#lore-discussion

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sinful trout
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I already asked them @slim hatch

slim hatch
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Okay

sinful trout
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Now we wait

slim hatch
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Yep

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Because fuck that you can't just retcon shit on your whim

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I mean it's established lore

main quail
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I dont think they should answer you tbh, but make it correct in the lore

slim hatch
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And then you go fucking WoW and add lore that is completely opposite of what established lore is.

main quail
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But cant say because dont know how they repleid

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replied

slim hatch
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I mean sure there is a way to explain it

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1895 there was only 1 butcher and 1 spider

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Aka the hunts we play

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Are still a retelling of a story

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But there have been occurances of Butchers and Spiders down the line as well

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In which case it still makes it legit

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But....

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Blergh

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I'll just focus on first getting as much of the book as possible together

main quail
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Wait

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So there has been mentions of many bosses before this new info

slim hatch
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No

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There hasn't

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Until Book of monsters

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It was always

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  1. Butcher and 1. Spider
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Every hunt is retelling of the same story

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The unreliable narrator

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And the maps + QP is reuse of assets

main quail
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But the future guy says its hard to piece together the puzzles

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And since the whole game is about different takes on the story

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They think there were more spiders and butchers

slim hatch
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This day in 1895 series imo is nothing more than fluff very little useful information

main quail
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And the guy says he has trouble believing the findings

slim hatch
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But yeah on one account I'm happy that we finally got the book of monsters but the tone shift is notable and Var'uum also noticed it.

main quail
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Dont see what the problem here is

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tbh

slim hatch
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But w/e I'll work with what i've try to get some answers, we will compile them output them to community after we have merged PDF book

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And fuck if i care what happens after doubt any more juicy lore will come in afterwards

main quail
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hmm

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Are you asking the lore guys questions?

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Doesnt really fit the type of lore this game has, since you find out the lore from subjective pieces

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So kinda weird in my opinion

slim hatch
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Did you read the pinned posts?

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Did you?

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Did you?

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We collect information. We filter out what seems to be most plausible or what is factual based on intersecting references and accounts. If 5 different unrelated people say the Car is Black it's Probably black even if one guy claims it's Dark Blue.

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Makes sense?

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So we derive plausible explanations for one on another element

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And then we ask questions to confirm or debunk them

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Which Lore writers until now were answering.

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And sometimes with that we also get a bit of spoilers of unrevealed content

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That we look further into

main quail
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Sure

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Lore is interesting, but would be more interesting if there was more inside the game and not in a Docs

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But I get what you mean

sinful trout
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i love how my name has been reduced to the sound a car makes

slim hatch
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Well I'd call you Var if anything

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But that's a Variable

sinful trout
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Rehab08/08/2018
@sinful trout Theory Hermit The Hunt story in general... No text you see is written from an objective point of view. Each piece of text is written by a certain character. Each probably from a different background, using their own terminology – for lack of a better term they use certain words. Like for example – Arab says djinn / shape / sculptor.

Furthermore, this makes some text unreliable. People can remember things wrong. While other can lie.
In fact, each session of Hunt gameplay is conceptual. There is only one spider, only one butcher. They were killed only once. But each Hunt match is somebody telling that story differently.

As to what really happened in Louisiana in 1895, that is the big puzzle.

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@main quail

main quail
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Ok

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But the words from the future guy aren't so much against this

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He had to piece the puzzle

minor peak
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Read Dennis' response on bomb lance's harpoon inside Hunter.

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Idk if its just joke or lore.

main quail
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Could be lore

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Something to do with the soul 😄 thats why you cant revive more than x amount

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Depending on health

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could be cool

sterile sonnet
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deffinatly intentianal lore

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no reson to write such a specific explanation if it wasnt legit

minor peak
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And thats why a headshot is not permanent death.

forest condor
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I think it's a joke, cause hunters get incapacitated when shot, but I guess gameplay mechanic is fair here

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Also, I'm tripping a bit cause one of my aunt's is named D'aunoy

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(pronounced dun wah)

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Or D unwah

sinful trout
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I think its a joke @minor peak mainly because if it could reverse all these things and wasnt just gameplay elements then hayward could have revived sinan

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Updated doc

slim hatch
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@minor peak I'm 99.9% Sure it's a joke

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Revival is a game-mechanic as far as we can explain it

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No way

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Can someone survive being blown to pieces via Dynamite

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Getting their torso opened up with a huge ass burning cleaver

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Being eaten alive by sea butt-worms

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And getting a Nitro-Express look through hole in their chest

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Or shotgun blast to the face

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Tip there would be no head left

forest condor
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Concensus, lore hunters can revive incapcated hunters. Gameplay, all types of damage deal incapacitating damage to hunters even ones that literally fucking destroy half of a meathead

tall lava
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@slim hatch Not really familiar with the lore but after reading the armored #3 I'm confused, I thought the monsters were made by something you guys call the sculptor but in the text it's some random guys who have discovered a way of turning human bodies into stone...? So it's also weird experiments that are turning people into monsters?

urban burrow
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@sinful trout So writers never appeared to answer.... Is there someone we can @ that does pay attention to this and can maybe ask them? Maybe Maquannas or a mod?

slim hatch
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@urban burrow Answer is NO

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WE had one

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He is no longer among us

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@tall lava Unreliable narrator and I'll be honest I haven't read most of them yet I just gather them

urban burrow
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But var tagged two guys that were writers right? Or do you mean it changed because the writers changed?

tall lava
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If that's the case then could it also be possible for the sculptor to be false...? Might be dumb questions but I'm just out of the loop 😅

slim hatch
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Highly doubt that sculptor is false

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And frankly put sculptor is just one of many names it carries we just agreed to refer to it as such

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@urban burrow There are different people with different level of willingness to communicate and different rank within the company.

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All that

forest condor
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@urban burrow they're kinda a go between

slim hatch
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Affects on how open or closed they are

urban burrow
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i got ya

urban burrow
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But back to my point if they are a go between is there not some way for us to ask them that question because obviously discord notifications didn't work

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I think the people who care about this and have dedicated so much time to it deserve some form of answer maybe that's just me tho

forest condor
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#bringbackfaish

earnest jungle
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I actually have an idea. What if the American Hunters Association has agents working in various newspapers so as to cover up demonic incursions and to bury stories by witnesses?

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Alternatively they could be working to locate possible demonic incursions

urban burrow
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I think thats very valid...I think the AHA and other orgs do alot to conceal these things...like a government coverup so to speak

earnest jungle
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It’s also possible that those Doctors are unscrupulous snake oil salesmen taking credit for this young man turning into an armored.

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I mean government regulation over medicine won’t be a thing for about 20 years.

urban burrow
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Yeah very clue, and we already know that alot of info from these people is unreliable

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true*

forest condor
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maybe there's a physical attribute to these transformations and the runoff water activated some of the effects

amber harbor
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Regarding the number of bosses and bounties, having more bosses doesn't automatically destroy the idea of bounties being valuable

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besides being hard to get, we don't know how many bosses there are, but I assume they are pretty rare

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Plus with no previous bounties there wouldn't be a hunt for them and their propreties wouldn't be known

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and if there were previous cases there will most likely be more in the future

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Also on the #3 Armored thing, the thing that stands out to me is why there would be the middle article about the guy who burned alive

forest condor
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until we know more we need to go off the idea that there can't be more than one at a time

sinful trout
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its probably something to do with how the chitin on armoreds is heavily flammable imo

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@forest condor im just worried that if we continue down that road theyll tell us that no there is more than one and end up destroying our theories

forest condor
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Theories based on old FACTS. Fuck this new retcon

sinful trout
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fair

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if only we COULD GET AN ANSWER

urban burrow
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Yeah i do not mind theories being destroyed thats the nature of the beast...Though being told something is true by a writer then having it end up being not true just kinda sucks

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But if its due to writer change and such cool no biggie just let us know

main quail
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So there are two types of portals?

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Unstable and stable ones right?

