the lovecraftian aspect is very similar if thats what you mean
#lore-discussion
sinful trout
also @rough compass id imagine the facial reaction was due to the sculptor rendimg him limb from limb imo
rough compass
probably
lyric sleet
Lovecraftian universe + the hunter organization gimmick
rough compass
i used to think the darksight was another dimension like in lovecraft universe, as stated in the dunwich horror
cold badger
Hunt isnt really Lovecraftian
rough compass
true but if i've learned 1 thing from game theory is that if you twist the facts enough it can seem like actual lore
rotund ferry
Theres water hentai monsters. Whats with that? Whats the lore
ripe harbor
the ducks became a menace to local wildlife so the people retaliated by putting them in their place by voyaging out into the sea to find something strong enough to fight the ducks
either that or someone had some really bad foot infection and went in the water barefoot
either of those work for you?
shadow crown
that human face fades in 1-2 secs after spider's death animation, but yes, once it was some human
next willow
by the way if you look at the water devil close enough when it submerges, you can see there are some separate wormlike creatures gliding under the water in various directions before going deeper
next willow
https://puu.sh/Bk6KQ/7164cfbef7.png what is this pokemon? it looks a bit like old spider concept
sinful trout
@next willow it is old spider concept
vital atlas
Here's something to think about, how long do you think they can cover the whole demonic thing up before the public in the game's world figure out that its not simply a "disease" that affects only the poor and those of a lower caste? And if it does come out that there's actually monsters in the swamps, what will happen, aside from the initial mass panic and outrage from the population?
shadow crown
rumors will still be rumors until investigation, which is held by hunters association, so it will be dealt with before thing go public I think, and if there are demons in the world - there will be some demonhunters
lusty valley
I don’t believe Mass panic will be the biggest thing to worry about. Imagine a gold rush buy you’re killing demons and people instead.
Not an uncommon thing to kill someone you didn’t like in the Wild west
cold badger
Ehhhhhh thats mostly fictionalized tho
sinful trout
@cold badger im flattered #lore-discussion-hardcore
cold badger
I honestly thought you were already in it lol
Probably got mistaken
But yeah one big misconception about this game are the references to the wild west
sinful trout
@cold badger how do you mean?
cold badger
The games setting isnt the wild west
sinful trout
technically its the end of the wild west
cold badger
you could say the games genre is wild west but the setting itself is not at all wild west
sinful trout
1865-1895
cold badger
Yeah but its not IN the wild west
Louisiana is not a western territory
If you want to refer to the games time period "gilded age" would be more appropriate
sinful trout
parts of louisianna was considered wild west, ( i do agree with you, the game isnt wild west at all but louisianna was technically a part of wild west)
sinful trout
The events in this timeline occurred primarily in the contiguous portion of the modern United States west of the Mississippi River, and mostly in the period between the Louisiana Purchase in 1803 and the admission of the last mainland states into the Union in 1912. -wikepedia.org
i know the worst site to use but it was readily available
cold badger
Yeah the louisiana purchase was in 1803
Louisiana was "wild" in that time
U said wild west was 1865-1895 and louisiana was long settled by that time
Becuz by wikipedia definition its 1803 to 1912
cold badger
What
river rain
And that was the day var exploded.
sinful trout
twas the day var realized he was dyslexic and couldnt preform basic human functions
rotund ferry
lol
slim hatch
@cursive schooner WORKS?
cursive schooner
Thank you
sinful trout
I don't understand
proper cradle
@cursive schooner
cursive schooner
I see it again
dire light
hmm
honestly, I like that early six-legged spider concept better
it looks more alien, yet still relatable
current spider is too spidery
subtle ravine
I'm terrified of spiders. Itsy no so bitsy came flying towards me at 90 MPH I was glad I had a shot gun..and a new pair of pants.
cold badger
I kinda like the current spider just because you dont realize it used to be human until you kill it and get a closer look
sinful trout
Spider was SPECULATED TO BE A DOCTOR, DO YOU KNOW WHAT ESSENCE WOULD DO IF THEY HEARD YOU UTTERING ASSUMPTIONS AS REALITY?!?!! BE CAREFUL MY FRIEND FOR DANGER IS AFOOT ON YOUR PATH @low sleet (but yeah that's the theory so far)
low sleet
dull fox
mental sentinel
The spider is speculated to be Dr. Reed or another doctor?
mellow jetty
The community is very confident (strongly believes) that the spider is Dr. Reed.
mental sentinel
I didn't get that from his letters, I'll have to do a re-read.
sinful trout
I know at first I thought (still kinda think) that he's the butcher and that the spider is Dr Winkler and father Nico but that's my own theory and I have my own reasons. Dm for more info, but the majority of the community believes that Dr Reed's is the spider so that is the theory we're inquiring about.
mental sentinel
I guess I just want to understand the why.
I re read it and didn't get that feeling. It's possible that lore note is to showcase how the infection spreads
robust condor
so like
im new
and i really want to get into the lore
but i dont know anything
pls mention me if you want to fill me in
u dont have to tho
slim hatch
@robust condor start by reading pinned posts
gleaming meadow
So whats with "The Most Dangerous Game" refference in the lore book?
I mean it's a pretty spot on comparison to this game but is there something more to it?
slim hatch
If i remember that lore piece correctly "The Most Dangerous Game" refers to other Hunters aka hunting humans.
Not the bounty
mental sentinel
Yeah it's a book.
about hunting humans, so yeah probably a reference to that possibly.
You know, I wonder if the Abdullah character is a referene to Lovecraft's Mad Arab character
zenith horizon
people born in Hunt times were born too late to experience beethoven
and too early to experience hendrix
but they were born just in time to die to demon zombie insects
mental sentinel
yeah dude he died in like 1827..
zenith horizon
was sarcasm invented back then also
mental sentinel
well how would I know if you were sarcastic over text? lol
sleek grotto
"On obscure diseases of the brain and disorders of the mind" possible book refrence in the "A NEW THREAT"
zenith horizon
you wanna know something mangoghoul
the time from beethovens death to hunt showdown
is almost the exact same amount of time as from hunt showdown
to when jimi hendrix was musically active
you not only cant read sarcasm and lighthearted observations
you also look like a fool
im done with you
mental sentinel
uh okay, no need to be a real jerk about it jeeze dude.
fathom badge
@cold badger "on obscure diseases of the brain and disorder of the mind" by Forbes Benignus Winslow
that's the book the picture's on
cold badger
i n s a n i t y
fathom badge
the chapter shown is Physical Exaltation
also @slim hatch if you wanted to know the book
from what I'm reading of the book there seems to be a 'disorder of the mind' to turn on friends and loved ones
this disease is mentioned in the chapter as an "attack of insanity"
it also shows many other examples, such as a person going to the church and exclaiming he is "the saviour of the world!" where he had previously been modest and calm
another
fathom badge
flashbacks to the AI Hunters Discussion 
timid cargo
IDK if this is something known already, this is my first time on the lore channel but on the hunters desk on the website numerous things are written in Haitian and in Haitian culture it is believed the souls of the damned are trapped in water. Perhaps this is what the water devil is based on/is
mental sentinel
Could be yeah, wouldn't be shocked if they took from Voodoo.
late robin
Game takes place in a Louisiana swamp shortly after the death of Marie Laveau, so voodoo would have been prominent
cold badger
isnt Marie Laveau still alive in hunt lore?
robust summit
I believe in one of the books it discusses how a military shipment of something was lost in the bayou during transport. Maybe it was being delivered via the vehicles we see at extraction points, they seem well fortified enough to carry an important package, and perhaps the package was a bio toxin of sorts that got into the water? All speculation but I could see a military accident being the cause of this
And I said bio toxin carefully beside bio weapons weren’t a super prominent thing for another 40 years but your hunter can use poison bombs and jars of magic bees so
cold badger
the sculptor is the cause
and the armored stagecoaches/boats are set there by the AHA
when is a military transport mentioned?
robust summit
in the louisiana incident i believe, it was brief but i recall a lost military convoy mentioned
could mean the supply points but feel like it has deeper meaning
river rain
Ok. So. The lost military shipments (correct me if I am wrong) happened up at the grate lakes. Not the bayou. The man who is looking for the lost convoy (specifically a jernal) mentions that the trail points to the Louisiana bayou so he is going to go there. That is what that is all about. But no. This was in no way caused by a bio weapon. This is magic/supernatural/voodoo stuff. Not resident evil stuff.
sick vault
If you are refering to the german text in the lorebook, it is about a guy looking for the lost journal of the "Löwenschild Regiment" (might be the Löwenschild Dragoons, founded in 1688). The trail leads him to Louisiana and that's it (it is implied that not only the journal vanished but the whole regiment). There is no lost military shipment.
cobalt pasture
I have it all figured out
S.O.
