#lore-discussion | Hunt: Showdown 1896 Official | Page 103

burnt orchid Jun 7, 2019, 5:10 PM

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Last time we put a head in a meathead we got the butcher

tacit iron Jun 7, 2019, 5:11 PM

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Next time it will be Hive 2, Hell's boogalo

sinful trout Jun 7, 2019, 5:23 PM

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I agree @burnt orchid we got initiation and blood and stuff and then the deletus serum

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What if its actually the antodote shot

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And thats why it now lasts all match?

amber harbor Jun 7, 2019, 5:37 PM

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isn't it supposed to be just for the initiation?

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or just an 1 hour contraceptive

sinful trout Jun 7, 2019, 5:44 PM

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I feel like its an optional thing

forest condor Jun 7, 2019, 5:58 PM

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hold up when's the lore stream

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@sinful trout

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oh nvm

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i just read teh announcemen

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burnt orchid Jun 7, 2019, 6:06 PM

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i think the serum has nothing to do with the antidote

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they are completelly different things

sinful trout Jun 7, 2019, 6:06 PM

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Could be

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But theres one quote that makes me think this along with the now lasts all map

burnt orchid Jun 7, 2019, 6:06 PM

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antidote is just a vaccine against swamp spicy flu

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the serum awakens your dark sight

sinful trout Jun 7, 2019, 6:07 PM

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the very serum that allows us to walk among the infected

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""

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Thats what males me think theyre the same

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But the problem with that quote

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Is whst fallowd

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and that gifts us with the Sight

amber harbor Jun 7, 2019, 6:09 PM

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well the antidote lasts 1 hour

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and walking among the infected might mean not getting your loa all fucked up by the sculptor

burnt orchid Jun 7, 2019, 6:12 PM

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keep in mind

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antidote = anti venom

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doenst seen to be supernatural in nature

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just a normal poison

amber harbor Jun 7, 2019, 6:13 PM

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^

sinful trout Jun 7, 2019, 6:33 PM

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Its just something that for some reason my brain ticks off as very plausible

burnt orchid Jun 7, 2019, 6:35 PM

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I have no evidence your brain exists tho

bold tiger Jun 7, 2019, 9:23 PM

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So do we have the fully completed monster book?

slim hatch Jun 7, 2019, 9:23 PM

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@bold tiger #lore-discussion-hardcore

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@forest condor Probably a repost of it into #lore-discussion-hardcore for archiving purposes would be nice as it doesn't have that much traction

bold tiger Jun 7, 2019, 9:25 PM

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That one isn't complete either, at least the one that is by nixa

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Thats the old standalone monster document

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Not the complete lore thing

slim hatch Jun 7, 2019, 9:33 PM

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No check pins in this channel

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It should be transcribed

bold tiger Jun 7, 2019, 9:48 PM

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Now I want to make some joke about wrapping your meathead to prevent meatheads

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 1:25 AM

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Caldwell Repeating Arms Company happily bring you, BLANK SHOOTERS, the new method to prevent your lover from being torn asunder by the demons inside

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@bold tiger

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 1:26 AM

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Oh my god

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Its perfect

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Especially since its made by a firearms company, back in the late 1800s they were weird

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 1:27 AM

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oh yeah

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also i found a caveat for why the crown and king is in game even though irl it's from 1998

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 1:27 AM

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1898

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 1:27 AM

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the fictional company C&K made it in 1891

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 1:28 AM

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But actually 1903

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 1:28 AM

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designed in 1898

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 1:28 AM

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Yeah

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Is the weapons book still on the roadmap

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 1:28 AM

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yep

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 1:28 AM

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Or was it one of those that got pared

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 1:28 AM

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it'll explain everything

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 1:28 AM

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Ok good

jolly karma Jun 8, 2019, 4:36 AM

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We have the completed book of monsters?

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 4:37 AM

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yeah its in the hunt lore doc

jolly karma Jun 8, 2019, 4:39 AM

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Which one?

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Could you give me a link please?

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 4:39 AM

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sure 1 sec

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Rb5ZTHorhSR4ReVsEGZKEQ4njrCo4JO18p7CcOzTe0/edit?usp=sharing

Google Docs

HUNT:Showdown Lore

Lore Document The purpose of this document is to reduce clutter on #lore-discussion, and to collate the information we have on lore within HUNT:Showdown. Character List Coroner Amos - Mentioned in “desk of a hunter”. Possibly the coroner at Blanchet cemetery Dr. Jo...

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its in the pinned posts for future reference 😃

jolly karma Jun 8, 2019, 4:43 AM

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In the hardcore channel that's not the most recent post

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 1:23 PM

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Yeah ik sorry about that. But its the most recent pinned post in this channel

worn yoke Jun 8, 2019, 1:38 PM

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What's the point of the book of weapons?

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It doesn't seem like most of the firearms have much lore involved. Hell, "dusters: knuckles made of brass. Good for punching stuff"

noble vine Jun 8, 2019, 1:42 PM

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hmmm yeah

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this shotgun can shoot🤔

devout cedar Jun 8, 2019, 1:44 PM

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Probably history of the gun

noble vine Jun 8, 2019, 1:46 PM

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maybe which hunters used them and stuff

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which could give more clues

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haha

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"clues"

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 1:55 PM

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@worn yoke probably something similar to the way the Monstorvum works now, you'll learn the history of the guns and find out pieces of the lorr

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 1:56 PM

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Avtomat:heavily modified by john hayward during his last stand against jonas. Was made via duct tape and modified parts og guns he stole off dead hunters

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"Youll see"

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Could be stuff like this @worn yoke

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Then Sinan fucking 360's and knocks the head off of a hellhound

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(although, I'm pretty sure Caldwell is responsible for most if not all modified weapons)

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:24 PM

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mm

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i think hes more respondible for the official ones

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like chain pistol

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or the uppercut

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as its a pistol rifled in 50cal and a pistol with a revolving belt

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i read somewhere a long time ago that the avtomat was just a heavily modified mosin nagant

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yeah it was during one of the dev streams

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they talked about changes and how they wanted it to look more personal

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:26 PM

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Avtomat is indeed mosin nagant

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The base is

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The Automation part

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Is isnpired by Huot Gun

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Mosin Nagant Avtomat

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is the full name of the weapon

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huot_Automatic_Rifle

Huot Automatic Rifle

The Huot Automatic Rifle was a Canadian World War I era light machine gun project.

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📎 Huot_Automatic_Rifle.png

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📎 latest.png

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📎 Mosin_Nagant_Avtomat.png

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📎 Mosin_Nagant_M1891.png

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:28 PM

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yeah i remember in one of the dev streams they talked about adding the belt sling and the tape to it to try and make it more personal

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:29 PM

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Well i mean Huot was clearly inspiration for the avtomat design

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:29 PM

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oh definately

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:29 PM

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But mechanism looks different at least the bolt / repeating mechanism

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The barrel is fairly similar

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:29 PM

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not to mention the drum has a literal leather belt strapped to it

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and theres painters tape

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:29 PM

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I'd say avtomat has more experimental DIY feel compared to Huot

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:30 PM

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i would agree

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:30 PM

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But many weapons in Hunt

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That are used by Hunters are experimental

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Dolch being one of them

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Bomb-lance, sticky bomb, I guess Concertina also counts

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:30 PM

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i personally am doubtful that caldwell made the avtomat

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thats all im saying

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Ow yeah

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I'm also not saying it because

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Mosin is Tsar Russia produced

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It's Tsar russia at that time

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:31 PM

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exactly

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:31 PM

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So it can be easily something Russian Hunters came up with

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:31 PM

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yeah

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Caldwell seems to be the gun merchant / gun broker

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And he clearly does business globally

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As he was responsible / tied to import of Dolch

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:32 PM

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oooh

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i didnt read that

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:32 PM

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It is in one of the Louisiana papers

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:32 PM

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where was that if you dont mind me asking

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kk\

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Maybe i'm a bit mixing it up

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But try to look there

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:32 PM

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like the louvent book?

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Actually give me a sec

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Right one

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📎 unknown.png

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:35 PM

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it says he included prototypes of a highly experimental nature

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and its found inside french german dictionary inside berlin

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id say its safe to assume youre right

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Berlin Library

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So the letter was hidden

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:35 PM

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yeah

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:35 PM

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in French-German dictionary in Berlin Library

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:35 PM

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yeah

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i would definately say caldwell got the prototype

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produced a few

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and thenn shipped it

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Well it seems like he got more than Dolch with that shipment

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Based on how the phrasing is written

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:36 PM

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yeah

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for me it seems he sent uppercut, chain and dolch there

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Why the uppercut?

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:37 PM

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I don't see any implication

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That he sent something

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I only see that he received it

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First line

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:37 PM

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It's based on a weapon that existed long before

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:37 PM

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"First shipment is under way should arrive in Louisiana"

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:37 PM

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i tire of working toward a nonexistant perfection and long to create something truly original

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@slim hatch I can now confirm that the first sipment is under way and have been promised should arrive in louisianna before the month is out

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@bold tiger i just feel that a pistol with rifle ammo is highly experimental

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:38 PM

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I'd assume this is the context of the German manufacturer shipping prototypes to Louisiana for hunters

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:39 PM

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thats just me though

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:39 PM

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I'd say Uppercut is probably a believable modification

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Due to the design of the weapon that actually allowed it.

