They're all sculpter
#lore-discussion
forest condor
All that we see in the bayou is sculpter
While it tends to lean towards incects there is no reason to believe that it's soley that seeing as the lore guys have confirmed that aspects aren't really a thing
digital trail
Do you have links to that confirmation? I'd love to read through their thoughts if so
forest condor
It's in the qna iirc
old kite
Someone said it before, I think we are taking something that was assumed in the letter as fact. I think there is a high possibility of different entities that are responsible for different grunts.
forest condor
What makes you think that?
There's no reason the sculpter can't be responsible for everything
sinful trout
Because they said that there are multiple entities at play in the louvent @forest condor
grand wind
@forest condor sry i started this, im kinda noob in disc
forest condor
Nahh you're good
earnest jungle
Butchers, Meatheads, and Immolators don’t follow the same rules as the other creatures because they were not intentionally created by the Sculptor. My theory is that what ever allows hunters to use Darksight gives them a connection to the Sculptor. But this connection is slowly corrupting them. Which would explain the strange damage on high tier hunters and would explain why many hunters see themselves as damned souls.
The Meathead, and thus the Butcher, were born of the corrupting influence of the Sculptor upon the fetus of a Huntress. And I think the Immolators are former hunters who were damned hunters unable to save their souls. In quick play when you loose you start burning. And Immolators being former hunters would explain why they attack other monsters as well as hunters when agro-ed.
This would also explain why the Sculptor seems indifferent to hunters using the dark sight. It’s slowly corrupting them and no matter what they do they won’t be able to save everyone. There’s only so many wellsprings and only one person can be saved per well.
forest condor
.......
We know that darksight gives you a connection to the entities
We know that when you use darksight you give something up each time and we know thats why the their three hunters have strange damage
Immilators can't be damned hunters since we know that the Monstorvum immilator was just a guy who combusted
Meathead is a byproduct of the sculpter's influence since it's gaining influence over the baby and eventually killing the mother from within
The sculpter probably doesn't want the hunters using darksight since they're killing it's afflicted
forest condor
@random lava could you pin this?
stiff vector
forest condor
The voynich
rotund ferry
where'd that come from?
forest condor
❤️ you fab
It was given to us awhile ago
It's basically a 1 to 1 cipher for symbols
rotund ferry
OH AWESOME
forest condor
If you see symbols chances are it's their voynich
forest condor
I...don't know
earnest jungle
Do we know for certain that the guy who combusted wasn't a hunter?
forest condor
He wasn't a wellspring hunter that's for sure
Have you read the memo?
It's on their website under stley
Story
I think it was called "a communique to all hunters"
amber harbor
But we need to remember that those entries are collected by the 'present day' researcher
so he might not know everything
forest condor
There's not much left out of the written account
halcyon musk
bro what if the hunters are delusional, and they are killing random people
amber harbor
we have access to quickplay and we know the animation for losing
rotund ferry
so is fortnite a video game in hunt showdown?
earnest jungle
Take it to Of-topic boys
earnest jungle
Take it to off-topic
The Lore Describes Reverend Jeremy Byrne as being the first Immolator and speculates that his beating must have occurred in a volatile location. It also speculates that the religious factions of the AHA may have been onto something with the Immolator.
I just can't shake the feeling that there has to be a connection between the Immolators, the Wellspring, and the Damnation of Hunters.
The wellsprings are described as being volatile in the Communique so maybe that's where Reverend Byrne was killed.
digital trail
Honestly, Immolators being the end result of a corruption is a great theory
Hunters that overextended themselves and failed to find a wellspring being a possible source of Immolators works really well.
forest condor
Thing is we know what happens after a wellspring collapses
A catlysmic event occurs where every damned soul in the area dies
jolly karma
What happens to the bodies?
forest condor
They ded
earnest jungle
But maybe they don’t stay Dead...
And the Butcher, Grunt, and Armored Entries in the Monstorum all seem to indicate that these creatures don’t stay dead. The heart of the grunt continued to pump, the Armored’s Aromor continued to grow, and the Butcher is a taxidermied meat head!
silent harbor
true but the hunters die normally therefore i dont fucking know
split dawn
Why didn’t the military try to get involved
earnest jungle
Could be top Military Brass are members of the AHA.
amber harbor
They can't survive without getting 'infected'
We now know that the sheriff hunter fought the corruption, preventing its spread before becoming a hunter to further help the cause
sinful trout
@amber harbor wait what?
Is there really a lot of lore in these legendary hunters that i missed?
sinful trout
placid wolf
all I know is that we got some bounties to banish
random lava
sinful trout
You, hunter
I love you
I thought you were no longer mod as your name showed up blue for me
I panixked
I couldnt find an adult bc i always rely on you 😂
forest condor
Woman who birthed the meathead that became the butcher was dummy thicc and therefore the butcher is dummy thicc
random lava
here is an unofficial voynic font made by fabfab 
forest condor
@rotund ferry
earnest jungle
@sinful trout During the live stream on their YouTube channel there are some small snippets of lore for each of the legendary hunters. Which shall be covered in greater detail in the Book of Weapons.
sinful trout
yeah i just had someoen send them to me
read them all
so of all these entries one thing becomes clear from a previous qna
we asked what happens to people that witness these events
killed, murdered or inducted
they responded with sometimes
so now we know sometimes inducted
unsure still of murdered
forest condor
Some definitely murdered
It's the AHA
If they can't help your cause....can't let them hurt it
jolly karma
Does the AHA still exist as of 2019? Do these events?