Solo
Only
Ill take money on paypal for this info, please and thankyou
slim hatch
@sick vault around 1688 time i think a bit before that, there was another incident of aprox. 1895 scale
gleaming pawn
Yes
But what about Frodo´?
What does Frodo have to do with hunt showdown lore´?
I really dont understand, could someone explain to me
fluid frigate
Idk if anyone realized this before me since im new but in a page of the lore book the guy that was talking about sinners was actually an ottoman emperor. so now we have american hunters, sinners, and ottoman hunters.
mental sentinel
The gunboats that you enter are heavily modified, so AHA could have military ties.
jolly karma
Can someone give me a summary of what's happening in hunt?
burnt storm
Check pinned messages @jolly karma
jolly karma
tyvm
burnt storm
Yes
jolly karma
The AHA probably recruits from ex military.
fathom badge
gotta love ex-military getting jobs
jolly karma
Do we have some sort of question compilation?
That we hope the devs go through?
I want a gargoyle straight out of Jeepers Creepers.
Anyways, I've got three questions that I'd like to see the devs answer, lore wise.
- If we're dealing with demonic entities, does that mean that there's the logical opposite in this universe; angels?
- Besides Dark Vision, what other forms of supernatural abilities are attainable by humans?
- Is there something about Hunters that makes them immune to the sculptor's influence?
burnt storm
Questions are in pinned messages
jolly karma
That document is view only
burnt storm
Well random people would change it otherwise
jolly karma
Yeah, of course. I was just wondering if there was a place that I could ask these things
burnt storm
Ask them right here. If the question is good, Essence might add it, I guess
full tulip
Hi guys ! Will there be some real paper books about the lore ? I would like to read them 😄
undone walrus
@full tulip I agree that'd be cool to see in the merch shop I'd def pay for them.
lusty valley
I’d love to see Alligators, Or maybe even some flying enemies, Like Mutated bats or a murder of crows when you piss too many off
Maybe some sort of gigantic snake too
I’d also be happy to have some kind of Single Action army pistol, Or s Volcanic pistol
cold badger
Water devil ate all of the alligators RIP
lusty valley
I... wouldn’t doubt it 😂
sinful trout
Plot twist water devil's ARE gators
gleaming meadow
plot twist the water devils are gators possessed by the hellish sting ray that killed steve irwin
zenith horizon
was Steve just a modern day hunter 🤔
he was the crocodile hunta
what if it was also demon crocs
cursive schooner
I don't know if anyone there is aware of why in the modern days we don't see many silenced revolvers, and in Hunt we almost have as the only option a silenced, 19th century revolver. The answer is very simple, by fact the biggest reason is; back then ammunition technology was in a big developement stage, and russian engineers created a gas seal design. The bullet is seated deep down in the casing.
With this really different design the whole process of gas formation is in one place. To see the difference,
I hope you enjoyed this one minute weapon corner, I'll try to provide at least once a week similiar one!
random lava
Don't know how this has to do with the lore
cursive schooner
It's the real world lore behind the game, a little fact about history.
random lava
?
stone kraken
rotund ferry
Asked this before, but does anyone know the name of the metal headwear some of the Grunts have? The cage/mask things?
They look like scold's bridles, something used to restrain speech and humiliate the wearer, but appear more for restraining bites or managing violent/insane behavior.
Difficult to tell.
last sundial
slim hatch
@rotund ferry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scold's_bridle
@last sundial We considered that those might be slavery inspired ones but it was quickly debunked so I think it's case of Scold Bridle
rotund ferry
It was used to mute people who spoke of witchcraft and the sorts to prevent them from communing with the devils. Voodoo practiced by Haitain slaves was considered witchcraft by the whites in Louisianna so it could be linked
Slavery in game wouldve only been abolished like 30 years prior and Voodoo would still be very present and strong amongsts the black populace of mostly haitain descent
The slaves couldve possibly summoned events like this to fight back against opression and the sorts around 1895-1905 in the south the US was actively disenfranchising blacks and doing their best to prevent blscks from voting
sinful trout
Yeah there was a mechanism for reducing infection that was proved inneffective but I think it looked different so we went with scolds bridle
soft sable
do think they put the mask on before they turn to reduce chance of spreading
sinful trout
I think you misread my post. It WAS theorised that it was a thing to reduce infection but they look more boxlike so it's definitely not that
soft sable
maybe protection from blunt force trauma
which would mean intelligence behind the whole thing definitely sinister maybe their creator puts the mask on the originals and the ones with out the mask are just casualties of the event
cursive schooner
Or their loved ones forced them in these cages so they can't hurt anyone (they are quite aggressive)
sinful trout
Or... And hear me out. It could be that it was used to silence witches and practitioners of voodoo
sly bison
Wasn't the new material suppose to come out today?
rotund ferry
Yeah, seems to be a wide number of reasons. A big one would be restraint. We know Grunts are more or less like a feral zombie, biting and eating people/animals, and the metal cage masks would obviously prevent that. In asylums in the late 19th century metal cages also prevented head trauma from patients banging their heads on walls and such. It also could function like a scold's bridle, both locking down speech and marking whoever was deemed to be insane or practicing witchcraft or voodoo, if they suspected them of it. And as one of the in-game journal entries describes a mundane infection rather than just supernatural stuff going on, spread at the least by bites, it also could function as metal head cages did in the late 1800's for medicinal purposes, when physicians believed that keeping the head stationary and upright would cause all the blood to flow from the brain downward, therefore preventing an infection or disease from spreading to the head. So a mix of restraining bites, keeping the patient from harming themselves, restraining speech, and preventing the disease from spreading.
unkempt kernel
What is up with the dolls i keep finding everywhere? any thread or are they just for aesthetics (they don't seem to be placed randomly
cold badger
just an overused map asset
slim hatch
Easter eggs mostly
soft sable
i would like to say it has a deep meaning but i think its just for atmosphere
soft sable
well where are all the children
cursive schooner
In development
soft sable
i dont think kids are coming to the game however a little girl boss would be awesome
sinful trout
Go play Bioshock. Enjoy your new heaven
soft sable
hardy har ar
elder carbon
@soft sable probably eaten
sinful trout
@soft sable I thought it was funny
stable patrol
is the spider a male or female, i need to know to prove a friend wrong.
sinful trout
There's no definitive gender to the spider
And it could be made from a male and female
We don't know that far yet
autumn cloak
Generally male spiders die early in their life so itd be reasonable to assume female
slim hatch
Spider is made out of humans i doubt it has a gender
river rain
Also this not a natural spider. Stuff that applies to natural spiders, such as short lifetimes of males, might not apply hear... Maybe... I mean its a spider created from body parts.
sinful trout
Like human and horse, both have long life spans sooo
sly bison
To continue off of what Apache0 said, the "spider" is not actually a spider but rather a entity molded into the form of a spider.
burnt storm
Here we go again 
vital atlas
I personally think the "spider" is one very unlucky person that got molded, as Evo put it, by whatever entity that's behind all this into this abomination as its done with those who became Meatheads, Butchers and Hives.
And that begs the ever important question of who, or perhaps more accurately WHAT, is behind all this.
sinful trout
The spider is 1-2 people + various animals that were "sculpted" (for lack of better words) by what we know as "the sculptor" an entity that can possibly possess people to remain undetected and can create and mold various things into abominations from nightmares.
