#lore-discussion
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k i think that would fix the dirtwar from the chat above XD
Also, once the main doc is done a color coding system will probably be implemented in some extent
Weather it's to display the factual-ness of the lore piece or to show what's newer than a month old
So the book will be a summary which makes it easier to get all the information about the lore. I like this idea! and it fits with @slim hatchs stance, because its not fiction, but things we already know for sure and its useful at that point, that we have now an easier way to inform, especially for new people. ( @slim hatch correct me when i got you wrong)
No on that I agree
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Iβd not call it book tho Iβd still split it into docs based on topic
Because as a book itβs gonna be a very long time before it had the informational content that warrant term book
But thats kinda personal opinion.
I'm not planning on writing headcannon
whatever its called
I'm not planning on writing fan-fiction
I want to get the docs to encompass what we know and some possible theories (which are marked as theories) on how they fit in
so we all agree with that i think. diplomacy++
Just for clarity sake
- Split into docs by topic
- Combine all into chapters once we have enough information for it to warrant term chapter
- Open access like done in hardcore
Sorry for delay got distracted by needles XD
- Split into sections in the same doc
- No open access
Same doc allows better consolidation
Less confusion for new people if the just have to scroll to see correlation
Also it's not just me with access to the doc, @sinful trout and @late tinsel have access as well and are helping me with accuracy and voodoo respectfully
Fox is also helping with accuracy but he's the voodoo guy too
@slim hatch Just let them do it the way they want to, come on, what's the point of arguing if they are putting the work in π
Something something inaccuracies and presidents daughter, wheve been over this and I'm not budging on the open source thing
@burnt storm Agreed fuck it. Let them do their thing.
@atomic crow you mean the true deck?
I remember seeing something like that in Hunt: Showdown's RoadMap. What do you think it might be?
Since Tarot Cards is related to Voodoo I believe.
What we know is that a deck of tarot named True deck exist. And this deck hold some power. It also seem that the deck contain more than the usual tarot cards.
What we don't know is are there only one deck or many? What power are inside the cards?
Some have guessed that maybe the true deck are the traits we get....I personally think thats a lazy way of doing it but have not ruled it out of the realm of possibility
betting good money on Laveau having part of a True Deck
I just hope its not traits, just such a lazy way of doing it and makes no real damn sense.
Ye. Iβll consult the cards tonight with my diviner specialist and let you know what I find out.
lol
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My reasoning is that Traits are all things that are learned from experience. The true deck has 0 power if its traits because its just damn learned things
True Deck strikes me more as revelation than evolution.
I think it would be cool if the true deck was conditions and or modifiers.
Could easily link that with lore
To some degree, yeah. We know it shows possible fates, but those can be altered.
There is a reference to trait cards in the same place the true deck is referenced on the hunters desk
I hope the traits fit into the true deck but it's more than just that
I hope the traits tie into the true deck, but not that they are the entire deck
Oh well
I think the traits could still tie into the true deck, ones like bulletgrubber and bolt thrower.are just enhanced reflexes and dexterity(let's be honest nobody can operate a crossbow like that) blodless and mithradist could be modifiers to a body, along with hornback and bulwark
I'm still convinced that conduit allows either patching oneself into a forming wellspring or into the wellspring dimension through the clues
Fanning falls into Dexterity
Bold seeer is probably an enhancement to the eyes
Bolt not bold
Most can be learned tho
like fanning or the crossbow trait
others could be gameplay related like boltseer
Btw do we know that the guy who saw the tower and was scared was using the true deck?
We know that
And learning something like fanning or bolt thrower is hard to do consistantly, having some magic imbued with s hunter isn't that far fetched
Especially when the hunter by default can barely pull back the crossbow and he doesn't seem to beef up with training
i think the traits have nothing undiscovered. Its the classic "your hunter gets experienced and learns new things" system. The tarot cards could be a human made thing to interact with the entities maybe?
Look at the desk, there's a trait card next to a card from the true deck, they're formatted the same way
And don't hit me with the idea that traits don't hid things
maybe the pictures of the true deck were just used for the traits?
Conduit holds a direct correlation with the wellspring
And that would be a massive oversight on the lore team
It directly shows resilance
Resilience
And I'm kinda tired of how you take everything we've been saying, even if it's completely factually based, and saying well maybe this or maybe that, unless there's something you have that directly contradicts what we're saying please stop with that
i wasnt aware that it doesnt fit within the facts. Sorry when i annoyed you in some way
I love that you're getting into the lore don't get me wrong, you just need to trust us when we say something is factual, if it's not I'm open for discussion just don't throw a curveball like maybe they reused assets
Cause that's not the best excuse
And that kind of stuff needs to be confirmed by them before just blowing it off
yah i understand that. I need way more time to get even close to your knowledge about the lore. I just thought that getting new perspectives even if they arent proved (yet) could lead to something.
I get where you're coming from, but throwing out random theories to already set in stone events can get old, just don't do that every time
Now if you have theories on gameplay aspects we haven't considered yet feel free to have a go at it
i could imagine that you already tried with that strategy XD. i will stop then. As i said, i am pretty new at the game itself
I'm glad we're getting new guys in here, your enthusiasm is great, I'm sure you'll hit gold on one of your theories though
who knows? but ur right. I need to research more.
