already got the first batch transcribed
#lore-discussion
sick epoch
sinful trout
yeah thats armored 4 confirmed
the hive one is not bugged
we have that one
its my bad
we actualy needed 4 but i posted for 3
sick epoch
My hunt keeps crashing lol
sick epoch
You need imo 3 tho?
sinful trout
right right
sick epoch
so if you need the 3rd imolator
I got that, but other than that I think I'm fresh out of lore for you good sir
sinful trout
immolator would be brilliant
SINNERS ALERT SINNERS HAVE BEEN MENTIONED IN ARMORED 4
sick epoch
My steam isn't connecting so I'll have to restart my computer I guess lol
Immolator on it's way tho
sinful trout
kk
sinful trout
on it
sick epoch
sinful trout
done
working on cleanup now
Found more stupid ramblings by winkler. who solved the last one @forest condor ?
PROPTEREALAETAMINICAELIETQVIHABITATISINEISVAETERRAEETMARIQVIADESCENDITDIABOLVSADVOSHA BENSIRAMMAGNEMSCIENSQVODMODICVMTEMPVSHABET
its all webbing togetrer
this is crazy @sick epoch
youve given us a great gift
sinful trout
@forest condor any clue as to who figured out the ramblings from last time?
sick epoch
oh boi
PROP TEREA LAET AMINICA ELIETQVI HABITAT ISINEISVAETERRAEETMARIQVIA DESCEND IT DIABOL VS ADVOSHA BEN SIR AMMA GNEM SCIENS QVOD MODIC VM TEMP V SHABET
seems like latin
Throw in real time on the candidate list habitat is therein.Woe to the sea and to test the candidate of the devil IT
VS to you having great wrath, knowing little WHICH HAS US TEMP M
messing with it a little gave me this
I think the great wrath and woe to the sea
are right
If I had to guess, it'd be something like
We are seeing more denziens of hell. Woe to the earth and sea, the devil's servants walk among us. We have brought great wrath down upon us for our ignorance. Repent ye sinners.
languid bough
@sinful trout Can you update your message with the missing part of the monstrum?
sinful trout
Sure thing 1 sec
sinful trout
@amber harbor thanks!
Grunt:6
Armored:5
Hive:4
Immolator 4
Meathead 3
Hellhound 4
Waterdevil 3
languid bough
Ok thanks, working on Hive 4 et water 3. But with other players it's not always easy x)
amber harbor
ACCOUNT OF HEAVEN AND WHO INI happily live without to the earth and the sea, the devil has gone up to you because he knows his time is short
this is what google translate says
ACCOUNT of my last friends happily living without to the earth and the sea, the devil has descended because he knows his time is short
this is what I think it might mean
I think a better way to decode it would be submitting it to r/latin
we will find better translations there
sterile sonnet
^good idea
forest condor
There's a subreddit for everything
sinful trout
@forest condor the documents are disproportionate. As the first flavour text part comes in the form of an intro and actually doesnt count towards the numbers. So 5 is 6. 2 is 3 so on
@amber harbor smart, yeah i know you took out letters n shit from the last cipher
forest condor
Oh lol
amber harbor
The full translation is here
"because of it, rejoice of the sky, and you who live in them, woe to the earth and sea, because the devil comes down to you, having great wrath, knowing that he has little time"
Props to Lobstopus for translating
sick epoch
I was pretty close
sinful trout
confirmed lore why crows arent affected
stiff vector
forest condor
finally, my religion is relevant...
sinful trout
@stiff vector execute the duck lover
forest condor
noooooo
stiff vector
I shall let him live
forest condor
Thank you great fab
sinful trout
FOR NOW
forest condor
Also, do you have a buzzer that alerts you when someone says water fowl
Duck
Anyway
The passage is from the book of Revelation
Chapter 12 verse 12
amber harbor
Deus ye vult et
forest condor
Deus ye vult et
languid bough
Te tluv ey sued
late tinsel
Deus ye vult et, Hunter.
primal pulsar
where can I find hunt showdown font?
slim hatch
In the credits and wrong channel
forest condor
@swift silo over here
actually i gtg but ask some questions and if I can't answer them quickly somebody else will probably be able to
swift silo
jolly karma
Have we learned anything more about the process of becoming a Hunter and acquiring Dark Sight?
languid bough
Not really
forest condor
@jolly karmawe know there's an initiation but not much else. Theories range from rituals to using demon blood to it's hereditary
To a mixture of the three
slim hatch
Hereditary is based on early hunter’s letter to his daughter
Later seems to be debunked or put under question by writers while emphasizing it being gained vis ritual.
About Demon blood no idea where that comes from
Never seen or heard before
late tinsel
I think demon blood theories stem from Hunters noting whatever their curse is, it’s in the blood. At this point, it’s all speculation.
amber harbor
Maybe its in the blood, and the ritual just channels that power in a useable form
But then again just speculation
forest condor
Some sort of inert power brought to life?
amber harbor
Yeah
Like just with the blood you get spidey sense
but you don't know what causes it
vs the ritual which lets u see exactly where the evil is
I hope they do some sort of environmental storytelling via the shooting range map
late tinsel
I’m not so sure there’s actually some supernatural blood involved (fear the old blood), so much as it’s a ritual that involves the hunter’s blood and invites supernatural forces into it.
sinful trout
That would be interesting
languid bough
Maybe we could see a true ritual in the shooting range, it would be so cool. Like you're here and far away there is a guy drink something from an old cup. And then you saw the power surging from him.
late tinsel
“Howdy! Excuse me while I drink this demon juice!”
amber harbor
I believe they would be more subtle about it
like not actually show the ritual, but leave tools and documents lying around
late tinsel
^ agreed. It’s much more shrouded in shadow and mystery. I doubt we’ll ever have full details before or after 1.0.
