attended to
nova sandal
isn't smash ultimate for competitive players second?
wind quiver
all smash games focus on casual play
nova sandal
that couldn't be more wrong
there's a reason wii u and ultimate are faster than brawl
because NOBODY liked brawl's "kiddy casual physics"
wind quiver
the problem there is that they added too many anti competitive features
nova sandal
and items, and stage hazards can be turned off
and they usually are
even by casuals
wind quiver
and?
they can be, but by default they are on
the game is built for casual gameplay, and competitve second
nova sandal
if two basic features are for casual play, but they can be turned off, which they usually always are, they how is it AIMED for casuals?
plus the more competitive smash ultimate is going to outsell the casual brawl
wind quiver
if it was focused at competitive gameplay, then they would have them off by defualt, how the players choose to play the game isn't representative of how the designers made it
nova sandal
that's why you customize the matches
which are a big part of ultimate
plus if you haven't heard, fanservice is everywhere there
FANservice
wind quiver
i don't have time to keep this up
some people just don't understand, and that is ok with me
nova sandal
can you understand?
battle mode in mariokart 8 deluxe removed the og 8's casual-oriented battle mode
because the competitive players hated it
mario odyssey was more hard core than 3d world was
because people wanted it
wind quiver
mario odyssey had a handholding mode where you can't die
nova sandal
for the bots
wind quiver
and there are no repercussions to dying other than losing 10 coins
wind quiver
there are no lives in that game
nova sandal
again, lives were basically useless and nobody wanted them
karmic matrix
how long has it been
nova sandal
69 years
karmic matrix
how long are you 2 gonna continue?
wind quiver
again, i don't have time to argue with someone who doesn't understand
nova sandal
bruh do you not understand
karmic matrix
and I guess I'm just gonna watch and read this 
nova sandal
ok
wind quiver
please don't ping me
nova sandal
get some popcorn @karmic matrix
karmic matrix
@nova sandal
wind quiver
again, don't ping me
nova sandal
moon prob think every game is made to be casual
with that probably mobile gaming will take over
angry birds will kill consoles
ivory python
ss is a free browser game where you shoot frickin eggs, of course it's aimed at casual play first
atomic kettle
no u
ivory python
I am aimed at casual play too, yes 😄
nova sandal
yet the devs have listened to the competitive scene quite a bit
brisk apex
and I rlly like that they have done that
wind quiver
and they should listen to the competitive players, they are part of the player base
karmic matrix
@karmic matrix that was very specific
you even wrote in which game and what it should do
oh yea thx
😉
do you want to play with me?
link is in #sidearms
karmic matrix
@brisk apex Watch how you talk, you're representing the league. Do not stick your foot in your mouth. @nova sandal You aren't SL staff but you are acting very ignorant right now, think before you speak.
brisk apex
My bad
nova sandal
bruh
aren't you admin on a different server
@karmic matrix plus this conversation ended like 2 hours ago. So you like reviving dead debates?
worldly plume
It's alive!
nova sandal
He usually does that, so I actually kinda expected that message tbh
nova sandal
He has a history of trying to revive dumb arguments
karmic matrix
I don't believe anyone here asked.
karmic matrix
If you can show where I clearly asked I'll shut up for the week.
solemn laurel
@karmic matrix dms
nova sandal
If you want proof, look at your message again
not only is it rude, but you are calling me ignorant which is just unnecessary
have you ever heard a debate
because you fsr think this is some serious stuff
like, say, a fight
nova sandal
A message like that only encourages a fight
so why send it
and why act like it was the future of ss
wait, what was that word that describes people who encourage conflict?
oh yeah instigator
karmic matrix
Look Im trying to avoid responding, can you stop.
nova sandal
Then stop encouraging arguments. It's as simple as that.
ivory python
this is why I never did join SL...
nova sandal
SL never has this stuff lol
ivory python
whenever there's SL people, there is toxicity
solemn laurel
Ever heard of blocking people?
ivory python
no, what's that?
