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so are jos and fin mcgowan
Is there a way we can thank our lords (Devs) for the AMAZING lore?
@covert venture Lynch was a wild child who somehow got her hands on a true deck (deck of legitimate tarots traded by hunters, used to predict future). She does anything the cards tell her, as they help prevent her death.
something I find really interesting is how the 60 minute time limit in Bounty is canon, as evidenced in the monstorium entries for the Armored
Cavalry saber 1/2
same image
is there a place i can see what masteries you guys are missing so i can give what i have?
@rotund ferry take a look at water devil entry
@viscid briar dm me
I've read them all - I'm not seeing anything in the water devil entry about round times?
There's a brief mention of double bounties but that seems more in reference to having eliminated competition as well as looting weapons, rather than a double bounty as we may know it
does anybody know if they implemented a critical system or something like that?
pistol 1shots without a headshot is something new for me.
@rotund ferry it talks about only being able to stay in "dead zones" for an hour
Also I think it's Meathead lore
it ended in the 1860s i believe could be wrong tho
it started in 1895
@spark portal this is the lore tab dog.
@forest condor @rotund ferry armored lore references only being able to stay in deadzone for an hour
Water devil says (theyve been walking for hours)
@junior pecan i gotchu dog
I assumed walking for hours would include them travelling towards the dead zone
because evidently it only covers a 1km square
our hunters travel by cart or steamboat but theoretically you could still walk it
I think the walk is away from the deadzone with a bounty
@sinful trout that pax 2/3?
Two of arrows meaning in tarot:
The crossed pair of golden Arrows represents a well-matched and balanced set of energies, equal and equitable partners. They are united by an infinite loop, but not bound or restricted by its circles. This card indicates a new partnership of great potential: in business, travel or industry. The stars between the Arrows are the source of its inspiration, and the seedlings on either side of the cross symbolize the fruits of such a partnership.
Reversed = Fiery,competitive energy
just putting this out there
The 2 of arrows is part of the minor arcana(the lesser tarot cards) and it comes from spain/italy
@sinful trout did you post here the other lebel masteries?
We only have 4/4
I believe its marksmen? (Or talon)
Also need i note we only need conversion 1/4 now
The hermit.
Yes
He lives
Speak
I'm in awe at being able to finally talk about lore again tho.
Why were you unable?
Phone was stolen.
Unfortunate
Ah, any new NPC's?
None, my child
FeelsBadMan
@wooden hound are you aware of the possession yet? Someone other than Lynch is using advanced voodoo, could be an entity
Can repost it if you’d like
Yes, I'd like a repost, please.
Got it, gimme a few minutes.
bomblance1/2
Bomblance2/2
And saber1/2
all reposts
Lynch's surprise in bomblance2/2 indicates it was not her doing. I suspect the individual mentioned in "Empty Cairn" legendary skin
Interesting, sculptor possibly?
Unlikely, it seems allied with AHA in its speech
Any stamps? Sentence?
Stamps as In sentences
What makes it seem like the AHA is connected, the ritual?
"Do not award your allegiance so easily. You do not know her, and you do not belong to her. You belong to eachother. Your allegiance is yours to give or take. Your second initiation begins today, and ends when you find me again."
Second initiation references the inoculation, probably
Twins have to be inoculated to have been in the deadzone
Whether it speaks to Fin or Jos I don't know
What snake demon can cause possession?
Snake was likely just a manifestation
Either it was the work of a man (or woman), or the work of an otherworldly entity
Odds of snakes in alternate dimensions seems slim
Seems to be little congruence between our side and that of the clues
just pain
and mentions of ash
Can't remember where, but theres a doc on the official website from an AHA member describing the world through the clues, peering into the other reality to find the bosses.
I'm referring to that other reality
Maybe the dead zone is in the other world?
The issue with this is that someone was working against Lynch. And Lynch runs the voodoo side of shit. Marie Laveau works for her, so shes likely connected with Voodoo doctor too.
Dead zone is the reach of the unstable portal within Louisiana
Wherever the sculptor's influence reaches, is the dead zone. With the exception of Assassin, who I personally suspect to be a contractor of sorts
Well after the beefrat and Harpo theory kinda feels like a traitor, and the possession would work as well.
Then again, beefrat and Harpo were exceptionally bad hunters
@junior pecan
My name has been invoked
you're the voudou expert, right?
Expert’s a strong word but I did some work for scholastic research on the subject that ended up actually being relevant in the lore research here, ye.
did you come across any snake loas?
Snakes are extremely important in voudou. I’ll have to type in just a bit.
Ogun is mentioned, though waved away
On the road atm.
something about a god of chance
There are tons of spirits mentioned in the lore, veves referenced on items, etc.
Snakes are heavily associated with Damballah, particularly in Haiti, where most of the Huntverse lore seems to draw inspiration. This is his veve.
He’s supposedly the creator of all life and all that Jazz.
but are gods able to create animals / control them?
or make you see things
like visions
as far as I know they can only posess ppl
@late tinsel Anything about canebrake snakes in particular?
Hey guys, just wanted to say I love the setting and think its so unique. Been reading up on the lore on the Hunt wiki and realized there is a ton of info missing on locations and stuff. Will that slowly be introduced?
I want to know more about the organization and stuff described in many social media posts over the last couple years and was wondering if they had any plans to expand on that in the short term
@sinful trout Thanks for putting together the whole Monstorvum
What language is written all over the walls and texts btw that seem to be more rune-ish
@wintry panther it was a team effort. And voynich
@amber harbor Depends on the Loa and how powerful the specific one we’re talking about is. Yes, there are Loa capable of creation, and allowing possession is actually heavily encouraged in some circles. There are practitioners who believe there are Loa powerful enough to possess dead bodies and use them as their vessels.
@junior pecan not that I found during my research. It never seemed any one snake was revered over another, but I haven’t dug deep enough to know for certain.
Also, @wintry panther, it’s always nice to see folks interested in the Huntverse lore scene! If you have any questions, you might be surprised at how much some of the veterans around here actually have managed to piece together! Never be afraid to ask anything.
