lore-discussion

[sinful trout]

almost like a 3 tick on the gun indicating tto the reader you use the valerian cypher

[amber harbor]

like the knife uses the one the devs gave us

the black hand uses the wiki one

[sinful trout]

or a 2 tick indicating church of nigvht cypher

[amber harbor]

how did you know

some weapons do have numbers on them

[sinful trout]

huh

well tbh

if i was a dev thats what i would do

[amber harbor]

are you a dev

that was too spot on

[sinful trout]

10/10 @rotund ferry and i are the same person

have you ever seen us both in the same room at the same time?

didnt think so

cant prove im not hearn

[amber harbor]

checks out

[forest condor]

he can't prove it unless he comes to meet you, or you go there

and steal all the files on hunt

[patent orchid]

so, I was reading newly opened lore and found this

so, what changed since this and why are women hunters allowed from now on?

[amber harbor]

if women got pregnant they gave birth to meatheads

[sinful trout]

thge meatheads then eat the mother

first documented case was the meathead killed 14 hunters

[amber harbor]

the aha made a new serum which make the woman infertile

so that's why women are allowed now

[warm sequoia]

How the hell did one baby meathead kill 14 hunters?

That makes no sense within the lore

[sinful trout]

think of it this way

theyve never seen a meathead before

[warm sequoia]

It was only the size of a child though

[sinful trout]

underestimate it and it can poison/rip you apart in seconds

[warm sequoia]

I could see maybe half a dozen

But even that is unlikely

Yeah it was the size of a 6 or 7 year old child

No way it killed 14 hunters

Unless they were unarmed which could be the case as it says by the time a band of armed hunters arrived it was gone

[sinful trout]

they would be visiting hannah kinney in her home after giving bitrth, no reason to bring a gun

[forest condor]

Yeah they were unarmed and it had arms, they had no chance

Also 6 year olds can be pretty tell

Tall*

[sinful trout]

@random lava REMOVE THE THOT

@sacred sable HELP

[forest condor]

I joined and said fuck you, apparently they don't like that word

Good it's gone

That was fun

[sinful trout]

welp

just realised we can look at all the tools and comnsumables up close

@sick vault you were right. medical supplies asmus

not surplus

all bugs in hive bomb are horseflies/blackflies. but that could just be a design thing

the scopea are from the "Edward Zweig optics" manufacturer.
Marksmen = Zweig MK II
Precision/Deadeye = Model MK VI
Sniper = Zweig MK V
\

The harpoon section of the bomblance was designed for "Whilton Ironworks ltd"

[forest condor]

What are they doing with explosive harpoons

[sinful trout]

its just the harpoon part

id assume the explosive thing was added by hunters

not to mention the avtoamt actually has "Avtomat" written on it above some symbol

NO

NUMBERS

ally i can make out is 164

[viscid crow]

So im new too the lore

Why are hunters allowed to kill each ither if there is an association

[sinful trout]

association wants the bounty tokens

what you do to aquire them is your buisness

also

whos to say a zombie didnt kill them?

"no i didnt kill anyone, some other organizations hunters must have"

not to mention other hunting otrginzations are allowed to go after bounty tokens in another country as well

so where i work for aha

someone else might work for the sinners

(a muslim hunting group)

@viscid crow

[viscid crow]

Ahhhh i see. "Must've been a grunt that got em"

"Isn't that his mosin nagant in your hands?"
"What? No! I found it in a barn at salters pork silly"

[forest condor]

Basically

Also the organization doesn't appear to be anything more than an initiation group, after you get initiated they're fairly hands off aside from handing out the contracts

And the payout ofc

[viscid crow]

Imagine if they made a boss that is made of corpses of dead hunters

[forest condor]

Spider

Well it's not dead hunters

[viscid crow]

Duh

Oh

[forest condor]

But it is around 13 dead people

"dead"

We don't really know if they're truly dead

[viscid crow]

Ugh... Whats a good place to start to really dive deep into this games lore. Ive been aying it for about a year and not given much attention to the lore but coming from games like darksouls with beautiful impactful lore that you have to dig for i would love to learn all the little secrets and overarching lore of the Hunt universe

Playing*

[sinful trout]

a good p[lace?

the trials of dr reed

[forest condor]

Okay, in the pinned posts there's a doc made by varrun

[sinful trout]

i always reccomend it

[forest condor]

That holds a bunch of out collective knowledge from outside their website

If also suggest reading their story tab in their website, a good 20ish articles about different parts of the hunt-verse

[viscid crow]

Thanks ive started my reading

[sick vault]

@sinful trout Asmus is the name of one of the 3D artists for hunt

[sinful trout]

@sick vault yeah I knew it was a name. That was about it though

[jolly karma]

Is there lore on any of the legendary hunters?

[eternal crystal]

There is a little description on each of them at least.

[amber harbor]

Today is the lore stream

[sick vault]

I'm not sure if I like the lore streams, 95% of the questions that are asked are already answered in our pinned posts

[slim hatch]

^ Agreed

We have QnA's we have 2 compilation docs

We have transcriptions

It's gonna be a wasted opportunity 90% Sure

Same as the live QnA in discord that happened

where people were asking shit that is already answered thus wasting allocated time

[sinful trout]

I'll be a bit late to it but I agree. It's a total waste of time unless it's a closed stream to actual lore people

So someone will have to catch me up when I get there

[abstract mirage]

What does the cross mean in hunt showdown?

[sick vault]

@abstract mirage The Logo? Looks like an H for Hunt

[abstract mirage]

Yes

Anything more related

I had a friend who had a simular tattoo one cross on his left and an upside down one on his right hand

[slim hatch]

No other meaning

Life and Death, H and original intention with Duo

3 meanings

Nothing more beyond that

[forest condor]

One question we seriously need answered is what their formula is for the voynich on the guns

Cause it seems jumbled as fricc

[amber harbor]

so the twins are explained in the BoW

[sick vault]

seems so

looks like we need some screens of the unlocked BoW too

[amber harbor]

yea

if anyone has unlocked any number of masteries on BoW feel free to drop some screenshots here

[sinful trout]

I'd gladly update the doc

If we got the screens

Also lore stream is getting us no progress :(

[sick vault]

that got us nowhere ^^

[amber harbor]

thyre taking questions rn

@sinful trout

[sick vault]

yeah and they said that there is no new cipher for the voynich

so the symbols on the new weapon skins might only be art and not something we can translate 😦

[amber harbor]

the voynich has new letters

its far too much text and punctuation for it to be random

Imo

[forest condor]

Ask them about the letter that looks like a c

[amber harbor]

I asked them about new voynich

[forest condor]

Cause that sure as hell isn't I'm their cipher but is in the decoded actual voynich script

[amber harbor]

https://clips.twitch.tv/LivelyZanyCucumberPhilosoraptor

heres the answer they gave

[sick vault]

yeah and we can't use our alphabet for the weapon skins

[forest condor]

That was an awful answer

[amber harbor]

Ikr

[forest condor]

Sorry guys but it was

I mean we've had it decoded for awhile now and it sounds like they don't really know that

And with the letters matching up so we'll with the voynich irl it's not just inspired by it, it's attempting to replicate the feeling of the of voynich, some mysterious language that looks almost occult

[sick vault]

That's why I said it might just be something the art team put on the weapons without knowing that we are used to translate the voynich

[forest condor]

Probably

Which just doesn't feel right

[amber harbor]

I dont get why a particular voynich translation works for 1 weapon skin

[forest condor]

I feel like the accidentally used both irl voynich and ingsme voynich

[sick vault]

it works for the knife and one of the guns

[forest condor]

In-game voynich works for the knife

Irl voynich works for a shotgun

[amber harbor]

ill ask them

yeah they didnt read it

rip

[forest condor]

oh

that sucks

[sick vault]

to summarize the stream: they don't know anything about the voynich on the guns and we need the mastery pages from the book of weapons ^^

[rotund ferry]

Haha literally, "Just read the books lol"

[forest condor]

Wait they talk about it in the mastery pages? Yeaaah :(

[sinful trout]

So

Here's the breakdown of the lore stream

We like working on hunt lore

Read the books

Thanks for coming

[rotund ferry]

"Ask us Lore questions"
Asks lore question
"LOL read the books... NEXT"

[sinful trout]

Not to mention we had trolls in the chat

See

This is why I hate ama and lore streams

NOTHING gets done

Because everyone who's actually asking the questions doesn't know a thing

Like we don't ask these questions because we're ignorant

We've read the book of monsters

And already there's like 6 pieces of EXTREMELY contradicting information

And forgive me for not completely focusing on book of weapons

As to merely unlock the liquid fire bomb I have to go 5 matches COMPLETELY burning my consumables slot

And you can't tell me I don't know the book of monsters

[rotund ferry]

I think "Lore Stream" was the wrong name for what they ran.