forest condor
we do not know
amber harbor
Its a modern day researcher researching the louvent
Based on the fact that the AHA have existed for a long time I assume that they are still around
sinful trout
I would also assume this @amber harbor unless there was an event that stopped all incidents entirely.
amber harbor
even so it would make sense to keep a lookout
you never know with all these lovercraftian demons
sinful trout
Lol
quick prism
so is the spider(not physically but "mentally" or "personality-wise") an amalgamation of the people that merged into it, one of the persons(the face) or did some entity like the one taking up residence in the butcher do the same here? 🤔
amber harbor
we know nothing about how the mental plane works in the event
warm sequoia
i checked the lore doc and its possible i just missed it but do we have any lore on the locations from the louvent? Specifically im trying to figure out where lawson delta is supposed to be. It always reminded me of florida but i know the event was in louisiana
i've never been to louisiana so maybe the two states look similar
amber harbor
It's supposed to be Louisiana
that's why it's called the LOUvent
but I don't think Lawson is supposed to be anywhere in particular
forest condor
@warm sequoia the south looks like the rest of the south
I was in South Carolina and it felt like lousiana
warm sequoia
i guess that makes sense, all the new england area states feel the same to me too
sinful trout
god damn @forest condor you started a thing by calling it the louvent
split dawn
I noticed that their are trenches near the fort is that because the army put up the fight or did the people try to fight of the zombies and stuff
earnest jungle
People probably did hide there... and likely died there...
Or since the area has trains they got on the trains and tried to escape.
forest condor
People probably didn't use it as a stronghold against the affliction
It's nowhere near protected enough and it's in various stages of disrepair
amber harbor
@sinful trout Louvent is mentioned in the first lore book
sinful trout
Like as a saying? Mind linking that?
noble vine
idk if you guys get any info out of this
sinful trout
None
Similar photo in liberty aresenal
Posted it a while back but no one had answers
split dawn
Who were some of the best hunters
split dawn
USA USA USA
cloud socket
Chill, USA isn't that great
neat mica
So the Louisiana Event. What exactly is preventing it from just expanding indefinitely. Is it that the malignant force can only manifest into a localized area and its influence tapers off past a point, or is there an active secret quarantine of the area?
digital trail
as far as I understand it, it's a roadside picnic situation
where the force has come and gone already and we're just dealing with the aftershocks and what it left behind
forest condor
That's in no way what it is
languid bough
We don't really know why they can't/don't move away. What we know is that the ennemy come from another dimension. They could stay in Lousiana because they can't move far away from the point of passage between our world. Or because their work here aren't finished yet. Also we have rumors that similar event occurs across the world.
sinful trout
@forest condor we dont know what it is so it very well could be that
sinful trout
Main circulating theory @neat mica is that the entity came into our world and is still here. But his power is limited so he can only influence one area at a time. But we honestly dont know why it doesn't spread
languid bough
I think, and it's only a theory, that the entity and its underling need to be close to a portal to stay in our world. And that's why they stay in Louisiana. Without this link they can't retain their physical form, or staying here.
Oh but the thing about the assassin spying is us show me that I'm wrong x)
forest condor
We know that the entity is still in the area because the affliction is still moving in waves, reading the grunt lore in the Monstorvum we see the narrator fearing that the darkness is moving again. This points to a sort of wave system that only makes sense if the entity is still here
neat mica
interesting
yeah i just recently read that assassin entry
is the implication with the assassin that it was originally a human that slowly came under the corruption, or that it was an otherworldly entity masquerading as a human, and the mask kept slipping over time?
sinful trout
@rotund ferry where did they say its 2 days away? My readings lead me to believe that it was a way to preserve human bodies, not increase pain tolerance. Mind linking where you read that?
sinful trout
Yeah they said it was nearing perfection! I wasnt sure if u had something i didnt wheb u said 2 days
split dawn
What was the process like for the assassin to turn
forest condor
we have no idea yet
sinful trout
@split dawn how do you know he turned?
Perhaps he was always this way?
Perhaps hes not even human
We wont know for a while
All we know about the assasin
Is that its extremely powerful and unlike the spider, its main goal is to kill hunters
And that in its human form it was able to split off and walk down different paths
With lore we have to think not just outside the box, but inside, around it and through it. We need to consider all aspects possible until more evidence arises
split dawn
@neat mica said that it was a human but turned into the assassin after being corrupted
Oh okay
sinful trout
We dont know anything about it. We know its human name, vincent corscia. And in his human form he us able to shoot blades, summon beetles onto his foes, scale walls and split into different forms
Harold blacn accounted for all of these, hell, vincent even taught harold how to shoot. But after his party was murdered single handedly by vincent (who was harolds best friend), he swore revenge. He tracked down the assasins next location and began to make his way towards it. But harolds men stopped him and declared him a valuable research asset they cluldnt afford to lose.
If you have time i would read the entire assasin entry on the doc i put together. Its in the pinned messages @split dawn
split dawn
Okay thx man
rigid relic
Wait question I’m reading the entries and I’m confused did the butcher just come to life or something? And was it originally a Meathead?
sinful trout
Its definately related to it
And yeah
It has no blood
No guts
But it just came to life
Dont know why
sinful trout
Assasin IS HUMAN
I think
Its confusing
We know the assasin when it was human had all its abilities
Red further up fore more info
Read*
rigid relic
Question what part do I read if I wanna understand how this whole thing started?
sinful trout
Uhhh
Good question
How DID al this start?
