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it sounds very reasonble
@low ice well played you just sparked my lore addict
thats not gonna end anytime soon
oh dear
π
@unique frost got some brighted up photos
something cought my mind
you can almost see "spores" coming out of the body
it may be just flys but they are too dense
@low ice just for me not to go bash my head in the wrong direction or those flies* in the first pic?
most suspicious π€
Could have been burned intensely, turning into ash as the wind takes a hold of it
Dont think its flys, to organized and too many
@hushed zinc spores arenb't too far off! β€
@old kite remember that lord of the flies and beelzebub and referenced regularly
Demonic flies could be organized and plentiful
β€
which...is horrific to think about
True
@hushed zinc Excellent work! β€
I like the eerie feeling these brightened up photos give! β€
But the bodies are blackened, bodies being burned and ashed could be possibilities
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well, hell references and demon insects possessing folks into things is what we have right now
The spider turned into a molten ashy mess when the hunters banished it
hhhmmm
Didnt think of that, interesting
thanks π @unique frost
well to think of that
im still bugged (you got the pun :P) by those cicadas
no one will make a single photo of a cicada
if it wouldnt make any hint to somtinhg
weve settled on that cicadas states for immortality and infinite power?
if so
im staying in my thought that this game wasnt some hell decided to come to us just for shit and giggles
i think some OPENED a door
and somtihng knocked back
and that is what were in right now
i think that the cause to all of this
is purely human
someone did somthing, learned somthing
something he shouldnt have
and that created or opened or did somtihng to cause hell on earth
another think regardign the first picture
on the right side
there are still water canteens, plates
like someone jumped on them , on the hunters perhaps?
maybe not someone, maybe, somthing?
- a giant roar sounds in the background *
lol
but yea im weirded out why they would just leave all the things there
deffinetly a surprise
In a way, kinda sounds like doom. Someone opens a door to somewhere that you cant imagine
Hmm, considering the era and the technology at hand...I would follow with the idea of hell opening up
"In Hunt, Louisiana in 1895 is a dead zone, populated with horrific creatures that have crept through the cracks between worlds, or so one theory goes."
Because yeah, the giant insects are remniscent of revelations but am i correct in thinking that its only in Louisiana that this is happening?
i get where your going @thorn zephyr but there is a story that changes my mind each time
the story about the doctor
its like he know WAY more then any other
Since it said that hunters from across country travel to Louisiana for this
Oops I havent read about the doctor yet..found this game day before yesterday, rofl
But you could be right
Lemme look it up
kk
Couls be a reoccuring thing
maybe
This incident might have been more deadly then last ones
Ye it sounded like they were mentioning time travel rather loosely earlier in discord
so glad were finalyl having an active lore chat π
Lore brings the player back for more imo
"The Association has existed in various forms for many hundreds of years, yet its legacy is silence"
Its the glue that holds everything in place
ye sounds like this is a reoccuring event
Definetly
^
ok but if its not alwayse on louisiana
This was awhile ago
what caused it to be chosen
i highly doubt the devs would just go to google maps and pick a random city
there must be a reason for each city
lol
Look at the outlast game, maybe we would enter an asylum
CQC hunting, not knowing whats behind each door
Psycho made a portal to the other world, we are then called in for the bounty
Devs are taking notes right now
"You pass through the house, once built for comfort. You're wary of the doors, now vicious chokepoints."
β€
If the game doesnt work out, they could probs write some novels instead π
It'd be creepy to have to go through a asylum grounds
"Walking down the hallway, rain pounding on the glass. You walk past a door and hear the stretching of rope. You know its the noise of a noose holding a mans neck"
o.o
"The infection is potent. Odd. I began an autopsy yet the corpseβbut two hours deadβcontained only moths. Living moths and no organs."
"You hear the screeching of a man far down the darkened hallway, you see you're partner tense up. You both continue down the forsaken grounds that hold men who were already of evil spirits."
one clarification about the time travel discussion
Hunt's setting has no time travel
this is a narrative rule we have
Good ^-^
not magic, not technology
nothing will let you travel in time
causality will never be broken
if we can help
Different locations though is a good maybe? @low ice
certainly possible
rofl
I feel like time travel is an overrated concept, but i would be interested to see if there is anything related to events that have occurred in past, similar to this one
personally I dislike its random use
time travel has massive effect on causality
which is what a dramatic story is all about
actions... consequences
a time travel story MUST BE about time travel
it's a huge topic
a lot of writers use it as a convenient deus ex machina
but once you do that you open a massive can of worms
which might invalidate your entire plot structure
to be clear I'm not AGAINST time travel stories
it's just that Hunt isn't one
that being said...
Hunt is a huge setting...
As it shouldnt be
TELL US THE STORY GAHHHH @low ice xD
different things were taking place in different locations at different points in history
so
damm cicadas
Gotcha
we CAN in theory visit a story taking place earlier than 1895 in, I dunno, Asia
who knows
Asia? That'd be interesting
The best ones are obviously!
Makes sense
I already was kinda picturing that already. Different hunts taking place at different points in time and locations. Ripple effect of lore
not too far off
our intention is to present this as an anthology of monster hunting stories
if we can do that
Interested to see how it goes
however there IS an overarching plot too
I just threw my wallet at the screen but nothing happened
Are you guys planning using true occult figures or creating your own
so this is NOT a story telling game after all
which is good and bad
for lore
we intend to present a complex story in bits and pieces
We in fill in the rest
and truth and reality is one of our pillars
whenever we can we pull events and people from actual history
and monsters from existing folk tales
Like baron samadi? Maybe
we will try to steer clear of the usual suspects
so I don't think you'll get your dracula any time soon π
but if we ever do vampires for instance we will do it differently
in a pre-Bram Stoker way probably
not saying we'll do vampires
but you get the point
I love it, sounds amazing
thanks... hopefully we won't disappoint you
Aslong as I continue getting the hairs to stand up on my neck everytimd I start a new hunt.
