#lore-discussion
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Cool cause that's an interesting thing not mentioned in the text on the website, if it ever gets an edit it should be put in there
That the hunter needs to say close to keep the connection
So I was thinking about that. When we close the last rift, it DOES close. There’s nothing particularly special, nor is there a wild projection of power that continually flows out of it. I COULD be reading too much into it, but maybe when that last rift is closed, we draw out the remainder of the WS before it closes and attach it to our hunter. After that, it’s brought into our world and attached to the hunter that drew it out in the closing ritual or the hunter that kills him. It’s bound to the rift in some manner, but since it closes like the others, maybe it’s actually been extracted.
We never really see the WS physically, outside of the victory animation that seems to come from within the hunter.
As of right now, I’m thinking the process looks something like this.
-Close 3 rifts to concentrate the WS’s power to one rift.
-Extract the WS and close the last rift. This also prevents anything else from sneaking through the rift, so it makes sense to close it after you have the WS.
-Though you carry the WS, you must absorb it over time.
-Salvation.
Hmmm...
One theory could be that closing the rifts links you as a conduit of the wellspring's and you use that to extract it
Basically let it flow through you
Or it could be an animation thing and they just didn't want to code in a final Animation for when you close it
The reason it doesn’t vanish entirely when the WS carrier dies could be because the rift is closed and it might need a host to exist in our dimension. Maybe the reason it jumps from hunter to hunter is the closing ritual contains it to that area, which is why you must remain in the area and why it doesn’t just disappear when you die.
Just some speculation.
Hmm, a sort of ritual makes sense
Ah, you’re right. The conduit trait lends some credit to your point.
Simaler to the banish ritual
I didn't even consider that trait, (even with my word choice) but that is a good point
Well the trait itself implies that rifts can have some kind of interaction and impact on hunters outside of the cost of being able to close them. It may be possible the nature of the WS allows a hunter to act as its conduit naturally.
Like a reverse clue, open a clue and get health, close a rifts and get power
Although there might be a different way and the rifts animation just didn't change
But conduit makes more sense
I had the same thought. That’s why I prefaced my speculation by saying I could be looking too much at an early access game mode for my info lol It’s subject to change I’m sure, but that’s all I have to work with crafting theory on it atm.
I think we’re on the same page though.
Yeah, and it while the game may be in early the lore isn't, and some of the lore will probably become clearer with the addition of new mechanics
Fingers crossed. Hopefully we’ll see more soon. I’m trying to keep from going too far out in speculation until we do, but I think you pointed out some interesting details I hadn’t considered on how hunters interact with rifts.
Any videos/reads you guys recomend on hunt's lore/setting
@clever spindle check the pinned post over in the hardcore lore for most of the confirmed stuff. I haven’t watched enough videos to recommend anything yet.
Check out the main site, all you need is there
@clever spindle
Got home from work thanks guys gonna have some relaxation now with some good ol' lore
enjoy!
ducks
We got a live one chief, fine lets tackle ducks, they're there as eyes for the shaper and a way to boobytrap the way to the bosses
We've lost them... @slim hatch
I refuse to talk about ducks anymore
He is no longer on discord not sure why but for some reason either people were tagging him too much, he needs to focus on the books or that minor tint of guilt i feel in my heart is there for a reason.
does anyone have a link to a source to what everyone is talking about because i have no clue what people are talking about
like a word document that has a summary
Nobody give him any info!
@rotund ferry hey come over, my webcam is uncovered 😉
Let's keep it appropriate. 😃
The questions is still up
What exactly you want to know all? Everything about the lore is in the pinned messages here
Or what name you wanted to know?
FabFab
An unimportant, not lore related person.
He said, lying through his teeth
Well,what we so far have been given in terms of source of monsters,info on hunters
There is a list of named hunters that are mentioned in the lore if that is what you want.
The list is in the pined messages
For instance, who is Dr. Reed
Ok, there I can't tell you much. I think he is some kind of the creator of what happens in hunt. But don't take me there. I don't know a lot about the lore.
Ok, @sinful trout can help you more. 😃
Who is Dr reed. For now he's simply a doctor who went mad
how do we know this
But some speculate he transformed into something more. What exactly more we don't know. We know for certain he did not transform into the spider. As example spider has 2 human legs where it's confirmed that reed cut off his leg.
If you're looking to read more about his descent into madness. You can read more here https://www.huntshowdown.com/news/the-trials-of-dr-reed
Was the spider not made up of mulitple faces previously
No. There is one singular face in the spider. But we know there is more to it there is far too much on the spider to be considered humanaterial
Of course I'm always down to jump in a group chat to answer all your questions
Is it a problem to talk on this? or is it preferable
How do you mean?
I mean talking is much easier than typing
hmmmm
cant blow my cover so maybe
In the doctors notes his language transitionsed into something else
its an anagram
Dsrow no het gepa a a
for whayt i believe to be (if i remember correctly) words on the page
I can never undertand how people decypher anagrams
"i feel as if they try to take root. words on the page (possible a h a
so wait what does it translate to
ah
So he still had the mental capacity to create an anagram
why tho
sort of
its not exactly like he was trying to speak in anagrams
its as if im here. when i get excited i make many typos. more so when im sick os my wrods usaualy ned up klie thsi
(as my words usually end up like this)
ok i see
seems a little too sudden for that
Also the spider has been suspected to be him,but there were 2 legs and he cut his off
its possible reed was possessed by something and he could only really break through for a simple moment but it was not without a struggle. its possible reed was trying to tell this to the aha through some sort of code. "i feel as if they try to take root" and the last part "words on the page a a" could have been him actually trying to signify to the aha (this isnt me i dont know whats happening but something has taken root inside me,"
exactly. its also been confirmed by the lore writer for hunt showdown
but here is the thing about hunt lore that makes it unique to any other lore type.
yes?
