wasn't totally visible in Louisiana but it was definitely visible
#lore-discussion
cold badger
hol up
im retarded
i meant to look for solar eclipse, not lunar eclipse
there were 3 partial solar eclipses that year, no totals
checking to see which ones went over america
hmmmm none of them went over the Americas
all europe
probably looking too deep into this
gleaming meadow
Nono i think you had the right one
cold badger
solar eclipses are different than lunar eclipses tho
this pic shows a solar eclipse
gleaming meadow
Check a few years prior, start of the incedent maybe
cold badger
there was a total solar in 1894
gleaming meadow
Hmm alright will keep in mind, dont see a way to connect this to something yet
cold badger
yeah nothing over the US in 1895 or 1885
oh well
it's probably something that will come into play
gleaming meadow
I still think the book has something to do with dark sight as well though, it's mentioned on the hunters desk that it hurts to read, he can't see the words but he can almost make them out. Perhaps dark sight and eclipses are related somehow
gleaming meadow
yo a new lore piece was posted, back to our modern researcher. holy cow the guy is tripping balls, letters moving all over his screen
This is the region where the blockade was, I also circled St Malo as that was the name I got off of blanchette church
hushed aspen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huot_Automatic_Rifle
Huot Automatic Rifle
The Huot Automatic Rifle was a Canadian World War I era light machine gun project.
found the avtomat bois
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Huot_Automatic_Rifle.jpg
lunar estuary
the avto is the same mechanism that the huot used pretty much
its just a bolt action rifle that is forced to float
with a massive cooling sleeve on the barrel because guns were even more prone to melting their barrels
whole blaze
Can i put "Iron Sharpshooter" to the Spark LRR? Or is it not a "bolt-action rifle"?
rotund ferry
doesn't work w the sparks
ashen plover
Has anyone tried to make something out of the floating letters in the latest lore tweet?
gleaming meadow
I tried... thats about it lol
very jumbled, it could possibly be something. maybe freeze it when the letters are out?
ashen plover
I'm going to try that!
ashen plover
I don't know what the flying letters mean but it seems to me that the researcher is developing some kind of uncontrolled dark sight...
like how the clues, when looking at them with dark sight, are displayed in game, blurred and with moving parts.
Also what our researcher is experiencing might be a symptom of yellow fever.
ashen plover
I'm not able to get anything out of the floating letters... Neither the actual letters nor any translations.
Might try again later
gleaming meadow
Yeah I have a hunch our researcher inherited dark sight, possibly a descendent of an AHA hunter
it could explain some of his interest in the research
I would rule out yellow fever, he went to the doctor already and they just told him to rest. no vomiting or stomach pains that we know of and he most likely would have noticed if his skin started yellowing. hallucinations could be a sign of fever though but it would have to be pretty severe
slim hatch
I like the ARG Vibe they take here but goddamit can i've just a lore book to digest instead?
rotund ferry
would you accept a youtube video instead?
slim hatch
No i just want solid lore texts all these snippets are very hard to track.
I'd need a whiteboard with everything written out including the effect during the post so i could see correlation
rotund ferry
srry not that kind of game
slim hatch
To keep track of all those entries
rotund ferry
not a dark souls fan?
slim hatch
Nope i consider dark souls to be very lazily written, it has a magnificent world but the delivery is so lazy and hacked that you can barely see any of that beauty.
Dark Souls in my opinion suffers from Lazy Writing and Storytelling
Puts on helmet since she just said something critical about a game that shall never be criticized
rotund ferry
not a mad max fury road fan?
slim hatch
I like mad max the whole universe and it's delivered imo far better. Not just fury road.
You can correlate elements backwards to previous entries and see connections rather than having bits and pieces everywhere.
rotund ferry
well think of dark souls and hunt like fury road
you want the other mad max movies but its not that kind of story
most of fury road's lore is not even in the movie
like the fact that drummer boys mask is his mothers face
Coma-Doof Warrior*
slim hatch
Yeah case of Coma but at least some background is given directly by Miller while Miyazaki never gave clarity. There is a fine line between adding filling to the lore of the universe and just brittling it. I'm not saying they should quit doing it that way, in the end it's their choice but I sure won't be spending too much time and effort with those scraps and instead just wait for the lore books that are coming. Let those who like such style of lore delivery handle it.
rotund ferry
well miyazaki wants you to make the story your own so he cant get into it too much
and im guessing hunt showdown will be the same thing
slim hatch
Yeah but it's not my story... it's his story. I'm there for his story, if i wanted my story I'd write my own or make a fan fic. Actually Blueplain wrote a few pieces as a fan fic to Hunt.
rotund ferry
i never pictured crytek as being kojima
slim hatch
Shudders Don't mention Kojima please XD
slim hatch
I just don't like Kojima himself.
gleaming meadow
Squaresoft does good stuff tho
slim hatch
Well to list a few universes which lore i'm well versed in
TES
WOW
Wildstar
Half-Life / Portal
Team Fortress
Dead Space
Mad Max
Mass Effect
Off the top of my head. I'm not saying any of them are perfect but at least I can give a solid answer or a very good hypothethesis based on available information.
And Obv. earlier Hunt lore seeing as I was one of the people who started the deep hunt for lore 😄
rotund ferry
the valve games and mad max are the only one of those lores id concider good
gleaming meadow
TES is my favorite lore <3 followed by dark souls
slim hatch
TES has too many cooks in the kitchen there are discrepancies that's the problem of TES
gleaming meadow
You dont consider tes good?
rotund ferry
i would preffer if people would stop discussing tes
slim hatch
WOW suffers from too many retcons which is basically "Ow shit this doesn't fit lore, well lets retcon."
gleaming meadow
Why?
rotund ferry
i have a guy living with me who keeps asking me to come into the living room to see what fucking new armor he put on his companion
yesterday it was forsworn
slim hatch
Alien and Predator lore both the own universe and shared universe are very interesting?
rotund ferry
its fucking 2018 and people still wont stfu about skyrim
gleaming meadow
I like early fallout lore too before bethesda got ahold of it
gleaming meadow
Also skyrim is my least favorite elder scrolls
Morrowind>oblivion>daggerfall>skyrim well i guess not least favorite but its at the bottom
rotund ferry
i mightve liked TES at some point, but this ONE GUY is burning me out on the game at light speed. He's been playing skyrim non stop for fucking years
gleaming meadow
Seriously though tes is like 20 years deep in lore
slim hatch
Anyway it's not about games they are all imo good games but when it comes to lore, i like my lore with clarity and in a way that if we start discussing / debating we can always say "Go to this [INSERT LORE TEXT TITLE Ex. Trials of Dr.Reed]" and it's the end of argument unless person finds something there that was missed.
gleaming meadow
2 words. Early Access.