In a week or two Im moving, getting a massive downgrade to internet due to limited options....so no more online games for me. Its painful finding a super promising game without internet, aha
The only thing that can disappoint me is the game not releasing
hehe ^ or that
Sad to hear panda
Love that the devs are so involved in conversation topics, and willing to discuss ideas, its really great
Its refreshing
indeed
refreshing...
Artist: Annihilator Track: 1 of 11 Album: Refresh the Demon Year: 1996 Location: Ottawa, Ontario/Vancouver, British Columbia (Canada) If you love the music, ...
sorry some words just trigger me
Understood, happens to me too
Ah, so, the pictures we were discussing this morning were having moths fly out of the bodies. I just reread the doctor Reed quotes, one of them already quoted earlier about the organs being replaced by moths.
Just so y'all don't have to scroll all the way up https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/350220022196469768/372687224673796106/Hunt-Wallpaper-1-2560x1440.jpg
If you click on the picture and then click original at the bottom right, it gives a better detailed image
Maybe that's how the "Demons" possess people, they burrow into their skin and embed themselves in their victims
Did someone @ me?
No
I can't fin the message now
Maybe they deleted it cause idr seeing one here
I guess they did. Strange
There is beliefs that moths are what your soul transfers to after death
Read about it reading about the mothman
Maybe they would congregate around places of heavy supernatural influence
like where the main monster would be hiding for example
Or disasters
I suppose, anywhere with a strong emotional connection
Makes me wonder why the moths always fly toward the light....
Careful now, we might be uncovering some world wide conspiracy here
Ah good movie check it out I'm sure it's on TV this time of year
I would hope so
One of the reasons this is my favorite month of the year
horror marathons
Same love em all
When hunters banish a monster, are they banished to hell or just banished out of this world?
a good question right?
If there is hell then there is usually heaven, so if hunters banish them to hell, would that mean that they are actually servants of god?
Or what is their motivation?
All these burning questions I have.
Would you say that you work a lot with these things and will answer them in some form in the game?
oh yes
all of the questions you just asked
they all have answers
very detailed answers
don't worry
so when you watch the gameplay video.. and hear magnus saying "it's in hell now"
that really means it's in hell... or at least the hunters believe it goes to hell
but me answering ALL the questions now would ruin things
Interesting....!
Will you work with answering these questions through the world-building, some type of codex entries, cutscenes, or how do you think you'll aproach that?
or else we could have called this channel #spoilers right? π
keep an eye on our news and community channels
the website
newsletters
anything @elfin laurel and @queen sparrow do or say
but yeah there will be extensive lore in the game too
we do not have cutscenes
Hehe indeed, I really enjoy when a community gets to figure stuff out by pieceing things together as a game progress, kind of like how people come up with theories for Dark Souls or Bloodborne π
Sometimes leaving some things to the players imagination will yield the best results for certain parts too i believe!
we don't want to interrupt a multiplayer game to tell you a story π
but we do have... other things
rest assured our approach to lore is unusually serious for this kind of game
Cool, I really look forward to it ^_^
hehe, I'll try not to get overhyped either and go in with an open mind π
"at least the hunters believe it goes to hell"
DUN-DUN-DUUUUN
it doesn't necessarily mean it DOESN'T go to hell
You mean to say it is not relevent? Damn, I thought cheese and bacon (two of the best things ever) would have huge relevance on the lore already...I am disappoint @low ice
ok, I'll forgive you this time then
Changelist 20485: Added back bacon to the game
To be fair you can't go on a hunt without having had a real nice breakfast!
They are implementing a thirst/hunger system now as we speak, thanks @elfin laurel
Oh yes! I'd love to eat some spider meat or so π
Really, thats interesting
Only if you show me where in folklore that is a real thing, HA beat that fasih
I'm a genius.
that is one word for it
I meant as in a bacon monster that hunts you through the swamps π€
Even worse: it's vegan π¨
turkey bacon π
people do not eat bacon in Turkey
He meant the animal turkey the one you eat at thanksgiving
Life isn't worth living without bacon
@mortal cradle thanks for putting a stop to that. I don't think I could take any more bacon blasphemy
Not all heroes wear capes... some just would give it all bacon
I mean
the same bird is called India in Turkey
Calcuta in Dutch
France in Ireland
Peru in Portugal
Rome in Saudi Arabia
so I'd say there's CLEARLY some confusion there
@mortal cradle gonna get you a bacon cape π
I'd eat it
True fasih that's bound to bring confusion between cultures
Also lets move this to a different channel so that we can keep this for lore discussions π
und jetzt
promoting two lore videos from DSDude's channel
This is everything we know so far about the lore behind Hunt: Showdown! Super cool game, with great ideas! If this is something you're interested in, then de...
I discuss here the possibility of Dr. Reed being the monster known as the Butcher! Also check out my next stream live at: https://www.twitch.tv/dsdude464. Yo...
Nice
I'm not saying this is ALL correct
but yeah
interesting videos
Here's my speculation on what the American Hunter's Association is! I go a bit into where I believe they started, and few extra tidbits! Stay tuned to my cha...
eXCELLENTE AS ALWAYS DSDUDE
yeah he's good at this thing
Btw @rotund ferry How's the wifey and incoming kiddo? boy or girl? π
I was gonna make a video discussing some shit but wasn't sure about whole NDA and such. Don't wanna get banned before I can olay
NDA?
Idk of there even is one
there's nothing secret
things you know you can use I guess
after all
things you should not know you don't know
π
Can't wait to learn
Oh haha thanks for the promoting!! π¬π¬ and @unique frost it's going I be a girl! And the wife is having a bit of a hard time, but overall is great!!:)
@mortal cradle NDA's only really come into play in a few instances 1. you work for the company. 2. You have been invited to a closed testing phase with a stipulation that you will not communicate, broadcast or stream details of the content or 3. when you visit a gaming company/studio/building. (there are other instances but they are the main ones)
Anything we say here, it's mostly already known or its stuff we are allowed to say publicly, you guys don't have anything like that to worry about cus like Fasih said "things you should not know, you don't know" π
And I haven't gotten in trouble yet haha!