its all perspective wise. i.e there was only one butcher. one spider. each hunt is actually the same story being told by a different person
has that been confirmed
so what one person says. it could be true. or it could be his twisted perception of the idea. and yes. it has
is the hunt the only time people have entered the area since the plague or something
yeah. the hunt of stillwater bayou is an event of which hunters made first contact with the event.
why everyone starts all at once. ill give you a hint (not everything is lore related. its a game mechanic)
how do we know that everyone failed and a second wave was sent
do not know
how would the hunters know that there is a spider to look for or a butcher
its not in waves. hunters are sent for a contract and they are sent constantly until the contract has been fufilled
why is it then only 10 at a time
game mechanic
why could people not join a game yet
no lore related.
ok
its basically to keep the games less crowded
in the doctors diarys he says that he looks at the medicine that he gives
that is when he goes into madness
not exactly
well.
thats the first sign of infection yes
but hes been administering that medicine for what seems to be a long time. why would it just start now
the first sign of him becoming infected is the day after he performed an autopsy
how did he get this medicine
so he was suprised at the medicine he made
we can only assime its the same medicint
look at the photo
notice the farthest point that the spill reached? its the EXACT shape of an armoureds big arm
and under that there is barbed insect legs of some sort
has this photo been confirmed as lore
its from the hunt showdown website under lore... so id assume so
Could it not be that people in that area have something in them that caused them to become infected via contact or something
how the cutrse began to infect people isnt known. we dont know how it started, but i believe the trials of dr reed are the closest thing we have documented to the beginning
when he first started documenting in his diary how many days was it into the infection
all we know is that its early.
the trials of reed have actually given us a lot of lore. for example when the sickness takes over then the infected lose all organs within the first 2 days and it is replaced by moths.
moths 100 not the source of it
we know the disease COULD be transmitted by moths. we already know bloodborne contact is enough as well
define affected
they are hit by zombies but are gucci
then yes, they are not affected for some reason. its also possible that everyone in the area of stilwater was infected. they just didnt know it yet
almost like a disease that was silent until another compound came into effect
John hayward H.
theres more than just one event
the aha didnt just create itself for a one time issue. theres been events in 1885 theres been some before that and i think it was another in 1892 (not sure about that one)
what is the aha again?
theres been poultergeists, djinns, spiders and butchers as far as were aware.
we believe the spider was made from an entity we call the sculptor
and you think that reed may be the sculptor
because we have no info on the sculptor
i think so yes
has the water demon contributed to the lore yet?
not yet
also last q what are true deck cards
we dont know a whole lot about them
theyre tarot cards with special properties
tarot?
yeah, fortune telling cards
ofc 😃 anytime
anything major that I have missed?
Also interesting that the doctor mentions the aha even though it would have not existed or they would not have known about it
as i said
thats purely speculation
it could be he was trying to say anna or always
we dont know what he was trying to say
Btw a quick correction for @sinful trout, and @rotund ferry, the 10 hunters thing has been mentioned in lore documents, "ten Hunters total: marks scored in their flesh, readying firearms, thirsty for blood."
So there was lore written onto the game emchanic, perhaps the contract was only sent to ten hunters
hmmm, reading up on the texts I've noticed this as well, "You mark off Alice Farm as having harbored nothing more than a trace of your target." could it be that the targets move through the map and leave behind those clues? And the clue at every compound thing is a game mechanic?
"It was lucky that this time there was only one target" another indication that these contracts are fufilled regularaly and there are more bosses than just these two
also, watching the devil in the churchyard trailer and noticed these words in it, has this been discussed yet?
looks like it could be lyrics, but in a different language
Sure, that's be great
but it's probably just lyrics
so if it's that then don't waste too much time
And here picture where every letter fits to the symbol. (I hope the letters are in the same order as the symbols)
it should be, or else it's just letters in random position to other "letters'
'Moun Ki Regr Nan Siel La'
I think it is that. But some of the symbols are pretty similar. I try playing around with the lightning and shadows to get maybe a few better symbols.
It means people in the salt
@forest condor @stiff vector this has been decided by fajeth, our resident voynich translator
Decoded*
This: 'moun ki regr nan siel' means in english: 'people regret in the soul'
@forest condor and as for the correction. oh yeah. i knew that but for some reason i forgot it. man i need a refresher on all the web stuff. i used to know it all by heart
@stiff vector where did the La come from
Oh, yeah. I was wrong. It really means what you say. The La was right.
Ah ok
I'm thunjing
So there is fresh water in the bayou, it not salty, I don't know how common salt was back in the day but I don't think in the 1800 it was common because if trade routes.
Salt is also associated with fighting demons or cleansing them
Fajeth | Steven08/16/2018
Hey guys, thanks for the invite.
Let me explain what I did.
I created a full Voynich alphabet on the huntshowdown.com website. I just used their Voynich class.
(<p class="voynich">Text appears in Voynich letters</p>)
After that I snipped the 9 textparts from the Devil in the Churchyard video. I roughly translated the first 2 and ran those lines
through google.
They matched with Revelation 12:12 in Haitian Creole. I copied the whole 12:12 onto the website, used the Voynich class again and matched them with the remaining 7 video textsnippets. They all fit perfectly.
Revelation 12:12 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+12%3A12&version=KJV)
Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.
Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.(edited)
Bible Gateway
Bible Gateway passage: Revelation 12:12 - King James Version
Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Rooftop Korean08/16/2018
i fucking love you
me and rooftop dont agree on much. but when we both saw this we shared a love for fajeth
Looking at that
The plague must only be for a short while because it says the devil does not have long
Salt in the 19th & early 20th century was a major commodity, to answer your question. Not as common as or widely traded as it is today, but it’s likely you could buy it from a general store near a major coastal town like New Orleans.
I think the lettering and words are more of a connection than a literal transaltion of the events that happened
and reading what I just put I realise i described how writing works
also A few put it down to just being something in the water… foreboding of a way the curse can be transfered!?!?!!?
