#lore-discussion

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late tinsel
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I think it’s safe to assume so, yes.

forest condor
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Cool cause that's an interesting thing not mentioned in the text on the website, if it ever gets an edit it should be put in there

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That the hunter needs to say close to keep the connection

late tinsel
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So I was thinking about that. When we close the last rift, it DOES close. There’s nothing particularly special, nor is there a wild projection of power that continually flows out of it. I COULD be reading too much into it, but maybe when that last rift is closed, we draw out the remainder of the WS before it closes and attach it to our hunter. After that, it’s brought into our world and attached to the hunter that drew it out in the closing ritual or the hunter that kills him. It’s bound to the rift in some manner, but since it closes like the others, maybe it’s actually been extracted.

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We never really see the WS physically, outside of the victory animation that seems to come from within the hunter.

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As of right now, I’m thinking the process looks something like this.

-Close 3 rifts to concentrate the WS’s power to one rift.
-Extract the WS and close the last rift. This also prevents anything else from sneaking through the rift, so it makes sense to close it after you have the WS.
-Though you carry the WS, you must absorb it over time.
-Salvation.

forest condor
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Hmmm...

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One theory could be that closing the rifts links you as a conduit of the wellspring's and you use that to extract it

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Basically let it flow through you

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Or it could be an animation thing and they just didn't want to code in a final Animation for when you close it

late tinsel
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The reason it doesn’t vanish entirely when the WS carrier dies could be because the rift is closed and it might need a host to exist in our dimension. Maybe the reason it jumps from hunter to hunter is the closing ritual contains it to that area, which is why you must remain in the area and why it doesn’t just disappear when you die.

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Just some speculation.

forest condor
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Hmm, a sort of ritual makes sense

late tinsel
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Ah, you’re right. The conduit trait lends some credit to your point.

forest condor
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Simaler to the banish ritual

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I didn't even consider that trait, (even with my word choice) but that is a good point

late tinsel
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Well the trait itself implies that rifts can have some kind of interaction and impact on hunters outside of the cost of being able to close them. It may be possible the nature of the WS allows a hunter to act as its conduit naturally.

forest condor
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Like a reverse clue, open a clue and get health, close a rifts and get power

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Although there might be a different way and the rifts animation just didn't change

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But conduit makes more sense

late tinsel
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I had the same thought. That’s why I prefaced my speculation by saying I could be looking too much at an early access game mode for my info lol It’s subject to change I’m sure, but that’s all I have to work with crafting theory on it atm.

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I think we’re on the same page though.

forest condor
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Yeah, and it while the game may be in early the lore isn't, and some of the lore will probably become clearer with the addition of new mechanics

late tinsel
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Fingers crossed. Hopefully we’ll see more soon. I’m trying to keep from going too far out in speculation until we do, but I think you pointed out some interesting details I hadn’t considered on how hunters interact with rifts.

clever spindle
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Any videos/reads you guys recomend on hunt's lore/setting

late tinsel
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@clever spindle check the pinned post over in the hardcore lore for most of the confirmed stuff. I haven’t watched enough videos to recommend anything yet.

forest condor
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Check out the main site, all you need is there

forest condor
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@clever spindle

clever spindle
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Got home from work thanks guys gonna have some relaxation now with some good ol' lore

forest condor
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enjoy!

edgy silo
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ducks

forest condor
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We got a live one chief, fine lets tackle ducks, they're there as eyes for the shaper and a way to boobytrap the way to the bosses

sinful trout
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We've lost them... @slim hatch

forest condor
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I refuse to talk about ducks anymore

sterile sonnet
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yo guys what happend to Faish ?

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havent seen him post much in a while

slim hatch
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He is no longer on discord not sure why but for some reason either people were tagging him too much, he needs to focus on the books or that minor tint of guilt i feel in my heart is there for a reason.

rotund ferry
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does anyone have a link to a source to what everyone is talking about because i have no clue what people are talking about

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like a word document that has a summaryhype

plush kindle
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Nobody give him any info!

rotund ferry
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stop blowing my cover

mossy oracle
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@rotund ferry hey come over, my webcam is uncovered 😉

rotund ferry
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We know ainsley

stiff vector
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Let's keep it appropriate. 😃

rotund ferry
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The questions is still upImDeadInside

stiff vector
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What exactly you want to know all? Everything about the lore is in the pinned messages here

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Or what name you wanted to know?

plush kindle
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FabFab

stiff vector
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An unimportant, not lore related person.

plush kindle
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He said, lying through his teeth

rotund ferry
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Well,what we so far have been given in terms of source of monsters,info on hunters

stiff vector
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There is a list of named hunters that are mentioned in the lore if that is what you want.
The list is in the pined messages

rotund ferry
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For instance, who is Dr. Reed

sinful trout
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That

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Is the golden question

stiff vector
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Ok, there I can't tell you much. I think he is some kind of the creator of what happens in hunt. But don't take me there. I don't know a lot about the lore.
Ok, @sinful trout can help you more. 😃

sinful trout
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Who is Dr reed. For now he's simply a doctor who went mad

rotund ferry
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how do we know this

sinful trout
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But some speculate he transformed into something more. What exactly more we don't know. We know for certain he did not transform into the spider. As example spider has 2 human legs where it's confirmed that reed cut off his leg.

rotund ferry
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Was the spider not made up of mulitple faces previously

sinful trout
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No. There is one singular face in the spider. But we know there is more to it there is far too much on the spider to be considered humanaterial

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Of course I'm always down to jump in a group chat to answer all your questions

rotund ferry
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Is it a problem to talk on this? or is it preferable

sinful trout
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How do you mean?

plush kindle
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I mean talking is much easier than typing

sinful trout
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6

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^

rotund ferry
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hmmmm

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cant blow my cover so maybe

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In the doctors notes his language transitionsed into something else

sinful trout
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its an anagram

rotund ferry
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Dsrow no het gepa a a

sinful trout
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for whayt i believe to be (if i remember correctly) words on the page

plush kindle
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I can never undertand how people decypher anagrams

sinful trout
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"i feel as if they try to take root. words on the page (possible a h a

rotund ferry
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so wait what does it translate to

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ah

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So he still had the mental capacity to create an anagram

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why tho

sinful trout
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sort of

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its not exactly like he was trying to speak in anagrams

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its as if im here. when i get excited i make many typos. more so when im sick os my wrods usaualy ned up klie thsi

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(as my words usually end up like this)

rotund ferry
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ok i see

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seems a little too sudden for that

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Also the spider has been suspected to be him,but there were 2 legs and he cut his off

sinful trout
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its possible reed was possessed by something and he could only really break through for a simple moment but it was not without a struggle. its possible reed was trying to tell this to the aha through some sort of code. "i feel as if they try to take root" and the last part "words on the page a a" could have been him actually trying to signify to the aha (this isnt me i dont know whats happening but something has taken root inside me,"

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exactly. its also been confirmed by the lore writer for hunt showdown

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but here is the thing about hunt lore that makes it unique to any other lore type.

rotund ferry
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yes?

sinful trout
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its all perspective wise. i.e there was only one butcher. one spider. each hunt is actually the same story being told by a different person

rotund ferry
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has that been confirmed

sinful trout
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so what one person says. it could be true. or it could be his twisted perception of the idea. and yes. it has

rotund ferry
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is the hunt the only time people have entered the area since the plague or something

sinful trout
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yeah. the hunt of stillwater bayou is an event of which hunters made first contact with the event.

