#lore-discussion

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covert venture
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oh lol its a women? okay 😄

sinful trout
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so are jos and fin mcgowan

wooden hound
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Is there a way we can thank our lords (Devs) for the AMAZING lore?

junior pecan
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@covert venture Lynch was a wild child who somehow got her hands on a true deck (deck of legitimate tarots traded by hunters, used to predict future). She does anything the cards tell her, as they help prevent her death.

rotund ferry
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something I find really interesting is how the 60 minute time limit in Bounty is canon, as evidenced in the monstorium entries for the Armored

junior pecan
raw gust
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same image

junior pecan
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F o o k

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Will upload l8r, ty for reminder

viscid briar
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is there a place i can see what masteries you guys are missing so i can give what i have?

sinful trout
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@rotund ferry take a look at water devil entry

sinful trout
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@viscid briar dm me

rotund ferry
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I've read them all - I'm not seeing anything in the water devil entry about round times?

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There's a brief mention of double bounties but that seems more in reference to having eliminated competition as well as looting weapons, rather than a double bounty as we may know it

spark portal
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does anybody know if they implemented a critical system or something like that?
pistol 1shots without a headshot is something new for me.

forest condor
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@rotund ferry it talks about only being able to stay in "dead zones" for an hour

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Also I think it's Meathead lore

shrewd pumice
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it ended in the 1860s i believe could be wrong tho

amber harbor
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it started in 1895

junior pecan
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@spark portal this is the lore tab dog.

sinful trout
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@forest condor @rotund ferry armored lore references only being able to stay in deadzone for an hour
Water devil says (theyve been walking for hours)

rotund ferry
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I assumed walking for hours would include them travelling towards the dead zone

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because evidently it only covers a 1km square

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our hunters travel by cart or steamboat but theoretically you could still walk it

forest condor
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I think the walk is away from the deadzone with a bounty

amber harbor
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@sinful trout that pax 2/3?

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Two of arrows meaning in tarot:

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The crossed pair of golden Arrows represents a well-matched and balanced set of energies, equal and equitable partners. They are united by an infinite loop, but not bound or restricted by its circles. This card indicates a new partnership of great potential: in business, travel or industry. The stars between the Arrows are the source of its inspiration, and the seedlings on either side of the cross symbolize the fruits of such a partnership.

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Reversed = Fiery,competitive energy

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just putting this out there

sinful trout
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No its lebel

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4/4

amber harbor
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The 2 of arrows is part of the minor arcana(the lesser tarot cards) and it comes from spain/italy

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@sinful trout did you post here the other lebel masteries?

sinful trout
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We only have 4/4

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I believe its marksmen? (Or talon)

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Also need i note we only need conversion 1/4 now

wooden hound
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The hermit.

sinful trout
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Yes

wooden hound
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He lives

sinful trout
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Speak

wooden hound
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I'm in awe at being able to finally talk about lore again tho.

sinful trout
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Why were you unable?

wooden hound
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Phone was stolen.

sinful trout
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Unfortunate

wooden hound
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True.

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Well, anything to catch me up on?

sinful trout
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Basic theories

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Couple lore entries

wooden hound
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Ah, any new NPC's?

sinful trout
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None, my child

wooden hound
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FeelsBadMan

junior pecan
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@wooden hound are you aware of the possession yet? Someone other than Lynch is using advanced voodoo, could be an entity

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Can repost it if you’d like

wooden hound
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Yes, I'd like a repost, please.

junior pecan
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Got it, gimme a few minutes.

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all reposts

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Lynch's surprise in bomblance2/2 indicates it was not her doing. I suspect the individual mentioned in "Empty Cairn" legendary skin

wooden hound
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Interesting, sculptor possibly?

junior pecan
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Unlikely, it seems allied with AHA in its speech

wooden hound
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Any stamps? Sentence?

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Stamps as In sentences

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What makes it seem like the AHA is connected, the ritual?

junior pecan
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"Do not award your allegiance so easily. You do not know her, and you do not belong to her. You belong to eachother. Your allegiance is yours to give or take. Your second initiation begins today, and ends when you find me again."

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Second initiation references the inoculation, probably

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Twins have to be inoculated to have been in the deadzone

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Whether it speaks to Fin or Jos I don't know

wooden hound
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What snake demon can cause possession?

junior pecan
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Snake was likely just a manifestation

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Either it was the work of a man (or woman), or the work of an otherworldly entity

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Odds of snakes in alternate dimensions seems slim

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Seems to be little congruence between our side and that of the clues

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just pain

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and mentions of ash

wooden hound
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Ash?

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Where is the deadzlne?

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Zone*

junior pecan
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Can't remember where, but theres a doc on the official website from an AHA member describing the world through the clues, peering into the other reality to find the bosses.

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I'm referring to that other reality

wooden hound
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Maybe the dead zone is in the other world?

junior pecan
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The issue with this is that someone was working against Lynch. And Lynch runs the voodoo side of shit. Marie Laveau works for her, so shes likely connected with Voodoo doctor too.

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Dead zone is the reach of the unstable portal within Louisiana

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Wherever the sculptor's influence reaches, is the dead zone. With the exception of Assassin, who I personally suspect to be a contractor of sorts

wooden hound
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Well after the beefrat and Harpo theory kinda feels like a traitor, and the possession would work as well.

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Then again, beefrat and Harpo were exceptionally bad hunters

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@junior pecan

amber harbor
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snakes might be a representation of some voudou spirit

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@late tinsel

late tinsel
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My name has been invoked

amber harbor
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you're the voudou expert, right?

late tinsel
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Expert’s a strong word but I did some work for scholastic research on the subject that ended up actually being relevant in the lore research here, ye.

amber harbor
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did you come across any snake loas?

late tinsel
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Snakes are extremely important in voudou. I’ll have to type in just a bit.

junior pecan
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Ogun is mentioned, though waved away

late tinsel
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On the road atm.

junior pecan
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something about a god of chance

late tinsel
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There are tons of spirits mentioned in the lore, veves referenced on items, etc.

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Snakes are heavily associated with Damballah, particularly in Haiti, where most of the Huntverse lore seems to draw inspiration. This is his veve.

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He’s supposedly the creator of all life and all that Jazz.

amber harbor
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but are gods able to create animals / control them?

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or make you see things

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like visions

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as far as I know they can only posess ppl

junior pecan
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@late tinsel Anything about canebrake snakes in particular?

wintry panther
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Hey guys, just wanted to say I love the setting and think its so unique. Been reading up on the lore on the Hunt wiki and realized there is a ton of info missing on locations and stuff. Will that slowly be introduced?

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I want to know more about the organization and stuff described in many social media posts over the last couple years and was wondering if they had any plans to expand on that in the short term

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@sinful trout Thanks for putting together the whole Monstorvum

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What language is written all over the walls and texts btw that seem to be more rune-ish

sinful trout
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@wintry panther it was a team effort. And voynich

late tinsel
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@amber harbor Depends on the Loa and how powerful the specific one we’re talking about is. Yes, there are Loa capable of creation, and allowing possession is actually heavily encouraged in some circles. There are practitioners who believe there are Loa powerful enough to possess dead bodies and use them as their vessels.

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@junior pecan not that I found during my research. It never seemed any one snake was revered over another, but I haven’t dug deep enough to know for certain.

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Also, @wintry panther, it’s always nice to see folks interested in the Huntverse lore scene! If you have any questions, you might be surprised at how much some of the veterans around here actually have managed to piece together! Never be afraid to ask anything.

wintry panther
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@late tinsel Thanks! I am actually super super interested into diving more into it and was sad it wasn't completed yet

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I have a couple questions: one: what drove the zombies and everything to appear? two: how extensive of a network is the hunters, like is there actually an organization or is it more rogue than that? three: are the bosses formed from hunters who fall prey to the rifts and mutate (that was my impression from one of the stories)? four: what are the largest influences on the culture of this game, seems like a mix of voodoo and was wondering what the foundations of the zombies and bosses and hunters are?

wooden hound
wintry panther
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Is there a place to see what the overall story timeline is up to this point or what we know?

sinful trout
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guardini?