Exerpt from The History of Healing-Waters church
Well that’s something that’s had me thinking since I first started posting here. How does the disease function? Is it entirely coincidental, a plague that popped up the Sculptor was able to capitalize on? Or is it a disease that the Sculptor created? Could it be less of a disease and more of a supernatural corruption that wears down the mind as a prelude to possession instead?
Waterborne pathogens can spread very quickly, particularly if major fresh water sources are contaminated- potentially infecting the animals that drink from it as well. My first thought was to note the hellhounds and water devils, but horses and chickens are noticeably unaffected.
It seems to me that the hellhounds and grunts are more along the lines of supernatural possessions/reanimation.
Ok so I was interested in how the moths are in the subjects internal organs area. It got me thinking.
This was set in the louisiana bayou correct me if I am wrong
Yes
I did some researching and found out that there is a moth (calyptra) that is known as the vampire moth. It's origins come from southern Europe and has been moving up into northern Europe. If a few of the moths landed in France or around there, they could have been transported to america
It also got me thinking that the doctor fell sick when he opened the body. What if a moth had bitten him and transferred the sickness
Louisiana was originally supposed to be French because of the French helping Americans get their independence
Did you read pinned posts?
@rotund ferry Sorry man I’m asking since you ask a lot but some answers are in the pins.
Nah i just say read all pinned posts first
Anyways, so also if the moths became mutated in some way with flies of the swamp, there are flies that lay eggs in a human. The moths would be a very easy of spreading the plague. It could have also been mutates that the larva went through the bloodstream and landed in the stomach. Then they could feed on the inside for sustenance and grow into cacoons in a rapid rate.
Also one of the symptoms of the moth biting someone is a rash. It could explain why hunters have rash's here and there but are not affected by the sickness
Sores belt my arms. The flesh crawls and bleeds. A moth flutters at my ear.
Is the new audio tearing a part of the lore? like hell is coming through your headphones?
Ha ha ha door is that way....
But to envoke real hell and in turn rage how else would they achieve this
?
I mean hats off Crytek you nailed it on this one
how does the spider become the spider
when a man and a woman love each other very much
ffs
currently we dont REALLY know. up to this point we've assumed that an entity called the sculptor has made it from a human. all the lore writers weve come across havent stopped this thought either
@sinful trout Don't forget Character Creation video
We know for a fact it's formerly a human
what we don't know is who it is.
Btw, where can i find more lore?
I have read all the wiki, the incident report, and the hunter desk on the site
Can i find more somewhere?
Have you read the pinned messages here?
=.=
@slim hatch I remember the video. I'm just saying we don't know that the sculptor made the spider
It's actually also confirmed that at present there is only one entity at play (There are more) but at present only Sculptor
That was hinted at in the page where we got the name from
We have been working on a 2nd QnA for quite some time and as at present we probably won't be able to have another session with a writer, this is the view only version where you can see all the questions and answers we received
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HTkRtmbIAySC2EKmphECRGSbuOAnu4i_f52Ts9wVGDQ/edit?usp=sharing
@proper cradle Could you do me a favour and pin this one?
❤

😏
No face 
If you cum across Fasih tell him I love him and wait for him every night.... With that exact tentacle 
CHEESE AND RICE
how does that have to do with the lore
is it a new consumable or something
or something found iin a house?
or is it what you are eating
cheese and rice is a alternative to saying jesus christ. as im trying to swear less (seeing as it makes people blow up)
that would be epic
Whats the diference betwen both lore channels?
The hardcore channel is full of var'uun being smart. This one is var'uun eating cheese, rice, and ducks
I say we put a hold on hunting abominations and hunt crows and ducks to extinction
shh were trying to keep var'uun happy so no ducks
he can't understand this when you use one asterisk
like John Cena he can't see this
No ducks? But they are obviously the main pieces of in game lore we have!
Its a sacrifice worth making
@rotund ferry If you haven't read i suggest you read 2nd QnA
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Maybe repost your theory?
Point was maybe there was information that would help you with your theory.
@forest condor wait, I make smart comments?
@sinful trout "this belongs in casual" the best choice you've made,
Because how else would us peasants get our hands on this elusive lore
But legit you're one of the best people with lore here (of course essense is in that boat too)
Bullshit I'm evil bitch with a whip just keeping an eye on you kids.
***Cracks whip at @forest condor ***
What if there were xp for burning all those crows and chicken/dog pens
I burn them so many but I dont get anything...
Or if you hit a crow or duck with a gun and it flies away... I hit some in the air also
OWO
***Sprays furry away at @forest condor ***
@forest condor sorry
@forest condor I am LITTERALLY the least productive one here. Thanks for the nightmares though @slim hatch . Why is there always so much BDSM in lore discussion
Because it fits what I’m
shudders
Thanks for the cure @slim hatch it really healed me!!
You know the lore tho, and you've helped people get situated here, and that's a good thing @sinful trout
Honestly I don't know as much as people let on. I've actually been thinking of getting essence to drop me from hardcore until I refresh my memory. But then I thought about it and I decided to just re-read everything on my breaks.
And to be frank I love coming to lore discussion. It's a light talking about lore. It's probably my favorite channel in all of hunt official, it's you blankstards that get me thinking about different angles and it's enjoyable to come up with close theories that are far strung but end up having truth.
Same. I appreciate everyone here helping me dig into the lore. Both Ess & Var have been very helpful in steering me in the right direction. It’s nice to just jump in here and brainstorm on what’s shaping up to be a world filled with rich lore and meaning behind everything we see in the game.
I also appreciate the deep lore team undertaking the fowl investigation. 🦆
I just love this chat, it's been getting me to come back every day and just talk about ideas with like minded people, it's just such a good way to do lore, I've been loving it here, keep it up
=.= People are thankful Hissssssss
Ugh compliments. The literal bane of my existence.