@late tinsel Thanks! I am actually super super interested into diving more into it and was sad it wasn't completed yet
I have a couple questions: one: what drove the zombies and everything to appear? two: how extensive of a network is the hunters, like is there actually an organization or is it more rogue than that? three: are the bosses formed from hunters who fall prey to the rifts and mutate (that was my impression from one of the stories)? four: what are the largest influences on the culture of this game, seems like a mix of voodoo and was wondering what the foundations of the zombies and bosses and hunters are?
Little evidence to my previous theory. (Possible traitor in the AHA)
Is there a place to see what the overall story timeline is up to this point or what we know?
guardini?
guardini just likes hunting people
aha is aware of the kilings in the orginization
they just want their bounty
@sinful trout didn't mean to add him.
Lol
@wintry panther check the pinned messages.
theres no timeline in the lore doc
@wintry panther
1: an entity called the sculptor came to our realm and started slowly making residents go mad in an area of effect, called the dead zone. There were some that were immune or died before being turned. I'm not sure but I think grunts come from dead people. Each enemy class has a role to fulfill (more in the BoM).
2:The AHA is more rogue, they only exchange money for bounty and initiate hunters. There are multiple chapters of the AHA, but the actual hunters are in for their own reasons, htey only get paid for bounty. Anything else doesn't concern the AHA.
3:Bosses are formed from people before hunters get there. They respawn after death , as each has a role to fulfill in the sculptor's army(BoM for more).Spider is like 7 ppl who were buried in a mass grave, Butcher was a taxidermed meathead come to life somehow(dont mention it to Var), and the assassin was a guy named Vincent who apparently was able to roam non infested areas.
4:Most influence is voudou and Lovecraft.
Spider was 13 iirc
Whigc makes it more spooky
Also according to the trials of Dr Reed it seems you don't have to die to become a grunt
Seeing as he defended into madness without dyinf
Wjat makes you think theres a traitor?
@forest condor but we dont know he became a grunt for sure
just chopped up his party
The German letter mentions a dragon, that's probably a metaphor yeah?
Be interesting otherwise lol
Finished all Pax and Pax Claw masteries, do we still need them? 
@amber harbor oh no we do
Check the image at the end
If you enhance the contrast you see a grunt
I've said it once I'll say it again there is only one god in Hatian Vodou and that is Bondye. Loa are not gods to be worshiped, but spirits to be honored and served but not worshiped. They intermediaries for Bondye. Sort of like saints or angels.
@amber harbor Thank you so much ily
That helps so much! Just that right there puts everything into perspective
@wooden hound Thanks for the @ ill look over that doc asap
@devout cedar i slogged through the nagants last night, i still got one left
I just realized something isnt the Butcher Peter Roche
"It is unknown how the Young Roche lived out the final days of his life. For the next twenty years he got by as best he could. He was regarded as a dangerous recluse, absorbed in his own gluttony and paranoia, eager to carve up whatever he could get his hands on…" = "As I walked the grounds, I came across an enormous carcass, over six feet tall, and at least 350 pounds. Its flesh was soft, mealy, and pale, and at its shoulder a well of leeches, now dead but clearly not an addition to, but a part of the body. " & "While exploring the other rooms, I have found evidence that someone with a similar, if more gruesome, passion dwelled here once. I hope I do not meet him, though as I said, this place appears to have been empty for some time"
Peter Roche (son to inherit the slaughterhouse) went mad and loved to eat large and cut up things, then the taxidermist takes over the place later (as said in the Butcher lore) and finds the remnants of Peter Roche and makes it into his own creation
he taxidermed the meathead
and put a pig head on it bc it didint feel complete
the butcher is a mystery bc hes the only thing not made from actual fless
its just wood and clay that somehow camne to life and now bleeds blood
except it doesnt make sense
Well yeah.... idk if Vodou talks about it but maybe the concentration of death is a cause?
Could we add some tabs to the Hunt Showdown Lore doc about location history?
I know the wiki has a couple available
I think most location history stuff is on the official website
True, then maybe just that
Mosin 2/X 
Just a question because I am curious: What is currently unclear in the lore that you guys would want them to dive more into?
@wintry panther did
Did you just
DID YOU FUCKING SAY THAT TAXADERMIED MEATHEAD WAS DARK?!?
@sinful trout well...... darker than just a fat dude getting resurrected with a pig head
0_0
@wooden hound What is it?
@wintry panther what do you mean?
Ohhh, nvm
Dude has a hunting partner, breaks his partners hatchet an makes an improvised weapon, get spotted, shotgun blasts one dude, finishes the other with the hatchet end. @wooden hound
@wooden hound
@wintry panther
0_0
definitely not my experience using it.....
Must have prestiged a couple times before he got to that level
Yea... Damn prestige 15's...
You hit them in the arm with a shotgun and they adad up to you with the ax ready.... gets me every time
Could anyone explain to me the setting of Louisiana during this time, I know there are mentions of a couple wars. I can only think of the War of 1812 and Civil War but dont know if there are more territorial ones here. Additionally, as a touch up during the Civil War how far south did the North end up going?
Search it.
Ernest spleger drank a strange liquid then suddenly turns to stone, is the liquid known, or otherworldly
Sheriff Hardin is a dickhead
ok
nono i mean, i unlocked most of the nagant pages last night
and they talk a little about him
b o i
Its 1898 or somethin around there i believe @wintry panther
So in case you were wondering about Louisiana's civil war history.... "Before the Civil War, Louisiana was a major slave state. In 1860, 47% of the population was in slavery. However Louisiana also had one of the largest free black populations in the United States.
On January 26, 1861, Louisiana seceded from the United States. However sections of the state were strongly Union, so the U.S. Congress made those parts a state and allowed it to have a governor and U.S. Congressmen. Louisiana formed 265 military units for the Confederacy and 23 for the Union" So turns out Louisiana was split into two states briefly and one was Union and One was Confederate. The Union part mainly being the little point off the South East section.
