damnit its pretty hard to read if youre not a native speaker
#lore-discussion
livid raft
i think he had an accident and is asking for help among other things
its signed off as Rittmeister H
i think its a military rank
he also mentiones Lowenschild Regiment
lionshield regiment
unkempt canopy
❤ you're a legend mate
unkempt canopy
My belgian friend could do it, but he is also asleep
cold badger
they should have a classic pith-helmet sporting english hunter as one of the hunter variants
...unless there already is one
peak jasper
so we've gotta find someone who speaks fluent german and english and can read the cursive, and someone who speaks french-creole
cold badger
i haven't seen them all yet lol
peak jasper
y u do dis devs
peak jasper
oh wait, lol, crytek devs are german aren't they
I guess it's not surprising then to find german notes in the lore
cold badger
yeah hunt is devved by crytek frankfurt
livid raft
french creole i have a friend who knows a friend but
maybe easier to make a reddit post
ah damnit my german translator moderator wants to do it tomorrow
peak jasper
lol we can wait
livid raft
#419152977417207808 could be a decent try
cold badger
lol not a bad idea at all
river rain
@livid raftLooks at random man on the street. "Hay!" the man looks over confused. "Yah, You! Are you german!?" the man blinks. "What?" "I Said Are You German!?!" the man starts to take a small step back "well... As it happens I am German actua-" the man is cut off as gamer warring a tinfoil hat tackles him and pins him to the ground before he can get away. "I GOT ONE FELLAS!"
river rain
Lol
livid raft
its just that i see germans everywhere when i dont need one
river rain
Unfortunately my friend who took German as a language before and was good at it, has not practiced in years and would not be able to translate that.
livid raft
its very hard if youre not used to writing it
i cant even copy it and google translate
its okay it didnt really look important anyway
just curious
river rain
Same.
remote falcon
I tried transcribing that German letter from Captain H. My knowledge of the German language is fairly limited so I only managed to read the obvious.
Google translate makes it understandable enough though.
https://pastebin.com/M5mpHJBA
I'll try to get a proper translation with the help of a German friend.
remote falcon
@peak jasper
Where does this come from?
"si se belzeboul ki ban m' pouvwa pou chase move lespri, patizan nou yo, ak ki pouvwa yo menm yo chase move lespri? Se poutet sa, se yo menm menm k'al ban nou to."
(most probably Louisiana Creole)
(I know some French creole but not from that area and period - but I can definitely read some French in that sentence)
crimson kiln
cold badger
@remote falcon its from the game tab of the hunt showdown website
remote falcon
Ah found it. Thanks! @cold badger
rancid iris
@remote falcon i could try transling it properly into english ^^
cold badger
Heck yea do it
rancid iris
Your Grace
Only a few weeks have passed since my last records and to my regret I have to tell you that my investigations into the lion's shield regiment on their former battlefields continued to be unsuccessful.
Looking for the stolen regiment diary, I arrived on the shores of the Great Lakes first of the month.
But here, however, I was not successful.
As the Lord wished, the encounter with a wind dragon brought a new trail that leads to the south, into the marshes of Louisiana.
The worrying stories that have been told me about the incidents in this godforsaken place once again indicate to me that more than just the diary has been lost.
I will turn my back on Chicago in the next few days and for this reason I bought a passage with the Union Pacific Railway to Saint Louis.
From there, a steamship will take me south across the Mississippi.
I pray that the virgin whose name the city bears will give me a clue to finish my search successfully.
Your most subservient servant,
Captain H
cold badger
Thank u thank u thank u
rancid iris
@cold badger no Problem, nothing else to do in my lunchtime ^^
remote falcon
@rancid iris Danke!
cold badger
@livid raft
peak jasper
@rancid iris thanks! Judging by the other in-game notes it seems as though a warrior-religious sect has come to America seeking (stolen?) artifacts and devils to purge
and from the letter it sounds like the first regiment they sent got wiped out
@remote falcon Google translate seems to indicate it's something along the lines of "If it is the devil that gives us the power to banish demons, his followers, then <unknown>"
the last bit gives me wildly different answers based on which autotranslate is used, from something about everyone being judged to something along the lines of "this is why he gave us this power"
remote falcon
Thanks @peak jasper
I received a reply from a friend who's more familiar (than me) with the Antillean Creole and his translation is close to what you got.
Overall it seems like those people has lost the power to banish evil spirits and the person is wondering if that's why they're all being "banished" / "doomed".
pouvwa = pouvoir = power
chase move lespri = chasser les mauvais esprits (French) = to drive evil spirits away
Se poutet sa = C’est peut-être (pour) ça = it might be that… / it might be the reason why
belzeboul = (obviously) Belzebuth (figure of great evil)
It would fit the lore as the local population tried to react to the evil and defend itself but failed despite their efforts and knowledge.
Something really evil and powerful is at work here 😉
granite hazel
Would this be something the hunter would yell to banish the demon/
remote falcon
At this point, as any voodoo failed I think we only know the obvious first step for banishing, and it's made of lead and powder :p
I'd love to know more about the occult behind the clues and that link with that "dimension" that sort of gift of perception our hunters are doomed with.
I remember some videos about Hunt that shows visions when you activated the clue (a glimpse at the spider and environment).
It looked cool but far more convoluted than just heading to the next area - I'm sure they put that idea away for a slicker gameplay experience.
granite hazel
So, are you saying that using an actual technique in voodoo magic for banishing added to the game would make it more authentic?
Or more realistic?
remote falcon
Not at all. It's just that the note in Creole suggests they tried everything they could (if the translation is accurate enough), so it could be voodoo, catholic exorcism, islamic rituals, shamanism, whatever, the lore is depicted as something beyond comprehension even if some kind on secret society of hunters are ready to deal with it.
At least I enjoy reading it that way.
peak jasper
@remote falcon based on the hunter's desk it seems as though the hunters' ability to banish demons is based on some gift/curse in their blood
likely related to the voodoo practice, as there's a few letters in the hunter's desk and the in-game incident journal about the hunter's guild interacting with a famous voodoo practicioner
remote falcon
Ah thanks for those details. It's definitely related then.
I really like they dived into the cultural influences of that region, it's both original and enticing.
peak jasper
There's also mention of a "sculptor", someone or something purposefully crafting the people of the bayou into the monsters you fight
perhaps the devil grants the power to banish these creatures as he's not responsible for them?
yeah, it's cool that they went to those lengths, though it's killing me to not have a full translation of the creole
remote falcon
I hope the lack of translation is part of the Early Access, even for that German letter. And I'm convinced if enough players ask for translations they'll provide it (hopefully).
peak jasper
where is that found?
cold badger
On the game website
peak jasper
ahh, I see it now, on the hunt showdown page
Not at all sure what the text underneath is
cold badger
Looks like some LOTR stuff lol
remote falcon
not Greek but it might be some fancy placeholder
at least it's left to right, so a few languages are excluded 😉
cold badger
Hmm
peak jasper
Does this look about right?
limpid lark
@peak jasper bruh, linguist here but honestly i have no idea
try asking r/penmanshiporn
they are fond of these kind of shit'
shy zealot
It appears to be a photo of a woman, albeit with her head replaced by darkness
It looks similar to what we see in Dark Sight imo
The darkness almost looks like some kind of creature , could be pareidolia but those lines on the side certainly remind me of spider legs.
livid raft
@rancid iris thank you so much for translating the german text! how long did it take?
remote falcon
I had an idea and I think I found the font used for that mysterious writing.