@forest condor @late tinsel seriously though. Thank you guys. It's the same two people when I come back and because I see either of your names I know the conversation will be civil and somewhat on topic
👉👉
Thanks @sinful trout, it means a lot and now, ducks
What exactly is QuickPlay in the lore?
hey @sand elbow there is an article about it on the hunt website! it talks of rifts and wellsprings you cant miss it. ill link it soon if you cant find it
did you find it?@sand elbow
gotchu 😄
Read pinned posts!
In all honesty this should just be the name of this chat
just change the description
I can't
And I'd ask to pin a post saying read pinned posts but in all honesty
THAT WOULDNT EVEN GET READ (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
wat
?
I don't think that comment should be in this channel @eager scaffold
Oof
Banned
rip
wtf
Offf
Good to know the automod still works
what in the goddamn just happened?
Guy jumped in. Guy got mad. Guy got banned. All in the matter of 30 seconds...
@chilly zealot in the last 5 chats I looked at you're within the last 5 comments on each... YOURE EVERYWHERE
He left himself
even better
oh no
Oof. So he just mic dropped some incomprehensible nonsence and then yeeted
Or is it a cover up @random lava
he shot himself
@random lava can you change the description to read pinned posts? I'm not kidding.
I cannot. I'll ask maq tho
Trust me. When you're that flipping terrifying. You're the boss.
To both?
@elfin laurel can you change it with addition to “Read pinned posts”
What was 2nd thing?
But we do absolutely need that change since people ignore it
Done it
❤
Maq is moving at the speed of sound

dammit
Wait isn't that gif from that depressing anime music video
No clue. I don't watch sad weeb shit. Only cool weeb shit
@plush kindle It's from ME ME ME! and @sinful trout That shit fucking lit to the point where initially YT didn't allow it until it became a huge ass hit so they were forced to let it in (because of 18+ content)
I'll check it later then.
Litterally every flipping day
I'm obsessed, it's my favorite game to date
This should be in hunting grounds I think.
Zoinks. Das a lot of hourz
😏
we should play sometime, though I only have 175 : (
Feel free to drop me dm reminder tomorrow and we can figure it out @forest condor
sure thing!
same goes to me @forest condor i play on three servers with minimal ping. us-east us-west and EU
Im also kind obsessed with this game
It has everything i love
Even thought im garbage at it
You'll get better, there's always a learning curve for these things, I'm glad you like it though! (also lore chat is best chat)
I already improved 5fold just by rethinking how i play the game
The first match i "clicked" i got one kill, and the only reason i didnt get the other was that a hive memed me
holy shit those things are annoying,
but it's so satisfying to kill someone being swarmed
My first kill against one of then was in melee
I accidentally ran into it then smashed her with my shotgun
I know it's not common for you. But there is a #hunt-general channel. 😛
Pls no buli
cool, so lore, ummm, bee lady gets scooped while alive and put into jelly bottles, this creates hive bombs
Worse job in the universe if you ask me
Arent the green wasps supernatural?
Like, ghosts?
no, they're just steeped in poision and the devs wanted you to know that without becoming....aquainted with them
No like, i dont mean that then being green makes then ghosts
But i swear i read somewhere they were ghost wasps
Reminder water devils ate all crocodiles
F
Makes sense about the crocs : (, also if you find where you read it @ me
Sure
"Scognamillio thinks it feels like an evolution of a simpler form; in this case a person possessed by some kind of insect spirit eventually turning the body into a hive itself. Harold Black's book includes pieces of a hunter's describing this thing."
@forest condor
oh right, that's the "shaper" we've been trying to discover, it's the thing that caused this affliction in the bayous
it can do a possess and can do a destroy
but all we really know is that it can create these monsters and specifically create the bosses, there is some connection with hell but we haven't dug much farther than that
Is the shaper a singular entity or are there multiple
this one is a single entity, there have been other instances of a shaper in the past but this one is singular
we're pretty sure
but it is powerful and able to change and possess many entities at once
Like people?
How long does it take for the NPCs to mutate
this is the only thing we have regarding any kind of time frame
What even is hell in hunt?
I think it's the calssical sense of hell but twisted with an parellel universe
It is twisted since you know literal demons are escaping
something like that
i ment more like combined
(also sorry for the typos, I type faster than i should sometimes)
Are the grunts reanimated corpses or possessed people?
I beleve it's possessed people with the bosses being a bit special in those regards
I asked a while ago about the bosses connection to hell, weather or not banishing the bosses brought them BACK to hell, and I was told I was right in several ways
So all the monsters are people unlucky enough to get possessed?
Is the bayou the only affected area?
Don't think so
it's more an affliction than possession, it's been described as a plague in the way it seems to spread but we don't know that much yet, and the whole world is affected in different ways by different events, I.E. the Sinners, a foreign (Probable Muslum) group of hunters
There are hunter associations from other countries
^
All of the russian equipment we have are from russian association
The sinners are a group of hunters aren't they?
Wasn't the legendaruly hunter's partner part of the sinners?
Oh, i want to talk about the sinners
They are that group that went to stay a "djinn" for 40 cards right?
Read the caldwell letter in the in-game book, it's neat
I made that connection by myself
Yay
Also, what does the graffiti in 77 means?
In new york
idk about the 77 yet, hasn't been enough on that to warrent any real conclusion, but speculate away
and I believe so about the Djinn
Isn't there a story about a legendary hunter with a daughter?
His partner was part of the sinners wasn't he
Ye
yeah, Sinan "the gun poet"
he was a Sinner
Can't believe that's a year away
lol
Also, did a german regiment actualy disapear in Louisiana?
Or it was just their journal?
hmmm, where is this?
Anybody know what this thing is?
Looks like an evil dream catcher. Maybe a nightmare catcher? 😏
or maybe some poor peasant tried to build a tv antenna
The dream catchers i know of are circular with string webbing across the circle portion and feathers hanging from the bottom. Not saying its not a dream catcher because i certainly don't know every variation and i got a dream catcher vibe from it as well when i first looked at it. But i think it might be something else. That is what I think atlest.
