#lore-discussion

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elfin laurel
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We plan to return with streams later yes!

magic pebble
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Cool beans well keep up the great work!

inland anvil
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@magic pebble go Watch all of @rotund ferry s videos on Youtube it will give you a lot of lore and predictions about the game!

magic pebble
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Ya I have been, I’ve actually started making a lore series on my channel as well. Starting off with the stories then another series discussing theories of said stories. I commented on @rotund ferry “the lowdown on lore” video under my YouTube channels name “center step gaming”

magic pebble
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@timid pollen what if you looked at the hunters in a dark souls kinda way, what if with @rotund ferry theory of voodoo and the invisible world that the hunters are brought back from the dead to hunt the evil. That’s why John Hayward writes “I will die tonight”. Because once his job is complete he will die again and to keep up with the games perma-death the evil in the land has the ability to banish you from coming back for good. So when you die from the spider or grunt or butcher you are completely lost. Like in dark souls they are hollows, dead things brought back to life for one purpose, to banish the evil from the living world. To further solidify my theory this is why that voodoo priestess writes the head of the aha, how would she know about them if she wasn’t part of the process of bringing the Dead back, which is something voodoo is known for.

timid pollen
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I can see your theory and understand it, but there are some things that dont add up. Why would a dead man want money? Why would a dead man be a bounty hunter? Also, in voodoo, those brought back to life are typically brain dead. They only obey the commands of their owner with no free will. And while you could make a case for the Hunters that they are following the AHA commands, I do not believe them to be under some kind of spell. Now, I do have some theories as to who the Hunters are and why, and what the world might be like outside of the Hunt, but I do not want to say them directly out loud just yet to the public. I want to write them down and make a case for them xD I do think your points do have some interesting things though, like why the lady contacted the Director, but I believe for some other reasons mainly discerning the Dark Sight.

magic pebble
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Ya true why would John be able to write if he was under a spell

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So is it in general agreement the hunters are not dead then?

timid pollen
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Haha, perhaps! I mean, truthfully, anything is possible xD

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But I do not believe they are. I think they are very much alive. But to be alive is relative and very broad

rotund ferry
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Ya I don't think the Hunters are dead. And I have confirmation that John's "I will die tonight" is his Oath of the Night. Simply what he uses to keep himself grounded in reality, and to remember that he isn't a God, but a man that can die.

magic pebble
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I remember hearing one of the dev's saying that the hunters have some sort of corruption in them, i beleive it was the e3 gameplay when they showed off teh ability to find the clues. waht if the oaths have something to do with keeping the corruption at bay?

timid pollen
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In a way, that is true. But is there a direct connection? Im not sure. I think the Oath is more or less their life motto. What keeps them moving and fighting. My story The Hymnal of Maxim is about my OC’s Oath and it essentially reminds him why he fights and why he is killing his fellow man. Also, he reminds himself why he has lived his days and if it happens to be his last thought then at least it is a happy one.

magic pebble
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this all makes sense, sorry im just trying to find some solid ground to stand on with this lore thing, its kinda my first game ive actually dived into for lore

timid pollen
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Hey man no problem xD This game is a little difficult because everything is shrouded in mystery and speculation. There is not a whole lot of solid truth, so we have to make due with what we have. Honestly, read all of the story posts on the website, read the background to the game and where/when t is set, read reddit posts, and what videos/streams. Piece together what you can and let us know your thoughts:) thats about all we can do at this point xD

magic pebble
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If our like to check out my channel you can find it ok YouTube under “center step gaming”

timid pollen
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I definitely will!!

magic pebble
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has anyone figured out what is being said at the end of the passage on "the trials of dr reed"?

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the last 2 sentences

timid pollen
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I believe its just gibberish, almost the guttural sound a zombie makes...

magic pebble
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i researched it and a few of the words with exact same spelling came up as Homeric Dialect but i couldnt find a definition

timid pollen
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Hmmmm

magic pebble
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but not the whole 2 sentences, so your probably right its probably just gibberish

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tyeh ytr ot ekta orot---- these words come up in homeric dialect

timid pollen
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I cannot seem to find a list of grammar or translation chart

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Sadly

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I can look more into it tonight just to see if anything is there

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They have hidden multiple clues in different languages/scripts so its worth a look

magic pebble
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the only other language ive seen so far is from the voodoo priestess and her's came out to be "one tongue is not enough"

timid pollen
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Yea and a certain script of code

magic pebble
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I dont know what "script of code" is. does it have something to do with data mining?

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@timid pollen is crtyek using your stories as actual game lore or are you just having fun?

timid pollen
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Just having fun xD I am in no way affiliated with Crytek or Hunt Showdown

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And no, there is a certain script they use that is code. So it spells something but in different symbols

magic pebble
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dm about that id like to learn it. also in the the passage "process of elimination" i was reading it and trying to put togther a time line of when this "plague" started and something that stood out to me, well a couple things that did, 1. it says that wood is rotting, now depending on what kind of wood it is (which in the bayou cypress is the most abundant i believe) it could take a large stump 10 years to rot. but i dont think the dev's want ot stretch back 10 years, so if we go by food preservation for the 1800's and we say this is a somewhat middle class town we can assume that most of the meat was fat capped or salt cured and hung. Fat Cap requires you to store it in a cool location like a basement, this process can help the meat last up to a month, salt curing and hanging requires a month of salting then 6 months of hanging (think a really slow process of beef jerky). So i think we are looking at a timeline of a month (at the shortest) to 6 months (the longest) that this plague has been happening

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and the wood that is being described as rotting in the passage is part of a foundation so obviously its not as thick as said stump, so that lines up with time line i just presented

timid pollen
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Thats a really good thought... That leads me to believe what the AHA has been doing over the years. Its obvious that this infection hasnt been there forever. So what did they do before this infection? Has it exited elsewhere on the globe at different times? The HA has existed forever, but what has been their enemy? And how long had the AHA been formed? The revolution? Civil war? First colonies? That leads to a lot of good questions.

magic pebble
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i might have an answer for what they were doing before now

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in the passage "the trials of dr reed" dr reed states "I am spider i am scorpian i am moth." in the hebrew language from the dead sea scrolls "mastema" is an angel associated with moths. he is considered the angel of disaster, the father of all evil. it stims from the hebrew word Mastemah meaning hatred, hostility, enmity, or persecution. constantly we are shown text with references to moths or even zombies with moths coming out of them, moths are a constant in this game so it leads me to believe that we are dealing with some kind of demon that started this plague, either from conjuring or something else. in reference to " I am Scorpion", scorpians are talked about in the christian bible book of revelation and they are associated with extreme torment: "and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh man." So with all this in mind, if we are dealing with Mastema (the demon causing the corruption) and associating scorpians with the torment of the land and the people, and the spider as a boss in the game id like to propose that the AHA has been around since the bliblical era because the letter that Phillip Huff Jones wrote does not give any indication of surprise or confusion to what is happening, leading me to believe that he's known about these horrors for a while.

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Maybe not as the AHA but the AHA might be a branch from a deeper and older chapter of hunters

timid pollen
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Now THAT I can get behind

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I would really like to look deeper into this

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And my creative muscles are already working...

magic pebble
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Dude if this lines up it will line up exactly with the Homeric dialect which I’m sure is from Ancient Greece back in 726 b.c. Which will give us a time line of hunters that reach back 2,744 years. OMFG what if the first hunters were apostles!?

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And even better in the Christian bible it talks about Angels laying with humans, what if the first hunters were the off spring of this and that’s how the hunters can see the clues on the map and banish the bosses because of the power that courses through their bloodline.

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I just had a lore-gasm

timid pollen
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Hahahaha, if we can tie it back then who knows, that could entirely be a theory xD I wonder if the devs have thought this far into it... lol

magic pebble
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Maybe, but I do stand by what I said before

timid pollen
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I can see the ties and see a great story. So regardless, stick by it. Write it up. I can help if youd like, I know I will be researching and writing some creative stuff along side the theory, so if you want help let me know^.^

magic pebble
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Ill take whatever help your willing to give my friend

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im new to this so im kinda like ricky bobby after his first race right now not knowing what to do with my hands

timid pollen
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Haha, just do what you can xD Start from the beginning and find out what you can. Were all working with the same info (except dsdude has an in with a story dev...) so we can only learn so much.

magic pebble
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ya im hoping he'll weigh in on this convo, or a story dev would be sweet to

timid pollen
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Ive been told the story devs have not been active in the discord, sadly. I would love to pick their brain for all I can to make my content as canon as possible.

magic pebble
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right?

timid pollen
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Haha, absolutely

dusk flax
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Its probably a bit early for Dev's to be weighing in on Canon, there is not a lot on the official site right now. They wouldnt want to risk leading content creators in the wrong direction by telling us things in Discord that arent set in stone

timid pollen
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Well yes, but with a game this far in development they need to have a certain amount of lore set in stone xD And I just want to make sure my writing is following suit with what they have.

minor swallow
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Early alpha is not far into development for full canon lore. They might even want it open for interpretation

magic pebble
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@timid pollen do yo mind if i use your name in my youtub video?

timid pollen
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I do not mind at all!

magic pebble
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ok, im gonna redner it and leave it unlisted on my channel, send you the link and you let me know what you think before i send it public

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render*

timid pollen
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Sounds fantastic to me^.^ just DM me when youre ready

magic pebble
timid pollen
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^^^

ebon swan
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Props on that video! Summed up stuff well and your voice isn't half bad. 😩 👌

magic pebble
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ha thanks i appreciate that!

magic pebble
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in case anyone was wondering, this passage translates from Haitian Creole to Matthew 12:27 (NKJV): "And if I cast out demons by beelzebub, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges."