It's fine if you guys want to come together and chat about development, writing, and how things have come together -- even plug the Book of Weapons.

But that's not a Lore Stream, it' just a Dev Q&A

[sinful trout]

I transcribed it. I literally read every single word in the fucking thing

Afk

[amber harbor]

Just read the book of weapons

[rotund ferry]

Exactly haha

Current Lore -> Read the book of weapons
Unwritten Lore -> I don't want to say

[sick vault]

I would read it if I didn't had to shoot 500 hives with my vetterli to unlock a mastery page ^^

[rotund ferry]

Here's what we need -- compile all the lore and content in the Book of Weapons and other in-game lore sources into a physical book for retail release. Make it all faux worn and leathery looking, charge $25 for it. I'd love to be able to buy and read all of the lore at my own pace.

[amber harbor]

@rotund ferry we have a lore doc in the pinned messages, but idk if thets what youre referring to

[rotund ferry]

That's definitely super helpful! Thank you!
I was thinking of a collectors item, similar to things like the Dunwall City Archives from Dishonored or the New York Collapse Survival Guide from The Division.

Totally not necessary, but it would be a really cool way to read lore .

I know they're constantly changing and updating and adding Lore, so that likely wouldn't work for their storytelling method

[sinful trout]

Like Its times like these I miss ol fasih. Because he would actually answer our questions and clarify the things that needed it. If we pried, he said no, but when we needed clarification he was there to answer

Nobody can tell me he wasn't active in the community

[forest condor]

he was great

[calm vortex]

Yeah the lore stream was kinda a joke

It was more of a "This is where we got the idea for this part of the lore" strteam

[forest condor]

It would be fine if it was titled as a lore development livestream

[amber harbor]

too many words

[forest condor]

lore dev ls

[bold tiger]

@sinful trout is the stream wortb watching? Like was there anything new?

[sinful trout]

Nope

Sorry @bold tiger

[bold tiger]

Darn, well that sucks

Say do you think we will be getting a Winfield pistol, judging by the Caldwell rival description

Wow

I tried listening

But it was quite fast from interesting

[earnest jungle]

So the Lore Stream was a big ole nothing-burger?

[forest condor]

ya

[lyric fog]

i’m just now starting to get into the lore, anywhere i should go to watch/ read the most about the lore that i can?

[devout cedar]

@lyric fog Pinned messages and #lore-discussion-hardcore

[lyric fog]

ah thank you

[granite steeple]

is the spider a boy or girl??

[digital snow]

can someone please explain in detail how the grunts came about?

[amber harbor]

@granite steeple the spider is made up of 13 humans. The devs mostly refer to it as a girl, but the model was based on a male

@Rut#4263 we dont know the exact process, but the grunts are people who came under the sculptors influence. Based on the trials of dr. Reed we know its a gradual sanity loss that leads to the transformation. He was percieving other humans as a threat and hallucinated flies. In the end its possible he murdered 13 people and another hunter buried them together, thus creqting the spider

Oh he left

[sinful trout]

Rip

[forest condor]

@crumb#4642 also remember that they refer to the spider as a girl in the same way someone would refer to a boat as a girl, they're bit confirming anything, just personifying it to make it easier to talk about

[amber harbor]

he left too. Shame

[slim hatch]

I actually re-read the the last AMA questions and it really really really pissed me off

From the compilation doc

So many fucking idiotic questions.... That are obvious and granted from all the exchanges given in the lore texts

Oh also

Fuck Need to preserve Louisiana papers since they delete them in 1.0

@forest condor @sinful trout Got em posted here https://discordapp.com/channels/350201607788429323/456375402638737421/606984388978278411 just hit me now that we need them saved

[forest condor]

@slim hatch thanks for the papers, i knew i was forgetting something

[bold tiger]

The spider has like, 5-7 dicks since its made out of multiple people

But probably none

Since it is just meat

And dicks would do nothing for the demons controlling this

[main fable]

you never consider the sculptor can use the spider d to make another spider ??? jk

[silver rune]

[boreal shore]

[sinful trout]

@bold tiger webs

@slim hatch I'll take a look

Want me to transcribe them all into the docM

[slim hatch]

I think so would be good @sinful trout

[sinful trout]

alright give me a bit

[slim hatch]

Not in a hurry got the screenshots so do when you've time.

Would be in a hurry if it was day before 1.0 went live

[sinful trout]

yeah, ill get to it at some point today

I'll have to catalogue all the new names soon. Not bothering with "the twins" till we get their real name or we have way more lore on them

Anyone have a real name for redshirt?

And don't forget everyone.
For the love of God NO THE AHA DID NOT EXPERIMENT WITH TIME TRAVEL

[sinful trout]

@slim hatch all done, beautifying it now

[slim hatch]

Is time Travel the next President's Daughter Case?

[sinful trout]

i swear to god ess'

oh

while im here

dr reed trials ---> lore doc?

(i spent about half an hour transcribing the newspaper clippings when i realised some poor soul did it on the fandom)

@slim hatch Ping

ill get the names updatred when possible. can someone start by going through the book of weapons for names and citing which page they found them so i dont double back?

wish there was a lorenian role so i could ping all the non hardcorers

[slim hatch]

@sinful trout Trials of Dr.Reed was the first proper Lore Text aside from Haywards letter

[sinful trout]

correct

im wondering if i should put it in lore doc

since its a great place to start imo

[slim hatch]

I’d say yes

Considering they are starting to wipe their own lore

I think it’s better to have it all preserved

[visual comet]

Newbie here, I have a question about the plague, is it considered that the plague spread beyond Louisiana? And if it did, would it open up new ideas for maps and lore?

[forest condor]

so it's not a plague but rather an affliction by an entity we know as teh sculpter

while there have been events outside of Louisiana this one is fairly localized

[visual comet]

thanks good friend

[forest condor]

no problem, feel free to ask any more questions 😃

[warm sequoia]

One thing I’d like to know, given how the AHA and other groups existed pre louvent, and how we know that other similar events have occurred, is if these events are the only supernatural things going on in this world, or if there are smaller isolated creatures and such

Like skinwalkers, or Bigfoot, or vampires

Things not affiliated with the sculptor or louvent

I remember something about a poltergeist being brought up

[forest condor]

that was another event

the poltergeist

[sinful trout]

"THAT POLTERGEIST CASE OF '86 WAS CERTAINLY NOT PLEASANT."

[slim hatch]

WE don't know about stuff like skinwalkers, bigfoot or vampires never been mentioned or hinted at

So until we have any material to imply/support/confirm such cases of mythology

The answer is no

[warm sequoia]

I hope they drop some lore about other spooky stuff that goes on in the huntverse

I’ll be a little disappointed if it’s all just big events, kinda goes against the theme of not just a struggle against good and evil they talk about avoiding

[sinful trout]

I would be doubtful if any sculptor that came into the world didn't wreak havoc.