The "TV antenna" 
wondering if the bits on the ends are some sort of meaningful symbols
well he was ahead of his time ok
@undone forge It's one of those charms
Not an expert on the charms but probably a spirit warder or something like that
yeah that was my initial thought as well, some sort of ward
since it looks like someone was camped out up there
Maybe it's maybelline
Allright let's move this to #off-topic
no u
Nixa has derailed it time to pack up
alright Nixa, let's move this to #off-topic or #hunt-general
let's try to get back on topic here
so...
DUCKS
=.=
what do we know about them?
and what do they know about us?

I was so proud for a moment.
@burnt orchid it's safe to assume if a journal that a regiment was protecting has been lost then the entire regiment was lost.
I think Klayn's wondering more if the regiment was actually in Louisiana
and if that's where they went missing
They lionsgiele regiment went missing in Chicago, but evidence suggests they fled further south into new orleans
ok yeah upon re-reading I think he was just wondering what you answered, about whether or not they disappeared in general
Is there any more info on the diary/journal that's mentioned though?
"As the Lord wanted, an encounter with a dragon brought me a new track that leads to the south, into the swamps of Louisiana. The worrisome stories about the incidents at this godforsaken place that were passed along to me, suggest to me again that more than just the diary was lost.
Because of this I’m going to turn my back on Chicago in the next few days and purchased passage with the Union Pacific Railway to Saint Louis."
And not that I've seen. Only other diary mentioned is Harold blacks diary which seems to be a renowned guide to monsters
Is Harold mentioned anywhere else other than here? "Scognamillio thinks it feels like an evolution of a simpler form; in this case a person possessed by some kind of insect spirit eventually turning the body into a hive itself. Harold Black's book includes pieces of a hunter's describing this thing"
Nope
What was that regiment doing in the US?
@burnt orchid During the American Revolution, there were many German-speaking states loosely unified under the Holy Roman Empire. And they tend to hire/loan some of their soldery to the british!
btw. I could not find any traces of a "Löwenschild"-Regiment in North America.
But one existed with the austrian army!^^
Basically. Any hunters organization could attend any hunt. So in the Louisiana event there is French and German names in the mix.
I.e John hayward was American (I believe) but sinan was Turkish. They would have to cross hunts soner or later
How common is the knowledge of what is going on?
The world doenst seen to be changing much compared to ours
It’s being covered up according to Louisiana papers
Please let the next frame just be blood everywhere
and the circle is completed
sigh
this doesnt belong here @rotund ferry @random lava
there might be important lore related content in it tho
you'll have to watch it to find out 😉
jk he's spamming, ignore it
I mean the dingdong is just an asshole
has this image taked from the ending of the trials of DR Reed been discussed yet?
i've "enhanced" it a bit
^this is from what/where/huh?
It was at the end, I think this is definitive proof Reed isn't the spider, as if we needed more.
but maybe he became a hive
Reminds me of a grunt
Male hive
Can some one decipher this bit ? :- I flee sa fi tyeh ytr ot ekta orot. Dsrow no het gepa a a
Looks like drifting into jibberish, possibly like a creole dialect of Aklo or something 😛 idk
"I feel as if they try to take root. Words on the page a a" @rocky bloom @undone forge
Why did this lore channel turn into a Goblin slayer channel 
I believe it is his stating that the moths are beginning to dig into him, "try[ing] to take root"
and possibly feed on his innards as referenced by the one dead man's innards only consisting of moths
Or, we saw the early stages of a hive and he's now becoming one
I mean possible, but moths dont have stingers
But they can bite
Unless he just calls then moths in his delusion? Though he is a doctor
I suppose
But "hive" implies stinging insects
For me at least
A lot of implications aren't what they imply
Of course, i just find the most direct conclusions to be the most precise a lot of the time
Though it really doesnt explain who or where he is currently
Perhaps he is even an unnamed and insignifigant corpse with the lot of them, wouldn't surprise me in the end
I'd assume that too, but with the lore texts and those mention of moths it reminds us we don't truly know what they arr
Yeah, but people don't normally become zombies, it's honestly the best theory we have as there are no mentions of other insects in regards to people's bodies
But we have to wait for those lore books to come out
Possibly
But im willing to believe the wasps and the moths are both seperate of eachother
Just through my own conclusions
Oh wait
It belches flies through a cavity in its throat.
We're both wrong I think
Im with arpy on this one. Moths do seem to have a significant role in this event. However many have called the hives insects bees but if you get close ups of the hive insects they look like they have defined wings like moths. (I'm the one who collects them for hive bombs) but we are also certain that it is moths that have burrowed into the flesh of Dr reeds victims. "The infection is potent. Odd. I began an autopsy yet the corpse—but two hours dead—contained only moths. Living moths and no organs." -reed himself.
That text proves that moths burrow into organs and begin to make a hospitible environment for themselves within human hosts. Further insisting that hives COULD be moths. However there's another piece that mentions flies as arpy earlier mentioned. But moths are like flies so it's possible this narrator just called them that. @forest condor @fathom badge
On another note unreliable narrator. What you call a blackfly I call a moth. They both bite. They both fly
New boss maybe?
Mothboi
If u have a lantern u take extra damage
The bugs on the hive look like big ass bettles tho
"flies" could be used as a general term to describe any flying insect in this sense
also, it's possible they're poisonous moths
But in any case, they are the workings of whatever evil is corrupting everything else
not just normal moths
demon moths
IMPORTANT LORE BREAKTHROUGH
this authentic drawing from Harold Black's Journal refers to them as bees ^
Yes
inb4 "stop filling lore-discussion with memes"
I got my PhD in Hunt Loreology at Lawson State University, does this look like a meme to you?