They picked the one thing no one knows about -> Voynich manuscript
check the font
It should be possible to translate the text now (or not, as the font set is not identical)
peak jasper
yeah, that's definitely it Bourrinopathe
Here's the supposed Voynich alphabet
the words are so cluttered that I can't really transcribe it though
cold badger
Its a start tho. Nice find!
supple thunder
Maybe she becames the spider? The spider have a face, that shadow there looks like the spider
shell otter
Hey guys new here. Looks like the right font anyone have time to translate? I can't atm. At work.
junior crane
Are there any officially canon characters with bios or pictures or even concept art of?
shell otter
Third word. Top line I think it spells "Teyin"
peak jasper
@shell otter actually it seems as though scholars can't agree on which letters are which or even what constitutes a single letter. Supposedly there are three different transcription suggestions that are totally differint
shell otter
@peak jasper Ach so.
@here here are the translations ladies and gents. SPOOPY Hunt: Showdown Preview Picture Translations https://imgur.com/gallery/Mxv8G
Don't know how accurate they are. Seems to be legit? Sorry if this has already been posted.
shy zealot
Thank you.
granite meteor
This is going to sound crazy, but can someone point me to the place with the most lore for this game? Is it the game's website? I wanna write like a fanfic and need as much lore as possible. Anything to help out with it.
rotund ferry
@granite meteor There's a mixture between the games website, and in game- the Louisiana files . But If I remember correctly, someone managed to make a dropbox file will all the current lore in there.
granite meteor
^_^
rotund ferry
@granite meteor Here you go. Sadly, I can't remember who did this, and I wish I could, but this was what I mentioned before:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1llb_mscXfm_YcvE2Dl9ocXCmHUGzS3cP
granite meteor
@rotund ferry you are awesome. Thanks so much!
granite meteor
That is actually really awesome.
rotund ferry
SPOOKYYYYYYYY
I actually love that.
cold badger
Yeah pretty crazy how the clues actually work
Anyone ever notice how the images that flash in the clues change depending on spider or butcher?
livid raft
gonna watch this later
maybe they showed something
yeah the pit inside the clues
is taht what you mean
granite meteor
That is such a great piece of insight.
pastel harbor
we'll never gonna have a supressor acording to the lore or this is planned ?
livid raft
i'd like moer traps\
cold badger
Bear trap consumable
granite meteor
LOL
naive seal
@rotund ferry @granite meteor actually I did that.
And there is more here. But I think only the manual will be of any good.
If u guys have any comment to add or any changes into that I would much appreciate
pastel harbor
i' thinking about weapon customisation for maing a suppressed sparks
rotund ferry
@russofolk#9526 awesome. Thanks so much for doing that man, it's awesome.
naive seal
Any other languages too.
granite meteor
@naive seal that is awesome. Thanks so much. Would it be alright with you if I kept in contact with you? I wanna write a book based on this, just a fanfic kinda project. It really fascinates me.
naive seal
@granite meteor sure. Why not?
granite meteor
You rock.
peak jasper
@pastel harbor even if they did add a suppressor customization option the sparks has no seal, it wouldn't function
the sound would just be loudest out the back of the gun instead of the front
remote falcon
I'm not sure what would muffle the Sparks anyway. That thing is a beast inspired from the real cavalry/post-civil war Sharps rifles - probably chambered for a monstrous .45-70 cartridge.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharps_rifle
If we had bullet drop it would make a rainbow.
Have a look at the beast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMFIdeuGJo8
peak jasper
@remote falcon if it is based on the sharps rifle, which it definitely seems to be, the muzzle velocity is 370 m/s which is supersonic (>343 m/s). There's no way you could suppress that.
call that gun guile because it's shooting sonic booms
remote falcon
Yes and without that thunder clap of hell, how would we bring terror hundreds of yards around? ^_^
cold badger
Ugh suppressed sniper rifles wihld ruin this game
undone goblet
scopes are already gonna be scary. cant imagine if it they were also silent
undone goblet
possibly. lets have faith they arent too op.
gotta wait and see
mosin scoped tho sounds terrifying
livid raft
alright lets wrap this up for serious chat
midnight tusk
The ironsight zoom is just placeholder for scopes so it really should be fine. There's not likely going to be anything over like 4 or 5 times magnification if I had to guess.
undone goblet
@midnight tusk any reason they did placeholder zoom on all guns to only remove it later? instead of starting with no zoom and then just introducing zoom later with the scoped guns?
everyone is used to the zoom so its gonna be a learning curve to unlearn it 
pure horizon
n
pastel harbor
i just want a scope for understanding where the hell is the hit point. I don't care if the scope don't add a zoom.
covert karma
@undone goblet keep in mind if the ads zoom we are getting now is the same amount of magnification then adding scopes will actually nerf long range engagements due to them cutting down battlefield awareness.
rotund ferry
https://www.huntshowdown.com/news/dark-awaits Did you guys read that?
Probably my fav article on the website
undone goblet
@covert karma indeed i am aware of the implications and i fully support them taking away the goofy zoom on iron sight ADS. i just want to know for what possible reason they decided to go about it the way they did.
livid raft
you focusing on a specific point
i wonder if we'll have side contracts to fight hunters that went mad
@rotund ferry i wonder if they will update the animation of getting a clue to represent what we just read
@rotund ferry
to be mentally in pain but i doubt that'll turn out as well as it does on paper
rotund ferry
I hope they do man
Maybe the hunter screaming in pain or fear or something
Maybe see random wounds appear that slowly dissapear
So many options :p
livid raft
yeah or like flashbacks sometimes
of the spider or something
probably very low on the priorities
rotund ferry
I'd love to see them implement something to represent what we've seen. They used to have a small animation play so you could see through the boss' eyes when you got a clue but it was removed as it would make a player too vulnerable for a short amount of time.
A sound would be really cool, but I think that's something else that would give away your position if it's too loud (the flash of light an sound the clue itself makes is already dangerous if other hunters are close by.