The butcher we know less of
sly bison
@sinful trout Where did you get the information of the spider being composed of 1-2 people + animals?
river rain
@sly bison the fact that a normal human body dose not have the flesh and bone nesisary for spider. Think about it. Human has four limbs. The spider has atleist 6. Had to have gotten the flesh and bone from somwere.
sinful trout
we know theres a horse sooo we got that going for us
dense badger
can someone briefly explaining what we know from the lore? just joined the discord recently and curious to know what you guys found
sinful trout
@dense badger check the pinned messages! a lot of stuff is rich oin there
tall lava
slim hatch
We need a bot here that will automatically refer people to pinned posts
mellow jetty
!lore
slim hatch
!true still lore related (we are talking programming lingo right?)
mellow jetty
Ofc
mellow jetty
New tweet hmhmhm
sleek grotto
If you look at the hunter's table there is demon illustrations from the "Dictionnaire Infernal", partially mentio in Voynich writings nearby. In the book there is duck headed demon "Ipos" reminds me of "Franken Duck" Easter egg. Anyways.... One of the illustrations of demons is marked with the Hunt crosses logo, above "Bohemoth", below "Amon". I tried looking through many illustrations, but I can't find that one. Plenty of illustrations typically put "Azazel" in that spot. Maybe someone can figure out who it really is?
haughty saffron
K, I've been trying to piece together why hunters would fight each other.
As the lore master said, they are not particularly nice people. Also, it is stated that Dark Sight comes "at a cost" as their flesh seems to be deteriorating (Tier III looks). Also, the bounty is more than just a materialistic reward, so it's probably also a form of salvation. Here goes:
The Sundering happens in 1885. Not sure what was sundered -- perhaps our world was split apart by the opening of 1 or both portals? In any case, this is when hunter associations begin forming up. In "DON ALESSANDRO GUARDINI"s journal, it sounds like it's a fairly new business to be in.
It's also apparent that the associations don't hire very nice men. Perhaps grizzled war vets, crominals and murderers, a-moral hunters and so on.
So, the Association gives them this deal: You soul is already damned and hell-bound (something that Sinan seems to believe), so we give you a chance to save this world AND redeem yourself / go to Heaven. Through a ritual, we will give you the ability to track demons (Dark Sight). However, the Sight will kill you eventually, so you have limited time to grab a demon bounty and return it to us.
This ties into the "lack of respect for human life" that the lore master mentioned. All the hunters out there know that they are backstabbers and murderers. And all of them know that they are on a ticking clock. This certainly puts enough pressure on them to forget about working together.
As for the bounties and why the AHA Director (Dr. Jones) prefers to stay in his office: perhaps the bounties are needed in order to research the demons / closing of the gate(s). Perhaps once the ritual of closing is complete, the person who brought the bounties to be used in it gets "saved".
So the good Doctor, despite being a powerful man, needs to make sure he doesn't get slaughtered by his own army of delinquents so that he can perform the rituals. Probably something he's been taught by that Voodoo lady Marie Laveau
supple sable
Cool story
sinful trout
@haughty saffron where I'd like to agree with you on some things I have to disagree as well. Have you read the treasury letter? The one with abdulaziz? If you do I think you might rethink the thought that the American hunters are a new orginization.
Secondly you speak of the bounty reward as a form of salvation. Yet the people who've been in the business longer seem more and more convinced they're going to hell (in the words of John H.) "My name is John hayward, and I know I will die tonight. This is the 99th time I write down these words" that and I think we already discussed the true deck wasn't a form of salvation, can't remember where but some pretty good points were made.
Lastly it doesn't seem Marie laveau was teaching the director in his chair as they wrote a letter and seeming from it they've never spoken before. And basically her letter was a trash talk and his was excuses as to why. She wanted him to raise his voice and his reply was something along "I've sworn an oath to the association and should I break it I would not live long to boast"
haughty saffron
Hmmm ill have to go through the texts again. But I do believe it’s a new business because Don Guardini, in his journal, acts super happy about finding this “new type of hunt”. So, demons crossing over and hunts happening is either fairly new or fairly secretive.
Or both
slim hatch
Interesting points and very believable but can’t say it’s exactly like that. Var made a nice counter point.
And yes we initially thought true deck will be the salvation but devil in the church yard flipped it upside down
soft sable
do you think we will fight the sculpter
cursive schooner
I hope in an event
it would be cool, to have event missions so our best hunters could be used in ,,more important tasks" then just collecting bounty and money for their organisation.
sinful trout
Definitely would be a cool idea @soft sable
slim panther
Or a bunch of hunters all on a team fight one big baddie, e.g the sculptor
like a raid
river rain
if all the mobs were not passive like they are now and were actually trying to converge on you and kill you, do you think you could survive with just you and your partner? I ask because if we do fight the sculptor I can see that happening.
soft sable
you know what would be awesome like a wave survival event like you spawn like normal but one place is the place you defend and you got 5 mins to get there and all the mobs in the world converge on you including bosses
cursive schooner
And zombies, and dogs could get trough fences or even take ladders
slim panther
that'd be dope wrogan
yeah a mode where it's legit hunter vs environment would be rad
dry pawn
I'd just like to ask the exact time the game takes place. I'm currently gathering information for new guns to suggest to developers but without an exact date it can be hard to know what guns to can indeed be reasonable to but in the game
Warm Regards, Wild Bill Domague
zenith horizon
Dear Wild Bill Domague
Unfortunately our offices have been rather clogged up by the requests of other so-called "hunters" seeking information regarding the Louisiana incident that they claim affected several square miles of inhabited land and resulted in the deaths of several hundred residents of that land. While we are happy to hear about your concern and the concern of other interested individuals, it is the official position of the Government of Louisiana that no such incident ever actually occurred. Furthermore, any inquiries related to supposed 'supernatural beings' or 'demonic possessions' will not be replied to as these rumors are considered put to rest after thorough examination by an appointed committee. If you have any other questions please contact us in person at our offices, which can be found on our website. Thank you and have a sunny day!
analog cipher
@dry pawn a passerby had mentioned the new century was upon us during my time in Alabama, but I was in such a hurry West I didnt care much to chat. Im in search of a great mountain near the west coast. I must be off now
Zebulon Pike
cold badger
The Eighteen hundred and ninety-fifth year of our Lord.
dry pawn
@Lt Zebulon Pike#8488 Thank you, I shall use this information for the benefit of us all
lusty valley
Dear Wild Bill.
It has come to my attention that you’ve become aware of our little issue. If you have any kind of information on Known criminals, War Veterans or De-commissioned police officers, Please write me back as soon as possible. Not only will you be rewarded Handsomely, You’ll also have my most humble gratitude. Perhaps even an invitation of your own?
- Stahl AHA Recruitment guild
lethal compass
@river rain (in response to what you said in the Hardcore Lore channel) the "zombies" often have an audible cough or wheeze in game. Is it possible that whatever started this "disease" or "mass possession" affected the victims lungs before full control was lost? And in response to these new lung issues, people (before losing control) bought these miracle cures in bulk, hence the advertisement?
river rain
@lethal compass could be. That seams like a completely reasonable explanation. I wish we new more so we could be shure. But people getting sick and turning to miracle cures for the answer? Yah, I could completely see that.
slim panther
Airborne and water-born, very plausible.
Adaptable "disease" too, since it effects dogs - which are presumably what hellhounds are, instead of them actually coming from hell.
high sapphire
if it was airborne it would effect the dogs in the cages, but it doesn't, unless those ones are immune
near swan
It would most likely be water borne
cold badger
They could just be coughing because their bodies are decaying
Safe to assume their insides are too
near swan
but do zombies breathe?
soft sable
im thinking its not a disease for are hunters would be sick too
near swan
but zombies dont work like people
but then again they caugh
cough
so they woulda kinda need to breathe
cold badger
Zombies are fictional. They can work in many ways
Like romero type zombies and clickers are two totally different things but theyre still "zombies"
sick vault
aren't the "zombies" in Hunt technically people under the influence of a demon (the sculptor)?
soft sable
im with @sick vault on this one
haughty saffron
I don't think so. The Sculptor seems to be much more interested in possessing bodies and mending them together to "sculpt" something out of them. The bosses, the meatheads, the hives. Whatever affected the zombies is probably an assisting entity or something that triggered the Sculptor to appear
soft sable
/\
near swan
Where can I find mention of the Sculptor
soft sable
the notes of the Louisiana incident
gleaming meadow
They could be infected by carriers like insects, lots of flies and mosquitos in the bayou
It could be from another demon like the one that creates the hives
The folder in the top left labeled "Dissertation Drafts" and the document titled "Syllabus - Mythology and Symbolism in the US" makes me think whoever is researching this is doing it as a final for college. He is also wondering why he is seeing rings in his eyes, maybe the demon has taken interest in him doing research and might be messing with him?
haughty saffron
Where is this picture from though?
broken tree
soft sable
it would make sense that through the possession could be taken as mental illness hyper aggression erratic behavior
gleaming meadow
About the eye thing actually, hes been sitting in the dark for a long time on his pc most likely researching and writing a report
soft sable
i guess
gleaming meadow
So far i guess
mellow jetty
It is "the style " they used in the past as well.
gleaming meadow
Mind telling me how you guys came across more info on the sculptor and where to find it?