The first picture is just a digitally recreated remaster of Harold's original sketch
So, what does this tell us
- Hive gf is canon
- Harold has hive gf refer to the insects as bees
2.0.1) This does not necessarily mean that they are bees, however - he could have mistaken them for bees
@sinful trout good point about the unreliable narrator, (was wondering why the lore chat had a legit direction till I looked at your name, nice new picture btw)
And this kids is why we need #lore-discussion-hardcore
(for real It's looking better and better)
@sick cove stop filling lore discussion with me es
@forest condor thanks! Buddy of mine made it for me. It's actually what Var'uun looks like
Hey, it looks legit, rember that unreliable narrative theme?
Yeah. What about it
@forest condor DONT LEAVE ME HANGING

He was going to reveal all of the truths but he wasn't fast enough @sinful trout
RIP
Sorry I was at a thing, @sinful trout. I was saying that he could be remembering the events differdntly, or straight up lying, but still is true to Hunt's lore
We can't be sure until fasih comes back
🤔
Also disclaimer imagine a massive /s around the entirety of my post history today
They could be botfy's?
There are a couple of types of botfly and, unluckily for us, one of them specifically targets humans. The human botfly is a fly that sort of looks like a bumblebee, and while it doesn't feed on human flesh, or even eat at all, its larvae certainly do. In order to make sure that its offspring get fed, human botflies use our bodies as a perfect place to incubate their eggs and maggots. That being said, botflies don't put their eggs inside us themselves!
Botflies will first lay their eggs on mosquitos or ticks, and then when a person is bitten by one of these insects, the eggs and larvae make their way under our skin! The maggots burrow down and down, leaving a hole behind them to breathe through while they feed on our blood and tissue. Someone infected with the larvae may feel them wiggling around inside their skin. Luckily, they leave on their own after about eight weeks, but during that time, it's still a very creepy visitor.
Or there are screwworm flies, There are two types of screworm fly, the Old World screwworm fly and the New World screwworm fly. Both are pretty damn terrifying in their own ways, and they have been known to show up in Florida. In general, these worms seek out open wounds, then lay their eggs in or around the wound before it seals over, then the maggots gestate inside. And they don't really care if you're an animal or a human, as long as your body is warm.
Once the eggs hatch, the maggots start to thrive inside you, and they seek out any small or secluded area to grow. In one horrifying case, the flesh-eating maggots gave one British woman a lifetime of nightmares in 2013. Upon getting home from a visit to Peru, the woman said she started experiencing headaches and shooting pains down the side of her face. Then there was a strange discharge from one ear. When doctors examined her, they found that her ear was full of flesh-eating maggots from the screwworm fly.
These are quotes btw im not reciting this by memory lol
@urban burrow did they eat her brain?
well its a duck boat....but hey we can leave the boat part out haha
Oof
as that is true @urban burrow the only real thing we have to go off of is reed saying moths and some other guy saying flies. im more leaning towards the medical proffesisionals POV but thats just me
I'd lean towards whoever's the better entomologist but y'know
But we also have to look at it on a meta level
The lore writers would need to deliver us the info they want
I do think those are moths and or flies
New enemy maybe?
They did describe an armored as having the flies so who knows
source?
step, and what you took for a twisted stump lurches and chokes. It belches flies through a cavity in its throat.
Can't mistake a hive for a stump even in the dark
(also is it just me or is the unreliable narrative thing an excuse for a change in lore?)
Cause if so it's clever
@sinful trout
i dont think so. i like the style becaus eits more realistic. you hear stories but you cant be sure weather or not theyre true
amd @forest condor it could have been a lying down zed
thats what i always thought
Hmm I guess, it does take place at night so maybe.
@forest condor On ducks you might use water dinamite I guess but its a waste
Ooh we talking duck lore again?
new trait, duck dyno, tie a big dynamite bundle to a duck and fly it at the enimies
@forest condor you disappointed us
What is "devil in the churchyard" about?
Hey guys, I found this kind of hidden room at port reeker, just posting a screenshot so you guys can check it out if you didn't know it was there (I for sure did not) https://imgur.com/a/LFTF3ZZ
U found Duckenstein Gz
Nice
Yeah it used to be just a manaquin with a duck head. With the new update it morphed
@forest condor WE TRUSTED YOU
Wait, so ducks did kinda fit into the lore a bit?
...
@sinful trout in 0.100 it was just a duck laying on the table
Stop with the fucking ducks you
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I'm gonna go search for some piece of lore to redeem myself
Huff and Elwood Finch seem to be collegues
boom
No shit sherlock
😦
okay, is it possable that clues are traces of when the boss resided in different compounds?
"You mark off Alice Farm as having harbored nothing more than a trace of your target. In light of the revelation, you strike through two more."
also in response to the earlier discussion of the hive lying down, "and what you took for a twisted stump lurches and chokes."
It coudn't have lurched if it was lying down
You can lurch your body in a half sitting position if you're lying down. My assumption is that the hunter stepped on it's stomach and moths came to his throat forcing it to choke
ohh okay, I didn't read it like that, I can see how you got it
the bit with the other hunter shooting confused me a bit
Oh yeah. It was a solid one shot kill I think
I'm just wondering if the shot killed the hive or if it was some different guy, cause in my head the narrator is walking through some woods and sees the battle go down, cause if he stepped on it then retreated, the hunter who shot the hive would have seen him
How do you know he was shooting at the zed?
All it says was "a shot rang out and then it occurred to me, there's no way to know that it's gone"
Yeah I was thinking about that, he was close enough to hear a splash but it's left a bit ambiguous. Probably he's hoping the hive would move towards the shot
in all honesty though. do you ever know if the enemy is coming back towards you or away? not really. the narrator has a point in being afraid of the zed
also. never been said its a hive.
even typical zeds have moths inside them
Ohh I took the "spewed flies" to be referring to hives. Unreliable narrators and their misuse of fauna
yeppp
how did the whole, infection, demon thing start anyways?
with the sculptor. basically a portal opened up and this thing passed through and began to wreak havok. weather it opened up a portal or weather theres a cult dedicated to helping them through is currently unknown
the sculptor being one of a few archtypes of beings the hunters have encountered in the past, the sculptor being the current threat. it's pretty spoopy and can change things, hence the name
Neat
Can some lore wizard gimme the lowdown on why people are getting sucked into/coming out of trees?