But I do hope they ad something it - it would be so awesome to see - I like your idea of wounds appearing and slowly fading 😄
main veldt
@livid raft play osrs?
slim hatch
Okay am I only one who is curious to know what’s the premise? Why is the shit happening, why hunters have abilities? Hunters are clearly not common badasses who took up guns
I mean i believe those are far more relevant to the channel than discussing armaments of 19th century as this channel is constantly used for
livid raft
not anymore
@main veldt
i think uhm a part of the country got taken over by the stuff we see right now
and the people got desperate
as per usual
on the main website you get a letter from a really famous voodoo lady
and then at some point they start putting these evil things inside their body to be able to track the monsters and kill them
but not without serious sacrifices
is what i take of it
@slim hatch
livid raft
slim hatch
But if there is no SP it also means they won’t display actual game lore through the game due to it being PvPvE
Yes i saw that image but again vague lore is vague it’s like TES where most lore books are so ambiguous and contradicting that it’s impossible to say what is lore-correct and what isn’t
But TES has issue of too many cooks in the kitchen in a series that have been running long. Hunt doesn’t have that they could easily have a decent lore put out
livid raft
yeah i dont like everything being laid out
and making up my own theories
like in dark souls
too bad they could never tie ANYTHING up in that gam
was a bit disappointing in the end
slim hatch
God i consider Dark Souls the shittiest writing in history
It felt like lazy writing rather than anything else. Good writing will allow you to reach conclusion even if it’s vague DS had it so brittle you could only assume
livid raft
they did keep adding more and more vague shit in every game
slim hatch
And when lore is too brittle it’s impossible to get a clear answer
Nobody is asking them to make novels, comics, shorts about the world but some common game aspects could be explained via descriptive Data-sheet ala Grunted description why how etc even if they don’t have a clear cut answer how grunts appear make a character like “Dr.Rozario” (random name) who can speculate on their form of creation
livid raft
i think theres a theory right now
an evil guy is making these things so satan is okay with us killing them
the sculptor
but im not sure
slim hatch
=.= he must be damn dedicated
To make so many
And he must be damn sloppy to make them so weak
All in all i don’t buy it 😄
livid raft
we're the hunters so yeah
i buy the weak part
and not really that weak if you underestimate them
slim hatch
Ow yeah Actually i’ve taken the most damage from grunts
Because i underestimate them and then fuck up or there are like 8 of them
Suddenly they become a real danger
cold badger
Tbh mosin should never have been put in this game
slim hatch
Disagreed
Mosin gives a nice touch
I mean okay we get it, location is US.... but also it's some alt/semi-fictional universe...
Many countries had interesting weapons at that time. Mosin being one of them
- You do know that Nagant was also kinda russian?
Nagant himself wasn't Russian but he was hired by Tsar Russia to design the Nagant Revolver
So by that logic
All Nagants are to leave the game, Mosin is to leave the game 😐
Dolch 96 should also be gone from the game because it's German
Ow and Karabiner also out of the game it's actually a swiss weapon
I mean i do believe they already put into game most iconic us weapons of that time.... Feels a bit dry + it's not Wild-West Sim
peak jasper
lol, you consider Dark Souls the shittiest writing in history?
river flax
@slim hatch you do realise the nagant revolver patent was used by more than just Russia right?
Look up late 1800's firearms on forgotten weapons and tell me how the mosin is unique or interesting compared to what was around.
The Vetteli at least has some uniqueness to it due to how it works.
peak jasper
That's all moot anyway because if you actually read the in-game lore you'll see that the arms company that sent the weapons to the hunter's guild described them as an eclectic bunch of prototypes and brand new weapons
cold badger
Well i just dont like mosin beause i think its overused
In ggames
I would have preferred a more unique stripper clip bolty
Vetterli was a great choice
river flax
@peak jasper i get that but that doesn't make sense for the mosin either, as much more modern stripper feed bolt guns already exist at the time of the game, see: every export model of the Mauser rifles up until 1895
And don't just think of the Kar98, that's not what im saying. Mauser did make more than one rifle y'know :p
But there's even more than that out there
Consider the fact that every nation or firearms manufacturer with a R&D team at the time were jumping on the magazine fed bolt action with possibly stripper clips or the like bandwagon to try and get their corner of the market
How did we get back to the mosin after someone said that there's more lore than 1800's firearms availability??
slim hatch
Ante in regards to Kar98 you do know Crytek is a german company? I've my doubts that rifle will make its present.
And ironically it was me who said there is more to lore than guns.
But people seem to always bring up guns in this channel
cold badger
Cuz you have a gun shoved into your face for 90 percent of the game
river rain
Other 10 percent is devided between a nife, a zombie, and another hunter.
cold badger
But yeah i just think mosin is painfully generic for such a unique game
Mosin automatic is cool
But they could have put in any other 5 shot rifle and it would have been cool
Er
atomic geode
I just want krag*
cold badger
Petition to replace mosin with krag
atomic geode
Yes please
river rain
Honestly the only Mosin weapon i have a problem with is the M1891 avtomat because it seems out of balance in the game. All the rest i think are fine.
atomic geode
I want them to be in the game aswell
The replacement thing was just a joke
But we could use some more weapon variety
I haven't tried out avtomat yet, is it that good?
slim hatch
@atomic geode Read roadmap more guns incoming
atomic geode
ooo nice
river rain
My friend killed the butcher in seconds.
slim hatch
@river rain I like Avtomat never used it but I like the idea of it. Feels like a detail of the world because such weapon never existed IRL.
But i think it slams into this world just right.
It even looks badass as a result of local craftsmanship rather than mass production
If only reason you don't like the gun is because it's OP take it to feedback / suggestion channel it's a balancing issue
atomic geode
You can kill the butcher with a meelee weapon in 20 seconds.
i was moreso wondering how it is against players
river rain
@slim hatchi also like the idea. I just think at the moment the weapon is out of balance. I hope thay dont take it away, i just hope it gets a balance pass.
slim hatch
Yeah then take it to feedback not the lore channel
Because Lore has nothing to do with dmg output and stats on items.
Same as killing butcher / spider with 10-20 melee hits it's a mechanical issue not the world issue.
spreads tentacles "Distinction"
atomic geode
There was actually context to apacho saying this because we were having a discussion
I see your point tho
slim hatch
Also i just re-read my response i might come off a bit harsh, I don't mean anything bad 😄
😊 😛
atomic geode
river rain
@atomic geodeby seconds i mean 4. And against other players... Well it has the same stopping power of a sniper in each shot. Its very effective from every thing i have seen and that is will the recoil. Just berst and your fine.
atomic geode
Yeah ok they should keep it in the game bit change it up in some way
river rain
In my opinion.
atomic geode
Right should we take this discussion to suggestions
atomic geode
Woops too late but ok
slim hatch
😉
river rain
Anyway. Lore. Did anyone happen to find any hidden information in the Louisiana events book?
slim hatch
Nope in regards to lore i've only one really serious speculation
It's all tied to bees or wasps....
And no it's not because of Hives but becase there are massives Hives everywhere.
Almost every building has a huge ass nest in it.
river rain
I didn't think that's it. It mentions "plague" and "yellow fever" and... Whate... Has anyone stopped to question why the last page has a thing on a vaporizing inhaler?
tawny valley
probably because whatever plague it is has something to do with airborn transmission
or, even more likely, it's some sort of spore or fungal infection
rotund ferry
@river rain I think a few people have, it's been mentioned heaps of times. It's all very fascinating.
slim hatch
ponders "Need to force Crytek to actually start writing decent lore." while checking the we're hiring page.
