💽Programming Chat v2

[spare quartz]

sure

[rustic vine]

go for it

we're always happy to see new people interact here 😁

sorry if I was hostile

[wicked cliff]

message_prompt: db "Enter your name: \0" :message_prompt
message_hello: db "Hello, \0" :message_hello
message_newline: db "\n\0" :message_newline

mov r1, 1
mov r2, message_prompt
syscall

mov r1, 3
syscall

mov r8, r2

mov r1, 1
mov r2, message_hello
syscall

mov r2, r8
syscall

mov r2, message_newline
syscall

Similar to x86 but not really

[rustic vine]

or at least I know I am... aera HATES all coders so he definitely isn't happy seeing new people

[rustic vine]

lgtm ship it

[spare quartz]

what would happen if you put message_prompt at the end

[rustic vine]

https://tenor.com/view/shipit-revert-crash-gif-4770661

[wicked cliff]

wdym

[rustic vine]

LOL revert at the end

[spare quartz]

message_hello: db "Hello, \0" :message_hello
message_newline: db "\n\0" :message_newline

mov r1, 1
mov r2, message_prompt
syscall

mov r1, 3
syscall

mov r8, r2

mov r1, 1
mov r2, message_hello
syscall

mov r2, r8
syscall

mov r2, message_newline
syscall

message_prompt: db "Enter your name: \0" :message_prompt

would this assemble

how i am rn looking at harrys 2 deleted messages

[rustic vine]

wow I am so surprised that picture doesn't have

a stock photo watermark on it

[spare quartz]

sometimes they're free

[wicked cliff]

it would but it will throw an error later. Have to look into that

[spare quartz]

knew it

[rustic vine]

free with ADSSSSSSSSSSSS

[wicked cliff]

how?

[spare quartz]

its the obvious choice to just have one "assembled stream" of data, isn't it

but a stream is unidirectional

so you'll need to figure out how to split your stream into different code paths, waiting for a resolution of that label, and then when you have the resolution, you stitch the paths together with it in the middle (and cache the position for later use)

(speaking from experience)

[rustic vine]

wth qsurf doesn't use big data analysis and artificial intelligence to detect exploiters???

[wicked cliff]

it's not the prompt that causes the error

[rustic vine]

terrible game

[wicked cliff]

because the prompt shows up fine

[rustic vine]

get on the job @timid quartz I need you to add big data to the anti cheat

[wicked cliff]

Hello, Alex
[FATAL]: Segmentation fault: Attempt access unallocated memory.```

[rustic vine]

also asking how it works

[spare quartz]

wait, is this assembly ALSO interpreted

[rustic vine]

wait a minute.........

fake assembly??

assembled into bytecode spotted??

[wicked cliff]

a little bit

compiled to custom bytecode

[rustic vine]

huh

[spare quartz]

im unsure how sequential execution of assembly works

[timid quartz]

big mouth

[rustic vine]

I SUMMONED HIM 🙏

it worked

[spare quartz]

kyubi is life

<3

oh yeah aera... bayachao made yi!!!!!

not yaoi or yuri, yi!!!!

[rustic vine]

less than 3

[timid quartz]

❌❌❌❌ DO NOT LEARN THE JVM ❌❌❌

[rustic vine]

LOL

[wicked cliff]

why

[spare quartz]

stabs you in the heart

[rustic vine]

VirtualMachineDevelopmentSolutionStrategyFactory

das why

[spare quartz]

they right 👍

[rustic vine]

OMG STOP

[wicked cliff]

how did you know? Yes, it is read and interpreted from this code: ```message_helloHello, �message_newline
�

1
message_prompt

3


1
message_hello

message_newlinemessage_promptEnter your name: �

[rustic vine]

wut

u lost me now

atp lock in

what do the squares mean

[wicked cliff]

control bytes

[rustic vine]

is that goated

that might be goated

[spare quartz]

i could tell because if your program runs, then the assembly isn't assembled in one run before executed (the way you're describing it is sequential)

[wicked cliff]

this runs on a custom virtual machine

[rustic vine]

im extra lost now

[spare quartz]

now unfortunately it's logically impossible to resolve a label thats ahead of an instruction using it in that way, unless you have some metadata to tell you beforehand where your labels are...

[wicked cliff]

it is assembled to the bytecode you see, but the bytecode itself is interpreted

[rustic vine]

assembled to bytecode...

[timid quartz]

jvm has little future in the modern age

[spare quartz]

rust has negative future

im going to KILL everyone who uses it

[timid quartz]

even enterprise is phasing java out for rust ❤️

[rustic vine]

that, is, unfortunately, not true

they are not

[spare quartz]

FORTUNATELY*

[rustic vine]

bro aera what u even know abt enterprise u don't work enterprise 😭

lock in

[timid quartz]

besides the enterprises that aren't will eventually realize they need hpc that's higher performance than the jvm

[spare quartz]

he doesnt know Java EE doesnt exist anymore

[wicked cliff]

what it does is everything is loaded into "memory" on program start and it looks through the memory until it finds the label

[timid quartz]

without all the NullPointerExceptions

[rustic vine]

I gotchu with the thumbs up

[spare quartz]

aereaaa

aeraaaaa

[timid quartz]

whgaaaaaaaat

[spare quartz]

aerraaaaa

devil connection.....