Got to write it first lol
I wish it was consistent though and related
slim hatch
Yes and i'm fine with waiting, that's what i'm doing i'm just waiting as Lore writer already told us that she (the) can't answer any more of our questions and we will need to wait for lore books.
rotund ferry
in terms of lore i have a PH. D in MGS, a minor in valve games, im slacking on my kh lore do to series fatigue, and have a general good understanding of souls
gleaming meadow
But I really enjoy spaculating and piecing together
slim hatch
That's why i don't like these small snippets they post right now, is it red herring? Are those scraps from what we will find in Lore books later? And some stuff lets put it frankly is fairly irrelevant like knowing the price of meat at that year 😄
rotund ferry
cant think of any other series i know as much as mgs ever since i stopped giving a fuck about kingdom hearts
Idk i think lore books are counting your eggs before they hatch
slim hatch
- it's 3rd party source which kinda breaks the rule of "Deliver only through your own media"
gleaming meadow
Mgs, kh and dark souls. Are you about 25?
slim hatch
No it's confirmed that the lore books that will be coming like Books of weapons , books of monsters etc. Will be legit sources of lore
steady bone
anyone else see that the spider has 7 legs? 6 big ones with hooked feet and then 1 small mandible which is a hand
slim hatch
You mean in the art?
In the art yes, in-game don't think i've noticed it
One of the loading screen arts is an earlier concept of spider.
slim hatch
Well not fast enough when it's dead 😄
steady bone
yeah
gleaming meadow
Not faster than a screenshot
steady bone
you can always see a face when its dead
gleaming meadow
Not faster than a screenshot
rotund ferry
@gleaming meadow 2006 was so great!
you can tell how old someone is by how much they love kingdom hearts
gleaming meadow
Its just the type of person that picks it up
rotund ferry
well i was in middle school around the time
gleaming meadow
Same
rotund ferry
so heartless and nobodies just speak to you at that age
gleaming meadow
If youre like 20+ when kh came out then you most likely didnt get into it
gleaming meadow
G4 yesss, sadly I didnt have tv or pc or much of a console until I was like 17 though
rotund ferry
You have to be ripe with teenage angst to appreciate kingdom hearts and The world ends with you
gleaming meadow
Living in the woods in the middle of nowhere where you cant get internet sucks to grow up in xD
rotund ferry
you can still watch re-runs online if you want to pretend like you still have hope in "Fabula Nova Crystalis"
xemnas, xigbar, xaldin, vexon, zexion, siax, axel, dymnx, luxord, lexus, marluxia, larxean, roxas
gleaming meadow
Anyways its 4am, got to sleep. We should stop clogging up the lore channel though
rotund ferry
i wrote that by pure memory
cursive schooner
If I need to pick a Universe, then it is obviously 40k.
It's just too big and rich. Even nowadays I find a new thing to learn about it's dark corners. I very much like the Hunt lore so far, I hope it will not take a turn to make it a Honeypot.
minor peak
@tacit iron here.
gleaming meadow
@HuntShowdown September 24, 2018 at 06:33PM: http://twitter.com/HuntShowdown/status/1044263494168834051
Lightning is what the hunters see in dark sight when a bounty is being carried, coincidence?
Tempestatum veniat, latin for Weather arrives
@mellow jetty are there any hints you can give as to how our researcher ties into hunt or an estimation of when we might be able to get that info?
mellow jetty
K
gleaming meadow
Im kinda wondering if he is the one who put together the louisianna events book in game because some of those paper clippings are from like 1970s or so
minor peak
Dont expect an answer from a Rehab though. 😄
gleaming meadow
Not expecting one, but I can hope dor one
Another thing I was thinking, the world is still standing in present times so then most likely there is still AHA or a similar association at work
ashen plover
You can see the weather report in the background... Maybe a new sundering is happening?
gleaming meadow
Weather arrives, lighting and rain storms. We know spoilers are released through this guy, maybe it's a Storm Weather spoiler?
ashen plover
Definitely possible. Any idea what the voynich manuscript in the background has to do with anything?
gleaming meadow
It was used before on the last spoiler for water devils, its what encoded a king james bible verse
ashen plover
So the script is some kind of indicator that there is a spoiler present?
gleaming meadow
Not necessarily
However the voynich manuscript is a book, we might be able to find that page
Too blurry for me to tell which page and the book is like 50$, i think thats from the glossary though
ashen plover
Pretty sure its page 115
gleaming meadow
K maybe i can find a high res picture of it, do you habe one?
ashen plover
Sorry actually page 202
Pretty sure it hasn't been deciphered yet...
The weather report in the background of the tweet is from Thursday to Saturday in September... Maybe we will get something new then?
gleaming meadow
yeah I think that's the right page, that is ALOT to decipher though. not sure if it's worthwhile
sick vault
the real voynich manuscript has not been deciphered at all ^^ the voynich alphabet they use on the website and for the little hidden messages is something they made up
gleaming meadow
but wait, were we using a made up voynich that the hunt team made?
ashen plover
I think that the manuscript in the background is just there to be thematic
ashen plover
New compound lore: @HuntShowdown’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/HuntShowdown/status/1044572994943811586?s=09
Twitter
sick vault
Now I'm interessted to see if Graf is also the owner of Slaughter House or Davant Ranch.
gleaming meadow
1883 is that when the hurricane was?
ashen plover
According to the Reynard Mill and Lumber History there was a huricane in 1893
Also "the Panic of 1893"
sick vault
The "panic of 1893" is an economic depression. Graf lost a lot of money and tried to gain it back
ashen plover
It's interresting to see that they are reinforcing the idea of Graf doing something (horrible?) to his workers
ashen plover
Possible, however it doesn't really tie in with the "desperate experimental ways to increase their productivity" mentioned in the Reynard Lore
makes it seem a bit more extreme than overwork
gleaming meadow
Yeah for sure, I think graff and widow blanchette play some part in the appearance of the sculptor
ashen plover
Do we know when exactly the sculptor appeared?
gleaming meadow
I would imagine sometime between 1893 and 1895
Its not the first sculptor either
1893 the mill was still going right?
ashen plover
Okay... It is mentioned that Reynard mill and lumber was ready for work sometime between 1893 and 1894 but only continued to work for a year or so
gleaming meadow
Yeah and the game takes place in 1895 right
Its probably late 1895, late summer or early fall
The events going on in our time were talking about strange lighting in july
So probably august/september
ashen plover
Hopefully the present time researcher will have something for us soon...
gleaming meadow
My guess is around july the sculptor took interest then moved into action slowly into august, then full on into september everything was in the current state
Just a guess but it fits
ashen plover
But then the game must play sometime around the end of 1895 right?
gleaming meadow
Yeah probably around late september depending on how quickly the AHA went into action
Back to work, peace out
Ill b on later
ashen plover
Seems like they acted quickly considering that chapel Madonna noir is still burning
Yeah going to sleep... See you in the morning!
sick vault
the timeframe of the event in 1895 is ... strange. we got a letter from february about an open hunt to join the aha. Railroadtickets to new orleans from may and august, the hunter from the east arrives in april and already talks about the sculptor.
gleaming meadow
Then they probably knew of his presence and beforehand but not what exactly it was. My guess would be that it took a while to manifest control over the area, perhaps several months. It seems like many of the hunters underestimated it as well, perhaps even the AHA itself did not send enough men in the first place.
Actually longer than several months, he has probably had an affect on the area for several years.
That guess comes from the fact that both the church founder and graff started descending into madness after spending a while there.
My biggest suspect is widow blanchette since it was in their own church that those people were discovered dead after resorting to cannibalism and the discoverers perished soon after from a mysterious disease. Not only that but there is a book that can be found on the alter there that is the same book on the hunters desk, furthermore theres a leviathan cross (satanic cross) carved into one of the stands albiet long before satanism was a real thing
Maybe the Blanchettes formed a pact with a demon?
