development

[surreal mountain]

read the pin from renai, he has a solution

[oblique flare]

oh nice thanks.

It was XSMax not X makes more sense.

[surreal mountain]

ah yeah

that would be it

but just use the 11.7 toolchain and it should work fine

[oblique flare]

Can confirm ti does work fine.

[surreal mountain]

[oblique flare]

thanks, has anyone found what changed? More than likely the bundles I build in Xcode will need to be changed as well.

Unless I can use the old toolchain in new Xcode which may be possible.

[surreal mountain]

its clang12 being dumb i think

[grim sparrow]

its clang12 being dumb i think
@surreal mountain sort of

There’s changes to something

And

[surreal mountain]

iirc thats what krit said

[grim sparrow]

if you use clang 12

It will only work on 14+

If you use clang 11, it’s 13-

If that makes sense

[surreal mountain]

anyone here use lookin loader

[misty cradle]

@oblique flare the new arm64e abi is unstable

also if you install the ios 13.7 toolchain through the apple website, you can xcode-select /path/to/toolchain and use that in Xcode

then you can choose to continue using the toolchain you put in theos/toolchain or just use the toolchain (13.7) you selected

[oblique flare]

Xcode isn't letting me use the old one uploaded here. I'll try to get the 13.7 one.

[misty cradle]

yeah dont use that

get it from the apple website

[surreal mountain]

you mean xcode 11.7

[misty cradle]

no

[surreal mountain]

not ios 13.7

[misty cradle]

13.7 toolchain

[surreal mountain]

what the fuck is that

[misty cradle]

the commandline tools on apple website

for ios 13.7/xcode 11.7

then if you wanna revert back the new toolchain (14.0 and clang 12) you can either again use xcode-select or do it through preferences in Xcode @oblique flare

@surreal mountain just use whatever is easier for you

your toolchain solution works, so continue with that

[surreal mountain]

im on linux lol

[misty cradle]

o

[surreal mountain]

doesnt matter for me

i just host it

and konw it

[misty cradle]

ah

[surreal mountain]

and this is for tweaks

idk about xc

[grim sparrow]

@sage grotto wrong channel go to like #jailbreak or something

[faint timber]

Lol

I deleted /var/lib

[surreal mountain]

@lapis vessel

[faint timber]

bro

every fucking tweak

[surreal mountain]

que

[faint timber]

imagine not checking if a dir exists

its like penalizing someone for not coming to work when the road was closed

[surreal mountain]

good analogy

help me RE

[gaunt mesa]

thanks, has anyone found what changed? More than likely the bundles I build in Xcode will need to be changed as well.
@oblique flare arm64e ABI is incompatible

so basically

stuff compiled using clang12 only works on ios 14 and above for arm64e

someone correct me if im wrong here

[faint timber]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-nervous-eyes-innocent-scared-gif-13420473

[tepid olive]

true

[faint timber]

yes because absolute path DYLD image loading

symlinks for DYLD image linking don't work on clang 12

[lime pivot]

@gaunt mesa yep

[faint timber]

correct me if I'm wrong

but thats what I noticed when trying to making tweaks after not knowing about clang 12 brokeness

https://github.com/trailofbits/constexpr-everything

lmfao

who tf did this

[late ridge]

someone gave me @ developer in r/tweakbounty

[wary violet]

for ?

[late ridge]

https://repo.chr1s.dev

not much

lol

[wary violet]

😮

ⁱ wanna see inside the repo

[late ridge]

https://www.ios-repo-updates.com/repository/chr1sdev/package/com.chr1s.jigglemode/

[wary violet]

gimme a sec

[late ridge]

I've only released two tweaks and one of them is just a rickroll

[wary violet]

hmm what is totally not a prank ?

ima see it rn

better not gimme a virus

[late ridge]

someone must have gotten me confused with the other Chr1s

I swear one day I'll get burrit0z back for telling me nobody used that name

[wary violet]

WHAT

[late ridge]

haha

no

[wary violet]

why can’t ⁱ download your tweaks ?

[late ridge]

why can’t ⁱ download your tweaks ?
@wary violet LOL

what
@grave sparrow we've already had this convo

[wary violet]

wow 😔

[late ridge]

try again

or use sileo

[wary violet]

blocking me from your repo 👁👁

[late ridge]

lol

[wary violet]

okay

[late ridge]

no

[surreal mountain]

capt

wanna help me with SBRingerPillView

[late ridge]

lol

[surreal mountain]

ok

[wary violet]

don’t work

[late ridge]

don’t work
@wary violet use a diff package manager

[wary violet]

aii

[surreal mountain]

like

the banner?

uhh

[late ridge]

LOL

[surreal mountain]

idk i need to get a notification

aha i will text myself

[late ridge]

what a concept

quiprr is a genius

literally

ba dun tss

[surreal mountain]

NCNotificationShortLookView

is what lookin says

[late ridge]

"lookin"

[wary violet]

lol

[surreal mountain]

ok stfu

too much work

[late ridge]

lol
@wary violet da heck

[surreal mountain]

mobile user

[wary violet]

@wary violet da heck
@late ridge yes

‘’jiggle’’

[late ridge]

you sure you got the right Jiggle Mode?