[wicked cliff]

@spare quartz the code behind my fake assembly

[rustic vine]

goto used???

crazy

[spare quartz]

goto considered harmful by John Code

[rustic vine]

gotchu with the 👍

also its lua not luau so it gets the stamp of disapproval from me 😁

types r the future

[spare quartz]

well

[wicked cliff]

Luau is too sandboxed

[spare quartz]

i'm unsure if i have the time to fully scrutinize it

[rustic vine]

theres lune

[spare quartz]

but it looks like a mix between arm and x86 from first glance

[rustic vine]

luau is not sandboxed

[wicked cliff]

spot on

[spare quartz]

so it's a little strange. but no further comment

[rustic vine]

its sandboxed by roblox

[wicked cliff]

thats the purpose. ARM registers, x86-like syntax

[rustic vine]

the language itse huh

the langauge itself is not sandboxed

[wicked cliff]

Even then, the whole io package was removed

[spare quartz]

well arm and x86 are both very similar in syntax*

[rustic vine]

right, but theres lune

[spare quartz]

its moreso the architecture, x86 has instructions that can operate directly on memory while ARM is a load-store architecture

[rustic vine]

https://lune-org.github.io/docs/

https://lune-org.github.io/docs/api-reference/fs/

good enough for me

[spare quartz]

this is a scary method. i wonder what it returns

[rustic vine]

but also making ur own runtime should be ezpz

[rustic vine]

dunno

its OSS tho

[spare quartz]

oh i see

its just the basic file attributes supported by every conventional file system

[rustic vine]

https://github.com/lune-org/lune/blob/main/crates/lune-std-fs/src/metadata.rs#L97

[spare quartz]

no specifics like UNIX perms or Win32 ACLs

sad but understandable

[rustic vine]

thats probably the most reasonable choice you can make

when designing such an api

god if only everyone was on windows

world domination

👍

[spare quartz]

crowdstrike deploys a faulty driver patch

world reverts to stone age

[rustic vine]

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT

https://tenor.com/view/frank-castle-wait-please-stop-please-no-please-gif-21133188

lowk that impacted way more than I thought it would

I thought airports would be using linux or something

oh nvm linux desktop environments suck I think

[spare quartz]

i think the same would happen on linux aswell

at least if crowdstrike were as invasive as it were on windows and it was used as much

an error in kernel space is always enough to kill the entire system

[rustic vine]

nah it wouldn't cuz everyones configuration is so wildly different it just happens to break nothing on 50% of systems

[spare quartz]

what are they saying ??? scientists must figure out

[rustic vine]

I have contacted the experts

they have informed me that they are speaking japanese

I hope this helps

[spare quartz]

sounds like mandarin idk

[rustic vine]

ohhhh maybe

u might be right

I'll have to consult the 3rd party auditors

to review this conclusion

I gotta block these emails bruh

what if the recent MIT graduate was a christian baby

what would u do then

[spare quartz]

i have two accounts nowadays

[rustic vine]

what would u do atheists

ye this is my junk one

[spare quartz]

they need to come up with email 2

[rustic vine]

or... it used to be my primary

but then I junked it

[spare quartz]

same

[rustic vine]

cuz I was a noob

and I signed up for

everything

YUP CHECK

[spare quartz]

actually i have like 4 emails now

[rustic vine]

✅

[spare quartz]

except my first one is barely used and the other one is just for minecraft

i love email.......

[rustic vine]

are u atheist

[spare quartz]

umm

ummmmmmm

[rustic vine]

wut

[spare quartz]

god has a twitter account

and it is https://x.com/Bayachao

ばやちゃお (@BAYACHAO) on X

好き放題やってます！┊🖌FA⇢ #まけもあーと┊👿♂ガキ悪魔わからせケモ召喚ゲーム #でびコネ 開発中 🦇 @DevilConnection ┊ https://t.co/aqQ6svcT8h

X

[rustic vine]

nanwtkl

brujh

I'll take that as a...

yes?

no?

I'll take that as a no

[spare quartz]

agnostic )

[rustic vine]

u are weird

[spare quartz]

:<

[rustic vine]

anyone tell u that

😁

its ok ur chill so its fine and u don't HATE CODING so its all g

[spare quartz]

"sorry if I was hostile"
..
"u are weird"

[rustic vine]

CHILL

MB

[spare quartz]

double standards are crazy

[rustic vine]

its a joke brah chill

[spare quartz]

ikkkkk

[rustic vine]

not sorry if I was hostile

tho

for u specifically

👍

[rustic vine]

thats my dream job

to be a food critic

[wicked cliff]

but yes it is assembled in one run before execution using lasm (attached)

[rustic vine]

dude I hope they get paid well

[spare quartz]

not super important but why is registers not marked with indices while errors is

also do you still use semicolons for delimiting table entries?

[wicked cliff]

I use both interchangeably

[wicked cliff]

what do you mean

[spare quartz]

indices

no indices

[rustic vine]

there are indicies u just can't see them

haha

[spare quartz]

you're an index

[rustic vine]

got u there

ok

u got me too

[wicked cliff]

oh. I wrote the registers table before I had a good grasp of how lasm was going to work and never changed it

[spare quartz]

xerox machine

[rustic vine]

is lasm lazy asm

[wicked cliff]

luna assembly

[rustic vine]

oh ok

is it lazy tho?

[wicked cliff]

lasm = luna assembler

[wicked cliff]

I don't know

[rustic vine]

wait u got namesniped https://docs.rs/lasm/latest/lasm/

[spare quartz]

by a rust user,,,, 🤮

[wicked cliff]

had no idea that existed

[rustic vine]

loool aera prob just made that

lets be honest

[spare quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/chrism-christmas-xmas-santa-claus-grinch-gif-4373540494587289093

this but rust and ada 💪

[lone sky]

I WILL LEARN THE JVM

[rustic vine]

stop

terrible idea

[spare quartz]

CONTINUE*

GOOD IDEA*

[rustic vine]

do not follow in atp's footsteps

[wicked cliff]

this package manager I wrote is a one way ticket to getting a virus

[spare quartz]

UNLESS

[wicked cliff]

or getting rm -rf'ed

[spare quartz]

your teacher is using a JDK version that is below 17

then you should escape

[rustic vine]

FINISH HIGH SCHOOL AT LEAST PLS

I BEG OF U

[lone sky]

I ALREADY DID

[spare quartz]

who ?