If they ever DID give us the full details, it’d be neat to have it in a tutorial where a new hunter is joining the AHA. The fact that DS is granted through a mysterious ritual is common knowledge to hunters, but we the players have no idea what that entails.
sinful trout
I also think in the shooting range that there will be a little area of initiation
Also does anyone else think that thr shooting range will be in the fort maccarmack picture that they posted with the flavor text?
late tinsel
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if the shooting range was set up by Finch’s cabin.
Considering that’s a place of rest for Hunters, they probably screw around out there and set up targets.
forest condor
hmmmmm
remember the whole text about how hunters saw a clue off in the distance, one followed the pull and found the spider
(btw this is irrelevant but my chrome had the page pulled up even though i didn't click anything wtf)
"We, the Hunters, blocked it out for too long. We saw the things hidden there, confined to arteries. Living in the pulse."
sinful trout
Hmm
See... Now it seems so obvious
And they like to shit on me with obvious
I want to ask for like a hint but that would be pestering and we promised we wouldnt
wind shuttle
Hunting Showdown for PS4? 😃
late tinsel
Wrong channel @wind shuttle. This is for lore discussion.
wind shuttle
Thank you @late tinsel where is the chat for that? 😃 Because I was looking but could not find it. Al so I am kind of new here.
late tinsel
No problem! Welcome to the Hunt community! Give #hunt-general a try.
That or #game-questions
wind shuttle
Thank you again 😃
jolly karma
So, I have three lore questions.
- Is the Bayou an isolated incident, or have there been other events like it throughout history?
- Was it possible for what was in the Bayou to spread? Does anything there linger to the modern day?
- Are there still hunters operating in modern times? How have things changed?
languid bough
- Yes there incident in the past. It said for example that we are not witnesses the first wellspring event. Also the dev tell us there other hunt organisation all around the worl, so those event doen't only occur in america.
- They could be something in modern day, we don't really know what happen now in the universe of hunt. Maybe we expel of those "demons" and we are safe now?
- We don't know.
slim hatch
Correction on 3.
The are clearly remnants of AHA or organization of that sort.
Ref: This day in 1895 series
But if there is an active organisation in 'present day' is unknown as focus is 1895
languid bough
Yeah true.
forest condor
@jolly karma clarification on one, there are incidents all over the world, they're not extreamly common, but common enough that there are other groups outside the AHA, we only know of the sinners right now, (muslums in the middle East)
languid bough
Water devil 3/5 :
amber harbor
That's an interesting take on the ritual
slim hatch
I'll not read!
I shall not read!
I shall unlock it all
And read in one go!
Junkie urges commence now
forest condor
Don't forget your vitality shot
sinful trout
Done
rotund ferry
why does the water devil lroe talk so much about alligators or even the name gator
like in the first page alone they talk about how alligators survived water devils
amber harbor
I believe that if the gators were the only thing that survived they would have smth that helped them survive and they would still be a threat
But almost all wd lore is fiction as stated in the first two parts
So mustbe taken with a grain of salt
rotund ferry
that is also very true
ya know just the 0.000001% of chance it could lead to something
jolly karma
Is the vitality syringe supernatural in nature
slim hatch
Unknown until book of weapons / items comes out
languid bough
Meathead 3/5 :
forest condor
@jolly karma until then consider it cocaine because that was a common pain medication in that time
amber harbor
Or it might be gameplay related and the only lore we'll get on it is "It just works"
@languid bough Great work getting the lore!
It's beginning to get spicy
warm sequoia
Does anyone understand the second butcher entry?
jolly karma
Makes sense
languid bough
The next part of the hive should be coming soon, I'm close to complete it
devout cedar
I am close to completing the book
sinful trout
I look foreward to it!
sinful trout
Oh jeez i go offline for 24 hours and theres so much to transcribe
Give me till end day
Ill have it done
forest condor
Okay, update on dark sight, we know there is an initiation ritual and that an incantation is required to use it. (I assume that's the whispering you hear when using it in game) we also know there is some presence of it in the blood of hunters as seen in the lore docs.