[weak marsh]

Are there any monsters from native American folklore that would fit into this game?

[warm sequoia]

I don’t doubt the sculptors wouldn’t be a problem when the come into the world, I just hope that sculptors aren’t the only threat the aha faces, or at least that within the lore not all are bug based

I don’t expect to see any other sculptors in Hunt gameplay tho

[forest condor]

@weak marsh there's some, I've worked with a few community guys to see what would work and a good deal actually could

There's one regarding lights that lure people to their deaths

Boom fake clues

Sculpter using clue energy to lure away hunters

(or whatever crap is inside clues that let hunters see them in DS)

[weak marsh]

That would be cool

[dense nova]

Will o the wisp?

[forest condor]

something like that

[rotund ferry]

Do you guys see any lovecraftian elements coming our way in respect to lore? Maybe associations with totems or more ancient forces working behind the scenes of the infection

I’ve just been reading lots of Lovecraft lately and see some parallels

[sinful trout]

theres lovecraft paralells in almost every horror story

[rotund ferry]

True but hunt has a few more than most

[sinful trout]

mm

[smoky stream]

Have the team ever thought about adding infected hunters to the grunt's skin pool?

Also, is a singleplayer Hunt game planned for the future?

[dense nova]

I'm not sure how these questions relate to lore discussion.

But I believe the official stance is that single player Hunt in any way is not planned or intended.

No solo mode, no PvE co-op, no story based, it's all intended to be a PvP game.

[jade cape]

https://youtu.be/2qIqwPhtiBg

[languid bough]

What is it? Because I don't speak russian, and I think I'm not the only one

[forest condor]

@slim hatch i think you're the only one here who knows any russian

could you tell us what the basis of this video is? or is it all stuff we know

[slim hatch]

@forest condor Mostruvm mainly

It covers Slau Lore (Rosche) , Butcher Entries and Meathead entries

[forest condor]

ahh okay

thanks 😃

[languid bough]

Ok

[terse raft]

Is the lore original or is it based on something like world of darkness-esque? Either way I kinda love the lore of this game.

[sinful trout]

Lore is original. But there was inspiration

[forest condor]

I read that Finch needed our help and was subsequently dissapointed that it was a community challenge and not a lore thing

Not to say a community challenge is bad

Just that I was hoping for a lore thinf

[amber harbor]

I hope they update us on the lore aspect of the challenge

that researcher might have something

unless I'm just grasping at straws bc I want some lore

[exotic wasp]

Nice buff to the avto! This game is turning in to COD rip- Hunt

[devout cedar]

This Is Lore related channel

[winged rune]

[rotund ferry]

Could say that the Sculptor is extra active for some reason and that the Hunters need to thin the herd before they break containment.

[forest condor]

no?

since the sculpter isn't really something that's been here for long

there's nothing to compare it to since it's its own event

[sinful trout]

@forest condor actually we dont know how long sculptor has been here for

in the stillwater bayou it looks like its been a fairly long time as theres barely any fresh bodies

however in delta it looks like almost all bodies are newly dead

so its safe to assume that the aha is less focused on killing sculptor and more interested in the souls it can collect from bounties

[forest condor]

okay looking at the facts you're completely right

@rotund ferry sorry for the misinformation

@sinful trout we know it started at least before 1890

"In October of 1890, I was in New Orleans"

in relation to teh assassin in the book of monsters

[sinful trout]

that was when harold first noticed vincent corscia

who we now know

is the assasin

[forest condor]

yep

[sinful trout]

great mystery surrounds vincent though

[forest condor]

it certainly does

[sinful trout]

we still have no idea weather his abilities (of bug spreading, blade manifesting/throwing, scaling walls and duplication) were arisen due to slight influence of the sculptor or weather he had them all along

[forest condor]

Hold up for a second

Are you are you saying that he might have been assassinating hunters before the sculpter?

[forest condor]

Maybe he could have been part of one of the cults that worship the entites

[static brook]

Hey hunters , any idea where i could get a quick lore catchup ? I've read the louisiana files and most monstrorum entries , is there some kind of super secret file hidden somewhere that i could take a look at ?

[rotund ferry]

https://www.huntshowdown.com/news/tagged/story?p=1#stickynav

This is a collection of location histories and a few in-universe letters on the official website. Good for a bit of flavor and connecting dots.

[static brook]

Thanks mate i'll go check this out

[rotund ferry]

Any time.

[forest condor]

@static brook https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Rb5ZTHorhSR4ReVsEGZKEQ4njrCo4JO18p7CcOzTe0/edit?usp=sharing there's also this

[sinful trout]

@forest condor. "In October of 1890, I was in New Orleans. I was a staff writer for one of the papers. I followed, naturally, the murder of David Hennessy with great professional and personal interest. Unseen assailants in the dead of night gunned down the Police Chief. Despite a relentless hunt, his killers were likely never caught. Eventually nineteen Italians found themselves imprisoned.

I was there for their barbarous lynching, remember two of the wretched men dragged from jail. I must admit, the sight was too much, and I left on the perimeter of the crowd, I saw another also making his leave. The man was hugely tall, and incredibly agitated. Something about him struck me as odd, and I began to follow.

Some way down the street he noticed me A shot rang out from the mob at the prison, and on that mark he began to sprint. I gave chase, struck by a sense of abandon"

All im saying is why would vincent sprint away if he wasnt guilty

[restive hawk]

There's two pretty basic things that I'm not understanding about the lore / haven't found explicit details on.
Who or what are the sculptors?
What is an event / incident described by the lore?

[amber harbor]

@restive hawk the sculptor is what we call an entity from another realm (many religious hunters refer to it as hell) that came to earth somehow

events occur when such beings come into our world and start having manifestations

[hybrid kelp]

just to get a foundation for all this should I real the google doc, or the actual in game journal/news article stuff?

[sinful trout]

Google doc has all the books in it :) @hybrid kelp

[hybrid kelp]

nice

[jovial stump]

i always thought the lore was that a Witch cursed the lands

and because of that curse we cannot stay longer than an hour and hence why such mutations happen

the curse are bound to powerful creatures and hence we banish them?

IDK maybe i'm making this up on the spot haha D:

[dense nova]

Completely incorrect, so you most likely are.

We can stay just fine, the time limit is purely a gameplay mechanic, not a lore tie in.

[jovial stump]

then i wil call if fanbased lore idea :3

[dense nova]

I mean, you can call it whatever you want, but the lore of the game is already pretty set.

[amber harbor]

the time limit is lore related

somewhat

1 hour is the time it takes for the sculptor to get his influence onto hunters

[forest condor]

specifically in the deadzones

outside of the deadzones (boss hunting grounds) it's influence isn't strong enough to latch onto those initiated into the AHA

[dense nova]

Interesting, I wasn't aware of that.

I thought the event had already happened and we were just cleaning up.

[forest condor]

as of right now it's ongoing

bosses still come back so the sculpter is still doing it's thing

[dense nova]

Man the sculptor must be hella glad that the hunters are such bastards that they constantly fight each other.

If it wasn't for that, we'd have the entire place cleaned up in a week with how easy it is to kill his stuff.

[foggy ice]

Or maybe we're his real monster

[forest condor]

they came here out of greed iirc from a QNA

[amber harbor]

well if theres at least one team remaining then the cleanup still gets done

with some gamer moment filled gunfights to keep the blood pumping

[amber harbor]

What bugs me is that even if the bayou has been abandoned for years pitching and other compounds still give off smoke

[forest condor]

Human bodies decompose quickly

[warm sequoia]

wait years? How long has the event lasted for?

[brave topaz]

@amber harbor Also, live horses, the existence of grunts that very definitely still have blood, the large supplies of ammo and the seemingly recently abandoned logging and fishing areas scattered around the maps, the only areas which seem to have been "abandoned for years" are the forts and civil war gun positions

gramophones, lanterns, cash registers all allude that the bayou was only very recently afflicted

the live horses and grunts can perhaps be explained by people entering the bayou however none of them would take in a fucking audio system or a cash register

[urban burrow]

have they been abandoned for "years"

?