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:39 PM

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The uppercut in a split fram is unbelievable

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But in a closed frame it could work

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Now the chain one those also existed but Caldwell's version doesn't match historically existing ones so that one could be considered an experimental weapon

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Basically its a Colt Walker conversion from django

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Considering he solved issue that was never solved in real life

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:40 PM

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@slim hatch im confused. the letter is dotted by V. Caldwell. but you just said you think its from a german manufacturer?

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:41 PM

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No no

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It's Caldwell

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Confirming

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In an exchange

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That shipment from Germany is on its way to Louisiana

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:41 PM

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Also apparently the Nagant stock is from 1927

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:41 PM

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yes

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okay

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:41 PM

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I mean who sent to whom doesn't matter imo in this context

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what matters is the contents and where the transcript was found

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:41 PM

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i was a little confused for a second

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:42 PM

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And since it's transcript. It could of been even a call or a telegram

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Or it could of even been an in person meeting

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:42 PM

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@bold tiger what do you mean nagant stock

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the pistol

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this is the model 1895 in game

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:42 PM

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The holster-stock that it uses

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I was just looking at the Imfdb page

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:43 PM

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Yeah but Nagant was made in 1895 for Tsar army

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I mean obv.

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They can re-use stocks from other weapons if they match

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:43 PM

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^

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:44 PM

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Yeah, but the stock always looked a little weird to me, but seeing as it is from the 1920s it makes a bit mor sense

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 2:44 PM

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I mentioned caldwell because of the line regarding his prototypes,

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I can find it in a bit

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:44 PM

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Also am i only one

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Having issues with Bornheim no3?

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:45 PM

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How so?

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:45 PM

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It's Bergmann

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:45 PM

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Also what are the prototypes Caldwell has made? Or is it just ones he is stealing

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:45 PM

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And Bergmann no.3 used Stripper clips

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While in game it uses a magazine

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Which is no.5

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:46 PM

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It uses an en bloc

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:46 PM

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i mean

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@slim hatch IT EVEN SAYS IT IN THE DESCRIPTION

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:46 PM

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http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Bergmann_1896

Bergmann 1896

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:46 PM

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📎 unknown.png

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:47 PM

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Yeah thing is

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The magazine they put in doesn't look like a stripper clip

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:47 PM

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Different terminology for the same thinf

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:47 PM

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📎 s-l300.png

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Because this is a stripper clip

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:47 PM

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Most people don't call en block clips magazines

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Its like M1 garand

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:48 PM

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And what No.3 used was something between magazine and a clip

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Do you call that a clip or a magazine

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:48 PM

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thats a clip

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:48 PM

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It is a clip, not exactly true but most magazines have springs

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:49 PM

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But okay it can be written off as semantics. And you're right on the last statement

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:49 PM

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Also apparently the C96 did not have a bolt hold open so there was no real way to load single rounds

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Unless you had 3 hands i guess

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 2:50 PM

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No it is an enbloc clip

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:50 PM

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It had many variations

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C96

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Had a magazine version

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5, 10, 15 and to my mind 20

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:50 PM

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helo and welcome to gun nut chat

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where we nut about guns

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:50 PM

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And chinese ones also had automatic version

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Also there was a sealed magazine system which was stripper loaded

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Yeah, but the one in game yoj could just explain away as a modification by caldwell or whoever

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 2:50 PM

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The gun uses an internal mechanism to load rounds instead of relying on the thing holding the bullets to load

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:50 PM

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That's actually the one used in hunt

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Stripper loaded one

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:51 PM

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Though the Dolch is also a tiny bit anachronistic with the game being 1895

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 2:51 PM

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Define plz

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:51 PM

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But since it is the dolch not the mauser

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 2:51 PM

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That's a big word I've never seen

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And I've seen lots of big words

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:52 PM

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From the wrong time period

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:52 PM

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Well timeline is skewed in Hunt-verse

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Hunt-verse is proto-earth / alt-earth|Universe

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So stuff isn't exactly 1:1 to real history

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 2:52 PM

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Okay here's the explanation for the dolch. It's a prototype sent out to sellers a year before full commercial release

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:53 PM

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And yeah indeed Dolch is marked experimental

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Developers do stuff like that all the timd

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:53 PM

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but C&K is even further into the future.

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Yeah, simply by its existence a year earlier its design was slightly different

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:53 PM

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It was early 1900

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Browning

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 2:53 PM

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The C&K is marked 1891 tho

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Which annoys me

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Cause it started development in 1898

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Designed 1898

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Arghhh

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Production from 1902

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Yep

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Which in no way matches up with the timeframe of 1891

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:54 PM

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I mean I've no issues with timeline being skewed

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 2:54 PM

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I just want an explanation

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Cause it breaks a few established rules

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:54 PM

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Hm?

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In what regard

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 2:54 PM

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But I guess hey, it's just a really sexy gun they wanted in

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The idea that they wouldn't put in stuff from the wrong eras

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:54 PM

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It will be explained in the equipment vokk

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I mean the Avtomat is from 1918ish

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:55 PM

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petition to call books vokks from now on

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Woops

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 2:55 PM

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sounds way cooler

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Well i don't recall them saying they will never put stuff in from different eras

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You know if i recall

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They did say they take some liberty in adjusting weapons from later times

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If they want them in

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Probably

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Hence existence of Dolch and C&K

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They wanted them in so they changed their creation years to earlier

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 2:56 PM

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That would make sense as long as they don't add the mateba into the game I'm good

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Lol

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Besides they are created by different people

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Dolch actually makes sense though

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:56 PM

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I don't think they would

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Since it's an experimental

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:56 PM

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mateba would look out of place

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:56 PM

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The thing I find most weird is that everything doesn't go by trade names

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Dolch and C&K they still feel like they belong

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Add 1911 even

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and it will feel out of place

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Oh I know, I was being sarcastic, somebody suggested it in the ideas chat

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Except the Nagants and the mosin

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:57 PM

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What's wrong with Nagant and Mosin?

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:57 PM

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They have the normal names

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:57 PM

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Licensing

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 2:57 PM

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That's lisencing issues

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:57 PM

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I can understand winfield

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:57 PM

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It is because of licensing

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Soviet / Tsar russian weapons

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aren't Trademarked

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You can use them

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:57 PM

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But Spencer repeating rifle company has been out of busineess dor years

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Many decades

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:57 PM

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While all US and European production weapons are trademarked

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And using them will require huge fees

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 2:57 PM

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Us trademarks are stupid

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:57 PM

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It's purely legal thing

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:57 PM

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So specter instead of spencer doesn't make sense

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:58 PM

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And just because spencer is out of business

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Doesn't mean trademark isn't active

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 2:58 PM

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I don't think trademarks last forever

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:58 PM

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They can last a very long time

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Again, eu and us trademarks last a long time after the death of a business

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:58 PM

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^

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 2:58 PM

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It's stupid and anti consumer as frick but it exists

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Only reason why Nagant and Mosin use real names is because they are "public property"

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Public domain is nice tho

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:59 PM

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say thank you to Tsar Russia and Soviet union

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For not making weapon manufacturing a business industry

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Same with china

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They don't even have names

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Their weapons have "Type X"

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as markings

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Those are also public domain

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 2:59 PM

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Well, it still is, just less rude to people making virtual versions of their guns

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 2:59 PM

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Yeah

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I mean try naming a gun "Colt" without a heft license fee or contract

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Good luck paying for 5 generations

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 3:00 PM

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Lol

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 3:00 PM

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So yeah it's one of those cases where the reason is simple

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"Real world laws and regulations"

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That's your answer no in-game reasoning

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Simply you can't use those names without paying shit tons

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Ironically early version of CS had AK marked as CV47 because US made so they didn't know that AK is public domain 😄

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So is SKS

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To my mind Gatling is also public domain

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Because it's "Gatling Mechanism" / "Gatling Working Principle"

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Akin to Steam engine

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 3:05 PM

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It's always weird to me that you would basically have to pay to advertise

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 3:05 PM

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Yeah but that's business

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Like Romero is a reference to John Romero

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But they can't use his full name

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As that would infringement

bold tiger Jun 8, 2019, 3:09 PM

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Also romero doubles as Remington

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In case they add anything else made by them

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 3:10 PM

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Mhm

random lava Jun 8, 2019, 3:12 PM

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John romero.

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You mean George romero?

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 3:48 PM

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Yeah probs you're right

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I mean they both are film-makers

random lava Jun 8, 2019, 3:53 PM

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The romero is confirmed named after George A. Romero

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The 77 is his age

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 4:16 PM

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YEET

noble vine Jun 8, 2019, 4:20 PM

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HAH!

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i knew it already

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get nae nae´d lore gods

burnt orchid Jun 8, 2019, 5:49 PM

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77 was when the first zombie movie he did was released

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Dawn of the dead i think?

random lava Jun 8, 2019, 5:50 PM

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that is 1 not the first and 2 not in 77 but 78

burnt orchid Jun 8, 2019, 5:51 PM

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Ree

random lava Jun 8, 2019, 5:51 PM

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night of the living dead was the first one from 1968

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the 77 is his age

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he was born 1940 and died 2017

burnt orchid Jun 8, 2019, 5:54 PM

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F

slim hatch Jun 8, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Mixed up the G and J gimme a break @random lava !