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If the clues are one what is the other?

slim hatch
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Unstable one is probably the rift between two worlds where the entities come from

main quail
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Ok

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The stable portal can be created by the Hunters then

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Just watched some early video of devs talking about Hunt

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Where they say Hunters open a portal to banish the boss

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So they have more powers than just the dark sight

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Or seems like it

slim hatch
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No you can't close stable portals

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Stated explicitly

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Yes portal / rift is opened during banishing process by the looks of it

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But it's also slammed shut right after the boss is banished

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So it's an unstable one

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Because stable ones can't be closed

main quail
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But there are two types of portals

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Stable and unstable

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The clue being the unstable

slim hatch
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One of many

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Clue is just one of many

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2 Types doesn't mean there are only 1 kind of each type

main quail
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True

slim hatch
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There are 2 Types of Animals Carnivore and Herbivore doesn't make it only cat and a cow (And yes we all know there are also Omnivores but for sake of example lets forget about them)

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Wellspring is also unstable type

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It's even described as volatile

main quail
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Yeah

forest condor
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Why haven't we discussed how when we banish a boss anportal opens up and they fall through

sinful trout
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Yes clues are unstable portals

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@slim hatch where did you see it confirmed about it being an unstable portal?

forest condor
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Also, hellhound 3 is just one of the posters around the levels

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+a little bit

sinful trout
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  • a lot
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It gives us proof that hes not an aha hunter as he says "sometimes the trophy is just a bag of Bones"
It also adds some dark foresight to the "friends betray each other eventually"

forest condor
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Sounds like he's reminiscing

main quail
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And what could a stable portal be

wooden nacelle
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guys pleas correct the section of the book of mosters

forest condor
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In game?

wooden nacelle
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In latin u can call it 'liber de mostribus' or simply the just 'de mostribus' NEVER use genitive after de only the ablative form is possible

forest condor
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Dude

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We can't do that

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We're not devs

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Also Bobby Boulder showed Google's take on it

wooden nacelle
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sry wrong goup

forest condor
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No, there's no group here that can do it unless you @ the devs

wooden nacelle
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in latin is wong thust me

forest condor
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And even then, it's a project that's taken a very long time, they did it right

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Book about monsters

wooden nacelle
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not in right ancient latin man

main quail
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Is it wrong in latin

forest condor
main quail
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grammatically wrong?

wooden nacelle
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yes

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+after 'de' only ablative form

main quail
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So what would the librum de mostrorum mean

wooden nacelle
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like 'ibus'

main quail
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in english

forest condor
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If it doesn't mean a book about monsters what would it mean

wooden nacelle
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means the same but it's wrong in latin grammar

main quail
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Ok

forest condor
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Wait, so it is fine

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And means the same thing

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But the Grammer is slightly dofferent

main quail
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Its not grammatically correct but means the same thing

wooden nacelle
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yes

forest condor
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Grammer changes

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Languages evolve

wooden nacelle
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not the ancient latin grammar

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hihih

forest condor
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And some historians could just use different grammer

urban burrow
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How do you know the author knows proper latin grammar? He could have just thought it was a good name for hte book and boom there ya go

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as in the author in the story not crytek writers

main quail
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Dont think its intentional HUL

urban burrow
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It may not be

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But it could also be. unreliable narrator and all that jazz ya know

forest condor
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Honestly, it is the 70's iirc, the historian was probably uneducated in "proper" latin

urban burrow
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yeah my thought

slim hatch
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Next one is 500 Grunts and I've my doubts I'll manage to nail that one unless I do full server wipes early on

forest condor
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you've done a great job so far

earnest jungle
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Alright I concede these things aren't zombies.

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Are you happy now Arpy you win these things aren't zombies and I won't call them zombies any more

forest condor
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i'm not happy because i'm right

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i'm happy becasue now we can keep getting that knowledge

earnest jungle
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Given this new lore I think it's possible that I could have gotten my theory about the Gros Bon Ange and the Ti Bon Ange backwards. The previous theory was based on the Journals of Dr Reed, but with the new lore I wonder: What if it's not something supplanting the Ti Bon Ange but something supplanting the Gros Bon Ange and taking control of the body? This could potentially explain why the bodies are rotting but aren't dead. What ever has supplanted the Gros Bon Ange isn't compatible and as a side effect the body begins to decay and decompose.

forest condor
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possably

earnest jungle
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Frankly this reeks of ret con.

forest condor
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a bit

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well

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not imo

earnest jungle
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But this should be expected the game is still being developed and I would rather they change around the lore before the game is officially released than after

forest condor
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the butcher's thing is retcon

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multiple bosses

earnest jungle
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Yeah that's definitely a ret con. Although truth be told I actually like the change from "two hunts that are just being retold over and over again" to "multiple hunts for multiple bosses"

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of course it's entirely possible it's the same butcher and he just keeps escaping from where ever he's been banished

forest condor
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i think there's one butcher and a new body is made each time he dies

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so still one butcher

slim hatch
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Also fun fact Dr.Winkel who is researching grunts is with Father Nico from the badge wallpaper texts

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When I’m done grinding lore will update character sheets

forest condor
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isn't it the trading cards?

slim hatch
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And based on last text unlocked he suffered same fate as Dr.Reed

forest condor
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seems to have

slim hatch
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Trade cards / badges same thing what we do know he is being affected by sculptor’s influence just like reed

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And based on cards he won’t make it either

forest condor
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"there's no trace"

slim hatch
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Yep

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But Reed wasn’t found either

forest condor
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kinda makes the boss theory a bit sour

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but i'll allow it

slim hatch
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Only his journal

forest condor
slim hatch
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What boss theory?

forest condor
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my theory that one of them was the boss

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also that's an image from the end of the trials of DR reed

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a not the boss

slim hatch
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Yes I know

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And we know reed isn’t spider either as initially assumed long ago debunked twice

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Via QnA and Dennis’es slip of tongue during character stream

earnest jungle
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Wait I just had a thought. What if the sculptor is wearing down the barriers between our reality and what every reality these things come from. Or worse yet is holding the door open for them. Allowing them to more easily enter or re-enter our reality?

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What if it's not these monsters he's sculpting but reality itself?

slim hatch
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Sculptor seems to be entity one of many

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Case of Poltergeist, Djinn , 1666, 1885

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And obv. The sundering

earnest jungle
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My thought was more that the sculptors are the ones creating the rifts in reality... although the more I say this the more it sounds like a "no duh" theory

slim hatch
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Yeah doubt it as well

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If sculptor could create a rift and afflict bayou then earth would be done for

earnest jungle
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I'm not saying they can create stable rifts, but unstable rifts

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If they could create stable rifts between our world and their world yeah we would be fucked

slim hatch
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That I think we don’t know aka 0 basis as such that’s my answer “We don’t know the magnitude of sculptor’s power”

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We don’t even know its position in terms of hierarchy among its kind

earnest jungle
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Maybe the Book of Monsters can help with that

slim hatch
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Well we do know there are no ranks aka chaos in which case strong dominate the weak

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As per law of nature

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But anyway i need to sleep good night

sinful trout
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my god @slim hatch CAN I GET A BREAK

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i believe that the ti bon ange is being suppressed but not essentially overwritten. just that its supressed and they have to bear witness to what the gros bon ange is doing

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doc updated

signal heart
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GREETINGS

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I have some news

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Tomorrow! 4pm CEST ! @rotund ferry and I will be stopping in here to answer some lore questions

sterile sonnet
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oooooh boy , awsome

signal heart
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Wanted to give some advance warning so you'd know when exactly we'd be around

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Mostly intended to focus on Book of Monsters questions

slim hatch
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Hm?

sterile sonnet
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oh shit sry that was an accsedent

slim hatch
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4PM EST is 22:00 my time... At that time I'm quite high on melatonin already...

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Also AMA when we haven't even had all the time to read through lore

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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

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I mean the grind wall is huge behind them

signal heart
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Well bring what questions you want

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We'll answer as much as we can

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Ah jesus, also @rotund ferry has just pointed out to me I typoed on the time zone

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CENTRAL EUROPEAN TIME, 4 pm

slim hatch
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Owwww

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Okay

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That's more reasonable

signal heart
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Sorry bout that

slim hatch
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Happens

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I guess time for a new Doc....

languid bough
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Time to gather questions so we avoid duplicate

rotund ferry
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is here the party?

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Sorry that you haven't had a chance to read through everything yet, but we're super excited to be talking again now that Book Of Monsters is out, and saw that there were already some questions. Of course, this isn't the only AMA we'll do, and hopefully we'll be able to stop by more often

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still also need to read the book of monster

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too busy with new weapons and thingy

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XD

slim hatch
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I've been grinding unlocks haven't read a single page aside from some skimming

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Anyway I'll prepare the doc so we can gather questions like all previous QnA's

minor peak
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AMA session? rooAww

slim hatch
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bH3GBV0VYD7dOfp_PFh2xX13ENMCyEfYesZ4Gcm-Mtk/edit?usp=sharing Here is the document lets start smashing in all questions @sacred sable Could you do us a favour and pin it in both #lore-discussion and #lore-discussion-hardcore

sacred sable
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Yes

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@slim hatch done

slim hatch
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❤ 😗

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As Always i really do suggest we discuss questions listed, their basis etc. as to gain maximum gain out of it but that's just a suggestion.

signal heart
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Well, looking forward to hearing them all. Do remember, we are still prohibited from answering questions that will be answered in upcoming lore releases, but we'll answer as much as we can--and with the book of monsters out there should be a lot more we will be able to discuss

minor peak
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Ok! rooHappy

signal heart
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See you'll then

slim hatch
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We got a short deadline tho....

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I guess we just smack in anything that isn't President's Daughter and we are good

gusty herald
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@slim hatch It's CEST not EST

slim hatch
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Yeah already informed by Haw @gusty herald That gives us 24h to prep questions

gusty herald
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oh sorry I missed that, just read that you wrote 22 EST 😄

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cool! 😃

sinful trout
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First main question is what the hell happened from 1 boss to multiple

nimble cairn
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what's lore

zealous shoal
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I went into lore-discussion-hardocre for the first time.. It's way too much out there to get trugh it for this QnA. I hope we will get more compressed lore in the future.

sinful trout
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Theres sine pinned docs @zealous shoal @nimble cairn

nimble cairn
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ohh i see it now thanks @sinful trout

sinful trout
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Gotcha!