I could actually apply for some of the dev jobs... =.= but they are still coding the game mainly in C++
rotund ferry
@tawny valley I like to think it's something much more supernatural. Just doesn't sit well with me to think that there are supernatural forces at work, but the zombies are just a random plague probably airborne lol
tawny valley
I'm reasonably convinced that the issue occurring in the bayou is at least twofold--an infection and a lynchpin-esque tear between our world and hell/the next world down
because a simple plague for the zombies can't explain the butcher and the spider
slim hatch
Well it seems like bosses
river rain
@rotund ferryairborn plague that the supernatural forces are the case of perhaps?
slim hatch
Are a twisted version of humans
And that can't be caused by an infection
Grunts yes
Armored, hives no
And Meathead seems like a blend.
rotund ferry
@river rain yeah, I believe that is the case.
slim hatch
Also am i only one who noticed that Meathead and Butcher look extremely alike?
river rain
Nope.
tawny valley
the more that I think about it, and this is just rampant speculation from someone whose specialty is viruses and not fungal disease, but I think that it's quite possible that the tear between worlds caused some sort of otherworldly plague to seep out
rotund ferry
It's been mentione heaps of times how similar the butcher is to meatheads.
slim hatch
It almost feels like Butcher is a smarter tougher meathead both have extremely similar physique and distinct traits.
slim hatch
Also Grunts and Meathead have completely different trait from Hives and Armored
Just give me a sec
We know that most houses are overrun with wasp/bee nests so it might have to do something with those.
Hive and Armored are clearly related to bees and hives both having them as part of their biology.
Grunts seem to be more of a classical zombie / plague riddled human (Some have guts hanging out so i'd say zombie)
Meathead and Butcher are clearly attuned to the swamp / leeches butcher only due to the uncanny similary to meathead.
But spider feels completely out of place at it has no representative npcs...
tawny valley
no , no hold on
slim hatch
Butcher = Meathead, Grunts
Spider = None
X = Hives, Armored, Hives in all buildings
tawny valley
hives and spiders might be connected
spiders aren't insects, but they are insectoids
slim hatch
You see spider kinda eats bees and wasps 😐
slim hatch
That's why i didn't attribute them to it
rotund ferry
Are they actually hives/nests? I'll have to have a closer look in game, but I always thougt it was thick webbing from the spider.
tawny valley
^^^^
slim hatch
Nope
I think only place where there is web is the mine?
Which is sort of given but most houses have hives.
slim hatch
Go to any of the churches for example?
I think it was Healing water church which has over the top huge Hives
rotund ferry
I need to look at this now. I could have sworn they were just massive webs.
tawny valley
yeah for sure
what's your bloodline level, btw?
I might want to play with you at some point so we can go on a lore dive
slim hatch
51
slim hatch
No worries.... I usually play with my partner but technically why not
I'm looking through some of my recording right now to see if i recorded any church visits
remote igloo
The huge hive things are located al over, some in the tress around Cyprus, for instance
tawny valley
I usually play with my partner or my best friend but neither of them would want to do it specifically for lore
slim hatch
Found a spot in one of the recordings
You see in the door way
That's a huge hive
rotund ferry
Can't really see SS properly on my phone :c
slim hatch
Yeah they are a bit murky as well
Because i've settings on ultra
And that includes some blurring
@rotund ferry If i go into a game before you return i'll do a close up screenshot
OF some areas
rotund ferry
No rush :D
slim hatch
@rotund ferry
Here you go
That wqas just conveniently on our way right now so you see
rotund ferry
Does anyone know how the disease spread
remote igloo
My guess is that because we are banishing tings to 'hell' something from 'hell' came out and spread it either on purpose to reduce population/mutate or its a byproduct of having something from another realm/dimension in ours and we aren't compatible with eachother
rotund ferry
I wonder if we will see the shaper/creator/creature that they referenced was pulling the strings
livid raft
isnt it from the sculptor
and something about possessing
i read something of that sort in the lousiana diary thing
cold badger
Anyone know what the name "Dolch" could be based off of?
I've deduced that Caldwell=Colt, Crown and King=Browning, Winfield=Winchester, Specter=Spencer, and Sparks=Sharps
rotund ferry
@cold badger Mauser c96?
astral trellis
"Deutsche Waffen" most likely, people who manufactured [not designed the Borchardt C93 and Mauser C96
cold badger
Is the thunder on the night maps due to some supernatural force?
Cuz theres no rain and the sky seems relatively clear
shy zealot
@rotund ferry https://www.huntshowdown.com/news/the-trials-of-dr-reed
"Three died the first day. Two bitten, one scratched, all raving. I shot them myself. We did not yet know only to leave the barn at dawn."
rotund ferry
You are the best!!
shy zealot
"The infection is potent. Odd. I began an autopsy yet the corpse—but two hours dead—contained only moths. Living moths and no organs."
Anytime.
In any case, the infection was almost certainly created by the Sculptor entity
rotund ferry
I wonder if we will have a special event hunt to wound the sculptor
rotund ferry
True
stone sparrow
There's been more than one sculptor:
rotund ferry
did you guys see the reddit thread about the 5th monster and the Voynich letter? https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntShowdown/comments/84ue3p/theory_i_was_exploring_the_sight_a_bit_and_i/
i see voynich was discussed here before
naive seal
I need a HELP
John Hayward Hunter
is Hunter actually his name? or is just John Hayward and he is a Hunter?
Looks like it's his name, but I could be wrong!?!?
anyone knows?
naive seal
actually, I just find out. It is his name!
slim hatch
@rotund ferry MOAR!!!!
tawny valley
so what exactly is the Sculptor?
river rain
Perhaps it is what made/makes the butchers, and spiders.
remote igloo
It splices
river rain
Take the flesh of several humans and animals, reassemble some bones and add some extra limbs. then give it life and send it out into the word to cause what destruction it can. perhaps something like that?
tawny valley
so why isn't it called the Surgeon?
or the Grafter?
or anything like that?
Sculptor doesn't fit the description 🤔
river rain
personally i think it fits perfectly.
tawny valley
sculptors carve a block of material and pare it down into something
what you're describing is more akin to surgery
river rain
Have you ever considered an artist shaping a batch of clay?
tawny valley
still all one material
maybe it fits, but I'm not sure it fits completely
because there's that additional step of breathing some sort of life into the creation
which sculptors strictly do not do
their work is either abstract or representative
it is never a direct parallel
remote igloo
sculpt
skəlpt/Submit
verb
create or represent (something) by carving, casting, or other shaping techniques.