[wary violet]

😭

yes

[late ridge]

ayyyy

that's it

pog

[wary violet]

omg ⁱ miss snapper 2

[surreal mountain]

use notatio whenever it comes out

[wary violet]

lmaooaoa is my thing broken or

[surreal mountain]

pog screenshot tweak

[late ridge]

my repo is dead, I have to figure out why

[wary violet]

LMAO I LOVE IT

[late ridge]

this is basically the only semi-lame thing this tweak does

[wary violet]

JIGGLE MODE

[late ridge]

[wary violet]

how bout this is not a joke

ⁱ think your repo is broken sir

[late ridge]

ya it most definitely is, even though I have changed nothing

best kind of broken

[wary violet]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[late ridge]

yessir

[wary violet]

really rick rolled me like dat

but ⁱ like the jiggle mode

[late ridge]

most original idea on the planet

lol

[wary violet]

instead of edit homescreen

[late ridge]

did you try the "persistent jiggling" thing

[wary violet]

what’s that

[late ridge]

in settings

[wary violet]

ooh hold on

[late ridge]

turn it on then respring

[runic aurora]

Someone link me to a “hello world” project

I’ve tried so many and none work

Tf am I doing wrong

[lethal kayak]

hello world project for what

[late ridge]

for a tweak?

[runic aurora]

Literally just a tweak that pops up an alert

Sanity check

[lethal kayak]

have you done objective c before

[boreal bramble]

@runic aurora it probably still uses UIAlertView

Depricated by Apple

[runic aurora]

@runic aurora it is probably still use UIAlertView
@boreal bramble it was but I tried using the controller also

I tried hooking status bar so when tapped it would alert

[boreal bramble]

What class are you hooking

[runic aurora]

No dice

[surreal mountain]

bruh

[boreal bramble]

And what iOS u on?

[runic aurora]

13.2.3

SBStatusBarManager

[surreal mountain]

https://cdn.quiprr.dev/PzAXvr81.png

why isnt this logging

woeis

am i stupid

[late ridge]

hold up

oh nvm

ur mom

[surreal mountain]

ok whats the answer

[boreal bramble]

What the fuck

Quippr

[surreal mountain]

how stupid

[boreal bramble]

Quippr

My eyes

[surreal mountain]

how stupid

go ahjead

pleas

e

tell me what i am doing wrong

[boreal bramble]

What are those colours

[surreal mountain]

[boreal bramble]

HOW DO YOU READ

[surreal mountain]

let me guess

you have some light mode code editor

[late ridge]

[boreal bramble]

Also why are u doing

%orig;

And then return %orig;

[late ridge]

^^^^^that was my quesion

lol

[surreal mountain]

idk

i have that code elsewhere and just copied

old code

[boreal bramble]

Do you know the difference between

%orig;
And return %orig;

[surreal mountain]

that is not pertinent to the question

https://cdn.quiprr.dev/4APdMeLz.png

u like that?

[late ridge]

oh, gosh

[boreal bramble]

ew no

[late ridge]

no

[boreal bramble]

What is wrong with a grey look

Why dark blue

[faint timber]

dark blue fine

[surreal mountain]

still not pertinent to the question

[boreal bramble]

Begin with removing that %orig;

[late ridge]

[boreal bramble]

The return at the bottom is fine

I’m sorry

Hey guys have yall played the new cod?

[late ridge]

bro

[surreal mountain]

[late ridge]

not yet

wanna try phasmaphobia whatever the heck it's called

[boreal bramble]

Also @surreal mountain what do you need NSnotifications for

I hope its not to call a method in another class

If yes you are a naughty boy

[surreal mountain]

go ahead keep deleting not pertinent to the question

[boreal bramble]

Awnser the question tho

Its easier to help u then

[surreal mountain]

no

[boreal bramble]

How do you hook swift?

[surreal mountain]

its not easier to answer the question

[boreal bramble]

[surreal mountain]

im asking

why it isnt logging

[boreal bramble]

I cant know without context

how do i hook swift
@vivid dew i heard it is very hard and should charge 2$ for it

[late ridge]

its for flexing your coding skills by asking intelligent questions that you already know the answer to
@vivid dew SO TRUE

[boreal bramble]

@surreal mountain first of all that first %orig; is fuckikg with it remove that and see if it logs

Second

If it doesnt log

Put an NSlog in your constructor

To see if you are in fact receiving them

Or of theres a connection issue between phone and PC

[surreal mountain]

done

done

done

[boreal bramble]

Ok i cannot help u without context then

[surreal mountain]

what the fuck context could you possibly need

[boreal bramble]

What is your goal

[surreal mountain]

making this log appear

[boreal bramble]

What are you trying to achieve

Honestly no clue

It should fire

[faint timber]

trying to improve my tweak by breaking it further

[surreal mountain]

exactly

[tepid olive]

Am I using this class right?