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I’m not flawless as you think

random lava Jun 8, 2019, 7:10 PM

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fab2

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I only corrected you

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 7:14 PM

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FABFAB2 FABFAB2 FABFAB2 FABFAB2 FABFAB2 FABFAB2 FABFAB2 FABFAB2 FABFAB2 FABFAB2 FABFAB2 FABFAB2 FABFAB2 FABFAB2 FABFAB2

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I just realised new monsters will add new pieces to the Monstorvum

burnt orchid Jun 8, 2019, 7:27 PM

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📎 images_6.jpeg

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 7:28 PM

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ok so is the guy's name pronounced skog-na-mig-leo?

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@sinful trout

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 7:29 PM

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ive always prenounced it like

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scog nah mill leo

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 7:29 PM

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what about that g at the end

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ahh whatever i'll figure it out

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(i mean we could ping hawthorn or hearn but i don't want the mods to get mad)

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 7:32 PM

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true

burnt orchid Jun 8, 2019, 7:33 PM

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I dont even bother

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Tamrat it is

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He was a sinner right?

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 7:33 PM

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i dont think so

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was he?

burnt orchid Jun 8, 2019, 7:34 PM

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I remenber Reading it somewhere

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 7:41 PM

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TIL i'm either really great at spot reading or i'm incapable of speaking the english language

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no middle ground

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one or the other

burnt orchid Jun 8, 2019, 7:46 PM

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Why are you writing in french

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 7:48 PM

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what

burnt orchid Jun 8, 2019, 7:50 PM

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Quoi?

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 7:50 PM

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oui

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whey

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 8:01 PM

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in the font i'm reading from shorn looks like shom

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fml gotta redo a whole paragraph of weird words

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FUCK YOU ERNEST HEMMINGWAY

worn yoke Jun 8, 2019, 8:21 PM

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That got me wondering why is the bergmann pistol renamed? Bergman hasn't been in business in a century lel

sinful trout Jun 8, 2019, 8:22 PM

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doesnt mean copyrights not active

worn yoke Jun 8, 2019, 8:28 PM

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True

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 8:45 PM

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copy-right is so fucked

burnt orchid Jun 8, 2019, 9:28 PM

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Copy my rights

forest condor Jun 8, 2019, 11:03 PM

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owo

devout cedar Jun 9, 2019, 1:27 PM

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@burnt storm wake up fab2

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@random lava Stop contributing and go mod already nixawillkillme

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Ok i agree with that grumpycado

devout cedar Jun 9, 2019, 1:56 PM

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Thunk

forest condor Jun 9, 2019, 2:39 PM

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we deleted them

burnt orchid Jun 9, 2019, 2:54 PM

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What

sinful trout Jun 9, 2019, 6:16 PM

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?

honest siren Jun 10, 2019, 2:08 PM

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fuck !

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i just prestige

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and noone wanna play with me ( prestige for 3rd times )

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should we keep prestiging or just skip that function

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anyone ?

random lava Jun 10, 2019, 2:09 PM

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@honest siren you are in lore channel, you might want to use either #hunt-general or if you have a question #game-questions or if you are looking for someone to play waith any of the lfg channels

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!lfg

warped bluffBOT Jun 10, 2019, 2:09 PM

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Permission number #16 .acm disable #lore-discussion is preventing this action.

random lava Jun 10, 2019, 2:10 PM

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#na #eu #asia #south-america #oceania

forest condor Jun 10, 2019, 4:16 PM

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So much confusion, so little lore

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Lol

honest horizon Jun 10, 2019, 6:17 PM

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@honest siren i hold off on prestige-ing as long as possible. When I get to the end of my bloodline, I begin spending big bucks on load outs and I eventually run out of cash. Then I prestige.

forest condor Jun 10, 2019, 7:04 PM

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@honest horizon did you not read Nixa's text? this isn't the place to discuss that stuff, go to #hunt-general

honest horizon Jun 10, 2019, 9:14 PM

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@forest condor don’t scold me 😫

forest condor Jun 10, 2019, 9:24 PM

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sigh

slim hatch Jun 11, 2019, 3:42 PM

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New lore entry is flair text

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Really nothing in it aside from thoughts of a man

forest condor Jun 11, 2019, 4:28 PM

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sigh

slim hatch Jun 11, 2019, 5:54 PM

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^ I share the disappointment

sinful trout Jun 11, 2019, 6:11 PM

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Should i bother reading it?

slim hatch Jun 11, 2019, 6:14 PM

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It's good flair text

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But really there is nothing in it

burnt orchid Jun 11, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Post here pls

forest condor Jun 11, 2019, 6:52 PM

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@burnt orchid

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The Papers of Hayden Collins

Filed under, “Miscellaneous”

Story draft?

Undated

2/3

It weren't my first job, and I'll be damned if it were my last. As if damnin' were a thing to stop a man killin' demons. That's math don't right add up. That kinda thing either gonna make you holy or damn you right from the start. I reckon religion's a sham anyway. They's always after your wallet. This God you speak of, I says, last time I was in a church, he ain't gotta interest in my wallet, I say. His son turned over them tables in the market, ain't he? Preacher give me the eye at that, shook the collection plate and eyed me right righteous like. I figured my welcome worn out. No bother replacin' it. Ain't nothing righteous in a God wantsta rob me, no.

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@sinful trout are there only 3 immolator passages?

sinful trout Jun 11, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Yep

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Holy shit

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Hayden collins

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The writer

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He wrote the water devil entries

forest condor Jun 11, 2019, 7:06 PM

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oh shit here we go again

burnt orchid Jun 11, 2019, 9:08 PM

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The way that guy writes about that gay freedman hunter still sticks me as odd

amber harbor Jun 12, 2019, 4:53 AM

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Maybe he just did it for shock value

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It seems to me that he presents is in a freak show kinda way

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Read my novel its controversial

bold tiger Jun 12, 2019, 2:42 PM

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Wait what

wanton heath Jun 12, 2019, 4:21 PM

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https://youtu.be/-lxLxl5Un40

YouTube

R_E_D_SQUIRREL

The Wanderer by Glen Hansen

An original short story in the world of Hunt Showdown

▶ Play video

split dawn Jun 12, 2019, 6:54 PM

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How come all the horses are are all torn up and some are still alive and won’t move

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What’s a sculptor

forest condor Jun 12, 2019, 8:10 PM

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the sculptor is an entity that is capable of "sculpting" people into beasts for a so far unknown reason

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also the horses still being alive is most likely a gameplay mechanic

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while the ones being torn up..well... there's a lot of dogs and hungry hungry "humans" running around

split dawn Jun 12, 2019, 11:08 PM

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Tru thx

forest condor Jun 12, 2019, 11:20 PM

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No problem @split dawn, if you have any more questions lmk

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Or anyone else in the lore chats, we're all open to discussion on almost any topic other than the dreded water fowl

bold tiger Jun 13, 2019, 12:04 AM

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Ducks are evil, thats why they are there

forest condor Jun 13, 2019, 1:11 AM

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BEGONE HEATHEN HISS

split dawn Jun 13, 2019, 2:39 AM

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Do we know where the sculptor came from @forest condor

forest condor Jun 13, 2019, 3:14 AM

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We know he comes from what's described as a different dimension

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so some parrallel world they come through with portals

sick epoch Jun 13, 2019, 8:07 AM

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Probably Catholics

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HUL

amber harbor Jun 13, 2019, 8:18 AM

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Just hit me that rubber ducks might be a reference to rubber duck debugging

silk pollen Jun 13, 2019, 9:18 AM

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you should not post the same question in different topics

forest condor Jun 13, 2019, 4:06 PM

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@silk pollen huh?

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Who are you referring to?

silk pollen Jun 13, 2019, 4:16 PM

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That post i was referring to was already deleted

forest condor Jun 13, 2019, 4:24 PM

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Ahh kool

split dawn Jun 14, 2019, 4:12 AM

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Why do hunters fight other hunters

azure vessel Jun 14, 2019, 4:12 AM

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because in the lore, hunters are not nice people

split dawn Jun 14, 2019, 4:14 AM

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Okay but aren’t they in a group fight the demons or have to take an oath

azure vessel Jun 14, 2019, 4:14 AM

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i wouldn't know

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don't know the lore too much

rotund ferry Jun 14, 2019, 4:17 AM

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they dont want to fight the demons for honor

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but for money

forest condor Jun 14, 2019, 4:31 AM

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@split dawn they fight for many reasons, some fight for the thrill, most fight for the money and power

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They are part of a group that has an interest in the bounty but each fight for their own reasons

split dawn Jun 14, 2019, 4:36 AM

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Thank you again for answering my question@forest condor

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Do y’all ever think that the infection will start to spread

forest condor Jun 14, 2019, 4:49 AM

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It's not really an infection, the sculpter had a range of influence and people aren't being infected in a triditional sense

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So I think it'll stay fairly localized

sick epoch Jun 14, 2019, 5:54 AM

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There have been other incidents across the world, but each of them remains local.

nocturne wharf Jun 14, 2019, 9:47 AM

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So hunters fight hunters for the infamy/money, but why is it that the only sculpted that fights anything other than hunters is the Immolator? I mean not even the devils attack other creatures.

amber harbor Jun 14, 2019, 10:46 AM

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It may be created by a different entity

nocturne wharf Jun 14, 2019, 10:52 AM

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Unlikely, the semblance is uncanny

forest condor Jun 14, 2019, 1:05 PM

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@nocturne wharf the immolator seems to have a lack of control to put it lightly, we don't know for sure why it fights other sculpted but it could be unable to tell what's what when it's on fire

nocturne wharf Jun 14, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Wouldn't it make a bit more sense than when it's burning, the last remnants of hunter are getting used up? That it hunts both hunters (by which it was damned to this smolthering hell) and sculpted alike. Both being objects of hatred for the hunter inside him

forest condor Jun 14, 2019, 2:59 PM

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@nocturne wharf could you explain what you mean by "by which it was damned to this smolthering hell"

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cause hunters didn't do that

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the sculpter did it

burnt orchid Jun 14, 2019, 3:48 PM

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One thing i wonder is if the immolator was even made by the sculptor

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As in the first one

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Its story is quite bizarre

nocturne wharf Jun 14, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Isnt the immolater one of those who died during the quickplay?