Yeah dsdudes videos are super entertaining to watch! π
I'll be checking them out tonight once I get home from work. Saved the links posted before.
You guys are making me blush lol!!
@rotund ferry just watched them all and subscribed nice work man.
Oh thanks!!
Aye, youβve inspired me to get some Hunt videos out too π»
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well if you have any story related topics you need to cover
you know where I live
:whispers: iβve drafted a short story I was going to post after Iβve got my first video up
hummm
do you think there would be people in the community who would like to contribute to the story?
because
this is not the first time this come sup
Almost certainly
hummm
let me meditate on that a bit
let me put on some meditative music:
https://youtu.be/-MkECybzDg0
Rebellion is an amazing Power Metal band from Germany. They have 4 albums. Michael Seifert: vocals Uwe Lulis: guitar Simone Wenzel: guitar Tomi GΓΆttlich: bas...
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Meditate on that
I approve
and reply with:
https://youtu.be/YaqqsTVuCnI
This video is for entertainment purposes only and all copyright belongs to Ensiferum and Spinefarm Records. Lyrics: We heard that enemies were approaching fr...
Ahhh great music to accompany me during battle
So... how do we have some of hell inside us? You guys mean literally?
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paging @low ice , paging lore Dr @low ice
he ded
Well dig him up!
the janitors got questions!
@low ice I blame you!
Not appearing in the stream! π We saw @elfin laurel β€ AND rICK! THE LEPRECHAUN!
It's not just that... You lost the light.
And about the thing I'll see what can I do. I appriciate your effort.
worst case you send it to me
And then you send it to me?
Or you take one from the office and send it to me and I send cookies to the office π
And I would need a bit of your help later today if you'll have time
π
I know this was a few hours ago but hopefully this gets seen
my question is...
How much does the wider world know about the supernatural happenings? Is it fairly well known or more hush hush?
@low ice
hmmm
alright
there's a short and long answer to this
and a very long answer
but instead I'll teach you a method
what year is it now?
2017
you... would be exactly you in Huntverse
now
do you know anything about any monster attacks in New Orleans back in 1895?
π
Huntverse? New Cisco Ramon?
@vague cloud ... that is EXACTLY how well known it is
Intresting
c:
Well color me intrigued
Indeed.
or red
which ever you prefer
So, all the supernatural happenings are kept under wraps by the hunters association?
not necessarily
well
the American Hunters Association is just one group of people who hunt monsters
Oh, so not every Hunter you hire is from the AHA
oh...
so why does AHA et it's hutners kill each other?
or...is the association not aware of this...
its' a loose association
they don't HAVE to kill each other
let us say there is a limited amount of ... resources
Its like wild west π
yeo
and the rewards span way beyond monetary
potentially
and like rehab said... these are not exactly the best people you could meet
we also never said the hunters in the game know EXACTLY what's happening here
but this new orleans case... we explore the AHA
we WILL mention other groups and orders
but they are not in focus
Ah~! β€
Thank you for being candid with me as always Senpai Dreamkin from Instabul
the n
bullshit might be true though
you will hear yourself yelling that every day
I miss my city π¦
hmm
:C hugs
I will go there soon
How would you call that Hunt song cuz for now there is no official name for it.
Hmm?
That song is so haunting and fun β€
Well how should I name it
let me find out
β€
if she's online
Yay Maqua~!
oh right!
@unique frost
This song was featured in Steam trailer and Extra Life 2017 Crytek's charity stream.
that song β€
Yea
Call it " The Misty Forest " xD
this song is so simple but have something magic
π
Heya. Saw an at. How goes it?
Oh wait. That was approx 100 years ago. Oops.
Still. Hi!
hi
Hey @signal heart
@signal heart HAWTHORNE!
Also hah! Knew it hawthorne is a dev without a dev role! The lurk is real!
It will be here as well don't ya worry
@low ice i thought hawthorne was a she
he, she
Its the AI
you and your sexist indo european languages
She is english so is he
Don't forget
@signal heart is female
"I am but one of AI @Pitch Black Fasih s minions"
Lul
#never forget
I remember that XD
and you'll see me saying he instead of she and vice versa occasionally
#neverforget dreamkin senpai
And I'm not ito indo whatever ... Off to work
Bay
byeeee
Hi guys. As usual quite late to any discussion I am tagged in π
Guess I have to add a tag thingy
hihi
π€
Better late then never Haw
Indeed. β‘
All right my dudes. I translated some of the cajun french on the website
most of it is cryptic writings on what demons pull the strings and descriptions on the monsters
You mean things like: "Darkness lusts for the red water in you. Lord of the fireflies it thirsts."
"Souls are to be to collected. Bodies are to be worn; to be joined."
Well the name Marie Laveau is key
They taught us in Louisian (im from the area the game takes place lmao)
That means Voodoo
That means Catholicism
@unique frost I summon you
So Im gathering is either A: Marie Laveau Hecked up and were fixing it
B: She is the main antagonist
or C: Shes dead
and were talking to her daughter
or something
She was the Queen of New Orleans
She basically called the shots under the table
Louisiana has been a cespool of corruption govt wise for a long time
also at the time game sets place the Cajun French language was still being spoken by more people than now
today its basically a dead language because they never really taught there children
My family spoke it generations ago but I never learned
So basically me and my brother are excited about this game lol
I'm going down Louisiana, get me a mojo hand
I'm going down Louisiana, get me a mojo hand
I'm gonna fix that woman so she can't have no other man.
" Muddy Watter - Got My Mojo Workin"
Also it would be cool if they tied in with the pirates that ruled the basin a long time ago
A good ol' pirate curse would be good
Also rougarou
Pirates could be fun
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/336327104155222017/377678802781732864/unknown.png Also this loosely translated gives a descriptopn of the monster on the far left
yes
Give me a sec
We still don't know what is this for altho the translation is correct.