?
hes memeing on a bug arpy
ahh, shame on you @wooden patrol
I saw a dude that was like, near the base of a tree, but he was like, fused with it
Not memeing
Still had a cowboy hat on. Think it was on Lawson Delta
Oof
Screenshot?
Pretty sure it's the one outside Cyprus huts.
That's a Easter egg to Groot I'm pretty sure
Hi 😃
@signal heart working fine, what's up?
Oh fancy meeting you hear(n)
Well it's been a while since we stopped by to say hello
Hi @stiff vector
that's true, word mine has been in overdrive recently
Seriously
Well, everybody (I guess to everybody who sees this later since there don't seem to be many folks around right now)...we had a question for you
GREETINGS. 😃
Anyway, so of course we still can't answer many questions as we've been sworn to secrecy, but thought if you all could compile, say, your top three questions for us, we wanted to see if we could maaaaybe free up some information for you
@sinful trout @slim hatch look, potential info
Greetings all - to introduce myself, I've been on the words / narrative team since the start (and lurking here for an age), but before now haven't dipped my oar into the Discord. So, if you have any questions or clarifications on the lore (yes, I've seen the doc), you can also address them to me! To be honest, I'll probably not answer them directly, but we are definitely factoring them into our work 😃
Hello @rotund ferry ! It's good to know you are lurking around and I'm glad you finally dipped in 😃 I'm sure there will be plenty of questions and clarifications from me but honestly I need to do a bit more digging and learning from what we already know before I have some super juicy ones. One thing I was wondering though is if there is a date or approximate time period that the AHA was established or was it even technically established or is it more of a secret society "I got a secret contract" kind of thing.
Nice to meet you
Oh but I'm not trying to take away one of the three questions from the community! I was just wondering to myself 😃
@undone forge we are definitely looking to further develop and explore the history of the AHA and similar organizations in upcoming content - personally the recent history of this is really interesting to me! As for answering your question, we're always inspired as much as possible by real history, so while I won't answer directly I think you'd get an approximate answer looking into the history of similar organizations / institutions / occult shit 😃
Awesome 🤠 Thank you @rotund ferry I really look forward to this! 👍
@random lava Thanks for bringing it to our attention
Thanks @random lava we got this
go on
The butcher.. is like a meathead right?
Like a daddy meathead. Correct?
Then how come the meatheads cant see or hear but the butcher can (almost perfectly)
Meatheads can hear just fine @rotund ferry
@sinful trout I'll point out this here 7.
7: why were the hunter unconscious in the beginning of a match in quick play? And why did they wake?
Considering based on lore texts
THey go there to save themselves
Why would they wake up...
Aka they went there willing they aren't dead men waking up
They are hunters near expiration that went to wellspring to save themselves
Rifts same as portals - 18. The clues in the game, are they a portal like the ones you mentioned in the QnA? Like for example could the clue be an unstable portal?
Answer: Yes, they are unstable portals.
Considering they do function in a similar matter it's fairly safe to assume they are type of unstable portals
Want to point it out
But yeah w/e writers pick out
We will need to make sure to document it
Q7s main purpose is to why are they unconscious?
If they went there willingly, then why not just start the game like every other match of bounty hunt? With hunters already standing at the ready?
I'll take responsibility for documenting.
@rotund ferry @signal heart could y'all check our character sheet and give it a seal of approval if everything is correct
I actually have a theory on why they wake up, could it be that they have succumbed to the influence of the damnation and the opening of the wellspring that drags them back to life?
Cause it seems like something that we could make some pretty good assumptions about without support from the lore team
Leaving other questions to be answered
^ That is a fairly plausible theory but we have no basis
Hence we need more info so we can actually have foundation on it
A theory without foundation is a hypothesis or speculation difference between the two is amount of basis
Hypothesis is based on evidence
Speculation isn't based on anything really
Theory is plausible hypothesis that can be in a way confirmed.
Okay, I get ya, I'm just looking at the questions and see some that are way less game changing than others lore wise, but the voting system is doing it's job there
Well to be frank
We can't ask questions based on nothing
So until they release until one book of lore
We are running on fumes
Oh definitely, I love that you guys are doing this vote thing, if the top voted questions are answered that would be great
You guys act like you've never woken up from sleeping on the ground in the woods before. 'rise up dead man' can be taken many ways
😃
^ Yeah you know never happened to me....
And you know it's just i don't know about you but Hunters are supposedly quite professional and rugged
So going in to save yourself just to pass out in a hostile area without a decent equipment set seems iffy to me
Because logically as a veteran hunter if i was going to save myself from damnation knowing damn well I might face even my former friends there I'd prepare for it like it was the end of the world. Tools, Guns, Ammunition, medicine because don't underestimate a human who has nothing to lose.
So yeah Huff's speech kinda contradicts what we see in-game
Could the QP we've been playing be a simaler situation to the bounty Hunter, it could be the story of the first wellspring
Yeah it could be
All the hunters could have fallen to damnation and been looted or something,
The wellspring opening could bring them back
Without proof there's no way to know but it is plausible based on what we know about bounty hunt
So it's fairly safe to assume that the QP that we see is one of the Wellspring occurrences not the first one not the last one considering time-ear wise it contradicts
Because if it was the first one equipment would be different
As the name is lost to history
I think that the curse means the hunter starts losing performance, and when they figure out whats going on they basically have nothing left
^ Ummmm no
I also think the appearance of a wellspring knocks out all cursed men nearby
Based on existing knowledge from QnA's and tests
Hunters are all far too well aware
of what is going on with them
Aint the curse a thing that only affects a few hunters?
