💽Programming Chat v2

[timid quartz]

more fitting

[spare quartz]

❌

you’re just trying to undermine all of the women Java programmers

shameless.

[timid quartz]

wtf

[spare quartz]

what

[timid quartz]

why is the dog drooling

[spare quartz]

I dunno

Japanese culture

you just drool if you get heart palpitations

[timid quartz]

Kill

[spare quartz]

new chao designed character is peak

[timid quartz]

opposite of peak*

[spare quartz]

look at themmmm

[timid quartz]

⚔️

I will smite them

[spare quartz]

they will kill you

[timid quartz]

Nope I’d win

no diff

[spare quartz]

Infinite diff

[timid quartz]

probably even neg diff

[spare quartz]

https://fixupx.com/bayachao/status/1968151958977646767?s=46

ばやちゃお (@BAYACHAO)

きゃろるちゃんをよろしくお願いします❣

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FixupX · Sep 17, 2025, 3:16 AM

[spare quartz]

I love Carol…

Anyways in a few minutes I need to lug 3 printers back home

!!!

[timid quartz]

I hope a printer knocks your pc over and crushes it

[spare quartz]

what.

The printers aren’t that heavy stupid…

I’m pretty sure my mechanical printer is heavier than 2 of them combined

[timid quartz]

I hope when you step outside that the sun turns you into a pile of dust…cause you’re a vampire….

[spare quartz]

yeah gimme your blood

[spare quartz]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

@flint belfry question

whats your oldest working computer

[flint belfry]

uh

i think some Asus laptop from the late 90s

or one of my sun or sgis

[spare quartz]

i think this is my oldest now....

[flint belfry]

NOT A COMPUTER (technically)

and my school has the same model

[spare quartz]

well it has a CPU and memory

[spare quartz]

HP laserjet 4100N?

im just surprised it works cause i got it for free

[flint belfry]

dosent have a desktop or terminal

[spare quartz]

you are dumb if you think that defines a computer

[flint belfry]

well pc

[spare quartz]

ok bub.

next to me i have 3 laserjet pro m501s

one of them has SERIOUS paper tray corrosion

but the other 2 look fine and boot up

(they just yap about needing black ink)

[timid quartz]

Like your brain.

[timid quartz]

LOOK EVEN THE PRINTER RUNS RUST!!!!

[spare quartz]

my brain does not have a paper tray.

[spare quartz]

KYS

RN

I KNEW YOUD SAY THAT

also i found out my old printer runs 64-bit MIPS at 300 MHz 🙏

[timid quartz]

your brain is corroded. from KOTLIN.

[flint belfry]

hi lay

oh your not lay

get out

[spare quartz]

what

?

how would i be lay

[flint belfry]

your pfp reminded me of his pfp

[spare quartz]

which is.

[flint belfry]

the bagacahhcaovhaoao shit

whatever it's called

slopacho

[spare quartz]

you're bagacahhcaovhaoao shit.

[flint belfry]

SLOPACHO

JAPANESE PROPAGANDA

[flint belfry]

toss them in and put it on a wash cycle for 24 hours

[spare quartz]

Maybe this is why Toby Fox doesn't interact with his Western Fans

[flint belfry]

we're just that good

[flint belfry]

HOLY SHIT ARE YOU JUST MIKE FROM DELTARUNE

YOU TELL HIM EVERYTHING

[spare quartz]

you dont know anything Cade .

[flint belfry]

i do

[spare quartz]

Hade .

what is their other name.

[flint belfry]

wdym

[spare quartz]

thats classified .

[flint belfry]

do you mean the one that starts with e

Im Right

[spare quartz]

finish

[flint belfry]

no not here at least

also that's up to them if i say it

[timid quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/chickens-chicken-charge-chickens-running-tiktok-gif-20357241

[spare quartz]

bayachao cinematic universe..

[spare quartz]

UPDATE

what the hell

why does the 24 year old printer still have ink inside of it

and why does it still work just fine

they really DID use to make these better

[timid quartz]

and yknow what wasn't even around then? kotlin

kotlin is newslop.

use better langs.

[spare quartz]

rust wasnt either!

newslop

[timid quartz]

I will concede

I should become a C89 purist

-std=c89 -Wall -Werror -pedantic

[spare quartz]

thankfully im already that by proxy

[timid quartz]

❌

not through kotlin

[spare quartz]

✅

[timid quartz]

not through the jvm

[spare quartz]

yes through kotlin

yes through the jvm

[timid quartz]

❌❌

[spare quartz]

wether you like it or not managed languages solved computers

[timid quartz]

a real c89 purist would never be caught dead writing kotlin, they'd only write C

[spare quartz]

well you know what c89 purists barely do?

actually write good code.

[timid quartz]

they made computers worse*

[spare quartz]

plus i bet the average rust/c developer doesn't even know how to interop with C++ easily

[timid quartz]

uhm...with c/c++ it's pretty easy....and if you have a c interface then you can interop with rust pretty easily too..

[spare quartz]

? no

im talking directly interfacing with C++ objects and methods

[timid quartz]

uh....don't do that....

[spare quartz]

raw C is stupidly easy

[timid quartz]

just write a c interface....

[spare quartz]

no..

how about you just learn the C++ memory structure and write it in kotlin..

no libraries needed..