Much of the white population, particularly in the cities, supported southern states' rights and slavery, while pockets of support for the U.S. and its government existed in the more rural areas.
New Orleans, the largest city in the South, was strategically important as a port city due to its southernmost location on the Mississippi River and its access to the Gulf of Mexico. The U.S. War Department early on planned for its capture. The city was taken by U.S. Army forces on April 25, 1862. Because a large part of the population had Union sympathies (or compatible commercial interests), the U.S. government took the unusual step of designating the areas of Louisiana then under U.S. control as a state within the Union, with its own elected representatives to the U.S. Congress. For the latter part of the war, both the U.S. and the Confederacy recognized their own distinct Louisiana governors.
Lousiana was actually a lot more central to the Civil War than I thought... the Mississippi River being central to the Union's plan for victory
@wintry panther BUTCHER LORE IS COMPLETELY SILLY
Yea, it's unreliability can spread a lot of misinformation.
HOW DARE YOU
I genuinely thought it was Peter Roche's body until you guys cleared it up
Its seems to try and steer you in that direction
Idiot
T_T
Duh
Youre asking the wrong question @wooden hound
What deranged fuck sees a rock, opens it, sees a liquid and goes "ooh yummy"
Spelger does.
True.
Apparently.
The legend of the mad lad.
cave johnson intensifies
Lol, but a liquid with the effects of petrification, seems interesting.
Are there otherworldly minerals
Maybe its a geode containing larvae?
As we know the armoureds chitin is made from beetles
Larvae that cause petrification..?
Well, most everything is sort of bug/insect related.
Perhaps the beetles did the preserving
maintaining their host
Yeah
Lore father doesnt fit me
Theory hermit does
Why can't you be lore hermit?
Yea, change it back ***B. O. I. ***
Ok so reading more into Louisiana state history, As part of the Compromise of 1877, under which Southern Democrats acknowledged Republican Rutherford B. Hayes as president, there was the understanding that the Republicans would meet certain demands. One affecting Louisiana was the removal of all U.S. military forces from the former Confederate states. At the time, U.S. troops remained in only Louisiana, South Carolina, and Florida, but the Compromise saw their complete withdrawal from the region.
And around this time is Plessy v. Ferguson- a huge trial about black rights. For those not American, In short, the ruling was segregation did not in itself constitute unlawful discrimination. Plessy v. Ferguson was a landmark 1896 U.S. Supreme Court decision that upheld the constitutionality of racial segregation under the “separate but equal” doctrine. The case stemmed from an 1892 incident in which African-American train passenger Homer Plessy refused to sit in a car for blacks.
Speak child
So the armored's armornis beetles?
Have you read the armored entry?
Well then the court would still be deciding on this but it would have been brought to the attention
Dude Louisiana was lit in the 1890s
1891 Mar 14, A mob in New Orleans broke open a jail after a court dismissed charges against 19 Italian men indicted for the murder of police chief David C. Hemmessey. 11 of 19 defendants were hanged. The book "Vendetta" by Richard Gambino, and the movie of the same name, covered the event.
Wishing scognamilio weren't DEAD!
Otherworldly minerals would be great for more weapons.
@wintry panther
Let's talk about lore
@wooden hound Im all about it
So, what do you think about the lore so far, other than the butcher.
I need to read up on all the articles and newpaper clippings from in game though.... I havent read through the Monstorum yet
There's a PDF drive/file pinned.
Honestly I want to learn more about the world and I think that the locations give some super cool insight into the world
Yeah Im at work rn so slowly going through it
Just cant completely focus on it
I want to spark notes it all into like a small chapter for each so that anyone can get the ghist
paragrpah*
Paragrpah.
@wooden hound I have a question though, so i forget where but there was an article about the fact that the number of zombies is increasing and never stopping (I think it was from hayward H)
Do we know why it is ever growing even with all the hunters
And how do souls get damned
Probably like the hive, copies being rebuilt and duplicated.
So what is the end game of the hunters then.... or the AHA.... or is there no overall goal other than damage mitigation
Because they say they have been around forever but the containment doesnt seem to be working
So is this a problem across America?
In little pockets/
It's like hunting game.
But they also try to keep it from spiraling downward.
@wintry panther
@wooden hound I have a question for you
Do you think that there is biblical background to the infection?
Im reading through the immolator lore rn and seems like they believe so
And do you think that there is any significance to there being two clues in some locations versus others
religion doesnt have any corelation
some get it right
some more than others
especially voudou
Why do you think voudou is closer than others?
the whole voudou loa thing
Var'uun, Theory Hermit has entered the chat
Who is the voudou master in this group
@amber harbor Is there a heavy creole influence in the game as well?
@wintry panther I'll post a reason to the voodoo thing
@sinful trout will there be another ama btw?
@wooden hound Ahhhh that note explains so so much!
Yea.
No, sculptors typically shape things, correct?
And in the spider lore it was referred to as the sculptor.
Had multiple names, Satan, devil, Beelzebub, etc. But sculptor fits his ability best.
@wintry panther its anything really SD long ad its understood
As
voudou is the original name , voodoo is simplified afaik
also there is a creole influence
the haitian creole is the secret language hunters use
Gotcha, so would that explain why the problem persists in Louisiana alone?
Or is there mention anywhere of it beyond the state or of AHA
I'm pretty sure there are mentions of AHA like associations in other parts of the world
It seems like the hunters dont care about stopping the sculptor since it is a source of revenue for them
Is this only some of them? or a common viewpoint
They use it and keep it maintained.
Gotcha so it is regulated in a way we just dont know by who
Somewhat I believe the society sometimes works as a whole, but this man had his own reason, as does everyone else.
Gotcha
Is there any qualifications to being a hunter?
And also how does a soul become damned for quick play?
Is that specified anywhere?
@wintry panther OK, so a soul isn't exactly "damned," as far as I know, and so far you have to survive rituals to become a qualified hunter.