:) thanks for taking the criticism well, I'm sure you'll be great here
sure. no bad thoughts β€
Arpy, tell me if im rushing too hard or if i tell something already known, but are the hunters from quickplay maybe trapped in the other "hell" dimension having an opportunity to get out? because if thats the case, it would explain that the sacrifice for DS has nothing to do with being trapped on the other dimension (you can get tier 1 hunters from quickplay without pigment loss and everything)
i just read some QnA and it said that its possible to visit this other dimension.
that was actually what we went to first when QP came out, we figured out that wellsprings occur throughout the world regularaly though
I have a few theories on that but i've been too lazy to throw them into the grinder
but we do know there's no dimension traversal
one theory is that this is the first wellspring, hence why nobody is prepared to the event that would literally save their life
k just for clearness: maybe i ask questions about the lore, because its clearly impossible for me to get all the information needed (thats why i think a summary book would be great) is that okay?
so if i got something wrong or if i get to crazy with my theories please tell meπ
oh feel free to ask questions, it's great to be able to answer them
i can imagine XD
the only issue I had was with the wild theorizing while discussing topics, other than that there were no issues
are the hunters superior to the normal human beings?
well, they clearly are
but how much?
AAAAARPY!!! this gentleman needs ur help XD
they have been enhanced through rituals believed to be derived from voodoo
other than that they're normal humans
with abilities that could be considered supernatrual
many of them come with the initiation to the AHA
initation rituals conver things like darksight
exactly. even tho there are other hunter organisations like the sinners. but maybe they are using the same rituals
the sinners call it true sight iirc
@late tinsel what do the sinners call darksight?
Spirit Eye.
there it is @noble vine
thanks a lot
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@forest condor @late tinsel i thought abdulaziz called it a spirit eye
Because if thats the case then we dont know what sinners call it, however it wouldn't be too off base for two middle eastern factions to call them the same thing
@forest condor im alive now child. You may rest
@sinful trout he makes no mention of Spirit Eye in the journal.
@noble vine dont get us wrong. Continue to make wild crazy speculation! Makes me incredibly happy seeing people do this and get really into the lore! But when something has been proven as fact it is fact. When we prove something. A writer approves it. So definitely speculate wildly.
I.e the fact that sculptors have one or more "aspects" : unproven.
The game is about one story being retold over and over again: proven
Becausw without people like you speculating wildly, we would never have any stones to throw or things for proof.
@late tinsel and oh. Where do we see them call it spirit eye?
thanks for saying that more diplomatacly var
Np
Iβm combing through the lore to find it. When we do, we need to mark where we did in the doc lol
Definitely
Or a screenshot or quote
@sinful trout I see your point. The issue was that i sometimes leave out information already proven. Its very hard to find all necessary aspects of the lore for new ones. I love to make crazy theories but as @forest condor said, it has to fit with the proven stuff. So if i leave something out, please tell me. I will also learn more about the lore this way
presidents daughter was in fact a duck
when the lousiana event is always the same story being told over and over again, why is there the recruiting system as a continuos thing? Is it just gameplay or has it something hidden?
another question: why do the grunts, the butcher and other creatures have attachments like steel constructions on their body? Is it also work of the sculptour?
In regards to Recruiting that's purely gameplay as much as we know
Metal like cages is probably early attempt to keep afflicted people safe as they got violent in hopes of maybe being able to cure them
None have embedded metal in them aside from maybe butcher
But with Butcher only metalic part he has is the hook the rest are ornaments
That he wears on himself
as much as i recall
And Butcher does show some degree of intelligence
As his head is just a dud.
@noble vine Hope it answers your question
Also his behaviour is that of primitive intelligence
I'd say he might be even smarter than maybe Immolator and defo smarter than spider
i thought too, as he seems to build the lair and his ornaments himself.
Yep
maybe hes aware that he is "injured" and tries to get out of his misery with religion or something like that. The wood ornament on his back could be a cross right?
i
um...
huh.
i got a little crazy with that theory
i guess
The recruient thing is because the aha has existed for many years
so it just mixes the recruitment system of the AHA and mixes it with the story. Makes sense. I am a little disappointed with the fact that it is the same story being told over and over
Well game is in early stage of development
You can't expect it to have everything unwrapped
maybe there is still a liiiiiiittle hope that some things i dont like about the lore could turn out to be wrong or changed but maybe its just me wish-thinking
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Btw the healmet the grunts wear are witches braces which is a punishment for those practiceing voodoo
That's the extent of my knowledge on the subject tho, foxtrap is the guy to ask for anything furthur
@forest condor yeah its the witches bridle
someone posted this in screenshots
do we know about these ? first time im seeing them
that's interesting
Working on transcript now
*** Transcript***
Janvier
T.
Blackburn ( a photo of blackburn)
PUBLIC MEETING
will be held in the
ARDEN PARISH TOWN HALL
this friday on the subject of
INFLUENCA
Janvier T Blackburn, newly appointed Head Parish Doctor and Chairman of the Committee for local Health, will speak to the people about the most curious influenza epidemic that has appeared among us and brought many of our number to an early grave these past few weeks, Information will be provided about how to treat the sick, those not yet infected would do well to shoot a pistol or rifle into the air once daily to purify the air and also to avoid contact with animals, be they domestic or wild. Charles T Franklin, undertaker, will also be present to assist families in need of burial services and care of the dead
FREE ADMISSION
End Transcript
does everyone have access to the character's doc?
or do we need to @ essence for this
@raw marsh Where did you find that just some random person posting it?
