the sculptor itself, whoever/whatever it is, may not even actually have a HAND in making all of these creatures, but rather it's just the infection's natural evolution
#lore-discussion
slim panther
If we look at it from a scientific perspective, the butcher and the spider could be particularly outstanding mutations in the infection, and that's why they look the way they do.
sinful trout
far fetched
slim panther
Maybe, but it's possible.
sinful trout
it mentiones in a journal entry that it can possess people
so i doubt its talking about infecting
slim panther
Sensible, since it's not necessarily a scientific dilemma.
But a supernatural one.
But what does possession mean in this context?
sinful trout
and judging by the fact that the spider has hooves and is WAY more maerial than one person i doubt theyre just mutations
slim panther
Does it mean that its influence warps a body or host of its choosing? Or does it mean that the sculptor literally takes control of them.
We know from Dr Reed that the infection itself is relatively slow, depending on the individual, and that it drives you to insanity.
We know that the infected are also fully capable of still feeling pain, so their nerves are intact to at least that degree. They have basic reasoning skills, like any zombie, because they react to sound and approach it, as well as sight.
But Dr Reed is exceptional, because he didn't feel pain when amputating his own leg.
So he's not likely just any ordinary infected.
The Spider seems to have the unique ability to assimilate, or bring together, biological mass that was not originally its own, hence the many limbs. Unless the spider grew those on its own.
The Butcher displays a level of cunning not seen in ordinary grunts or infected, that is proven - at least it is if we can infer that the Butcher himself made the decoy pig head that sits on his shoulders.
These are beings capable of at least some form of intelligent thought.
nimble river
Hold on, if hunters slowly lose their physical bodies when using the Darksight, then would that mean John died from it after his 99th successful hunt?
Implying all of his other 98 were a bounty hunt
He says he knows he's going to die that day
slim panther
No, no, John's letter said each time that he would die that day.
Like each hunt I mean.
Right?
nimble river
Oh, must've missed that
slim panther
Yeah, every letter of his said that, I think.
nimble river
Time to recheck
slim panther
Darksight does take some kind of toll on the body, as evidenced in game by the markings on a Tier 3's arms and hands.
Like vitiligo.
A bleaching/loss of color in the skin.
nimble river
I think someone mentioned it consumes the soul of the user as well
slim panther
Maybe! It could work, for sure. But it leaves me wondering why a consumption of the soul inflicts the body, when the body in the basic way of thinking is just its vessel.
If it consumes your soul, it must be a very small portion with every Hunt - or you somehow replenish yourself to use it longer with the soul of the bounty, assuming you extract with it.
It could even make sense mechanically speaking in-game. The recovery of the Butcher or Spider's soul gives you that very temporary, but very powerful ability to see another Hunter's soul.
Like a steroid.
nimble river
But feeds on you as a consequence
slim panther
Hmm. No, I doubt it, considering the darksight already takes a toll.
It happens regardless.
nimble river
yada yada no power comes without a consequence
slim panther
Well the power is already there, the bounty soul might just be amplifying it for that short time.
nimble river
Yeah, they do have the power to see clues
slim panther
Hell, the Hunters when they kill the bounty might be taking the soul into their own bodies.
And then it might have to be extracted, or exorcised out of them at the AHA.
Bc we've seen no sort of object the Hunters take with them to house the souls they extract.
But they do reach out to touch it.
sinful trout
@slim panther fasih confirmed that the bounty token is part of the bosses body that contains part of their soul
so its not absorbed into the hunter
slim panther
Ah okay!
ashen plover
So summing up the sculptor might as well be an infection?
And its just the superstitious people calling it "sculptor"?
rotund ferry
Could darksight be a specific side effect of the "infliction" ?
From what ive read from yall the "infliction" is like a virus, prehaps its just how it reacts with these people making them prime crop to become hunters ?
iron hazel
So if the hunters are afflicted with something and die if left behind, untreated, how is it cured? Because it has to be able to be cured because your hunters can retire. And it can't have anything to do with the bounties because you don't need them to level up and be able to retire.
naive osprey
Y'all think Peter Roche is the butcher?
iron hazel
Most likely, the lore describes him as a physically imposing butcher that then gets massively obese from his own work. He's also the only butcher mentioned in the lore by name.
slim panther
Then most likely he is the butcher, yeah.
I doubt that darksight is a byproduct of being infected.
The hunters seem to have an uncanny resistance to it.
hence their being able to go in and hunt to begin with.
Perhaps the darksight instead is the product of the AHA, or each hunter themselves, making a pact with another demon?
One that is indifferent, or actively opposes this sculptor figure.
And it is fed the souls of each bounty as a sort of payment.
It could explain why each and every Hunter would be damned to Hell, too.
Make a pact to enable their ability to hunt these monsters, pay the one they've made the deal with. It's an end that somewhat justifies the means.
A faustian contract made by each hunter.
tranquil birch
this is already my favorite channel
anyone have like a link or can explain a quick rundown>
?*
low ice
retire is a fancy, politically correct word
doesn't necessarily mean retired hunters live happily ever after
burnt storm
Clearly that's not what Fasih meant
cold badger
Nahhhh they get a nice place out on Boca Raton
naive osprey
So peter roche is the butcher. Is the spider anybody that's been spoken of?
Like is it out there already?
And is Dr. Reed just a grunt or armoured or something?
minor peak
Retired Hunters dont live happily? 😮
@naive osprey There is no confirmation who is Butcher and who is Spider.
It has been widely speculated that Dr. Reed is the Spider but there is no evidence or lore proving this.
rocky nova
i thought fasih said Dr. Reed is def not spider
barren flint
"
Var, Na-E IGYesterday at 1:21 PM
So it's funny. As the armored is described as deteriorating but if we think of it. It's stinger, faster and tougher than the rest of the Zed's. Maybe the doctor performing the autopsy was refferring to the ability to "cure" the host?
Because (and correct me if I'm wrong) but deteriorating would mean it falling apart. But the armored seems to be growing
"
maybe it's deteriorated person that forms that flaky armor?
sinful trout
@barren flint that's specifically what I mentioned in the post. And for the last time people. Speculation doesn't mean confirmation. And Dr reed is not the spider it's been confirmed by fasih himself. And to my knowledge when a hunter retires the go out to an awesome farm on the country and live happily ever after because the aha is so nice they give out gold coins and rainbows to them
nimble river
then the hunter eats the rainbow and farts to infinity and beyond and leaves a trail of multiple colors
past bone
Look at the 2 "legs" right under your circle, noticed the small hairs on there? 😃 Can't post in hardcore so replied here.
nimble river
Hey nice eye
Also I circled the armored hand =p
done lousy cause I did it on my phone traveling to work
sinful trout
Yeah that's what I mean by I think the leeches have a larger role to play @past bone and @nimble river a dually circled these. He posted them a little while back I just reput them into hardcore for notes for later.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/370142302196334593/502141151273549835/IMG_20181017_172903.jpg
candid herald
thank you!
sinful trout
No problem!
slim panther
Reed has 1 leg. Not grunt or armored.