[brave topaz]

well there are hundreds of reasons to say that they were abandoned recently

[urban burrow]

I agree

who said they were abandoned for years?

[brave topaz]

even the buildings' conditions are seemingly fine

"KebabWarriorYesterday at 21:41
What bugs me is that even if the bayou has been abandoned for years pitching and other compounds still give off smoke"

[neat nacelle]

bois what is the lore?

[urban burrow]

I do not think that is the case

These compounds have not been abandoned for years

There is no way

[brave topaz]

no, almost certainly not

it looks like at most a years damage for the towns, working environments and even rural homes

like i stated the only areas with significant damage are the civil war emplacements and fortifications such as Wolfshead, the Maw and Fort Carmick

[urban burrow]

In these locations even a year of abandonment and most buildings would be way way more fucked

[brave topaz]

however the presence of the trenches does suggest that the areas have been condemned

i've got no idea why there'd still BE trenches there if there if the area was still used

there's also caged live animals at these locations too

so something doesn't add up

[urban burrow]

Lots of reasons to build trenches in the bayou.

yeah, and caged dogs wouldnt still be alive years later

THey would have ate each other....and then the sole survivor would have starved

[bleak saddle]

Unless ofcourse... they too have a form of the "infection"

just not as advanced as that displayed in hellhounds

🤔

Making them last longer and remain as a pack

[brave topaz]

Well proxy, it's not that there aren't reasons to build them it's that there's no reason for them to persist

the game takes place a little while after the civil war

so i don't know why the residents didn't deconstruct the trenches

[urban burrow]

yeah but only about 20 years later. So i can see them still being around. But ya either way I agree with your assessment

[brave topaz]

Just found an answer to why the trenches are still around

it was in the Q&A document

Q: Where did the trench-work come from? Was there some kind of containment/survival effort or were they there from before the zombies?
A: In Lawson Delta? Some backwaters never invested the manpower to immediately demolish fortifications following the Civil War. Farming was more important!

[urban burrow]

that makes sense to me

[rotund ferry]

Legit didn't know the game had actual lore

[pastel hill]

Maybe only portions of the map are abandoned, and portions are squatted, and populated.

Maybe the ammo, burning pitch, and recently dead/afflicted could come from locals/hunter groups trying and failing to clean up themselves.

And we just come in behind them all on the ass end of the incident. The hardest and most greedy, eager to make that hot dollar.

[forest condor]

the incident is still ongoing as far as we know

and to be honest we're probably popping up as soon as a report of a boss comes in

so most likely these are recent transformations

[urban burrow]

thats is my thought also

[rotund ferry]

For the trenches, Port Reeker excluded itself from the Civil War. It's possible that they just don't know or don't care about the trenches since most of their trade would be from the water.

[dense nova]

Just because the port excluded itself doesn't mean the fort wasn't a major plot piece.

You can't just "Exclude," a fort in a war.

At the very least, one side or another would have wanted to fortify it.

The most simple option is just that it was fortified "Just in case," and then abandoned.

Which, seems to hold up from the lore QnA posted earlier.

It's one thing to dig trenches when you're actively at war, but once it's over, there's crops to be planted, you don't got time to tear down the holes you spent so long digging.

Just leave 'em to rot while you get the corn in the ground.

[brave topaz]

Well another thing that's interesting is the presence of cadavers in areas abandoned "for some time"

as described by the creator of the butcher in his diary entries found in the book of monsters the slaughterhouse had been abandoned for some time

but the pig corpses in there are relatively fresh and signs of decay are pretty nill

so either there's an entity preserving the hunting grounds and rather than simply recreating the boss creatures flat out stopping the decay of the dead

or we're fairly early on in the event

also this might just be me but i think there's something very unnerving and unnatural about the size of the swine and fish located at the slaughterhouse and docks respectively

they're huge

[amber harbor]

I understood that the event started in 1890 so I assumed it was all abandoned since then

[brave topaz]

well the hunters are in there at 1895 no?

if it were five years difference there's no chance in hell the swine nor the fish wouldn't of rotted away

nor the original residents who are very clearly quite dead, although still walking

which we can assume most of the grunts are due to the "themed grunts" being added in 1.0

so that presents the idea that the entity responsible for the event is also creating some kind of cease in decay

it's like one of those old scary stories where something is so unnatural even bacteria avoids it

[brave topaz]

like how there's something beyond the comprehension of the force of nature acting in the bayou, it's a terrifying concept really

[desert burrow]

is there a youtube playlist or a channel covering the Lore from A to Z? im only finding scraps here and there and its not enough 😦

[amber harbor]

@desert burrow theres a lore doc in the pinned messages

It has all the lore we have atm(-book of weapons)

[desert burrow]

perfect, thanks alot mate ❤

[forest condor]

@brave topaz remember that the events don't just take place at Lawson Delta and Stillwater bayou,

Event*

It pops up stuff everywhere in the area and these 1K swaths of land could be more recently infected

Also we don't know FOR SURE that the taxidermist took up house in that specific slaughterhouse

[sinful trout]

There have been events all over the globe. And @amber harbor it started in 1895

[forest condor]

We don't know that for sure

[slim hatch]

@forest condor actually we can fairly certainly say it started 1895

Due to Louisiana papers and Hunter’s desk

Many letters allude to “The happening in Louisiana “

Where different parties discuss the events in vague terms

Plus logically no way it could stay under wraps maybe longer that 1-2month

I’d say my bet would be 3 weeks from first affliction sighting

1st day aka day X first afflicted
2 weeks - escalation
3rd week - unrest (we see aftermath of it)
4th week - AHA’s involvement

[forest condor]

@slim hatch if that's teh case then we need to figure out how Vincent was able to use his bug powers in 1890

[slim hatch]

Bug aren’t locked down to just Louisiana

Aspects of sculptor are still just a theory

So it might be a common aspect

And due to “it seems like we have a sculptor on our hands” line

It means this type has happened before

5 years is a long time

[amber thicket]

Hi can you tell me guys where I can find more information about lore in Hunt?

[slim hatch]

Pinned posts

[amber thicket]

K

Ty

[slim hatch]

Np

[forest condor]

no i mean that he HAD the powers

oh i read the "A sculpter part"

hmmm

[forest condor]

@slim hatch so possibly the sculpters have tried to assult the area before and they left the assassin behind?

Also axeman theory holds up then

Cause we know the assassin was at work as far back as 1890

[ashen tartan]

Random question, is all this only happening in the SE US? With all the Russian guns involved I could see this easily being transferred over to some corner of Russia for an expansion or something.

[forest condor]

Events happen everywhere and Caldwell is importing guns alongside other smugglers

@ashen tartan

Also the devs have said that they're just covering this event for gameplay

But the lore is open to more than just this

[ashen tartan]

Ok, thank you.

[forest condor]

No feel free to drop in anytime

[ashen tartan]

Oh. But that was my main question. I haven't unlocked all the lore stuff yet so it'd be pointless for me to ask questions or discuss.

[forest condor]

There's a doc in the pinned messages with the entire Monstorvum as well as other lore @ashen tartan

[ashen tartan]

I saw. One day I'll read it.

Having too much fun poking bears over in suggestion atm.

[forest condor]

I feel ya :p

[ashen tartan]

Random question again.
I remember hearing about Hunt a couple years back and thinking it sounded interesting. I also seem to remember a trailer or some such with a big, black, shaggy monster with a bison-skull for a face or something. Anyone else remember anything like that? I was surprised by the bosses when I started playing because I didn't see what I remembered. Also I remember the big fight happening in a field, but obviously all the big fights happen in buildings now.