TRANSCRIPT
THE ANTI-VENOM
(picture of syringe)
Arthur R. Gut Presents IT WORKS!
a tube and piston by means of which a liquid can be drawn into the tube and then be forcibly expelled, in the case of the antidote shot, the tube is filled with a green liquid antidote that when injected into a human artery, counteracts poisons of several kinds
SINGLE HAND USAGE
--> PREVENT FATALITY FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY
END OF TRANSCRIPT
so the actual town think sits the flue eh interesting
TRANSCRIPT
-LOST-
(picture of hellhound)
--> Cane Corso
ITALIAN MASTIFF
Lots of folks hunt as a team, I dont. part in the reason is that i simply dont trust people, I cant
i dont need a Partner, never did. Tried it. didnt work out. Didnt last long
So i have Bunny. Bunnt is an Italian mastiff with huge ears. youd think that calling a dog Bunny would be insulting. but bunnys not offended. Me and Bunny, we have an agreement. Life is too short to take everything seriously. when things inevitably turn to shit its usually because too many people are too serious. i dont like serious people.
Bunny knows i dont really want to call him a Rabbit, its just my way of poking fun at him, in return. he occasionally wakes me up by biting my left ear
DONT EXPECT NO REWARD FOR BRINGING BACK WHAT IS MINE IN THE FIRST PLACE!
END OF TRANSCRIPT
could the --- be people?
seems southeren enough
@urban burrow you pinged the wrong guy but i just got it from the screenshots chanal π
oh i see
and thanks for saying the screenshot chat
lol my bad thanks for still awnsering
There are more then one stewert i guess lol
why the hell theres so many i have no clue
same thing
@rotund ferry where did you find that screenshot?
same thing different name
yeah, I was just trying to contribute π¦
diving into the game to get a better look
the ears on the hellhounds look fairly simaler
no i mean look at the picture for the cane corso
its LITTERALLY a hellhound
and dont scream used asset on me
because they could have just drawn a picture of an italian mastiff in like 3 secs
instead of drawing a unique picture of a hellhound
thanks
add tjhose to the doc @forest condor . pics and transcripts
ill check out the area around arden anyway
but it would be nice for a specific location
Maybe thats just the dog that the scupltor found and he based the infliction that turns dogs into hellhounds off of that blueprint so to say
so Bunny is a dog that he had instead of a pardner? tips hat
yeah
Yeah it makes alot of sense for the rest as well. WHy all hives look alike and zeds and such because the infliction is based off of a blueprint so to speak
maybe
doesnt explain the chain around all of their necks
oh you mean simaler attributes
i get that is reused asset tho
Ya i mean similiar attributes not exact same carbon copies
They all relatively look and act the same
same pattern stretched to fit many forms
Ya id say chain is just reused asset and gameplay only
possably
I don;t want to write it off completely but... yeah
and the headshot mask
grrr
the curse acts in pretty much the same way as a disease
soreads slowly
and changes based on race
I think the mask was something that people did....They had a tendency to place their religion ontop of what was happening. So i think they were done after the infliction started to set it. maybe trying to heal them or keep them from hurting anyone while they practiced there voodoo rituals to save them
yeup
These are really interesting informations.
So if it's the first time we saw those paper, maybe we "forgot" some other pieces of lore
Because it hasn't been found yet
i think we just saw them o the wall and skipped over them instead of actually looking
theres plenty of those that iv never heard mentiond here
the world is full of secrets and lore bits , we gota explore
We should pay more attention to it now.
Is there any particular reason that conduit trait has a tree - themed picture?
trees are cool
also it could have to do with connecting with the clue and drawing power from it
Like it could be a subtle hint on hw clues wrk
you're getting connected to the clues and drawing power from it
probably somethign to do with that
well before you would connect with the boss so it makes sense
@twilit torrent https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=10&v=kyXDjOamDj8
wat
transcript
Lawson Delta Police
--> $500 REWARD
BAKER DAVIES
Wanted for train robbery, claim jumping, kidnapping, and murder. Known to be heavily armed. can be identified by tattoos visible on both hands and his left wrist. what they depict is unknown but witnesses describe them as "Strange symbols and letters"
The above reward will be paid for his arrest and detention. Previous rewards as regards him are withdrawn.
S.M Henry, Chief of the police board
*** END OF TRANSCRIPT***
seems baker davies might be a hunter
*** TRANSCRIPT***
Winfield repeating arms company presents
WRA HUNTING SAFETY
- Keep extra ammunition in an easy to reach pocket or pouch.
- Remove ammunition when the gun is not in use.
- Before you shoot, be sure its on four feet.
- Teach your children to respect and safely handle your Fire-arms THIS ISNT A TOY JOHNNY
- Only purchase official winfield repeating arms company ammunition and replacement parts for the best quality
EVERY SHOTS A SURE THING
END OF TRANSCRIPT
transcript
The pick of the crop
est.1856
BLANC BRINERY
our boys in the field need to stay fed and stay strong, which is why we only pick the best of the crop at Blanc brinery Do your part, apply for a line position at our brining and canning factory in Lawson
ONLY THE BEST BRINES
END OF TRANSCRIPT
that is very nice, but what is that drawing of baker. it does not look good
do you think its a easter egg of some kind?
TRANSCRIPT
JOHANNES T. STORK
SWEETBELL FLOUR
A wise homemaker uses only the best quality flour, sweetbell flour makes the best quality bread and good bread makes a good table and a good family
Let sweetbell flour be your very first order when you visit your trusted grocer and say plainly SWEETBELL FLOUR not just any flour
MAKE YOUR BREAD BETTER.
FINEST FLOUR
END OF TRANSCRIPT
i need some Sweetbell flour
TRANSCRIPT
est. 1844 DOUBLE A GUNS
BECOME THE HUNTER
this premium crossbow model is double a guns' very first automatic bow in the companys new silent hunter series. please write to the address below to order our catalogue and see all of our great products
Double a guns make the most professional and accurate precision hunting tools
DONT MISS ANOTHER SHOT!
231 railroad ave, New york 14005
United states of america
END OF TRANSCRIPT
rite?