[grim sparrow]

You can use it however you like

[tepid olive]

It's not being written correctly because my IDE isn't autocompleting it

[grim sparrow]

But it went the fancy colours so therefore it is right

[tepid olive]

I'm on Clion bruv

Always fancy colors

[grim sparrow]

Well that’s dumb

The best way to know if what you’ve written is right

Is by checking the fancy colours

[tepid olive]

Here's what I'm trying to do

[gaunt mesa]

why are u like this

[wary violet]

is making a tweak hard to do ?

[grim sparrow]

[gaunt mesa]

@wary violet i wouldn't say hard, but you need some prior knowledge

[grim sparrow]

Yeah that’s a wordy way of what I said

[gaunt mesa]

if u wanna get into it i would recommend you learn objective C first

do not do what i did

and jump straight in

[grim sparrow]

What

That’s the best way

[gaunt mesa]

That’s the best way
@grim sparrow i had skitty carrying me for the first 2 months

until i picked up the basics

who is scoob

u mean scorp

@grave sparrow just carry urself

[lethal ice]

true

rip shep

if u have question just ask @grave sparrow

[grim sparrow]

Your favourite command

Obviously

@grim sparrow make a watchos discord client in swiftui
@grave sparrow

[tepid olive]

Hello bro pls tell why I fuck up

ld: library not found for -lSystem

[lime pivot]

where’s your sysroot at bro

[faint timber]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-lower-decks-beckett-mariner-star-trek-lower-decks-gif-18815716

[tulip belfry]

anyone here do react native development?

[twilit jungle]

Bruh

[runic aurora]

So even though UIAlertView is depreciated, would it still work on ios 13? for test

I'm pulling my hair out because none of my tweaks are working

I know I am doing something wrong

%hook SpringBoard

• (void) applicationDidFinishLaunching:(id)fp8{

%orig;

UIAlertView *alert = [[UIAlertView alloc] initWithTitle:@"Hello" message:@"this my first tweak" delegate:self cancelButtonTitle:@"OK" otherButtonTitles:nil];

[alert show];

}

%end

pls no flame

[lime pivot]

it sometimes works

doesn’t support apps using window scenes which is a new iOS 13 feature

[runic aurora]

Literally just trying to get something to work

Not sure what is wrong with it

[lime pivot]

if you install ondeviceconsole you may be able to see a loading error there

[faint timber]

oslog

[tepid olive]

true

[tepid olive]

How do you hook swift?
@boreal bramble just hook it bro but it’s very hard to do, I would recommend charging $2 for it

Hooking swift is hard /s

[twilit jungle]

Bruh

[tepid olive]

God bless apple and their useless Mach traps

[surreal mountain]

is that and hwat do it mean

[tepid olive]

@surreal mountain basically

int64_t useless_mach_trap_negative_five(void){
return 0xffffffffffae9400f;
}

I think I put too many f's

[faint timber]

lol tf

me using regex instruction searching by name in ida instead of patchfinder mask searching in ida

https://tenor.com/view/mood-gif-18760983

[valid venture]

me trying to code understandable code

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/728500956907438102/728503883697225728/drake-josh-PW.gif

[surreal mountain]

schlorp

@lethal ice

[faint timber]

I love regex

[lapis vessel]

@faint timber bruh you deleted all dpkg information

It's now impossible to know what packages you have installed

DRMs will query dpkg to find out if you have the legitimate package installed, and dpkg will come back to say you don't have it installed, because it thinks you have no packages installed

Needless you say you've borked your whole setup here

[faint timber]

well just decide not to run drm if user doesn't have dpkg because they have to have apps to fix dpkg

was joking nonetheless

[peak quartz]

Any idea why ondeviceconsole refuses to work? iOS 13.5, works on another device

i use remotelog and it works well but i want ondeviceconsole as well ffs

[tepid olive]

Gm

[faint timber]

another fine example

@peak quartz like I said use oslog

[peak quartz]

@peak quartz like I said use oslog
@faint timber doesnt work for me as well

from bigboss right?

ah it works

but spamming a lot

should use grep i guess

[faint timber]

???

ondeviceconsole spammed as well

that how syslog works?

lol

[peak quartz]

ondeviceconsole spammed as well
@faint timber it stops the spam after few seconds

oslog is not stopping

[faint timber]

spamming is good

just use grep

oslog | grep -i -A 10 -B 10 'TweakName'

[gloomy knoll]

I've made a tweak, but I want a user to choose between a few numbers, how would I do this?
i haven't seen opensourced projects do this before.
Thanks

[faint timber]

wat

[grim sparrow]

[brave frost]

I've made a tweak, but I want a user to choose between a few numbers, how would I do this?
i haven't seen opensourced projects do this before.
Thanks
@gloomy knoll random number function?

Seems pretty easy and alot of open sourced projects do it😂

Create an array that stores random numbers

[gloomy knoll]

@brave frost
So I've got a tweak and I need a user to choose a number. Could you tell me any open sourced projects that do this?