Like which domains he controls or whatever
minor swallow
A suggestion: I think an ARG for the lore would be great, Like cryptic clues on websites and stuff where you can piece together the story/lore
gleaming meadow
Soul
According to Vodou, the soul consists of two aspects, in a type of soul dualism: the gros bon ange (big good angel) and the ti bon ange(little good angel). The gros bon ange is the part of the soul that is essentially responsible for the basic biological functions, such as the flow of blood through the body and breathing. On the other hand, the ti bon ange is the source of personality, character and willpower. "As the gros bon ange provides each person with the power to act, it is the ti bon ange that molds the individual sentiment within each act".[36] While the latter is an essential element for the survival of one's individual identity, it is not necessary to keep the body functioning properly in biological terms, and therefore a person can continue to exist without it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_Vodou
Might be jumping to conclusions here but maybe the zombies that we see are people with only half a soul.
Thoughts for the future, we will see
soft sable
makes sense to me
sinful trout
I'd like to revisit the theory of @lethal compass you have a really good point. Could be that the vaporizing inhaler was used by people to help with the sickness. Or (I like this idea) a common cold that affected sinus' heavily was introduced to the area and the vaporizing inhaler was used to transport a harder virus.
gleaming meadow
Possibly to weaken them and make them easy to possess or influence them in some way?
sinful trout
That's what I'm thinking. My guess is the vaporizing inhaler was a way to actually spread a biohazard. And someone introduced a common cold to the area to encourage people to get it. Since the address is in Haiti then it makes sense that the voodoo culture or even madame laveau was involved
gleaming meadow
On a side note relating to #lore-discussion-hardcore abiut the beasts, was it just before the water devils that we recieved this?
cold badger
i think so yeah
Rue Dauphine is probably Dauphine Street in New Orleans
famous part of the French Quarter
gleaming meadow
Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.
Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Could be refering to the water devils, they live in the water but quicky rush to terrorise the hunters (who inhabit the earth) and the short time might be refering to the hunters not staying in the waters lomg
@cold badger
cold badger
yeah ik
thats why i said Rue Dauphine is Dauphine Street
in the French Quarter
wouldnt make sense to be in haiti
sinful trout
@cold badger no recorded street in new Orleans but you're right it's possible it was renamed. However we can't assume that without looking at old maps of new Orleans. And since of all places it's Haiti. One of the focal points of the current lore. I'm still believing that it's jacmal, haiti
sinful trout
To appeal to the people of new orleans
gleaming meadow
New orleans is somewhat connected to haiti in in the form of voodoo
sinful trout
As I said it could have been used to transmit a deadlier virus to new orleans
sinful trout
Imports brother
cold badger
Rue Dauphine is in New Orleans without question
sinful trout
imports
cold badger
or it could be manufactured and shipped out of a location RIGHT next to where the game takes place!
occams razor
it is much more logical for the vaporizing inhalers to be from new orleans
gleaming meadow
Louisiana Voodoo is often confused with—but is not completely separable from—Haitian Vodou
sinful trout
@cold badger alright, I'll do some digging to see if there even was a 42 daphnine st
gleaming meadow
Voodoo Post-Haitian RevolutionEdit
Following the beginning of the Haitian Revolution in 1792, the lives of Voodoo practitioners in the North American colonies became more difficult. Due to the revolution being started by slaves who were supposedly possessed by a deity during a Vodou ritual, the French colonist became aggressive towards Voodoo rituals as a precaution.
Wait
What was that chicks name Marie Lavue?
cold badger
Marie Laveau
gleaming meadow
Among the fifteen "voodoo queens" in neighborhoods scattered around 19th-century New Orleans, Marie Laveau was known as "the" Voodoo Queen, the most eminent and powerful of them all
cold badger
yeah
she died in 1881 tho
and her daughter of the same name died even before that
i think maybe shes still alive in hunt lore
sinful trout
But because neither jones' letter nor Marie's letter mentions a date. We have no idea when Marie wrote the damn letter! (I'm with Korean tho. I think she's still alive)
cold badger
thats tru forgot it was dateless
sinful trout
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH WHY DIDNT THEY DATE IT
cold badger
wasnt there a previous event in louisiana?
sinful trout
flips table in frustration DATE EVERYTHING
cold badger
or am i thinking of something else
sinful trout
yeah
cold badger
when
cold badger
well
cold badger
marie laveau doesnt explicitly metion any events in her letter, just that she sees something in the future
cold badger
it could be her tipping the AHA off about new orleans long before anything even happened there
sinful trout
could marie laveau have predicted the sundering?
cold badger
i think thats what it is
this was the first (and possibly last) correspondence between the two
the letter is probably what started the AHA's interest in Louisiana
sinful trout
mm
hol up
we have no date on the sundering, hoping rehab will pull through
@mellow jetty THREATEN THE VOICES IF NEED BE.
gleaming meadow
MOST ESTEEMED DR. JONES,
I CAN NOW CONFIRM THAT THE FIRST SHIPMENT IS UNDERWAY AND, I HAVE BEEN PROMISED, SHOULD ARRIVE AT LOUISIANABEFORE THE MONTH IS OUT. THIS SHIPMENT IS, PERHAPS, OF A BIZARRE AND EVEN WHIMSICAL CHARACTER, AS IT CONTAINS PROTOTYPES OF A HIGHLY EXPERIMENTAL NATURE.
Could this be refferring to the inhalers?
gleaming meadow
Not sure, ill check more when im home tonight
sinful trout
keep in mind the vaporizing inhalers were devellopped in 1882. so more than likely it was for an incident that happened in 1885. not our current 1895 one
but wait
dr jones... thats the name of... the aha director...
wait
the fact that it was written by caldwell implies its the guns
more than likely the caldwell uppercut pistols
its also worth noting it was found in a French-German dictionary. the language spoke by Rittmeister H and people of Haitian Origin
gleaming meadow
Ah yeah it has to be the uppercut
sick vault
the only prototype gun of the caldwell pistols is the chainpistol
sinful trout
in 1895 that is
sinful trout
cold badger
nah being made in 1882 doesnt make it more likely for 1885
also the french german dictionary is a good catch Var
sinful trout
if it wasnt made for 1885 then that would mean its litterally just a vape
gleaming meadow
As for the transcript in hardcore, the original letter may have been damaged
sinful trout
but in that case im pretty sure it would just be classified as a copy
for example we dont have Transcripts of the bible we have copies.
gleaming meadow
transliterate (foreign characters) or write or type out (shorthand, notes, or other abbreviated forms) into ordinary characters or full sentences.
Maybe they were in german or something
I dont knkw my lore well yet
But they couldve been transcribed from another language
sinful trout
caldwell was american and so was jones... but you have a point punch. they could have been trying to stop prying eyes from reading it. but only issue with that is why would they stick an encrypted letter to the codex
gleaming meadow
Ah im getting my letters mixed up, dammit lol.
cold badger
The twitter feed is getting good though
Now that the researchers starting to lose it
We gonna get some good lore in the next couple of weeks bois
sinful trout
pumped
gleaming meadow
http://earlycajunmusic.blogspot.com/2016/06/bury-me-in-corner-of-yard-segura.html
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/456375402638737421/487388158334599178/Dg3uZ-NXcAAHFuA.png?width=468&height=468
cursive schooner
It was always confusing, why there was sport game like baseball games scripts?