@twilit torrent
...
yeah
what
old way of saying crossbow
oh man
i thought we were actually going to get a automatic ow
bow
perhaps most of the weapons the hunters buy and use come from double A guns
well
that would be the crossbow
everyone else is different
theres specter arms
snk
winfield
what about he posion crossbow and the shotbolt, are those makeshift (in terms of the ammo)
They're "cleverly crafted"
In-game description
Iirc
And that's a lot more stuff to add to the doc
It should probably have its own section
-ingame writings/posters
Some nice finds guys
Can you add those chars to char list?
Else will do it myself tomorrow when I've time
ill do it
β€ THanks
not doing it for you
Don't care, I made a polite request you agreed, I thanked you that's how people interact.
R/totallynotrobots
lol
Lol
nice to see everyone get along. thanks yall for the lore discovery
Didn't scar kill mufasa
But, but, but.......fuck
MORE LORE PLEASE!
@minor peak varrun already transcribed those and more
@minor peak I saw you post pictures on lore adcore, you can find more picture and the one you post here
And they're in the process of being transferred to the doc
It wasn't, cause we're trying to get everyone to be able to do lore
And there's no reason for hardcore rn cause trolling is at an all time low
obligatory duck
Also cause it was a member of the community who posted it, not an hc member.
Oh yeah I forgot you take everything I say seriously
Sorry, it's hard to get inflection in text
And I didn't notice the bold text
My bad
Fml
Lol I just copied what killer told me after I told him it was already posted
If he had taken a minute to look here he would have seen that it's been discussed and everything already
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I dont need a minute to check a lore channel that is filled by trolls that even mods are unable to do their job here.
Besides arpy and some others.
There have been no trolls in forever and a day
Besides, not all check lore channel hence why I posted on hardcore.
So read the productive lore chat and get all the info
I did read, don't tell me what to do.
Cause we got info on what the hellhiunds are
And now we know animals aren't immune
Yes, but the problem with hardcore is, even we can all see it, there are only a few chosen people who can post on it. I underatand why, it's to limit the trolls like you said, but if we want to help you, how do we do that?
What if the dogs lost are the ones in the dog cage?
Cos Hellhounds are most likely coming from Hell, hence their name.
Well, probably. It's only one poster.
And she's an Italian mastiff
Running theory is that the sculpter used her as a template for future hellhounds cause the image used looks suspiciously like a hellhound
So the story team is veriffying the Hellhounds origins?
Ofc, if you look closely to the dog pic on the poster, they are exactly in Hellhound form instead of a normal dog.
Italian mastiffs look like the dog in the image, they're pretty big
I mean, the dog on that poster is exactly like a hellhound with the metal collar around it.
Oh wait I see what you're saying
So having the hellhound image is their way of tying it in
That makes it hard if the lost dogs became hellhounds or not.
Running theory is that they are, it does lead to questions about the sound traps
Hellhounds dont fit well.
I mean.
Hell-Hounds.
Dogs from the Hell.
Besides we got multiple dogs in dog cages as if they got entraped by the villagers because they were... strays?
Hellhound's name has been used to describe regular dogs tho
Dogs in cages are nicknamed as..
Trapped dogs if I am not wrong.
Last time I got killed by them that is.
And with that logic the butcher should be an actual buttcher and spider should be an actual spider
Hellhound is just a name
Spider and Butcher are clearly transformed.
The hellhound is he name use by hunter, and it's logical because they think that the dogs come form the other world, named Hell here. And if it's "create" by the sculptor I don't see the problems with the name. The sculptor also come from hell
It's a name that often indicates where they came from.
Yes it's an indication, but the problems here is it's not an indication from the point of view of the dev, but more from the hunters, like the other parts of the lore
And from what I checked this... pic
Second poster.
Something about antidote or vaccine, whatever.
Third poster.
Something about public meeting at town hall.
I assume the residents knew something was wrong? That there was some form of infection?
So that they tried to vaccine themselves only for it to fail?
Influenza
tidbit?
Small information: tidbit
@random lava
If you could be more useful, could you pin some posts?
Posts by Var'uun Theory Thermit.
Transcripting the posters.
If you could ask me like a normal person and not insinuate I'm not useful then sure
They may know something was off, since even in game you can find some newspaper talking about an infection, or the president telling it was nothing
Look in the doc
So it should be normal for people to do a meeting.
It's already in pinned posts and I've moved some of the transcriptions into there
And I don't think pinning the transcriptions to the channel is a good idea
I was talking about the posters, not the doc. Or...
Too much clutter
Why not, it takes long to scroll. 
Not that long
Respectfully. Long if we keep talking here. π
Again, seconds
Takes longer to find important docs in a bunch of pinned clutter
Especially when new posters will be found and transcribed
We can't fill the entire thing with poster transcriptions
That what Arpy is trying to do, a lore doc
Hum, yeah it's a good idea, having a channel were there only are the important information
We've been getting them into the doc and trying to get them in one place so they're easy to find, easy to find the doc then easy to navigate to them
With the title of Lore where every lore part is placed.
That's what we're doing though
Steam guide?
Doc looks messy.
Less clutter that way
It's a beta doc rn
Gathering then cleaning
Also it's mostly in a specific pattern and fairly neat
Organization has taken a backseat but not that much of a backseat
Nika, I'd ask for the pins to be removed cause it causes too much clutter in the pinned posts, var and I are workng on adding them to the doc, it'll probably be done by the end of today,
That way people don't have to scroll through so many transcriptions to get to all the other documents in the pinned chat
Eh, clean the docs.
Only one of the many posters are in doc for example.
And in messy form which puts me off from reading lol.
Maybe a steam guide lore thread would be great.