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Sculpted by the sculpter

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More in-lore i always considered them to be these who didn't save their souls through the wellspring. That they are merely damned souls of hunters

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It makes sense since when you "expire" in the wellspring, your body becomes immolated

forest condor Jun 14, 2019, 7:17 PM

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The first written account of an immolater can be ready in the Monstorvum

split dawn Jun 14, 2019, 8:09 PM

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What happens to a hunter if they die by monster

forest condor Jun 14, 2019, 8:09 PM

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i'm pretty sure they just ded

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theres not a lot on that

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but they have a serum in them that is supposed to counteract the effects of the "darkness"

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they might turn into a zombie after an hour

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hmm

sinful trout Jun 14, 2019, 8:41 PM

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@nocturne wharf read immolator entry

kindred raven Jun 14, 2019, 10:11 PM

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Where's a good place to get up to speed on the backstrory/lore?

forest condor Jun 14, 2019, 10:12 PM

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read the monstorvum

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and read their posts on the website

kindred raven Jun 14, 2019, 10:14 PM

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Spent a few years grinding BR's so somethingdifferent, with a good story, seems interesting. Thanks.,

forest condor Jun 14, 2019, 10:16 PM

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you're welcome

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feel free to ask any questions yo uhave

clear zephyr Jun 15, 2019, 11:06 PM

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why do the united states flags have the full amount of stars? depending on the time period its set in it should look different

split dawn Jun 15, 2019, 11:14 PM

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Is the devil real in this game

slim hatch Jun 16, 2019, 12:48 AM

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Unknown

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Only belief system that has existential basis aka proof of being an actual thing other than a belief system

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is Haitian Voodoo

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Satan and God don’t seem to exist there is no evidence of it and no implication

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It's all Voodoo based

rich parcel Jun 16, 2019, 1:53 AM

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What year(s) is this game exactly set in? Like 1880s?

rotund ferry Jun 16, 2019, 1:59 AM

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As for the hunted, there's a loading screen tip saying that the banishing is sending the bosses back to hell. Coupled with the human features of both the Spider and Butcher, it doesn't seem far-fetched that they are hellspawn possessing and twisting some unfortunate sod. This is further reinforced by a hunter's journal mentioning that a true hunter needs a "demon", rather than simple prey. The game also speculates that the bosses are the source of whatever affliction has created the Grunts and other AI cast. However they escaped from hell isn't made clear, far as I'm aware.

Hunters themselves seem to be members of an esteemed hunter's lodge open only to the most esteemed hunters. Based on the dark sight and hints on the homepage (and the fact that they're hunting what seems to be hellspawn), it seems a safe bet this lodge also dabbles in the occult.

That's my take on it, at any rate.

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What do you guys think?

forest condor Jun 16, 2019, 2:38 AM

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@rotund ferry hunters are part of a group called The AHA, they're an organization who's higher-ups have an interest in the bounties. We know there's an entity we call the sculpter and it's behind the affliction. It created the bosses.

strange blaze Jun 16, 2019, 3:39 PM

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Really love the setting for this game, wish there was a single player campaign, or a netflix show.

slim hatch Jun 16, 2019, 4:00 PM

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@rich parcel Precise year 1895

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@strange blaze Lets say fuck no to Netflix else we will have Gender Fluid Non-Binary Trans-unicorn for Philip Huff Jones and Hayward will be a woman.

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🤔

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What else could netflix virtue / diversify

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I'd not trust netflix with anything that has established lore after what they did with Witcher (Ciri - BAME and Ballsack Nilfgaard and apparently Fringilla Vigo is black while in books deathly pale ref: "The Last Wish"...) and teen-titans.

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They can write original pieces how they want but not butcher established worlds/lore/characters

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And Bright was awesome (Original piece by NF)

rich parcel Jun 16, 2019, 5:26 PM

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Thanks! And yeah I could see Netflix doing that for muh diversity

forest condor Jun 16, 2019, 6:06 PM

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Honestly a show would be amazing

slim hatch Jun 16, 2019, 6:13 PM

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Give me a short but nice SP campaign and I'll be happy

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Don't want TV shows

wary pike Jun 16, 2019, 6:13 PM

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Sorry if this sounds like a weird question but I just started not too long ago. So when the hunters clear out monsters from the map is that like an isolated incident? Or is the entire in game world like this? Or am I just thinking too much?

slim hatch Jun 16, 2019, 6:13 PM

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Don't want movies

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Do like dead space did

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Animated films

forest condor Jun 16, 2019, 6:23 PM

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@wary pike they're going into a specific deadzone to kill and extract a boss bounty token

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There are many Locations like this

wary pike Jun 16, 2019, 6:38 PM

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Well I mean like outside the deadzone and the map in general. Like is it like an infestation or is the whole world filled with grunts and stuff!

forest condor Jun 16, 2019, 6:43 PM

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There are a lot around

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The hunters serve the duel purpose of getting bounties and curveing the spread

slim hatch Jun 16, 2019, 7:59 PM

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Isolated cases all over the world

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With different scales

stable haven Jun 16, 2019, 8:19 PM

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How world-threatening is the infection and the bosses and all that

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And why do hunters kill each other?

forest condor Jun 16, 2019, 8:21 PM

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They kill each other because they're bad people who want a common goal

late tinsel Jun 16, 2019, 10:16 PM

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@stable haven As far as we know, the current hunt in Louisiana is its own isolated event in rural areas near New Orleans. There are events all over the world but they don’t seem related at the moment. For now, the only major area threatened by the Louisiana event appears to be New Orleans, and if Marie Laveau’s letter is to be believed, the corruption can and will spread if left unchecked by the AHA. Hunters all join the open hunt for various reasons that only the individual can determine. Some just want to hunt other men, some are greedy for the bounty and will kill to grab it. Some only want gold or prestige.

stable haven Jun 17, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Cool, thanks for the answer

burnt wave Jun 17, 2019, 2:06 AM

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It reminds me of "The Esoterrorists"on some level

novel niche Jun 17, 2019, 5:12 AM

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If a meathead does not have a head, how does it react to sound with no ears?

sour sage Jun 17, 2019, 5:17 AM

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is there an actual lore reason for why hunters kill other hunters

slim bronze Jun 17, 2019, 5:34 AM

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Are the extraction points for anyone in particular, or just people who manage to get bounties?

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And how come hunters don't get infected?

azure vessel Jun 17, 2019, 5:38 AM

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what do you mean by infected?

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oh whoops wrong channel, sorry!

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~~i thought this was QnA~~

slim bronze Jun 17, 2019, 5:42 AM

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Ya know, turned into one of the grunts or possibly worse

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And most importantly, how do hunters not cut themselves using talon/claw versions of weapons?

amber harbor Jun 17, 2019, 6:00 AM

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Hunters take a serum that gives them dark sight and protects them from the '' infection''

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And I'd imagine that the extractionpoints are for all hunters

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As you can extract without the bounty

slim hatch Jun 17, 2019, 7:24 AM

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^ not a fact yet

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But I’d suggest people read pinned collections, QnAs etc.

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It’s all here and in #lore-discussion-hardcore

weak oasis Jun 17, 2019, 7:56 AM

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Nobody knows about their initiation process, so it's not clear of how they obtain their dark sight

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Can be serum, can be something else

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The only thing we know for sure now, their powers have Sculptor's origins

amber harbor Jun 17, 2019, 1:34 PM

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Would be cool to have extraction points disappear after being used

forest condor Jun 17, 2019, 1:39 PM

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No we do know there's a serum that gives them immunity to the affliction

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@slim bronze hunters have a serum that keeps them from getting infected

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@sour sage they kill each other because they're bad people fighting for a limited resource

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The bounty tokes is very valuable

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@novel niche leeches act as a hive mind so they appear to be howbit reacts

burnt wave Jun 17, 2019, 4:19 PM

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xxpow manxxToday at 1:17 AM
is there an actual lore reason for why hunters kill other hunters

My understanding is "Because they can, for greed and the like"

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rabid dentistToday at 1:34 AM
Are the extraction points for anyone in particular, or just people who manage to get bounties?

Nah, anyone who can bug out.

amber harbor Jun 17, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Maybe the reason the assassin got so close to civilisation was because of some remains from the armored armour that didn't get burned?

forest condor Jun 17, 2019, 5:47 PM

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@burnt wave extractions are for hunters.
Hunters kill each other because they're all fighting for the same goal

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And they're normally very bad people

rotund ferry Jun 17, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Any juicy new lore regarding the new hunter skins in t2 and t3?