nova sandal
it's where it blocks all messages from a user, but you can still read their message by clicking on the blocking message
if that makes sense
solemn laurel
He obviously knows that
calm pasture
😂
cosmic wolf
is there going to be anymore weapon added to shellshockers
ivory python
yes, flying sharks with lasers
calm pasture
wind quiver
and they will hold the world ransom for... one million dollars! hahaha
nova sandal
I believe any new gun added will probably kill the game for competitive folks
unless it's a pump shotgun
cosmic wolf
how about a guide missile launcher
ivory python
yes because the only way to create a guided missile is for it to be 100% guaranteed hit and always a one shot kill
cosmic wolf
you can control it for 7 second and it does 75 damage
wind quiver
how would you control it? with the mouse? that would leave you standing still for 7 seconds, more than enough time for someone to find you and take you out before you can do anything
cosmic wolf
yes
wind quiver
the maps are too small and the game is too fast paced for that, any guided weapons added would have to be automatic
FaF weapons are the only kind that would work
karmic matrix
Bruh a rocket launcher you control is literally gonna be more OP than the RPEGG
So 
wind quiver
it would leave you too open, and you would die super easy using a self controlled weapon like that
ivory python
it would definitely need to be automatic, I agree
wind quiver
standing still for any extended amount of time, will get you killed very fast, especially if people see a guided rocket coming from that spot, they'll know you're standing still and go shoot you
the only way something like that could be viable would be in a teams mode where you have other players guarding you and you are off in a corner, and even then, you're standing still, a well placed grenade will take you out
ivory python
7 seconds of guidance is unnecessary though, even on a large map like Ruins it only takes like 3 seconds for an RPegg to cross the whole map
if not 2 seconds
cosmic wolf
how about 5 sec to control
nova sandal
Moon, there is a controlled rpg in Unreal, coincidentally. You right click, then it fires and you control it. But the camera goes to the rpg bullet's perspective and you control it with the mouse.
Plus ss's's pace is super slow
And you are also vulnerable in that game
and it's faster paced
but it works
I in fact always never die while using it
nova sandal
#393 of course wizbot downvotes it...
wind quiver
wizbot is the first upvote and downvote on everything, to establish the reactions in the post to begin with
karmic matrix
r/whoooosh
wind quiver
lol considering goomba's history of understanding things, it was kinda hard to tell if it was a joke or not
karmic matrix
lmfao
cyan burrow
LOL
karmic matrix
nahhhhhhhh
wind quiver
there is a self promo channel, its called #🎥・streams-videos
i wasn't, that is a self promo channel
nova sandal
bruh why
wind quiver
it was a joke
nova sandal
I thought you didn't make jokes lol
wind quiver
i make jokes all the time, they aren't good jokes, but they are jokes
karmic matrix
mmk
karmic matrix
Not a bad idea actually. Set skins combos you can customize. I'd vouch for that.
cyan burrow
@wind quiver (sorry ping) but swearing is aloud now? damn this is what happens when u never use da server
calm pasture
no swearing @nova sandal
wind quiver
swearing is not allowed, and i also don't reply to pings in the middle of the night either
wind quiver
don't make random comments in #💡・suggestions
solemn laurel
It doesn’t say in the rules that swearing isn’t allowed
calm pasture
@nova sandal you know there is a thing called Time Zones.
cyan burrow
k
worldly plume
As have I, but I no longer do
cyan burrow
😉
calm pasture
@karmic matrix discussion about suggestions is done here, not in #💡・suggestions
fallow lintel
yes
nova sandal
bruh
karmic matrix
Hi
nova sandal
hi
severe flicker
hi
does anybody here think that in shell shockers
we should get a orange so our egg could look like an pumpkin?
calm pasture
nice idea for Halloween theme 👍
severe flicker
yea'
calm pasture
put it in #💡・suggestions
calm pasture
see pinned message in #💡・suggestions
severe flicker
thx
calm pasture
:)
severe flicker
in which one
calm pasture
calm pasture
mention what?
severe flicker
my suggestion
calm pasture
you have to type there in the correct format
severe flicker
ok
calm pasture
I don't know what you want to mention
severe flicker
ok
calm pasture
if you thinking about mentioning a wizard, then NO
severe flicker
thats not what i ment
worldly plume
Like the number of the suggestion?
karmic matrix
That moment you make 1 typo in your suggestion
calm pasture
#406 , really?