Walks in with coffee does 180 and leaves
Okay
Jeez running Nixa thru so much
Yeah, but by default we say to read the pins for new people, and having them read through disconnected lore pieces is kinda eh
am i useful yet
Your always useful

You spelled never wrong. :x
Yes.
@forest condor let me know once you fix your doc.
I would rather read posts here than the doc that is in terrible mess.
Dude, it's in a beta form, and it's not exactly impossible to read, I'll be cleaning it up but in the meantime it's not unreadable, and image references are gonna stay,
@random lava incredibly useful, you're a good mod
Pat pat
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I have to ask you @random lava , is there going to be a monster energy cosmetic coming out for hunters? Is your profile pic indicative of future cosmetics
it is not, and i can't answer that since i can't look into the future π
@minor peak already transcribed all the posters
Just check the doc and quit being so picky
But i also noticed that the other posters werent added to the doc
@forest condor could you get on that after youre off school plz?
But yeah. Nobody really checks lore hardcore anymore, simply because its dead and all the members who actively search for stuff arent in it
@sinful trout I'm eating then jumping on dat
Kk
The doc is in terrible mess.
Make a series of pics and a text under them explaining.
No need to make a lot pages with only 1-2 pics in them for example.
having a pic then texts allows people to correlate text with an image
having a stream of images then a stream of text will confuse people
you understand how a doc works right
Nope.
it'll shift around as more text is added
Is it intentional to be this shit mess?
If so, I will try make a steam guide thread soon.
About lore.
You can always do a doc yourself
once the basic stuff is done space will be added so it's on the same page
Nah, I will do steam page if doc is intended to be in such mess lol.
dude
I am not alking about hunt doc.
could you go a second without shitting on the work i've been doing?
I am talking about Google Doc in general.
you're being really toxic about this
Well, it happens when you demand to remove clutter when in fact the doc provides confusing infos..
again, once 1.0 comes out i'll get it organized on the same page, until then understand that text moves when you type in a document on any site
or any application
I feel like you're playing stupid just so you can crap on the work
Like.. Where is Roots of Darkness if there is only text? Oh waaaait! The picture is on the other page!
Again, if thats intended by GOOGLE Doc.
Fine then.
scroll down
if you can do it anyone can do it
again, it will change once everything is added
Not a professional work but that might be because google doc are not that.. good I guess.
I'm not going to check every bit when adding stuff to make sure it all matches up on the same page, that'll wait till final polishing
Eh, sure.
and dude, are you really shitting on google docs?
They were always shit.. no?
I see.
auto save, compact format, ability to access and share them from anywhere
hence why every doc here is goodle docs
@minor peak if you have an issue with the doc youre welcome to make your own. @forest condor you both agree on the same thing its just getting lost in the mess.
Hes saying post the picture first. Then the text. Allows for easier interpretation. I can easily clean it if youd like
Nah, doc are shit to work on, a steam guide thread would be great.
he's saying that since the text and picture are on different pages it's shit, that's something that can and will be fixed during the polishing phases
it involves me pressing enter a few times but I don't want to do it every time something is added
sigh
You actually don't need to press enter few times, ctrl + enter give you a page break to go to the next page. Same for all the doc editor.
And yeah The problems Arpy encounter is some casual problems from docs editor and not only Google. Google docs is pretty smooth and easier to use than Microsoft one or open office.
The Steam guide is a good thing, but since it's a web format and not a docs format, the presentation is different. Is doc is here to simulate a book, or some sort of things who can be print and be separate in page. I think if you do the same with the steam guide, it'll also be a mess.
Steam guide are like blogs, or forum post, you can format it with HTML (I think, never create one)
there @minor peak feel free to take a look. its been cleaned
@random lava can you pin the beastiary plz β€
I would pin it. But I don't have the power 
@sinful trout Check pinned π
i love you
You're welcome
@random lava youre everywhere all the time 10/10 best mod
Awwww


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Maq kills all Maq is best hunter
Birdo only kills butcher
Birdo is worse hunter
I should probably start getting good sleep so this doesn't happen again
@random lava are you able to add emojis?
Asking for a friend
On this discord? I'm not sure. I can't on my phone anyway sorry
Lol okay
Maqlita
Maqlita battle angel
@main quail yoive become a legend here. Youre now forced to get into the lore
Stay a while and listen
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@sinful trout
time for me to become the new LORE MASTER
(not assistant to the lore master)
heck
have we reached a consensus on weather or not this is a posession?
Posession?
I must have missed this discussion
Overview? Plz? Maybe? So i dont have to scroll?
ah
Beastiary has been updated for an easier read with pictures more in line
I just got into this game after playing Deadwood. I'm seeing lots of parallels in the art direction which is πππ
yeah
it seems fun thogh
its... something
Oh?
You dont mean darkwood do you?
I have that game on my wishlist bc it looks dope
more like fortwood
Vitam impendere vero
@worn yoke you should learn some of the lore if you like the art. Its really interesting
Lots of stuff found, lots of stuff to uncover
Darkwood* yes, sorry, I can never the name lmao. (probably on account of it being generic as all hell)
And where do I read more about the lore to either game?
Darkwood or The Hunt (which also has a totally generic name)
CHECK THE PINNED POSTS @worn yoke
caps
theres also a wiki, a fandom, and the hunt showdown site!
@stiff vector nonono continue
come back
I SAW YOU TYPING
CANT HIDE FROM ME
less caps π
yeah
That Lore Q&A is the most useless doc to have ever been written, I think.
Q; Question!?!?!? A: Maybe. We'll reveal later.