Sorry for rambling so much, I forget what im thinking about if I wait until later
ashen plover
But all that happened before the church had anything to do with the blanchetts.
The bodies where found in 1812 and Jacques blanchett funded the burial of the bodies in 1838
But I agree lady Blanchett does seem a bit shady
gleaming meadow
Could be the church then shrugs hard to remember all the details while im working lol
sick vault
the problem with the blanchetts invovlement is again time. The church cannibals and the mysterious disease was in 1812. Blanchett bought the church in 1838 (and was already a rich man). Lady (or at that time already Widow) Blanchett cursed Gird and the Healing Waters Church in 1870, she must have been realy old already
gleaming meadow
Not sure if she is a widow or her name is widow
On another note, just because the blanchettes got ahold of it in 1838 doesnt mean they were not involved with it prior. It mentions that Jaques Blanchette was rumored to be related to french aristocracy and the building is of french origin
Where was the attack of the demon hounds before?
Was it france?
Eh the wiki sucks for lore information
sick vault
I dont remember any demon hound attack. wasnt that just some lore channel speculation on the origin of the hellhounds, without any hunt lore evidence?
gleaming meadow
Maybe im trying to find it
Lore needs to be gathered up better..
Maybe tomorrow, I need to get to sleep. I want to improve this theory though as it seems plausible if I can fix the holes
cursive schooner
Then my next research area is Healing Waters
ashen plover
I'm starting to question the reliability of the compund histories. There are many supernatural and mysterious occurrences, however people at that time where very supposititious...
And when it is mentioned that "people at that time believed" i just think that it isnt really tangible
We know that the lore team is using unreliable narrators
Might be interesting to see a relation between the healing waters pastor and graf. If graf is in some way responsible for the stuff we see go down in the game, he probably needed some help from somebody who knows about theology. at least it seems like the sundering and the sculptor have connections to religion. I mean even the logo of the game is a cross and a upside down cross. And it would make sense timeline wise...
Sorry for the monologue
sick vault
Ishim Gird (healing waters church) told his followers, that external influences, greed and industry are all bad things. Graf bought land and businesses to industrialize them and make quick money. I don't think they would have been good friends ^^
ashen plover
Haha true! But when he grew older his opinions changed. I know its just major speculation...
sick vault
If we check the dates we could even argue that Graf was Girds downfall.
Everything went well for Gird until around 1880
-> in 1877 Graf bought and industrialized Port Reeker
-> Reeker was the biggest settlement around
-> most of Girds followers lived there
-> Gird began to preach against external influences and the modern industry
-> Gird turned against his followers and accused them of greed, pride and gluttony
-> he sealed himself and his devout followers off from the outside world
ashen plover
Thats a very interesting thought!
ashen plover
Do we know when the Louisiana event book was written or compiled?
cold badger
Theres a page from the 70s or 80s
ashen plover
I think its a bit weird. It looks like the thing was made a lot later. Firstly there is a news article talking about the graffiti in new Orleans which looks out of place. Secondly there are the news article snippets which look like they were labelled with a pen. And pens were not popular until the 1940s...
Probably just another big speculation on my side but it might be worth throwing out there
cold badger
Id say it was compiled in the 80s
ashen plover
I made a very basic timeline of the compound lore. Might be helpful and I'll try to update it in the future.
And please let me know if I missed anything!
gleaming meadow
awesome graph, we should get this pinned and add events to it
slim hatch
@ashen plover Good job
ashen plover
Thanks! I'd like to add other sources aswell but that will take time haha
slim hatch
Take your time but i think once it's completed it will be a damn great addition.
Obviously I think we will need to run through it and verify every single entry (Because precision!) but
¯_(ツ)_/¯
As long as you've the sources or even sources attached
Will be fairly easy
ashen plover
Of course! There are many things that we dont know the exact timing of
new lore btw @HuntShowdown’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/HuntShowdown/status/1045259289122811905?s=09
ashen plover
sweet citrus
i think the Young Roche is the butcher
gusty herald
Could be just a meathead as well
But definitely sounds interesting, could be the Butcher
ashen plover
Well there are multiple meatheads and just one butcher so...
Also there is a strong connection to pigs which young roche and the butcher share
Also the mention of him waking up to flames
sick vault
I need Stillwater next, for reasons
low sleet
I want Davant
sick vault
I'm pretty sure Davant will be the same as slaughter and reeker. Family business bought by henrik and his guys to make money
low sleet
ashen plover
I want that sweet pitching lore
cold badger
I want the evil dead cabin lore
hushed meteor
well i guess we know who the butcher is
cold badger
Lol yeah
gleaming meadow
Q_Q at work cant look til later T_T
Btw our researcher is showing signs of schitzophrenia i believe. Cant be positive though.
cold badger
I have 2 ideas of what may be happening
A) theres another supernatural "event" starting in 2018
B) He had a hunter ancestor and is unknowingly starting to channel dark vision
Also C) both
gleaming meadow
Yeah I came to the same conclusion as well, I believe bith to be happening
We know John Wayward Hunter had a daughter, I have a feeling this guy might be a descendant of hers.
As Dark Vision can be inherited, which means most likely he/she is a descendant of a hunter
Also I believe this guy lives in New Orleans as well, he talks about lightning there and his friends mention a C&A restraunt which there is 1 downtown new orleans
Is it possible he called 911 for an end of the world prediction? He was on the phone for 1/2 an hour and keeps dialing them
cold badger
Either some shit is going down and hes calling the cops or hes trying to get an ambulance cuz hes fucked up
ashen plover
I updated the timeline, added the Slaughterhouse information as best as I could and added the souce of the event as a description to make it easier to correct information in the future. You can see the information by clicking on the event.
gleaming meadow
Nice, also you gave me the idea to make one for the alternate time line thing. I was putting it together the other day
ashen plover
for the twitter posts?
I wanted to add them in aswell just color coded
I'm so hyped for this lore right now
Thanks so much for this amazing story crytek! 
odd bridge
@ashen plover theres a minor typo on the timeline
"Gird becomes mad and sealed himself away (late 1970s)"
1970's should be 1870's
other than that its a really good resource though man!
really helps to give a solid grasp of the lore's progression
ashen plover
Thank you for the feedback! I'll fix it right away
odd bridge
yeah no problem man!
gleaming meadow
Yeah the timeline really puts things into perspective and makes it easy to track the events of the lore
ashen plover
never mind what i just said, I think i am going mad
I added all the information with timepoints I could find in the Lousiana Event and in the #thisdayin1895 tweets
hope that helps
probably riddled with mistakes but I will continue to go over it
and thanks for all the feedback 
ashen plover
Sorry for the spam again...
I added one last thing for today, the things that happen to our modern times researcher
snow egret
What is the Panic of 1893? Do we know?
sick vault
financial crisis, a real event
snow egret
gotcha
gleaming meadow
Yeah its a depression, thought to be greater than the great depression at the time
slim hatch
Yes and there was an event 2-5 years before 1895 event
1893 falls into that time category
So they might be connected
Or even further we could push the theory that mass hysteria, panic etc. causes the veil between two worlds to become thinner
Just a thought nothing 100% will need to check on lore writers convos for those earlier events
Before i pitch a theory
cold badger
Yeah but the lore thinf was referring to the financial crisis
Thats why the giy lost all his money
snow pivot
I've spotted some man lying in the Pitching dungeon. It definitely wasn't a player nor a zombie. Does anybody know who is he?
past bone
@snow pivot This fella?
rotund ferry
holocaust survivor no really who is he?
slim hatch
@past bone We already called him "The Lamp Guy"
past bone
@slim hatch Haha, ah okey, why "lamp" tho? Think I've seen similiar bodies/corpses elsewhere, can't remember where.