Hmm
Could be an old cajun proverb
or creole
Bible Verses
The last line is matthew 6:21
All of it is
Matthew 6:22
The eye is the lamp of the body. If your vision is clear, your whole body will be full of light.
Maybe its talking about keeping your head and heart pure on the hunt to deal with the monsters
Riches cant be taken literally here
therefore it might mean spiritual riches i.e. sanity cleanliness from demons etc
Intresting
@gentle fox what were also stumoed with is the letters in the original puzzle
Some letters fade, some letters are bold, some are written higher or lower
@unique frost im in class right now lol so give me a sec to think
yeah this is what is says right
Problem with bible verses is the versions they use
Some are really similar others not so much
Guys I think I got a theroy on the puzzle
So
The six most prominent letters are E V L S N A U O J
I mixed and matched them to get this
Also another fun one
Maybe the email is saying it can only be killed at night
or with a lot of sacrifice through blood
@unique frost
And blood could be considered one of the riches
Blood is very powerful in Voodoo
@gentle fox True~! lots of things you can do with blood using Voodoo.
And apparently to some weird sources blood was used to conjur demons in voodoo
human and farm animals
lots of innocence involved to β€
pure souls, etc.
I hope Marie Laveau isn't an enemy in game.
So maybe the pig man is from one of the sacrifices
I'd love to be best friends with a voodoo queen.
and the email is telling us how to stop it. Stop the blood
hehehehe
the pig man/butcher
if only we were allowed to share the preview photos before
hhhmmm let me ask Maqua actually.
Volbeat Intensifies
My body is ready intensifies
,,,
hm
Marie Laveau
I know who it is.
Just wondering where I ehard her name before...
OH I KNOW!
American Horror Story Coven.
That's where I first heard of Marie Laveau
I wonder if Papa Legba is involved.
how do you get a new bullet in the chamber without cutting yourself?
like I guess if you put your hand inside of it and just push down but thats not very easy
i mean that lever really isnt very easy to pull down less you can get under it
The knife on the stock thats fine, youre probably not going to run into that
but the blade on the lever
thats going to make reloading/pumping reallly hard.
unless this gun isnt actually lever action?
It looks like a lever to me based on the handle .. most guns in the 1800s were lever action as well. But ya it does look a little difficult to reload.. almost cut your hand if your grab it the wrong way
The only way it isn't lever action is if the gun has been modified in such a way that you don't need to use the lever
Which I mean this gun has obviously been modified to have the blade in the first place so that may fit in
But in irl standpoints I'm not sure if you could really modify a lever action in such a way where it was no longer lever action.
If you look at the end of the lever (towards the bigger blade) there looks to be a bolt, this bolt could actually be holding down the lever. Or the bolt is holding the bigger blade. I really can't tell
@queen sparrow you know the mechanics of this weapon?
I don't know the specifics but if you leave it with me I can try and get some kind of an answer tomorrow @rotund ferry
It doesn't look like the blades are on any part you HAVE to touch to reload it. I mean you'd probably have to go through some training to avoid it though.
Well if it's a lever action(which it is definitely unless someone has modified the weapon, I know that because I've used that exact model of gun) to push down that lever you would usually grasp the underneath of the lever and pull down, it would be very hard/uncomfortable just put your hand in and push flat on it, I guess it's possible but when your in a fighting situation, your mind most likey wouldn't remember that and you would grasp it cutting yourself or
Which would be very uneccecaeily dangerous
https://68.media.tumblr.com/868865696f28aa67784b0c67c8cd939d/tumblr_oe72ow3zV81sfm1uco1_500.gif not as dangerous as this
Well one thing that's Hollywood, lol.
But I mean the time period this gun is from, the wear on it, id imagine the lever has some rust and most likely takes some strength to pull it.
Like I know it's possible to manipulate the lever by pushing down from inside.
I mean, unless they take really good care of the gun and just don't clean the shit off of it ;p
Yeah but like if your shellshocked dud
That's a big risk to take just for a bit more blade lol
That would make sense actually. If they just kept the action well maintained, but didn't care about the grim or rust otherwise.
I mean when you hit someone you're most likely not even going to hit that low
You're going to align the bud of the gun with the head. I don't know if you would really ever even get it aligned with the lever
If I owned that and got in the heat of battle I'd totally forget and grab on to it
You could avoid the blade if you have enough hand and arm strength and by the looks of the characters they got it down pat
I think that some crazy hunter just bashed too many things with his rifle before thinkng 'YOu know what would make this easier?..."
That gun is based of the Winchester repeater. I think at least. Have you shot one in real life? The lever is not difficult to pull whatsoever. The gun was specifically made to fire as quickly as you possibly could. On top of that, usually the ammo feed is on the side of the gun rather than underneath.
@rotund ferry The one I used wasnt very hard to pull, but I doubt it was made the exact same way as it did 100+ years ago, when your considering the wear on the gun and the time peroid I really doubt it would be as easy to pull.
Like im just saying theres a pretty high chance of cutting yourself on that thing (and pretty bad too) Why risk that. - why is this part of the blade so neccecary that you are willing to risk cutting yourself on it,
I mean, the whole idea of it is kindda ridiculous, your taking all that to modify your weapon that way when you could just simply attach a bayonette to the front of it
I mean the area of the blade to use it, you have to grab the barrel of the gun and then basically use it as if the stock was a sword and the barrel a handle,
Why take the transition risks, why take the risk of cutting yourself, when you could simply put a large bayonette on the front, ( Or if you want it being more like a cleaver than a blade then why not put the blade on the barrel instead of the stock? then you could use the stock as the handle, you wouldnt have nearly as big of chance of cutting yourself and transitioning from shooting to chopping would be much easier)
maybe its meant as a DMR in a sense that its accurate at distances but can hold its own up close
Is moving the lever with your hand in the loop really that tough? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rlrTLQnLCM
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I can tell about reloading Ak and you need more strength than you think (it's not super heavy cause there is a spring inside) and i think moving whole handle is harder
@fathom quail that is much different than the gun in question.