I think that's where the flu/bacteria started, and after that came the inhalers!
What do you think?
cold badger
?
Oh the sports info
I think its to set the tone of the game
I mean the time
That being said now that i look over the lore more and more i'm actually getting convinced the sculptor does use disease to "sculpt"
There are references to infections and diseases all over
gleaming meadow
did you guys read the text in the video? I think it might be the Voynich that the picture above mentions
it actually is voynich, comparing the first word to a transcription on wikipedia it seems to be Fae. the quality makes it very difficult to read though
this is probably one of the clearest ones i can see
damn this gonna bug me all night now... xD
gleaming meadow
awww
well sweet
awww damn its the 12:12 james whatchamacallit... already figured this out lmao. kudos to the guy who translated it, i would be here for years staring at those blurry words
sinful trout
I was up for about 48 hours. Took a 5 hour power nap then worked more and ranted about it in hardcore so essence saved me and found someone able to translate it. Thank God for fajeth
I guess you could say we beat you to the... Punch. Laughs then cries
gleaming meadow
lmao...
gleaming meadow
has anybody tried to decode the scribblings on "The Book Of Masters"?
they also seem to be in voynich
might be gibberish tho
cold badger
on the front?
pressed into metal?
its probably gibberish
book of masters isnt a lorebook
gleaming meadow
yeah on the front
just because it isnt a lore book doesn't necessarily mean there can't be anything on it
cold badger
uh
it does
louisiana files is the only library book with lore in it
end of story
the other 2 are just fancy covers
gleaming meadow
well then ill take a look at it >.>
river rain
the developers can get as creative as they want at placing there lore. nothing says they have to put everything in the grate big book of lore. heck, they can stick lore hidden in the game code if they wanted.
soft sable
alright whats the topic today
sinful trout
not a whole lot of new lore @soft sable but feel free to start a lore theory based on hard facts
we always enjoy enhancing/dissecting those
some of our main theories have come from that
gleaming meadow
The voynich on the Book of Masters seems to just be gibberish to me, tried decoding a few of the words to no avail. Difficult to find any start or end point, but if somebody else wants to give it a shot be my guest.
sinful trout
im not going to bother because theres nowhere to start
its all jumbled and out of place
my guess is its just the ramblings of an insane person
cold badger
Still waitin for more research tweets
low sleet
@HuntShowdown September 10, 2018 at 03:00PM: http://twitter.com/HuntShowdown/status/1039136604890300417
U guys already know what they doing?
sick vault
I'm still convinced they construct some sort of alternative timeline/history for Hunt. Some of the events happened, some didn't.
The picture behind the text is page 378 in the book.
"Sins of the father" could be anything. Most likely it's about passing the sins of one generation on to the next generation (biblical).
odd gull
Guys.... I gotta freaking know... What brave soul or poor dumbass said "Hey...I should harvest some of those bees, put them in jars, and have them ready to throw at any enemy! THE HIVE BOMB IS GENIOUS! That is the most important lore right now. Figure it out, people
gleaming meadow
Oh boy
Possible new orleans urban map incoming? Hoping to be able to read these symbols on the streets
Is that picture in the background titles Summons.jpg? Its kinda fuzzy so want a second oppinion
Summons.jpg or Symbols.jpg
soft sable
secret cult messages hmm
rotund ferry
Better yet who looked at a chicken egg and thought "MMMM LOOKS GOOOOD!"
mellow jetty
Symbols I would say @gleaming meadow
soft sable
maybe a group of people summend a sculpter
gleaming meadow
Thats what it would seem, need to analyze more though
rotund ferry
You know what I thought of?
You know how when you banish the spider or butcher they make one final squeal before being banished?
I'm thinking they can never truly die.
As you're just putting them back where they came from.
soft sable
and dont let my bad grammer fool you
im actually really dumb
yeah @rotund ferry i think your right
rotund ferry
I mean maybe that's why we gotta keep putting them back.
They're just temporarily gone.
And then they come back to our world.
soft sable
yeah
rotund ferry
Then get again they are demons.
Yet*
I'm pretty sure lead wont kill a spirit.
We need doomguy smh.
soft sable
well how do they comeback via possession or a gate
rotund ferry
I dont know.
soft sable
im thinking a gate
rotund ferry
Ever noticed the butcher is wearing some clothing?
I think it probably possessed a body since it doesnt really have a head.
It just slapped on a pig head and called it a day.
soft sable
spider has a head
rotund ferry
Also when the bosses are being banished. There's that giant storm portal thingy above.
Maybe that's the portal to help or smth?
Idk.
soft sable
yeah that is what i thought
rotund ferry
Where maybe we can see the true forms of the butcher and spider.
soft sable
a map of hell would be cool but should be hard as hell
gleaming meadow
Well break time is over... damn... ill have to look into this more later
soft sable
ba dum pssh
mellow jetty
What do you mean by true form?
soft sable
or your on break i thought we were both shitty emploies
what they look like outside the body
you know
rotund ferry
Ye
soft sable
if they are demons then flesh can only be molded so far
gleaming meadow
Well one thing is for sure, our writers vision is definitely going to shit
rotund ferry
?
soft sable
?
gleaming meadow
The rings and blurs are getting worse
rotund ferry
Rip
soft sable
f
gleaming meadow
It was mentioned in the last picture he was trying to find out what the cause was
rotund ferry
If they make a hell map I think they should include weapons that are able to kill a demon.
soft sable
cool
rotund ferry
Like a freaking angel blade or some shizz
gleaming meadow
Im really starting to think he is being affected in an abnormal way due to his research.
rotund ferry
Are you talking about the spider?
gleaming meadow
I'm talking about the picture
rotund ferry
What picture?
gleaming meadow
@HuntShowdown September 10, 2018 at 03:00PM: http://twitter.com/HuntShowdown/status/1039136604890300417
gleaming meadow
rotund ferry
Am I going blind or do some of the words look distorted?
gleaming meadow
They are, as i mentioned the last picture the guy was trying to figure out problems with his vision. He was researching blurs, rings, and halos in his vision off some site
soft sable
/\
gleaming meadow
They are noticably worse this time around
rotund ferry
Hmm.
You think he saw the bosses?
I mean.
Those things are un natural and don't belong here.
gleaming meadow
I think he is being affected by his research somehow, he is in present times.
gleaming meadow
The progression of his vision loss is rapid and unusual
rotund ferry
Maybe the research is too much for him?
gleaming meadow
Unclear atm, could be the sculptor or another demon at work though in present times. If i remember right, this has happened multiple times throughout history
Anyways, really got to go. Peace out guys and good luck
fathom badge
the man who escaped the sanitariam could be on the back of this?
the chalk drawings
possibly the sanitoruim in Jacksonville IL, although I havent found good records indicating when it was opened
it was "Established" in 1871, and it was one of the best in the US within that time i believe
gleaming meadow
Not sure i understand what you mean
@mellow jetty could you tell the guys who write this their work is awesome. The last time I had so much fun putting together lore was in dark souls and the elder scrolls before that. Everybody likes to know their work is appreciated :)
mellow jetty
It will be my pleasure to tell him that. Or rather, to tell them that cuz its a team effort 😃
@gleaming meadow
Message send.
Your answer: On behalf of my team, you're welcome! We will try to do more and better a LOT of lore is coming towards lore lovers. Very soon! @gleaming meadow
gleaming meadow
I have a feeling something is about to go down big time with our little researcher
Small theory in the works. Could the sundering possibly have something to do with distorting timelines?
fathom badge
from the word "Sundering" i would assume it's the opening of a hole to hell
tearing a whole into hell basically
gleaming meadow
I dont know much about it but I feel this present time researcher plays some role in the past events somehow or starts a new chain of events in the future
New theory, could he be the one piecing together the notes in the lore in game? Aka the writer of "THE CALDWELL??"
Pardon my lack of knowledge of some of the current lore, havent gone through it all yet. Do we know who is compiling all the notes together yet?
rotund ferry
This game has dark souls type lore like jesus
cold badger
im gonna grab the cipher from the link
100% guarantee you they're going to do something with that instead of voynich
gleaming meadow
For sure, good thinking ahead
cold badger
its a whole dictionary
there might be a message in the specific symbols they picked out?
gleaming meadow
We should look at all the sigils in the picture in the dictionary, there is explanations of what they do starting alphabetically at page 39
gleaming meadow
Exodus 34:7
Keeping steadfast love for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, but who will by no means clear the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children and the children's children, to the third and the fourth generation.”