@wooden hound I know that there are the letters that talk about how with each rift you go to you become more human and the affect it has
I just dont know what the implications are exactly
there have been many events
varying in intensity and location
there are a lot of aha like organisations all over the globe
they mostly keep to their area, but nothing stops some hunters from going somewhere else
Awesome thank you!
sorry for the delayed responses I was in a match
Nah no worries
@wintry panther So, here's some info about the deadzone.
whats here about the dead zone?
BTW do you think Elwood Finch was silenced because he started looking too deep into the source of the infections nad that is why he was sent to the Asylum
Ah, sorry, just remembered that the info wasn't from the notes, but prowler.
He was the guy in charge of sending out hunters
He had the hut that they would return to
Doesn't the AHA watch and/or kill anyone who knows too much about the affliction?
its unknown
imo the AHA is too decentralised to be sending assassins john wick style
but they could just put a bounty on their head
This seems to imply that Huff though clearly has a lot more power than is being let on
Like the beefrat and Harpo theory?
And that the Asylum is up to some shady stuff
I think the problem kinda takes care of itself
I dont think there is coincidence that the superintendent of the Asylum is also in charge of the AHA
true
So, lynch had the ability to possess?
but thats just a theory
Also, me, being as dense as humanly possible, doesn't know what IMO means.
Is there any evidence
cool
in my opinion
thats bounty hunt
a guy who found all 3 spider clues
I think its based on alpha clues, when you could see through the eyes of the boss when taking a clue
Gotcha ok sorry got a little confused by this
idk if they were translated
So no one has looked into those symbols yet?
Maybe we.could search Haitian creole, symbols.
Hold on.
ok
Damn it he beat me too it.
Post all symbols
here are all cyphers that work, in cronological order
does anyone know what date these were posted?
Hold on.
I think there was one from each picture
It was posted December 18, 2017
So might be outdated
"The following story was originally published on Twitter, day for day. The passing of time between each cipher is marked with two crosses."
oh
then I think the first thing might be the only valid one
but it doesnt mean shit
just random letters
Seizure much?
You know what
Soooo... No questions?
wot
Well I wanted to ask it says that these were from Twitter
is there any lore on there not posted on the website
Not that I know of, maybe even more lore on twitter
And do we know what the letters are
see up
Hello, steven.
haitian creole
It says "SIN" on the first picture, the others are a bit blurry, Im looking into it
Here is this one since it got blocked perviously
Thanks!
If you find it out, I'll unscramble.
This is a hard language to distinguish the breaks in the letters
Yea, if only var'uun were here.
He who talks with the Theory Hermit should look to it that he himself does not become a monster
- Nietzsche
Lol, is that real?
True story
Im green now bois
You got Xbox??
Damn ittt
it's strange
How so?
only the first picture has a "real" word
Jap Slaps picture in order is most likely "SIN SY? EANM NAN MAJI SY?N AN"
The possession in bomblance couldn’t have been Lynch as she arrived confused, we have either a new individual capable of high level vodou or we have the work of another entity, likely one from a stable rift looking to affect our reality
Perhaps in conflict with sculptor
this is a sick channel good work to all you contributors ❤
@sick vault I cut them from the order they were posted so I am not sure
What forms of entity's do unstable portals bring?
The entities are foreign, sure, but all life capable of making the intellectual decisions that sculptor has made (investing in specialized foot soldiers, reanimating bosses to spur competition between hunters) has to have conflict with its counterparts. And conflict always resembles, even in the most foreign reality.
I'd assume stable portals bring powerful entities.
Stable is the everyday vodou, while unstable causes incidents like sculptor
Probably
So is the sculptor's role to bring about stability or balance?
or is it a byproduct
Hunters are taking advantage of the situation in Louisiana to garner wealth. Sculptor is likely performing a mirrored action in his own reality
It says in the qna they're here for hunger, so maybe there are other entities planning the Sam, and unstable portal brought it? Far fetched, I know.
Same*
the long part on the 5th picture, MAJI and SY?N, MAJI and SYANS is "magic" and "science" in creole
Oooh getting close
Living things always strive to gather wealth and security. Although sculptors influence has wained with time, I’d imagine he has no intention in surrendering Louisiana
Which is what they believe the monsters to be, correct? Some take a scientific approach like Scognamilio? Right?
The actions of AHA pose no direct threat to him, only to his assets
@junior pecan Question for you, this was talked about a little earlier but do you think Huff has a lot more power than is being let on. And that the Asylum is up to some shady stuff. I dont think there is coincidence that the superintendent of the Asylum is also in charge of the AHA
True it could just be that
He could be using it as a cover up for some project, like studying the infected entities, like when Harold Black said he decided to stay and study monsters.
@wintry panther
@wintry panther Huff comes across to me as genuinely desperate to enable the hunters to better do their work. All of his correspondence with Victor Caldwell so far has been that of urgent request and seeming sincerity, up until his betrayal. This interest in arming the hunters, combined with a lack of interest in Harold Black and Scoggo’s work shows me that he does not seek to exploit the sculptor, but to be rid of it. He was at one point a very active hunter himself, and I’d imagine he holds genuine care for his brothers in arms despite their tendency to murder each other
On top of this, the man’s education implies that he already worked within the asylum, or in some similar field of study, prior to his promotion
Or, it may just be a genuine asylum.
It doesn’t seem to be a thing he got from favors, but something he truly earned through merit
My question came from this
Since Huff moves Elwood into the Asylum once he starts investigating why the number of infected has actually increased even with Hunter activity
There it is again, mention of gold, not hunt dollars or cash
there isn't much more in the pictures. Sin and magic / science are clear, it says "into" on the picture with the hunter that looks "into" the clue and "in" on the last spider picture.
Another thing that interested me is how it seems that hunters just fall into wealth and it isnt something directly gianed "Though those who have survived to make hunting their career often seem to find themselves becoming quite wealthy, it appears that many are transients with no home or family to speak of or return to. "
Often seems to find themselves
So, final question, does it have any value towards lore?
True gold is mentioned
I swear to god I remember hunt dollars being called gold
@wintry panther After all, they risk their life for supernatural traits, and items.(?)
looks like hints how people deal with the event, religion, science, magic, nothing new
Hmmm sorry for the random hunt for clues that was nothing @sick vault
Well, it was fun.