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But be careful

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Close your eyes

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Bc daddys fucking angry rn

nimble cairn
sinful trout
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Not at you, children.

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Rejoice

nimble cairn
forest condor
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What's the time for the ama in freedom please

sinful trout
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In lameo time? Idk

forest condor
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YOU SHARE A TIMEZONE

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Freedom is the best time zone

sinful trout
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The eh zone is 5 hours before

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So its 5:38 right now for them pm

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Its 12:39 pm for me now

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So it happens at 11 for me tomorrow

forest condor
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11 am?

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Fuck, I'm in school

sinful trout
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Time to post yer questions

wispy dome
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Hol up

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Is it today or tommorow

sinful trout
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Tomorrow!

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Time to brush up on your lore, fella @wispy dome

wispy dome
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Im still wondering if the Sculptor and AHA are correlated

sinful trout
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No. The sculptor is the entity the aha is fighting

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Its what created the event

wispy dome
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Sure

sinful trout
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Pushed old questions into the new doc however i doubt theyll get answered

main quail
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We NEED to know which is true and why someone lied to us

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hahaha xD

sinful trout
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YEP

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Like i said

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CLOSE YOUR EYES KIDS

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DADDYS OUT FOR BLOOD

main quail
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Propably changed it since retelling the same event doesnt work with adding the Assassin and new map

sinful trout
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It still would because we were told that many entities were at play in the louisianna event and thst this hunt was significantly differe t than all the rest

main quail
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BUt I think the change is better, kinda lowering the impact of a single spider/butcher

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Evil is at play here

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Lets send 10 farmboys with Winnies

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to kill each other and kill the big boss

earnest jungle
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Question two seems a bit to hostile. I sounds accusatory as if we're saying they lied to us. Maybe it's just me but I think we should reword it a little so it sounds less accusatory.

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I say this because you catch more flies with honey than vinegar and if we want to get answers and we want to have them respond more it's best not to sound hostile or accusatory.

slim hatch
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I've issues with Question 8

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Feels as if it came from someone who hasn't read a single of the previous QnA's

forest condor
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@sinful trout could you add something about weather or not this is the first qp? I'm on mobile rn

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@slim hatch I think it's a question from another QnA

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And it could have merit, we know that the sculpter's power can manifest in physical sources, (the water that petrified the guy in the armored texts)

sinful trout
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@slim hatch question 8 was from old qna

slim hatch
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Valid point

forest condor
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Quick aside, glad we're working together again, this is really working out

sinful trout
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@slim hatch even though its obvious its a curse we should continue to entertain thoughts that others have.

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I feel like we had lore on william salters before the new monstorvum came out. Though i may just be crazy.

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Anyone else feel the same?

noble vine
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short question: when there are multiple butchers and spiders, does it dump the theory that every match is the same story retold over and over?

main quail
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DOesnt

noble vine
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so it could also be at the same time just different locations? (lawson delta)

main quail
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sure

noble vine
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arrrr i HATE this part of the lore. I dont like the fact that its probably the same story told over and over again

main quail
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Me neither

forest condor
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It was supposed to be the same story told over and over

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That's what they told us

main quail
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But dont know the full lore so cant comment

noble vine
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me neither. But i am digging in a bit

main quail
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Just like the idea that there is more at play

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more enemies etc

noble vine
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@forest condor is it clear that the lore was changed? Because that would give me hope that it might get changed on this point

forest condor
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It's clear that it is one story told over and over agin, but apparently there are more butchers

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So it's either this is just one butcher/spider/assassin we're facing and there are others, there is only one of each but when banished it comes back, or there are many of each boss

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It's clear that it is one story told over and over agin

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They said it's the same story

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And now it's not

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But they should clear it up tomorrow

noble vine
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k thanks

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another thought: Is it figured out if the portals have a time travel function? That would explain the bloodline and the XP, although it would mean that they travel to the exact same event and redo it over and over again.

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@forest condor it would still be the same story, but it would include the progressing mechanics. Is this a thing? or did i miss something?

main quail
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New lore:

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new boss

noble vine
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what is this beautyful creature?

dapper pasture
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the spinman

main quail
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Some kind of grunt

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afflicted

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but not dead

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natural spine

dapper pasture
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I want on the live server

main quail
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Already is

dapper pasture
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looks awesome

earnest jungle
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Frankly I would prefer tif they ditched the “one hunt just being retold over and over again” lore.

forest condor
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i like it

earnest jungle
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I feel that if it’s possible for the bounty targets can come back from hell it makes them seem like a much bigger threat. They possibility that they could come back makes them feel like a much bigger threat than once being banished they’re gone for good never to be seen again.

forest condor
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it actually makes discussion on the legitamacy of each lore text feasable

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instead of taking everything at face value

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as well as making each boss unique and showing that they have a greater impact

earnest jungle
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If there was a large cast of Boss Monsters I could see that. But if your fighting they same two bosses over and over again they’re going to loose that feeling of uniqueness really fast

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I also feel as if it robs the individual Hunts of a sense of meaning. Because if there is only one hunt for each boss than only one hunt is he actual hunt and the rest is made up stories.

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But this is just my personal feelings on the matter

forest condor
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? you're only fighting each boss once if that

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lore wise

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the idea is each hunt is a story told about how your hunter went through the hunt

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did he die

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did he kill someone

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and a historian is piecing through documents trying to figure out how it went down

earnest jungle
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Again this is just my personal opinion. And frankly I don’t think the presences of multiple hunts changes much. The only thing that’s different in my opinion is the historian is looking at multiple hunts instead of just one.

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But again this is just my personal opinion and to each their own.

forest condor
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but how could the boss die in multiple hunts if there's only one boss

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and if there's multiple bosses why fight over one of them

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why not each kill their own

earnest jungle
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A) These things are being banished back to “Hell” if they got into our world once it stands to reason they could do it twice

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B) Greed simple human greed. It doesn’t matter if there are multiple bounties only one team/hunter can collect the bounty. Simple human greed will facilitate the rest.

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It’s why in game players will kill other players to get the other bounty. If one person gets the bounty everyone else can just extract and try to get it next round. But they don’t.

forest condor
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yeah, because there's only one

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if there's several why shoudnt they just leave

earnest jungle
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No there isn’t. If you don’t grab the bounty you can extract and try again in the next round.

forest condor
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oh you mean gameplay wise

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yeah, again, it's a story told millions of different ways

earnest jungle
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Yes the gameplay is proof that people will needlessly fight over bounties.

forest condor
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yeah, but ONLY if there are multiple avaliable

earnest jungle
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But for US the players there ARE multiple hunts available. If you loose a hunt you don’t stop playing forever you start another hunt. There is no shortage of opportunities to hunt bounties but yet we still fight to the death over one bounty

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We the players are proof that even when there are an infinite number of opportunities to hunt and collect a bounty people will still fight to the death over one individual bounty

main quail
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Not really

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Real life vs game

sinful trout
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^^^^

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Think of it this way @earnest jungle

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You ever hear a bedtime story

earnest jungle
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Fair enough there is a reason why Crazy is in my name

sinful trout
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About a legendary hero

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Who did awesone things by himself?

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That legend could have been twisted a million times by different people

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First its his assistant

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Next hes alon

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Alone

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Then he has a part of people

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The they slay a dragon

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Then he slays a dragon

earnest jungle
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Most of my childhood bead time stories were about Moby Dick. I was a very strange child.

sinful trout
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Things get warped and what people take with them is what they pass on

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So if the same story was told to a hundred different people

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Chances are only 50% can retell the same story identically the same

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So then you have not 1 story but 50

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Multiply that by a few hundred years or so

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You have what the hunt verse calls "the unreliable narrator"

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Each hubt is a different persons story

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A different fresh perspective

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Thats why we love the idea so much

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Becausw one story has just spider

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Next has butcher

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Next has both

earnest jungle
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But wait doesn’t the AHA go to extreme lengths to cover up demonic incursions and their hunts. Including having witnesses institutionalized or even assassinated?

sinful trout
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Next has neither. Each story would be completely unique

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Hunters classify as witnesses

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And even hunters have children they tell stories to

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Its also stated in the lore that they go tobars and boast their stories and drink expensive liquor

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Everyone thinks their crazy

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But man was that a goodstory

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Ill tell some friends

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This is why the unfeliable narrator was so good. It had depth behind it

earnest jungle
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Yeah but at most there would be only 12 stories and that’s assuming everyone on the successful hunt survived. And wouldn’t the AHA have written down these accounts?

sinful trout
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MEAT behind it

forest condor
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we had to read into each document and cross reference

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and actually feel like we were digging something up

sinful trout
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@earnest jungle aha wouldve. But this isnt about the ahs telling the stories

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Its about modern day retelling of the stories

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So many to go around

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So thats why everyone loves this theory. Because it gives hunt a whole new meaning when you see it. But now it seems to have switched directions

forest condor
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a less tridtional storytelling

earnest jungle
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But again the AHA seems dedicated to making sure these stories wouldn’t go around? Given they have strict rules about secrecy

sinful trout
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Its in the lore thst hunters tell stories mate

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Its nothing aha can do

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Unless they start wiping towns to keep it a secret

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But then you have to cover that up

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Plus no one is believing these anyway

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So why bother

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After all

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Theyre just bedtime stories

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mic drop

earnest jungle
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The AHA can kill them. In fact the leader said that if he outed them he would be killed.

sinful trout
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He did

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But thats ousting

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Saying "i have proof of a secret orginization"

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Not "i killed a bug fucking spider with an automatic russian sniper"

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Which is more likely to expose stuff

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Which is believe able

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Alrighty @earnest jungle i gotta go right whick for a couple hours

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Any more questions feel free to ask. Id love to sit down and have a long conversation about this. Its quite enjoyable

earnest jungle
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Yeah but if a guy goes around telling stories about how he killed a giant fucking spider with an automatic rifle that’s going to draw people’s attention even if they do think it’s bullshit. And people have believed far stranger with far less proof.

sinful trout
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Enh

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Dm, ill message later

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;)

earnest jungle
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I mean look at InfoWars if you want proof of how easy it can be to convince people to believe the craziest and outlandish of thing with virtually no proof! And it certainly drawn attention to Alex Jones and the ludicrous things he says.