Perhaps our researcher is a great grandchild of one of the hunter that might have been forgiven?
cold badger
could be possible
the hunter's "gift" to see the dark vision and shit passed down through generations
now being triggered by the researcher's increased exposure to the Louisiana event
gleaming meadow
That's a great thought!
pliant vessel
Can I get a TL;DR of the Louisiana event?
I love lore, but I don't know where to start for Hunt
gleaming meadow
sundering>hell breaks loose> hunters kill things> sculptor> ??? > profit
pliant vessel
👌
gleaming meadow
start at the wiki, the lore is very broken up and we are piecing it together. also you can check the past photos in the hunt twitter, or you can scroll up through here and lore hardcore to put some stuff together
pliant vessel
Who da butcher doh
gleaming meadow
its difficult to describe the whole thing because we are on incomplete information. best to ask small questions about things and put your own stuff together
butcher unknown at this moment
gleaming meadow
the spider is speculated to be one of the doctors
cold badger
The sculptor wasnt interested in them
low sleet
Ah ok
odd bridge
the sculptor?
cold badger
read pinned messages lmao
odd bridge
I've been
sly bison
Read harder .-.
soft sable
/\
copper flower
Is there any lore on water devils atm?
fair adder
Question: You get infected and become a ghoul or you need to be dead to become a ghoul?
As far as we know, the curse “could” be lifted. But at what cost?
slim hatch
Seems to work both ways
Dr.Reeds notes show that he was fully awake as many others
While changing
While some elements in game hint at the fact that it can happen to corpses as well
jovial plover
Hello i'm an idiot at lore can one of you intellectuals give me a run down of what we know for the lore so far? Please @ me the info thanks boiz!
lusty valley
Its no wonder there are so many crows in this game, The second crows get a taste of blood they seem to only want that.
sly bison
Don't forget those damn dirty ducks.... monsters..
haughty saffron
Where are dr. Reed’s notes found?
mellow jetty
@haughty saffron This should help you: https://www.huntshowdown.com/news/the-trials-of-dr-reed
cold badger
There was a new tweet
gleaming meadow
dun dun dun!
gleaming meadow
Sundering possibly happening 1895???
Seems to be the same guy on the pc, he found some lost AHA chapters? A prediction that the world would end that year by One Reverend Robert Reid of Erie?
Anybody translate this yet?
Last sentence of The Trials of Dr. Reed
gleaming meadow
Google read it as hungarian, i swapped it to hatian creole
Its translated from hatian creole
daring relic
so what's that suppose to mean
this is the answer for Dr. read?
"this is the answer to"
not for dr.read that for sure
gleaming meadow
I dont got the answers to the universe lol, i'm just trying to find as many leads in the lore as possible
haughty saffron
Yeah but it could also be an angram. "As if they try to take root. Words on the page"
gleaming meadow
Possibly, but i find it kinda strange that it tramslated from hatian creole and has Dr in it
This is the answer to the root. Dr?
Thanm you for pointing that out
Maybe instead of words it could be Sword on the page?
Idk ill have to check it out when im off work
slim hatch
@gleaming meadow We already have that anagram translated
You know if people read
The
Pinned posts
And this is why we can't have nice things
gleaming meadow
Derp...
gleaming meadow
you didnt get the otehr part though did you?@slim hatch
gleaming meadow
i dont see it on pinned messages, however i looked at the character sheet at dr reed and it wasnt on there
actually i dont see the one you posted on any of the pinned messages
gleaming meadow
slim hatch
Well i'm about to bail so i'll just tag the hardcore guys to look at it and verify source. Please provide snippet of the source because i don't recall seeing that one
<@&456385804353142794> Guys would you kindly take a look and verify the piece? I'm off to bed, good luck 😄
cold badger
Source for what
slim hatch
Don't know and not in state to verify atm sorry. Hence why I'm not making any judgement + This makes little sense in regards to meaning ¯_(ツ)_/¯
gleaming meadow
mkay, gnight
slim hatch
@cold badger I'll leave it to you man, Ejects to bed
Okay i focused for a sec and google translate / search isn't anagram resolver.
Anagram isn't Caesar cipher
gleaming meadow
now im questioning how i got that...
i cant bring it up again
however i did get this
damn im gonna go crazy lol
https://translate.google.com/#ht/en/sa fi tyeh ytr ot ekta no het gepa a a if you take out orot dsow you get "This was the case in the past."
im probably making something out of nothing
cold badger
Yeah hatian creole dont sound like that
gleaming meadow
i mean.... it seems like it
i just deleted "words" dsrow
orot and dsrow are the only ones that dont translate
I feel (flee?) as if they try to take root on the page. If so, you will not have to worry about it. This was the case in the past.
- removed "words" from the original anagram
- removed "Dsrow" from the translation for 2 reasons ("words")
1b. the words "orot" and "Dsrow" are the only words that did not translate from hatian creole to english.
2b. removing "orot" alone translated to nothing. - removed BOTH "orot" and "dsrow" from the translation from hatian creole to english
piles jumbled up confusion onto desk
I wonder if rehab can tell me there is something to this
cold badger
Dude
Its google translate bullshitting and using its algorithms to make it into a sentenxe
Haiam creole is french based
You are chasing a dead end
Its an anagram end of story!!
gleaming meadow
No need to be rude about it, if you think that it isn't important then just ignore it. Any information that can be pulled from something should be considered, even briefly. It doesn't lead to anything, but who is to say that it might not in the future.
cursive schooner
I'm Hungarian and it is not from our language
slim hatch
@gleaming meadow don’t take it personally he wasn’t aggressive we are people who pursue accuracy so he merely pointed out that this is very unlikely your method is akin to flipping a coin in google one time it works another time it doesn’t
It’s what was the term? When people see symbols, signs, faces where there are none?
cursive schooner
Pareidolia
cold badger
i meant to only have one exclamation point the other was a typo
gleaming meadow
For sure, i'll keep that in mind and just write things like that down on my desktop for future refference until I have a solid foundation.
slim hatch
@cursive schooner THank you THAT!
gleaming meadow
On a quick sidenote though, I still believe it worthy to mention that hatian creole was the ONLY language that it translated into words and not gibberish.
I tried about 40 different languages and nothing else
sick vault
it's always haitian creole, we used it for a lot of stuff already
gleaming meadow
I am aware of that and thats why I checked it and why I continue to check it. It's an anagram but it also translates to english from hatian creole which I personally think there might be something more to it. Without information to refferrence it to right now though it is useless.
cursive schooner
You're welcome!
slim hatch
@gleaming meadow Maybe you got me curious if you can make a consistent statement that I / we can analyse we can look a bit deeper into it.
You might be right who am I to say you're not 😃
gleaming meadow
I'll start from the beginning.
"Sores belt my arms. The flesh crawls and bleeds. A moth flutters at my ear. I flee sa fi tyeh ytr ot ekta orot. Dsrow no het gepa a a" - Final entry of The Trials of Dr. Reed
I copied what at first I thought was gibberish "sa fi tyeh ytr ot ekta orot. Dsrow no het gepa a a" and pasted this into google translate from Hatian Creole to English.
I recieved the following translation"This is the answer to the orot. Dr" and this is what got me excited that I thought I had found something; However I think google tampered with my sentence with the "Did you mean: blahblahblahblah".
I then tried translating again to confirm it and got something different, it didn't make as much sense as the previous. Below are the three different attempts and translations.