1. Darksight can be forcibly activated since the hunters weren't activating it.
2. This blue clue effect is completely new and encountered for the first time when interacting with shaper energy. ```See i have issues with that as the doc with the water devil says that normally it shows blue flakes where the contract was,
Also when does it say that hunters werent activating it? ```their targets, a bouquet of blue sparks where their targets are
sinful trout
Just curious. What are you missing to complete the book? @devout cedar
ALSO ID LIKE TO REMND EVERYONE THAT THERE ARE 6 TEXTS FOR EACH MONSTER LORE IN THE MONSTORVUM. AS THEFLAVOUR TEXT IN THE BEGINNING IS TECHNICALLY A LORE DOC, BUT JUST NOT COUNTED IN THE 4/5 NUMBERING
@jolly karma also i speculate that the vitality shot is more morphine and the stamina to be methamphetamines
devout cedar
@sinful trout Water devils, assasin, immolator... armored and hives are really close tho
sinful trout
Hold up.
forest condor
Oof, I read the lore doc wrong. I interpreted "seeing the first" to mean the first time ever using darksight to track something, not as seeing the first glimpse of a bounty
sinful trout
Grunt:6
Armored:5
Hive:4
Immolator 4
Meathead 4
Hellhound 4
Waterdevil 4
Got any of these? @devout cedar
If so send me a dm with screenshots and id really appreciate it
devout cedar
i will check
languid bough
Yes there are 6 part, you have a unlock for each number present in the book (0, 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5) So technicaly, when I said 4/5 it's the fourth unlock since I just go to the next chapter.
languid bough
@sinful trout I posted the Waterdevil 4 yesterday. I can resend it in private if you want
sinful trout
I saw it. I downloaded, but i wont be able to transcribe fully until aroun 6 my time..m its 2 rn
languid bough
Ok, I just check to be sur since you put Waterdevil 4 on your recap.
sinful trout
all done
sinful trout
@minor peak " The specimen was fresh, but our time limited In the forty minutes we spent there, it's a sure death to spend more than an hour in the hunting grounds, "
forest condor
@sinful trout link to teh big doc please?
steel stone
I'm gonna call that the new lore piece on their blog is factor in how immolators happened
gleaming pawn
what's the lore behind this?
forest condor
Hunter possessed by the sculpter 1895 colorized
sinful trout
@steel stone we know how immolators happened
"*I was on the edge of my seat, barely daring to breathe lest I distract the boy from the course of his story. His breath had quickened. The memory clearly disturbed him. I Must know more!
"He kept right on screaming, and then there was a light, like fire, and he begun to burn. Didn't see anyone light a match he...he just.
And that is when that idiot of an altar boy came screaming into the church, having just received the morning paper, saying that Reverend By Me was missing and two found dead out in the Bayou and had I seen the news?
The boy fled. Though I caught site of his back as he sped through the church doors, I doubt I will see him again.*"
Also abig thanks to @devout cedar and @sick epoch for the big lore push!
amber harbor
What if inside all explosive barrel was an apprentice of the guy in the lore draft and the hitmarker you get is actually them ?
forest condor
That's......not okay
Because it doesn't explain beartraps
Ofc
everything is people the walls have ears nothing is safe
swift sparrow
so, is this for demon hunting irl or just a game?
i might be in the wrong place.
forest condor
Just a game
swift sparrow
fuck
forest condor
Or is it
We have many leads but very few imperical facets
But there's a shocking amount of correlation into the real world
Ideas placed through fiction meeting a corpreal fate
But yeah it's for a game
(it's great lore though)
swift sparrow
now thinking about it a hunter would make this server look like its for a game but really it would be for hunters to come to find leads, so, if this isnt for a game you would be able to tell me
swift sparrow
damn it.
forest condor
Yeah, sorry about that.
swift sparrow
you wouldnt happen to know of any hunters that have any open cases would you?
forest condor
Not personally no
little forge
Does anyone know where the location of the game takes place?
forest condor
Lousiana bayou
swift sparrow
i could share, im looking into a werewolf case @forest condor
forest condor
@little forgecomfirmed
little forge
kk
swift sparrow
Huh?
little forge
Is there any videos i can watch to get caught up with the lore?
sinful trout
Videos? Mm, scatterred.
Heres everything we know so far https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Rb5ZTHorhSR4ReVsEGZKEQ4njrCo4JO18p7CcOzTe0/edit?usp=sharing
Theres more but thats the majority of it
sinful trout
@sick epoch how much hellhound do you have?
worthy topaz
I wish that Hunt was an animated series / anime series on Netflix
it has such a great setting and potential for lore
that it would be an interesting intellectual property to expand to other media
sinful trout
regal schooner
Just to be clear, Ruth Shell is a hive right?
sinful trout
No, ruths mom turned into a hive
devout cedar
Hey, is there anyone who completed Monstrvm ?
forest condor
Not yet
devout cedar
I'm suprised
forest condor
I think we have grunt 5
devout cedar
I can give lot of pages, but im lazy haha
forest condor
Ok
sterile rampart
i think those were not posted yet?
waterdevil 5/6
Meathead 4/6
Armored 5/6
Hive 5/6
Hive 6/6
sinful trout
Its done. Give me a secibd to turn my conputer on to clean it up
@devout cedar what we need from you is those hellhound entries (just send me all so i can pick which ones i need.) And meathead 5
@sterile rampart good job loki!!
sterile rampart
since you need a hellhound
Hellhound 3/6
Hellhound 4/6
Hellhound 5/6
Cant see which bosses you do have, so:
Assassin 3/6
Butcher 3/6
Spider 3/6
Spider 4/6
sinful trout
god damn loki good job
thanks for making more work for me !!!