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why everyone starts all at once. ill give you a hint (not everything is lore related. its a game mechanic)

rotund ferry
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how do we know that everyone failed and a second wave was sent

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do not know

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how would the hunters know that there is a spider to look for or a butcher

sinful trout
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its not in waves. hunters are sent for a contract and they are sent constantly until the contract has been fufilled

rotund ferry
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why is it then only 10 at a time

sinful trout
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game mechanic

rotund ferry
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why could people not join a game yet

sinful trout
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no lore related.

rotund ferry
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ok

sinful trout
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its basically to keep the games less crowded

rotund ferry
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in the doctors diarys he says that he looks at the medicine that he gives

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that is when he goes into madness

sinful trout
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not exactly

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well.

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thats the first sign of infection yes

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but hes been administering that medicine for what seems to be a long time. why would it just start now

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the first sign of him becoming infected is the day after he performed an autopsy

rotund ferry
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how did he get this medicine

sinful trout
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he made it

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REED & CO is the brand name

rotund ferry
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so he was suprised at the medicine he made

sinful trout
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we can only assime its the same medicint

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look at the photo

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notice the farthest point that the spill reached? its the EXACT shape of an armoureds big arm

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and under that there is barbed insect legs of some sort

rotund ferry
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has this photo been confirmed as lore

sinful trout
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its from the hunt showdown website under lore... so id assume so

rotund ferry
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Could it not be that people in that area have something in them that caused them to become infected via contact or something

sinful trout
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how the cutrse began to infect people isnt known. we dont know how it started, but i believe the trials of dr reed are the closest thing we have documented to the beginning

rotund ferry
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when he first started documenting in his diary how many days was it into the infection

sinful trout
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all we know is that its early.

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the trials of reed have actually given us a lot of lore. for example when the sickness takes over then the infected lose all organs within the first 2 days and it is replaced by moths.

rotund ferry
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moths 100 not the source of it

sinful trout
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we know the disease COULD be transmitted by moths. we already know bloodborne contact is enough as well

rotund ferry
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so far the hunters are not affected meaning

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it must be something in the community

sinful trout
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define affected

rotund ferry
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they are hit by zombies but are gucci

sinful trout
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then yes, they are not affected for some reason. its also possible that everyone in the area of stilwater was infected. they just didnt know it yet

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almost like a disease that was silent until another compound came into effect

rotund ferry
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yeah....

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in the lore there was a person who went into the swamp 99 times

sinful trout
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John hayward H.

rotund ferry
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how does that fit with the contract different perspective

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like only 1 butcher

sinful trout
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theres more than just one event

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the aha didnt just create itself for a one time issue. theres been events in 1885 theres been some before that and i think it was another in 1892 (not sure about that one)

rotund ferry
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what is the aha again?

sinful trout
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theres been poultergeists, djinns, spiders and butchers as far as were aware.

rotund ferry
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the spider has been possessed?

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person as the spider*

sinful trout
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we believe the spider was made from an entity we call the sculptor

rotund ferry
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and you think that reed may be the sculptor

sinful trout
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no

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i do not

rotund ferry
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i bet the next boss is a scorpion

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why not

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?

sinful trout
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because we have no info on the sculptor

rotund ferry
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did the sculptor also make the meat heads?

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or no headed boss's

sinful trout
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i think so yes

rotund ferry
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has the water demon contributed to the lore yet?

sinful trout
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not yet

rotund ferry
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also last q what are true deck cards

sinful trout
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we dont know a whole lot about them

rotund ferry
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atleast what are cards

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as in deck cards

sinful trout
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theyre tarot cards with special properties

rotund ferry
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tarot?

sinful trout
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yeah, fortune telling cards

rotund ferry
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ok

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wew

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Thank you for your time

sinful trout
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ofc 😃 anytime

rotund ferry
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anything major that I have missed?

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Also interesting that the doctor mentions the aha even though it would have not existed or they would not have known about it

sinful trout
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as i said

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thats purely speculation

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it could be he was trying to say anna or always

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we dont know what he was trying to say

rotund ferry
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ok

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thanks man

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now time for the actual game Thunk

forest condor
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Btw a quick correction for @sinful trout, and @rotund ferry, the 10 hunters thing has been mentioned in lore documents, "ten Hunters total: marks scored in their flesh, readying firearms, thirsty for blood."

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So there was lore written onto the game emchanic, perhaps the contract was only sent to ten hunters

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hmmm, reading up on the texts I've noticed this as well, "You mark off Alice Farm as having harbored nothing more than a trace of your target." could it be that the targets move through the map and leave behind those clues? And the clue at every compound thing is a game mechanic?

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"It was lucky that this time there was only one target" another indication that these contracts are fufilled regularaly and there are more bosses than just these two

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also, watching the devil in the churchyard trailer and noticed these words in it, has this been discussed yet?

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looks like it could be lyrics, but in a different language

inland flicker
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That is Uganda langueage

stiff vector
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I can do it.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

forest condor
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Sure, that's be great

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but it's probably just lyrics

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so if it's that then don't waste too much time

stiff vector
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And here picture where every letter fits to the symbol. (I hope the letters are in the same order as the symbols)

forest condor
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it should be, or else it's just letters in random position to other "letters'

stiff vector
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'Moun Ki Regr Nan Siel La'
I think it is that. But some of the symbols are pretty similar. I try playing around with the lightning and shadows to get maybe a few better symbols.

rotund ferry
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It means people in the salt

sinful trout
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@forest condor @stiff vector this has been decided by fajeth, our resident voynich translator

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Decoded*

rotund ferry
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Lol yeah it Haitian creole it means that

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Wait a second

stiff vector
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This: 'moun ki regr nan siel' means in english: 'people regret in the soul'

sinful trout
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@forest condor and as for the correction. oh yeah. i knew that but for some reason i forgot it. man i need a refresher on all the web stuff. i used to know it all by heart

rotund ferry
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@stiff vector where did the La come from

stiff vector
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Oh, yeah. I was wrong. It really means what you say. The La was right.

rotund ferry
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Ah ok

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I'm thunjing

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So there is fresh water in the bayou, it not salty, I don't know how common salt was back in the day but I don't think in the 1800 it was common because if trade routes.

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Salt is also associated with fighting demons or cleansing them

sinful trout
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Fajeth | Steven08/16/2018
Hey guys, thanks for the invite.

Let me explain what I did.
I created a full Voynich alphabet on the huntshowdown.com website. I just used their Voynich class.
(<p class="voynich">Text appears in Voynich letters</p>)
After that I snipped the 9 textparts from the Devil in the Churchyard video. I roughly translated the first 2 and ran those lines
through google.
They matched with Revelation 12:12 in Haitian Creole. I copied the whole 12:12 onto the website, used the Voynich class again and matched them with the remaining 7 video textsnippets. They all fit perfectly.

Revelation 12:12 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+12%3A12&version=KJV)
Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.
Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.(edited)

Bible Gateway
Bible Gateway passage: Revelation 12:12 - King James Version
Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Rooftop Korean08/16/2018
i fucking love you

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me and rooftop dont agree on much. but when we both saw this we shared a love for fajeth

rotund ferry
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Looking at that

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The plague must only be for a short while because it says the devil does not have long

late tinsel
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Salt in the 19th & early 20th century was a major commodity, to answer your question. Not as common as or widely traded as it is today, but it’s likely you could buy it from a general store near a major coastal town like New Orleans.

forest condor
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I think the lettering and words are more of a connection than a literal transaltion of the events that happened

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and reading what I just put I realise i described how writing works

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also A few put it down to just being something in the water… foreboding of a way the curse can be transfered!?!?!!?

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Exerpt from The History of Healing-Waters church

forest condor
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And by curse I mean dieses

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disease Plague/afdfliction

late tinsel
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Well that’s something that’s had me thinking since I first started posting here. How does the disease function? Is it entirely coincidental, a plague that popped up the Sculptor was able to capitalize on? Or is it a disease that the Sculptor created? Could it be less of a disease and more of a supernatural corruption that wears down the mind as a prelude to possession instead?