sinful trout
yeah we just ruled out evidence of him being correlated to the armored as the leech bottle also has spider legs
tall lava
Not really into lore normally but looked at the image aswell and to me atleast those don't really look like spider legs, tried looking up different kinds of insect legs and there's species that look more like that but not exactly, but might also just be a weird design of a spider leg
naive osprey
That image is pretty spot on. Had to be intentional\
sinful trout
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lament falcon
Could anyone help me, is it true, if your fps is too low you get disconnected ? because i keep being disconnected and my fps is around 30-35. idk why my fps so low. any suggestion how to fix this?
cold badger
This is lore discussion
That being said your fps is low because this game doesnt have the best optimization
cold badger
Dont compare the bottle legs to real spiders, compare it to the one in the game
past bone
@nimble river If you look at them with a microscope maybe, think all insects are a bit hairy in that case hehe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urticating_hair
past bone
Compared to? Not sure im getting your point @nimble river
nimble river
The legs on the picture are small and fragile
nimble river
no hair
past bone
Well, don't think he's a legit "type of spider" 😛
Oh well, im sticking with the spider theory
nimble river
plus that Loremaster guy said the caravans are borderline airtight
past bone
Gonna be fun to see how the lore plays out no doubt!'
Making a caravan cart completely airtight in the late 1800's seems a bit far fetched for me.. That rules out mosquitoes in that case
Spiders can hide anywhere
past bone
It's based on a real weapon?
nimble river
is it?
cursive schooner
It is based on the Russian Avtomat rifle
past bone
^
cursive schooner
basically it is the SKS and Svt-40's great grandfather
past bone
Didn't have the drum-mag but still, it's clearly supposed to be that weapon
@cursive schooner Exactly
Think the chain pistol is the only one "not real".. Or am I missing something?
cursive schooner
^ @past bone you are my brother from now on
cursive schooner
I need to say (and I'm not happy about it) but it happened
nimble river
Well consumables are mostly Leech blood based
past bone
Huh?
past bone
Vitality shots?
past bone
Dunno... cocaine, morphine and some other stuff maybe?
cursive schooner
in the North American civil war, there was South Army leader
past bone
Medicine back in the days 😛
cursive schooner
who was backed to a fort in the mountains
nimble river
Wiki says it clears the blood stream of impurities so you can assume it's what a Vitality shot is made of
cursive schooner
and there is a legend that he never surrendered
nimble river
except here it restores HP lmao
past bone
You can assume, im not assuming that
cursive schooner
And he customized his colt like that
past bone
A shot of "fuck my shit up fam deluxe" straight in the veins
Who are we talking about now?
nimble river
He's talking about the chain pistol
past bone
Ooh, okey
Vitality shots ftw
Here's a lil bit hairier from the "Widow"-family
Am I the only one seeing an arm poking out giving a "thumbs up"? 😄
Whoever mentioned a "Hoof" growing out of the spider? I've studied his corpse haha, I can't find one at least
Saying a horse must be in the "mix"
Theories people, give em' ^^
These? If they're hooves.. looks like they are the two back-legs from a baby pig at most..?
low ice
our weapons are all based on end of 19th century weapons
we carefully avoid including sci-fi weapons or steampunk weapons
low ice
there can be a few years of discrepancy
past bone
Only one I can't figure out
low ice
a real belt fed Colt revolver
past bone
Damn, what time era? Gotta look this one up
low ice
Dennis and Alex can tell you more
past bone
Oh shit
past bone
Awesome!
low ice
we really take great care to make everything authentic or plausible
past bone
Oh, I can tell! Love it
low ice
one early decision in development was we're not going to do Steampunk
that's what everyone's doing
it had to be more grounded
the narrative side of it is the plausible nature
makes everything more real... more creepy
past bone
Yeah, that trailer I saw of the "first" Hunt version kinda had that feeling... This on the other hand, keep it up!
Aye, regarding "creepy" I feels it's about time we get an enemy that really freaks you out
Fast, nimble, climbing shit
nimble river
It looks like somebody used a bike chain and stuffed it in there
past bone
As long as the bike chain could hold the rounds, why not? 😄 Imagine he who made it work the first time 😄
past bone
Hahaha nah, but we gotta have some fun too
nimble river
But they're awful in game without Fan
nimble river
T-Shirt blower
past bone
But it sucks
low ice
yet they were used only a few times
nimble river
easter egg weapon
low ice
modern artillery outperformed them
past bone
Easter egg? For what?
past bone
Bet cowboys, indians etc could stick a dynamite stick to their arrow and fire...?
low ice
not as practical as you think
past bone
Yeah, im born 89 so I kinda missed that part
1839 - Developed by a Woman/Man(?) Jules Mariette. "The Belgian Revolver"
nimble river
I can't even start to mention how utterly mad I would be because this thing would be meta
past bone
I think it would fit the game no doubt... How well it would perform has to be balanced if needed ofc...
This ^ this is my dream about the crafting system hehe
Imagine a buckshot loaded in the top barrel and a long ammo bullet in the lower. Iz nize
@nimble river Did you read about that "revolver" 😄
cursive schooner
A combination gun would be so awesome.
past bone
Yeah, like the Mosin carbine, feels like that was a teaser of sorts of what's coming
That could totally be a gun you could've crafted on your own, just gotta find a nice stock etc.. Everyone having somewhat "unique" weapons and how they behave is what I really hope the crafting brings
@low ice Sorry for bothering but, when saying "there can be a few years of discrepancy". Aprox how many years back/ahead could you go with the weapon models?
hallow cosmos
the chain revolver in this game seems like a terrible design irl
past bone
Says on wiki that it was very reliable @hallow cosmos
But yeah, the design feels like it's made to jam etc 😄
hallow cosmos
just imagine the hammer pull though, gotta be heavy af pulling up an entire chain of like .45 rounds
making it ironically terrible for fanning lol
past bone
Aye! Never thought about that, unless they dipped it in a barrel of weapon grease I can totally see what you mean, maybe the reload isn't that slow after all then 😄
low ice
give or take 5
past bone
Okey, good to know. Since you have weapons from all over the world, same as with the Hunters. Will unreleased weapons still be models from all over the globe?
past bone
Aye, figured since there's Italian, American, Russian etc...
Still, Sweden has the most feared gun on the planet at that time
Figured this has to be one of the ones to the left
- cal and some numbers are what I can see on it but I know it's from pre- 1900
hallow cosmos
no one would use a .22 in hunt
past bone
Was not suggesting it haha, sorry if I came off serious
Just would be fun to know what model it is exactly
Friends grandad took it home from the Army back in the day
Derringer uses 22. rounds right? Fun fact, Lincoln was assassinated by a derringer. Would use it over the derringer just to represent 😛 @hallow cosmos
hallow cosmos
I guess it depends on the model, I thought they used .45 like most early cartridge guns in the west
hallow cosmos
makes sense, wouldn't be so small otherwise
past bone
"Hooker gun" scuse' me french
This mag tho. Yes please
Oh shit, sorry for going on about this in the lore thread.'
rotund ferry
Oh damn imagine
sinful trout
@nimble river theres no proof saying that leech blood is in vitality shots. if anything it would most likely be in the antidote shots. based purely on speculation. if were going with medicine back then then the chances are that vitality shots were mixed with morphine or cocaine. the stamina would be cocaine or adrenaline. and the antidote shots proably leech blood. but then again thats based purely on speculation and is not grounds for any proof. regardless we have no info on the medicines. for all we know it could be some super sciencey thing that the aha made that doesnt have ANY of those ingrediants.