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It doesn’t matter if people doubt the stories it’s still going to draw attention to these stories. Attention I doubt the AHA would want.

sinful trout
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It would be more trouble for them to silence these people whove heard outlandish stories. I doubt people from way back then would believe such "ghost stories"

urban burrow
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Most people who watch info wars do it for comedy.....Well everyone i know lol its fun to watch Alex Jones go on his tirades

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I do think there was covering up happening

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In the huntverse

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Also, wouldnt be surprised if the AHA had political power behind the scenes of many governments

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Hunters tell stories...but to other hunters right? I do not think hunters were sharing this info willy nillie

earnest jungle
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Fair enough but I’m still skeptical that the AHA would be okay with hunters running their mouths about the demonic invasions given all the work they put into covering up those invasions

urban burrow
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I think they would not be ok it either...kinda a looked down upon things...But they could dismiss stories...now hard proof? Ya they may kill someone for trying to expose it

wispy dome
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Guys, is it just me or does it look like the Assassin is grieving when he dies. Like he's saying sorry i failed, or something

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Has this been looked into

urban burrow
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I havent noticed...but if it is its sorry for not completing his job of killing everyone haha

wispy dome
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Well yea

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But who is it grieving to

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The Sculptor?

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And also

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His name

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The Assassin

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Doesnt quite match up with Spider and Butcher

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An assassin is sent to kill a specific target

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So, maybe the sculptor sent him to kill something

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?

urban burrow
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I think the assassin is a name we gave him...much like the others

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We as in hunters

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and people in the huntverse

wispy dome
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That doesnt add up

urban burrow
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Why not?

earnest jungle
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Maybe it’s a reluctant killer sort of thing? The Assassin just wants to be left alone but it’s a monster now and is forced to kill/the AHA is hunting it down?

urban burrow
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We named all the other beasts...meethead, hive etc

wispy dome
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Because in the Huntverse there arent multiple Butchers, Spiders, etc

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There is one of each

urban burrow
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Well devs just refuted that the other day

wispy dome
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Ah ok

urban burrow
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If you scroll up you see us asking if they can clarify on that

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We never got a response

wispy dome
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Well

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That is inconclusive

urban burrow
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Yeah, was a mild uproar about it because at one time your right that is what we were told

earnest jungle
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We should probably ask the devs again if their old stance on “one story being retold” is still their stance or if they’ve changed that as well in the Q&A

urban burrow
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but the book of monsters refuted that

wispy dome
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Speaking of it

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Can someone send me screencaps of all the pages

urban burrow
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Ya would be a good thing to add to the QnA

wispy dome
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I wanna read em

urban burrow
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If you look in hardcore they are all there

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its the last things posted

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Lore discussion hardcore that is

wispy dome
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Anything more...particular

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A hidden message

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?

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Or is this just the hunters learning

urban burrow
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Im a bit confused on your question...

wispy dome
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Should we be looking for something more than surface level on these books

urban burrow
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OH, well its a compilation of all the information on these monsters that is known to Harold Black (I believe thats the ingame author of the book) So there is loads of lore to unpack there...But in this book. the bosses are spoken in a pleural sense. The spiders, The butchers

wispy dome
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Well

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Grunt #2 is werid

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Weird

urban burrow
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I actually have ran into a few things i find very odd and almost contradictory to what we have been told

wispy dome
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Kinda like he dies

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Like?

urban burrow
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The boss parts, that part you speak of....There are a few others id have to go thru to give good examples though...All in all there is so much to unpack its kinda tough....Varuun has put together a very good document breaking it all down for an easier way to read it all;

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I would recommend using this instead of going thru one by one in hardcore...its alot easier to read

wispy dome
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Thanks :D

urban burrow
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I think thats the wrong one actually give me a second

wispy dome
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Yea

urban burrow
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We should all be thanking the people who put all this hard work in from Hardcore.... @sinful trout @forest condor @slim hatch And anyone else who has put in loads of time...We appreciate it

wispy dome
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How does one get in hardcore

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How much free time do i have to have

urban burrow
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ATM it is just being used as kind of a INFO dump so the community has kinda asked people to frefrain from posting there...but for future if you want access you have to contact Maquannas

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There are no hard and fast rules for hardcore, just that your respectful and know the difference between the two

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People are trying pretty hard to keep it clutter free atm So as long as its not being abused i think you can have access

burnt storm
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Yeah you can just ask Maq and as long as stuff you post there is on topic and not memes, you should be fine 🙃

urban burrow
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^ agreed

forest condor
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basically it's a place for stuff to stay up without being buried

wispy dome
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The
Assassin, so aptly named, destroyed the man I was.

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Hmmm

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Maybe the name has a deeper meaning after all

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Guess well find out tommorow

forest condor
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it's supposed to instill fear in you

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so i guess an assassin of your innre confidence

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and self essteem

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lol

sinful trout
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It was probably named "assasin" by hunters because of its use of illusions and preference to strike from the shadows

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@wispy dome but yes. Hardcore is essentially dead.

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@urban burrow im not in hardcore anymore. Remember? I left

urban burrow
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Ya Var, but you put in alot of work thought you should be included in the comment

sinful trout
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enh

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i dont like recognition

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thanks tho

urban burrow
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I know that

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😄

sinful trout
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appreciate the thought ❤

urban burrow
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Sometimes people deserve things they do not like haha NP

forest condor
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speaking of not liking stuff

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you should come back to hardcore now that it's opened up

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using it as a place to keep reference material so it doesn't get buried seems to be a good use

urban burrow
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and do not forget to join us in suggestions discussions where we are constantly reminding the devs to revert the Anti clue sound....

forest condor
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@urban burrow I did the impossable

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check the LFG chat for NA

urban burrow
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We shall have victory ARPY!

forest condor
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lol, back to lore

sinful trout
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Im not goingback to hardcore. It strayed from what it was supposed to be

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And its still dead

forest condor
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okay

minor peak
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It's dead because nobody serious is talking there.

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Besides, it's good it exists because you find informations easier that way. ie. Book of monsters pages.

urban burrow
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I do enjoy that its become sort of a LORE dump makes it real easy to find a link or a piece of lore you are looking for

thorny sundial
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What is lore about? Dont know this word.

minor peak
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@thorny sundial Let's say...

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Story.

forest condor
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It's an underlying story for a game or movie

minor peak
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Hunt doesnt got story mode and will most likely not have one at all but this is covered up by lore-writers who write the story for the game and its events.

forest condor
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Sometimes learned through gameplay and sometimes through outside books

minor peak
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1 hour and 20 mins, AMA right?

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Kind of weird they gonna do it here instead on Reddit.

forest condor
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This is a really thriving lore community, and it's easy to get answers here

minor peak
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Eh, sure.

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I mean, reddit is more prominent.

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Easier to track answers.

forest condor
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Yeah, especially with the doc

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Oh wait

minor peak
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On reddit, if a writer answered a question, they are marked in red.

forest condor
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I misread

minor peak
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But here, you have to scroll and scroll. :c

forest condor
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You can search for the name

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Or you can check the doc

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(it's actually a bit easier here cause you can search nam s

thorny sundial
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Ah ok i understand now. No story needed at all 😄

minor peak
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Game does need story lol and the writers are slowly explaining as the story through various ways.

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Book of monsters, etc.

forest condor
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And gameplay

forest condor
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@rotund ferryno story mode

tacit iron
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Here is the stort

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story*

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All this? Its symbolism

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We are playing Alex Jones. The Zomibes, hives and so on are the ennemys of Infowar

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And the other players are the mainstream meida

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media*

gusty herald
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Are you guys ready? 😃

slim hatch
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The questions are in the doc and i think there will be plenty of people asking questions so I'm not bothered.... I still need to read the new lore.