[brave frost]

Its pretty easy

If you do not know how to do that, then you need to learn the language

Its basic stuff

[glacial matrix]

I like how the new message has the same contents as the first

@gloomy knoll depending on where you want to show it, you might need a picker VC

[misty cradle]

^ you can either do it where you want it to show up, or make a number box in the preferences

[grim sparrow]

Or a slider thingy

[tepid olive]

PSSliderCell

PSSliderCell really needs to have some way to fit triple digit numbers without cutting it off

PSSliderCell wasn’t made for triple digit numbers so I can’t really blame apple

[lament geyser]

Hey guys, I have one iOS theos process that is slowly eating my iphone memory, and it's being killed by jetsam after a few hours. (exceeded mem limit: InactiveHard)
How can I try to find the memleak with such process ?
I mean, if it was a native xcode project, I could use Product > Profile, then VMMap, but how can I do with native arm64 theos build ?

[surreal mountain]

true

[tepid olive]

what the fuck

assembly is hard

hooking swift is still harder tho

[lethal kayak]

x64

[twilit jungle]

bruh

[kind mountain]

so i managed to get an ios 2.0 app to reverse engineer

[grim sparrow]

Cool

[kind mountain]

i had to get the app onto my icloud via using my 5s with appstore++, then spoof my 4s as ios 2.0

then grab the app

ez

[upper mountain]

whats yalls best advice on tracing setting switch method calls? Trying to disable auto brightness.

[grim sparrow]

I might be going about this wrong, but I’m pretty sure you can load the preference bundle from a tweak, and then run it’s methods from there?

[twilit jungle]

You can, but thats overkill for 1 method

[grim sparrow]

True

[lethal ice]

copy paste

[grim sparrow]

copy paste

[tepid olive]

x64
@lethal kayak yes

i need to learn assembly in general before arm64

x86_64 is best way

[misty cradle]

[lethal kayak]

i mean

i guess it teaches you the concepts but it's not going to help you with arm64 that much

[tepid olive]

:bruh:
@misty cradle go ahead. teach me assembly then.

i guess it teaches you the concepts but it's not going to help you with arm64 that much
@lethal kayak ik

again

[misty cradle]

i said bruh, not its bad

[upper mountain]

I might be going about this wrong, but I’m pretty sure you can load the preference bundle from a tweak, and then run it’s methods from there?
@grim sparrow Looking in var/mobile/library/preferences didnt find any keys that changed in relation to auto brightness. The setting is located in accessibility but I'm thinking it might just graphically be there

[fading kindle]

true

[tepid olive]

i need to learn assembly in general

[misty cradle]

i have yet to learn assembly myself

soon

[fading kindle]

assembly is easy

😎

[tepid olive]

ok teach

[misty cradle]

@fading kindle can you please disassemble this mp3 file for me

i wanna see how they made the beat

[upper mountain]

[fading kindle]

disassemble?

[grim sparrow]

@grim sparrow Looking in var/mobile/library/preferences didnt find any keys that changed in relation to auto brightness. The setting is located in accessibility but I'm thinking it might just graphically be there :HmmChamp:
@upper mountain no I mean actually call the method from the bundle

[fading kindle]

wdym

[grim sparrow]

not change it's key

[fading kindle]

like

[tepid olive]

Anybody know if pongoOS modules support C++?

I don’t wanna ship a module that broken lmfao

Im hoping the linker doesn’t have a stroke whilst trying to do shit with C++

disassemble?
@fading kindle

[fading kindle]

shut up burrito

😎

[tepid olive]

no

[fading kindle]

thank you for making kai free you’re sexy for that

[misty cradle]

@fading kindle put it in ida bro

mp3 file in ida

[lethal kayak]

Anybody know if pongoOS modules support C++?
@tepid olive try it

[tepid olive]

Yea i guess i have nothing to lose

[fading kindle]

mp3 file in ida
@misty cradle ahhhh

yeah bro sure

[misty cradle]

i wanna see the notes, drums in assembly

[fading kindle]

ill just put it in java script c++ print hello world

etf is ida I don’t know what ida is

[lethal ice]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[uncut ginkgo]

bruh some apps have figured out insane fingerprinting

that can bypass reinstalling the app and wiping all data

even after changing timezone, region, languages, etc..

[lethal ice]

its called a keychain

[uncut ginkgo]

omg

[lethal ice]

which is what crane does

[uncut ginkgo]

how did I forget about that

[lethal ice]

multiple containers and keychains

[uncut ginkgo]

I assumed apps manager cleared that lol

[misty cradle]

[uncut ginkgo]

alright time to try that

[lethal ice]

@misty cradle its called a cock

[misty cradle]

[uncut ginkgo]

cock.js?

penis.java

[lethal ice]

it literally says C right there

[uncut ginkgo]

[misty cradle]

@lethal ice yes C from cock

[uncut ginkgo]

Yeah

[misty cradle]

[uncut ginkgo]

[lethal ice]

literally just copied me

ok

[uncut ginkgo]

its very common

standard naming

btw what app did you say also uses the keychain fingerprinting? @lethal ice

crane?