One of the few direct answers is "why are the extraction carriages armored?" "To be safe" lmao
I like how the sparks receiver stamp has Bridgeport Connecticut, whereas the original sharps rifles were manufactured in Hartford Connecticut
Wiki and fanbom? They are shit and barely anyone edits.
@worn yoke there are a lot of good answers in there as well,
Also the answer about the armored extractions actually does help us get off that topic and move on, it's all about the little things
@worn yoke i agree. They hate giving answers. @minor peak the fandom and wiki are there for people who dont want to dive into the game for that snall bit of info. A monkey could see that
Can confirm, showed to a monkey and he immediately went to lousiana to become a hunter
[monkey noises]
[crow noises]
[duck noises]
Yo idk of anyone here is religious and this is hella off topic but send some prayers towards New Zeland if you got time
still cant believe that this discusting rat actually FILMED his attack
A bit wrong channel no? #off-topic Maybe?
Essence, I'm asking people to pray for people who were murdered. This can be off topic for a second
well hes right tho its not hunt related, as important as it is
And we weren't talking about lore at the time, a little "hey guys, even if you can't help please pray" won't hurt anything.
anyone else feel like the immolator is out of place in hunt?
A bit
its like they just added an npc for the sake of adding another npc
feel like there's enough annoying mobs in this game already
oh wait I thought you meant the lore @severe relic
it's perfectly home in hunt
it just makes the lore akward as heck
It feels like the immolator should have been a boss and not just a rando npc you can bump into
he's easy to get rid of, also this is a place for lore, normally. this probably belongs in off-topic
Does the bug motif still make sense or was it debunked?
the immolator doesn't seem to have any bug related attributes and he doesn't have the same rotting aspect as grunts
I'd say yeah Immolator feels a bit out of place world wise / what we have seen so far.
But again we have only seen a fracture so while I think @severe relic @amber harbor Have a point
I think it's too early to say if it's more of a nuisance ham-fisted in or 1st of something new
maybe it's made by the other entities
@amber harbor thats possible. But remember the devs said the bug thing wasnt entirely true as well
The bug thing being the idea that the sculpter has aspects to it
Yep which is not confirmed nor debunked. Heavy plausibility implications (Until Immolator) but no clear answer yet
The initial foundation of it is classical writing.
In writing everything has traits / trademarks as no character or being that is indistinguishable from any other is not worth writing
For a swamp, Fire zoms or even fire at all, is not really a good fit. Why no alligators? Why no witch doctor.
immolator and butcher seem to be made by a different entity though. as they both rely heavily on fire.
both are immune to it as well
That would be strange if the Nico/Winkler theroy holds water
Also @sinful trout remember when you asked me to check the reveal trailer to see where the butcher is? It was an early version of modanna
The windows are slightly different but the paino is in the same place
Also, if the butcher is made by a different entitiy then Meatheads are made by the same entity, and that wouldn't make sense seeing as Meatheads don't try to kill everything like the immolator does, also they're not immune to fire
The butcher is just a really big (and seemingly more intelligent) Meathead. His leeches are white and inside him
also the butcher seems to wield the fire.
the immolator is a force of fire
Exactly
Aspects have already been said to be not completely accurate
But at the very least butcher is definitely made by the same entity as the rest (excluding immolater until we know more)
Although doesn't the immolater follow the decay aspect as well?
You could say so but... He looks more like someone who was burned more closer to a tortured soul (Ref:Doom) than an undead like grunts, hives etc.
And yes aspects aren't entirely accurate but one way or another rest of the cast sorta falls into it aside from spider
Since Spider isn't insect
And insects are 100% Reoccurring theme
So yeah some stuff doesn't seem to add up
Meatheads, armored, grunts
Those don't have insects unless you count the Reed diary
But he might have been hallucinating
or if you have watched constantine it could be like that
And above all he's probably the most unreliable narrator
a physical manifestation of a demons being or power
@forest condor Armored has insect aspect
no but then again i wasnt saying they were i was just giving an example of how the insects might tie in
The armor of the armored is the same material hives are made of
You can see it all over for example healing water church
And Blanch
Grunts follow aspect of death and decay
Hive follows Death, Decay, Insects
But they're not insects, having a chitinous armor doesn't make it the same as a hive
Armored follow Insects, Death (They look like a bloater if you look at their skin)
Hive isn't insect either
Yes it is,
But she is a host
But it follows the idea of it
It's far fetched to say Hive is an insect
If you've a parasitic worm in your skin does it make you a parasitic worm?
I get what you're saying
The hive seems to be controlling the insects to some degree though
Seeing as killing her disperses the bugs
Armored have the chitin from insects, Hive is a host. common denominator being that both are in symbiosis with insects
While Hive controls and attacks with insects who also protect her.
Same moth like insects commonly referred seem to be making giant nests around Bayou
Evidence being environment
So if they are making huge hives and infesting hosts like hive.
Armored origin wise could fairly plausibly be a drowned corpse that insects tried to nest in.
Chitin doesn't automatically equal insect though
Chitin comes from inscts
maybe hive is controlled by an insect like a parasite that takes over the host
Alright,
No other existing creature makes hives of that material
No mammal
Fish or bird
Only insects do
And it's 1:1
The armoured seems to be specifically armored though. Protection on it's legs, arms, and hrad
Yeah and armored works like a guardian
The meatshield
So obviously if it was to be symbiotically co-existing with something
If the creature could beef it up it would
If you put a man at the front gate and expect to be attacked, would you not rather give them a weapon or armor so they can guard better?
Best armored screenshot I've (Bug Report Test) not very easy to see it's far more obvious in the shoulders
Oh yeah
what if the money you pay for hunters is just to cover the initiation/protection rituals?
just putting it out there
doubtful
Just read what was said today.