Perhaps perks are the work of Damballah/the theoretical third party
voynich and creole are always fun
Yea, lore hunting is fun.
It did seem to be bargaining with fin McGowan
Though why it sought to separate the twins I don’t know
Sin=We, the Hunters, blocked it out for too long. We saw the things hidden there, confined to arteries. Living in the pulse.
Magic, science=The world returned. The Faustian revelation, fresh, grinding within my mind. Another anomaly was calling, weak and far.
Into=I reached into the wound. Tore it open. It engulfed me in billows of fiery heat. I was made to relive the death in its depths.
Hol' up.
In=Too many elbows bent and fingers curled. Nails like claws, some torn out their bed. My face bloated, convulsing at my touch.
What engulfed him.
Holy shit where did you find this
What I remember most? The smell: still lingering, burnt flesh and sulfur. Seeped into the earth, seeped into me. Then the pain.
++
I reached into the wound. Tore it open. It engulfed me in billows of fiery heat. I was made to relive the death in its depths.
This was posted a while ago Dec 18,2017
@junior pecan its the hunt wiki.
And on the official website
Never knew this was there
Faustian revelation implies there have been anomalies before the time of Julius Ceaser, likely stable though
Seriously?!
Faust is a German folktale of a man selling his soul for infinite wisdom
Could explain the other powerful entity.
So could this describe damned hunters too maybe? Or how the hunters get their powers
Or what they trade every time they look at a clue
Ash, maybe he is being burned?
Calling it a revelation makes it sound like “industrial revolution” as though it was a grand event in history, birth of vodou magic
@sick vault Could you confirm which word pairs with what posts?
Sin=We, the Hunters, blocked it out for too long. We saw the things hidden there, confined to arteries. Living in the pulse.
Magic, science=The world returned. The Faustian revelation, fresh, grinding within my mind. Another anomaly was calling, weak and far.
Into=I reached into the wound. Tore it open. It engulfed me in billows of fiery heat. I was made to relive the death in its depths.
In=Too many elbows bent and fingers curled. Nails like claws, some torn out their bed. My face bloated, convulsing at my touch.
I remember this, this one talks about opening clues.
Yeah this was about the pursuit of the spider just saw the words in the pics
These writings could be ancient.
Its creole
Though if it’s about spider it’s recent
Is the sculptor constantly weakening?
Whoever wrote this KNOWS things
When was the spiderreleased?
Spider was built.
Built, then resurrected
Again, and again, and again
Sculptor saw opportunity. In spider, in butcher, and especially in assassin
So he reanimated them, to put the hunters against each other probably
@wooden hound sculptor HAS to be weakening, if their hungry then their reality must have some semblance of conservation of energy, therefore every action he takes is an investment. Every grunt that dies and is reanimated costs him.
Unstable rift will collapse eventually.
Keeping him trapped in this dimension?
So I have a question, what was the purpose of Coopers Casket journals
I wonder what caper he is planning. Judging by the nature of vodou his reality is one of wavering energy, while ours is one of energy imbued matter. How will he move matter back to his own? Oh
Banishment
Well Revelations is all about Satan reigning for a period of time on Earth and then God coming with his army to take it back and create a New Earth
He’s made a deal
Every boss we banish goes back to that place, while the bosses are still of this world, he needs only reanimate corpses with his abundant energy, sacrificing some in the process to gain access to precious matter
Imagine having access to a foreign energy, something not of your own reality. God knows how useful it could be
Sculptor somehow feels like cthulu
Not suggesting he is
But, it is said cthulus true form would bring you out of your sanity.
No, Cthulhu is giant, something to fear due to his stature in our terms. Sculptor is alien, it holds power unimaginable to us, but it cannot kill directly
Read up.
It holds no power in our terms
I kno, just sayin, he’s so different
The concept of Cthulhu is about making man insignificant, but this is perhaps an unspoken agreement, empowering both parties, man and sculptor
Did Vincent make a deal with the sculptor?
Do you think that like contracts with devils typically go, where at first there is a hunger for power, and later consquences. that sculptor is allowing hunters to use dark vision and stuff to feed off them in the end?
Not a deal in that concept, but a set of events orchestrated by one entity that forces a trade both benefit from
Is there a contrary power to the Sculptor then?
Hunters get bullshit magical powers through energy imbued in the bounties, sculptor gets alien matter for some other purpose
@wintry panther They seem greedy, wanting wealth rather than banishing the sculptor.
Like a good power if Sculptor is the bad power
Damballah
See bomblance, it could be a man, but it sounds like an entity that works to counteract the sculptor, perhaps by influencing the tier 3 hunters, imbuing them with additional perks, in exchange for, something
is that where they get the tattoos from
They tattoo themselves out of superstition, but I’d be pretty superstitious if I was bargaining with an otherworldly power
Their skin infection, I suspect
Nothing is exactly too powerful, after all creatures from his dimension would probably also be powerful.
Maybe the entity is from his dimension
Precisely, they hold little power in our alien world, but just like us, they are masters of their own
Spooky shit
A mirrored conflict. Hunters killing and taking from hunters, entities sabotaging and stealing from entities
And a sculptor like there was one before, or had different abilities.
Q: Have both sides been closely increasing their strength in a balanced manner?
A: No…
Q: Is hierarchy of the enemy known? I.E. Lieutenants, Sculptors etc...
A: Depends on what you mean by “Enemy
Likely similar abilities, think vodou gods. Possession, biological manipulation, and literal sculpting of environments with certain materials
Just started reading through the lore qna
@wintry panther Maybe the sundering was a past visit from a sculptor.
So voudou suggests there has to be balance in nature right? or am i completley wrong
Does the Sculptor balance out Damballah
Not exactly, Damballah is a counterattacker.
Q: Were the hunters/humans/people ever able to go into sculptor/hell dimension?
A: Yes
How bad was it?
A: Pretty Bad
Wait so we can travel onto their side too?