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guardini just likes hunting people

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aha is aware of the kilings in the orginization

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they just want their bounty

wooden hound
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@sinful trout didn't mean to add him.

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Lol

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@wintry panther check the pinned messages.

amber harbor
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theres no timeline in the lore doc

amber harbor
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@wintry panther
1: an entity called the sculptor came to our realm and started slowly making residents go mad in an area of effect, called the dead zone. There were some that were immune or died before being turned. I'm not sure but I think grunts come from dead people. Each enemy class has a role to fulfill (more in the BoM).
2:The AHA is more rogue, they only exchange money for bounty and initiate hunters. There are multiple chapters of the AHA, but the actual hunters are in for their own reasons, htey only get paid for bounty. Anything else doesn't concern the AHA.
3:Bosses are formed from people before hunters get there. They respawn after death , as each has a role to fulfill in the sculptor's army(BoM for more).Spider is like 7 ppl who were buried in a mass grave, Butcher was a taxidermed meathead come to life somehow(dont mention it to Var), and the assassin was a guy named Vincent who apparently was able to roam non infested areas.
4:Most influence is voudou and Lovecraft.

forest condor
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Spider was 13 iirc

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Whigc makes it more spooky

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Also according to the trials of Dr Reed it seems you don't have to die to become a grunt

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Seeing as he defended into madness without dyinf

sinful trout
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Wjat makes you think theres a traitor?

amber harbor
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@forest condor but we dont know he became a grunt for sure

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just chopped up his party

rotund ferry
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The German letter mentions a dragon, that's probably a metaphor yeah?

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Be interesting otherwise lol

devout cedar
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Finished all Pax and Pax Claw masteries, do we still need them? HUL

forest condor
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@amber harbor oh no we do

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Check the image at the end

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If you enhance the contrast you see a grunt

amber harbor
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E N H A N C E

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@devout cedar I think we still need pax 2/3

devout cedar
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okay

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i have it HUL

sinful trout
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@devout cedar SEND

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DM ME BABE

earnest jungle
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I've said it once I'll say it again there is only one god in Hatian Vodou and that is Bondye. Loa are not gods to be worshiped, but spirits to be honored and served but not worshiped. They intermediaries for Bondye. Sort of like saints or angels.

wintry panther
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@amber harbor Thank you so much ily

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That helps so much! Just that right there puts everything into perspective

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@wooden hound Thanks for the @ ill look over that doc asap

viscid briar
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@devout cedar i slogged through the nagants last night, i still got one left

wintry panther
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I just realized something isnt the Butcher Peter Roche

devout cedar
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Do we have mosin?

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Normal one?

wintry panther
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"It is unknown how the Young Roche lived out the final days of his life. For the next twenty years he got by as best he could. He was regarded as a dangerous recluse, absorbed in his own gluttony and paranoia, eager to carve up whatever he could get his hands on…" = "As I walked the grounds, I came across an enormous carcass, over six feet tall, and at least 350 pounds. Its flesh was soft, mealy, and pale, and at its shoulder a well of leeches, now dead but clearly not an addition to, but a part of the body. " & "While exploring the other rooms, I have found evidence that someone with a similar, if more gruesome, passion dwelled here once. I hope I do not meet him, though as I said, this place appears to have been empty for some time"

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Peter Roche (son to inherit the slaughterhouse) went mad and loved to eat large and cut up things, then the taxidermist takes over the place later (as said in the Butcher lore) and finds the remnants of Peter Roche and makes it into his own creation

amber harbor
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he taxidermed the meathead

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and put a pig head on it bc it didint feel complete

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the butcher is a mystery bc hes the only thing not made from actual fless

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its just wood and clay that somehow camne to life and now bleeds blood

wintry panther
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Ahhhh OK

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That is even darker than a dead owner come to life

amber harbor
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except it doesnt make sense

wintry panther
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Well yeah.... idk if Vodou talks about it but maybe the concentration of death is a cause?

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Could we add some tabs to the Hunt Showdown Lore doc about location history?

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I know the wiki has a couple available

amber harbor
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I think most location history stuff is on the official website

wintry panther
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True, then maybe just that

devout cedar
wintry panther
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Just a question because I am curious: What is currently unclear in the lore that you guys would want them to dive more into?

weary heron
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how the fuck everything started

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thats a good one

sinful trout
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@wintry panther did

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Did you just

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DID YOU FUCKING SAY THAT TAXADERMIED MEATHEAD WAS DARK?!?

wooden hound
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Lol

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Romero hatchets back story is nutty.

wintry panther
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@sinful trout well...... darker than just a fat dude getting resurrected with a pig head

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0_0

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@wooden hound What is it?

wooden hound
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@wintry panther what do you mean?

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Ohhh, nvm

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Dude has a hunting partner, breaks his partners hatchet an makes an improvised weapon, get spotted, shotgun blasts one dude, finishes the other with the hatchet end. @wooden hound

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@wooden hound

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@wintry panther

wintry panther
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0_0

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definitely not my experience using it.....

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Must have prestiged a couple times before he got to that level

wooden hound
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Yea... Damn prestige 15's...

wintry panther
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You hit them in the arm with a shotgun and they adad up to you with the ax ready.... gets me every time

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Could anyone explain to me the setting of Louisiana during this time, I know there are mentions of a couple wars. I can only think of the War of 1812 and Civil War but dont know if there are more territorial ones here. Additionally, as a touch up during the Civil War how far south did the North end up going?

wooden hound
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Search it.

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Ernest spleger drank a strange liquid then suddenly turns to stone, is the liquid known, or otherworldly

viscid briar
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Sheriff Hardin is a dickhead

wooden hound
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ok

viscid briar
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nono i mean, i unlocked most of the nagant pages last night

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and they talk a little about him

wooden hound
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ok

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Jk

viscid briar
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b o i

wooden hound
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I need loreeeeee

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Xbox hunt has no loreeee

fathom badge
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Its 1898 or somethin around there i believe @wintry panther

wooden hound
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1895

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That's the exact year.

wintry panther
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So in case you were wondering about Louisiana's civil war history.... "Before the Civil War, Louisiana was a major slave state. In 1860, 47% of the population was in slavery. However Louisiana also had one of the largest free black populations in the United States.

On January 26, 1861, Louisiana seceded from the United States. However sections of the state were strongly Union, so the U.S. Congress made those parts a state and allowed it to have a governor and U.S. Congressmen. Louisiana formed 265 military units for the Confederacy and 23 for the Union" So turns out Louisiana was split into two states briefly and one was Union and One was Confederate. The Union part mainly being the little point off the South East section.

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Much of the white population, particularly in the cities, supported southern states' rights and slavery, while pockets of support for the U.S. and its government existed in the more rural areas.

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New Orleans, the largest city in the South, was strategically important as a port city due to its southernmost location on the Mississippi River and its access to the Gulf of Mexico. The U.S. War Department early on planned for its capture. The city was taken by U.S. Army forces on April 25, 1862. Because a large part of the population had Union sympathies (or compatible commercial interests), the U.S. government took the unusual step of designating the areas of Louisiana then under U.S. control as a state within the Union, with its own elected representatives to the U.S. Congress. For the latter part of the war, both the U.S. and the Confederacy recognized their own distinct Louisiana governors.

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Lousiana was actually a lot more central to the Civil War than I thought... the Mississippi River being central to the Union's plan for victory

sinful trout
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@wintry panther BUTCHER LORE IS COMPLETELY SILLY

wooden hound
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Yea, it's unreliability can spread a lot of misinformation.

sinful trout
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HOW DARE YOU

wintry panther
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I genuinely thought it was Peter Roche's body until you guys cleared it up

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Its seems to try and steer you in that direction

wooden hound
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Idiot

wintry panther
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T_T

wooden hound
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:')

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Jk

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Var'uun, what is the strange liquid Spelger drank?

sinful trout
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I AM ANGERED

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Also

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Didnt you read?