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
also holy shit ada shell was a one armed hunter
forest condor
but....barbed wire cricket bad and mechanical hand?
sinful trout
ALRIGHTY FOLKS, ARMORED HIVE AND GRUNT ARE DONE!!! THANKS TO @sterile rampart @devout cedar AND @sick epoch NOW WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE OTHERS!!!
forest condor
Desu ye Vult et
OH SHIT
reading meathead and it explains why females weren't allowed into the ranks
demon babies
forest condor
woudnt it not matter if they were pregnant before or after the initation?
the parent and child still share blood in the beginning
sinful trout
its hard to say as phillip didnt seem to have a problem with the fact that she was a woman until he found out she was pregnant
"When our AHA chapter was first founded many, many years ago, there were but few female initiates. Three were initiated, and they thrived as well as any who have chosen to bear such a burden. However, after a time, it was found that one of these initiates was with child. Though we did not know it, this condition in the Initiated is extremely dangerous,"
maybe if you join in you have to be strilized
sterilized *
slim hatch
@sinful trout highly doubt sterilization because we know hunters have children
The pregnancy can be dangerous during initiation as body probably undergoes some changes
Which if you look at it logically your body is changing / mutating and you’ve another smaller body in you
Obv that could lead to unexpected or dangerous results
It’s same as undergoing chemo or heavy medical treatment with radiation etc. during pregnancy
Due to unpredictable effects on fetus it’s considered dangerous
sinful trout
did you read the entry essence?
slim hatch
Addressing point didn’t get to it
sinful trout
alright
slim hatch
What an i missing?
slim hatch
What am*
slim hatch
Whose lore is it under? As you know i’m quite a long term away
sinful trout
hunt lore doc
slim hatch
Yeah again which lore topic is it under?
Don’t have time to read it all yet
Hive, Armor, Grunt, your snobby attitude?
Save me time
sinful trout
meathead
slim hatch
See wasn’t that hard
slim hatch
Yeah playing smart-ass kinda rude you know. Look into mirror in that regard
sinful trout
sigh jesus christ here we go again
slim hatch
“Hey which filing cabinet are the financial reports in?”
-In one of them.
^ that’s your response
sinful trout
"Whose lore is it under?"
theres two monstorvum docs, the hunt one which i manage and the monstorvum one which arpy manages
"HES BEING MEAN"
your response^
slim hatch
Yeah and which chapter or you expect me to read it all?
slim hatch
Yeah i’ve contributed enough already so quit acting important
slim hatch
You’re
sinful trout
how about i leave for a bit for you to calm your little hissy fit
slim hatch
How about you reflect a bit on your behavior and toxic attitude?
sinful trout
sorry i didnt give you EXACLY what you wanted
slim hatch
Which isn’t helpful at all
slim hatch
Your response was useless so either you’re oblivious how useless it was or you were malicious
Pick
sinful trout
essence you want to cry and bitch because i pointed you in the right direction and didnt hold your hand to the destination
then go ahead
but just so you know
not holding your hand
is not the same
as being toxic
theres 2 fucking documents. one isnt fully updated. so the lore entry is not in it yet
the other is
slim hatch
Okay so then whenever person asks who is Huff instead of pointing toward character sheet or specific lore pieces we will just say “Lore doc”
Go figure right?
sinful trout
youre going in circles
slim hatch
That’s the difference
sinful trout
so im going to back out while you calm down
slim hatch
Speak for yourself I’m quite calm enjoying my coffee
I guess I'll have to teach you basics of English.
slim hatch
slim hatch
slim hatch
First one is Whose
Whose lore
You have no lore
You're not part of the lore
You don't write lore
I didn't ask
"Whose lore doc is it under"
So in that context your response if anything was rude and useless.
So quit being a malicious little kid who is still buttohurto about our past disagreements.
And take responsibility
sinful trout
im not the one whos being a child
slim hatch
Sure man sure.
sinful trout
youre angry because i didnt pinpoint where exactly to look
"because youre too rushed and dont have time to look for yourself"
forest condor
"which lore topic" there are many lore topics. the broadest of which are sections of the lore. character lists, transcribed posters, and monstvorm are good examples of these. a good way to specify what you meant would have been to say which monstorvm section is it under
slim hatch
Because "Thanks genius like if i don't know where it is..."
@forest condor Initially i asked whose
Aka
which character
Which creature
as this lore clearly originates from
Creature lore
slim hatch
I don't care what you hear.
burnt storm
Are you guys wasting time on technicalities again? 
sinful trout
essence is mad because i didnt pinpoint where ecactly to go
burnt storm
It’s really time to stop doing that at this point
sinful trout
if youd like to read up arricado
slim hatch
@burnt storm well then you explain it to them?
sinful trout
you can see i was never tryinng to be rude
forest condor
whose is also confusing because that's singling out each monster as an individual instead of acknowledging that there are many of each
so whose doesn't work
slim hatch
As lore topics
forest condor
grammer nazi away
slim hatch
It's a classification
sinful trout
@burnt storm she even made a neat little screenshot where it started
slim hatch
Yeah i did
forest condor
but that's all semantics
there was a miscommunication over a text based messaging service
not uncommon
both of you make up and move on plz, no need to overract
burnt storm
Why can’t you be friends? 😢
burnt storm
But yeah let’s not start arguments out of nothing
sinful trout
i never intended to
burnt storm
I’ve read the whole thing, let’s just move on please
sinful trout
sounds wonderful
forest condor
holy shit
sinful trout
sigh
slim hatch
I messed up?
sinful trout
youre in no position to tell him how to do his job @slim hatch
slim hatch
I'm in whatever position i choose to be.
forest condor
Whose in that context refers to the writer of the doc
So yeah, you mistyped. Which is okay
People make mistakes
sinful trout
lets just all move on to healthy discussion please?
slim hatch
Why the hell would i care who wrote the doc?