I believe this may be who ever conjured the corruption speaking to Phillip Huff Jones, with a lose meaning of if we to go to hell when we die then who are we to cast out hell's demons.

still contemplating on why this is on the desk

rotund ferry
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Ok here's my two cents on everything! 1. The oath of the night. I had the same thought as you, but had it confirmed that unfortunately that is not the case. It really is their way of keeping themselves grounded. Perhaps on a personal level it could help stave off the corruption, but not for every Hunter. 2. The last two sentences are just mixed up English. It says "I feel as if it tries to take root. Words on a page" 3. As far as the moth goes, a very popular symbol for death in almost every culture, but Hoodoo culture especially, is the Deathshead moth. It's because its wings appear to be a skull when they come together. They are also a sign of demonic activity/possession. 4. We do know the AHA is a new chapter of an old group of hunters. I personally believe their prey has always been demons. 5. Love the idea of the Hebrew and bible ties. My only thing is that the lying with angels doesn't quite add up. We know for the most part that they have these abilities because they gave up a part of their humanity.

rotund ferry
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They are sort of like patron saints I guess you could say in Haitian and Hoodoo culture

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Ogun obviously being that for warriors ties in very well with the AHA!

magic pebble
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just read your post

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and damn, thought i might have been on to something

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i didnt know they gave up part of their humanity for the abilities, is that in the lore was it said on a stream?

rotund ferry
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It was said on a stream, and in the "dark awaits" post it says specifically "That the color was drained out the world because we bled our humanity out of us".

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But you could still absolutely be on to something!

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That's what's great about a game in this stage! There's so much fun speculating that you can do!

magic pebble
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ture this is just speculation mostly, any speculation on this?

rotund ferry
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Is that on the Hunter's desk??

magic pebble
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sure is

rotund ferry
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Hmmmm I personally have no idea! Maybe @unique frost has looked into it??

patent birch
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When is the game coming out I can't wait anyhow

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Anymore

magic pebble
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this is dr. reed btw at the end of his passage, i tried to get picture more apparent instead of the dark one they have on the website

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so i assumed that dr. reed just corrupted into the spider from the way he was speaking, but from this picture im guessing he is not

rotund ferry
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I think he's the butcher actually!:)

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I have a video on that one!:)

magic pebble
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you think?!

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havent gotten to it yet, ive been trying to catch up on the streams

rotund ferry
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Good man! It's what I would do as well! But ya I think he's the butcher!

magic pebble
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i could see that, with him sawing off his leg, or the corruption turning him from a caring Doctor to cannabilistic monster

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but my question is, the spider and the butcher have an intelligent design, as in they seem to have a conscience, this pic looks like a standard grunt and those seem to be mindless

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@patent birch closed alpha this month, then my assumption is without any snags were looking at a late summer fall 2018 release

patent birch
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Oh sweet I signed up for closed alpha how do we know we get picked!!??

magic pebble
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they will announce the date of the closed alpha then i would constantly check your email

rotund ferry
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They are intelligent which is why I think it's Dr. Reed. Generally in story telling you don't bring attention to a character if they simply are a small piece of the story. Obviously there are outliers to every situation. But his corruption appears to be a longer, and more persistent corruption. I believe he was possessed by an intelligent demon rather than just turned into a zombie grunt.

magic pebble
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i agree with you, im just saying this due to the picture

rotund ferry
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Ya I get what you're saying! I explain it all a bit more in my video, so if you get the chance check that out:)

magic pebble
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i do have one moe thing about about demons in the game, when i was researching definitions for certain words in the game being used i came across "demiurge" and "malignant". something that stood out to me was that when these words are put together you get a definition of something that is evil in nature producing death and deteration that is an autonomous creative force, basically an evil diety that creates death and disease. I was thinking it could have something to do with whatever caused this plague

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plus just before it says malignant demiurge in the "process of elimination" passage, it says "handcrafted" so something or someone has created this evil i think

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to further explain, i dont think it was just demons spawning from hell and reaking havoc, but something or someone brought it here for a purpose

rotund ferry
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Ya I personally think it's the deamon Belezebub attempting to enter our world and become its leader more or less.

mellow moth
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@The Lorean#4381 As for the picture you posted previously, the language used is Voynich. The traduction is : "Darker days are to come". I made a reddit post talking about hidden things that are in the official website 😃

timid pollen
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@mellow moth May I ask where you got the translation for that? What codex did you use?

distant hearth
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Look at you guys going all full dive on lore, I can't wait to do the same with game mechanics.

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This community is shaping up to be amazing, we will have lots of stuff to dump onto the wiki.

mellow moth
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@timid pollen I used mutiple things on the official website. First I used all the "coded" text on the html code of pages. the coded text is named "Voynich" (as it used this "alphabet") Then I realised that each symbol = one letter, finding enough text gave me the opportunity to build the alphabet translation

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I made (I hope...) an interesting post about that on the hunt showdown subreddit

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there's also the source of the original picture in this post xd

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I can give you the link in PM if you're interested 😉

timid pollen
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@rotund ferry I can understand the oath. I still stand by my OCs oath and its meaning, as it is a very grounding habit to remember your loved ones. It helps remind you of why you live and dont die. Also, do we know for a fact that the Hunters precisely understand what is wrong with them? Like, yes they can see and sense these things, but does every Hunter (or Hunters before they are Hunters) know exactly what it is. Because I know the dark sight is a game mechanic, but can they really turn it on and off at will, or is it something that is always there and with them? (Just a thought. I know most everything says that they know and understand, but why is that part so final when everything else is so ambiguous?)

Also about the AHA. Yes, they are a new branch, but how old are they? What did they hunt before Louisiana? Was there another outbreak elsewhere? And where else is the HA? Are they everywhere? Did the other chapters die? What did they hunt before, and where will they go next? Is it the same demon or the same plague they have been chasing this whole time or are they bound in duty to fight all darkness? These are some of the questions I have xD

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@mellow moth Absolutely! I attempted to use the text in one of my stories but after looking at my symbols and yours I do not think the symbols match up. So I was curious as to what codex you were using that matched up with the one on the website xD

magic pebble
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Oh man I have a lot to look into today 🤗

exotic orbit
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Has someone compiled any sort of lore compendium or anything? I just rediscovered this game and saw some interesting stuff on its website and was wondering if there was a consolidated collection of lore source materials? (Obviously game's not even out yet, but I'm curious as to whether or not there is anything).

remote igloo
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There are some scraps on the main website and in their social media

timid pollen
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Nothing collected. Im sure the only thing we could do is a wiki, all else would be up to the developers perhaps. Im not sure.

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And more than half of it would be speculation.

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On our part, haha

mellow moth
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Yeah a gamepedia would probably exist after release. (or maybe when alpha is live since it will not be under NDA)

exotic gull
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Hello, I do not know if this call is that I can ask these questions more ..., how can I get the early light on the game, you will send me an email more, is not there a link that send me to a location?

timid pollen
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Maybe we could all work together to atleast write something up?

mellow moth
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@exotic gull what? 😄 Sorry but i didn't understand what you wanted to tell us 😄

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@timid pollen we could but with the actual NDA the better thing to do is to keep it for ourselves 😄

exotic gull
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What I wanted to say is that I want to know how to get the access
anticipated in hunt showdown kkk

timid pollen
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I mean we could keep it to ourselves for sure! But start working on a consolidation of everything we know and everything we speculate ^.^ also im not in the NDA, thus i do not know as much because of it xD

exotic gull
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Sorry, I'm having to translate for google, because I do not know much English. kk

mellow moth
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@exotic gull Do you mean the Alpha that will start the 31th of January? If yes, you can go on the official hunt : showdown website and click on "sign up for the close alpha"

exotic gull
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yes, thank you 😃

mellow moth
exotic gull
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ok

magic pebble
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im down for collaborating on lore

ebon swan
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very excite for some goodass lore collabs

magic pebble
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id like to write up some lore for some of the weapons

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diregard that last post

timid pollen
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Whats this for?

magic pebble
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i thought it was a cool little short story compiler app for windows but its shit

timid pollen
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Oh xD I saw it cost money and was like nahhhh

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Google docs is free and works perfectly well

magic pebble
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shit i didnt even think of google docs, good call, hey so im gonna write some lore up for this weapon, its going to be called Azrael, which in judeo-christianity is also known as the grim reaper. id like to tie it to one of the hunters you created in your short stories. what do you think? and which hunter do you feel it would best fit?