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It was liquid inside a geode

wooden hound
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ok sorry i bothered you

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Geode?

sinful trout
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Duh

wooden hound
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oof I'm kinda dense, plus I skimmed a little

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But liquid inside a geode.

sinful trout
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Youre asking the wrong question @wooden hound

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What deranged fuck sees a rock, opens it, sees a liquid and goes "ooh yummy"

dense nova
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Spelger does.

wooden hound
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True.

dense nova
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Apparently.

sinful trout
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Ernest spleger ladies and gents

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Absolute fucking unit

dense nova
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The legend of the mad lad.

sinful trout
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cave johnson intensifies

wooden hound
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Lol, but a liquid with the effects of petrification, seems interesting.

sinful trout
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Perhaps

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Think of it this way

wooden hound
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Are there otherworldly minerals

sinful trout
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Maybe its a geode containing larvae?

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As we know the armoureds chitin is made from beetles

wooden hound
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Larvae that cause petrification..?

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Well, most everything is sort of bug/insect related.

sinful trout
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Perhaps the beetles did the preserving

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maintaining their host

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Yeah

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Lore father doesnt fit me

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Theory hermit does

dense nova
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Why can't you be lore hermit?

wooden hound
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Yea, change it back ***B. O. I. ***

wintry panther
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Ok so reading more into Louisiana state history, As part of the Compromise of 1877, under which Southern Democrats acknowledged Republican Rutherford B. Hayes as president, there was the understanding that the Republicans would meet certain demands. One affecting Louisiana was the removal of all U.S. military forces from the former Confederate states. At the time, U.S. troops remained in only Louisiana, South Carolina, and Florida, but the Compromise saw their complete withdrawal from the region.

And around this time is Plessy v. Ferguson- a huge trial about black rights. For those not American, In short, the ruling was segregation did not in itself constitute unlawful discrimination. Plessy v. Ferguson was a landmark 1896 U.S. Supreme Court decision that upheld the constitutionality of racial segregation under the “separate but equal” doctrine. The case stemmed from an 1892 incident in which African-American train passenger Homer Plessy refused to sit in a car for blacks.

wooden hound
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1896 hasn't happened yet

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@sinful trout my boi hermit is back

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Uh.., var'uun?

sinful trout
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Speak child

wooden hound
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So the armored's armornis beetles?

sinful trout
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Have you read the armored entry?

wintry panther
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Well then the court would still be deciding on this but it would have been brought to the attention

wooden hound
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A while back

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Mainlynfocus on one at a time.

sinful trout
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Read again

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Every time i read

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A new form of clarity arises

wintry panther
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Dude Louisiana was lit in the 1890s

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1891 Mar 14, A mob in New Orleans broke open a jail after a court dismissed charges against 19 Italian men indicted for the murder of police chief David C. Hemmessey. 11 of 19 defendants were hanged. The book "Vendetta" by Richard Gambino, and the movie of the same name, covered the event.

wooden hound
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Wishing scognamilio weren't DEAD!

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Otherworldly minerals would be great for more weapons.

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@wintry panther

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Let's talk about lore

wintry panther
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@wooden hound Im all about it

wooden hound
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So, what do you think about the lore so far, other than the butcher.

wintry panther
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I need to read up on all the articles and newpaper clippings from in game though.... I havent read through the Monstorum yet

wooden hound
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There's a PDF drive/file pinned.

wintry panther
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Honestly I want to learn more about the world and I think that the locations give some super cool insight into the world

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Yeah Im at work rn so slowly going through it

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Just cant completely focus on it

wooden hound
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OK,

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.

wintry panther
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I want to spark notes it all into like a small chapter for each so that anyone can get the ghist

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paragrpah*

wooden hound
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Paragrpah.

wintry panther
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@wooden hound I have a question though, so i forget where but there was an article about the fact that the number of zombies is increasing and never stopping (I think it was from hayward H)

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Do we know why it is ever growing even with all the hunters

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And how do souls get damned

wooden hound
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Probably like the hive, copies being rebuilt and duplicated.

wintry panther
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So what is the end game of the hunters then.... or the AHA.... or is there no overall goal other than damage mitigation

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Because they say they have been around forever but the containment doesnt seem to be working

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So is this a problem across America?

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In little pockets/

wooden hound
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It's like hunting game.

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But they also try to keep it from spiraling downward.

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@wintry panther

wintry panther
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Ahhh gotcha

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ty

wintry panther
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@wooden hound I have a question for you

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Do you think that there is biblical background to the infection?

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Im reading through the immolator lore rn and seems like they believe so

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And do you think that there is any significance to there being two clues in some locations versus others

amber harbor
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religion doesnt have any corelation

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some get it right

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some more than others

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especially voudou

wintry panther
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Why do you think voudou is closer than others?

amber harbor
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the whole voudou loa thing

wintry panther
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Var'uun, Theory Hermit has entered the chat

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Who is the voudou master in this group

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@amber harbor Is there a heavy creole influence in the game as well?

wooden hound
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@wintry panther I'll post a reason to the voodoo thing

wintry panther
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@sinful trout will there be another ama btw?

wooden hound
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Am a?

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Also

wintry panther
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like lore ask me anything

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QNA for reddit

wooden hound
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Ah, yea

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Can possess.

wintry panther
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@wooden hound Ahhhh that note explains so so much!

wooden hound
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Yea.

wintry panther
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So the term sculptor is a voodoo term?

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btw is it voodoo or voudou or vodou

wooden hound
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No, sculptors typically shape things, correct?

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And in the spider lore it was referred to as the sculptor.

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Had multiple names, Satan, devil, Beelzebub, etc. But sculptor fits his ability best.

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@wintry panther its anything really SD long ad its understood

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As

amber harbor
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voudou is the original name , voodoo is simplified afaik

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also there is a creole influence

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the haitian creole is the secret language hunters use

wooden hound
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Also, has this event happened before?

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@amber harbor

wintry panther
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Gotcha, so would that explain why the problem persists in Louisiana alone?

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Or is there mention anywhere of it beyond the state or of AHA

viscid briar
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I'm pretty sure there are mentions of AHA like associations in other parts of the world

wintry panther
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It seems like the hunters dont care about stopping the sculptor since it is a source of revenue for them

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Is this only some of them? or a common viewpoint

wooden hound
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They use it and keep it maintained.

wintry panther
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Gotcha so it is regulated in a way we just dont know by who

wooden hound
wintry panther
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Gotcha

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Is there any qualifications to being a hunter?

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And also how does a soul become damned for quick play?

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Is that specified anywhere?

wooden hound
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@wintry panther OK, so a soul isn't exactly "damned," as far as I know, and so far you have to survive rituals to become a qualified hunter.

wintry panther
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@wooden hound I know that there are the letters that talk about how with each rift you go to you become more human and the affect it has

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I just dont know what the implications are exactly

amber harbor
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there have been many events

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varying in intensity and location

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there are a lot of aha like organisations all over the globe

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they mostly keep to their area, but nothing stops some hunters from going somewhere else

wintry panther
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Awesome thank you!

amber harbor
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sorry for the delayed responses I was in a match

wintry panther
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Nah no worries

wooden hound
amber harbor
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whats here about the dead zone?

wintry panther
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BTW do you think Elwood Finch was silenced because he started looking too deep into the source of the infections nad that is why he was sent to the Asylum

wooden hound
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Ah, sorry, just remembered that the info wasn't from the notes, but prowler.

amber harbor
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thats a possibility

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is finch the guy who recovered?

wintry panther
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He was the guy in charge of sending out hunters

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He had the hut that they would return to

wooden hound
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Doesn't the AHA watch and/or kill anyone who knows too much about the affliction?

amber harbor
#

its unknown

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imo the AHA is too decentralised to be sending assassins john wick style

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but they could just put a bounty on their head

wintry panther
#

This seems to imply that Huff though clearly has a lot more power than is being let on

wooden hound
#

Like the beefrat and Harpo theory?

wintry panther
#

And that the Asylum is up to some shady stuff

amber harbor
#

I think the problem kinda takes care of itself

wintry panther
#

I dont think there is coincidence that the superintendent of the Asylum is also in charge of the AHA

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true

amber harbor
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ppl who spill the beans get send to the asylum by friends and family

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right at Huff

wooden hound
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So, lynch had the ability to possess?

wintry panther
#

So the AHA is regulated by a whistleblower kind of mentality

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Thats intense

amber harbor
#

but thats just a theory

wooden hound
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Also, me, being as dense as humanly possible, doesn't know what IMO means.