Waterborne pathogens can spread very quickly, particularly if major fresh water sources are contaminated- potentially infecting the animals that drink from it as well. My first thought was to note the hellhounds and water devils, but horses and chickens are noticeably unaffected.

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It seems to me that the hellhounds and grunts are more along the lines of supernatural possessions/reanimation.

slim hatch
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It’s not a disease

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It has symptoms but isn’t one

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It’s affliction

rotund ferry
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Ok so I was interested in how the moths are in the subjects internal organs area. It got me thinking.

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This was set in the louisiana bayou correct me if I am wrong

slim hatch
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Yes

rotund ferry
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I did some researching and found out that there is a moth (calyptra) that is known as the vampire moth. It's origins come from southern Europe and has been moving up into northern Europe. If a few of the moths landed in France or around there, they could have been transported to america

slim hatch
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Read pinned posts

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Specifically 1sr QnA

rotund ferry
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It also got me thinking that the doctor fell sick when he opened the body. What if a moth had bitten him and transferred the sickness

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Louisiana was originally supposed to be French because of the French helping Americans get their independence

slim hatch
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Did you read pinned posts?

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@rotund ferry Sorry man I’m asking since you ask a lot but some answers are in the pins.

rotund ferry
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Sorry, what am I missing

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Oh ok I thought it contraindicated my theory

slim hatch
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Nah i just say read all pinned posts first

rotund ferry
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Anyways, so also if the moths became mutated in some way with flies of the swamp, there are flies that lay eggs in a human. The moths would be a very easy of spreading the plague. It could have also been mutates that the larva went through the bloodstream and landed in the stomach. Then they could feed on the inside for sustenance and grow into cacoons in a rapid rate.

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Also one of the symptoms of the moth biting someone is a rash. It could explain why hunters have rash's here and there but are not affected by the sickness

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Sores belt my arms. The flesh crawls and bleeds. A moth flutters at my ear.

sick zodiac
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Is the new audio tearing a part of the lore? like hell is coming through your headphones?

slim hatch
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Ha ha ha door is that way....

sick zodiac
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But to envoke real hell and in turn rage how else would they achieve this

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?

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I mean hats off Crytek you nailed it on this one

patent canopy
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how does the spider become the spider

rotund ferry
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when a man and a woman love each other very much

patent canopy
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ffs

sinful trout
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currently we dont REALLY know. up to this point we've assumed that an entity called the sculptor has made it from a human. all the lore writers weve come across havent stopped this thought either

slim hatch
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@sinful trout Don't forget Character Creation video

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We know for a fact it's formerly a human

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what we don't know is who it is.

burnt orchid
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Btw, where can i find more lore?
I have read all the wiki, the incident report, and the hunter desk on the site

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Can i find more somewhere?

stiff vector
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Have you read the pinned messages here?

burnt orchid
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Nop

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Oh thats awesome

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Thanks dude

slim hatch
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=.=

sinful trout
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@slim hatch I remember the video. I'm just saying we don't know that the sculptor made the spider

slim hatch
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It's actually also confirmed that at present there is only one entity at play (There are more) but at present only Sculptor

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That was hinted at in the page where we got the name from

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We have been working on a 2nd QnA for quite some time and as at present we probably won't be able to have another session with a writer, this is the view only version where you can see all the questions and answers we received

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HTkRtmbIAySC2EKmphECRGSbuOAnu4i_f52Ts9wVGDQ/edit?usp=sharing

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@proper cradle Could you do me a favour and pin this one?

proper cradle
slim hatch
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proper cradle
slim hatch
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😏

stiff vector
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No face peek

slim hatch
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If you cum across Fasih tell him I love him and wait for him every night.... With that exact tentacle sway

sinful trout
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CHEESE AND RICE

twilit torrent
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how does that have to do with the lore

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is it a new consumable or something

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or something found iin a house?

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or is it what you are eating

sinful trout
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cheese and rice is a alternative to saying jesus christ. as im trying to swear less (seeing as it makes people blow up)

twilit torrent
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oh

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makes sense

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thought you were on to a EPIC lore secret

sinful trout
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that would be epic

burnt orchid
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Whats the diference betwen both lore channels?

forest condor
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The hardcore channel is full of var'uun being smart. This one is var'uun eating cheese, rice, and ducks

burnt orchid
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I say we put a hold on hunting abominations and hunt crows and ducks to extinction

forest condor
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shh were trying to keep var'uun happy so no ducks

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he can't understand this when you use one asterisk

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like John Cena he can't see this

urban burrow
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No ducks? But they are obviously the main pieces of in game lore we have!

burnt orchid
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Its a sacrifice worth making

rotund ferry
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@sinful trout have you seen my theory

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But it's no an affliction not a desease

slim hatch
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@rotund ferry If you haven't read i suggest you read 2nd QnA

rotund ferry
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I have read it

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But I am a idiot so idk what I am missing

slim hatch
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Maybe repost your theory?

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Point was maybe there was information that would help you with your theory.

sinful trout
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@forest condor wait, I make smart comments?

forest condor
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@sinful trout "this belongs in casual" the best choice you've made,

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Because how else would us peasants get our hands on this elusive lore

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But legit you're one of the best people with lore here (of course essense is in that boat too)

slim hatch
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Bullshit I'm evil bitch with a whip just keeping an eye on you kids.

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***Cracks whip at @forest condor ***

hollow merlin
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What if there were xp for burning all those crows and chicken/dog pens

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I burn them so many but I dont get anything...

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Or if you hit a crow or duck with a gun and it flies away... I hit some in the air also

forest condor
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That belongs In suggestion ideas @hollow merlin

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OwO @slim hatch

mossy oracle
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OWO

slim hatch
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***Sprays furry away at @forest condor ***

hollow merlin
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@forest condor sorry

sinful trout
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@forest condor I am LITTERALLY the least productive one here. Thanks for the nightmares though @slim hatch . Why is there always so much BDSM in lore discussion

slim hatch
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Because it fits what I’m

sinful trout
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shudders

forest condor
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Thanks for the cure @slim hatch it really healed me!!

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You know the lore tho, and you've helped people get situated here, and that's a good thing @sinful trout

sinful trout
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Honestly I don't know as much as people let on. I've actually been thinking of getting essence to drop me from hardcore until I refresh my memory. But then I thought about it and I decided to just re-read everything on my breaks.

And to be frank I love coming to lore discussion. It's a light talking about lore. It's probably my favorite channel in all of hunt official, it's you blankstards that get me thinking about different angles and it's enjoyable to come up with close theories that are far strung but end up having truth.

late tinsel
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Same. I appreciate everyone here helping me dig into the lore. Both Ess & Var have been very helpful in steering me in the right direction. It’s nice to just jump in here and brainstorm on what’s shaping up to be a world filled with rich lore and meaning behind everything we see in the game.

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I also appreciate the deep lore team undertaking the fowl investigation. 🦆

forest condor
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I just love this chat, it's been getting me to come back every day and just talk about ideas with like minded people, it's just such a good way to do lore, I've been loving it here, keep it up

slim hatch
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=.= People are thankful Hissssssss

sinful trout
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Ugh compliments. The literal bane of my existence.

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@forest condor @late tinsel seriously though. Thank you guys. It's the same two people when I come back and because I see either of your names I know the conversation will be civil and somewhat on topic

late tinsel
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huntGasm 👉👉

forest condor
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Thanks @sinful trout, it means a lot and now, ducks

sand elbow
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What exactly is QuickPlay in the lore?

sinful trout
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hey @sand elbow there is an article about it on the hunt website! it talks of rifts and wellsprings you cant miss it. ill link it soon if you cant find it

sand elbow
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Sweet

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Thanks

sinful trout
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did you find it?@sand elbow

sand elbow
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No I couldn't

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The website is mega weird

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I checked after you told me though

sinful trout
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gotchu 😄

sand elbow
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Thanks man

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Just read it

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That's some spooky stuff

slim hatch
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Read pinned posts!

sinful trout
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In all honesty this should just be the name of this chat

plush kindle
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just change the description

sinful trout
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I can't

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And I'd ask to pin a post saying read pinned posts but in all honesty
THAT WOULDNT EVEN GET READ (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

plush kindle
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wat

sinful trout
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?