[lethal ice]

crane is a tweak to copy apps

and solves the keychain issue

its paid

[uncut ginkgo]

ahh

[lethal ice]

wait nvm i think theres a lite version

[misty cradle]

@lethal ice its a tweak to make containers for apps bro

not copy app

[lethal ice]

same thing

[misty cradle]

yes there is a lite version

[lethal ice]

i actually really want that now

[misty cradle]

which allows u to modify 1 app

[lethal ice]

i should buy it

[misty cradle]

yes buy 2 copies

[lethal ice]

i forget who the dev is

[misty cradle]

just to support opa

[lethal ice]

ye opa

opa good dev

unlike some others

[uncut ginkgo]

lets seee

[misty cradle]

@naive kraken u are appreciated king

[uncut ginkgo]

as a JS dev this is all black magic to me 😂

[lethal ice]

there is no reason the words "js" and "dev" should be in the same sentence

[uncut ginkgo]

LOL

frontend dev

Lel

[lethal ice]

[uncut ginkgo]

but heres my chance to do actual stuff lol

[naive kraken]

😘 @misty cradle

[uncut ginkgo]

testing it out rn

[misty cradle]

now i can never wash my cheek

[uncut ginkgo]

if this works it will be insane

maybe it was keychain this whole time

ahh rip

they fingerprint beyond crane as well

[wary violet]

lmao

[upbeat wyvern]

sort of messed up that it's faster to do a google search for the apple function you want to look at docs for then click the link from google than to search on apple's website and follow the link

[uncut ginkgo]

I guess its time to try to use flex and try faking my ios/device type

[grim sparrow]

unlike some others
@lethal ice

[lethal ice]

you know who i mean

[grim sparrow]

[gaunt mesa]

@boreal bramble how

[uncut ginkgo]

does anyone know any ways apps can fingerprint beyond:

1. Wiping all app and keychain data using Apps Manager/Crane
2. Reset idfa/advertising id
3. Changing timezone, region, and languages
4. Changing WiFi
5. Reinstalling app

im just so stumped rn

[boreal bramble]

@boreal bramble how
@gaunt mesa howwhat

[grim sparrow]

@uncut ginkgo UUID

[uncut ginkgo]

doesnt that change with each reinstall? @grim sparrow

[grim sparrow]

No it changes when you reset your device

[uncut ginkgo]

rlly

I guess id have to spoof it then

[grim sparrow]

bruh

[uncut ginkgo]

what scam was that lol

[grim sparrow]

some csgo trade scam

[uncut ginkgo]

ahh

damn resetting device didnt work

[lime pivot]

@upbeat wyvern dash.app is worth the money for super fast offline docs 😛

I don’t like the latest redesign but I have no choice now, old version doesn’t support Xcode 12 docs

[misty cradle]

i used the free version of it

[lime pivot]

it’s still better than Apple’s poopy docs window

[misty cradle]

worked great for a while, until it told me to wait 12 seconds

every search

[tepid olive]

[lime pivot]

lmao, he made it worse it seems

[uncut ginkgo]

wtf tho you were right @grim sparrow

[lime pivot]

I first tried it on like v2 or v3, and waited months before buying

because the nag only showed every few searches

[grim sparrow]

wtf tho you were right @grim sparrow
@uncut ginkgo about what?

[uncut ginkgo]

the uuid persisting beyond wiping the app

[tepid olive]

....

[lime pivot]

now I upgraded to latest and it’s on every new search or link click

[uncut ginkgo]

ahh but it changes when I reinstall the app

[grim sparrow]

dash.app you say

[uncut ginkgo]

which actually makes sense

[grim sparrow]

[uncut ginkgo]

sn1ped

[lime pivot]

lmao

[tepid olive]

UUID (Universally Unique IDentifier) Is on a per-app basis. identifies an app on a device. As long as the user doesn’t completely delete the app, then this identifier will persist between app launches, and at least let you identify the same user using a particular app on a device. Unfortunately, if the user completely deletes and then reinstalls the app then the ID will change.

[grim sparrow]

springboard.gay is still going for £23

[lime pivot]

if the Dash guy isn’t buying it, that domain is just going to waste

[tepid olive]

@uncut ginkgo @grim sparrow

[lime pivot]

nobody’s buying it

[uncut ginkgo]

thanks @tepid olive

they were taunting me with this request lol

[tepid olive]

im pretty sure you guys meant udid

cause uuid does reset when you delete app

[grim sparrow]

nah I'm a little dumb

I thought

uuid changed

on reset

[lime pivot]

someone bought kirb.dev before me

bastard

[tepid olive]

[grim sparrow]

so tempted

[uncut ginkgo]

when I reinstalled the app it seems that I got new_user: 1 in the request

[tepid olive]

cant find server https://kirb.dev

[uncut ginkgo]

I bought bigblackgay.men

[grim sparrow]

bruh

[uncut ginkgo]

and got my namecheap account flagged

[grim sparrow]

haha

[lime pivot]

I was debating spending the stupid $200 earlybird registration fee so I could snipe that domain

should have done it

[grim sparrow]

bruh

[lime pivot]

yeah the bastard who has it didn’t even use it

he just sits on it

[tepid olive]

WHAT since when has puts() been a C function???? i mean, i dont know c, but thats so fucking easy

[grim sparrow]

I bought my domain when I hadn't slept for 2 days

and I made a typo in it

[tepid olive]

ik

lol

[uncut ginkgo]