karmic matrix
LOL #406
karmic matrix
"shellshocks" lmao
wind quiver
lol that's nothing, i get comments about "she'll shockers" in my videos all the time
calm pasture
😂
worldly plume
Shock Shellers
elder thistle
egg crackers
karmic matrix
lmao y
cyan burrow
@still viper why not lmfao
still viper
Cause then you wouldnt have to get a role to see them
cyan burrow
BRUH
still viper
Plus its not an announcement
quiet harnessBOT
Are you looking or amazing Blue Wizard Digital items, killers, hats, game codes, real world items and more? Check out our #🎁・giveaway channel for any current giveaways running!
still viper
Then why be active here? Isnt the point of the giveaway to promote activeness?
quiet harnessBOT
Are you looking or amazing Blue Wizard Digital items, killers, hats, game codes, real world items and more? Check out our #🎁・giveaway channel for any current giveaways running!
still viper
Whats the point of it then?
cyan burrow
BRUH
still viper
What does BWD gain from them?
cyan burrow
LOL
nova sandal
before you peoples kill me, this is why I made #413
bwd announcements
dammit it was bluewizsupp
nah it's the same
DESTROY WIZARDSUPP
hold on
the only person who can do that
is wizardsupport
: O
fierce iron
?
gritty spindle
lay off the magic dust
worldly plume
You've snorted too much.
gritty spindle
karmic matrix
lol
nova sandal
well it is
elder thistle
LOL
nova sandal
#422 best suggestion by far
elder thistle
yeah
cyan burrow
@worldly plume sorry for da ping but can you warn @elder thistle for making super unnecessary suggestions?
and maybe even @nova sandal
its annoying
im not gonna call you a hypocrite, but these obnoxious suggestions have no need to be encouraged @worldly plume
elder thistle
how did u access that list???????
worldly plume
Only Apprentices and above can do that!
cyan burrow
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO
elder thistle
HOW
cyan burrow
LOL
elder thistle
HOW
elder thistle
really?
worldly plume
No, no I did not
cyan burrow
lmfao
can there be a nickname reset request
because i really disapprove of his name
elder thistle
i think that is grounds for a ban....
cyan burrow
k
elder thistle
really, how did u do it?
karmic matrix
no u
elder thistle
yeah
karmic matrix
no u too
elder thistle
me three
worldly plume
That's all I want to know
elder thistle
F IN THIS GODDAMN CHAT
still viper
The sorcerer apprentice is a VGW in training
cyan burrow
you're upvoting silly suggestions
karmic matrix
when you make a suggestion and someone downvotes and upvotes it
cyan burrow
elder thistle
lol
cyan burrow
lmfao i want the people warned for abusing suggestions but i like the set slowmode
Zyrtec dont change your reaction and ask for an explanation
smh
karmic matrix
the only reason people are downvoting your suggestion is the last part
karmic matrix
i cri
ivory python
aren't all apprentices in training? 🙂
worldly plume
View reactions
cyan burrow
true
but like
think of it as a minimod in training
lol
LMFAO
you're joking, right?
worldly plume
How did you view the reactions???
worldly plume
Who gave you these perms?
karmic matrix
lies
worldly plume
Why?
cyan burrow
everytime i look at a suggestion i look at who reacted on it
i see you agree with heyguys suggestion
😉
karmic matrix
what
cyan burrow
and i oop
cyan burrow
^
karmic matrix
its a normal thing
cyan burrow
😉
karmic matrix
you can't disable it
karmic matrix
no u
karmic matrix
no u
cyan burrow
didnt know it existed
cyan burrow
no u
fallow lintel
lol
cyan burrow
wut
cyan burrow
k
cyan burrow
bot
nova sandal
I thought bots ghost pinged people 🤷
mortal maple
psst #🐢・wizbot-crypt
nova sandal
I think he means bot as in bad ss player
mortal maple
Also, please keep the suggestions relevant. All the chaff just makes it annoying for people to find the real suggestions.
ivory python
listen to the master, children
cyan burrow
lol
mortal maple
Maybe we just need more toys in the wizbot playground.
karmic matrix
yeah
cyan burrow
lmao
still viper
Aye i got my suggestion approved
random plinth
There have been some changes to the #💡・suggestions channel where due to important community suggestions being buried the following things have changed:
- Slow mode has been moved to 6hours. Make sure your suggestion is worthwhile!
- Suggestions now will have their original posting replied to and decisions will not be reposted. This basically means half the clutter.