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I don't think that comment should be in this channel @eager scaffold

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Oof

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Banned

plush kindle
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rip

chilly zealot
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wtf

low sleet
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Offf

sinful trout
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Good to know the automod still works

plush kindle
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what in the goddamn just happened?

sinful trout
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Guy jumped in. Guy got mad. Guy got banned. All in the matter of 30 seconds...

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@chilly zealot in the last 5 chats I looked at you're within the last 5 comments on each... YOURE EVERYWHERE

random lava
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He left himself

plush kindle
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even better

chilly zealot
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deleted the comment too Thunk

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nixa is hiding his victims

plush kindle
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oh no

sinful trout
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Oof. So he just mic dropped some incomprehensible nonsence and then yeeted

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Or is it a cover up @random lava

random lava
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Let's not dwell on this and keep it on topic

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Or more will disappear

sinful trout
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he shot himself

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@random lava can you change the description to read pinned posts? I'm not kidding.

random lava
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I cannot. I'll ask maq tho

sinful trout
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Thanks!

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Actually hold up

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@slim hatch is that okay, boss?

random lava
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She's not the boss

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Anyone can suggest things fiskLul

sinful trout
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Trust me. When you're that flipping terrifying. You're the boss.

slim hatch
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Huh what did i miss?

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Ow yes

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Absolutely

sinful trout
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To both?

slim hatch
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@elfin laurel can you change it with addition to “Read pinned posts”

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What was 2nd thing?

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But we do absolutely need that change since people ignore it

sinful trout
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Don't worry about it

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But yes

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I agree

elfin laurel
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Done it

slim hatch
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plush kindle
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Maq is moving at the speed of sound

slim hatch
plush kindle
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dammit

elfin laurel
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why isn't yours moving

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oh nvm now it was Discord just didn't load

plush kindle
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Wait isn't that gif from that depressing anime music video

sinful trout
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No clue. I don't watch sad weeb shit. Only cool weeb shit

slim hatch
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@plush kindle It's from ME ME ME! and @sinful trout That shit fucking lit to the point where initially YT didn't allow it until it became a huge ass hit so they were forced to let it in (because of 18+ content)

sinful trout
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I'll check it later then.

forest condor
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Hey var'uun and essence, how often do you play the game?

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Just asking

sinful trout
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Litterally every flipping day

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I'm obsessed, it's my favorite game to date

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This should be in hunting grounds I think.

slim hatch
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@forest condor daily

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700h and going strong

sinful trout
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Zoinks. Das a lot of hourz

undone forge
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😏

forest condor
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Wow,

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That's hella hours

sinful trout
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I only have 500

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Feelsbad

forest condor
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we should play sometime, though I only have 175 : (

slim hatch
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Feel free to drop me dm reminder tomorrow and we can figure it out @forest condor

forest condor
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sure thing!

sinful trout
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same goes to me @forest condor i play on three servers with minimal ping. us-east us-west and EU

burnt orchid
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Im also kind obsessed with this game

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It has everything i love

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Even thought im garbage at it

forest condor
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You'll get better, there's always a learning curve for these things, I'm glad you like it though! (also lore chat is best chat)

burnt orchid
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I already improved 5fold just by rethinking how i play the game

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The first match i "clicked" i got one kill, and the only reason i didnt get the other was that a hive memed me

forest condor
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holy shit those things are annoying,

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but it's so satisfying to kill someone being swarmed

burnt orchid
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My first kill against one of then was in melee

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I accidentally ran into it then smashed her with my shotgun

stiff vector
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I know it's not common for you. But there is a #hunt-general channel. 😛

burnt orchid
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Pls no buli

forest condor
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cool, so lore, ummm, bee lady gets scooped while alive and put into jelly bottles, this creates hive bombs

burnt orchid
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Worse job in the universe if you ask me

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Arent the green wasps supernatural?

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Like, ghosts?

forest condor
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no, they're just steeped in poision and the devs wanted you to know that without becoming....aquainted with them

burnt orchid
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No like, i dont mean that then being green makes then ghosts

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But i swear i read somewhere they were ghost wasps

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Reminder water devils ate all crocodiles

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F

forest condor
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Makes sense about the crocs : (, also if you find where you read it @ me

burnt orchid
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Sure

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"Scognamillio thinks it feels like an evolution of a simpler form; in this case a person possessed by some kind of insect spirit eventually turning the body into a hive itself. Harold Black's book includes pieces of a hunter's describing this thing."

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@forest condor

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Hunt: Showdown Wiki

The Hive is a type of monster encounter in Hunt: Showdown. It has no particular resistances or vulnerabilities to weapon-specific damage. Hives can usually be located near strategic points such...

forest condor
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oh right, that's the "shaper" we've been trying to discover, it's the thing that caused this affliction in the bayous

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it can do a possess and can do a destroy

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but all we really know is that it can create these monsters and specifically create the bosses, there is some connection with hell but we haven't dug much farther than that

plush kindle
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Is the shaper a singular entity or are there multiple

forest condor
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this one is a single entity, there have been other instances of a shaper in the past but this one is singular

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we're pretty sure

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but it is powerful and able to change and possess many entities at once

plush kindle
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Like people?

forest condor
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yep

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and there was a poltergiest in 1885 that caused problems

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with objects

plush kindle
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How long does it take for the NPCs to mutate

forest condor
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this is the only thing we have regarding any kind of time frame

burnt orchid
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What even is hell in hunt?

forest condor
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I think it's the calssical sense of hell but twisted with an parellel universe

plush kindle
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It is twisted since you know literal demons are escaping

forest condor
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something like that

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i ment more like combined

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(also sorry for the typos, I type faster than i should sometimes)

plush kindle
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Are the grunts reanimated corpses or possessed people?

forest condor
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I beleve it's possessed people with the bosses being a bit special in those regards

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I asked a while ago about the bosses connection to hell, weather or not banishing the bosses brought them BACK to hell, and I was told I was right in several ways

plush kindle
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So all the monsters are people unlucky enough to get possessed?

burnt orchid
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Is the bayou the only affected area?

plush kindle
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Don't think so

forest condor
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it's more an affliction than possession, it's been described as a plague in the way it seems to spread but we don't know that much yet, and the whole world is affected in different ways by different events, I.E. the Sinners, a foreign (Probable Muslum) group of hunters

plush kindle
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There are hunter associations from other countries

forest condor
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^

plush kindle
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All of the russian equipment we have are from russian association

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The sinners are a group of hunters aren't they?

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Wasn't the legendaruly hunter's partner part of the sinners?

burnt orchid
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Oh, i want to talk about the sinners

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They are that group that went to stay a "djinn" for 40 cards right?

forest condor
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Read the caldwell letter in the in-game book, it's neat

burnt orchid
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I made that connection by myself

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Yay

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Also, what does the graffiti in 77 means?

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In new york

forest condor
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idk about the 77 yet, hasn't been enough on that to warrent any real conclusion, but speculate away

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and I believe so about the Djinn

plush kindle
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Isn't there a story about a legendary hunter with a daughter?

forest condor
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John hayward hunter

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went into the Bayou 99 times

plush kindle
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His partner was part of the sinners wasn't he

burnt orchid
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Ye

forest condor
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yeah, Sinan "the gun poet"

burnt orchid
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Sinan

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Soldier from a distant land

forest condor
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he was a Sinner

plush kindle
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I like how the american hunter guild's acronym is AHA

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take on me intensifies

burnt orchid
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Also, i saw the timelime

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2020?