"sculpting human figures from ivory"
tawny valley
I dunno, this is just my opinion
remote igloo
Seems like creating something from something else is still sculpting
Its pretty on par with shaping as well
tawny valley
fair
river rain
Also, just out of curiosity. why must a sculptors work be abstract or representative and never a direct parallel? That dose not make sense to me.
tawny valley
I mean that when you sculpt a person you're never actually sculpting that person
you're sculpting an approximation of that person
you're sculpting an approximation of a car
or a horse or a tree
livid raft
yeah
i think thats what he does
maybe hes trying to craft something
a likeliness of himself idk
tawny valley
but you can't make a car and say it's a sculpture. Then it's just a car
livid raft
honestly i tihnk its just a cool sounding title
i dont think they went for accuracy
when naming him
calling him a necromancer would be boring
or mad scientist
remote igloo
Sculptor seems more appropriate tbh
Because he is splicing mutations into forms that they are famliar with
tawny valley
if we want a theological perspective, the Bible says we're all made in God's image, and whether or not you believe that, if we run with that concept then that means that, because none of us are God but God allegedly created us in God's image, we're technically all artistic representations of God
remote igloo
And since the terms hell, demon and so forth are used its most likely entities from that dimension/realm
tawny valley
you can argue the same for this Sculptor character I suppose
also someone please shut me up before I drown in art history and theology
pls
I can already feel myself starting to sound like my father and that's Not Good
remote igloo
What, you don't like the daily ban hammer hour?
It's like clockwork when servers reset 😄
tawny valley
hey, reliability is good!
livid raft
thjey ban people here?
tawny valley
If people weren't reliable social sciences would be a nightmare
and then I'd be out of work
unkempt canopy
When I imagine the sculptor at work I think of a pile of corpses and gore with a shadowy tentacled beast (something like a beholder for any D&D nuts out there) reaching into the mass of gore working the lifeless flesh into some sort of masterpiece, bits and corpses fall away until the form is revealed, a fresh spider. Then a quick flash of light and it comes to life with that screech we all know so well, and scuttles off into the darkness. To where? A portal? A tunnel? Who knows
livid raft
spooky
river rain
Besides the tentacle beast, that is prity close to what i was thinking of.
tawny valley
Very lovecraftian!
shy zealot
Werewolf the Forsaken has these....spirit-/things/ called the idigam that love to turn man, animal, ghost, and spirit alike into utter abominations.
From what little we know of the Sculptor I'm reminded of them
cold badger
tbh i hope this game never adds anything that screams "lovecraftian"
it's so played out by this point
already tired of the constant comments on the game "reminding them of bloodborne"
rotund onyx
I mean, I've read works by Lovecraft and some of the monsters shown are similar in nature.
As of their origins, you've got me there.
The spider for example reminds me a lot of a humanoid spider that lived in a cave from one of his short stories.
I do agree though when you say that description is over-used
Lovecraft's stuff in video games can be a lot more subtle than "cthulu" or "sanity meter"
river rain
Dose anyone have an idea why the sculptor would be make the creachers? Something as basics as entertainment or is there a method to the madness?
shy zealot
Experimentation, evulz, making an area more suitable for it to enter our world, possibilities are endless
rotund ferry
alright my game got glitched and i want my hunter back 😑
i had a hunter of level 39 almost 40 with alot of money spent on it, the game just freezed and didnt even crash, i have the PC spects that hunt needs, a GTX 1080 and the game just freezed,my hunter kept walking and intantly died because of nothing
sly bison
I don't know if you play Dead by Daylight buuuuuuuut, PrETy GoOD JOb sO FAr.
slim hatch
Guys lets face it you can't avoid this genre without someone drawing similarity to Lovecraft same as you can't mention elves without Tolkein
rotund ferry
I do believe they have mentioned several times they have drawn inspiration from the Lovecraftian theme.
shy zealot
@rotund ferry Err, this is lore discussion tho
quiet thunder
You guys found the game setting to be lovecraftian? That's an interesting take on it.
Sure, they've got the "roaming the american countryside watching out for supernatural horrors"-bit down. But being a lovecraft-fanboy, I can't helpt but feel that the games need more crazy cultists and alien monstrosities to be truly lovecraftian to me.
So far, most of the monsters seem to be more of the undead variety. And while Lovecraft did deal some in the undead and re-animation of corpses and such, his short stories never really felt like they delved into the sort of zombie apocalypse scenario that seems to be going on in Hunt.
Frankly, after playing Hunt, I got a very heavy "The Walking Dead"-vibe for the most part.
That said, it would be cool with future boss monsters that are of a more distinct lovecraftian nature. Battling something akin to a Shoggoth (giant amoeba) would be pretty awesome. Or The Colours out of Space? Imagine fighting something that's not really "there" to see like the colours. The only way to really detect it is that the enviroment near it sort of warps or change the texture and colouration of it as it moves about.
jolly wedge
Small lore time, all Tier 3 Hunters wear an intricate ring on one of their hands. Does this mean there is some sort of Elite Hunters Guild somewhere in the world specializing in these sort of matters, or perhaps a hunters lodge causing these incidents so they have something to hunt?
river rain
@quiet thunderI don't exactly get a walking dead vibe from the game. The areas with zombies and the monsters in it seem isolated in smaller areas. (One small town at a time sort of thing.) if it really was a BIG outbreak, i so no reason that the army would not be called in for a massive and public exterminating instead of recruiting hunters from an organization to deel with the problem behind the scenes.
@jolly wedgeElite Hunters Guild somewhere in the world specializing in these sort of matters. At least that is what lore has been pointing to.
hexed veldt
@jolly wedge these are the real hunter elite
livid raft
smellcraft
proper cradle
@jolly wedge I like to think it's a sign of experience and wealth (you are paying out through the nose for them after all)
tawny valley
@quiet thunder I didn't say the game was Lovecraftian, mate. I said that the descriptions of the tentacled Sculptor that someone posted here were very Lovecraftian. The game itself, I think, is neither Lovecraftian nor TWD-esque
It's entirely its own
cold badger
On the topic of TWD, what if the grunts were headshot only?
quiet thunder
@river rain: That's assuming that it's only an isolated occurence. What if these types of zombie outbreaks are a common affair in the lore? What if the zombie apocalypse has already happened sometime during the 1800's and Hunters are from the few human sanctuary cities that are left?
river rain
@quiet thunderbecose of the articles in the Louisiana events notebook.
rotund ferry
Maybe the army is just SCARED
river rain
I would not bet on that.
I mean... If you had the option to send in soldiers or mercenaries that you only have to worry about paying them IF thay get back, what would you do?
rotund ferry
Or it's possible the Hunters are immune to whatever disease/plague/infection/whatever and your average soldier isn't. You don't send people to do a job knowing full well they probably can't. 😛
river rain
That is true... But is there any evidence to say the hunters are immune?
rotund ferry
No, but then again, there's not a lot of anything going on here, so it's all speculation. 😛
rotund onyx
The writing states that spiritual entities could be at work.