- Making joke suggestions, although sometimes pretty funny, is prohibited to make sure we are addressing the communities real suggestions for improvements. Feel free to post joke suggestions in the discussion or game channels!
still viper
Can I make a list of every unreplied to suggestion?
random plinth
If you want Tax sure
still viper
Yay!
cyan burrow
aight
ivory python
that's the first time I saw someone say yay when getting "permission" to go through a list of 400+ items 😄
mortal maple
It's true. There's a whole world of mind-numbing jobs opening up to you.
elder thistle
lol
karmic matrix
cyan burrow
lol
karmic matrix
you guys should make more guns in shell shockers
cyan burrow
LMFAO
karmic matrix
@random plinth
why
why 6 hours
i can understand 2
but why 6
i know, i shouldnt ping him
you dont need to type that zyrtec
elder thistle
lol
worldly plume
As Stinky Pete said in Toy Story 2:
"I tried reasoning with you, Woody, but you keep forcing me to take extreme measures."
karmic matrix
what?
worldly plume
turns off TV
karmic matrix
i've never seen toy story tbh
worldly plume
W H A T
worldly plume
No way you never saw Aladdin
quiet harnessBOT
ThunderCreeper96#3529 has been warned, this is their first warning.
random plinth
6 Hours so people think about their suggestions and don't make 16 separate ones in a day - I think it will work well!
You can always ask someone here to make the suggestion for you as well!
karmic matrix
yeah but why warn me .-.
worldly plume
Here comes the hurricane...
elder thistle
lol
random plinth
The ping^^
karmic matrix
and couldnt you just say: do not ping me heres the reason?
i mean
im sorry
but bruh
random plinth
It's ok its a pretty soft warn
karmic matrix
how long do they last in this discord
wind quiver
also, saying you know you shouldn't do it while you are doing it won't prevent you from being reprimanded for it
wind quiver
hello
worldly plume
Hello
cobalt gyro
.
karmic matrix
Hello
cyan burrow
bruh lmfao
karmic matrix
hoi
karmic matrix
hoi
nova sandal
yeah 6 is kinda tedious
elder thistle
but it is good!
nova sandal
hell ni
cyan burrow
when you literally steal the 2 suggestions above you and combine them into 1
ivory python
I have a better idea.. How about warning people who abuse the suggestions, and also making slowmode longer?
elder thistle
LOL
cyan burrow
LOL
cyan burrow
LMFAOOOOOOOOO
random plinth
Slowmode was changed to a massive 6 hours to avoid suggestionspam
wind quiver
i added the correct formatting for you @karmic matrix
karmic matrix
ok
wind quiver
i don't think a change of 2 damage would be noticeable with the shotgun, due to the spread of the bullets
it is at 170 damage total right now, divided by each bullet, i don't know how many bullets it fires, but 2 damage, distributed across that many bullets i don't know if it would make any noticeable difference at all
ivory python
20 bullets if I recall correctly
each with its own trajectory of course, the 170 is if all 20 of them hit the egg right at the centre
wind quiver
so that would be an increase of 1/10th a damage per bullet added, i don't think that would change much
nova sandal
#433 heck no kiddo, the crackshot is already powerful
wind quiver
oh, i just realized that it was the crackshot, not the shotgun, either way, still wont make a difference
nova sandal
I don't know the specs of the damage system, so I don't have a say in this
karmic matrix
zyrtec, honestly, i like the idea, but there are some things you havent considered:
karmic matrix
first, they need to add dislevels, to make the map not flat, to do that, they would need to make the players climb the towers which exposes them a lot
second, there would be no places to take cover, as the space to build in a small roof is limited
lethal topaz
more maps like two towers please
karmic matrix
third, drops of the orbs will have a high chance of falling into the void
worldly plume
Ok so if we scrap the last part, the buildings being the only floor..
karmic matrix
and 4th oni cannot boost jump so in most cases you end up dying because of the lack of mobility in the oni form
worldly plume
The whole idea of the map was opportunities for parkour; I'll think of something
karmic matrix
instead, ask something about adding a race mode
worldly plume
Oh yeah! That'd be cool.
karmic matrix
to parkour through a city to win in the least time possible
using only explosive weapons to knock the enemies down, with unlimited hp
karmic matrix
onestly i would like a one in the quiver / one in the chamber mode
worldly plume
Maybe a history-inspired map.