No
I want a result
Now i want blood
Here rule violated
forest condor
@slim hatch cause there are several docs with different curatora
slim hatch
Projecting labels that aren't true aka slander is disrespectful trying to paint me in bad light?
sinful trout
@burnt storm i apologize that youve been roped into this
sinful trout
"your snobby attitude"
"Yeah playing smart-ass kinda rude you know. Look into mirror in that regard
"
sound familliar?
please essence just drop it, i thought you asked for which doc so i pointed it out, when you asked for chapter i pointed it out. just chill please.
slim hatch
Man this isn't a one off case
sinful trout
-.- sigh
slim hatch
Frankly put you've been passive aggressive to me ever since our big disagreement.
It was kinda just "Enough is enough"
You've lead me to a point where I don't want to even participate in the lore activity.
sinful trout
alright, im stepping back, please consider returning to healthy discussion
slim hatch
Yeah we disagreed
But you constantly and repeatedly
Labelled me as something I'm not.
Been snarky and passive aggressive to me.
burnt storm
Honestly guys, reading all this back and knowing the whole history, I don’t think either of you are in a position to demand blood. You both have not been respectful to each other and it’s time to stop doing that. This is the last verbal warning.
slim hatch
Hey I've long ago stopped caring about that shit. But i kept on getting it even thought for me that shit was closed like 1 hour after our initial disagreement closed.
But it has been going for months now
forest condor
essence just calm down
slim hatch
Zip it arpy we will resolve it privately now
forest condor
it's over, lets just keep working on lore
slim hatch
None of your concern
burnt storm
That’s my power 🙃
forest condor
heck
slim hatch
🙃 Excuse me?
forest condor
🙃
sinful trout
ayyy
burnt storm
heck
sinful trout
slim hatch
When our AHA chapter was first founded many, many years ago, there were but few female initiates. Three were initiated, and they thrived as well as any who have chosen to bear such a burden. However, after a time, it was found that one of these initiates was with child. Though we did not know it, this condition in the Initiated is extremely dangerous, perhaps even more so than the creatures and monsters to which we have become accustomed to facing in our work
After the quickening, the mother began to show great power, more than we had ever seen in a single Hunter. We awaited the birth with trepidation. Toward the end of her term, the mother moved into AHA lodgings and one of our own doctors remained at her side at all times. She did not survive the birth. The child - or better put, demon, for the ritual blood in her veins took human form through the flesh of the foetus - killed 12 Hunters before it was laid to rest I need not tell you that the scene was gruesome, for the creature had acquired great powers through the body and the breath of the mother. Through this event, we first learned of these gruesome possibilities.
Okay so
Now covered that piece and it seems still in place
Hayward the legend of legends
Had a daughter probably conceived early in his career
So yeah i believe my take still has validity.
sinful trout
the daughter could have been born of a non hunter
slim hatch
It seems like being initiated during pregnancy has a very high danger level
And also drastically increases mother's power.
After all as implied Hunters change after their initiation ritual one thing is a fully formed body
Another thing is a developing body
And if we are to look at it from the angle of classical magic.
Magic flows through user.
sinful trout
TIL pro choice is now a superpower
slim hatch
XD
Fuck i choked
Anyway
Well technically if you've a very strong foe.
I could actually see AHA initiating pregnant women
In early pregnancy
To counter the menace and then killing them
sinful trout
pregnancy could be a viable option, but the after math would have to be dealt with
as it killed 13 hunters
slim hatch
^ Kill before
Yeah
you've 9 months
to kill the carrier
But during those 9 months ca probs -2 months at start and end
sinful trout
but i can see initiating pregnant women in secret
slim hatch
Where you've ultimate hunter
Yeah the later part also covered the fact
That people can do ritual in private as well
sinful trout
mainly because in almost all cases of pregnant women
they grow an attatchment to the baby within weeks
so it could wreak havoc if youre forcefully taking that baby away from them
not to mention if the female hunter went AWOL there would be a demon roaming the earth within 9 months
slim hatch
Yeah like case of
Kinney
"Together, they rid us of more terrible creatures than most of us will destroy in a lifetime. But in their place, they left something worse."
Now the question is
Is the danger only if initiation occurs during pregnancy
Or are women permanently barred from
Reproduction after initiation
Also i do believe Hayward's daughter was his own like his blood
sinful trout
my only thought on that subject is huffs usage of the words
slim hatch
Because he does mentions it being in her blood
sinful trout
after a time it was discovered
sinful trout
that leads me to believe that she became pregnant after the initiation
sinful trout
huff does say its in her blood
"the ritual blood"
which reinforces my idea of the AHA ritual of initiation is the sharing of blood
slim hatch
Ow yeah
But fuck many ways to interpret it
Is it sharing of blood in literal sense someone's blood
First hunter's blood?