Could be, but don’t think of it that way. This is another reality, with its own rules. Religion is a poor explanation, not a rule book. Think of them as people, just entirely different. Their motivations will be the same, that is a guarantee of all things that hunger.
We’ve likely been booted into their reality before, just as they’ve been booted into ours
OHHHHHHHHHHH so people in our reality are trying to use religion to explain these phenomenon when its more supernatural than that
All the letters then are through the lense of religion when that isnt the case
Yea, these are “living” things, they are after the same stuff we are, just in a different form. Power, security. Hierarchy of needs still applies, but it needs simplification due to their alien nature
@wintry panther The deadzone is also the source, which may allow the ability to enter the sculptor dimension.
Probably, I suspect clues are bridges
I mean I know that people gaze into the clues
Torn open and quickly falling asunder, an unstable rift
and its supposed to be gateways through right?
So this is more sci-fi than I thought
So is our (the games) world stuck in between a battle between these aliens
Nobody made those, they happened. Otherwise the entities would attempt something in Antarctica, work their way up from there
So Louisiana is just the battleground for these aliens then right?
Not a battle, an interaction, we are just as incomprehensible to them as they are to us
Gotcha
There will always be Damballah’s though
Q: Is this particular incident in 1895 important? It seems that there is a bit of research trying to
figure things out in regards to this particular event.
A: Yes… This is not an ordinary hunt. The results will be significant for the story
People who KNOW how to work with the other side, people like Lynch
But this is a pivotal one though righ?
Probably because sculptor is succeeding.
Like Vincent maybe?
Banishment was not a new concept, but revival of bosses was
So our hunters were familiar with banishment?
Yes, they came for the bounty initially, it was not a new concept, clues perhaps, though not likely
Then they realized the bounties were coming back, more money to be made
@junior pecan Hints toward what the sundering may be?
Not sure. No way to know, could have been the most recent rift, could have been the so called Faustian Revelation
Q: The giant hives around the area, is it some early form of evolution or just a mark left by the
sculptor? (Creatures that have connection to those hives are Armored and Hives)
A: Maybe your “sculptor” can sculpt more than bodies hm?
Is this why the Butcher was made from inanimate objects
The hives a mixed sculpture of animate, and inanimate.
Yes, sculptor has shown an ability to replicate matter, but not create original, with TWO exceptions. The armored’s husk, and the giant afflicted areas
Is sculptor one entity or a type of alien
Both seeming incredibly unnatural, carapace in nature is rounded, not jagged
Gotcha
Both I believe. Something without a body. Pure energy floating about in a reality with little to no mass.
So it is adapting potentially
Ahhh so sculptor is an entity and takes forms in different ways
It’s trying, but he’s inexperienced,
No, creating creatures as soldiers.
He doesn’t create the creatures thoug
Its just different forms of one god?
Plague creates them, he replicated, down to the minutiae
The initial affect of the Louisiana incident
The insanity, the mass self mutilation
The general flu like symptoms on top of that
Ahhhhh so that is basically what caused everything
It was the start
Gotcha
Dont forget it was brought to louisianna by the sculptor
And we dont know where ground zero is?
The plague started, and the sculptor built off of it.
And its less of a plague
Hi Var'uun!
It’s more of an aff- Var ftw
Bot not quite either
lmao
Var’uun, new theory: Enterprise.
Fastest hands in the West lmao
Sculptor is here for alien matter, we’re here for alien energy
Q: What was/is “The Sundering”?
A: This is something we do not want to reveal yet. All I can say is that it’s integral to how the
entire Huntverse works
STOP
Is this what brought plague?
I
Personally
Believe its the first event
How do we defeat sonething weve never seen before?
Don’t need to, it’s never seen us
Q. What are we actually picking up from the bosses? We get it’s a token but what actually is it?
A: It’s a unique part of their body containing part of their soul.
Is this part of the Sculptor that we take? Is this why he is weakening over time
It could have been watching us for a while
No, not the source of the plague. The sundering is almost certainly what prompted the creation of Associations, and we know the AHA has existed under many names for hundreds of years.
Gotcha
Prowler earlier mentioned clues to Rome
But it’s believable
All good, most people take no interest
No keep asking 🙂
How do HUnters acquire the true deck cards
Haha oh you know I will
I want to get involved with this community a lot
especially in lore
That’s a great question with the True Deck. We know the AHA is using them as rewards. We don’t know where they come from.
Several hunters have written about the True Deck but we know very little about it.
What is the purpose of the duck easter egg in Port Reeker
Thanks Foxtrap for the explanations
Ah the ducks are the true form of the Sculptor.
((Joking))
It’s just an Easter egg.
Ahhh haha ok
Q: A disease or a curse
A: characteristics of each. The late 19th century was a period of cultural revolution, where
scientific replaced religious thinking. The closing of the western frontier obliterated oral folklores
and mythologies, but in turn imaginative thinking emerged again in the burgeoning genre of
science fiction. What’s affecting the bayou is an amalgamation of these anxieties
Is this where influences of voudou come into play with lore
Also
Maybe. Hoodoo in Louisiana was pretty big around this era, but the majority of Hunt’s “magic” and lore seems to indicate Haitian Vodou has some mystic properties.
Q: What is the point of the entities to spread the affliction? do they have a reason they came
here?
A: Hunger ... we'll hopefully have a chance to go more into this, but can't make any promises
Do they farm our world for something
Gtg for a bit
Ill be back though!
Getting off work now
Again, alien matter
Banishment
Takes mass from our world into theirs
Takes energy from their world into ours
The bargain
Could be they’re feeding on the life essence of their victims (blood sacrifice is symbolic of life force being given to loa in rituals), but we can hardly speculate more than some greedy hunger. There’s a lovecraftian mystery to the spirits, inter dimensional beings, or aliens. Unless there’s some updated lore I’m not privy to, I don’t think we fully understand and I don’t think we really ever should to maintain the supernatural spirit of the material.
I’ve been away since 1.0 started testing so I’m still getting caught up on all the new stuff.
@late tinsel im confused. Did you agree with me or disagree?