Entity came from other dimension
How it got here? WHO KNOWS
how the infection/affliction spread? WHO KNOWS
rigid relic
I’m just curious cause my assumption was the Assassin is a monster that can disguise itself as a human but that would assume the entity specifically made it and not that a human turned into it
sinful trout
We know that there are many entities begind the louvent
We also know that these entities are indirectly/directly responsible for the bosses and monsters
quick prism
swamp inbreds diddled their cousins too hard and spawned the zombie virus
they wanted to produce the habsburg chins
forest condor
Something like that
sinful trout
@rotund ferry i havent seen any
forest condor
@rotund ferry there are several in-map clues such as posters and some letters under a bed in fort carmick
@sinful trout come on man, you've transcribed several posters that revealed parts of the monstorvum
forest condor
" As each creature originates from one particular person that is then trapped in that cycle"
this is a really important line i got from the qna
so yeah only female hives, and only male grunts. that sort of thing
sinful trout
I thought he was refferring to the actual in game map
Like marks that a hunter places
Or notes
In game lore bits? Oh hell yes. Theres posters that hinted at future lore and lore about what happened there. Not to mention the various letters in different places like at fort mccarmack theres letters in a bunk that are addressed TO a soldier from his romantic partner asking about him, all letters seem to be unanswered, followed by a report stating that "the documents can be forged" i believe these are documents saying that this soldier is dead and sending them to his partner. Then that soldier could continue an operation.
From scratches on the walls to blatant corpses, theres a ton in game
For example we know the last civillian to die in the stillwater bayou
Hes in pitching crematorium next to a lamp. His body is barely decomposed
Then there's the antivenom poster in lawson signifying that the civillians (except for william salter) believed that it was influenza taking people over
forest condor
lol it's gud
but yeah that's a list that just scratches the surface
there's so much to find in-world
sinful trout
Oh yeah. Theres a delorean that SIGH TECHNICALLY fits the lore as doc and Marty could have time traveled there.when they went back to 1890's
forest condor
remember
the AHA DID NOT mess with time travel
and the infestations are all Doc Brown's fault because he ripped portals through time and space
also why does that sound almost feasable
please no cryterc
sinful trout
Its just a huge kek gow they fit that into the lore
You KNOW they did it to fuck with us
forest condor
yeah
its just mean
also, since this is supposed to be a very impactful incident
coudn't it be feasable to say this went on for 20ish years making the axeman thing make sense?
sinful trout
Thats a long time for an event to go on unnoticed
I think the reason its impactful is that the contracts reapwan. I dont think they could in the past
forest condor
hmm
earnest jungle
It's entirely possible the Axe Man is apart of another smaller incident, or is just a regular old human serial killer.
amber harbor
The fact that armoreds can now open doors might mean a change in lore
forest condor
check the monstorvum
bold tiger
Were you in general when the stream was on?
sinful trout
developments as in new finds? other than legendary hunters not that ive seen
been trying to recruit reddit lore people into the chat
bold tiger
Darn
mellow wind
So how did the plague start exactly?
amber harbor
we don't really know
It is caused by a portal between dimensions transporting an entity into our world
then everything got fucked up
bold sail
amber harbor
it's not a plague per say
rotund ferry
So these monsters that we do fight were all once human?
I would normally scroll up to find my answers, just call me lazy I suppose.
amber harbor
yes
an entity we call the sculptor came to our world and started corrupting the louisiana
this is just one event of many
according to voudou, the human body is made up of soul and physical body
the sculptor messes with the soul and the body keeps working, even if it decomposes
devout cedar
@bold sail Focus on game 
forest condor
I got so hung up on the fact that you spell it voudou
amber harbor
wha
forest condor
but yeah you covered everything pretty good
except, doesn't the sculptor mess with the body and disconnect the soul?
vast tide
Does anyone know the origin of Darksight, or how the hunters can use that ability?
I know it's not intrinsic from dark await but didn't see anymore lore about it so
amber harbor
theres a biologic component to it
we don't know how they get it, but it is most likely it is passed down in the family
Hunters undergo an initiation ritual which involves taking a serum to give them the ability to channel dark sight
it also protects them from the influence of the sculptor, but only for 1 hour
ds is a link with the demon world and can be activated by reciting some sort of incantation (the whispers you hear when using dark sight)
vast tide
@amber harbor Thanks for reply, Is there any more lore or story about ds? would love to read about it
amber harbor
there's bits and pieces dotted around all the lore
forest condor
Wasn't it said that there's a serum they use to gain access to it
amber harbor
tho the meathead entries hold a lot of lore on ds
sinful trout
Okay so the serum is completely mysterious
We dont know anything about it
Many theorize that its the antidote shot
But other theories lead to believe its something else entirely
And the whole zombies are people with a disconnected soul. Thats a theory. Not a fact.