So maybe the pathological symptoms are just correlated with some kind of witchcraft rather than a new disease strain
the fact that sculptors appearing and forming are consistent occurrences is odd, maybe it's goal is some kind of apotheosis rather than mindless binding
cold badger
i feel like the reason the Army hasn't been sent to the corrupted bayou is because no one actually knows what's going on down there as the area is so isolated
the Governor downplays the rumors about the infection of the population deep in the swamps
is he in on covering it up or does he genuinely not believe theres any issue?
who knows
slim hatch
@river rain Well hunters are clearly not regular people considering the dark vision, the banishing etc.
midnight tusk
Yep, the devs explained dark sight by saying "hunters have a little bit of hell in them".
slim hatch
Well you know considering the symbolic for them is two crosses one of which is upside down.
I believe one could easily assume that one hunter represents the good and the other the bad 😐
And in reality they are all spawns of satan Sagenod I need to call up my dad and ask why he is now granting blessings to humans rather than making them suffer.
livid raft
I thought the two crosses just made an H
They look more like tally marks to me
Like someone has mentioned here before
Tier 3 hunters all have a silver ring
It’s pretty interesting what it could mean
slim hatch
They are high tier vampires! RIng keeps them from wanting to drink blood!!!
Goes to write a heavy breather fan-fic about gay vampire monster hunters
tender sail
send a bunch of soldiers that will add to the mess more than fix it> send small team of specialized members of an elite party to take care of the problem. they are obv not just normal humans also. they have the dark vision and know how to check the clues and banish the monster.
slim hatch
Yeah the hole in that logic is
If it was a specialized unit
They wouldn't try to kill
Eachother
Also
So far based on the story material we have
They all belong to the same hunter guild
So something there seems off
A plot-hole?
Or something we don't know?
slim hatch
In that case they shouldn't have hunter abilities Sagenod
livid raft
work in progress
cold badger
The AHA is responsible for paying the bounties, right?
river rain
@slim hatchAnd that is why you make shure your phone is off when you put it in your pocket. Sorry. But text.
midnight tusk
What's up @river rain ?
slim hatch
@midnight tusk We are his favourite members 😊
river rain
@midnight tuskacsident. Sorry.
midnight tusk
hehe, no worries. 😃
slim hatch
@river rain No shut up! Just admit you love us! 😢 I want to be loved 😭
river rain
@slim hatch😘consider yourself loved. 😁
slim hatch
YAAAAAY! Poofs to hell
river rain
chuckles and shakes head.
rotund ferry
That was the best accidental tag ever
river rain
@rotund ferrystick around. I have done better.
livid raft
whats this shit
stone sparrow
#lore-discussion at it's finest.
livid raft
whats with the amount of black people in the hunters guild
how racist was america back in 1895?
slim hatch
Ummmm
Pretty fucking racist?
@livid raft
If you're too lazy to read history books you can try Django unchained it has fairly accurate representation.
livid raft
it was in that same time period?
slim hatch
Aprox yes?
livid raft
so is this hunter profession some kind of punishment?
slim hatch
No but don't forget the game is still fictional setting.
And not all black people were slaves
So there are few options.
livid raft
you think the few free black people would go risk their life like tha?
slim hatch
- Hunter Guild picks people with the gift no matter their race or ethnicity.
slim hatch
- Hunting is still a business so a slave is a fully valid investment if you can afford it. Don't forget slaves were investment / currency / labour-force and what good is a labour force if it doesn't bring profit (Even thought lets face it would probably be more profitable to have the slave work on a plantation considering the dangers of the job)
livid raft
i think maube 10 or 20% were black?
in game its about 50/50
so that means black people are better hunters
oh yeah
having your slave be like a gladiator of sorts
completely possible
slim hatch
Yeah but that's stupid people didn't do that in history
And the very few who did well don't forget some people get to ER with Buzz Lightyear stuck in their colon.
One in a few cases
So i think the most reasonable explanation
Would be that
livid raft
maybe slaves got a choice
to become a h unter and buy their freedom
or work the fields
slim hatch
The Hunter guild doesn't care about race when it comes to having the gift.
livid raft
just curious why so many black hunters
lavish ridge
Because its the hunters that have been developed so far
slim hatch
^ No he has a fair point this is a lore question not DEV / Programming one
Only lore explanation refer to point Nr.1
lavish ridge
in that case everyone is equal and has the same opportunity to join the guild if they have the gift
slim hatch
You might like it but CryTEK is far too scared.
Of hitting the wrong nerve in the eyes of publicity
livid raft
yeah definitely
slim hatch
So they will probably not mention that in fear of a screeching SJW Backlash
livid raft
i remember how many tiems mafia3 had to apologize
slim hatch
Yeah nowdays you can't say "Because slaves"
I think CryTEK should expand on that area in the lore. And I'd suggest the option number 1. Guild doesn't care about your races, status, ethnicity is you've the gift.
livid raft
yeah like the guild pays off the price or something
lavish ridge
as of the monsters how did they come to be? Is it a virus of some sort?
livid raft
god damnit
slim hatch
SJWs will twist it out of context
livid raft
daaayum i got a random guy who is a t3 hunter with a mosin
slim hatch
And then suddenly CryTEK being german they will be labelled white nazi supremacists who support black slavery.
livid raft
carrying more than 10 of my last randoms combned
slim hatch
So I'd be quite understanding if they left the area blank or covered it very briefly to avoid screeching BLM members etc.
2017 - 2018 not good years for historical games
lavish ridge
@slim hatch I think you should change your name to TEDE
slim hatch
Why TEDE?
lavish ridge
The Essence of Darkness and Evil
slim hatch
Anyway I'll go back to watching Kung-Fu Hustle.
livid raft
rip grandma
slim hatch
IF ANYONE FINDS LORE or Interesting lore discussion do poke me!
cold badger
Lol how tf did this convo steer to blm
slim hatch
@cold badger Scroll up not that far to scroll
cold badger
Lmao how do you have that discussion without adressing the fact slavery was abolished 30 years befoe the game takes place
slim hatch
Was the Lmao necessary? I mean if you intend to show some kind of higher knowledge sure go ahead....
Ah anyway.
cold badger
Well i mean
cold badger
Yeah but you mentioned freedmen specifically
And used django unchained as a historifal reference
lavish ridge
my boy lemme tell you about the 1950s
slim hatch
Zip it 1950 is irrelevant to discussion right now
lavish ridge
lavish ridge
I know
slim hatch
The setting is in Minnesota correct?
lavish ridge
Louisiana I think
slim hatch
Yes
Louisiana
Correct
Why minesotta fuck sake
Louisiana is south US
And that area had slavery back in 1863 they were one of the last areas to abolish slavery
cold badger
No
slim hatch
And you can actually see implication of that based on the Black Grunts.
cold badger
Hunt takes place from 1890-1899
slim hatch
Because they have this head-cage.
cold badger
Lol no
slim hatch
Could you remove lol, lmao etc?
cold badger
The cages are on all sorts of grunts
slim hatch
Else i can't take you seriously.