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Sorry I’ve been away from discord for a hot minute

forest condor Jun 17, 2019, 7:53 PM

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Not yet sadly

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Glad you're back

rotund ferry Jun 17, 2019, 7:55 PM

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Is there somewhere I can read all of the existing lore?

forest condor Jun 17, 2019, 8:23 PM

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Kinda

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@sinful trout mind linking the full doc you compiled

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I'm on mobile and on Vaca

sinful trout Jun 17, 2019, 8:29 PM

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Rb5ZTHorhSR4ReVsEGZKEQ4njrCo4JO18p7CcOzTe0/edit?usp=sharing here it is ladies and gentlement

Google Docs

HUNT:Showdown Lore

Lore Document The purpose of this document is to reduce clutter on #lore-discussion, and to collate the information we have on lore within HUNT:Showdown. Character List Coroner Amos - Mentioned in “desk of a hunter”. Possibly the coroner at Blanchet cemetery Dr. Jo...

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70+ pages of JUICY lorr

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@rotund ferry

rotund ferry Jun 17, 2019, 8:30 PM

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Oh my @sinful trout. That’ll keep me busy. Is this all player contributed or is official?

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And thanks for tagging the necessary person @forest condor. You beauty.

forest condor Jun 17, 2019, 8:31 PM

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@rotund ferry ❤️

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It's all official pieces

rotund ferry Jun 17, 2019, 8:32 PM

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Okay. Thanks guys. 😃

sinful trout Jun 17, 2019, 8:48 PM

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@rotund ferry theyre all official. Compiled it myself and im a stickler for official

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Lies through his teeth

rotund ferry Jun 17, 2019, 9:04 PM

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Kudos to you for putting that all together

sinful trout Jun 17, 2019, 9:04 PM

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thanks man

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there were definately people who helped by getting the pages

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i just transcribed them @sterile rampart @devout cedar @sick epoch these guys got teh monstrorvum pages like freaking gods. And @young wharf made the cover page pretty.

forest condor Jun 17, 2019, 9:09 PM

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Cough cough

sinful trout Jun 17, 2019, 9:09 PM

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arpy compiled some stuff

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but overall he did nothing

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sat on the courch and ate potatos while smoking weed

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fucking millenials

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jk he compiled a lot of the loose lore items

forest condor Jun 17, 2019, 9:12 PM

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I don't do drugs

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I do hyperfixation

sinful trout Jun 17, 2019, 10:12 PM

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oh hey depresso

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welcome back

forest condor Jun 17, 2019, 10:14 PM

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He's always been here in spirit

rotund ferry Jun 18, 2019, 3:57 AM

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h

lunar palm Jun 18, 2019, 8:45 AM

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Alright boys

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explain to me

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wtf is the lore of this game

languid bough Jun 18, 2019, 8:47 AM

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You can read what we know about the lore on the pin message. It is a very good doc explaining it.

lunar palm Jun 18, 2019, 8:48 AM

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Thank you sir

burnt orchid Jun 18, 2019, 12:21 PM

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Feed me lore

forest condor Jun 18, 2019, 1:04 PM

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@burnt orchid no

sinful trout Jun 18, 2019, 2:23 PM

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shoves hive lore down klayns throat like the bugs in mama shell @burnt orchid

forest condor Jun 18, 2019, 2:54 PM

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Damn it

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📎 29836ec.jpg

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I knew this entire lore chat was rule 34 bait

ember fulcrum Jun 18, 2019, 4:36 PM

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I find it interesting how the devs chose an upright and an inverted crucifix side-by-side. I think they were going for the "good vs. evil" or "holy vs. unholy" look, but the inverted crucifix is actually a symbol of St. Peter, who asked to by crucified upside down.

cunning basin Jun 18, 2019, 5:48 PM

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So when we getting a nosferatu?

sinful trout Jun 18, 2019, 6:01 PM

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@ember fulcrum i believe its more of an upsude down mirrored statement. As theres other worlds out there that are similar but different to our own. But thafs just me

forest condor Jun 18, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Upside crucifix is also a symbol of witchcraft @ember fulcrum

ember fulcrum Jun 18, 2019, 6:18 PM

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False

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That's only in Hollywood films lol

forest condor Jun 18, 2019, 6:39 PM

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"The Cross of Saint Peter or Petrine Cross is an inverted Latincross traditionally used as a Christian symbol, but in recent times also used as an anti-Christian symbol"

sinful trout Jun 18, 2019, 9:37 PM

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recent times it has been used as an antichrist symbol. but yeah it wwas originally a christian symbol and some lutherien churches still use it

stiff hornet Jun 18, 2019, 9:46 PM

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yeah lol it's literally the symbol of a man who did not feel worthy to die the same as Jesus

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It is not satanic in any way, shape, or form- It's quite laughable when I see people try to use it that way.

burnt orchid Jun 18, 2019, 9:50 PM

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keep in mind

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upside down cross is not satanic

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upside down crucifix

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is

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also the 2 crosses spell "H"

stiff hornet Jun 18, 2019, 9:50 PM

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?

burnt orchid Jun 18, 2019, 9:51 PM

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for hunt

stiff hornet Jun 18, 2019, 9:51 PM

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no?

burnt orchid Jun 18, 2019, 9:51 PM

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yeah

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the upside down cross is not a satanic symbol at all

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a upside down crucifix, a cross with jesus on it, is somewhat so

stiff hornet Jun 18, 2019, 9:51 PM

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upside down crucifixions were commonplace in roman culture

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and uhh

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tbh having an image of Christ is kinda satanic- no graven images 😛

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but ehh

forest condor Jun 18, 2019, 9:52 PM

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I'm just trying to make up for the fact that I'm Catholic and forgot that the cross of saint Peter was a thing

burnt orchid Jun 18, 2019, 9:53 PM

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depends on what denomination

stiff hornet Jun 18, 2019, 9:53 PM

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I'm trying not to get all reformed theology up in this Arpy- I know this is a lore chat

burnt orchid Jun 18, 2019, 9:53 PM

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mine has no problem with images, just with worship

forest condor Jun 18, 2019, 9:53 PM

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I know I was making a joke

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Let's be real this chat is lore and loosely lore based memes

burnt orchid Jun 18, 2019, 9:53 PM

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the upside down and normal cross ogether is a very cool symbol tho

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it gives a sense of wrong but familiar

forest condor Jun 18, 2019, 9:53 PM

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Religion is mentioned in lore so religion based memes are okay tier9000

burnt orchid Jun 18, 2019, 9:54 PM

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and it spells H

stiff hornet Jun 18, 2019, 9:54 PM

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Yeah tbh if a game is using religion as a central theme then discussion of it is fair game

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hmm

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actually this makes me wonder

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ahhh nvm

forest condor Jun 18, 2019, 9:55 PM

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No go ahead

stiff hornet Jun 18, 2019, 9:55 PM

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I was gonna say what if there were Hunters that were preachers

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But didn't hunt with occult means

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Had something like Dark Vision but Holy

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Hunting purely to banish evil

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and the bounty was just icing on top

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idk that would add a whole other mechanic to the game but I feel like it deviates too much from the themes

digital trail Jun 18, 2019, 10:13 PM

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Well i mean the dark vision and the hunters themselves have concrete origins in the lore, but there's nothing stopping priests from becoming hunters

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Aside from morals

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Hell having a steady belief in something probably helps

forest condor Jun 18, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Some hunters are religious

zealous bone Jun 18, 2019, 10:15 PM

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I mean, considering the timeframe, most would be?

forest condor Jun 18, 2019, 10:15 PM

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And pastors have been known to be involved in the lore

zealous bone Jun 18, 2019, 10:15 PM

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To varying degrees.

forest condor Jun 18, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Not all but some

stiff hornet Jun 18, 2019, 10:22 PM

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what I'm getting at though is dabbling in the occult would compromise his own faith

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that's heresy

forest condor Jun 18, 2019, 10:24 PM

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The hunters dabble more in science than anything

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They find what works and use it

zealous bone Jun 18, 2019, 10:29 PM

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Priest could always be of the mind that "I taint my soul so I can save others"

digital trail Jun 18, 2019, 10:29 PM

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^

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And religious orders of hunters are absolutely confirmed in the lore

forest condor Jun 18, 2019, 10:47 PM

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@zealous bone you're looking for the sinners

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People who believe they're damned to hell and and can therefore do whatever they need to no matter how morally wrong

burnt wave Jun 19, 2019, 12:02 AM

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Roman culture seems to have preferred crucifying people using a single vertical wood beam; the iconic cross probably was used to list crimes. And Peter’s cross was supposedly by specific request

rotund ferry Jun 19, 2019, 12:06 AM

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hey lorebois

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what do you think matto means

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if anything

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@brisk thorn found it

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/369531585940422656/590692839248232470/Hunt_Showdown_Screenshot_2019.06.18_-_19.59.04.65.png

brisk thorn Jun 19, 2019, 12:08 AM

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Here is another picture of it as well... Looks like it's on a wall

📎 Hunt_Showdown_Screenshot_2019.06.18_-_19.58.58.26.png

short gale Jun 19, 2019, 1:07 AM

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what are the beasts?

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are they monsters or demons

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still

burnt orchid Jun 19, 2019, 1:25 AM

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Both, to some extent

zealous bone Jun 19, 2019, 1:38 AM

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It seems like part demonic posession part insect/vermin based "plague".

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Grunts' for example are actually host to swarms and swarms of little larvae and their heart acting as a tool to give them nutrients. While also exhibiting signs of "resisting" their actions. Torn muscles and ligiments and the like.