1.) Complete translation:
sa fi tyeh ytr ot ekta orot. Dsrow no het gepa a a - This is the case in orot. Dsrow has no luck and a
2.)Translation, removed ". Dsrow" because it didn't appear to translate:
sa fi tyeh ytr ot ekta orot no het gepa a a - If so, you will not have to worry about it
3.) Translation, removed "orot. Dsrow" because it didn't translate:
sa fi tyeh ytr ot ekta no het gepa a a - This was the case in the past
Now that I have properly explained it in full without rambling and posting broken up messages, i'll leave you guys to decide whether it is worth looking into or not.
cold badger
its google fuckin with ya
if crytek made something that translates in hatian creole and is an anagram of a completely logical sentence in context of the journal entry thats some next level writing
so occams razor slices off any chances that its hatian creole
not even gonna start with the fact that hation creole doesn't look like that
gleaming meadow
@cold badger I copied what at first I thought was gibberish "sa fi tyeh ytr ot ekta orot. Dsrow no het gepa a a" and pasted this into google translate from Hatian Creole to English.
I left out "I flee" originally because they looked like normal words to me.
cold badger
yeah i know
i read
im just saying
its dead end
pursuing it is waste of time
we still have to figure out whats going on with that last twitter post
gleaming meadow
yeah
I believe reverend reid was predicting that the sundering would happen that year
"One Reverend Robert Reid of Erie" is that what that sentence says?
haughty saffron
Why would that be about the sundering? It already happened in 1885
gleaming meadow
my bad, im unclear on some of those bits of knowledge
I was under the impression nobody here knew when it started
The whole supernatural thing is not limited to New Orleans.
The new Orleans event starts (again) around 1895.
Could this Robert Reid be from Erie, Pennsylvania?
Is this particular incident in 1895 important? It seems that there is a bit of research trying to figure things out in regards to this particular event.
A: Yes… This is not an ordinary hunt. The results will be significant for the story.
slim hatch
We don’t know when Sundering happened
haughty saffron
A-ha. I just went through the interview. An "event" happened in 1885, but there was no confirmation it was the Sundering. However, in the slide presentation, which someone made as a tl;dr, it says The Sundering happened in 1885, so that threw me off
slim hatch
Let me take a look might be a mistake
I've notified Evo of potential mistake that needs correcting.
Thanks for bringing it up
sinful trout
Lots has happened since I went on vacation I see
slim hatch
Okay @sly bison has corrected that misconception @haughty saffron Thanks for bringing it up.
sinful trout
yay order in the court
slim hatch
Well what can i say all of you're merely humans, humans make mistakes and I've universe to run so i can't notice everything 😃
sly bison
TRIGGERED
rotund ferry
i think what'd be really cool is
if you guys made another map
where you set it in another universe
with different characters matching that universe
hunt showdown in space
xd
or hunt showdown in modern day
cold badger
Nah
rotund ferry
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bn06DQjinS2/?taken-by=huntthegame these post are getting interesting
cold badger
o shit
haughty saffron
Damn human experiments now?
fathom badge
I'm gonna be sad if the whole thing isn't even demon related 
but we're also banishing monsters so i dont know how that would be
fathom badge
i would like to assume that he was trying to do demon worship in order to somehow increase work productivity
river rain
I... think that's far fetched.
fathom badge
probably not, really
possibly trying to open a portal so his workers would become 'Drones' who would work without pay and rest
who knows what kind of deals could've been made with hell
digital finch
maybe the sculptor doing what he did was in response to the experimentation done by the mill.
fathom badge
it does mention something irreputable about to happen until the crisis
irrevocable
so that sparks two different thoughts in my mind
One; they attempted to open a portal to hell in order to turn the workers into drones, but it backfired and didn't have as big of an effect as it should've
Two; the disaster that befell is the work of god attempting to stop it
of course the first one is about 90% more viable than the second
cold badger
hmmm
the experiments might not even be supernatural tho
could be something in the medical/technological field
like stamina shots or something idk
haughty saffron
I think the irrevocable (irreversible) thing would've been their destruction of the woods. Since the whole paper seems to take the "they destroyed all the forests" approach
It could be the experiments had something to do with the cough / sickness that the people seemingly developed
could be something that weakened their spirits and allowed the demons in. Two unrelated things that fall into place
haughty saffron
Still. The way the whole paper is written, it seems it's kind of unrelated. Just another piece of lore written in a gritty way to remind us that Hunt's universe is not nice, not at all.
Perhaps the workers they imported are the biggest link here. Sounds like slaves, probably some that follow a lot of pagan stuff. Haitian Voudou has been mentioned a lot in lore discussions. Perhaps Reynard imported some Voudou and then pissed off the workers by experimenting on them and pushing them to a physical limit
Yeah I contradict myself a lot
cold badger
theres no indication for that though
low sleet
Or Just a great place to work
weary anchor
Henrik fucking Graf
That bit in the beginning about the widow blanchett makes me think they’re hyping up a boss.
gleaming meadow
Im thinking possible boss or a new ai. The stamina shot plausible as experimentation, however it isn't something irrevocable. I have a feeling this human experimentation could possibly be the origin of the butcher.
low sleet
Why Butcher?
Quess this have more to do with grunts cause some of them luck like a Lumber
gleaming meadow
Nice and strong, would be very beneficial to have mindless hulking behemoths working for you
Ill put that thought on hold though until we get more info, just speculating.
Although, it would make much more sense for the butcher to be connected to the slaughterhouse
sinful trout
as much as id like to agree. we have no clue about anything of any of the bosses. so we cant tie them to one area exactly. however if you find an abundance of missing pig heads from carcasses, that might be something worth noting
gleaming meadow
Ill look!
Well now that you mention it... there are no pigs in game that im aware of
Tbh though I think the major clue in this is Widow Blanchette. There is little reason to mention her and her love for the trees except as some sort of possible motive to stop the mill
cold badger
yeah
well
not really a motive
for all we know widow blanchett died before the mill was even built
gleaming meadow
She most likely did, considering it mentioned her last days
We are dealing with demons and stuff though so...
And blanchette graves is like some sort of cathedral graveyard, seems very suspicious. It could be the next compound lore
fathom badge
could make sense, talked to demons trying to avenge what was happening around and to 'her' trees
gleaming meadow
If it was me I would make widow blanchette a banshee or something in game that can follow people like slenderman through the woods and lets out a shrieking howl that aggros all zombies to you in the area. Worst part, you cant kill it, only flee or hide
cold badger
but like i said we don't know when widow blanchette was around
gleaming meadow
We do know there was a hurricane in... 1893 was it?
Double check me on that, that could be informative though
Yeah, 1893 hurricane delayed construction. Mill operated for 1 year.
Henrik Graff sought ways to improve the workers, even resorting to experimentation
sick vault
I don't think that there is any significant connection between the mill (and enhancment of the workers) and the whole louisiana incident. The "irrevocable work" refers to the forest. If they had good workers from the start and weren't delayed by the hurricane we could snipe from the mill down to cyprus huts.
And the "experimental ways to increase their productivity" are most likely drugs, which they used pretty casually in that timeframe (cocaine for example).
If the sculptor got drawn by the deforestation (like the captain planet of demons) or the experimental enhancment of the workers (more likely), than there is not much evidence of it in the lumber mill text.
fathom badge
there is a huge connection between the sculptor and creatures
due to the heavy use of bugs as a standpoint
so it could be possible that the sculptor was brought in due to the heavy loss of (plant)life
cold badger
thats reaching
fathom badge
ouch, man
it's not that far fetched when you see the connection to the sculptor and bugs
sick vault
But there was no heavy loss of plant life in the area. There are still a lot of trees around the mill and the lumber production was subpar.
fathom badge
not wrong
river rain
Also, this is (presumably) not the first time a sculptor has popped up. If it was connected to loss of plant life (witch im sorry but yah i would agree with rooftop. that is reaching far) then wouldn't appearances of sculptors be more easily predicted? And since the AHA WANTS the hunts... If that is all it takes to attract a demon from hell, why dose it seem like the operance of sculptors are infrequent? If all you had to do to get a sculptor was mess up some forest I garunte that many in the hunt community would go out and do just that inorder to atract the demons so they could hunt them.
gleaming meadow
It may not have been the most productive mill, but there are still full stacks of logs and a river full of trees.