[lone sky]

THATS THE THING

[spare quartz]

WAIT WHAT

[rustic vine]

wut

[spare quartz]

YOU GRADUATED??

YOU'RE YOUNGER THAN ME HOW

[rustic vine]

huh

how

[lone sky]

DIDNT I ALREADY TELL YOU THIS

[spare quartz]

YES BUT

[rustic vine]

huh

[spare quartz]

i have a ring buffer as my memory

[lone sky]

😭

[spare quartz]

☹️

[rustic vine]

wut

how did u graduate

at 12 yrs of age

[spare quartz]

i think mexican education is like that

[rustic vine]

ohhh is that why they

go north

like

to the border

to um

[spare quartz]

idk harry i think you're just racist

[lone sky]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-kris-evil-kill-susie-gif-6009350696914270786

[rustic vine]

CHILL

[spare quartz]

this gotta be racially motivated

[rustic vine]

but is that why tho...

to finish their education

[wicked cliff]

it is bro 😭

[rustic vine]

cuz it ends at 12 yrs of age

[wicked cliff]

i am laughing so hard

[rustic vine]

no wait

its not

its

um

racially inclusive

[wicked cliff]

BRO

[lone sky]

what did you expect from the rice vacuum

[rustic vine]

WHHAT

nah thats too far

ban

[spare quartz]

反中華

[rustic vine]

m ods

[rustic vine]

WAIT BUT IS THAT WHY

I NEED TO KNOW

[lone sky]

is that why what

[rustic vine]

why are you 12

@spare quartz they are redrawing ur congressional map

u see that

[spare quartz]

?

[rustic vine]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/03/politics/texas-democrats-redistricting

[lone sky]

I'M NOT 12????

WHAT THE HELL HARRY

[rustic vine]

YOU ARENT???

wait so

[lone sky]

NO????

[rustic vine]

are u 11?

[lone sky]

NO?

[rustic vine]

um

10?

[spare quartz]

nah i should stop reading the news

tomorrow its gonna be republicans launched nukes at all adoption centers

[rustic vine]

all abortion centers

[wicked cliff]

bro

bro

[rustic vine]

oh are u

greater than 12?

like 13?

[spare quartz]

thats pretty rude to 12s and 13s

[rustic vine]

oh

[wicked cliff]

bro just let it go dawg

[spare quartz]

gotta be numerically motivated ngl

mods

[rustic vine]

wait

I can employ binary search

finally

it can be used

[spare quartz]

@lone sky NEW

CYUPIDIEL ART

!!!!!!!

[rustic vine]

well u didn't see the redistricting so u already dont ig

[spare quartz]

10010010010101010

[rustic vine]

thats a big number

[spare quartz]

its actually quite small

[lone sky]

ok harry i'm

there's my age kid

[rustic vine]

thats like 1 quadrillion

pretty big

[spare quartz]

harrys like 40 why are you saying kid

[rustic vine]

90 -30?

so

60?

wait ur 60???????

wait no theres a 4

[lone sky]

RIGHT

[rustic vine]

60/4

[lone sky]

HE'S OSTERPROJECT 2

[rustic vine]

oh ur 15

wait

is that right

are u 15?

[lone sky]

that's it yeah

☠️

[rustic vine]

thats pretty close to my guess

I guessed 12

[lone sky]

NO????

[rustic vine]

I was only a little off

[lone sky]

YOU GOT IT WRONG BY 3

[spare quartz]

thats pretty small

[rustic vine]

thats pretty small

[spare quartz]

good error management on harry

[rustic vine]

MoE

- aera

[lone sky]

that's a large margin of error

[spare quartz]

i think thats the japanese thing for anime girls

[rustic vine]

aera said it not me

I deflect all blame

[spare quartz]

aera is a japanophile so it makes sense

[rustic vine]

ye

hes probably a japanese sleeper agent

[spare quartz]

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2k29233jeo

he's apart of them

[rustic vine]

whats the 3rd gun

called

btw

primary secondary

oh tertiary

what about 4th?

[spare quartz]

quarternary i think

[rustic vine]

quaternion reference

[spare quartz]

nah

get your imaginaries out of here

[rustic vine]

huh there are no imaginaries in quats

[spare quartz]

there are

[rustic vine]

nope

ur imagining them

[lone sky]

what are you then

[spare quartz]

oh my god

[lone sky]

a left winger??

[spare quartz]

what a terrible joke i laughed

get out

[rustic vine]

LOL

ok im done sorr

y

gn yall

sleep well 12yr old the night is young

[spare quartz]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1164309404317929562/1174435854844964996/togif.gif

[rustic vine]

at UNFUNTY

lap

LAB

unfuny lab

wait

lad

sorry

[spare quartz]

umm

the bayachao offshoot of shintoism

[lone sky]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/947211355050606612/1396416780137922660/attachment.gif

[rustic vine]

@spare quartz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WoDQBhJCVQ

[spare quartz]

what?

the fuck?

why did that ping me?

im not @lone sky ??

wait

oh im blind

////////

[rustic vine]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

GOOD JOKE

I LAUGHED

[spare quartz]

https://booth.pximg.net/c/128x128/users/324203/icon_image/58943d20-3c9a-4cf4-84cb-74d95c88a07d_base_resized.jpg

[rustic vine]

I got u good

[lone sky]

SHUT UP ALT ACCOUNT

[spare quartz]

kys main account

[lone sky]

:C

mods my alt is being rude to me please detain it

[spare quartz]

https://fixupx.com/i/status/1952051328710025680

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FixupX · Aug 3, 2025, 4:57 PM

this you?