@cursive schooner could you link that legend? id love to read up on that it sounds interesting af.
sorry ive been away for a while... i left my phone on the bus and got it back recently
zenith palm
(lore snippet i wrote) Pa warned me the things I would see in the war would be the most horrific things my eyes would lay on afore setting off. I cut through men and cloth at the battle of Orleans before it fell to the yanks. Many of my brother laid his blood upon that damned forts stone. Macomb. I could scarcely tell tween men and earth.
I lived though the war.
2nd lafayette Regiment disbanded after Lee folded and I staggered back home to the parish avoiding trial.
Twas breaking the earth on my kins land when I saw horrors paw couldn't even imagine.
We heard of the flu that was sweeping though the south but nothing like this.
Maw and paw lost their minds. Tore their fingers off trying to claw out the house, their skin like that of a dead man, postural and putrid.
It's like the devil himself lept up from the earth and grabbed holt of em.
When I was young I had a dog that lay I'll. Paw put ole blue down so as to end his pain. That's all this was. Sick dogs going astray. But dogs you knew ya know? Your family, friends, the general store clerk. I used to fight for ideals. But this... this is something bigger. This is the living verses the dead or some other ungodly vex. That's why I hunt these things. The money? Best spent on something that keeps you alive. I ain't here to get rich. I'm here to put down old blue.
-overheard from a veteran hunter over a campfire south of Baton Rouge
give me some feedback on this
sinful trout
you wrote this?
naive osprey
Awesome.
cloud mortar
@cursive schooner Isn't the Mosin-Nagant Avtomat based on the Huot Automatic Rifle?
Mechanism, magazine, etc looks practically the same except the rifle base is a Mosin-Nagant instead of a Ross rifle
cursive schooner
@cloud mortar you are right, I only said the Russian one because the one above me mentioned that one. But yeah the working mechanism clearly proves that its Huot (is open chambered gas operated bolt action, avtomat is short-recoiloperated, locked-breech weapon which fires from a closed bolt)
@sinful trout I'm really sorry but I read that one from a book when I was a child...
sinful trout
Rip.
gusty herald
iron hazel
Will we ever get a straight up book or wiki of confirmed lore? Trying to keep all of this straight is driving me insane lol
clever sentinel
@iron hazel Yeah I would also be very interested in owning a published hardback of the lore...
zenith palm
@sinful trout @naive osprey yes i wrote it. The game really calls to me. I live in mobile al, about an hour from nola. Dunno what i channeled but i like it
sinful trout
I've got a doc you can look at that I wrote a while ago for a friend.
@iron hazel we have a document of questions and characters. They're in the pinned messages.
sinful trout
@iron hazel and they have mentioned they will add a lore book to the game
naive osprey
@zenith palm Definitely would love to see more from you man. Keep it up. I was born in Louisiana so I love that the game is down in the Bayous.
sinful trout
@zenith palm if I could offer a suggestion to the piece? Instead of maw and paw as you write in the story. Try out just ma and Pa. Maw and paw just sound so hick and might be a tad bit harder to understand instead of ma and Pa.
analog cipher
@zenith palm really enjoyed reading this!!
sinful trout
@zenith palm i dont think lore channel is the best place for it,
kindred zinc
hey boys i wanna know if there is any lore i could narrate, like something good for a solid 5 min video or so
cold badger
Why do you have a louisiana accent or somethint
analog cipher
No, lol .
A written narrative* I guess he could have been more specific.
Just as spookemuptv had done.
They're a wonderful idea. I think a few of us should write em up as to add more life to this world!
sinful trout
They'd be all fantasy. We don't have enough lore on anyone's story.
zenith palm
yeah man, the game has almost no lore, writing our own stuff helps with immursion and shows the devs how much passion we have for the game. Who knows the devs may look through here and use our ideas or incorperate it into their own
sinful trout
the game is full of lore @zenith palm its just buried. similar to dark souls or blood borne. it just has less hints. dont be fooled, this game is rich with lore
zenith palm
the only actual lore is the cyptic social media posts "on this day" and the like 2 books. Thats it.
sinful trout
that being said i do think it would be nice for other hunters to have something to read while waiting for matches... and no dude. check out the website. theres so much history and charecters. theres 3 websites (as far as i see) for hunt lore and the in game book is also full of dug up stuff. weve had so much resources pulled from that book. its more like a guidline to understand the lore. and not to mention actual in game stuff you can read and discover throughout the game
definately check it out. essence made a doc of charecters and questions in the pinned section. plus reading up on who these people are gives us more insight to the game.
zenith palm
link all of it
sinful trout
before you jump the gun definately check the sources. i think youll be intrigued
give me a second
https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntShowdown/ Reddit link
https://www.huntshowdown.com/news/tagged/story#stickynav Hunt official website link
http://huntshowdown.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Lore Fandom link
and plus you can check out a whole bunch of lowdown videos on youtube but be advised theyre based highly on speculation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OBTdYtNgXE&t=322s Dsdude 464
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdCHRb90bLw Ds dude 464
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Irph5fL-xs Center step gaming
i wouldnt say the game has no lore at all. in fact its rich with it
zenith palm
cool
sinful trout
how much have you gotten through?
zenith palm
none saving for later. ty tho
sinful trout
no problem man
cursive schooner
Fasih don't listen to those Lovecraft's tentacle lovers in hardcore. We the filthy casuals love you for who you are; The Metalhead with great taste for the blackest of black!
🤘
cold badger
Yee
sinful trout
In context of what essence said @cursive schooner that sounds so wrong
cursive schooner
Wrong in the bad or in a good way?
sinful trout
with a great taste for the blackest of blacks
Lube up and bend over sister essence will take care of you
burnt storm
Yo do we need to drag this out?
brazen mica
Fasih is best girl
cursive schooner
Then in the good way 
cold badger
So what we find in lawson
sinful trout
@cold badger all I found in Lawson so far is the spooky hive house and the post office noted in the "a day in 1995" posts
proven egret
hey gamers, someone give me a summary of the lore because this newspaper clipping in the game isnt saying much
sinful trout
Check pinned posts @proven egret
proven egret
thanks fren
hallow cosmos
You think you'd remember something like that lol
sinful trout
Why do you say that @cold badger
cold badger
It was an easter egg someone found
sinful trout
Screenshot?
cold badger
Its under a sheet
sinful trout
?
hallow cosmos
Why didn't he look at the table, it seem to have the rail model and everything
sinful trout
I mean TECHNICALLY it's loricly accurate...m
slim hatch
A bit offtopic. In Back to the future 3 doc died 1895 thats the western movie game is set in 1895
They had to use the opportunity as even years match
sinful trout
what makes you think that?
cold badger
It cant be that because you cant dual wield new model armies like a badass 😫 😫 😫
Instead they add shitty cei rigotti
mild needle
so dual wield Dulch or semiauto rifle?
sinful trout
@mild needle I see what you mean but it's a massive stretch. The lovecraftian angle I get. It's dark and twisted. But the only real correlation between the dark tower and hunt imo would be the gunslingers. It's no doubt that Roland is described exactly as hunters in hunt are described. But I think that's about where the similarities end.