"DirectX 12 supported languages: only C++"
lie

[timid quartz]

how about I learn the C++ memory structure and write it in C or Rust instead

rather than sloplin

[spare quartz]

okay

do it.

and do it with 100% safety

[timid quartz]

I will

(Kotlin doesn't implicitly guarantee 100% safety either)

[spare quartz]

(it does)

[timid quartz]

(not)

[spare quartz]

(200% safe)

[timid quartz]

(-200%*)

[spare quartz]

actually

does rust's C interop allow you to set the allowed size/alignment of memory segments

or just alignment

[timid quartz]

example

are you talking about the stack and heap

and stuff

or what

[spare quartz]

val a = arena.allocate(5, 8) // allocate 5 bytes with an alignment of 8 bytes
a.set(ValueLayout.ADDRESS, 0, MemorySegment.fromAddress(yourmom))
// ERROR invalid memory access

this doesnt segfault it just throws a standard exception

[timid quartz]

I don't think Rust provides facilities for that, no

[spare quartz]

oh

[timid quartz]

Rust doesn't really give you an allocator

[spare quartz]

do you interop to malloc or something

[timid quartz]

well ok i lied

std::alloc exists

[spare quartz]

in java FFM the default memory segment size is "0" if it say, returns from a C function that allocs something

so you must reinterp it to actually r/w to it otherwise it'll kill you

what about umm

structures

are you able to define other structures in structures, or the alignment/padding of a structure

(java FFM again throws an exception if you attempt to use an aligned type in an unaligned structure, like { *void, int })

[timid quartz]

use std::alloc::{alloc, dealloc, Layout};
use std::ptr;

// ...

let layout = Layout::from_size_align(5, 8).unwrap();

unsafe {
    let ptr = alloc(layout);
    if ptr.is_null() {
        panic!("Failed to allocate memory");
    }

    let addr_ptr = ptr as *mut *mut u8;
    *addr_ptr = ptr::null_mut();

    dealloc(ptr, layout);
}

would probably? be the equivalent

[spare quartz]

i se

[timid quartz]

nested structures yes, but you have to do something like

struct A;
struct B { a: A }

alignment and padding can be controlled with #[repr(packed(n), align(m))]

eg

#[repr(C, align(8))]
struct AlignedStruct {
    first: i16,
    second: i8,
    third: i32
}

[spare quartz]

oh

(struct elements are then indexed with VarHandles for numbers/addreses (resolved as memory segments with size 0), or MethodHandles in the case of nested structs, where they get a memorysegment with the size of the struct they are for)

[timid quartz]

YOUR TAKING TOO LONG !!

[spare quartz]

AERASTO.

DO YOU WANT THE BALLS OF JD VANCE.

[timid quartz]

the fuck kinda question is that

[spare quartz]

https://fixupx.com/i/status/1968342253417754811

Farrukh (@implausibleblog)

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FixupX · Sep 17, 2025, 3:52 PM

[timid quartz]

@qsoc get this person out of here

[spare quartz]

look!

they're literally balls of jd vance

[timid quartz]

maybe if they were made in rust

[spare quartz]

weirdo

[timid quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1239628428655988858/1417992424579530774/IMG_9210.jpg?ex=68cc7fdb&is=68cb2e5b&hm=18dd46c14a0bbf10b8b0a749dcd20534d039ffc5ba5ae5a8effb57037122dc0c&

[spare quartz]

ファックユー

[timid quartz]

https://youtu.be/ZGCckws9SJI?si=XWaQwbgmru23RDfV

I’m starting with you

[spare quartz]

ewww

you listen to femtanyl?? 🤮

[timid quartz]

“Murder every 1 u know” is solid life advice

[spare quartz]

WRONG

https://youtu.be/_Fl_LJBixfg

rob everyone you know is better advice

[timid quartz]

Either way you’re first

[spare quartz]

nah

you're first

[timid quartz]

nope I don’t know me

but I do know you

[spare quartz]

(you do not)

[timid quartz]

I’m 100 miles from your location and closing rapidly

You won’t be able to run

[spare quartz]

aera

i have a firearm

pls come within range

[timid quartz]

check your closet.

[spare quartz]

THERE ARE MONITORS EVERYWHERE INSIDE

its gotten so bad

im stacking monitors vertically

i could honestly put a printer in the middle of the monitor swarm and have it be completely structurally sound

https://youtu.be/YzBENUJtr1Q

[spare quartz]

$10 までの料理が無料に。お支払いは手数料のみです

help my email ads are in japanese now ☹️

[timid quartz]

Welcome to the club

[spare quartz]

I ALREADY REMOVED THE PROPERTY!!!!!!!

also this is the guy

who has his signature in comic sans

[timid quartz]

Good good….i hope they think you failed to remove the property and then ban you from all auctions and raid your house for your other stuff…..

[spare quartz]

Good good....if only you knew there is a GSA representative assigned to every single order on the site..

https://gsaauctions.gov/auctions/preview/339664

i want the truck............

[timid quartz]

1. Bid
2. Win
3. Fail to pay
4. Get banned and be in debt to the govt

[spare quartz]

and its marked as closed!

wooho!!