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 1:40 AM

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@zealous bone @short gale you can both find out most of the lore by checking the pinned messages in the hardcore lore chat

short gale Jun 19, 2019, 2:11 AM

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yeah i dont play a lot of shit with demons

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 2:25 AM

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@short gale what do you mean? They're not demons on the classical sense

zealous bone Jun 19, 2019, 2:31 AM

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Aye. More a less overt/more complex posession.

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To my reading at least.

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 2:45 AM

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^ fairly accurate

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📎 8b97c00.jpg

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Teddy Roosevelt was an avid hunter...,...

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cough cough

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Also I'm pretty sure the Caldwell we know is Samuel's son

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Oh I'm retarded

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His name is literally caldwell

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facepalm

zealous bone Jun 19, 2019, 3:00 AM

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It also seems to target weak or otherwise mentally strained people.

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From the reading of the Hive's entry.

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The Hive in that being an extremely stressed/mentally broken widow mother of four.

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Or was it seven alive and four in the ground?

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I forget.

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Either way she had to many kids for one living mother and to many dead kids on top of that.

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 3:15 AM

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@zealous bone it doesn't seem to have a pattern, it seems to target pretty much everyone

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@slim hatch

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📎 8b97c00.jpg

zealous bone Jun 19, 2019, 3:16 AM

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I mean for general gruntery yeah but all the specials seem to be tied more concretely to some kind of suffering or pain?

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 3:16 AM

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Teddy's coming to the bayou to get his daughter back

zealous bone Jun 19, 2019, 3:16 AM

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I dunno just speculating mostly.

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Is he going go bring the Army.

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Please bring the Army.

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 3:17 AM

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Lol it's a reference to a headcannon that was spreading back in the early days of hunt

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About the president's daughter being kidnapped

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Completely false btw

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Just wanted to mess with essence

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@zealous bone anyway the specials also seem to have no rhyme or reason to their choice

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Armoureds were created among all walks of life

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The butcher was created by a perfectly same taxidermist

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Meatheads are demon babies

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(disclaimer no actual demons may be present)

zealous bone Jun 19, 2019, 3:19 AM

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Meatheads are... god damn.

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I read their whole thing.

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 3:19 AM

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They're fucking terrifying

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@sinful trout remember the president's daughter thing

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Well, look above

sinful trout Jun 19, 2019, 3:21 AM

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Stoooop

digital trail Jun 19, 2019, 3:21 AM

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God the meatheads are the most terrifying in the lore

sinful trout Jun 19, 2019, 3:21 AM

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omegaliplesshunter

digital trail Jun 19, 2019, 3:21 AM

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Agree wholeheartedly

zealous bone Jun 19, 2019, 3:22 AM

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Also I think when the ladies eyes started glowing and she started emitting steam.

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Demons are involved.

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I don't know if there's a scientific reasoning for going super saiyan while your pulse is gone.

digital trail Jun 19, 2019, 3:22 AM

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Well, things are absolutely involved although I hesitate to call em demons in the biblical sense

zealous bone Jun 19, 2019, 3:23 AM

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Could of been the world of The Hunt's inspiration for their biblical accounts.

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Though I know suggesting that may be dicey ground.

digital trail Jun 19, 2019, 3:24 AM

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Oh probably, Hunt's setting is absolutely steeped in the occult

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They offhandedly suspect something like the Loa animating the Grunts for example

zealous bone Jun 19, 2019, 3:26 AM

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Aren't they supposed to be like.

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Angels, though?

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I don't know much about Haitian Voudou or Voodoo or nothing so forgive.

digital trail Jun 19, 2019, 3:35 AM

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I don't know especially much either, but it is something stated in the monstorum

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As well, in the Louisiana Incident book, you have references to the cause of the problem being a "djinn"

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 3:36 AM

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cough voodoo

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Lots of hatian voodoo

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Any questions about voodoo can be sourcednro @late tinsel

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He's your guy

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(sorry for the ping I just wanted to let you know some people are talking about voodoo)

zealous bone Jun 19, 2019, 3:38 AM

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Isn't it Voodou in Haiti cause french.

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And Voodoo in Louisiana/continental America?

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 3:40 AM

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It's hatian creole voodoo

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In new Orleans p

zealous bone Jun 19, 2019, 3:54 AM

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I wonder if we'll see any Lovecraft stuff. Other than it being in a Bayou.

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Though that probably clash with the setting.

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A bit at least.

digital trail Jun 19, 2019, 4:16 AM

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From reading the lore, cosmic horror is something that is definitely going on

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Not straight up Lovecraftian

zealous bone Jun 19, 2019, 4:28 AM

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Yeah. No Shoggoths yet.

burnt wave Jun 19, 2019, 5:10 AM

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Roosevelt wasn't POTUS by the time the game takes place; he would only get in at the turn of the century after making his name as Ass. NAVSEC and Spanish-American War hero.

But he certainly would fit.

muted valley Jun 19, 2019, 6:03 AM

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I have many hours in the game but havent read much of the lore till now i only have a small idea of it,is there a way to read it through my android phone.If anyone has answers pls mention me in your replies.

restive patrol Jun 19, 2019, 6:08 AM

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@muted valley if you got the google docs app, you can just go to pinned messages and read through the official lore document that we have through Google docs

muted valley Jun 19, 2019, 6:30 AM

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@restive patrolThanks mate that was very helpul, is it possible to download it as a pdf or doc?And does it have everything as in the games library?

amber harbor Jun 19, 2019, 8:25 AM

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As far I understand, the Loa is your soul

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so they would be worshiping the equivalent of saints

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Also voudou doesn't have traditional angels, there are bad or good spirits

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I remember the loa was the soul, and there was another thing that simbolises the physical body

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so if the sculptor messes with the loa the body gets sick but it still functions

burnt wave Jun 19, 2019, 8:42 AM

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A: I mean, the Old Testament has God call down the Angel of Death to work through the firstborn population of Egypt, so there is that.

and

B: It's worth noting that Loa = Angels in Vodou is more due to the kind of crosspollination between the various Abrahamic faiths and West African religions....along with its own belief drift. So a lot of these critters are and likely were much less friendly or cuddly than we'd expect the Angels of an all-good God to be.

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(And even He could drop the Hammer, as point A shows)

lapis haven Jun 19, 2019, 9:00 AM

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Where’s this google doc on lore at

burnt wave Jun 19, 2019, 9:06 AM

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Didn't say it wasn't valid, I am a Christian after all. But in response to "angels wouldn't create a plague right?" the answer is clearly "yes they would" according to Christian dogma (and probably whatever parts were absorbed into Voudo).

The issue would be how and why (probably depending on if they were still loyal angels or demons), but that's neither here nor there

muted valley Jun 19, 2019, 9:18 AM

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@restive patrol ya i downloaded it in epub format,i converted it into mobi format,now i can read it in my kindle ,So thanks again

sinful trout Jun 19, 2019, 9:34 AM

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@lapis haven its in the pinned messages

lapis haven Jun 19, 2019, 9:35 AM

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Where would that be

sinful trout Jun 19, 2019, 9:40 AM

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Rb5ZTHorhSR4ReVsEGZKEQ4njrCo4JO18p7CcOzTe0/edit?usp=sharing :)

Google Docs

HUNT:Showdown Lore

Lore Document The purpose of this document is to reduce clutter on #lore-discussion, and to collate the information we have on lore within HUNT:Showdown. Character List Coroner Amos - Mentioned in “desk of a hunter”. Possibly the coroner at Blanchet cemetery Dr. Jo...

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Also heres a pdf version

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@proper cradle mind pinning this?^

muted valley Jun 19, 2019, 9:46 AM

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@sinful trout you made that doc right?thanks....is there complete lore as much as given in the game?

sinful trout Jun 19, 2019, 9:48 AM

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Yes i made it but its all official lore. All of the in ame monstrorvum book is in there

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Thinking about adding the louvent book

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In game*

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@muted valley

jagged quarry Jun 19, 2019, 10:23 AM

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sinful trout Jun 19, 2019, 11:07 AM

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Tha ks nex

quick prism Jun 19, 2019, 11:41 AM

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any lore explanation behind the Bloodlines?

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 12:49 PM

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Nothing concrete yet

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It could be referring to the serum in the blood of the hunters

sinful trout Jun 19, 2019, 1:08 PM

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I personally believe that its
the blood shsred between hunters via a ritual. But thats my own theories

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 1:26 PM

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My personal theory is that a bloodline is a group of hunters but that's just me

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No the Sinners are

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 2:33 PM

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They're a lot of things

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Read up on the Monstorvum part of the Google doc that var has pinned

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 2:59 PM

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Enjoy

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 3:18 PM

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📎 Capture.PNG

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/370142302196334593/585474330847346698/voynich.png

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DEATH

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it says death

sick vault Jun 19, 2019, 3:21 PM

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Isihm from the healing water compound lore is a legendary hunter, that's nice

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 3:22 PM

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these legendary hunters are....making the lore intereting

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 3:52 PM

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so we got our first look at female hunters

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401019644938289153/590929038865072129/unknown.png

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kirsten crafford

sick vault Jun 19, 2019, 3:53 PM

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There are more in the Hunter slot screen

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 3:54 PM

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i didn't see it

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mind linking a pic?

sick vault Jun 19, 2019, 3:54 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/401019644938289153/590929412485021735/unknown.png?width=720&height=377

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 3:55 PM

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neat

fresh valve Jun 19, 2019, 4:01 PM

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realizing i mentioned it in the wrong chat now

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 4:01 PM

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it's all good

fresh valve Jun 19, 2019, 4:01 PM

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one huntress was called > Countess

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 4:01 PM

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yeah

fresh valve Jun 19, 2019, 4:02 PM

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legendary title? special lore attribution?