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We got anything from there?

plush kindle
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Can't believe that's a year away

forest condor
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lol

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it's coming up

burnt orchid
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Pls

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Well, i already got a leather hat

forest condor
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lol

burnt orchid
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Also, did a german regiment actualy disapear in Louisiana?

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Or it was just their journal?

forest condor
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hmmm, where is this?

burnt orchid
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German letter

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Lousiania incident

forest condor
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oh ok

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i'll check it out in a bit

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I don't know the details of that one

undone forge
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Looks like an evil dream catcher. Maybe a nightmare catcher? 😏

faint whale
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or maybe some poor peasant tried to build a tv antenna

river rain
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The dream catchers i know of are circular with string webbing across the circle portion and feathers hanging from the bottom. Not saying its not a dream catcher because i certainly don't know every variation and i got a dream catcher vibe from it as well when i first looked at it. But i think it might be something else. That is what I think atlest.

mellow jetty
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The "TV antenna" Hivehead

undone forge
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wondering if the bits on the ends are some sort of meaningful symbols

faint whale
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well he was ahead of his time ok

slim hatch
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@undone forge It's one of those charms

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Not an expert on the charms but probably a spirit warder or something like that

sick cove
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yeah that was my initial thought as well, some sort of ward

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since it looks like someone was camped out up there

plush kindle
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Maybe it's opposite

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Maybe it's to attract

random lava
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Maybe it's maybelline

plush kindle
sick cove
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no u

plush kindle
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Nixa has derailed it time to pack up

sick cove
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let's try to get back on topic here

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so...

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DUCKS

slim hatch
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=.=

sick cove
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what do we know about them?

slim hatch
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What

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The

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Fuck

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Is going on here.

sick cove
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and what do they know about us?

plush kindle
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Ducks are the source

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They are the key

slim hatch
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=.=

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I need enforcement agents here now

random lava
sick cove
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Too late, we've already lured them to another channel

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nvm

sinful trout
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I was so proud for a moment.

sick cove
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Nixa started ittttttt

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we were going strong up until that point

sinful trout
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I DONT CARE WHO STARTED IT

sick cove
sinful trout
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@burnt orchid it's safe to assume if a journal that a regiment was protecting has been lost then the entire regiment was lost.

sick cove
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I think Klayn's wondering more if the regiment was actually in Louisiana

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and if that's where they went missing

sinful trout
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They lionsgiele regiment went missing in Chicago, but evidence suggests they fled further south into new orleans

sick cove
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ok yeah upon re-reading I think he was just wondering what you answered, about whether or not they disappeared in general

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Is there any more info on the diary/journal that's mentioned though?

sinful trout
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"As the Lord wanted, an encounter with a dragon brought me a new track that leads to the south, into the swamps of Louisiana. The worrisome stories about the incidents at this godforsaken place that were passed along to me, suggest to me again that more than just the diary was lost.

Because of this I’m going to turn my back on Chicago in the next few days and purchased passage with the Union Pacific Railway to Saint Louis."

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And not that I've seen. Only other diary mentioned is Harold blacks diary which seems to be a renowned guide to monsters

sick cove
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Is Harold mentioned anywhere else other than here? "Scognamillio thinks it feels like an evolution of a simpler form; in this case a person possessed by some kind of insect spirit eventually turning the body into a hive itself. Harold Black's book includes pieces of a hunter's describing this thing"

sinful trout
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Nope

burnt orchid
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What was that regiment doing in the US?

knotty rose
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@burnt orchid During the American Revolution, there were many German-speaking states loosely unified under the Holy Roman Empire. And they tend to hire/loan some of their soldery to the british!

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btw. I could not find any traces of a "Löwenschild"-Regiment in North America.

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But one existed with the austrian army!^^

burnt orchid
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Ok, this is epic

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Germans have a way to appear in weird places

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like belgium

sinful trout
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Basically. Any hunters organization could attend any hunt. So in the Louisiana event there is French and German names in the mix.

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I.e John hayward was American (I believe) but sinan was Turkish. They would have to cross hunts soner or later

burnt orchid
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How common is the knowledge of what is going on?

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The world doenst seen to be changing much compared to ours

slim hatch
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It’s being covered up according to Louisiana papers

burnt orchid
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Hm

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We need doomslayer asap

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Pls halp

slim hatch
sinful trout
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Please let the next frame just be blood everywhere

burnt orchid
forest condor
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and the circle is completed

sinful trout
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sigh

sinful trout
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this doesnt belong here @rotund ferry @random lava

sick cove
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there might be important lore related content in it tho

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you'll have to watch it to find out 😉

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jk he's spamming, ignore it

plush kindle
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I mean the dingdong is just an asshole

forest condor
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has this image taked from the ending of the trials of DR Reed been discussed yet?

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i've "enhanced" it a bit

undone forge
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^this is from what/where/huh?

stiff vector
forest condor
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It was at the end, I think this is definitive proof Reed isn't the spider, as if we needed more.

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but maybe he became a hive

burnt orchid
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Reminds me of a grunt

forest condor
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he mentioned moths fluttering by his ear

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which leads me to believe that

burnt orchid
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Male hive

forest condor
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yep

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they exist, sexist /s

rocky bloom
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Can some one decipher this bit ? :- I flee sa fi tyeh ytr ot ekta orot. Dsrow no het gepa a a

undone forge
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Looks like drifting into jibberish, possibly like a creole dialect of Aklo or something 😛 idk

fathom badge
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"I feel as if they try to take root. Words on the page a a" @rocky bloom @undone forge

elfin laurel
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Why did this lore channel turn into a Goblin slayer channel maqWhut

fathom badge
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I believe it is his stating that the moths are beginning to dig into him, "try[ing] to take root"
and possibly feed on his innards as referenced by the one dead man's innards only consisting of moths

forest condor
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Or, we saw the early stages of a hive and he's now becoming one

fathom badge
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I mean possible, but moths dont have stingers

forest condor
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But they can bite

fathom badge
#

Unless he just calls then moths in his delusion? Though he is a doctor

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I suppose

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But "hive" implies stinging insects

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For me at least

forest condor
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A lot of implications aren't what they imply

fathom badge
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Of course, i just find the most direct conclusions to be the most precise a lot of the time

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Though it really doesnt explain who or where he is currently

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Perhaps he is even an unnamed and insignifigant corpse with the lot of them, wouldn't surprise me in the end

forest condor
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I'd assume that too, but with the lore texts and those mention of moths it reminds us we don't truly know what they arr

fathom badge
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Right

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Moths dont usually burrow into flesh, now do they

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So there is merit

forest condor
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Yeah, but people don't normally become zombies, it's honestly the best theory we have as there are no mentions of other insects in regards to people's bodies

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But we have to wait for those lore books to come out

fathom badge
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Possibly

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But im willing to believe the wasps and the moths are both seperate of eachother

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Just through my own conclusions

forest condor
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Oh wait

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It belches flies through a cavity in its throat.

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We're both wrong I think

sinful trout
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Im with arpy on this one. Moths do seem to have a significant role in this event. However many have called the hives insects bees but if you get close ups of the hive insects they look like they have defined wings like moths. (I'm the one who collects them for hive bombs) but we are also certain that it is moths that have burrowed into the flesh of Dr reeds victims. "The infection is potent. Odd. I began an autopsy yet the corpse—but two hours dead—contained only moths. Living moths and no organs." -reed himself.
That text proves that moths burrow into organs and begin to make a hospitible environment for themselves within human hosts. Further insisting that hives COULD be moths. However there's another piece that mentions flies as arpy earlier mentioned. But moths are like flies so it's possible this narrator just called them that. @forest condor @fathom badge

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On another note unreliable narrator. What you call a blackfly I call a moth. They both bite. They both fly

burnt orchid
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New boss maybe?