[shell pewter]

I think the butcher is in love with the Assasin

tbh

Is confirmed btw

Its canon now

[amber harbor]

@ashen tartan the boss in the bison head might have been the butcher, but he has a pig head

I remember the fight in the field too, only it was pvp

you might be referring to another one

[ashen tartan]

I might actually be remembering an article in Gameinformer. I looked up the trailers and don't remember them at all.

[sinful trout]

@ashen tartan if you can find that article it would be very helpful. As i think @slim hatch is also looking for it

@forest condor we know vincent hinself was at work in 1890, in human form. However first documented case of assasing was a few years later. Id peg it at around 1893-4

Read the assasin entry. Notice how he starts with1890. Then proceeds with "some time later" "about a year or so later" "eventually i found work"

[slim hatch]

@sinful trout Need to look into that case again

[sinful trout]

The newsletter?

[slim hatch]

Yes

Already sent off the message

[sinful trout]

understood

[forest condor]

i'm so proud of this community

[sinful trout]

uhh

[fickle pilot]

18 friendly People in the swamps of Louisiana wanting to collect bounties

[forest condor]

18 hot singles looking for bounties near you

[sinful trout]

meme somewhere else

[forest condor]

fine

[ashen tartan]

I only read the magazine so that might be hard but I'm looking.

[ashen tartan]

Yeah I dunno. Reading the first article on gameinformer's website about Hunt and it's very obviously talking about the spider. I discussed it with my friend though and he remember what I'm talking about as well so who knows.

All I can remember is multiple players, hunting monsters in the old West time period, tracking big monsters for a bounty, fighting minor monsters, something about a field, and a big black shaggy thing with an animal skull/mask.

Kinda like this but more of a blobby shape for the body.

[forest condor]

Hmm spooky

Sounds like the butcher

But maybe an early version

[ashen tartan]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking. The skull and horns is what I remember most. And the field. With the way the game flows though I doubt we'll ever have a boss fight in a field. Too easy for people to snipe from the doorway/wall.

[ashen tartan]

Lore question: Most of the enemies appear to be made out of humans. Is there a reason for this? For instance, the guy writing about the water devils repeatedly says he doesn't understand why they exist given a demon gator would be much more effective.

[rotund ferry]

Haha. I was just thinking last night how cool a demon gator that can snatch and grab you at the banks would be.

[ashen tartan]

"Though the logic (well, the assumed logic) of these creatures form and function may be twisted and strange, the Water Devil feels outside of that framework, like an experiment gone wrong. I cannot pinpoint its purpose for the larger organism, and I imagine that, for example, a monstrous, ravenous alligator, able to move both in water and on land, would have served its purpose more immediately.”

[amber harbor]

@ashen tartan The sculptor can only create from a base

it uses people to build its army

[ashen tartan]

Ok, so there's no lore reason why there can't be... I dunno, demon possums, right?

Asking out of curiosity is all.

[amber harbor]

we dont know if the sculptor can influence other animals, or to what extent

i guess hellhounds would be an example

but there was a mention of there being multiple entities at play

idk if its still canon

[brazen dove]

Mutated Demonic Ants

moving in hordes of 4-6

imagine if its in the game

[rotund ferry]

A mutated raven flock that patrols the map would be cool. Like cawing in the distance as an indicator they are coming, and you have to seek shelter or visual cover from them as the pass, lest they strike upon spotting a player.

Gator would definitely be cool. Walking on the banks and you hear a hiss and then something burst from the water, jaws agape. Of course obviously they would appear as log-ish blobs you could see in the water. I have many fond memories of the crocs doing a similar thing to what I described in Farcry Primal on unsuspecting npcs or even myself.

Or a “Nightmare” mutated horse.

I’m sure there are countless cool concepts.

[brazen dove]

Or a mutated raven flock that behave like regular crows

Then when you trigggered them, they will attack you until you seek refuge in a building

Or after a while

[sinful trout]

@ashen tartan perhaps youre thinking of HUNT : Horrors of The Guilded Age ?

Thats the only game i can imagine fighting in a field

[sinful trout]

rip

so no newsletter for us

[slim hatch]

Yes but we got the key Name and Key Quote

So unless it was also retconned

We have something to look into

[sinful trout]

theres tons of references to simon

i think one of the guns even mentions it

so i dont think it was retconned

[rotund ferry]

One of the cooler monster ideas is a snake, which is mentioned in the description of the 'Snake Seer' legendary crossbow

[ashen tartan]

@sinful trout Maybe but I doubt it. That was a top-down game I think.

[sinful trout]

Nope. Third person

[warm sequoia]

Found the vid

https://youtu.be/9MuKfi-FlKQ

30 seconds in about @ashen tartan

[forest condor]

nice

yeah it looks like the butcher is also a nod to that monster

like john hayward

[ashen tartan]

Das most definitely not it, though that looks pretty cool.

[forest condor]

hmm

[ashen tartan]

Who knows.

[formal fractal]

the giant croc, the voodoo lady

the armless screamer

all cool things

[rotund ferry]

Is that the gator in the top-right? Bipedal 🤔

[formal fractal]

he walks across the screen at the end

[rotund ferry]

Yeah that’s him

[opal notch]

Hey, do you think they should be adding new bosses? It would be cool to have more variety.

[formal fractal]

should? yes

will? yes

hotel? Trivago

[empty mesa]

The "armless screamer" looks like the shriekers from Divinity Original Sin 2

[forest condor]

lol new rules discourage religous discussion

guess we can't mention voodoo in here any more 😛

[formal fractal]

i dont think religious as part of the game

[forest condor]

it is :/

lorewise

theres a lot of tie-ins to religon

[formal fractal]

are you sure?

[forest condor]

there's a legendary hunter that's a priest

[formal fractal]

i would imagine they dont want us bickering over religious topics

[forest condor]

well yeah ofc, but it says religon is an "unwanted topic"

and i was memeing a bit that we coudn't talk about half the lore

[urban burrow]

Lore draws lots of parallels from things like voodoo ...Characters in the game reference religion regularly (due to so many Christians being apart of the population back then)

[forest condor]

yeah, while it plays a tetriary role it's still important

[warm sequoia]

Not trying to start anything but I can say with 90% certainty that the video I sent is what ur referring to. It’s so brief and it’s such an old vid it’s easy to misremember

[forest condor]

he was referencing an article iirc

but tbh that does look like what he was describing

[tepid hound]

Has anyone mentioned a vampire boss?

Is that completely out of context? It seems like it would suit the atmosphere well

[amber harbor]

Hunt has more eldrich monsters, there have been no mention of vampires

[rotund ferry]

I feel like vampires, like the werewolf suggestion don’t really match the dimensional influences in hunt

[formal fractal]

vamps and werewolves would be european themed i guess

or at the very least, transylvanian

[urban burrow]

Yeah eastern Europe. And no it does not fit the hunt theme at all

[dense junco]

A vampiric monster fits

Vampires don't

[urban burrow]

Yeah you could make a "vampiric" monster fit for sure. Just not a vampire as we know them

[forest condor]

and no heccing warewolves

[sinful trout]

I think for religious discussion they were talking about like theological discussion. Discussing religious tie ins with the lore i feel is fine. Here at least

[forest condor]

yeah i was memeing a bit and it got out of hand too quickly

[forest condor]

😦

@rancid needle this is not the suggestion channel, this is for discussion on lore

[rancid needle]

i thought the wendigo was part of the lore? I've seen snaps of such thing's so i thought the wendigo was already integrated within the lore hence is why i made my statement.

my apologies i worded my question incorrectly @forest condor

[forest condor]

it's not

but don't worry about it

[rancid needle]

@forest condor i gotchu

[sinful trout]

@rancid needle think of the bosses as less traditional "been here for centuries" "old folk lore" type stuff and think a little darker. Like 13 humans pushed together into one being forced to eat decayed and demented shit from a disease thats killing your own race.