Again- we're talking about older model of guns, we're talking about beaten up guns, and we're talking about a fight or flight situation.
All of that together Id say that
The lever could be harder to pull - the model of the gun is most likely different from what we have today, which means that in general the lever could be harder to pull, on top of that the wear that we see on most of these guns means that around the lever could be rusted or filled with dirt, this would cause it to stick and again, be harder to pull than normal.
As well lever-action rifles do have some tendency to get jammed(again maybe not true on the newer models of the guns, but definitely was a issue back then) and I'd imagine being able to push the lever at a greater force would help with fixing the jam (could be wrong about that one I am not actually sure. I haven't experienced lever actions enough to really know and I havent done too much research on unjamming a lever action)
Annnd.
WHY, DO YOU NEED A BLADE ON THE STOCK OF THE GUN.
It's a serious question. a bayonet would be much more reliable and much more accessible. (also you basically have a 0% chance of cutting yourself with it or of it getting in your way.)
The cleaver at the end of this gun really just does not make that much sense, its dangerous, its unreliable, and its unnecessary.
Last but not least...
Fight or Flight (or shellshocked, whatever you want to call it.)
So everyone knows what I am talking about, in the heat of battle (especially one that could easily end your own life) you're probably going to freak out a bit, So lets say your running with your weapon, boom boom you start hearing shots, maybe your teammate gets hit, you turn around you grab your gun you pull the trigger as fast as you can and you reach the lever to reload... and BAM- you grab the blade with your bare hand and bleed to death. - obviously this is a video game and this isnt going to be a variable but again they're trying to be realistic right? (WHY TAKE THE RISK)
Wait another point. WHEN WOUNDED EVERYTHING GETS FUZZIER AND HARDER - imagine having a bullet in your leg, you're bleeding profusely, trying to grab that gun and shoot it is going to be harder, even to the point where you may not be able to pull the lever without the extra leverage. (When I say fuzzier, I mean mentally, loosing a bunch of blood makes you light headed and you don't think as clearly)
And as @tropic spoke said; looks easier than it is is a very good way to explain it when talking about reloading weapons.
this debate is very fun for me, hope it overruns #lore-discussion for weeks. π
yeah that blade on stock of this rifle looks kinda risky, but i think they add it to make nicer animation of choping in close-quarter combats or when you have to reload, about how to put ammo in this rifle you have to "open" that barrel on bottom
You think it is? I assumed it was a side loader
Even when it is side loader you need some place to keep ammo
Well the bayonet goes under the last barrel so i still dont think it would have any negitive affect. it'd be pretty easy to get around
well it's up to devs π
but to be honest it's one of games i'm really interested i didnt spend so much time looking for infos about game
when i was waiting for witcher3
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Honestly given how important being quiet is, I'm surprised more guns don't have blades attached to them.
@modest fjord My guess is that they want some choice in powerful guns vs. quieter melee types. I'm kinda glad not everything has 'blades' on them so there is more decision in what to bring
@remote igloo i think that attachments are customizable. could be wrong.
True, but I don't believe every attachment can be for every gun. I also wouldn't want it tbh. I like variety even with customization so that '1 attachment' is always an auto include, for instance.
It should at least make sense.
OTOH shotguns with sniper scopes might be useless anyway
So do whatever. : )
I think the customization system in EFT is pretty good but they're a simulator more than anything and they're overdoing it.
I think in Hunt they're trying to make everything clear and accessible, so my bet is on something like "there are X stocks for rifles and Y stocks for shotguns but you'll never be able to put a {X} stock on shotguns or a {Y} stock on rifles."
Not sure if that makes sense
Hope it gets the point across though.
Actually we saw the shotgun with scope but called nitro express rifle. However we also saw the shell theyβve use for it was the same with shotgun.
It's not a shotgun, it's built for killing elephants and bears and things like that so the cartridge is absurdly large, looking like a shell
oh ! impressive..... don't know people go for killing elephants as such kind of weaponπ£
@rotund ferry I am currently at work, but will address this when I'm home! At least my thoughts on it.
@rotund ferry so starting with the "older model" argument. This weapon appears to be modeled after the Winchester repeated or Henry repeater that's the two big models that were released around this same time period. It was also known as the "Henry Goldenboy", and the "Gun That Won The West". These were very popular and very very effective because they were known to be able to shoot up to 20 rounds a minute depending on the barrel size and user. They were designed to be able to release and replace cartridges as quickly as possible, so the lever was easy to pull.
Next the "beaten up guns" argument. If you ask ANYONE who is big into guns, they will tell you the most important thing about owning and using a gun is cleaning it! Anytime you use it, as soon as you're home you pull it apart and clean it. I'm sure these hunters are the exact same way. Maybe the outside appears a little rusty or dirty, but I'd be willing to be that they make sure to really clean out the inside of the gun.
For both the "why the blade on the end" and "fight or flight" arguments, I'm going to refer to the "Willing suspension of disbelief." This is a term usually generally in film and theatre but can and is applied to video games. Essentially, this means that we are aware and recognize that this is not real life, and because of this, we are willing to give up a few of our realities in order to truly enjoy the form of entertainment. So why the blade on the end when a bayonet is more practical? Because a big blade on the end is way F***ing cooler! Why is our character able to stay focused even when we're being shot at and bleeding? Because it's a video game, and the majority of people would most likely not enjoy that sort of situation. Anyway, that's my thoughts on the situation! Let me hear what you have to say back!:) I enjoy this very much as well!
It would be cool that while playing one can buy or find cleaning tools or materials and craft cleaning for better functioning of the weapon this would create a "meta gaming" allowing more hardcore gaming... lovely concept! Maybe also allow the character to be better the more it survives and clkeans the gun or shoots it etc... But if there is permadeath... I mean for how long one can survive ,,, sooner or later it will be all erased? I am curious about the system fo progresssion they will implement....