[timid quartz]

That’s how you get the truck

[spare quartz]

5. i make an account under your social security number and blame it all on you

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/705583014805241896/1142605069498466394/rapidsave.com_4fma5pt5a01b1.gif

[timid quartz]

6. I steal your SSN and max out 20 lines of credit that I don’t pay back

[spare quartz]

7. i sue you for identity theft and you end up rust-less behind bars for 9000 years

[timid quartz]

8. You also go to jail for using my ssn in step 5

[spare quartz]

9. okay but i say i was a jan 6th rioter and should be pardoned

[timid quartz]

With no Kotlin. Or bayachao.

[timid quartz]

10. But then they look at your Discord chat history and imprison you for 1000x longer

[spare quartz]

11. ちゃお！

[timid quartz]

12. Die

And goodnight brainless idot

Goodnight, sleep tight, the rats are coming for you tonight

[spare quartz]

ふあふあなキミにゾッコン中

wow jisho cannot parse this sentence for the life of it

[wicked cliff]

migrated most of the VM codebase from Lua to Go

[timid quartz]

@spare quartz I remember you doing things with crypto certs and lmao Java 25 just obsoleted that https://openjdk.org/jeps/470

Not to mention Java 25 obsoleted Kotlin even more with JEP 512 and 513

[spare quartz]

“This is a preview API”

my code is strictly x.509 parsing and is designed for Java 21

I’m not sure you’re qualified enough to comment on this yet

[timid quartz]

It’s got X.509….

[spare quartz]

do you.. know what X.509 is

[timid quartz]

But also 512 and 513…Kotlin is even more obsolete now….

[spare quartz]

Please send 512 and 513

[timid quartz]

please goog

[spare quartz]

No

I am at a clinic

[timid quartz]

If you can discord, you can goog

[spare quartz]

Since I assume not, X.509 is a binary format

It does not imply anything cryptographic

We use it to create anything certificate related like CSRs or certificates directly

In other words: this JSR does not help us in any way

[spare quartz]

That’s

DER

Just write out your own implementation stuff to see how it works and come back to me with any other concerns you could have

[spare quartz]

That has absolutely no relation to what I said

[timid quartz]

uh…yuh huh

[spare quartz]

Whatever

I’m kinda in awe rn

I have my own VA card

[timid quartz]

Anyways

https://openjdk.org/jeps/512
https://openjdk.org/jeps/513

[spare quartz]

513 is very useful and will benefit ALL JVM languages

512 is just a nice QOL for Java

[timid quartz]

Yeah and with that QOL…Kotlin’s “superior syntax” becomes even more obsolete…

[spare quartz]

im a veteran… respect me aera…

trust me bro..

[timid quartz]

https://openjdk.org/jeps/507

This will also obsolete Kotlin…

[spare quartz]

This will benefit all JVM languages

[timid quartz]

Kotlin becomes more obsolete by the day…

Obsoletelin

[spare quartz]

Aerasto becomes more obsolete by the day

Carolsan

[timid quartz]

Tell me how Java isn’t just better than Kotlin now

[spare quartz]

Ok

If you think Java is so good

Write in it for a month

[timid quartz]

Ok bet

[spare quartz]

熱下がって明日仕事行けるって判断できるくらい回復しました！！！！！！！！！21日よろしくお願いします！！！！！！！！！

[rustic vine]

its actually not that bad

[spare quartz]

he’s a rust user

[rustic vine]

oh

right

[spare quartz]

I want him to use the JVM for a month

[timid quartz]

I did!!! With the stupid carpool thing!!!

[spare quartz]

Keep using it.

Make more complex things.

[timid quartz]

❌ rust is objectively better

[rustic vine]

I think good Java can actually be surprisingly easy to write/read

[timid quartz]

Like what

[rustic vine]

especially with all the tools available to u now

[spare quartz]

uhhmmmm hmmm

you could attempt to make a voxel engine with our OpenGL stuff…

that is if you’re in windows

[rustic vine]

yea he should make VoxelRenderingStrategyFactory

[spare quartz]

I don’t have enough test samples to write an impl for Mac or Linux

[spare quartz]

GraphicsWindowOpenGLContextFeature*

[rustic vine]

oh ok

[timid quartz]

Why would I do this in Java when C/++ is way more suited to it

Besides the JNI crap would look EXACTLY the same

[rustic vine]

C++ MENTIONED

[spare quartz]

Because C++ is not suited to writing OpenGL

OpenGL is a C library

[rustic vine]

its ok it has cpp bindings

[spare quartz]

It’s suitable for anything on the planet

[spare quartz]

And no

[timid quartz]

Yes*

[spare quartz]

Im saying use BSL / FFM

You’re not allowed to use JNI anymore

It’s worse in nearly every aspect

[timid quartz]

Why would I use an external dependency, Kotlin no less

[spare quartz]

You don’t need to use Kotlin…

[timid quartz]

BSL is Kotlin

[spare quartz]

You can use it in Java…

It looks a little weird but it’s just as usable

[timid quartz]

But I’m still depending on an external Kotlin library.

[spare quartz]

Sigh.

Use FFM then

[timid quartz]

❌ Kotlin is actually less useable

[rustic vine]

dang this is a goofy conversation

[spare quartz]

Elaborate.