🤔 Really on all i think i saw them mainly on black ones
cold badger
If they were slaves half the grunts wouldnt be wearing 3 piece suits
Also they cant be slaves because the game takes place 30 years after the civil war
slim hatch
Yeah fair point.
Hmmm
🤔
So slavery isn't a thing in Hunt's setting
Good call CryTEK!
Dodged a bullet on that one.
lavish ridge
why would it be?
lavish ridge
I don't know any developers that want to base a game around slavery
slim hatch
No but setting that
Implies it
Are sometimes chosen
Without the intention for it.
I believe the explanation that there are so many black people among Hunters would be still the same, Guild doesn't care about skin colour it cares about the Gift. 😄
- It actually makes sense
Considering Black people faced a lot of racism at that time such organization is a good way to sustain the family.
Thus necessity of life and time-setting.
Folds tentacles and nods
Same way as many rebels of war torn countries after the war turn to mercenary work.
slim hatch
Looks like same material that bee/wasp hives are made of
If you look for images posted earlier by me in this channel
We have discussed that it ties to bees / hives
As there are giant ones
In majority of locations.
- Hive + Armored
Have the same element in them
lavish ridge
but can bee hives stop bullets?
lavish ridge
yes but that it definitely not thick enough
cold badger
I think its just a super toughened up freakazoid wasp hive
slim hatch
^
Don't forget we can speculate here that it's tied to it but Toaster makes fair point.
lavish ridge
Shooting it with any of the guns excluding pistols would shred straight through it
slim hatch
But what kind of hoodo-woodo super bees/wasps they are
Is unknown to us.
@lavish ridge If it was a regular one yes.
lavish ridge
regular what
slim hatch
But regular bees and hives don't make monsters and don't build church-sized hives.
Regular hive
Those are the screenshots i posted earlier
When we were discussing bees and wasps
Those aren't normal hives.
They don't come in such sizes.
And you see the holes in them?
lavish ridge
the Winfield shoots with the power of a 9mm which is enough to penetrate several lavers of a bee/wasp hive
slim hatch
Do regular bees
Build such hives?
I don't care what it shoots 50cal for all i care. they can be all sorts of magical demon hoodoo voodoo bees.
lavish ridge
but if they aren't regular bees then why do we have hives?
slim hatch
Because no-where in nature do such hives appear.
Why is there a giant spider?
Why does a giant spider leave web.
Redundant questions imo.
If it's an animal no matter the size if it's of certain species it will exhibit the traits of those species.
Cats both house cat and a lion have sand-paper tongues....
lavish ridge
if there are super bees then the hives should have the same armor/ hive mass
slim hatch
One is a cutefluff ball other will eat your face.
cold badger
Wasps make hives that look like the ones in the game
slim hatch
So it's wasps thanks i'm not an expert on those
And i feel like HeadShot is just trolling me by now
slim hatch
Your speculation is along the lines of a "9mm can shoot through a hive"
That's not really speculation
That's more like picking trying to find inaccuracy as in
Why does that type of hive doesn't get penetrated by a 9mm bullet
cold badger
K
slim hatch
That's your answer.
lavish ridge
what if it's actually a disease that calcifies the body uncontrollably
slim hatch
Toaster thank you.
@lavish ridge It's not Resident Evil 7 and then we wouldn't have monsters like Hives and Armored
Who share the commonality with the hives you see in screenshot
We would have some calcium mineral growth looking monsters
That we don't have
But there is a lore point which states it's a disease
And disease fits perfectly the Grunt, Meathead type of monsters
While Hives and Armored don't fit the concept of it being a disease
So there are probably two things at play
- Ofcourse the Entity Sculptor
Which we barely know anything about
lavish ridge
but that's just it, there can be several stages to the disease. The grunts walking around cough and wheeze
slim hatch
And meathead is full of giant leeches
lavish ridge
maybe there are certain natural factors that can alter the course of it
slim hatch
We have too little lore available to us so what i could push off i pushed off from.
Speculating for sake of speculating i'll skip on that.
lavish ridge
and there are mutations that occur within diseases and viruses
lavish ridge
yes but it can alter you physical form
so the hives were split apart and the bees decided to make a hive
slim hatch
We know it's demons and magic by now
As i said
Sculptor
And to be honest I don't know why, is it me being tired or what but i fail to see what you use as the basis for your assumptions
So it feels almost like flat-earth theory to me.
Considering there is no implication of such a super magical disease existing in the game world
lavish ridge
but it could be unknown, and there are still diseases being discovered today
lavish ridge
coulda shoulda woulda I can base it off what I want
slim hatch
Else i could say it's Cthulhu because there is water there right!
Cthulhu could be there maybe Vlad Dracula as well
We can't know
lavish ridge
unless cthulhu is 1 foot tall ye
lavish ridge
maybe dracula has some really bad aids
slim hatch
Maybe it's the Swamp Devil of Finno Ugric people old beliefs!
lavish ridge
and everyone is a victim
slim hatch
Because hey it's one big swamp
Perfect for swamp devil
Even thought you and i both know that what i just listed is ridiculous. As there was no implication of it in anything related to the lore. Basically i used your argument against you here.
slim hatch
And about 1 foot tall Cthulhu you don't know it! Maybe it can scale itself!
slim hatch
It's Cthulhu you never know what it can do sagenods
The "There is little to no basis for such assumption but argument you never know it could be true makes it legit"
lavish ridge
I'm just saying there could be different biological factors involved with the making of the monsters
slim hatch
What we know
- Sculptor is an entity
- There is a disease that's how grunts are made maybe meathead
- Hive and Armored have nothing to do with the Virus
- There are some forms of super wasps building gigantic hives
- Bosses are banished which means sent to hell
- But Bossess were human at one point based on the text from Doctor who apparently is The Spider
lavish ridge
I'm not disagreeing with your opinion, I was trying to se your reasoning on how the armors could be made of bee hive
slim hatch
Because examine the pattern
Of their armor
And the material
It's same as those hives
So it's fairly straight line between the two that the material is probably similar or the same
lavish ridge
The pattern could mean anything though
they could have not wanted to make a new texture
lavish ridge
yes and use the tools you have to create something you like
I do graphic design so I have some experience in that
slim hatch
Game Dev experience myself.
livid raft
🐒
slim hatch
And they haven't released any concept arts of armored to refer to great. So the best thing we can refer to is what we see in game
And even if they cheated and reused material it's their own fault so it's the mostlikly reasoning until proven otherwise.
slim hatch
Thanks
lavish ridge
I might make a new concept art for me ~ HuntShotPalooza
slim hatch
Chitin: a fibrous substance consisting of polysaccharides, which is the major constituent in the exoskeleton of arthropods and the cell walls of fungi.
And guess what
The material wasps use for building hives is Chitin
slim hatch
XD
lavish ridge
Well now refer to their armor as chitin and not a hive
slim hatch
@livid raft +REP
livid raft
:D:D:D:
lavish ridge
Because now i'm thinking of ARK
slim hatch
Actually i referred to them as same material that was used to make the hives.