still viper
One in the chamber would be cool
karmic matrix
lets make them finish the second map first 😄
karmic matrix
or the colosseum
still viper
Add trebuchets to the game
karmic matrix
im totally not suggesting the colosseum because im italian...
worldly plume
I don't think it would work. The center provides very little shelter, and it would be kind of uninteresting
karmic matrix
true
still viper
Sewer/subway style map
karmic matrix
who needs maps
lets just make a map into a map
like a geographical map of the earth
into a map
worldly plume
As a throwback to Slayaway, a summer camp map
karmic matrix
add an acog
if you dont know, an acog is a scope for assault rifles with a x4 zoom
worldly plume
I like interactable stuff, but destructible environments might not be the best idea
karmic matrix
isaac and his mother, lived alone, on a house on top of a hill
worldly plume
There's a lot of stuff to consider: Gravity, fragments, quantity of a weapon's damage to a thing, etc
still viper
Yea
still viper
We could replace them
worldly plume
Maybe traps would be cool
still viper
Ooh, yea
worldly plume
Then we could do an Indiana Jones-style temple
That would work really well for race mode, if it comes to fruition
worldly plume
437 has been done
wind quiver
it is being done currently
mortal maple
Re: SideArms maps ...
- They don't take too long to prototype - it's mostly the textures that take a while - so send along those ideas.
- They don't all have to be appropriate for every mode. The new map wouldn't be great for ONI Battle, which is why we don't cycle it in.
wind quiver
Suggestion #439 Addendum: possibly the inclusion of game modes or maps specifically designed for different mobility types
karmic matrix
moon
im intrigued
can you specify how grappling hook boots would work?
i like the idea but i dont kina get what you are saying
wind quiver
i don't particuarly mean grappling hook boots, just grappling hooks as an example
then again, some media have like, grappling hook belts so that is a thing
mortal maple
Scorchville originally had zip lines. Talk to Murphy. He’s all over that stuff.
wind quiver
like, jet packs would have lots of vertical speed, but not much lateral speed, zip lines or grappling hooks would have fast directional speed, hoverboots could have like, slower speed, but more maneuverability
mortal maple
Movement is the big distinction between SideArms and other shooters. We plan on expanding that more in the future.
wind quiver
i had a feeling movement was important, that's why i decided to throw some ideas at it
mortal maple
It’s definitely a good thing to throw ideas at. Much like level construction.
wind quiver
maybe a drained sunken ancient city, ruins that were once underwater, but are now dry
worldly plume
Agreed. Ancient architecture of all kinds would look very cool
karmic matrix
what about a map named: Skyline, a space themed map with jump pads and clouds/planes on top of the area that you can reach only using the jump pads making 2 levels, a sky one and a ground one
maybe not space themed, more like futuristic
wind quiver
could also make some kind of factory level, the androids need to be built somewhere, possibly with assembly lines or like, pods with robots in them
still viper
200 done
worldly plume
Good work WordSmith!
mortal maple
Yeah, put ideas in suggestions or in the sidearms channel.
It's easier to find when there's less noise.
calm pasture
#443 , XP system in what?
still viper
Life
karmic matrix
@calm pasture in shell
still viper
Oh
calm pasture
What kind? 🤔
still viper
Im guessing (s)[t]he[y] are talking about one similar to killstreak
ivory python
I think #444 already exists through notifications, but I could be wrong
soft cove
also streaks can be faked easily
still viper
Reloading is the only way to prove
soft cove
Or recording it
karmic matrix
I made a suggestion to replace notifications with achievements but I think it got ignored 
random plinth
Certainly not Slobling, it's always talked about and on the table
still viper
Can we see the table?
soft cove
Achievements would be a great replacement for notifications
calm pasture
Is it just me or 445 useless?
calm pasture
Result are already given in same channel by editing that post by Wizbot and writing in itself, there is no spam now. So I don't think we need another.
calm pasture
Hmmm, good point
ivory python
well, don't react on stuff from 2 months ago, that's a pretty normal thing on Discord 😛
worldly plume
It was still a good suggestion though
worldly plume
Regarding 448, the thing of SS is that it's free and easily accessible. Not all people (school laptop gang) have the ability to download games.