Looks like a hepatitis victim
slim hatch
It goes back i noticed him randomly and checked for consistency i named him the lamp guy because he always lays with a lamp near him.
He was one of the first dead civs we found
And not sure if down the line they added more dead people or we became more observant
But kinda Lamp Guy stuck around
There is a question about him in pending question list and you can find earlier screenshots when i just found him
past bone
Oh, you're right! Haha, gonna search for more ^^ What is the question that's pending?
slim hatch
We were wondering if it's a red herring (aka we see meaning where there is none or he has a story behind it, so it's a general question of "Is there a story behind the lamp guy" ) just to get it out of the way
When you're digging for lore you sometimes start seeing meaning where there is none
And that causes the danger of basically going in the wrong direction
past bone
Ooh.. yeah, feel like that is going on alot here. Interesting reading tho 👌
slim hatch
So we put up a question about him and ceased any further investigation / research in his case
Yes but my goal is to define the world of Hunt.
Aka if someone comes in and says "How do you get Dark Sight?"
I can tell them that according to Wayward's letter it can be inherited as the case of his daughter and according to one of the lore writers there is a ritual.
So i give 2 clear answers on how to get Dark Sights based on lore material available
But i won't be able to answer what the ritual is as we have no info on it yet.
Basically my focus is to define facts of the universe.
And also try to keep us focused on analysis and critical thinking instead of fan-fic and wild speculations without much basis.
past bone
Aye, nice job! Feel like there's hella lot of interesting lore lurking! I still wonder what the connection to "our time" has to do with anything (the hints, memos etc we get to view) Some kind of AC/Animus thingy? 😛
slim hatch
Doubt it...
It's more likely while we play in 1895
The new short snippets we see
Is proof that world will not end after 1895 and Hunters exist in modern day setting as well.
slim hatch
You know the movie style where it all takes place in medieval but occasionally falls to modern day setting where someone is actually researching that setting and what you see in the movie is merely a depiction of what has already happened?
Not a popular genre but i recall at least 1 film
I'll try to see the title
past bone
Yes, please do!
slim hatch
The Myth (With Jackie Chan) is this type of film
Jigsaw (Saw 8) and Saw 2 uses similar trick where time concept is skewed in presentation.
I think they are going for the same concept
past bone
Ooh, I get what you mean now
Interesting
So these messages etc are coming from, their ancestors?
slim hatch
No
slim hatch
Rather whoever is the modern day guy.
Is looking back into 1895
To learn of the events
past bone
Yeah, but why did he even start?
slim hatch
Maybe he is with AHA or some organization like or dervied from them?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
We don't know
It's just narrator type character atm.
slim hatch
Nope don't think so
At least i'd assume yes but we can't confirm it for certain as the modern day guy is obscured.
past bone
He has a email conversation with someone at one point right?
past bone
Don't know if i've seen em all, in order. Is there a compilation?
slim hatch
I'm not the one to ask about it. Maybe @cold badger knows
past bone
There's a lord-wiki or something isn't there?
slim hatch
You're free to dig through them and report your findings.
Ummmm actually i don't think anyone of the hardcore guys actually focuses on writing the wiki
(Yes i know we are bastards for it)
past bone
Aye, allready have so many speculations 😄
slim hatch
But we do provide compilation docs and presentations.
With confirmed information
YOu can find it under pins.
past bone
Oh! juicy indeed!
slim hatch
THere is actually another QnA Doc
That isn't pinned here due to it being not finished
But you can find it under #lore-discussion-hardcore pins
past bone
Really hope that you can find lots of lore spread out on the map for people to discover along with the looting that's coming. I'll be sure to check here more often 😉 👌
slim hatch
Cum bach any time
ashen plover
I've been following the story of the modern day researcher and in my opinion it seems a bit more important than to just make the whole 1895 time more interesting
I mean that guy has his own story arc
With many posts not related to 1895 in any way
This is what i am talking about: https://twitter.com/HuntShowdown/status/1045259289122811905?s=19
past bone
What's your point? @ashen plover
ashen plover
I think something interesting is about to happen to the researcher that will probably affect something in the game
ashen plover
We know for a fact that he has been leaking information of future updates
past bone
The last messages have been like the one you posted right? Like the visuals are a bit off and stuff?
slim hatch
He might provide some interesting info
ashen plover
@past bone yep
past bone
Now he's calling 911, maybe he's freaking out. Its happening again?
Is it Dr. Reed who mentions visual distortion before he "turns"?
proper cradle
considering the folders and file could be records of the experimentation, there is a good chance
past bone
Judging by Dr. Reed's last letters I would guess this guy are having symptoms similiar. Damn, give us more
slim hatch
Yes hallucinations and denationalization seem to be one of the influence symptoms
past bone
Aye, that was the latest one posted too right?
The "911 call"
If so, next update sure will be interesting
ashen plover
Yes the 911 one was the latest
Seems like there is a new outbreak coming... Someone call the AHA
Who do I have to ask to get the timeline pinned? 
proper cradle
if you can find it for me I can pin it
proper cradle
slim hatch
@proper cradle grant him to us he has earned it
snow pivot
@past bone Yes, I was talking about that guy with lamp
past bone
Ehem, don't you mean "The lamp man"? 
proper cradle
done
ashen plover
I feel ascended
gleaming meadow
Modern research guy is definitely my favorite and I find him to be the most interesting piece of the story right now :D
ashen plover
totally, really hyped for the next tweets!
gleaming meadow
I want to know what kind of proof he has
ashen plover
Sadly we probably have to wait until Monday :(
gleaming meadow
Btw I think the guy is going to school to be a journalist judging from his earlier posts. Dont quote me on that yet though, I can't remember the picture but I was going over them the other night and he was talking to a buddy and mentioned it
fathom badge
I mean for all we know he might be dead after that last one
gleaming meadow
In an email he is writing he refers to a "professor" about a mythollogy syllabus on the course site. His buddy r. Daniels is a publisher/journalist. Goes by the username "mythmade
Either going to school to be a historian or a journalist, lives in new orleans and there is a seafood shop near his house his buddies goto named C&A
The james burke via linked in and his interest in the past make me think more historian
ashen plover
Haha that might he the most information we have got on a single character in the whole hunt universe
But we dont know for a fact that this is all the same person (sorry to be that guy)
gleaming meadow
Its the same computer folders in EVERY screenshot ;)
ashen plover
Haha good point
gleaming meadow
He also has a folder labeled loose ends on his desktop in the early posts, i think that was things he couldnt quite tie together
Before he had proof
Like me...
XD
I wish they didnt have a unisex username though so we could know if theyre a guy or girl
chilly laurel
I'm curious, are some of the hunters that are hirable, (very rarely of course) get one that actually owns some of the places? for example The Slaughterhouse owned by a man named William Roche ? I think that would be very interesting
gleaming meadow
William Roche is speculated to be the butcher right now, it would be kind of strange to hunt yourself down and banish yourself to hell now wouldn't it?