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Mothboi

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If u have a lantern u take extra damage

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The bugs on the hive look like big ass bettles tho

sick cove
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"flies" could be used as a general term to describe any flying insect in this sense

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also, it's possible they're poisonous moths

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But in any case, they are the workings of whatever evil is corrupting everything else

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not just normal moths

burnt orchid
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demon moths

sick cove
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IMPORTANT LORE BREAKTHROUGH

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this authentic drawing from Harold Black's Journal refers to them as bees ^

burnt orchid
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Yes

sick cove
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inb4 "stop filling lore-discussion with memes"

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I got my PhD in Hunt Loreology at Lawson State University, does this look like a meme to you?

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The first picture is just a digitally recreated remaster of Harold's original sketch

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So, what does this tell us

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  1. Hive gf is canon
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  1. Harold has hive gf refer to the insects as bees
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2.0.1) This does not necessarily mean that they are bees, however - he could have mistaken them for bees

forest condor
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@sinful trout good point about the unreliable narrator, (was wondering why the lore chat had a legit direction till I looked at your name, nice new picture btw)

slim hatch
forest condor
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(for real It's looking better and better)

sinful trout
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@sick cove stop filling lore discussion with me es

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@forest condor thanks! Buddy of mine made it for me. It's actually what Var'uun looks like

forest condor
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Hey, it looks legit, rember that unreliable narrative theme?

sinful trout
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Yeah. What about it

sinful trout
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@forest condor DONT LEAVE ME HANGING

fathom badge
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He was going to reveal all of the truths but he wasn't fast enough @sinful trout

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RIP

forest condor
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Sorry I was at a thing, @sinful trout. I was saying that he could be remembering the events differdntly, or straight up lying, but still is true to Hunt's lore

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We can't be sure until fasih comes back

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🤔

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Also disclaimer imagine a massive /s around the entirety of my post history today

urban burrow
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They could be botfy's?

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There are a couple of types of botfly and, unluckily for us, one of them specifically targets humans. The human botfly is a fly that sort of looks like a bumblebee, and while it doesn't feed on human flesh, or even eat at all, its larvae certainly do. In order to make sure that its offspring get fed, human botflies use our bodies as a perfect place to incubate their eggs and maggots. That being said, botflies don't put their eggs inside us themselves!

burnt orchid
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Oof

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How they do it?

urban burrow
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Botflies will first lay their eggs on mosquitos or ticks, and then when a person is bitten by one of these insects, the eggs and larvae make their way under our skin! The maggots burrow down and down, leaving a hole behind them to breathe through while they feed on our blood and tissue. Someone infected with the larvae may feel them wiggling around inside their skin. Luckily, they leave on their own after about eight weeks, but during that time, it's still a very creepy visitor.

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Or there are screwworm flies, There are two types of screworm fly, the Old World screwworm fly and the New World screwworm fly. Both are pretty damn terrifying in their own ways, and they have been known to show up in Florida. In general, these worms seek out open wounds, then lay their eggs in or around the wound before it seals over, then the maggots gestate inside. And they don't really care if you're an animal or a human, as long as your body is warm.

Once the eggs hatch, the maggots start to thrive inside you, and they seek out any small or secluded area to grow. In one horrifying case, the flesh-eating maggots gave one British woman a lifetime of nightmares in 2013. Upon getting home from a visit to Peru, the woman said she started experiencing headaches and shooting pains down the side of her face. Then there was a strange discharge from one ear. When doctors examined her, they found that her ear was full of flesh-eating maggots from the screwworm fly.

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These are quotes btw im not reciting this by memory lol

forest condor
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Wow

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Got anything on ducks?

burnt orchid
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@urban burrow did they eat her brain?

urban burrow
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well its a duck boat....but hey we can leave the boat part out haha

burnt orchid
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Oof

sinful trout
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as that is true @urban burrow the only real thing we have to go off of is reed saying moths and some other guy saying flies. im more leaning towards the medical proffesisionals POV but thats just me

brave knoll
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I'd lean towards whoever's the better entomologist but y'know

burnt orchid
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But we also have to look at it on a meta level

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The lore writers would need to deliver us the info they want

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I do think those are moths and or flies

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New enemy maybe?

forest condor
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They did describe an armored as having the flies so who knows

sinful trout
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source?

forest condor
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step, and what you took for a twisted stump lurches and chokes. It belches flies through a cavity in its throat.

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Can't mistake a hive for a stump even in the dark

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(also is it just me or is the unreliable narrative thing an excuse for a change in lore?)

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Cause if so it's clever

forest condor
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@sinful trout

sinful trout
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i dont think so. i like the style becaus eits more realistic. you hear stories but you cant be sure weather or not theyre true

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amd @forest condor it could have been a lying down zed

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thats what i always thought

forest condor
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Hmm I guess, it does take place at night so maybe.

hollow merlin
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@forest condor On ducks you might use water dinamite I guess but its a waste

sick cove
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Ooh we talking duck lore again?

forest condor
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new trait, duck dyno, tie a big dynamite bundle to a duck and fly it at the enimies

slim hatch
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@forest condor you disappointed us

burnt orchid
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What is "devil in the churchyard" about?

drifting frigate
low sleet
#

U found Duckenstein Gz

burnt orchid
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Nice

sinful trout
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Yeah it used to be just a manaquin with a duck head. With the new update it morphed

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@forest condor WE TRUSTED YOU

forest condor
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Wait, so ducks did kinda fit into the lore a bit?

slim hatch
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...

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@sinful trout in 0.100 it was just a duck laying on the table

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Stop with the fucking ducks you

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FOLLOWING BARRAGE OF INSULTS WAS REMOVED BY CENSORSHIP NOT TO OFFEND ANY MENTALLY WEAKENED, PC, SJW LEANING PEOPLE. PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THIS TEXT CANNOT BE BY PASSED WITHOUT AUTOMATICALLY BEING CONSIDERED RIGHT WING FASCIST

forest condor
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I'm gonna go search for some piece of lore to redeem myself

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Huff and Elwood Finch seem to be collegues

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boom

sinful trout
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No shit sherlock

forest condor
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😦

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okay, is it possable that clues are traces of when the boss resided in different compounds?

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"You mark off Alice Farm as having harbored nothing more than a trace of your target. In light of the revelation, you strike through two more."

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also in response to the earlier discussion of the hive lying down, "and what you took for a twisted stump lurches and chokes."

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It coudn't have lurched if it was lying down

sinful trout
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You can lurch your body in a half sitting position if you're lying down. My assumption is that the hunter stepped on it's stomach and moths came to his throat forcing it to choke

forest condor
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ohh okay, I didn't read it like that, I can see how you got it

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the bit with the other hunter shooting confused me a bit

sinful trout
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Oh yeah. It was a solid one shot kill I think

forest condor
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I'm just wondering if the shot killed the hive or if it was some different guy, cause in my head the narrator is walking through some woods and sees the battle go down, cause if he stepped on it then retreated, the hunter who shot the hive would have seen him

sinful trout
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How do you know he was shooting at the zed?

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All it says was "a shot rang out and then it occurred to me, there's no way to know that it's gone"

forest condor
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Yeah I was thinking about that, he was close enough to hear a splash but it's left a bit ambiguous. Probably he's hoping the hive would move towards the shot

sinful trout
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in all honesty though. do you ever know if the enemy is coming back towards you or away? not really. the narrator has a point in being afraid of the zed

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also. never been said its a hive.