A HEAVILY BACKED THEORY. But a theory none the less
forest condor
If only the couple had known to use the new serum in their initiation rite. As you know, women are welcome among our ranks today, as the latest serum - the very serum that allows us to walk among the infected and that gifts us with the Sight
sinful trout
Its based off the ti bon ange and the gros bon ange
Gros bon ange being the body
Ti bon ange being the soul
forest condor
It's a serum that is used during initiation that allows hunters access to darksight, and stops them from being afflicted
sinful trout
We know three things about the serum
forest condor
Four
sinful trout
Its used to grant darksight, it stops them from being infected and it prevents conception
Enlighten me on the fourth
forest condor
It's used during initiation, it gives darksight, it helps stop hunters from being afflicted, its a contraceptive
The fact that it's used during initiation shouldn't be discounted since it disproves the antidote shot theory
forest condor
"If only the couple had known to use the new serum in their initiation rite. As you know, women are welcome among our ranks today, as the latest serum - the very serum that allows us to walk among the infected and that gifts us with the Sight"
It says that the serum is used during the initiation rite
sinful trout
That doesnt say they have to though
Its implied
But not fact
Think of it like a vaccine
SHOULD be taken
But optional none thelesd
Im in agreement with you dont get me wrong
I think its used during initiation
But thats my own thoughts
Its nit fact
Dont forget people dont hsve to go through aha to initiate
Jist like people dont need hospitals to give birth
plz no antivax kinney jokes
amber harbor
I see it as the serum slows down progress of the sculptor on hunters
that's the reason of the 1 hour time frame
tho idk what's the deal with all the non affected people lasting longer
sinful trout
Me neither. Bc in armored journal. "Its a sure death to stay more than an hour in the huntinf grounds" but in water devil entry "they were walking the bayou for hours"
amber harbor
maybe they bring a pack of serums along?
but it doesn't explain the civilians being unaffected
also how do we know who the last guy to die in stillwater is?
forest condor
They could have walked out of the dead zone
sinful trout
the hunting grounds?
then why would jonas and gator bother following them
why not just track the target with the competition away
devout cedar
Do we have monstvm 100% completed? and where can i read it
sick vault
devout cedar
@sick vault Thanks
jade cape
slim hatch
Owwwww
sinful trout
Ping
slim hatch
I think they are literally covering just the lore we collected
If you want i can look into it when i've time if i've time
I've spent more time in my car, meeting rooms and other cities past 2 weeks than at home
Adult life sucks i want to be 16 again
slim hatch
okay
sinful trout
Yeah skim it. If you catch something we dont know mark it and keep skimming
slim hatch
I'll do a quick one
slim hatch
@jade cape Utebja tam malenkaja oshibka 1895 Na4alo incidenta nebolshaja popravka mi ne znaim to4no kogda imenno etot incident na4ilsja + Ti propustil v toi 4aste moment i upominanija 4to eto ne pervoi ne poslednii incident v Istorii Hunt-Verse. Na Eng vopros nemnogo dlinneje poskoku pe4ataju paralelno s tvoim video
Translation for the rest: You've a small mistake you say 1895 is start of the incident which actually we can't say for sure we only know that we are there in 1895 + You never mention that it's one of the many that has happened before and after. Also you formulate the "Organizations that have probably existed for hundreds of years collect like-minded people to fight the evil posessing Louisiana" Which again is kinda wrong because AHA and many others have existed long before Louisiana.
Can't call them big mistakes but small hiccups
slim hatch
Yeah
sinful trout
For example my ownl belief leads me to believe one happened in turkey since sinan himself is a turkish muslim, doesnt seem like the type to go out and seek violence so perhaps the sinners were in turkey at one point hunting something.
For new people: thats a theory. Please dont take it as fact
slim hatch
There are mis-translations
In a lot of texts he reads
Most of the context is right but some small details are off
sinful trout
But its nothing we dont already know, yes?
slim hatch
@jade cape Da tvoi perevodi nemnogo lomajut context traktovki. Ne silno obshiju kartinu pokranimere do 8-oi minuti obrisouvaish pravilno v obshih terminah
Yeah
So far everything we know he is just covering it
And not very accurate
sinful trout
Yikes
sinful trout
http://www.thecannachronicles.com/the-portable-vaporizer-1882/ reposting because it was a while back.
Was looking for it recently but couldnt find it so i had to go back to my LuRkInG DaYs
sinful trout
Can someone remind me to put this into the doc later? https://imgur.com/gallery/Mxv8G
forest condor
Hey stop promoting vaping to people, did you know it can deliver nicotine directly to your brain reprogramming it for your next hit? Don't get hacked
sinful trout
Silly arpy. We all know vaping protects you from the mind waves that the government sends out allowing aliens to invade your thoughts
forest condor
good point
earnest jungle
But does it protect you from the psyclonic influences of THE MOLE MEN!?!
rotund ferry
... So are the bosses we banish just straight up demons?
sinful trout
the bosses we banish are a result of the sculptors influence
for example
the spider is dr reed and his party that are morphed into one being by dr reed with the help of the sculptors influence
rotund ferry
I suppose my question would be why would they need to be actually banished, instead of just killed by itself?
Are they are just more... 'powerful' than the rest?
sinful trout
heres the thing
we dont know much about why hunters banish now that the monsters are told as respawning
im pretty sure the banishing term is outdated now
as the only reason hunters would have for doing so is to get the piece of the demon that contains a part of its soul, then returning it for their bounty
rotund ferry
Also, the bit that if any hunter dies they go straight to hell.
Alll the way down there, yep.
Gone-zo.
sinful trout
so
that is a take on belief
so christian hunters believe they are going to christian hell
muslim hunters muslim hell
so on
so forth
rotund ferry
muslim hell.
kek.
rigid relic
Wait it’s worldwide?
sinful trout
but primarily why they believe that this is happening is due to A. the rampid killing and B. the slow decay of their bodies
correct
rigid relic
O:
rotund ferry
Now I barely know shit, right? I am just askin' to see what I can know.
And what we do know.
Can anybody just be a Hunter?
sinful trout
this is just the louvent
of course
read hive entries
ava shell became a hunter after she witnessed her mother turn into a hive
rigid relic
Yeah but some stuff happens to give them Darksight right?
rotund ferry
sinful trout
so
initiation to some degree
involves
blood
main theory is the sharing of blood
aha includes a serum with their initiation which prevents conception
rigid relic
Conception?
sinful trout
i.e no women giving birth to meatheads
sinful trout
conception = baby making
@rotund ferry always feel free to ask questions
how else will people learn
rotund ferry
So some hick farmer boy can just go 'yknow i want to shoot some big ol' fuckin' spiders hit me up with that serum shit' and BAM!