Demon blood?
Or is it more metaphoric
as having sex?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Huff stop being cryptic!
sinful trout
personaly? i think the hunt lore dictates it being closer to demon or first hunter blood
I.E a being from the other realm lost some blood and we took it
slim hatch
I'd believe First hunter blood / initiated hunter blood
Because
with Demon / Being Blood
It's just like
We have
so far not seen a single entity from the other realm
All creatures we kill in game
Are of the Proto-earth just twisted by Entity
sinful trout
yeah
and the being we call an entity
might not even have a physical form
like the mist from... the mist
its technically alien
but its more of a brainwashing thing that makes you kill yourself
slim hatch
Or Entity from Dead by Daylight? Also has no form
sinful trout
the spikes that go through you are part of the entity
slim hatch
It has effect but it has no form
They are manifestation of it true
But okay that's not Hunt lore XD
sinful trout
thats a discussion for a different time
slim hatch
We need more info on Sculptor goddamn fuck dammit
sinful trout
but you get my point
slim hatch
Yeah
slim hatch
True
Well we can pile through that shit once we have it all and all of us read through it all to see if we can find anything
sinful trout
not to mention, assasin may not even be a being sculpted by a sculptor
so yeah, the working theory is first hunter blood and or demon blood is shared via initiation
afk so delayed response
slim hatch
I need to shower anyway so
Yeah but so far interesting but again more questions than answers
devout cedar
Do we have complete hellhound pages?
burnt storm
Our hero 
@devout cedar
devout cedar
@burnt storm I havent read a single word yet.
burnt storm
Me neither I want to open full entries myself and read them then
sinful trout
@devout cedar @burnt storm but you get such a better understanding of them by reading over and over again
devout cedar
tbh i dont care about the lore too much
burnt storm
Yeah I bet, I just have this weird itch to read them all at once and try to piece everything together
slim hatch
^ same
azure vessel
No
forest condor
@shadow gate grunts aren't braindead
earnest jungle
Look this isn't exactly the place for this. If you're salty some avtomat user killed you take it to Hunting Grounds Casual
noble vine
Imma just sneak in to give my thoughts about the mother iniciated to the hunters: Is it possible that with the iniciation you actually get a little under the sculptors influence? "you have to sacrifice something to achieve darksight" and maybe a baby is just an easy prey for the sculptor. Or did i miss something?
earnest jungle
My theory is that the ritual creates some form of connection between the Hunters and The Sculptor. This connection is slowly corrupting the hunters and if the hunter is pregnant their child. Resulting in a monstrosity that is a horrid combination of human and demon.
amber harbor
Do we know where bosses spawn? I know that when they die, they reappear somewhere else. Do they have any predisposition to certain conditions(weather, religious/voodoo /energy) or do they change the environment (besides infected/cocoons) to fit their needs?
sinful trout
Either is plausible @amber harbor and my theory @earnest jungle is that initiation is the sharing of blood between us and a being from another realm, this gives us the ability to do things like walk in the shade, and if you were pregnant than the baby inside you would be a second being who shared those abilities, and for the first little while, a phoetus essentially wants the same thing you do, so its possible you could use their power to acomplish things on your own, like having a power storage bank. But the blood soon after manifests into some sort of demon devil thing. See the movie looper for what i mean. As when the baby would be upset, it wouldnt know what to do so it would kill everything around it. Hence the 12 dead hunters
But thats just a theory
slim hatch
One thing i think we missed or didn't think about
Don't forget
Hunters deteriorate
It takes adults quite some time for the putrification process before they expire or revitalize using wellspring
One aspect of it we can take into consideration that child body is a lot weaker but also a lot more malleable compared to adult
So putrification process / corruption process is quite a lot faster and radical compared to an adult but also changes are far more drastic compared to a fully developed adult body.
Hence why a baby who was born from initiated or after initiation process would be a lot more adept and adjusted to the dark magic involved but it also would be a lot more twisted compared to an adult.
One analogy we could run is on a simple example everyone can reflect upon
Alcoholism
Child Alcoholism has huge and radical impact on the child's development and physiology
While for adult alcoholism has very slow detrimental effect over a period of time.
I know Dark Magic has nothing to do with Alcoholism but to kinda abstract the logic behind how things affect Adult vs Child body.
Another example is the chinese foot binding, impossible or nearly impossible to do for a late teen / adult but completely possible to do for a child which alters body and its functionality
But we still don't know what is involved in the ritual so we don't know what the catalyst for change is.
sinful trout
@slim hatch dont forget that humanity has a natural ability to adapt. So the more of something youre mother was exposed to in the womb, the more resistant your body CAN become to it. So perhaps that is why the child had so much power, perhaps its body sort of merged into a being that was able to co exist with the affliction
Your*
slim hatch
But adults are far more resistant to that change so how to put it. Yes child due to early exposure can develop in myriad of different ways while adult will maximum have genetical mutation very minor that will be passed down the bloodline
So if the lore does indeed take into account genetics.