Most of the people mentioned in the compound lore have gone raving mad and locked themselves away, most of their fates are undetermined as of yet I believe
However if there was a hirable owner I would be on the lookout for Widow Blanchette when female hunters come out lol. She seems like a real "Get off my lawn!" Old lady
ashen plover
Haha that is too good
gleaming meadow
Imagine rocking through the bayou cleansing the infestation in her swamp one double barrel shot at a time.
past bone
Im betting he's feeling the symptoms of "turning", it's that theory that feels most reasonable to me 😛 Next post/hint whatever.. is bound to be interesting I would say
Also think Louisiana Asylum will be a part of next map
gleaming meadow
I think if he was turning he would be seeing and feeling moths
Just a thought though
past bone
Why specifically moths? Because one person is documented to doing that? (Correct if im wrong but) @gleaming meadow
Every hint has shown him getting more worried, confused, sick.. hallucanating etc.. (spelling) Feels very similar to Dr. Reed's memos as it gets worse and worse for him.. Just speculating huheh
gleaming meadow
The entire feel of it and the way it plays out is completely different.
past bone
How so?
gleaming meadow
Read it, then browse through the pictures of the guys life.
past bone
Must have been different for and everyone? Hives, "zombies" etc etc
gleaming meadow
The guy is in a panic where as dr reed just kinda forgot everything including himself and his personality was just kinda gradually replaced
past bone
What does his have to do with how he feels?
Well, as I said. Just because Dr. Reed's "turning" is the one documented doesn't mean that the same goes for everyone?
He is believed to be the, or part of the spider..
Bet Dr. Reed would call 911 aswell if he could 😛
gleaming meadow
Idk its pointless arguing over this because neither of us even have any real backing.
past bone
Im not arguing, just asking questions on why you believe what you believe? Thought that was a constructive conversation. No offense dude, maybe we don't know jack shit 😛
gleaming meadow
Oh, I just didnt want to clog up chat with 100 messages back and forth over something
past bone
Well, it's about "lore" so I think this forum is the most fitting for the discussion ^^
ashen plover
The thing is, what is happening to the researcher could be that he's turning, it could also be him inheriting dark sight or it could be something completely different. We don't have any concrete proof atm.
slim hatch
@past bone unfortunately moths seem pike a huge piece of process even if you discard Dr.Reed’s notes there is also banishment process to back it up, all the giant hives and insect aspect of some of the monsters (Hive and Armored)
cursive schooner
I just returned from healing waters, I checked Every **** grave (even the little outside ones in the open field)
With Darksight and without. Nothing; no name, scrach or mark.
I stumbled up on some interesting facts tho
Just like Blachett this part of the map has another giant tree with an unaccesable area
still looking for a way to get out of balance
An I think I find the bedroom of the priest Gird
and it has some art in the room and one that is showing us a furnace
For the record in Blancett and Healing Water the columns share the same nest kinda look
gleaming meadow
not quite sure what im trying to find in the first picture, the second one however... is that a cremation furnace? and the third, i never really noticed that only the churches have hive like work in them
Healing waters and crematorium must be tied together somehow, curious if lamp guy is gird. Hoping to find out in the next compound lore.
can we find that furnace and see whats inside?
anybody want to team up and lore hunt? NA-W
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/420222060623822858/495662715625537547/594650_screenshots_20180929202841_1.jpg?width=832&height=468 somebody found this and posted it in screenshots
thats another hive/eggsack thing right?
slim hatch
Posted it long before some people claim it's Groot easter egg
gleaming meadow
hmm, where is it?
gleaming meadow
mkay, ill have a look around for it. really doesnt look like groot...
seems suspicious
it was mentioned that the sculptor could even possibly sculpt inanimate objects because he was far more cunning and powerful than any sculptor before him right?
gleaming meadow
found more leviathan crosses in healing waters, the cross in the main hall is flipped upside down as well
gleaming meadow
not sure, both churches have egg sack hive looking things and both churches have leviathan crosses
gleaming meadow
surprisingly there is no sightings of moths or the like in game, I find that kind of strange since Dr. Reed said they were everywhere, perhaps just hallucinations
gleaming meadow
oh. hmm
slim hatch
Small green moths fly out of the boss
gleaming meadow
interesting
slim hatch
- Technically hive might be attacking you with moths as well
gleaming meadow
yeah
slim hatch
But so far unconfirmed flying insects
gleaming meadow
has anybody examined armored more closely?
ashen plover
What we know is that they are a special kind of grunt with a "chitonic crust" (desk of a hunter)
Again with the insect reference
gleaming meadow
I assume somebody has found him, but there is another "fresh" looking body near lamp guy
cold badger
yeah lot of bug stuff with the infection
cursive schooner
@gleaming meadow It would be fun to Hunt, Hunt lore together!
cyan aspen
I've been very much into the Lore of other games but haven't tried with this game yet where should I start.
cursive schooner
With the pinned posts
dim mauve
as someone very interested in the lore of this game but cant find anything, can someone give me a quick rundown or link to one?
dim mauve
oh thank you
burnt storm
Pined massage sounds intriguing
low sleet
sterile sonnet
can we talk about the "she opend her eyes and sat up" at the top of the tweet ???
shes got black eyes at the last frame of the effect
this is getti g really interesting
cold badger
Was just asking about that but ok...
ashen plover
pretty sure that wasn't there before
gleaming meadow
it wasnt
no jr jsd yslrm yjr es;;st yjr hjostsss gtp, yjr es;;
think this is a code or gibberish?
gleaming meadow
I think it's some kind of cipher, maybe there is something on the desktop or in the letter that can help crack it
cold badger
I think its random typing cuz of the semicolons
gleaming meadow
they could represent double letters
im not sure though.
but the same letters come before the semicolons both times
es;;st and es;;
just got to find a word like that
lapis ferry
@cold badger I think the "she opened her eyes and sat up" is a reference to the Bible verse Acts 9:40 "Then Peter sent them all out of the room. He knelt down and prayed, and turning toward her body, he said, “Tabitha, get up!” She opened her eyes, and seeing Peter, she sat up. "
gleaming meadow
i was thinking that too
lapis ferry
just curious, I'm a little late to the lore game, but what exactly are these "This Day in 1895" Tweets for? General amusement or will there be a big reveal at the end?
cold badger
Its moving towards a reveal
lapis ferry
kool
cold badger
at least thats how i feel about it
supple sable
Could it be leading towards a modern day hunt ?
gleaming meadow
Unlikely, not only would it change the whole feel of the game but they would have to make a new arsenal to accompany it and new hunter models because modern people don't look like they just climbed out the trenches of the civil war
Basicly a whole new game. It could setup for a Hunt 2 in modern times however if crytek wished for that. Seeing as this game is a long ways off from completion that is unlikely but not so much as to rule out.
ashen plover
But it does seem weird that we have such an in-depth story line happening at a time the game has nothing to do with
Although i too think modern hunt isn't happening
supple sable
Yeah I thought it would be a longshot. I also noticed on one of the screen shots a folder labeled time machine. Could the researcher maybe have some kind of access to go back in time ?