Welcome to hell, bud.
sinful trout
@rigid relic so during initiation theyre given darksight
@rotund ferry if they find out about initiation
AHA*
if they find out about aha then im pretty sure they can just join
rotund ferry
And Tier 3 hunters and all are just, better, 'veteran' hunters?
sinful trout
look at beefrat and harpo
hardly strong hunters
tier 3 hunters are veteran hunters yes
theyre also much further along in the decay process
everytime a hunter uses ds
they lose something
during initiation
they lose something
perhaps a piece of their soul
perhaps their well being
we dont know what they lose
we just knoiw they lose something
rotund ferry
Any gain to get this kind of thing back? Or is it a one way trip into 'urfuckindedkiddo'
rigid relic
Could stop using darksight but I don’t think you can get rid of it/undo the original initiation
sinful trout
they dont have to keep using darksight
rigid relic
probably
rotund ferry
Yadda yadda that kind of thing.
rotund ferry
And the only reason why we murder eachother is just because we're all greedy bastards?
rigid relic
Yeah
rotund ferry
What would you say is the most gruesome 'monster' around?
All of them are pretty messed up but. I don't know how much pain these things actually go through, or if it's even told how much.
rotund ferry
Side note, what are Immolators exactly? Where'd they come from?
sinful trout
immolators
rotund ferry
just, the same way any other monster came into existence?
sinful trout
are someone who undergoes the "change" under extreme stress and pressure
rigid relic
What about butcher? Then again the entries abruptly end and we don’t know what they killed
sinful trout
were n ot talking about the butcher
its filled with stuffing and wood
i dont weant to talk about that lore
rotund ferry
Something that'd be best to read on your own time?
rigid relic
I meant for the gruesome monster thing
sinful trout
CONTINUES TO GET FLUSTERED ABOUT THE BUTCHER
butcher
is
a meathead
that was taxadermied
then magically came to life
TRIGGERED
rigid relic
I know
sinful trout
@slim hatch please take over when available
sinful trout
im going to scream into a pillow until i calm down
sinful trout
@rigid relic
slim hatch
Sits in her sleeping cone hugging pillow
rigid relic
It was just about what monster was the most gruesome he said meathead and I just brought up the butcher
slim hatch
Butcher is indeed just a Meathead
Well a smarter stronger version of Meathead to be precise
sick vault
and he has a head, because he looked strange without one
rigid relic
Yeah
slim hatch
That's called sign of intelligence
Based on original lore
But again they fucking refucked up half of the boss lore
rigid relic
What happened?
slim hatch
So there is that
Originally
Hunt lore was
Retelling of the same event
Aka
THere was 1 butcher, 1 spider , 1 assassin
And every match
was basically a different person telling the same story
But then they threw it all into trash
And said "Yeah guys we changed lore, the souls of bosses are same person but they are doomed to repeat the cycle."
Then wtf are we banishing?
How many 1000's of times do you need to banish a soul?
Seems counter-productive in my eyes
So yeah we are still salty about that shit
Easier to capture and lock down in some fucking vault for eternity to come
Instead of losing already sparse hunters
But noooooo we have to rewrite lore because we fucking can.
slim hatch
Oh no Banishing is part of the lore
Everything in the game is part of the lore aside from maybe revivals
But revivals are just something we have no info on yet
And obv. the retardation of hunters is also a game mechanic
rigid relic
I thought there was one butcher a bunch of spiders and how ever many assassins
slim hatch
Well the lore change happened before assassin
But originally there was 1 butcher and 1 spider
Each one being a specific character
A named character to be precise
We were hunting for those name for quite a while but when they threw everything into trash I'll admit i just gave up. I now just read what comes out and try to avoid getting into heated lore debates and critique when shit like that happens because
End result will be a ban
because "That's not welcoming attitude"
sick vault
Most of the new lore will be used to release the legendary hunters
slim hatch
How does a monster lore tie to a legendary hunter?
Where is the logical connection
Unless that character was the one who killed the original one
Or became one
Their lore matters 0
In correlation to the other
Aka
Unless 2 elements of the lore intersect they are separate instances / piece of the same universe
Dolch isn't a Mosin nagant, existence of Dolch has no Impact on existence of Mosin and Mosin has no Impact on Dolch they are 2 separate pieces
Those 2 pieces can exist in the same world tho.
slim hatch
Fuck that i'm going to bed XD
Because now i want to strangle Hawthorn
I'm not sure who is in-charge of Lore now.