I tried buying an amongus type domain

and didnt realize

[grim sparrow]

fucking elihc.dev

[uncut ginkgo]

there are 2 fucking ways

to spell imposter

[grim sparrow]

how did I manage that

[lime pivot]

jerk

[tepid olive]

lmao

WHOIS

[grim sparrow]

rip

[tepid olive]

*woeis

[uncut ginkgo]

I remember godaddy was doing shady stuff

if you were interested in a domain

[grim sparrow]

jerk
@lime pivot cunt*

[uncut ginkgo]

those fuckers would buy it before you lol

[grim sparrow]

Never used GoDaddy

only ever used NameCheap

[uncut ginkgo]

namecheap is supreme

but they take down ur domains sometimes

[upbeat wyvern]

@lime pivot I use windows 😛

[tepid olive]

          extern    _puts

          section   .text
_main:    push      rbx                     
          lea       rdi, [rel message]      
          call      _puts                   
          pop       rbx                     
          ret

          section   .data
message:  db        "Hello, world", 0```

[lime pivot]

I’m sorry for your loss

try Zeal

[upbeat wyvern]

lol

[uncut ginkgo]

is that assembly

[grim sparrow]

no it's swift

[tepid olive]

this is so much easier than the brain fuck of assembly using the write function

[grim sparrow]

[upbeat wyvern]

I have an OSX VM up that I could run it in usually but eh

[lime pivot]

open source Dash clone, it’s gotten quite a lot better over the years

[tepid olive]

yes its assembly, using a c function

[lime pivot]

actually why am I even buying Dash 5 when I can use Zeal

[tepid olive]

i shall go make a tweak in assembly now

[grim sparrow]

lol

[misty cradle]

@lime pivot link to zeal

[upbeat wyvern]

https://zealdocs.org/

[grim sparrow]

legend

[lime pivot]

try your world wide web search engine of choice

[tepid olive]

well actually we all know i need to learn assembly more than i do before i can make assembly tweak

its possible tho

[grim sparrow]

that works too

[misty cradle]

wtf

it links to dash for macos

sad

[grim sparrow]

lol

[tepid olive]

MSHookMessageEx go brrr

[upbeat wyvern]

@lime pivot I thought you just suggested that to make me not use my world wide web search engine of choice 🤔

[lime pivot]

lmao wow they do

jerks

sorry @grim sparrow I mean cunts*

[grim sparrow]

I go to a rough school, my vocabulary is interesting

[lime pivot]

@upbeat wyvern please use bing for this particular search, um, no particular reason

[upbeat wyvern]

can probably compile for osx from https://github.com/zealdocs/zeal

@lime pivot diaf

wait was there an actual joke there?

[lime pivot]

lmao

yes

not a great one but yes

[misty cradle]

please use @bingner.com

[uncut ginkgo]

@tepid olive ehh it worked

[grim sparrow]

then just spoof that

[upbeat wyvern]

I searched for "zeal dash" and I get about the same as google with bing

[uncut ginkgo]

reinstalling app + clearing all data + resetting advertising id

[upbeat wyvern]

just zeal was pretty useless

[lime pivot]

I guess the Zeal guys just agreed to not step on kapeli’s toes / source of income by not releasing macOS builds

[grim sparrow]

fair

[lime pivot]

fair since it’s literally a spot-on clone

and in my few attempts to use Linux seriously it’s been very good and getting better

[upbeat wyvern]

https://github.com/zealdocs/zeal/wiki/Build-Instructions-for-macOS

[grim sparrow]

can you add a corner radius to a UITabView

[lime pivot]

hah someone literally made a HEAD formula

[upbeat wyvern]

lol

[misty cradle]

does it give me HEAD?

[lime pivot]

yeah as I expected it’s Qt, so you’ll get a few of Qt’s hallmark non-native feelings

[grim sparrow]

does it give me HEAD?
@misty cradle sadly not

[lime pivot]

yes but only if you specify it in all caps

lowercase head does not, in fact, give you head

lmao, it’s all beer metaphors, I like how HEAD just happened to work as-is

[uncut ginkgo]

rip they still detected me

reinstalling app + clearing all data + resetting advertising id
@uncut ginkgo

[lime pivot]

if only MacPorts had cute beer branding it wouldn’t have died out

[grim sparrow]

true

@uncut ginkgo what are you trying to do again?

[uncut ginkgo]

bypass a device ban

[grim sparrow]

[uncut ginkgo]

on tiktok

[lime pivot]

boo installing qt

[grim sparrow]

oh fuck

Dash is kinda hot

[lime pivot]

we'll get there as soon as Homebrew quits complaining about my Xcode install not being good enough

just had to add this to my ~/.theosrc make ifneq ($(shell xcode-select -print-path),/Applications/Xcode-11.4.app/Contents/Developer) $(error YOU ARE USING THE WRONG XCODE VERSION) endif

damn homebrew

ayy

it works

doesn't exactly fit into big sur by any means but hey

[grim sparrow]

How does Big Sur perform for you compared to Catalina?