Also a little farfetched
ashen plover
There has been another reference to time travel but honestly i dont think thats enough to proof anything
On another note why is the researcher referencing el Paso? Until now the research was focused on london and Louisiana (mainly New Orleans)
New map confirmed??? (Nah thats just wishful thinking 
)
ashen plover
The only other time we heard about el paso was in the newspaper clipping in the Louisiana even book
Along with John Wesley
cold badger
John Wesley Hardin
a lot of erroneous data in his explanation of what happened though
like his sudden mention of "dissection"
ashen plover
Yeah i'm in the dark about what is going on in the latest tweets
I have a theory that this tweet is a mix of a few previous notes. For once because it keeps saying my notes at the end and also because the information seems somewhat familiar
Maybe to hide a secret message but there is still the possibility of me going crazy ¯_(ツ)_/¯
gleaming meadow
not sure, when they hide something its hidden very well though
gleaming meadow
Referring to the machine they could be talking about the computer.
They're still not spelling right but it seems like they have gotten somewhat better.
ashen plover
Definitely talking about the computer... He was complaining about the monitor on a previous tweet
cold badger
t r u
light moat
it possible to create a channel for french players please!?
slim hatch
Le wrong le channel
Baguette.
Shit stupid joke but i just couldn't resist sorry. didn't mean to be cruel / rude.
unkempt mountain
Water Devils = People or fish?
This loading image and tooltip lead to confusioon
Many though leeches or some sort of thing because of it's tentacle appearance
But this tooltip means that something "different" could be below the water's surface
unkempt mountain
Yeah, the sections we see look like this
But we don't see under the surface of the water
Which is also what we could be seeing in that loading screen
fathom badge
nah, that's an older version of the spider @unkempt mountain
unkempt mountain
Weird that it has a Water Devil tooltip then
spring anchor
I TOLD U SO
slim hatch
Tooltips don’t always match the image.
stray wave
what's the point of fort Carmick history and how is it related to Hunt Showdown?
ashen plover
random lava
This isn't the place to discuss this
stray wave
exactly, there is no place to have these discussions
slim hatch
Read it not much yet
@stray wave Hurrr durrr look at me! I'm pissed off so I'll throw a childish tantrum breaking the order so i get attention because childish tantrums totally get shit solved!
Gotcha mate!
random lava
@stray wave I mean you have #hunt-general #350201608296202251 #game-questions
But lore isn't the place to discuss when an update will come.
@slim hatch passive aggressive comments towards people never solved anything either so please don't do that
slim hatch
Ow no no that wasn't passive aggressive that was clear mockery ¯_(ツ)_/¯
But okay mom....
sick vault
what is this map teaser doing in my compound lore 😦
ashen plover
:(
gleaming meadow
Mary the pen
is that whats scribbled out on bottom?
we know anything about a Daniel McGown?
fathom badge
the last two letters to me look like "flee plan"
ashen plover
Any ideas who McGown is?
The Fort Carmick picktures look like very early development artwork if this truly is part of a new map (sorry if this is off topic)
haughty saffron
Pretty interesting that the researcher was calling the computer "The Machine". I mean... sounds like how someone from the past would refer to an unknown piece of technology.
Could he be getting possessed by something old?
haughty saffron
Well.. can't be older info. Since he had the computer yesterday, but doesn't have it today. Obviously, the "smashing" was a recent incident 😄
cold badger
yeah i think the researcher is writing still
ashen plover
Does anyone know whether the researcher is posting pictures of the notes or it is seen from his/her point of view?
Because if it is pictures its likely that the computer/monitor/machine was actually "infected"
Maybe the sculptor found a way to possess technology?
Or if it is the researchers view, the symptoms might be more evident when looking at a screen
gleaming meadow
I feel like its from the researchers PoV, however we don't really have any way to confirm that
gleaming meadow
It was noted that the sculptor could possibly affect inanimate objects, if he wasn't killed in 1895 he might still be working around new orleans. he was said to be far more powerful than any other sculptor they've ever encountered
cursive schooner
Or it is a new one
gleaming meadow
I would be willing to wager that if demons can come back after being banished (which is a popular legend?myth? that they don't die) it may be the same one as before, been down in hell awhile and much stronger
slim hatch
We haven't faced any demons / entities yet.
Only their creations.
Butcher and spider are creations of sculptor but they are made of the human world.
gleaming meadow
I was referring to the sculptor
cold badger
Wesley and Schrott = Webley and Scott
new non-gun company to add to the roster
i quite like these names lol
gleaming meadow
theres names on a barrel of smoked pork at the entrance to the unedrcroft in healing waters too if you want to add that
cold badger
also birmingham is switched to brighton
hm
yeah @gleaming meadow maybe we should compile a list of all ingame companies
probably wont lead to any new info
but it'll be neat info to have on hand
gleaming meadow
its good for reference
cold badger
Gun Companies:
gleaming meadow
of in game companies
cold badger
Romero, Caldwell, Crown and King, Sparks, Specter, Winfield, Wesley and Schrott, Dolch (possibly?)
then there are all the local businesses
gleaming meadow
there are items around the map that have labels with names of companies on them as well
not many but ive seen a handful, didnt screenshot because I deemed them relatively unimportant to what I was looking for
past bone
Does "The Lamp Man" have a brother? 😛
slim hatch
Lämp man’s Bröther
cold badger
loomp
astral yoke
crown and king is fabrique nationale, caldwell is colt, winfield is winchester, dolch is mauser, sparks is sharps, specter is spencer, romero is stevens, and wesley and schrott is webley and scott
cold badger
crown and king is "Browning"
and caldwell is kinda pseudo-colt because Caldwell is a character in the lore.
ashen plover
Check out @HuntShowdown’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/HuntShowdown/status/1049237995432435712?s=09
Oh boy
mellow jetty
ashen plover
Thats the same picture brightened up?
low sleet
y
haughty saffron
Maybe our researcher is in a dark room, developing some photos?
You can clearly see that this is a rectangular image, skewed sideways
cold badger
Hmmm
analog cipher
Thanks @mellow jetty
I was just trying to figure it out. :P
arctic wind
Do you guys have like a wiki or quick intro to the lore
been playing since ea relase but never got into it
burnt storm
Check pinned messages @arctic wind
arctic wind
fair enough, ty
arctic wind
Could someone outside the AHA just decide to grab a gun and figure out what is wrong with this guys? Has the AHA enough power to cut an entire zone off? All the characters are at some level related to the AHA right?
fathom badge
U.S. post boss confirmed
First ever mob boss
Like 40 infected postmen screaming at you
cold badger
courier 6 boss confirmed
mellow jetty
@analog cipher No problem
cold badger
prisoner zombies confirm
burnt storm
It says map two @vagrant glacier
cold badger
what about it
burnt storm
It says map two and crytek above that, yes. Nothing interesting
vagrant glacier
Awww damn
Well, guess it's back to watching every single little frame in the video and trying to come up with crazy theories
One thing that bothers me though, if the hunters are dead, who is filming?
burnt storm
It's a sculptor home video 
vagrant glacier
I bet that prison did great when people started turning
And if it was the Sculptors home video then he needs to work on his editing skills
burnt storm
shots fired 
cold badger
". A former prisoner-of-war camp in the fort’s vicinity was developed into a penitentiary."
so yeah prison confirmed
cold badger
PUBG mode
vagrant glacier
Superlong corridors with no cover and that are vary narrow
cold badger
"we droppin prison boys"
vagrant glacier
Imagine if they allowed Hellhounds to be in the corridors
Sculptor cackles in background
leaden summit
where to get started on hunt lore
vagrant glacier
Two years of playing "The Black Watchmen" down the drain for me.