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Is there any evidence

amber harbor
wooden hound
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cool

amber harbor
#

in my opinion

wintry panther
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lmao "a game theory"

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is this describing quick play or normal hunt

amber harbor
#

thats bounty hunt

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a guy who found all 3 spider clues

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I think its based on alpha clues, when you could see through the eyes of the boss when taking a clue

wooden hound
#

Seems like it's his first hunt.

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The way he describes it.

amber harbor
#

yeah

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theres these strange symbols on all photos

wintry panther
#

Gotcha ok sorry got a little confused by this

amber harbor
#

idk if they were translated

wintry panther
#

So no one has looked into those symbols yet?

wooden hound
#

Maybe we.could search Haitian creole, symbols.

wintry panther
wooden hound
#

Hold on.

wintry panther
#

ok

wintry panther
wooden hound
#

Damn it he beat me too it.

wintry panther
wooden hound
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Post all symbols

wintry panther
wintry panther
amber harbor
#

here are all cyphers that work, in cronological order

wintry panther
amber harbor
#

does anyone know what date these were posted?

wooden hound
#

Hold on.

wintry panther
#

I think there was one from each picture

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It was posted December 18, 2017

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So might be outdated

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"The following story was originally published on Twitter, day for day. The passing of time between each cipher is marked with two crosses."

amber harbor
#

oh

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then I think the first thing might be the only valid one

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but it doesnt mean shit

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just random letters

wooden hound
#

What letters

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Unscwamble

wintry panther
#

Lmao

wooden hound
#

Seizure much?

wintry panther
#

You know what

wooden hound
#

What

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Well ama. @wintry panther

wintry panther
#

Lmao

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XD

wooden hound
#

Soooo... No questions?

amber harbor
#

wot

wintry panther
#

Well I wanted to ask it says that these were from Twitter

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is there any lore on there not posted on the website

wooden hound
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Not that I know of, maybe even more lore on twitter

wintry panther
#

And do we know what the letters are

amber harbor
#

see up

wooden hound
#

Hello, steven.

amber harbor
#

haitian creole

sick vault
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It says "SIN" on the first picture, the others are a bit blurry, Im looking into it

wintry panther
wooden hound
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@wintry panther

wintry panther
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Thanks!

wooden hound
#

If you find it out, I'll unscramble.

wintry panther
#

This is a hard language to distinguish the breaks in the letters

wooden hound
#

Yea, if only var'uun were here.

wintry panther
#

Here they all are side by side

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@sinful trout

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@sick vault does this help?

wooden hound
#

You...

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You pinged var'uun?!?!?!?!

wintry panther
#

Should I not......

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Oh no......

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What have I done Murican...

wooden hound
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My dear god...

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Well, then again hell is released on earth.

wintry panther
#

He who talks with the Theory Hermit should look to it that he himself does not become a monster

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  • Nietzsche
wooden hound
#

Lol, is that real?

wintry panther
#

True story

wooden hound
#

Go online.

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Not offline.

wintry panther
#

Im green now bois

wooden hound
#

You got Xbox??

wintry panther
#

Nah PC

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T_T

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Im at work rn too lmao

wooden hound
#

Damn ittt

wintry panther
#

Im sorryyyy

wooden hound
#

I'm dead inside now
VuxMhat

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So, lore.

sick vault
#

it's strange

wooden hound
#

How so?

sick vault
#

only the first picture has a "real" word

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Jap Slaps picture in order is most likely "SIN SY? EANM NAN MAJI SY?N AN"

wooden hound
#

EANM-NAME?

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Probably outdated.

junior pecan
#

The possession in bomblance couldn’t have been Lynch as she arrived confused, we have either a new individual capable of high level vodou or we have the work of another entity, likely one from a stable rift looking to affect our reality

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Perhaps in conflict with sculptor

calm ingot
#

this is a sick channel good work to all you contributors ❤

wooden hound
#

Hmm...

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Yeah! It's amazing and fun.

wintry panther
#

@sick vault I cut them from the order they were posted so I am not sure

wooden hound
#

What forms of entity's do unstable portals bring?

junior pecan
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The entities are foreign, sure, but all life capable of making the intellectual decisions that sculptor has made (investing in specialized foot soldiers, reanimating bosses to spur competition between hunters) has to have conflict with its counterparts. And conflict always resembles, even in the most foreign reality.

wooden hound
#

I'd assume stable portals bring powerful entities.

junior pecan
#

Stable is the everyday vodou, while unstable causes incidents like sculptor

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Probably

wintry panther
#

So is the sculptor's role to bring about stability or balance?

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or is it a byproduct

junior pecan
#

Hunters are taking advantage of the situation in Louisiana to garner wealth. Sculptor is likely performing a mirrored action in his own reality

wooden hound
#

It says in the qna they're here for hunger, so maybe there are other entities planning the Sam, and unstable portal brought it? Far fetched, I know.

#

Same*

sick vault
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the long part on the 5th picture, MAJI and SY?N, MAJI and SYANS is "magic" and "science" in creole

wintry panther
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Oooh getting close

junior pecan
#

Living things always strive to gather wealth and security. Although sculptors influence has wained with time, I’d imagine he has no intention in surrendering Louisiana

wooden hound
#

Which is what they believe the monsters to be, correct? Some take a scientific approach like Scognamilio? Right?

junior pecan
#

The actions of AHA pose no direct threat to him, only to his assets

wintry panther
#

@junior pecan Question for you, this was talked about a little earlier but do you think Huff has a lot more power than is being let on. And that the Asylum is up to some shady stuff. I dont think there is coincidence that the superintendent of the Asylum is also in charge of the AHA

wooden hound
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Well, maybe he is politically powerful.

#

@wintry panther

wintry panther
#

True it could just be that

wooden hound
#

He could be using it as a cover up for some project, like studying the infected entities, like when Harold Black said he decided to stay and study monsters.

#

@wintry panther

junior pecan
#

@wintry panther Huff comes across to me as genuinely desperate to enable the hunters to better do their work. All of his correspondence with Victor Caldwell so far has been that of urgent request and seeming sincerity, up until his betrayal. This interest in arming the hunters, combined with a lack of interest in Harold Black and Scoggo’s work shows me that he does not seek to exploit the sculptor, but to be rid of it. He was at one point a very active hunter himself, and I’d imagine he holds genuine care for his brothers in arms despite their tendency to murder each other

#

On top of this, the man’s education implies that he already worked within the asylum, or in some similar field of study, prior to his promotion

wooden hound
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Or, it may just be a genuine asylum.

junior pecan
#

It doesn’t seem to be a thing he got from favors, but something he truly earned through merit

wintry panther
#

My question came from this

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Since Huff moves Elwood into the Asylum once he starts investigating why the number of infected has actually increased even with Hunter activity

junior pecan
#

There it is again, mention of gold, not hunt dollars or cash

sick vault
#

there isn't much more in the pictures. Sin and magic / science are clear, it says "into" on the picture with the hunter that looks "into" the clue and "in" on the last spider picture.

wintry panther
#

Another thing that interested me is how it seems that hunters just fall into wealth and it isnt something directly gianed "Though those who have survived to make hunting their career often seem to find themselves becoming quite wealthy, it appears that many are transients with no home or family to speak of or return to. "

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Often seems to find themselves

wooden hound
#

So, final question, does it have any value towards lore?

wintry panther
#

True gold is mentioned

junior pecan
#

I swear to god I remember hunt dollars being called gold

wooden hound
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@wintry panther After all, they risk their life for supernatural traits, and items.(?)

sick vault
#

looks like hints how people deal with the event, religion, science, magic, nothing new

wintry panther
#

Hmmm sorry for the random hunt for clues that was nothing @sick vault

wooden hound
#

Well, it was fun.

junior pecan
#

Perhaps perks are the work of Damballah/the theoretical third party

sick vault
#

voynich and creole are always fun

wooden hound
#

Yea, lore hunting is fun.

junior pecan
#

It did seem to be bargaining with fin McGowan

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Though why it sought to separate the twins I don’t know

wooden hound
#

Better than creole

wintry panther
#

Sin=We, the Hunters, blocked it out for too long. We saw the things hidden there, confined to arteries. Living in the pulse.