[rustic vine]

can we agree to agree

[timid quartz]

ATP is a goober

So yeah I agree

[spare quartz]

Harry don’t listen to this rustlet

I’m a veteran

of the Kotlin wars

[timid quartz]

YOU HAVENT EVEN BEEN ALIVE 20 YEARS

[spare quartz]

[rustic vine]

I mean like this back and forth seems a little pointless

[spare quartz]

No it’s fun

I feel like aerasto is just intentionally dense sometimes

He knows more than he puts off…..

[rustic vine]

I hope you are aware this is not an upgrade but really a downgrade instead

[spare quartz]

don’t worry

[rustic vine]

ye this is true

[spare quartz]

I’m gonna get blown up for a camaro

[rustic vine]

also its supposed to be "gives off" right?

I've never heard "puts off" and got me confused now

it sounds right but I've never heard it

[spare quartz]

Well you understood it so I guess it’s interchangeable

It’s just the first thing that came to mind waiting for my doctor

[rustic vine]

oh ok den kis hi ki no neko

[spare quartz]

Rust containment unit

[rustic vine]

what are u in the doctors for

[spare quartz]

You almost got that right. し、not ひ

[rustic vine]

and how do u have service

[spare quartz]

physical

[spare quartz]

good question im not too sure

but the VA approved me

[rustic vine]

cuz all the doctors offices I've been in

are like encased in 20 meters of concrete bunker

[spare quartz]

oh you mean that service

[rustic vine]

oh

[spare quartz]

uhhh

very good… penetrating 5G waves…

👍

[rustic vine]

isn't 5G the worst

at doing that

[spare quartz]

Ummm

Maybe

[rustic vine]

lol

[timid quartz]

JVM containment unit is 100x thicker

[spare quartz]

JVM containment is the SHARPS container*

you’re all the needles inside

Oh yeah im gonna get two shots soon

Kms

[rustic vine]

which ones

[timid quartz]

Peanut butter shot

[rustic vine]

veterans shot

[spare quartz]

I don’t remember

Something that begins with an H and part 2 of it

and then the flu shot

[timid quartz]

Hepatitis B?

[spare quartz]

No

I don’t think so at least

[timid quartz]

H1N2?

[spare quartz]

Doctor

[rustic vine]

Human to Rustlet vaccine

wait

why are u getting vaccines

they are ILLEGAL

and they will give u autism

thats what my healthcare official said

[timid quartz]

I feel like atp is intentionally dense all the time…they know what’s better and what’s not…but they pretend to not be capable of abstract thought…

[rustic vine]

LOL

ye agreed too

😁

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472407264700006420/1417930151647514684/c823mvosjn.mp4?ex=68cc45dc&is=68caf45c&hm=10f1864f456ca064afc8176d6b2f66c8e61f16795e3ba8c36392e03e955045cb&

[spare quartz]

Meningitis B

Also my vision got worse

I’m now 20/50 with glasses …

[timid quartz]

ah yeah

I had that one too

that one is apparently really common in barrack-style or dorm-style housing

which is why ur getting vaccinated for it

[spare quartz]

it attacks your brain!!!

so you cannot use rust anymore!!

[timid quartz]

so YOU can't use KOTLIN anymore

[spare quartz]

it’s bacteria made in Kotlin

therefore it’ll just make me stronger

the government is injecting me with formaldehyde to prevent that.

[timid quartz]

nah it predates kotlin

it's made in C89

[timid quartz]

GOOD. NO MORE KOTLIN.

[spare quartz]

ewwwww

[spare quartz]

waaaaahhh

I don’t wanna have the shooottssss

[timid quartz]

get the shots.

[spare quartz]

I just did

They were surprisingly painless

But now the soreness is getting to me

My arms feel so floppy

I think this person is learning Python

[timid quartz]

that means

• NO KOTLIN
• NO SCROLLING TWITTER
• NO TYPING JAPANESE

this is good.

[spare quartz]

いいえ、、、、、、、

コトリン、、、

This code does not call curl. This is not a "POC" of anything than suggesting you did this with an AI and that you do not understand what you're doing here.
Please identify the exact line of curl source code that has the problem you say exists.

[copper wraith]

I don't like Lua

Compared to other programming languages it's meh

[sly vector]

woh

[timid quartz]

I agree except for Roblox and OpenComputers

[rustic vine]

U cant just diss lua and not elaborate my guy

I mean there are certainly flaws

[timid quartz]

as a language to make more general stuff like idk a random REST API or something, the tooling sucks and the lang is meh

[rustic vine]

But it is honestly pretty damn good (the language itself)

And luau especially has so many improvements

[timid quartz]

but as an embeddable language it's great

embed it in the roblox engine, in opencomputers, in anything

in neovim

[rustic vine]

Ignore tooling

Ignore the ecosystem

The language itself is actually really quite good

[rustic vine]

Embed it in a robot. Robot itself is c and cpp, but with plugins/components/modules that are built in lua/luau that can call the native code for hardware interactions. Then you can iterate on logical/behavior code purely in an interpreted language - instant compile times!

Its an awesome workflow

And means even people on potato laptops can work on features

[timid quartz]

@spare quartz linux

[spare quartz]

What zzz

I’m in bed

[timid quartz]

car

[spare quartz]

She got so ugly!!