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So

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I guess have fun peepsies

forest condor
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I have 10 minuets, let's do this

signal heart
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Heya

rotund ferry
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Hellooo

ruby slate
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now, what is going on? its a curse? a disease? plague?

signal heart
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Ahighty then we jump right in

forest condor
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Q:what was the event that caused Fr Nico and Dr Winkler to disappear without a trace?

minor peak
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@signal heart @rotund ferry maqHi maqHi maqHi maqHi maqHi

signal heart
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Wait wait, one at a time

rotund ferry
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Q: For how long was the Hunter Association existing before the events of the game?

elfin laurel
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I've put the channel in a slow mode so please ask your question in one go if you have one. That way they have an easier time answering 😃

signal heart
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So...first question first, is it a plague or what

brave mural
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Well I hope everyone has Fun, But im in class Learning Phonemes lol

elfin laurel
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Also please try to keep the channel for lore questions only. We get it you all want to say hi but that doesn't help them answering things 😃

scenic crater
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Hej ho.
Yeah, whats that all about?
Was it a plague, a ritual?
It as a quasi Post or Pre Apocalyptic world?
How are the Hunting Societies organized?
Are the Hunters really living beings, or cursed themselves?

graceful glade
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Q: Is there a lore behind hunters resilience (handling gunshots and being revived) or is it purely a gameplay element ?

cold bough
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Q: Will Bob Ross ever finish his painting?

halcyon raven
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What brought upon the monsters from hell?

signal heart
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Q1...So at the time, a lot of people are describing it as a plague. I'd say it's accurate as a metaphor, but not a literal plague

rotund ferry
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Q: Are Vitality shots made using bits of infected monsters/demons?

agile forum
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Q: Does whatever Dimension or Entity from which the Creatures come (guessing Hell) react to the Hunter sending them back

frigid copper
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Q:is this before or after or maybe during the civil war and is it affecting it

leaden panther
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Q: How do hunters end up in the quickplay mode?

minor peak
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Q: Any explanation why Hunters instantly die with no explanation when the contract timer expires? I understand this is gameplay-issue but any lore reason behind this?

patent ice
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Q: is the assassin a hive mind of bugs or is it one person

rotund ferry
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Q: Was this game made because you wanted to make something based around the Deadlands Tabletop but couldn't get your hands on the license?

dark slate
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Q: did the infection spread beyond Louisiana?

forest condor
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It did spread, we know this it's not locaized to the us

rotund ferry
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Q: Are Hunters Celibate?

frigid copper
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Q:is it in Texas or Mexico

deep basalt
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Q: If hunters are all part of the same association, why do they kill others among them?

forest condor
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@deep basaltcause they're sucky people that's actually the reason, they're bad people who are greedy for the power of the bounty

pearl sandal
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Q : Is the hunters association imply in the "plaque" ?

rugged raft
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Q:People turned into grunts, hives ... are they aware of their state or their mind simply disappear with the infection?

rotund ferry
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Q1: A disease or a curse – characteristics of each. The late 19th century was a period of cultural revolution, where scientific replaced religious thinking. The closing of the western frontier obliterated oral folklores and mythologies, but in turn imaginative thinking emerged again in the burgeoning genre of science fiction. What’s affecting the bayou is an amalgamation of these anxieties

agile forum
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@deep basalt Well I guess they are Bounty Hunters right, they do it for money

azure vessel
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Are the immolators the remains of the hunters that get burned in Quickplay?

rotund ferry
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Q2: what was the event that caused Fr Nico and Dr Winkler to disappear without a trace?

The final days of Fr Nico and Dr Winkler are detailed in the Grunt entries, I think once you read all of them you can put 2+2 together

noble vine
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Q: What is the point of the entities to spread the affliction? do they have a reason they came here?

lean ingot
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Q: Who sends the hunters to the swamp]

frigid copper
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Q:is the bosses people who had the "plaque" the longest or did they do something to make them worse like how the butcher is a meat head with a pig head on him

flint sinew
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Q: Where did the trench-work come from? Was there some kind of containment/survival effort or were they there from before the zombies?

signal heart
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Q What is the water devil... I'd recommend unlocking all of the Water Devil Entries for that answer

rotund ferry
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Q: why is only lousianna "cursed"?

fluid kernel
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Where did the water from the bayou come from?

forest condor
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@rotund ferry it's not the only place

slim hatch
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Maybe focus on documented questions? Because many questions asked are openly known answers already.

minor peak
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Q: Are you guys planning to create videos depicting the exact manner of how people transformed into grotesque monsters? A trailer depicted for 1-2 seconds the transformation of woman into hive so I wondered.

cursive charm
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Q: where does the wellspring come from / creation

violet pelican
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Q: Is the 'event' strictly localized to Louisiana? A specific region of Louisiana? Is it going to spread or arise in other locations? In which case, are we going to get non-Louisiana bayou maps?

signal heart
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Next up: Q: Is the game in the past or future? Or maybe an alternate universe?
The gameplay is set in 1895

rotund ferry
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Q4: when will we get some actual lore released instead of us guessing?
Book of Monsters!
Q5: Is the rest of the World also infected?
No - over time we're going to give more and more insights into the rest of the world, though of course our focus is on the bayou
Q6: Are Vitality shots made using bits of infected monsters/demons?
We'll definitely go into this in upcoming Book of Weapons - where we give origins of everything in the arsenal!

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Q: What are the insects on the hives and the new Assassin boss?

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Q: Are Hunters split in regards to the new technology like the Dolch and Mosin Avtomat replacing the much more reliable caldwells and winfields?

warm herald
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Q: What is the starting point of all these events?

molten prawn
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Q: Are the bosses mutated past-humans or spawns/Demons from Hell ?

elfin laurel
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Please make sure to keep the questions lore related, and check if someone already asked a similar question 😃

signal heart
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Ahight, next up: Q: did the infection spread beyond Louisiana?
A: There have been incidents recorded in other parts of the world

fluid kernel
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Q: Is there any hidden secrets in game we have yet to find that would relate to hidden lore?

dark slate
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Q: do dead hunters eventually transform into zombies and roam de bayou?

deep basalt
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Can mods like pin or highlight dev answers?

slim hatch
tired mural
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Q: what does the hunter organization get from the bounties, and/or what are the bounties, I'm guessing something they use bounties as a weapon?

azure notch
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Q: Will there be more lore to read in the future?

fluid kernel
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Q: what is holding the boss to its lair?

rotund ferry
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Q: How many hunting societies are there?

scenic crater
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Are the hunting Duos linked to each other, maybe magically? So, if one dies his partner resurrects him with his life energy, for example?
Do they perform some kind of ritual to bond with each other?

violet pelican
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Q: How long do the incidents last? When does the Bayou one end? The Book of Monsters seems to imply it was written long after this event concluded.

dusk berry
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Q: Are the Hunters also Infected by the Devil?

fluid kernel
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Q: if bosses don't roam why do they leave clues?

rotund ferry
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Q: is there a name of the plague that effects lousianna?

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Q: Why is the Devil so lenient in regards to bargaining with Hunters? Doesn't he realize that they're using his powers to stop his plans?

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Q: How did the hunter association keep people quiet about what's happening in the bayou and stop rumors from spreading

slim hatch
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@deep basalt Check pins scroll down there is QnA #1 , #2 and characters + Snippets of lore that we managed to unlock

polar zodiac
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Q: Who is buying bountys and what is used for ?

undone sky
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Q: What type of evil magic is it? Christian hell or more like Haïtien voodoo?

tired mural
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Q: is the magic alchemy? ^^ (also pertaining to his question)

ruby slate
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what are the bountyes?

rotund ferry
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Q:is this before or after or maybe during the civil war and is it affecting it
A: After the civil war - 1895. But there were likely incidents during

Q: How do hunters end up in the quickplay mode?
A: Damned souls with nothing only one hope for salvation - The Wellspring

noble vine
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Q: What happens to the hunters when they die? Will they be "damned"? and what does "damned" in this context mean?

violet pelican
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Q: Are the damned souls in quickplay hunters that already died then? And the Wellspring is a chance for them to resurrect?

signal heart
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@rotund ferry Game is set in 1895...some we are dealing with are early prototypes

dry frigate
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Q: Can we expect more famous hunters to show up? And if yes, will they give us an insight on what its like to be a hunter?

tired mural
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Q: Is the bayou the afterlife and you are actually sending the monsters to earth?

rotund ferry
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Regarding were some questions yesterday about the Butcher Entries and there being multiple bosses, it's also in the question doc linked.

Previously, in a Q&A, a former colleague of ours announced that there was only 1 of each boss, and each match is just a retelling of a story. At the time, that could’ve made sense. However, when it came to putting together the Book of Monsters that part of the lore just didn’t sit right with us. It didn’t seem to match the game play, it didn’t match the player’s experience. There didn’t seem to be enough frame to support the idea that each match is someone retelling of the same story. After all, a Hunter can kill a Spider multiple times in their lifetime, and players do hundreds of times.

We’re really proud of Hunt’s photorealism, detailed environments, grotesque monsters, and realistic weapons. In being so immersive, it felt wrong to turn around and say – “hey, this visceral game you’re playing is actually a retelling of a retelling of a story.” If there were mechanics that supported this storytelling theme, or a frame in which a Hunter would speak and tell you this was there story, it might make sense.