[lone sky]

no that's meemkade the unspoken

[spare quartz]

@flint belfry you're an alt of unfunnylad too?

typical.

[rustic vine]

@lone sky this u

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1131078181403754547/1166927732492480573/image.png?ex=68916da3&is=68901c23&hm=a0d058e7249fb20323c04db78258d47df299335641dfcf77b9f2ca48ad20d9d9&

[lone sky]

that's not me

[rustic vine]

reminded me of u so I thought I'd ask

ok just checking

[lone sky]

i have an image of me that i could post but I will not

an image of my totally real and convincing face reveal

[spare quartz]

https://fixupx.com/i/status/1951864363976884351

Naosan (@1hd0Uv45F1Fw1p7)

#しろやま模型倶楽部
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FixupX · Aug 3, 2025, 4:35 AM

[rustic vine]

NOOOOOOOOOOO

modern day tragedy

[wicked cliff]

How bad would ATP crash out when she sees my package manager which is a glorified pipe to bash as root

[rustic vine]

https://tenor.com/view/fact-checked-true-cowpoke-pooner-qianlong-gif-3827914201118197286

[spare quartz]

it is impossible to make me crash out if you're not a rust user

[lone sky]

you suck at ts kid

[rustic vine]

typescript??

[lone sky]

only I and aerasto can ragebait her

[lone sky]

ts as in this shit

smh.

[rustic vine]

what

no ts stands for typescript

[lone sky]

ts = this shit

[rustic vine]

I don't get what u mean

are u hating on typescript?

[spare quartz]

no it means typescript

[wicked cliff]

have a read

[spare quartz]

its a language

[wicked cliff]

its bad

[rustic vine]

wdym

are u saying ts is bad?

[lone sky]

90% text 0.1% actual code

[spare quartz]

its ok.

[wicked cliff]

no it is not

[rustic vine]

code is written in text tho?

[lone sky]

NO 😭

[rustic vine]

what are you saying then

[lone sky]

harry you cannot ragebait me

[rustic vine]

ts = bad?

no im just lost bro

u got me out here waddlin

[wicked cliff]

ts = this shit

[spare quartz]

yeah OK mr poshi

[rustic vine]

???

[lone sky]

TS

THIS
SHIT

[spare quartz]

Type
Script

[wicked cliff]

"ts is so ass" = this shit is so ass

[rustic vine]

wut

what

[lone sky]

HERE

[rustic vine]

no that says typescript

[lone sky]

TS IS JUST SLANG FOR THIS SHIT

💔

[rustic vine]

but why not just type that out?

[spare quartz]

okay unfunnylad

[wicked cliff]

🥀

[spare quartz]

a preposition for you

[rustic vine]

yall r confusing

[spare quartz]

if ts means "this shit"

[rustic vine]

I hate people born after 2012

[spare quartz]

what does this mean?

[lone sky]

TYPESCRIPT

[wicked cliff]

typescript

[lone sky]

THAT'S TYPESCRIPT

[rustic vine]

wut

[spare quartz]

uh huh

[rustic vine]

so its typescript

[spare quartz]

the double standards are crazy

[lone sky]

THAT'S THE LOGO FOR TYPESCRIPT

[rustic vine]

agreed

[lone sky]

IDIOT.

[rustic vine]

no that says TS

[lone sky]

https://tenor.com/view/butterfly-dog-rage-bait-meme-gif-9175559818513666389

[rustic vine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/988661200827072592/1399955199774429296/x8wu4fu4awff1.jpeg?ex=689178e1&is=68902761&hm=356c309c595444eba310964b1ae7fa6e4ef76f0f4448d7a686837a4c26f9d398&

LOL

[rustic vine]

don't worry the crowd prolly didn't see

[spare quartz]

@lone sky question.

?

[lone sky]

WHAT THE FUCK

[spare quartz]

CRAZY IDEA.

[flint belfry]

juh

[spare quartz]

I MIGHT ATTEMPT TO DRAW THIS IN WPLACE

[flint belfry]

Yes

[rustic vine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472407264700006420/1396205418753298655/farmers_dilemma.mp4?ex=689103a0&is=688fb220&hm=4d962f847621a75e6331b5189852c74d5514dbb2b2050cc480eabae702fb073f&

what would you do?

[lone sky]

terrorism

[flint belfry]

oh. that's gore. that's gore of my favorite character.

[lone sky]

pipipipipipipipip

🛜

[flint belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-dance-bounce-bouncing-jump-gif-27487642

[rustic vine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=145Qd0aVTEk

thats a cheeky name the channels got

lol

[lone sky]

new account ∙ 7.7B views ∙ 3 seconds ago

[rustic vine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/988661200827072592/1395630943750066216/image.png?ex=6890e6da&is=688f955a&hm=8de41616bae0258b1245d09948e79df8190382b856a4a911c4b5ca196d31ac97&

ok im done lol

[lone sky]

ummmm

1

[rustic vine]

good save

[wicked cliff]

woah bro

nah

[lone sky]

hey kid

it's called dark humor.

https://tenor.com/view/kendrick-lamar-mustard-brainrot-gif-8468139567266846651

[rustic vine]

Its not humor its just true

[timid quartz]

average jvm

[spare quartz]

omg shut up

let me think about making out with debirun

[timid quartz]

....what

[spare quartz]

look at him.