In the dark tower Roland moves in between multidimmensions and pulls things with him to and fro to protect the people he cares for such as Eddie. I just don't see that being in hunt
mild needle
I must be seeing things or connections I restract the statment.
sinful trout
by all means it was a theory and thats the point of this channel. to try and make new connections
analog cipher
I made it to Perish..
My kids and wife had turned over to that wicked curse.
The militiamen, well we did what we had to. We sent those demons to meet their maker. I asked the others to kill my kin. I couldn't look.
rotund ferry
@sinful trout since i was reading the hardcore lore discussion and read that the infection could be a curse, so i was wondering if it could have anything to do with voodoo?
just thought it would be possible since there is african folklore about zombies.
low ice
😃
sinful trout
Yeah, the majority of the game lore is connected to thebHaitian Creole bible and voodoo
@rotund ferry
rotund ferry
yeah i thought so, thanks
midnight forge
Is there a web source for the in-game lore books? For instance, if I am away from my PC and I want to read those lore books, are the posted online somewhere?
naive osprey
yes
sinful trout
@naive osprey i find fasih likes to give people things that seem too obvious. and in that case it wouldnt be what you think. dr reed and roche
low ice
@fluid frigate there IS a metalhead faction in the game 😉
random lava
sinful trout
Do they wear the cages?
rough field
so I found this book in the Prison on the new map
anyone got any idea what that symbol is? might have some significance i reckon
rough field
it's in the room with the electric chair if anyone's curious
and yeah it does look really cool
random lava
its on books in the old map too
ashen plover
It is some kind of script
You can see it on the "hunter desk" on the hunt showdown website
Under "desk of a hunter"
rough field
huh interesting. gotta wonder what it's doing in the death chamber of a prison tho
ashen plover
Maybe the presence of hunters in these areas?
naive osprey
@low ice Why do hunters kill eachother? If they are all under the aha? Does the aha condone or allow killing other hunters as long as the goal is achieved? Wouldn't it make more sense for them to push hunters to work together?
cloud mortar
Been wondering this as well
But seeing as everyone is looking for the bounty when out in the Bayou, rules and laws set by the AHA might break down. Dead men can't talk anyway and hunters get killed by monsters all the time as well.
rough field
damn, that is some creepy stuff, thanks man!
mild needle
the It hurt to read is the book with eye and snake on the cover
ashen plover
wait wait wait
ok this is just speculation BUT:
we know of the voynich manuscript and that the researcher from the #thisdayin1895 read it. but what if what happend to him (the eye/concentration problems) is connected to the manuscript?
I'm sweating rn
@low ice pls 😦
low ice
😃
about hunters killing each other
do they?
I mean... you don't have to kill each other
technically Hunt never forces you to kill other hunters
sinful trout
@naive osprey not all hunters are aha and they kill each other because there's not enough bounty to go around. But as fasih said they don't have to. The devseven support random teaming. Not premade. And wynu it's possible you're right about the eye hurting. I'll look into this more later
@ashen plover usually when fasih smiles about something it means we're on the right track
ashen plover
Another big strech but maybe worth thinking about:
The regimental journal which is mentioned in the german letter in the Louisiana event booklet could be the script that reads you...
its in the books people 
full tulip
Seen this dead guy on new map, does someone know who is he ?
analog cipher
Yea there are a couple of these spread throughout the map; interesting indeed
cloud mortar
perhaps some people decided to end it themselves instead of being eaten or changing into a monster?
sinful trout
My guess is the fresh bodies are a reference to when the hunters arrive on scene. Not many around in Louisiana bayou which makes me believe we got there pretty late. But in Lawson there's a ton which makes me think we got there pretty fast
supple sable
they look like they are merging with the ground.
prisma steppe
I think that might be the people trying to bury themselves because they dont want to hurt their friends and family if they res as zombies
theyre basically burying themselves alive to protect the other survivors
river rain
@prisma steppe. I think if you where going to tern into a monster that would hurt your family you would spend more time killing yourself and less time trying to bary yourself. I mean lets face it. Without help or some ingenuity, your not going to be able to get much more than a shallow grave if you're trying to bary yourself. And if its just a shallow grave, you could get out of it. I think it might just be deep mud and time.
sinful trout
I think what it is is them getting scared because their friends and family's are becoming monsters attacking people at random. So they hide in places their friends won't find them. Under houses and such and then they don't want to go out so they starve to death
sinful trout
?
low ice
??
flint hearth
???
prisma steppe
hey Fasih I know ur the loremaster and want to test my theory
cloud mortar
I think most of this is simply not explained yet, the lore we have right now is quite sparse when it comes to the AHA, the Louisiana Event, Dark Sight, etc
sinful trout
@mild needle check pinned messages. Some of your questions have been answered.
@cloud mortar you too
Bounty is a specific part of the monster body containing some of it's soul, we believe the disease is supernatural. Like a curse and it's most likely Haitian voodoo related
cloud mortar
Alrighty
sinful trout
You're very welcome.
sinful trout
im sorry i dont follow
cloud mortar
I think it was confirmed that it wasn't related? I mean of course it takes inspiration from those sources but I assume this game isn't set in another media's universe.
Hard to not get some lovecraftian vibes with a setting like this
low ice
no
Hunt does not take place in the Mythos universe
however the events we describe are all taken from real world history
ashen plover
@low ice is the manuscript book (the one with the eye on the hunters desk) part of developing dark sight boost?
low ice
no
low ice
no
ashen plover
Okay good to know!
Thanks!
analog cipher
Does the first map have a name?
stiff vector
Loussiana Bayou I think
burnt storm
Stillwater Bayou
analog cipher
Thanks guyss
cloud mortar
@royal shore yes a number of weapons, such as the Dolch pistol, Crown and King shotgun and Nagant M1895 suppressor and Mosin-Nagant Avtomat (Huot Automatic Rifle) variants only exist beyond 1895 in the real world.
But the American Hunter Association could have access to prototype weapons or some of these weapons were perhaps build earlier in the Hunt universe.
Dolch 96 is actually said to be a German prototype pistol in the in-game item description
cursive schooner
Dolch is Mauser c96
cloud mortar
Yep, Crown & King is Browning, Caldwell is Colt, Winfield is Winchester, Sparks is Sharps, Specter is Spencer
Any idea which company Romero is supposed to represent?
random lava
romero is just an easter egg for george romero
cloud mortar
Mmmh thought so already 😉
tropic ivy
Hey, can anyone tell me in what year Hunt is set to be, Lore wise ? what era ?
burnt storm
1895
tropic ivy
Thank you!
naive osprey
Why is there that grafiti thing from 1970 in the book then?
I've always wondered why that is there
cloud mortar
Oh I thought there was also something about a researcher in the 2020s / present day?