Then essentially each new Generation of hunters would be a lot stronger and more adept to the dark magic involved
1895 to lets say 2019
That's more than 100 years of genetical mutation
Now if we take into account life-spans
That would be 2-4 generations
And cross breeding between hunters would create spurts of altered hunters
While breeding between hunters and uninitiated would water down the genetical print
slim hatch
I'd say it's fairly safe to assume that the older Hunter bloodline is the stronger their hunters are.
amber harbor
How come that if a male hunter has a baby it's fine?
slim hatch
We don't know yet.
Is it a factor if Huntress is pregnant during initiation
Or is it a factor for women in general?
Aka Female hunters should avoid breeding
Hayward had a daughter and she seems to be fine but he also mentions that she has inherited his curse
Which depending on if Hayward's wife was a hunter or not
We could get an answer
If Hayward's wife / partner wasn't a hunter it would be case of watering down genetical imprint and fetus developing in 'clean' environment
amber harbor
I'm guessing that the mother's body has more influence over the fetus because that's where it gets the genetic info
slim hatch
50/50
If hayward's wife / partner was a hunter then that would put in place that the danger of initiation is only if the female is pregnant during it
But safe afterwards
But unfortunately until we get info on the wife or clarification on the initiation and fetus relation we can't know for sure
I think we have some good questions for next QnA
amber harbor
What is the quickening?
noble vine
@slim hatch Maybe this was not known before? That the sculptor has such a big influence?
slim hatch
Nah we know fairly well that Sculptor is a damn powerful entity.
And it can twist and turn living beings
And we also know that the DS comes from the same realm as sculptor
But we can't say that DS and Sculptor are tied
AS there are more entities than just sculptor
amber harbor
So the initiation needs 2 people present
slim hatch
Not a fact
We know that initiation apparently is very simple
As a hunter managed to initiate his wife.
Obv. having gone through it he obviously knows the ritual
But what it entails we don't know
It might be even possible to be done by yourself if you know how and have what is needed
But again
Not enough info
amber harbor
Better wait for the next meathead part
slim hatch
I still haven't read all the entries yet
amber harbor
didn't expect it to be so good
slim hatch
So I'm reserved to what I know and what I can derive
Maybe I can give better answers after I've gone through it all
But i don't think we will get many answers only more clarity in some aspects
The rest has to be derived or will come with later lore entries
And books
sinful trout
From the way everything has been said and put i feel the initiation is the sharing of blood, with some sort of bloodpool that the aha would have ready, so that new hunters could get it straight from the source to prevent the dilution of a bloodline. This would help explain how someone initiated their wife because he would simply just have to share blood.
forest condor
if it is in the blood then it makes sense that male hunters woudn't pass it along to non-initated women
cause that's not how sex works, thanks American education system
sinful trout
Yeah, and that would ruin my pro choice superpowe joke
forest condor
.........
sinful trout
i have more questions than answers at the end of hellhound though
amber harbor
What questions @sinful trout ?
sinful trout
like wtf is bunny
amber harbor
Bunny is the dog of a hunter
slim hatch
I think it's just another
We really can't say who was the first
We can only probably guess who/what was the first recorded case
Because don't forget
Sculptor has been seen or class(ification) sculptor
has been seen before
Which means there probably is a pattern
But knowing who was first would probably require going back some few hundred years to the first incident involving sculptor
sinful trout
yeah because we dont have any recordings of people referring to hellhounds as an unknown entity
in example
we know this is the first event were seing meatheads
we're
we know jeremy byrns is likely the first case of an immolator
forest condor
Each sculpter probably manifests in different ways
sinful trout
but we dont know if thats the first immolator
forest condor
And we know the time between events is fairly long with many different types of entities
For all we know this could be the first sculpter since it was said that it's being called the sculpter, that wouldn't have been said if it had been seen before
forest condor
Yeah, poltergeist
sinful trout
that was 85
sinful trout
@slim hatch do you remember what the event back in 83 was?
i seem to have forgotten
forest condor
It was the poltergeist
forest condor
Ohhh nvm
forest condor
I'm dumb it was 85
sinful trout
poltergeist*
sinful trout
go commit die
forest condor
🙃
slim hatch
Oh you already got it covered
As you know i recall a year which by subtraction or by default ended in 666
Which i suspect was 1666
Which also historically falls to Fire of London
sinful trout
is this from the elusive newsletter?
slim hatch
But again it seems to be some weird shit in my head as i always fail to find the reference to it
It might be i'm not sure
forest condor
We need to fund that newsletter
slim hatch
I just have that date in my head and i don't remember was it a talk with Fasih some-where or
forest condor
Find*
forest condor
elite hacker mode activated
slim hatch
Well might not be a moment might take a few days but I'll get back to you with that one.