[timid quartz]

no she didn't....

[spare quartz]

Ugly and fat..

[timid quartz]

she's still beautiful...

[spare quartz]

you mean her.

[timid quartz]

no

[rustic vine]

dang I guess aera isn't nearly as excited as I am about rapid iteration

[flint belfry]

you and your cat have something in common

[timid quartz]

About what

https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/v2/D5622AQFoUIUeCGQERg/feedshare-shrink_800/B56Zk6yB2_JwAk-/0/1757627817935?e=1761177600&v=beta&t=NdWvgVemUb0qjC6prEZ4D_L4wMjo-EpA3X67fH-xGgM

[rustic vine]

It was just a joke.. u didnt reply to my lua embedded use case 😅

[rustic vine]

Genius

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472407264700006420/1417930151647514684/c823mvosjn.mp4?ex=68ccee9c&is=68cb9d1c&hm=ccc02c70895a3a05c4cb68d64beacb1f4a36348e55ba7b9fc26a11f9d66311c1&

Also genius

[timid quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1249859498127130657/1418272541268512768/1aca6bef590d47cc8a208f0df53e60d5.mov?ex=68cd84bc&is=68cc333c&hm=4bb4184ebd2e5b8e178cb0637ae232ac60bc12975dbe768852193ce907c8bc64&

[timid quartz]

@pastel tinsel @proud creek

[proud creek]

🥀

Ben migrated the server to different one cause apparently conduwuit is just gone

[timid quartz]

Yeah the maintainer ragequit basically

Now it’s continuwuity

I just migrated

[proud creek]

Ah

They just up and walked away

[pastel tinsel]

I use tuwunel

[proud creek]

Why does it all have an uwu 😭 😭

[timid quartz]

Why tuwunel over continuwuity

[pastel tinsel]

I honestly don’t remember

[timid quartz]

gay

[proud creek]

lmfao

[spare quartz]

Because the people using matrix should be killed

[proud creek]

nah

[timid quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1322722035394416660/1418397704597409985/G1G8BKyaUAA1rda.png?ex=68cdf94d&is=68cca7cd&hm=e309ad73e5c18ada8ea0764e18e98e531695a3b71a33ca1f318b7bee94f46591&

[timid quartz]

You should get back on matrix

[timid quartz]

Get back on matrix raaah

[spare quartz]

The vaccines are giving me autism…

[timid quartz]

Get on matrixxxx I don’t have anyone to talk to there

[spare quartz]

Ughhh

But then I’d need to make my own server.

[timid quartz]

do it…

[timid quartz]

But use another server in the meantime so you can talk to me…

Rather than telegram…

[spare quartz]

Telegram in the mean time!!!!

[timid quartz]

you are @meownium:matrix.org

[timid quartz]

No you’re not getting my real name ever

[spare quartz]

スキップ

[timid quartz]

Matrix…

[timid quartz]

@spare quartz maybe external dependencies ARE bad…. https://thehackernews.com/2025/09/40-npm-packages-compromised-in-supply.html?m=1

[spare quartz]

I’m on bed rn… do I wake back up..

[timid quartz]

This is a new NPM attack that is actually a worm

There was the one compromised package like a week ago

This is new and is a worm

Which is bad

[spare quartz]

NPM is just the hyperbole to one of the reasons I don’t like libraries

So many packages are just susceptible to the giant ass supply chain attack they set up for themselves on there

The OX Security team, in its own analysis said, it found 34 compromised GitHub accounts which contain the 'Shai-Hulud' repository, within which there is a "data.json" file containing an encoded JSON with the compromised information the attacker uploaded to the victim's GitHub account.

This particular worm developer is a moron though

[proud creek]

not again

[timid quartz]

Welll it’s not a hyperbole if it’s true

[spare quartz]

I’m saying hyperbole because NPM has reached the point where everything has a dependency

I’d say rust hasn’t quite yet reached that point

[timid quartz]

istrue, isfalse

[timid quartz]

ugh it might which is the thing that scares me

[spare quartz]

solution..

integrate FFM in every future language… make package managers illegal…

[timid quartz]

idk what ffm is

[spare quartz]

Foreign Function & Memory

it’s the term used by Java but more generally it’s FFI

[timid quartz]

oh

REAL solution

stop coding.

goodnight

[spare quartz]

いいえ…

https://www.java.com/en/download/help/virus.html

[spare quartz]

@flint belfry hi so

they're selling a server console for $5...

do you think its worth..

PFPPFPBfpbPfpf

nvm nvm im faving this

[flint belfry]

KbObbOenookonemo,,,l,,n,,,,,,

5

DOLLARS

[spare quartz]

mmm mb mbbmb

so like

the obvious question is..

i should try right..

[flint belfry]

is it just the server

[flint belfry]

kr this laptop

kr*

or

[spare quartz]

its multiple things hold on

also thats not a laptop

2 of these

1 R730,

swtiches (unspecified qty)

kvm switch

2 NetApp Storage Model: DS224C

[flint belfry]

mmmmmm 2.5 not 3.5 so idk

[spare quartz]

each are indivual auctions starting at $10 max $20

[spare quartz]

and also this server console

(aka the screen/keyboard, its not an actual computer)

[flint belfry]

makes me curious what it actually connects to

[spare quartz]

whatever server is in the background

i dont think they're selling that though

[flint belfry]

i don't understand big data center operations yet

[flint belfry]

o

[spare quartz]

this is from the state department

if i can get that console i will finally not need to unplug a screen from my PC to look at our mc sevrer..