@naive osprey https://time.graphics/line/141172
Check the timeline
Lore info is also posted on the Hunt twitter with the hashtag #thisdayin1895
Twitter
sinful trout
There's a lot of seemingly unrelated notes in the lore book. We don't know a whole lot about them right now.
sinful trout
i believe this connection was made a long time ago when talking about the haitian creole bible
Ogoun is the loa of soldiers and warriors as well as craftsmen so its only reasonable he would watch over hunters
dapper spoke
hey
is there a specific place i can go to read up on the lore
the concept of the game is really cool to me i'd like to know more
ashen plover
I recommend reading the pinned posts in this channel and the lore-discussion-hardcore channel!
dapper spoke
thanks
royal shore
Maybe 1896
low ice
alright
clarifications
the game officially takes place in 1895
for now
yes there are guns from the future (give or take a few years)
but you'll never have WW1 era guns for instance... unless we decide to move the date forward
some of the guns are in prototype stage
the AHA has a lot of connections
these will be explained in upcoming narrative content
there's also another thing I may have mentioned
if you look at our documents... the ones we have released so far... you'll realize they are not written from an objective point of view
everything you see in hunt is being told by someone
written by someone
etc
as such... the things you see are not necessarily completely accurate
do not take any text or any visual as scripture
some people do not remember things correctly
others base their accounts on inaccurate sources
and some people have a legit reason to lie
consider the Butcher
there's only ONE Butcher
yet you hunt the Butcher multiple times in multiple different ways
each hunt is someone telling the story of how the Butcher was killed
each person is telling the story differently
as for the truth... there IS a truth..
but you'll have to figure it out
slim hatch
Yes I killed all Butcher and Spider
Thats is the ultimate truth @low ice can confirm
After all I’m The Essence of Darkness and Evil
slim hatch
😉
sinful trout
I love this.
random lava
taking away fasih's hardcore lore access since he is going offtopic in this channel 
stiff vector
you can't. He is a MASTER. You are just a Mod. MiniK
low ice
metal is never off topic
sinful trout
Filthy mortal. You cannot silence our God. He is all knowing. He is all powerful he is omnicient... HE IS FASIH
random lava
vital parrot
so was the developer posses by Satan him self to come up with a hell hounds
atomic crow
@cold badger lol
rotund ferry
I’m still holding out for a model 1895 Winchester to be implemented in game though
sinful trout
The winfield...
rotund ferry
nope model 95 or nuthin
untold lodge
So I'm new to this games lore, is there any reason why the Spider boss is that particular person being transformed? Did they do anything special?
sinful trout
what particular person?
stiff vector
Propably the face?
sinful trout
we believe the sculptor made the spider from multiple people/animals
untold lodge
ok, I thought it was someone that had been transformed into the spider and I was wondering why them.
still shell
lore people what exactly is the water devil?
steep arrow
Okay so this cabin by liberty arsenal is this an Evil Dead Easter Egg? i'm like damn its almost the exact same looking cabin even with the shed outside and everything then walk inside and see THIS!? You guys are friggin awesome.
At first thought it was just coincidence then my friend is like uhh is that a chainsaw outline?
sinful trout
@still shell water devil is 250+ bloodowrms with a hive mind
untold lodge
Does the Vaporizing Inhaler in the journal have any significance? Is it hinting at content coming out in the future?
cold badger
disgusted by this historical inaccuracy /s
cans weren't ribbed until like the 1970s
cloud mortar
Crytek pls fix
supple sable
Has anyone seen the furnace/oven which looks brand new and totally out of place. I can't remember where it was now.
stiff vector
it's also on the old map in reeker
I once searched for easter egg and I though it ws one because it looks so out of place. But it isn't.
cloud mortar
Well I think this fits here better
So what is up with the defensive positions, cannons, trenches, etc all over the Lawson Delta map?
I take it that we're still in 1895, so the civil war has been over for a few decades by now.
Yet there are defensive positions inland, on the roads, etc. There's a coastal fort, but far from all guns are pointed towards the coast. It looks like there was an attempt at setting up defensive positions against... something or someone.
low ice
indeed
cold basin
In the map teaser it did say war broke out it Lawson, which was only in 1860’s
cloud mortar
Yes, so what I'm thinking is that the people / soldiers of Lawson Delta tried to perhaps fend off the infection / invasion / horde / monsters
cold badger
im just out here tryna call artillery fire on zombies
cloud mortar
Could work against a meathead or armored, hell hounds... Not so much
However, now that I read the blog post about the Lawson Delta concept art, it seems to suggest that perhaps the area was already abandoned?
I quote:
Detritus from the Civil War, ended thirty years past, is strewn throughout the abandoned area that was once a center of war-time commerce and military defense. But the population has faded away, replaced by a violent, rotten-limbed hoard that hungers for flesh. If the adverts are anything to go by, this was once a bustling military town, though it's former vigor is barely evident in the ruins it's fleeing residents left for the elements to devour.
slim hatch
That doesn't explain quite fresh corpses and unsealed mass-graves
Plus ridiculous amount of artillery and weapons
(Talking map decor not ammo boxes and player usable shit)
It wasn't abandoned for elements to nibble away at it.
And then the war part.
The chaos on the map
You know defensive positions, ammunition and even partially transported cannons probably isn't left over from war.
It's already when outbreak / sculptor's arrival occurred
1895 - 1860 = 35
In 35 years all the cannons and guns would of rotted away into turds (ANd i mean they would actually look like huge turds)
Unless they were maintained, so glory days over but it was still an active settlement area (No stay away Preston.... Settlements don't need help here!)
random lava
Settlement?
cloud mortar
@slim hatch Yes, all this is puzzling me too
If the army set up shop there and used the (somewhat obsolete) equipment from the old arsenal and fortress, what wiped them out?
With the old map I was thinking that the "events" were very localized, only hitting small settlements deep in the Bayou.
But Lawson seems to have been fairly well populated, had importance, industry, a functioning railway system, etc
rotund ferry
aight
cold badger
yeah i dont doubt that the military was fighting SOMETHING there
actually thats a missed opportunity imo
the fort being filled with zombified Cavalrymen and Artillerymen after it got overrun
pliant sinew
@cloud mortar Noone ever confirmed that Hunt is in the same universe as us. Maybe it isn’t and in that universe the civil war was still going on or just ended
cloud mortar
That's true (and looking at some of the weapons, it certainly is not set in an exact version of our world). But I think if the civil war was really still ongoing, we would have seen or read it somewhere else also.
slim hatch
It’s Alt-earth I explained that some half a year ago feel free to search for the term in this channel
low ice
I did
it takes place in the same universe as ours
I mean... plus all the monsters shit
slim hatch
Accidentally respondede in hardcore oh well point stands
sinful trout
riperino
sharp locust
is there any lore about the hunters sexual orientation?
pulsar spruce
can u dont
sterile sonnet
slim hatch
Wtf? Not sure if stupid or troll
About lore hardcore
Discuss what? Weather?