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Azrael:
The archangel of death in Islam also equated with the angel of death in Judeo-Christian traditions and sometimes more commonly known as the grim reaper. He has 4 faces to watch over the 4 cardinal points of the earth, he has 4000 wings, and his whole body consists of eyes and tongues, the number of which corresponds to the number of people inhabiting the earth, he will be the last to die, recording and erasing constantly in a large book the names of men at birth and death

timid pollen
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Hmmmm

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I have an idea

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A good on xD

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One*

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Ill DM you @magic pebble

magic pebble
timid pollen
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Hello again, Hunters! So I have a very special announcement.
@magic pebble and I collaborated on a lore piece about something a little different. We have begun telling a story of a quaint little artifact known as Azrael, also known commonly as the Harbinger of Death. Take a look at our work and read about this crossbow and its history. This is but a part of a whole as we see it weave in and out of Hunter history across the decades. Take this journey with us, but tread lightly, Hunters.

Azrael Ω - by The Lorean, Bran Morgan
https://www.behance.net/gallery/61050647/Azrael-

magic pebble
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

slim kestrel
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Great work guys! Very creative, I liked it!

timid pollen
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Great job @magic pebble!! 😉

magic pebble
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@timid pollen Your are a scholar and a gentleman!

mellow moth
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@timid pollen "Seldom" - Ammon Loveren Hunter 😃

mellow moth
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@timid pollen I read your "hunters notes" I really liked Seldom and Hymnal of Maxime. As I can really link it to the feeling of playing Hunt : Showdown.

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@magic pebble @timid pollen The Azrael story is quite cool (even if sometimes I feel it's a bit exaggerated : "Even the Pope himself")

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@timid pollen I would really like you to write a full hunter's note in Voynich

elfin laurel
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Ohhh very nice me like!!

timid pollen
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A full Hunters not? What do you mean? And so were my symbols correct?:D

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And thanks all!!

mellow moth
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@timid pollen A kind of hunter's journal entry in Voynich (mostly full of secrets :D)

timid pollen
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Oh okay, yea I was ganna go through and fix it... but I may just keep it o.O even MORE mystery that way xD

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And hmm I like the idea! Ill have to think over it:)

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Plus, idk how to make fonts so trying to write in their codex would be nearly impossible at this point

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Especially for the dipthongs

mellow moth
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@timid pollen You could ask Devs if they can give you the font (they probably have one ready xD). Sometimes they share contents as for press kits. At least it's worth trying xD.

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I could also try to create it with my tablet (I saw that some tutorials were on youtube)

timid pollen
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@elfin laurel Hey Maq... would this be anywhere near a possibility? With the sharing of the font?

elfin laurel
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We can't give the font but you can always get it yourself

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But I like the font you guys have been using

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And I think having it at least a bit different look for content not created by us is good.

timid pollen
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Yea, I can agree with that

elfin laurel
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plus the font isn't free

timid pollen
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I think I will just keep it:) I mean, the Voynich script is unknown in origin and obviously has multiple versions

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Oh really? I figured you guys made it xD

elfin laurel
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Oh sorry the hunt script

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I'll have to ask I don't know

timid pollen
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Oooohhhh

mellow moth
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ahab this one

elfin laurel
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I was thinking what we normally use my bad

timid pollen
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No problem!!:p

elfin laurel
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On my phone during break so read half the thing lol

timid pollen
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I understand that completely xD Isnt this your job? Why are you doing it on your break??

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Also, GREAT JOB @mellow moth!!! You solved the name xD

mellow moth
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easy 😉

timid pollen
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Haha, perhaps x) Now the true test begins

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DUN Dun dunnnnnnnnnn

mellow moth
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xD

timid pollen
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😉

elfin laurel
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haha I can't help it 😛

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even outside of work I'll be at the discord from time to time answering questions

mellow moth
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That's because you like your work xD

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and because we are all awesome!

elfin laurel
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Oke sadly we can't share the hunterscript

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Maybe that will change in the future but for now it won't be the case.

dawn storm
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All I can think of right now is Master Valtr's quote from Bloodborne
"Members of the League cleanse the streets of all the filth that's spread about during the hunt. Like any half-decent hunter ought to, you know? Haven't you seen enough of these wretched beasts, freakish slugs, and mad doctors? Sentence these fiends to death. With the help of your League confederates. What do you say? Why not join the League?"

mellow moth
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@elfin laurel Too bad you can't share it with us :/ 😄 But I understand maybe some people will use it to do fake emails or fake news to people...

magic pebble
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So this lettering, is the demon speak or old ancient hunter dialect

timid pollen
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I inderstand @elfin laurel ^.^ Certainly not a problem. Wont stop me from writing content 😃
And I can understand that you love your work xD I would totally be in the same place if I were you!

elfin laurel
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Awesome I look forward to your next piece!

timid pollen
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@mellow moth Do you expect me to figure this out? XD

magic pebble
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Is it*

timid pollen
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And as do I! I already have it in the works:3 should possibly have it done today!

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Title:

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Confession

magic pebble
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i hope i get into the contributors

timid pollen
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I suppose we need to be active in more than just the lore and fanart sections xD

magic pebble
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true and ive only been here for 3 days lol

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tbh this is the first discord ive ever been a part of

elfin laurel
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Well welcome to the wonderful world of Discord! 😄

magic pebble
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Gratitude

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lol ive been on a spartacus binge

timid pollen
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Haha, yeah welcome xD

minor swallow
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Welcome @magic pebble hope you are well.

dawn storm
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Indeed!

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Welcome to the league of hunters my friend

magic pebble
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@minor swallow i am well my friend, how are you?
@dawn storm it is glorius indeed sir argyle, to welcomed from such an elite class of hunters

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ok dont know why i decided to go medieval english there haha

dawn storm
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Hehe

minor swallow
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@magic pebble I am Very well indeed

dawn storm
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Fantastic to include you into the ranks, choose your weapon of choice and let the hunt begin

magic pebble
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crossbows all day

brave ibex
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Fight side by side or against the same loot

magic pebble
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silent and deadly just like my flatulence hahahahahaha

timid pollen
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Its Voynich

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Just code

magic pebble
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ya in real life, but who wrote it in game, a hunter or demon or someone/something else

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Also @dawn storm and @minor swallow I’m not trying to promote but I have a timeline lore video up on my channel (center step gaming) if you wanted to check it out I’d be most pleased to hear your thoughts

dawn storm
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Yeah, pm me bruv

timid pollen
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Im sure Voynich xD Its just a very nonpopular code and no one knew what it said until recently. However, it is often use (as here) as a codex for hidden messages. I do not think it is much more than that

dawn storm
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I'll check it out

magic pebble
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Ah ok @timid pollen

minor swallow
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Certainly, please pm me the link @magic pebble

timid pollen
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Excuse me, it is not very well known in public eyes. It is very popular among cryptographers and the like

dawn storm
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Shiiiit @magic pebble I'll do lore discussion with you

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When it comes to lore, that's the most amazing part of many games

magic pebble
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Hell ya!

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No worries @timid pollen , we should make the weapons quotes in that dialect

timid pollen
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I agree xD

minor swallow
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Very good video @magic pebble I really liked the thories you expanded with given the current information we have.

magic pebble
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I appreciate that bud

minor swallow
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My pleasure @magic pebble (Hank) you for contributing! Lorean will understand that joke haha.

mellow moth
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@timid pollen Yeah you should be able to decipher it quite easily since we're using the same font xD

magic pebble
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your missing G, P, V, X, an Z unless those letters dont exist in this language

timid pollen
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I dont think they do

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Ill have to take a look at it @mellow moth xD

magic pebble
timid pollen
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Thanks to you, kind sir!!!