[spare quartz]

oh my bad

theres more items i forgot to disclose cause they're on my second page

this entire rack

these two UPSes

and more monitors + computers (mine)

server racks aren't THAT heavy right

also the bldg they're selling at is also the passport center

i should get mine

[flint belfry]

144p quality 🗣️

[spare quartz]

its the entire rack!

[rustic vine]

@spare quartz so how did it go

[spare quartz]

oh you mean your ecs

?

[rustic vine]

Its not mine but yah

[spare quartz]

well... you made the stuff around it...

anyways reasonably well

its still a little weird to look at but i understand it more

im currently lsiting stuff on ebay

take this photo of a monito

[rustic vine]

You know there are tools to remove background 😭

[spare quartz]

yeah ...

i did use a tool..

[rustic vine]

No way

[spare quartz]

adobe express..

[rustic vine]

It looks like u painted it at the top lol

[spare quartz]

(its the only one that doesnt ask me for $505005430543 to export an image as HD)

[rustic vine]

Goated

[spare quartz]

(or is complete crap other times like AI ones)

[rustic vine]

Thats ironic

[spare quartz]

right

[rustic vine]

For adobe

[rustic vine]

It Works™

Thats all I can say

I think its ok

Has its problems tho

[rustic vine]

How much does this sell for

[spare quartz]

$31

cables on request

[rustic vine]

Huh that is

More than I thought

I was thinking like 15

But idk what model + year that is ig

[spare quartz]

ive seen it as high as ~$40

and its uh

2008

still works and is unscathed though so

thank you U.S. EEOC for keeping good condition of your stuff

uhh... yeah.. character..

chewbaca..

[rustic vine]

I mean this is like bare minimum

Its a monitor

[spare quartz]

well look

[rustic vine]

It sits on a desk all day all night

[spare quartz]

the immigration office spilled acid or something on their printer paper tray

so i dont know what to expect

[rustic vine]

How can u not take good care of it

[rustic vine]

Wth

Lol wut

[rustic vine]

Oops spilled an entire bottle of vinegar on the printer

[spare quartz]

this is the only printer ive gotten thats somehow rusted

the only other weird one had spilled ink on its mechanical parts but i just cleaned that

[rustic vine]

Goated

[spare quartz]

(functionally, though, the operating system on this one works fine)

(just rusty tray...)

okay now to prep this one for probably the same price of $30

[spare quartz]

クソザコPCでのデバッグでも滑らかに動くことは確認済みなのですが現在10GB超えてるのでこれから軽量化していきますよ

[timid quartz]

give me a 730...

[spare quartz]

you have to pay me for it..

[timid quartz]

u said it's $5 right

I'll give you $20

4x roi

[spare quartz]

um

I haven’t gotten the item yet..

And you still need to pay for shipping..

[flint belfry]

YOU ARE LITERALLY THIS IMAGE

YOU HAVE LIKE 5 SERVERS

I HAVE TWO

[spare quartz]

Kade!!!

[flint belfry]

What

[spare quartz]

My printer has a file system!!

And it uses POSIX permissions!!

[flint belfry]

WHAT THE FUCK

[spare quartz]

And the dir command is literally just printing a page

[flint belfry]

i just had the worst idea ever

[spare quartz]

Which is funny

[timid quartz]

3*

[flint belfry]

imagine hiding confidential files on a access points flash memory

[flint belfry]

GREEDY

im ROTTING Aerasto

[spare quartz]

Anyways

I’ve just printed like

20 pages of pure diagnostic info

Also it has such a massive toner cartridge

Shits literally 1/3 of the printer

[flint belfry]

have fun paying a kidney for a replacement

[flint belfry]

is that a fucking public ip

[spare quartz]

It’s like $20 lol

[flint belfry]

that does not look like a local ip address block

[spare quartz]

Shrug

[flint belfry]

THAT BETTER NOT BE A PUBLIC IP

[spare quartz]

I didn’t even think it was an Ip when I saw it

[timid quartz]

I hope it EPXLODES

[spare quartz]

It’s such a cool printer..

Event log too..

[flint belfry]

THAT IS A PUBLIC IP

WHY

[spare quartz]

Whose IP is it..

[flint belfry]

idfk some thing in Brazil

[spare quartz]

Oh crap this thing has Ethernet

[flint belfry]

inb4 it's serial rj45

[timid quartz]

Quick break into ATP’s home network

[spare quartz]

There’s a serial port right next to it

[flint belfry]

and you say i shouldn't do networking

You Are Dumb

[timid quartz]

No I don’t?

[flint belfry]

oh shit

[timid quartz]

Gayde

[flint belfry]

you

was it atp or you that said I shouldn't do networking???

i swore it was you

[timid quartz]

Probably atp

[spare quartz]

100 Mbps printer speeds!!!

[flint belfry]

fair enough

[timid quartz]

ATP hates networking

[spare quartz]

I’m so fast!!!