Well we already know quite a bit! Each Hunter levels individually, as well as having like a "commander" rank for lack of a better term, which they call the bloodline systems!
And we find out more next week π Squeee
Just something I am noticing, The launguages that are written on the site all seem to be Haitian Creole, which also brings to mind normal practices of the region that the Launguage was commenly spoken, being Haiti, and one stuck out ot me, the practice of Voodoo, Im starting to wonder if there is a connection, since Voodoo and Haitian Creol started to Appear in Louisiana around 1790s to 1800s, Which makes me wonder that the Hunter society may have voodoo ties, which alows them to have a connection to hell, maybe the Idea of the 8th circle that always seems to appear refers to crimes against God, and the Practicing of Voodoo, to gain power to hunt these creatures seems like a winner to me, sorry if this is out of order, Tired as of writing this.
There is a relevent connection to voodoo.
We need a lore stream, obviously!
Yes, obviously we need that π
We need so much - patience is a gift that passed me at birth damn it
I have a couple videos about the lore I was able to find, and there's one specifically about the Hunter's Association to Voodoo culture. There is also a letter on the desk of the hunter on the website that is from Marie Leavau, who was the Voodoo queen of New Orleans!
Didnt know who she was, lol, I was so focused on the Translations and their meanings that It didnt cross my mind to actually look up the Names, since I assume that were ficticious, but I must learn from my mistakes lol
Ya one thing I've learned is a lot of the named characters are based off real people!
Yeah this is interesting stuff, the Games Asthetic is more appealing to me than all of the other Battle Royale esq games, WHich is why this is the first one Im actually excited for
Yus! It's like a reverse Battle Royale, rather than something forcing you inwards (circle) you have things luring you in together. π
Wait this game has a lore?
Even doom has a lore π
Doom has good lore
wolfensstien has good lore :P
So I thought this was pretty interesting. I was working on one of my videos, when I noticed this. This is the spider from the very beginning of the Steam trailer. I don't konw about you, but this sure looks like a human face to me. It's super cool because I felt like every monster except the Spider fit into the "evolution" of the monsters that was spoken about. You could tell each of them appeared to have been human at one point, and now the spider appears to be the same! Just thought I'd share this!
Different levels of transformation
Some are closer to human, some are closer to their insect nightmare takeover host/parasite/entity
Exactly! π
@elfin laurel has werewolf been discussed at any point?
Werewolf? Whatcha mean?
Nope
nooo I would love to hunt werewolves
They just need to come out with a new Vampire the Masquerade game π
hey what were the people called in one of the circles of Hell? the Simonites? also can i get a link to that picture of them pls
Cenobites from Hellraiser?
nah, i remember seeing it in a lore discussion video once
'This is a different kind of game, one with high stakes and even higher rewards.' also i saw this on the Hunt website. what could be the reward for the Hunters going through all the trouble and pain of facing creatures from Hell itself?
and a third thing. how are Hunters made / chosen ?
like what causes them to be in such dire risk of damnation?
Who says they are in risk of damnation? As far as I can tell it is just that they are 'bounty hunters' and want 'gold' for hunting 'monsters'.
Bounty = gold.
1.) 'You will face creatures that want to gorge themselves on your flesh and devour your soul.'
2.) 'The smallest mistake will cost you everythingβyour bounty, your gear, your life, and your very soul.'
3.) 'Winner takes all. Fail, and go straight to hell.'
that and the site constantly hints that they arent just normal bounty hunters, ofcourse along with the various clips of them showcasing their supernatural prowess
they said in one video that hunters have sacrificed part of their soul and replaced it with a piece of hell which gives them their abilities.
i see. must have had a good reason to do that.
But they haven't gone over the enchamnets and magics that they use so it doesn't really do anything yet
Part of the 'special magic' within the hunters is that they can't get infected / converted by the evil forces. So my guess is they knowingly made some mind of pact to sacrifice a part of their soul in order to be immune to the evil powers they are facing off.
Hello my Questions are does the Hunters have any names and how can the "Monsters" come to the Map (with a ritual or ? )
The hunters do have names, seems like they are semi randomly assigned
Ok Thank You
Sure π
@celest tide They just spawn at the beginning. There is no summoning / ritual. So if you get lucky the boss is at the first location you go. Otherwise you loot hints which you can find with your special vision. These hints narrow the map one by one until you have the exact location of the monster.
I think he means overall story wise how did they get here
@remote igloo yeah this is wait I meant π
No worries, I speak internet well π
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@fading plume I would suggest reading the Dark awaits page in the website! It shows a bit of how corrupted the Hunters are.
im waiting for spooky scary skeletons .. dancing until you ruin their dance and they want to kill you
fillltraaa
That pic reminds me of resident evil for some reason
Hunter the Reckoning
Wayward
As far as lore goes I'm wondering what brought this evil into the world. Was it summoned, did this place just get so bad that evil was able to physically manifest? Have they gone over that at all?
Human nature.
^only good answer considering the standards of good and evil are moral ideals created by human society and culture in the first place π€
That got real deep...
we must go deeper
Society and culture are a means to control people through fear of consequence both serious and petty?
I actually like litterally wrote an essay on pretty much this subject yesterday
cba to translate the whole thing though so short answer is yes but not really
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I like big monsters, they're cool
insert dictator name here followed by conversation as to why monsters are a matter of perspective
o no
lol going so deep we are getting into the mantle
earth penetration intensifies
mods π ± an him plox

Nuuu ban me
this kind of talk is what started those demons
@fading plume you sound like an inquisitor from WH40k
Lol love me some DA
@distant hearth I have a theory on it! My theory is that essentially there was on person who was haunted by a powerful demon, and that demon slowly wore him down until it was able to possess him. That human is then transformed into either the spider or the butcher. Once the new monster kills someone, I believe that's what creates the clues! In the "Dark Awaits" entry that came out recently it talks about how he "relived the Brutality that created this rend" (paraphrasing). It also specifically says that those clues are "rends" that connect our world to theirs, which then allows the smaller demons/infection to spread into our world and infect others. Which also shows why it's localized to a specific area!