There haven’t been any new lore pieces out so we have nothing to discuss atm
low ice
@pastel zodiac eleborate
pastel zodiac
?
rocky bloom
For the Lore Experiment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv-Jhp5_Xic&list=PL67lNn-UgGXdcGaRCtUkMA-NIkWnuZWSv&index=6 
Think I've been playing too much hunt showdown 
umbral gull
Does the old map have a name?
flat dew
Lousiana bayou @umbral gull
random lava
it's an artist
low ice
ah.. okay 😃
shadow crown
@low ice , plz can you tell something about bosses? Are they resurrect or we play the same run over and over? Dr. Reed just keep spawning or other time it's someone else?
low ice
they do not respawn
you are playing different tellings of the same event
each session of hunt is someone telling the story of the boss being killed... or not
yes
but who says that's what exactly happened
shadow crown
thx!
low ice
this goes for all hunt narrative material
it's all somebody telling the story
but people lie
people remember things differently
random lava
i remember winning every time but in reality i usually get killed
low ice
hahah
exactly
we have prepared a lot of story for you guys
in time all of it will be released
it's just right now we're focused more on other things
rest assured there IS an actual timeline
we will probably never directly tell you what happened
low sleet
Damn i need a tin foil hat for this lore
low ice
but you'll get all sorts of accounts from different people
it will be up to you to piece things together
terse sandal
Is there a PDF of the ingame lore books
stiff vector
I'm not in the lore thing but I think the most important things are in the pinned messages
Also look in the pinned messages in #lore-discussion-hardcore
prisma steppe
im pretty sure i dont need that many details
official unofficial hunt timeline
Demons are lil bitches
Some human does something to rile up the demons/Said demons raid the human world cause theyre bitches
everyone fuckin dies
somebody sends hunters to bitch slap the demons back to hell
hunters bitch slap demons back to hell
gg
Also, is theyre any proof of the whole demon invasion happening anywhere else in the world
it would be neat to have a map based off a 19th century chinese or russian town
something other than crappy lumber mills, cottages and ports
something exotic
ember monolith
Oh I'd be up for Whitechapel monster hunting
with new variations on weapons like a sword cane
snow egret
Has there been any discussion of a dog-like creature/boss after the original "this day in 1895" post from way back in March? The one that referenced Gevaudan. Anything since then to hint at dog-like creatures?
sonic wave
cloud mortar
Long Ammo: because of balance reasons. Flags: emh... I bet they have a boat load more flags, no need upsetting the hives and hellhounds!
@prisma steppe while that would be cool that would be way too intensive development / asset wise I think
They'd basically have to start from scratch and it wouldn't fit with any of the currently known lore I think
I think Lawson Delta has shown that multiple environments would be possible within the Louisiana Bayou
dull lance
Nah dude you dont want russian towns
Believe me, we there had the most boring and depressing fucking towns in the world
And they were like 50 km apart each other
Its not like a ranch a hop skip and a jump from another one always
While idea of a map which is all-town fun, gunplay and mobs in such environnent is gonna be terrible
Taking a detour two blocks down cause of crows
Yum
whole plank
SO! From what I understand. A cold medicine caused zombies and now world ded
I kinda wish there was a hub town, just so I could see what civilization looked like now
Would it be like, a shantytown on the water, or something more like steampunk london
prisma steppe
@dull lance
im pretty sure small towns decimated by zombies and demons are also kinda depressing
dull lance
Not much more than non-decimated ukranian towns, if at all
cloud mortar
To be fair those towns weren't like what they are now, you have to remember the game is set in 1895
Traditional Ukrainian peasant houses look pretty cozy when I google them
They aren't concrete blocks
rotund ferry
Most peasant houses are cozy tbf.
stiff vector
I don't know if this was already found (I think so) but on the Hunt showdown game website (https://www.huntshowdown.com/game) on the desk there is an article or short text about three hanged guys. And on the new Map there are also three hanged guys at the prison. Just wanted to post it in here. Maybe it's helpful.
sinful trout
Oh jeez we haven't been focusing on desk because that's old news but I didn't think to look at it with a new perspective. Could you provide screenshots?
twilit torrent
@sinful trout here you go
sinful trout
i meant of the prison hanged people
twilit torrent
oh
stiff vector
@sinful trout i will make it today. But have to go to univercity now. So like in 7 hours.
rotund ferry
how come there arent many weapons, other than late 1800s lever actions and revolvers, when the game takes place no earlier than 1917? that and does WW1 occur in Hunt: showdowns universe?
stiff vector
I think the time in Hunt is 1895
rotund ferry
Huot automatic rifle wasnt produced until 1917
and the Mauser C96 wasnt produced until 1896
stiff vector
I think the explanation for that is that those in game are just prototypes. But I'm not that much into the lore.
rotund ferry
Im not too knowledgable on it either. Im just not sure as to whether or not theyve given a definite date as to when the game takes place.
its just odd that people would be using 1873 winchesters and shite when there would be better things on the market at that point.
stiff vector
I'm pretty sure that the date Hunt takes place is 1895.
stiff vector
When you look in the pinned messages there is a timeline of Hunt
low ice
hunt takes place in 1895
rotund ferry
how do they justify having an automatic rifle then
low ice
the hunt universe is for all intents and purposes no different than our own... at least on the surface
the automatic rifle in question, I believe, is a Mosin Nagant M1891 Avtomat
rotund ferry
thats the in game name, yeah
but its obviously based off of the Rifle invented by Joseph Huot in the late 1910s
think it was a conversion of a SMLE to Semi automatic
low ice
and Dolch 96 is a Mauser
we assume the AHA had access to prototype weaponry... on top of that and they modified their weapons
rotund ferry
I wouldnt bring the C96 isnt question, as im sure there were atleast a few trial versions floating around in 1895
low ice
we basically draw the line before WW1
one thing you have to understand about Hunt's lore is that the whole thing's told by unreliable narrators
I do not know if I touched on this in this non-hardcore channel
rotund ferry
so its mostly conjecture?
low ice
could be that they managed to modify a mosin to be like this
could be the person who's telling the story is lying
rotund ferry
Because Id expect it to be that way
information doesnt travel all that fast back then
low ice
there's a lot of story behind the mosin nagant avtomat
we plan on releasing those in due time
can't say which update yet
but there will be more story in the game
rotund ferry
and im sure thered be plenty of people trying to keep an entire area being lost to "zombies" under wraps
low ice
that's why I said the universe of hunt is not "different"
the apparent history is prettymuch the same
rotund ferry
makes sense
low ice
and we take our cues from real historical events
and existing folklore
a lot of characters we mention... if you search them you'll find out they are real people
rotund ferry
if that kinda shit did happen im sure theyd delete that from the history books lol
random lava
"I had to hunt this giant monster with a Mosin nagant I modified into being automatic and I only had 15 rounds to kill it, it was crazy"
stiff vector
@random lava is that real? Where from?
rotund ferry
wouldnt want to carry too many rounds
random lava
rotund ferry
that would be unfair to the other people that wanna kill me
low ice
or give a different spin to it
if you look at the end of 19th century you'll see there were a lot of news about different outbreaks in new orleans
stiff vector
Ah, you told the story from the narrator but it wasn't on a screenshot or smt. I understand.