It was a difficult decision to go back on what was said, but weighing everything up we didn’t really think that the ‘1 boss ever’ idea just didn’t have a lot backing it up, and was limiting our approach. There are multiple storytellers in Hunt, take everything you read with a pinch of salt, but throughout 1895, the Spider, Butcher and Assassin were encountered and killed at different times in different places.

fluid kernel
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Q: whats the lore behind the duck with legs and arms?

signal heart
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And...this is an addition tot he answer about the "one boss or multiple bosses thing"...to get into details following what Hearn just said. The first occurrence of each boss, which is what you are reading about in the Book of Monsters, involved one person being “turned,” and that original person/their soul/whatever you want to call that remains tied to that form, tormented in a kind of purgatory, doomed to respawn in the same hellish form again and again and again. Does that make it “just one” or multiples? I would argue its multiples, as its respawning, but the soul used in its creation is stuck in there each time. So there is a binding element that connects all Butchers/Spiders/Grunts etc, but technically, it’s a new creature each time. New creature same recipe.”

fluid kernel
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Q: was there any sort of kid variants? there seems to be a lot of dolls.

forest condor
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Q: is there only one instance of each boss at a time?(just for a yes or no clarification)

fleet plover
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Q: Any plans for monster based weaponry. Like a bone spike we can throw.

signal heart
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@forest condor I think its more complicated than yes or no, see my answer just now

dark slate
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Q: so the hunters are doomed to kill bosses and each other again and again in multiple universes for the devils entertainment?

stable pumice
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Q: Do you have plan for Book of guns like is Book of monster in path 6.0

rotund ferry
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Q: Any explanation why Hunters instantly die with no explanation when the contract timer expires? I understand this is gameplay-issue but any lore reason behind this?
A: Abstraction - when you're lost in the bayou, you're good as dead

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Q: If hunters are all part of the same association, why do they kill others among them?
A: It's less of a strict organization, more a common interest group. when those interests get too common, it turns to conflict. Why do you kill other hunters? We want to explore this more definitely in Book of Weapons content

signal heart
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Ahight next up: what is voodoo's role...
Voodoo plays a peripheral role here, in the same way that Christianity and any other religions do: those who believe in x religion attempt to fit their explanation of the events into their belief system. The “infection” is not religious in origin, however.

dry frigate
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Q: Why are so many hunters shooting each other for the bounty to begin with? It must be
an incredible source of power or make you insanely rich. It can't be that all the hunters are just psychos, right?

ruby slate
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@fluid kernel I saw bodies of kids near a river stream in Lawson delta map. but they were part of the scenario

thick steppe
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Q:Is the association secret or somewhat widely known? Wouldn't it be easier to deal with the incidents via mobilizing the whole U.S military instead of making mercenary groups?

sinful trout
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Q: approximately how many of each boss was there. As in how many times approximately was each one resoawned

forest condor
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Q:if there's no religious connection why are voodoo practitioners contacting Huff, and why is he taking Marie Louvre seriously

tired mural
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what does the hunter organization do with the bounties, or are they just "tells" that the thing was killed, like part of a dead body in bounty hunting... or is there more?

rotund ferry
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Q: Has the AHA experimented with time travel?
A: No.

Q:People turned into grunts, hives ... are they aware of their state or their mind simply disappear with the infection?
A: Read the entries!

Q: What is the point of the entities to spread the affliction? do they have a reason they came here?
A: Hunger ... we'll hopefully have a chance to go more into this, but can't make any promises

forest condor
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Q: in quickplay are hunters bringing anything more then their renewed selves back .

tired mural
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@rotund ferry we already have one, in the 6.0 update

signal heart
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Q: How did the hunter association keep people quiet about what's happening in the bayou and stop rumors from spreading
A: Most people thought it was a plague. People who got too close to the real story were sometimes killed. Rumors could not be stopped entirely.

noble vine
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Q: What do you have to sacrifice to be able to use darksight? Is it a kind of a deal with the other dimension?

signal heart
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Q: why are some non infected corpses to be found in the world? Are they immune?
A: Some were likely immune, but many were simply killed before becoming infected

rotund ferry
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Q:is the bosses people who had the "plaque" the longest or did they do something to make them worse like how the butcher is a meat head with a pig head on him
A: Book of Monsters!
Q: Where did the trench-work come from? Was there some kind of containment/survival effort or were they there from before the zombies?
In Lawson Delta? Some backwaters never invested the manpower to immediately demolish fortifications following the Civil War. Farming was more important
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forest condor
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Q: can you describe the ritual around gaining darksight?

rotund ferry
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Q:What power is the dark sight exactly? Is it some kind of magic?

minor peak
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Q: Are the authorities aware of the outbreak in Lousiana? If so, why are they not taking any action, particularly to AHA's practices?
Are AHA's practices legal or illegal?

sinful trout
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Q: You say some people were immune. If the plague is believed to be super atural like you said. How does that translate

rotund ferry
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Q: is hunt showdown set in an alternate timeline or is it set in the same timeline as ours?

signal heart
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@sinful trout Then let's put it this way, it is possible to be unaffected

sinful trout
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Gotvha

sand canyon
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Q: How old is the Hunter's association? Did it originate from an older society that migrated from the old world to the new world or somewhere else?

rotund ferry
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Was AHA founded specifically for the plague

signal heart
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Q: How does Dark Sight work
A: We'll be exploring this in upcoming lore

main quail
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Q: Why does the plague cause people to eat each other, so they die instrad of turning?

sinful trout
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Q. Is some forms of law enforcement aware of ahas existence?

undone sky
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@rotund ferry you mean alternative univers?

signal heart
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Q: Are the AHA's activities illegal?
A: Im not sure US law covers the murder of monsters

untold lodge
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Q: Is there anything from a lore perspective keeping the infected from leaving the map and spreading the horror?

forest condor
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Q: do the bosses have involvement in wellsprings?

ruby slate
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@rotund ferry its in the past 1895, represents that time, but its not real life events...

forest condor
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Q:why are qp hunters so underequipped, were they looted after "dying" or whatever happened to them to make them wake up

noble vine
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Q: in the trailer you can see some voynich letters (thanks @forest condor ) Do they have a meaning? did the ancient kings already struggle with the entities?

rotund ferry
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Q: where does the wellspring come from / creation
A: From the same place as the 'sculptor'

Q: Are Hunters split in regards to the new technology like the Dolch and Mosin Avtomat replacing the much more reliable caldwells and winfields?
A: Yes! everyone has their preferences - some are more traditional.

Q: What is the starting point of all these events?
A: Now this is a good question!

Q: Are the bosses mutated past-humans or spawns/Demons from Hell ?
A: the answers to this can be found in the Book of Monsters

minor peak
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Q: But if AHA activities are not illegal, isnt murdering a hunter illegal?

sinful trout
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Q. We were told people could come back from the sculptors influence. Whst eould be the cut off point to brung someone back? Exposed organs? Fleshy bits?

rotund ferry
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Q: Is there any hidden secrets in game we have yet to find that would relate to hidden lore?
A: @signal heart Did they find everything in Lawson Delta yet?

main quail
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Q: Can hunters learn different powers (if there are many) or do they get them from rituals

signal heart
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@rotund ferry wouldnt you like to know

forest condor
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Q: is the wellspring a weapon

stable pumice
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Q: Do you have plan make lore about Gunsmith and armories and Gun manufactures like crown and king , Caldwell ,Winfield ?

full fog
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Q: how do the hunters not get their brains splattered all over the wall with a mosin headshot or how do they not get absolutely decimated by Bomb Lance bolt exploding in their guts? Is it just a gameplay mechanic or is there an actual reason in the lore for it?

signal heart
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@stable pumice
Book of Weapons 😃

tired mural
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Q: what does the hunter organization do with the bounties, or are they just "tells" that the thing was killed, like part of a dead body in bounty hunting... or is there more?

stable pumice
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hawthorne | words thanks for answer 😃

signal heart
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Q: Did william salters steal documents from aha's asylum? If so. Did he try to warn people of the curse?
A: Youre gonna be hearing a lot more from Salters soon

ruby slate
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@full fog it would be a lot harder to revive...

sand canyon
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Q: Reading the history of the compounds in the Bayou, there is evidence of isolated tragic events that had occurred at some point before the Hunt. Are these the cause or call for the demonic forces, or a side effect from when they were rising?

rotund ferry
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Q: What is the sculptor?

undone sky
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Q: Is there a way to communicate with the infected?

noble vine
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Q: how did the entities come to our world? was the portal opened somehow?

rotund ferry
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Q: do dead hunters eventually transform into zombies and roam de bayou?
A: it is possible

Q: what does the hunter organization get from the bounties, and/or what are the bounties, I'm guessing something they use bounties as a weapon?
A: Another really good question, they certainly use them for something - this story though deserves a really good telling

signal heart
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Q: Are the marks and rings that hunters carry upon themselves a way to amplify certain abilities? Or are they purely cosmetic.
A: Some are ritual markings, some religious, some superstitious, some cosmetic.

undone sky
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Q: Do you plan to add certain players actions as lore material?

rotund ferry
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Q: Will there be more lore to read in the future?
A: Book of Weapons!
Q: what is holding the boss to its lair?
A: holding - or hiding? seems pretty dangerous to be a Target with so many hunters around

noble vine
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have to go off topic for a moment: thank you very much for doing this. I think its not common that there is such nice bonding between community and developers

paper sparrow
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Q: Where do retired hunters go? If the whole world is overrun with evil, where do they ”retire” for a peaceful last years of their life.