Can't even figure out a cipher anymore
burnt storm
Pinned messages @leaden summit
leaden summit
thank
austere estuary
where is that from
vagrant glacier
Maybe that could be my contribution to this community.
I'll make a TL;DR version of the lore for people to get into
austere estuary
Ah, neat
burnt storm
And there's also a wiki page with some lore somewhere. Never checked it out tho
austere estuary
1895 or so
austere estuary
You should check around that list of papers and shit inside the game
there's some stuff in there that's interesting
vagrant glacier
Yeah screw it, I'm going to make a TL;DR version of the lore
leaden summit
thank
ashen plover
that's an awsome idea
olive bramble
what does the girl say at the end of the teaser
burnt storm
Rise up dead men
humble temple
next boss
lusty valley
Did that rifle look like a lebel 1886 to anyone else?
Would be a nice addition alongside pick up muskets
cold badger
That pic is supposed to be the civil war so id hope it isnt a lebel lol
lusty valley
Are you sure the “War” isn’t meant for two things?
Look at that uniform.
Thats definitely not standard issue civil war.
cold badger
they reused hunter models
odd sundial
Yo guys
I have something interesting to tell you
It's trelated with the teaser
the first man that died in 1861 in one battle was a soldier called lawson
And I think
That rise up deadman is related to him in some way
And i'm talking about the rise up deadman in the end of the teaser
What do you think?
digital finch
I dont hear anything at the end of the teaser that says "rise up dead man"
lusty valley
Rise up dead man is the name of the song that plays in the main menu.
Its also the motto for the Hunters
Also, Why would they reuse a cowboy for the Civil war? There’s plenty of characters that wear war attire, but they had to choose the wrangler? 🧐
cold badger
True true
iron hazel
New to lore feed, can someone explain the sculptor to me?
iron hazel
Okay, thanks
In other news I have a theory about what map 3 could be
Cuba
Crytek has taken the Bayou description off of the roadmap for map 3
Crytek loves it's jungles
With the Spanish American war being in 1898 it's in the right timeframe for a bunch of Americans to go to Cuba
Cuba has jungles on the Eastern side, even more so back in the 1890s
Cuba and the rest of the Caribbean have a cultural history full of voodoo magic, especially in the Dominican.
It seems to fit, but it's just a theory
lusty valley
A GAME THEORY
I’m sorry
but, I can see that being a thing but I’m not sure if crytek just wants to keep it in Louisiana or not.
copper rose
i think it can be possible in the Louisiana event lore there are graffitis with those strange markings in new york
meaning the event has happened beyond Louisiana
or at least some manifestation of that event to an extent
i wonder if there is a cult involved here? some kind of lovecraftian cult
warm fable
i think its the spider and/or butcher that turns people into grunts because of the end of the trailer the spider jumps on him and then the girl says rise up dead man
iron hazel
Maybe this sculptor is so powerful it creates these monsters that used to be men like the spider and the butcher, and those in turn use the bit of power invested in them to create the other creatures we kill.
past bone
Knew the asylum was gonna be in this map 👌
vagrant glacier
Wait, did the civil war even happen in this timeline?
vagrant glacier
Gotcha
ashen plover
I updated the timeline but i left out the newest #thisdayin1895 pictures because I don't want to spread any wrong or incomplete information
slim hatch
@warm fable Well unfortunately no it's already confirmed kinda sorta that Butcher and Spider are just one of the more intricate creations of sculptor,
Sculptor is the one in who makes the monsters.
lusty valley
Is that a spider that jumps up at the end? Or is that the hand of a zombie?
pure wigeon
Hi if anybody is interested i believe i know what language the writing in the new map teaser is. I believe it is the voynich alphabet since i found one letter/number for every symbol. It doesn't make much sense and it might be wrong but you are welcome to see yourself. This is the writing https://images.gutefrage.net/media/fragen/bilder/welche-sprache-ist-das-farsi/0_big.png?v=1539099375629
+a
and this is the voynich alphabet http://www.voynich.nu/img/extra/v101a.jpg
the outcome of my decoding was this (oni e29) but many symbols look the same so pls check yourself
burnt storm
@pure wigeon Haha that's a bit simpler actually
It says "Map two" there 😛
Here's the alphabet hunt uses
pure wigeon
ffs
my friend and i have been working on this for a while
anyway it was fun
thanks though
burnt storm
No problem 👌 You're making me doubt that it's that simple now tho
fathom badge
with it being in voynich, I assume there's some bigger meaning to it - although the spelling doesnt change
possibly "Map Two" is their way of saying there will be more
or even just trying to camouflage it into the "Historic" looking slideshow - having just 'Map Two' would probably not sit well in that old slideshow
brazen coral
i need to get into the lore of this game, having played as much as i have without looking into the story feels like im missing something. Where can i get caught up without going waaaay back into the chat logs?
low sleet
Pinned messages
brazen coral
wait
low sleet
Here and Lore Hardcore
brazen coral
yeah i just saw the google doc
time to write this all into a notebook and study it when im on breaks at work
civic relic
what year does the game take place?
minor peak
1895
snow egret
https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntShowdown/comments/9nlo6k/walls_didnt_load_in_gaving_a_much_better_view/
This easter egg is interesting
Likely not something lore related?
arctic wind
Lol got the same bug
past bone
@snow egret Cool! Hint at a new type of enemy? Or just "left-overs" that didn't make the game? Can't see as anything else.. Unless it's a reference/easter egg that I don't get. The shape of their bodies looks cool tho
arctic wind
Got a screenshot too
snow egret
Could purely just be a fun easter egg. But was wondering if there's anything lore related about who these people were and what happened
Since they were playing a board game, looks like their deaths were pretty sudden
past bone
Oh I beg the differ, one thing, they look less human then the regular grunts..
I mean.. Could totally see this as a new enemy. Fast, blind, and can climb trees and shit 😛 But yeah, you could be right.. but what easter egg is it then? Someone has to know if that's the case. The others I've found I recognized except for this tree that is supposed to be a marvel superhero tree or something, didn't know that (Evil Dead cabin is so damn cool)
Oh yeah, they are all like "connected" at their feet section aswell
past bone
Like they were in a hive of some sort
Right?
@cold badger Oh, no not been there myself just saw the post
sinful trout
I'd be interested in what forced these two into dying there. What could've fused them together at the base?