karmic matrix
It could stay as a web game and a downloaded game
worldly plume
True, but if it were still a web game, the downloaded form would be rather redundant
still viper
I mean, the downloaded wouldn’t have to deal with browser limits
They did it with killstreak, don’t see why they couldn’t do it with shell. Granted, I’m not experienced in computers
still viper
To which one
worldly plume
I don't even know what the difference between Python and Java is
They're both code, right?
karmic matrix
Lol
still viper
Ones a snake ones coffee
worldly plume
I thought the monitor was the computer until 4th grade
karmic matrix
Python is easier, its all what i can say
cyan burrow
hot
gritty spindle
448# NO
elder thistle
ikr
wind quiver
@jade dragon discussion for suggestions goes here, if you want to make an official suggestion, you can use the command "!suggest" followed by your suggestion, additionally, there is a 6 hour slow mode enabled due to previous abuse of the the command
still viper
Rip
karmic matrix
@cinder flame bruh your suggestion 450
worldly plume
B
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jade dragon
Thank you @wind quiver , sorry for the ping
still viper
lol
still viper
#454: Why?
still viper
WizardSupport isnt a bot, is/are he/she/they?
wind quiver
that is an unnecessary suggestion
worldly plume
sirens
still viper
Bring in the catapults
worldly plume
The thing I disagree with about 456 is the Battle Royale mode. It's been suggested before, and I don't think it would work
lethal topaz
i would actually like having a battle royale gamemode.
wind quiver
a traditional battle royale gamemode would go against the play style of the game as it is, but there is a variation i know of that would follow the gameplay style for shell
i once played a game, that had the general gameplay of a battle royale game, I.E. spawn from a height, drop on a large map, gather resources, then take out other players, but in this case, there was no time limit, and no shrinking boundary, it was compeltely cyclical like the current form of shell shockers is, with a leaderboard and if you die, you just spawn back in like the first time, that would both incorporate the battle royale style, and keep in the traditions of the current game as it stands
lethal topaz
what i would want in battle royale is the fact that once u die u cant respawn and there is an actual victor of the match
it would be a different gamemode so you can still play normal shell
wind quiver
slobodan dislikes round based gameplay, and i have heard that it was tried once before, and it didn't go well, people didn't like it
lethal topaz
oh yes i remember playing that version on the dev website
i think the reason it didnt work that well is because there were 2 teams and 1 team won the match. Battle royale is competing for yourself to be the only winner.
again just my thoughts
lethal topaz
#458 torches are useful to jumping onto when dodging enemies
nova sandal
well no duh, because the round matches were like 1 minutes each
karmic matrix
Another battle royale suggestion? Bruh
Just stop with those suggestions, battle royale will never be a game mode because 1. There is only 7 guns 2. No one wants it 3. It would be bad
ivory python
if it's being suggested so often, I would think again about that 2nd point 😛
wind quiver
they will know a little better about how many people want to see it, it was in the survey linked to on the game page
lethal topaz
i think there will be a fair number of people voting for battle royale
random plinth
That will be great info
ivory python
I think I remember filling in a very similar survey before
around new years day maybe
lethal topaz
i was too lazy to get discord for the longest time
calm pasture
😹
solemn laurel
Furry?
still viper
I’d use it
solemn laurel
Thats something I’d say if I was mentally handicapped
still viper
?
still viper
A cool one
fierce iron
I feel his first round based gameplay was bad
It was just 2 min of playing then 10 sec wait then we kept on playing
He could have done much better then that
Along with the annoying 10 sec wait time per death
calm pasture
what is a curry bomb?
mortal maple
Tasty?
calm pasture
😮
solemn laurel
They oughta be trolling
fallow lintel
GREAT suggestions
random plinth
The quality of suggestions can vary wildly. I read them all but I'll be putting aside some time this weekend to answer a bunch of them
calm pasture
fallow lintel
there is an eu sidearms server @dusty fern
fallow lintel
dont think so
dusty fern
oof
lethal topaz
' Add a bacon launcher' 👌
ivory python
agree with buffing the pistol but I wouldn't mind reducing its fire rate which is basically unlimited now
maybe limit it to 200 RPM, that's still plenty high
and increase damage
lethal topaz
#465 that would promote team killing
calm pasture
#465, it would ruin some situations, like, if your team-mate if fighting someone, you can just put a bomb there and kill them, but after team-killing , both will die :(
dusty fern
450rpm is only 7.5 per second i know a lot of people including myself who can click faster then that
calm pasture
😮
lethal topaz
thats insane
ivory python
OK I just did a click speed test and I actually beat 7.5 clicks per second myself, I'm surprised 😄 https://clickspeedtest.com/
I don't think I can click that fast AND aim accurately at the same time though, that's beyond me 🙂
dusty fern
and its not completely true bc when i use the gun ingame i can click 7.5 times per second but it wont shoot as many bullets i think the stat posted in the version log isnt actually what it is
ivory python
I'll dive into the code
dusty fern
do u have the server side code???