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Hell yes man!!! That video is awesome xD

timid pollen
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So I said that I had one story in the works... make that three, and then one with Lorean xD

magic pebble
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👌

timid pollen
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Now there is a reason

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It says on the website

magic pebble
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@ebon swan @timid pollen there might be an initial training from elite hunters for the ritual they do to gain the ability to see the clues and such

timid pollen
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That they hunt either for god, gold, or glory (paraphrasing)

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However

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I find that to be rather... disappointing

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But i understand why

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Now that is an interesting point

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What are the grounds in which they get hired?

ebon swan
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Farmhands with nothing better to do, exmilitary (Civil War Vets) or gunslingers sentenced to death?

timid pollen
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I do have a theory. It formed from @rotund ferry’s video and ive talked to him about it a tad. However, Idk if i should post it here exactly...

ebon swan
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Is it not lore-friendly or something?

timid pollen
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Its

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Alot of speculation lol

magic pebble
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i think hunters could come from all walks of life to be honest, the real question is how did they come by hearing of the association? friend of a friend? actions performed in certain situations? sentencing from a judge?\

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lol somone disliked the azrael video

ebon swan
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WHAT

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why though?!

wide granite
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there will always be someone who will dislike someone/something for whatever reason so yeah xD

magic pebble
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lol idk, but im fine with it

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like or dislike it still brings attention to the video, dislike just show youtube theres controversy to the video and youtube loves controversy

ebon swan
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Ain't that the truth.

timid pollen
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Man, its all good xD

brisk mango
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@magic pebble considering all hunters have supernatural abilities, I doubt it's a recruit or boot camp situation

magic pebble
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what do you mean?

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i get the general idea, but could you go into further detail?

timid pollen
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@brisk mango I am pretty sure it is because of their initiation that they have those powers

brisk mango
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is it?

timid pollen
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Not 100% positive but i remember something along those lines

brisk mango
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ah fair, I was imagining something like x-men, where theyre recruited because of their abilities

magic pebble
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I think @rotund ferry made a video explaining it that they performed a ritual to gain the powers

timid pollen
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Yea thats where!!!

magic pebble
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test are yall getting this?

brisk mango
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I see your message

magic pebble
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is anyone else having a hard time sending messages?

rotund ferry
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I don't have a video specifically about it, but I've theorized and speculated about it in mine. The thing we do know for sure is that they did some sort of ritual to gain their powers like darksight and whatnot.

magic pebble
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since we know that, you could hypothesize that hunters could come from any background

fading plume
#

tbh do you guys think Crytek has all of the Hunt lore fleshed out, but they only have a general idea of what's up? like they use this chat to farm ideas and stuff to fill in the blank. 😂

elfin laurel
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We have special lore people obviously we're always welcome to hear interesting lore but they have a good idea of what the lore is like 😉

timid pollen
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Dsdude talks or has spoken to a story devloper so we know they have stuff fleshed out xD

magic pebble
#

is there gonna be anything new coming out soon?

timid pollen
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Dear god i hope but even if there was they wouldnt tell us xD

magic pebble
#

ill just be patient

brave mural
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Remember Nyyeeehhhhhggg!

elfin laurel
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I will I will

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can't join voice chat atm super busy running steam and discord by myself 😃

timid pollen
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Wait

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Maq

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You called the Voynich codex the “hunter script”.... is that a common tool they use? And will it play a more important part in lore discovery later?
(Ik you cant answer that, it is my thought process xD)

elfin laurel
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That's just how we called it 😃

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I sadly can't share any other information about that.

ebon swan
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Bran's catching every slip @elfin laurel is making and she's just like "AH SHIT not AGAIN!"

timid pollen
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Hahaha no shes probably right, she actually wrote it like “hunterscript” which looks like the first part of a font title. So shes probably right, but I wanted to see what she said...

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But she also specifically said hunterscript and not font or code 🤔

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Anyways... thanks Maq, I understand xD

ebon swan
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It could be something similar to the word "scrip" which is a written document that acknowledges debt.

hunterscript >> hunter scrip

wheat yoke
timid pollen
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Hunter script*

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As in a script

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Or scribe

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Like written words:p

wheat yoke
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Hunterstonetablet

ebon swan
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No I gotcha.

timid pollen
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It was a good attempt tho! I dont think they are linked tho haha

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But also i had never heard of that! So thank you!

ebon swan
#

How does the Voynich manuscript fit into the lore though? Its cryptography was never decoded. Are the designs merely similar to the art of Hunt or did they actually reference it in the lore?

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y'welcome!

timid pollen
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The Voynich script was never deciphered however many cryptographers have used the symbol system for their own codes to better hide them. In this case, it is a 1 to 1 translation to romanized letters. So one symbol is A, one symbol is B, so on and so forth. That is how it has been used by Crytek and by myself (different codexes) to this point.

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So a secretive society would for sure have their own code, like the AHA, this why the Director uses Voynich, aka hunterscript.

ebon swan
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Ok so they're referencing an infamous cryptographical script to not only add to the stylization of the game but to ground it further in the real world and give a nod of appreciation to those who know.

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Nice.

timid pollen
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Yea! It is really cool 😃 I did not know about Voynich until it was made known to me here.

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Also I saw an article where they believe they discovered what the Voynich Manuscript actually was back when it was written.

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Not a translation, just what it was written for and the like.

ebon swan
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That sounds interesting. Wanna link it here or in dms?

timid pollen
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Sure! Lemme find it real fast

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Not sure exactly how much i believe it

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But it was an interesting read

magic pebble
timid pollen
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Another... imma have to look at these when i get to my computer xD

magic pebble
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its "through faith and fire you shall cleanse the earth" in voynich

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im not sure if the font i found is exactly voynich but it looks cool

ebon swan
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It looks pretty good for a font.

timid pollen
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Its the one I have I believe!

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Has the same A xD

magic pebble
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probably should have posted it in our dm due to our personal lore NDA hahaha

timid pollen
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Hahaha xD It is alright:p

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Teasers are fun 😉

magic pebble
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🙃

magic pebble
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you know we keep doing this whole lore thing and i know i like where its going but, im interested to see what other people are hoping it will go?

timid pollen
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^ this

steady lava
#

I really hope for a path way of sorts when it comes to family lines, having texts for the random hunters with last names would be great

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Seeing the direction of story unfold as random hunters pop up for a story filler would be nice

magic pebble
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ah yes! then you will enjoy what me and bran have coming up, i know bran has made some really good short stories of hunters he has created already! you should check his stuff out! my stuff that i am working with him is mostly weapon lore that also ties into his short stories

steady lava
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This is impactful for longevity and imagination of role play, it’s a great idea and a wonderful investment of time I would love to read some of the stuff you guys come up with

magic pebble
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did you see the story of Seraphim?

steady lava
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I scrolled a good ways up but didn’t see it sadly

magic pebble
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shit i said seraphim, i mean azrael

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my bad @steady lava

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Seraphim is the one im working on ow

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now

steady lava
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Thanks for the link

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I have done some voice acting if you guys want to send me some lines sometimes for videos

magic pebble
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bro, yes!

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what country are you from?

steady lava
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Oh here’s the best part

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North Carolina

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So the game pretty much made in my back yard lmao

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Game*

magic pebble
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nice i used to live in south carolina, spartansburgh

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wait what?

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i thought this was based out of louisana

steady lava
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Lol just a southern joke

magic pebble
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oh haha ya

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ya some of the lore that i and bran have written could definately use some southern twang

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i mean im from texas but as of that Azrael video you can tell i dont have much of a draw

steady lava
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It’s all about being on top of the line not behind it

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Voice acting is just a mix of drawing a character with vocal paint

magic pebble
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just like writing is painting a picture with words

steady lava
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Yep

magic pebble
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here ill send you something im working on now

steady lava
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Alright message it to me and I’ll get back to you

mellow moth
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@The Lorean#4381 Yeah it's the same font used 😄 (that the easiest to find :D)

timid pollen
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@magic pebble I have family that live in Spartansburg! I currently live in Tennessee:p not too far

magic pebble
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I got friends that live in Knoxville!

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I live right on the edge of Spartansburgh and North Carolina, there was a fireworks factory behind my house

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I used to go to Santa land a lot when I was there, ok I’ll get back to lore now haha

timid pollen
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Hahaha xD

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Its a small world

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@soHercules#8270 You sound like a real life hunter...

magic pebble
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^^^^^

timid pollen
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Excuse me, Hunter*

magic pebble
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I just noticed it said I live in Spartansburg, I meant I lived* whoops

ebon swan
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Awh and I was half way there to hunt you down!

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Ugh, killjoy Lorean.

austere quest
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is anyone playing the game yet?

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i'm new to the discord

ebon swan
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There's been some stress tests but that's it.

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All stress test content is under NDA so no one call tell you much.

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Then you can hop into the NDA chat and get some discussion there.

austere quest
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sweet. i did that. looking forward to it. love the videos on YT

ebon swan
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Yeah there's a bunch of good shit on there.

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If not feel free to @ any of the contributors or the devs if they're on.

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They're always good for info and love to help!

crisp hare
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😉

magic pebble
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@austere quest you still online?

austere quest
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Just waking back up. About to head to work. What's up?