full fog
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Q: why don't the mosters attack eachother? 🤔

tawny stump
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Q: Will the Book of Weapons be in PDF format?

urban burrow
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Q: Is there more then one realm at play, besides ours and the "sculptors realm"?

deep basalt
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Q: Are the titles of the books in a particular (maybe magic) form of latin? (I think the "de" is not necessary "monstrorum" being genitive)

signal heart
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Q: are hives strictly female in host body type? Or can men become hives as well.
A: So this connects to the answer about whether monsters are single occur. or multiples. As each creature originates from one particular person that is then trapped in that cycle, and the Hive was “built” from a woman, I would reckon yes, only women. We only have evidence of female Hives so far. But I can't say for sure we won't find evidence one day

fleet plover
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Q: Would it fit the lore to have hunters collect an ear from each hunter they kill to keep as a trophy, like a necklace? ( a possible prestige bonus, collection of hunter kills and to find out the names of slain hunters.

warm herald
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Q: Will there be a book about hunters?

pearl sandal
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Q : Is the AHA really try to stop the 'plague' or do they just want to 'harverst' the power from the bounty ?

forest condor
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Q: can fully dead people be transformed by the sculpter? Or does it require a living host

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Q:is there a physical manifestation of dark sight boost

noble vine
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Q: you can recruit and play hunters. Do you basically play a kind of business making money with the hunters missions? could explain the bloodline (crazy i know)

sinful trout
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Q. Is picking up headshotted hunters purely gameplay mechanic?

urban burrow
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Q: Is waking up at the beginning of QP lore related or Gampeplay?

rotund ferry
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Q: How long do the incidents last? When does the Bayou one end? The Book of Monsters seems to imply it was written long after this event concluded.
A: we're exploring the story throughout 1895 at the moment

Q: if bosses don't roam why do they leave clues?
A: When the hunters are away, the bosses come out to play

Q: Why is the Devil so lenient in regards to bargaining with Hunters? Doesn't he realize that they're using his powers to stop his plans?
A: Bargaining? Hunters generally think it's better to ask forgiveness, than permission

signal heart
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Q: The hive transformation seems very calm and not unpleasant. The recruit being interviewed described it like the victim she witnessed couldn't care less about being transformed. Is the conversion from human to hive mind before the hive bursts from their chests?
A: Im not sure who to ask to clarify since this one came from the community doc, but am wondering if the asker has read all Hive entries yet?...I wouldnt call that pleasant. The person being interviewed is not the person who transformed, and is being interviewed a while after the incident

sinful trout
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And ive resd what weve uncovered but the lady just let bugs fly into her mouth like she didnt know she was transforming

signal heart
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Q: There has been a noticeable change in the tone of hunts lore. Why is that? Ex: before the game seemed dark and the lore had a bitter evil texture. Now its more light and fluffy.
A: Please define light and fluffy I am not familiar with these words

undone sky
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Light and fluffy? Have you see the Assassin?

fleet plover
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Q: Would it fit the lore to have hunters collect an ear from each hunter they kill to keep as a trophy, like a necklace? ( a possible prestige bonus, collection of hunter kills and to find out the names of slain hunters.

signal heart
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@sinful trout Yeah, weird right?

rotund ferry
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Q: What happens to the hunters when they die? Will they be "damned"? and what does "damned" in this context mean?
Q: Are the damned souls in quickplay hunters that already died then? And the Wellspring is a chance for them to resurrect?
A: Yes! Hunters get a chance at salvation - but Damned is sort of evocative
Q: Can we expect more famous hunters to show up? And if yes, will they give us an insight on what its like to be a hunter?
A: Stay tuned!

polar zodiac
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Q: why boss become to "boss" why not they just a infected like hive or gront

urban burrow
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Q: When does lore come into play? Are developers consulting you guys while making new game mechanics or are you tasked with adding lore to new game mechanics and added content?

rotund ferry
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Q: Is the bayou the afterlife and you are actually sending the monsters to earth?
A: that would be messed up

sinful trout
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Hawthorne.agaon my bad for not beingclear. The questioneans the game felt more grim because the lore was gruesome. Now some entries seem to give "inspiration to hunters" that they can kill the boss.

signal heart
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Q: Would it fit the lore to have hunters collect an ear from each hunter they kill to keep as a trophy, like a necklace?
A: Im sure there's a hunter out there doing that

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@sinful trout Fair enough. Ask me again after you've finished the book of monsters

lucid mica
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Q: who are we really? , because we as players only control a hunter whom we recruit, what I mean is there a bloodline, are we a noble or are we someone behind the castratrophe?

ripe sedge
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Q: Are the monster names all set in stone, or are there plans to give them potentially more unique titles?

ruby slate
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Q: everything is cursed and doomed, but is there any "Holy" power in the game? any power monsters fear?

sinful trout
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Q. Will we be able to ask questions in the future? I know a lot of us are busy at this time

coarse quest
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What is the “Power” that hunters get from the bounties? Why are they willing to risk everything to go after them?

rotund ferry
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Q: whats the lore behind the duck with legs and arms?
A: That's the key to the whole puzzle /s

Q: is there only one instance of each boss at a time?(just for a yes or no clarification)
A: One at a time

Q: Any plans for monster based weaponry. Like a bone spike we can throw.
A: Hive Bomb is a thing, but that question is more for the Weapons people - i could see it happen though!

Q: so the hunters are doomed to kill bosses and each other again and again in multiple universes for the devils entertainment?
A: You go to work every day, too

full fog
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Q: Is the player some kind of entity that is possessing the hunters or are we seeing their memories with their eyes before they died?

forest condor
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Q: when banishing a boss do you create the portal that appears under them?

signal heart
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And to go back to a question that was answered a bit too definitively for my taste in a previous AMA:
Q: 1. Did Dear Dr.Reed Become the spider or not?
A: It's complicated. Book of Monsters addresses this situation

tawny stump
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Q: Who leaves the wagons at the exits?

tired mural
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Q: who is the brave soul who drives the wagons?!?

signal heart
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Q: why was there a sudden radio silence in response from lore devs?
A: We are under NDA and cant discuss unreleased content

noble vine
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Q: why do the hunters hunt? Just for sport? Or is there a deeper reason?

signal heart
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Q: Are there multiple “groups” within the aha? Ex: like mafia families. Certain groups that operate outside of ahas parameters
A: This is addressed in future lore

urban burrow
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Q: How dedicated are non writing staff to ensuring game mechanics fit lore?

full fog
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Q: does AHA provide the extractions for the hunters via Wagons and armored boats?

tawny stump
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Q: Why does such a small village need such a huge crematorium?!

rotund ferry
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Q: Do you have plan for Book of guns like is Book of monster in path 6.0
A: Yes! Book of Weapons
Q: Why are so many hunters shooting each other for the bounty to begin with? It must be an incredible source of power or make you insanely rich. It can't be that all the hunters are just psychos, right?
A: Sadly, people have shot each other over less.

signal heart
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Q: Will we be getting more lore on sinan? Or even haywards daughter?
A: It's possible

tired mural
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Q: why all the pigs all over the place? I get the lore standpoint and the aesthetics, but goddamn....

rotund ferry
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Q: is the bounty the extracted soul of the boss?

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Q:Is the association secret or somewhat widely known? Wouldn't it be easier to deal with the incidents via mobilizing the whole U.S military instead of making mercenary groups?
A: There's a widely known hunter's association, but that's a front. Who says the powers at be want the situation resolved asap - or even believe there is a crisis? Look at the goverment response to the Bubonic Plague in San Francisco around the same time

sacred sable
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Q: Is there only one Hunter association or is there more, and are they hostile or friendly towards each other

urban burrow
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Q: Can you give us a brief example of the day in the life of the writers?

full fog
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Q: Is the player some kind of entity that is possessing the hunters?

signal heart
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Q: How dedicated are non writing staff to ensuring game mechanics fit lore?
A: It's really important to us. We're all really dedicated to making the best game possible...its a give and take from all sides.

noble vine
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Q: is every match a planned event? because you spawn at the same time as everyone else.

urban burrow
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(I am interested in the behind the scenes stuff sorry if that was not the intent of this QnA)

misty kelp
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Q: Why are hunters killing each other for the bounties? Is it just for the money?

sinful trout
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Q. is the player a researcher looking back on previous hunts trying ti piece the game together? The more money they spend per hunter being the more resources required to dig up their story?

signal heart
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Q: Can you give us a brief example of the day in the life of the writers?
A: Sure, but mayb you would like a blog post on this?
@urban burrow Cant type quite that fast

urban burrow
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@signal heart A blog would be absolutely awesome about this

sinful trout
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Lore blogs in general would be great

tired mural
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maybe also a blog about sound design.. ^3^ edit: thanks @elfin laurel

elfin laurel
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We had a sound design blog in the past + a developer diary, they can be found on our youtube. We might also do a stream for that in the future

undone sky
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As the song "Wake up dead man" have anything lore related?

noble vine
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Q: Why do the bosses even exist? what is their task?