[timid quartz]

how he get so big

[spare quartz]

true form

He’s so hot

[timid quartz]

Fake form

Imagine wanting to kiss a demon ew

[spare quartz]

Need*

[timid quartz]

Where things get really fun is when moving from IPv4 raw sockets to IPv6 raw sockets, as [Michael F. Schönitzer] covered for Linux back in 2018 already. IPv6 raw sockets drop IP_HDRINCL and requires a whole different approach. The endianness also changes, as IPv6 raw sockets under Linux must send and will receive data in network byte order, putting it in line with FreeBSD raw sockets.

this ALMOST seems to imply that ipv4 sockets don't need to be in network byte order (kernel handles it somehow?)

https://hackaday.com/2024/09/21/when-raw-network-sockets-arent-raw-raw-sockets-in-macos-and-linux/

aha and idk why but linux may do this too

[timid quartz]

@spare quartz I think I have found some code in Linux that automatically calls htons on the tot_len ip header field

Aha definitely

this is the function and I deliberately left the checksum blank and Linux filled it MEANING this is getting called

[timid quartz]

Well…it might be I’d guess that it is but I can’t trace it

There are other functions that do this too

[timid quartz]

Is that the other creature

[spare quartz]

Yes

They are very clueless.

Cute*

[timid quartz]

Clueless indeed

[spare quartz]

I said this to unfunnylad but

Bayachao isn’t cooking anymore

She’s the entire processed foods industry 😭

[timid quartz]

I can’t believe you’d say that about bayachao

NATURE IS HEALING ❤️❤️❤️

[spare quartz]

THATS A GOOD THING YOU DOOFUS

IT MEANS SHES DOING SO WELL AND I CANT WAIT

[spare quartz]

DIE

[spare quartz]

Indicates whether the IP stack should populate the control buffer with a message containing the ECN bits of the Type of Service (TOS) IPv4 header field on a received datagram.

int WSAIoctl(
  (socket) s,            // descriptor identifying a socket
  SIO_RCV_ALL,                       // dwIoControlCode
  NULL,                              // lpvInBuffer
  0,                                 // cbInBuffer
  NULL,                              // lpvOutBuffer output buffer
  (DWORD) cbOutBuffer,            // size of output buffer  
  (LPDWORD) lpcbBytesReturned,    // number of bytes returned
  (LPWSAOVERLAPPED) lpOverlapped, // OVERLAPPED structure
  (LPWSAOVERLAPPED_COMPLETION_ROUTINE) lpCompletionRoutine,  // completion routine
);

hmm

how should i add ioctls...

[timid quartz]

[spare quartz]

peak art

[timid quartz]

terrible art

[spare quartz]

ill just add this for now

[timid quartz]

yknow what you should do

try MSSQL

[spare quartz]

?

[timid quartz]

just doit

[spare quartz]

can you tell me what that is

[timid quartz]

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/sql-server/

[spare quartz]

i do not need a database

[timid quartz]

but u could :3

for something else idk

[spare quartz]

explain this "something else"

[timid quartz]

idk

find something :3

[spare quartz]

int WSAAPI WSAIoctl(
  [in]  SOCKET                             s,
  [in]  DWORD                              dwIoControlCode,
  [in]  LPVOID                             lpvInBuffer,
  [in]  DWORD                              cbInBuffer,
  [out] LPVOID                             lpvOutBuffer,
  [in]  DWORD                              cbOutBuffer,
  [out] LPDWORD                            lpcbBytesReturned,
  [in]  LPWSAOVERLAPPED                    lpOverlapped,
  [in]  LPWSAOVERLAPPED_COMPLETION_ROUTINE lpCompletionRoutine
);

val result = nativeWSAIoctl.invokeExact(
            this.socketDescriptor,
            (0x98000001).toInt(), // dwIoControlCode for SIO_RCV_ALL
            MemorySegment.NULL,
            0,
            output,
            1024,
            outputSz,
            MemorySegment.NULL,
            MemorySegment.NULL
        ) as Int

hmm..

there

need to specify input buffer for some reason

oh i see

its a pointer to the setting

oh yeah

ohh yeah

im now getting EVERY packet

i can also filter by the protocol which is neat

[timid quartz]

https://youtube.com/shorts/XlY3ZF2xywg?si=p1iiEEDv4uS8HAoD

[spare quartz]

okay now to write write logic

this is what the API looks like rn

i think it's OK

actually

before i make an IP reader

im gonna make the V6 version of this too

struct sockaddr_in6 {
        short   sin6_family;
        u_short sin6_port;
        u_long  sin6_flowinfo;
        struct  in6_addr sin6_addr;
        u_long  sin6_scope_id;
};

[timid quartz]

So in my process of figuring stuff out I saw that ipv6 raw sockets actually have differences compared to v4 beyond just the header being different

[spare quartz]

what have you found

win32 is letting me create the IPv6 RAW socket just fine, i just need to rewrite my bind/local addr get

then i can test

[timid quartz]

I didn’t look too hard cause I’m just doing v4

[timid quartz]

Difference in behavior

[spare quartz]

u_long is just an unsigned int...

im not super certain on how to read C++

is this struct an array of 16 bytes, then another 16 bytes

or just one array of 16 bytes that can be reinterpreted as words

ill try the latter

[spare quartz]

yoooooooo

im getting data... kinda

im not familiar with ipv6 packets

it is receiving something though

it looks like its truncating the ipv6 header

since this is just the icmpv6 message

[spare quartz]

strange

[timid quartz]

Says that HDRINCL means basically nothing to an IPv6 raw socket

[spare quartz]

well there is IPV6_HDRINCL on win32

BUT it only applies to outgoing data

[timid quartz]

And that IPPROTO_RAW also means basically nothing

[spare quartz]

oh im not using that

[timid quartz]

Are you using the windows equivalent of a BPF or something

[spare quartz]

no

im just using AF_INET, SOCK_RAW, IPPROTO_IP

[timid quartz]

Then are you writing the IP header yourself?