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@magic pebble

magic pebble
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nothing bro, just gonna welcome you to the cord

rotund ferry
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Hey guys I missed stress test, any idea when alpha coming?

magic pebble
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try that first

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and the closed alpha is coming Jan 31st

rotund ferry
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Thanks man, signed up for stress test, we get guaranteed key for stress test?

remote igloo
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They haven't said yes or no, but I'm pretty sure it's a yes for stress

rotund ferry
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Cool..

remote igloo
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Very 😃

timid pollen
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Why do people go to lore for stress test questions? XD

remote igloo
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They didn't scroll down enough on the left?

timid pollen
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Idk its strange lol

remote igloo
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Or it was the only one that had 'active' people and they are new to discord and view it more as a pseudo forum than a chat program

timid pollen
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Never -.-

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This is my baby

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I will take care of it

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Nurture it

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Let it grow

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Prosper

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I cannot type

timid pollen
remote igloo
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Why do you spam #fanart on non fan art chanels Whenever you post something? 😛

timid pollen
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Well see I was very, very tired and thought it was appropriate as a post for lore, hunting, and then took it to offropic but I didnt want to put the whole post so i just directed people xD but again very tired and fell asleep directly afterwards. So do not judge my actions xD

lusty cosmos
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start test?

inland anvil
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@lusty cosmos the Stress Test is stated to be later this week :) watch out for announcements here and on the other social media channels

lusty cosmos
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thanks

mellow moth
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If Devs make as they did last weeks, it should be thursday or friday.

dusk flax
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Has there been any discussion on the “why” we are continuously fighting in a Louisiana bog? Hot spot of me on activity....?

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Demon activity*

remote igloo
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I don't think it's a 'continous' thing

timid pollen
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It is a site of the Blight

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Its just where we are fighting currently xD

remote igloo
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I thikn crap went down and now we are called in to help clear it out

timid pollen
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We assume

remote igloo
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^

timid pollen
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Its my opinion...

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And i say this loosely

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That the public doesnt know whats going on

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So I dont think we were “called in”

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But we are responding to some shitstorm xD

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We sensed it from the Dark, and we came

dusk flax
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And it just keeps happening? Or its a one time instance in history that we keep replaying?

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The second would be fine with me logically, except that you have a hunter who improves over time so it would seem to be a continuous story

remote igloo
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I don't tihkn it's a repeatable thing like DbD

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Like we aren't stuck in a loop

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I thnk there are like 'break outs' of activity that people get claled in to clear out

dusk flax
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I was more thinking “the retelling of a story” than a loop

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But tomato tomato really lol

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Breakouts makes sense, though why the same place over and over? Or is it perhaps a worldwide event and we are only looking a one place perhaps

timid pollen
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I can answer this all

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One sec

dusk flax
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Lol

timid pollen
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Driving

dusk flax
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0_0

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Stop that.

remote igloo
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It's all over

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But we don't know 'where' all over

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Or for how long

dusk flax
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Are these official lore answers (I haven’t read much) or theory?

timid pollen
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Ok

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Here we go

remote igloo
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It's safe to conclude

dusk flax
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And....go!

timid pollen
#

Its speculation

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But

dusk flax
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You pulled over right?

timid pollen
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Its based on stuff

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Im home xD

dusk flax
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Lol

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On the edge my seat here

timid pollen
#

Well you see, these mobs and demons and “bosses” are not, from a lore standpoint, what most games see them as. They are simply beasts that have evolved into these forms. Or humans that have. So they are just like normal zombies or humans, just that have gained some attributes and such. So with that known, it is safe to assume that the Spider and the Butcher are just one of many Spiders and Butchers. Now, for a story sake we need to give these “boss” titles and names to match. But really they are just a beast like all the others. Since they are one of many, we can assume this is happening all over Louisiana, or maybe a select area that we have secluded, something like that. But what this map that we have seen is just like California in the gold rush. It is there for any bounty hunters to come to to kill, steal, rape, and pillage. Okay maybe not those last two... but you get the idea. They come to hunt these monsters and leave.
Now, I do not know where they come from. But I do not believe they come directly from hell or from a portal or something. It is a plague, a disease, so it infects the living. Theres nothing really supernatural about that. It mutates and evolves whatever it touches into a being more instinctual. So, I do believe that as bounty hunters we truly are cutting the plagued areas down and sectioning it off little by little (hence match by match we grow stronger) but in order to make it a game there is not a finite number of matches or territory being covered. Same reason why it is only one map. That single map represents the whole of the infected area in Louisiana. Maybe we will see more of it, maybe other places. Not entirely sure yet.

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Okay I think that answers most everything...

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REMEMBER! Mostly speculation, I do not know the full answers as I do not work for Crytek but I believe a lot of what I think is logical enough to be a sound answer.

remote igloo
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We also know it is insect based mutations

timid pollen
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Yes

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Precisely

remote igloo
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Whether that is unique to this specific location or not iisn't known

timid pollen
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And mental instability*

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But thats if you believe the Butcher is Dr. Reed

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They could be different plagues all together

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And still, it is my opinion that the plague is not entirely known to the public. That the whole situation and hunting demons and the like is held under wraps.

dusk flax
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Ah, I hadn’t realized that its all insect based

timid pollen
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Not all

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Just most of the evolution stuff

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I do not believe it all is

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But a good majority

inland anvil
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As far as I recall it is in fact all insect based

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They aren't your regular zombies as Well

timid pollen
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The butcher included?

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No i knew that

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But what about the butcher, and Dr. Rerd

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WAIT

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MOTHS

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you might be right

inland anvil
#

Dr reed had the moths coming out of him in the end

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But the butcher is difficult you are right

timid pollen
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Yea

inland anvil
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To little info about him

dusk flax
#

So an insect borne plague

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Of sorts

inland anvil
#

One would have to investigate every piece of video material from the butcher

timid pollen
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Thats why i think this is kinda like the 7 plagues or whatever that saying is

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Is there much?

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Ill do it xD

inland anvil
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He only was in 1 gameplay video

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Iirc

fading plume
#

that would make for an interesting game as a whole. the 7 plagues in modern times/late 1800s america

inland anvil
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When i had the chance to talk to one of the lore devs he said something along the lines that everything started through the insect disease

remote igloo
#

I have a feeling that tihs has been happening a little longer than recent thogh

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Maybe thats just the first phase?

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Insect at first

dusk flax
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Can’t wait for the “Frogs” DLC

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I’m fine without the “Lice” update

remote igloo
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I want water to blood 😃

dusk flax
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That one should be easy lol

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Fiery hail will suck.

inland anvil
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Yea right cow that's what I recall aswell

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It happened through the centuries over and over

timid pollen
#

YOU TALKED TO A STORY DEV?!

inland anvil
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He was in this discord very early on

timid pollen
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Fuck x.x

inland anvil
#

Like October to November

timid pollen
#

I want to pick his brain

remote igloo
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Ewww

timid pollen
#

Yea but it easily could just be a continuance throughout the centuries, as the HA has existed for a very long time

remote igloo
#

Leave his brain alon 😛

timid pollen
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NEVER!

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I MUS KNOW ITS ANATOMY

remote igloo
#

I feel like the HA is sort of like the Watchers in the buffyverse

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And hunters are the foot soldiers like Buffy is

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Only without the whole 'One' thing

timid pollen
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Oh xD not sure

inland anvil
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Bran if you need a task scroll up to the very beginnings here and at #350201608296202251 , fasih (the story dev) gave some lore hints every now and then

timid pollen
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Really?

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Done

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Imma work on that tonight

inland anvil
#

But he liked to talk very very cryptic 😏

magic pebble
#

the very beginning????

inland anvil
#

The very very beginning

magic pebble
#

thats gonna take so long to get to lol

timid pollen
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Imma do it

inland anvil
#

Yup

timid pollen
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And i like cryptic x)

magic pebble
timid pollen
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Im guessing he wrote the stuff on the site

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Both

inland anvil
#

He was most active in hunting grounds I remember

timid pollen
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Okay good to know

inland anvil
#

But he also loved to post metal so you will stumble upon that aswell

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I miss him :c

timid pollen
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Oh xD

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Whyd he leave?

magic pebble
#

bran can you take some screen shots of the stuff for me?

inland anvil
#

Dunno

timid pollen
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Absolutely

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Ill need references

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And dang...

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Can we petition to get him back on here?

magic pebble
#

second taht

inland anvil
#

Well iceman said something about switching devs on discord to get a little bit out of everyone

timid pollen
#

Ohhhh i see

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Thats why theres the tech and video editor

inland anvil
#

I guess so ☺

timid pollen
#

Dang xD

timid pollen
#

Here is what I found

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Sorry for spam, but it is all relative

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Now I need to go through this channel and then #game-questions because Karen talked to a dev there about stuff and I want to read that

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And then

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if i have the balls

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I want to message Fasih xD

magic pebble
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"this case" "other stories from other times" !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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so we were right, this isnt the only place this has broken out in @timid pollen !!! (plays song: "its a wholllleee neeeeewww wooorrrllld"

timid pollen
#

Precisely!!