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even typical zeds have moths inside them

forest condor
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Ohh I took the "spewed flies" to be referring to hives. Unreliable narrators and their misuse of fauna

sinful trout
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yeppp

forest condor
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so moths>flies and the hunters don't know the difference

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okeday

thorny current
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how did the whole, infection, demon thing start anyways?

sinful trout
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with the sculptor. basically a portal opened up and this thing passed through and began to wreak havok. weather it opened up a portal or weather theres a cult dedicated to helping them through is currently unknown

forest condor
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the sculptor being one of a few archtypes of beings the hunters have encountered in the past, the sculptor being the current threat. it's pretty spoopy and can change things, hence the name

thorny current
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Neat

wooden patrol
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Can some lore wizard gimme the lowdown on why people are getting sucked into/coming out of trees?

forest condor
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?

sinful trout
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hes memeing on a bug arpy

forest condor
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ahh, shame on you @wooden patrol

wooden patrol
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I saw a dude that was like, near the base of a tree, but he was like, fused with it

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Not memeing

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Still had a cowboy hat on. Think it was on Lawson Delta

burnt orchid
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Oof

sinful trout
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Screenshot?

random lava
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Pretty sure it's the one outside Cyprus huts.

sinful trout
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That's a Easter egg to Groot I'm pretty sure

signal heart
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Is this thing on?

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Heya

stiff vector
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Hi 😃

rotund ferry
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@signal heart working fine, what's up?

signal heart
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Oh fancy meeting you hear(n)

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Well it's been a while since we stopped by to say hello

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Hi @stiff vector

rotund ferry
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that's true, word mine has been in overdrive recently

signal heart
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Seriously

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Well, everybody (I guess to everybody who sees this later since there don't seem to be many folks around right now)...we had a question for you

random lava
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She's back 😄 hi @signal heart

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@rotund ferry also hi other words person

signal heart
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GREETINGS. 😃

Anyway, so of course we still can't answer many questions as we've been sworn to secrecy, but thought if you all could compile, say, your top three questions for us, we wanted to see if we could maaaaybe free up some information for you

random lava
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@sinful trout @slim hatch look, potential info

rotund ferry
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Greetings all - to introduce myself, I've been on the words / narrative team since the start (and lurking here for an age), but before now haven't dipped my oar into the Discord. So, if you have any questions or clarifications on the lore (yes, I've seen the doc), you can also address them to me! To be honest, I'll probably not answer them directly, but we are definitely factoring them into our work 😃

undone forge
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Hello @rotund ferry ! It's good to know you are lurking around and I'm glad you finally dipped in 😃 I'm sure there will be plenty of questions and clarifications from me but honestly I need to do a bit more digging and learning from what we already know before I have some super juicy ones. One thing I was wondering though is if there is a date or approximate time period that the AHA was established or was it even technically established or is it more of a secret society "I got a secret contract" kind of thing.

random lava
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Nice to meet you

undone forge
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Oh but I'm not trying to take away one of the three questions from the community! I was just wondering to myself 😃

rotund ferry
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@undone forge we are definitely looking to further develop and explore the history of the AHA and similar organizations in upcoming content - personally the recent history of this is really interesting to me! As for answering your question, we're always inspired as much as possible by real history, so while I won't answer directly I think you'd get an approximate answer looking into the history of similar organizations / institutions / occult shit 😃

undone forge
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Awesome 🤠 Thank you @rotund ferry I really look forward to this! 👍

slim hatch
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@random lava Thanks for bringing it to our attention

sinful trout
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Thanks @random lava we got this

rotund ferry
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Lore people!

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I haveth a question

plush kindle
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go on

rotund ferry
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The butcher.. is like a meathead right?
Like a daddy meathead. Correct?

Then how come the meatheads cant see or hear but the butcher can (almost perfectly)

sinful trout
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Meatheads can hear just fine @rotund ferry

slim hatch
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@sinful trout I'll point out this here 7.

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7: why were the hunter unconscious in the beginning of a match in quick play? And why did they wake?

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Considering based on lore texts

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THey go there to save themselves

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Why would they wake up...

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Aka they went there willing they aren't dead men waking up

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They are hunters near expiration that went to wellspring to save themselves

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Rifts same as portals - 18. The clues in the game, are they a portal like the ones you mentioned in the QnA? Like for example could the clue be an unstable portal?

Answer: Yes, they are unstable portals.
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Considering they do function in a similar matter it's fairly safe to assume they are type of unstable portals

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Want to point it out

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But yeah w/e writers pick out

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We will need to make sure to document it

sinful trout
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Q7s main purpose is to why are they unconscious?

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If they went there willingly, then why not just start the game like every other match of bounty hunt? With hunters already standing at the ready?

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I'll take responsibility for documenting.

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@rotund ferry @signal heart could y'all check our character sheet and give it a seal of approval if everything is correct

forest condor
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I actually have a theory on why they wake up, could it be that they have succumbed to the influence of the damnation and the opening of the wellspring that drags them back to life?

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Cause it seems like something that we could make some pretty good assumptions about without support from the lore team

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Leaving other questions to be answered

slim hatch
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^ That is a fairly plausible theory but we have no basis

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Hence we need more info so we can actually have foundation on it

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A theory without foundation is a hypothesis or speculation difference between the two is amount of basis

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Hypothesis is based on evidence
Speculation isn't based on anything really

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Theory is plausible hypothesis that can be in a way confirmed.

forest condor
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Okay, I get ya, I'm just looking at the questions and see some that are way less game changing than others lore wise, but the voting system is doing it's job there

slim hatch
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Well to be frank

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We can't ask questions based on nothing

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So until they release until one book of lore

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We are running on fumes

forest condor
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Oh definitely, I love that you guys are doing this vote thing, if the top voted questions are answered that would be great

undone forge
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You guys act like you've never woken up from sleeping on the ground in the woods before. 'rise up dead man' can be taken many ways

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😃

slim hatch
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^ Yeah you know never happened to me....

forest condor
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I did it he other day, found a shotgun next to me

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/s

slim hatch
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And you know it's just i don't know about you but Hunters are supposedly quite professional and rugged

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So going in to save yourself just to pass out in a hostile area without a decent equipment set seems iffy to me

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Because logically as a veteran hunter if i was going to save myself from damnation knowing damn well I might face even my former friends there I'd prepare for it like it was the end of the world. Tools, Guns, Ammunition, medicine because don't underestimate a human who has nothing to lose.

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So yeah Huff's speech kinda contradicts what we see in-game

forest condor
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Could the QP we've been playing be a simaler situation to the bounty Hunter, it could be the story of the first wellspring

slim hatch
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Yeah it could be

forest condor
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All the hunters could have fallen to damnation and been looted or something,

slim hatch
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It could be the story of the first wellspring

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But in that case.

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Tell us about it?

forest condor
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The wellspring opening could bring them back

slim hatch
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That is a plausible idea but

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They haven't told us shit yet

forest condor
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Without proof there's no way to know but it is plausible based on what we know about bounty hunt

slim hatch
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So it's fairly safe to assume that the QP that we see is one of the Wellspring occurrences not the first one not the last one considering time-ear wise it contradicts

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Because if it was the first one equipment would be different

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As the name is lost to history

burnt orchid
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I think that the curse means the hunter starts losing performance, and when they figure out whats going on they basically have nothing left

slim hatch
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^ Ummmm no

burnt orchid
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I also think the appearance of a wellspring knocks out all cursed men nearby

slim hatch
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Based on existing knowledge from QnA's and tests

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Hunters are all far too well aware

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of what is going on with them

burnt orchid
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Aint the curse a thing that only affects a few hunters?

slim hatch
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We don't know because... Flips table screaming at the top of her lungs "BECAUSE THEY WON'T FUCKING GIVE US MORE LORE!!!"

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No

forest condor
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All hunters with dark sight

slim hatch
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All Hunters are affected it's the result of Dark Sight

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And Dark Sight is basically part of initiation process

forest condor
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It's part of the burden affiliated with DS

slim hatch
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There is a price they have to pay for receiving it and using it

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Hence the very early observation we had with T3 having lesions and burns on their skin

forest condor
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We don't know if it's the only price though^

slim hatch
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Which was confirmed by Huff's speech

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"Putrid"

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We don't even know if there are more abilities than just dark-sight

forest condor
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Up to this point we've assumed that extra power from bounties went towards traits, but it could go to something else

slim hatch
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Ummm we never assumed that?