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 4:02 PM

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we have a few "lords" in the game iirc

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it's probably just an honorific

fresh valve Jun 19, 2019, 4:02 PM

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gotcha

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was kinda hoping it would be tied to the voodoo stuff / spiritual happenings like with marie sending that letter to the director of aha

quick prism Jun 19, 2019, 4:10 PM

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i hope female hunters wont be common, females in roles like this in this time period would be very uncommon

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 4:10 PM

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if you read the lore they're actually fairly interesting

fresh valve Jun 19, 2019, 4:11 PM

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yeah i thought they were actually actively participating in the lore

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i mean. this isn't the real world so i mean why not.

quick prism Jun 19, 2019, 4:12 PM

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it is the real world tho

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it is america in 1895

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 4:12 PM

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because of the serum they have the ritual blood in their veins they gain an immense power while pregnant (really close connection to their power) but they give birth to meatheads so it's a really strange history

quick prism Jun 19, 2019, 4:12 PM

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thats certainly disturbing

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 4:12 PM

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yeah

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i'd suggest reading into the lore it's interesting

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Rb5ZTHorhSR4ReVsEGZKEQ4njrCo4JO18p7CcOzTe0/edit?usp=sharing 😃

Google Docs

HUNT:Showdown Lore

Lore Document The purpose of this document is to reduce clutter on #lore-discussion, and to collate the information we have on lore within HUNT:Showdown. Character List Coroner Amos - Mentioned in “desk of a hunter”. Possibly the coroner at Blanchet cemetery Dr. Jo...

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check out the monstorvum section

fresh valve Jun 19, 2019, 4:13 PM

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i mean they don't need to abide by world history, they can actually make people active instead of just side-lined and all that.

quick prism Jun 19, 2019, 4:13 PM

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i already have this document up, i check it occasionally when i can

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 4:13 PM

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yeah world history can go out the window a bit

quick prism Jun 19, 2019, 4:13 PM

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that is fine, but by abiding to the rules of your setting(which in this case, is 1800s america) improves the immersion and atmosphere

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im not against there being female hunters, since there were a few prominent wild west women

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 4:14 PM

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it needs to stay true to teh settings but the civil rights push was rising late 1800's

quick prism Jun 19, 2019, 4:14 PM

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but it shouldnt be a 50/50 division

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 4:14 PM

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and the hunters just care if you can kill not who you are

fresh valve Jun 19, 2019, 4:14 PM

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yeah i dont think you are, i think if anything it would be interesting to see a sect of huntresses that have that prominence that wild west women had

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but not like a wild over abundance

quick prism Jun 19, 2019, 4:18 PM

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the hunters might not care, but the higher ups of AHA might. not to mention, to become a hunter you probably already have some modicum of firearms or combat experience
most dads in this time werent really keen on their daughters breaking their norm. there's a whole society against you
ofc, a lot of country girls know/knew how to handle guns, but handling a gun isnt the same as actively searching out and killing people in cold blood

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 4:19 PM

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higher ups don;t

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they want the bounty

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you want money

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boom

sick vault Jun 19, 2019, 4:19 PM

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in the monster lore are a few examples how female hunters joined

quick prism Jun 19, 2019, 4:20 PM

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such as?

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 4:20 PM

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yeah

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check out the meathead lore

sick vault Jun 19, 2019, 4:21 PM

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the girl in the hive story wants to join after she "lost" her family to the monsters

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she even gets some special equipment build because she lost an arm iirc

quick prism Jun 19, 2019, 4:22 PM

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im not an expert on the sight, but a decent reason for female hunters to be sought after would be those that are more "gifted" with it, as in they have some inherent ability

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i dont remember if the setting magic was partly inherent or, exclusively taught

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i just skimmed it through earlier today

fresh valve Jun 19, 2019, 4:22 PM

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yeah, main disagreement is them caring. if someone shows up, says hey i'll go hunting and have their own weapons i dont see a reason why in an apocalyptic scenario the association thats already shady wouldnt just say go ahead and earn their money

sick vault Jun 19, 2019, 4:23 PM

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I just think that the AHA wont turn down motivated people, regardless of their gender

fresh valve Jun 19, 2019, 4:23 PM

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^

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also i think anyone that has dark sight is immediately recruited, no matter gender

quick prism Jun 19, 2019, 4:23 PM

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yeah thats fine, the US army was largely the same in some regards

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buffalo bill had a female companion who was recruited as a scout, calamity jane i think

amber harbor Jun 19, 2019, 4:24 PM

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from a game standpoint, making female hunters more rare might impact female players

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also SJW stuff

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also keep in mind the AHA is not a traditional army

quick prism Jun 19, 2019, 4:25 PM

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i dont think bringing modern politics and culture into this is the way to go about

amber harbor Jun 19, 2019, 4:25 PM

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I'm just saying from a business standpoint it doesn't make sense

quick prism Jun 19, 2019, 4:27 PM

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anyway, it isnt necesserily about AHA being ok or not ok with people or their backgrounds, more about how people lead up to becoming hunters

amber harbor Jun 19, 2019, 4:27 PM

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Also @fresh valve hunters gain dark sight when they take part in the initiation ritual, I don' t think you can have it otherwise

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just now I realise your profile pic isn't Jesus omegaliplesshunter

quick prism Jun 19, 2019, 4:29 PM

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its gun jesus

fresh valve Jun 19, 2019, 4:29 PM

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sure, if that is the case then i get it, but if someone gains dark sight from the ritual they're in. that's it. getting into the initiation itself though is where i lean on the idea that in this scenario, a lot of world values are kinda lost and reconsidered when bug spirits infecting humans and making bee people.

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i think.

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its cyber jesus wdym

quick prism Jun 19, 2019, 4:30 PM

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the whole world isnt infested however, from the clippings ive read its restricted to lousiana

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hell, most people just think its the poor people getting the plague

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maybe this actually happend for all we know 🤔

amber harbor Jun 19, 2019, 4:30 PM

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there are more events across time and place, but they are restricted to that location

quick prism Jun 19, 2019, 4:30 PM

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ye

fresh valve Jun 19, 2019, 4:30 PM

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i mean its the south dude theres a distinct chance this actually happened lmao

quick prism Jun 19, 2019, 4:31 PM

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indeed plays banjo

fresh valve Jun 19, 2019, 4:31 PM

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yeah i think its popped up elsewhere but the main exposure is in Louisiana? i could absolutely be wrong there

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or at least the biggest exposure is there

quick prism Jun 19, 2019, 4:32 PM

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dont think we've received much info on it

amber harbor Jun 19, 2019, 4:32 PM

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something special happened in louisiana

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seems like most monsters were created then

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 4:48 PM

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They didn't tend to allow female hunters in until an updated version of the serum that worked as a contraceptive was implemented

burnt orchid Jun 19, 2019, 9:31 PM

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i usualy cringe when games try to add diversity that didnt exist at the time, but i do believe female hunters will add to the immersion of hunt

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most Hunters are desperate people who dont really have much else to turn tho

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and that condition can strike anyone regardless of gender

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also this is not an apocalyptic scenario

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events dont really grow, they just happen

forest condor Jun 19, 2019, 9:32 PM

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It's a dealing with an infestion scenario

burnt wave Jun 19, 2019, 10:31 PM

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If anything I would guess the opposite. The higher ups may not care now after that serum policy changed but a bunch of “private “ individual hunters may.

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In terms of in character selection... i don’t think it would make too much difference. Maybe 1 out of four to one half would produce a decent mix?

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As for diversity, I am no lover of shoving tokens in for the sheer hell of it, but I would be hard pressed to argue strong, independent women (TM) who knew their way around a weapon was not a thing in the 19th century US while he’ll spawn like the Spider were not.

Couple that with how every PC to this point is male and I think guys have a good head start

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Add in some more male skins along with the female ones and I figure it will work well. I mean, Black hunters seem well enough integrated compared to white ones

little sable Jun 19, 2019, 10:37 PM

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digital trail Jun 19, 2019, 10:37 PM

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variety is the spice of life, after all

sinful trout Jun 19, 2019, 11:14 PM

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@little sable im sorry but yes. Bunny died

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@burnt wave look at cryteks instagram post about female hunters

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https://www.instagram.com/p/Buvy9obFPte/?igshid=c0o6apxk7icq

Instagram

Hunt: Showdown on Instagram: “Happy #InternationalWomensDay ! ...

1,324 Likes, 24 Comments - Hunt: Showdown (@huntthegame) on Instagram: “Happy #InternationalWomensDay ! 🌸 These are the kind of women who would have been Hunters: Mary…”

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These women werent cintroversial, they werent hated. In fact they were more sdored by the public due to their "manliness" yeah still shitty but women who acted like men back then were treated differently than how they were treated in the 10/20's

burnt wave Jun 19, 2019, 11:27 PM

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@sinful trout I was mostly agreeing with you.

Though they were controversial among some people- hence why I mentioned some hunters. Heck, Nellie Bly was not exactly a gun toting bra burner and she first came to prominence arguing over an editorial that said women should focus on marriage and child rearing.