[spare quartz]

wdym

[timid quartz]

Like when you send something

[spare quartz]

oh i havent gotten to sending yet

[timid quartz]

gg

[spare quartz]

im just receiving packets

[timid quartz]

Are you receiving the whole IP header or just the payload?

[spare quartz]

for IPv4 the entire header + payload

and since its promiscuous all packets for an interface

for IPv6 only the payload (but still promiscuous)

[timid quartz]

interesting

well if you really wanted to, you could use a L2 raw socket lol

[spare quartz]

my own wireshark 🙏

[timid quartz]

wireshark actually uses BPFs on macOS

[spare quartz]

im not sure how i'd do that without doing a lot more intense stuff though cause

[timid quartz]

and probably in other spots where they’re supported

[spare quartz]

on win32 im pretty sure it has to install a driver from nmap

and installing a driver per jvm launch just isnt possible

[timid quartz]

L

Downsides of JVM programming

[spare quartz]

um

no

downsides of literally every programming language

dont add a driver every launch stupid

[timid quartz]

Meanwhile libc: ETH_P_ALL

[spare quartz]

what is "ETH_P_ALL"

[timid quartz]

gets you a raw L2 socket :3

[spare quartz]

also what, why are you attributing this to the jvm

this is win32

[timid quartz]

socket (PF_PACKET, SOCK_RAW, htons (ETH_P_ALL)))

free L2 socket

[spare quartz]

yeah thats a linux-only thing

[timid quartz]

oh ok

Windows L

[spare quartz]

hold on

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/network/ndis-drivers

mf theres a whole roadmap

ohhh

cause this is literally how to program the NIC directly

[timid quartz]

ooh

[spare quartz]

and its been in use since MS-DOS and OS/2 😭

[timid quartz]

DOS legacy stuff and compat is what killed NT being able to take over *nix in the server space

[spare quartz]

no this isn't legacy stuff

it's just existed since then and is still updated

[timid quartz]

Yknow I kinda wanna…take the kernel I was using in the OS class and add a network stack…would need to figure out how to interface with the QEMU virtual NIC

[spare quartz]

apparently theres an apple parallel to NDIS too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Data-Link_Interface

https://youtu.be/L_L9XPWBk-o?list=LL

By providing a simpler development platform, WFP is designed to replace previous packet filtering technologies such as Transport Driver Interface (TDI) filters, Network Driver Interface Specification (NDIS) filters, and Winsock Layered Service Providers (LSP). Starting in Windows Server 2008 and Windows Vista, the firewall hook and the filter hook drivers are not available; applications that were using these drivers should use WFP instead.

it looks like the easiest way to get the IPv6 header is by using a WFP program

which is probably a lot harder than winsock but ill still look at it

[timid quartz]

Hmmm I wonder how

To make a qemu network driver

[spare quartz]

thx for reminding me

i still need to work on the IA-32 assembler to get it to work well enough to compile a kernel entirely within the JVM

https://fixupx.com/SendaoTrust/status/1952396697646342280

Sendao's CB (@SendaoTrust)

@jesx64 programmers think they're better than math, so log functions, exp functions, just froget it man, most of them are honestly not gonna even know it's curved not linear

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FixupX · Aug 4, 2025, 3:50 PM

are people intentionally being dense or do they not realize perception is not something you're just magically taught in CS

not that i would know but i'd assume human hearing/vision is not apart of CS 101

like really what are you waffling about

every stdlib known to man has a log function which you do not need to understand how it works

[timid quartz]

I mean the kind of “math” required for CS is usually more theoretical math

[spare quartz]

and much of it is discrete, isn't it?

take the planckian locus for example, much of the math involved in it is infinitesimal

[timid quartz]

Idk what that is

But yeah a lot of the CS math is discrete

[timid quartz]

Ew srgb

[spare quartz]

idk. maybe im just falling for the ragebait

[spare quartz]

?

thats the chromaticity diagram, it can't be viewed correctly on any display but it's the range of human vision

[timid quartz]

Also like

Knowing the “math” behind log, exp, etc can be important for CS but it depends what you’re doing

If you’re just making html all day not really

But that’s SWE not CS

CS is really conflated with SWE

[spare quartz]

i think its just people not knowing what domain specific skills are

[timid quartz]

REAL computer science belongs in the math department of any school

[spare quartz]

log might be useful if you're programming a sim-based game but it's not gonna be useful if you're coding a networking application

(minus the edge case where you need to compute the size of bytes for something, but log is very expensive so you shouldn't be doing that in the first place)

https://tenor.com/view/blender-3d-model-modeling-spin-gif-27464124

damn why does sausage taste so GOOD

no games but inifnite sausage im taking the infinite sausage

[sterile ruin]

Time to spend HOURS fixing thjis

[spare quartz]

it's a syntax error

it'll take you 2 minutes at most

[sterile ruin]

It still points to random things

First, line 415 is not a do statement, its firing an event. Second, that single block of code does not interact with the function at line 12

Which is why those suck so much

[spare quartz]

pls show the function at line 12 as well as the surrounding area

[sterile ruin]

I found it, nvm

[timid quartz]

It’s raining again!!