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I noticed that too 😉

timid pollen
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That was my favorite part of it and it fits into my theory 100%

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doesnt add a whole lot of validity, but yes 😃

magic pebble
#

PUMPED!!

neon delta
#

@timid pollen I couldn't find your theory. Maybe I'm just blind. Could you explain it to me? cause it sounds interesting.

magic pebble
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@queen sparrow mind if ask a question about the game that has to do with the lore?

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or anyone that has extensive knowledge over the game, how much did they change from crytek Austin's original vision for the game?

neon delta
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Seemingly a very large amount. The game wasnt a match based multiplayer game

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Unless I'm baddly mistaken, there was no news about any multiplayer until Showdown was shown.

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The original Hunt didn't have this kind of transparency and community focus before it was replaced with showdown, so I don't think anyone can really answer your question except for a team member.

remote igloo
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The original was a 4 player 3rd person coop shooter with a 'similiar' theme. On one of the streams they talked about it and more or less built this game from the ground up

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So my guess is not much aside from maybe lore/tone?

neon delta
#

You mean not much has changed or not much is the same?

remote igloo
#

Not much is the same

neon delta
#

They didn't talk about the lore back then did they?

ebon swan
#

There were some brief comments during the 2014 E3 gameplay.

timid pollen
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Which part of my theory? @neon delta

ebon swan
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I think it's cause you said "That was my favorite part of it and it fits into my theory 100%" but, like, didn't explain that

timid pollen
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Oh yea xD

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My theory is in my head, not put down anywhere:P

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I have stated some, and mostly what I just posted not too long ago, but I am slowly accumulating evidence and the like to support others claims as well as my own

neon delta
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In other words, it's just a theory..... AGAMTHERRY

distant hearth
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Thanks for watching!

magic pebble
#

@neon delta lol I watch that guy

timid pollen
#

It is theory

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But I feel it holds some weight xD

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Also have made some neat discoveries today...

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Very neat discoveries

heavy pawn
magic pebble
#

what?

heavy pawn
#

What I say when I get the Doulch

magic pebble
#

i tried to translate it and nothing comes up lol

heavy pawn
#

It's b**** F***

magic pebble
#

oh hahahah i see

dawn storm
#

It's Cyka blyat aktually

heavy pawn
#

You're right lol

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Old memes though

unique frost
#

Woah~!

#

Someone screen capped my old convos~! ❤

heavy pawn
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Prob for good reason

unique frost
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Maybe they're useful...or not c:

magic pebble
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what were your convos? the ones bran capped?

unique frost
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old ones.

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Nice to meet you btw~! ❤

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hhhmmm

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old enough that my convo was probably the first mentions within this text channel

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but he didnt screen cap those

timid pollen
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Oh i did

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I got ALOT more than just those xD

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I got in trouble for posting all those pics tho .-.

rotund ferry
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@unique frost you're not dead!! 😄

timid pollen
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And nice to meet you! @unique frost Thank you for all your work deciphering and the like! It has helped a lot:)

unique frost
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@rotund ferry College has been crazy

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I'm graduating next semester so it's been really hectic.

timid pollen
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Oh thats crazy!

elfin laurel
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Good luck!! @unique frost

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hope your exams go well

unique frost
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Thank you @elfin laurel ❤

wide bolt
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Why i cant play whit my friends?

frail kite
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@wide bolt The feature is disabled in the stress tests, will be enabled in the closed alpha

rotund ferry
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why dind't i have the alfa 😢

heavy pawn
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Alpha not open yet @rotund ferry

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31st of this month

magic pebble
heavy pawn
vivid frigate
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What time period does the game take place in? Looks late 1800's.

magic pebble
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18090

random lava
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yes 1800's

magic pebble
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1890

remote igloo
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1895

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So noi .600 Nitro 😦

random lava
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no auto rifle either officially

split zodiac
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Finding it hard to get a game have to go solo...

heavy pawn
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Yeah, I would if I were you

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Get a feel for strats

split zodiac
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I find if you rush you get killed easy but you find clues quicker

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Only racing to get those extra xp points and cash better slowly creep around and try get lucky. I the graphics and load out system as well as perks is very kool feature. I have enjoyed the three games of getting recked. I have hope to play more later on.

random lava
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^ save that talk for the stresstest thread

hybrid cedar
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hi

rotund ferry
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I think the game would be more interesting if their was some sort of town where a lobby of about 20 players could be in where their is voice chat, and NPC's with the bounties instead of just a menu. what do you guys think?

random lava
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i like how they implemented the menu with all the stats, but yeah i agree with something like that, would be cool, definitely an idea for the future

frail kite
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I don't think I first want to load into a lobby and then again load into a map : )

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not as efficient.

random lava
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it wouldnt be loading into a lobby, itll be the main screen thing instead of the menu you have now

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where you can buy your things from the store and get your bounties from an npc and stuff

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recruit your hunters there

shrewd idol
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@alpine jasper ban this man please

alpine jasper
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ahaha

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hey it's dino

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yes I have

crisp hare
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Thank you

remote igloo
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Wasn't there a fan made one of these that had edited graphics on it?

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Like smoke from the gun and blood on the grunt?

mellow jetty
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It was, you can find it inside Fanart I think

heavy pawn
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Confirmed the Dr. Reed isn't the Butcher, it is in fact Rehab

elfin laurel
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Also try it on the steam forusm

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*forums

exotic gull
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ok, sorry

wide bolt
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Hey the servers has ready?

broken tree
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@wide bolt the servers aren't rdy yet, u have to wait until the 31st for the closed alpha

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and u also need a bit luck for a closed alpha invite 😃

heavy pawn
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@broken tree Sadly it's random pot and you will have to just hope you get one

broken tree
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I know ;D

fading plume
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I know the names of the bounties themselves are bounty tokens, but what exactly are the tokens?

remote igloo
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My guess would be some sort of 'part' of the creature to confirm the kill

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Like an organ or physical limb

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Or it could just be some sort of demonic residue/essence

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Which would say why you can't carry 2

fading plume
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that's what I was thinking

remote igloo
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Because it would be too much for you to handle

fading plume
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probably a piece of hell itself

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I doubt its the flesh since the storm doesn't follow the flesh, but when you banish it, a storm forms

remote igloo
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We know that things are more mutations than creatures from hell

fading plume
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so like, when you have that open piece of hell itself, that's what the lightning is when you carry it

remote igloo
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So a piece of hell doesn't make that much sense, but having some sort of residual 'magic' could

fading plume
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yeye

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just trnya relate how the banish storm and the bounty carrier lightning could be similar

remote igloo
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Maybe once the creature is dead you burn away some sort of physical component and the lightning strikes are just reactons to it

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Because the banishing turns it into a lump of ash, or something it seems

fading plume
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could be related *

remote igloo
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Yup

sacred void
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@fading plume If the bounty is lets say the spiders heart which is filled with hellish stuff inside we can say that the lightning is to remove the carcass of the spider (the barrier of the heart) and then the lightings are just striking the heart trying to destroy it

timid pollen
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Are we sure that these things are actually from hell?

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Because I am not so sure

wide granite
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You banish it somewhere thats for sure xD

fading plume
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what would you suggest @timid pollen ?

timid pollen
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My thought is entirely earthly, free from supernatural entities. This is all a plague, is it not? And what does one do to those killed by a plague?

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Anyone?

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Noone?

ebon swan
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Burn them?

timid pollen
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Yes:D

ebon swan
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You can thank bloodborne for that wisdom.

fading plume
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then what about the storms and dark vision?

sacred void
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@timid pollen Have you seen a plague making you a walking zombie?

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@fading plume this is easy

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you have been poisoned by the plague too but you are resistand to it

timid pollen
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I honestly believe that all of these flames and burning of the beasties and the like is because thats what you do with a plague... now, I do believe that the Hunters think they are fighting hell and banishing them to hell and thats why I believe they think they see the darksight

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Now...

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That is just a theory and I kinda possibly do believe they see the dark sight xD

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But I also think these people are criminals and the mentally insane, sooooo

rotund ferry
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Maybe the hunters are just drunk af on moonshine and when they think they are killing monsters and such, they are actually killing ordinary farmers and dogs.

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The moonshine also gives the dark vision

ebon swan
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So it's more of a matter of perception for you Bran. Again i could make a connection to Bloodborne's insight mechanic. The hunters have insight into the monsters and their hellish nature because of the dark sight ritual they underwent.

rotund ferry
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Hmm.. Maybe the moonshine has something more to it, maybe some ingredient added by local cajun tribes or perhaps even indians?