[flint belfry]

Not 10GBe.

Session terminated.

[spare quartz]

This printer is older than aera! Shut up!

[timid quartz]

Older than you too

Idot

[spare quartz]

Shut up!

[spare quartz]

I’m trying to find where paper tray 1 is

Oh it’s in the front

Oops

[spare quartz]

Also funnily enough

The toner they gave me for free has been in use… since 2016

And it’s done 1,101 out of the printers total of 118,588

still has 7,000 pages remaining!

Vs a new cartridge …

[timid quartz]

Well if it uses toner it’s not gonna use a black ink cartridge lol

[spare quartz]

they’re the same thing……

besides why would you even get a colored printer if you lose out on at least a factor of 100x pages

[spare quartz]

like even this is only 3,150 pages and costs $130

and a single refill of my current one costs … 6.5x less for 3x the pages

[timid quartz]

https://youtu.be/0OMlUCyA_Ys?si=ukBYRXJOLKxRgUAF

[timid quartz]

Your brain needs to implode

now

[spare quartz]

Huh

The port on the right

[spare quartz]

Apparently it’s infrared??

[timid quartz]

brain. implode. Now.

[timid quartz]

NOW

[timid quartz]

🧠 💥

[spare quartz]

sigh. you will bow down to Carol.

[timid quartz]

No

[spare quartz]

yes

[timid quartz]

No

[spare quartz]

Yyyeesss

[timid quartz]

Never

[spare quartz]

She’s so cute tho.

[timid quartz]

Meh

[spare quartz]

Yes*

[timid quartz]

Ehhhh

[spare quartz]

<3

[timid quartz]

Nah

[spare quartz]

<<<333333

[timid quartz]

</3

[timid quartz]

Holding sake lmao

[spare quartz]

Who?

[flint belfry]

'

[spare quartz]

Who?

[flint belfry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z7x_hu4t4Y

[timid quartz]

C

[spare quartz]

Really deltarune fans?

[timid quartz]

Really bayachao “fans”?

[spare quartz]

Thank you, bayachao <3

[timid quartz]

Thank you Toby Fox

[timid quartz]

Did you draw that

[spare quartz]

I wish I did… why…

[timid quartz]

mmm ok

[timid quartz]

Kill them all

Kill them all

That is all they want me to

[spare quartz]

WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM

deltaslop brainrot

[timid quartz]

We must purge the furry plague from the world

[spare quartz]

your entire game

[spare quartz]

is one schizo dude

and 9000 queer furries

at least Devil connection is cool and hot.

[timid quartz]

lame and ugly*

[spare quartz]

also

she released a post today

Apparently the full game rn

… is 10 GB

[timid quartz]

Fat!!!

[spare quartz]

it’s a 2D visual novel 😭

she’s really making big PNGs

she’s gonna try and slim it down though..

[timid quartz]

The plague of RPGmaker and JavaScript

[spare quartz]

That’s not why

It’s the actual media

Like how so many games use 4K graphics for no reason

except she’s using reasonably sized graphics with animated frames

[timid quartz]

If she made it with Rust then it would be 1gb

[spare quartz]

If she made it with Rust she would be divorced and explode

[timid quartz]

Even better.

[spare quartz]

You’re so mean aera

[timid quartz]

Only to things that objectively suck..

[spare quartz]

A HAPPY COUPLE SUCKS TO YOU??

you really are a NEET.

[timid quartz]

A happy couple is good. Bayachao is not. Her “husband”…idk neutral

[spare quartz]

does not compute.

[spare quartz]

and WHY do you insist on quoting husband

へへへへへへ

[timid quartz]

“Husband”

[spare quartz]

WHY

[rustic vine]

guys this is not programming 🙁

[spare quartz]

yes it is

[rustic vine]

nvm

its programming

[spare quartz]

her husband is a programmer

[rustic vine]

compute is like computing

which is like computer

which is like coding

which is programming

[spare quartz]

check out my printer Harry

[rustic vine]

wait u leaked the IP

[spare quartz]

it has a ramdisk file system

[rustic vine]

also wth is that ip???

201 is local?

/private

[timid quartz]

“Husband”*

[rustic vine]

thats better than the latest iphone

[spare quartz]

“Aerasto”

[spare quartz]

32 MB of memory beats all modern computers

pretty sure it’s supercomputer status

[rustic vine]

201.1.56.44 is meant to be the ip right

[spare quartz]

I have no idea

It has networking support through Ethernet so maybe maybe not

[rustic vine]

I only know about 192.168 and 10.0

theres def more tho... or I think

[spare quartz]

https://www.iana.org/assignments/iana-ipv4-special-registry/iana-ipv4-special-registry.xhtml

[rustic vine]

ok so its actually just a random address

maybe the printer had a public address that'd be goated

print from anywhere 😁

[spare quartz]

https://youtu.be/wVgwjFPwNYA?si=lRb2__Vwsv1D0SBk

[rustic vine]

Tracked?

Is that the typescript server in the corner of that thumbnail??