#

Magic, science=The world returned. The Faustian revelation, fresh, grinding within my mind. Another anomaly was calling, weak and far.

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Into=I reached into the wound. Tore it open. It engulfed me in billows of fiery heat. I was made to relive the death in its depths.

wooden hound
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Hol' up.

wintry panther
#

In=Too many elbows bent and fingers curled. Nails like claws, some torn out their bed. My face bloated, convulsing at my touch.

wooden hound
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What engulfed him.

junior pecan
#

Holy shit where did you find this

wintry panther
#

What I remember most? The smell: still lingering, burnt flesh and sulfur. Seeped into the earth, seeped into me. Then the pain.

++

I reached into the wound. Tore it open. It engulfed me in billows of fiery heat. I was made to relive the death in its depths.

#

This was posted a while ago Dec 18,2017

wooden hound
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@junior pecan its the hunt wiki.

wintry panther
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And on the official website

junior pecan
#

Never knew this was there

wintry panther
#

It had Creole words on the pics

#

So we were looking into it

junior pecan
#

Faustian revelation implies there have been anomalies before the time of Julius Ceaser, likely stable though

wintry panther
#

Seriously?!

junior pecan
#

Faust is a German folktale of a man selling his soul for infinite wisdom

wooden hound
#

Could explain the other powerful entity.

wintry panther
#

So could this describe damned hunters too maybe? Or how the hunters get their powers

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Or what they trade every time they look at a clue

wooden hound
#

Ash, maybe he is being burned?

junior pecan
#

Calling it a revelation makes it sound like “industrial revolution” as though it was a grand event in history, birth of vodou magic

wintry panther
#

@sick vault Could you confirm which word pairs with what posts?

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Sin=We, the Hunters, blocked it out for too long. We saw the things hidden there, confined to arteries. Living in the pulse.
Magic, science=The world returned. The Faustian revelation, fresh, grinding within my mind. Another anomaly was calling, weak and far.
Into=I reached into the wound. Tore it open. It engulfed me in billows of fiery heat. I was made to relive the death in its depths.

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In=Too many elbows bent and fingers curled. Nails like claws, some torn out their bed. My face bloated, convulsing at my touch.

junior pecan
#

I remember this, this one talks about opening clues.

wintry panther
#

Yeah this was about the pursuit of the spider just saw the words in the pics

junior pecan
#

These writings could be ancient.

wintry panther
#

Its creole

junior pecan
#

Though if it’s about spider it’s recent

wooden hound
#

Is the sculptor constantly weakening?

junior pecan
#

Whoever wrote this KNOWS things

wintry panther
#

When was the spiderreleased?

junior pecan
#

Some time near 95

#

Shortly after appearance of sculptor

#

Likely the first boss

wooden hound
#

Spider was built.

junior pecan
#

Built, then resurrected

#

Again, and again, and again

#

Sculptor saw opportunity. In spider, in butcher, and especially in assassin

#

So he reanimated them, to put the hunters against each other probably

#

@wooden hound sculptor HAS to be weakening, if their hungry then their reality must have some semblance of conservation of energy, therefore every action he takes is an investment. Every grunt that dies and is reanimated costs him.

wooden hound
#

That was why.

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"Knowing that he has little time."

junior pecan
#

Unstable rift will collapse eventually.

wooden hound
#

Keeping him trapped in this dimension?

wintry panther
#

So I have a question, what was the purpose of Coopers Casket journals

junior pecan
#

I wonder what caper he is planning. Judging by the nature of vodou his reality is one of wavering energy, while ours is one of energy imbued matter. How will he move matter back to his own? Oh

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Banishment

wintry panther
#

Well Revelations is all about Satan reigning for a period of time on Earth and then God coming with his army to take it back and create a New Earth

junior pecan
#

He’s made a deal

#

Every boss we banish goes back to that place, while the bosses are still of this world, he needs only reanimate corpses with his abundant energy, sacrificing some in the process to gain access to precious matter

#

Imagine having access to a foreign energy, something not of your own reality. God knows how useful it could be

wooden hound
#

Sculptor somehow feels like cthulu

#

Not suggesting he is

#

But, it is said cthulus true form would bring you out of your sanity.

junior pecan
#

No, Cthulhu is giant, something to fear due to his stature in our terms. Sculptor is alien, it holds power unimaginable to us, but it cannot kill directly

wooden hound
#

Read up.

junior pecan
#

It holds no power in our terms

wooden hound
#

Not

#

Suggesting

#

He

#

Is

junior pecan
#

I kno, just sayin, he’s so different

wooden hound
#

somehow

#

All powerful being from another dimension.

wintry panther
junior pecan
#

The concept of Cthulhu is about making man insignificant, but this is perhaps an unspoken agreement, empowering both parties, man and sculptor

wooden hound
#

Did Vincent make a deal with the sculptor?

wintry panther
#

Do you think that like contracts with devils typically go, where at first there is a hunger for power, and later consquences. that sculptor is allowing hunters to use dark vision and stuff to feed off them in the end?

junior pecan
#

Not a deal in that concept, but a set of events orchestrated by one entity that forces a trade both benefit from

wintry panther
#

Is there a contrary power to the Sculptor then?

junior pecan
#

Hunters get bullshit magical powers through energy imbued in the bounties, sculptor gets alien matter for some other purpose

wooden hound
#

@wintry panther They seem greedy, wanting wealth rather than banishing the sculptor.

wintry panther
#

Like a good power if Sculptor is the bad power

junior pecan
#

Damballah

#

See bomblance, it could be a man, but it sounds like an entity that works to counteract the sculptor, perhaps by influencing the tier 3 hunters, imbuing them with additional perks, in exchange for, something

wintry panther
#

is that where they get the tattoos from

junior pecan
#

They tattoo themselves out of superstition, but I’d be pretty superstitious if I was bargaining with an otherworldly power

#

Their skin infection, I suspect

wooden hound
#

Nothing is exactly too powerful, after all creatures from his dimension would probably also be powerful.

#

Maybe the entity is from his dimension

junior pecan
#

Precisely, they hold little power in our alien world, but just like us, they are masters of their own

wintry panther
#

Spooky shit

junior pecan
#

A mirrored conflict. Hunters killing and taking from hunters, entities sabotaging and stealing from entities

wooden hound
#

And a sculptor like there was one before, or had different abilities.

wintry panther
#

Q: Have both sides been closely increasing their strength in a balanced manner?
A: No…
Q: Is hierarchy of the enemy known? I.E. Lieutenants, Sculptors etc...
A: Depends on what you mean by “Enemy

junior pecan
#

Likely similar abilities, think vodou gods. Possession, biological manipulation, and literal sculpting of environments with certain materials

wintry panther
#

Just started reading through the lore qna

wooden hound
#

@wintry panther Maybe the sundering was a past visit from a sculptor.

wintry panther
#

So voudou suggests there has to be balance in nature right? or am i completley wrong

#

Does the Sculptor balance out Damballah

wooden hound
#

Not exactly, Damballah is a counterattacker.

wintry panther
#

Q: Were the hunters/humans/people ever able to go into sculptor/hell dimension?
A: Yes
How bad was it?
A: Pretty Bad

#

Wait so we can travel onto their side too?

junior pecan
#

Could be, but don’t think of it that way. This is another reality, with its own rules. Religion is a poor explanation, not a rule book. Think of them as people, just entirely different. Their motivations will be the same, that is a guarantee of all things that hunger.