rotund ferry
snow on the bayou
low ice
fire in the sky
rotund ferry
sounds like an alternate way of mentioning cocaine smuggling or something
low ice
sorry... random deep purple reference 😛
rotund ferry
I guess if you had to pick any existing rifle to look like some janky piece someone made in their garage, the huot was a good choice
low ice
Alex is our weapons-master
rotund ferry
or, model a weapon after an existing rifle
low ice
and Dennis our lead designer is very much a weapon nut
rotund ferry
good to know you guys got some people on the payroll that are into guns
low ice
isn't it obvious
rotund ferry
Couldnt say for sure, only gun from hunt ive fired Irl is a Mosin
low ice
he's the Pun-issuer
rotund ferry
and its a pretty damn accurate rendition, except for the sights
rotund ferry
without a doubt
low ice
Crown and King is Browning
rotund ferry
yeah
rotund ferry
Just a generic single shot shotgun
low ice
yep
rotund ferry
not really my forte
low ice
that's obviously a reference to George A. Romero
rotund ferry
RIP
wanted to say you guys made a really great game, and keep doing what youre doing! Ill get out of your hair now and quit asking you stupid questions lol.
low ice
why thank you
and do not worry about questions
that's what I'm here for
worst case scenario I don't answer 😛
rotund ferry
theres always that, if the questions are too stupid
low ice
naaah
I can be as stupid as the question
when I don't answer it's usually because I have to do something else
cursive schooner
Or you just being on a concert
blazing tree
I know I’m a bit late to the party, but the first automatic rifle was created in 1900 with the cei-riggotti. It doesn’t seem completely out of the realm of possibility to have a prototype/rigged up automatic rifle before then
stiff vector
Hunt should take place in 1895
cursive schooner
I would be happy if not even a single automat gun, or repeter rifle would be in the game, the winchester and Mauser should be the two fastest gun. I would be more happy if it had the 1800- filing than the 1900
low ice
official answer
it is 1895
right now we are trying to avoid having a lot of automatic rifles around
forest condor
@wise raft The bent bold was used to accommodate the "Sniper" variant of the Mosin Nagant
Also there does need to be some more weapons, sidearms specifically, that can accommodate the medium rounds. The Remington autoloader would be a great choice, make it compatible with bullet grubber as a balance and give it some heavy recoil with a long barrel. This would have to be around $250 to $300 so as to keep incentive for the officer carbine. .
blazing tree
Pretty much I see the avtomat being a custom job done for someone with much more money then sense, which then gained some popularity with wealthy hunters
Considering a maxim gun cost $1,226 per unit, and the avtomat is 1500*
blazing tree
Using an inflation calculator, the avtomat is like 55-60k
rotund ferry
Remington model 8 wasnt produced until 1905
blazing tree
In modern money that is
rotund ferry
the more important question is: Winchester 1895 when?
When I can bushwhack a man through an outhouse and a sheetmetal roof with a .44-40
imagine the damage I can do with a 30-06
It is a cool rifle tbh
and due to it only being fed through 5 round stripper clips, it likely wouldnt be incredibly OP
I mean they were expensive ass rifles
I think a few militaries got trial versions
but noone was realistically gonna adopt a rifle thats that expensive
I mean, they had RSCs
dont see why theyd need expensive ass US rifles when they have domestic semi automatics
they used far more semi automatic rifles than any other faction in WW1, if I remember correctly
Outside of a few prototypes
blazing tree
RSCs has limited production
rotund ferry
a few countries fielded a few semi-automatic conversions of their standard issue rifle
blazing tree
So they used magic money to buy rifles to supplement it
rotund ferry
there were a few Huot rifles used by canadian troops
its entirely impractical
it costs less to make an entirely new rifle
They all thought they could find a way to convert existing bolt action rifles to semi automatics for far cheaper than was possible between WW1 and WW2 which obviously didnt work
they just made a bunch of trash and wasted a bunch of time and money in R&D
which they couldve used in developing and manufacturing semi automatics
yeah I heard they had some retarded standards for that
If I remember correctly they had to backpedal on a few
rotund ferry
they had to remove a few of the requirements so the G43 would be accepted
think it was walther that beat out mauser or something
could be mistaken
yeah
cursive schooner
We need black powder blunderblass, not semi auto ones
cloud mortar
Meh experienced musketeers could fire multiple shots a minute
And if you use paper cartridges or Twelve Apostles then it won't have to take long at all, especially if it's a flintlock musket.
whole plank
I don't think our hunters are experienced musketeers
blazing tree
They could be
Considering most guns are handled quite efficiently, it’s fair to say they’d be proficient in any/all firearms
zenith hound
What year is this game officially set in, anyway?
I never actually found a concrete year, I just kinda guessed
blazing tree
1895 was said earlier
cloud mortar
@whole plank Well our hunters also know how to operate a crossbow or fight with a saber. And even in the Civil War flintlock muskets still saw some usage, and our Hunters could have fought in the Civil War easily.
whole plank
I don't recall it being extremely difficult to operate a crossbow. And I get the feeling this takes place in an alternate universe, it's entirely possible this is long past black powder days, perhaps they just never progressed to modern guns because of whatever apocalypse happened
Or it's just past the dyas of black powder
So they are no longer used simply because they are inferior or something
I just don't see how they'd fit into the world accurately ^^'
cloud mortar
Umh, hunt is set in 1895 :p
@low ice has confirmed that Hunt takes place in 1895, in a world mostly like ours
I don't recall it being extremely difficult to operate a crossbow.
Neither is a musket
whole plank
Correct, however I doubt any would be experienced in it
But keep in mind
I know, NOTHING about guns
cloud mortar
Well like I said, they were still in use during the Civil War in some units
And that took place around 30 years ago in Hunt (1895 now, Civil War was in the 1860s), some of our Hunters are old enough to have fought in that war, some even wear uniforms from that era!
Flintlock muskets would be more common than crossbows I guess
digital finch
yes but crossbows are cooler looking
cloud mortar
They definitely get some style points
blazing tree
It’s kinda just an arbitrary distinction to say “yes the hunters can use crossbows no problem, no they can’t use a musket”
digital finch
yea but do you see how slow the reload is for the sparks? how could they reload a musket and fire it multiple times a minute?
i could see 3 shots maybe 4 in a minute but then those guns were inaccurate in comparison to the ones we have.
faint dagger
Just looked it up, after flintlocks were invented a fast (not average) reload was 20 seconds.
So yeah, not super conducive to this style of play.
Pre-flintlocks took a full minute to reload.