[spare quartz]

wtf 😭 just found a transphobic makemon fan

i dont even know how thats possible

theres literally canonically genderfluid and nonbinary characters

[timid quartz]

Well it’s just like Nix…lots of Nix users don’t like the military industrial complex but Andruil is out here using Nix in their drones

Everything is possible

yes ATP has serious brain damage that could totally be it

[spare quartz]

okay stop talking to yourself aera

[timid quartz]

talking to you smh

[spare quartz]

idk what this self deprecation is about

anything you say can and will be used against you

[spare quartz]

(this proves he is a bayachao fan)

[timid quartz]

❌

Bayachao sucks

[spare quartz]

nope

nix sucks

[timid quartz]

ngl I’ve been thinking of switching my server from nix and changing nix out on my MacBook

[spare quartz]

good

switch to bsl

[timid quartz]

BSL is not an OS

[spare quartz]

it will be

give me 10 years

[timid quartz]

lol

And then another 10 to figure out how to make it work on a Mac with a T2 security chip

[spare quartz]

10 years is a super damn long time actually 😭

i could practically do anything in that time

remember bsl is only like 3 months old

and it only took 1 month for the first vestiage of it in breadmod (x86) as well as a few weeks for its roots (sstp)

[timid quartz]

might use idk

Fedora

or maybe arch would be a better choice

[spare quartz]

why not windows

[timid quartz]

I just don’t like having to work around nix and rebuilding my entire system for every little change

[spare quartz]

"t2" implies you have an intel cpu

[timid quartz]

❌ ❌ ❌ ❌

Yes I do have an Intel cpu

[spare quartz]

use windows

NOW!

[timid quartz]

NO

windows suuuucks

[spare quartz]

https://fixupx.com/endermanch/status/1952408388006301766

Enderman (@endermanch)

Wait till they learn file extensions don't actually mean anything and you can execute an mp4 file just fine if its contents are executable...

Quoting stupid tech takes (@stupidtechtakes)
︀
guy who cant tell the difference between mp4 and exe

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FixupX · Aug 4, 2025, 4:36 PM

this is probably you

[timid quartz]

me when I take a malicious .exe, change the extension to .mp4, and then take advantage of a bug in the windows media player to execute the code in the exe

[spare quartz]

yooo

i dont have the windows media player

💪

[timid quartz]

JVM is even easier to exploit

[spare quartz]

(the last jvm bug: never)

go run this . its not a csv file trust me bro . its a real exe

[timid quartz]

what would I even do with windows on my MacBook

[spare quartz]

do windows stuff

[timid quartz]

like what

[spare quartz]

watch bayachao

[timid quartz]

At least with Linux I get to screw with Linux

[timid quartz]

ooooo Compose Desktop

[spare quartz]

wach bayachao 8

[timid quartz]

8? 8 planck seconds? sure

[spare quartz]

?

there are no planck seconds

its planck time

if you watch bayachao you'd know this

i hope he explodes

[timid quartz]

WHAT

I hope BAYACHAO explodes!!!!!

[spare quartz]

nah

i should draw her though..........

[timid quartz]

ばやちゃお破滅！！！！！

[spare quartz]

投影

[timid quartz]

[spare quartz]

ホモセクシャル

[timid quartz]

JVM programmer

[spare quartz]

this plane was running on rust

joestar used his JVM powers to make it fly upright

[timid quartz]

The plane was actually running Kotlin

And Joestar rewrote the entire thing in Rust moments before crashing

[spare quartz]

❌

noncanon

[timid quartz]

✅ canon

This was verified by real stand havers

[timid quartz]

It’s evil

Are you playing it

[spare quartz]

i wish

thats the pre-release version they have in japan

[timid quartz]

I will devote my entire self to breaching steam just so I can remove devil connection

[timid quartz]

天使??? Angel???? Like cruel angel’s thesis from Evangelion?????

[spare quartz]

i was just watching that 😭

oops

[timid quartz]

Peak anime

[spare quartz]

anyways

[timid quartz]

Did you finish Eva

[spare quartz]

i heard bayachao has some specific canon for the "angels" in devil connection

[spare quartz]

no i mean like the soundtrack

i've never watched evangelion

[timid quartz]

Watch the anime

Peak anime

Peak

[spare quartz]

idk... some people have said its bad..

[timid quartz]

It’s goated

People have all kinds of opinions

[spare quartz]

mmmb

its from the like

70/80s right

[timid quartz]

90s

[spare quartz]

oh okay

https://fixupx.com/Cloudflare/status/1952362105253847100

Cloudflare (@Cloudflare)

Perplexity is repeatedly modifying their user agent and changing IPs and ASNs to hide their crawling activity, in direct conflict with explicit no-crawl preferences expressed by websites. cfl.re/4l7RV9b

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FixupX · Aug 4, 2025, 1:32 PM

[timid quartz]

Not surprising

They’ve had past drama for ignoring robots.txt

[spare quartz]

i mean

id also ignore robots.txt

but you didn't hear that from me

[timid quartz]

THIS IS WHY WE HAVE ANUBIS

[spare quartz]

sir i can bypass anubis incredibly easily

not to mention i already have every domain in existence thanks to CZDS

[timid quartz]

how would u bypass Anubis hmmmm

[spare quartz]

i mean

how do you think scrapers work

the headless browser isnt for show

[timid quartz]

yes but Anubis sits in the path of the http requests

[spare quartz]

also holy shit 128 mb of ram ☣️

the JVM outperforms this

[spare quartz]

okay and

a headless browser can still run whatever tests it throws at it

because its a browser

[timid quartz]

ok yes

[spare quartz]

and then it saves whatever token anubis gives

and you dont need to do it again

[timid quartz]

the heuristic is that bots will stop if a request takes too long

[spare quartz]

okay but i dont do heuristics

really though i wouldn't even have something try to make an HTTP request

i just need the certificate from a TLS connection and i can disconnect

then i can plug that into our ASN.1 parser and read off any attached names

and thats good enough for me

[timid quartz]

Have fun escaping this https://zadzmo.org/code/nepenthes/

[spare quartz]