Oh never mind
But yes i believe the sundering (literal definition is to break apart) is what caused associations to take place, to take charge and defeat the evils before it consumed our world
I think it’s the inverse, this is a reality that INITIALLY looked into ours in search of soul essence, and spiritual energy, but there’s a greater prize to be had. The loa are spirits, some sort of unexplained energy. But we’re the opposite. We’re a bunch of meat puppets that may or may not even have a soul. We pursue material gains: food, water, weapons, capital. We utilize those things to grow and maintain our bodies and minds. A living being that “hungers” but is a spirit cannot consume in the traditional sense. They seek energy, hence the blood sacrifices and all that Jazz. The hunters figured it out first though, the matter of that other reality is unmanipulated. Just as the energy of ours in the 1890’s is bare and yet to be contained or improved in any particular manner but telegraph, lighting, and some machinery. But the MATTER is incredible. The most complex machine in the world is the mammals that reside within it. That’s what the entities are after, matter, a scarce resource for them but a more than abundant one in ours. What they DO have is refined energy, and they use it to manipulate our reality. Sculptor is reviving bosses using corpses within our reality. Butcher is pigs and cattle, spider is multiple human bodies, Assassin in is innumerable insects and a human body. Sculptor wants this matter for himself in his own reality, so he gets the hunters to banish them by planting the bounties. Hunters use energy to further themselves, entities use matter. @sinful trout
Wall of text I know
@sinful trout For sure. The 1800s-1900s was a clash of old-meets-new. We had ideologies that were around for hundreds of years suddenly being called into question, along with a revolution in science and study. All signs, including the creation of the various hunter associations, seems to indicate the sundering took place hundreds of years ago.
@junior pecan you think sculptor is working WITH hunters?
@late tinsel i 100% agree
@junior pecan that’s an interesting theory, but I’ve my doubts the Sculptor would go through all that trouble for a matter heist.
“Yooo gimme that biomass!”
@sinful trout He doesn’t need to, they’re predictable. He needs only regenerate the bosses and his other forces and they’ll be banished, the energy he invested in the bosses is taken by the hunters, and the biomass he manipulated to make them is banished to his dimension
@late tinsel the hunters are doing it for an energy heist, who’s to say the spirits of pure energy won’t do the same for matter
And it’s SOO MUCH how many bosses did we banish in that one week community challenge?
Sure, not canon,, but representative none the less
That’d be an interesting twist, but considering we’ve been to the other side, that means there’s a tangible existence of some kind for the loa on their side. You also have to consider they’re keeping the souls or minds of the people they warp intact to some degree. I don’t think it’s quite that simple, but your idea is certainly something I hadn’t considered before and therefore refreshing to read.
Also also
Reinforcing a tangible existence of the loa is the boss token. Energy or no, there’s a remnant of them we can pick up and carry with us to some degree. Same for the Wellspring.
Are they demons? Are they from another dimension? Hell, why not both? What is hell but just another place? That’s about the logic I see Hunt functioning on, so it’s hard to say what we concretely know, given some authors might not be reliable.
I think it still could be. Just as Loa can exist in our reality, replacing the souls of the dead via possession, we are likely capable of existing in theirs, mass has gravity, if that carries over to their reality, then there’s still space for us
Breathing would be an issue though. Can a spirit exist in the void of space? Mammals sure can’t
Perhaps the rifts leak more than entities and life, energy from theirs pours into ours, while matter from ours pours into theirs. Quite valuable, but temporary. Like a gold meteor
I'm back.
Maybe so. I had theorized before the loa need to inhabit bodies to chill in our world, but who knows? Atm everything on that spectrum is speculation and I try to avoid doing that too much.
A really interesting question is if the loa are in fact spirits, why haven’t they just left the area and spooked elsewhere? Are they tied to the rifts? Why don’t they spread from the dead zone?
After the sundering, certain parties began utilizing the stable portals. Lynch and the third party mentioned in bomblance, responsible for Fin’s possession
Possession seems beyond human capabilities
Ooooh interesting. I’ll give that a read.
So, can I get a summarization?
Lynch has yet to use it, her methods seem very material for a ritual
Salt for the magic circle, blood for the blood god etc
But no projection of spirit, no magic hands
So rituals?
Wait are those literally named as components in the new entries? Something Lynch uses?
Ah, so mirroring of worlds?
Magic circles, she uses them to contain spiritual energy, entrapping djinn and keeping human souls from passing
Inverses, but out of coincidence, I’m not saying there’s an entity name ffuh senoj
So, sculptor A) Needs energy to destroy our dimension
Or B) To gain energy because he is constantly weakening.
@shut mountain The idea reminds me of Fable
@wooden hound don’t think of him as an evil spirit, he’s a living being, he has a hierarchy of needs like us. Security, food, water, but not those things, only equivalents
He uses our reality to gain strength, just as hunters use the bounties to get paid
The only problem I have with B is that the Sculptor or some other force was powerful enough to allow the rifts to form. So I doubt it needs something from our world, but there’s something it WANTS.
Hunger
Ye
It has an opportunity, it has seized upon it
@junior pecan Hence, destroy our world.
Maybe it’s not matter, maybe it’s something more particular
so would the other realm or other side (assuming it was something that could be accessed) would it be something that is accessed as information (psychics), or can physically be stepped into?
Both.
Destroying a reality serves no purpose, why not harvest it? Why not let it grow? And return to reap the spoils
@neat mica As far as we know, it IS accessible, but it's not exactly a good thing though.
Evil doesn’t exist in hunt, only motivation and action
People and entities have agendas they pursue
@neat mica There are those who can see into the arteries between worlds and those who have gone to the other side.
No one seeks the worst outcome, nor the best
Destroy our world, not reality itself, bit instead the population, the sculptor's creations are here for hunger and constantly feasting as they constantly rise.
RIP whoever Simon was. Still not sure if he was one of the folks that crossed over but that’s my guess.
I believe he did.
He lies in the 8th circle yeah?