[timid quartz]

NTTS is dumb

[spare quartz]

Nuh uh

[timid quartz]

Yuh uh

[spare quartz]

i have my 2001 printer hooked up to ethernet

but im unsure how to use it

oh wiat

i need to write a DHCP server for it

[timid quartz]

You already have one

https://committing-crimes.com/articles/2025-09-16-null-and-absence/

[spare quartz]

AERA

IT WORKS

OVER ETHERNET

[timid quartz]

I’m going to hack into your printer

[spare quartz]

you cant :3

[timid quartz]

Read this!!!!

Oh wait you!!! Can’t!!! Read!!!

[spare quartz]

siighhh whyyyyyy

[spare quartz]

immediate issues off the bat

The Java Language Specification defines the null type as a type of the null expression, and it specifies that it can be cast and assigned to any reference type.

you should really be referencing the JVMS

as null is treated as a reference

and NOT refer to JLS

Java requires variables to be initialized before their values can be used. In some cases (e.g., class fields), however, explicit initialization is not required. Instead, the fields are initialized to a default value. For primitive types, these default values are well-defined and baked into the specification

again not JLS

[spare quartz]

this post is annoying

[timid quartz]

🤓

[spare quartz]

what did you want me to take note of

[timid quartz]

Idk just your thoughts

On the Omittable thing

[spare quartz]

i disagree with Effectively, null has transcended its role in the language as a default value for variables of reference types and has been misused to denote the orthogonal concept of semantic absence of a value.

and i do agree that Java should've have explicit nullability since 1995

i don't have any comment on the omittable thing cause it just sounds like an advertisement for something i really can't come up with a use case at the moment

[timid quartz]

[spare quartz]

tell me a use case, aera...

[timid quartz]

Uhm so yknow how Kotlin has T and and T? right

[spare quartz]

yes

[timid quartz]

like that…

[spare quartz]

okay

continue

[timid quartz]

but as a monad type…

[spare quartz]

but why

also ew

this guy has a degree

[spare quartz]

YOOO IT HAS HTTP

still has the old address too

YOOO IT HAS FTP

[timid quartz]

@spare quartz https://github.com/torvalds/linux/pull/1354

ughh change your name back to ATP it’s so hard to @ you now…

[spare quartz]

ban this person

[spare quartz]

電気式の猫？？

[timid quartz]

ATPStorages…

[spare quartz]

いや

[timid quartz]

お願い🙏

or change it to meownium…

[spare quartz]

im writing lua..

[timid quartz]

what

how could you

[spare quartz]

one of my friends..

wnats me to develop a TOP SECRET plugin..

that i hope will replace my old system alongside harrys

[proud creek]

Lua peak

[spare quartz]

@timid quartz you're brain mold

[timid quartz]

https://github.com/rui314/mold

mold???

[spare quartz]

ew

[timid quartz]

mold...

[pastel tinsel]

ur made of mold

[timid quartz]

🪞

[spare quartz]

https://youtu.be/U2i_IuAB6wo

おいマジふざけんな
荷物詰めようとしたら
とある箱に腐ったジャガイモ見つけて
箱と他の中身ごと丸ごと消毒洗浄する羽目になっちまったじゃねーかよ！！！！！！！

[timid quartz]

@spare quartz I think I get it...

why would anyone use Linux as a desktop...

[spare quartz]

?

[timid quartz]

idk I just think I get it..

[spare quartz]

making dumb ui rn

okay hooray it works

[spare quartz]

i hope this thread dies in FIRE

[proud creek]

Mrow

[pastel tinsel]

@red rivet legit you

[spare quartz]

i wonder

if you can turn a monochrome printer into a colored one

by taking 3 photos of red/green/blue and swaping out toner while printing on the same paper

[timid quartz]

printers work by using CMY (cyan magenta yellow) rather than RGB because CMY are the subtractive primary colors

so if you add all 3 you get black

[spare quartz]

thats why im saying use R/G/B toners

[timid quartz]

you'd want to use CMY toners

[spare quartz]

the first (colored) photos were developed this way, just with r/g/b lenses over toner..

[spare quartz]

rrrrrrrrrr

it would be a funny test idea but entirely new toner cartridges cost like $50

and the only other printer we have is a modern one that probably wont accept refilling

also TIL

you can use gifs in gmail accounts

[spare quartz]

finally done reading

god that thread was reallly bad

i did not enjoy how it got nsfw in some parts either

i do not like the trans/femboy community in the slightest

[timid quartz]

"i do not like the trans/femboy community in the slightest"
is trans

[spare quartz]

that

doesnt mean i interact with the community

[timid quartz]

ok true

[spare quartz]

but its just cause its so annoying and monotone

"doggirl" "rust" "thigh highs" "nix/arch"

just get something new im begging you

[timid quartz]

if they all used kotlin...would you interact with them more...\

[spare quartz]

no because of the other aspects

its a very sexualized community as well

[timid quartz]

"rust" "thigh highs" "nix/arch" ehhh I think these are general computer autist things not necessarily confined to the trans/femboy community

[spare quartz]

they might not be confined to those communities but they're definitely in both

whatever the case i just hate that

[timid quartz]

100% yeah

[spare quartz]

whats it called

clique?? or something

[timid quartz]

clique sure

community

group of people

[spare quartz]

oh clique just means group of people

ok..

[timid quartz]

clique has a kind of connotation of like

[spare quartz]

anyways ui design is my passion

[timid quartz]

"special" group