[lime pivot]

just a few bugs, otherwise it's fine

[grim sparrow]

[lime pivot]

I'm still on beta 9 or something which has a frustrating issue where open/save panels beachball for 5-10 seconds before they open

[grim sparrow]

yeah I think it's time to retire this machine then

[lime pivot]

fixed in beta 10, but given the type of problems people have been tweeting about, I'm just sitting where I am and not moving till GM

[grim sparrow]

beta 10 is worse than 9 imo

[lime pivot]

even GM will be full of bugs, they need more time to get this right than they have right now

[restive ether]

Dash is kinda hot
@grim sparrow

[misty cradle]

@grim sparrow
@restive ether

go rename zark rn

[lime pivot]

@restive ether
@misty cradle

[grim sparrow]

but at the same time

this isn't enough

lol

[lime pivot]

yeah the RAM is the killer here I promise you

[grim sparrow]

I know it is

Discord takes 1gb alone

[misty cradle]

wb discord web

[lime pivot]

the other specs do hold up well, it's the RAM that fucks it

[restive ether]

you should use web discord

[lime pivot]

I should know, I had the same specs in a 2013 MacBook Air

[grim sparrow]

ye

I'm gonna Hackintosh new PC

and then perhaps in a couple years

[lime pivot]

that was my dumb fault for not checking if the RAM was actually upgradable, I just assumed it was and I was broke so I wasn't paying for 8 GB upfront

[misty cradle]

is it hackintosh compatible

[grim sparrow]

cop arm macbook

is it hackintosh compatible
@misty cradle I'm getting an AMD gpu just for this purpose

[lime pivot]

broke
buying $1500 computer

[misty cradle]

nice

[grim sparrow]

stfu

[restive ether]

that’s if apple doesn’t do wack shit with the arm macs

[grim sparrow]

I'd rather spend £50 on a gpu for my pc and get pog performance

[restive ether]

if they do they aren’t worth getting

[misty cradle]

@restive ether

true

[restive ether]

@restive ether
@misty cradle

[misty cradle]

@ True

:intjsad.

[grim sparrow]

I don't plan to do any graphic intensive stuff in macos

thats what 3080 is for / Windows

[restive ether]

@true

@primal perch true

[lime pivot]

oh you know what's the best about Zeal

it's literally using Dash's docsets

[grim sparrow]

What?

oh lol

[misty cradle]

lmao

[lime pivot]

downside: it doesn't have the "special" Apple docset because that's generated from your Xcode install

[grim sparrow]

rip

I think I need to upgrade Xcode

[lime pivot]

you have to dump them from a Mac usually, but I bet you can just symlink them in and it'll work

going good so far

Firefox does not trust this site because it uses a certificate that is not valid for singapore.kapeli.com. The certificate is only valid for the following names: appstore.kapeli.com, blog.kapeli.com, buy.kapeli.com, cheat.kapeli.com, contrib.kapeli.com, kapeli.com, markdown.kapeli.com, newyork.kapeli.com, r.kapeli.com, www.kapeli.com

[grim sparrow]

4 hours of my life I'll never get back

[restive ether]

cheat.kapeli.com

[lime pivot]

you gotta download the xips from the developer site bro

I mean they take longer to download cause there's no deltas

but it's also less bullshit in future

[grim sparrow]

they take like 3 hours to unzip

i'm lazy

plus

Xcode now does

I don't know what it's called

[lime pivot]

for reference it's equally as bad on my top end i9 MacBook Pro 16"

[grim sparrow]

I don't need to download the full 11gb every time

[lime pivot]

xip is just fucking slow and Xcode is just fucking massive

delta

[grim sparrow]

pog

[runic aurora]

for reference it's equally as bad on my top end i9 MacBook Pro 16"
@lime pivot I’m jelly

[lime pivot]

hi jelly I'm kirb

[lethal kayak]

xip is so fucking slow

[lime pivot]

it's a ✨ business expense ✨

[lethal kayak]

literally takes longer to extract than to download

[lime pivot]

it's helped me make far more than what I paid for it, so, it was worth it

don't buy this laptop if you like having more than 2 hours battery life

[lethal kayak]

lmao

[tepid olive]

it's a ✨ business expense ✨
@lime pivot oh no not the ✨

[lime pivot]

would you like the 💁‍♀️ instead

[tepid olive]

literally takes longer to extract than to download
@lethal kayak how? Takes me 5 mins to extract xcode 11.7 xip

would you like the 💁‍♀️ instead
@lime pivot no

[lime pivot]

💁‍♀️ 💅 💅 ✨

[tepid olive]

Omg

[eternal crater]

💁‍♀️ 💅 💅 ✨

[runic aurora]

Good guides on getting FLEXible working and setup?