I would have to disagree as well though that the sculptor would have acted off the loss of trees. That doesn't mean another entity wouldn't have though. We know there are more forces at work than just the sculptor
cold badger
Yeah
fathom badge
I didnt take into account that the mill didnt do that much work before it happened
Apologies
sinful trout
its all good dude. were not here to discourage you. we just like to find viable theories then discuss them nd (usually) toss em, the only things we keep is stuff that has actually heavy backing and its stuff we ask about
for example whaTS GOING ON WITH DOCTOR REED
sly bison
What if this was just in a dudes mind that was having a really bad trip?
haughty saffron
Daaamn... The Widow mentioned once again. It seems she may just be important
cold badger
yeah
sick vault
the widow blanchett is at it again! Looks like she doesn't like things changing in her area.
So the church was build in 1870 and around 1880 (" by the end of the decade"), Gird became crazy and most of his followers left him? That's still ~15 years before the events of the game are taking place.
haughty saffron
but 5 years before 1885 ...
cursive schooner
I wonder where is the Healing water in the church?
Can anyone see anything that resembles?
cold badger
its just called healing water
referring to the swamp around it and the act of baptism
weary anchor
so it says that Ishim Gird locked himself away maybe this is referring too the basement of the church that big metal gate?
full fog
who was the fella who made the PowerPoint presentation?
cursive schooner
There is a ppt?
slim hatch
@cursive schooner yes check pinned posts
sly bison
@full fog Me. Why?
full fog
i was wondering if you will be making another after we get info about all the compounds
sly bison
Probably.
sly bison
Ok, ill remember.
full fog
👉 👉
gleaming meadow
Widow blanchette sure doesnt like change... I wonder if she had any descendants that felt the same?
We know she was still alive to oppose the church in 1870 when it was built and cast some kind of curse (on the land? On newcomers or people expressing interest in messing with the land?)
gleaming meadow
We should search Blanchette Graves and see if we can find a headstone or something with Widows name on it, she was most likely buried on her land. Cremation possible as well but doubtful since she seemed very old fashioned.
Or even possibly out in the woods, easter eggs maybe?
They could have some meaning or tie to the lore that we can't connect to yet.
lofty parrot
Okay, so I haven't been keeping up to date with the lore for Hunt, so what's new?
cold badger
backstory behind locations
sly bison
Wait has that actually been released or is it an upcoming thing?
gleaming meadow
we have compound lore for both reynard mill and healing waters church
you can find them both in #441004224621576192
sly bison
Thanks friend.
lofty parrot
@gleaming meadow thanks man
analog cipher
@gleaming meadow love your yearning to learn and teach the lore. Thank ya kindly
gleaming meadow
Yeah also there is blanchette graves lore!
Posted sometime earlier in social media
Blanchette Graves (St Sebastian Church?) was damaged beyond repair during the hurricane of 1812 when large tracts of land south of New Orleans were devastatingly flooded. In the months following, newspapers report the unnerving story of twelve bodies found in the church. They speculate the twelve fled there for safety from rising waters and were trapped for several weeks. Starving, evidence suggests they were forced to resort to cannibalism. Further tragedy struck when the men who found the bodies perished of an unknown infection.
12 bodies, suggested cannibalism and a strange infection inside the church after a hurricane hit in 1812. Could this possibly have been another minor outbreak?
Also, a hurricane hit when reynard was being constructed then a year following after the outbreak began right? Coincidence with the hurricanes?
Peace out, back to work! Lemme know what you guys think of it
sick vault
gleaming meadow
Ah yes, shoulda posted that. Sorry was in a hurry
ashen tendon
gleaming meadow
???
ashen tendon
On the page "desk of a hunter" this symbol was on a box
There's also a centipede like insect in a jar and the description is in another language. Possibly Portuguese
gleaming meadow
Great find! I got no money and its the weekend so ill be on looking for stuff soon enough
Has anybody ever tried looking for stuff in dark vision?
ashen tendon
Idk i just found out about there being a backstory. Been too busy trying to not get shot to think about looking for clues to a story lol
But it's interesting
I may be wrong, but it seems like there's not a lot of gameplay focus around the Healing Waters Church so I want to do some investigating there. Bringing dynamite to help excavate XD
Definitely some ties here to the practice of Santeria which makes sense for Louisiana or wherever this takes place.
gleaming meadow
Anything you can find helps!
Reading about Ogun on the wiki makes a ton of sense that the AHA may have some tie to him
gleaming meadow
Or at least maybe a hunter
@ashen tendon http://huntshowdown.wikia.com/wiki/Spirit_Box oguns symbol was already found and words translated
gleaming meadow
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Jacques_Blaise_d'Abbadie
this is the guy mentioned in the new piece of lore, everything matches up in game and historically to him.
I found something interesting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Sebastian
"Sebastian was said to be a defense against the plague"
He is commonly depicted in art and literature tied to a post or tree and shot with arrows.
possibly something to look for around the church?
cold badger
the thing about the lore for this game is that its 90% out of game
iirc there's been no instances of things being found in game as a result of lore releases
gleaming meadow
alright guys, i have found some clues in the church
ill post screens in a moment
on a stand inside Blanchette Graves Church
Found on the altar with the cross leaning against it inside the main hall of the church in Blanchette Graves
Probably seen this before, this is a plaque outside the church next to the rear window. There is another one covered heavily in moss next to one of the side doors, nearly illegible. I don't think this is supposed to be as clear and clean as it is.
I couldn't find any gravestones on the far side of the pit with a name on it. Didn't check the upper floor of the church or out near the water or the undercroft for anything as my match was quite short.
http://symbolism.wikia.com/wiki/The_Leviathan_Cross
the picture of the cross on the stand is actually a Leviathan Cross
ashen tendon
Give is all your pennies, Hail Satan
gleaming meadow
it was actually used by the founder of the church of satan in the 1960s long after the events of the game take place
ashen tendon
Says it was created by the Knights Templar O_O Down the rabbit hole we go
We need to get Joe Rogan on this
"Jamie. Pull up the Leviathan Cross
gleaming meadow
I'm betting blanchette church was some sort of demon worshipping church way back in the day before the hurricane took out the roof.
got to find out what that other symbol is on the book, it's on the hunters desk as well
mentions something about circles in circles in circles in circles
ashen tendon
There are Cicada's in the background of the weapon art
Looks like it was taken directly from the Cicada 3301 riddle
Now we are really getting into conspiracy
"The cicada is an ancient polyvalent symbol: resounding themes are resurrection, immortality, spiritual realization and spiritual ecstasy"
gleaming meadow
Can somebody decipher the voynich on the book that looks like the one above on the hunters desk? I noticed it hasnt been translated as of yet and I don't quite understand how to do it
every time I try nothing makes sense
cold badger
nice find with the leviathan cross
cursive schooner
I just returned from the Graves and there is nothing(out on the tombs and graves, not even in demon sight)
next for me is the church
but I can't say I come up with nothing
I got back to the swamp after that I'll share some of my thoughts
cursive schooner
I found all the things @gleaming meadow found (only if I get up more early... ) I found nothing in demon sight, but
I'm really curious about the top of Blanchett Graves
it has three bridges and all of them sealed off
now I'll try to get out of balance, to see that tree and upper section
gleaming meadow
bridges you say?
cursive schooner
See the big Blanchet Graves tree?
Under that a section with at least six grave script
but you can't get there with conventional methods
(character wont jump over the wall)
I couldn't find any working technique to get out of balance so far
I'm trying it with the hammer, axe and lamp
sick vault
@gleaming meadow
cursive schooner
Nice
gleaming meadow
Thank you
I take it thats an eclipse as well. I think that symbol on the book is called Snake Eye, I cant find anything on it though but some nonsense XFiles blog
cold badger
eclipse time
gleaming meadow
the proof is minimal but it makes sense. Snakes represent the devil or evil in religion alot of times, so snakes around the eye might represent Devils Sight or Dark Sight as we call it. It could be a ritual book of some sort
cold badger
gleaming meadow
It is found both on the hunters desk and in the church with a leviathan cross. In the "Dark awaits" the hunter mentions Faustian revelation hinting at a faustian bargain of trading ones soul to the devil for knowledge or power
cold badger
September 4, 1895, total eclipse for almost 2 hours over the Americas
dude that lines up exactly with when the news articles all take place
gleaming meadow
Oh wow
Yeah nice, this is probably going to tie in with nightmare mode
Im guessing we will get more on the eclipse when that comes
cold badger
gleaming meadow
Yeah that is literally the center of louisianna