Or someone who had outrageous powers, that turned to the dark influence of the sculptor

[rancid needle]

@sinful trout ohhh i gotchu , yeah i really need to sit down and plan it all out because the channels for ideas, these people go all out 😅

and thanks for explaining it too, know i at least now the direction as to what to come up with

[sinful trout]

@rancid needle yeah of course! Stick around too! Check out the pinned posts. We can all learn alot

[restive drift]

anybody knows something more about this man?

he have weird signals in his hands and wrists, maybe a kind of hunter or maybe a cultist before the apocalypse?

[brazen dove]

Wasn't most of the boss now is man-made kind? like the spider or butcher?

[slim hatch]

Read pinned posts

[sinful trout]

@restive drift he's in pinned posts

[restive drift]

I will search then, thx

[earnest jungle]

They did mention Vampires once during a QA where they said something along the lines of if they did do a vampire it would be sort of like a giant half human half mosquito monster. It was on the topic of how the names monster get are not always indicative of their actual natures.

[sinful trout]

@earnest jungle that was me and one of the old lore devs talking

[earnest jungle]

Ah

[sinful trout]

It was along the lines of what you call a mosquito, i call a vampire. They both fly they both suck blood

But neither of them are dracula

[earnest jungle]

I actually really like the whole Giant Mosquito thing. A Vampiric Monster of some kind would be really cool

Dracula would be fuckin stupid

[sinful trout]

I agree. If there was a vampire like monster. I would like it to be morphed from humans and bats that if it caused bleeding to the hunter, the boss wiuld heal for every point of damage dealt by bleed

[formal fractal]

bats could work

we got a spider, we got a butcher (pig), we got bugs

I was thinking of a humanoid boss with bat-like features. Leathery skin, started to grow wings, and here is the kicker, has a face like the black guy vampire from "from dusk till dawn"

that stuff was scary, still is

[forest condor]

We gotta think about what role that boss would serve

[formal fractal]

well, what roles do current bosses serve?

aside from being bosses? and having bounties?

or do you mean in a lore sort of way?

[forest condor]

Yeah a lore way

There was a theory that was discussed awhile ago about the names of the bosses and how the spider fits in

Gonna use the major theory tag for this next post so give me a sec to write it

Assassin: it's job is to assassinate hunters like seen in the lore books
Butcher: the brawn of this portion of the sculpter's army, does most of the physical damage.
Spider: cleans up parts of the infection that are going rogue```

[formal fractal]

Drinker: Drinks blood?

[forest condor]

Lol

[formal fractal]

i am unfortunately like 300 years behind the lore concepts on the game

so... yea...

[forest condor]

But for realzies, each boss holds a role in helping the sculpter

The assassin eliminates the real threats to it's creations, hunters.

The butcher would be great at eliminating local resistance and/or anything that requires physical strength

And the spider would be a failsafe for parts of the affliction that go rogue

[formal fractal]

so i think the drinker would be the sort of... spec ops?

brawn of the butcher can only do so much

cannons do exist, and every hunter with an axe can 8 shot a butcher

so his would be a sort of, infiltrate and destroy or rapid skirmishes or even just pick offs

too military?

Drinker: collects samples for the sculpter?

sculpter wants to make something with blood, needs a lot of it

[forest condor]

see that's writing in lore that doesn't make a whole lot of sense

cause the butcher has plenty of blood

like, lots of it because he has lots of human bodies

if he needed some then he'd have it

[formal fractal]

maybe he needs that blood in his soldiers?

they can't work without it

[forest condor]

actually...

from what we've seen he's replacing their blood with leeches....

for some reason

not completely comfirmed but it's using their bloodstream for something

also ingame the dogs bleed leeches a

and in the grunt text it says "Something wrong with the heart. Seems deformed (deformed' is scribbled through) spherical in form. Pulsing, but not pumping for lack of a better term. Even in death, it keeps on pulsing in a dark, sticky fluid"

and "The heart seems to be pumping some sort of nutritional fluid into the veins, which in return house tiny larvae. Is it pumping insects? Need samples.
"

[formal fractal]

"also ingame the dogs bleed leeches a" - hellhounds?

[forest condor]

yeah sorry hellhounds

[sinful trout]

@forest condor butcher is presumed to be a soul farmer like the meatheads

@formal fractal only thing i could see a vampire boss being good for in the long run? Is maybe just another assasin like soldier. Something that can heal itself instead of being a poopy bag of Hotpoints

[ashen tartan]

Recon? If it's a bat monster thing. Assassins need intel to do their job.

[ashen tartan]

Oh hey, here's the suggestion.

So wait, "soul farmer"?

[forest condor]

Yeah Meatheads

[ashen tartan]

I guess they're a lot more effective in lore than in game. They can't ever seem to find the people shooting them from my (limited) experience.

[wooden hound]

@forest condor. Was harold black the first encounter with the assassin or first documented encounter with the assassin?

[forest condor]

First documented one we have

[wooden hound]

Ah

[forest condor]

It dated back to 1890 iirc

[wooden hound]

Iirc?

[forest condor]

If I recall correctly

@ashen tartan they're blind and deaf

They rely on the leeches

[ashen tartan]

I thought they could hear?

[forest condor]

Nope

No head

[ashen tartan]

There's a tooltip thingy that says they rely on hearing and leeches for sight.

That's on live though so maybe it's old.

Loading screen blurb*

[wooden hound]

Arpy, it says juman host in monstvm

[forest condor]

Wat

[dense nova]

If a leech tags you they chase you for miles.

If you kill a leech, it runs to the location it died.

[forest condor]

Yeah in live they act differently than test

[ashen tartan]

Oh my. I always burn them first.

I heard the spider does as well.

I want to play on test but the lack of matchmaking.....

[forest condor]

Spider whats?

[ashen tartan]

Spider boss.

Acts differently.

[forest condor]

Yeah

But that's just agressioj behavious

The Meathead is a massive change

It senses posioned players

Which is cool imo

[ashen tartan]

Oh lawdy. So hive + meathead = bad times?

[forest condor]

Very bad times

[ashen tartan]

The poison xbox is useful!

[forest condor]

Yeah if you catch a team near a meathead

It's detection range is 20 meters I believe

[ashen tartan]

It's almost worth wasting hours just to get that one clip.

[forest condor]

Lol

Anyways I'm probably gonna hit the hay in a few minutes

Good talks

And happy hunting

[ashen tartan]

"Meathead bashes enemy team! SO OP!" Clickbait central.

[wooden hound]

When the butcher loses its head does it behave like a meathead

[ashen tartan]

Good night, sorry to annoy you so badly.

butcher?

[forest condor]

Don't worry about it, it kept me entertained :p

[ashen tartan]

I was excited for a new mob for a second there =/

[forest condor]

Also no it doesn't @wooden hound

Gonna answer this real quick

Butcher appears to be a much smarter meathead

No leeches

[ashen tartan]

(He's also on fire, dunno if you noticed)

[wooden hound]

Ik

[forest condor]

He swears a flamable oil

Sweats

Excretes*

[ashen tartan]

Isn't he a taxidermy thing though?

[forest condor]

Yeah

Which confused all of us here

[ashen tartan]

Are the meatheads also taxidermy?

[forest condor]

But I believe the sculpter just combined the butcher with his taxidermist

[ashen tartan]

Are we sure he's a meathead? I mean I know he's big and they're big but

Ah

[forest condor]

The Meatheads are what happens when an initiated huntress has a baby

Unbelievable power while pregnant

14 hunters dead on delivery

[formal fractal]

lore is pretty bleak

[urban burrow]

Notbot can you link that story?

[ashen tartan]

Seems like it. Every time a group of hunters gets mentioned (so far) everybody dies except the writer.