Nice
Oh lol I just realized it was @limber raven who originally asked that ππ sorry malkavia!!
Indeed, still a good read though!
Good explanation
@rotund ferry so hey nice explanation tho i have some doubts regarding that if i may add them
i looked a bit in my college uni regardign deamons and possesion a whie ago ( when college didnt possess me)
in a nutshell, possesion works in 2 ways
either the deamon is strong enogh to overcome the human soul therfor easy possesion or the human volentearly allows the deamon to enter his body
plus, a deamon wont enter a sick body
its first goal is to heal its owner (since it is like a parasyte)
therfore i dont think the human died and became the spider
doesnt realy make sense imo
regarding the clues you mentioned i read that a person may link into a deamon
perhaps he was close to someone that was possesed by the deam
and by some spells and shit like that
you may be able to link to the deamon
it was very vague but still had a point in it
we dont really know the physics behind the game ie magic, how things work or not
perhaps @elfin laurel or @queen sparrow can give us some more light into this
but this is still a posibility
in addition when someone is so called possesed by a deamon there are no more human tohughts inside therfore no human intellect
I can't really help you with that sorry!
if the deamon itself is smart then it is possible it can communicate
@elfin laurel np hopefully fasih will talk about it in the near future
for example in the notes from the doctor ( god i f i remember the name of it )
it is clearly seen that the doctor had some sort of meeting with the deamon weather if it was inside himself or not is unclear
but if the doctor was possesed were dealing with a powerful deamon
that can communicate and talk
because as it goes deamons are usually very instinctive - eat, kill etc etc
not alot of communication via phrases and texts like the doctor
Right so so far nothing you've said really counteracts my theory. The demon wore him down until he could possess him. And I never said the human died and became the spider. He was possessed and the demon turned him into the spider.
I also actually believe that our good friend the Doctor was turned into the butcher!
Are you sure that it can talk? It could be that the demon is signifying something which is then interpreted by the doctor as something more complex? For example, the way Ink Blots function
@rotund ferry i never said it counteracts your theory i just said i had my doubts :/
@hushed zinc oh sorry haha. We also don't know specifically how the demons are in this world. In our world what you're saying is true of demons, but it very well could be completely different in their world.
@little pilot as far as i read powerfull deamons that have lived long enough in human society have learned and devloped enough intellect to behave like humans
@hushed zinc Just playing devils advocate, as in the communication and narration may not be reliable
true
@hushed zinc But yeah otherwise thanks for that contribution! I haven't looked into that so much myself and it's an interesting theory over the nature of it
If it bleeds, we can kill it
I'd like it if the hunters are feared by normal people in the lore. Like they protect people from the monsters but because of there power and skills the people see them as a threat
Or even if there was back story to a hunter that the church exiled him/her for practising dark arts in an attempt to stop a demon or monster
I dunno
Where is everyone getting their source of lore for the game?
poorly written deviantart stories
Oh? Nothing canon? Or are they canon?:o
I was kidding, I have no idea where everyone goes
THat was just the worst source I could think of, lol
Oh xD
r/kidswrittenstories
I should have been a bit more obvious
I wouldnt be surprised! They will come soon I am sure xD
like "The comment section of most Fox News articles"
Hahaha, sounds like a Cards against Humanity card
100% agree xD
Most of the Loer is guesswork from tweets and their page and what they've mentioned
Lore even
There's some available on the website in the form of blog posts and such
Face off against unearthly horrors in the forgotten corners of the world. In Crytek's new game you will hunt together, but you will die alone.
I think @rotund ferry is the most obsessed occultist out there though, he's made some cool videos and such
^
note to self: stop ending sentences with 'and such'
Haha it's certainly something I love about this game!! Thanks for the shoutout @little pilot !
You have something in the oven again @rotund ferry ?
Haha well I just put a video up a couple days ago about the clues!:)
Haha, thank you guys! I enjoy writing and am an avid lore lover, so I plan on doing some projects as well in the form of word :3 Very intrigued in the supernatural as well (thats a long story why) so this game is right up my alley.
Hello people I found this game few days back, and heard stress test on the way, I signed up for alpha, is there any special Signup for stress test
There was, too late now.
Yes there was but they are closed now sorry.
OK, cool. Thanks for the reply
Do we know anything of society outside the Hunt and the Hunting Grounds?
Not before the fall, but during when the game takes place.
I thought it was 1890s
Ah fair enough
I remember hearing something about pre WWI weapons
So I knew it was before then, but didn't know if it was after or before turn of the century
Its pretty cool! I am going to have some fun with this:3 I love the way everything they have is written, it is going to be a little challenging using the same diction and imagery they use. But I have some neat ideas on some cool pieces:3
Hey @rotund ferry Could you link your videos?:D Is that allowed?
I'm not sure if I can....if you want just search my name and you should find my channel!!!:)
I'm sure you can link your videos
No reason not to as long as you don't spam
Best would be to just link your youtube page or the playlist itself
At work currently! I'll do that as soon as I'm home!:)
I mean, it does have to do with Lore and it is a part of the community... @unkempt lion, you are currently the only Mod online. Would it be okay if he links his video(s) regarding HUNT for those interested?
(Also curious for future occurances with other members and for other mediums as well)
One second, sorry for the delay
@timid pollen since we haven't gotten our full outline of rules and limitations on streaming/videos, i'd say hold off for now, but if someone inquires I see no reason for him not to DM them to that person, i'll get some clarification on how Maq and Ic3man feel tomorrow
Sounds great, I appreciate it very much:)
Regarding the conversation on the demons, are we really sure they are truly demons themselves? Maybe they are just creatures or beings tainted by the demons, their infectious powers seeping from the rends into our world?
I do not believe the Doctor to be possessed, however I do believe him to go mad and transform, likely, into the butcher. He shows no true signs of possession other than madness and fever, but these are also signs of sickness and death. He retains his sense of consciousness, but he looses his ability to speak and simply hisses and makes noises (at the end). This sounds to me as if he is turning into a zombie, or grunt, but in a more meaningful and special way.