Aka who is the lead writer
But the direction they took in some regards is absolutely annoying
sinful trout
@rigid relic so yes we get a little tilted when butcher comes up
slim hatch
👆
sinful trout
GO TO BED
rigid relic
Wait if the idea is the creatures are doomed to repeat a cycle how does Bucther work if they are just a special meathead? Do they even have souls? I’m so confused is there multiple spiders, assassins and butchers? This doesn’t make sense to me anymore ahhhh
sinful trout
CORRECT
IF THE BUTCHER IS JUST A BUNCH OF FUCKING TAXADERMY SHIT
HOW IS ITS SOUL DOOMED TO REPEAT THE CYLCLE
STORMS OFF TO SCREAM AT A WALL
takes a deep breath
there is only one spider at a time
however it respawns
same goes for butcher
and assasin
rigid relic
Ok next question who is the sculptor?
rigid relic
Wut
rigid relic
Oh ok thanks for the knowledge
sinful trout
its an entity
from another realm
who is the scluptor
well i can tell you one thing
his names not gerald from accounting
rigid relic
Ohhhhh so the sculptor is the name of the entity that caused this?
sinful trout
its what weve named One of the entities revolving around the incident
slim hatch
We just all agreed to refer to him as Sculptor
For sake of clarity
He has been called by many names
forest condor
just to interject about legendary hunters,
isn't the point of legendary hunter lore just to expand the world of hunt?
slim hatch
Yes
That's why i shot that statement down instantly
Aka
Mosnter lore has nothing to do with Legendary Hunter lore
forest condor
ahh i see now
slim hatch
Unless the 2 intersected
forest condor
the "night seer" lore seems to show a bit about the butcher
sinful trout
he saw a vision in the butchers "blood"
BULLSHIT
THAT MOTHERFUCKERS LYING
IT DOESNT HAVE BLOOD
rigid relic
What’s this about legendary hunters?
sinful trout
makes
perfect
theyre releassing legendary hunters @rigid relic
they have some lore behid them
also
aFK
IN HUNT MATCH
DELAYED RESPONSES
forest condor
with lore designed to explore the world of hunt and expand beyond just monsters
also gj typing everything while sniping bitches in hunt
sinful trout
😉
forest condor
unless you don't snipe then i'm just sad
sinful trout
i dont snipe
rigid relic
So are they more tier 3 characters or something? Or just mentioned in books and stuff?
forest condor
😠
sinful trout
i winnie spam
forest condor
there are a lot of characters
sick vault
They are special skins you can buy
rigid relic
Oh ok
slim hatch
Only Legendary I hold true to
forest condor
they're basically going to be regular hunters but with a special skin and lore around them
forest condor
rip
slim hatch
John and Sinan for life bitches!
forest condor
how bout teddy rosevelt
rigid relic
Where can I find them?
forest condor
1.0
rigid relic
Is there a way to see what they look like?
forest condor
the 1st 1.0 dev stream
sick vault
https://youtu.be/kLFUBitrRH4
10:00-17:00
rigid relic
Isn’t the Night seer character model already in the game?
sick vault
yes, its black without the writing
rigid relic
Yeah I only like the Reverend
rigid relic
Huh that didn’t have anything interesting in it
sick vault
its from the time we mostly had vague lore
forest condor
night seer character model isn't in the game, he has a different coat from the looks of things
the open chested trench coat
amber harbor
the ada shell legendary skin will have some juicy lore I bet
sinful trout
If we get it
forest condor
funnel cloud above banishment is part of a portal to hell,
little sable
^
slim hatch
@ruby heron Pinned posts enjoy
sinful trout
@ruby heron im here if you have questions. Im at work so delayed responses.
dense nova
Yea I'm here.
forest condor
@dull bane @sinful trout where was the sculpter first mentioned?
sinful trout
The sculptor was first mentioned in the louvent book
I believe its the petella note
But thats where the idea to name him the sculptor originated
forest condor
yeet thank you
dull bane
ah, i was looking at the notes lying around and monster book for him
didint know there was another book
forest condor
yeah it's the louvent book in the ingame library
dense nova
Who is the Sculptor exactly?
sinful trout
Yes the ingame book labeled louisiana event
dense nova
Or do we not know?
sinful trout
@dense nova hes one of the entities surrounding the event
dull bane
i saw his name pop up in the QnA of the lore document
sinful trout
But largely
dull bane
but thats it
sinful trout
We dont know
dull bane
thought the devs mentioned it only
sinful trout
Its what weve agreed to call it
forest condor
it's semi-official
dull bane
thing
dense nova
John hurts himself in this way.
forest condor
they have confirmed what we call the sculpter can change things as the name implies
sinful trout
As official lore
dull bane
jontron is my god dont you dare talk back at him
dense nova
I'm 99% sure that's a direct screen grab from one of his videos lol
dull bane
also, i need more lore
dull bane
i read all the doc
forest condor
the lore doc holds most of out collective knowledge
dull bane
i need more
i was unlocking the story in the book of monsters but i got bored
so i just look up everything
forest condor
it can be tedious
dense nova
I just got a couple pages done on Hive last night.
forest condor
niceeee
dense nova
Last one I had was the report from the girl about her mother eating her fingers and the bugs.
dull bane
im not sure on why the monsters look the same, well, i know why
but...do they respawn
or just change looks?
dense nova
Is the woman already being controlled by bugs by that point, or is it implied they were killing her as she was eating them?
dull bane
hives are specifically
that person
is what i got
not just female
i forgot her name, but if the first hive was uh, bill
all hives are now bill
i think
thats how i understood it anyways
dense nova
Is that a game mechanic, and it's implied in story taht there was only one or two of them, or is there some sort of "Cloning," going on for the game?
dull bane
seems complicated
but im sure the reason for it to be like that is because you dont question why the in game hives all look the same
i...dont know exactly how they would explain the butcher looking the same every time
hes a special case
he didint appear with an apron/pig mask and a giant rack strapped to his back
dense nova
I mean, game mechanics limit that whoel thing.