#

We’ve likely been booted into their reality before, just as they’ve been booted into ours

wintry panther
#

OHHHHHHHHHHH so people in our reality are trying to use religion to explain these phenomenon when its more supernatural than that

#

All the letters then are through the lense of religion when that isnt the case

junior pecan
#

Yea, these are “living” things, they are after the same stuff we are, just in a different form. Power, security. Hierarchy of needs still applies, but it needs simplification due to their alien nature

wooden hound
#

@wintry panther The deadzone is also the source, which may allow the ability to enter the sculptor dimension.

junior pecan
#

Probably, I suspect clues are bridges

wintry panther
#

I mean I know that people gaze into the clues

junior pecan
#

Torn open and quickly falling asunder, an unstable rift

wintry panther
#

and its supposed to be gateways through right?

#

So this is more sci-fi than I thought

junior pecan
#

A porthole

#

Correction, a bullet hole

wintry panther
#

So is our (the games) world stuck in between a battle between these aliens

junior pecan
#

Nobody made those, they happened. Otherwise the entities would attempt something in Antarctica, work their way up from there

wintry panther
#

So Louisiana is just the battleground for these aliens then right?

junior pecan
#

Not a battle, an interaction, we are just as incomprehensible to them as they are to us

wintry panther
#

Gotcha

junior pecan
#

There will always be Damballah’s though

wintry panther
#

Q: Is this particular incident in 1895 important? It seems that there is a bit of research trying to
figure things out in regards to this particular event.
A: Yes… This is not an ordinary hunt. The results will be significant for the story

junior pecan
#

People who KNOW how to work with the other side, people like Lynch

wintry panther
#

But this is a pivotal one though righ?

junior pecan
#

Probably because sculptor is succeeding.

wooden hound
#

Like Vincent maybe?

junior pecan
#

Banishment was not a new concept, but revival of bosses was

wooden hound
#

So our hunters were familiar with banishment?

junior pecan
#

Yes, they came for the bounty initially, it was not a new concept, clues perhaps, though not likely

#

Then they realized the bounties were coming back, more money to be made

wooden hound
#

@junior pecan Hints toward what the sundering may be?

junior pecan
#

Not sure. No way to know, could have been the most recent rift, could have been the so called Faustian Revelation

wintry panther
#

Q: The giant hives around the area, is it some early form of evolution or just a mark left by the
sculptor? (Creatures that have connection to those hives are Armored and Hives)
A: Maybe your “sculptor” can sculpt more than bodies hm?
Is this why the Butcher was made from inanimate objects

wooden hound
#

The hives a mixed sculpture of animate, and inanimate.

junior pecan
#

Yes, sculptor has shown an ability to replicate matter, but not create original, with TWO exceptions. The armored’s husk, and the giant afflicted areas

wintry panther
#

Is sculptor one entity or a type of alien

junior pecan
#

Both seeming incredibly unnatural, carapace in nature is rounded, not jagged

wintry panther
#

Gotcha

junior pecan
#

Both I believe. Something without a body. Pure energy floating about in a reality with little to no mass.

wintry panther
#

So it is adapting potentially

#

Ahhh so sculptor is an entity and takes forms in different ways

junior pecan
#

It’s trying, but he’s inexperienced,

wooden hound
#

No, creating creatures as soldiers.

wintry panther
#

Like the trinity?

#

in Christianity?

junior pecan
#

He doesn’t create the creatures thoug

wintry panther
#

Its just different forms of one god?

junior pecan
#

Plague creates them, he replicated, down to the minutiae

wintry panther
#

What is Plague

#

(Sorry im new to the lore but interested to learn more)

junior pecan
#

The initial affect of the Louisiana incident

#

The insanity, the mass self mutilation

#

The general flu like symptoms on top of that

wintry panther
#

Ahhhhh so that is basically what caused everything

junior pecan
#

It was the start

wintry panther
#

Gotcha

sinful trout
#

Dont forget it was brought to louisianna by the sculptor

wintry panther
#

And we dont know where ground zero is?

wooden hound
#

The plague started, and the sculptor built off of it.

sinful trout
#

And its less of a plague

wintry panther
#

Hi Var'uun!

sinful trout
#

And more of an affliction

#

It has characteristics of both thouhh

late tinsel
#

It’s more of an aff- Var ftw

sinful trout
#

Bot not quite either

wintry panther
#

lmao

sinful trout
#

@late tinsel fingers too fast BOI

#

Girlfriend loves it

junior pecan
#

Var’uun, new theory: Enterprise.

late tinsel
#

Fastest hands in the West lmao

junior pecan
#

Sculptor is here for alien matter, we’re here for alien energy

sinful trout
#

Ill bd afk prowler. Ping me in the theory

#

Ow

#

No

wintry panther
#

Q: What was/is “The Sundering”?
A: This is something we do not want to reveal yet. All I can say is that it’s integral to how the
entire Huntverse works

sinful trout
#

STOP

wintry panther
#

Is this what brought plague?

sinful trout
#

I

#

Personally

#

Believe its the first event

#

How do we defeat sonething weve never seen before?

junior pecan
#

Don’t need to, it’s never seen us

wintry panther
#

Q. What are we actually picking up from the bosses? We get it’s a token but what actually is it?
A: It’s a unique part of their body containing part of their soul.
Is this part of the Sculptor that we take? Is this why he is weakening over time

sinful trout
#

It could have been watching us for a while

late tinsel
#

No, not the source of the plague. The sundering is almost certainly what prompted the creation of Associations, and we know the AHA has existed under many names for hundreds of years.

wintry panther
#

Gotcha

junior pecan
#

I’ll write it out and ping you

#

It’s sorta long

wintry panther
#

Prowler earlier mentioned clues to Rome

junior pecan
#

But it’s believable

wintry panther
#

Thanks

#

Im sorry for all the questions

junior pecan
#

All good, most people take no interest

late tinsel
#

No keep asking 🙂

wintry panther
#

How do HUnters acquire the true deck cards

#

Haha oh you know I will

#

I want to get involved with this community a lot

#

especially in lore

late tinsel
#

That’s a great question with the True Deck. We know the AHA is using them as rewards. We don’t know where they come from.

#

Several hunters have written about the True Deck but we know very little about it.

wintry panther
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What is the purpose of the duck easter egg in Port Reeker

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Thanks Foxtrap for the explanations

late tinsel
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Ah the ducks are the true form of the Sculptor.

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((Joking))

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It’s just an Easter egg.

wintry panther
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Ahhh haha ok

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Q: A disease or a curse
A: characteristics of each. The late 19th century was a period of cultural revolution, where
scientific replaced religious thinking. The closing of the western frontier obliterated oral folklores
and mythologies, but in turn imaginative thinking emerged again in the burgeoning genre of
science fiction. What’s affecting the bayou is an amalgamation of these anxieties

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Is this where influences of voudou come into play with lore

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Also

late tinsel
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Maybe. Hoodoo in Louisiana was pretty big around this era, but the majority of Hunt’s “magic” and lore seems to indicate Haitian Vodou has some mystic properties.

wintry panther
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Q: What is the point of the entities to spread the affliction? do they have a reason they came
here?
A: Hunger ... we'll hopefully have a chance to go more into this, but can't make any promises

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Do they farm our world for something

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Gtg for a bit

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Ill be back though!

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Getting off work now

junior pecan
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Again, alien matter

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Banishment

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Takes mass from our world into theirs

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Takes energy from their world into ours

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The bargain

late tinsel
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Could be they’re feeding on the life essence of their victims (blood sacrifice is symbolic of life force being given to loa in rituals), but we can hardly speculate more than some greedy hunger. There’s a lovecraftian mystery to the spirits, inter dimensional beings, or aliens. Unless there’s some updated lore I’m not privy to, I don’t think we fully understand and I don’t think we really ever should to maintain the supernatural spirit of the material.

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I’ve been away since 1.0 started testing so I’m still getting caught up on all the new stuff.

sinful trout
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@late tinsel im confused. Did you agree with me or disagree?