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Methanol also has some tricky side effects so.. anythings possible, I might have to think deeper into this.

timid pollen
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I do believe it is about perception. But that provides basis for both sides of the argument.

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I could say that they simply believe in these things and that what they are doing is actually banishing them to hell because that is what they were taught to do and brainwashed into believing these aspects.

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Or I could also say i think they believe this and they have these powers so they understand things a certain way yet all they are really doing is keeping this plague at bay

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Either or, they are fighting a plague and keeping it from the public.

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@sacred void I have not, but that is the point. We are not supposed to know about it 😃 It is an evolutionary step the Hunters have kept from us to this day because it is their sworn duty to protect us from it and keep its secrets hidden.

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All in all, I believe these Hunters are doing what they think they are doing because it is what they believe, and belief has power. All of these people coming to this voodoo infested Louisiana with a bunch of bounty hunters of living horror stories, these stories will spread and grow out of proportion. How can we trust our own Hunters eyes and mind when he is surrounded by these stories in the middle of the bayou on a daily basis? It causes a lot of bias that I think exists in the game. But will we know for sure? Not until the game or devs tell us:) and even then, who knows

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Is anyone here familiar with eugenics?

heavy pawn
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Too long Did not read.

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Lol, good job @timid pollen

stuck jolt
safe nimbus
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looks like you watch black mirror @timid pollen

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😄

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if you are trying to say its all in their head and they are hallucinating I dont believe thats the case

timid pollen
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I do o.o

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How can you tell?

safe nimbus
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would be wayy to predictable

timid pollen
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Well now heres the thing

safe nimbus
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especuially after that black mirror ep

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especially*

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the recording one

timid pollen
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I have a theory they are all patients of the asylum

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(And this is one of my many theories, and yes this is all speculation and i dont 100% agree with it xD

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The Entire History of You?

safe nimbus
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nah thats alright, just seems to predictable

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and yeah that ep

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cause it would literally be a carbon copy of that ep

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wait no, i think i mean the prisoner ep

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the game show

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white bear

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thats the ep

timid pollen
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Ohhhh 15 Million Merits?

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Ohhh yeeeaaa

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I like that one:)

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And no i dont think ts that simple youre right

safe nimbus
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but it would have been a nice concept if black mirror hadnt done it

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keen to get more of this lore when we finally get to play

timid pollen
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I do believe, however, the Hunters come to asylums and jails as cover so they can hunt when they like without public knowledge

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Agreed!

tough estuary
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Where do I get started with lore?

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the wiki?

wide granite
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Hunt Showdown's website

timid pollen
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^

digital python
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Has anyone begun cracking the writing/language on the website?

safe nimbus
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where abouts?

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the desk or?

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everything seems written mostly in english on the desk

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something that seems weird is the whole 'the cards are not real'

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part

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the random language seems a bit like gaelic but parts of it ive never seen before

digital python
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That one. Sorry was putting doggo out

safe nimbus
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ive never seen em

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in gaelic at least

timid pollen
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Ifffff you head to the Reddit you will find that @unique frost decoded them all. That text is actually Voynich Script, a codex used as a key for a set of symbols. The rest of the language it Haitian Creole and has been translated as well.

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I suggest checking it out!

safe nimbus
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oh hell yeah link psl

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pls

timid pollen
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Alright lemme find it

safe nimbus
timid pollen
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Yes lol

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Just found it myself but yes that is it xD

safe nimbus
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just wish it would have been a little harder than checking the html

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rip

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cause reading the wiki it seems like they havnt decoded the real thing to this day

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learn something new everyday 😄

subtle anchor
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so im actually getting more frames now

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dunno if they patched something

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going from 40-60 ish

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oops

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wrong channel

fading plume
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brush 😂😭 if its voynich we'll never crack it

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unless crytek cracked it before anybody else

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bruh*

timid pollen
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Voynich script as a codex, not the literal translation*

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@fading plume

fading plume
timid pollen
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😏👉

mellow moth
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@safe nimbus it's my post on reddit xD

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@timid pollen By the way, I didn't find a grave with a big "X" on it. did you succeed to find it yourself?

safe nimbus
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so pretty much everythings solved or? @mellow moth

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keen on helping if you guys need it

mellow moth
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@safe nimbus I succeed to get almost all letters the way Devs used (in the reddit post you linked, you can find the alphabet). I believe we already found a lot of things devs added on the site but I believe there's more to do :)
Bran Morgan has a theory lore related but I don't know if he succeed to solve it xD

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I currently don't have a lot of time to keep looking for clues on the website (because all my free time is used to actually play the game xD)

safe nimbus
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lucky

timid pollen
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Oh yea that is Zeros, my bad!! And no @mellow moth I did not succeed but I still have some places to look lol... with Alpha today, you know what ill be doing!

random lava
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yeah true

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next bloodline unlock is at lvl 33 but im lvl 39

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thanks crytek Kappa

brave ibex
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Its fine 😄

warped saddle
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I want to play closed alpha ;-;

heavy pawn
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Sorry, you didn't get a key

timid pollen
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Why does everyone post that here?

warped saddle
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because we're all sad ;-;

timid pollen
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But this is lore... not sad town ;-;

warped saddle
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Well now it’s sad lore ;-;

frigid latch
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your just like the twisted amalgimations that you find on the hunt sad and very dangerus

fading plume
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does anybody remember anything relating to the Simonites ?

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i faintly remember the game / devs / website referencing something like that, maybe with a picture involved

timid pollen
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Check out @rotund ferry’s lore video. He goes into that a little. @fading plume

keen wharf
#

I will be disappointed if we do not have a quad barrel break action shotgun by release off this game. Would be a missed opportunity!

wide edge
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loe the idea of battle roayle with objectives

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anyone got links to lore

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?

mellow moth
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@wide edge https://www.huntshowdown.com/game You have a lot of info and hidden things to discover on here

wide edge
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ah you again zero 😄 thank

mellow moth
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Also be sure to check the #lore-discussion channel you could find good things on it back scrolling up

wide edge
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got it

sand dew
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I like the game very much but I have to join the alphabet to play it if you can send me the serial code and if you can not send me much credit, thank you for making such a game. thanks google translate

gloomy skiff
#

How long will closed beta test? From 31 jan to ???

hoary totem
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@gloomy skiff a) we are in closed alpha and b) no date set

gloomy skiff
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Hey guys, how can i have one key if i content maker, Want to make Review on this game on My YT Channel

raven spire
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@gloomy skiff you'll have to wait till the next wave if you haven't received one yet

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This channel is also for lore discussion @hallow forge and @gloomy skiff please use the appropriate channels for your complaints.

wispy ferry
#

So is this gonna be some eldritch horror stuff or like religious horror

vestal hound
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or spoopy horror 😮

winged wasp
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Honestly I’m just thinking it’s gonna be some pretty classic “secret place, evil stuff, mysterious origins, group of people who hunt the big boys so the monsters can’t spill out into the rest of the world” type of meme.

potent latch
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how about some 1800s constantine?! 😄

abstract dew
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oh boy I wish I had me one of those keys

timid pollen
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@winged wasp yes, but no

tidal elbow
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What is the lore

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Or is this a discussion on any lore

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If it's that I'm so down to talk but if it's crytek lore I'll have to learn more

mellow moth
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it's a channel on Hunt : showdown lore

tidal elbow
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Or maybe it's this game only lore in witch I don't know anything

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O ok thanks @mellow moth

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So what is the lore

mellow moth
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You have a lot of infos on the official website

tidal elbow
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Ok so don't learn it hear or you don't feel like talking About it

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Got it

mellow moth
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I don't have really a lot of time to tell you all I know about hunt showdown lore 😄 sorry

night girder
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The Huntshowdown website has all of the info about the game and lore listed there 😃

mellow moth
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but I can give you a link of what secrets I found on the website

round night
#

it would be cool if it was like Destiny's (1) grimoire cards

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for the weapons

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and idk what else

tidal elbow
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@mellow moth yes plz

round night
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like a story behind it

night girder
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This game is set in the past

mellow moth
night girder
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not in the future

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would be weard

tidal elbow
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Thanks all

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I'ma go look around some more

round night
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bounty hunter stories and weapons

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like billy the kid

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idk what im saying

night girder
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Good luck 😃

dusky wyvern
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Anyone got key? havent got any yet x)

night girder
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@dusky wyvern Hey man dont ask for keys please 😛 keys are send in waves and you might not get one Just hold on tight and wait for the wave where you get a key

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not everyone is going to get a key thio

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i wish you good luck

dusky wyvern
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I dont asked for key btw :p

night girder
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So you are asking if there are peaple who have a key ? sound like a weard question but whatever xD sorry for misunderstanding

dusky wyvern
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I asked if anyone got key yet, if anyone here were lucky to get one x)