Because you're right spark. It looks like the base of them is that creepy mesh stuff found in buildings.
past bone
@sinful trout Aye, and there's 4 of them in total around that table if you look closely.. Playing Mahjong for some reason 😛
upbeat onyx
What’s like the main lore about the spider like how did she get here
sinful trout
spider was created by the demon that we call the sculptor
out of 1-2 people and at least 1 horse
past bone
upbeat onyx
@past bone @sinful trout thanks guys
snow egret
spider was created by the demon that we call the sculptor
out of 1-2 people and at least 1 horse
Interesting. How do we know that?
sinful trout
check the link spark just posted
thats reed. our current suspect of the spide
that and you can litterally see a hoof, a human face and other things
like arms
snow egret
I'm not seeing the hoof 🤔
past bone
Me neither, look att the spill of his medicine.. I mean, c'mon
His last memos before not being able to understand him
sinful trout
its one of the spiders feet
its pretty clear when hes dead
reed is a suspect spark
not guarenteed
i know some people Cough @slim hatch believe he IS the spider
cough cough
past bone
@sinful trout Never said he was the spider for sure? Just saying that everything points to that, and i've checked his corpse and never noticed these hoofs you're mentioning, just his face
I Believe he IS the spider aswell
cold badger
LOL yeah that too
modern wigeon
Hey guys, I'm trying to write a Hunt DnD campaign, and I want it to have as much lore is as I can, could you guys please help me with this?
cold badger
yeah theres a lot of lore in pinned
thats where we put all the big lore summaries
also the lore blogs on the game website
slim hatch
=.= Yet the active list of questions stays unanswered
low ice
oh
sorry
I was on holidays
link me
to the questions
I'll write answers
immediately
low ice
any other questions?
river rain
@low ice . Would you be able to tell us aproximently how much time has passed from the initial over running of the town (I will use the start of doctor Reads experiences as an example) to when the hunters actually show up? I assumed it was not for, at the minimum, several days because doctor Reads journal spans several days. we also show up and fires are still active, lamps are not burned through all there oil, and there are horses that are just injured not dead. witch after a couple days without water would kill them so i assumed it was a couple days but not much more than that.(obviously not everything is nitty gritty. I know Its probably game mechanic stuff but still). so yah... my question is what is (apoximently) response time of AHA to an incident from the time the dead first start to rise again to hunters actually arriving.
low ice
hummm
sure there's the game mechanic aspect of it all
but the answer is
not too much
the whole story of this supernatural crisis (hah!!) is a bit more complex
it's a perfect shitstorm of events coming together
over a longer period
what you see is the consequence
as to when "shit hit the fan"
it's not years
it's more like months
one more thing I'd like to mention is
elsewhere on the interwebs I have seen people talking about a "zombie apocalypse in the 19th century"
this is NOT an apocalyptic situation
the rest of the world is ... fine
sinful trout
So it's just a couple small pockets that is contained by the hunters association?
fathom badge
Probably less "contained" and more "unable to spread farther right now"
Though the hunters killing the two "boss" catalysts could count as a 'contain'
sinful trout
Well it's the issue of actual Zed's getting out and walking around. And preventing civilloans from entering so there would have to be a containment protocol for it
@low ice one final question before I cease firing a barrage of questions at you, can you give any information on what we're actually picking up from the bosses? Yeah yeah I get it it's a token but what actually is it?
low ice
it's a unique part of their body containing a fragment of their soul
sinful trout
Interesting.
sinful trout
what are the odds of father Nico and Dr. Winkler being part of "the Spider?"
gleaming meadow
Been gone awhile... I will surely be back sometime though! I see we have a loremaster now :D and more stuff to work with. I look forward to diving back in soon
low ice
@sinful trout Hmmm... Roughly 51.23 percent
ashen plover
Pretty good odds
ashen plover
Is Graf involved/responsible with/for the outbreak?
low ice
😃
modern field
The whole lore premise of infection and other abomination reminds of ten plagues of Egypt.
Water In Blood / water is good for transporting infection
Frogs / rodent infection
Lice / Hive, cocoons, and other insect breeding methods
Mixture Of Wild Animals / Spider, aggressive dogs
Diseased Livestock / Dead cows, pigs, horses everywhere
Boils / Infection
Locusts / Hives can probably find a nice dark place to mutate into huge hives.
Darkness For Three Days / Dark sight = Sight of HELL world.
Death Of Firstborn / Whatever can be interpreted here. Still reading the lore. Maybe there's something.
Anyway, just a thought.
cold badger
frogs=rodents is a bit of a stretch
low ice
as I said in the hardcore channel too
always remember that Hunt text is highly subjective
do not take words literally
just because it looks like an infection doesn't necessarily mean it is
or what you understand from the term Infection may be different
or not 😃
gleaming meadow
Can we trust the things you say? o_O you might be covering something up... like the reports in game
rotund ferry
ITS THE WORK OF THE DEVIL
cursive schooner
Report the lore master for desinformation!
nimble river
Sorry for backtracking, but the spilling medicine picture has the middle branching out to what looks exactly as the Armored's hand on the picture from the Hunter's Desk
cold badger
is this a society
tough venture
"Blood purifier" either it's a health potion or...it's a poison to use against the monsters.
random lava
does the bottle say extract from leeches?
tough venture
Looks like, yeah, LOL. "Pure extract from leeches"
cold badger
Leech extract is a real medicine
it uses the leech's anticoagulents to clear arteries
junior pecan
New to the discord here, do we know if the sculptor is inherently evil? I know it is at least related to the sickness, but are the zombies and sickness so bad? They seem to be longer living than normal humans, perhaps the sculptor is helping? 1890's weren't exactly a civilized time for humanity.
sinful trout
great job @nimble river on that catch! reposting in lore hardcore
nimble river
junior pecan
I had always hoped in my headcanon that the Hunters were killing eachother due to "The Don" being on the prowl for them, because of the secrecy of the AHA no one was sure who worked for "The Don" and who worked for AHA. Because of this nervousness it became a free for all. Hunters would often call themselves "Sinners" because they had killed other innocent members of the AHA, and were therefore going to hell, but they continued their work because if they kill a new hunter who has yet to commit murder, he would be 'saved' and sent to heaven.
Earlier in the Hardcore-lore section, @sinful trout mentioned the deadline on the hunt being because the Hunters need the armored carts and boats to get through something. Fasih graciously responded telling them to think simpler. Not sure if this is simpler, but what if it's the sickness? Perhaps the boats and carts aren't armored, their borderline airtight to keep it out.
sinful trout
if that was the case then hunters would be breaking quarentine and have to be killed upon returning to the aha. judging by the fact that john hayward finished 98 hunts before succumbing to his 99th i doubt this is the case. good theory though!
sinful trout
@junior pecan back to your previous statement about sculptor being evil, in this instance he would be trying to turn all humans into zeds and armoreds. this in itself is an act against humanity. hes trying to eradicate them. also i dont see anywhere it being mentioned that zombies live longer. in fact ive noticed a couple of notes mentioning the deteriorating of the "specemins".
ashen plover
Ok this might be a strech but looking at what @nimble river found it might be possible that dr. Reed was the one who performed the post mortem examination of the armoured. We know that he is capable of doing so because it is mentioned in the trials of dr. Reed. It also states that "The confinement wears on my [dr. Reeds] mind" implying that it reminds him of something... Also the entry with this sentence contains the picture with the spilled bottle.
storm quiver
What in the world are the waterdevils? I cant understand those things.
ashen plover
A swarm of many small leech-like monsters according to the point blank post: https://www.huntshowdown.com/news/point-blank-there-s-something-in-the-water
storm quiver
oh
low ice
alright
two things then
they ARE borderline airtight
and this is an important detail
second
this thing is called Sculptor only by one guy in one instance
maybe... this is only HIS way of describing this kind of monster
remember... hunt lore is based on existing folklore and urban legends
sinful trout
@low ice do you mean to say the infection is airborne?
slim panther
microbial, airborne infection
low ice
it's not the chickens
slim panther
hmm. the sculptor could also just be a fancy way of saying "progenitor"