You see i need to drive to Germany
Break into CryTEK
Rummage through all their sourcecontrol 😄
forest condor
supreme hackermode activated
sinful trout
im looking through all mentions of incident
dor
some
reason
i cant
select
next page
in SEARCH
sinful trout
done it like 6 times
you said it was pre fasih
or pro fasih
first mention of the england event
was by you
you sure youre not just going crazy?
i wonder if theres a way to see the monstrorvum in the gamefiles unblurred
slim hatch
- I suspect i might be going crazy i really do
- I looked in the gamefiles and no... without unpacking them not an option. There is presently no unpacker for latest CryENGINE
slim hatch
Technically could try looking into them through IDA but not sure if the tool is suitable for that.
sinful trout
well
wed be getting info earlier than we were supposed to
so....
by definition
were cheating
sinful trout
Honestly our focus right now should be meathead as it seems to give us answers on the initiation
young wharf
Poor Harpo and Beefrat 😦
forest condor
? @young wharf
young wharf
the two hunters killed after eating rotten meat
sinful trout
Are you reffering to the devil entries?
languid bough
That's all we have. Lore is present all around the game in different form and the google doc is here to group up all of this.
sinful trout
The hunt lore doc is a hub for almost all lore we have. If youve read through all the posters, questions and monstorvum theres always the hunt fandom wiki, which has a bunch of stuff, as well as the main hunt lore page, as theres a lot of insightful documents.
If you need links just let me know :)
tight coral
Is the sound broken for you guys? After the update
languid bough
@tight coral wrong channel. You can try in #hunt-general
forest condor
@languid bough but...wah.....umm....is there no more use for a notbot 😰
languid bough
There are always a use for a notbot. You're here to give hugs. Big hug to Arpy
forest condor
hugs
sinful trout
You get a gold star! 🌟... For something
young wharf
I'd love some links to resources where I can learn more
Also, what are we still trying to figure out?
forest condor
Working on piecing together all the lore that we've uncovered in the monstorum
Rn var's lore doc is fairly inclusive of the majority of what we're searching for
And once the monstorum is finished we're gonna move on to irregular ace's video
@young wharf
sinful trout
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Rb5ZTHorhSR4ReVsEGZKEQ4njrCo4JO18p7CcOzTe0/edit?usp=sharing dont forget to read char lost
@young wharf
sinful trout
The 100 people dead one?
young wharf
I feel as the people in new york are profiting heavily
The man who made the antidote lived there, a lot of the guns are produced there
young wharf
Yeah, he was living in New York when the poster was manufactured
sinful trout
Where did you read that
young wharf
Do we know much about new york?
young wharf
There was the New York Graffiti incident in the Incident book
sinful trout
Correct
sinful trout
Shoot
sinful trout
Oh thats just voynich lettering
sinful trout
@sick vault @forest condor do either of you still havd the alphabet?
young wharf
sick vault
let me at least search for it ^^
young wharf
So what does it read?
young wharf
O A
sick vault
I tried a few versions, nothing that makes sense
young wharf
OAH
forest condor
Oah
young wharf
I see oah
sinful trout
Honestly right now its just a dead end
Hell it could be a name
Weve seen beefrat
So why not oah
Perhaps the first letter is hidden and its an n
young wharf
Can I get the source on beefrat?
forest condor
H is a u with a flurish
There's a missing curve to complete the letter
And h doesn't have that curve
sinful trout
"Poor Harpo and Beefrat" - lukee
forest condor
Or I could be wrong as hell
young wharf
I was confused as to why you said we've seen beefrat
Is it because its a weird name?
sinful trout
Weve seen beefrat as a name
sick vault
dont forget to search for words in haitian creole, most of the early voynich stuff isnt english
young wharf
Oh wait, I thought this graffiti was in New York
seems from the way the article is structured it's in New Orleans
young wharf
woah
Can't find much meaning out of another
The double a guns slogan is don't miss another shot i suppose
forest condor
Yeet
young wharf
Did you guys know that "231 railroad ave, New york 14005" is a real place?
You can't go down the street on google maps however
young wharf
Maybe lol
Are we still trying to figure out about initiation?
And have we tried to make sense of the last line left by dr reed
in his descent into madness
"Sores belt my arms. The flesh crawls and bleeds. A moth flutters at my ear. I flee sa fi tyeh ytr ot ekta orot. Dsrow no het gepa a a"
forest condor
Last part is "words on the page a a"
We assume a a means aha
First part is " I feel as if they try to take root
young wharf
yeah
young wharf
oops lol
forest condor
?
steel stone
Wanna play Arpy?
forest condor
Not the place dude, this is for lore chats
half oriole
"Dsrow no het gepa a a"
could the last part mean "Words on the page aha"
young wharf
And I refuted aha saying that people wouldn't write like that, cause i'm an idiot
forest condor
Lol you're fine
young wharf
I thought it meant laughing lmao
young wharf
I'm working on something pretty neat for the lore folk
young wharf
I'll need Var'uun's permission
young wharf
Workin on it 😃
sterile rampart
Water Devil 6/6
i am f*** done meleeing this damn thing...
although still have to melee those, but thats not that bad
Meathead 5/6
sullen lily
Yea I got it now, dw
young wharf
Afternoon
bold tiger
Where is a compilaton of all the journal entries?
bold tiger
Yeah
sinful trout
So we dont have all
But we have most
Check out this page!
Just select monstorvum on the outline if your on pc
bold tiger
Ok thanks, last time I looked at one i think I had the wrong one since only the first 2 of stuff was generally unlocked
sinful trout
Ah. Yeah thats the old doc
forest condor
Yeet, I think I'm going to curate the standalone monstorum doc tonight
weak oasis
Guys, is there any summed up info about what is Louisiana Incident actually?
I mean what caused all of this
bold tiger
Demons