Immolator feel different from the other foes, but it doesn't bother me to much in the universe. Why? Because we don't know what sculptor(s) is (are). We don't know how "hell" work.
We do know that a sculptor is in play in the bayou, and it's most likely that the monster here are made by him. There all seem to be modify adding some sort of insects components. And we know that the spider is also a human with chitins parts. so could be the same. The only one I wonder is the water devil. Also like some people said, the immolator could be from another sculptor, or just another entity without name yet. In the QnA the devs said there are other entity in play
And big one too
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Armoreds are exactly like Grunts except an armor mutated around them.
Which slows them down and makes them strong.
It's chitin like
they should add mosquito bomb for mild irritation
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chitin are spooky in skyrim
Is J Hayward an actual character or was he used just to promote the game?
J hayward was the main charecter in horrors of guilded age. he has an article of lore written about him but devs have confirmed we arent getting anymore solely on the reason that j haywards mentioning in showdown was a nod at the austin team thanking them for their efforts, as guilded age was austins development and was scrapped and eventually given to the frankfurt team to revamp
thanks
but he's still a badass
hopefully
that'll probably get released when they add female hunters
and I hope they do that right
Just, hey there are hunters but women,
And here's some lore on a hunter who is John's daughter
And more world building
Itβd be enough just to have a Huff welcome Miss Hunter to the AHA in a simple letter tbh.
βHereβs a Caldwell conversion, itβs the least we could do. Good luck.β
@main quail a mosquito bomb would be a pleasant surprise, if my experiences in the deep South are any indicator.
Fuck mosquitos.
Ive always wanted to know more lore about hunt showdown? can anyone just give me like a little summary to catch me up to speed?
I know it started with an outbreak of a disease of some sort right?
@sweet rapids check pinned posts for a quick crash course.
What does that
translate to?
AHA π
Aha = American Hunter Association
hey are grunts undead or are they still alive
like do the people die then reanimate as a grunt
also where do the hellhounds come from, are they from the infection and did they die and reanimate because of the infection
@slim hatch For you. ^^ π
About origin of Hellhounds can't say for sure but if we take into account the rules we can observe they are probably former guard-dogs.
In regards to Grunts while we know that one can recover from affliction if we take into consideration their physical state and deterioration those are beyond saving.
so now does the infection kill someone like a zombie infection?
like say TWD for instance
this has honestly made me curious for a time
cuz i mean the grunts are all pretty fucked up
but then some aren't
If I am not wrong, people got infected and then mutated into monsters, some of them in different forms (armored, immolator). Whoever didnt die by infection were soon massacred by the rampaging monsters.
Now, if they got killed when they got mutated.. /shrug
in the Hunt website that were journals of a doctor and if im not wrong he was turning into a grunt while he was writing
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sorry i read it wrong of what you said
so was that guy in the journals turning then?
i call it turning cuz idk what else to cal it
He was clearly affected by sculptor's influence but we have no idea what he turned into
Initially we thought he was the spider but we got that one debunked by writers.
so do we know how it chooses who to afflict?
One thing is sure, they are dead. Not alive. Whatever. :c
No
so as far as we know it's random
Read pinned posts more than enough information there
when i find time ill have to look through them all
the lore in this game has always been wicked cool to me but i haven't had team to read any of it
time*
I suggest reading through QnA's , Character lists
thank you for your answers btw ^-^
That's where majority of info comes from
The newer entries I'd say need more work
But transcripts in them
Are very nice when it comes to world building
whoever did the writing did a good job imo
There is a team
But I suspect the direction of lore is going to change.
But that's information I think I should not talk about publicly unless I want to get my ass banned
oof
also i had to ask stuff here but now i see it was in the hardcore discussion, i just can't talk there lol
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Well hardcore will be gone if experiment fails....
In regards to access in the past we would nominate people but now it's basically ask for entry if you want... We had a little bit of an 'inner conflict' among our ranks.
Meh w/e we served our purpose until now.
thanks again for the answers ^-^
No worries.
Feel free to ask, if we have an answer will answer if not then we will just say "Not enough information"
You can basically use @ Lore hardcore tag to see if anyone is available instead of checking who is there
Were there any updates regarding the tier 3 hunter appearances? The tattoos and the rings they all seem to have
They were there before
They all have burns and scars. And they probably come from the usage of the dark sight
@autumn shuttle our best lead on hellhound's is that theyre based off Italian mastiffs
@weak elbow lots of the physical damage comes from combat, the marks from dark sight are most notably seen in the black teir threes with the patches of discolored skin
yea i know
@autumn shuttle i would reccomend checking out the entry in the beastiary about hellhounds. It helps to understand what they are and adds a perspective on how they COULD have come to be
no i wasn't the one curious about the hellhounds someone was trynna say they were wolves and then we were telling them it's italian mastiffs and then it got into a conversation about dead and undead lol
hahaha okay. just wanted to throw it out there
BOOK OF MONSTERS IS FINALLY COMING PEOPLE!
g-g-guys there is a new BOSS announced!!
Is the new boss Reed himself?
@full fog and @noble vine wait what
check the announcements
poor arpy. Im sure he will have to spend some nights on fitting it into the lore XD
The book of monsters is a good news. Some new stuff to chew
This is gonna be good
mr. arpy take it awayπ
I feel like you're mocking me...:(
so is the book of monsters like the necrnomicon or something different
the book of monsters will basically override everything that Var wrote in the beastiary :P.
it's a book deatiling some lore about the monsters in the game
didnt mean to mock you if you were serious with that π¦
Reed is not boss of anything.