It makes sense though, his world is thrust upside down and he must kill three members of his party the first day after altercations with some creatures. But isnt that also the day he starts to go... coo coo? What if he too was harmed.
If thats the case, then his transformation would take time. Obviously this would be noticed by the other survivors, and we know this to be true, but if you were in a group of survivors with little to no hope of surviving already, would you kill your one and only source of health in a dying world simply on suspicion? I would not.
So they let him live and he gets worse and worse until finally hes done. Hes fully transformed. You can also see hints of this from the flies and moths, the moths did not come from the other corpse, but from his body.
You can see the quick regression, the madness seeping, the loss of comprehension and speech. It looks as if he is turning into a zombie, his body slowly shutting down to complete the process. When he comes to, he only has a moment of realization of the scene around him before the final step takes place (I believe he died, and the final step of regeneration occurred so he came back as a zombie and before his last recognition left his now zombified form murdered his group.)
Just some thoughts on the Dr. Reed stuff after my reading and delving today into the Lore ^.^
Lemme know your thoughts, all!
They are free to link, @rotund ferry go ahead π
Ok cool! Hold on!:)
That's my playlist of all my Hunt Vids I currently have! Most of which are lore videos!:)
@rotund ferry Cool stuff, nice to see some content being made already.
Glad to see roleplayers here.
I would still love for someone to write a DND campaign for Hunt
That could be done
@elfin laurel count me in
As an artist and an avid roleplayer, not just in games like this but most of the games I play, I'm really happy to see the lore being put to the test here for Hunt
Could make some really great content like this I think
I got some creative work in the process, going all in on it

Got some tools im making that ive never used before xD
Excited to see how they help improve my writing
@crisp hare @queen sparrow @dawn storm I made the steam post about how your first character died (or will die obviously...) π you can find it here : (somewhere on the net :D)
Done (but they should not have acces if they don't have the key right? :D)
this is true, but the whole NDA thing means you don't share anything to do with the test including the private forums π
i think this map has a big potential for singleplayer story
did they close the server?
Check the announcements @vestal plover
FeelsBadMan
i ve always to retry
Rossi really?
i ve a problem
That was so disturbing...
are the hunt servers down?
ohhhh okay thank you
thx
A quick Announcement, once the NDA Is lifted, I will make a Lore Video Regarding Current state of Enviormental Story Telling, along with a Video Regarding Nyeeehhhheeeeggg! So Look out for this Video!
NDA wonβt get lifted.
Ever !
@brave mural Not unless you want a lawsuit based off stresstest =v
Im referering to when the game is no longer under a NDA, so Closed alpha or whenever that is, Thats what I ment, Not talking now
speaking of bounties, im wondering who is the person/thing paying for them?
and why?
Probably land owners that want their land cleared, or people chased out of that area and want there town back
Or a secret organization that knows about this 'evil/nightmare' and wants it suppressed/removed
Woah woah woah woah woah wait
If they are singling out the AMERICAN association, giving us insight on this branch and SPECIFICALLY stating so, will they be expanding into other branches around the world?
Umm... what?
in @rotund ferry's video about the American Hunter Association, he explains he talked to a Dev abou the Night Oath, and how it is specific for the American Association. So if they are specifically making that distinction, do you think we will see other associations come in at a leter date?
Well we know that not all maps in the future will be in Luisiana if you know what I mean
Ok here's the lor. Someone found a cube and solved it while live on twitch. So it hell razored everyone. The end. Lol
@Raezien#1673 what is AHA ?
Blueplain, did you basically just describe a really bad version of Hellraiser?
Are we sure that all Hunters do this for the money?
This is where the lore gets fuzzy for me.
If there is this great evil presence and the AHA says theyre fighting it so others dont have to, then why are the members of the AHA killing eachother for something as simple and mortal as money. They are not entirely mortal themselves. So why do they fight for something so finite? I understand theyre risking their life for killing the beasts so they want to get something for their work. But why don thte members of the AHA just work together instead of killing eachother?
They would have so many more men and a lot easier time fighting the evil that way.
It only leads me to believe that this is some club, and not an Evil fighting force to protect humanity. Its like a sport to most Hunters, the thrill of the hunt and the possibility of reward. Not a crusade for the betterment of humanity.
So is their path really that righteous? And are they good men or bad men, and does their purpose mean anything to humanity as a whole other than the side note that they happen to be killing the scourge of this earth?
I would redirect you to @fasih right now for he is one of the story designers but he is not active in discord anymore it seems
Aw that sucks... I appreciate your attempt though, haha
Perhaps they was released from hell with all the other Daemons and they are trying to redeem themselves and free their souls
louisiana was a slave state so what if the AI are sort of representing the slave makers and keepers of the early 1800s, by 1860 half the population was enslaved and so imagine after that all the slave holders got send to hell. Due to some yet unkown phenomenon they rise up again looking to feast upon everything exploit and stuff you know the usual plantation owner stuff ;). Then as sort of a vigilante commitee some people got togheter to form an alliance against these dark forces "the Hunters" which they would later be called. And their alliance could be the AHA. To explain the bloodline the alliance and abilities would be passed on by father and son
But the Hunters Association has existed, to some degree, for decades and not just in America. I suppose that coouuullldd explain the American Chapter but I do not think so xD
true didn't find much about that :p
@rotund ferryβs videos are great for information π go way into depth on the lore they have provided us with and have not:)
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@rotund ferry Hey! So I think I might have found something rather interesting... would you mind if I DMed you?
Not all! Hit me up!
All remember the Cult of Nyyyhhheeaaagg!
Hey everyone just joined! Iβm so pumped to dive into this lore, but can anyone catch me up with some quick pointers since Iβm a little behind?
Welcome welcome!
@elfin laurel literally just watching you on YouTube haha, anymore streams or gameplay reveals coming soon?