#1264496483957346346 message

i do not need to read off any links for initial crawling

[timid quartz]

wdym attached names

[spare quartz]

a certificate announces the names it is for under the SAN (and now deprecated, the CN)

if i were to make a crawler, its initial stage would never be HTTP

[timid quartz]

ok but if you wanted to get any actual data off the website…

[spare quartz]

• CZDS
• DNS queries [could attempt an AXFR but i have a feeling that could get me blocked]
• TLS names
• Whois
• Reverse IP
  THEN, if needs be...
• HTTP / meta

anyways me and codev are gonna attempt running our servers again on a new ISP in a few weeks

if they again say no then i'll just create a firewall

[timid quartz]

A firewall

[spare quartz]

yes

[timid quartz]

How…would that help

[spare quartz]

because the problems ISPs have with public facing servers is the fact that they're... public facing

using a firewall effectively makes us invisible from the ISP

they can see us if they look hard enough, but there really isn't motive for them to do so

[timid quartz]

they have the problem I’m guessing because of all the traffic going to them right

[spare quartz]

probably

[timid quartz]

A firewall on the server wouldn’t really fix that though

[spare quartz]

it does

[timid quartz]

Cause all the traffic would still have to go to the server

[spare quartz]

again

[timid quartz]

To get blocked by the firewall

[spare quartz]

they know when somethings a server based on

• how one peer interacts with the other
• how one peer is transmitting data

a firewall acts before connection initiation

because it can just read off the packets IP

[timid quartz]

oh ok I gotchu

[spare quartz]

if it detects that IP is not whitelisted, its like an ISP/OS firewall

and the connection is terminated... but if the connection is accepted, you MUST know what the other peer is doing to mark them as a server (something most ISPs wouldn't do)

otherwise it just looks like any other connection on the internet

[timid quartz]

the ca is not amused

[timid quartz]

ew get that thing out of here

demented squirrel

[timid quartz]

other demented chipmunk

[spare quartz]

i wish all ai scrapers and anubis a house fire

[timid quartz]

Anubis ❤️

[spare quartz]

terrible software

terrible language

terrible goal

[timid quartz]

good software, bad language, amazing goal

[spare quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-lethal-company-fired-profit-quota-gif-8780580341539678634

contrast this with bsl

[timid quartz]

ANYWAYS EYE EXAM

[spare quartz]

best software, best language, best goal

[timid quartz]

I must make sure to memorize the letters before the doctor comes

[spare quartz]

EYE DOCTOR!!!!! BLOW AIR INTO THIS GUYS EYES!!!!!

REALLY HARD!!!

[timid quartz]

meh software, worst language, average goal

[spare quartz]

fym average goal.

[timid quartz]

EYE DOCTOR RIP THIS GUY’S EYES OUT TO STOP THEM PROGRAMMING EVER AGAIN

[spare quartz]

GIVE ME ROBOT EYES CODED IN KOTLIN

[timid quartz]

OR WATCHING BAYACHAO

[timid quartz]

They will be coded in Rust and they will be layered in rust and they will be made of rust and YOU WILL LIKE THEM

[spare quartz]

notice how its made of rust (fast and easy way to get tetanus, a lethal disease)

[timid quartz]

“Why do that person’s eyes freeze every 1.5 seconds?”
“Honey their eyes are coded in Kotlin, it’s just the JVM collecting garbage”

[spare quartz]

IT USES ZGC

[rustic vine]

honey why doesn't that guy whos running arm32 softfp have eyes?

[spare quartz]

OH MY GOD BRUH

GET THIS GUY A REAL FPU

[rustic vine]

oh dear, zgc doesn't run on arm32 softfp, so their eyes had to be removed

[timid quartz]

EYEBALLS

DILATED

CANNOT

READ PHONE

@spare quartz HELP

[spare quartz]

Close your eyes a little!!!

Did you get those eyedrops that make everything bright

[rustic vine]

then dont

genius strategy ik

[spare quartz]

wow. all japanese people DO look the same

[timid quartz]

Yes that’s the dilation drops

I also got the eye numbing drops

[spare quartz]

Look at the sun!!!

[timid quartz]

IT IS RAINING HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[spare quartz]

LOOK AT YOUR PHONES FLASHLIGHT!!

[spare quartz]

https://fixupx.com/biblebaggins46/status/1952352542282633305?s=46

J. D. Underhill🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿✝️ (@BibleBaggins46)

For my birthday a few years ago I got given a USB that’s filled with photos of uniformed Chinese fellas that my mate found on the floor

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FixupX · Aug 4, 2025, 12:54 PM

[timid quartz]

I need a screen reader

[spare quartz]

Calm down

It wears off in like a few hours

[rustic vine]

he needs an audiobook

[rustic vine]

u know I have one of these too

almost the same picture

its eerily similar

[spare quartz]

are all Chinese people issued a flash stick with Hong Kong firemen

[rustic vine]

nah its just a weirdly similar photo

[spare quartz]

Damn

I wish I could find random flash sticks

unfortunately they’re in the one place I can’t go

[rustic vine]

oh I remembered the photo I took wrong

[timid quartz]

but how am I supposed to read all your code and then yell "CODING SUCKS" if I can READ

[rustic vine]

I thought the books were red

they are not

[spare quartz]

?????

[rustic vine]

the books below them r red

[timid quartz]

how am I supposed to do raw socket stuff if I cant read the code or the output!!!!

[rustic vine]

u wait

for an hour or 2

[spare quartz]

Wait

[rustic vine]

my guy

[timid quartz]

nuh

nuh

cant even play vidya

[rustic vine]

ur an avid code hater

and you can't even wait a little??

come on

grow up dude