[forest condor]

It's in the pinned posts

[wooden hound]

I find it interesting

[forest condor]

The big doc

Meathead lore

[formal fractal]

interesting? sure

[urban burrow]

I'll check thanks I missed that

[forest condor]

Np

Thing is that's why they banned female hunters

But they came out with a new serum so yehaw you're steeil

Sterile

[ashen tartan]

On the one hand, putting a group of super physically fit people together tends to lead to sexy times. On the other, they're hunting demons and have seen some messed up stuff. I wonder how often that was a problem.

[formal fractal]

seeing the amount of meatheads

[urban burrow]

Sex also comes up alot when it not sure if you will have it again

[formal fractal]

like 1 per compound i guess

[forest condor]

That's one way we know Meatheads are made

For all we know there's other ways

[formal fractal]

im sure if i went in with a blacklight to a compound, it would look like a Pollock Painting

[forest condor]

Maybe even just regular hunters screwing uninitiated women

Since they're not sterile

Anyways I'm gonna take my leave now, good night all and Happy hunting

[ashen tartan]

Good night.

[formal fractal]

Good night

[ashen tartan]

I think it's on page 51 of the pdf

[urban burrow]

I've bee. Frickin searching for so long lol

[ashen tartan]

Yeah, this is def it. It's the MEathead entires.

[urban burrow]

Thanks

[ashen tartan]

yar

[urban burrow]

I passed right over it

[ashen tartan]

Well that was suitably horrifying.

[urban burrow]

Agreed was a good read thanks for finding it for me I was about to give up

[wind saffron]

After (or with) 1.0 release, are we gonna see the story advance or learn more about plot? I know there is book of weapons but is something beyond that being planned? Are there gonna be some updates on lore and story later on? Maybe through DLC?

[amber harbor]

No dlc as far as I know

[formal fractal]

could happen though

[amber harbor]

We'll likely get lore through skins and the bow entries

The story is supposed to remain ambiguous so it retains the mysterious atmosphere

[sinful trout]

@ashen tartan sorry ive been away.
@forest condor why do you say its deaf? Last time i heard a dev said they could hear
Butcher was not comvined with its taxidermist because its taxadermist was named auriel daunnoy and he was found dead on the road to stillwater bayou, barely discernable. Only noticable mark that let them know it was hin was his glass eye.

@ashen tartan yeah recon could be a thing. Didnt think about that.

Soul farmer is probably farming the souls of the civillians it kills.
@urban burrow theres a document outline. Meathead is one of those marks

[sinful trout]

oh and it seems its only pregnant initiated women as "the blood" manifests itself as teh creature. so i dont think it matters about uninitiated women

because mr kinney was a hunter before his wife was. then he initiated hannah into the orginization... and im pretty sure they did the dirty before he initiated them

[urban burrow]

That is how it seemed to me also

[forest condor]

@sinful trouti swear I heard somewhere it coudnt hear

[sinful trout]

id love to know where

[forest condor]

Me too

:(

[sinful trout]

did you hear it or read it?

that might narrow it down

[forest condor]

Read it I think

[sinful trout]

qna?

[forest condor]

And I swear that In the 1.0 devstreams they mentioned it

When talking about Meathead changes

Cause in test server the Meathead is attracted to posion and instead of just screaming leeches release a posion burst into the air

[sinful trout]

hmmm

[formal fractal]

test meathead is blind right?

[sinful trout]

i didnt think so

if youre poisoned he knows where you are

but in the traditional sense

yes

[forest condor]

He don't got eyes tho

[sinful trout]

hes blind

hes always been blind

this "deaf" thing is news to me

[formal fractal]

i know about poison and he can see when you are

[sinful trout]

because he reacts to the leeches screaming

[formal fractal]

the Live meathead can see though

[forest condor]

He has no eyes yet he must see

Live Meathead can't ss

See

[sinful trout]

live meathead cannot see no

[forest condor]

But I think live Meathead could hear a little bit

Or at least acted like it

[formal fractal]

live meathead is better at tracking things around him

[sinful trout]

they can both hear

[formal fractal]

just from personal experience

[forest condor]

Well yeah they changed aggro behavior

"Meathead will now take a more believable path when alerted" or something like tbat

@sinful trout found it

Well a new version

Developer note:

The rework to the meathead allows us to truly play into the fact that he is blind and cannot hear anything. The leeches will now act as scouts that will broadcast the players’ position to the parent Meathead when they screech. The Meathead, however, will be able to sense players that have been poisoned, making him a very dangerous target when in a poisoned state. Players can also poison other players when they are sneaking past a meathead to aggro the monster.

This is from the patch notes

"he is blind and cannot hear anything"

[formal fractal]

makes sense

no head, no ears, no eyes

[forest condor]

No nose :(

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[sinful trout]

dope

[forest condor]

Ywp

Yep

Knew I read it somewhere else too but that's all I got rn

[wooden hound]

@forest condor how do hunters gain their traits?

[forest condor]

so the general concensus among us was that they're skills

and as you do more you get more skilled

like you learn fanning or

stuff like that

now we don't really understand stuff like conduit

my personal theory is Clues have a connection to a wellspring but that's far from comfirmed

[wooden hound]

Do you guys think the hunter with scratches on his face will appear more in lore.

[forest condor]

which hunter was that?

[wooden hound]

@forest condor he appeared in the water devil monstrvm

[forest condor]

ahhh

[wooden hound]

Arpy said the spider has a little girls eye in Dr. Reeds interview it says...

[timid badger]

Alrighty... just noticed this. I just put up the Hunter's Desk wallpaper, because it is fancy and looks good on my monitors... but I noticed something on there I didn't see until the image was larger. These are illustrations of the Goetic Demons*, except the one with the fancy Hunt symbol on it. Is our major evil force here supposed to be demon related?

*Dictionnaire Infernal, not all of the Demons are from the Ars Goetia

[wooden hound]

@timid badger the sculptor supposedly made the spider,assassin, and butcher so yes, the major evil force is demon related I believe.

[timid badger]

Cool 😃 there are loads of myths they could draw from for an evil force. I like that they went the demon route, those are named things. Every demon on that page has a specific name and even sigil, except for the marked one, which I can't find in any of my stuff... or I just can't clearly see the image.

[forest condor]

@timid badger it's more lovecraftian/eldrich demons rather than classical religous demons

[timid badger]

@forest condor , upon closer investigation and discussion with @wooden hound , we have concluded the Hunt stamped image is a hellhound. The original image still didnt contain the Belzebuth picture... but he was known as the Lord of Flies which i think was mentioned earlier.

[forest condor]

looks likda like a hellhound

[wooden hound]

He just joined today.

We compared the two and came to the conclusion that it was, indeed, a hellhound.

[forest condor]

yee

looks like one of the images i remember of teh heckhounds

[forest condor]

yep there it is

[wooden hound]

Pose, and, ground

[forest condor]

good job with that

that looks pretty accurate

[wooden hound]

I diddn't draw it.

[forest condor]

no i mean the conclusion was accurate

[timid badger]

so... given that info, and where i got the original image from the wall paper, there is only 1 other alteration to the image they used. and that is to add Belzebuth to the picture. Just so happens he is a devil, known as the Lord of the Flies

Our sculptor has a name

believe it is mentioned earlier by a Scognamiglio fellow.

[wooden hound]

@timid badger Any reference? What Monstrvm page?

[timid badger]

It is quoted earlier in this channel... think it is about the spider

[bold tiger]

The lore is still patchwork at best right? We know clues are unstable portals but do we know if the monsters actually come from them or is it more "bad energy" that does

[forest condor]

we have a general idea of the events and are piecing more as more info comes along

[bold tiger]

Nothing close to a cause or explanation yet

[forest condor]

the cause is the sculpter

the explination for why is that it wants something

we probably have the clues to get a better idea but just havn't figured it out yet

[bold tiger]

Probably wants to clap alien cheeks.