I assume what actually happens in the gameplay is not what actually happened in lore.
dull bane
unless that one specific monster really enjoys fashion
dense nova
Otherwise we've got literally thousands of hunters dying in the same 10 miles of bayou constnatly.
dull bane
i know why the butcher looks like that, its the main reason i cant understand him spawning like that
every time
forest condor
why fix something that isn't broken?
dull bane
all the other butchers should just be big meatheads
after the first
since they dont get special gear
forest condor
the butcher seems to be a different kind of meathead
what with the white works instead of leeches
amber harbor
he'S SupPoseD tO bE a tAxIderMed ModEl wIth nO LifE
The monstrorvm implies that it is the work of a taxidermer brought to life
oh shit
maybe it was brought to life by the poltergeist
it's multiple entities after all
or whatever other entity
maybe it's not only 1 hell dimension coming into our world
so there are a couple of entities creating grunts, hives, armoreds and the others creating imolators and water devils
their abilities to create hellspawn are similar
but when they see something from a foreign dimension they attack it
nvm grunts don't attack immolators or water devils I'm stupid
sorry for the spam
Actually if butcher was created by another entity it would make sense for it to respawn with the head on as the butcher is supposed to be a lifeless object
But that's just a theory..
sinful trout
@dull bane @dense nova dna restructuring
the sculptor made his first hive with ada shells mom
so he just restructures dna is from what i see
dense nova
Ahh so it's sort of cloning.
sinful trout
since there cant be that many people who look like adas mom
dense nova
He just "Copies," it over to a new body.
sinful trout
exactly
dense nova
Would make sense.
sinful trout
and @amber harbor THAT WOULDNT FUCKING EXPLAIN HOW THE GODDAMNED NIGHT SEER MANAGED TO "SEE" A VISION IN THE BITCHERS BLOOD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
forest condor
Doesn't the butcher bleed though?
He has some life juice
Some juice that lets him do an animate
dense nova
He's weak to rending damage yeah, which implies he has something to bleed.
Could be that his "Blood," is actually some form of animated liquid that controls him, so giving gaps for it to escape means that it rapidly loses control.
Like blowing up a bag.
Punch a hole in the top, you have to blow twice as hard to keep it filled.
Maybe the same sort of liquid goo that seems to make up the assassin between the bugs.
At least, sure looks like to me like the bugs have some sort of black liquid between them.
forest condor
same thing that pumps through the grunts
twilit torrent
perhaps the liquid is what keeps the grunts (for example) alive and under the influence of whoever is controlling then? When you kill the grunts the blood (liquid) comes out and they die for good. just an idea though, may have flaws in it.
dense nova
Raises an interesting concept that the black ooze or whatever isnt some sort of virus but like a finger or limb of whatever being is causing this.
They're just finger puppets for demons.
forest condor
the black ooze is incubating insects iirc
dull bane
hellhounds are a little blurry on story
as far as i know hellhounds are just better grunts
amber harbor
Hellhounds are cloned after a hunters dog
dull bane
huh, i have a lore document but it seems like they didint update it
the immolator lore is 2 pages short
sinful trout
Lol
forest condor
i died to a disconnect/desync glitch
ruby heron
@sinful trout can you tell me some lore?
forest condor
@ruby heron here's a fun fact since I'm really tired, for at least the hives and most monsters, they're copies of the original
forest condor
It's a cool thing
As far as we know the first hive is the mother to a girl named Ada Shell
amber harbor
It's the influence of the sculptor, who messes with the souls of people
They are similar to the hives, as in they are clones of the original, but idk why there are more variants for grunts
sinful trout
Grunts seem to be just a simple case of no soul
chilly belfry
want to get into the lore of hunt showdown where is a good place to just read all of it?
sinful trout
Some of its spread aroynd
@chilly belfry but my recommendation would be to start with the hunt lore doc in the pinned messages
chilly belfry
@sinful trout thanks! will check it out
vagrant flicker
So. I have a bit of a theory that the hunters in the game are actually revenants. It does might sound crazy but how else would you be able to traverse to a shadowrealm to track others.
Also it might be just figurative but most of the soundtracks are somewhat connected to death (yeah we're hunting undead/mutated monsters)
rotund ferry
^
tall lava
There's some lore that might clear it up a bit, not sure though since I haven't delved that deep into it
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Rb5ZTHorhSR4ReVsEGZKEQ4njrCo4JO18p7CcOzTe0/edit
Seems like AHA has some kind of ritual that grants the dark sight powers to the hunters
vagrant flicker
warm sequoia
if you take into account the songs being lore related, the fact that you can revive your teammates, and most importantly the game mode where you are trying to save your soul, I think it is safe to say some hunters have died and been brought back to life
vagrant flicker
So revenants
little sable
perhaps
vagrant flicker
Even though a revenant has a certain goal and upon finishing he returns to his grave
little sable
what if the hunters goals are too just make made fucking money
vagrant flicker
I think that the song would have to be called "Wake up dead beat man"
twilit torrent
i don't think the hunters are actual revenants, but may have some powers that allow them to "revive" other dead hunters
sinful trout
@little sable for some people it is
little sable
yee
signal geode
Guys sorry to ask this but who or what is the sculptor?
amber harbor
The sculptor is what we call an entity involved in the louvent
It was mentioned in a note referring to a type of entity
quick prism
hunters "dying" just seems to be them grievously wounded and passing out
considering that they make grunting noises while burning
dense nova
I'm wondering if the grunting noise is a bug or not.
But yeah, I think it's safe to assume that the downed state in game is just a grievous knock out and they just bleed out if left.