That does not mean that it was controversial for everyone- far from it- or Quelle Horror. But let us not pretend this was accepted by everybody in quite a way like male enlistment in the Army was.

Also, let’s face it: given the massive dysfunctions you can find in the average AHA meeting, misogyny is probably one of the less egregious sins

sinful trout Jun 19, 2019, 11:28 PM

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The aha seems very accepting as a gay hunter dio was in a hunt

digital trail Jun 19, 2019, 11:29 PM

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the AHA is very progressive, honestly

probably because of the rate of turnover and the relative lack of volunteers

burnt wave Jun 19, 2019, 11:30 PM

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Indeed. The AHA’s hierarchy is explicitly accepting of female hunters. Indeed the main concern they had even during the ban was not due to their gender so much as the.... unfortunate side effect of a woman with dark sight getting pregnant

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But the AHA as an organization would hardly mirror the opinions of every one of its members, mostly because they are often diametrically opposed. While a fair few Hunters value loyalty and sacrifice..... a lot of others are happy to shoot first, burn later, ask questions never

warm sequoia Jun 19, 2019, 11:39 PM

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You thought I was a hunter, but it was me, Dio!

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burnt wave Jun 19, 2019, 11:39 PM

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Since the three of us agree that it makes perfect sense that there would be female hunters, gay hunters, and female gay hunters, does it not also make sense that there would be misogynist and homophobic hunters?

After all, the Devs have described the AHA as more of an interest group than a disciplined unit. And as long as members comport themselves to a minimum standard that can embrace shooting each other dead in the field, why would they bother?

warm sequoia Jun 19, 2019, 11:41 PM

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On a more serious note, if female hunters have the potential to birth extremely powerful monsters I think that risk outweighs the benefits.

burnt wave Jun 19, 2019, 11:42 PM

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AHA recognized the problem when a husband hunter unofficially inducted his wife

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The idea they have is to get out ahead of it by bringing them in from the cold... and giving them a serum that renders them infertile

warm sequoia Jun 19, 2019, 11:45 PM

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I didn't know about the serum, if they can do that then I don't see anything stopping female hunters from being a thing.

burnt wave Jun 19, 2019, 11:49 PM

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Yeah, that is what the AHA concluded

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IIRC it is in the lore document

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@warm sequoia found it.

Meathead entry 3.

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“The AHA stands at a crossroads. A transformation began with the death of Mrs. Kinney, and our actions now will determine the path both the AHA, and Mankind, will be forced to follow. If only the couple had known to use the new serum in their initiation rite. As you know, women are welcome among our ranks today, as the latest serum - the very serum that allows us to walk among the infected and that gifts us with the Sight - also prevents conception. This information should not have been kept from you. It was both unethical and unwise. So much horror could have been avoided.”

earnest jungle Jun 20, 2019, 12:48 AM

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Someone should update the lore document to include the new Legendary Hunters.

forest condor Jun 20, 2019, 2:04 AM

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@burnt wave "while a fair few hunters value loyalty and sacrifice"

Most hunters are selfish, they're known for not being good people, I mean they kill each other out of greed.
The devs have said they're not good people and I would definitely not go as far as to say they're above killing without honor

little sable Jun 20, 2019, 3:53 AM

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they should add some kind of monkey zombies

earnest jungle Jun 20, 2019, 3:58 AM

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Hey I just found something interesting.

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There actually IS a Mental Hospital in Jackson Louisana

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The East Louisiana State Hospital was opened in 1847 by the Louisiana state legislature.

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AND In 1895 (when the Louisiana Incident occurred) the New Orleans Civil Sheriff transported 80 patients to the asylum. Also interesting is relative to the time the East Louisiana State Hospital was better than most as it did not practice Eugenics.

burnt wave Jun 20, 2019, 4:08 AM

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@forest condor "Most hunters are selfish, they're known for not being good people, I mean they kill each other out of greed.
The devs have said they're not good people and I would definitely not go as far as to say they're above killing without honor"

That's why I only said a Fair Few

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There's still Hunter, what was his name.. John Hunter. Who talks a good talk about people who will die for you

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But yes, that is DECIDEDLY a minority viewpoint

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Both in game and in the lore

slim hatch Jun 20, 2019, 8:33 AM

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Hayward

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Aka the Legendary Hunter

grand wind Jun 20, 2019, 9:56 AM

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The legendary hunters are cool, dont get me wrong, but... i thought that we would have customizable hunters (ethnicith, face, closthing etc... im really dissapointed...

sterile sonnet Jun 20, 2019, 10:02 AM

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i would have liked that too yea , it was implied that would be the case too but…anyways wrong chanal for this

slim hatch Jun 20, 2019, 1:39 PM

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That’s not lore

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Hayward is dead

sinful trout Jun 20, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Hayward in its purest form was a nod to the austin development team for their efforts in hunt.

forest condor Jun 20, 2019, 2:58 PM

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But we do know that hunters share abomd with their partner, we also know they don't care how they kill their opposition

sinful trout Jun 20, 2019, 5:00 PM

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@forest condorwhen did we learn that? I missed it

forest condor Jun 20, 2019, 5:58 PM

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@sinful trout I'm mainly basing it off of the bunny story and the John hunter stories, they both shared a great bond with their counter parts

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As well as the waterdevil stories where the two hunters were perfectly fine with killing the two afflicted hunters from the safety of cover

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Which can't be considered honorable

forest condor Jun 20, 2019, 7:18 PM

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Are grunts just breeding grounds

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That search for food to sustain their internal hive

digital trail Jun 20, 2019, 7:42 PM

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Searching for food to sustain, or searching for food just for the act of consumption maybe

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What details do we have about the Sculptors?

forest condor Jun 20, 2019, 7:53 PM

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Sculpter, as in one

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We know other entities exist but we only have one confirmed sculpter

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Also have you read the grunt lore @digital trail?

sinful trout Jun 20, 2019, 8:38 PM

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We do know why they come here

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"hunger"

amber harbor Jun 20, 2019, 9:08 PM

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Sculptor is a type of entity

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It's implied there was at least one before

sinful trout Jun 20, 2019, 9:28 PM

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mm

digital trail Jun 20, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Yeah that was my understanding of the lore, that Sculptors were how the AHA described entities that did shit like in Louisiana

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Morphing life into different shapes for different purposes

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Also: Blanchett Graves. That growth in the centre of the church- is that where the Louisiana Sculptor entered our reality?

forest condor Jun 20, 2019, 9:58 PM

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Nooo, we don't know much at all about th sculpter

restive patrol Jun 21, 2019, 5:27 AM

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@grand wind customizable hunters are on the roadmap, slated for a post 1.0 release

slim hatch Jun 21, 2019, 9:14 AM

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@digital trail Nah due to lack of data answer is atm. NO, it seems like a concentration of the chitin it's all around places seems to be one of the aspects. I think you can find more info on it in QnA1 or QnA2

grand wind Jun 21, 2019, 9:14 AM

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@restive patrol really?Nice!!!

forest condor Jun 21, 2019, 12:12 PM

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@grand wind @restive patrol guys this is the lore discussion chat not the ideas discussion chat

old kite Jun 21, 2019, 12:42 PM

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Where does the Sculptor originate from? Is it from this world or another?

slim hatch Jun 21, 2019, 12:45 PM

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Another dimension @old kite

old kite Jun 21, 2019, 12:52 PM

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So when we banish the "boss" we are banishing them to the other dimension permanently or temporarily?

sinful trout Jun 21, 2019, 12:58 PM

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@old kite to be technical. "The sculptor" originated from a letter written by petella. We automatically assumed the entity surrounding the event was a sculptor. All we have to go off of is "we may have a sculptor on our hands"
We know there are several entities surrounding the event but whenever we ask the devs about the sculptor they respond with "your sculptor" as in to say that what we call a sculptor isnt a sculptor at all.
I cant be the only one that's noted this @slim hatch. Can someone crush my fears? Or are they completely valid. I feel we based something off a huge assunption and have gone with it as fact.
Perhaps every time we ask a question about the sculptor, the reason they answer with no or yes is because its not what a sculptor is

slim hatch Jun 21, 2019, 12:59 PM

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Well

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The term sculptor

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Is just the term we agreed upon to refer to the entity behind the Louisiana Event

sinful trout Jun 21, 2019, 12:59 PM

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One of the entities*

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But how do we differentiate which one it is

quick prism Jun 21, 2019, 1:12 PM

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reads hunt lore

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fly crawls on my hand

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oh shidd

sinful trout Jun 21, 2019, 1:13 PM

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Oh hi momma shell

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Whats up

digital trail Jun 21, 2019, 1:43 PM

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Okay so the Sculptor, we can all agree:

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associated with "insects" and hunger

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is responsible for the Spider, Assassin, Armored, Hive, and Grunts beyond a shadow of a doubt

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prefers insect motifs for its creations/corruptions (ossified wasp paper in the armored, the Hive's womb-nest, spider's body, assassin's collective swarm, Grunt's circulatory system)

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Meanwhile, Hellhounds, Meatheads, Immolators, Water Devils, and Butchers don't fit this

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Hellhounds may just be Grunted dogs but I'm not 100% on board with that

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So we have evidence of several entities manipulating things in the Event

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Specifically in regards to Water Devils- they're a different entity's creation, one I associate with parasites and water

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In my personal headcanon, I associate this entity with meatheads as well

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Thoughts?