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Or did i miss the memo?

forest condor
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I though there was a discussion on this wayyyy back

slim hatch
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Ummmm we know that bounty is a specific organ containing the beast's soul

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Yet it contradicts the fact that we are sending them back to hell

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And then there is contradiction

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That "Hunters need bounty to survive"

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Yet

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Hunters can extract and live to fight another day

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So

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You know

forest condor
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Wheres the idea that hunters need the bounty said?

slim hatch
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Okay you know what I'm actually getting pissed off here so i better eject myself from this discussion because i'm getting pissed not because of the discussion but because of the fucking lack of lore pieces.

forest condor
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(words are hard)

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Have a good day Essense, I hope these questions get answered

slim hatch
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I'm looking for that piece atm

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Also you can refer to first QnA where we already knew

forest condor
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Ah okay

slim hatch
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That the burns, lesions on skin are a thing

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From Dark sight

forest condor
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I knew about that

slim hatch
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  1. What are we actually picking up from the bosses? We get it’s a token but what actually is it?
    Answer: it’s a unique part of their body containing part of their soul.
forest condor
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The idea that hunters need the bounty,(for reasons other than greed and power hunger) is new to me though

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Hmm

slim hatch
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So much to read through

forest condor
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Yeah

slim hatch
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@forest condor Really?

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What about True deck?

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True Deck was reoccurringly mentioned

forest condor
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I've heard little about the true deck

slim hatch
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Originally we assumed that they gave it to AHA in order to get the True deck

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Which originally we assumed was able to save their souls

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But based on true-deck lore piece

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It seemed to well do what tarrot decks are supposed to do (Well not in our world but you get the point) Tell the future

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Based on the new piece of Lore text, the hunter with the True Deck looking at Tower, is it safe to assume that True deck isn’t a salvation as we assumed initially but rather a tool to foresee your future? The hunter expected to die because from the true deck staring back at him was The Tower. And in Tarot Tower’s meaning is as follows "The Tower is commonly interpreted as meaning danger, crisis, sudden change, destruction, higher learning, and liberation. In the Rider-Waite deck, the top of The Tower is a crown, which symbolizes materialistic thought being bought cheap" -Essy
Answer: The True Deck is a tool and more. You’ll have to wait for more answers.

forest condor
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Interesting

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Okay

slim hatch
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  1. Why do hunters die instantly the moment the timer on the contract expires?
    Answer: To be technical, they don’t instantly die but we can just “cut to” their deaths. Let us say for now that it is not only the money they’re after.
forest condor
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Thank you

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There it is

slim hatch
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Yeah that's about the best i can offer for now

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I recall

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There was an important incident

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in 1666 i think

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well somewhere in 1600's

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I think it was in UK

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But

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It slipped by and don't think we have it documented

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Nor even screenshotted

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So

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Grumbles FUCK!

forest condor
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So that was an excerpt from a shaper or other entity?

slim hatch
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No idea

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It's from one of the books that are yet to be released

forest condor
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Spooky

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Why is it in the weapons book though

slim hatch
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It might be reference to 1886 incident

forest condor
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Possibly

slim hatch
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1886 incident was poltergeist case

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Okay my blood is boiling

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So

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Pulls ejection lever "DON'T SAY ANYTHING OR I'LL BE BACK!"

forest condor
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👍

sinful trout
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I'm back easy. Take a break

forest condor
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a better name is Loretonians

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cause loreans just sounds weird

sinful trout
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LORENIANS

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BACKHANDS GET IT RIGHT

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And it's a good theory arps. But my only issue is that we don't have any evidence to back up the death theory. I made this theory when qp first came out. That when hunters died during the hunt they were revived in a half dead state to find the wellspring. Once claimed everyone else falls silent as they were supposed to be but the wellspring carrier is free to go seek medical attention at finches

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There's no backing. Hence why the question is there. If we vote on it, then we get more details to unlock this theory firther. But for now we are not to pursue it further without evidence

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@random lava could you pin the vote please? Just so we can access easier?

sinful trout
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Or anybody pin it for that matter...

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@elfin laurel HELP! S.O.S ··· --- ···

sinful trout
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help us @ionic gull won kenobi. you're our only hope

ionic gull
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Hi, what's the topic here ?

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if it's lore related, i'm the wrong person to ask 😃

sinful trout
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i need help pinning a message

ionic gull
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oh, i actually don't think i have control over this 😃 , give it a second one of o

sinful trout
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nix has me covered. you failed to save the galaxy

ionic gull
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well.. there you go 😃

sinful trout
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thanks 😄

slim hatch
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Why Cornelius shows up here if he isn't here to answer lore?!

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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

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Wait

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He is project manager

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Slams tentacle cracking the table

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We need more lore! MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE!

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Solid

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Pieces of Lore!

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Or we riot!

stiff vector
sinful trout
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ESS

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ESSENCE

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GO

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BACK

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TO

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SLEEP

slim hatch
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😦

sinful trout
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BAD ESSY

slim hatch
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Sorry my Essy Sense tingled.

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Slithers back to bed Always like that....

rotund ferry
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i need to learn the lore of this game

sinful trout
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its really good. if you want to learn more read the pinned posts!

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if youre still hungry after that? try checking out the fandom site, as well as the hunt official site under media/story

rotund ferry
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aye! will do!

sinful trout
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hope to see you back soon!

rotund ferry
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is there like still more to be discovered?

sinful trout
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oh yes

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oh lord yes

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we are currently working on a vote to see what questions get answered

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if you havent already go vote!

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(hint: its in pinned messages

rotund ferry
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oh i will check it out! i'm like so interested in the lore of this game, bc today i was in a game and just looked around the environment and i was amazed on the details and want to know like what is going on!

sinful trout
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oh yeah, its crazy detailed

rotund ferry
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yeah! like all the picture frames the building and even the monster it's honestly leaves me to question everything of the game aha!

slim hatch
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@sinful trout Just in case.... Sorry Jusin Case once the pick is done and answered make sure it's removed as the answers are to be documented.

sinful trout
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will do ess

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@rotund ferry and thats good. question everything. the more questions the more answers we can get

slim hatch
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They capped at 3 this time

sinful trout
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enh

light hornet
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hi could a lore expert please answer this question for me

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whos a better kisser, the spider or the butcher and why?

sinful trout
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spider, because the spider straddles you while it does it.

light hornet
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I see, thank you for your insight

sinful trout
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also it makes noises

forest condor
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@sinful trout @slim hatch if you have time to add a question to the list could you ask for clarification on what it means that were banishing the bosses back to hell?

rotund ferry
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Always wondered how do they get these "powers"

plush kindle
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By getting jiggy with it

forest condor
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A ritual of which we don't know much about

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So many questions and no lore pieces

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I'm beginning to know how essense feels

sinful trout
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it means were sending the abomination back to its dimention. then taking a particular organ

forest condor
#

But it completely throws out the idea that it's a "shaped" human

sinful trout
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i think at that point its more demon than human

forest condor
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Yeah, but that confused the idea that the spider is part human and the Meatheads are shaped humans, because the butcher is just the meathead*2

sinful trout
#

where did you hear that?

forest condor
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And if the butcher isn't human what are meatheads

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I guess we'll find out if question 1 gets answered

sinful trout
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i mean not much is known about banishing in general

forest condor
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Sadly

sick cove
#

Dammit, we missed our chance to ask important duck related questions

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Also imma need a source on this "the butcher isnt human" thing

plush kindle
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Are the crows and ducks we see in the bayou "infected"?