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Oh never mind

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But yes i believe the sundering (literal definition is to break apart) is what caused associations to take place, to take charge and defeat the evils before it consumed our world

junior pecan
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I think it’s the inverse, this is a reality that INITIALLY looked into ours in search of soul essence, and spiritual energy, but there’s a greater prize to be had. The loa are spirits, some sort of unexplained energy. But we’re the opposite. We’re a bunch of meat puppets that may or may not even have a soul. We pursue material gains: food, water, weapons, capital. We utilize those things to grow and maintain our bodies and minds. A living being that “hungers” but is a spirit cannot consume in the traditional sense. They seek energy, hence the blood sacrifices and all that Jazz. The hunters figured it out first though, the matter of that other reality is unmanipulated. Just as the energy of ours in the 1890’s is bare and yet to be contained or improved in any particular manner but telegraph, lighting, and some machinery. But the MATTER is incredible. The most complex machine in the world is the mammals that reside within it. That’s what the entities are after, matter, a scarce resource for them but a more than abundant one in ours. What they DO have is refined energy, and they use it to manipulate our reality. Sculptor is reviving bosses using corpses within our reality. Butcher is pigs and cattle, spider is multiple human bodies, Assassin in is innumerable insects and a human body. Sculptor wants this matter for himself in his own reality, so he gets the hunters to banish them by planting the bounties. Hunters use energy to further themselves, entities use matter. @sinful trout

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Wall of text I know

late tinsel
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@sinful trout For sure. The 1800s-1900s was a clash of old-meets-new. We had ideologies that were around for hundreds of years suddenly being called into question, along with a revolution in science and study. All signs, including the creation of the various hunter associations, seems to indicate the sundering took place hundreds of years ago.

sinful trout
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@junior pecan you think sculptor is working WITH hunters?

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@late tinsel i 100% agree

late tinsel
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@junior pecan that’s an interesting theory, but I’ve my doubts the Sculptor would go through all that trouble for a matter heist.

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“Yooo gimme that biomass!”

junior pecan
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@sinful trout He doesn’t need to, they’re predictable. He needs only regenerate the bosses and his other forces and they’ll be banished, the energy he invested in the bosses is taken by the hunters, and the biomass he manipulated to make them is banished to his dimension

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@late tinsel the hunters are doing it for an energy heist, who’s to say the spirits of pure energy won’t do the same for matter

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And it’s SOO MUCH how many bosses did we banish in that one week community challenge?

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Sure, not canon,, but representative none the less

late tinsel
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That’d be an interesting twist, but considering we’ve been to the other side, that means there’s a tangible existence of some kind for the loa on their side. You also have to consider they’re keeping the souls or minds of the people they warp intact to some degree. I don’t think it’s quite that simple, but your idea is certainly something I hadn’t considered before and therefore refreshing to read.

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Also also

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Reinforcing a tangible existence of the loa is the boss token. Energy or no, there’s a remnant of them we can pick up and carry with us to some degree. Same for the Wellspring.

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Are they demons? Are they from another dimension? Hell, why not both? What is hell but just another place? That’s about the logic I see Hunt functioning on, so it’s hard to say what we concretely know, given some authors might not be reliable.

junior pecan
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I think it still could be. Just as Loa can exist in our reality, replacing the souls of the dead via possession, we are likely capable of existing in theirs, mass has gravity, if that carries over to their reality, then there’s still space for us

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Breathing would be an issue though. Can a spirit exist in the void of space? Mammals sure can’t

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Perhaps the rifts leak more than entities and life, energy from theirs pours into ours, while matter from ours pours into theirs. Quite valuable, but temporary. Like a gold meteor

wooden hound
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I'm back.

late tinsel
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Maybe so. I had theorized before the loa need to inhabit bodies to chill in our world, but who knows? Atm everything on that spectrum is speculation and I try to avoid doing that too much.

A really interesting question is if the loa are in fact spirits, why haven’t they just left the area and spooked elsewhere? Are they tied to the rifts? Why don’t they spread from the dead zone?

junior pecan
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After the sundering, certain parties began utilizing the stable portals. Lynch and the third party mentioned in bomblance, responsible for Fin’s possession

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Possession seems beyond human capabilities

late tinsel
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Ooooh interesting. I’ll give that a read.

wooden hound
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So, can I get a summarization?

junior pecan
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Lynch has yet to use it, her methods seem very material for a ritual

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Salt for the magic circle, blood for the blood god etc

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But no projection of spirit, no magic hands

wooden hound
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So rituals?

junior pecan
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Talking about the inverse of realities

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Read above

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Find that wall of text

late tinsel
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Wait are those literally named as components in the new entries? Something Lynch uses?

wooden hound
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Ah, so mirroring of worlds?

late tinsel
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If I followed correctly that’s the gist, yeah.

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But inverse. Matter-energy.

junior pecan
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Magic circles, she uses them to contain spiritual energy, entrapping djinn and keeping human souls from passing

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Inverses, but out of coincidence, I’m not saying there’s an entity name ffuh senoj

wooden hound
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So, sculptor A) Needs energy to destroy our dimension

Or B) To gain energy because he is constantly weakening.

rotund ferry
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@shut mountain The idea reminds me of Fable

junior pecan
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@wooden hound don’t think of him as an evil spirit, he’s a living being, he has a hierarchy of needs like us. Security, food, water, but not those things, only equivalents

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He uses our reality to gain strength, just as hunters use the bounties to get paid

late tinsel
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The only problem I have with B is that the Sculptor or some other force was powerful enough to allow the rifts to form. So I doubt it needs something from our world, but there’s something it WANTS.

junior pecan
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Hunger

late tinsel
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Ye

junior pecan
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It has an opportunity, it has seized upon it

wooden hound
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@junior pecan Hence, destroy our world.

junior pecan
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Maybe it’s not matter, maybe it’s something more particular

neat mica
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so would the other realm or other side (assuming it was something that could be accessed) would it be something that is accessed as information (psychics), or can physically be stepped into?

late tinsel
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Both.

junior pecan
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Destroying a reality serves no purpose, why not harvest it? Why not let it grow? And return to reap the spoils

wooden hound
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@neat mica As far as we know, it IS accessible, but it's not exactly a good thing though.

junior pecan
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Evil doesn’t exist in hunt, only motivation and action

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People and entities have agendas they pursue

late tinsel
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@neat mica There are those who can see into the arteries between worlds and those who have gone to the other side.

junior pecan
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No one seeks the worst outcome, nor the best

wooden hound
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Destroy our world, not reality itself, bit instead the population, the sculptor's creations are here for hunger and constantly feasting as they constantly rise.

late tinsel
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RIP whoever Simon was. Still not sure if he was one of the folks that crossed over but that’s my guess.

wooden hound
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I believe he did.

late tinsel
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He lies in the 8th circle yeah?

junior pecan
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What purpose do soulless zombies have for a spiritual entity? And he has no chance, his influence is limited, he is destined to fail when the rift collapses

wooden hound
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I think he began his descent to the 8th "circle"

late tinsel
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You know the other side is bad when they use terms relating to circles of hell.

wooden hound
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What would we call the other world?

junior pecan
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He has no reach beyond Louisiana, and his methods are strange, he doesn’t know how to kill man just as man doesn’t know how to kill him. He lets the feral side of man do the killing, he doesn’t quite understand it

late tinsel
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Hhhhhhhell

wooden hound
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Well, it's explained by religion but isn't religion, so circles aren't genuine circles, hence the quotes.

late tinsel
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Also @junior pecan even lesser spirits can control the dead like meat puppets in Vodou.

junior pecan
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Valence?

neat mica
junior pecan
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We are talking about energy. And levels? And circles? Lotta coincidence

late tinsel
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Yeah I know. Just sticking with the using religion to explain the unknown theme @wooden hound

wooden hound
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Still, obviously pretty bad.

wintry panther
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I’m back gamers

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Have you ever read the manga or watched the anime gantz

late tinsel
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Welcome back epic fortnite gamer

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I have not

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Sadly

wintry panther
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dabs aggressively in orange justice

late tinsel
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Lmao

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Good sport

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+1

wooden hound
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Am I bad at lore?

late tinsel
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No. It’s not complete so none of us are good at it.

wintry panther
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So the premise of Gantz is that hero’s are selected (who have previously died) to fight aliens. Turns out they’re just another civilization. And while we believe they’re the bad guys, we invade their world and do the same and kill their civilians on their world. Turns out to be that we travel between rifts to kill aliens who are killing us for killing them. And the whole time they came over for resources

late tinsel
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Oh I getcha.

junior pecan
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I can see the resemblance

late tinsel
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But I’m pretty sure the loa are mostly trying to just eat our asses.