Plus by 1840 the percussion cap had replaced flints and by 1860 only a few (about 2000) were in use in either military.
blazing tree
I agree that muskets shouldn’t be in the game with the sparks fulfilling the same role
I just wanted to point out that “not knowing how to reload it” is kind of a silly argument
burnt wyvern
It's not even the reload that's the problem. It's the accuracy of them too
blazing tree
A rifled musket would preform similarly to a modern rifle
Account for modern powder and whatnot
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Model_1861 combined with the Minnie ball did fairly well
Combined with paper cartridges and whatnot, you could get maybe 5-6 shots off in a minute
faint dagger
Is there a difference between a rifled musket and a rifle? I thought the rifling is what made it a rifle.
blazing tree
Musket is analogous to meaning muzzleloading
faint dagger
Aah
pastel bramble
some muskets were breech loaders, actually, although they were rare
generally speaking a musket loads power and ball separately, whereas later guns used full cartidges
that said I'd be very in favor of more single-shot weapons, especially rifles on the cheaper side seeing as they're "older" for the games time period
things like the Martini Henry and the Smith Rifle
also more "modern for the time period" guns like Lee Enfield and Springfield models
blazing tree
Eh, I’m honestly good on weapon variants
Can’t seem to think of any niches that need filled
pastel bramble
oh it's not so much about niches anymore, except for pistols
pistols really need some decent mid-teir stuff, but I think there's still room for specification
blazing tree
Cut down Winfield is the best mid tier pistol
pastel bramble
mares leg would be kickass
pastel bramble
I use the silenced negant for trash mobs
but ugh its so bad now...
barely any range
mares leg and the lever action shotguns
blazing tree
And pump action rifles
whole plank
Wait... When does this game take place? Because the lore timeline goes up to 2018
I wounder if they plan to bring out a Hunt 2 one day set in modern day
stiff vector
It's in 1895
whole plank
So why does the lore go up to present day ;-;
Are we actually in the, "We're playing what the researcher is seeing!" sorta deal?
stiff vector
Because now the things were found I think
whole plank
So, we're... Playing, the lore being found?
stiff vector
I don't know I am not that much in the lore thingy.
low ice
yes harpy
forest condor
@whole plank It's not alternate universe, It's set in our earth with the only divergence being the apocalypse.
whole plank
That would be considered an alternate earth ^^'
forest condor
Since it's only got the apocalypse difference, one that doesn't affect everything it's not considered alt
If I'm getting this wrong please correct me @low ice
rotund ferry
Louisiana native resident here, I hereby approve of this game
cursive schooner
,,native"
low ice
@forest condor what apocalypse?
random lava
It's breakouts in places but not an apocalypse iirc reading stuff here
sinful mesa
curious about this game, is the lore behind the creatures based around Caribbean voodoo lore?
pastel bramble
not really, as far as I can tell, it's its own mythology but its about a demonic invasion from literal hell
wooden hawk
There anywhere I can actually read up on lore?
Never thought the game had much lore tbh
stiff vector
Read the pinned messages here and in #lore-discussion-hardcore
low ice
it doesn't have its own mythology
all of our monsters are from existing folklore
or spins on those
there's lore content we want to put into the game
technically we have more content than an average RPG at this point
outside the game it's up to marketing of course
and as for the in game content it's a matter of production priorities
forest condor
Forgot that it wasn't a full blown apocalypse my bad
hidden holly
Whats the lore behinde The water devils are they like a hive mind?
alpine sentinel
what is the lore behind the man that has the balls to go out and collect the hive bees for the hive bomb
pastel bramble
Is there a place where all the lore has been compiled so far? I'm really interested in it
Especially if it means making suggestions based around iy
Im particularly interested in the connection between the hunters and the monsters - even the new blood white shirts have some connection to hell, after all, given the ability to interact with clues and use dark sight, is beconing a hunter some kind of voluntary ritual or are some people just naturally attuned to it? Or is it just something that affects everybody in the area??
So many questions
rotund ferry
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stiff vector
@pastel bramble All Lore infos are in the pinned messages here and in #lore-discussion-hardcore I think
pastel bramble
cheersd
low ice
@pastel bramble I do not want to reveal too much yet
but early in development we decided hunters would not be super heroes
at least the AHA hunters
so yeah there's an initiation rite
pastel bramble
they shove a bounty shard in your spine and hand you a rifle, got it
low ice
I wish
pastel bramble
jokes aside, consider me intrigued
I'm reading the lore documents on the pinned pages rn
low ice
our newsletters and tweets contain more clues
pastel bramble
I'm just eating up everything I can find at the moment, but it seems most of my biggest questions are still filed under "to be revealed later"
speculation, though: banishing and obtaining bounties is one of the reasons hunters grow stronger when they extract successfully, and why they can be imbued with "traits" that are sometimes unnatural
as in they gain some kind of legit power from bounties if they can get them out, steal their strength sort of deal
burnt storm
You can extract and get levels without the bounty tho
pastel bramble
yes, but far less, that's just gaining expirence as you would normally
getting a bounty, and especially banishing a boss, nets you a lot of xp
I mean, killing monsters and other hunters and stuff, it makes sense that would make you progressively better at combat - you'd learn about different monsters and how they work, ect, ect
but the xp you get from those is small compared to the huge boost you get from bringing home a shard
low ice
there are the literal rewards the figurative ones
bounty gives you money sure
but some things are more valuable
once you are in the second circle... there's no way back
burnt storm
Extracting with the bounty isn't that big of an xp source. Killing T3 hunters is still what usually really boosts my xp gain up
pastel bramble
yes... tier 3 hunters
the ones with so much hell energy in their blood that they have burns, skin discoloration and think that human bones and ruined, muddy trench coats are the fashion statement of the season
burnt storm
Yet you used to get basically the same xp amount for them for a long time
pastel bramble
you used to also be able to leap off the top of Healing Water's church tower and not snap all your bones like twigs
I'
m probably wrong about the whole bounties = xp thing but who knows
(the devs, the devs know)
low ice
do not read too much into point values
burnt storm
Because that required coding and introducing a system, xp change is just a quick edit
amber harbor
It has to be gameplay and lore viable at the same time
pastel bramble
all that talk of "the second circle" and what not
has me thinking that Louisiana, and any other hotspots where there are portals/monsters/ect have actually crossed over into the first circle
probably wrong again, not that it'd be confirmed if I'm right, hah
ashen plover
I can't wait for the new lore stuff getting into the game. Although I understand there are more important issues to resolve first.
But it would be amazing to have more compound histories or researcher notes while we wait for the big stuff!
amber harbor
what if t3 are so camouflaged because they are running from the AHA trying to kill them?
and their rings are some form of protection from the AHA
finite elm
so what is the lore like from the very start, i didnt even think there was any lore till i joined the discord lol
stiff vector
Everything we know about the lore is in the pinned messages here and #lore-discussion-hardcore
upper sierra
What if the whole process of taking the energy of the clues and the bounty into the hunters body was actually opening them up for a demon taking control of them... Making their hard work, to get paid and clean up the world as best as they can, for not and actually spreading the plague?
queen mauve
thats pretty lame
slim hatch
I feel like Hunt is a world / story which rarely has happy ever afters
flint hearth
sure you do.
a few monsters slain and retirement?
seems good to me!
jokes aside i got an idea.
perhaps the darksight allows you drain power or essence from these creatures.
it may never have been intended but humans had little sparks of power in them
so perhaps some of the T3s are specifically hunting people.
to gather a far easier source of power
ashen plover
Okay this might be a lame question but i dont think we have ever gotten a clear answer to this.
Do people turn into grunts and other monsters or is the sculptor creating grunts on his own?
Because we do see a lot of dead people which aren't grunts
And I just want to make sure we are interpreting this right
amber harbor
who's the sculptor?
pastel bramble
as I understand it the sculptor is some kind of entity, possibly once a human, possibly not, that is responsible for the creation of several monsters, but not all of them
whether it's actually a physical being or more like a kind of sentient virus or curse is kinda unclear
its possible that things like the Butcher and Spider are Sculptor's doing, while things like Grunts and stuff happened more "naturally"
low ice
there's no such thing as a sculptor
low sleet