Ahh Felix, it's cool, I hate that I can't tell tone over text most of the time. Makes telling jokes annoying. Youre good.
And Greece. The Reed thing was a joke, that one was obvious
Yeah when book of monsters come out ill update everything in the beastiary so we have an offline version. Each monster will basically have its own page XD
aaarg i cant wait!!
And it was confirmed that Roche isn't Butcher
Still holding out for the Winkler Nico theory
Some of the facts match up
Butcher is first seen at modanna in the reveal trailer. And the trading card has modanna in the image
@slim hatch where was it confirmed that? I'd like to be able to quote it for somebody
@forest condor Well first hunt trailer implies butcher is at Madonna and someone did mention that it seems to be there donβt quote me on that tho.
@forest condor is roche not butcher I assumed he was?
@silver fox Roche was debunked in QnA
While all text essentially screams itβs him QnA answer was clear NO
It specifically says that the butcher is in lore but the whole answer is complicated IIRC.
Which rules out him because he has a whole text on him and having him as the butcher wouldn't be complicated at all
IIRC?
If I recall correctly
ah
Lol
You remember correctly, ye.
Deus ye vault et
Vitam Impendere Vero, Hunter. Iβm excited to finally get my hands on some monster lore.
Hell yeah
So what do you guys think the new boss is?
I mean, we wont know for shure, but the game has 3 types of dammage, bleeding poison and fire, so my guess is that the boss will have something to do with bleeding
its all a theory but a superpower armor with concertena wire around his body
an angry little woman with a pair of rusty scissors
Boss 3 is REEEEED
Boss 3 is a Deus vault !!!
boss 3 is just a lake with 17 water devils and the bounty is in the center of the lake
And you can't kill the water devils
actually the next boss is yourself dealing with the ptsd of killing all those hunters
the more hunters you killed before the harder it is to cope with the idea
the next boss is 100 concertinas thrown into a single area and you gotta clear it out
those are my ideas atleast
the next boss is the PTSD from killing the hunters and traveling through hell and back, literally. you're your worst enemy
the next boss is a compound filled with 25-35 immolators
and throw in a couple of meatheads
yeah, we havn't fully delved into the implications of hunter gear but have noted the bones some hunters wear
and because the ducks are an old meme that we'd be best not to bring up
i think some of the details are super cool if i actually look at them
oh hell yeah
although i still find it strange when things spawn in the outhouses
The hunters' area of operations has the literal hell seeping into it so a bunch of creepy items scattered out of place only seems fitting.
All the symbolism is what got me interested in the game in the first place. It feels like something completely ordinary in the game itself, which I am particularly fond of. The extraordinary being ordinary. Still waiting for the tarot as a gameplay/progression expansion.
please let them be a spooky skeleton
for a voodoo-themed game there's a shortage of bones in the bayou
The hunters carry bones for rituals on their person, normally teor two or three
ohno that's unedited footage of me
<@&357256267087085568> I'm like 80% sure he ain't aloud to do that^^^
Please keep this channel Lore related
@random storm during a drought of lore a major contributer posting a meme of a possible boss isnt a good excuse to contact a moderater thanks for helping get rid of ad boye
@forest condor I think Fluffy was talking about the guys who post an advertising message. Which was deleted.
The foxtrap vid was deleted so idk @languid bough
And I checked for the advertising guy in this chat and he didn't post here but I could be wrong
Oh ok. And I saw the message from the ad guy, and I remember it was here. But I could be wrong too since the message is not here anymore and wasn't here in the first place x)
Hm? Did I post a video?
@languid bough you're probably right, sorry @random storm
@random storm settle the debate! Were you referring to an ad?!?
What a narc
This hunter is going to live long.
The Book of Monsters is exactly something I was waiting for.
Oh alright, my bad for jumping to conclusions, that WAS mod worthy, thank you
Its is understandable I am new so
What does 'Monstrorvm' mean?
Idk
sorry guys but what is a 2late4sleep link?
i hope it wasnt an issue that i posted a meme on this channel...
@noble vine he was advertising a game marketplace
ooh okay. Well thats actually not cool
True dat
@amber harbor Monstrorum in latin means Monsters in english
(It's an u and not a v because of Latins letters)
That makes sense
@amber harbor yeah man starts sweating thats rookie knowledge uncomfortable chuckle everyone knows that right?
Right?
sweater spaghetti
moms vomit
Wait wat
Looks like ubisoft is the new boss
It look like a male version of the hive.
But it also doesn't look like human, just a shape since it take form when bugs form a group of....
.... horrible things
I'm wondering if you need to damage a hive-like growth instead of the bug-person to kill the boss
if so, the growth should be a moving target
I think it will be more like the thing possess a core than can be damage, and the core will be available when the monster is in human form. Hoterwise he will move in bug mode and be very hard/impossible to damage
Like a teleporting abality using the bugs
In case you weren't scared by the spider, the new boss is a house infestation
can of raid is the new weapon
Hey look! Thats my basement!
Seriosuly though this might be made from the same sculptor that made the spider
It's possible. We will see using the new book of monster
Yeah. I just really dont like how lore seems to have changed direction. Old bosses were like fleshy monster things... This is magicky bugs
There was a reason to things with old bosses
Now its just like "its magic dont worry about it"
The immolator is still a litle fleshy. Yeah fire is a bit hod, but not more than oil sweat like butcher. The question I have about this new boss is how do he control the bugs? Is it a hive mind ability like hive and meathead? If so were is the Core controlling it? And why does it seem a bit more precise than the hive? Like the bug can take human shape, a crolling in saperate direction
Maybe i'm too new and see the difference between the old and new lore
Probably hive mind
reminder the game already has magic