Or wake up in a quick play match the next day.
forest condor
but magic
queen belfry
When I see revives, I think it's more of a "Man, I need some bloody meds, I'd done up pretty bad. Until I'm helped by a mate, I'm gonna stay still to help not die"
course, that relies on the partner not just fucking off
twilit torrent
either revives in hunt are A) actual magic where they bring their partner back from the dead, B) non-canon in all ways and only there to help make gameplay better or C) Where your hunter actually dosn't die but is just hurt badly like Cannon Fodder says. They just need help getting back up on their feet.
forest condor
We do know that burning is cannon
It's seen as an ultimate disrespect, giving zero chance for hunters to ever return
(they're probably just hurt really badly and revives are patching them up)
true cedar
I mean when you're down it does say you're down and not dead because your partner can help you up. But when you're dead dead it says you are dead. So maybe it's just like hurt badly.
forest condor
gets shot in the head with a .450 nitro
"I need a medic over here"
true cedar
Lmao yea it doesn't exactly make sense in all cases
Or in most cases
I don't think there's a real logical explanation other than gameplay purposes
As honestly any game with downing
forest condor
It's mostly gameplay
Getting shot in the foot with a shotgun can't be good for you
bold tiger
@forest condor Revives are magical, or at least they were implied to be hy dennis in a livestream qna when asked about bomblance detonation kills
tall copper
revives could be tied in with magic if the revive sequence looked like when youre grabbing a clue
dense junco
it could well be that the person is dead, and they have to fight for their soul, but the partner pulls them out by making wellsprings or something
for later, obviously that's not the canon right now
forest condor
I mean look at the Meatheads abter the Lance hits them...
sinful trout
@forest condor it was a twitter comment where he said the bomblance once stuck in you burrows so deep you would need to perform surgery in a fraction of a second to get it out. Once you explode there would be nothing left.
No one understands what voodou ritual that hunters use to bring their partners back from the dead. Only that it works.
But im pretty sire he was just poking fun, as dennis is not part of the lore development team afaic
errant crater
Hunters have all sorts of abilities that make them weird, kinda makes me think that all hunters would have a body that is "indestructable" in a sense, like it cannot be torn apart by explosions or otherwise, and the only way to kill them so they wont get back up is to burn them to cinders or leaving them unconsious close to rifts
probably might have something to do with the souls being trapped in the body, that said im not super well read on the lore
forest condor
They're killable
The reviving is gameplay in almost every situation
We know because, well, hunters kill each other a lot
John Hayward was killed (presumably)
amber harbor
We should ask about revives in another qna
if we get one
early lore has changed a lot, maybe they add smth about revives in book of weapons
little sable
the music is lore related
little sable
sinful trout
Theyre lore related. Hawthorne even said they were
sinful trout
You all know my theories on the subject
forest condor
I know they said that
I just can't believe that humming will give us the answers
Can we got some spectrum analysis in on that
amber harbor
they said lyrics will come with 1.0
forest condor
Oh cool then
sinful trout
well then again
rise up dead man
devil in the chirchyard
they both have lyrics
pretty sure theres another
the humming one
its the same as rise up dead men
amber harbor
they said they teased the instrumental for some songs
I assume it's the legendary content and female hunter teasers
dense nova
There is a lyrical version of rise up dead man.
They used it on the reveal of..
Some patch.
amber harbor
there are like 3 versions of that song
dense nova
Think that one yeah.
marble wasp
Is it time to add the shotty disconnect into the lore?
Maybe it's a malevolent force at work to balance your enjoyment of the Hunt and make sure it claims more hunters especially the skilled ones!
marble wasp
I feel like soneone should make a trailer for it
The true boss of the bayou
An unseen terror lurks around everycorner
Its not the other hunters
Its not the monsters!
It's not even the bullets that may or may not be riddling your body if a gun fight were to take place
It's the tenth of a second shotgun sound effect that will erase your hinter from existence
Whether you shot it
Someone else did
And it doesnt even have to be pointed in your direction to do it
Heck
You can already be dead
And it'll double kill you
All the way out of the damn game
uncut reef
does anyone know good hunt showdown lore yt channels i'd like the lore be read to me as I relax
amber harbor
Psychoghost has a new series where he does that
brave topaz
I feel a bit late to the party because i only recently picked this game up, but the lore looks interesting as hell and i'm surprised not more people have explored it
amber harbor
@brave topaz Hopefully more people will once they actually market the game for 1.0
brave topaz
Dead excited for it actually, i'd like to see all of the interesting tales that are hopefully spawned from this wonderfully strange game
sinful trout
Isnt there a tooltip that displays the full acronym?
forest condor
i don't believe so
sinful trout
Also
Dug something up
Only other reference of the twins is spider entry
Then there was a twin coal mine shaft explosion
But i doubt itd that
sick vault
Medical Supplies ... Asmus ? @rotund ferry
sinful trout
Medical surplus asmus
forest condor
ahh
sinful trout
Asmus is a dutch name
green drift
So is the butcher pretty much just a fancy meathead as far as we know right now? I know he got all prettied up by the taxidermist but as of now that’s all we know?
sinful trout
Its a TAXADERMIED MEATHEAD
ITS LITTERALLY SRUFFING CLOTH AND FUCKING SKIN
IT SHOULDNT BLEED AS THERES NO FUCKING BLOOD
@stiff vector FLIP ME
SO EITHER THE NIGHT SEER IS LYING
OR SOMETHINGS UP
NOT TO MENTION AN ARM IS MISSING AND THERES FUCKING ORGANS SPILLING OUT
But its fUckING TAXADERMIED
azure vessel
are you okay
devout cedar
slim hatch
To this day we are pissed off about bloody retcons on established lore
And the fact some of the stuff they replaced pre established lore with makes little logical sense
That's why he is pissed and I can understand him
slim hatch
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forest condor
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