Its not working for me

program no worky

Okay weird

just doesn't work in calendar

[twilit jungle]

Thats not how window levels work

[runic aurora]

weirdly not working on most system apps

even though they are enabled

calc works

calendar, files, clock don't

weird

not working for me on 13.2.3

[tepid olive]

Imagine using FLEXible and not FLEXall

[runic aurora]

i dont like using tweaks made by someone named ghost

[lethal ice]

i don't like you

[eternal crater]

Same

[runic aurora]

my feels

flexall is 100% better btw ty @tepid olive

[twilit jungle]

[narrow mason]

bro dont talk about ghost like that

[lethal ice]

@twilit jungle yo beat his ass

[narrow mason]

get him bro

[upper wigeon]

but a ghost can’t hurt you

[narrow mason]

[lethal ice]

he will haunt your nightmares forever then

[narrow mason]

true

[upper wigeon]

true

guess we all got ghosts then

[lethal ice]

[tepid olive]

helo

i have returned from the unliving

[lethal ice]

helo

[tepid olive]

[lethal ice]

gm

[tepid olive]

gm scorp

have u seen shep

[lethal ice]

look what i saw today

oh it doesn't wanna send

roadrunner

[tepid olive]

epic

[lethal ice]

i think

[tepid olive]

bro actually?

sick

[lethal ice]

yeah

[tepid olive]

def

they look almost the exact same

[lethal ice]

good lookin little guys

any gmers?

[faint timber]

Joe BAMA

[tepid olive]

true

[lethal ice]

wtf

[tepid olive]

kek

what server is that

invite

[lethal ice]

top secret

[tepid olive]

oh

that server

woe

[lethal ice]

did u ask shlorp for invite

[tepid olive]

no

[lethal ice]

it's jkk

[tepid olive]

woe

[lethal ice]

jynx pissed

@rain falcon

[tepid olive]

i wanna be in a secret server

woe kek

[lethal ice]

jynx was mysteriously kicked from jkk2 right after it was created

[tepid olive]

ok

so

which one is schlorp

[lethal ice]

shepgoba

[tepid olive]

ah

yes idk how i forgot that

kek

ok i shall attempt to do the ask

@primal perch helo sir can i request entry into the epic super secret place

inshallah

[lethal ice]

sorry

it's just a couple people

[tepid olive]

woe

[lethal ice]

[tepid olive]

the only secret server that i’m in is the one that i made

[lethal ice]

fr

[tepid olive]

which one is schlorp
@tepid olive

there is skorp

scorp

shlorp

it is hard to keep track

stfu burrito man

true

[lethal ice]

burrito knows of jkk

[tepid olive]

ofc he does

everyone but me does

:woeis1:

[lethal ice]

burrito is not in jkk

[proud geyser]

What language do y’all usually use for server side?

Swift serverside?

[tulip belfry]

any react native developers here?

please @ me if you are react native

@proud geyser Vapor

[proud geyser]

So yall do use Swift huh

[tulip belfry]

no

I do not use swift for backend

ever

I hate it for backend

[proud geyser]

Then whats the vapor for

[tulip belfry]

Well its if you wanted to do it in swift

Some people love swift and want to write a web server in it

I use expressJS with TypeScript when I write WebServers

[proud geyser]

Nah im asking for shat you guys use for backend

[tulip belfry]

?

oh okay

i use TypeScript

and ExpressJS is the Web framework i use

[proud geyser]

Ohh

Thats what i thought

So nobody really uses java or python huh

[tepid olive]

@tulip belfry please don’t use react

react is hell

i’d never recommend using it

[tulip belfry]

I was using swiftUI but it sucked

React Native is fine

[tepid olive]

nope

[tulip belfry]

literally I have done so much in 8 days

[tepid olive]

not really

[tulip belfry]

yes

[tepid olive]

swiftui >>

[tulip belfry]

its fast too

no

[tepid olive]

yes

[tulip belfry]

I love SwiftUI

[tepid olive]

it might be fast

[tulip belfry]

dont get me wrong

[tepid olive]

but it sucks

[tulip belfry]

SwiftUI is just very early

[lethal ice]

@grave sparrow wtf is ur real name again

[tulip belfry]

It isnt mature

[tepid olive]

@grave sparrow wtf is ur real name again
@lethal ice

but

regardless

react is still ass

and you can’t change my mind

[tulip belfry]

give me some reasons why its bad

[tepid olive]

uh

well

for starters

it is hell for making tweaks for lmao

react is what discord is written in.

[lethal ice]

it's fucking trash

[tepid olive]

yes

see now you have to agree with me @tulip belfry

cuz scorp says so

[lethal ice]

any javascript UI framework should not be used professionally

[tepid olive]

yesss

[tulip belfry]

Give me reasons

[tepid olive]

preach

[tulip belfry]

you cant just state a fact and expect me to believe u

[tepid olive]

i have a few

well

[tulip belfry]

go ahead

[lethal ice]

it's terribly slow and taxing, just look at google chrome with all those js scripts runnning

[tepid olive]

normally you cant vander

vancer

tf

but

when scorp is saying it

it must be true

[tulip belfry]

scoob

[tepid olive]

scorp

[tulip belfry]

discord mobile is very well optimized

[tepid olive]

false

so very false

just

wow

[tulip belfry]

it isnt slow

I havent had any issues with it ever

[tepid olive]

it’s taxing

[tulip belfry]

its fluid

not rlly

[tepid olive]

it’s taxing though

[lethal ice]

it's extremely inefficient, slow, and powerless compared to a C family language

[tepid olive]

true

[tulip belfry]

it is at the end of the day just running c bindings

js isnt that slow

[lethal ice]

uses an incredible amount of ram