And don't forget Hive is also a mosnter
Which has a literal Hive in her chest cavity
lavish ridge
thank you @livid raft
livid raft
limited edition
slim hatch
Welp
lavish ridge
my new desktop background
livid raft
freaking servers going on maintenance soon
almost level 100 and i cant seem to die with 2k$ worth of hunter
slim hatch
@river rain Is about to school all of us
slim hatch
^
Fuck sake @river rain Hit enter already!
I can't go to bed
Until i see that novel!
lavish ridge
lol
river rain
@slim hatchthis might be a bit belated. But i was reading through and saw that head cages where mentioned. It also seemed like it was mentioned in regard to slavery. Personal i don't think so. I think it was in respons to the outbreak. If you where in a community that was fighting back against zombies, and people where getting sick and you knew the sick ones where going to become flesh eating zombies... What could you do? Kill them? But mabe thay could get better. I think the head cages where something put on before the individual turned into a zombie inorder to try and keep them from attaching others or atleist limit the damage thay could do. I also think the people of the town were fighting back. I mean... There are lanterns everywhere. Way more than nesisary for anyone, and fire is vary effective against the zombies in the game. Mabe its just game desine. But i would like to think the town was fighting back a bit.
@slim hatchcome on out of the corner... Im done.
slim hatch
crawls out from the dark corner narrowing her eyes
You know that's a fully valid point
river rain
My phone deletes things at random and put in words i dont want. It takes me a long time to wright stuff.
slim hatch
I looked at the head cages from historical point of view not from its potential application in given context.
lavish ridge
and that's why some hold weapons
slim hatch
@river rain All in all very valid point that i failed to consider +REP
pokes @river rain with tentacle granting the power of essence.
lavish ridge
scroll up
lavish ridge
read apache's message
livid raft
something about locking people up
lavish ridge
essay*
river rain
Sounds like a personal problem.
lavish ridge
yr
slim hatch
For someone with 100 Lockpicking skill 😄
lavish ridge
gn
river rain
@slim hatchgood night.
tawny valley
Damn I want to be poked with a power granting tentacle
It’s been ages since an eldritch being bestowed a mantle of power upon me
river rain
walks up to and pokes @slim hatch
Here is my impute on a bit of what is going on. As far as the wasps/bees themselves, someone posted about how they thought they were what was causing the sickness. I don’t believe that is the case. I think the bees are just victims of the sickness. Not just humans are affected. Proof of that is you see dogs (hell hounds) walking around that have been turned by the sickness and I believe it was mention about adding swamp monsters such as turned alligators into the game.
If the sickness dose not specifically affect humans I see no reason why it could not affect the insects and bugs. With that in mind, wasps (which is what I’m confident they are, not bees) are carnivores and will eat meat. There are a lot of corpses around. A whole lot of meat. I don’t see a reason why the wasps would not make a nest in one of the zombies. Food is right there, and some of the zombies are stationary until something gets close enough to them, so its reasonable to think the wasps make a nest in a stationary zombie and then it starts walking around with the hive now growing in it.
I cannot explain why it is only girls that become hives except that that was the available character model.
As to the comment that giant hives are everywhere in the game... we don’t exactly know if they are hives. What I mean by that is this. Supposedly (I heard it from someone else so take it as just that) what happens to the zombies in this game is that after so long the regular zombies will start to enter a state of crystallization (like a caterpillar making a cocoon) after going into this state it emerges as something such as a meathead or hive. (as stated before, I think hives come about in a different way. This is just what I heard before). The armored zombies are what happens when this proses of crystallization is interrupted. Which makes sense because the zombie is walking around with a distorted appendage (more distorted than normal) and has what would be the remains of its cocoon around it. I could see what people are calling hives as… well… petrified/ cocooned zombies. I mean the stuff dose look the same as what the armored is wearing, and as far as ones that are hanging in certain places that no zombie could get to, I believe there is a spot where a person was hanged and there body is still there hanging. I could see people affected by the sickness, not wanting to die “like that” and then commit suicide by hanging. (Or the towns foke hung them. Either way, it’s a possibly to explain why some “cocoons” are off the ground in some places).
And if nothing else, I did a little bit of reading on Chitin. It is a primary component of cell walls in fungi, the exoskeletons of arthropods, such as crustaceans (e.g., crabs, lobsters and shrimps) and insects, the radulae of molluscs, cephalopod beaks, and the scales of fish and lissamphibians. Therefore if you want to argue that chitin is what is armoring the Tanks, then you would have valid grounds for doing so. I mean yes, a lobster will not stop a bullet but when the shell is increased in size and durability to human standers? Not bullet proof, but it might be able to take a few shots.
This is not exactly lore, but i thought it might get some people thinking with some new light.
prisma hamlet
hey guys
https://www.huntshowdown.com/game
I just wonder that
why these letters are flickin
H-I-N
btw if u check the source of this page u can cleary see that we r goin to get a new zombie which is about fireflies i think
slim hatch
gets poked by @river rain gasping “Blargh!” And falling off the ceiling with a loud thud rubbing eyes with tentacles. Before reading
Sagenods valid proposal
shy zealot
@river rain Have you read stuff on the official website, like the Trials of Dr. Reed? Also, we kinda know that the infection was almost certainly created by the Sculptor.
Notably Reed killed three infected and even though they had only been dead for two hours they had no internal organs, just moths.
Moths don't even make hives, which makes me think they're not normal moths...or just things the Sculptor created that happen to look like moths.
river rain
@shy zealoti have not yet, but i plan to. And i agree that the sickness was created by the sculptor. I just saw a lot of people say it was the wasps on other channels recently and thought i might touch on that.
shy zealot
Ah.
river rain
And now i have.
Is it possible the moths are inside the person before they tern? That makes more sense then all the moths happening after deah.
livid raft
river rain
The letters H-I-N-A are fading in and out on the hunt showdown page.
livid raft
INHA
remote igloo
China?
livid raft
international hunters association :D:D:D
river rain
If its any note, H from together. I from die. N from alone. A from salivation.
remote igloo
Hina
Hina is the name of several different goddesses and women in Polynesian mythology. In some traditions, the trickster and culture hero Maui has a wife named Hina, as do the gods Tane and Tangaroa. Hina is often associated with the moon.
livid raft
olive moss
where do you see the fading letters?
river rain
Go to the post @prisma hamlet put up and hit the link. The first 3 are up at the top. The last one (salvation) you will need to scroll down almost to the end of the page.
potent merlin
Or maybe it spells out CAIN
remote igloo
Legacy of Cain?
polar olive
The a's in damnation and salvation are also fading
river rain
@potent merlinwhy would it spell out CAIN? There is no C.
potent merlin
I thought they said it was faded letters? So I just drew the unlikely conclusion that it might've said Cain.
dense mango
wuh-oh
heavy pawn
remote igloo
Well we do know tesla gun was a placeholder name for a weapon int he editor 😄