What purpose do soulless zombies have for a spiritual entity? And he has no chance, his influence is limited, he is destined to fail when the rift collapses
I think he began his descent to the 8th "circle"
You know the other side is bad when they use terms relating to circles of hell.
What would we call the other world?
He has no reach beyond Louisiana, and his methods are strange, he doesn’t know how to kill man just as man doesn’t know how to kill him. He lets the feral side of man do the killing, he doesn’t quite understand it
Hhhhhhhell
Well, it's explained by religion but isn't religion, so circles aren't genuine circles, hence the quotes.
Also @junior pecan even lesser spirits can control the dead like meat puppets in Vodou.
Valence?
We are talking about energy. And levels? And circles? Lotta coincidence
Yeah I know. Just sticking with the using religion to explain the unknown theme @wooden hound
Still, obviously pretty bad.
dabs aggressively in orange justice
Am I bad at lore?
No. It’s not complete so none of us are good at it.
So the premise of Gantz is that hero’s are selected (who have previously died) to fight aliens. Turns out they’re just another civilization. And while we believe they’re the bad guys, we invade their world and do the same and kill their civilians on their world. Turns out to be that we travel between rifts to kill aliens who are killing us for killing them. And the whole time they came over for resources
Oh I getcha.
I can see the resemblance
But I’m pretty sure the loa are mostly trying to just eat our asses.
Not in the good way though.
Spiritual asses
Yeah.
See, misinterpretation of events likely leads to wars, and the sculptor possibly came for that but but he also brought the affliction.
This just reminded me of it
He did bring the affliction.
Well lemme put it this way.
-other place is bad
-Sculptor makes super bad dudes
-affliction
-hunger
-meat puppets
If this is a cultural misunderstanding
Hoooooo boooooy
Haha, meat puppets
Coulda been an accident, inexperienced loa shoved into our reality entirely, has complete access to the souls of the entire state of Louisiana, probably gonna fuck up and kill people
Well, if this is the case, sculptor obviously isn't the brightest.
“Sorry fam, I’m new to this whole spirit thing. Mind if I.... DEVASTATE AN ENTIRE WORLD?”
Unless..?
Any known Loa who manipulate biomass? And low level insanity?
🤔🤔🤔
Has no physical form correct?
But are mostly invited to posses peeps.
He seems adept at manipulation of biomass, but incapable of advanced creations
possess
No creativity
And I don’t think sculptor has possessed anyone yet
Only driven people to primal insanity
Okay ya got me on grammar there. There are very few loa posses.
Seems immensely capable of manipulating slugs though
Take what back?
Some don’t go anywhere without another
Possible explanation to the other loan?
Possibly
Society in my eyes, social circles
DAMN YOU AUTOCORRECT
And yes I agree safer in numbers.
That’s why you go trio and never solo
Maybe the sculptor has an ally?
What if.. loa.. lived in a society?
They possibly work together to work on creations.
Sculptor has always been referenced in the texts as singular. Could be unreliable authors. Ask a lore dev that, they’d probably answer
There’s a theory. We only know of one man’s reference and the devs have hinted that might not be the full story there.
Germany
oof
@junior pecan @late tinsel @wintry panther
Que
Lore
Say it
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Hahahaha


So, do you think the sculptor has an ally?
I think he has to, and it might be someone on our side or someone high up in AHA
Hmm... Like..?
don’t think he could be this free to do what he wants on his own without someone giving him tips
I’m thinking Huff
Who originally had good intentions but might have become warped in grievance
Made a deal with the devil
Feel like you cats are antagonizing huff for no reason
Where are the good articles on Huff
Hey, he suggested it, I'm not antagonizing anything.
He just seems central
They’re in business
So, there were past sculptors
It’s their job to kill these things
"This One"
“Possessor of 92”
So why would you want people to stop business
Don’t remember that one?
the AHA is like, the worst association of anything lol
You can always create a steady supply if there is demand
They do their job, sort of
And who better to do both
Not true
I think Wild West level structure
They do their job, but not great.
How do you supply otherworldly entities
So we just gonna ignore my suggestion.
It’s out of your control
send out 10 people to do a job, only ~20% come back, every time
Yes there were past entities murican, no they weren’t sculptors
Not true flying, they used to not kill each other
Got greedy, it’s their doing
i'm not too serious, it's gameplay
Lodgers literally came to hunt hunters, and people wanted the bounty for themselves
Homino homini lupus ect
Ah, well what is the sundering?
Not AHA
It's probably going to majorly effect the lore.
It’s probably important
Excuse me. Late, but I will not tolerate slandering of the prestigious Dr. Huff Jones.
i'd love to see sequels to Hunt that take place during historical plagues/outbreaks
Shut it fox, you're too late.
Sounds like you wanna be retired
Another reason to support the enterprise theory. Sculptor is making waves in his reality. He’s gonna be loaded, just like the hunters
Convalescent home with her
*yee
Huff runs an asylum, don’t you guys know Asylums are never good signs in games
I’ve played outlast enough to know
Only info we have on asylum is the attempted curing of William salter
Who then broke out and uncured himself
So, hunters possibly go insane from what they see, is an asylum THAT suspicious?
They get hella sick is what happens
Salter’s wife got a spiritual std, killed her and made the first meathead, Walter was ‘exposed’ to that same disease
Thought it killed the entire room.
Nah they bolted for their winny’s and when they got back the 4 foot meathead baby had bolted
Just took off into the night, leeches and all
Holy shit that's a massive newborn.
Elwood Finch got moved tothe asylum too though after getting snoopy
After that, sculptor started duplicating meatheads, and now they’re everywhere
And yeah, the mom died in birth
Pretty sure it was salter’s wife. Could be wrong
Check monstorvum: meathead
I did.
New inoculation sterilizes recipients for that reason.
Pretty sure Finch was just put to work at the asylum with a new project.
It is, but it’s also a little dated. And I’m not too sure.
No more spirit STD's
True
We should increase awareness to Spirit STD's, everyone should have ribbons
Athletes should wear different jerseys
Have a whole month for awareness
Well