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i see websited that sell over 100 keys, i dont understand how they got that many

night girder
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Email bot's :/

dusky wyvern
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😦

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i bet they are the one that gets the key x) not anyone else haha

woven hornet
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Either way this is the wrong channel for key discussion 😦

manic oracle
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Is this where you get keys

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blyat

mellow moth
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Keys are not on this channel... but in you heart

rotund ferry
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@manic oracle Better not ask for Keys here, your chance will not increase for a key then. Just register on the Signup Page and wait for the Waves 😃

runic urchin
mighty mist
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thanks god discord got a function to delete comment LUL

tawny juniper
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😃

modest fjord
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Is there an in universe reason why the hunters kill each other?

vagrant light
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For money?

broken tree
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@modest fjord all of them want the bounty and it seems that is not less and it also seems like they would do everything to get that even killing another hunter

tawny juniper
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@modest fjord They want that Bounty Hunters Bounty So they can get money and more renown for themselves and be the Greatest Hunter Alive so that They can Be The One Known For Restoring Peace into this lil Part of their Louisiana Swamp

broken tree
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restoring peace with killing each other? im not sure about that

modest fjord
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Probably preferable to the demons leaving the swamp and killing people

tawny juniper
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@broken tree Time only Remembers those Who Wrote it

broken tree
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haha

tawny juniper
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lol

timid pollen
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@modest fjord It is the same reason people killed each other during the California Gold Rush. No other reason than sliming the competition for the prize.

remote igloo
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Cow theory - I think that counties are demonic residue after banishing the bounty target. This is then used in some sort of ritual. If the Hunters are truly damned, perhaps the 'bounties' earned can restore their humanity or prevent them from being damned. This is why they are willing to kill opthers in order to save their own souls.

vivid frigate
#

After watching The Patriot (specifically the scene after he fires a couple shots from separate guns and then goes into hand to hand combat after avenging one of his sons)it made me think of how I'd love to see close combat reload times (i.e. Shotguns) increased and melee combat more prevalent. Counter attacks, parrying. Blocking/parrying causing targets to get stunned in SOS is a cool mechanic I'd like to see added in the future. Just a thought. Emote this if you agree and I'll post on the forum. P.S. I know the revelutionary war is probably 140+ years after Hunts estimated timeline. Just wanted to express my thoughts on adding a more intimate melee combat system.

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140- *

eternal valve
#

Does anyone now the exact century of the game?

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or year?

exotic anvil
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1890s-1900s it seems judging by the equipment and dress

teal wharf
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1895

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is the exact year

safe flame
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not sure if the 17 shot revolver is historically accurate 😛

hasty basin
#

As if all the demons and zombies are historically accurate.

timid pollen
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@safe flame Most of the weapons are variations or modded versions of weapons back then that could have existed due to available tech. The AHA was always at the forefront of technology.

lofty parrot
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Is there like, a place for collected examples of lore already? Or is this all just theories/"in the works" stuff?

rotund ferry
#

somebody got a alpha key for me please i would like to play this game... waiting for this game already 1 year.... 😦 😦 😦 😦

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Patience

rotund ferry
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@rotund ferry yes i think you are right... i hope that i can at least have 1 key because this would be the first time i can play a closed alpha before that the game is released...

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anyway... everybody they have website's where you can buy the alpha key but dont do it this is scam

dawn hornet
#

I would like a key, how do I get it?

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I registered my email a long time ago and I did not win.

random lava
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by being pateint and hoping you get one in the coming waves

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not by asking about it in the wrong thread

dawn hornet
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sorry

random lava
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no worries

dense spade
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🔑

crisp hare
heavy pawn
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Noice

lofty parrot
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Getting a little snippet

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Just the tip

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Noice

marsh tulip
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secret society that hunts monsters, so is the map just a single small town incident and everywhere else in world its fine?

tender quail
#

Was the spider once a man that mutated/transformed into that?

fading plume
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yea I think the bosses were at one point like normal zombies but the plague/demonic host took over that particular one

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@tender quail

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and @marsh tulip
the current map is in Louisiana but I think the next map will be set somewhere else in America. imo I bet somewhere like in the Rockies or Appalachia based on some concept art.

marsh tulip
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yea it just feels out of place the secret society stuff, like if its full blown zombie/demon invasion of earth then why would you hide that you have people fighting against it?

fading plume
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I think its mostly small town incidents

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im not sure if its secret to like the feds, but if it isnt, I guess the reason why they dont send in the army or something is because it could be easier to send a small task force type thing, The American Hunters Association, and have them clean up the boss which will let the smaller undead wither out and die

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That's my thoughts btw

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but it is probably global or has been global at one point, hence the American Hunters Association

lofty parrot
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IMO with how the clues look

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it looks to me like someone in the town was dabbling with dark forces, got possessed by something and that something let some smaller little demon fellas out

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they all start posessing the towns people and animals, further temping more demon fellas to pop outta hell

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When the big bad (butcher/spider) is banished and the tokens removed (possibly the thing that draws the demonic creatures?) it starves/deprives the smaller demons of needed energies/leadership, so they all begin to decay.

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That's just my take on it, however. 😉

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As for the army/feds? IMO it'd make a lot of sense if this secrety society of hunters were a specialized unit of some kind, or at least have some form of political pull.

marsh tulip
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we;; it could make sence that they are branch of military/feds as they are kinda getting the best tech guns of the time

lofty parrot
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Yeah.

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I think the best way in that scenario to explain the hunters killing each other would be the temptation of greater power.

bitter tiger
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Its a semi post apocalyptic world. Also the wild west was a land of get even by any means necessary. Alot of people wanted to get rich quick and with no one around to put them in jail (since everyones a zombie) the temptation is never greater

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As for who the hunters are they could very well be just hired guns or outlaws who are given the chance of a clean slate if they assist. Of course the government expects them to not survive and maybe other hunters have sneaked into the town as well looting and pillaging what remains

shell raptor
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Dont know if this has been mentioned/thought of earlier, but could it be possible that when you die,
you ACTUALLY go to hell like a ¨bonus-level¨ of sorts? Where you might have to do certain things to retribute or perform certain tasks
Im basing it off the screenshot posted earlier, which said ¨Winner takes all. Fail, and go straight to hell.¨

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idk

bitter tiger
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thats easy if you die you die

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thats where the perma-death takes its hold

shell raptor
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well yeah, but im speculating. Maybe not the thread for it, lol

bitter tiger
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AFAIK if you die thatss it you just die. now maybe there is a doctor that brings your survivor back to life and you find him later on but if not theyre gone forever

shell raptor
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yeah i guess

bitter tiger
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this thread is more of "why are we here?" "Who were these people?" "whats the prize?"

shell raptor
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Aight

timid pollen
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@bitter tiger This is in no way post apocalyptic. On the contrary, it is in our own time line of existence.

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@fading plume I am pretty sure the bosses are mutated humans. This whole plague is all an evolution on the human condition.

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Also, this could be small town incidents, but its not limited to there. All of these events “happened” in our world, its just we never heard about them because they were kept seceret.

scenic girder
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it's just random cowboys on blue mushrooms shooting hillbillies somewhere in the US countryside, after injecting too much random shrooms in their veins they started seeing everything post apocalyptic and hunting imaginary beasts

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employ me as loremaster dev

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.

lofty parrot
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I support hiring Daminionz as a narrative designer.

timid pollen
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And I do not believe they are a part of the government but it could be likely that the government knows about them because the AHA always has the newest most innovative weapons of the time.

lofty parrot
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Secret Service sorta deal makes sense to me, IMO.

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Like, Idk, a Bureau of Human decency or some shit. Huntin' down tidepod eaters.

scenic girder
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yeah injecting tidepods , seems more realistic

lofty parrot
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Hell, it might not even be something posessing the townsfolk, it could be the mutations occur due to the lack of a soul.

timid pollen
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@lofty parrot I do have a theory on the dabbling in dark forces. However that is a small stretch depending on lore sources. But the zombies and the big bosses are just more unique evolutions of these different strains of plague.

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It is a plague

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And the hunters give a part of their humanity to become immune to it and be able to see things

lofty parrot
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A plague seems a bit odd, given the whole... Banishment stuff.

timid pollen
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But what extent that is idk

lofty parrot
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But it does make sense with all the dead pigs and shit you come across.

timid pollen
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Not really. Banishment is getting rod of something. You get rid of a plague. But the plague came from hell, from Beelzebub

lofty parrot
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Everything looks very dirty.

timid pollen
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Because its been that way for a while

lofty parrot
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Yeah, pretty much.

timid pollen
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And the Hunters are not necessarily just hired guns. They arent hired to come to Louisiana. They come because there is a profit and duty for them here.