signal heart
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@sinful trout Well sounds fun we'll see what we can do

urban burrow
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Q: QP feels a bit off to me from a lore perspective....Where you guys involved from the outset? Or did you have to shoe horn lore into the game mechanics ?

signal heart
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Q: Why are hunters killing each other for the bounties? Is it just for the money?
A: Greed, glory, boredom, you name it, there is someone hunting for that reason

rotund ferry
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Q: approximately how many of each boss was there. As in how many times approximately was each one resoawned
A: not possible to count
Q:if there's no religious connection why are voodoo practitioners contacting Huff, and why is he taking Marie Louvre seriously
A: These are important figures in the community at large, their faiths give them a lens of understanding - incorrect about the details, a good sense of the bigger picture
Q: what does the hunter organization do with the bounties, or are they just "tells" that the thing was killed, like part of a dead body in bounty hunting... or is there more?
A: more
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gloomy adder
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Why is the military not sent in?

signal heart
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Q: As the song "Wake up dead man" have anything lore related?
A: The songs are lore related

noble vine
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Q: why are there caged dogs and hellhounds? are the caged ones immune?

warm herald
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Q: How the hunters banish the bosses?

long grotto
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Hunt has absolutely perfect premise for deep lore - we want more!!! Much more, please 😃 - this is not a question, this is DEMAND! 😉

urban burrow
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Q: Do the organizations hold political power in any way outside of these events?

forest condor
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Q: any chance we'll get a clean version of rise up dead man with vocals? ( For lore ofc)

urban burrow
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Q: Will you start making black and white comics pages for lore tidbits....PLEASE and thank you

undone sky
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Right it's "RISE up dead man" I'm an idiot

signal heart
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Q: Do the organizations hold political power in any way outside of these events?
A: Some of them, in various capacities

rotund ferry
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Q: What do you have to sacrifice to be able to use darksight? Is it a kind of a deal with the other dimension?
A: Sometimes, everyone sacrifices something different

Q: can you describe the ritual around gaining darksight?
A: We will

Q: What power is the dark sight exactly? Is it some kind of magic?
A: More like .. some science, some magic

signal heart
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Q: why HHMMMM HMMMM HMMMM hmmmmmmm, and not hmmmm hmmm HMMMM hmmmm for rise up dead man?
A: Lyrical genius

forest condor
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I was referring the the qp trailer that had lyrics

rotund ferry
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whew! that was a mad hour

undone sky
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You did good

urban burrow
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Q: Do the inflicted think for themselves? (Grunt to butcher) If not is it a hive mind?

signal heart
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@rotund ferry In the question about are songs lore?

misty kelp
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Q: Why are there so many ravens on the maps? Are they attracted to zombies? How come zombies don't scare them off?

forest condor
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:+1:

fleet plover
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Ear necklace, think about it.

urban burrow
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NO, YOUR NOT DONE!

rugged raft
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good job 😄

tired mural
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please no

stable pumice
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Q i have no idea this was answered but is plan for Book Of hunter ?

forest condor
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@signal heart yeah

signal heart
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We can take one last question each

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@forest condor Yeah was just kidding about the hmm hmm thing, the songs are all a part of lore

urban burrow
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Q: Do the inflicted think for themselves? (Grunt to butcher) If not is it a hive mind?

misty kelp
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Q: Who are the hunters exactly? Just volunteers that came for money and glory to kill zombies and risk their lives?

fleet plover
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What was the hardest part of development of hunt and what was the best part so far?

elfin laurel
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Sadly there are still some questions unanswered by maybe during another AMA in the future 😉 note that all the questions + answers are pinned in this channel (top right)

undone sky
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@misty kelp That is ravens nature, they eat corpse, their's a lot a corpse on the map

rotund ferry
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This was super fun - we should definitely do it again soon

noble vine
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Huge thanks!!

deep basalt
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thank you guys

forest condor
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Q: do hunters generate the portal used to banish bossez

urban burrow
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@elfin laurel Can us americans get some love on the time next time?

forest condor
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And yeah proxy

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Us freedoms need some love

urban burrow
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Missed 90% of it

tired mural
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my question was still answered even though @elfin laurel deleted it ;3

misty kelp
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Interesting and super cool how you guys actually care about the playerbase. Peace!

tired mural
paper sparrow
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Q: Where do retired hunters go? If the whole world is overrun with evil, where do they ”retire” for a peaceful last years of their life.

fleet plover
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It was because of your aversion to the ear necklace.

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😉

paper sparrow
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My question was never answered

forest condor
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Same for some of mine, but they can't get to everything

urban burrow
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I had 2 answered im happy with that

tired mural
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I had 3

forest condor
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They did good, that's more then enough

signal heart
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This has been way fun, hold on a sec, we're just figuring out last question...

sacred sable
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everyone should thank @signal heart and @rotund ferry that they were available to answer most of our questions we've been having for a long time!

undone sky
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@paper sparrow I think just like IRL it depends on the hunter

urban burrow
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Agreed, Awesome of them to do this

forest condor
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Thank you very much, you turned the desert into an oasis

tired mural
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@sacred sable hol' up, they are still working on their last answer

paper sparrow
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No because the whole world is overrun with evil @undone sky

tired mural
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Thunk and I don't pay until they do their job /s

noble vine
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thanks again! We had a lot of fun too inhaling the new infos

tired mural
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thanks a lot though, not very often developers do this

forest condor
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He's typing

signal heart
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Ahight we both have answers to this one: Q: What was the hardest part of development of hunt and what was the best part so far?

fleet plover
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We get a little behind the scenes stuff!

urban burrow
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Nice

signal heart
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A: Writing the lore for Hunt has been unbelievably fun. Couldnt really pick a best part, just coming in to work everyday, researching, talking things out with @rotund ferry and then turning it all into the fictions. The hardest part has been having to wait to have it release so you could get your eyes on it!

fleet plover
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nice

noble vine
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a non-related curiosity question: do smn of you know a certain mr. Acker? He is my teacher at my graphic design training and he designed the endcard i think

rotund ferry
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agree with @signal heart

Hunt is old, I’ve been aware of it for five years, working on it for a few less. The hardest thing has been letting some stuff go, but it’s been rewarding as I really think it’s been for the better – I’m super proud of the state the game is in, and it’s really awesome working with a great team. The best part is just getting our stuff in and seeing it be received!
........and the old timey newspapers - check them out

urban burrow
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Maybe hardest, but i bet you guys loved dropping those bread crumbs

fleet plover
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I live in louisiana, there is so much folklore.

signal heart
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OLD TIMEY NEWSPAPERS ARE THE BEST

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Sorry, for the caps, they just make me that happy

undone sky
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Q: Who came up first with the concept of the lore of hunt? Not the gameplay just the universe

tired mural
forest condor
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Yeah, we uncovered some of the BOM just by checking out some of the clippings around towns

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It was fun

tired mural
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I mean, reading the actual newspapers from 1895 😃

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But

forest condor
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Oh that too I guess

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But glad you found Bunny 😃

tired mural
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oh wow, I didn't even know you read actual newspapers, I thought you were talking about the ones in-game

forest condor
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Bunny is best name for best doggo

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😃

urban burrow
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We need love on the time of the next one for sure, though..Us americans love your lore too

tired mural
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also credit goes to @minor peak for the original screenshot

forest condor
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If you want to write a complete backstory for the adventures of bunny and (Hunter's name) we won't argue

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Lol

signal heart
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Ok, I hate to leave, but I have to go. As a parting gift, I shall paste a sentence from the open lore document Im writing on today

forest condor
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Ohhhhh

tired mural
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o3o

forest condor
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@urban burrow I feel ya, I'm in class rn for this whole thing, but substitutes are awesome so here I am

urban burrow
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Lol my phone woke me up going crazy and i saw this when i was about to go back to sleep haha

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Crap I dont know how to pcik

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Ok Will throw a dart

noble vine
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bye! hope its gonna be repeated someday!

urban burrow
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lol hawthorne

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Thanks again for doing this

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"She was alive, but badly disfigured - bones broken or crushed, skin scalded by digestive acid - and thickly coated with mucus. "

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It's been fun

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See you all sooner than later next time

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Cheers

fleet plover
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ooo

urban burrow
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digestive acid

signal heart
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waves

fleet plover
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GG

urban burrow
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WAIT

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You cant leave us with that and leave

forest condor
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Finishes ama with more questions than answers

urban burrow
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SO CRUEL

tired mural
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goodbye my friends.....

noble vine
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bursts in tears

forest condor
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It's been great though, that was fun

tired mural
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I'm calling it now

undone sky
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Why do I feel an aligator?

tired mural
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someone was eaten by the butcher

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or that :(

urban burrow
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We getting a spitter or an aligator

noble vine
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brutally punches the floor

frigid copper
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We have gotten a bit but not many

tired mural
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I mean, she was alive

forest condor
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Maybe it's detailing the rescue of someone from the sculpter

undone sky
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If they give us a freaking aligator this game will becomes a horror one for me

rotund ferry
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Alright - I'm also dropping out for now as well - peace everyone! 🕊

tired mural
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I'm glad they didn't can the sculpter ordeal