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Not in the good way though.

junior pecan
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Spiritual asses

late tinsel
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Yeah.

wooden hound
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See, misinterpretation of events likely leads to wars, and the sculptor possibly came for that but but he also brought the affliction.

wintry panther
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This just reminded me of it

wooden hound
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He did bring the affliction.

late tinsel
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Well lemme put it this way.

-other place is bad
-Sculptor makes super bad dudes
-affliction
-hunger
-meat puppets

If this is a cultural misunderstanding

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Hoooooo boooooy

wooden hound
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Haha, meat puppets

junior pecan
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Coulda been an accident, inexperienced loa shoved into our reality entirely, has complete access to the souls of the entire state of Louisiana, probably gonna fuck up and kill people

wooden hound
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Well, if this is the case, sculptor obviously isn't the brightest.

late tinsel
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“Sorry fam, I’m new to this whole spirit thing. Mind if I.... DEVASTATE AN ENTIRE WORLD?”

wooden hound
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Haha

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Same I dea

late tinsel
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Haha just kidding

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.... unless?

wooden hound
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Unless..?

junior pecan
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Any known Loa who manipulate biomass? And low level insanity?

late tinsel
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🤔🤔🤔

wooden hound
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Has no physical form correct?

late tinsel
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Just about any loa can possess a body.

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Some loa do have forms

junior pecan
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But that isn’t the same as modifying one

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Not replicating one

late tinsel
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But are mostly invited to posses peeps.

junior pecan
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He seems adept at manipulation of biomass, but incapable of advanced creations

wooden hound
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possess

junior pecan
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No creativity

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And I don’t think sculptor has possessed anyone yet

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Only driven people to primal insanity

late tinsel
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Okay ya got me on grammar there. There are very few loa posses.

junior pecan
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Seems immensely capable of manipulating slugs though

late tinsel
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Actually I take that back

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Loa are known to travel in groups sometimes

wooden hound
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Take what back?

late tinsel
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Some don’t go anywhere without another

wooden hound
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Possible explanation to the other loan?

late tinsel
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Possibly

junior pecan
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Society in my eyes, social circles

wooden hound
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DAMN YOU AUTOCORRECT

late tinsel
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Ladies and gentlemen

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We have uncovered

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Loa.. society

junior pecan
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Safety in numbers is destined to still apply

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Very fundamental concept of life

late tinsel
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And yes I agree safer in numbers.

wintry panther
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That’s why you go trio and never solo

wooden hound
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Maybe the sculptor has an ally?

late tinsel
wooden hound
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They possibly work together to work on creations.

junior pecan
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Sculptor has always been referenced in the texts as singular. Could be unreliable authors. Ask a lore dev that, they’d probably answer

late tinsel
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There’s a theory. We only know of one man’s reference and the devs have hinted that might not be the full story there.

wintry panther
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Who is lore dev

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And where is crytek hq

junior pecan
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Germany

wintry panther
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Fk

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I don’t speak Wolfenstein

wooden hound
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oof

junior pecan
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I don’t speak 6 million apologists

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/banbait/banbait

wooden hound
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@junior pecan @late tinsel @wintry panther

junior pecan
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Que

wooden hound
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Lore

junior pecan
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I

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Wow

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Autocorrect ruined my joke

wooden hound
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Say it

junior pecan
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*k

wooden hound
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Hahahaha

junior pecan
wintry panther
wooden hound
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So, do you think the sculptor has an ally?

wintry panther
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I think he has to, and it might be someone on our side or someone high up in AHA

wooden hound
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Hmm... Like..?

wintry panther
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don’t think he could be this free to do what he wants on his own without someone giving him tips

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I’m thinking Huff

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Who originally had good intentions but might have become warped in grievance

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Made a deal with the devil

wooden hound
junior pecan
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Feel like you cats are antagonizing huff for no reason

wintry panther
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Where are the good articles on Huff

wooden hound
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Hey, he suggested it, I'm not antagonizing anything.

wintry panther
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He just seems central

junior pecan
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They’re in business

wooden hound
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So, there were past sculptors

junior pecan
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It’s their job to kill these things

wooden hound
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"This One"

junior pecan
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“Possessor of 92”

wintry panther
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So why would you want people to stop business

junior pecan
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Don’t remember that one?

neat mica
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the AHA is like, the worst association of anything lol

wintry panther
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You can always create a steady supply if there is demand

junior pecan
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They do their job, sort of

wintry panther
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And who better to do both

junior pecan
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Not true

wintry panther
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I think Wild West level structure

wooden hound
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They do their job, but not great.

junior pecan
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How do you supply otherworldly entities

wooden hound
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So we just gonna ignore my suggestion.

junior pecan
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It’s out of your control

neat mica
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send out 10 people to do a job, only ~20% come back, every time

junior pecan
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Yes there were past entities murican, no they weren’t sculptors

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Not true flying, they used to not kill each other

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Got greedy, it’s their doing

neat mica
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i'm not too serious, it's gameplay

junior pecan
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Lodgers literally came to hunt hunters, and people wanted the bounty for themselves

wintry panther
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The devs said this isn’t like previous incidents

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It’s pivotal

junior pecan
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Homino homini lupus ect

wooden hound
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Ah, well what is the sundering?

wintry panther
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People think it’s what started the plague

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Or started he AHA

junior pecan
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Not AHA

wooden hound
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It's probably going to majorly effect the lore.

junior pecan
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It’s probably important

late tinsel
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Excuse me. Late, but I will not tolerate slandering of the prestigious Dr. Huff Jones.

neat mica
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i'd love to see sequels to Hunt that take place during historical plagues/outbreaks

wooden hound
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Shut it fox, you're too late.

late tinsel
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Sounds like you wanna be retired

junior pecan
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Another reason to support the enterprise theory. Sculptor is making waves in his reality. He’s gonna be loaded, just like the hunters

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Convalescent home with her

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*yee

wintry panther
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Huff runs an asylum, don’t you guys know Asylums are never good signs in games

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I’ve played outlast enough to know

junior pecan
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Only info we have on asylum is the attempted curing of William salter

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Who then broke out and uncured himself

wooden hound
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So, hunters possibly go insane from what they see, is an asylum THAT suspicious?

junior pecan
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They get hella sick is what happens

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Salter’s wife got a spiritual std, killed her and made the first meathead, Walter was ‘exposed’ to that same disease

wintry panther
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Lmao "spiritual std"

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im dead

wooden hound
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Thought it killed the entire room.

junior pecan
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Nah they bolted for their winny’s and when they got back the 4 foot meathead baby had bolted

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Just took off into the night, leeches and all

wooden hound
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Holy shit that's a massive newborn.

wintry panther
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Elwood Finch got moved tothe asylum too though after getting snoopy

junior pecan
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After that, sculptor started duplicating meatheads, and now they’re everywhere

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And yeah, the mom died in birth

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Pretty sure it was salter’s wife. Could be wrong

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Check monstorvum: meathead

wooden hound
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I did.

junior pecan
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New inoculation sterilizes recipients for that reason.

late tinsel
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Pretty sure Finch was just put to work at the asylum with a new project.

wintry panther
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Btw the QNA they have in the Lore doc is so helpful

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Wil they have another

late tinsel
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It is, but it’s also a little dated. And I’m not too sure.

wooden hound
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No more spirit STD's

wintry panther
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True

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We should increase awareness to Spirit STD's, everyone should have ribbons

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Athletes should wear different jerseys

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Have a whole month for awareness

late tinsel
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Well