[forest condor]

plz no

[bold tiger]

Or maybe humans are alien to it

And it wants to clap hunter ass

[marble canopy]

explains the thicc hunters

[forest condor]

😛

[bold tiger]

Thats why the armoreds and grunts always do halfassed slaps

Say do we have any list of the weapon lore started

Becuase I think it hints at new weapons being added

[wooden hound]

@timid badger

This is the reference from the monstrvm

[marble canopy]

Thats the worst crop ever

[wooden hound]

@marble canopy i didnt really try lol

[rotund ferry]

Lord of the flies🤔

[wooden hound]

[forest condor]

beazulbub has been mentioned before from texts

[wooden hound]

Baalzebub means spider.

[tacit thorn]

Why are there no Bats in Hunt?

[sinful trout]

@wooden hound its also a name for the devil in haitian creole

@tacit thorn what do you mean

there are bats in hunt

one scene only though

look at immolator reveal vid

we think theyll add more soon

[warm sequoia]

given that we know ritual blood has the ability to make strong monsters like the meathead, maybe a vampiric bosses role would be obtaining more ritual blood for the sculptor

could explain why so many meatheads exist

[sinful trout]

ritual blood is an aha thing

[warm sequoia]

and you could say any of the monsters could get blood if they kill a hunter but they arent sucking it they are spilling it

yes it is

thats why the sculptor would need a monster to obtain it

it would suck it out of initiated hunters veins

[forest condor]

@warm sequoia why would the sculpter need to kill hunters to obtain it? Chances are we get the ritual blood from it's creations

[sinful trout]

why would sculptor need ritual blood?

[forest condor]

Also why would it need the blood? The main use for the invitation blood is darksight, and the main use for darksight is seeing the sculpter's influence in the clues and boss

[sinful trout]

precisely

i dont see why the sculptor would even need the blood

[warm sequoia]

the blood caused the creation of the meathead

it clearly has the potential to create powerful creatures

and if we get the blood from its creations than why cant it make strong creatures like the meathead on its own

strong non boss creatures*

[sinful trout]

the meathead seems like it was a mistake more tha]n anything

i doubt the sculptor wants the blood. it imo would have no use for it

[sinful trout]

as

[brave topaz]

i concur with Var'uun, bit late to throw in on this but The Sculptor would also need a living host for the creation of these creatures, we've seen it in the Water Devils and the Meathead, so far The Sculptor is NOT able to create life, only reanimate and alter, and when it's influence is introduced to the human body, (via parasitic organisms or even procreation) there is often a violent reaction in which a creature is spawned, which we can see again from the two previously referenced monsters.

this theory also goes off of the idea that grunts are actually deceased when they become grunts

So in essence the sculptor doesn't require the blood in particular, but it appears that the Hunters may already be slightly corrupted by its influence and more prone to change when new factors are introduced, as a standard grunt simply becomes a vessel for the Sculptors influence a Hunter does not, A hunter already "belongs" to the Sculptor per se and thus cannot be changed further. But when the hunter has other more simpler life within themselves they are prone to violent and dangerous change. So to overcomplicate it with metaphors i think that normally, the Sculptor's influence is like a bowl of water, it can be smashed, spilt or knocked and the water will fall out, however a Hunter has exposed themselves to the Sculptor, they have made themselves greater but given themselves vulnerability where it wasn't before; A hunter is more akin to a cracked dam.

It also explains why dead hunters don't turn, they aren't truly dead and can't be killed without being utterly destroyed much like the Sculptor's other creatures, they reform.

idk it's hard to string this all together without going wildly off topic but skim reading you might understand what i'm trying to say

[forest condor]

...spider begs to differ

which is confusing

because it talks baout hunters burying the dead only to fight for them later

and the spider being made out of the corpses of the 13 people

[brave topaz]

Ah i have a theory about that too

The spider is a minion of The Sculptor

The Sculptor WANTS The Spider to roam free, it allows it to resurface

[forest condor]

they're all minions of the sculpter

[brave topaz]

a hunter, when killed permanently goes to "quickplay" where they battle other hunters to regain themselves

ah but the Sculptor does not have complete control over the Hunters

[forest condor]

quickplay actually doesn't involved dead hunters

it involves hunters who are close to a wellspring fighting for it so they can do at least two thing

1. not die in the ensuing "cataclysmic event"
2. regenerate from the "damnation" caused from darksight

[brave topaz]

hang on wait wait

back to your original point

ik i'm wrong there sorry

but either way the spider reforms

[forest condor]

so does the butcher and assassin

all bosses come back

[brave topaz]

as do hunters

but with some urging

[forest condor]

hunters don't they just die

they can be sculpted as well though

[brave topaz]

when killed

[forest condor]

if they spend too much time in the dead zone bad stuff begins to happen

[brave topaz]

ah

i've not heard of that

[forest condor]

i believe it's in the meathead lore

and in the qna

[brave topaz]

either way the hunters' bodies act a kind of catalytic host, the Sculptor can and probably would create things like the meathead and water devil

[forest condor]

the water devils are parasitic worms (bloodworms iirc) and meatheads are the result of concepting inside of a initiated female hunter

[brave topaz]

I'm aware, but they first appeared after consuming the flesh of an initiated

both creatures were created because they had an initiated host

well

possibly

[forest condor]

the water devils were seen coming from the hunters because they ate a piece of meat infested with them

[silent garden]

good guys where can I leave my complaint about a random player I hope they put where they can report to your own random partner because there are times when you enter and you are killed from nowhere without any reason, another reason you enter a game but when you go the boss and they are not going there anymore they stay as if they are racing and other teams arrive and I have to kill everyone alone and Uncle Namas gets scared when he hears shots and runs away to the extraction above was level 100 the guy and had a mosin and shotgun caldwell argg as frustrates that there are those types of fearful people and others who kill you for no reason why I prefer to put mode alone and tell me about the randoms duo, thank you very much for your attention and if you see a guy called (Hunter) that's the guy who literally abandoned me ....

[brave topaz]

but i don't think they were waterdevils originally is what i'm saying

@silent garden Wrong channel

[forest condor]

what gives you that idea

[brave topaz]

Ok, so the worms that infested the meat are parasitic, we can assume that they'd been there for a while, long enough to develop a colony

[silent garden]

And in which serious channel can you explain to me?

[forest condor]

this is the lore channel, not the complain about random partners channel,

go to #hunt-general or something

[brave topaz]

digestion occurs over the process of a few hours, the decomposition of the meat over a few days

this all points to the idea that when the parasites entered the hunters bodies, they began to consume their flesh, initiated flesh which caused a sudden change

[forest condor]

more likely it was a attack method used where they infest and kill anything they come into contact with

[brave topaz]

i doubt it

[forest condor]

not to mention their behavious was to immediately get into the water

which doesn't make sense if they weren't able to already inhabit it

[brave topaz]

Ah you see, the original creature's life cycle may have began in the water

[forest condor]

not to mention there's literally no precident for initation blood to cause that type of change in animals

or anything else

[brave topaz]

but the thing is the sudden change when exposed to hunter's tissue doesn't make any sense

[forest condor]

which is why it makes more sense that there was no sudden change

the water devils just ate their way through the bodies and back to the water

[brave topaz]

it's not like water devils have any opportunity to get inside of meat based products let alone pork

[forest condor]

it wasn't a product

it was a wormy piece of discareded meat

[brave topaz]

by "product" i refer to any piece of tissue originating from an animal

[forest condor]

it could have plenty of opportunity

depending on how the worms move

or how they breeed

[brave topaz]

ok, so there's one area in which the worms could've infected meat

the fishing industry

if they function the way you claim they do

however since the worm's appearance all fishing in the area has ceased

all life in the water has too

the water is completely dead

[forest condor]

again, depends on if they breed

[brave topaz]

there is nothing in there but the devils

[forest condor]

all we've seen ingame are mature water devils

how not if they breed

if their lifecycle has them living on land at all then they'd be perfect

not to mention that the sculpter makes it's minions specifically to target people

the spider being a good example, built in a way as to strike fear into people