calm pasture
anyone can access that
dusty fern
you mean inspect element
bc that's not the server side code
and it would be a security breach if u can read that
calm pasture
i Think it is from one of the .js file, in which main game resides, I also once opened that, It is probably 120 lines + if I remember correctly
ivory python
120 lines, you wish 🙂
calm pasture
but I never saw it correctly or read it ¯_(ツ)_/¯
ivory python
it's 131k lines 😛
calm pasture
I missed the k 😹
ivory python
oh lol
450 rpm for the cluck seems to be correct, of course you'll only get that if you click exactly at the right speed
if you click once per 133.3 milliseconds, you will fire one round for each click
but let's say you click faster, like once per 100 milliseconds... then your 2nd click comes too soon
so you will have 200 milliseconds between shots
karmic matrix
@dusty fern there is alredy a europe server lol
calm pasture
#466 already suggested so many time
lethal topaz
yup
calm pasture
I know it is good, but it is suggested so many times 😹
karmic matrix
oh okay :|
lethal topaz
hopefully something like this gets implemented into the game soon
calm pasture
also suggested many times
random plinth
and certainly something we consider often
👌
calm pasture
calm pasture
no inappropriate words (suggestive also) @solemn laurel
ivory python
#470 it was way more annoying when that was not a thing, people would make 10v3 teams all the time because they're scared to die
but i do think it could be loosened a bit, like you can still make slightly unbalanced teams, just not too much
still viper
Yea
lethal topaz
Yeah at least if the old maps cant be public we should be able to play on them in private
karmic matrix
lol
wind quiver
there have been a few people that want some kind of nuke weapon of some kind, but i think that if something like that were added, it would have to be it's own whole gamemode
calm pasture
I suggested that once, but as a joke
severe flicker
yea like every 10 mins a grenade spawns in a hiding spot
or u can only fire it 10 mins after u pick it up
wind quiver
it would likely have to be a gamemode where there is one of that item and everyone knows where it is, and you have to fight to get it, and maybe if people are underground or in a covered location, they would be safe, maybe with a timer in between when the thing spawns, so people can prepare
wind quiver
it wouldn't be a round based mode, the timer would just reset when the item is used and it would keep going
still viper
I like it
wind quiver
lol in that gamemode, what people call the "bunker" will actually work as a real bunker
solemn laurel
When did I say an Innapropiate word? @calm pasture
lethal topaz
and yet again another battle royale suggestions
still viper
Last man standing isn’t quite battle royale
severe flicker
yea
fallow lintel
it is tho
severe flicker
kind of
still viper
No, battle royale is you start with minimal equipment and gain weapons from the map. Last man standing is just a normal game but permanent death
karmic matrix
thats what a battle royale is, they're synonyms
still viper
The fundamentals are the same, yes. Gameplay is different though
solemn laurel
^
fallow lintel
still the fundamentals are the same
lethal topaz
well its somewhat similar so i decided to say battle royale
solemn laurel
ok
wind quiver
"Battle royale (plural battles royal, also royale) traditionally refers to a fight involving many combatants that is fought until only one fighter remains standing"
^this is the definition of battle royale^
mortal maple
So what sort of scale are people wanting for these modes? 20 ppl? 50? 100?
lethal topaz
20 is good
karmic matrix
In SS 20 would be pretty fine, same with sidearms. The maps arent too big so unless you were to make a BR map anything over 20 is too chaotic
mortal maple
Just curious because currently most of these games are optimized for rooms of 10-20 people. It’s a big endeavor to accommodate more than that.
wind quiver
lol, 100 person match in castle arena
mortal maple
How would you see a 20 person battle royale playing out?
sharp wadi
thinking of that ruins my day
lethal topaz
everyone spawns in at the same time, the winner gets extra eggs
sharp wadi
I've had enough with fortnite replica ideas