We don't know because... Flips table screaming at the top of her lungs "BECAUSE THEY WON'T FUCKING GIVE US MORE LORE!!!"
No
All hunters with dark sight
All Hunters are affected it's the result of Dark Sight
And Dark Sight is basically part of initiation process
It's part of the burden affiliated with DS
There is a price they have to pay for receiving it and using it
Hence the very early observation we had with T3 having lesions and burns on their skin
We don't know if it's the only price though^
Which was confirmed by Huff's speech
"Putrid"
We don't even know if there are more abilities than just dark-sight
Up to this point we've assumed that extra power from bounties went towards traits, but it could go to something else
I though there was a discussion on this wayyyy back
Ummmm we know that bounty is a specific organ containing the beast's soul
Yet it contradicts the fact that we are sending them back to hell
And then there is contradiction
That "Hunters need bounty to survive"
Yet
Hunters can extract and live to fight another day
So
You know
Wheres the idea that hunters need the bounty said?
Okay you know what I'm actually getting pissed off here so i better eject myself from this discussion because i'm getting pissed not because of the discussion but because of the fucking lack of lore pieces.
Ah okay
I knew about that
- What are we actually picking up from the bosses? We get it’s a token but what actually is it?
Answer: it’s a unique part of their body containing part of their soul.
The idea that hunters need the bounty,(for reasons other than greed and power hunger) is new to me though
Hmm
So much to read through
Yeah
I've heard little about the true deck
Originally we assumed that they gave it to AHA in order to get the True deck
Which originally we assumed was able to save their souls
But based on true-deck lore piece
It seemed to well do what tarrot decks are supposed to do (Well not in our world but you get the point) Tell the future
Based on the new piece of Lore text, the hunter with the True Deck looking at Tower, is it safe to assume that True deck isn’t a salvation as we assumed initially but rather a tool to foresee your future? The hunter expected to die because from the true deck staring back at him was The Tower. And in Tarot Tower’s meaning is as follows "The Tower is commonly interpreted as meaning danger, crisis, sudden change, destruction, higher learning, and liberation. In the Rider-Waite deck, the top of The Tower is a crown, which symbolizes materialistic thought being bought cheap" -Essy
Answer: The True Deck is a tool and more. You’ll have to wait for more answers.
- Why do hunters die instantly the moment the timer on the contract expires?
Answer: To be technical, they don’t instantly die but we can just “cut to” their deaths. Let us say for now that it is not only the money they’re after.
Yeah that's about the best i can offer for now
I recall
There was an important incident
in 1666 i think
well somewhere in 1600's
I think it was in UK
But
It slipped by and don't think we have it documented
Nor even screenshotted
So
Grumbles FUCK!
So that was an excerpt from a shaper or other entity?
It might be reference to 1886 incident
Possibly
1886 incident was poltergeist case
Okay my blood is boiling
So
Pulls ejection lever "DON'T SAY ANYTHING OR I'LL BE BACK!"
👍
I'm back easy. Take a break
LORENIANS
BACKHANDS GET IT RIGHT
And it's a good theory arps. But my only issue is that we don't have any evidence to back up the death theory. I made this theory when qp first came out. That when hunters died during the hunt they were revived in a half dead state to find the wellspring. Once claimed everyone else falls silent as they were supposed to be but the wellspring carrier is free to go seek medical attention at finches
There's no backing. Hence why the question is there. If we vote on it, then we get more details to unlock this theory firther. But for now we are not to pursue it further without evidence
@random lava could you pin the vote please? Just so we can access easier?
help us @ionic gull won kenobi. you're our only hope
i need help pinning a message
oh, i actually don't think i have control over this 😃 , give it a second one of o
nix has me covered. you failed to save the galaxy
well.. there you go 😃
thanks 😄
Why Cornelius shows up here if he isn't here to answer lore?!
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Wait
He is project manager
Slams tentacle cracking the table
We need more lore! MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE!
Solid
Pieces of Lore!
Or we riot!

😦
BAD ESSY
i need to learn the lore of this game
its really good. if you want to learn more read the pinned posts!
if youre still hungry after that? try checking out the fandom site, as well as the hunt official site under media/story
aye! will do!
hope to see you back soon!
oh yes
oh lord yes
we are currently working on a vote to see what questions get answered
if you havent already go vote!
(hint: its in pinned messages
oh i will check it out! i'm like so interested in the lore of this game, bc today i was in a game and just looked around the environment and i was amazed on the details and want to know like what is going on!
oh yeah, its crazy detailed
yeah! like all the picture frames the building and even the monster it's honestly leaves me to question everything of the game aha!
@sinful trout Just in case.... Sorry Jusin Case once the pick is done and answered make sure it's removed as the answers are to be documented.
will do ess
@rotund ferry and thats good. question everything. the more questions the more answers we can get
They capped at 3 this time
enh
hi could a lore expert please answer this question for me
whos a better kisser, the spider or the butcher and why?
spider, because the spider straddles you while it does it.
I see, thank you for your insight
also it makes noises
@sinful trout @slim hatch if you have time to add a question to the list could you ask for clarification on what it means that were banishing the bosses back to hell?
Always wondered how do they get these "powers"
By getting jiggy with it
A ritual of which we don't know much about
So many questions and no lore pieces
I'm beginning to know how essense feels
it means were sending the abomination back to its dimention. then taking a particular organ
But it completely throws out the idea that it's a "shaped" human
i think at that point its more demon than human
Yeah, but that confused the idea that the spider is part human and the Meatheads are shaped humans, because the butcher is just the meathead*2
where did you hear that?
And if the butcher isn't human what are meatheads
I guess we'll find out if question 1 gets answered
i mean not much is known about banishing in general
Sadly
Dammit, we missed our chance to ask important duck related questions
Also imma need a source on this "the butcher isnt human" thing
Are the crows and ducks we see in the bayou "infected"?






